EP318: Who is Draining My Energy? Energy Vampires & Energy Eaters?

Summary

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Know Your Aura with Mystic Michaela

EP318: Who is Draining My Energy? Energy Vampires & Energy Eaters?

Released: April 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Mystic Michaela dives deep into the concepts of energy vampires and introduces her unique idea of "energy eaters"—the people who not only drain your energy but cultivate relationships so they can continually harvest your vitality. Using aura colors as a lens, she helps listeners understand how and why certain people feed off our life force, what differentiates energy eaters from energy vampires, and how to recognize if you’re a victim—or even an unwitting participant—in these draining dynamics. Throughout the discussion, Michaela uses real-life stories from the show's listener community, offering tangible examples and empathetic strategies for reclaiming your energetic boundaries.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Understanding Your Energy and Aura

• What is Your Energy?
  • Michaela likens your energy to your "life force" and aura: "It's an extension of you... like your ozone layer. That's your life force energy." (00:58)
  • She emphasizes that this life force is not infinite and requires self-care and healing to maintain.
• Significance of Protecting Your Energetic Body:
  • Your aura is the first line of defense, filtering out negative influences when it's strong and healthy. When depleted, you're more susceptible to physical, mental, and spiritual problems, and more likely to fall prey to others who would drain or eat your energy. (01:57)

2. Energy Vampires vs. Energy Eaters

• Energy Vampires:
  • Classic term for those who suddenly drain your emotional resources and move on.
    • “They come in, they take what you got... see ya.” (04:23)
• Energy Eaters (Michaela’s Own Concept):
  • More insidious and relationship-based, energy eaters foster ongoing drama and neediness, essentially “fattening you up” for ongoing energetic consumption.
  • "Energy eaters create a relationship with you so that they can form a sort of pattern to feed and feed and feed... Like a pig on their farm. They’re feeding you every day." (04:26)
• Illustrative Analogy:
  • The hosts use a ‘Vampire Diaries’ reference:
    • “When Damon goes and feeds on someone... that’s an energy vampire. If he keeps someone half-drained in a basement—feeding and draining—that’s an energy eater.” (04:50 – 05:16)

3. Are We All Capable of Being Energy Eaters?

• Listener anxiety: Are all empaths secretly energy eaters?
  • Michaela reassures: “Everyone has phases where you’re a little draining… but the difference is, it’s temporary. Energy eaters are doing it on purpose.” (05:50 – 06:59)
  • She stresses intent and persistence as the differentiation.

4. How Do Energy Eaters Operate?

• Primary Methods:
  • Drama: “Did you hear what our mutual friend said about you?... now you’re anxious, now you’re emotional, and they’re eating it.” (07:38 – 08:04)
  • Crisis: “Constant barrage of crisis... not just once in a while.” (08:14)
  • Guilt-tripping and Critique: Making you feel bad for your happiness or offering ‘helpful’ but biting criticism.
  • Boundary Violations: Intrusive communication, lack of respect for your time or needs.
    • “They text you at 3am… have no respect for your life.” (09:34)

5. The Role of Aura Colors

• Victims of Energy Eaters:
  • Double empaths (blue, purple, turquoise, indigo) are most sensitive and susceptible, often aware but still stuck in the pattern.
    • “If you’re a double empath… most likely you’re more aware of it, and you’re still participating in it.” (11:10 – 11:26)
• Energy Eaters’ Aura Colors:
  • Can be any color. Logic colors (red, yellow, green) may engage out of convenience or calculated pattern, while double empaths may be more passive-aggressive or ‘pathetic’ energy eaters. (13:08 – 13:42)

6. Signs You’re Being Drained by an Energy Eater (or Vampire)

Michaela’s “Three Tells” (15:31):

1. Constant pattern: “There’s always something going on... this is a patterned character trait.” (15:49)
2. Exhaustion: “Absolutely exhausted after you hang out... even reading a text gives you anxiety.” (16:01)
3. Feeling Their Presence: “You feel them thinking about you... worried about their perspective all the time.” (16:15)
   • “People have tethers… energetic bridges… when you can’t stop thinking of them, they might be tugging on your energy.” (16:25 – 17:52)

7. Listener Stories & Notable Moments

Julie’s Story — Romantic Energy Depletion

• "It’s like he used up all my light... once he was gone, my light started to come back." (24:17)

Ashley’s Story — The Best Friend/Klepto Roommate

• "She ego built me up... then did this to me. She... made me feel crazy and that was the real cherry on top." (25:20)

Molly’s Story — Pep Talk Eaten

• Spent an hour encouraging a relative, who then credited herself. “She sucked my energy then credited herself... I felt annoyed and in a low vibe.” (27:29)

Aaron’s Story — Business Partner Gone Wrong

• “He used my skills... to build a book of business... He walked away with the business in the end. I feel like I’m the lucky one because I got to rebuild my life without him.” (28:44)

Elizabeth’s Workplace Tale

• "The energy I spent resisting her negativity... left me sleepy for hours afterward." (34:18)

