#1017: February 4, 2025

Summary

Knowledge Fight Episode #1017: February 4, 2025

Release Date: March 17, 2025
Hosts: Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jordan review and analyze Alex Jones’s February 4, 2025, broadcast. The show explores Alex’s self-proclaimed “laser focus” and the rapidly shifting post-inauguration landscape. Throughout, Dan and Jordan highlight the performative and contradictory nature of Jones’s rhetoric, particularly as he responds to stories involving Elon Musk, AOC, and Bill Gates. Instead of substantive coverage, the episode descends into rambling gloating, grievance, and self-mythologizing—underscoring the hollow, performative aspects of Jones’s media ecosystem.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Banter & Bright Spots (00:59–06:20)

• Jordan and Dan's "Bright Spots"

  • Dan finds a 50-cent piece on the ground, leading to nostalgia and a light-hearted discussion of rare coins (01:17).
  • The duo riffs on Arby’s slogan “We have the meats”—both delight in the slogan’s aggressive tone and speculate on its origin and the potential audition process for its delivery (02:04–03:42).
  • Jordan’s bright spot is the new Bon Iver album. He reflects how the experience of being a “music type” shifts with age: “There was a certain type of person…now it’s just old people, man. That’s where we’re at” (04:09).

• Transition to Episode’s Tone

  • Dan finds the day’s Jones episode “a bummer” (06:33), noting Alex appears rudderless and unable to respond meaningfully to fast-paced reality.

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2. Listener Shoutouts & Alex’s Melodrama (06:36–08:45)

• Patron Acknowledgments: Dan and Jordan welcome new “policy wonks” and a technocrat.
• Jones’s Melodrama: Alex is heard on a montage, threatening to quit broadcasting, indulging in “breakdowns on air,” and proclaiming his supposed oppositional power:

  “Maybe today should be my last broadcast… I never want to come back here again…” (07:12–08:08)

Analysis

• Dan: “Alex’s little rudderless. There’s a bit of inability to deal with reality because reality is moving fast.” (08:08)
• Jordan: “We’re in a jinn story…we’re getting ironic twists to all of our wishes…” (08:45)

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3. Alex’s Embrace of “Laser Focus” (10:21–13:24)

• Alex promises discipline:

  “You’re not going to get the preaching because I’m going to control myself…I am holding myself in a very short leash. You are going to get laser focus. Bam, bam, bam...” (10:34–11:22)

Immediate Contradiction

• Alex immediately launches into effusive gloating over Trump and Musk:

  “Trump has outperformed my wildest dreams. Elon Musk has surpassed my wildest desires…the fact that Trump and Elon and all of their team laugh in the face of the squeaking, squawking, pedophilic criminals…” (11:57)

• Dan: “So much for the not pontificating and preaching thing.” (13:24)
• Jordan: “This is a laser beam. It’s not very focused.” (13:27)

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4. Metaphors, Rambling, and Performative Aggression (13:24–21:57)

• Sumo Wrestler Metaphor

  • Alex’s overwrought analogy about “being held underwater for four minutes by a sumo wrestler” (11:57).
  • Dan & Jordan riff on the inaccuracy and the problematic use of “savage” in reference to Sumo.

    Jordan: “Savagery is simply not allowed.” (14:40) Dan: “No such thing as a savage Sumo.” (15:06)

• Movie and Military Allusions

  • Patton, Full Metal Jacket, and Conan the Barbarian are all invoked as Alex fumbles for gravitas and frames his struggle in terms of war and domination.

    Alex: “Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest.” (18:39) “Conan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies… and the latimentation [sic] of the women. Good. That’s right.” (21:03)

  • Dan: “We’re focused, very focused. Rambling about Full Metal Jacket, weaving that seamlessly into a scene from Conan.” (21:11)
  • Jordan: “There’s not a whole lot of things to grab onto and be like, ah, here’s what he’s talking about.” (21:42)

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5. Alex’s Personal Mythmaking & Childhood (21:57–30:47)

• Self-Mythologizing from Sandy Hook Trials

  • Alex claims, in court, he prioritized “crushing the globalists” over truth.

