EP281: The Telepathy Tapes, Auras, Autism and the Collective Consciousness

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Podcast Summary: Know Your Aura with Mystic Michaela

EP281: The Telepathy Tapes, Auras, Autism and the Collective Consciousness

Date: May 29, 2025
Host: Mystic Michaela, with co-host Scott

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Overview

In this episode, Mystic Michaela explores the popular podcast series The Telepathy Tapes—which investigates reports of telepathic ability in nonverbal individuals with autism—through her unique lens as an aura color and psychic medium expert. The discussion covers the intersections of telepathy, auras, autism, and the collective consciousness, offering both personal insights and broader commentary on how spirituality complements or challenges mainstream perspectives. The episode is part deep dive and part candid conversation, weaving together mystical concepts and day-to-day humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction to The Telepathy Tapes and Its Host

• Description of the Podcast:

  • The Telepathy Tapes follows host Kai Dickens as she interviews nonverbal autistic individuals and their families, spotlighting reports of "amazingly accurate telepathic skills."
  • Mystic Michaela remarks: “It's a good listen… She uncovers a phenomenon she never thought possible, a hidden form of communication that defies mainstream science.” [00:50]

• Analysis of Kai Dickens’ Aura:

  • Mystic Michaela reads Kai's aura as “green and blue, with yellow sparkles”—reflecting a blend of scientific, step-by-step logic (green), heartfelt narration (blue), and an attention to detail (yellow). [02:09]
  • “Green aura females in our current society... usually will wear yellow or they'll have yellow traits... They try to mask with that,” says Mystic Michaela, addressing societal biases toward green aura women. [03:04]

2. Spiritual Perspectives vs. Scientific Skepticism

• Skepticism and Spiritual Validation:

  • Scott expresses that the show’s supposed revelations are already obvious to mystically-minded people:
    • “To me, this was like... obvious. This is mundane. Like you didn’t cover—uncover—anything that the Mystic Michaela Spiritual Family doesn't know.” [03:55]
  • Mystic Michaela highlights a recurring disconnect:
    • “The spiritual world seems to be a catch-all for people who are like, ‘Nobody was listening to me, but I was heard here.’” [04:52]

• Frustration with Scientific Gatekeeping:

  • The hosts note that mainstream science often ignores or invalidates spiritual experiences until it can “officially” quantify them, which is frustrating:
    • “You were real before somebody wrote it down... that kind of annoyed me,” says Michaela. [06:48]

• Quotes on Acceptance and Dismissal:

  • “Right off the bat, one of the opening statements that Kai makes is that nobody believes this, right? It was like, ‘everyone doesn’t believe this.’”—Scott [06:48]
  • “Who's everybody? This spiritually awakened Red believes this!”—Mystic Michaela [06:57]
  • “Seems very likely to me. And I think a lot of us who listen... when the 3D world gives its little stamp of ‘ooh, maybe this is real’... you were real before. That's what pisses me off.” [07:20]

3. Telepathy, Collective Consciousness, and Auras

• Defining Telepathy:

  • Telepathy is described as “an ability to transmit information from one person to another without using any 3D or normal... human interaction.” [10:23]
  • “Telepathic communication is a skill we all have... you engage telepathically via the subconscious constantly, probably way more than you think you are.” [10:31]

• Forms of Telepathy:

  • Emotional, dream, and precognitive telepathy—each enabling connection with others’ “higher selves.”

• Collective Consciousness Explained:

  • Mystic Michaela likens it to “the iCloud for the soul”—a shared psychic ‘space’ where all human experience and knowledge reside, which some (especially autistic individuals) may access more easily. [13:21]
  • “Thoughts have frequencies... Words and thoughts and emotions are frequencies. They all have vibrations.” [16:48]

• Aura Types and Telepathic Ability:

  • Empath auras (indigo, turquoise, purple, blue) allow easier access to spiritual/telepathic communication.
  • Logic auras (red, yellow, green) are “more locked into the physical body... more 3D,” but everyone has at least some empath aura capacity. [25:30]

4. Autism: Aura Insights and Experiential Sensitivity

• Energetic Profile of Autism:

  • Mystic Michaela disclaims that she doesn’t speak for autistic individuals but shares her experience reading their energy:
    • “People with autism are actually over the top sensitive... as if they’re walking around without skin, energetically.” [36:14]
    • The mainstream notion of autistic people being “locked in” is flipped: “They're actually everywhere... 100% present—it's just their energy is so everywhere all at once that it's hard to pinpoint.” [36:47]

• Comparison with Empath Auras:

  • Many with empath/indigo auras have sensory sensitivities similar to those self-identified or diagnosed as autistic.
  • “Honestly, this is just being open to the shared, energetic space where we all intersect and collide. That's being open to the spiritual space.” [39:00]

• Societal Exclusion and Diagnosis:

  • The show underscores the lack of societal understanding and acceptance, both towards spiritual perception and autistic lived experiences.
  • “We're taught that only what we can see is real... if you start saying stuff like what we're talking about here and even in the telepathy tapes, you're going to get thrown out.” [40:56]

5. Ethics: Telepathy and Sovereignty

• On Ethical Use:
  • Michaela cautions against presuming to interpret someone else's inner state (especially for nonverbal individuals):
    • “Your interpretation doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth. Even in really strong love connections... it's still your interpretation. Sovereignty is very important.” [21:48]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Scientific Rejection and Spiritual Experience:

  • "It's like when the 3D world gives its little stamp of 'ooh, maybe this is real' — you were real before that. You were real before somebody wrote it down on a piece of paper." – Mystic Michaela [06:51]

• Aura Analysis on Kai Dickens:

  • "She's green and blue and she has yellow too… Usually, there's a story there, you know, there's a heart. There's like something to be told.” – Mystic Michaela [02:09]

• On the Limits of Scientific Proof:

  • “If you look at this from, let’s say, the science vs. the woo... until Niels Bohr comes around, there’s no atom. There’s so many things in history we didn’t believe.” – Scott [08:15]

• On the Overlap of Empath and Autism Experiences:

  • “A lot of indigo aura people are like ‘Am I autistic? Should I get diagnosed?’... sensory stuff, feeling overwhelmed—honestly, this is just being open to the shared, energetic space.” – Mystic Michaela [39:07]

• Societal Discomfort with the Spiritually Sensitive:

  • “There’s a whole group of people... who live in that world more than in the 3D physical world. And they just get completely shunned.” – Mystic Michaela [41:11]

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Light-hearted / Candid Moments

• Energetic Fights in Marriage:

