#1010: January 27, 2025

Summary

Knowledge Fight Episode #1010 (Jan 27, 2025)

Release Date: February 21, 2025
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Topic: Dissecting the January 27, 2025, Alex Jones Show

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Overview

Dan and Jordan return with a new Knowledge Fight episode, diving into the January 27, 2025 broadcast of The Alex Jones Show. The hosts break down Jones’s latest bizarre assertions, his misleading takes on global politics, and a particularly embarrassing segment about Elon Musk, psychic Nazis, and Martian prophecy. This episode underscores Jones's increasing detachment from reality, his profound lack of self-awareness, and how the show has devolved into increasingly unserious fantasy—leaving real-world events all but untouched.

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Bright Spots & Banter (00:59–05:27)

• Dan’s Bright Spot: Tried a new peanut butter and jelly flavored M&M, disliked it; reviewed “Rice Krispie Treat Peeps” as an ouroboros of flavor (“The fact that they did it is hubris.” – Dan, 03:04).
• Jordan’s Bright Spot: Finally acquired a real chair after years of sitting on the floor due to backordered furniture.
• Ongoing banter about food, European marshmallow fascination, and existential musings about non-existent chairs.

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Main Theme: Alex Jones—Untethered from Reality

The core of the episode is Alex Jones’s delusional, hyperbolic response to the Trump administration’s first week back in office, current world events like the war in Ukraine, and a rapidly spreading social media meme about Elon Musk’s name and Nazi rocket scientists. Dan and Jordan chronicle how Alex increasingly ignores reality in favor of constructing paranoid narratives tied to personal psychic powers, Nazi prophecies, fantasy world orders, and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Alex’s Narrative on Trump’s “Blitzkrieg” (08:28–12:13)

• Jones’s Claim: Trump is “devastating the globalists” with over 500 rapid executive actions, a blitzkrieg that’s blindsiding opponents.
• Reality: Jones offers no specifics; Dan calls out the lack of actual policy content and how most “attacks” are just PR bluster or harmful culture war edicts.
  • “You’re supposed to be a policy wonk, you dipshit.” – Dan, 12:03

2. Distorting the Ukraine War and “Globalist” Plots (13:14–19:04)

• Jones’s Spin: NATO/EU are allegedly plotting to “break up Russia,” using nine-month-old comments by EU Vice President Kaja Kallas to provoke nuclear conflict.
• Fact-Check: Dan carefully explains the actual context—Kallas’s remarks on state collapse and Western fear of destabilizing Russia, not a literal plot to partition it. Alex ignores dates, content, and structural realities of the EU.
  • “He just saw a meme or some shit.” – Jordan, 16:46
  • “Alex is pretending this was something she just said, not something from nine months ago. It's stupid.” – Dan, 15:56

3. Rampant Misogyny and the “Princesses” of Europe (35:23–42:02)

• Jones’s Take: Rants about “arrogant princesses” running the EU, alleges they're all literal royalty, and makes repeated misogynistic jabs at female politicians’ competence.
  • “She doesn't know about technology. She doesn't know about drones. She doesn’t know about chemical weapons.” – Alex, 36:31
• Hosts’ Response: Call out the blatant sexism and absurdity of the "royal bloodline" conspiracy. Dan debunks specific claims about Kalas and other EU leaders.
  • “It's all attacking her based on her being a woman... misogyny powering this.” – Dan, 37:35

4. Conspiracies About Immigration, ICE Raids, and Birthright Citizenship (24:42–34:31)

• Jones's Rhetoric: Fans the flames on ICE raids, “illegal aliens blocking roads,” Dr. Phil/Chris Hansen joining ICE for promotional stings.
  • Ridiculously claims birthright citizenship is a “State Department policy”—ignoring the 1868 Supreme Court decision that established it.
• Hosts’ Deconstruction: Break down the constructed threats, racially charged accusations, and how these PR stunts should (by Alex’s own stated logic) be deeply suspicious to anyone worried about “state propaganda.”
  • “He justifies that [ICE raids] by pretending all the people getting caught up...are pedophiles and hardened criminals. But he really shouldn't be this stupid.” – Dan, 22:04

5. Crises in Romania: Election “Coups” and European Court Rulings (43:03–47:18)

• Jones: Wildly claims that a “EU coup” canceled Romanian elections, intentionally misreporting legal and procedural facts.
• Reality: Dan reviews the actual timeline—elections rescheduled, candidate appeals denied due to procedural reasons, not an “EU coup.”

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The New Heights of Absurdity

The “Prophecy” of Elon Musk (56:01–92:26)

• Meme Origin: Elon Musk tweets surprise about his name appearing in Wernher von Braun's “Project Mars”—in the novel, Mars's leader is called “the Elon.”
• Alex's Spin: Claims this is cosmic prophecy, not just nominative determinism or a dad obsessed with Nazi sci-fi.
  • “There's a leader...on Mars that's called the Elon.” – Dan, 57:11
• Psychic Nazis and Remote Viewing: Alex announces that von Braun was a psychic/remote viewer, as was Alex's own grandfather (!)—pointing to secret lineage and suppressed human superpowers.
  • “Vernon Von Braun was a super psychic and my grandfather’s mother was one too...Truth is stranger than fiction.” – Alex, 62:26
• Fluoride, Superpowers, and Globalist Mind Control: The classic conspiracy mix: fluoride reduces psychic awareness to prevent an anti-globalist uprising. Monarch butterflies’ migration proves suppressed “transceivers” in the brain.
  • “Fluoride calcification, pineal...Why would they do that?” – Alex, 94:51

Notable Quotes

• Dan on Alex’s logic:
  “You have what can only be described as the most brazen level of PR stunt type actions being made by a federal agency. And he has no concern that it might not be on the up and up. The fuck?” (22:04)

• Jordan on the episode’s thesis:
  “It’s like, we got to update the Boy who Cried Wolf, because that’s for people who don’t have fucking technology, you idiots. Now we’re in 2025. The Boy who Fake Cried about memes.” (55:17)

• Alex, lost in self-mythology:
  “I only say things that I think are accurate...98% of what we cover is documents, things going on...But most of the time, we’ve got the vast majority of something understood.” (75:19)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:59–05:27: Bright spots, candy/food banter, existential chair crises
• 08:28–12:13: Trump “blitzkrieg” and Alex’s lack of substance
• 14:51–19:04: Distortion of Ukraine, Kaja Kallas, “EU plotting to break up Russia”
• 21:57–24:58: Celebrity ICE raids, Alex’s inconsistent suspicion of state media
• 29:19–34:31: Birthright citizenship and legal history demolished
• 35:23–42:02: Misogyny, “princesses,” and EU fantasy royalty
• 43:08–47:18: Romanian election “coup” myth dismantled
• 56:01–63:59: The Musk/Elon/Nazi psychic prophecy meltdown
• 94:51–96:46: Pineal gland, fluoride, and global mind control explained by butterfly migration
• 107:11–112:48: Grand finale—type 1 civilization, rewriting human origin story, and total detachment from reality

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Memorable Moments

• Alex’s rating of Trump’s first week:
  “I would have to give him about a 200 [out of 100]...undeniable, over 500 actions now...” (19:37)

  • Hosts break down how these “actions” are nonspecific, likely meaningless, and not what listeners should care about.

• On Musk and prophecy:
  “If you hear that Wernher von Braun wrote a book and there’s a character, the Elon, in it...Is there a simple explanation?...This isn’t prophecy...Elon’s dad named him after the title of the Mars leader.” (57:36)

• The Psychic Jones Lineage:
  “My grandfather was extremely psychic...and I am a spitting image, that’s true...” (73:10)

  • Dan and Jordan theorize that family “eccentricity” is just inherited delusion, and are astounded at the freedom Alex now feels to spout fantasy with no accountability.

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Conclusion and Analysis

This Knowledge Fight episode highlights how far Alex Jones has drifted into self-parody. Jones shuns concrete news for recycled memes, ancient legal arguments, and mystical interpretations—now indulging openly in esoteric fantasies and his own invented mythology. Dan and Jordan tear apart these narratives with humor, context, and sharp reminders of the real-world stakes behind this kind of distortion.

The episode is not only an analysis of the day’s Alex Jones Show, but a satirical lens on conspiracy culture’s terminal velocity into unseriousness and pop culture pastiche. This is infotainment as metaphysical cosplay: The globalists are witches and princesses, the battle lines are drawn with Twitter memes, and Alex’s biggest scoop is literally that his grandpa was psychic.

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Recommended For:

• Anyone interested in right-wing disinformation analysis
• Fans of skeptical, comedic podcast breakdowns
• Listeners curious about the deranged overlap between American politics and conspiracy media

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Website:

knowledgefight.com

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End-of-Episode Sign-Off (112:44+)

Dan and Jordan riff on supervillain branding, Alex as the Magic School Bus’s Ms. Frizzle, and the surreal path of alt-media in 2025:
"Alex is so far up Elon’s ass that he can’t see daylight." – Dan

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Next time: more Alex Jones-show breakdowns, more real-world context, more schadenfreude.

Transcript

[Alex Jones]

Foreign. I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge of Fight.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Need. Need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy and Andy. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.

[Dan]

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a huge fan. I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge Fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Dan]

Dan Jordan. Dan Jordan, quick question for you. What's up?

[Jordan]

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

[Dan]

My bright spot is the checking back in on the food stuff.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

I went to a local convenience store.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And I saw an M and M that I had not tried before.

[Jordan]

A flavor of M and M. Yes. Okay.

[Dan]

Peanut butter and jelly.

[Jordan]

Interesting.

[Dan]

Interesting choice.

[Jordan]

All right. All right. I had not considered that in an.

[Dan]

M and M. Yeah.

[Jordan]

How was it?

[Dan]

Not great.

[Jordan]

I didn't. Mm.

[Dan]

I think it was just not. It didn't balance very well.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I thought it tasted kind of weird. I'm sure there's going to be some staunch defenders out there who are pissed off at my take, but I don't know, I just found it a little underwhelming because the idea I thought was like, ah, this is brilliant.

[Jordan]

It does feel like it should be. It feels like a smart idea that I do. I do. Like if I. If I go through the mouth feel of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and then compare it in Eminem form, I think it might be a bad idea. Yeah.

[Dan]

If you figure out how to make an Eminem real dry.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Hard to chew.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

I also had. Not too long ago this was. This got missed. In the. In the lineage of. In the food news, there's some peeps that have come out. New flavor of peeps that are Rice Krispie treat peeps. Wait, Right.

[Jordan]

Okay, hold on. Confusing as which direction is which.

[Dan]

It's a. Definitely a chicken and the egg thing. Because Rice Krispie treats are basically just marshmallows right now. This is marshmallow, right?

[Jordan]

What is it?

[Dan]

It's fine. It tastes like a marshmallow.

[Jordan]

Wait, wait, wait. Is the whole thing a marshmallow? That is flavor It's a peep. The whole thing is a regular peep.

[Dan]

It's a peep.

[Jordan]

Okay, so it is bird, the little bird, right?

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

I thought it was made out of Rice Krispie Treat.

[Dan]

I thought that when I saw the packaging, it was not. It's Rice Krispie Treat flavored marshmallow.

[Jordan]

Wait, what?

[Dan]

Which is just an ouroboros of flavor. It sucks, but I love the idea. The fact that they did it is hubris.

[Jordan]

What is the flavor of crunch and marshmallow? You know? Right.

[Dan]

I mean, Rice Krispies, A real subtle flavor. Well, as much as there is any.

[Jordan]

Flavor, it's basically marshmallow and crunch. Right? Like that's the, that's the, that's what you're there for.

[Dan]

Maybe a little bit of butter.

[Jordan]

Yeah, maybe a little bit of butter in there. Right. But you know, what are you getting out of a peep?

[Dan]

This would. You know who would love this?

[Jordan]

Who?

[Dan]

The Europeans.

[Jordan]

They. The European mind would love.

[Dan]

They have a fascination with marshmallows to the level that I think that this would really sell in the European market.

[Jordan]

It could. It could blow minds in the European market. Yeah.

[Dan]

So what's your bright spot?

[Jordan]

My bright spot is a follow up. Follow up on a bright spot from a few months ago.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

If you recall, I've been sitting on the floor for a few years and I, we. My wife and I, we had gone and we had purchased a chair. That chair never came.

[Dan]

Right.

[Jordan]

It was never going to happen. There was. It was all a lie. The chair did not exist. But it's always nice whenever they send you, like, oh, it's on backorder for a couple of weeks.

[Dan]

Did you try to get it on Wayfair and then like a kid showed up or something?

[Jordan]

I have no idea if, if that had happened, he was intercepted along the way.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

So I'll never know my part in the, in the exchange. Um, but yeah, at, at a certain point you go like, oh, the chair doesn't exist. Right. It's not like there's a. It's not like there's a factory somewhere and there's a chair waiting for me. And they're like, how do we get this chair to Jordan? What are we doing here? No, it doesn't exist yet. They're waiting for enough people to order to the chair, to make the chair, and then I'll get the chair maybe. Right.

