Jordan (1:19)

We're not. We can't handle the truth. No, fair enough.

Dan (1:23)

It's too big and may change everything forever.

Jordan (1:27)

I always thought that was a great place to end the movie. Like if he was just like, you can't handle the truth and everybody was like, I think you're right, game over. And then everybody home.

Dan (1:36)

Yeah, that would.

Alex Jones (1:37)

I don't.

Dan (1:38)

I don't know if that scene, you know, maybe that scene would be even more legendary if that was the case.

Jordan (1:42)

That would absolutely never be forgotten by me.

Dan (1:45)

Yeah, sure.

Jordan (1:45)

Yeah.

Dan (1:46)

If they were just like halfway through, like this crisis. You don't even want to solve the mystery. You're right. Fuck this.

Jordan (1:53)

I'm out. Honestly, I don't.

Dan (1:55)

Yeah, you make a good point.

Jordan (1:57)

Let's go get something to eat. What are we doing here?

Dan (2:00)

So that'll. That'll come to pass.

Jordan (2:02)

Just ignore that.

Dan (2:03)

Yeah, you'll be. You'll be made ready for that in due time.

Jordan (2:06)

Okay.

Dan (2:07)

But instead, the bright spot that I have is that last night I was thinking about it and I realized that I had never seen the new Matrix movie.

Jordan (2:14)

Sure. Yeah.

Dan (2:15)

I just let it slide. I'll get around to it eventually. And then I never did. And so I was like, I'll just watch that.

Jordan (2:21)

You can.

Dan (2:22)

And so I watched it and I enjoyed it. Yeah, I thought it was great.

Jordan (2:25)

I thought it was pretty good.

Dan (2:26)

Yeah. I was ready to be really disappointed.

Jordan (2:28)

Yeah.

Dan (2:29)

Because there's The. The pressure and just the reality of rebooting or revisiting something 20 years later. And I thought, there's no way they're going to be able tactfully navigate that territory.

Jordan (2:41)

Yeah.

Alex Jones (2:41)

I thought they did great.

Jordan (2:42)

Yeah.

Dan (2:43)

I thought it was a lot of fun.

Jordan (2:45)

Yep.

Dan (2:46)

Interesting enough.

Jordan (2:48)

It is. It is hard to be effusive while at the same time saying, I think they did a perfectly fine job. You know, like, great job. End of compliments.

Dan (2:58)

Yeah.

Jordan (2:58)

Nailed it.

Dan (2:59)

I thought that one of the things that I enjoyed about it was even though I know it's a Matrix movie, I still didn't know what really was real for most of it.

Jordan (3:11)

Sure.

Dan (3:12)

I know that's a game that they're playing. I'm out for. I'm out for it.

Jordan (3:16)

Right, right, right.

Dan (3:17)

But I still, like, I think at the end of it, they could have revealed that he was having a, like, psychotic break.

Jordan (3:22)

Would have been fine.

Dan (3:23)

Would have been fine.

Jordan (3:24)

Yeah.

Dan (3:24)

Would have been.

Jordan (3:25)

Totally. Yeah. Or if right before they were like, you can't handle the AI and. Yeah, let's. I'll go home.

Dan (3:31)

Yeah. They. They told the story in the way that a number of options for conclusion would have been all right.

Jordan (3:40)

Yeah.

Dan (3:40)

And that's a good story, I think.

Jordan (3:42)

Yeah. And it's just great to see Keanu and Kerry back at it.

Dan (3:46)

Sure.

Jordan (3:46)

Just doing their thing.

Dan (3:47)

Yep.

Jordan (3:47)

Kicking.

Dan (3:48)

Wasn't bothered by the new characters either.

Alex Jones (3:50)

Nope.

Dan (3:51)

I thought the guy who did Smith was good.

Jordan (3:53)

Neil Patrick Harris.

Dan (3:54)

No, he's the analyst.

Jordan (3:56)

That's right.

Dan (3:56)

He was good, too, though.

Jordan (3:57)

He was great.

Dan (3:58)

Yeah.

Jordan (3:58)

I was surprised to see Neil Patrick Harris.

Dan (4:00)

Yeah.

Jordan (4:00)

That really threw me.

Dan (4:02)

And I was surprised that, you know, as somebody who was, like, right. At a critical age when the Matrix came out, I can be a little bit snooty about that kind of stuff.

Jordan (4:13)

Sure.

Dan (4:13)

I. Nothing ended up being, like, fuck this.

Jordan (4:17)

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan (4:18)

Nothing. Like, was a. Like a break of. Of. Of a need to assert, like, my connection.

Jordan (4:23)

Sure. No. Yeah. Perfectly fine job.

Dan (4:25)

Huzzah. But that. That the movie could end.

Jordan (4:31)

Sure.

Dan (4:31)

Is. Is like, you can't handle the truth. You're right. I can't. That's the same thing of, like, if you just taken a blue pill.

Jordan (4:37)

Totally.

Dan (4:38)

You know.

Jordan (4:38)

Yep. That would have been a great short.

Dan (4:40)

Yep.

Jordan (4:40)

Because he would have had that. Because we would have gotten, like, most of the movie. Right. We would have gotten to him going to work his mouth is all, like, we would have gotten him trying to fly out there and then choosing that. He's not going to go.

Dan (4:53)

Yeah.

Jordan (4:53)

And Then he's like, oh, yeah, cool, Mr. Smith, you who you won. No big deal. And then we break him out and then he's like, you can take the red pill or you can take the blue. And he just grabs the blue pill and then movie over.

Dan (5:03)

We never know.

Jordan (5:04)

We never know. We just. The end and everything's fine.

Alex Jones (5:08)

Yeah.

Dan (5:08)

What about you? What's your bright spot?

Jordan (5:10)

My bright spot is tennis, my man. Indian Wells.

Dan (5:14)

I should have had a better response to that, but I was taking a sip.

Jordan (5:17)

No, you're good. You're good. Tennis. It's good.

Dan (5:19)

Very exciting.

Jordan (5:20)

It's good stuff. We've already got. Djokovic is already out. He's not looking great.

Dan (5:26)

He didn't retire. I thought, I thought there was a whole changing of the guard of these, these folks who have been around for a while.

Jordan (5:32)

No, but he's. He's very clearly on the way out because he just does. You know what it is, you can see it when he play. He doesn't care as much anymore.

Dan (5:40)

He needs a vaccine.

Jordan (5:41)

He needs. He needs the two of them. He misses his greatest rivals.

Dan (5:46)

And this gets back to the Matrix.

Jordan (5:47)

Yeah, it does. It really does. Without the other two, without Agent Smith.

Dan (5:52)

There'S no need for Neo and Trinity together, there's no power.

Jordan (5:57)

Exactly.

Dan (5:57)

Without Rafa and Djokovic, without the three.

Jordan (6:00)

Of them pushing each other, they all kind of just look at the rest of the world and go, you're not good enough at tennis for me to care anymore.

Dan (6:07)

So. But. But that could lead to him like really clowning on fools and being like, I need to create the next Rafa to satisfy my need.

Jordan (6:16)

Yeah. Whenever he plays like Alcaraz or somebody like that, ratchet it up plays, I'm the best there ever was. Plays like that just lost to some guy. Just. Just some guy.

Dan (6:28)

That's. That's hubris.

Jordan (6:29)

Yeah. You know, he just doesn't care.

Dan (6:31)

Yeah.

Jordan (6:31)

What's the point? Do you know how hard it is to travel around the world playing tennis? It's really hard.

Dan (6:37)

Yeah, I think it's probably really hard, but I think you get used to a lot of the ways that it's hard over the course of a decades long career.

Jordan (6:45)

And then you're 40 and you're thinking, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah.

Dan (6:51)

He's done a lot already.

Jordan (6:52)

He has. He really has.

Dan (6:53)

So who's looking good in this, this tournament?

Jordan (6:56)

Let's see. A lot of people are already out. I think my money's probably on Alcaraz because Zverev is already out. He was the top seed. He lost right away. There's just nobody. You know, it's just Alcaraz and then Yannick Sinner. He's out of the sport for a few months because he was caught doping.

Dan (7:12)

Oh, no.

Jordan (7:13)

And it's a whole thing.

Dan (7:14)

Where do you stand on doping?

Jordan (7:17)

I'm for it.

Dan (7:17)

See, I think. I think a lot of people have that. Take.

Jordan (7:21)

Yeah, whatever.

Dan (7:22)

Right.

Jordan (7:22)

What are you. What are we doing? What are we doing? I genuinely. I'm of the opinion that, like, fine, if you don't want to do doping, that's fine, but you also can't take, like, pills.

Dan (7:35)

Any.

Jordan (7:36)

Yeah. Why would. How is a. How is a pain reducer not a performance enhancer?