Jenny’s Longstanding Draining Friendship

• "It was like feeding a black hole or a bottomless pit... hangouts with her felt good and painful and draining all at once." (35:20 – 36:03)

8. Strategies and Reflections

• Setting Boundaries:
  • Once you recognize the pattern, limit access and emotionally disengage, even if it feels uncomfortable.
• Self-Compassion:
  • Michaela normalizes the urge to feel guilty about disengaging, especially for empaths, but emphasizes that “feeding” energy eaters isn’t helping them or you.
• Mutual Reciprocity:
  • Healthy relationships involve energy exchange, gratitude, and mutual benefit—not perpetual one-way giving.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "Your energy can be food for other people... you can be like an energy drink, like a monster drink, for people who are lacking."
  — Mystic Michaela (02:35)

• "Energy eaters create a relationship with you so that they can form a sort of pattern to feed and feed and feed... Like a pig on their farm."
  — Mystic Michaela (04:26)

• "Yes, everyone has phases where you’re a little draining to someone... But the difference is it’s temporary. Energy eaters are doing it on purpose."
  — Mystic Michaela (05:47 – 06:59)

• “If you’re a double empath… most likely this has happened to you more than other aura combinations.”
  — Mystic Michaela (11:10 – 11:25)

• “You’ll know because there’s a constant character trait, you’re exhausted after being with them, and you feel them thinking about you all the time.”
  — Mystic Michaela (15:31–16:15)

• "Hangouts with her felt good and painful and draining all at once... like feeding a black hole."
  — Listener Jenny (35:20–36:03)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Definitions & differentiations (Energy Vampire vs. Eater): 00:54–05:33
• Signs and tactics of energy eaters: 07:41–09:50
• Aura color breakdown: 11:02–13:46
• How to recognize you’re being drained: 15:31–17:24
• Listener stories: 22:52–36:03
• Workplace ties and reflections: 28:44–34:18

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Tone & Language

Continuing her signature upbeat-yet-deeply empathetic style, Mystic Michaela mixes practical energetic wisdom with playful banter (often volleyed with co-host Scott). She demystifies “woo-woo” concepts using pop culture analogies, humor, and accessible language, making even complex spiritual energy dynamics easy for her empathic, mostly female audience to understand and relate to.

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Summary

This episode shines a revealing—and sometimes uncomfortable—light on how complex, ongoing energy dynamics shape relationships, especially for those attuned to spirituality and aura color theory. By differentiating fleeting energy vampires from recurring energy eaters, Mystic Michaela equips listeners with the knowledge to spot unhealthy energetic patterns, understand their susceptibility based on aura color, and empowers them to set compassionate boundaries—restoring their own vital force in the process.

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Transcript

[A]

Foreign.

[B]

Hey, Mystic Michaela spiritual family. Welcome to Know youw Aura with Mystic Mikayla. Today we are talking about energy eaters. Who are the people in your life that eat your energy? Not just eat it, but sometimes they actually feed your energy so that there's more to harvest and eat. You may have heard these people called energy vampires. This is kind of more. It's a little bit more toxic, but I bet anything you know someone in your life who has been eating your energy. But first. Hey, Scotty.

[A]

Hey, guys. Well, how. How many calories is that? Is that caloric?

[B]

Is it. Is this the keto diet?

[A]

That's my first question. Mediterranean, what is this? Vegan?

[B]

I don't know. Is it high protein?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That's funny.

[A]

All right, well, let's start with from the beginning here. Okay, so what is your energy?

[B]

So your energy is your life force. We all have a life force around us. This entire podcast about your aura, which is your life force in color, you know, so it's an extension of you, but it's not, you know, it's not just abundant all the time. Like you have to give it. You have to give it attention. You have to do self care, you have to heal it, you have to keep up with it. You know, if not. And it's drained, your energy around you is drained. Just like your. Your body can get physically drained if you're doing too much or not sleeping or not eating right or not doing all that. Your energy body, your life force energy can also get drained. And because of that, when that happens, you're more susceptible to physical problems, mental problems, spiritual problems. So it's kind of like, I think of it as like a little protective bubble around you all the time. Like your ozone layer. It's your own personal ozone layer. That's your life force energy.

[A]

Okay, so I guess what's the significance, the importance of all this?

[B]

So your energetic body, it's your first line of defense, you know, so you have to keep it healthy. It filters out a ton of energy around you that you don't want to come near you. So when it's healthy, it does a great job doing this. You know, you might not notice things or you might know to get rid of certain people in your life, or you don't even entertain certain people in your life. They don't even. They don't even seem as threats to you. But when it's weakened or because it's exhausted, just because of even sometimes life or trauma or stress or whatnot, it can break down. And then you can become subject to more energy infiltration. You can become subject to people that are like, ooh, there's an inn I want to come in. I want to pollute their energy. Because your energy can be food for other people. It can be like a drug that they take from. And. And then you can be like an actual energy drink, like a monster drink, basically, for people who are lacking their own resources, their own ability to make their own light, their own life force healthy, they just take yours. And instead of cultivating it from within themselves, they wait for you to do it, and then they eat it. And if you're not making enough, they have you participate in scenarios where you're giving energy so that they can harvest it later. It's really dramatic, but the way I think of it, it's like fattening your energy for the slaughter. It's kind of like the witch in Hansel and Gretel, you know, she puts. She puts them in cages and stuff and feeds them a lot because she's gonna eat them later. And that's what people do to you. They keep you in their life. They feed you drama. They feed you attention. They feed you, you know, neediness. And they do this so that you make more energy for them to eat.