[Dan]

I mean, that's. That's one possibility.

[Jordan]

Right. It is not like there's a truck somewhere that lost a wheel and like, it's hey, it's going to take us anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks to get this wheel fixed.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, sure. There. Yeah. You're being lied to about the existence of a chair.

[Jordan]

Exactly. It's not real. So it quit. Canceled. It ordered one online. Put it together today. It works.

[Dan]

Nice.

[Jordan]

It's not as good, but it works. It. It is real.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Which makes it far better than the other chair.

[Dan]

One of the qualities that you need in a chair is existence.

[Jordan]

It's. It is very important to me. Yeah.

[Dan]

Well, congratulations.

[Jordan]

So I got a chair.

[Dan]

Something to sit on.

[Jordan]

I do have. I am no longer on the floor. Hooray. Yes.

[Dan]

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

We're going to be talking about January 27th.

[Jordan]

Whoa.

[Dan]

What a shock. 2025.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

We are continuing our march through Alex's post. Trump coming back at a pace that is. I don't know, I feel. I feel really conflicted about this.

[Jordan]

Glacial.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I feel such a push and pull of like, there's a lot of stuff happening in the world.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

We're a ways back.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But also, I do feel like taking it slow. We're gonna talk about this. Apparently on every episode, my self conscious feelings about.

[Jordan]

I get it. But I mean, you know, the stuff that's happening isn't going anywhere.

[Dan]

It's true.

[Jordan]

You know, it's like the further away you get from the stuff that's happening, the more you realize like, oh, well, it's already basically happened anyways.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I worry too much about the ways in which I would sound like you. If we covered, like, immediate news.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You. You don't want to. You gotta. You need distance. You need distance from that. I can absorb things quick.

[Dan]

I think it's a little bit tough for me. Yeah. To not say things that I shouldn't.

[Jordan]

I lose my mind and then I get right back to work. It's fine.

[Dan]

Yeah. So anyway, we're gonna be talking about this episode, which is profoundly stupid.

[Jordan]

That makes sense.

[Dan]

It's shockingly stupid in a way that I think if I were Alex, I would just be straight up embarrassed to be doing this anymore. All right, but before we get into that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

Ooh, that's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first formulaic objections inspired me to be a court reporter, and all I got was this stupid student debt. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

So sorry. New Snack for Dan. Sponge, coconut, strawberry jam, marshmallow and biscuit. Enjoy. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

I have no idea what that means.

[Jordan]

It's sponge. That's what the person wanted to let you know that there is something called.

[Dan]

Sponge, and it includes coconut, strawberry jam, marshmallow and biscuit.

[Jordan]

You bet.

[Dan]

It sounds all right. I'll try it.

[Jordan]

You should try it next.

[Dan]

A cat functioning in a shady groove. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much. To Ethan, my firstborn. Little teeny baby. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

4 stars.

[Alex Jones]

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone. Someone. Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

So we start off on this episode and, like, I mean, Trump's doing a ton of shit.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

There's a lot happening in the world. Yeah, there's a lot happening. You don't really get a sense of a lot of it from Alex's show. You do get, like, sort of vague gestures at stuff.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Pointing over here.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And so he starts the show talking about how Trump is doing a blitzkrieg.

[Alex Jones]

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday, January 27, 2024.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And my job is cut out for me here today. I gotta tell you, things are moving so incredibly quickly. Trump is 100% devastating the globalist in live time. They are also throwing every lie and piece of propaganda they can at him. This is going to be a stunning transmission today, and I'm going to do my best to cover all of this and move as quickly as I can. Obviously, I am going to chronicle the amazing things Trump is doing, and that is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. Over 500 actions now. And he set aside a bunch of other executive orders just devastating the globalists with a blitzkrieg attack and they can't even respond. That are in freefall. But as I've said hundreds of times, I would expect that they would just escalate the war in Ukraine before he can get a peace deal done. And that would be done by sending in NATO or UN Peacekeepers Even if Trump tries to block that, NATO can outvote the United States and go in.

[Dan]

So the conversation that's happening in the real world around this is that if Russia and Ukraine are able to come to an agreement to end the war, part of it needs to be support from Europe for Ukraine. Putin has invaded the country multiple times, so it's foolish to just imagine that he's going to willingly stick to any kind of peace settlement because everyone knows that Putin's not gonna honor the deal. The peace needs to include a threat. One option is admitting Ukraine to NATO, so if Putin attacks them again, it'll trigger Article 5. Another option is deploying serious security forces that will respond strongly to any potential Russian attacks. The idea is that a peace deal needs a deterrent that will make Putin less likely to attack again. But as we can see with the way Trump and his administration have behaved, the that's not going to happen. Trump has made clear that the policy he's going to pursue is to blame Ukraine for the war starting and support a peace that's based in pure capitulation to Putin. One gets the sense that the world superpowers are starting to enter a bit of a new world order where might makes. Right. And Alex is imagining some kind of globalist moves in there.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. It would be hard. It would be hard to imagine a five year plan that included Taiwan being independent. It would be hard to be hard to put that together in a, in my mind eye, if I was, if I was reading the tea leaves, if you will.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know what I'm saying?

[Dan]

It's a hard, it's hard to imagine almost a five year plan that involves.

[Jordan]

It's hard to imagine five years.

[Dan]

Yeah, let's just put it there. It's hard to imagine a plan.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

So, yeah, I mean, I just think that you get this general sense of like Trump is doing a lot.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But there's very little specifics, very little in terms of like the. What are these executive orders? You're supposed to be a policy wonk, you dipshit.

[Jordan]

I mean, it is, it is interesting to have him be like a theoretical policy wonk. But the gist is like, this is a battle. People are moving their pieces across the board. They're fighting with machine guns. But what we're really describing is like Trump wrote a thing that now this school is going to have to restructure its budget over the next 10 years.

[Dan]

Right.

[Jordan]

You know, it's like, it's maybe not as dramatic an attack on the globalists as you think.

[Dan]

Yeah. And like, the government can't acknowledge the existence of trans people.

[Jordan]

Pew, pew, pew. Got em. Shooting the death stars explode.

[Dan]

Oh, no. The devil.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

See, but there's very little meat, I find.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And it'll be comical as we get through this episode, but for now, you know, Alex has discovered that the, the, the eu, they're openly talking about wanting to break up Russia.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

I remember about seven years ago, back when George Soros could still talk.

[Jordan]

Aren't we openly talking?

[Alex Jones]

I haven't seen him give a speech in six months or so. He's like, but he could speak. Well, then he went on CNN for Rezakaria and bragged about how he helped with NATO overthrow the government that was not, you know, anti Russian 14 years ago and the rest of it. Now, their plan was to break up Russia, and that was the end game. And Russia knows that. So they're completely surrounded, basically now and watching NATO and the EU stage coups in. In countries where the people don't want to go to war with Russia, like Romania. So we are definitely the bad guys. I mean, the people running our government have been the bad guys. You know, Trump's in there trying to stop this now, but we have an alliance with Europe and they're trying to suck us into full war. So just today, it's come out that NATO plans to send in a hundred thousand, quote, peacekeepers. It's really a military operation. And then, chillingly, we have the vice president of the unelected EU Commission, it's a dictatorship, Kaja Kalis, saying Russian defeat is not a bad thing. Then we can break it up into smaller nations talking about Russia. So it's this. And she said this on television. That's how you try to go to war with people, I think. You know, I mean, this is just wild. So that's how they're trying to cut Trump off of the past. We'll talk about when we come back.

[Dan]

So we've talked about this a little bit, but Alex doesn't understand the basics of how the EU system works. The European Commission is a group of commissioners who are not directly elected, but are appointed by the members of the Council of the European Union, which is made up of representatives of the respective elected governments of member states. Currently, Ursula Van der Leyen is the president of the European Commission, and she has six executive vice presidents in the commission with her. One of them is former Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas, who was part of a panel at the Lenart Mary conference in May 2024. Where she was engaging in a conversation about the dynamics of Western support for Ukraine. The foreign minister of Ukraine says that if Russia wins, his country stops existing and then everyone else is going to write books about the lessons that they learned from it all. In addition to that, he's arguing that it's a disservice to Ukraine itself to view the conflict through the lens of Russia. Every possible thing the countries can do to aid Ukraine is seen as a potential provocation to Russia. And, and that's costing time and lives. A lot of this conversation is in the context of the world being afraid of how the rules based world is gonna look in the case that Russia wins. In response to all of this, Kalas brings up the idea that the west isn't supporting Ukraine enough, not only because of a fear of Russian escalation, but also because of a fear of what happens if Russia loses. She brings up the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 90s and how people were worried that that was going to be a bad thing and it turned out to be a positive. She's making the point that the current state of Russia might not be that different and it could break up into multiple more stable states. I'm not sure I fully agree with her perspective, but she wasn't making the point that Alex and the right wing media have claimed she was. And Alex is pretending this was something that she just said, not something from nine months ago. It's stupid. Yeah, it's very dumb.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He just saw a meme or some shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I, I get, I don't get the angle that Alex is bringing to it. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't understand what exactly the, the bringing her into this does for, like, we're pro Russia. Alex is pro Russia taking over. Right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Right. So then, so then what is the, what's the problem here?

[Dan]

He's not pro Europe and he doesn't want Russia to be broken up.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Which is not.

[Jordan]

Is that like making fun of her? Is that what he's doing? He's more like, look at how stupid this lady is for saying that she could even break up Russia. Russia.

[Dan]

I think the angle that he's trying to take with it is like this is a direct baiting Russia into a nuclear war. They're trying to provoke them through this conversation and he deprives all of the context of the conversation. Yeah. The fact that it was nine months ago where it happened, what the discussion was around this when she said it.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

It's just he's trying to make Europe and us all bad.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

We are the aggressors in the situation. In order to justify what he wants, which is Putin taking over these countries.

[Jordan]

I guess I just. I guess I just, I like wind up skipping over it because it's. It's been multiple instances of. Well, they've done the thing that's going to provoke the nuclear war and they did it and then we've still not. Still going.

[Dan]

Yeah. And that's a point that the foreign minister in Ukraine is making in that conversation from nine months ago, which is.

[Jordan]

Like, oh, we can't send them planes. We can't send them planes six months later. Well, we can send them planes.

[Dan]

Right. Or they do end up sending a plane or something like that, and it doesn't lead to the giant escalation that everyone fears Russia is going to do.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I, again, I'm not sure I fully agree with taking all threats lightly, but this guy's perspective is there's a fairness to it, there's a point to it, that all of this resistance to help based on fear has not been seen to be correct.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You know, like those threats have not been followed through on.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. Very much a Syrian red line, if you will. You know what I'm saying?

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. So, Alex, he's rated Trump's performance a few times.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's been probably too high.

[Dan]

200 out of 100.

[Jordan]

Yup.

[Dan]

20 out of 10.

[Jordan]

That's too many.

[Dan]

17 holes in 1 and 12 stroke hole on a golf course.

[Jordan]

Right. Which is still somehow not Sam Altman. Whatever.

[Dan]

So Alex gives another rating.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

It's just as good.

[Jordan]

Is it?

[Alex Jones]

We are now into day seven of the new historic administration, the 47th president of the United States from America, America, Donald John Trump. And if I had to give him a score between 1 and 100 for devastating lightning constitutional action, just dismantling the bureaucracy and the globalist demoralization, bankruptcy, de industrialization plan. I would have to give him about a 200. I mean, it is way quicker, more precision hitting on all cylinders. It's indescribable. Just. It's over 500 actions now and I'm going to hit hundreds of them today. I strongly doubt that how it's being done. I mean, I could take just one action. The border and national sovereignty and deporting people and how he's handling that and countries trying to bucket. And then just as I said with General Flynn and to Homan Flynn, talk to him and others, I said, you got to go after the Human trafficking first. And then you've got to bring news crews with, with your ICE representatives as the, as the host and show the child molesters and show the criminals at point blank range something they really never did before. And they've got Chris Hansen and Dr. Phil and I mean hundreds of them out there with them busting the pedophiles and the killers and the, you know, this guy drunk drove and killed a lady. I mean, I can't even keep track of that. And they're doing it perfectly. I mean, I'm not exaggerating. I, I've already seen a hundred plus videos in just the last 48 hours of all these ICE officers that are better than news anchors at night. And then you've got Dr. Phil and, and Chris Hansen and all these other people. I mean, and, and you've got Homan out there. I mean, and this guy's. I get up at 6:00am, he's live on TV. I go to bed at midnight, he's live on tv. I mean, he just. They are, they are bringing it baby.

[Dan]

Baby bringing.

[Jordan]

What? It, what is it? Uh.

[Alex Jones]

I don't know.

