Sian Murray was the Creative Director and Co-Founder of Pleasant State - an Australian start up that created zero-waste cleaning & personal care products. Sian spent 6 years building Pleasant State with her co-founder Ami, until they closed the business in March of this year.

In this episode, Sian sits down with Steph to talk about building and closing Pleasant State and the business lessons she has learned along the way.

In the midst of closing Pleasant State, Sian became a mum to her son Sevi. Steph & Sian also speak about how becoming a mum changed her attitude towards business.

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