Dan (7:41)

Okay.

Jordan (7:41)

Your performance is gonna suffer if you are in massive pain.

Dan (7:46)

Now let's take this out a little bit further.

Jordan (7:48)

Okay.

Dan (7:49)

Can you take like, vitamin C?

Jordan (7:51)

Absolutely not.

Dan (7:52)

Okay, so no vitamin C. But that's.

Jordan (7:53)

My point about how doping is stupid or how anti doping is stupid because eventually you just get to. We're making an arbitrary choice where you can have pain P. But you can't have.

Dan (8:03)

How is not being hungry a performance enhancement?

Jordan (8:05)

Exactly, Exactly. Right. Let people do drugs.

Dan (8:08)

You know, you get a lot of vitamins you need from the sun.

Jordan (8:11)

Sure. You can't have that. We need to be in the dark.

Dan (8:13)

Yeah.

Jordan (8:14)

Tennis needs to be played in pitch blackness by malnutritious, broke down babies, essentially.

Dan (8:22)

Also knowing that people are watching you increases.

Jordan (8:25)

Increases your performance.

Dan (8:26)

Yeah. So, like, again, no one can observe.

Jordan (8:28)

The people playing tennis if it's in perfect place. What we're saying is we need to be looking at a box, questioning whether or not there are even tennis players inside of it. Schrodinger's tennis match is what you're looking for.

Dan (8:39)

It cannot be observed lest you meddle with.

Jordan (8:42)

And that's pure competition is what that is. Right. That's how you. That's how you handle doping.

Alex Jones (8:47)

Yeah, I agree.

Dan (8:49)

So today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about February 2, 2025. We're into February on Sunday.

Jordan (8:57)

All right.

Dan (8:58)

And Alex, I think that there's a couple of points where he actually touches on news that's happening.

Jordan (9:05)

Interesting.

Dan (9:05)

Yes.

Jordan (9:06)

This is a break from tradition for us.

Dan (9:08)

Not as much as I'd like it to be, but yes, a little bit of. Oh, that's. That's a thing. That's a thing that's happening. All right, all right, so we'll talk about this here in a minute, but first, let's take a Little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

Jordan (9:21)

That's a great idea.

Dan (9:22)

So, first, OSHA compliant Hawaiian shirt. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (9:26)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (9:27)

Thank you very much.

Dan (9:27)

Thank you. Next. I renounce the insulin phasmid. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (9:35)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (9:36)

Thank you very much.

Dan (9:37)

Thank you. Next. Mochi the sweetie, leader of the breakaway cult of Selene, the Silver Vine Davidians. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (9:44)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (9:45)

Thank you very much.

Dan (9:46)

Thank you. And Technocrat. We got one of them in the mix, so thank you so much. 2 Shout out to cryptotheism on Tumblr, who introduced many of their followers to your show during the Sandy Hook trial days. Thanks for the rec. Caretaker. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

Alex Jones (10:00)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (10:01)

4 stars.

Alex Jones (10:02)

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

Dan (10:19)

Thank you so much.

Jordan (10:20)

Yes. Thank you very much.

Dan (10:22)

So we begin this Sunday episode of Alex's show with something that shouldn't be surprising to too many people, and that is a celebration of stuff that Elon Musk is doing great.

Alex Jones (10:35)

It is Sunday, February 2, 2025. We are 13 days, 4 hours, 44 seconds into the new Trump administration and the globalist worst nightmares have come true. I am here to report to you, and I'm getting chills right now, that Trump and Elon Musk and his people he's brought in did not do a hundred percent of what I thought they would do in their first two weeks. A few days ago, I said it would be 200% on what I was expecting. They are now at 1000. Wow. If I had to use a number. I mean, the developments since yesterday morning, okay, all the bad guys are in a lot of trouble since Elon got into all of the Treasury Department payment systems. You know that there's over 30 trillion in the last 20 years. That's a conservative number missing from different agencies. But all of the payment histories are there. Now, I have spent since this started breaking yesterday afternoon because they had a few hours in there first to start releasing snapshots. Probably 10 hours yesterday afternoon and today looking at this, just trying to track what Musk is releasing the receipts on. @ Elon Musk on X is a full time job. Imagine he's not sleeping right now. This is what he's known to do when he first goes into a crisis. And he is in there with all these top accountants, all these top forensic accountants going absolutely ape.

Dan (12:20)

So that sounds unhealthy. You're spending 10 hours in a day looking at Elon's Twitter.

Jordan (12:25)

Yeah. I'm a little confused as to why people look up to somebody who treats that as a good way of doing things.

Dan (12:31)

Just be like, I'm not gonna sleep and tweet.

Jordan (12:34)

Yeah.

Dan (12:34)

Like a bunch.

Jordan (12:35)

Like now that we know stuff about the human body and like nutrients and foods and all of those things. Like you make better decisions when you're well fed, when you're not hungry, when you're not tired, when you're doping, you know, like you're doing. You're doing good. Like, we should look up to people who make decisions in very, very narrow circumstances, right?

Dan (12:55)

Well, sure, maybe. But also, these aren't decisions that are being made.

Jordan (12:58)

That's fair.

Dan (12:59)

Tweets, that is. Alex is reflecting on.

Jordan (13:02)

That is fair.

Dan (13:03)

So what's going on is a very clearly illegal and dangerous situation for Elon and his team of dipshits to have access to the government's treasury. But here we are. Naturally, lawsuits were filed about him having access to these records. And a judge ruled that Doge could have read only access to treasury files and that they were limited to having a two member team. One of the two people on this team, you know, you gotta choose the best and brightest. Alex says there's all these top forensic accountants.

Jordan (13:29)

Sure.

Dan (13:30)

One of them ended up being a guy named Marco Ella's who resigned after the Wall Street Journal discovered that he ran a racist Twitter account that posted things like, quote, I was racist before it was cool and quote, normalize Indian hate.

Jordan (13:42)

Sure.

Dan (13:43)

He resigned because it seems bad that a committed public racist was one of the two people chosen by Musk to access the treasury systems. But then Musk decided he wanted to bring Ellez back and posted on Twitter, he will be brought back to err is human, to forgive divine. This was after JD Vance came out and publicly argued that this racist guy should be kept in his position, which is kind of ironic considering that his wife's parents are from India. Anyway, racism won the day. But even still, Musk has not posted tons of receipts of government wasteful spending. Pretty much everything that's been posted on Twitter has either been misrepresented or stuff that's already public information that they're pretending was kept secret. And Alex pretending like this thing where there's like all this billions and trillions of dollars has gone missing, but there's these records. That's a terrible system.

Jordan (14:30)

Yeah.

Dan (14:31)

If they, if, if the, the villains were doing that, they're stupid and this is stupid.

Jordan (14:36)

Yeah. It doesn't make too much sense from anybody's point of view to have multiple sets of hidden books, which I think is what we would have to be talking about here for them to also have secret records that were kept from the people who we already have secret records for on top of the regular records that are public. Yeah, that's too many records.

Dan (14:56)

It is. It would require a level of organization. That is farce.

Jordan (15:00)

Most of them can't keep regular records together.

Dan (15:03)

That's tough.

Jordan (15:04)

Yeah, that's tough.

Dan (15:05)

It's a full time job. Much like watching Elon Musk's Twitter feed.

Jordan (15:09)

There's definitely that. Or normalizing Indian hate. That also apparently is a full time job.

Dan (15:13)

Sure.

Jordan (15:14)

Great.

Dan (15:15)

So we have a plan in place, I guess for dealing with the treasury and it's just like stop paying shit.

Jordan (15:22)

That'll work.

Dan (15:23)

It's a good plan.

Jordan (15:24)

That'll work.

Alex Jones (15:24)

Now remember middle of last week, Trump froze 3 trillion in slush funds that Biden got Congress to pass to put into all these NGOs and people. So some federal judge, low level, blocks it, but that'll get overturned, but doesn't matter. There's more than one way to skin a cat. You just put on leave and, or fire the administrators and bureaucrats and then you take the power they have away from making the payments. So I, I'm going to try to condense this down here tonight and just give you snapshots of some of it. But this should be the number one story in the world. It is a big story. People are following it, but they're not realizing how big this is. Trump is doing exactly what you would do to legally and lawfully seize control of the government. The swamp. You want to drain the swamp, you have to first get all the command and control systems in it. And then you have to expose the crime that was going on to burn down. Any responses? These crooks are going to have through the corporate media. And the corporate media is already, if you thought they were rolling over before, they are pissing themselves and rolling over, showing their bellies right now this morning on the news of this, the Ukrainian dictator Zelensky rolled over and said, listen, I didn't steal the money. We got the video of him saying it. 58% never came here. They stole it. Washington stole it. The Democrats stole it. And I'm ready for peace. And I. And I'll have elections. I'll have elections in a year. Instead of himself as a dictator, so he's got the fear of God in his eyes. He looks like he is on a bunch of drugs, cocaine or something. I mean, he. I think there was probably poop in his pants.