[A]

All right, so question for you here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, so you just gave us a lot of information. I'm kind of trying to think what this is all about. So I know you've talked about energy vampires before.

[B]

It's a very common thing. Yeah, right.

[A]

And I've heard that term before.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Now, energy eater.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This one I haven't heard before. This is new. So what. Is there a difference between these two, or is this kind of the same thing?

[B]

Yeah, I don't know if other people talk about energy eaters. It's kind of my own thing that I've noticed Other people might, say, have different words for it or whatever, but I. This is. To me. Me. Yeah, that's my. It's kind of like from my head. Okay, okay. But energy eaters, it's different than vampires. Like, vampires come in and they take what you got, you know, so it's kind of like. They come in, you know, they're like, what do you got for me? I'll take that. See ya.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Energy eaters create a relationship with you so that they can form a sort of pattern to feed and feed and feed. Feed you. They feed you so that they are. You're a constant source of energy for them to, like, farm. So it's Kind of like. Like a. Like a pig on their farm. Like, you know, they're out there feeding you every day.

[A]

We're on season eight of Vampire Diaries, Right. So I'll just use this analogy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So when Damon goes and feeds on someone, he just usually throws them into the bushes after he's done.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's an energy vampire.

[B]

Right.

[A]

If Damon would then take this body of this person.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And drain them, but not drain them fully.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And keep them around half drained or whatever percentage. And they keep them around in their little basement they have in their mansion.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That would be the energy eater.

[B]

Yeah. Like they give them an iv. They're giving them the best food. Like, you know, this is like, very vampire specific, but it would be like if a vampire kept you around and was like, oh, here, you know, here's your vitamins. Here's your high protein diet. Because I want you to have, you know, know blood for me all the time, whenever I want it.

[A]

Okay, now, now, now. You made me a little. I. I have to be honest, I'm a little nervous now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now I'm thinking, am I an. Am I a energy eater? Do I eat energy? I don't know. Do we all eat energy?

[B]

Well, I mean, yes.

[A]

Am I an energy eater?

[B]

No. Okay.

[A]

I don't want to be an energy eater.

[B]

And I'm glad you brought that up, because literally everyone listening, because everyone who listens to know you're our podcast is usually just like the sweetest of empaths and the first thing they think of, it's like, oh, my God. Yeah, we're. I asked someone to do something yesterday to hand me my sweater from the chair next to me. Did I eat their energy? Like, no. Yeah.

[A]

Cause we have a lot of blue. I'm red blue. And now my blue's just taken over. And we have so many Indigos that listen to this podcast now we're all thinking we're energy eaters.

[B]

Not at all. Okay, so everybody has phases in life where you're going through something. Okay, so maybe you went through something in your life. Maybe there was a bad time, you know, or a breakup, or you weren't the best version of yourself for whatever reason. Maybe you were going through a crisis or whatever. That's more like energy vampire stuff, you know? Cause I think everyone has it in them, and I have too. When you're going through something tough in your life, sometimes you are a drainer to people around you. But the difference is it's temporary. Energy eaters are doing it on purpose. You know, I actually got. I actually, like, got inspired by this because I've seen this in my life and I've seen it, like, from people I do readings on. I'm like, oh, my God, that person's like, eating your energy on Purp. Yeah.

[A]

Like, they know they're doing it, or

[B]

a lot of times energy eaters, like, know they're doing it, or it's something that is a pattern to them enough where it's like, oh, my God, like, do you see what you're doing? It should be obvious to you right now. It's something that they become addicted to, like a poor behavior.

[A]

So. So they know they're hungry. They know and they know they're. They're doing it to you.

[B]

Yeah. Not everybody's like, a horrible person, right? You know, not everyone's like, this evil, awful person doing it. Some people are terrible, but some people aren't terrible. They just got into this habit along the way in life where they don't know how to cultivate their own energy, so they just keep people around and eat theirs instead. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

Well, the next big question then would be, yeah, how do they do it?

[B]

So how do they do this? A lot of it's drama. Okay? So if you've ever had a friend being like, did you hear what our mutual friend said about you? You know, there you go. They just. They just fed you. You're like, what would they say? Like, now you're anxious, now you're curious, now you're involved, now you're. Now you're emotional.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They're eating this right now. Your reaction. They're eating it. Like, there's no reason to tell you

[A]

that they fed you this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now they're. They're. They're getting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I don't want to use that term, but they're getting something.

