#1016: February 3, 2025

Summary

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Knowledge Fight Episode #1016: February 3, 2025

Release Date: March 14, 2025
Hosts: Dan & Jordan
Theme: Breaking Down Another Day of The Alex Jones Show – Trump’s “Grand Strategy,” Tariff Drama, Disinformation about Global Affairs, and Alex’s Deep Malaise

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jordan dissect the February 3rd, 2025 broadcast of The Alex Jones Show, teasing out its grand claims about Trump’s “strategy,” the ongoing trade war, Alex’s narrative shifts, and the self-inflicted sadness and emptiness at the core of Jones’ performance. The hosts unpack the lack of specifics behind Jones’ big “revelations,” spotlight his repeated conspiratorial foreshadowings, and analyze both the broader political contexts and personal resentments that fuel the broadcast. This episode is, by their own admission, a “bummer,” with moments of bleak comedy and pointed reckoning with right-wing media tactics.

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Bright Spots & Banter (00:59–08:45)

Key Moments:

• Dan’s Bright Spot: Dan reveals he’s taken to accessorizing—a “pinky ring, Future Farmers of America” style ([03:09]).
  • Jordan: “Why did you get a pinky ring?”
  • Dan: “Why not?” ([03:14])
• The duo riff on the accessorizing impulse, British gangsters, and “weekend dad” energy (“an earring is sadder… you just got divorced and you’re out there again…” — Jordan, [04:54]).
• Jordan is getting his tattoo finished after his artist’s maternity leave ([05:38]).
• Discussion on whether tattoo artists ever consider tattooing their babies; whether to memento a barcode on a baby ([06:09]).

Tone:

Warm, jokey, irreverent, and a bit surreal—classic Knowledge Fight rapport. Early banter quickly flips from silly to somber as Dan warns the show will end on a “bummer note” ([06:56]).

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Main Content Dive: Alex Jones’ New Narrative Playbook

1. Trump’s “Grand Strategy”: Vague Claims, No Substance ([09:23–12:46], [62:14–66:03])

• Jones' Assertion: Trump is guiding America into a new golden era—a “grand strategy” supposedly meant to restore the “American system,” defeat the “neoliberal globalist world order,” and return to Renaissance-style thinking ([09:35], [62:21]).
  • Alex: “But if Trump doesn’t succeed…society, and civilization will break up…dangerous global destabilization…” ([10:58])
• Dan’s Analysis: This is all empty rhetoric—no specifics, just pseudo-intellectual window dressing.
  • Dan: “This all means nothing. That’s just a bunch of filler words that amount to zero… What is it? What’s the American system?” ([63:34])
• Jordan: Mocks Jones’ “Back to the Future” platitudes: “It’s the American system. Back to the future. It’s the best thinking anybody ever came up with” ([63:54]).

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2. Elon Musk as Savior? Grand Conspiracies & Zero Details

([12:51–16:59], [16:21–18:45])

• Jones’ Big Claim: Musk has gained “partial control” over the Treasury, ousted staff, and exposed “hundreds of thousands” of fraudulent documents—a “deluge” that proves total Deep State corruption ([12:51], [16:22]).
  • Alex: “Musk got control… Since then, they have released hundreds of thousands of documents… pointed out a selection of the fraud and crime… avalanche, tsunami, a flood” ([13:32])
• Dan’s Deconstruction: Alex exploits the “big number” effect—if it’s too large to grasp, people stop questioning specifics. There’s never a concrete example, just hand-waving.
  • Dan: “Alex is trying to sell you a pile of things because it’s a really large pile and that’s kind of impressive… He doesn’t want the audience to look closer and realize it’s a pile of shit” ([14:18])
  • (“If Alex were just to report on a specific case of fraud…pretty easy to debunk.”)

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3. Tariffs, Trade Wars, and Rewriting Reality

([18:45–22:30], [46:25–52:46])

• Jones’ Frame: Trump’s tariffs are noble, designed to expose and rectify unfair trade with Mexico and Canada. Claims US barely benefits while neighbors exploit the relationship ([18:52], [46:25]).
  • Alex: “Trump didn’t just freeze the 3 trillion in NGO slush funds… and Musk and Trump said that’s fine, we already control the payment systems… we’re just blocking all these payments ourselves…” ([18:52])
  • “Oh, Trump’s tariffs are going to cause a stock market crash and a new great depression… but really it’s the corporate media and their BlackRock private central bank Rothschild owners…” ([19:46])
• Dan’s Context: Trump repeatedly bluffs on tariffs, always retreating after international pushback. The “great victories” are mostly symbolic or entirely imaginary.
  • Dan: “He’s getting ready for an explanation for bad times.” ([21:56])
  • “Trump ends up exempting the auto industry from tariffs… because applying them would destroy the US car industry…” ([48:26])
• On US Banks in Canada: (“US Banks can operate in Canada. They’re just required to follow some regulations… Alex just saw Trump tweet that US Banks can’t operate in Canada… he’s repeating the master’s words unquestioningly.” — Dan, [50:01])
• Jordan: “So tariffs are functionally like sanctions?” — (Dan affirms and expands, [51:00–51:57])

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4. International Affairs Reframed: Panama, BlackRock, and China

([23:26–27:47], [34:44–35:07])

• Jones: Celebrates Panama’s exit from China’s Belt and Road Initiative as a Trump victory; frames US control as a great nationalist reclaiming ([23:26], [34:44]).
  • Ignores details: the Panama Ports Company sold to a US consortium largely led by BlackRock—who Jones positions elsewhere as globalist villains ([25:52]).
  • “He only sees a victory, because that’s all there is on the surface. If he dug deeper, he’d have to address this story as really being about a Chinese company selling the port to the literal devil…” (Dan, [25:43])
  • “Talks about Larry Fink [BlackRock CEO] all the fucking time…” (Dan, [25:52])

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5. Racism Anew: South Africa, Apartheid, and White Supremacy Dog-whistles

([28:44–33:18])

• Jones: Repeats right-wing trope about “white farmers” in post-apartheid South Africa being persecuted, minimizes anti-apartheid developments ([28:52]).
  • Alex: “South Africa’s going the way of Rhodesia… first they took the white farmers’ land and then they killed them… President literally gets up and says, ‘kill all the white people.’” ([28:52])
• Dan’s Analysis: Explains South Africa’s Expropriation Act, apartheid history, and how these narratives enable white nationalist revisionism.
  • Dan: “An apartheid state run by white people that steals the land in a country, that’s just freedom and the market; while people asking for white people to give that land back, that’s evil communism.” ([32:31])
  • Connects to Elon Musk’s South African roots and family’s support of apartheid.

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6. Weaponizing Tragedy: Helicopter Crash & DEI Scapegoating

([36:10–41:21])

• Jones: Blames a Blackhawk helicopter crash on “DEI” and the presence of a female pilot, Rebecca Lobock, (mis)characterizes her as “a Biden official” and “LGBT,” then spins out a culture war conspiracy ([36:10], [41:54]).
  • Alex: “But it came out she was a Biden official who was just in ROTC a few years ago and is now commanding missions in cog. And you saw the rest of the story, and she’s LGBT… Boy, no wonder they didn’t want us to know about that.” ([36:10])
  • Later: “For folks that don’t know, in five years you don’t go from ROTC to commanding COG missions…” ([41:54])
• Dan’s Deconstruction: Points out Lobock’s real military qualifications, Jones’ bad-faith misogyny, and his tendency to conflate performance with political smears.
  • Dan: “He has nothing to say about the other two dudes in that helicopter because according to Alex, they belong there. She was just there because of DEI.” ([37:55])
• “There’s no evidence for any of the stuff that Alex is saying. He sees a woman in a position that he feels like a man should be in, and his explanation… must have lowered the standards…” ([43:17])

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7. Media Consolidation Hypocrisy: Spanish Radio and Soros

([58:00–61:46])

• Jones: Suggests Spanish-language radio stations are a Soros-funded plot, communicating instructions to foment chaos and violence among immigrants ([58:00]).
  • Alex: “…radio stations, tell them to go out and be violent…order of the Soros radio stations, tell them to go out and be violent… that’s confirmed. About all the key Spanish speaking ones.” ([58:29])
• Dan’s Context: Story traces to a local Miami station bought by a non-right-wing group with some Soros-affiliated funding—media consolidation is bad, but Jones ignores right-wing dominance via similar means.
  • “In some ways, Alex is afraid of the idea…because he knows that’s what his guys did and it’s pretty effective…” ([61:02])
  • Jordan: “It makes you despair of ever learning a lesson…maybe don’t give all the media to a very small group of people…” ([61:02])

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8. Jones’ Meltdown: Doubt, Irrelevance, and Self-Pity

([66:29–75:13])

The episode’s emotional nadir features Alex spiraling:

• Laments: He doesn’t have enough staff to “fight as hard as I want,” insists he sits on “original research stories” and “federal documents” that prove the Deep State exists, but might as well not release them because he’d just “fuck it up” ([65:44], [67:45]).
  • Alex: “I have all this proof… I just can’t release them because I’m not going to release them half ass… tortured because our enemies are easy to beat… and the fact that I’ve done one of the best jobs is insane… I got total proof of the Deep State… I’m not even going to release them… We’ll fuck it up…” ([67:45], [69:45])
• Dan’s Framing: Argues that this misery is the real, self-inflicted consequence of Jones’ grift—a man made obsolete, propped up only for scapegoating when hard times come.
  • Dan: “It’s wild to think that he actually knows that. That he understands how incapable he is of being a journalist.” ([71:59])

Jordan sums up: “There’s the idea is if you’re miserable, do a different thing” ([74:30]).