  • “You and I barely even talk anymore with our voices. We have whole fights telepathically.” – Mystic Michaela [45:17]

• Everyday ‘Telepathy’ Use Cases:

  • Scott provides humorous everyday scenarios for using telepathy—insulting bad drivers, unspoken nudges to end social gatherings, and wishing close-talkers would step back. [44:04, 45:23, 45:52]
  • “That’s the number one thing I would use it for.” – Scott, about cursing other drivers telepathically [44:19]

• On Social Rudeness:

  • The infamous “Brooklyn Bagel Farter Man” incident:
    • "He does the butt cheek thing where he doesn’t even lift the butt cheek away from us…" [50:16]
    • Laughter and disbelief follow as the hosts recount wishing they could have sent a telepathic "nasty" message to the perpetrator.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:50 – Mystic Michaela introduces The Telepathy Tapes podcast
• 02:09–03:40 – Discussion of host Kai Dickens’ aura colors and personality traits
• 06:48–08:59 – Comparison of science vs. spiritual validation, and frustrations with scientific gatekeeping
• 10:23–14:00 – Detailed explanation of telepathy and collective consciousness
• 21:30–24:15 – The ethics of telepathy: why sovereignty and interpretation matter
• 36:14–41:56 – Detailed aura/spiritual reading of autistic individuals, social challenges, and overlap with empath experiences
• 44:04–52:00 – Humorous applications of telepathy in everyday life, candid banter (close talkers, grocery store etiquette, social boundaries)
• 50:16–52:30 – “Brooklyn Bagel Farter Man” anecdote: a comic high point demonstrating the couple’s rapport

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Key Takeaways

• Much of what is presented as new in The Telepathy Tapes is already familiar and validated in spiritual communities—and often dismissed by mainstream science due to a lack of quantifiable “proof.”
• Telepathy, in Michaela’s view, is part of the energetic landscape—accessible to all, especially those with empath aura types, and probably already used unconsciously by most people.
• Nonverbal autistic individuals may be energetically more sensitive and diffused in a way that enables greater access to the collective consciousness, a mode of being that is often pathologized or misunderstood by society.
• There are significant ethical considerations in interpreting the minds of others, particularly vulnerable or atypical communicators, underlining the need for humility and respect.
• The episode mixes serious spiritual analysis with playful, real-life stories, reinforcing the reality and relatability of these mystical ideas.

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For new listeners:
This episode serves as both an introduction to core Know Your Aura concepts—auras, telepathy, spiritual sensitivity—and a lively, sometimes irreverent, illustration of why the spiritual perspective matters in a world so often fixated on proof and measurement.

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Transcript

[Scott]

Foreign.

[Mystic Michaela]

Hey, mystic Michaela, spiritual family, welcome to know your aura with mystic Michaela. Today we are talking about telepathy. In particular, we're talking about the very popular podcast, the telepathy tapes. But we're going to explore it within the context of auras. So we're going to talk about telepathy, autism and auras. All here, all today. But first. Hey, Scotty.

[Scott]

Hey, guys. All right, we might be a little bit late to the punch here. This came out a long time ago.

[Mystic Michaela]

It did.

[Scott]

We did avoid this for a while. I think we can get into that a little bit later. But let's. And you listen to the entire series, right?

[Mystic Michaela]

Just a couple weeks ago.

[Scott]

Yeah, I listened to one episode and parts of others and that was enough for me. But we'll get into that later. All right, so let's start off with what. So what are the telepathy tapes?

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah, you don't. If you haven't listened to it, it's a good. I think it was, it entertained me. It was a good listen. But you don't have to listen to that to understand this episode. But the Telepathy Tapes is where host Kai Dickens embarks on a mind bending journey into the mysterious world of telepathy in non speaking individuals with autism. And through personal stories and interviews, she says she uncovers a phenomenon she never thought possible. A hidden form of communication that defies mainstream science. And if you listen to the podcast, a lot of it is I. They kind of go through all these angles and it's really interesting. But long story short, nonverbal individuals with autism, she interviews seem to have like amazingly accurate telepathic skills which she documents in the episodes.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Mystic Michaela]

I mean that's like very long story short.

[Scott]

All right, now when you told me I had to listen to these and I started to listen to them.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

My first question, of course is who is producing this? What is this person all about? I have to know, and I have an aura reader here to tell me. Okay, so the person's name is Kai Dickens and she is the host of the show. She put it all together. So I have to know, what are her colors?

[Mystic Michaela]

Well, she's green and blue and she has yellow too. So she's like green, like yellow sparkles and blue. So she's very science minded, very step by step. You know, she feels like she. It makes sense. Documentary filmmaker because usually there's a story there, you know, there's a heart, there's like a. There's like something to be told and you know, something that she latched onto, which is definitely individuals with autism and their families and people that love them. And just thinking about like, what if you couldn't speak? You know, like, and what if you had something to say? Like right there is very. That gets ya.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Mystic Michaela]

You know, and so she really latched onto that. And. And then the. I think, you know, there's a lot out there about the telepathy tapes and I think some critique was it wasn't organized. I thought it was. But you said it, you said it was a little all over the place.

[Scott]

Yeah, it seemed a little all over the place.

[Mystic Michaela]

I'm like, I could follow.

[Scott]

So let me just ask you one more question about her aura.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

So you said she. So is she tri color? She's green.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah. I think it's like one of those things where she's a green female. And if you've been here a while. Green. Green aura. Females in our current society aren't always. They're not. Our society isn't nice to green aura ladies.

[Scott]

Right.

[Mystic Michaela]

So they usually will wear yellow or they'll have yellow traits because that's the aura color that's close enough that they try to mask. Usually they'll try to mask with that. But she does wear it and it's more of like a sparkle. So I think it fuels her curiosity and her detail oriented nature.

[Scott]

Okay. And would you say green is her dominant color?

[Mystic Michaela]

Yes, she's very green.

[Scott]

Very green.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah, she's really green. Just how she questions and thinks and sets things up.

[Scott]

But she does have that blue in there.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

And if I had to guess, I probably would have just said green. Blue.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

If I was gonna guess. Okay. So let's just start with, you know, to me, this was like. I listened to the first episode.

[Mystic Michaela]

I'm like.

[Scott]

And this comes from me.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

I've been a skeptic for many, many years. Okay. And I'm like, yeah, obviously this is like obvious. This is mundane.

[Mystic Michaela]

I know.

