Podcast Summary: Khloé in Wonder Land – “We Said What We Said” ft. Malika Haqq

Host: Khloé Kardashian
Guest: Malika Haqq
Date: April 15, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of "Khloé in Wonder Land" reunites longtime friends Khloé Kardashian and Malika Haqq for an intimate, wide-ranging conversation that dives into motherhood, friendship, personal growth, and recent public drama surrounding Lamar Odom’s documentary. The episode is candid and often hilarious, with the women reflecting on their lives, setting boundaries, and celebrating their hard-earned peace. The tone shifts seamlessly from laughter and nostalgia to raw honesty about betrayal and healing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up on Life, Family, and Easter Traditions

• The episode opens with warm banter about gift-giving quirks and their recent Easters. Khloé and Malika exchange stories about their children’s celebrations and family time.
  • Gift-Giving:
    • Khloé shares that giving gifts is her love language, but she hates opening presents in front of people because she worries about genuine reactions and the cost.
    • “You make me open my presents in front of you. And I don’t think you’ve ever opened a present in front of me.” – Malika (02:24)
• Parenting and Field Trips (03:44–06:36):
  • Khloé recounts a hectic field trip to Malibu, describing school buses as “a lot of overstimulation.”
  • Malika discusses her own hesitance about letting her son Ace go on long bus rides without her.
  • Homeschooling:
    • Malika reveals plans to homeschool Ace in a Christian program, with retired-teacher mom Beverly helping part-time.
  • “I will not miss carpool either.” – Malika (07:19)

2. Mom Appreciation and Generational Reflections (07:24–08:36)

• Both share a new perspective on their own mothers, recognizing the challenges of parenting multiple children “without access to the outside world.”
  • “Your parents are people too. Yeah, that’s how I feel.” – Malika (07:46)
• They recall ‘90s navigation struggles with Thomas Guides and marvel at how reliant they are on apps like Waze now.
  • “I don’t go anywhere without Waze. Like, everything.” – Khloé (08:42)

3. Work/Life Balance and Friendship (09:08–10:28)

• Malika juggles filming her new (unnamed) show and being a mom, admitting the hustle leaves little time for social life.
  • Khloé describes her typical Sunday digital detox:
  • “I just try to put the phone down and not pay attention... It’s so healthy to not be a prisoner to your phone.” – Khloé (10:15)
  • “Malika used to get really emotional... she would, like, disappear... for 48–72 hours.” – Khloé (10:30–11:15)

4. Travel Tales – Taking Kids to Japan and Paris (11:40–13:44)

• Khloé recaps her recent family trip to Japan, highlighting safety, culture, and how much her son Tatum loved it despite his young age.
  • “There’s so many great things to do for kids. It’s so safe. It’s so nice.” – Khloé (12:12)
• The women bond over traveling with young children and how meaningful those memories can be.

5. The Lamar Odom Documentary: Setting the Record Straight (18:01–32:14)

This is the emotional and thematic core of the episode.

• Khloé’s Involvement:

  • She clarifies that she agreed to participate in Lamar Odom’s documentary at his team’s request, despite her reluctance to revisit painful parts of her past.
  • “Do people think I just like talking about this all day long? F** no. It’s traumatic...”* – Khloé (18:11)
  • She was not paid, had no editorial control, and only responded to the producer’s questions.
  • “I have no involvement...besides sitting down and giving an interview.” – Khloé (21:02)

• Betrayal & Public Narrative:

  • Khloé expresses frustration that, after years of praising her, Lamar is now doing press insinuating she’s a liar and diminishing her support during his overdose and recovery.
  • “You’re not now going to sh* on me because you don’t like the reaction and the response.”* – Khloé (24:10)
  • Malika defends Khloé’s integrity, recalling the harrowing time in Las Vegas and asserting that Khloé “was doing what was honorable and loving.”
  • “He doesn’t like the answers ... that doesn’t make it not true.” – Malika (25:50)
  • Khloé and Malika are unified: They’ve “moved on” and refuse to carry blame for Lamar’s choices or the documentary’s reception.
  • “I did your documentary. I think we’re done here.” – Khloé (30:43)

• Memorable Moments & Hot Takes:

  • “If there was nothing positive to show at the end, that’s on you.” – Khloé (22:34)
  • Khloé relates how Lamar always insisted ‘say coke, not crack’ for appearances (31:07).
  • Both reflect on the importance of holding boundaries:
    • “Don’t take our kindness for weakness. Clock it.” – Malika (32:00; also referenced at 00:47 and 32:14)