Dan (17:16)

That's probably, um. So what Alex is describing here is very illegal, and it's counter to his longtime stated positions that he's advocated and preached over the years. For most of his career, Alex has screamed about how Congress has the power of the purse and controls spending. He had this position because it's what the Constitution says and because he knew on some level that it was unlikely that he was ever gonna have a real nutty tyrant win the presidency and take over the executive branch. So you wouldn't need to advocate for the president being able to dictate all this shit.

Jordan (17:47)

Sure, sure, sure.

Dan (17:48)

The best option for him was within the law, and it was electing enough people into Congress to attack government spending that way. Now, Trump has come into office and he's released executive orders freezing government spending. On one level, that sounds like a decision he can make, because, you know, you. You want to hear that as him stopping new spending. It's like putting someone on a budget when there's a financial pinch that comes into place. But the problem is that a lot of the spending that he wants to freeze is funding that's already been approved by and apportioned by Congress. He's directly attacking Congress's power of the purse, which is something that Alex has always pretended to care about. There are funds that were apportioned by the latest infrastructure bill, for example, that were supposed to be frozen by Trump's executive order, which is a huge problem. This is called impoundment. When a president attempts to stop funding that's already been approved by Congress and it's been litigated before through the courts, and it's established that the president does not have this authority. This is an attempt on Trump's part to essentially steal public funds that the government voted to authorize for public use because he disagrees with some or all of it and how it's being used, it's a fundamentally undemocratic and illegal act. And I guess we can just hope that the courts don't allow it, because if Trump can just refuse to fund things that Congress approves and fire people who tried to distribute those funds. There's not really much of a point for Congress to exist. And I understand being, you know, disillusioned and being like, the Supreme Court's all bought and paid for. And I think that there's some reason to have worry about that. But in this specific, narrow example, Brett Kavanaugh has been very opposed to this position. So him allowing this to stand would be in stark contrast to shit. Tons of stuff that he's argued in the past, which is not impossible.

Jordan (19:36)

Sure. No, I was thinking that what they should do is just have, like, every agency should just have a judge with them at all times and a couple of lawyers, and then whenever Trump sends an order, then we can just hash it out in the office, you know, because otherwise people are going to start doing stuff, and then you have to go to the. The court and sue it, like, make it all happen faster. Everybody get in a room all the time.

Dan (20:02)

It's like how the 247 championship in the WWE used to have, like, you have to have a ref with you. So people just started hanging out with.

Jordan (20:11)

Absolutely. Just be with a ref at all times. There's always a battle going on.

Dan (20:16)

Yeah.

Jordan (20:16)

You should always be forced to wake up in the middle of the night because Trump has decided to have a new order.

Dan (20:21)

Right.

Jordan (20:22)

And then, bam, Judge a couple of lawyers.

Dan (20:25)

I don't want to live this way.

Jordan (20:27)

Sure.

Dan (20:27)

But I don't think that what you're saying is, like, not a terrible way that we.

Jordan (20:34)

Literally, everything he says is going to have to go to court.

Dan (20:38)

Yes.

Jordan (20:38)

It would be ridiculous not to at least try.

Dan (20:41)

You were living in the 247 championship as opposed to, like, the heavyweight championship.

Jordan (20:45)

Yeah, yeah. There's no reason to be like, oh, let's schedule this later, buddy. We're going to be here a long time. You start scheduling things, and we're just.

Dan (20:53)

Talking about scheduling, and in the meantime, the person's gonna run away with the.

Jordan (20:58)

Yeah. Because that's how it. That's how it works.

Dan (21:00)

Yeah. Yeah. So Alex rocks out a little bit over some. Some jams and then says some bullshit.

Alex Jones (21:08)

Ladies and gentlemen, we are living in a real revolution. The old globalist order is collapsing and burning into cinders in front of you. The end of their system is absolutely uncertain, unstoppable. Let everybody hear it. The heads are now rolling. Oh, they're not gonna roll. They're rolling. Thank you, Jesus. Yes, yes, yes. Listeners, you know, I don't come to you with good news unless it's real. Decades high, people said, why are you Telling us we're behind. Why are you telling us we're getting our ass kicked? Why are you telling us we're in deep trouble? Cuz we were. But we finally woke up to the enemy attack and said, we accept the challenge. Some heads are gonna roll, roll, roll, roll. All right. I could do this a lot of different ways. I could explain the strategy of Trump and why it's so absolutely genius. I could break down the lightning speed of it. I can chronicle what's going on and I'm going to try to do it all here. But hundreds of billions of certified fraud in less than or at about 24 hours has come out. The federal bureaucrats at the treasury quit. Others refused to get rid of the codes to the federal treasury database of payments going back because they digitized them going back over a hundred years and the last 30, 40, they've got detailed down to the penny and they know exactly who got what and where. And it is a free for all of crime.

Dan (23:01)

So obviously this isn't true. But Alex is reporting on what it feels like Musk is doing. Based on the various misleading Twitter posts that Alex has seen about it, he's covering the vibe of social media as opposed to anything that's actually real. Musk and Doge absolutely didn't uncover and report billions in criminal spending, but it really feels like it for the folks who desperately need to feel like they are. Because if those people don't have that feeling, they might realize that they're supporting a tyrannical takeover of the government led by an unelected billionaire. And the people that he's deciding to have access to very sensitive public information.

Jordan (23:39)

Yeah, I mean, it is like to a certain extent, I don't disagree with Alex when he says you are watch things burn in front of your eyes. I think maybe people are thinking like, oh, they'll just get rid of the globalist parts.

Dan (23:53)

Right.

Jordan (23:54)

It does not feel like they're interested in just the globalist parts.

Dan (23:57)

No, it's, it's like, you know, there's some fun things about like, oh, they'll cut the, you know, the war and they'll cut all this spending on the military. No, no, they're not.

Jordan (24:11)

No, that's going to be fine. Yeah, they'll be fine.

Dan (24:14)

They're gonna cut your Social Security and your grandparents and you down the road are going to be straight fucked when it comes to surviving.

Jordan (24:24)

Yeah, in, in, in totalitarian style states generally, when you cut the military's budget, they have guns already.

Dan (24:34)

Oh, and Musk makes a lot of money on government military esque contracts.

Jordan (24:39)

Right, right, right. But when you cut the people's money, they don't have anything to do and you have all the guns with the military because you've highly funded them. So you got it.

Dan (24:49)

It's, it's the path that you don't. Alex does not want people to understand that this is the path that a lot of this is going down.

Jordan (24:57)

Fairly predictable. Yeah.

Dan (24:58)

And I think that that clip itself is really illustrative and helpful because Alex plays this music and he does a hedgehog on a row.

Jordan (25:07)

Yeah.

Dan (25:07)

Because that's about creating this feeling and he's perpetuating this feeling that's based on what he feels like things are happening on social media and that is so much more important than getting into the details. And like what is Musk actually doing? What are these things? You don't, you don't want to make the argument that you support all of this shit. Yeah, no, you want to rock out to heads are going to roll.

Jordan (25:29)

You were totally, you're like, okay, yeah, we're chopping King's heads off. Got it. Aristocrats got it. Who's that guy? Why are you chopping his head? Oh, shit. Everybody I know is getting their head chopped off. This revolution is not going the way I thought it was going to go.

Dan (25:43)

Right.

Jordan (25:43)

Yeah.

Dan (25:43)

You got to subvert the feeling. The people realize what they're doing.

Jordan (25:48)

Yeah.

Dan (25:49)

So Alex talks a little bit about what he wants people to think Musk's team is doing.

Alex Jones (25:54)

One of the biggest takeaways we have all the documents right here, is that for decades, even when funding ended, they would never even end the funding and would just keep paying whatever forever. And you've got Democrats, Senators, Republican senators, House members, foreign current on these boards of NGO non profits getting hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars a year, in some cases billions per organization. And then they've already started spot checking the actual numbers of whatever the aid was. And in most cases it's less than 12% ever actually went to whatever the so called aid was. You know, you'll see people like Senator Paul every year with his Festivus list of the worst pork barrel. And it's big news. This is a billion. And I mean, I'm not exaggerating, I'm just dead wrecking a billion times crazier. If you think one of the things they use as example last week, 50 million in condoms to Gaza or 15 million for shrimp on treadmills, that, that's real. If you're a new Viewer, just type it in. I'm not joking. I know it doesn't sound real. Believe me, I understand if you think that's bad. Ladies and gentlemen, this is mass, total criminal activity. And they're just releasing it all. It's over.