[Scott]

Like you didn't. And I don't want to knock her down here. But you didn't cover. Uncover anything.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

That the mystic Michaela spiritual family.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

Doesn't know.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

Like, I'm like, of course this has to be true.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

There's not even really a doubt in my mind. We did a whole episode on telepathy. I just believe in it. I mean, just because maybe the science doesn't match to it at this moment in time doesn't mean it's real. I can't. I'm talking like this. But to Me, and that's really the reason why I couldn't get through it, is because I guess maybe Kai doesn't have any, you know, she just kind of found this, I think, and then random like you just said. But this seems so obvious to me.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

And probably even more obvious to our listeners and yourself.

[Mystic Michaela]

Correct. I feel like what happens is, is a lot of people in situations, maybe parents and caregivers of people, of nonverbal autistic kiddos or something, for example, they are going to be dismissed by science and dismissed by research and dismissed by people who are more logically based and they're going to go over to the spiritual world. The spiritual world seems to be a catch all for people who are like, you know what, Nobody was listening to me, but I was heard here. So a lot of us, I feel like, who come to places like the Mystic Michaela, Spiritual Family and other spiritual communities have been dismissed so many times. Not just on this, on like a gazillion things like health stuff or feelings or emotions or whatever. And it's like a place where it's like, okay, we'll validate you, we'll listen to you. So I feel like for us over on our side of things, like when I was listening to it, I'm like, duh, right? Obviously, if you have a kid that's non verbal, of course you already know you're being telepathic, even if you don't call it that. I feel like we're all, yeah. And it's kind of like when the 3D world gives its little stamp of, ooh, maybe this is real, right? Oh, maybe we'll see you. Maybe all of a sudden you're visible to some people. It's like, oh, that's exciting, okay. Oh, they're recognizing it finally. And I understand the implications for that in our world where there's more now spaces or resources or whatnot. But fundamentally it pisses me off because it's like you were real before that you were real before. Somebody was wrote it down on a piece of paper that this checks out or we did a test and you got the same number or something. And I was just like, you know, that kind of annoyed me. But it is still an interesting listen, don't get me wrong. But yeah, a lot of it was like, duh. Yeah, like duh.

[Scott]

And right off the bat, one of the opening statements that Kai makes is that nobody believes this, right? It was like, everybody doesn't believe this.

[Mystic Michaela]

And I'm like, wait a second, who's everybody?

[Scott]

This spiritually awakened. Red believes this.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

So there are people that believe this.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yes, of course.

[Scott]

I felt like, really offended that she thought that no one believed in this.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

So right off, you know, that. That did bother me about it because again, to me, this didn't seem like anything crazy. It just seems so. Yeah, of course.

[Mystic Michaela]

Seems very likely to me. And I think a lot of us who listen. But it was cool because it was a. It was, I don't know, just the exploration of. It's interesting. And I think the. I mean, another thing that kind of is interesting about when people who aren't of the spiritual worlds happen upon us, right. It's kind of like, whoa, you know, like they like colonize this knowledge or something. They're like, here we are. Oh, I discovered it. It's like, you didn't.

[Scott]

No, you didn't.

[Mystic Michaela]

Like, we didn't either. You know, it's just. It's always been here and it's always been in different circles or whatnot. But there's a lot of ego, I feel, like who. And people who hold the cards in the more science realms, which is, you know, if we don't. It doesn't exist if we can't prove it. And like, what if there's just not measurements for it yet or, you know, labels for it yet, or science to prove that yet.

[Scott]

Correct.

[Mystic Michaela]

And.

[Scott]

Yes. And this, if you looked at this from, let's say the science versus the woo. Woo. And if you go through history, like, I mean, until Neil's Bohr comes around, there's no atom. Like, I can't see the atom. Muto can't see the atom. Right. It's so small we can't see it. But it wasn't believed. Right. There's so many things in history that we didn't believe. If you just go back a few hundred years ago, and now you'd be like, of course there's atoms in this table that I'm touching right now, but you can't see them. But yet we all believe it. You know, it's there. It was proven by Niels Bohr and his scientific experiment. And then finally it became real. But you know, if you said that maybe 100 years before he lived, people look at him like, what?

[Mystic Michaela]

Like you're nuts. Yeah, right.

[Scott]

You're absolutely nuts.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

So to me, this, this telepathy tape is like, well, yeah, we've been saying this.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

For so long. And now here you're coming in and telling us, oh, look, look what I.

[Mystic Michaela]

Look what I figured out. No, it's been there and I think that's why I avoided it because I already know that this is happening and so. But it was still interesting.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

And I think it's, it's nice to have people talking about something that they themselves are experiencing, but it's not mainstream. So I think it's nice. And I don't know, I feel like a lot of people, like I said already who have a relationship with somebody who's non verbal or whatnot, they already are feeling this. So maybe it gives them more names or more encouragement.

[Scott]

Yeah, I mean, overall I think more positive than negative. All right, we'll take a quick break. When we come back, you're going to talk about what's the Collective consciousness versus.

[Mystic Michaela]