[B]

Yeah. They're siphoning your energy off of you.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

Okay. I mean, sometimes it's crisis. My ex is dating my co worker. You know, it's like, okay, it's always crisis. It's always something. Or. Or my rent's overdue, I'm broke, Or. Or my. My car is in the shop and I don't know how to get it. There's always. It's not just this happens once in a while. It's like a constant barrage of crisis. Right? So, like, constantly.

[A]

Right. To define if this is once in a while thing, then that's.

[B]

That's not. That's not eating energy. That's just life happening. And it's okay.

[A]

Car is constantly.

[B]

If you know someone, it's like someone who's constantly like, hey, do you got 20 bucks? Hey, can you pick me up? Hey, do you have, you know, like that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Guilt. Okay, so anytime you, you know, maybe you want to, you, you. How do I say, like, there's something going on in your life. And you're like, oh, my husband, he's, you know, he took me out for my birthday. That's so nice. You have someone in your life that loves you. That must be really nice. I don't have anyone like that. So all of a sudden, like, now you feel guilty immediately, like, oh, God, maybe I shouldn't have said that. I said too much. They're eating that energy now. They're eating that critique. Okay? Critique is another way to get you, you know, no one else is going to tell you what I'm about to tell you. Okay? But I'm honest because I love you. You know, you don't look good in orange or something like that. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, my God, like, everybody else has been saying this. Like, I don't look at an orange and, oh, my. You know, they're eating this. So anything that gets you, like, a reaction or you start getting involved, you just know you've been fed. You've been fed something and they're like. And now they're siphoning your reaction from it. Your energy feeds them, and there's no boundaries. They always kind of leave you on edge. So people like this, they text you at 3:00am they text you, you know, when they know you're sleeping, they text you on the weekend. You know, they have no respect for your life. Sometimes these people interrupt you a lot when you're, when you're talking or you're talking about yourself, and they always dismiss your needs. So it's always about them, them, them, them, them. And it's hard because if they're more. If they're more kind of like a pathetic character, you know, you. You're like, oh, gosh. Well, you know, I should help them or I should listen or I should feed them my energy because they don't have much else going on, you know, and this is. They are sad and this. But that's. You're not helping them.

[A]

Okay? So that. And you bring up an interesting point here. So you said earlier that these eaters, energy eaters, know that sometimes they know they're doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then the people that are being fed on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They also sometimes know they're being fed on.

[B]

Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. But sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. And then sometimes you do. And you just do it anyway. And you do it anyway because you, like, feel bad. You're like, well, they don't have a lot going on or their life's so sad or they're a relative or something.

[A]

So would you. Does it. Now, let's put this into aura color for a second here. So would. Let's say you knew that you were being fed on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is there a certain. And I don't want to single out a color, but are these like your more deep empath colors that are getting fed on?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That are getting fed on, but maybe they also know that possibly they're being fed on.

[B]

Yeah. Yes. Okay. That's a good way. That's actually really good. Let's say that you're a double empath, right? You have. So the empath colors are blue, purple, turquoise, indigo. Let's say you have two of those.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Most likely this has happened to you more than other aura combinations. That's 1 and 2. Most likely you're more aware of it also. And most likely, once you're aware of it, you're still participating in it. Now, let's say you have a logic. In an empath color, this can happen. So let's say you're yellow, blue, or red, purple, or something like that, chances are this is still happening to you, but you might not care as much. It doesn't affect you as much. Once you figure out that it is, though, you're done.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's a big difference. You're like, I'm done. But I do notice that sometimes people with a logic color, when it's con, and this is because it can be convenient for them to keep participating in the energy exchange here because they don't want to be bothered with the consequence of ending the relationship. And I'll tell you what I mean. So, like, let's say for. And I see this all the time. This is like a very specific scenario, but I see this all the time. Like, let's. It's co parenting, okay? And let's say your parents, the stepmom in a situation, your husband's like green, blue, your double empath. And you notice that the ex that we are all co parenting with is just constantly putting scenarios out there. Constant drama, constant stuff. Constant, all this stuff. And your now husband, the ex's husband, you know that situation, he puts up a wall and becomes totally immune to it. And you're the one dealing with it. So. So sometimes logicolors can put a wall up and they're doing the energy eating thing, but they try to get other people in their, you know, periphery. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. That was very specific. I see that a lot.

[A]

Okay, so.

[B]

And then the.

[A]

So the energy eater.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Would you say more than likely has an elogic color usually, or could it be a double empath doing the eating as well?

[B]

Oh, no, it's. I see all aura colors doing this.

[A]

It doesn't matter.

[B]

Yeah. And normally I would say the more ones that you're kind of like, aw, they're like the pathetic characters doing it that you kind of feel more. Well, you know, they're more the double empath kind. And the ones who are a little bit more. Not to be mean to logic colors, but the ones who are more sinister with it, they got a logic color in there somewhere.

[A]

So what you're saying is we can't just blame the green purples for this.

[B]

We can't.

[A]

We usually blame the green purple guys a lot. We put a lot on green purple guys.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, we can't just blame them.