Dan (27:33)

So what is it like? Alex uses these kind of shorthand things to discuss government spending, with two examples are shrimps on treadmills and condoms to Gaza. These are the examples he uses because they're supposed to elicit a reaction from the audience that something like, I can't believe that's where our money is going. But he's also specifically using these as examples of things that were, like, uncovered. These are the, like, these aren't the things that Doge is uncovering. Right, but this is supposed to be a stand in for those specifics that Alex isn't giving. That's a problem though, because neither of these things were secrets that were covered up, ever. It was all totally public stuff available to anyone who was interested. The shrimp on treadmills thing, Alex said, is a $15 million situation. That was a half million dollar grant that went to the College of Charleston, South Carolina, and a biologist named Lou Bennett. Why did Alex exaggerate that by 30 times? Why is that?

Jordan (28:30)

Why didn't he bring up how Lou Bennett managed to get all this funding for himself? That's pretty cool, honestly.

Dan (28:36)

Well, also, shrimp being on a treadmill is a small part of the research that was facilitated by this grant, but it naturally creates a funny image in your head, which is why it's used as a meme by the right wing forces that want to stop government spending. This was a scandal from 2011. And the actual study had to do with some important issues like the effects of bacteria exposure on crustaceans, which are a major part of agriculture, the country. You can say that this part of the research looks silly, like shrimp being on a treadmill. It is a funny picture, or you could say that it lacks practical application. But a lot of science looks that way to people who don't understand what the actual variables that are being examined by these studies are. The $50 million for condoms to Gaza thing, that just wasn't true. It was a lie that Musk promoted and was repeated by the press secretary until it was debunked. And then Musk said, quote, some of the things I say will be incorrect and should be corrected. Nobody's gonna bat a thousand. I mean, any, you know, we will make mistakes, but we'll act quickly to correct any mistakes. So there's no real spot Checking of fraud that's going on here. There's a lie about condoms going to Gaza and an almost 15 year old mischaracterization of a study on shrimp that's being used to attack government spending because public investment helps the public and it hurts billionaires. And that's the side that Alex is on.

Jordan (29:54)

Yeah.

Dan (29:54)

Yeah. So, like, I think it's interesting that you. That you see, like we talk about. We'll talk about this in a proxy. Yeah, I'm gonna talk about, like, go to Musk's Twitter if you want to see all the copious examples of all the fraud they're uncovering. But I'm gonna bring up condoms and Gaza and shrimp on treadmills because that's the feeling that I want to articulate to you.

Jordan (30:17)

Okay.

Dan (30:18)

That's the feeling you need to have.

Jordan (30:19)

Do you remember, I don't know if this. Maybe this never happened. I feel like in my lifetime. There was a guy who went on TV and had commercials and he was dressed in a dollar sign suit.

Dan (30:30)

Yeah, yeah.

Jordan (30:30)

About government grants. Right.

Dan (30:31)

The Riddler.

Jordan (30:32)

Right. That was real though, right?

Dan (30:34)

Yeah.

Jordan (30:35)

Okay, why don't. Here's what I'd do. PR stunt murder that guy, right? Get him in his whole, like. I mean, maybe you don't actually have to murder him, but I mean, we're in. We're in fucking murder town, usa. Why not? You know? But we get him, he's like, oh, you can. You can have government money. And then Elon Musk, like strangles him or maybe like puts him in a bathtub, you know? And then that's a signal that you can't get government grants anymore. You know what I'm saying?

Dan (31:02)

Business is closed for the Riddler.

Jordan (31:04)

And then they burn the. Because he was selling a book that was like, how to get government grants. We burn all those. Like the Nazi book burning. I think this is a good PR stunt for America.

Dan (31:13)

I think when you are forced to say, like, the Nazi book burning, you might be on the wrong track.

Jordan (31:18)

I don't understand.

Dan (31:19)

I think you understand you might be advancing something that's not a great idea.

Jordan (31:23)

Okay. Maybe there are better examples of people burning books.

Dan (31:26)

I wonder.

Jordan (31:27)

Don't think there are better.

Dan (31:30)

Someone has to have done an analysis on how much actually.

Jordan (31:35)

How much he actually got through that.

Dan (31:37)

Well, I'm sure he sold a number of books.

Jordan (31:40)

Sure.

Dan (31:40)

But I mean, in terms of actual grants that ended up being got by people who got his books. I bet it's a tiny amount.

Jordan (31:47)

Yeah, but what if it was a massive Success. And we just didn't know about it. That would be such a. I would. I would love so much if there was like an Errol Morris documentary that was about how secretly 20% of all government grant funding given to universities during this time was purely because of a guy wearing a money suit. Yeah, that'd be great.

Dan (32:06)

Now here's a question that I think might be a Mandela effect that I don't know the answer to.

Jordan (32:09)

All right.

Dan (32:10)

Do you think that that guy predates the Riddler? Like not as a character, but.

Jordan (32:15)

Right.

Dan (32:16)

The movie.

Alex Jones (32:16)

Oh, John Murray.

Jordan (32:18)

The movie. The. Jim. Do you mean Batman Forever when Jim Harry played the Riddler?

Alex Jones (32:22)

Yeah.

Dan (32:22)

Which came first?

Jordan (32:24)

Batman Forever, I would believe was 97. I don't know because of the McDonald's mugs.

Dan (32:30)

Sure.

Jordan (32:30)

I may. That may be my entire memory of all of maybe 1997.

Dan (32:35)

Tell me it's 97, I'll believe it. I don't know for sure.

Jordan (32:38)

I want to say that he does predate 97.

Dan (32:41)

I think he does too. But it could be a Mandela effect.

Jordan (32:43)

I think I remember him during like the late Clinton years. You know what I'm saying?

Dan (32:47)

Yeah, yeah. But who knows? We may never know.

Jordan (32:51)

Oh, boy.

Dan (32:52)

So I think that if Musk would just wanted to go on a crusade against that guy, I don't know if I would care. I think it would do a lot less public harm.

Jordan (33:00)

Sure. Yeah.

Dan (33:01)

He wants to role play as Batman.

Jordan (33:03)

Yeah. It'd be metaphorical. We wouldn't have to do as much like real stuff. We could have a nice little. It's like a performance art piece.

Dan (33:10)

Sure. Or like government. Like the Make a Wish kid who wanted to pretend to be Batman. You must could do that if you wanted.

Jordan (33:16)

Absolutely.

Dan (33:18)

So there's something very exciting that Alex says on this, this, this episode that made me feel like maybe Jerome Corsi had information that was gonna get him killed.

Jordan (33:29)

Okay.

Dan (33:30)

It's that kind of a tease doing.

Alex Jones (33:33)

So you tried to kill Trump twice, try to destroy his family. Went after all his supporters, his prominent ones, putting right here. Oh, I'm not going to talk about this till tomorrow, but let's just say the Trump administration released something to us that we just got yesterday. Oh, I don't think our enemies are going to be too happy.

Jordan (34:01)

But.

Alex Jones (34:02)

But see, that news is minor. So it just goes over here on the side for now.

Jordan (34:08)

Don't use that voice. That one's gross, baby.

Alex Jones (34:13)

Because none of us that have been persecuted by this evil system are going to have any problems anymore once this is completed and there's no turning it back now. So. Yeah, I. I feel like a trillion pounds been lifted off of me.

Dan (34:33)

So Trump has given Alex some kind of secret information that provides him with a great amount of relief, and he's gonna talk about it on the show tomorrow, which I think when. When you, you know, you're responding to him making that voice, it's because, like, you're faking all this.

Jordan (34:48)

Yeah, yeah.

Dan (34:51)

You do it. Something silly is a performance.

Jordan (34:54)

If I'm. If I'm Trump and Alex is doing his stuff, I write him a, like, get out of jail free card. Right.

Dan (35:02)

In cram.

Jordan (35:03)

Yeah, absolutely. And just be like, here you go. One free one, you know, and then just leave me alone. Sure, that'd be cool. I feel like that would work.

Dan (35:12)

Yeah, I think I might. Yeah. I don't know. I. I'm conflicted between, like, I'll just give him some fake shit or just, like, if I. I promise you I won't be mad if you just make up whatever you want.

Jordan (35:29)

Right, right, right.

Dan (35:30)

Just go ahead.

Jordan (35:32)

Go, go nuts, buddy.

Dan (35:33)

I'm not going to come down on you if you just talk shit.

Jordan (35:35)

Just an official writ of bullshit. You are the lead bullshitter. We. We just, as a society, anoint you the guy who can say whatever the fuck he wants.

Dan (35:46)

Yeah. Maybe Roger told him that or something.

Jordan (35:48)

That's possible.