    “In the rig trial, they go, is the most important thing in your life to be accurate. And I said, no, it’s crushing the globalists like you.” (23:42)

  • Analysis: Dan and Jordan point out this is pure fiction—a revisionist self-justification.

• Violence and Family Narrative

  • Alex recounts his father advising him to use a rock on a bully:

    “…have you considered murder? This indicates a complete disinterest on Alex’s dad’s part toward getting involved in his son’s life.” (27:17–28:25)

  • Dan frames Alex’s lifelong crusade as a childlike replay of attempting to win his father’s approval via violence and dominance over “bullies.”

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6. Actual “News”: AOC, Elon Musk & Information Warfare (31:40–47:29)

• AOC and Cauliflower Disinformation

  • Alex mocks AOC, recycling a debunked claim that she made “cauliflower” a racial issue—a clear distortion of a six-year-old video about community gardens.

    “Cauliflower was just an example that she used of a plant that wasn’t used in much, like, Puerto Rican cooking…” (35:29, Dan’s fact-check)

• AOC vs. Elon Musk

  • The real new event: AOC said “Elon Musk isn’t smart.”
  • Alex:

    “Elon Musk is the most intelligent person on the planet. When it comes to wide spectrum knowledge and force of will, AOC is one of the most un self aware people on Earth…” (38:06)

  • Dan and Jordan ridicule the defensiveness and hero-worship of Musk, noting the cultish nature of this defense:

    “What is it about this man that people cannot cross the line of being like, oh, he’s an idiot?” (39:37, Jordan)

• Pseudo-Intellectualism on Intelligence

  • Alex launches into a faux-profound monologue on “broad spectrum intelligence,” from immune system health to “musical intelligence,” all just to defend Musk (42:43–44:43).

    Dan: “If you pay attention, it’s really easy to see the trends and who gets to enjoy the benefits of having broad spectrum intelligence and who’s judged by their imagined low IQ. It’s mostly if Alex thinks you’re white.” (43:26)

• Superficial Attacks on AOC

  “The only intelligence she has is a little bit of charisma. That’s it…Not ugly. But she’s so stupid, she’s really ugly to me.” (46:44)

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7. The “AI Expert” & USAID “Exposé” (49:29–81:45)

• Guest Segment: Peter Bernegger

  • Jones introduces Peter Bernegger as a “top researcher,” “instrumental” in exposing election fraud and now government finances (49:29–73:18).
  • Dan fact-checks: Bernegger is a convicted fraudster from a catfish gelatin scam and has been criminally charged for document tampering in pursuit of 2020 election denial conspiracies (73:35–75:37).

    Court quote: “[Bernegger] replied, ‘They can’t handle the truth.’” (75:01) Dan: “He’s a career scammer who’s found the perfect community to insulate himself into...” (75:57) Jordan: “Occasionally we will turn this show into a wildlife documentary. …This is how the con men swim upstream to get to their breeding grounds. Of course they make this journey to Infowars in order to lay the fucking eggs…” (76:24)

• Claims about USAID Funding

  • Alex and Bernegger allege USAID is bankrolling the BBC, Reuters, and media attacks on conservatives, especially Musk (77:35).
  • Dan’s debunk:
    • USAID contributed not to the BBC, but to an independent charity (BBC Media Action).
    • Reuters contract was about cybersecurity and not political coverage, and was initiated under Trump.
    • The contracts/organizations are misrepresented; the entire “scandal” is a pile of selectively misrepresented or meaningless data. (78:22–79:59)

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8. Bill Gates, Pandemic Paranoia, and Surreal Melodrama (54:00–70:49)

• Typical Jones Demonization

  • Bill Gates called the “field marshal of the death cult’s depopulation plan,” apparently now threatening to unleash 60 bioweapons if the government defunds USAID (54:34–55:02).
  • Jones refers to statements by Dr. David Martin, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist, to build this plot (55:04).
  • Dan: “If you believed any piece of this, you couldn’t risk him living another day… Just call for his blood or whatever, that’s what you’re supposed to be doing.” (56:15, paraphrased for clarity)

• Rapid Fire Contradictions

  • Alex claims Gates is under total surveillance by Trump’s government (70:49), which would contradict his portrayal of Gates as a free and omnipotent evil genius.