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This is my own interpretation of. Of what is going on here. When I. When I listen to the telepathy tapes, whether you listen to them or you didn't, overall, it was like, you know, obviously it was kind of what? From my point of view, it's like, yes, of course. Okay. And to me, it was a lot of people who didn't understand the spiritual world kind of rubbing elbows with it and really trying to understand it. But I think if you're hanging out over on this side of things, it's not that shocking. And it's something that they gave a lot of cool words to and a lot of interesting interviews about and a lot of attention to. But really, it's something that if, again, if you're in kind of the spiritual world or you've been listening to this podcast for a while, it's like, yeah, but it does have a lot to do with auras. So let's start with telepathy. So I've spoken about telepathy. Telepathy is not a new concept at all. In my psychic workbook, I talked a lot about telepathy. Here's my interpretation of telepathy. So, like, if you've ever thought about somebody and then, you know, like, they call you or, you know, you feel like I'm running into target, I just know I'm going to see this person. And then you do like that. Telepathic communication is a skill we all have, and you can strengthen it, and it can be used to communicate effectively with people who aren't physically near you. It's basically just. I mean, my definition is an ability to transmit information from one person to another without. Without using any 3D or normal with quotes around it. Human interaction, everyone can do it. In fact, you engage telepathically via the subconscious constantly, probably way more than you think you are. There's different forms of telepathy. You know, there's emotional telepathy, there's dream telepathy, there's precognitive telepathy. But it all boils down to the act of communicating with someone's higher self via your higher self. Higher self. Like in this podcast, they were talking about this, like, the mental field or the energy field, whatever, you know, it's kind of like the eternal you. The you that exists in the spiritual realm. It's your spiritual body, is your higher self. It's your eternal self that cannot be destroyed or Created it is, and it will continue. And it exists with you all the time. And that's the part of you that can use telepathy. From the way I see things, every time you have a psychic bond with someone, okay, Telepathic communication is way more possible. So psychic bonds occur in pre existing mutual relationships. So these are your connections with friends, family members, anyone you have a relationship with. Like an actual mutual, like love is a real strong bond. But even there could be other little bonds too. And I would say they even boil down to bonds that are soul tied. So it's somebody I need to learn a lesson from, or it's somebody that keeps popping up in your life, or it's somebody that represents something to you. So psychic bonds, I mean these can be connections with friends, family members, anyone you have some sort of relationship with, even if you don't understand the relationship a whole lot. Some psychic bonds are stronger than others. Like for example, you and your best friend will have a stronger psychic bond than you and somebody you casually just met one day. And people you don't always speak day to day with can have a psychic bond with you. Like an extended family member or an ex, for example. For example, like an ex significant other you didn't find closure with. Or you know, a twin flame, something like that. And telepathic communication, what does it feel like? It feels like you're thinking about somebody and that's why it gets brushed off. Like I was just thinking about them. So you got to pay attention when you're just randomly thinking about somebody because you're probably picking it up telepathically through the subconscious, through your spiritual body. And then they enter into your mind seemingly at random, or you feel compelled to reach out with this like urgent urgency. I have to talk to them. This can be a strong indication that they are pulling on those psych. The psychic bond that you share. So I always tell people that like if all of a sudden you're in the shower, you're just shopping, or you're just doing your life and you just think about somebody, that's probably them pulling on you versus the other way around. And, and you can learn to send telepathic messages to people you have a bond with, which is a lot of what they talk about in the telepathy tapes. But you can also have telepathy with dreams. Sometimes it can be easier to do it via dreams because you're not as constricted by your mental shields or by your 3D brain and your programming bothering you. So yeah, that's Telepathy, okay, so it's not a new concept. And it's something that to me, when I talk about it, it's like, obviously like you're doing it all the time, and it's easier just to go with it than it is to say, oh, that's just coincidence. So then what is the collective consciousness? Okay, so if telepathy is more kind of mind to mind or energy to energy, like a personal conversation, the collective consciousness is the entire body of human experience that you have access to. So we're all affected constantly by the collective consciousness. And this is why you can kind of feel vibes of what's going on in the world. Or I'm feeling up, I'm feeling down, I'm feeling this way, I'm feeling that way. The collective consciousness is a spiritual environment that affects us personally. You can kind of think of it as like the icloud, the cloud. Everything's stored in there. So we all take stuff that we can't hold ourselves and stick it in the collective consciousness or stick it in. In like the cloud, like the photos on your phone that you don't have storage for anymore. They go to the cloud. You know what I mean? And that's the same thing with experiences or lessons or feelings or vibes that run over. They go into the collective consciousness and that you can think of it as a space that we all have access to. And I feel like they were talking about this a lot in the Telepathy Tapes podcast because they're saying that individuals and. And they are focusing on that podcast in individuals with autism have an increased ability to go on into the collective consciousness and kind of navigate it the way you would a shopping center or like a neighborhood or a whole different world. And you can meet people there and you can talk to people there and whatnot, which I totally, 100% again, and like, obviously, and I think that what it is, is when. And I'm going to get to this when I talk about autism and how I pick it up is if you have an easier ability to kind of break through your mental barriers or your 3D programming or the things that keep you kind of stuck in your physical body identity, it's easier to go into the collective consciousness. It's a place that exists. It's a place that's constantly there. It's a place that is available to us, but it's difficult to get there because we have a lot more doors and barriers than people who are not dealing with those as much. And I'll get to that again, I don't want to go ahead of myself. But if you think about it with just back to telepathy, back to collective consciousness, like basically communicating not with words or in 3D ways. Thoughts have frequencies, you know, we say that all the time. You what, what you think will happen, what you pay attention to happen. Words are power. A lot. A lot of that gets reiterated over and over again in the spiritual world. Write your manifestations down, repeat your mantras, okay? What you think you will attract. Because words and thoughts and emotions are frequencies. They all have vibrations. Vibrations in the collective consciousness, vibrations in the subconscious, vibrations in the universe. Whatever word you want to use there, like attracts like. So if you're vibrating on some level, other things that are like, ooh, that's me too, come right at you. So that's that right there. It's been talked about a lot. And then, you know, emotions are like languages and wavelengths and they can be felt. And you do this. You feel emotion, you feel people's energy. And if you just think about, like animals, for example, that's how they talk. If you've ever had a dog, you know, you can and you take into the dog park, they're all talking through energy. This isn't. This is just because it's a language that we aren't privy to as easily, because we're not as. We're not taught and it's not supported, and it's not something that we as humans have in this culture anyways, have supported with a lot of validation. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist and it doesn't mean it's not real. So, and then frequencies, and here's the problem, like, frequencies can be. They can be picked up, but they're also going to be interpreted. So if I have a frequency and you pick it up, you're going to interpret it through your filters, you know. And so my ethical thing is, when you are picking up something from somebody else, your interpretation doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth. That means that it has been affected by your filter, by your interpretation, by what every. All your collective experiences will sully whatever the intended message is, no matter what. Even in really strong love connections, you know, even if it's your kid, even if it's anybody, like, it's still your interpretation on their frequency. So I think one of my big things with telepathy, and this is why this is my long way, my long roundabout way of coming to what I'm about to say is sovereignty is very important. And listen, yes, I read people, I read auras. You know, I talk, I do psychic readings, I do mediumship 100%. But I'm also always very clear on this is my interpretation. Like you have to sit with your own interpretations and, and people have to have a sovereignty to them. And so in the telepathy tapes, I think one of the reasons why they even explained why it's controversial is there's always a question of sovereignty. Like is this person's actual intended message? And I think that a lot of the people that they talked to, it was very proven above and beyond, like, yes, this is their intended message. But also a big thing is my worry is that we blanket this on everybody and it might not be the case for everybody. You know what I mean? Like, it's. Everybody has to have their own ability to prove that they're sovereign and that this is their thought and then this, you know, and they practice it enough that they're able to get there. So I think that sometimes, and this is just my overall thing, and this is why I'm always, you know, cause I'm a mom too, and I was a teacher. And it's just I want to make sure that individuals aren't swept up in the generalized sensationalized statements of you're, you know, if I'm telepathic, I can read somebody and I know exactly what they're saying because that's really dangerous. That's really dangerous. So that was my roundabout way of, of calling it that, like with ethics. Keeping that in mind. 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It has its own habitat, okay? So your spiritual body has its own habitat that can be whatever you want to call it, the collective consciousness, the universe, the area around you. There are parts of you which can go beyond your physical body. That's the spiritual body. And here's the deal. This is where auras come in, okay? When you lead with your empath aura, your indigo, your turquoise, your purple, your blue, you have an easier time not only hanging out in your spiritual body, but also receiving messages from other people's spiritual bodies. Because you're more open to emotion and vibes and energy and feelings. That's why I'm saying everybody has the ability to do this, okay? If you kind of concentrate on that part of your energy or that part of your aura. So if you're red, blue, and you're just going red, it's going to be harder because red, yellow, green, those energies have a harder time picking up spiritual body messages. They are more locked into the physical body. They're more locked into the 3D. And that's great, you know, like if you have a logic color, like, awesome. That's why you're probably looking a lot more better on paper than the double empath colors. Like, you probably have your bills paid and you're getting stuff done, okay? But the you still have an empath color because every Single person that has a logic color. You have two aura colors. And even if you're yellow, you have a purple or a blue or a turquoise or an indigo, you have yellow, your empath aura color, attached to it so you can lean into it. And if you're double empath aura, forget it. You're already doing it, and it's probably overwhelming. And we'll get to that part too. But, yeah. So empath auras are more open to these planes around us and more open to the habitat of the spiritual body. Therefore, it's easier for them. And that's why I usually see a lot of people who have, you know, who lead with their empath auras in social work or therapy or working with kids who have autism. Okay. Like, usually these are the people that are working with the population who also needs a little bit of energetic connection or just kids in general or older people or whatever. Okay, so let's talk about autism. Now, this is, you know, to be honest, like, I'm not a specialist, and I don't like speaking for a whole crew of people here who have more than enough ability to speak for themselves. So this is not me speaking for people with autism at all. This is me just telling you how I pick it up. All right? How I pick it up. I read a lot of moms and a lot of you have kiddos with autism, and sometimes you can tell, like, in a reading, and sometimes you can't. But I'll tell you what it is. 100% of the time, they're more sensitive than anyone else. So I say if you. If you've ever had a reading with me and we talked about your kid who has autism, one of the number one things I'll say is we don't. I don't think autism's autism. Like, I don't even know what that means, like, when it's a diagnosis. And I think we just don't know a lot about what that means. And I've. I've said that way before the telepathy tapes. I've said that forever. I'm like, we don't understand it, but I can tell you how I get it. And then hopefully it helps you understand how to work with it in realms that you and your kid are comfortable with. And one of the things I get is people with autism are actually over the top sensitive. And when I say sensitive, I mean they're feeling everything. So when I feel the energy in a reading of somebody who has autism, it's like they're raw. It's like they're open, like they're. I guess it would be akin to somebody walking around without skin. Like they don't have an energy skin. They're just here 100%. So when people say oh, they're locked in there, they're stuck, you know, like that. I don't feel it that way. I feel like actually they're spread out. Like their energy is so everywhere all at once that it's hard to pinpoint them in the same way that you can pinpoint somebody who does not have autism. So. Oh gosh, I hope that makes sense. It's kind of like the nugget of who they are is spread out all around them all at once in like a consistent glow. Versus when I read somebody who doesn't have autism, it's kind of like, oh, let me kind of dig in there and find the nugget of you. So I think they get this terrible. I guess it's just what we've all heard and they talk about in this, in the telepathy tapes a lot. Like where my kid's not in there and they'll never grow and they'll never be any. Like that. Not true. They're actually everywhere. They're actually 100% present. It's just, it's kind of like gathering feathers a little bit that burst in the wind. It's contained and it's in there. It's just they're kind of alert to everything constantly. Hence the sensory stuff, you know, and whatnot. Without these mental barriers so tied to the 3D world, they definitely have more access to planes of knowledge, existence and others mental fields and frequency. So a lot of times when I'll read somebody who has autism or I meet somebody who has autism, I feel like they're just kind of like in my space more than other people. It's kind of like a curious energy. That's kind of what I get. Like if I'm me and I'm, you know, keeping my. Because keeping my energy kind of tight around me, they're like, hi, like knocking on it with their energy. And it's like, oh, okay. And that's kind of how I know or I feel them being different in that way. Here's the thing though. And I don't know, I'll just. Other instances I feel this way would be when somebody has Alzheimer's or dementia. I will get the same kind of feel different, but not. But. And when somebody's passed, I'll feel that. And when an. When animals are paying attention to me, I'll feel that too. And in little kids, I'll feel that. Little, little kids, you know, like when you see a baby and you're at the grocery store behind them in line and they're like, hi. And you're like, hi. Like that too. And it's because they're just everybody I just talked about. Every instance I just talked about. It's like they're not trapped in their physical body the way the rest of us are, so their energy is more free to move around. So it just really does coincide with what they're talking about in the telepathy tapes and that there is a spiritual body that is not held back by mental barriers and mental shields and they can travel and move and have more access to different planes of existence and other frequencies.