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Dan: “This pinky ring is FFA… Future Farmers of America.” ([04:13])
• Jordan: “An earring is sadder. Earring has strong weekend dad vibes to it.” ([04:54])
• Alex Jones: “And if we don’t relaunch the American system… the trajectory of humanity, society, and civilization will break up into a bunch of feuding groups and power blocks…” ([10:58])
• Dan: “Alex is trying to sell you a pile of things because it’s a really large pile and that’s kind of impressive on its own. He doesn’t want the audience to look closer and realize it’s a pile of shit.” ([14:18])
• Jordan: “Tariffs are functionally like sanctions… so we make the people feel like shit so they’ll put pressure on their government?” ([51:00])
• Dan: “Trump leads as a bully… he makes threats and usually gets his way because he’s a super rich asshole… But governing doesn’t work like that.” ([48:52])
• Alex Jones: “South Africa is going the way of Rhodesia… first they took the white farmers land and then they killed them. It’s getting really bad in South Africa.” ([28:52])
• Dan: “It’s wild to think that he actually knows that. That he understands how incapable he is of being a journalist.” ([71:59])

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Segment Timestamps (Selected)

• [00:59] – Bright Spot: Dan’s Pinky Ring
• [09:23] – Alex rolls out the “grand strategy” claims
• [12:51] – Musk’s supposed Treasury coup
• [16:21] – “Fraud” avalanche—no details
• [18:52] – Tariff/trade fake victories
• [23:26] – Panama Canal, Belt & Road spin
• [28:52] – South Africa, white nationalist narratives
• [36:10] – Helicopter crash, DEI scapegoating
• [46:25] – Tariff impacts, automaker exemptions
• [58:00] – Spanish radio, Soros, media consolidation hypocrisy
• [62:14] – Alex promises (and fails) to explain Trump’s “philosophy”
• [67:45] – Alex’s existential spiral: “I just can’t release them because I’m not going to release them half ass…”
• [74:30] – “If you’re miserable, do a different thing.”

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Episode Tone:

A mix of morbid humor, frustration, and exhaustion—Dan and Jordan both mock Alex Jones’ unraveling, yet can’t escape a sense of tragedy at the spectacle. The “zero to pinky ring” episode rating ends at absolute zero.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a case study in how empty, performative the new “populist” right’s strategy talk is—Alex Jones supplies Trumpist triumphalism devoid of reality-based detail, while his only demonstrable skill is conspiratorial fearmongering and scapegoating vulnerable groups. With power now in “his” team’s hands, Jones becomes both more desperate and more obsolete—admitting to his irrelevance, lost amidst his own piles of “evidence” he will never share. Dan and Jordan’s analysis serves as both a careful debunking and a subtle character study in right-wing collapse.

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Transcript

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert. Red alert. Red alert.

[Dan]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgefire.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge Fight. Knowledge. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge, my fine.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight. Need. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy. Andy. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Dan]

Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a huge fan. I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

We're a couple dudes like to sit worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh indeed we are.

[Dan]

Dan, Jordan. Dan, Jordan.

[Jordan]

Quick question for you.

[Dan]

What's up?

[Jordan]

What'd you bright spot today, buddy.

[Dan]

My bright spot today. I warned on the last episode you did that the world and you in particular and everybody. Honestly, I'm not trying to single you out.

[Jordan]

Wait, wait. The world and me and everybody else?

[Dan]

And everybody.

[Jordan]

And everybody.

[Dan]

I realized that I had put too much of a focus on you and there's no reason to.

[Jordan]

No. It does seem excessive.

[Dan]

It's a universal thing.

[Jordan]

I'm here though.

[Dan]

Yeah. I can't talk to the whole world. No.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But everyone's not ready for what my bright spot was last.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Dan]

Last episode.

[Jordan]

Okay. Are we now?

[Dan]

We could be.

[Jordan]

Oh man, this is dangerous.

[Dan]

It's honestly. Now the ball is in your court.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

To figure out what it is. Something is not as it normally is.

[Jordan]

Is it that you have finished the buttons?

[Dan]

No. No. Although I should make a comment on that. Finally got the last of the buttons out.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

It took forever because Expensive.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Annoying.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Disheartening to have a bunch of them not show up places.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And I didn't know about non machinable stamps early on in the process of doing this and so getting that I think probably helped.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

No, but that is not it. That's not what the bright spot is.

[Jordan]

All right, let's see. Oh, I don't know. I don't know, man. You're asking me to notice things and that's the one thing that I'm the worst.

[Dan]

I can give a false one. While you think okay. About what it could be.

[Jordan]

It could be anything to me.

[Dan]

There's a bakery called Loaves and Witches that's run by witches that I'll give a shout out to.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right.

[Dan]

This is crazy.

[Jordan]

I don't know. I don't know. Did you get a haircut? No.

[Dan]

Okay, I'll give you a hint.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

It has something to do with the Wu Tang Clan's first single off their Iron Flag album.

[Jordan]

Are you wearing a ring?

[Dan]

Boom.

[Jordan]

What are you doing?

[Alex Jones]

I got a pinky ring.

[Jordan]

Why did you get a pinky ring?

[Dan]

Why not?

[Jordan]

Fair enough.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I have no. I have no arguments with.

[Dan]

But I do think you weren't ready for that.

[Jordan]

I was not ready for a pinky ring.

[Dan]

You didn't notice I got a pinky ring?

[Jordan]

I mean, I didn't know that we. That you were a British gangster in the 1930s. So it was. But now that I've learned that, now we can move forward.

[Dan]

Well, based on my clue, it was either a pinky ring or an Uzi, one of two, based on the Wu Tang title.

[Jordan]

I was. I was interested for a little bit there.

[Dan]

To be.

[Jordan]

To be honest, if it was an.

[Dan]

Uzi, I got this pinky ring because I've never accessorized. Really?

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And I'm thinking maybe it's time. Maybe I should. I've always. I don't judge other people for accessorizing, but I've always felt like an internal sense of, like, this is fake. This is false. This isn't me.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

You know, I'm adding on something for a look naturally or whatever. So the first branching out of it is this. This pinky ring is ffa.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

Future Farmers of America.

[Jordan]

I like it.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Let me tell you something. First off, I want to applaud you.

[Dan]

Thank you.

[Jordan]

Because the logical step. Not logical. The most common step for people in your scenario is earring, and you would have looked terrible with an earring.

[Dan]

Well, I also have, like, this weird lobe on my. On my right ear.

[Jordan]

Oh, do you?

[Dan]

Yeah. See that?

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Strange little. It looks like someone tore an earring out of my ear.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

At some point. I have no idea why that's going on, because.

[Jordan]

Did somebody tear an earring out of your ear?

[Dan]

Maybe.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

But no, I. I don't think I would. I don't think I would go earring. Not because I'm against it.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But because pinky ring.

[Jordan]

I know.

[Dan]

It's a little funnier.

[Jordan]

I don't disagree with you. An earring is sadder. Earring has strong weekend dad vibes to it. You know, like, oh, we just got divorced and I'm out there again. That kind of thing. Now, this doesn't no. That has, like, maybe you owe me hundreds of dollars kind of energy.

[Alex Jones]

You owe me hundreds of dollars.

[Jordan]

No, exactly. It could go either way. British gangster in the 1930s.

[Dan]

So it's your bright spot.

[Jordan]

Did you bet on a fight recently?

[Dan]

Oh, yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right. One of the bare knuckle ones. Okay.

[Dan]

Well, not totally bad.

[Jordan]

I mean, what's funny about my bright spot is I think it's an equal affectation is that.

[Dan]

Well, you got that Ghostface Killa eagle arm band, right?

[Jordan]

Oh, I'm getting my tattoo finished tomorrow.

[Dan]

Oh, fun.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My. My artist, we. We had almost finished it. We were a couple hours away, and then she went and had a whole baby on me.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So now I guess they. I guess she kept it or it's gone. Whichever it is, that gives her enough time to finish my tattoo. So I'm excited.

[Dan]

That's great. I actually, I had in my head thought you'd already finished it, so I'm glad to hear you checking it off.

[Jordan]

It's just mostly done. It's just like a few little bits of color here and there.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

But just finishing it, getting it all the way done.

[Dan]

Here's the thought that I have.

[Jordan]

What's that?

[Dan]

If you are a tattoo artist.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And you have a baby.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Do you ever, like, consider, like, how.

[Jordan]

Do you tattoo that baby?

[Dan]

Exactly.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What age can you tattoo the baby?

[Jordan]

I think you tattoo the baby at any age.

[Dan]

No, because they have to be able to choose their tattoo. They have to. You can't be writing.

[Jordan]

I was going to write things to remember. You know, I was going to go full memento with it.

[Dan]

Well, I mean, if you put their name on the baby, that helps. You can prove that it's them.

[Jordan]

That is for sure. Yours too.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Maybe a barcode. I would definitely put a barcode up.

[Dan]

We'll get there eventually.

[Jordan]

Yeah, we'll get there. Yeah.

[Dan]

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

We're gonna be talking about February 3, 2025.

[Jordan]

All right, all right.

[Dan]

This episode ends on a bummer note.

[Jordan]

That sounds right.

[Dan]

It's very sad.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But much like my tease of a bright spot we left on a cliffhanger with Alex's tease of secret information that Trump has given him.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right, right.