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9. Shakespeare, Fake Christianity, and The View (59:22–64:33)

• Jones Self-Aggrandizement

  • Reminisces about his mother reading him Shakespeare and how quoting Shakespeare online led to accusations of not being a true Christian (59:22–61:54).

    “Well, not your type of Christian, I’ll assure you. No, not the people that sit around…telling you how holy they are. …We’ll do the heavy lifting from here.” (61:54)

• Rage at Bill Gates on The View

  • Alex fulminates about Gates appearing on The View, accuses him of murder, and says “I’m not ever gonna forget about it.” (63:53–64:33)
  • Dan: “The only way they’ll ever be able to get anything done is by causing gigantic messes that need to be dealt with in the courts…” (65:52–67:54)

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10. Concluding Fatigue and Recap (81:02–end)

• Both hosts reflect on the con-man ecosystem of Jones’s show and America’s inexplicable affection for grifters.

  “America…Just give us a little twinkle in the eye and we’ll all move on.” (81:53, Jordan)

• Lightheartedly riff about the rivalry between Hillshire Farms and Arby’s for “the meats” (83:23).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Alex on His Mission:

  “What is best in life? To have a falcon on your wrist and to have the wind of the steps in your hair…Conan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And the ladimentation of the women.”
  — Alex Jones (20:51–21:03)

• On Intelligent vs “Libtard” Thinking:

  “The average libtard is taught good start spectrum analysis. Not even third dimensional understanding…They don’t even know that real intelligence is not quantified by a simple IQ test…Real intelligence is having a conscience…musical intelligence, physical intelligence…”
  — Alex Jones (43:43–44:43)

• On His Own Father:

  “…my dad said…have you considered murder?”
  — summarized by Dan (27:17)

• On Information War Superiority:

  “We have information warfare superiority and the public’s not asleep anymore.”
  — Alex Jones (15:21)

• Dan’s Core Critique:

  “He’s pretty comfortable with the toxic information space that he’s helped usher in. And now Elon essentially presides over. The narrative is what’s important, because the narrative is what ushers human attention. …Trick them.” (15:42–16:57)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment Topic | Start Time | |--------------------------------------|-------------| | Banter & Bright Spots | 00:59–06:20 | | Listener Shoutouts & Melodrama | 06:36–08:45 | | “Laser Focus” Claims by Alex | 10:21–13:24 | | Movie Metaphors & Aggression | 13:24–21:57 | | Personal Mythmaking/Childhood | 21:57–30:47 | | AOC vs. Musk & Info Warfare | 31:40–47:29 | | “AI Expert” & USAID Stuff | 49:29–81:45 | | Bill Gates Rant & Pandemic Paranoia | 54:00–70:49 | | Shakespeare, Christianity, The View | 59:22–64:33 | | Conclusion & Debrief | 81:02–end |

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

• Dan and Jordan’s Tone: Wry, world-weary, and incredulous; they consistently undercut Jones’s grandiosity and expose the logical and factual emptiness behind his bluster.
• Alex Jones’s Tone: Alternates between pseudo-martial grandstanding, self-pity, and gloating; lacks any real narrative rigor or factual grounding.

Summary Judgment:
Despite Alex Jones’s repeated claim of “laser focus,” the episode is a scattershot spectacle of bravado, conspiracy, and petty feuds. Rather than meaningful news or insight, listeners are left with a portrait of an ecosystem in collapse—relying on recycled paranoia, self-mythologizing, and a steady stream of con artists in lieu of reality.

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For Actual Content Seekers:
Skip this episode if you’re looking for concrete news or insight. But if you’re interested in the anatomy of media grifting, self-myth-making, and the collapse of narrative discipline on the conspiratorial right, it’s a revealing case study.

Transcript

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Dan Friesen]

Red alert.

[Jordan Holmes]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Dan Friesen]

Red alert.

[Jordan Holmes]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert. Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge, Dan and Jordan. Knowledge Fight. Need. Need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy. Andy, stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.

[Jordan Holmes]

Hello, Alex.

[Dan Friesen]

I'm a. I'm a huge fan.

[Alex Jones]

I love your word.