[B]

No. This is. Is really something that I see across the board. This is a human issue, like human condition. And I guess in the future, if people like energy eaters, I could talk about how it looks like in each aura color, but today I just wanted to introduce the idea of people that eat your energy by actually feeding it in order to siphon on purpose. And the relationship is ongoing.

[A]

Okay, interesting. What about if, like, you actually did have, like a need, a desire? Like what? Like, like maybe you really, truly have something going on? How do they usually react to that? So, like your. Your true needs that you might have.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Dismissal.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Guilt. Interrupting.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And all of a sudden they'll disappear

[A]

or make about them or something.

[B]

Disappear? Make it about them? Yeah, you know, and they're great at it. They're like genius at it. It's like playing chess, you know, with like a ma. With like a master chess player. Like, you're not gonna. You're not going to win it. Like, they're just so good at just being like, oh, okay, well, anyways, by the way, you know, and then how do you know? I guess this is happening to you.

[A]

Yes. I mean, that would be the question I would have now because I'm not familiar with this. Maybe someone right now has me tied up in the basement and is eating my energy.

[B]

Yeah. Metaphorically. Yeah. So you'll know because of Three things. Or literally, maybe. What? No idea what you just said.

[A]

Or literally. We don't have basements in Florida, so I'm good.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

There's a lot of Hannibal Lectors out there, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[B]

And you'll know because of three things.

[A]

I'm here for the comic relief. I'm here for the comic relief and to sometimes ask a good question.

[B]

Yeah, you ask great questions. And you're here for the red aura examples, too.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Am I good?

[A]

You're ready.

[B]

This is a constant character trait. It's not just because they're going through something temporarily. There's always something going on. This is a pattern. So this person is patterned at this way. Okay. Two, you are absolutely exhausted after you hang out with them or interact with them. Even reading a text gives you anxiety. And three, you feel them thinking about you. You find yourself worried about their perspective all the time.

[A]

Oh, that's an interesting. Okay. What? Go into that one a little more. So what do you mean? You feel like you'd actually feel someone thinking about you? Yeah, you can.

[B]

Everybody does.

[A]

I. I don't.

[B]

No, you do. You might not have awareness. You might think that somebody just popped into your mind and you're not making a connection. But you people have tethers. People energetically, we allow every exchange we have. We make like. You can look at it as like an invisible bridge between anyone you meet and you. Sometimes the bridges are a little more secure and stronger than others. Sometimes they're just kind of faded and not that big a deal or they're broken or whatever. But when you feel. But these energy eaters, they build and energy. Vampires do this too. I think the difference between, well, a vampire and an eater is that it's more pattern and it's all the time. And they constantly are feeding you things in order to take from you. But anyways, so back to when somebody pops into your head. You're just doing your thing, and you're just like, is Julia mad at me? Like that? Or I haven't heard from Julia in a while. Why isn't you Julia? Is Julia. Okay, wait, was Julia upset that I said, like, when. When you're starting to. Like, that's weird.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's not probably from you. You could be picking up them tugging on that thread because they've put so much into the bond between you. They kind of tug on it, and you almost become kind of, like, concerned with them more than yourself, like their feelings or their needs or whatever. It's because of the relationship that they've built with you eating your energy.

[A]

Maybe people just don't think about me.

[B]

I mean, you could call it.

[A]

I don't usually feel that.

[B]

Oh, okay. Start paying attention. Like the next, like, week when someone pops into your head, just. You gotta stop yourself. You can't be your thoughts. You gotta be the observer of your thoughts. So when somebody pops into your head, just like this week, I don't care who it is, just be like, why am I thinking of this person?

[A]

So you're saying that person was thinking of me?

[B]

Yeah, if you have. And then you have to kind of think to yourself, did I do something that reminded me of them? Like, so that's how you know it's from you or not. But if you're just, like, doing something and that person pops into your head, it's possible they were thinking of you. It's not always negative. Sometimes it's a positive.

[A]

It could be anything. So right now I'm gonna be thinking of a member of the Mystic Michaela spiritual. What I want to know.

[B]

Do you know which.

[A]

Which person am I thinking of? Are you really sure I'll think of someone?

[B]

Well, you should do it right now.

[A]

All right, ready? I'm going to think of someone, and then what I want this person to do is when we put up the thread, you know, for this week's episode, say I'm the one you were thinking of.

[B]

Are you clear on it, though?

[A]

I gotta be real clear, right?

[B]

Yeah. Do it right now. Send it out.

[A]

Get into, like, a more meditative.

[B]

So you're not doing it?

[A]

I'm gonna do it.

[B]

Do it right now.

[A]

Right now. Okay, fine.

[B]

Okay, he's doing it, guys. He's making a concentrated face. It's a little disturbing to look at, but it's very sick. Oh, he did it.

[A]

Oh, I threw it out.

[B]

I felt it.

[A]

And I'm going to tell you something.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This Crossed borders.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Interesting. Yes. Was that a clue?

[A]

That's a clue. Okay. I gave a clue. I already gave a clue.