[Dan]

Okay, based on literally everything Alex has ever said before, you should expect him to view the use of celebrity cameos and federal agents creating media as horrifying state propaganda. I get that he agrees with the terrorizing and rounding up of immigrants, and he justifies that unjustifiable position by pretending that all the people getting caught up by ICE are pedophiles and hardened criminals. But he really shouldn't be this stupid. Even if he agrees with the message of all this, everything his career has been built on should lead him to be super suspicious of this kind of a federal government media blitz. His show is called Infowars, you dumb fuck. He's the most suspicious person in the world when he wants to be. Every mass shooting has to be a false flag until proven otherwise. Every movie and TV show is secret predictive programming that only he's smart enough to decode. But here you have what can only be described as the most brazen level of PR stunt type actions being made by a federal agency. And he has no concern that it might not be on the up and up. The fuck? So the Guardian reported on Dr. Phil's thing saying, quote, the DV personality, Dr. Phil joined the U.S. border czar Tom Holman in a choreographed immigration raid in Chicago. Choreographed, you say? Alex, do you have any thoughts about that? Do you have any thoughts about this?

[Jordan]

So it was all put together for the media.

[Dan]

I'm not sure but it definitely was reported as choreographed by the Guardian.

[Jordan]

Hmm. So everybody. It's literally a false flag.

[Dan]

Might be.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

So Chris Hansen has been shifting his shtick a little bit for a while, catering to the anti immigrant crowd, using his sting tactics to catch alleged migrant criminals. This isn't really a new thing that he's been doing, but the Trump administration is certainly making use of it in order to build their PR campaign.

[Jordan]

He's been doing what?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

To Catch a Predator guy now has a new show that's just like To Catch an Immigrant.

[Dan]

No, I don't.

[Jordan]

Or is he doing it freelance? Is he doing it freelance?

[Dan]

I don't. I don't know all of the dynamics, but I know that he's. His show did get canceled eventually or at some point.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And I know that he's been continuing to do Sting type stuff.

[Jordan]

No, you can't do that. That's.

[Dan]

Apparently you can.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right.

[Dan]

And I think that he's still doing a fair amount of like trying to catch perverts and Stu. But there has been a playing up of immigrants to cater to the Trump audience.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

So I don't know if he's doing like a full on show of like just catching immigrants or just catching people and then playing into like, oh, it's another immigrant.

[Jordan]

It's probably. Yeah, yeah. Great. Good stuff.

[Dan]

Whatever the case, Alex should be deeply worried about this. Not because of a disagreement with the ends, but because of a fundamental disagreement about the means being used to achieve them. Ice doing this level of media distracting should be a clear sign to him that they're up to something. But it's not.

[Jordan]

Nah.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Jordan]

Now, of all the things which is really funny is that this would be such a great time to compare it to a sci fi movie called Starship Troopers. Be a great time for it. Be perfect time for you to pull out a movie reference to compare said current thing happening with said movie. Be great time for it. And I know he's seen that movie.

[Dan]

He has.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he's probably read a lot of Heinlein.

[Jordan]

I bet he has. Probably not making that connection.

[Dan]

I will tell you that we get a Dune reference, but I'm not sure there's any Starship Troopers I like.

[Jordan]

I like the idea of just being like, proud of 500 actions. Like, he's already done over 500 actions. Doesn't that. Doesn't that beg you to keep score?

[Dan]

Well, also, like, it's been. This is a week.

[Jordan]

Right, Right.

[Dan]

It's literally impossible that he could have mindfully done the 500.

[Jordan]

100%.

[Dan]

Other people are feeding him things to sign off on and shit. He has no idea what he's doing.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. But, like, if you're a vote, like, this is what I don't understand about us as voting people. Like, if somebody says, oh, they've done 500 things, then shouldn't we all compare it to, like, the list of the five things most of us want taken care of? You've done 500. Why not do these five that all of us want? All of. All of us want these five things, and it's not involved in the 500 you've.

[Dan]

Mm. Well, those are hard.

[Jordan]

Fair point.

[Dan]

Yeah. And we got to get Cash Patel in before we get the JFK files unsealed.

[Jordan]

Fair point. Listen, you've made. You've. You've won me over.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't know. Elon had a reason why we didn't do those things that you wanted done, but I can't remember exactly. You have to ask.

[Jordan]

I bet it was great. Yeah, I bet it was great. I'll just trust you.

[Dan]

So there have been some protests, like, blocking traffic and shit, over immigration policy issues. Sure. And Alex touches on this briefly, and.

[Alex Jones]

That'S one issue I. I spent almost the whole show last night. Sunday nights, I do is only two hours. I spent an hour and 45 minutes on Trump's devastating actions on the border alone. And I have three giant, incredible stacks today. Oh, and the illegal aliens blocking roads and rioting and Dallas and screaming f America and waving their foreign flags and then lying.

[Dan]

So this is a very important little glimpse here. Alex says that illegal immigrants are blocking roads and protesting, but that's not really true. People of all sorts of immigration status are blocking roads and protesting Trump's actions, but Alex has branded them all as non citizens. He's doing this in order to preemptively justify violent or law enforcement action against protesters who disagree with Trump. He's villainized a particular community, in this case immigrants, and branded them all as illegal, hardened criminals who are a threat to the United States. Now, that demonization is free to be applied to anyone who protests on behalf of immigrant rights. Alex, 100% does not believe in freedom of speech in any sense. His understanding of free speech is just, I get to say what I want without consequences. And it literally doesn't go any further than that. And it doesn't even apply to everyone. Like, other people have consequences for their speech. It's just me.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

So shitty.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. I remember when this happened the last time. Whenever we. Just right after we had started the show and I got back from London, I landed in o' Hare on the night of the illegal or the immigrant lawyers protesting and all of them being handcuffed at the airport. You know, just like being in that situation again where it's like, what are we doing? We're handcuffing immigration lawyers for crime. Crime. Are they doing crimes? Is that what we're doing here?

[Dan]

According to a certain interpretation, perhaps.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe. Maybe that's not good.

[Dan]

One of the things that Trump, you know, you said there's five things we would like.

[Jordan]

Most people have a list of five things, and for most people, I would say the vast majority of people, it's very similar.

[Dan]

Is in your. Is your top five. Does it include getting rid of birthright citizenship?

[Jordan]

It would not be in my top five.

[Dan]

Me neither.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But it's cool for Alex, and he explains how it's cool with the founders.

[Jordan]

Nice.

[Alex Jones]

And then, of course, I've mentioned this on air, but I thought I'd actually give you the documents. Just a little microcosm. You see the corporate media going, well, you know, Trump, it's unconstitutional to deport someone who's natural born. Yeah. Even though their parents are illegal, if they're born there. You know, if your mom can get across the border and two minutes later, you know, have a baby in the back of an ambulance or, or in a cornfield. That's happened a lot in Texas. Then your child instantly is a citizen and you can stay and your whole family can come here and everything's paid for. I have the 14th amendment. I have all the precedent.

[Jordan]

I stole it.

[Alex Jones]

A lie. The 14th amendment were for newly freed slaves to obviously make their children citizens as well.

[Jordan]

Idiots. So stupid.

[Alex Jones]

And that's what it says. And I have the court rulings going back to the Civil War and six or seven after it, but they just say, oh, it's not true. Trump's out of control. I saw CNN this morning. We've got the clip saying, he's a fascist, he's a dictator, and it is 100% cut and dried. You go, well, then why have they been giving them citizenship? Because the State Department, not with the law, not even the regulation as a policy that was not even announced. And I got the record here. Big, big stack just on this. I have to do an hour on this. LBJ just changed the policy and said, if anybody.

[Jordan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

Anybody born here. Periods of citizen, so tens of thousands of rich Chinese can fly here each year alone.

[Jordan]

Is that what he said, stay in.

[Alex Jones]

A hotel two weeks. Go have the baby. Babies are citizen. They all have the welfare, and they even go back to China and then collect the welfare in many cases. Stay here.

[Jordan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

Trump's all out assault on democracy is frightening. And the headlines are everywhere. And they just hope the public's ignorant and don't understand that what he's doing is just executing the American system.

[Dan]

So you might notice that Alex says that he's got all this case law and evidence to support his claim that birthright citizenship isn't real. But then in that discussion, he gives zero specifics. There's, like, vague references to the Civil War and lbj, but there's nothing concrete. It's all just a bunch of wild gesturing that's supposed to convince you that he knows what he's talking about. And you'd be dumb if you want to ask him for clarifications on it. Yeah. Why would you even doubt he knows everything?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So in 1868, the Supreme Court heard the case of US versus Wong Kim Ark. Ark was a 21 year old who was born in San Francisco to Chinese national parents. He visited China and then was refused entry. When he tried to come back to the U.S. it was disputed whether or not he was a citizen. And the court ruled 6 to 2 that because he was born in the United States and his parents were not employed by the state of China, that he was automatically a citizen. This established the basis for birthright citizenship. It was the argument of the dissenting justices that the 14th Amendment was made to confer citizenship on freed people, but that was the extent of it. That's the argument that Alex is making here, which is it was litigated and lost in 1868 in the Supreme Court. Alex is just making failed legal arguments that have already been decided by the Supreme Court and saying that this is case law.

[Jordan]

I appreciate talking about. I appreciate that this is an interesting case for me, pun intended, because even if he had case law, I still wouldn't care. It should be here. You know, like, even if the Supreme Court case, which it very obviously could have gone either way, when that Supreme Court, like, it's an entirely random thing that happened, if it had happened during a different Supreme Court term, then we wouldn't have birthright citizenship today.

[Dan]

It's entirely possible.

[Jordan]

Yeah. But it's like, well, I don't care if there is a case law that supports that. We should. It should still be a thing.

[Dan]

I get what you're saying, you know, and I don't disagree with you. But you're. That argument is based on what should be right as opposed to the terms that Alex is setting, which is I have all this case law and just conveniently ignoring the Supreme Court decision. He's pretending that it was just like the State Department totally just wrote something down one day and now everyone's a citizen.

[Jordan]

I just, I just like the idea that by. You think by having the case law that influences whether or not birthright citizenship is real. You know what I mean?

[Dan]

Well, it can definitely impact whether it's real in a sense. Sure. It doesn't impact whether or not you believe it's right.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And that's fine. That's a disagreement people can have.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's just a strange, it's just a strange one to be so confident. Ha ha ha. See, the racist Supreme Court said it's okay for me to discriminate and then have then come to me with that being like, well, I guess you're right, sir, but I guess it's okay.

[Dan]

You know, I mean, I don't imagine that the Supreme Court in 1868 was like fully woke or anything. Well, I think ruled that if you're born here, you're a citizen.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

So anyway, Alex is off on a limb here with those two justices from 1868. Oh boy, I'm happy for him. So you got, you got like so much happening in the world.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

So much.

[Jordan]

They.

[Dan]

Alex's number one story has got to be something meaty.

[Jordan]

It has to be.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

There's so much going on in the world. It could just, we could just stay on Russia and Ukraine.

[Dan]

I'm sure we kind of do. Okay.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

And then I'm not even going to mention all the other stunningly insane, incredible things I've got here because I have to hit the number one story, the number one development, the number one crisis, the number one emergency that threatens not just us taking our country back, but threatens life on the surface of this planet.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

Now I have said many times, because it's escalating, that this is the worst developments yet in the three year escalation of the war in Ukraine because it was going on as a proxy war, shadow war, hybrid war, before that's admitted, and that NATO started it now almost 15 years ago. I mean, I can play the clips of Soros, played it many times saying the west did this. Hahaha. But I have a new clip of the vice President of the unelected EU Commission, another one of these globalist women. Oh, it's okay. If she wants World War 3. She's a cute little blonde like Vander Leyden. Well, her. Her vice president just went on international TV and said, yeah, yeah, we're gonna defeat Russia, we're gonna invade Russia, and we're gonna break it up in pieces. Now, this woman, I guarantee you to know how to load a revolver, much less a Glock. I guarantee you. Okay, understand about hypersonic missiles.

[Jordan]

Those are two different things.

[Alex Jones]

She doesn't know about technology. She doesn't know about drones. She doesn't know about chemical weapons. She doesn't understand any of this.

[Dan]

So there's so much shit happening in the world, and Alex's number one story is a clip he's pretending is recent, but he doesn't realize is nine months old. He clearly just saw someone post this on Twitter, and he's making up all the surrounding context on it to report to his audience, so it fits the narrative. These kinds of non stories are perfect for Alex because they're largely irrelevant, but he can sensationalize them enough to justify why he's not covering anything real. You can see how a lot of this, too, is just dripping in Alex's contempt for women. It's totally fine to have criticisms of Kallus, but the way that Alex is talking, that has nothing to do with her as a person. It's all attacking her based on her being a woman. I'm not sure that she knows much about guns, but I'm sure she understands a fair amount of shit about war, considering she was the prime Minister of Estonia and lived in the country in 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed. Like, this is ridiculous. There's so much misogyny that's just powering this.

[Jordan]

I mean, yeah, she doesn't know anything about loading a revolver. Okay, I guess. I guess you know something about that. So you can come at that with an, she doesn't know anything about chemical weapons. What the fuck do you know about chemical weapons?