[Jordan Holmes]

Knowledge Fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan Friesen]

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm dad.

[Jordan Holmes]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan Friesen]

We're a couple dudes like to sit worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Dan Friesen]

Dan, Jordan. Dan, Jordan.

[Jordan Holmes]

Quick question for you.

[Dan Friesen]

Sup?

[Jordan Holmes]

What you brights about today, buddy?

[Dan Friesen]

I've got two because they're kind of small.

[Jordan Holmes]

All right.

[Dan Friesen]

So we'll just use them. They'll add up to one.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

I was walking down the street the other day and I found a 50 cent piece on the ground.

[Jordan Holmes]

I'm sorry, what?

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Really?

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. And I was like, I haven't seen one of these things in a long time.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's crazy.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. And it was on the ground.

[Dan Friesen]

It was on the ground. Strange coin. Anyway, I was like, this is exciting. It took me back to being a kid.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

Finding a JFK half dollar on the.

[Jordan Holmes]

Ground, that's really exciting.

[Dan Friesen]

It's not exciting to find a dime or a quarter or a penny.

[Jordan Holmes]

Absolutely not.

[Dan Friesen]

50 cent piece, though. Pretty crazy.

[Jordan Holmes]

And it's not about the money. The 50 cent piece is unusual.

[Dan Friesen]

It's just weird.

[Jordan Holmes]

It's weird.

[Dan Friesen]

You don't see it often.

[Jordan Holmes]

For what purpose do you have a 50 cent piece?

[Dan Friesen]

I don't know. Someone usually would have to ask for it.

[Alex Jones]

Of course.

[Dan Friesen]

So this, this, this came from somewhere. And so anyway, I just get. It would brighten my day up a little bit. So it's a bright spot.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's great.

[Dan Friesen]

Second, I saw an Arby's commercial.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

And I do love their slogan, we have the meats.

[Jordan Holmes]

Great slogan.

[Dan Friesen]

Because it sounds hostile.

[Jordan Holmes]

There's no way to hear it from Ving Rhames voice without being like, Jesus Christ. Guys, I get it. You have the meats.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. I feel like I did a. I did a bunch of voiceover auditions back in the day, did not land any of those gigs. But I did record a bunch of stuff, and I know that when you're doing voiceover, the ad agencies and the people will tell you how to read something.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And the way that it's delivered is like, it's not being like, hey, we got all these meats. It's. We have the meats. And you don't.

[Jordan Holmes]

You better fucking believe we've got.

[Dan Friesen]

You've got control of the meat.

[Jordan Holmes]

How dare you step to us about the meats.

[Dan Friesen]

I think there's something really fun about that. Anyway, I hate advertising, and I think it's a corrupt industry, but I do think that's a really funny slogan delivered that way.

[Jordan Holmes]

And also. But here's the funniest part about it to me is that somebody came up with the slogan right before the. The voiceover. So what was that like before the, like, vaguely threatening, we have the meat. You know, what was it like? Just some dude in a. In a room, Draper style.

[Dan Friesen]

I think here's where the kernel of the idea comes from.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

Arby's is a roast beef place.

[Jordan Holmes]

That is true.

[Dan Friesen]

And so they have that meat.

[Jordan Holmes]

They have.

[Dan Friesen]

But then they tried to branch out into other things, like chicken and, you know, fish sandwiches.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

And so I think they needed to assert their broad meat status.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay. Okay. So you think that there's a certain amount of, like, y' all think we're just roast beef?

[Dan Friesen]

No, no, no. We got this.

[Jordan Holmes]

We have meat.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

I think that that probably is where it began. And then they're like, what if we could make it hostile?

[Jordan Holmes]

Who do we get to deliver this?

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

James Earl Jones is dead.

[Dan Friesen]

So Samuel L. Jackson's not returning our calls. He could have been pretty hostile about the meats.

[Jordan Holmes]

He would have been, really.

[Dan Friesen]

Oh, he's already doing all the. What's in your.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right, right, right. We can't afford that anyway.

[Dan Friesen]

What's your bright spot?

[Jordan Holmes]

My bright spot. Bonaver has a new album out.

[Dan Friesen]

Okay.