Dan (35:49)

He's got. He's got his invitation to the White House. That's going to. That dinner is going to happen any day now. So Alex talks a little bit more about this and implies that, like, he now has evidence that he was targeted by the Deep State.

Alex Jones (36:04)

Oh, and now they've opened a criminal investigation out of the District of Columbia on Chucky Schumer. That criminal investigation was announced last night. And then Trump's going to start releasing all the secret intelligence agency and FBI investigations that have gone on against the American people, including me. We've already been given the first tranche of information.

Jordan (36:33)

Oh, no, not a trash.

Alex Jones (36:37)

That's fast. I didn't expect 12 days, that's yesterday into this. We're 13 now. I didn't even call, ask for anything, nothing. I said let him move to the big stuff first. Secure the Republic. But I'm really impressed because when all this comes out, and it's coming out right now, the Deep State's all going to prison. Oh, and who's involved helping go through all the data? Elon Musk.

Jordan (37:14)

Oh.

Alex Jones (37:18)

Oh, thank you lucky stars for that guy.

Dan (37:20)

To quote Elon Musk, some of the things that I say will be incorrect and should be correct. I think that Alex is like, this is a bad idea. He's now creating a responsibility for himself to provide documents that prove all this stuff.

Jordan (37:35)

A tranche of that.

Dan (37:36)

Because he has them and Trump gave them to him in order. Like he's setting up a bar for himself to have to clear. Yeah, that's unnecessary.

Jordan (37:44)

He doesn't need to now. Nope.

Dan (37:46)

Because this is gonna be a dud.

Jordan (37:48)

He doesn't need the documents anymore.

Dan (37:50)

Nah.

Jordan (37:51)

Like, arguably he never did.

Dan (37:53)

No.

Jordan (37:54)

But what's important is that he had. He had to have the illusion of having the documents. And that is no longer necessary.

Dan (38:01)

Not really.

Jordan (38:02)

No. So just. Just be like, Trump called me and said this.

Dan (38:06)

Yeah. A little bird told me. You know, they told me about all these documents and the investigations are underway. And all this. That's all you need.

Jordan (38:13)

You are an oral history now.

Dan (38:15)

Now he has ownership and possession of these documents that if he doesn't reveal, he can't prove his claim.

Jordan (38:24)

Yep.

Dan (38:25)

And it's a pretty important claim. So. Great.

Jordan (38:30)

Have fun opening that safe, Geraldo.

Dan (38:32)

Or taking the chip out of the homeless guy's arm, you know. Great. Enjoy.

Jordan (38:36)

Yep.

Dan (38:37)

So Alex reads some headlines about old Elon Musk. He's the king of the world.

Jordan (38:42)

Jesus Christ.

Alex Jones (38:42)

Elon Musk announces DOGE has uncovered the payment approval officers. The treasury never denied a payment in their entire career. This is extremely concerning. Yeah. Total fraud. I mean, of all the video clips of this. US aid is evil. Yeah. That's an understatement. Says Elon Musk.

Dan (39:08)

This show is too focused on Elon Musk. Alex is over committed in a way that comes off a bit desperate and uninteresting. He seems like somebody who's like, this is my only real shot. This guy has a lot of fucking money.

Jordan (39:23)

Yeah.

Dan (39:24)

And he seems nuts. I might be able to, once all the dust settles. He could create a foundation that I could end up living off or something.

Jordan (39:35)

Yeah.

Dan (39:35)

Like, he could be my parachute. And I think that the way this feels a little bit.

Jordan (39:41)

I. I'm beginning to get the feeling that, like, we stopped listening to Infowars and turned on, like, I don't know, the world's number one NSync fan club. And it just. But Elon is now the head of NSync.

Dan (39:57)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. It does have that feeling.

Jordan (39:59)

Yeah.

Dan (40:00)

Things have changed a bit in a way that, like, is very Elon focused.

Jordan (40:04)

Can you believe what Justin's wearing today? Yeah, I sure can.

Dan (40:08)

Elon has frosted tips. Ooh. So all of this, too. Like this obsession with Elon Musk, it comes at the expense of critical thinking skills. Like, Musk has said that these payment approval officers in the Treasury Department, they've gone their whole careers without rejecting a payment. And this is a scandal that Doge has uncovered. But you should ask yourself the question, what do these people do? Is it their job to choose whether to approve or deny payment of a bill? As it turns out, that's not their job. The role of the Treasury Department payment officers is to reliably dispense payment for the spending that's approved by other bodies of the government. Determining whether or not things are cool or not. That's another part of the government's job.

Jordan (40:50)

Like.

Dan (40:50)

Like, this is the accounts payable department. What people with more expertise on the subject have said is that Trump is trying to take over this area of the government and distort what it does in order to just not pay our bills. That fits with his general business strategies that he's used in the past, and now he's trying to run the country that way. Just don't pay people. They want to use the treasury as a block on dispensing funds that Congress has approved as a way of tyrannically taking over the ability of our country to spend money on things that people want. But the big power interests don't. Like, like Social Security. It's all very transparent. And someone who is the character that Alex has pretended to be for the last 30 years should be so able to see through this. And the fact that he doesn't should be an indication to everybody who might be tricked by him that his career has been a joke up till this point.

Jordan (41:41)

Yeah.

Dan (41:41)

He's been pretending to oppose these power systems that he actually just wants to use for his own benefit.

Jordan (41:47)

Yeah.

Dan (41:48)

And for the benefit of. Of the rich.

Jordan (41:51)

Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you think of government in one way as, say, like, just the. The engine by which we collectively pool our money together and use it. Right. That's just the. The tool is the government for us to use our money, theoretically for our collective betterment.

Dan (42:11)

Yeah.

Jordan (42:12)

It is not good. Whenever we kind of tend to forget that it's just them. It's like our money, and they're the way we're. We're spending it. And for him to recognize that, like, if I just control whether or not they pay for stuff, that's probably more important than, like, laws, that's bad for all of us.

Dan (42:31)

Yeah, yeah.

Jordan (42:31)

Because money is probably more important than, like, laws these days.

Dan (42:35)

If I Can. If I can get away with just having, like, people block the ability of anything to function.

Alex Jones (42:44)

Yeah.

Dan (42:44)

Then who cares what the will of the people is to.

Jordan (42:48)

To. You know what? You know what? Let's do it. To do it. All right. Anyone who can destroy a thing can control a thing. What you gonna do?

Dan (42:59)

The Treasury Department.

Jordan (43:01)

The Treasury Department is the spice. Yes.

Dan (43:04)

So Alex has touched on Zelinsky a little bit. He talks a bit more about that story that he. He kind of touched on earlier.

Jordan (43:11)

Right.

Alex Jones (43:12)

Less than 24 hours after Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency got into the US treasury computers, they have gone into a complete limbing route, running off the edge of the political cliff. Cliff. And they're just everywhere turning on each other right now. I mean, they are in panic mode, running for the exits. And Zelensky was put in by the west and the CIA. And then it's canceled over a year ago. Elections and banned even friendly parties and taken over all the media and banned the Orthodox Church. They always say they've banned a major denomination. No, it's the big one. The guy's a dictator. He's been refusing to listen to Trump and now all of a sudden he's like, oh, yeah, I want to come to the table. I want to. And by the way, I didn't steal the money. 58% of the money never came. So you need to investigate that. That's not me. I got a bunch of other examples of it.

Dan (44:18)

This is just a lie. The point Zelensky made was that the money that was appropriated by Congress within the five bills that provided aid to Ukraine, the portion. There's a portion of that money that doesn't actually go to Ukraine. And when people are using these, like, top line numbers that are so high is like, this isn't like, that wasn't money that went to us.

Jordan (44:39)

Yeah.

Dan (44:39)

So some of the money is appropriated to supporting other countries in the region. And a lot of it goes to US Weapons manufacturers who produce munitions that then go to Ukraine. That money is spent supporting Ukraine in the war, but technically it doesn't go to them. Dipshit. Social media users were putting forward the story that Zelensky was trying to distance himself from a money laundering scandal that Trump and Musk were clearly uncovering. And now Alex is just repeating that as news. In reality, Zelenskyy didn't say anything of the sort. It's just a lie that's facilitated by social media's ability to corrupt and oversimplify information and then repackage it and That's. That's Alex's job.

Jordan (45:17)

Yeah. And I mean, I think arguably, if I'm. If I'm a country at war. Right. And I hear that, like, the leader of the country is money laundering for the war. That's not really money laundering for me. That's just like, he's doing a good job. Right. He's getting money for the war.

Dan (45:35)

You mean, were you to be, like, a person in Ukraine.

Jordan (45:38)

Yeah.

Dan (45:39)

You would not be swayed by this accusation.

Jordan (45:42)

Oh, I'm sorry. He got more money for us to continue to live. Oh, a scandal. Yeah. I'd be fine with that. Go for it, man.