[B]

Gave a clue.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I can't say who it is, though.

[B]

Okay? So if you know, they're Canadian. Okay, fine.

[A]

Yes, they're Canadian now.

[B]

That just gave it away now. Well, you said it. You said it across the board.

[A]

You don't know that it was Canada.

[B]

Well, there's a lot of Canadian mmsf. Let's see, let's see.

[A]

It could have been Mexico.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yeah, it could have been Alaska because you would have crossed the border to Canada.

[B]

Exactly. All right. That's right.

[A]

So. All right. Anyway, so if you think, if you know that I was thinking of you, you put that down there. All right, let's take a quick break. We come back, we get some Mr. Kayla spiritual family stories.

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[A]

Hey, guys. So apparently our members of the mystic Michaela spiritual family are being eaten alive.

[B]

Yes, we have a thread.

[A]

You put a thread up for their stories about energy eaters? Yes, and we're going to go through some of those. Some people talked about energy vampires in there as well and we did kind of. Hopefully we made it clear the difference between the two in the last segment.

[B]

Yeah, I'm just trying to like it's for me, I've noticed the differentiation, you know, a little bit. Like it's just when somebody keeps it going, right. It's more kind of an eating thing versus just sucks you dry and moves on. Yeah, yeah. It feels more kind of like nefarious when they keep feeding you stuff because you're so good to eat, you know, like that.

[A]

I mean, in a way, I guess maybe it's a compliment.

[B]

Well, that's the problem with us double empaths. We're like awesome.

[A]

Thank you for eating on me.

[B]

Thanks for eating.

[A]

This is not overtime.

[B]

Moving on. All right, all right. So yes, I saw. Great thread. Yes, really vulnerable as always. The MMSF really shows up with their stories. I took a couple. I have Julie first. So Julie said, the person I dated before I met my husband. I remember how strong and vibrant I was at the beginning. How he was relentless about getting me to go out with him. And by the end of that relationship I felt completely depleted and lost, like I didn't know myself at all. When he left me, it was devastating because I'd spent the relationship giving on all my energy to help him. Even though he came from a background of money, access and connections and I'd been the scrappy, made it to NYC on my own without any of those things. It's like he used up all my light. And towards the end I had this thought come to me. Right before he broke up with me. He's going to leave me because I have nothing left to give. It was only a month or so after that when he told me he wasn't in love with me and didn't think he ever would be. I felt thrown away and like I had to start my life all over again. What did I like? What did I want? What were my interests, goals? It was strange. Yet once he was gone, my light started to come back. A woman I'd met in an event when I was with him showed up months later at a different event when I was with my new boyfriend, now husband. She didn't recognize me at all. When she realized who I was, she looked at me in awe and said I had so much light. And. And I understood what she meant. I thought that was really interesting, like how she understands, like he ate her light.

[A]

He ate the light.

[B]

Yeah. And then she said her talking it over with my husband. Her husband said, you dated an energy vampire. I would call it an energy eater in this case. I'd never heard that phrase before. Energy vampire. That's exactly what that was. It still haunts me how that relationship derailed me from my own dreams and goals for a time. And. And how long it's taken to truly find my way back to myself. Right. Like he was keeping her around.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And feeding off of her.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

And. Yeah. And she was so depleted, he had to go elsewhere to eat more energy from someone else.

[A]

So what? I guess. So at one point, you're all your energy is going to be depleted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then this energy eater is still going to be hungry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But if they're not getting that out of you anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's when they break up with you. That's when they move on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's when you're. They're going to leave.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And go on to the next victim.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. I love that one. That was great.

[B]

Yeah. I'm glad she got out of that.

[A]

Yeah, I'm glad she got out. I mean, right?

[B]

No, I know what you mean. It's a good example.

[A]

Good example. Yeah.

[B]

All right. Ashley writes, Yes. I had. I thought this was so wild. Okay. I had to do this one. I had a roommate in college who quickly became my best friend. We did everything together and felt like the same person. How many experiences have we had like that? Then I noticed my things going missing. Would find them in random places. After voicing to her how I didn't know where my things were, I felt crazy. Well, long story short, I found a bin of my stuff in her closet. It had my undergarments, makeup, clothes, etc. I immediately felt like my aura had been sucked dry. Someone ego built me up and made me believe she was my best friend and then did this to me. She, of course, made up some story to make me feel crazy and that was the real cherry on top. So she was like, making her, like, doing head games on her.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then when she was like, where's my lipstick? Where's my under? Where's my favorite shirt? She was like, I don't know, it's so weird. And she was just sitting there on her little dorm room bed just eating it. Could she, like, what a.

[A]

What was that term? Like a kleptomaniac, where you just, like, steal everything, no purpose.

[B]

So, like, like, maybe there's a couple problems with this girl. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Two things could be true. So maybe, yes, she's an energy eater, but she's also an undiagnosed kleptomaniac.

[B]

Yeah, that could be it. Yeah. As well. So I've heard, like, kleptomaniac in such a long time. I feel like that was an insult we used to throw at People like clever kids.