[Dan]

Will it pay off?

[Jordan]

Will it pay off? Will we even remember it?

[Dan]

We're going to, at the end of this episode, rank it from zero to pinky ring, and we will see where it falls.

[Jordan]

I don't know which is good and which is bad.

[Dan]

I don't either. Okay, before we get to business, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

Ooh, that's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first, happy 30th birthday, Jacob. It's wild that there has not been a single day of your life where Alex Jones has not been doing what he does. You'll be forever my bright spot in Alex voice. I love you. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. Next, cashing in my shout out to invite Jordan to an emergency management scenario based tabletop exercise. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

I'm in. Next, Remus. Thank you for introing me to being a wonky goof that falls down political rabbit holes with you. And great points to debunk creates probably power points to debunk things. As well as Dan and Jordan, your gem. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much. To wasps nests. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

4 stars.

[Alex Jones]

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Yes, thank you very much.

[Dan]

I really, like, before the episode, I was like, it's going to be so obvious that I have a pinky ring on.

[Jordan]

You're talking to me.

[Dan]

No, I understand that. And that's. That was the game that was going on in my head. He's like, Jordan is deeply oblivious, but will he be able to pull it out in the moment?

[Jordan]

I did, I did. I got there at the end.

[Dan]

Eventually.

[Jordan]

It took a while.

[Dan]

I was put. I brushing my hair aside, trying to put right in your line of vision.

[Jordan]

I was honestly like, what is that on his hair? Every time you did it. And it didn't occur to me that that was the thing. Yeah, nevermind. Well, all right. Is he?

[Dan]

Okay, so we'll start the show here with Alex and he's talking about Trump's grand strategy that he's employing in this first two weeks in office.

[Alex Jones]

So today I will, early in the hour, get a Little bit more into what the Trump grand strategy really is. I'll do it at the bottom of the hour, coming up in about 25 minutes. But first, I want to talk about the big picture. Trump's been in exactly 14 days. Fourteen days ago, at 12:08 Eastern, 1108am, 12:08pm east, he was inaugurated. And in 14 days, he has way outperformed because of the people he's got helping them. Susie Wiles and Elon Musk and many others. And they understood that they were boldly taking on the corrupt, evil, but also collapsing neoliberal globalist world order. And that order's done. It'll never be reconstituted, no matter what they do. But if Trump doesn't succeed and if we don't relaunch the American system as an example, worldwide through soft power direct, to a great extent, the trajectory of humanity, society, and civilization will break up into a bunch of feuding groups and power blocks, and it will constitute a very dangerous global destabilization of its own. So that's the big picture?

[Dan]

That's the big picture.

[Jordan]

That's the big picture, yeah. What way is that the big picture?

[Dan]

Well, I think in essence, he's talking about, like, Pax Trump Bona.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

You know, like the peace through Trump.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Stability in the world is guaranteed if we control the trajectory of everybody. And I think that's kind of like what I thought he thought the globalists wanted to do.

[Jordan]

I'm fairly certain he's pulling a God emperor of Dune right now, but it's like we're directing the entire future of.

[Dan]

Humanity, and if we don't.

[Jordan]

And if we don't, it's. I mean, he's talking about Leto's golden path, obviously.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think that's a little unhealthy also. Probably super unpredictable, that this would be his mindset.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, it does. It does give you little bits of like. Maybe whenever people say anything, I should be like, oh, you're talking about what you think.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

Especially when Alex keeps coming up with these super villain plots and he's like, that's what I would do if I were them.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah.

[Dan]

Now that fucking super villain, now that you're them. Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.

[Dan]

And I respect the attempt to try and dress it up with these, like, terms like soft power and, you know, try and cushion the fall a little bit, I suppose. I don't think it's doing the masking job that he wants to. I think it's still pretty see through.

[Jordan]

Do you really respect it?

[Dan]

Nope.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I didn't think so.

[Dan]

So, something else I don't respect is Elon dumbfuck Musk.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And me and Alex differ on that point.

[Jordan]

Oh, I can't believe it.

[Alex Jones]

Musk in the last week got partial control of the financial records and systems of the federal government. Saturday morning they had a rebellion at the Treasury Department and over the administrators that control the Treasury's payment system and records system. So they had those people removed. Others resigned, and Musk got control.

[Jordan]

A.

[Alex Jones]

Little bit before noon Eastern time Saturday. Since then, they have released hundreds of thousands of documents and thousands of data dumps and just pointed out a selection of the fraud and crime. And that itself is a avalanche. A tsunami, a flood, a deluge.

[Dan]

So I know Alex is aware of the old Stalin quote that goes like, one death is a tragedy, a million's a statistic. Because he's repeated it a ton of times on his show. He knows it.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The gist of that quote is that when you have a large number of deaths, you begin to lose the ability to see the details of each specific death. And your mind detaches from the reality that it's a ton of dead people you're thinking about. One person's death can be grappled with as the loss of an individual, which your brain struggles to do with large groups. This dynamic is something that Alex exploits pretty regularly for his content. In this case, I would change that original quote to something along the lines of, one case of fraud is discussable, but a thousand is not. If Alex were just to report on a specific case of fraud that Musk has allegedly uncovered, it would be pretty easy to debunk the case he chose and it would threaten to collapse this whole story under its own weight. Because when there's one example, your brain can hold onto the details as an individual case, whereas your brain just can't process the image of a thousand examples of shit that you're supposed to assess. Alex is trying to sell you a pile of things because it's a really large pile and that's kind of impressive on its own. He doesn't want the audience to look closer and realize it's a pile of shit. So we'll see if he actually provides examples of this fraud that Musk has supposedly uncovered or if it's just a deluge. Yeah, it's just an avalanche.

[Jordan]

You know, here's, here's what I would say, right? Is if the first thing, first thing that I would do to like cut down on fraud and all that stuff. Too much paperwork. What are we doing with hundreds of thousands of documents? That's too many. That's too many. Smaller paper first off. Maybe post it notes, microfiche. Absolutely. This is the better way to go. We need to conserve paper. This is my main issue with Elon Musk.

[Dan]

Well, you're going to find some problems with Alex on that. Because he loves printing stuff. You know that?

[Jordan]

He really does take down a forest every day.

[Dan]

There's one thing we know about Alex, it's that he was attacked by a poltergeist when he was younger and God chose him to fight the devil.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If we know two things, it's that and he loves printing things.

[Jordan]

That is definitely true.

[Dan]

So let's see. See if he gets to some specifics about this, this fraud stuff.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

That in and of itself is irrevocably discrediting and devastating the entire globalist. Not just here, but world money laundering, political control system of the tax free foundations, the NGOs, the CIA, the State Department and their counterparts in other western countries. So that of itself is seismic, historic. And we could do 24 hours a day non stop, just covering what's coming out. It's all over the top. Insane. And we knew what was going on, but the specific receipts are even worse than we thought.

[Jordan]

Now.

[Alex Jones]

We'Re talking about trillions of dollars a year.

[Dan]

This is just like this. Just look at the pile. Look at the pile.

[Jordan]

Are there even trillions of.

[Dan]

Not like could do 24 hours a day about this. Or I could just not do you a minute.

[Jordan]

I won't even tell you.

[Dan]

I can just say shit. I'll say look at the pile.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

No, I mean I know the, the budget is like $2 trillion or something like that. Some crazy number that I can't possibly understand. Right?

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

The idea that there would be trillions every year. That was outside of said $2 trillion that was, that was going missing. That seems like too much.

[Dan]

Derivatives. Secret money.

[Jordan]

What is secret money?

[Dan]

You don't know about secret money?

[Jordan]

I don't know about secret money.

[Dan]

Ooh. I don't know how to tell you this. There's secret secret money.

[Jordan]

Wait, does it not affect inflation if you have secret money?

[Dan]

It's a different inflation.

[Jordan]

It's a different inflation.

[Dan]

They work on a different scale. Well, secret.

[Jordan]

This is, this is how they do it. It's just too complicated for me to follow. Of course. You commit crimes whenever it's that complicated.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I think that there's Also a real disconnect between like, hey, we found government fraud and what you really mean is we found spending we don't like that was public and approved.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I mean you school lunch programs isn't fraud. Yeah. Clearly defined fraud. They can't, it's not like somebody is at an office like they're not describing somebody in an office like faking shit and spending 2 trillion doll. They're just grabbing departments and cutting them.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. And saying like, oh, this is a thing that I wouldn't want to spend money on. Fraud. What?

[Jordan]

You know what it is? Too much paperwork.

[Dan]

It is telling you microfiche.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

So Trump is talking tariffs.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And so there's going to be counter strikes according to Alex.

[Alex Jones]

Okay. Trump didn't just freeze the 3 trillion in the NGO slush funds last week and then some low level federal judge blocked it for now and Musk and Trump said that's fine, we're already control the payment systems and almost all this is totally illegal and so we're just blocking all these payments ourselves at the executive level and we're just going to expose it all to the light of day. See how you vampires like that. So that is a huge area we'll be hitting. And, and as I speak so much more is coming out. You couldn't cover that in a day. So we have that. Then we have the, the, the big enemy counter strikes that oh, Trump's tariffs are going to cause a stock market crash and a new great depression. But really it's the corporate media and their BlackRock private central bank Rothschild owners who are desperate to stop this recovery that will then vindicate Trump and have the whole world adop the American system again. And there goes their neo feudalistic tyrannical. You will eat the bugs post industrial hell. But when you actually go in and look at what's happened, the United States gets less than 5% of its goods for Mexico and less than 5% of its trade is with Mexico and Mexico has 81% of its trade with us. And guess what, it's the same number, 81% Canada. And they don't let our products in, they don't let our businesses in, they don't let us do jack crap.