[Alex Jones]

Everything.

[Jordan]

No, you do not.

[Dan]

Covid was a bioweapon. It was created in order to maybe be race specific, but maybe not.

[Jordan]

You know what? Yeah. Misogyny justified.

[Dan]

Yeah, totally. Like, it's just. It's so interesting because, like, I think that you can make a lot of fairly decent complaints about anyone who's a member of the. The EU Commission, the European Commission.

[Jordan]

If you want to bid any government anywhere for anything, you're probably right.

[Dan]

Yeah. And there is a way to do that. And just. It's so fascinating the way that Alex is. Complaints and criticisms. Just like, it's. I hate this woman.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I hate her. I hate the femininity. I resent that she's in a position of power.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Because it's. It's ultimately an expression of true laziness. Like, I know I could hate you for a good reason, sure. But that's hard. So I'm just gonna be a piece of shit.

[Dan]

It's like Alex screaming about Brian Stelter smiles, you know, it's like, go fuck yourself.

[Jordan]

Find it. Find a real reason.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. Well, there's. There's one possible reason, okay. And that's that everyone in the EU Commission, the European Commission, all right, they're all princelings.

[Jordan]

They're all princelings.

[Dan]

Yes. They're all royalty.

[Jordan]

Okay. I'm learning.

[Alex Jones]

And if you look at the arrogance of the EU Commission, I mean, they're all princelings and princesses. If you look at them, almost every one of them is in a direct royal family that stepped down in the last 20 to 50 years in different countries in Europe, but still owns it all and still has all the titles. They just act like, oh, we don't run anything anymore, like in Canada. Oh, Trudeau is going to be voted out by the Parliament. The Governor General, under the orders of King Charles, dissolves it and leaves Trudeau in. And I've got more examples of that here today. Denmark, Greenland, you heard, was independent in its own country. But then Trump said, well, I'm going to buy it. And now Denmark said, sorry, we still own it. You can't have it.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry.

[Alex Jones]

Trump looked at the contracts and he said, well, and Denmark sent him the full contract of the article right here and said, actually, it's still owned by the head of the global Royal Society, and that's King Charles, so you can't have it.

[Jordan]

Excuse me.

[Alex Jones]

Charles just put out his little directive show to you later that, yeah, I actually own Denmark.

[Jordan]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Dan]

This is.

[Jordan]

Tell me about this.

[Dan]

The contract.

[Jordan]

I want to know about the contract that now England also owns Denmark and through Denmark, owns Greenland.

[Dan]

Well, but it's not England, it's Dracula.

[Jordan]

Fair enough.

[Dan]

Yeah, fair enough. So this whole argument about Russia being the good party in the war for Alex, like, it hinges on the claim that Russia is not expansionist, whereas the globalists are. That's a huge part of his argument, which is wrong. But it also seems like a dumb argument for him to say that Trump should be able to buy a country given his concern about colonial expansion, but.

[Jordan]

Who gives a shit what you going to do?

[Dan]

So Alex says that all the EU commissioners are princelings. And princesses, but that's not true. There are 27 commissioners who are part of the current commission. And I'd be curious who Alex is actually talking about. I don't know who he's.

[Jordan]

I would be very curious to hear.

[Dan]

I would like to challenge that point and see what he says.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The only specific he's ever given about these royals is like, Herman von Rompe, who wasn't part of the European Commission. He's retired and he wasn't given the title of count until after his career had ended. Ironically, the closest I think Alex could come to this royalty claim is Kachakalas, who he's particularly mad about on this episode because of a nine month old clip that he just saw. She isn't royalty, but her father was the chief of the bank of Estonia, then Prime Minister, and then served in the European Commission for 10 years. It's not the same thing as nobility, necessarily, but she's a second generation European commissioner and I could see Alex taking issue with that. He could play around with that if he wants.

[Jordan]

That's nouveau riche.

[Dan]

Sure. But he could probably use that as like justification for this dumb shit he's saying.

[Jordan]

Fair enough.

[Dan]

And I think it wouldn't work. But I'm curious who he's talking about. Yeah, I have no idea what he's talking about. The fine print in the contract of who can buy Greenland, though it honestly just sounds really stupid and childish, but whatever.

[Jordan]

Like he understands that if we do buy Greenland, right. Then ostensibly it would eventually become a state, thereby making more citizens, which is what he's against.

[Dan]

Well, it would certainly impact representation and House seats.

[Jordan]

They would have to vote, you'd think. It's not like they'd become a protectorate or something.

[Dan]

Maybe they would.

[Jordan]

What?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

In what? In what manner are we sending ships to protect them from a potential English led invasion?

[Dan]

Why not?

[Jordan]

Fair enough. Yeah, fine.

[Dan]

Dracula is gonna come and try and take it back.

[Jordan]

I just don't think people are really thinking about what they're actually thinking about.

[Dan]

Yeah, I don't find this to be serious. No, all that serious.

[Jordan]

Very crazy.

[Dan]

So the Romanian elections are hot on Alex's mind.

[Jordan]

Still going or still not going.

[Dan]

Happening in May.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But Alex has a take.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

And they just staged a coup and canceled the election in Romania. So you have these unelected royals, a bunch of princesses now. They're like, we're modern. We don't just have old drunk kings like Von Ropey heading it for 20 years on TV constantly.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

And stuff like grabbing Women's breasts on television, throwing hatchets. Now we've got these arrogant princesses. You can pull them up in little photos. Family photos are wearing their damn crowns. So. Oh, the European court rejects Romanian far right presidential candidate. Election appeal. Always a candidate, because they never let him officially get certified. Oh, the EU is not a tyranny. Like Elon Musk said, it's not a threat to the world. It's just starting nuclear war. We're already in World War. We're in World War III. I said it three months ago.

[Dan]

And 15 years ago, seven years ago.

[Alex Jones]

Eight years ago, head of the British military, the Russians, they all went, yeah, we're in. It's World War iii. It's here. The Polish president. Yeah, we're in World War iii.

[Jordan]

Totes, bro.

[Alex Jones]

The only question is, will it go nuclear?

[Jordan]

No.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, Trump's dismantling him. The whole globalist system's collapsing. He just signed three more executive orders today banning central bank digital currencies. Already signed one that had a lot of the provisions in there. But these are specifics. And so what are they going to do? Well, they're going to start a giant war.

[Dan]

I certainly feel like I understand the specifics of that central bank digital currency.

[Jordan]

The specifics have been made clear. That's what's great about it.

[Dan]

I feel educated.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

So every time I've heard Alex discuss the issue of the Romanian elections, I've never heard him bring up that the election has been rescheduled for May. He just completely ignores that, I guess, probably because it would make this coup storyline a little harder for him to tell. The Romanian courts ruled to annul the results of the first round of the 2024 election, not the EU. The headline that Alex is reading is being intentionally misreported. What happened is that Kaylin Georgescu appealed the court's decision to the European Court of Human Rights, who rejected the appeal with a unanimous vote. He was requesting that the court provide an urgent injunction, which they only do when there's good reason to believe that the person making the request would face immediate and irreparable harm if they didn't step in. The court believed that this was not the case here, mostly because the rerun of the election's already been scheduled. Alex is reporting on this manipulatively because he wants the audience to think that the EU canceled the election and then denied Georgescu's appeal of that decision. In the real world, the Romanian court acted in terms of the election and Georgescu's request for a severe Reaction from the European Court of Human Rights was denied because the thing they probably would do to remedy this situation was already being done.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So I feel educated. Once again. Alex is really laying it all out.

[Jordan]

I do get it from Alex's point of view, though, to not complicate things like that, because it is very. I would even go so far as to say there's something very un American about scheduling a redo. Like a rational group of people, like, listen, buddy, doesn't matter if they stole it. He's the president now. Move on. It's eight years later. You know, that's just America. That's how we do it. Supreme Court says Florida goes for Bush. Done. Move on, everybody keep going. Roll, roll. Like that kind of thing. So I imagine it would be hard to still maintain any kind of narrative that isn't just inevitably deflating, you know, like, if we had the election and it was just a tie and we had to do another election, everybody would fucking lose their shit. And just like, fuck this, you know, Americans can't handle that shit.

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

Romanians are apparently responsible enough to be able to do it. So I wish them all the best.

[Dan]

And that's why Dracula owns Greenland. It makes sense, because Transylvania is in Romania. And see, this is education.

[Jordan]

Finally, the details have been made clear.

[Dan]

I just think that Alex is. I mean, it's very convenient the way he ignores shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So one of my favorite things, as longtime listeners will know, is Alex using fake Thomas Jefferson quotes.

[Jordan]

Always, always great.

[Dan]

And here.

[Jordan]

So much shit.

[Dan]

Well, but here is my responsibility, okay? And that is Alex uses a fairly close Thomas Jefferson quote.

[Jordan]

All right?

[Dan]

So I can't just ignore that when he does it.

[Jordan]

Fair enough.

[Alex Jones]

I'd love to get up here and give you all the great news and all the good things happening, and I will, and go through the facts and show you the documents when I make a claim on things like birthright citizenship not being what you think it is, what you've been told it is, and so many other great little factoids. Because a knowledgeable, informed public is what it takes to have a free, open society. Is Thomas Jefferson said, educate the people on their rights, freedoms and history and tyranny and tyrants will fade like fog at dawn. To paraphrase him, basically the quote, I think I messed up part of it. He said, phantom is at dawn, but he means bog. The phantoms of fogs.

[Jordan]

Are you punching up tj?

[Alex Jones]

You know, fog disappears when the sun comes out. That's an informed public. Not informed on dei. Not informed how there's no X and Y chromosomes. Not informed about how great communism works. Not misinformed, not dumbed down, but really knowing how things work. Because if you knew history and people ask why I know so much, it's fascinating. You just want to learn more and more. Like there's a bunch of crazy thousand year old dynasty from Transylvania running the EU and the UK and Canada and Australia and New Zealand and sounds hard to believe they've infiltrated our government. They want World War III and they're a bunch of pedophile devil worshipers.

[Dan]

They could turn into bats.

[Alex Jones]

They got a bunch of crazy princesses prancing around talking about how they're going to arrest Elon Musk for his speech and how they're canceling elections and they're going to. And how they're going to break up Russia and giggling about it on tv. You think you, oh, you think the Russians watch that and don't go, yeah, okay, let's get ready boys. And you notice Putin in his speeches says, we've been at war for a thousand years with the Anglo Americans and you will never defeat us.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

When I say American listeners, I see it on axle go, oh, you don't like white people. It has nothing to do with white people. The Russians are white too.

[Dan]

Interesting that that's the criticism that you seem the need, feel the need to respond to.

[Jordan]

Fucking hell.

[Dan]

So it's actually pretty close there to a Jefferson quote.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

In 1816 he said, quote, enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day. Alex is a little bit off, but it's close enough as far as I'm concerned. That understanding of history is a crazy fantasy, though. I guess learning would be a lot more fun if you just allowed everything that you learned to be filtered into a sci fi action movie that you're pretending to live in and be the protagonist of. One of the difficulties about real education and learning is that it's challenging. And by creating this fantasy world overlay, Alex has removed the possibility of challenge from his learning process. This is appealing because it makes taking in new information always feel good. For example, evidence that Trump is doing unconstitutional things should make Alex reflect and question whether he was wrong to support Trump to begin with. But Alex's removed challenge from his life. Trump and Elon are unquestionably good because they're fighting the sci fi Christian devil that he imagines he's fighting himself. So instead of being challenged by their actions, Alex, rationalizes They're doing the things that look fundamentally against my worldview, which is just proof of how diabolical the enemy is. These guys have to break the system in order to uphold it, which is what they're being forced to do by the devil. This is how Alex has engaged with learning. And when you do this, you aren't actually learning anything. You're expanding what trivia you have in your head. Maybe. But you don't ever have to process what you're taking in. It's a path that looks like a shortcut, but it's actually a shortcut to nowhere. Because in the end, this is the kind of shit that you think is real. It's just Dracula.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Fun.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's probably more fun than learning.

[Jordan]

Is undeniably more attractive at this point in time, from where I'm sitting, like, just thinking about all the stuff that I've learned and then the stuff that Alex has learned. The stuff that he's learned seems to make him a lot happier than the stuff that I've learned about America. So maybe it's on me. Maybe I've just been learning the wrong stuff.

[Dan]

Clearly.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I think that's probably what's going on.

[Dan]

Have you tried reading sci fi?

[Jordan]

I have.

[Dan]

Pretending it's real.

[Jordan]

I have. Pretending it's real. You're right. It's the second step.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Everywhere is just one big homogenous place in constant warfare with another planet. That is also a homogenous place. That makes a lot more sense.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So, you know, the Russians, they call us the Anglo American.

[Jordan]

Why do they do that?

[Dan]

Because Dune.

[Jordan]

That makes sense.