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[Mystic Michaela]

People always ask me, what does autism look like in aura color? Every single aura color is what it looks like to me. Like any, any I've seen people with autism in any aura color. I just talked about this recently, I think in a podcast a couple podcasts ago. It's just like anything else when we talk about on here. Different aura colors have different traits and same thing. You know, if you're red and you're autistic, you're probably going to have like red rants still just in your way. So it's just the same thing. But their empath aura colors are huge and big and really again dispersed. What else? It sometimes feels like they're a little, I guess like their barriers are easier to breach too. So the sensitivity thing is really on point. And here's the thing. What do I get all the time? I will get so many like indigos. I'll just, I'll just keep it. A lot of indigo aura people are like, am I autistic? Should I get diagnosed? Or I've been diagnosed as autistic like that. So here's the thing. Like, sensory stuff, the feeling of being overwhelmed, like, oh, my God, the lights are too bright, the sounds are too much. I get really stressed out when I'm around other people, or I get stressed out in crowds and whatnot. Honestly, this is just being open to the shared, energetic space where we all intersect and collide. That's being open to the spiritual space. The collective consciousness is more pressing on you. So again, I feel like autism has a lot in common with empath aura stuff. When you're feeling that. And hey, two things can be true. So I'm not like, devalidating your diagnosis or whatever at all. I'm just saying that I wonder if in my fantasy world where we study this stuff, do a lot of people who are later diagnosed also have major empath aura situations going on? Like, they're indigo or they're super, super blue or something like that, or they're very, very turquoise, or there's some sort of correlation or combination with that? Just a lot. I mean, I have these sensory issues. I get it. I understand. A lot of times when I'm around people with autism and they, like, are upset about something or something's going on and they're. They're having a moment or whatever, I'm like, oh, my gosh. I feel the exact same thing. Like, I totally understand why they're not super happy right now. It's just that I have the ability to shove that in and they don't. You know, again, it's like it. To me, when I. When I feel somebody who has autism, it's like they're walking around without, like, a spiritual skin. So everything's just out, out and raw. Okay? So having an empath aura and leading with that can just make you more in tune to the unsaid. And then that spiritual body, that spiritual mindset, that. That part of you, your energy body, can have a hard time reconciling everything that you're picking up with your 3D brain mindset, your programming in your physical body. And, you know, we're taught that only what we can see is real and not just that. We're taught that you're going to be laughed at, you're going to be thrown out of social groups. You're going to be the odd one out if you don't do things from a 3D perspective from the material world. From the physical world. So if you start saying stuff like what we're talking about here and even in the telepathy tapes are talking about constantly, like, you know, oh, I know this is crazy. Oh, I know this is ridiculous. It's like, yeah, like thrown out of science circles or educated with words, quotes around it. Circles, you're going to get thrown out if you don't constantly just look at it from the way we were taught in this 3D world. But honestly, the immaterial world, the spiritual world, that energy, the vibrations, the frequencies, they're just as real and they affect us just as much and maybe more because we're taught to shut them out. So there's a whole part of ourselves that we're not constantly dealing with. And so it turns up as anxiety or what's wrong with me or I have to take medication or I have to do X, Y, you know, like that because it's just, we're not supported there. And then of course there's this whole group of people, people with autism who live in that world more than in the 3D physical world. And they just get completely shunned. Like there's no, they feel like there's no space for them. And if you've ever been around somebody, like I have, I have three autistic, three nephews who are autistic. And they, it's constant anywhere we go. Oh my gosh, are we bothering somebody? Are we, is there going to be a meltdown? You know, who's going to give us nasty looks? Who's. Where should we sit so we don't bother other people? Like it's, it's awful, you know, and it's just like. So there's no beautiful, there's no like, it's, it's hard to find really accepting spaces. So the whole world is like basically saying, the unseen, these realms, sensitive energies, we don't have places for you. Which is just the sad truth of where we're living. And I mean, I feel like it's getting better here and there in little pockets, but maybe not now, lately, especially with. Well, we won't go into it, but you know what I mean? Okay, so. And the other thing is, it's just easier for people who lead with the logic colors to dismiss all that and just slap a diagnosis on it and call it a day. And then believing in this stuff is the other thing. I don't. Believing in this stuff isn't religious, it's not insane, it's not woo woo or ridiculous. This is my own Indigo Rant. It's just, it's just a segment of science we've not come to agreement with in how to measure, label or tabulate. Like, I don't under. Like, this is big indigo, like slash psychic lady Rant. I don't understand why people can't be like, oh, this is probably just something we don't understand yet. Like, throughout human history, there's been a gazillion times where people were saying things and then everyone was like, you're crazy. You know, like, leave the village. And now it's just taught in seventh grade science. So why can't this just be another one that we have an energy body that, you know, some people are more adept in being in? Two things can be true people. Two things can be true. And the woo woo and science can intersect. And I think a lot of the spiritualist stuff and the woo woo we talk about on here and auras and telepathy are just, they'll maybe in 100, 200, 300 years they'll have words for it. I believe that all the time that are different than the ones we're using here but will be accepted science terms. Can't wait to hear what you have to say about this. I'm sure I left a ton out, but that was kind of my ex. My aura splain of the telepathy tapes. Know your aura with mystic Michaela is sponsored by Better Help. 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[Scott]

Hey, guys. All right, so you know what I was thinking we actually talk about now because we are believers of telepathy, as we are right. In the mmsf, all believers are ready. So we could actually skip through the telepathy tapes and just move ahead to believing.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

And the only thing I am upset with about telepathy.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Is that I don't know how to do it. Like, I really want to find a way to be able to do it because I could use it in so many productive ways.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Like if I could just learn the skill. I've tried with your book. I have.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

You do have the telepathy chapter in the psychic workbook, but it doesn't work for me. I don't have that. That skill set.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

I mean.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah. I don't know, Scott, Your vibe is real loud.

[Scott]

Yeah. That.

[Mystic Michaela]

Well, nobody wonders what you're thinking. Okay.

[Scott]

Okay, so here's the thing. Like. Like I might be able to give off the telepathic message.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

But I can't receive the telepathic message.

[Mystic Michaela]

You think so?

[Scott]

I don't know. I mean. Well, here's a question for you.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

If I. Okay, so let's say you say you're driving. Like, this is the number one way I would use it. Like during driving, you know, someone's driving terribly, they cut you off.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

They do something horrific on the road, they almost kill you.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

You know, down here in South Florida, almost every day someone tries to kill me.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

So obviously I would like to, you know. You know, I give them some gestures, Right. Honk the horn.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right. You give them nasty looks outside in the window.

[Scott]

Yes. Right. And sometimes they see it, sometimes they don't. They're old down here, so they don't always see my gestures. But I would like to be able to, you know, give them that telepathic.

[Mystic Michaela]

Telematic gesture.

[Scott]

The telepathic message.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

And you know, that's the number one thing I would use it for.

[Mystic Michaela]

Well, that's. It's good that it. That nobody believes in telepathy yet, you know, because they might get your message. They might get it like, oh, my gosh, I just saw visually, like the middle finger just in my. My vision.

[Scott]

All right.

[Mystic Michaela]

And. And then they're just like, oh, that's weird. I must. Maybe I. Maybe that came from myself, they would never. But if they know it's from you, because one day when everybody believes it, they'll be like, wow, that RAV4 is so rude. They sent me a telepathic middle finger.

[Scott]

Well, yeah, because that's what I was wondering. Like, is it. Is it an insult if you insult someone telepathically? Is it? I don't know, is it? I mean, right now.

[Mystic Michaela]

Whoa, these are the tough questions.

[Scott]

I mean, this is science versus the woo here.

[Mystic Michaela]

What. Is it an insult if you insult somebody telepathically?

[Scott]

So if I insult you right now.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah, Telepathically, Right.

[Scott]

I might have. Did I?

