Knowledge Fight Episode #1011: January 28, 2025

Release Date: February 24, 2025
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Main Focus: Reviewing and analyzing clips from the January 28, 2025 Alex Jones Show

Overview

Dan and Jordan return to break down a recent episode of The Alex Jones Show. Their analysis centers on how Alex Jones frames contemporary events, particularly around immigration, Trump’s policies, the shifting political climate, and the ongoing evolution of rightwing conspiracy rhetoric. They explore Jones’s descent into overt advocacy for authoritarian policies, his performative hypocrisy, and the tendency of Infowars to now serve more as a vessel for Twitter engagement than as a standalone media platform.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show Banter & Bright Spots

[01:11 – 06:50]

• Lighthearted opening as Dan and Jordan share their “bright spots,” discussing British journalists’ approach to covering American oddities (like Jamali Maddix at the Moon gun church) and nerd out about the video game Warriors Abyss.
• “There’s something about a British person interacting kind of jovially with American weirdos.” – Dan [01:48]
• Jordan praises Warriors Abyss for its mindless fun, comparing it to Hades and Dynasty Warriors. Banter establishes the duo’s playful tone and sets up a contrast to the grim topics ahead.

2. State of Alex Jones: Show Format & Audience Engagement

[08:11 – 09:17]

• Dan and Jordan observe that Infowars’ current format is less about reporting news and more about Jones rambling and riffing on social media trends and audience submissions.
• Jones is now openly crowdsourcing most of his content from Twitter replies:
  • “90% of this is… you posting under my post” – Alex Jones [16:41]
• Dan and Jordan are struck by Jones’s lack of shame about this approach:
  • “If you have awareness of it, you should be embarrassed.” – Dan [17:23]

3. Jones’s Hardline Immigration and Border Rhetoric

[10:37 – 30:05]

• Jones exults in the idea of a “Fortress America,” advocating a Monroe Doctrine-style approach and fantasizing about the military violently confronting Mexican cartels:
  • “Trump is just devastating the living shit out of the globalists.” – Alex Jones [11:35]
  • “You’re either expanding or you’re dying. … I’m not for an American empire of military… but [of] ideas and culture and industry.” – Alex Jones [18:00]
• Hosts note the contradiction with Jones’s former anti-empire, anti-police state persona.
• Jones runs with unsubstantiated or exaggerated cartel stories, using them to justify military escalation.
  • “He’s essentially saying that the military can kill whoever they want so long as they tell him that they were in the cartel. This bloodthirsty rightwing mentality… he was supposed to exist in opposition to.” – Dan [25:22]
• Alex expresses overtly fascist rhetoric:
  • “If you went to Mexico and grabbed somebody at a Mexican parade and grabbed their flag, you’d get beat to death. And you pretty much should.” – Alex Jones [46:13]
• Dan and Jordan emphasize that Alex’s past “principles” were always a ruse—he’s now revealing his underlying rightwing authoritarianism.

4. Culture Wars: Captain America, Race, and “Wokeism”

[30:10 – 40:00, 75:10 – 89:50]

• Jones is triggered by the new Black Captain America, parroting racist talking points about patriotism and American identity.
  • “Captain America should not represent Captain… A black represent America. Captain America has nothing to do with America… It’s a psyop.” – Alex Jones [32:58]
• Dan and Jordan gently mock Jones’s confusion and villain-level reading of comic book media.
• Bulks of later discussion focus on the supposed dangers of "wokeism," especially as reflected in tech and education.
  • Mike Adams (guest) claims Chinese AI surpasses US models because it’s “less woke,” advocating for a Cultural Revolution-style purge of progressives:
    • “Fire every woke teacher, every woke professor, every woke administrator…” – Mike Adams [82:00]
    • “Wokeism is cognitive retardation.” – Mike Adams [78:35]
  • Adams veers into anti-LGBT+ bigotry, blaming “lesbian fire chiefs” for firefighting failures [84:00], prompting laughter and incredulity from Dan and Jordan.

5. Policy: Inspector Generals Firing & Justifying Authoritarianism

[52:05 – 59:04]

• Jones cheerleads for Trump’s controversial and likely illegal firing of multiple inspectors general, attempting to justify it by (incorrectly) comparing it to a single instance during the Obama administration:
  • “Obama fired inspector general in 2009.” – Alex Jones [56:07]
• Dan breaks down the factual and legal difference—Obama followed protocol firing one, Trump lawlessly axed at least 17 in a week.
  • “It’s meant to look like an argument appealing to the Constitution or principle, but that’s really just a mask on. ‘I have made this look like tyranny so I can do it now too.’” – Dan [59:04]
• The hosts stress the trend: rightwingers whitewash tyranny by painting their enemies as devils, then excusing the same or worse for their allies.