[Alex Jones]

And so the Russians aren't idiots. They address it just like in the movie Dune. And Frank Herbert based that on royal families and European history. Said that. Interviews. We have different houses battling each other. House Harkonne and how she trade. He's feuding. Well, that's literally how the Russians go. We address the Anglo Americans because it was the Anglo Saxons. Now it's the Anglo Americans because we're part of the empire now.

[Jordan]

Thanks for explaining.

[Alex Jones]

You have been trying to defeat us for a thousand years. You will not. And we have nuclear weapons.

[Jordan]

Stop.

[Alex Jones]

And the Anglo Americans are encircling Russia right now. And then they got this witch queen on television saying, ha, ha ha. We're gonna not just defeat Russia and Ukraine, we're gonna break up Russia. Would you put up with that as an American?

[Dan]

So I feel like this is a really good example of how most of Alex's content relies on him finding something on Twitter and then just getting ma. The context is unimportant. The age of the clip is unimportant. It's just critical that he be able to use the thing he saw on social media as a launching pad to get in some dumb rants about how sci fi movies are real. And I think I wouldn't be, like, too surprised if Putin were talking about wanting the US to break up into pieces. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[Jordan]

I mean, frankly, I'm surprised we're not talking about wanting to break America up into pieces.

[Dan]

I feel like Alex and his guests have discussed that idea for the last 30 years, like, wanting states to secede.

[Jordan]

Kind of a big deal for them.

[Dan]

Kind of moral high ground. Does he think he's claiming here? This is ridiculous.

[Jordan]

No idea.

[Dan]

He talks about, I guess. You know what? Here's the issue.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Going back in the day, Alex had such a complicated relationship with the Texas independence movement.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Because the people were annoying.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. And he. But he was also white.

[Dan]

He.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He believed that Texas is its own country. Right. It has the right to secede.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But he hated the people who were in that.

[Jordan]

They. They're really annoying.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

In his defense. They are really.

[Dan]

I think they just didn't like him.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, in their defense, Alex is a piece of shit.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I think everybody's behaving appropriately in this situation. I think everybody has got a good point of view, a good head on their shoulders. You shouldn't like those people. You shouldn't like Alex. Everybody's going. Everybody's doing great.

[Dan]

So the top story.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is that Alex found this clip of one of the vice presidents of the European Commission.

[Jordan]

Right. That's the top story.

[Dan]

Top story.

[Jordan]

Nine months ago.

[Dan]

Bullshit.

[Jordan]

It's like. It's like, we got to update the Boy who Cried Wolf, because that's for people who don't have fucking technology, you idiots. Of course the Boy who Cried Wolf can get. Does that shit, and everybody knows it because they can't see a wolf. Now we're in 2025.

[Dan]

The. The boy who Fake Cried about memes.

[Jordan]

Took a picture of a wolf from a thousand yards away and said, oh, it's right here, the Boy who Cried. There's a TikTok of the wolf. The crap. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's all bullshit, man.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

But you can see the wolf, and that's the trick.

[Dan]

So I. When I said that's bullshit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's not quite what I meant.

[Jordan]

Sorry.

[Dan]

I meant that there's actually a different top story.

[Jordan]

Okay, fair enough.

[Dan]

And it's Elon tweeting something.

[Jordan]

God damn it.

[Dan]

It's not even.

[Jordan]

There's a picture of the wolf.

[Dan]

Elon can tweet all kinds of crazy dumb shit about what his fake government efficiency office is doing.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And all that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's not even this.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

The top story is. Oh, my God. You're never gonna believe this.

[Jordan]

I'm not. I'm probably not.

[Alex Jones]

Third hour we're having former Wall street journal journalist and top journalist on secret space program and more to talk about Elon discovering today or late last night, it trended top of x that Werner von Braun, the greatest rocket scientist in history, the progenitor of the u. S. Space program, and of course, former top head of Hitler's program, the inventor of the space shuttle. All of it. Wrote a book about Mars colonization with the man that launched the Mars colonization being named Elon musk many years before Elon Musk was born.

[Jordan]

I hate all of.

[Alex Jones]

Elon's pretty blown away by that. I'm surprised he didn't know about that. We've covered it for many years. Yeah.

[Dan]

So Werner von Braun wrote a book called project Mars, a technical tale. In the book, we do go to Mars, but the person who got us there is not named Elon. The connection is that there's a leader of the government that's on Mars that's called the Elon.

[Jordan]

Right, Gotcha.

[Dan]

Elon's dad, Errol Musk, was a real piece of shit and probably a Nazi. In a 2022 interview, he literally said that he named his son Elon because he's read von Braun's book and he named him after the title of the Mars leader.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

This isn't prophecy. And anyone pretending there's a meaning to this past. Elon's dad naming him after a character in a Nazi book is a fraud and a dipshit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But this is what Alex is really excited about. Elon Musk has discovered that Wernher von Braun wrote this book before he was born that has this character in it.

[Jordan]

Yep. Wow. Yeah.

[Dan]

We're getting wacky Wednesday up in this bitch.

[Jordan]

I've. I've always wondered because I, you know, I'm. I'm a person who's. Who's passingly aware of movies from the past. And that's where I also know about history. I wondered about, like, you know, you're. You're with one of the boy kings or you're with one of the weird emperors of Rome. Are you with any one of those people. And you're walking around with them and you're listening to them to say all this shit, all this absolute nonsense. But you are also surrounded by like gigantic pots that you could smash over their head. And you just keep walking. You know, like when, when I stop and think about that, I'm like, there are people around Elon right now who are just like, let's let this keep going. Amazing.

[Dan]

It is shocking. It's shocking on some level. What I find more shocking is the level of detachment that Alex has while, like forcing godhood upon Musk.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He has no reason to do this. That we can tell all the reasons.

[Jordan]

In the world to not do it.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

It is like some sort of weird addictive force. It's like a magnetism pulling him against all wills.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's really, really counter to pretty much everything his career is supposed to be built on. And it's so embarrassing. But there's another level of how embarrassing this is, which is like if you hear that Werner von Braun wrote a book and there's a character, the Elon, in it. And then Elon Musk is a rocket guy. Like, you ask yourself, what's the explanation for this?

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Is there a simple explanation for this?

[Jordan]

God.

[Dan]

And when there's not a simple explanation for it, you start looking for complicated ones. Like God.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If there's a simple explanation like Musk's dad read this book and named his son after this.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Then I think the pretending that there's a more complicated explanation is really embarrassing.

[Jordan]

You're complicating things by adding that someone read a book. Very complicated.

[Dan]

Simple for Alex.

[Jordan]

God did it.

[Dan]

Okay. I just, I find this need to make a story out of something that's very simple and explainable.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So pathetic.

[Jordan]

I think I'm. I think this is going to be part of my briefcase that is gathering evidence for Alex having made a literal deal with the devil who is convinced him that it is God.

[Dan]

Because might as well.

[Jordan]

This makes. It makes sense. Like you would have to abase yourself in the most worst possible way in order to appease the devil. This seems right.

[Dan]

It's really sad.

[Jordan]

It's bad.

[Dan]

So, Werner von Braun.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You wrote this book.

[Jordan]

Nazi.

[Alex Jones]

Wow.

[Jordan]

But also, I'm not sure why I need any. But also. But okay, psychic.

[Alex Jones]

I've got some next level information for you on Werner von Braun. And because that's not just a coincidence. I mean, it's not just some science fiction writer that wrote a science fiction book and then titled it the way he did Project Mars. A technical manual. And then now who is in charge globally just by his actions and sheer will? Elon Musk.

[Dan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

Well, it turns out I happen to know a little bit about Werner von Braun. And Vernon Von Braun was a extremely psychic individual. Remote viewer.

[Dan]

Oh, wow. So if. If you had a simple explanation, like Musk's dad read that book.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Then this seems stupid. This seems really stupid.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan]

It does feel like you are putting a hat on top of a hat on top of a very large cowboy hat.

[Dan]

Yeah. You're. You're inventing psychicness in order to explain something that is very easily explainable.

[Jordan]

Super. Already explained. Yep. Didn't need to add psychic powers on top of that.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Dan]

But it's fun.

[Jordan]

How did the milk go? Bad. You left it outside of the refrigerator. Ah. But also a wizard. Didn't need it. Already figured it out. Mystery already solved.

[Dan]

But it's more fun if there's a wizard.

[Jordan]

You're not wrong.

[Dan]

What if there's two wizards?

[Jordan]

Now we're talking.

[Dan]

So Werner von Braun.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Wizard. Alex's grandpa. Also a psych.

[Jordan]

Oh, shit.

[Alex Jones]

How do they come up with all these concepts nobody else could? Why were the Germans decades ahead of everybody else? Well, you're going to get next level information, third hour. And I'm going to talk about some stuff my grandfather told me that I've never revealed before. Because when you're a little kid told this stuff, it just didn't make sense at the time. And of course, it all makes sense now because Vernon Von Braun's mother was a super psychic and my grandfather's mother was one. And I will reveal the information in the third hour. Truth is stranger than fiction. Of course. My grandfather was extremely psychic.

[Jordan]

Extremely psychic. This is just a little psych.

[Alex Jones]

So I'll. I'll cover it. Third hour. Just. You'll definitely want to tune in. Okay. But I literally, this morning was thinking about all this, and I already knew this, but it just. I just. It's not that it's even discrediting to talk about it. It's just like. Really? Really. Because it's so fantastical.

[Jordan]

Shut up.

[Alex Jones]

But I guess it all is.

[Dan]

What are you talking about?

[Jordan]

Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

It is. It is. Probably. There's a. There's got to be a part of his rational brain that recognizes how embarrassing it is.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

For him to just be like, I'm psychic.

[Jordan]

Elderly. Bananas. Yeah. Utterly bananas.

[Dan]

I think that that's what he's wrestling with.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Just the awareness of another reality.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That he's pretending doesn't exist.

[Jordan]

I've always thought that, that, that instinct should be the one that people are far more focused on than whether or not someone is or is not a psychic. You know, like, we can have a conversation about psychic powers if you like. I don't want to, but that's fine. If you like to. Yeah, that's fine. Right. But what we should first have a conversation about is somebody who's like, I'll tell you in the third hour about psychic powers.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's more important to me than the whether or not there are psychic powers. Do you understand? You understand what I'm saying?

[Dan]

Hear me out on this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know why he's doing that?

[Jordan]

Why?

[Dan]

It's because he could see the future into the third hour where he knew that that was when he was going to talk about this.

[Jordan]

See, it's. It's like. It's like whatever you want. What people watch the shows where it's like, ah, I'm talking to your dead mom. And we'll do more after the break. Now you can't do. You can't do it after the break. After the break. You're lying. You're lying because you know the break is happening.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think that believing in magic or magical type stuff sure is not a problem for me. Sure. As a. Like a person, like, if you believed in magic stuff, sure. I don't think I do, but I don't really have any problem.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If you're a pain in the ass, that's the problem.

[Jordan]

That's a problem.

[Dan]

And you use your magic stuff to be a pain in the ass, that's the problem. And that's what Alex is doing.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I don't care if you go to the church or something, but if you go to church and you hear a guy being like, well, I'll tell you more after you pay me. That's where you should be. Where you should be thinking. You should be thinking.

[Dan]

So I got the sense that Alex's coverage of some of these other things, like, you know, the callous, the European Commission person, maybe a little superficial.

[Jordan]

Important thing. No, very important things.

[Dan]

And he kind of confirms that here.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

And then we've got the vice president of the unelected eu. Russia's defeat is not a bad thing. Then we can break it up into smaller nations. Vice President of the eu, Kaja Kalas. I'm truly lost for words. They don't even hide anymore.

[Dan]

The commenter said he's just reading a tweet. He's just Reading. Someone posted this.

[Jordan]

They don't even hide it anymore.

[Dan]

Right.

[Jordan]

One of those memes.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

He's. He's not covering this conference that she spoke at. He's not covering any. He's. He just has a printout of a fucking tweet. That's it.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

So anyway, I want to know about this psychic shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Why are we even here?

[Dan]

Exactly.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So he said that he was gonna have like a, you know, this. This secret space program journalist.

[Jordan]

Totally.

[Dan]

He didn't say who.

[Jordan]

That seems very suspicious.

[Dan]

Well, I think it's because he thought he did.

[Jordan]

Oh, but he doesn't.

[Dan]

No, because the person's name is Dark Journalist.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

And so he said journalist, and I think he tricked himself into thinking he'd already.

[Jordan]

That it was a real.

[Dan]

Yeah, he'd already said dark. That part.

[Jordan]

Gotcha.

[Dan]

So we get to that part of the episode where the dark journalist is coming in.

[Jordan]

Really don't like that, but that's fine.

[Dan]

I don't really care.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right. The dark journalist. Okay.

[Dan]

At this point, I want supervillain type stuff.

[Jordan]

Fair enough.

[Dan]

So, like the idea that there's a guy who's like, I'm the dark journalist.

[Jordan]

No, no, you're right. If he changed his name to Commander Orange, I'd be like, yeah, you know what? That's better. Leave it to it. Yeah, that's better. You're right. Good point.