[Mystic Michaela]

Oh, ouch.

[Scott]

Did I?

[Mystic Michaela]

I think so.

[Scott]

I did.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Okay, so is that. Is that considered an insult at this point in time? I think the answer is no.

[Mystic Michaela]

Well, we have telepathic conversations all the time. Like, you and I barely even talk anymore with our. With our voices. Like, we have. We have whole fights telepathically.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay. All right.

[Scott]

I mean, I guess so.

[Mystic Michaela]

I. Yeah. I'm not even joking. It's true.

[Scott]

See, that's the thing. I. I think I'm better at giving off the message than getting it back.

[Mystic Michaela]

Like, you're probably get my messages. Yeah, yeah, because, like, you'll get all, like, victim blue about it. Like, if I'm, like, in my head, like, can you, like, you know, not make your coffee right now? I'm trying to do dishes. Like, I'll say that to you telepathically, and you'll be like, you know, Megan, that wasn't nice. And I didn't say anything.

[Scott]

You know what it is? I think. I think I ignored them. Like, I ignore your. Like, it's hard. Like, if you actually tell me something.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

I can't ignore it because I heard it.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

Like, it hurt. You know, it went through my ear, whatever, my ear canal. I don't know how that all works, but you know the science behind that.

[Mystic Michaela]

The audio.

[Scott]

Yeah, the audio. Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

But when you telepathically send it to me, I have this thing. I just. I turn it off.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

I turn it. Turn it off.

[Mystic Michaela]

That's good.

[Scott]

Yeah. So. Yes. Yeah. A couple of times you told me about that coffee thing, and I just haven't been listening.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

I turned it off.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah. Okay.

[Scott]

I mean, so what are. What. I guess. I guess how would you use it other than between me and you? So. For me driving.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

You know, I'm in the line at Whole Foods or something like that, and someone's annoying and taking up all the time oh, yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

You hate that.

[Scott]

I can't stand it. And they forgot something. If you forget something. Okay, here's another thing. Way off topic.

[Mystic Michaela]

No, just go for it. If you're at the grocery store, right.

[Scott]

And you're in line and you know, look, I do this all the time. I forget one item, right?

[Mystic Michaela]

The sour cream or something.

[Scott]

Yeah, I always forget the sour cream. That's like.

[Mystic Michaela]

Who remembers that?

[Scott]

You remember sour cream and you're in that line and then at these grocery stores, they're nice. They'll go and get it for you. I know, but if there's people behind you. That's nasty.

[Mystic Michaela]

I know.

[Scott]

That deserves a nasty telepathic insult.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah, I agree.

[Scott]

Yeah. So that. That's certain. Another one for me. What about for you? Is there any how you would use telepathy?

[Mystic Michaela]

I think, like.

[Scott]

I mean, to people in.

[Mystic Michaela]

You know, like close talkers.

[Scott]

Oh, close talkers. Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

You know, which happens a lot to me at the gym with a lot of your little buddies.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

That you make. They. Because they're friends with you. They think they can talk to me too, which is nice.

[Scott]

I sound mean, right?

[Mystic Michaela]

But they sound very nasty. But they get very close.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

And like I'm. I'm like eye level to their nipples or something because they're tall and big. And I'm like. Okay. And they're, like, really close. And I got like a nipple in my eye.

[Scott]

Yeah. That's disgusting.

[Mystic Michaela]

They're like, real. I mean, God bless them, but they don't. They don't worry about body odor.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

There's no. No Lumi there.

[Scott]

No, there's one. There's this one girl at the gym and she smells. She.

[Mystic Michaela]

And you have a bad sense of smell.

[Scott]

Bad. So she must wreak if you go. If you catch the wind, it's bad. You could feel it from the bench press to the dumbbells.

[Mystic Michaela]

Damn. Do people mention it?

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

Oh, they do.

[Scott]

Yeah. Chuck. Chuck, the trainer there.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah. With the foot fetish.

[Scott]

Yeah, with the foot fetish. And he was. I actually saw him on Amazon looking up, like, things to plug his. Because he trains her. He was looking up things so that he wouldn't smell her.

[Mystic Michaela]

Oh, my. He needs, like, smelling salts or something.

[Scott]

But if he could telepathically tell her.

[Mystic Michaela]

Oh, my God.

[Scott]

Yeah. Okay, so that one's.

[Mystic Michaela]

So anyway, so close talkers. And I would tell them telepathically, like, go away. We're done talking now.

[Scott]

Or what? Like, you know, for the Christmas party when it's time to go. I'm I am constantly sending out the telepathic message.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

Nobody's picking it up.

[Mystic Michaela]

Nobody picks it up.

[Scott]

I mean, some people do. Some people do. There's a couple families that get the. You know. But, yeah, I would love that.

[Mystic Michaela]

You always kick them out verbally. It's time to go.

[Scott]

Yeah, I use my broom.

[Mystic Michaela]

You start vacuuming around their feet.

[Scott]

Yeah. Or when someone's talking incessantly like this, and they're continuously talking and you want them to stop talking on the podcast. Like that. And someone right now is telepathically telling me, scott, stop talking.

[Mystic Michaela]

There's so many ways to use telepathy.

[Scott]

There's so many ways. There's just so many ways. What about, like, when people do, like, rude things in public?

[Mystic Michaela]

Like what?

[Scott]

I mean, what?

[Mystic Michaela]

All the time, you're like, like what? Everything.

[Scott]

Everything.

[Mystic Michaela]

We don't even know why you go out anymore. Point.

[Scott]

Right.

[Mystic Michaela]

Do.

[Scott]

I mean, there was. Okay, how about this one time, and we're in Brooklyn. Bagel.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Okay. We're eating our bagel and we're on, like, you know, like, the seating where there's, like, tables and then there's chairs on one side and then there's, like, a booth going along the other. All the tables.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yes, yes.

[Scott]

So we're sitting at one of those. And then there's a man at the table next to us. And he's on my side because I'm on the booth side.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

And we're just talking, having a conversation. Me and you are having a conversation. And all of a sudden, the man literally up his butt cheek.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yes.

[Scott]

And just farts.

[Mystic Michaela]

Farts. I forgot about that.

[Scott]

As could be.

[Mystic Michaela]

This wasn't even that long ago. You guys, what do you do? I just had to paint this one more time.

[Scott]

Okay, thank you.

[Mystic Michaela]

It's a booth all against the wall. Scott's right next to him, but the tables are a little separated. And he does the butt cheek thing where he doesn't even lift the butt cheek away from us. He lifts the butt cheek towards us. He balances on his right butt cheek so that his left butt cheek is up. All of a sudden, we hear and immediately smell it.