Dan (45:49)

Sure.

Jordan (45:50)

It's a scandal if you're like, I ran conjuring when nobody's at war.

Dan (45:55)

Sure. You know, and I think that Alex does probably not want to recognize that there's no way that Musk hasn't profited off this.

Jordan (46:02)

Totally. Yeah.

Dan (46:03)

So, like, I just think he's playing a stupid game.

Jordan (46:06)

Yeah.

Dan (46:07)

And it's. It's at the expense of, you know, people's lives.

Jordan (46:11)

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, man, one of the things that we should all really be concerned about is that we know from what we can see, Elon Musk is making absolutely terrible decisions left and right for his businesses, for himself, for life, for all of us. Right. But he's still making more money. He is not receiving any negative consequences for behaving what is clearly insane behavior. He's only getting richer.

Dan (46:38)

We should consider this.

Jordan (46:39)

Something has gone far off the rails.

Dan (46:41)

We should think about this a lot.

Jordan (46:42)

That's. At the very least, he should be getting, like, a little bit poorer. You know, like, if you. If you took. If you bought a company.

Dan (46:49)

Yeah.

Jordan (46:49)

And then ran it into the ground, people will be like, ah, that made him at least a little bit poorer. Right. But then it didn't.

Dan (46:56)

It's a lost leader.

Jordan (46:57)

That's not good.

Dan (46:58)

Yeah.

Jordan (46:58)

That's not good.

Dan (46:59)

Nope. So Alex plays that clip of Zelinsky.

Jordan (47:04)

Yeah.

Dan (47:05)

And reads the subtitles over it. Now, if you. If you pay attention to the way that this goes, you can see, like, a real difference in approach that Alex has towards Zelinsky on the one hand and Putin on the other.

Jordan (47:17)

Weird.

Alex Jones (47:19)

Look, when I hear. And I heard before and today we hear from the United States of America that America gave Ukraine hundreds of billions. 170 billion, to be more precise. That's what the exact figure sounded like. Which was supported, are voted by Congress, etc. Look, as the president of a warring country, I tell you, we received just over 75 billion. That is 100 million of these. 177 billion or 200. Some people even say you've never received. And this is important because we are talking about specific things because we got it in the money. With the money. We got 70 something billion worth of it. There is training, there is additional transport. There are not only pieces of weapons and prices of weapons. There were humanitarian programs, social accept. But when they say the Ukrainian during The war received 200 billion to support the army, etc. This is not true. I don't know where all the money is. And he goes on in the full interview to talk about, you know, investigate it. It's not him. So that's throwing his accomplices under the bus. Now the full video watch at your leisure of Putin is up on infowars.com Putin European elites will stand at the master's heel and wag their tails gently. And he goes on to say that Trump knows where all the bodies is buried and is moving very quickly. The globalists are basically going to be defeated. And I agree with that statement. People say, well, whoa, you're with Putin. No, Putin's under the same globalist attack Americans are. He makes that point. He goes, you know, Trump does not want to chop your son's penises off. He actually says that he doesn't. And I don't want to chop your son's penises off either. So, you know the cult that runs government that are a bunch of demons and pedophiles and vampires. He says that in other interviews recently. I'm kind of throwing in a gestalt. Are done. People are sick of them all over the world. This is a worldwide phenomenon. It's over. People go, my God, Putin sounds just like Alex Jones. It's because we're looking at the same thing. This is not political spin. This is what's going on.

Dan (49:54)

There's a stalt he's putting together of vampires and demons.

Jordan (50:00)

Gestat.

Dan (50:01)

Yeah. Cool, man. I don't think anyone has ever had. I think we've been pretty clear for a number of years that you and Putin are on the same page.

Alex Jones (50:10)

Yep.

Dan (50:10)

Yeah, no shit. I'm dumb. You have one leader in a conflict who's saying, hey, the number is a little bit misleading. We didn't get like $200 billion or whatever. We're at war. We're talking about a specific thing here.

Jordan (50:28)

Yeah.

Dan (50:29)

Let's be clear. Let's not use this to, you know, antagonize and exaggerate things.

Jordan (50:36)

Right.

Dan (50:37)

And Alex is like, fuck this. Guy's admitting to money laundering.

Alex Jones (50:40)

Yeah.

Dan (50:40)

And then on the other hand, you have Putin being like, the dog will wag its tail at the master. He's like, this guy fucking rules.

Jordan (50:47)

This guy's great.

Dan (50:49)

He's talking like a crazy.

Jordan (50:50)

And super villains are cool.

Dan (50:52)

Yeah. So that's. That's where Alex is at.

Jordan (50:55)

Yeah. That's not good. You know, like, here's what I say. I guess. I guess this is how it's gonna be. This is how these people are gonna do it. But it should be public that they can no longer be fans of the movie Red Dawn. They can never appreciate the movie Red dawn ever again. They should never speak about the remake's name aloud. I don't acknowledge the remake.

Dan (51:19)

Whoa.

Jordan (51:20)

Because it's not. It's not true to the. The message of the movie.

Dan (51:23)

Okay.

Jordan (51:24)

Which is Wolverines.

Dan (51:25)

That is the message of the movie.

Jordan (51:27)

That is the main message of the movie. And we're either all Wolverines or we're not.

Dan (51:32)

You know what? I don't know if I've seen Red Dawn.

Jordan (51:34)

You should see Red Dawn.

Dan (51:35)

Yeah. I just. I know it from, like, cultural osmosis.

Jordan (51:40)

Sure, sure, sure.

Dan (51:41)

Yeah. I don't know if I've ever actually watched that movie.

Jordan (51:44)

Movie. It's surprisingly affecting at time for how ridiculous it is. Like, if you don't focus on that, like, what are the Russians doing? Just taking over, like, small town. What are you guys doing there?

Dan (51:56)

Strategically important.

Jordan (51:58)

Sure it is. Who cares?

Dan (52:00)

Yeah. I don't know. I had a good run with the Matrix. Maybe I'll check in on it. So Trump obviously is attacking immigration and immigrant rights and such. ICE is running amok.

Jordan (52:12)

Sure.

Dan (52:12)

And all that. But, you know, some people have protested. There's some protests that have gone on.

Jordan (52:19)

Sure.

Dan (52:20)

And Alex has an aversion to Trump cracking down on these protests.

Jordan (52:25)

Okay.

Dan (52:25)

But it's not because of the First Amendment.

Jordan (52:27)

It's because of false flaggery.

Dan (52:28)

Yes.

Jordan (52:29)

Yeah. It's a trap. It's a trap.

Dan (52:31)

So he explains that.

Jordan (52:32)

Okay.

Alex Jones (52:33)

And then I'm gonna get into what's happening with the border and the illegal alien protest being funded by USAID publicly and what they're planning there, which is also another enemy attack. And Tom Holman, the borders are very smart. And not go mess with these big demonstrations, even though they're pulling down American flags and beating people up and blocking traffic. And as I predicted, they would start. And it's getting more violent. More violent, More violent. It's the local police's job to respond. And it's Hurting them, it's hurting the left that this is all going on. Don't interrupt your enemy when they're destroying themselves, as Napoleon said.

Jordan (53:14)

And ironic.

Alex Jones (53:15)

It's going to get more violent and more violent trying to get the feds to come out. So the CIA network, just not the whole CIA now, but the. But the bad stay behind network at a truck bomb or it'll be German intelligence or something, because they've used them before. Bomb Oklahoma City to bomb them with a truck bomb or a mass shooting. And so that I told you when, when Homan doesn't take the bait, then they're going to start burning the cities. And that'll be in a few months. But they're looking for the right pretext to do it. Now that a cop does something wrong or something, we just keep exposing it, keep laying it out, keep talking about it. And then it does border on Machiavelli to not run in with the feds and stop it. But it's a trap. And that's why I'm just completely honest about it. This is my view. But they're going to get very violent soon. They'll have antivouts shooting people in the head soon in Los Angeles and Austin, everywhere else, like they've done before, to try to really elicit the response. And at that point, there'll be feds watching and they'll just go arrest them at home. There'll be professors and leftists and, you know, congressman's kids and stuff like that. We've caught them before.

Dan (54:36)

But, sorry, the fake contract.