[Dan]

Unfortunately, his Skype isn't working.

[Jordan]

Ah, shit.

[Dan]

And so Alex has to vamp a little.

[Alex Jones]

All right. I've had Daniel List on a dark journalist many times, and he was sending us stuff and about to come on, and everything went dark. Speaking of dark journalist, about 25 minutes ago. So I don't know if he had an accident, an emergency, something like that. We hope he's fine. I. I wanted to really get into this Elon Musk information, because Elon at least acted like today on this trend to top of X, that he never heard that Werner von Braun, the father of modern space exploration and the founder of NASA for JFK, wrote a book, his only fiction book, in 1953, where the head of the first Martian human colony is named Elon. And then Elon becomes, you know, the new king of space exploration and the guy that plans to build the Martian colony. And you see him really doing everything he needs to do to get it done. More space exploration, more developments in 10 years than all of it previous. What's really going on there? Well, I've got a good idea. And it didn't click Till early this morning already. I already had a lot of the pieces, but I just felt like I should talk about this at that point. And some of the things my grandfather told me.

[Dan]

This is so embarrassing. If you know that Elon's dad read Von Braun's book, which Elon's dad has said publicly that he had, and that he named Elon after the title of the leader of the Mars colony. Sure, I get that. If his dad hadn't spoken publicly about this, you could have a little fun and pretend that Von Braun was a psychic and all that.

[Jordan]

Coincidences are crazy.

[Dan]

But because his dad's been clear about this, Alex looks like a total idiot who doesn't understand cause and effect relationships.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, he seems so dumb.

[Jordan]

If you wanted to have a conversation about nominative determinism, which would be an interesting conversation, genuinely about how the pressures of being named Elon, the position that he was born in, the money that he'd already had, all of these things. Maybe, maybe just the, like, psychopathy that is born whenever you're. You're sentenced to believing that you should rule the world.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

And this touches on your experience, too. Like, you know. You know exactly. Like, why? Like the idea that someone would name you something strategically.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It'll fuck you up and you won't even know.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

Do you believe for a second that Elon's dad or parents didn't tell him about why did I get the name that I got? That's something that parents discuss.

[Jordan]

Totally.

[Dan]

I know that I was named because of the Bible. I know I was named Daniel after the character in the Bible. Sure. You know, you were named in order to fulfill a prophecy.

[Jordan]

I was named to do many things to many people across time.

[Dan]

I would say that almost everybody has had a conversation with their parents about why did you choose the name that you chose?

[Jordan]

Yeah. And for most people, it's a very normal conversation. Yeah, we think Timothy's a very pretty name.

[Alex Jones]

Great.

[Dan]

And Elon almost certainly had a conversation about, I named you after the king of the space colony.

[Jordan]

It wasn't because we thought Elon was a pretty name. It's because your dad wanted to fuck you up from the moment you drew breath.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And so maybe he's had some issues around that and has led him to want to go to Mars and fulfill his dad's Nazi book that he read when he was a kid.

[Jordan]

We. Okay, so here's. Here's the thing we do. All right. This is. This is an important thing that we got to do to plan Ahead. All right, so we got Nazis now. We're going to have a post Nazi period. We need to get, like, a legion of therapists to get on to the children of current Nazis and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know they fucked you up. I totally get it. You know, that way we cut off.

[Dan]

The next generation of Nazis therapists and English professors. Yeah, because people need better reading comprehension therapists.

[Jordan]

English professors and history professors, all, an army of them descend upon the children of Nazis.

[Dan]

I honestly think that. I don't know a good at least 30% of the ability of this shit to, like, latch on to people has to do with poor reading comprehension and poor understanding of how to understand history. Yeah, like, those two. Like, we consider it all, like, kind of soft humanities and. Yeah, like that eroding is having serious consequences.

[Jordan]

No, no, no, no. There's absolutely no way you can look at the intense focus on STEM education and the absolute not giving a shitness about the arts and then extrapolate where we are now from that.

[Dan]

You need a balance.

[Jordan]

That'd be crazy.

[Dan]

So look.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Von Braun, psychic, psychic. Alex's grandpa. Psychic, psychic.

[Jordan]

Extremely. No.

[Dan]

Well, maybe.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

His grandpa's mom was a super psychic.

[Jordan]

She was a super psychic.

[Dan]

But Alex's grandpa was just a psychic.

[Jordan]

Okay?

[Dan]

And he is the spitting image of that guy.

[Jordan]

Oh. So he's trying to say that he's.

[Alex Jones]

A psychiatrist, but I just felt like I should talk about this at that point. And some of the things my grandfather told me when I was young.

[Jordan]

I ate a baby once.

[Alex Jones]

I remember being, like five years old him. That's when he's really telling me stuff. And I'd go stay with him, you know, a week in the summer, and we come down from Dallas and see him two or three times in Austin a year. They come see us a couple times a year. And I'd be like, what's Cranny talking about? My mom's like, well, he's just very eccentric. Your grandfather.

[Jordan]

I smoked hash in Morocco.

[Alex Jones]

I wish. He died 20 years ago. Or did I talk to C.W. today? C.W. hammond. So smart. And I'm a spitting image. That's true. My mom always. She's especially not a ball. She sees me, she goes, God, it's like my father. This is crazy.

[Dan]

It seems like Alex's mom is possibly trying to be polite about how her dad was insane. And Alex exhibits a lot of the same traits, like delusions of grandeur and believing himself to have superpowers. Sure. She says he was eccentric. And you're a spitting image of him. I have no doubt that his mom is nuts and an awful person, but she's at least smart enough not to be a public figure associated with Alex. So I have to give her some rationality points based on that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That decision is a strong decision that his parents have made.

[Jordan]

Yeah. One that they could have. Because we know. We know now, having seen many other scenarios like this, they chose deliberately not to try and become people on the Internet. Well.

[Dan]

And we've heard explicitly from Alex that he's tried to get his dad on the show a number of times and his dad refuses. Yeah, like they don't want any part.

[Jordan]

I don't need any of that shit. No, we have a real life.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Where I'm an actual regular ass retired dentist.

[Dan]

We want to profit off this.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Dan]

We want to not. Not be having our house. Yeah. Come on, man. So Alex is a. Is a psychic like his grandpapa.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And he only says accurate things.

[Jordan]

That doesn't sound accurate.

[Dan]

No, not at all.

[Alex Jones]

I only say things that I think are accurate.

[Jordan]

Oh.

[Alex Jones]

And 98 of what we cover is documents things going on and different world events. And then I take my knowledge and guest knowledge and try to approximate the parts we don't know. But most of the time, we've got. Got the vast majority of something Understood. And then we kind of puzzle it out on this. I already had these ideas and never set them on air. And I followed Daniel List stuff for years. You know, he's been even top Wall street journal writer on UAVs, UFOs for years.

[Dan]

Dark journalist.

[Alex Jones]

And then he started saying things a few months ago on the show about Werner von Braun that I'd read before but forgotten. And he wasn't just an engineer. He. He was clearly. His mother was extremely psychic. That's on record. And the word was he was a.

[Jordan]

Remote viewer whose record.

[Alex Jones]

And then I was told a lot of other information that when I brought it back up and I wasn't told, don't talk about this. But when I brought it back up on air, I know she's listening every day. She didn't go there. So I think just to be polite, I won't even really go into it, but I mentioned a little bit of a first hour as a prelude. So, I mean, I could just say it's my opinion that Stanley Kubrick was a remote viewer. Just leave it at that. But what. What I'm getting at here is I personally, because I'm not an esoteric guy, that's not what I do on air. I'm not a. I'm not a Bigfoot Chupacabra guy. Except when it's all in the real history and when I have experienced things that I've talked about on air and told you. And then it happens because I have dreams about it and premonitions. And now I realize all the time it's like outside of me telling me stuff and I just have to share this with people.

[Dan]

Fuck you with this I'm not an esoteric guy kind of nonsense. He got attacked by a poltergeist and talks about Tucker being attacked by demons. That's so much different than a Chupacabra. The only reason anyone gives a single shit about Alex is because he's able to entertain Joe Rogan by pretending to know stuff about aliens and demons. Without that he'd have no place in the market. So he can calm down with shitting on bigfoot people. You're not above this. Fuck off.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I just. I don't.

[Dan]

Tells me what time it is in the middle of the night.

[Jordan]

I don't understand why he's got this self image either. Like, shouldn't he. He's the person who's supposed to believe that I can get details wrong. I can be inaccurate. But I'm always telling you the truth. You know, that kind of thing. You know, like I'm not hampered by the. The fact that. But I have to say the accurate things. You know, I don't get the. The complete disregard for like. I only tell you things that I know are true 98% of the time because I'm psychic. But also this thing that I know is true. I am psychic. So you can trust me that I do know this is true. I'm not gonna say it's true.

[Dan]

I'm not an esoteric guy.

[Jordan]

I'm not an esoteric guy. I'm not one of those guys who's gonna try and convince you of something.

[Dan]

I'm a policy wonk. I'm about the books.

[Jordan]

I'm just.

[Dan]

I read stuff and I go off globalist documents.

[Jordan]

I am a psychic.

[Dan]

I predicted 911 in a dream.

[Jordan]

Pre much?

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

All right, man. Yeah, cool your jets.

[Jordan]

Accuracy is not supposed to be your brand.

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

So Alex is going to give the floor to the dark journalist. Cuz he's arrived.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

And he says something that is just like. What the.

[Alex Jones]

I don't want to interrupt him. I'm hungry and I'm just going to. And we haven't talked. He just agreed to come on to my producer. I'm just gonna, for a few minutes, get his opening shot on the big news that Elon responded to overnight today that trended top of X with hundreds of millions of people looking at it, dealing with this Project Mars, a technical tale by Dr. Werner von Braun, who just wrote this fiction book in 53 about the head of the Mars project base being named Elon. And then the guy that only got a rival, Werner Von Braun, and really surpassing now obviously, is Elon Musk.

[Jordan]

And then don't.

[Alex Jones]

Obviously, if we are successful in this Project Mars, we don't nuke ourselves first. We will be successful. He will be the founder of the Type 1 civilization project, which I've said for decades is central in my worldview of humanity. Not just surviving, but expanding.

[Dan]

This sounds like children talking about their favorite show. Elon's dad read a Nazi book. You. The whole premise of this is flawed. And the reason that the information is being presented like this is because Alex wants it to be seen by predestined and like the will of God that Elon will be the founder and ruler of our space civilization. It has to be mystical or esoteric in nature because it's a lunatic idea that just illustrates what a bootlicker Alex has become. I often say that the things Alex is doing are embarrassing, but this is a new level for me. It's so easily explained by available information. But in order to play fun fantasy games about his preferred billionaire ruler, Alex is pretending that there's a cosmic prophecy that bears discussion because Elon tweeted some dumb shit. Yeah, like I don't know what Alex couldn't. Like, this is such a toss over the plate.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is an underhanded toss that he could knock the fuck out of the park. You have Elon Musk thinking that he should be the. The founder of a new space civilization. And he also seems really hell bent on impregnating as many people as possible.

[Jordan]

Really?

[Dan]

Possibly. You would think he's gonna go populate Mars with just his offspring.

[Jordan]

Sounds right.

[Dan]

And then all civilization will just be his genetics.

[Jordan]

It does sound like him.

[Dan]

It sounds like this is such a. Like, slam this out of the park, Alex. Just take a swing at it. No, instead he's. He's just being like, this guy's great psychics predicted that he would come and rise.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I think. I think this is definitely one where it's like, this is a lesson that everybody in the media has to learn and learn as fast as humanly possible. Which would be possible if they could learn. Is that like Elon Musk didn't do shit. You know, like, even when you're, even when you're talking about, like, the best way to think about Elon Musk is when he's playing a video game. He's playing someone else's hundreds of hours of work.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know, like, he didn't do shit. He didn't do shit.

[Dan]

He's also not playing that video game. Someone else is.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Dan]

Playing his character to build it up. He's the best in the world.

[Jordan]

That's what I'm saying. It's like he didn't make a rocket. He didn't program fuck all. He didn't do any of this shit. Right. But it's like, because he's the, the guy in charge, they just attribute it to him because technically it's accurate to say that he was, you know, all of this shit. And it's got to be like, like Elon Musk, the CEO of your company, didn't do fuck all. It was that guy who somehow spent two hours along with these other 15 people. You know, it's gotta be this. 30 people made this rocket happen, right?

[Dan]

Miraculously, he hasn't fucked up or he didn't fuck up severely enough to not get to the point where now it doesn't matter how severely he fucks up anymore.

[Jordan]

Brilliant people worked around his waste of existence to make something in spite of him.

[Dan]

Yeah. There were enough people around him to cover the holes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And until it got to the point where now he can just do whatever he fucking wants and there's like no consequences.

[Jordan]

And the media was gullible enough and stupid enough to enable him and then fucking build him up. Yep, it is. If you are a journalist who's lost your job because of Elon Musk, it's really the whole media's fault.

[Dan]

I mean, it is a systemic problem.