[Dan]

So the way Alex is describing Trump at the beginning of that clip seems to be basically a judge said I couldn't do what I wanted. So I took over the accounting department and then started whining on Twitter. It doesn't come off very strong or like a noble strategy, but I do think Alex is doing the best with what he has to work with because it. It's sad. As we've seen since Trump came into office, he's an unstable and unreliable actor in terms of trade. Trade. It's only been a few months and he's already promised giant tariffs, only to walk them back when the leaders of the targeted countries make it clear that they won't just accept the tariff without imposing their own three times. Now he's made a big show of announcing tariffs, which he would then go on to postpone or limit in some way after backlash. This is all gonna lead to chilled trade relations, less trust in the US As a trade partner, and increased prices for consumer goods. When those inevitable results come, Alex will be able to portray the consequences of Trump's actions as the globalist counterattack attack. And that's what he's doing here. He's getting ready for an explanation for bad times.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Also, what's his solution? We take over Canada and Mexico?

[Dan]

Probably.

[Jordan]

I mean, is that. Does he want A one soft power? I mean, that's an interesting question. Does he actually want a one continent country?

[Dan]

He's supported. Like he supported Trump's calls to make Canada a state. So. Yeah.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

I think he would. You know what Alex is. He loves colonization but also hates expansion.

[Jordan]

Sure. No, I say we negotiate and everybody in America's American rule. That would get rid of this whole immigrant shit. Solve that problem.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Done.

[Dan]

I don't think Alex wants that, but I think he would like some kind of.

[Jordan]

It feels like his version of colonialism has him subjugating a population as opposed to bringing them into the.

[Dan]

He wants to start a prison planet in El Salvador.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, but who does it?

[Dan]

Me.

[Jordan]

That's because you don't have the imagination for a prison planet in El Salvador.

[Dan]

I've got such a robust imagination that I got a pinky ring.

[Jordan]

You can't even put a pinky ring in El Salvador.

[Dan]

I actually.

[Jordan]

You could probably get. Get by with that.

[Dan]

What about Panama, though?

[Jordan]

That's a good question.

[Dan]

Man. A plan, Right? A canal Panama.

[Jordan]

Is that a palindrome?

[Dan]

It is. That's like race car, right?

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Or able. I was air. I saw Elba.

[Jordan]

That's not a good palindrome.

[Dan]

But it is one.

[Jordan]

It is one. That's true.

[Dan]

Alex has some thoughts about Panama, palindromes, the canal therein.

[Jordan]

Oh, okay.

[Alex Jones]

So Trump said, I don't want to do these tariffs. Open up your countries to our stuff and stop shipping the fentanyl and agree to put your troops on the border. He's already gone out and deputized the Texas Guard. He's deputizing other guards. We got a problem. He's saying, help us, we'll help you. And she says, screw you, Fu. Just like the Colombian president. And he shut up within a few hours. The Panamanian president just last week said, screw you to Trump. Our deal is, we built it. You're supposed to give our military ships free transit and give us ships a discount.

[Dan]

Nope.

[Alex Jones]

You don't get that. We're going to give China free transit and let China come in with their Belt and Road Initiative and take over the country. Well, less than 24 hours after Trump announced these sanctions on Panama, the president. We have the video. Did a national address yesterday afternoon and said, we're ending the Belt and Road Initiative. We're in your hemisphere. Monroe Doctrine. We want to work.

[Jordan]

Monroe Doctrine.

[Alex Jones]

And you can bring your ships through for free. US Ships, military ships, and what else do you want?

[Dan]

So Panama did recently announce that they wouldn't be renewing their participation in China's Belt and Road Initiative, but the exact amount that Trump's trade war has to do with that is unclear. There's been a trend internationally of decreased interest in that initiative as investment from China into these other parts of the world has gone down. Italy withdrew from the infrastructure agreement in 2023, and there's been some talk of other countries going that direction as well. I understand that Alex has complained about China owning the Panama Canal for a long time, like way back into his early career. So it makes sense for him to celebrate the idea of China's influence waning here. However, he really needs to read past headlines of these stories, or else he runs the risk of sounding like a real dum dum. China operates most of the business at the Panama Canal through a company called CK Hutchinson. They run the Balboa and Crietobal terminals, which are on each side of the canal through an entity called the Panama Ports Company. The PPC was sold for $14 billion recently to a US consortium, and Alex should know that that's largely funded by BlackRock, the people that he really, really hates and who are the kings of the globalists.

[Jordan]

Sounds about right.

[Dan]

Talks about Larry Fink all the fucking time. Yeah, Alex doesn't know any of the details of these stories. So when he reports on the Panama Canal no longer being influenced by a Chinese port company, he only sees a victory, because that's all there is on the surface. If he dug even the slightest bit deeper, he'd have to address this story as really being about a Chinese company selling the port to the literal devil, which isn't really progress at all from his perspective. I think this is a good illustration of the kind of information that you can get from Alex and sources like him. Him, he can pump you up about the feeling around a piece of news, even if the reality of that news should give you the opposite feeling. All he has to do is, all he can do is distract you from any of the details in order to get you on the road that he wants.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Also to be clear, CK Hutchinson's co managing director said, quote, I would like to stress that the transaction is purely commercial in nature and wholly unrelated to recent political news reports concerning the Panama ports. So I don't know if, if this is something that heavily has to do with Trump's actions or not.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But either way, Alex is pretending that it's like GI Joe is taking over and not Blackrock.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. No. Sometimes, like, I understand the complexity of the world, but at the same time I, I just go like, wait a second, so a bunch of guys a few thousand miles away owned this thing and then they just sold it to a bunch of other guys and nobody talked to the people who live there? Basically.

[Dan]

Well, I mean, I think it's in coordination with the Panama government.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But I think, I'm sure there are a lot of local Panamanians who are not thrilled we used to live in the trees.

[Jordan]

You know what I mean?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's where I'm. That's where I'm coming back and forward from.

[Dan]

Yeah, it is. It's. I just, I can't get over how silly Alex's show appears.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

When you get a little bit more information. Yeah. Like, like he, like, how does he not understand that this is like Blackrock's behind this?

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, if ironically, in a sense, him failing to follow the plan of the devil bolsters the devil's claim to being in. In charge. You know what I'm saying? Like, the less good Alex is, the less good. The worse Alex is at following the globalist plan, the more credence to the leader of said plan being the devil you would have to give it. Right.

[Dan]

Sure, I guess. But also, there's a possibility that Alex just sucks.

[Jordan]

There's also that possibility.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, he might. The fact that he can't figure this mystery out might not be an indication that it's a good mystery.

[Jordan]

That's fair.

[Dan]

May just be a fucking idiot.

[Jordan]

That's fair. You're not wrong.

[Dan]

So he's also a little bit racist.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And that comes up as Alex talks about some moves that Trump has made about South Africa.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Alex Jones]

Trump's done a lot more too. South Africa is going the way of Rhodesia, which then of course got its name changed. And first they took the white farmers land and then they killed them.

[Jordan]

They took the white farmer's land. Zimbabwe, they took it from the white farmers.

[Alex Jones]

It's getting really bad in South Africa.

[Jordan]

Can you imagine?

[Alex Jones]

And so Trump said, well, I'm gonna put sanctions on your ass to their communist government. Their president literally gets up and says, kill all the white people. Well, there ain't many white people left there. And so Trump just said, nope, we're not putting up with that. And again, the globalist left went in there, set it all up, exploited it, destroyed the system that was there. That we're not defending apartheid either, was Trump. But then you put a communist state in where the whole thing collapses. But the globalists have their military camps and their diamond mines, and then none of the society gets any of the money. Only the globalists. The globalists want warlords in charge.

[Dan]

So that was a masterclass on how to not sound like someone who supports apartheid. If you want to convincingly say that you're against apartheid, it's critical that you refer to one former apartheid state by its old name and imply that the another was of better off when apartheid was was going before his overthrown. It's cool. He sounds great. Trump released a statement that was supposedly in response to South Africa's Expropriation Act 13, which was passed in 2024. This act allows the government to take certain narrowly defined property in order to serve the public good. It's kind of like eminent domain laws in the United States where the government can seize your house if they need to build a highway through where you live. It's not a great thing, but that kind of of like allowance for the government exists in a lot of countries. And the further issue with this particular statute is that it was specifically meant to replace the Expropriation Act 63 from 1975, which was a piece of apartheid state legislation. The new act from 2024 was an attempt to take this bill and make it more in line with the actual constitution of South Africa. It's impossible to understand any of this outside of a broader context. And the fact that black people in South Africa were subject to the Native lands Act of 19, which restricted them from owning property outside of specified reserves. The result of this and other discriminatory legislation passed over the following decades was that a very small white minority in South Africa owned upwards of 85% of the land in the country and controlled pretty much all of the wealth.

[Jordan]

Crazy.

[Dan]

This was a radical expropriation of land in and of itself. And the ripple effect of this are what people are still dealing with today. The white supremacist movement and white nationalist groups worldwide have never been happy that the states that operated with full on white supremacy, like apartheid era South Africa and Rhodesia aren't allowed to be that anymore. So they have a habit of misrepresenting stories around the subject in a way that's meant to argue for a return to apartheid without directly saying that. Also, it's probably important context that Elon Musk's wealth originates from his father owning multiple emerald mines in Africa and that he grew up in South Africa during apartheid. Musk's dad described Elon's mother's side of the family as being very fanatical in support of apartheid. This is all very relevant context that's missing from Alex's analysis because there is no analysis. An apartheid state run by white people that steals the land in a country that's just freedom and the market, while people asking for white people to give that land back, that's evil communism. Okay, sure, it's shallow.