Alex Jones (54:38)

The Trump administration sends ICE or federal riot police or anything into these things. You're walking into a trap. And I don't think they need me to tell them that, that what I'm seeing from the administration is really smart, really dead on. But when they really start burning the cities, the blue cities are going to stand down so it gets out of control. And then at that point, Trump has to explain it's a trap, explain how this is a setup and tell the mayors and the police chiefs if you don't go, stop this now. We know you're aiding and abetting in NGOs. We know you're involved. You're gonna be indicted for trying to lure the feds in there to start a civil war. And then Trump will have to ask the governors and put it on. This is constitutional. Go in there with your state police and take over the city and county, because when they don't do their job, that's what happens. And then governors like Newsom are Going to try to refuse. But you saw how he started flipping under Trump's pressure. So, see, now that we have the public awake and understanding how this works, they won't be able to stand when Trump goes, I'm not walking into your trap. Stop it. And within 24 hours, they'll have to go, stop it. And then that'll still burn them. Everybody go, oh, you could have stopped it. You didn't see how you get them.

Dan (56:06)

See? You see, Jordan? Do you see? You get it?

Jordan (56:08)

I absolutely do not see.

Dan (56:10)

I will answer three questions.

Jordan (56:12)

All right? Why would you burn your own home down?

Dan (56:17)

Because you're mad.

Jordan (56:21)

Okay.

Dan (56:21)

And the NGOs told you to. That's it.

Jordan (56:23)

All right. There's two factions within the CIA.

Dan (56:26)

Oh, yeah. Probably more than that.

Jordan (56:28)

So, like, you go to work every day. What's that like?

Dan (56:32)

I mean, it's probably tense.

Jordan (56:34)

It would have to be tense, right?

Dan (56:35)

Sure.

Jordan (56:36)

It can't just be like, everybody's very collegial while at the same time secretly trying to tear the country apart.

Dan (56:41)

Well, and you're in the CIA, so you're probably spying on each other. You know, who's on what side.

Jordan (56:46)

I feel like it's not all exciting at the CIA. I feel like there's a lot of people who are just like. They're just, like, doing. There are CIA accountants and stuff.

Dan (56:56)

Yes.

Jordan (56:56)

So if you've got to stay behind network. Do you also have a CIA accountant, stay behind network?

Dan (57:01)

Kind of have to have someone in each department you do behind, or else, you know.

Jordan (57:06)

Yeah, you lose.

Dan (57:07)

You lose a little bit of the function.

Jordan (57:09)

So how do you. Yeah, I mean, like, how do you get anything done with. With both sides of the CIA fighting each other?

Dan (57:15)

I think it really would come down to, do you have someone in hr? Right, Right. I mean, like, if you have a stay behind person in hr.

Jordan (57:23)

Yeah.

Dan (57:23)

Then you could just fire all the patriots or whatever. And if you don't have someone there, then you have no ability. You gotta. You gotta take over hr.

Jordan (57:33)

Here's what I feel like. I feel like we're in a situation where when I'm watching a movie, I go, I need to turn off the stuff so I can enjoy the movie. But then in real life, I go, you can't do that. There would. You just have to talk to a guy you would have to talk to. If you did that, then we would. We should have a scene where you have to talk to, like, a group of people and they're just, like, really disappointed in you, and that's it. You Know, like. But they don't do that in real life. Alex just tells the story of the CIA having multiple factions and not one where it's like, like, buddy, now we have to call in the fucking federal union guys. We have to bring them in here. You need to have your representative in the office while me and your boss talk to you about whether or not you're on the wrong CIA side.

Dan (58:18)

Yeah, yeah. It's dramatic. He has a fun plot line. And I think that obviously that what you're bringing up is true, but the point of why he's telling that story is to make people opposed to protesters who are going to be pushing back against things like mass deportations, against stripping people of Social Security benefits.

Jordan (58:51)

Sure.

Dan (58:51)

That kind of stuff is what's going to elicit these large reactions from the public that Alex is saying are going to be based for Trump to come in with the federal forces. He's trying to invalidate the act of protesting in the minds of the audience.

Jordan (59:08)

Sure, sure.

Dan (59:09)

So that, that's really what I think is more important than the incoherence and stupidity of his. His storyline. It's the purpose that it serves.

Jordan (59:17)

That's fair. That's fair.

Dan (59:19)

And I think he'd have a different. I think he has had a different take on things like the Bundy ranch.

Jordan (59:26)

Yeah. And the problem here is, like, what happens? So then what happens whenever Chicagoans don't burn down Chicago because we live here? You know, like, you've got this whole story where, okay, so we leave them alone and their protest, we don't bother their protests. So then they've got to go crazy on us to get, to get attention. So then they have to burn down Chicago. And you're like, hold on, why are we burning down Chicago?

Dan (59:49)

Well, I think it's because Alex knows that there aren't like these NWO and Wolf Pack versions of the CIA.

Jordan (59:58)

Right.

Dan (59:59)

But that there are a lot of accelerating racist types who might actually do that bombing of a protest, maybe. So that, like, part of the storyline can be fulfilled by another agent as opposed to some breakaway stay behind CIA network so that part of the story can be fulfilled and the rest of the narrative play out how Alex wants. Even if protesters don't end up burning down their own cities.

Jordan (60:28)

Sure.

Dan (60:29)

I don't know. I think it's all just gross. And he should say that protesters can protest because of the Constitution, not because it's a trap.

Jordan (60:39)

It's very simple. It's very simple.

Dan (60:41)

So there's some other economic stuff that's going on Trump's talking tariffs and whatnot.

Jordan (60:48)

Okay.

Dan (60:48)

And Alex has some dumb takes on that Trumpet leaked.

Alex Jones (60:54)

Oh, he was gonna do the tariffs in March. So the big banks, BlackRock and brokerage firms went out, hedge funds went out and did their put options in March, April and May. Then Saturday they go, open up, sorry, it's today. Signs the orders. And now they're having to do them now. And it just totally reveals what they're doing. And there's a lot of ways to mitigate that by exposing it and the public not buying it. But Kirk Elliott's really smart economists. I agree with him. Him, they're going to tank the stock market really bad in the next few months, maybe even sooner.

Dan (61:29)

Oh, yeah, that's convenient for your gold sponsor to promote.

Jordan (61:32)

It helps.

Dan (61:33)

So also, people don't need to be part of a conspiracy in order to think that it's a good idea to bet against the stock market if Trump does the things he's announced he's going to do. Even members of Trump's cabinet and his biggest supporters have said things like, there's going to be some pain if he does this stuff. But they just pretend that that leads to a better place after the pain. Pain, because it does for them, the super rich. For the rest of us, the pain continues. Markets like a little bit of predictability. Investment isn't the same thing as gambling. So a measure of stability is needed for things to work how they're supposed to. Trump is acting like a giant ball of uncertainty, saying he's putting on these huge tariffs and then delaying it and then saying he's going to put them in. But bigger, it's not hospitable to investment. So that makes some people a bit more likely to want to have some put options in there. It's just. It makes sense, it's wise. So I don't know. I don't. I think that Alex is dealing with cause and effect.

Jordan (62:30)

Interestingly here, I would say that if I was. If I was going to prepare a narrative, you don't even need to worry about the gold salesman. The way things are going, if you just let a lunatic in charge of the economy, it's probably going to crash.

Dan (62:48)

Sure.

Jordan (62:48)

Yeah.

Dan (62:48)

It's gonna be bad for a lot of people.

Jordan (62:51)

I mean, remember when we've let lunatics in charge of the economy before it's worked. Hmm.

Dan (62:58)

Yeah. We'll see how it plays out.

Jordan (62:59)

Okay.

Dan (63:00)

So Alex is. He's like, they're putting all these put options and shorting the stock market and what have you all Because Trump just wants to put some tariffs in.

Jordan (63:09)

Right. What an asshole.

Dan (63:10)

Tariffs are a normal, healthy, good, basic thing.

Jordan (63:13)

Sure.

Dan (63:14)

Except, like, a minute later, Alex says that they're financial violence.

Jordan (63:18)

Oh, great.

Alex Jones (63:19)

This demolishes that whole system, and it is very aggressive. It is very financially violent, but it's a revolution. So you really want to blow the hell out of the New World Order. You want to destroy their system and really flood the country with industry and jobs and innovation and cheap energy and grow our way out of the fact that they had us ready for collapse. It's going to be messy. So this is extremely bold, extremely well thought out, and the key to it all is lightning fast, brutal implementation to keep the bad guys off balance. And again, my assessment in the first week was Trump was doing 100% of what I thought he should, and I couldn't believe he was doing such a great job by a week and a half in. I said, He's 200% what he. What I would have thought. It's like double my expectations. The last 24 hours, it's 10 times what I thought he could do.

Dan (64:18)

A thousand out of 100.

Jordan (64:19)

That's so many.

Dan (64:20)

So good.

Jordan (64:21)

He's escalating too fast. It's only been 13 days.

Dan (64:24)

But also the way Alex works with numbers, he should be in charge of the economy. He knows numbers.

Jordan (64:29)

No, no. Inflation is going to get us way out of control.

Dan (64:32)

So, like, I mean, like, this is. He's saying that what Trump wants to do is revolutionary financial violence in a promise of. It's gonna be better on the other side of that messiness.