[Jordan]

It's all of us.

[Dan]

But what if you're a dark journalist?

[Jordan]

Then you've. You've always got a job in the dark. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

So. But one of the things that's important if you are a dark journalist is you're going to be listening to a lot of people tell you about their psychicness.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And so he's got to listen to Alex talk about his grandpa for a bit.

[Jordan]

God.

[Alex Jones]

As I got about 5am and I was reading all this and it just hit me. I was literally brushing my teeth. We'll just go to break. Go back to the guest and I'll shut up then. But I don't want to cut him off. What? My grandfather would sit around the kitchen table and I would visit, you know, them and stay with them here in Austin. We were in Dallas then. And the things he would talk about.

[Jordan]

And.

[Alex Jones]

His mother and the other things and, and, and, and then him telling me stuff particular little. But later he would just say, I'm not going to tell you because it could affect things, but, oh, my God. Do you have any idea what you're going to do? Do you have any idea what's going to happen with you? I mean, I wasn't planning to be political or any of this. When I'm like 10 years old, 5 years old, 15, 20, by the time I was about 18, he would just go, oh. He was like, oh, when I come over, oh, I love you so much. Oh, you're so good. God loves you so much. Oh, oh. And he'd be like, he'd get out all these articles and documents and diagrams about the space stations, you know, the centrifugal space stations and, and, and, and all this stuff about Mars colonies and, you know, the plans and humanity and all this stuff, and it was just wild. But he was extremely psychic and he was seeing like sonar into the future. Radar bouncing off big events in the future is the best way I understand it, man.

[Dan]

You do not have to be psychic to know that. Alex was very aware early in his career that if he said, my grandpa showed me Mars documents and psychically, like, he prophesied that I would be important in terms of getting us to a Mars base, his career would not have gone like this. This is, this is. We're in. Smoke him if you got him kind of territory where you can just say this kind of dumb shit and everybody's like, oh, yep, fine.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Whoever's still around listening to his stupid show is not going to be at all concerned about this.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh, no. This is what's gonna turn me off. Come on, buddy.

[Dan]

Alex. Alex was aware, though, early in his career. Yeah, can't get away with this kind of shit.

[Jordan]

It was just. He was just going to call into coast to coast for the rest of his life. Is that if that's what he was trying to do, probably, yeah.

[Dan]

But also, the timeline doesn't match up really well at all here. Makes no sense. He wasn't thinking about being political at all. Except he was volunteering for the Buchanan.

[Jordan]

Sure, he was volunteering for Buchanan campaign, but that's not politics. That's. I mean, I suppose that's maybe more joining the Klan.

[Dan]

Did his grandfather have any concerns about Alex Killing his great grandchildren.

[Jordan]

Sure, that's a good question.

[Dan]

Well, actually that was his dad who complained about that. This is the mom's side of the family.

[Jordan]

Oh, boy.

[Dan]

So maybe they have different.

[Jordan]

Maybe they're more.

[Dan]

Abortion.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Huh.

[Jordan]

I mean, if you've seen the. The future through sonar, psychic sonar bouncing. I mean, you're probably not as concerned about the birth rate because you already know. You know the rate of birth.

[Dan]

I suppose you already know that Elon Musk is going to repopulate Mars.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Why would you facilitate that?

[Jordan]

Why would you think about that? Why would any of those conversations about White, the replacement theory. They wouldn't bother a psychic. We'll be fine. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Friends. We'll get. We got this one.

[Dan]

Yeah. There's a lot of stuff in Alex's career that he really shouldn't have cared about. If he has the perspective of a psychic.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

It's weird.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, well.

[Jordan]

It's almost like he's full of shit.

[Dan]

Kinda. So here's some talk about how you can change the future if you know the future.

[Jordan]

I don't know if that's how that works.

[Alex Jones]

Time and space is one moment that we're continually experiencing. There is no past, present or future. But it's more like an expanding. You say the figure eights. Why that's a symbol of infinity or just an ongoing loop. But. But that's too simple of a way to describe. But that's kind of how our third dimensional mind would approximate it. And so it's big events out in the future, potential events that, that we're getting echoes back from. And so the future of humanity and hundreds of billions of potential humans in the future. And that big of a psychic broadcast that we. They've proven we are broadcasting electrochemically, even the third dimension. But beyond that, because we are antennae, we are picking up what you would call a future event because it's all in the space time system resonating. And then if you can pick up those future vibrations, the, the issue is then you can change those by actions. And the bad guys know this and that's why they try to manipulate things so they can try to control the future. The minute we understand that it's not like Oprah's secret where you just believe it, it happens. But there is that potentiality. As Genesis tells us, we're made in the image of God. It can do anything in that process, as we learn the secrets of the power of humanity. And so I believe and we'll talk to dark journals. His take on this, because I see he's seen similar things that.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry.

[Alex Jones]

Vernon Von Ron was seeing possible futures and was simply writing down and putting in the fiction format what he was picking up echoing from the future. That's how I was able to develop his program. We'll be right back.

[Dan]

Yeah, it sounds about right. I mean, it's like in Genesis.

[Jordan]

I see. I see no potential holes in this.

[Dan]

We are antennae that are bouncing future potentialities off of. Or Elon Musk's dad read the book? Sure, one of the two. It's either this nonsense, word salad bullshit.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

About time travel and changing the future through visions. 10 I sure. Or Elon Musk's dad read a book.

[Jordan]

Right, right. I feel like based upon your phrasing, your tone, you're not making an equal comparison here.

[Dan]

Well, would you like to hear from Elon Musk's dad?

[Jordan]

I feel like your thumb is on the. Is on the scales here.

[Dan]

Y little bit.

[Jordan]

Let's go back to your children's names.

[Dan]

Yeah, so. Okay, so. So we go back to my children's names. Elon. When I was a child, we used to build rockets and we used to read the books of Herman Oberth, Professor Oban, Herman Oberth, and Werner von Braun. And they had these illustrated. They weren't really comics, they were books.

[Alex Jones]

But they had illustrations and they were in German, unfortunately.

[Dan]

But the.

[Alex Jones]

The adult at that time that we.

[Jordan]

Were with who.

[Alex Jones]

Discovered Bennett's Comet, his name is Bennett, Mr. Bennett, he. He would tell us what the stories were saying about going to planets and.

[Dan]

All that sort of stuff. And we could see the illustrations and everything. And Werner von Braun's book, I think it was his or it could have been Oberg's book, spoke about that the head of the.

[Alex Jones]

The Mars colony would be called the Elon. Now. I remember that.

[Dan]

But I never thought of it as a name.

[Alex Jones]

I never thought it was a person's name. And then when May and I got married, we. I was quite amazed to discover that.

[Dan]

Her father's grandfather or something had been called Elon Alderman, which was. Really reminded me of the stories that we had.

[Alex Jones]

And so I thought, well, yes, I'd.

[Dan]

Like that name for Elon because it means something to me, Elon. So it's either that or Antenna future prophecy telling that Wernher von Braun did. Sure. Because his grandma or his mom was a super psychic.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

One of the two, Right?

[Jordan]

That one. The. Okay, now when you say primary source, all right, People think That's the best source. Wrong. He doesn't know anything about psychics.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

He's clearly been psychically tampered with.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's been manipulated from the past, future. Yeah. Obviously all of these radar, sonar things are fucking with Elon Musk's dad's head, making him think that he named his son after the book.

[Jordan]

It's Werner von Braun who's doing it now.

[Dan]

Vernon Braun is a puppet man.

[Jordan]

He's used his ability to see the future to make small changes to then make these things happen. Obviously yours makes sense, but only in the context of Verna Braun Braun being behind all actions of this current universe.

[Dan]

You have no free will.

[Jordan]

Absolutely not. Because Vernon Braun Braun could see the future and thus moved his foot in slightly different ways, thereby making this happen.

[Dan]

As evidenced by the Elon being a title.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Dan]

Of a Mars ruler in a book that he wrote.

[Jordan]

100% makes sense to me. I think everybody's right. Really.

[Dan]

Might be grasping at straws a tiny bit on Alex's part, but. Oh, well. So here he gives his gestalt.

[Jordan]

Good.

[Dan]

And I made a note here that just says this is rambling nonsense.

[Alex Jones]

Now just finishing what I was going to get at. This is my gestalt here. What I was thinking this morning in this big brainstorm. It lasts about 30 minutes. One of the little pieces was, we know the project to put hydrofluorcellic acid in the water or weaponized concentrated fluoride into the water. After World War II, they knew it would lower fertility, cause cancer, lower IQ. And then now, six months ago, the FDA comes out and the EPA and says we should get it out. It's really bad at the levels it's in. It massively hurts children. It's the opposite on the halogen chart of iodine. That with your pineal gland and all electrochemical activity causes higher vibration, higher brain waves. It's a fact. So they move to make sure you don't get iodine and make sure you get the bad one. And when you calcify your pineal gland, even the ancients knew that was associated with your sixth sense. And again, butterflies, ducks, geese, they've done studies. There's hundreds of them that I know of since the 70s. They have rods or in cones, not just like you have in your eyes, but your brain. The sign is like, what do these do? And then they've tested it out and notice they resonate on magnetic fields and things. That's how a butterfly hatches in Canada and flies all the way to Mexico. Monarch Butterflies that lay its eggs back up. But it takes three generations to get up there. And then the Super Monarch, that's much bigger, flies all the way back down. What a species. Columbia. How do hummingbirds fly from Texas to Guatemala? Some of them fly to South. South America. And they've got these little transceivers in their brains. And we have those as well. Whales have those.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Alex Jones]

Okay. So. But. But any insect or bird or animal that migrates has more of them. So that's just. The pineal gland is what's got the most of them in it. And fluoride calcifies that. You pull the studies up time. Fluoride calcification, pineal. Why would they do that? Well, Dr. Dick baggage, you know, his brothers, senators, Dad's famous congressman, Nick Begich. Thirty years ago, I started interviewing, broke down the fact, and this was all declassified. He would always go declassified. The Pentagon and the Russians all studied mind war and wanted to understand it for hundreds of years, really, before they called it the Pentagon. The Germans were obsessed on it. The British elites and others. But they discovered that most people that they would try to unlock their powers, would then understand the evil program and would turn against them. So they said instead of intensifying people's intelligence and awareness and connectivity and sensitivity, we want to just dumb everybody down.

[Dan]

Aha.

[Jordan]

What a species.

[Dan]

What a species.

[Jordan]

What a species.

[Dan]

Like, oh, my God, this makes so much sense.

[Jordan]

That was honestly. That was a journey.

[Dan]

So just to put it briefly because he got distracted by the animals of it all.

[Jordan]

It's very easy to get distracted there.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. The globalists put fluoride into the water in order to dull people's superpowers because they found that people who got superpowers ended up turning against them.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

These superpowers manifest in ways like Werner von Braun seeing the future and writing a book about Elon Musk before musk was born, which is way too dangerous to the globalists, I guess.

[Jordan]

Can't be having it.

[Dan]

This dude is a straight up fucking idiot.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

This is so dumb.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

But yeah, geese are cool.

[Jordan]

I mean, monarch butterflies, that would have been.

[Dan]

I'll miss them once the EPA stops protecting the environment.

[Jordan]

I think. I think what we. What? Okay, so here's my Vernon von Braun time travel thing that I would change.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

I would switch out Alex and Ms. Frizzle.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

Alex would make great the Magic School Bus episodes. Amazing. The best. Best. Not best. We'd learn about the butterflies pineal gland and then go crazy. Be awesome.

[Dan]

And I think she didn't drive the bus, right?

[Jordan]

She drove the bus. Oh, hell yeah, she drove the bus.

[Dan]

Okay, well, here's the advantage.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

She's not driving on roads.

[Jordan]

No, she's not.

[Dan]

And that means you can be drunk.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

Yeah. The magic school bus does not have a Breathalyzer.

[Jordan]

And I guarantee that 100% of the people who have listened to Infowars in its entirety, from birth to conception to whatever, would be better served listening to Ms. Frizzle.

[Dan]

If I had unlimited money. Yeah, that might be something I would want to do.

[Jordan]

Can we research that technology?

[Dan]

Hire Alex to just do education?

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Like make an educational series where we really learn about these. These butterflies.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Really get into it.

[Jordan]

Just. But you lead the way, my man. You drive that school bus to butterfly town.

[Dan]

I would like if I had millions of dollars just to make a master class.

[Jordan]

Do you know what, about everything? Weirdly enough, I was thinking about what I would do at the very beginning of the episode, for some reason, I just had this image of Alex being chained to the Total Request live set and forced to do a reboot.

[Dan]

Just of trl.

[Jordan]

Yep. Him doing trl.

[Dan]

Hey, how's it going?

[Jordan]

Just doing the whole, like, how's it going corn. Like the. The like my bum is on my face era of trl. Like him having to introduce that song to all these screaming teenagers. I would enjoy it.

[Dan]

Hey, Tom Green's made it to the top of the charts for one day, unseating Limp Bizkit.