[Jordan]

I mean, I find it fascinating the level of like, groupthink that humans are capable of engaging in, in where you can say something like, they took the white farmers land. You know, like that takes a lot of effort, a lot of years, a lot of education, a lot of reinforcement from the people around you. And then to say it out loud where everybody can hear it and not even think twice. Not even think twice. They took these white farmers land.

[Dan]

It's to deny that history exists before a certain point because it's too complicated when you do. And you're not allowed to have these kind of takes that Alex has.

[Jordan]

It would be more intellectually honest for them to just be like, we took it by murdering people. So I guess it's okay if they take it by murdering us back, but that means it's okay for all of us to murder each other.

[Dan]

Might made right then. But then not anymore.

[Jordan]

But not anymore. No, no, no. Now they're mean.

[Dan]

It's too complicated. So the point is that Trump's. These victories, lots of victories.

[Jordan]

I don't. Okay, yeah, okay. No, no.

[Alex Jones]

Trump's already having big victories. Panama says it won't renew Belt and Road agreement, which totally turns over the infrastructure to China. And the Panama Canal announcement came After a meeting with US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, during which Rubio tackled the issue of Chinese influence over the country, in particular the Panama Canal, Panamanian President president made the announcement on Sunday saying that although the agreement is not due for renewal for another two years, his administration would be looking to terminate it sooner. We are going to study the possibility of whether it can be finished earlier or not. I think it is due for renewal in one or two years. Now again, the globalists were running. China made a deal decades ago to hand over Panama to them. Then the Chinese double crossed the globalist. Trump's come in and push the globalist aside and say we're going back to the American system. That's all this is, is back to the future. But you really don't hear a lot about this in the corporate media. Oh no. Trump's failing. Trump's going to get us all screwed.

[Dan]

Would Alex be able to present this as a big victory for Trump if the audience knew that Trump and Rubio were essentially turning the Panama Canal over to a BlackRock funded consortium? Like they're the big villains of the conspiracy world. Now that Klaus Schwab is kind of a little boring. So this seems like a giant problem for him, but it's not because who cares?

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. BlackRock owns too much shit.

[Dan]

True. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's a problem. It's a different kind of problem than Alex presents it as. But it's not a non problem.

[Alex Jones]

Nope.

[Dan]

So what do you think about eggs?

[Jordan]

I think about eggs.

[Dan]

Easter's coming up.

[Jordan]

Sure. There was. There's a MST3K short that talks about farming eggs and it's very detailed. You gotta, you gotta.

[Dan]

Amazing milk. The chickens.

[Jordan]

It's amazing what they used to make in the like 1950s where they'd be like, hey, if this chicken sells more eggs, that's a good chicken. But if it eats more food, then it makes eggs, that's a bad chicken.

[Dan]

Right. Then the narrator is like scolding a child.

[Jordan]

Totally. Yeah, you idiot. Yeah, it's amazing.

[Dan]

So egg prices, sure. Maybe not Trump's fault, maybe his fault. Who knows?

[Jordan]

Could be.

[Dan]

But you know what's definitely not his fault is that helicopter that crashed into a plane.

[Jordan]

That was. Is that his fault? No, I didn't think so.

[Dan]

It was dei.

[Jordan]

Oh, okay. Well that makes sense.

[Alex Jones]

Let me give you a microcosm. Helicopters are too woke of how they're taking everything that, that the globalist policies did and created and then trying to do a pull fast one. A shell game where they then suddenly go, oh, no. Eggs are record high and in shortage because of Trump. Here's a short clip. Nice to see a press secretary actually answering questions for once with real answers. The president burns reporter with a brutal reality check when he tries to blame the price of eggs on Trump. And this is important because this is the type of snapshot that gets Americans attention when they try to bait and switch and say, oh, Trump's the reason. Since he got in, egg prices have exploded. No, they've been growing for four years and ramping up because of the direct policies. And of course, they blamed Trump, saying he was going to cancel DEI for the helicopter crash last week. Then they wouldn't tell you who the pilot was and try to keep it secret. But it came out she was a Biden official who was just in ROTC a few years ago and is now commanding missions in cog. And you saw the rest of the story, and she's LGBT person or was. Boy, no wonder they didn't want us to know about that.

[Dan]

Ah, no wonder. Now you see the rest of the story, huh? So there were three people in that Blackhawk helicopter at the time of the crash that Alex is talking about, and only one of them was a woman. So we know that Alex is referring to Rebecca Lobock here. Alex says that she was a Biden official who was just in the ROTC a few years ago. She was not a Biden official, although she was a social aide for the White House and the capacity of helping with Medal of Honor and Medal of Freedom ceremonies. That does not make her a Biden official. She was in ROTC when she was in college, while she was simultaneously training with the North Carolina National Guard as an active member until she was called up to the army, graduating in 2019 in the top 20% of her class. Alex is saying that she was a Biden official to smear her as the enemy, and saying that she was just in the ROTC as a way of saying that she was inexperienced and she shouldn't have been in that helicopter. Isn't it suspicious that she's in that helicopter? Underneath it all, he's just saying this because she's a woman. He has nothing to say about the other two dudes in that helicopter because according to Alex, they belong there. She was just there because of dei. No one was trying to keep her identity secret as part of a conspiracy. Her family had requested the military not release her name initially, which was honored while the family prepared a statement. I'm not sure what Alex means when he Says that she was a big LGBT person, but I suspect it's in response to her obituaries mentioning that Rebecca was a passionate victim advocate in the Army Sexual Harassment Assault Response and Prevention Program. I don't know anything about her sexual orientation or anything, and I don't. It's not relevant, but this is something that's brought up a bunch in her obituaries, and I think that it makes Alex mad.

[Jordan]

That makes sense.

[Dan]

Nothing but monster shit here from Alex metaphorically pissing on people's graves in order to make a quick buck. Like, this is disgusting shit. I don't even really care that much about, like, you know, patriotism or military. Or, like, show some respect for the military or anything like that. But, like, the person who just died, you're just shitting all over them. Yeah, yeah, It's. It's. There's no reason to do this.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's loser shit. It's real sad.

[Dan]

Yeah. I find it ugly.

[Jordan]

I feel like. I feel like the misogynist would be like, ah, these two men, they should have manned it, you know? That's what you should be doing.

[Dan]

I also have no idea about, like, the structure of these kinds of missions and stuff.

[Jordan]

Oh, I bet that she was a captain.

[Dan]

One of the other guys was a staff sergeant, and the other one was a warrant officer second class.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And I don't know what that means in terms of rank, but I did look into it a little bit, and I know that, like, a captain and a staff sergeant, one is a commissioned officer and the other isn't sure. So it's impossible to even. Like apples and oranges. It. You can't even compare them, really, in terms of hierarchy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't know who's commanding this mission. I don't know. It just seems like, why. Why are you gonna do this, man?

[Jordan]

Yeah, I mean it. I would. I just. It bums me out that he tries to use words to say it, you know, like he's using all of these horrible words to imply shit. When it's like, man, just say, I don't understand. This is their thing. I hate women. I don't want women in authority. Yeah, right.

[Dan]

There was a little lady over there, and that's why this happened.

[Jordan]

And now I'm angry because a woman was in a power place of authority.

[Dan]

But I'm also more mad because I know that I can't really just say that.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Like, it feels. This is what I'm saying about, like, we used to live in the trees. This is a monkey man who's beating his chest because there's a grown female making decisions. Right. This is a monkey man. But also, like, you can just buy a canal. Like, it's crazy to live in this time period.

[Dan]

It is disoriented.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So this lady who Alex is very respectful of. Yeah, she was just there because. Okay, she was a DEI hire. Right?

[Jordan]

Great.

[Alex Jones]

But. But. But it's not that she's a woman.

[Jordan]

Yes, it is.

[Alex Jones]

Even she's a big LGBT promoter that they've scrubbed all her social media and her family social media. And really quick that we got it, it's that a smaller pool of women try to go be pilots. That's just something that they're doing. So. So you take a smaller pool, you lower standards so you can put more of these people in men. Doesn't mean there aren't fabulous women pilots or fabulous snipers. Women are just as good as shots as men, statistically. It's that there's less of them. And then they go and recruit women who really don't have the skills, and then they lower standards, and then you see what you get. So they tried to blame Trump for going after dei, even though he hadn't even put the policies in yet. And then this lady is DEI all the way. For folks that don't know in five years, you don't go from ROTC to commanding COG missions over the busiest airport in the world. I've studied COG missions and the types of people they have doing it, and they are the best of the best of the best. Well, they aren't anymore.