Jordan (64:45)

Right.

Dan (64:45)

You know, it's not gonna be messy for. It's not gonna be messy for the really rich.

Jordan (64:50)

It is strange how that works.

Dan (64:51)

Yeah, it's gonna be messy for you.

Jordan (64:53)

It is very strange how that works.

Dan (64:55)

Yeah. That's the untold piece of this. And then it doesn't get not messy for you afterwards. It gets not messy for the really rich who's able to buy.

Jordan (65:04)

You just get adapted to it.

Alex Jones (65:05)

Yeah.

Jordan (65:06)

You get adapted to the mess and you go, well, this is better than no mess, I guess.

Dan (65:10)

And then if you want to go protest, it's a trap.

Jordan (65:12)

Yeah, that makes sense. I have a question for you, because I think this might be a deep language question. Can something be both extremely bold and extremely well thought out?

Dan (65:27)

Yeah.

Jordan (65:29)

Interesting. How so?

Dan (65:33)

Well, that's a good.

Alex Jones (65:36)

You know what?

Dan (65:36)

Maybe you can't.

Jordan (65:37)

That's what I'm saying. Because the moment you go, well, you can do something bold that is extremely well Thought out, then you go, well, if it's extremely well thought out, it's really not that bold, is it?

Dan (65:47)

I guess it can be if there's no other option.

Jordan (65:52)

But is it bold? If there's no other option, you're just acquiescing or you're acquiescing to the demands of the moment.

Dan (65:59)

Pulling the trigger on doing the thing that must be done can sometimes require a type of boldness.

Jordan (66:05)

Sure.

Dan (66:07)

Like, I don't know, let's say you're on a second story building or whatever and you have to jump off the roof to avoid some kind of danger.

Jordan (66:17)

Sure.

Dan (66:17)

That takes boldness.

Jordan (66:18)

But is it extremely well thought out?

Dan (66:21)

I mean, compared to if there's certain doom coming from the other side. Yes. I just watched the Matrix movie and he had to jump off a roof. Right.

Jordan (66:31)

It's in my head I was feeling like this.

Dan (66:33)

Yeah.

Jordan (66:33)

This is very specific, I think.

Dan (66:38)

Okay, well thought out.

Jordan (66:39)

All right.

Dan (66:40)

If it requires a ton of pre planning and time, okay, then maybe not. But if you can make a snap decision that is pretty well assessing the risk and cost benefits.

Jordan (66:53)

Right.

Dan (66:53)

Then maybe.

Jordan (66:54)

Okay. Okay. So here's. Then what I think we can agree on. Something bold can be well thought out. Something well thought out can be bold. But an extremely bold thing cannot be extremely well thought out.

Dan (67:10)

Huh.

Alex Jones (67:11)

Now.

Jordan (67:12)

Because by virtue of its extreme boldness, it implies a necessary lack of thought.

Dan (67:19)

Well, I think I'll go with you generally. But I think that there are some exceptions. For instance, okay. The spicy chicken sandwich at Wendy's, it is very bold.

Jordan (67:30)

Bold. It is very bold.

Dan (67:31)

And the recipe. Well thought out.

Jordan (67:33)

Extremely well thought out.

Dan (67:34)

Right.

Jordan (67:35)

Probably almost excessively so.

Dan (67:36)

So I think that there are some examples if you really apply. If you take.

Jordan (67:40)

I appreciate the alternate definition of bold for this.

Dan (67:44)

Right.

Jordan (67:44)

Well done.

Dan (67:45)

If you do that, then.

Jordan (67:47)

Yeah, I like that.

Dan (67:48)

No, but I think what Alex is trying to present is a little stupid.

Jordan (67:50)

Yeah. That I would agree with.

Dan (67:52)

And if he's. If he's saying like, this is financial violence and that kind of shit, I feel like he's undercutting it a little bit with the. The like everyone is overreacting and putting. Put options on stuff like. Yeah, of course it's financial violence.

Jordan (68:08)

Yeah.

Dan (68:08)

Trump is engaged in a revolutionary overthrow of the economy.

Jordan (68:13)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're listening to this, it feels like what he wants you to do is both be terrified and also not worried at all.

Dan (68:22)

And by cmos.

Jordan (68:23)

Exactly, Exactly.

Dan (68:23)

That's the only answer.

Jordan (68:24)

Yep.

Dan (68:25)

So we have one last clip here. And Alex is getting into Democratic leadership. Oh, yeah, and he's a little wrong.

Alex Jones (68:33)

We're gonna get into. The Democratic Party was talking about having David Hogg as the DNC head. They did it. I mean, that guy is a low grade moron. You talk about rearranging deck chairs when the Titanic's already at the bottom of the ocean. I mean, and you ought to see the freak show of the DNC election. I mean, you want to know? I mean, look, if you thought the Clintons a few weeks ago at Trump's inauguration looked like they'd seen a ghost, this is 10 times more horrible than it was even then for them.

Dan (69:13)

I thought Bill was having a great time. What happened anyway? David Hogg isn't the head of the dnc. He became one of the five vice chairs, and Alex should probably just let this one go. He knows nothing about David Hogg other than the fact that Hogg survived the Parkland shooting and then was the target of an intense harassment campaign carried out by Alex and his associates. Like noted AI expert and Ebola cure. Or Mike Adams. He ran a site that was just dedicated to David Hogg, who is at that point still in high school. Well, to be fair, maybe he wasn't in high school at that time because 17 of his classmates had been murdered.

Jordan (69:47)

Yeah.

Dan (69:47)

This is the person that you're choosing to now be like, he's a low grade moron. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Jordan (69:53)

I.

Alex Jones (69:55)

Wild.

Dan (69:55)

It's.

Jordan (69:56)

It's wild.

Dan (69:57)

We've made a celebrity out of mocking this guy's tragedy. So I'm gonna go back to the well on that.

Jordan (70:03)

I mean. Yeah.

Dan (70:06)

Monstrous.

Jordan (70:07)

It is. It is like. It is one of those things where you look at that and you just go, really? Can't believe it. Cannot believe it.

Dan (70:18)

Yep. It's. It's. It's the kind of example of a moment and a behavior where you're like, wow, that's helpful, because it's exactly what you shouldn't do.

Jordan (70:29)

Yeah.

Dan (70:30)

It's the exact way you shouldn't live your life.

Jordan (70:32)

Yeah.

Dan (70:33)

It's. Every instinct is wrong that leads you to the woohoo, David Hogg. We get to make fun of him again.

Jordan (70:39)

Yeah. And it's. But it also is like, it is why whenever you have a conversation with somebody about it, there's two reaction which is like, like, well, he didn't actually do that or he didn't actually mean it because it's so crazy that your instinct is to go. No human being could do that.

Dan (70:55)

Right. Like when he was insulting Neil Heslin. During the trial. During the trial, on air, talking about how he's slow and like.

Jordan (71:03)

Oh, no, he meant something to. Nope. No, no, he did not.

Dan (71:07)

Yeah.

Jordan (71:07)

He is a monstrous human being. There is no other explanation that you require.

Dan (71:12)

Yeah. That is an exploitative piece of shit and full of malice. Now, at the same time, we end this on a cliffhanger.

Jordan (71:22)

What is your bright spot?

Dan (71:23)

That's one cliffhanger.

Jordan (71:24)

That's my biggest cliffhanger.

Dan (71:25)

There's a second cliffhanger. And that is. What is the information that Alex is gonna reveal tomorrow?

Jordan (71:30)

Oh, that's interesting. I had almost even written that off. As we won't even talk about it tomorrow.

Dan (71:37)

Exactly. That's because we've been doing this for eight years.

Jordan (71:41)

I was like, oh, that. I guess technically that is a cliffhanger. But I imagine that we won't ever hear about this ever again.

Dan (71:46)

Now, normal people who just hear a story and hear a. Like, I have been given secret documents by the government.

Jordan (71:53)

Yeah.

Dan (71:54)

And I will reveal them on the air tomorrow. Right, yeah. That's a normal reaction.

Jordan (71:58)

Totally.

Dan (71:58)

When you've been in Alex world for eight years, you hear that and you're like, great, sure. Cool, man.

Jordan (72:03)

All right. I don't even know if you will remember you said that tomorrow. Yeah.

Dan (72:08)

But we will find out what my bright spot is.

Jordan (72:10)

I suppose we will. There's one thing that will be, will be fulfilled.

Dan (72:14)

One or two things will pay off on the next episode. But until then. We have a website.

Jordan (72:20)

Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.

Dan (72:22)

Yep. We'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.

Jordan (72:30)

And now here comes the sex robot.

Alex Jones (72:32)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Jordan (72:36)

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

Alex Jones (72:40)

I love you.