[Jordan]

Yep, yep, yep. That's what we need.

[Dan]

That would be fun.

[Jordan]

That would be fun.

[Dan]

So the dark journalist sure is stupid. And I think that he just kind of mirrors a lot of Alex's shit.

[Alex Jones]

Tell us what you think, Alex.

[Dark Journalist]

It's great to be here. And you're so on the beam with this because of course, the thrust of it is that we are surrounded by energy and matter and there's a huge psychic component throughout all of these events that we talk about. The so called deep state events.

[Dan]

Yeah. And there's a psychic element to Wernher von Braun's book.

[Jordan]

Ooh, get out of here, nerd.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's just stupid, but so he reads a little bit of a passage from Von Braun's book about Mars.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dark Journalist]

I'm going to read the actual quote. This is what he has to say. Back then, in 1948, the Martian government was directed by 10 men, the leader of whom was elected by universal suffrage for five years and entitled Elon. Two houses of parliament enacted the laws to be administered by the Elon Musk and his cabinet. That's Von Braun. It's a quote. It can't be denied. It's not.

[Alex Jones]

In the last few years, Elon Musk has talked about when they set up a Martian government. It should be direct democracy, just like you just said.

[Dark Journalist]

Yes, exactly.

[Jordan]

Wow.

[Dan]

Elon is. He has ideas for how we'll have a Space Senate. And it just proves that Von Braun's book is. Is prophecy.

[Jordan]

These people are upside down. Into the bathroom now. Yeah, you're getting a swirly, my friend.

[Dan]

Yeah. So all of this is prompt, this whole interview and Alex's coverage is prompted by this going around on Twitter, the existence of this book and then Musk responding to it.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And that's the only reason that this is happening at all.

[Jordan]

Right. A nine month old quote from somebody in the euro. Yeah. And then a tweet of Elon learning, I guess again, about how his dad named him. Yep. Okay.

[Dan]

And pretending that there's some kind of a mystical thing going on.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Dan]

And so in order to really let this coverage hit the ground where it can run, they need to figure out, like, how do we talk about this in terms of the tweet?

[Jordan]

Right, sure.

[Dan]

Obviously Von Braun is a psychic and obviously he predicted Elon's rise.

[Jordan]

I suppose we have to assume those things. Yes.

[Dan]

The dark journalist said it was obvious.

[Jordan]

No, I've allowed it. We've just moved on. It's not debatable. This is America. We've moved on.

[Dan]

It's declassified.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

So when you talk about the tweet, what is the motivation for it?

[Dark Journalist]

But let's bring it back around to the Elon Musk idea, because Musk, I can guarantee you that Musk is very aware of this. So when he put that post out on X recently, it's quite interesting because he and his family and all the rest are very, very aware of that prediction. And he's coming up and saying, how could this be possible even. Well, that's new openness on his part.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. He's obviously now ready to trigger that debate.

[Dark Journalist]

Yes. No question.

[Alex Jones]

What do you make of his joke that he's a 5,000 year time traveler? Because you can actually time travel psychically, not actually be the classic thing people think of.

[Dark Journalist]

What do you think of that when he says that he likes to go back to that?

[Alex Jones]

I mean, you know, I mean, all I know is I have experiences that I've shared that are on record previously when I wouldn't do it, where, you know, I, I say, all right, well, and I. I feel from. From outside of me and. And I get told to say something. And the fact is I. When I. When it happens, though, I've got to go ahead and just make myself do it. I did it on election night. I said, Trump will announce he's the winner and come out on stage.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Alex Jones]

1 127. He cannot exactly do what I said. And that was just like. Like really do that. It's like, yeah, do that. And it's real. And it happened. I don't just. I don't say it a lot. You miss and miss sometimes. I never miss. Cause it's not me. And when I was. When I really had these super exciting experiences, looking in the future, I get really discombobulated. We'll be right back.

[Dan]

And sometimes I fall and hit a door.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

So, yeah, I mean, these people are insane. This is complete nonsense.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

They're talking about this as Musk wants to open up the debate about whether or not he is predestined to be the ruler of our type 1 civilization and expansion into space.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's why. That's why he's tweeting this. He's signaling that it's time to decide he's the leader of Earth.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

All right.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

It's time to have that conversation. Because this Nazi rocket guy wrote a book.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is fucking insane.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking about the different. While that was going on and while I was listening to those words be spoken out loud in defiance of. Of all manner of heavenly protections. Like the thing about when people say, oh, this would make me become the Joker, I've been cutting it. I think I've been imagining that in myself, but I've not realized the full. The fullness of it. Because it's not just becoming a super villain. It's about also wanting to theme your weapon. Do you know what I'm saying? It wasn't until just now that I was like. And also, the weapons I use need to be themed appropriately.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's the big part of becoming Batman Supervillain is like, you need a motif.

[Jordan]

It's not. Yeah, it's no longer about. It's no longer about the. Listen, super villainy is going to happen.

[Dan]

Well, it's. It's. It's not like people think of turning the Joker or whatever, and it's like they think about it as like, oh, I see, I'm going crazy.

[Jordan]

No, wrong, wrong. No, you've already gone crazy. This is when you start developing products.

[Dan]

Based around you being branding of the crazy.

[Jordan]

Yes. Yeah.

[Dan]

It's like the riddler figuring out question marks.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I felt. That's what I felt like. I was like, oh, yeah. It's time to really, like theme things, brand it, make a day out of it. Yeah.

[Dan]

What would you think you would do?

[Jordan]

What would I do? Something with big feet. I think I would have.

[Dan]

Wait, big foot or big feet?

[Jordan]

Well, that's what I'm saying. It would be a play on the two of those things. So I would have to have big feet. Yeah, that would be my thing.

[Dan]

Right.

[Jordan]

But I don't know where I would go from there by. My only move is gigantic shoes. Right.

[Dan]

Now, I haven't done a ton of research on this, but my. My friend Angela Lampsbury has informed me that Beast from X Men used to be a feet guy. That makes sense to mostly be foot based. You'd like kick people.

[Jordan]

Oh.

[Dan]

Oh, no.

[Jordan]

That's why he turned into.

[Dan]

No, he was just. His superpower was like feet stuff.

[Jordan]

Right. Because he had hands. He had like monkey feet.

[Dan]

Like feet.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. He had like feet hands.

[Dan]

Yeah. So maybe you should do that.

[Jordan]

But that's not my. I don't want to grasp things. I want to be on them. I want them to be very large.

[Alex Jones]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

All right.

[Jordan]

Like maybe, but like house sized shoes.

[Dan]

Not like shoes for around the house.

[Jordan]

No, no, no.

[Dan]

Like a house.

[Jordan]

Like the size of a small house. Single story.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

They would have to be expansive because the base would have to. So they're not really mobile shoes. I think I'm just gonna live in a giant shoe. I think that's what I'm doing.

[Dan]

There's an old lady who's got one.

[Jordan]

I think that's where I'm headed. I think that's what I've accidentally fallen into.

[Dan]

All right, cool.

[Jordan]

Yep, that'll happen.

[Dan]

I was thinking of what would mine be something like Frozen pizza guy. I don't know what that means. I eat a lot of frozen pizza.

[Jordan]

That's it.

[Dan]

Here's something that I think is dynamic about that moment, though. I think we should take a moment to appreciate.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That is that Alex, he's talking this dumb shit about Elon Musk and then he's like, what do you think about his joke about being a time travel guy or whatever?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And then the dark journalist does the one thing you're not supposed to do, which is ask Alex the exact same question back.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Because Alex isn't going to answer this.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

He's not going to say Yes, I believe Elon Musk is a time traveler. Nor is he going to say no, he's going to give you a non answer. Dark journalist, fucked up and it's going.

[Jordan]

To take a long time. Yeah, because he's trying to run out the clock. Yes, that's what he's doing. He's doing the book report. Ah, but if I talk long enough, you can't grade me.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I. People will just ignore the fact that I did not have thought about this at all.

[Jordan]

Nope. Not even one.

[Dan]

So we have one last clip and it's a discussion of what a species. How Elon Musk wants to rewrite our species.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

The history of it by going to Mars.

[Jordan]

Not good.

[Dan]

And finding archaeological stuff up there.

[Jordan]

Now I'm listening.

[Dark Journalist]

My own personal look at this and the environment of Musk and the push for Mars and how NASA is pursuing this is that what they're looking at is we want to get there and establish the ruins and you know, establish this new origin story for humanity. That is the goal.

[Alex Jones]

And they tell you that in total recall.

[Dark Journalist]

Yes, exactly.

[Jordan]

Who tells you who's they in Total recall of?

[Dark Journalist]

Philip K. Dick. How clued in was this guy? Of course, you know, I've spoken to family members of his who say he had all these men in black experiences where they would break in and steal his writings, steal his research and all the rest of it. This guy's writing Blade Runner, you know, do aliens dream of electric sheep and things of this nature. He's right in there. He has that aspect where he can tune into it.

[Alex Jones]

Everything you say I can back up because I separately, you know, I've been in a movie with Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder Morton, you know, all those people. Woody Harrelson, Standard Arkley. And I was a technical advisor on it. And I'll just leave it at that. Obviously Philip K. Dick's daughters were involved, but I've heard all that directly from the source and I'm going to stop right there because there was also people involved there with the NASA project.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Jordan]

Because see the Green Goblin.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

He's got grenades. They're just regular bombs.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

It's the turning them to pumpkins. It's the. I'm going to paint these. I'm going to make sure that these are like my themed. You know what I mean?

[Dan]

Well, it's, it's. It's a sign that you care.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, that's really what the is people don't recognize about super villainy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is that.

[Jordan]

It's Dedication.

[Dan]

Right. There's an art to it. And that's why some of the super villains are disappointing.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

It's because they don't have the commitment.

[Jordan]

It's about commitment and it's a. It is almost in a certain way, it is about that true commitment is insane. You know, to commit fully is to embrace insanity. And I think that's what we can all learn.

[Dan]

Well, Dr. Octopus.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Now when we talk about Dr. Octopus, did he have.

[Jordan]

Well, he did have eight limbs total.

[Dan]

What?

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean he had the four number.

[Dan]

Of limbs is his fault. That's what you're talking about.

[Jordan]

Well, no, that's what I mean, you know, that's why he's got the four. He's got the four. He'S got eight total. Dr. Doc Aqua works.

[Dan]

Right.

[Jordan]

I think that's fair.

[Dan]

When we talk about Gentleman Dan.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

For those early Spider man villains.

[Jordan]

Now we're talking.

[Dan]

Yeah. Those people were committed.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Look, I don't know what to say about this. Dark journalists belief. Is that so Elon Musk's mom.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

She was an archaeologist in South Africa and she was doing secret projects about an Atlantean civilization that no one's able to figure anything out about that is. Will tell us more about our own human history. Right. The secret space stuff.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And there's ruins on Mars and Musk wants to get up there in order to find these ruins in order to I guess continue his mom's work or something. In order to rewrite human history. Now I would argue that if he does that he has just killed God.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And so Alex should really not be thrilled about that.

[Jordan]

Yeah. But hey, you know, but on another. And on. Perhaps on a more. And this could be more an esoteric level, but if it's possible to kill God, I believe it's our responsibility to kill God.

[Dan]

Well, I don't want to argue with you about that. I just. I think that Alex shouldn't be into it.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

Also, it was fancy dude. Fancy Gentleman Dan. So I just wanted to.

[Jordan]

Gentleman Dan was the hair care brand. Right.

[Dan]

Probably Dapper Dan.

[Jordan]

Dapper Dan, that was a different one.

[Dan]

These people are stupid. There's a lot going on in the world and they're spending a fair amount of time talking about Elon Musk tweeting about this Werner von Braun bullshit. And it's crazy. It's crazy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

There's no reason to do this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He is so far up Elon's ass that I just, I. He can't see light. He can't see the daylight.

[Jordan]

It is, it is amazing that he can be doing something so, so awful. Like I feel like I should leave like the whole, like the whole Earth. Like apparently it is. This is yours. Apparently this whole thing is yours. I fucked up. This is on me.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

This, this makes me feel sad for him as a legacy, you know? Like I, I.

[Jordan]

I want to go live on like the Luke Skywalker island from Last Jedi and drink blue milk from giant weird lizard fat things. I'll do it. If that's what. If that's what it takes, that's what I'll do.

[Dan]

I think Alex needs some brand rehab. And I don't think that this wacky Wednesday ass Project Camelot level nonsense with dark journalist is going to do it.

[Jordan]

Not going to do it.

[Dan]

But I actually, I mean like if he just wants to do that for a long time, I guess. Whatever.

[Jordan]

I guess that's it.

[Dan]

It's a little cowardly.

[Jordan]

I would say so.

[Dan]

But one week in.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

We'll see what happens down the line. But until then. We have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do. It's knowledgewright.com.

[Dan]

Yep, we will be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Woo.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the sex robots.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Jordan]

Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a huge fan.

[Jordan]

I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.