[Dan]

They were white men, damn it.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

There's no evidence for any of the stuff that Alex is saying. He sees a woman in a position that he feels like a man should be in, and his explanation for that is that they must have lowered the standards in order to get a woman into that position. Because of woke. Alex hasn't reviewed Rebecca's track record. He knows nothing about her qualifications. All he knows is that he's seeing a woman where he doesn't think she belongs. So he's created an entire social narrative about why that's happening, about lower standards. All of this shit that's just from his head. Pete Hegseth noted piece of shit and Secretary of Defense said that the helicopter was on a routine training mission involving cog, or continuity of government. This makes some sense in that plans are in place in case of an emergency that requires senior members of government evacuating from the D.C. area. If you're part of the military, you wouldn't want that emergency to come up and then everyone is just kind of winging it. I don't think that it's at all suspicious that a person who graduated from military training then rose to the rank of captain would be involved in a cog type exercise within five years. She wasn't planning who would be the designated survivor. She was practicing flying at night in case that was necessary in a crisis. The only thing I actually think is kinda fucked up about this whole aspect of the story is that Hegseth publicly said that the accident happened because the helicopter was doing COG training. He said it was part of, quote, routine annual retraining of night flights on a standard corridor. That seems like if you're trying to protect the continuity of government, like in the possibility of the US Capitol coming under attack, it isn't the best idea to say, like, we practice using the same corridor for evacuation.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Seems like information a potential enemy might want to know and use. That seems kind of strange.

[Jordan]

Whatever.

[Dan]

But the way Alex is covering the story I just think is disgusting.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. That's fucking nuts. That's just fucking nuts, man.

[Dan]

Yeah. Anyway, who Trump is doing his trade War sure victories, boy.

[Jordan]

We can have opinions about tariffs and at the same time beat our chest like a monkey, man. Very strange.

[Dan]

Well, the monkeys had tariffs that maybe.

[Jordan]

Have we studied monkey tariff law? Because we've been doing English Common English Commonwealth Law. Right. That's what we keep talking about.

[Dan]

Monroe Doctrine also.

[Jordan]

We can just say Monroe Doctrine. Yeah. And that I did. That just means things.

[Dan]

You see how my posture changed?

[Jordan]

I saw it. You said Monroe Doctrine and I was like, whoa, shit just got real.

[Dan]

My back straightened.

[Jordan]

A man just said Monroe Doctrine. Now he's cited something.

[Dan]

There can be no questions.

[Jordan]

Okay, fair enough.

[Dan]

I have not seen all of the new Planet of the Apes.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Did they get into tariffs in any of those?

[Jordan]

Man, that would be such an interesting way for that franchise to go to really go the full Phantom Menace. Now this is about trade disputes. Sure, yeah. Why not?

[Dan]

Well, I think because they want to make a compelling, interesting movie to watch all that.

[Jordan]

Well then what are you saying about Phantom Menace?

[Dan]

That it's not good. So Alex talks a little bit about the headlines covering Trump's trade war.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Alex Jones]

There's hundreds of these articles I see every day. Trump launches a baffling trade war against Canada and Mexico. Yeah, I mean, it's totally one sided. They won't let our goods in, particularly Canada. Won't even let US banks operate there. But then we're wide open to them. Same thing with Mexico. Very protectionist. And then all Trump wants is them to stop letting fentanyl pour in and let them manufacture it. There's there mean Trudeau lets them manufacture it, lets people use it up there. He's super unpopular. And so the media is just demonizing Trump like he's crazy. It makes no sense. Why would he say, we built the Panama Canal, don't give it to China? Why? Why would he tell the Mexican government, hey, you better put troops on your border and stop this invasion operation that they've been running with the UN in, or I'm gonna put tariffs on you? And then, oh, their president talked big. But as soon as the rubber met the road and Trump called her bluff, she rolled over. Donald Trump says America could feel pain thanks to tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China. And he went on to say, yeah, it doesn't mean you we won't feel something, but you've already been feeling the trade war you've been UN under. Here's another one out of the Wall Street Journal. The dumbest trade war fallout begins. So now they tell you the economy's going to crash, hoping you buy into it when they're the ones that already crashed the economy. Trump's move to put tariff hikes ahead of tax cuts has spooked almost everyone. Wall Street Journal. Oh, be spooked. Here's another one going the Great Depression lesson about trade wars. Lots about Great depression. Car prices face 3,000 increase as tariffs hit auto sector. Yeah, well, you'll just buy American.

[Dan]

So Alex says that the auto industry, that took a big hit, but that's fine. You'll just buy American cars.

[Jordan]

Damn it.

[Dan]

As it turns out, Trump ended. What he did was he exempted auto manufacturers from his tariffs. Well, that'll help, partially because the terms of his threats would have violated the US Mexico, Canada trade agreement that Trump signed in his first term, but also because it's very clear that imposing those tariffs broadly would destroy US Car companies.

[Jordan]

Gotcha.

[Dan]

Trump leads as a bully. He makes threats and he usually gets his way because he's a super rich asshole who doesn't care about other people. This is the style he's cultivated over the years as a businessman and as a celebrity. And he's carrying that over into governing, which is a huge problem. Problem. When you're a billionaire real estate guy, you can just treat an employee or contractor like shit, and then if they stand up for themselves, you can pull out the old catchphrase, you're fired. And then the problem seems to magically go away. Like if, you know, it's the episode of the Apprentice and the credits start rolling. Everything is good, but governing doesn't work like that. Trump is trying to bully all these other countries with these threats of giant tariffs, and they're just saying back, like, all right, we'll tariff your stuff back. Everyone knows that the threats being made only work if the other side relents, and the other sides here aren't really relenting. And to the extent that Alex is saying that, like, they rolled over or whatever, a lot of times it's symbolic concessions and stuff. They're already doing.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That Trump is then repackaging as a win.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is dumb, childish shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

US Banks can operate in Canada. They're just required to follow some regulations.

[Jordan]

That's. Then it's not really US Banks now, is it?

[Dan]

Alex just saw Trump tweet that US Banks can't operate in Canada. And like a good little servant, he's repeating the master's words unquestioningly. He's a real, real idiot.

[Jordan]

I mean, in a sense, they can't.

[Dan]

Really operate, you know, not US Style.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, US Banks want to go in there and really steal everybody's shit, and they're just not allowed.

[Dan]

Well, it's the same way that, like, Tim Hortons or A and W can operate in the US but not the same because we allow worse ingredients.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

You get a different experience across the border.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And banking is the same.

[Jordan]

So if I do, am I to understand. Here's what I think, and I could be wrong about this, but am I to understand that tariffs are functionally like sanctions in a sense that it's like we make the people feel like shit, so they'll put pressure on their government to not do the thing?

[Dan]

I mean, I don't know how much you need to know more than that, but, yeah, I guess it's sort of. It's supposed to be a lot based on industry, though.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Because let's say we have, you know, America and Canada both make cars.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

We charge extra for the cars that are coming in from Canada in order to encourage the prices American. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Totally get that.

[Dan]

That's the theory. But in essence, the way it's being used is very much like weapon. Alex even said that it's economic violence. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Sanctions.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

One person says, okay, we tax this, and then they go, fine, but you guys buy a lot of this, so we'll tax it, and then we're just going to wash. Except for you're fucking with real people's lives.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You're like a bunch of children.

[Dan]

And the people who are going to be affected by it are the people who get consumer goods where, you know, that's where the buck rolls down to. It's not going to affect Elon Musk and Trump or even Alex.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I've always been interested in that, that. It's always fascinating to me. The governments are always like, ah, we'll get the poor people and that'll change things.

[Dan]

But, you know, eventually there's the promise of like, after this hurdle, things will be better.

[Jordan]

There always seems to be.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But also, I think Alex is really, really thrown off by the headline that he read where Trump said that Americans are going to feel pain from the tariffs. Yeah, that's tough to spin. I think he gave it his best shot and I think it didn't work.

[Jordan]

I mean, yeah, the, the idea there is that you have to go, you have to go full jfk. You have to be like, yeah, we're going to paint it up so we can win Canada's cars. Turn it into a game.

[Dan]

Not what you can do for yourself, ask what you can do for your country.

[Jordan]

It makes perfect sense for us to think that that's not an incredibly insane thing to say. Yeah.

[Dan]

So Alex is not smart. Yeah, we know this. That's true from experience. About a thousand or so episodes of experiencing him not being smart.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And now he just comes out and says it, what?

[Alex Jones]

I'm not that smart. People continue to say, how the hell does Jones know things years ahead? The globalist war game. They think tank, they talk about their plans. It's come out in the new DOGE releases of USAID and these other out of control agencies.

[Dan]

Look at that pile.

[Alex Jones]

With trillions a year out of control, control trillion corporations and to their operatives and to themselves, talking about fomenting riots anywhere in the world where somebody doesn't do what they want. An overthrow of governments, including ours. That's coming up next hour. And so John Podesta said again in the fall of 2020, before the election, in a big war game the Democrats had, and the New York Times reported on it, that they were going to have blue states secede, create a civil war of Trump won, calling it a race war. Now, obviously they're going to need to kill a bunch of brown people and blame Trump. Well, they came back again and said, if he wins this time, we're going to do it again. And then I said, you'll have the illegal aliens protesting with the Democrats in Mass, you've got governors and mayors saying, stand up, fight back, act. You've got Pritzker up in Illinois signed a law just last week to change the name and give new identities to illegal aliens, including felons. You got the governor in New Jersey just came out and said, you know, we're going to house these people, we're going to protect them, we're going to all this crazy crap. That's a rebellion against federal law, that's illegal, that's aiding and abetting, that's organized crime, that's obstruction of justice.

[Dan]

It's true that Alex isn't very smart, but it's cool that he loves federal law now so much. The rest of the nonsense that he's talking about there, it's all bullshit and it's all disconnected from reality. We've talked about those talking points that he's hitting in the past, but that New Jersey one is new. I don't know if you know about this one.

[Jordan]

Hmm.