[A]

You're a klepto.

[B]

Klepto. We didn't even know what we were saying. Yeah, but, like, how insane is that? And then she would just, like, watch her, like, crash out. Like, where is it?

[A]

Did she do anything with the items?

[B]

So many questions.

[A]

A lot of questions.

[B]

Like, Ashley, was she wearing, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, when you were out of the room, is she putting on your lipstick and, like, talking to herself? Like, what kind of weird crap was happening?

[A]

Right. Maybe she was trying to be her.

[B]

Or, like a single white female, like the movie. That's real scary. Yeah, there's a lot there. But I just. It was a wild story, so. But they were best friends, you know? How weird is that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. This was. This is a short one, but I just loved it. Molly writes. Yes, often. One incident was one of my family members. I felt like I talked to her for an hour to encourage her to go for a promotion at work. I felt like I was so positive and encouraging. I could feel her vibes feeling better. And after an hour, she goes, well, I talked myself into it. Lol, biatch. What? I was like, excuse me. I felt like she sucked my energy, then credited herself. Then I felt in annoyed and in a low vibe. Oh, wow. You ever have somebody, like, give you, like, pep talks and then they just like.

[A]

So basically what she did to this lady was. Sorry, what's her name again?

[B]

Molly.

[A]

Molly. So you. So she ate from Molly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And didn't even give her credit.

[B]

Yeah. Because that would have been at least the mutual reciprocation here.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, thank you, Molly.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Because of what you said in that hour of your life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, you xyz. That would have been enough for Molly. And that's not energy vampire. That's not energy eater. You know what I mean? But she just, like, ate that and sucked it and then, like, called it her own. Yeah. Gross.

[A]

She gave no credit.

[B]

No credit.

[A]

No credit.

[B]

All right. Terrible. Aaron writes, I thought this was really good for, like, a work situation. My former business partner. Yeah, those are, like, romantic relationships. Just as bad sometimes. My former business partner, he used my skills, strategies, emotional intelligence, and interpersonal abilities to build a book of business. Of course, I never received credit for the work I was putting in. He was showered with prison praise and money for what other people thought he was doing. The more I gave in the name of doing a good job and trying to give back to my employer, the more this individual took and the worst of all, the more he needed it. I put My heart into everything I do. And in this case, it was used until I had almost nothing left in myself. Eventually, he decided we would build a business together so he could keep me around and eat it. Eat her, Keep me around and still emotionally, professionally, and physically drain me. I narrowly escaped and had to rebuild myself piece by piece. Once did I get out. He threatened me until I had to hire a lawyer to defend my interests. Oh, my God. In the business. Of course, he walked away with the business. In the end. I feel like I'm the lucky one because I got to rebuild my life without him. You are. Because nothing's free. And whatever you had to pay those lawyers, whatever you had to do to get out, whatever. You know, not being around him, that's the investment. Oh, my God. He just ate her skills.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To look better than he was.

[A]

But, you know. And that's a great one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because, you know, when I think about this and, like, you know, I've always wanted to work for myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, you know, sometimes when you're working. These were partners, but.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just when people, like, work for others, you're working for someone else's business.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this maybe could put all these together. Like, when you're working for some, like, someone right now. Probably going to fume about this, but, like, you're working for them. They're. They're. And they are paying you, but they're also eating your energy.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If you're working like they're the owner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're. Let's say, the mastermind behind it. You're the workforce.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't. That, like, I know this is not exactly what you're talking about, but this is how, like, a red interprets us.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Like that's bad. Like, they're just eating. Eating your energy.

[B]

Well, it depends what they're getting out of it, you know, like, is it. How do I put it? If you're working for someone and it's their dream and their vision and their business. Stay with me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and. But it's a nice environment, and you've gotten friendships out of it, and you've gotten pay out of it, and you've gotten, you know, validation and gratitude out of it, or you feel like you're doing something that feels good to you, then it's. Then it's a mutual thing. Then they're not eating your energy. Then it's kind of more like a collective feeding of everybody's energy or whatnot. If that makes sense. No, of course.

[A]

No, I. No, I know. What you're saying, but.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it a, is it a, is it a fair shape? I don't like, is it 50, 50.

[B]

I guess it depends if you align with the vision of where you're working for.

[A]

Right, okay.

[B]

Like if you align with that vision.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it feels high vibrational to you and it's something you can, you can kind of connect to and take from. Kind of like a collective cooperative garden. You know, if we're all in there working in it together, you know, and somebody owns it, but we're all working on it together and we all take from it, then it's. Then it's like a nice little garden. But if someone's garden and you're working in it, but they're the ones that take all the veggies, that's not cool.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, like, like, like if we have a co op garden, it's a co op situation. Somebody might own the land and get like more carrots than you, but you still get carrots, you know? Does that make sense? Like that? Yeah, it has to be something like you get from. And it's, it's.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't mean to make it like every scenario where someone works with someone else, but yeah, I can see in many scenarios.