[Scott]

Yes.

[Mystic Michaela]

Surrounding our bagels.

[Scott]

Right.

[Mystic Michaela]

And it was so rude. And I listen. It was so on purpose or so rude. I don't think I said, like, oh, my God. I said, like that out loud and that loud. I said, oh, my God.

[Scott]

But I don't think it was on purpose because he. He just.

[Mystic Michaela]

It wasn't perfect. He had, like, a smirk after he gets newspaper.

[Scott]

I don't think so. No.

[Mystic Michaela]

Some people are into stuff like that, Scott.

[Scott]

Seriously.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah, Some people are like, I go out in public and I just. I just let him loose on people and, I don't know, they think about it later and it serves some purpose for them.

[Scott]

Oh, come on. I can't. I cannot believe this to be true.

[Mystic Michaela]

We should have labeled this overtime.

[Scott]

All right, Overtime. Go back. You should have telepathically. They should have telepathically. No, see, I said in my head. This is overtime.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay. Oh, did you guys get it?

[Scott]

Did you get the message?

[Mystic Michaela]

Scott said it three minutes.

[Scott]

Yes.

[Mystic Michaela]

A few eight minutes ago.

[Scott]

Yes. At the 42 minute mark of the podcast.

[Mystic Michaela]

Actually, like 8 minutes and 50 seconds.

[Scott]

Because I didn't know what to do in that moment other than dispel it. And then.

[Mystic Michaela]

Oh, you just really inhaled, too. When somebody farts, like, you go like. You do.

[Scott]

That's a lie.

[Mystic Michaela]

You do.

[Scott]

That's a lot.

[Mystic Michaela]

No, with somebody farts, you really like, you, like, empty out all the air.

[Scott]

And, you know, of all the things you've ever said on this podcast, that is a total lie. I'll admit to that. All the other things I've done, everything else I've done in life, I admit to, but I did not do that.

[Mystic Michaela]

Why did I blank out? Brooklyn Bagger, Farter Man.

[Scott]

Yeah. I'm so traumatized.

[Mystic Michaela]

I was just like, oh, my God. And we left.

[Scott]

I didn't know what to do, so I telepathically sent him a message. Like, you were disgusted.

[Mystic Michaela]

Maybe he didn't want to hear us talking.

[Scott]

Maybe he didn't.

[Mystic Michaela]

I mean, but he sat down next to us.

[Scott]

He did. And he was. I thought he was, like, just reading the newspaper.

[Mystic Michaela]

He was.

[Scott]

And it just happened.

[Mystic Michaela]

He had a smirk. Anyways.

[Scott]

So you think it was on purpose?

[Mystic Michaela]

I don't know. Telepath. I didn't. That wasn't. I said oh, my God out loud. That was nasty. That's just uncalled for.

[Scott]

Yeah. All right.

[Mystic Michaela]

I feel like there's no other place to end it except right there.

[Scott]

Well, okay. Well, yeah, let's get. Okay, let's get off telepathy.

[Mystic Michaela]

All right?

[Scott]

And let's go. And I do want to. This is my last thing I'm going to talk about today.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

I just got the message. Someone said end it here. Someone just told me to end it.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah, a listener.

[Scott]

But we. We did finish Severance.

[Mystic Michaela]

Oh, yeah.

[Scott]

There's good news and bad news with this. The. The. It's. The second season was. To me, it was just bad okay, it was bad. The first season was good, second season bad. I do not rec. I do not recommend it to people.

[Mystic Michaela]

Okay.

[Scott]

It. It's thought provoking in the first season. Then second season, you find out things and you're just like, okay, whatever you're doing filler. Ben Stiller, what are you doing here? He's a director. And so the ending was fine. Whatever the ending was, actually, I was okay with it.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

That's the good news. Because the show got so bad, I didn't care. What do you. What was your take?

[Mystic Michaela]

I thought the thought provoking. We talk a lot about our innies and outies now.

[Scott]

Yes, we do.

[Mystic Michaela]

And I don't want to do spoilers, but without the spoiler, I think you could really think about how your innie might sacrifice everything your Audi's put out there in order to live some sort of deep fulfillment that otherwise you never would have, like, known about, even if it put your whole life on fire.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

So I feel like at the end was a bit of a purple bomb. Yeah. Okay.

[Scott]

It was a purple bomb. Yeah.

[Mystic Michaela]

For the main character. But I thought it was cool because, like, we've been talking a lot about innies and outies and like, I would never separate my consciousness like that. But if you could, how interesting it would be to find out how differently you'd live or what different choices you'd make or what kind of person you'd be.

[Scott]

Right. The whole nature versus nurture argument.

[Mystic Michaela]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Scott]

Like, if you didn't grow up the way you did.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

Would you be different?

[Mystic Michaela]

Kind of interesting that way.

[Scott]

Yeah, that's interesting.

[Mystic Michaela]

It's not the worst show. I thought it was. Okay. I'm okay with leaving it at season two. Yes.

[Scott]

I'm okay with that show.

[Mystic Michaela]

I feel like the ending to me was like, okay, got it.

[Scott]

Yep. The ending was fine.

[Mystic Michaela]

Right.

[Scott]

I learned enough that I. All that I needed to know.

[Mystic Michaela]

I thought it was a. Actually, I thought it was the perfect ending and they don't have to keep going, but they are, apparently.

[Scott]

No, don't keep going.

[Mystic Michaela]

They are.

[Scott]

Ben Stiller, Stop Vacation.

[Mystic Michaela]

I read he has a whole story arc, so it'll. I don't know, there's completion.

[Scott]

Well.

[Mystic Michaela]

And.

[Scott]

Yeah. And that's the problem with this because it's just. Now it's over.

[Mystic Michaela]

Explaining.

[Scott]

It's over. Explaining.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

The first season was so good because it was so mysterious.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

And now I kind of. All the mystery is gone. And now there's no need to continue with that. The good news, the greatest news to come out of this. The second. The second the credits rolled.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yeah.

[Scott]

I canceled Apple tv.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yes.

[Scott]

So not. Do not have Apple TV anymore.

[Mystic Michaela]

Yes.

[Scott]

I love it when I can cancel a subscription. It's actually my favorite thing.

[Mystic Michaela]

It's your favorite thing to do is cancel a TV subscription.

[Scott]

Top thing.

[Mystic Michaela]

All right, so this podcast is for you, about you, and we're so glad you spent some time with us today.