[Dan]

So the governor of New Jersey, Phil Murphy, was at a speaking engagement and he said, quote, I don't want to get into too much detail, but there's someone in our broader universe whose immigration status is not yet at the point that they're trying to get to. We said, you know what, let's have her live at our house above our garage and good luck to the feds trying to come in and get her. Obviously he was speaking at a left leaning event with mostly college age attendees, so he wanted to seem a bit more confrontational than he really is. There was backlash on right wing social media and the story made it to Fox News where border czar Tom Homan threatened to investigate the governor for hiding an undocumented immigrant. But then stuff got really weird. Murphy began to walk back his statement and his spokesperson said that his comments were just a hypothetical. The woman in the story didn't really exist. Or maybe she did. As the New York Times reported, quote, an aide to the governor clarified on Monday that the woman in question was in the country legally and had never lived on the Murphy family. The aide did not make clear what sort of relationship, if any, the woman had with the governor or his wife. To be clear, the headline for that story in the New York Times is, quote, a governor's bizarre comment made him a target of Trump's border czar. The top line of that story is how weird it is that Trump Murphy seems to have just made up this hypothetical situation to pretend that he's more defiant than he actually is. Yeah, because that's very strange. So I'll agree with Alex on this one that this is very weird. But if he was actually housing someone who was being hunted down.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

By the borders. I don't think that that'd be bad.

[Jordan]

This is all very weird.

[Dan]

It is.

[Jordan]

Everybody is making terrible decisions here. First off, if you are hiding Anne Frank, do not tell people. I would hide in Frank. Don't do that.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

But the hiding is not the problem.

[Jordan]

No, no, no.

[Alex Jones]

That's not weird at all.

[Jordan]

It's not the problem.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Telling people, first off, that's a huge problem. Problem. When you're hiding somebody, don't tell anybody.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

And then if you're not, don't tell anybody. Don't make it up that you are super weird in order to like sort of pump your chest in public.

[Jordan]

And then, you know what, let's do this. If you're the media, don't go looking for Anne Frank. What are you doing? What are you doing? She's hiding, man. What are you doing?

[Dan]

Yeah. I agree with you as, as a general guiding principle poll in this case, something very strange is going on.

[Jordan]

I'm on. I'm on your team. This is all fucking idiotic. Everybody needs to go home.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But it is yet another talking point of Alex's that just everybody do something else. Yeah.

[Jordan]

On this story specifically, I want every single person involved. Alex, just do something else.

[Dan]

Well, maybe you'll get your wish.

[Jordan]

I hope so.

[Dan]

Maybe Alex will start giving you a timeline of the false flags that are going to be carried.

[Jordan]

That would be nice. I would like a schedule.

[Dan]

You're in luck. Okay.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

They're going to try to crash the stock market. They're going to try to frame Trump. Then the truck bomb mass shooting of the illegal aliens protesting that are now, as I said in the last few weeks, it's going to get more and more violent, more and more intense as the NGOs give them the orders of the Soros radio stations, tell them to go out and be violent. That's confirmed. About all the key Spanish speaking ones.

[Jordan]

Oh, come on.

[Alex Jones]

So they can hype everybody up. Here's where ICE is. Go get them. Block this highway. Do that. And then when the military goes out, well, Trump's a dictator. And then the state sends professional teams to kill Trump and, and Trump understands that and knows that. And they're ready. And we're way ahead of the enemy. Me now, we're not naive.

[Dan]

Now this is fun storytelling. So I guess Soros bought up all the Spanish language radio stations so he can send completely undecodable messages to the footstools.

[Jordan]

Impossible.

[Dan]

This is a stupid plan.

[Jordan]

You would have to learn Spanish to understand these.

[Dan]

And who can do that?

[Jordan]

Nobody.

[Dan]

So this traces back to a 2022 right wing social media hysteria about two Spanish radio stations in Miami which were purchased by a group called the Latino Media Network Network, which is not run by Soros, but has received some funding from his affiliated groups. The big issue was WAQI or Radio Mambi, which is an AM station that's primarily attracted a Cuban American audience in Florida. The Cuban community is a fairly anti communist and Republican leaning group. So naturally there was outrage at the possibility of a non right wing aligned radio group buying a very prominent radio station that caters to this community. The fear was that it was an attempt to sway politics and hurt Trump's 2024 chances in Florida as well as Marco Rubio's run for Congress. Complaints were made to the FCC who looked into the sale and found no problem with it. And it went ahead. To be clear, I'm opposed to big companies owning a bunch of media entities. I think that media consolidation is largely a force of ill in the world and that no one should own multiple radio stations or newspapers. So I'm not in favor of Soros owning a bunch of stations. I'm just saying that Alex is not really reporting this story accurately. And I think part of the reason he can't do that is because if he did, he'd have to talk about how his entire worldview is essentially propped up by that very same force of market consolidation. If it weren't for the widespread ownership of radio stations all over the country by groups like Cumulus Media and Salem Radio Network, right wing talking head shows wouldn't have had the market saturation that they did in the 80s and 90s 90s, which is directly responsible for creating the atmosphere where shitheads like Alex can thrive. In some ways, Alex is afraid of the idea of Soros buying up a bunch of radio stations because he knows that's what his guys did and it's pretty effective or it was in that era of time. And I think that he knows that and that's why you can't really.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. It, it makes you despair of ever learning a lesson, you know, like, because it feels like that whole maybe don't give all of the media to a very small group of people with all the money and then also let them own other stuff. That feels like a lesson we've already learned.

[Dan]

It does.

[Jordan]

It feels like we've we've moved past that one.

[Dan]

We should have.

[Jordan]

We should have.

[Dan]

We've. We've learned the lesson but not implemented the lesson.

[Jordan]

Cuz it's not like it was a new lesson, you know, like it goes way back.

[Dan]

It does.

[Jordan]

We've got all these books where. It's in there.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

Books where there was like 10 guys. There was only like 10 guys. And even then they were like, can't let one guy have all this stuff. So uncomplicated. Yeah. Oh, well, what you gonna do?

[Dan]

So I remember at the beginning of this episode, well, first of all, we're supposed to find out what Trump told Alex.

[Jordan]

I do recall that.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah. We haven't really talked about that.

[Dan]

Sure haven't.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

But I also remember that Alex was gonna give insight into the grand strategy and that Trump his whole thing.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

So he comes back from break and I'm going to play this entire segment in pieces.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

But I'm going to play the whole thing.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Each clip overlaps with the next.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

Because I think this is important.

[Alex Jones]

All right. I said I would get into what the Trump grand strategy is last hour. And I got into it some, but I think it's really important to spend a few minutes on it because I haven't really seen it defined by anybody properly. I know the American system, I've studied it. Trump has made a lot of references to it. You can see it's, it's in everything he's doing when he commissioned the last four years expert historical societies to, you know, have his 1776 project, which I really agreed with and thought was great, great. He said, I intend to implement this. And people seem to think, oh, that's, you know, 1776. That's 250 years ago. That's an old system. No, it was the Renaissance and the very best thinking that the world ever produced. And those philosophies applied to modern times work even better than they did back then. So it's Back to the Future. It's the latest, best system. We've just been abandoning it since the end of World War II and then didn't just completely abandon it, became to a great extent the opposite of it.

[Dan]

This all means nothing. That's just a bunch of filler words that amount to zero. I'm curious about what Alex is trying to like succinctly describe as Trump's philosophy, but this just feels like a padded Monroe Doctrine. Exactly. Like that's nothing. That's. Get to it, Dick.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What do you. What is it? What's the American system? Renaissance.

[Jordan]

It's the American system.

[Dan]

Back to the future.

[Jordan]

It's the best thinking anybody ever came up with.

[Dan]

Cool. What is it?

[Jordan]

It's the best thinking.

[Dan]

All right, please go on, Alex.

[Jordan]

Thinking more.

[Dan]

You have all the time you need.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Alex Jones]

We've just been abandoning it since the end of World War II and then didn't just completely abandon it became to a great extent, the opposite of it. But pulling out of this suicide death cult is not going to be easy. And I saw a Babylon Be joke piece that Elon retweeted, reposted yesterday, and it basically said, you know, MSM begs Trump to slow down because he's exhausted them. It's not exhausting me. I'm frustrated that I can't fight as hard as I want to, and that's because I don't have a big enough crew and I want to work 18, 20 hours a day. And I. I expect people can't do that all the time.

[Dan]

Time.

[Alex Jones]

The crew's been working 12, 14, 15, 18 hours a day. And I. I have a lot of big original research stories that are extremely important, and I just can't release them because I'm not going to release them half ass.

[Dan]

So this is all still saying nothing. Like he's supposed to be crystallizing Trump's philosophy. And so far we've got blow hard platitudes about the Renaissance and then Alex complaining that his staff doesn't work hard enough. This is dead air.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is nothing.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You know, I think. Here's what I'm thinking. All right. Do you remember when Leno used to do headlines?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And he would just put close ups of typos in newspapers on the television and then would repeat them.

[Dan]

What do you think about that?

[Jordan]

And then everyone would laugh. They would be like, ah, that's not where a T goes. That was supposed to be a picture. Right. I feel like that's where we're at now with all headline based humor. Like, I don't even know what is there a joke there in, like, MSM begs Trump to slow down because they're exhausted. That feels like a reasonable headline these days, honestly.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But it's funny.

[Jordan]

It's not, though.

[Dan]

It's not really.

[Jordan]

It's not at all.