6. Conspiracy & Grievance: NGOs, Antitrust, and “Globalism”

[62:32 – 66:13]

• Jones revives classic John Birch Society talking points, ranting about “globalist” foundations and NGOs:
  • Mangles the history—misnames Anthony Sutton, misstates the purpose and origin of antitrust law.
  • Dan: “Big business wants there to be no antitrust laws. And Alex’s ideological forefathers were shills for big business, whether he wants to accept it or not.” [64:33]
• Hosts agree that philanthropy and foundations exploit legal loopholes, but dismiss Alex’s broader conspiratorial framing as self-serving nonsense.

7. The Alex Jones “Brand” Now: Twitter-Driven Content & Self-Pity

[72:54 – 75:37, 94:00 – End]

• Jones veers into his own legal, financial, and reputational troubles, complaining about injustices and needing to sell “a lot of sea moss to fight the devil.”
  • “You gotta sell a lot of sea moss to fight the devil.” – Alex Jones [74:55]
• Dan suggests Alex is more Twitter “engagement-farmer” than host:
  • “He’s not a show host anymore. He’s a guy who has a social media account and the show is kind of an offshoot of that.” – Dan [94:13]
• Jordan likens him to a failed Tosh.0.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|----------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 11:35 | Alex Jones | “Trump is just devastating the living shit out of the globalists. I mean it is unbelievable.” | | 16:41 | Alex Jones | “90% of this is… you posting under my post.” | | 18:00 | Alex Jones | “Manifest Destiny and expansion, you’re either expanding or you’re dying… Of course we need to get Greenland.” | | 25:22 | Dan | “He’s essentially saying that the military can kill whoever they want so long as they tell him they were in the cartel. This bloodthirsty right-wing mentality…” | | 32:58 | Alex Jones | “Captain America should not represent Captain… A black represent America. Captain America has nothing to do with America… It’s a psyop.” | | 46:13 | Alex Jones | “If you went to Mexico and grabbed somebody at a Mexican parade and grabbed their flag, you’d get beat to death. And you pretty much should.” | | 56:07 | Alex Jones | “Obama fired inspector general in 2009.” | | 64:33 | Dan | “Big business wants there to be no antitrust laws. And Alex’s ideological forefathers were shills for big business whether he wants to accept it or not.” | | 74:55 | Alex Jones | “You gotta sell a lot of sea moss to fight the devil.” | | 78:35 | Mike Adams | “Wokeism is cognitive retardation. That is the opposite of innovation.” | | 82:00 | Mike Adams | “Fire every woke teacher, every woke professor, every woke administrator…” |

Important Timestamps

• [10:37 – 14:22]: Alex fantasizes about violence at the border and “Fortress America.”
• [18:40 – 22:00]: Jones calls for a new Manifest Destiny, wants “to get Greenland.”
• [30:14 – 36:07]: Outrage over Black Captain America and “leftist scum.”
• [46:13 – 47:30]: Jones says it’s justified to beat people “to death” for taking flags.
• [52:05 – 59:04]: Alex’s defense and misrepresentation of Trump’s IG firings.
• [75:10 – 85:05]: Dan and Jordan dissect “wokeism,” Mike Adams’s AI/China rants and anti-LGBT+ bigotry.
• [94:00 – end]: The shift in Infowars’ entire model to Twitter– and engagement-driven pseudo-content.

Tone & Language

• The hosts’ tone is incisive, sardonic, and darkly comic in the face of Jones’s increasingly extreme and hypocritical rhetoric.
• Dan frequently provides researched, calm debunking of Jones’s misinformation while Jordan leans into outrage and humor.

Conclusion

Dan and Jordan make clear that Alex Jones and Infowars have abandoned any pretense of principled anti-authoritarianism. Jones openly roots for violent, racist policy, shows contempt for civil liberties, and recycles right-wing talking points he spent decades ostensibly opposing. His show now serves as a megaphone for whatever grievance or conspiracy is trending among his Twitter following, with occasional detours into self-pity and product shilling. The episode stands as a thorough indictment of Jones’s hypocrisy and the dangers of his now-unmasked ideology.