[B]

It depends. It depends if it's like, like this lady, you know, like Aaron was talking about, obviously he was just using her to, to get. I think we saw drivers drive ins and dives the other day.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We saw this amazing restaurant.

[A]

Yeah. There was this mate. And that's what I was actually thinking.

[B]

Yeah, I know you were. Because nobody watches more Guy Fieri than Scott.

[A]

Yeah. And like this lady was the chef and she was making all these incredible dishes and then someone came in, another person bought it, and then they took the restaurant over and she stayed on as their chef.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they, but it seemed to me just like looking at her energy that like they were the ones getting everything from this. Even though there would be nothing without this lady who was making these incredible dishes. And if she just said, I'm walking out tomorrow, you have nothing. Your restaurant is done, it's finished, you bought crap.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's what. Yeah, I was actually thinking about that. Yeah.

[B]

And that was.

[A]

And like I'm just. Yeah, I felt like, I guess I was tapping into her energy. Like she's just like being used by

[B]

these new owners, Right.

[A]

To have a successful restaurant. But she's the real success.

[B]

Yeah. Like she should be part owner. She should be, hopefully that, you know, they're paying her A lot. It didn't look like her aura didn't look. Yeah, her aura looked very like she was working.

[A]

If I'm picking up on.

[B]

On that.

[A]

Yeah, that, you know, it's bad.

[B]

It didn't look like that was a situation.

[A]

But that's what I'm trying to say.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yeah, there's probably a lot of these situations.

[B]

Yeah. Is your employer eating your energy?

[A]

Is your employer?

[B]

Is a great question.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they probably. And they might be in a lot of cases.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

All right. Elizabeth writes. Omg. Yes. Oh, here's another co worker. One. I had a co worker who would come to my desk and stop me in walkways to mostly complain. It felt worse than normal venting. And I didn't have even a close friendship with this person. The energy I spent resisting the negativity and trying to be sympathetic, maintain kindness was a battle. It always left me sleepy for hours afterward. Like, you know, like when people just kind of use you as their. Like they want. Oh, guess what? Guess what's happening. Guess what I heard. Guess what? Email. You know, they kind of want you to get upset.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that they can kind of like feed off your. Your reaction and what. But it's not good for you. That can be like a workplace energy eater situation. They get you going. Get you going. All right, I have one more. Okay, last one. Jenny writes. Wow. I've struggled with language to explain it, but yes, I think I've had someone in my life who does this to me. One of my long standing friendships is also my most draining relationship. I would give so much love and attention to her, but it was like feeding a black hole or a bottomless pit. And partway through our hangouts, I felt testy and defensive, like I was being internally sucked dry, like being dehydrated. But spiritually, she would even comment on how I was being mean. But honestly, I was just exhausted from endlessly hyping her up and being an empathic support with no end in sight or even energy exchange hangouts with her felt good and painful and draining all at once. And it took years to learn that I will never be able to give her enough of the love and accolades she needs now. Energetically, I put up my barriers and boundaries whenever she visits and I can still feel her energy trying to work around my attempted barriers and access my inner self and energy. It's wild. I thought she explained that really, really well, right?

[A]

Yeah, definitely.

[B]

So, yeah, I hope this helps everybody. Kind of just, I don't know, narrow the lens, you know, who do We. Who do we allow in our life?

[A]

Kind of know what to be looking. Looking out for.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Know the signs of it.

[B]

Know the signs.

[A]

Knowing you're being fed on.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Or when you're just kind of being used.

[B]

Vampires.

[A]

Like. Oh, fed. Bye.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And just kind of. What's the difference between a vampire and an eater?

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they're both not good to have around. But these eaters.

[A]

The eater is. Would be worse because the vampire kind of maybe just be a quick one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're. And you're done.

[B]

Well, the vampire is like, you go to your. You go to Thanksgiving, there's always sad Aunt sue in the corner. You're like, oh, God, who's sitting next to Aunt Sue? And she's always like, my cat died. You know, it's just all like. It's like sad Aunt Sue. All right. Like, that's like vampire stuff.

[A]

The other thing is, like, it seems like maybe the vampires are easier to escape or maybe they're not, like, that big in your life.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

Like, where the eater is like your boyfriend or your husband.

[B]

The eater, like coworker. They. They, like, want you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You taste good to them. You tasty. They crave you. Yeah.

[A]

You can get rid of this eater.

[B]

Don't be on doordash for these people. You know, I think if I think of it that way, it makes me easier to avoid people like this. And you don't have to feel guilty.

[A]

But then sometimes you, like, you're stuck with the eat. You could be stuck with the eater sometimes. Just like, let's say it's your husband, or let's say it is your boss.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You don't want to quit. Is a great. Maybe you do like the job.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're stuck with the boss or the. Or you're the coworker.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, so the eater. You could be kind of in a

[B]

pickle, in a big pickle and look like a pickle.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they want to eat that pickle.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So, yeah, this could. Yeah, that's a real pickle, I think. This is an ongoing discussion of energy eaters versus Energy vampires. And this podcast is for you and about you, and we're so glad you spent some time with us today.

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