[Dan]

No. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. And there's a other layer of it that is. Alex's like his version of Jay Leno doing that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is just looking at tweets.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They aren't even really headlines.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

Because I think some of the Fun of the Jay Leno bit is that no one caught this and it went to print, I guess. And that has to get over that hurdle before it's funny.

[Jordan]

See, look at this.

[Dan]

Whereas anybody could have tweeted anything.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Dan]

It kind of takes away the, the exclusivity of it.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Because there, there was an element of elitism bashing with the headlines of like, see how smart people even make mistakes that maybe a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is not that.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Dan]

But I want to know what Trump's philosophy is. And I feel like we've taken a hard turn into Alex not having enough money and his staff doesn't work hard enough.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And nothing really could have prepared me for the direction that this takes. Breaks. I really felt bad. This made me really fucking sad.

[Jordan]

Oh boy.

[Dan]

In a way that's also. I'm laughing.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

I hate this piece of shit.

[Jordan]

Fair enough.

[Dan]

But it's also really sad.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

I have a lot of big original research stories that are extremely important and I just can't release them because I'm not going to release some half ass and I'm tortured because our enemies are very easy to beat. And when I get up here over the years and say we've done one of the best jobs fighting the bad guys, that doesn't mean. I'm saying I've done a great job. That scares the out of me. I mean, we're up against horrible open demons that want to kill everybody and have a plan to incrementally cut everything off until we're to that point. And wherever they get control of a third world country, they outright do it. And the fact that I've done one of the best jobs and the fact that more prominent people didn't join us in this fight is insane. Now you've got Elon Musk and Trump in there wrecking them. And I see the enemy coming in with their counter attack and I see so many conservatives and populists and people that want to live, you know, good people celebrating and oh, everything's fine and we're unstoppable and that enthusiasm is great and we should be thankful. But I mean, they're getting ready to crash stock market and they're getting ready to blow up and shoot up a bunch of illegal aliens. So, you know, people better get their heads out of their asses and get that straight. But I mean, I got these federal documents and I'm not even going to release them. We'll it up. Doesn't matter. It, I mean, seriously, I mean I just. I got total proof of the whole Deep State. Everything will just it to everything's so.

[Jordan]

Sick of Chucky Schumer.

[Dan]

Wow, that's really depressing. So in case you can't translate Alex's language, what he's saying is that celebrating victories doesn't make money. Keeping the audience scared about the devil being just about to attack does. The benefactors of the right wing are getting exactly what they wanted right now. Now public spending is under attack. They're gonna gut Social Security and Medicare. Regulations meant to keep corporations from profiting by predatory means are going to be removed. There's really nothing but celebrating to do if you're living in the real world of the gop. They profit from the destruction of the state and the empowerment of companies, not by keeping idiots terrified. So they buy CMOs. They have real power now. So it's kind of dumb to keep pretending that some shadowy group is just waiting in the wings to strike. It was usually that's Alex's job though. And that's a big part of why the folks who were seeking power thought he was useful enough to put up with in case the stock market crashes. It's good to have a guy like Alex around who was screaming about how it wasn't your fault if there's a domestic terror attack against people defending immigrant rights. It's really useful to have a guy like Alex yelling about how a false flag was coming when you need him. It's good to have him around, but on the day to day it's really embarrassing to act like that. This, and I think that this is some of the tension in the aftermath of the inauguration. Alex has to know that his team doesn't need him now, that they have real power to work with. And his only real value is to continue to yell that the sky is falling and that it's all the globalists fault so he can be used to help make a scapegoat for the consequences of what they do now when they have real power. I feel an emptiness. And that shot out to broken Drake is grim. Gone is the Alex who is ready to go pretend to get arrested rather than give his fingerprint at the dmv. And now here we have an Alex who has secret federal documents given to him by the President that would blow the lid off the Deep State and prove all his conspiracies. But he's not gonna cover it because he would just fuck it up. He's right. In a hypothetical sense there isn't a big story here. But if he did have A big story. He would fuck it up.

[Jordan]

He would fuck it up.

[Dan]

It's just wild to think that he actually knows that. That he understands how incapable he is of being a journalist.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I just fuck this up. I'd fuck everything up. All I could do is.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, it does feel like he should be living in a moment. The moment that I think I've had where you realize I am making my own position obsolete. That was a huge mistake to not have negotiated a next thing if I am ending my own job.

[Dan]

I had that at an office where I trained my replacement.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And as it was happening, I was like, this isn't gonna.

[Jordan]

This is not good.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

This is not good. I should just leave. Yeah.

[Dan]

Alex should carve his own path. This is pathetic. And I think that there's some awareness that he has that it's like, they'll come back if they need me.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But they don't fucking need me now. They have power.

[Jordan]

Right. Right. Right.

[Dan]

There's. He has to know.

[Jordan]

I, I. What I find fascinating, Right. Is that, you know, like, I know a lot of people who are too poor, but somehow we also give money to people who can't properly enjoy it. And so you have shit like this where it's like, man, don't do this. Don't do this. I know so many people who could live just a super happy life on, like, one tenth of what he has.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And somehow he hoards it and still can't live a happy life.

[Dan]

Yeah. He's just straight up miserable.

[Jordan]

It is insane to me.

[Dan]

And I think that's because, you know, it is the way that he's making that money that is corrupt. Like, he's shitting on people and hurting people and exploiting that. Like, I think he. I think that that's just a bad ecosystem. And I think the fruits of it are, you're just gonna be miserable. And I'm glad.

[Jordan]

I mean, it's earned.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

The misery is earned.

[Dan]

Yeah. I'm very conflicted because on the one hand, as an empathetic human being, I hear somebody who's saying stuff like, you know, I can't report on the devil. I have all the proof, but I just fuck it up.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And I feel bad for that person.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Because that', hey, hey, keep your chin up, Alex. That kind of thing. You know, you don't like to see a guy in that kind of state. But on the other hand, I fucking hate him. And I would like him to feel like that.

[Jordan]

I mean, I'm. I'm Becoming of the opinion that misery is a consequence. And if you stay miserable, then that's on you. So fuck you. There's the idea is if you're miserable, do a different thing.

[Dan]

I think. I think in some cases that, that that is true, but I think that not all misery is a choice. But fair enough. I just couldn't. I don't know. I don't have the will to live after that.

[Jordan]

It's not great. Like, fuck it. I. The other thing is, like, how many people are just going to get bigger and not grow up? There's a lot of those people.

[Dan]

Sure, sure.

[Jordan]

He's a child.

[Dan]

I feel like if I hear a clip like that, I never would have been curious about this person. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I think that there's something so interesting about Alex, the guy who wouldn't give his fingerprint at the dmv.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, there's something really bold about that. And they're like, even though it's full of shit and he's faking all this and it's mostly bravado, like, there's still something that is enticing about this character. The guy who has proof of the devil that the president gave him, who is too whiny to fucking get to it. That's not interesting. That is a pathetic husk of a person.

[Alex Jones]

And.

[Dan]

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have another clip here, but I don't even know if you need to play it. It's just when he comes back from break, he tries to self suit by describing violent fantasies and then accusing that New Jersey governor of being a pedophile.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I think we'll be all right.

[Dan]

But it's just interesting that that's what he can do.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know that you return to that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's his sucking his thumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

He has this little bit of an outburst and then is just like, ah, the black people are gonna get shot at a rally.

[Jordan]

What do you gotta do to a kid to make racism. Sucking their thumb, you know?

[Dan]

Hmm.

[Jordan]

Like, what is it that you do to a child that later on as an adult they go, oh, people that have different skin color are worse than me.

[Dan]

Unfortunately, his dad won't be on the show, so we don't. Yeah, we can't find out.

[Jordan]

But I do feel like there should be a study.

[Dan]

Well, I mean, I've read some of the John Birch Society literature and I think I have some clues.

[Jordan]

I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure Dr. James Dobson is somewhere involved.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So anyway, cut out here and everyone can feel bad about Alex being a dick.

[Jordan]

Or feel great about it.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Feel great about it.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Fuck that guy.

[Dan]

What a great moment.

[Jordan]

He could do anything else. He could.

[Dan]

I just. I don't know.

[Jordan]

He could do anything. I bet he could probably fix a car.

[Dan]

Here's what I would say. I think if you have secret information.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And you can't reveal it, don't tell people. You can't reveal it because you look weak now.

[Jordan]

Right. If you're hiding Anne Frank, don't tell people that she's gonna be above your garage.

[Dan]

Right. Or if you have proof of the devil's giant conspiracy, you are now covering for it.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You are now part of the COVID up, Alex.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. I don't know, just do something else. Go to the woods.

[Dan]

That would be nice.

[Jordan]

Just be a woods guy.

[Dan]

Mm, sure.

[Jordan]

Those guys exist. They just live out in the woods.

[Dan]

Woods guys.

[Jordan]

Be one of those guys.

[Dan]

Sure. Yeah, it would be good. I mean, I also wouldn't mind doing that myself. I'd like to go to the woods.

[Jordan]

Sure. We're all getting there. But hey, used to live in the trees, buddy.

[Dan]

And shall again. Back to the future.

[Jordan]

That was when we had our best idea.

[Dan]

So we'll check in and see if Alex has some other better ideas later. And see if we find out what his federal documents are.

[Jordan]

Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

But on a scale of zero to pinky ring. Where is it?

[Jordan]

I feel like we're gonna have to stay at a zero.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think so too. Anyway, we'll be back. But until then, we have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.

[Dan]

Yep, we'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the sex robots.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Jordan]

Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.