6. Healing, Self-Care, and Moving On (39:40–42:14)

• Single Life Contentment:

  • Both women explain why they haven’t dated in years and value the peace they’ve earned post-drama.
  • “We don’t cry on pillows. We don’t miss moments with our children or families. I haven’t used eye drops in decades. My skin’s the best it’s ever been. I sleep at night.” – Khloé/Malika trade off (40:38–41:09)

• Prioritizing Children & Mental Health:

  • Khloé proudly shares how her focus on her kids and self-care has brought genuine happiness.
  • “I don’t need to be good for another adult. I’m good for my children.” – Khloé (41:57)

7. Manifestation & Dating “Wishlists” (42:24–45:09)

• Malika’s ideal man: Silver fox, faith-led, a strong leader, good father figure, and “seasoned.”
  • “He cannot be his own leader. He has to be Christ-led or have some higher power... I’d love a great father figure for my son.” – Malika (43:06–44:09)
• Khloé admits she’s not thinking about romance, just health, happiness, and building her businesses.
  • “I just don’t think about a man right now. I really don’t. And I’m not mad about that.” – Khloé (45:52)

8. Friendship, Nostalgia & Lighthearted Q&A (47:00–56:34)

• Sharing first “core memories” and how they met as teens. Recollections of filming “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” and “Khloé & Lamar.”
  • “We were so young…we really did a lot.” – Malika (50:09–51:20)
• Discuss audiobooks vs. real books, social anxiety (post-Covid), and how their children challenge and help them grow.
  • “My social anxiety is so bad – I can feel someone looking at me from behind.” – Malika (49:05)
• On friendship circles and making ‘random’ friends vs. deep bonds.
  • “Are you jealous? ... You could never be jealous. You’re first in my eyes, girl.” – Malika (56:12–56:17)

9. Girl Chat: Daily Habits and Closing Reflections (53:03–57:16)

• Bedtime routines, crying in public, and criteria for letting new people close.
  • “Patience. I require quite a bit of patience because I don’t let people in the way I once did.” – Malika (55:01)
• Plans to go out together soon, ending on a note of joy and gratitude for their enduring friendship.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 00:09 | Malika | “The only thing that I will allow to rattle my nervous system is the stock market.” | | 18:11 | Khloé | “Do people think I just like talking about this all day long? F*** no. It’s traumatic.” | | 24:10 | Khloé | “You’re not now going to sh** on me because you don’t like the reaction and the response.” | | 25:50 | Malika | “He just didn’t like the answers. That doesn’t make it not true.” | | 32:00 | Malika | “Don’t take our kindness for weakness. Clock it.” | | 41:40–41:09 | Khloé & Malika | “We don’t cry on pillows. We don’t miss moments with our children...” “My skin’s the best it’s ever been.” “I sleep at night.” | | 43:06 | Malika | “He cannot be his own leader. He has to be, like, Christ led or have some higher power.” | | 45:52 | Khloé | “I just don’t think about a man right now. I really don’t. And I’m not mad about that.” | | 50:09 | Malika | “We really did a lot. A lot. A lot.” |

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:09 – Growing up, parenting quirks
• 03:44 – Field trip mom moments & homeschooling
• 11:52 – Traveling to Japan with kids
• 18:01 – The Lamar Odom documentary: Khloé’s truth
• 25:50 – Malika defends Khloé, “He just didn’t like the answers. That doesn’t make it not true.”
• 31:07 – Lamar’s image management: “Say coke, not crack.”
• 39:40–41:17 – Single mom empowerment, peace, and self-care
• 43:06 – Malika’s partner wishlist & manifestation
• 47:10 – Friendship core memories, nostalgia trip
• 49:05 – Social anxiety chat
• 53:03–54:38 – Girl chat rapid fire: crying in public, bedtime routines, new friends

Summary Takeaway

This episode unpacks big feelings and real talk about honoring boundaries, evolving through hardship, and prioritizing self-worth and family above all. Both Khloé and Malika stress the benefits of hard-earned boundaries, the beauty of platonic soulmates, and why some people truly belong in the past. Even amidst drama, the mood is uplifting—these are women who have turned survival into serenity.

Final Words:
“You’ll never be with another man like that again.” – Malika (39:59)
“Clock it.” – Khloé (32:14)

For anyone who hasn’t listened, this episode is a blend of tea, wisdom, and sisterhood, resonating with anyone moving on from their past and committed to cherishing what—and who—really matters.