[Jordan Holmes]

And I enjoy it. I like it a lot. But here's what I like the most about it. And I realized this while. Whenever I got it and I was playing it and listening to it, I was like, I remember when listening to Bonaver or that kind of. There was a certain type of person. There was like a hipster. There was like a.

[Dan Friesen]

A Bon of air type.

[Jordan Holmes]

There was a Bon Iver type. Right. And now it's just old people, man. Do you know what I'm saying? That's how. That's where we're at. You don't need to feel worried about. Oh, I'm a blank. Or I'm a metal guy. Or I'm the. Now you're old.

[Dan Friesen]

Yep. Now you're old and he's old.

[Jordan Holmes]

This is great. I love it. I cannot believe that people got mad in the, like, oh, kids these days. I have seen what the kids do. Absolutely incomprehensible to you. Skibidi toilet.

[Dan Friesen]

Right.

[Jordan Holmes]

You know, I don't know exactly.

[Dan Friesen]

Mm.

[Jordan Holmes]

So I'm just old. I'm happy with it.

[Alex Jones]

You're in your.

[Dan Friesen]

There's no more pretense around your music. There's just a. This college rock guy from when I would have been college age.

[Jordan Holmes]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Remember you were the guy who listened to Led Zeppelin when in the 90s. You're fine, you're fine. You're just old fine.

[Dan Friesen]

Yep. And one day, post Malone will be that.

[Jordan Holmes]

Absolutely. Exactly. The cycle of, you know, it's like.

[Dan Friesen]

A guy who I only know from an Oreo.

[Jordan Holmes]

No doubt that there was somebody who's like, oh, my God, you're still listening to Strauss. Jesus Christ, man. You know, like, we're just old. We all get old.

[Dan Friesen]

Good winter. That's what it means. That's a bon iver means, right?

[Jordan Holmes]

I genuinely have no idea. Is that what it means?

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

I see. Half the time I'm just like, oh, they just found a collection of noises that's French, like tame impala. They. They're not talking.

[Dan Friesen]

I don't know if that translates to anything.

[Jordan Holmes]

It doesn't. I think it's liter. A tame Impala.

[Dan Friesen]

The car?

[Jordan Holmes]

No, the. The animal.

[Dan Friesen]

Oh, that.

[Jordan Holmes]

The car is named after.

[Dan Friesen]

I thought we gained control over machine. We had.

[Jordan Holmes]

Did you think we domesticated control over machines at one point?

[Dan Friesen]

I have questions.

[Jordan Holmes]

Fair enough. I think that's good to have these days.

[Dan Friesen]

I'm glad you're enjoying that album, Jordan.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, it's great.

[Dan Friesen]

So today we have an episode to go over. We're gonna be talking about February 4, 2025. This episode bums me out, okay? It's. It's. I don't know. It bums me out.

[Jordan Holmes]

It's just a bummer.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, he's a bummer.

[Jordan Holmes]

He's okay.

[Dan Friesen]

But we'll get down to business on that in a second. But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan Holmes]

Ooh, that's a great idea.

[Dan Friesen]

So first lineaker sues sky. Awooga. Thank you so much. You're not policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan Holmes]

Thank you very much.

[Dan Friesen]

Next. Happy birthday, Thomas. Rose Byrne is in this movie And I'm gonna shit my pants. Love, Spilliam. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan Holmes]

Thank you very much.

[Dan Friesen]

Thank you. And Idahoans fighting fascists. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan Holmes]

Thank you very much.

[Dan Friesen]

Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Harley Christmas will fight the global council of neighborhood cats, but only after her nap. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little break, you know, a little breaky for me, and then we're going to come back and I'm gonna start the show over. But I'm the devil. I gotta be taking off here. I'll be doing all this. You. You. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, you and your new world order and the horse you rode in on and all your. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. Nah, no.

[Dan Friesen]

Nah, you won't be. So I think that we've seen in the time after the inauguration that Alex's little rudderless. There's a bit of inability to deal with reality because reality is moving fast. And reality, in a lot of ways, looks like a lot of stuff that he wants.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

But also a lot of it looks like really, really bad stuff. And were he to take the time to look into any of this stuff, report on any of these things in a meaningful way, I think he would be forced to confront like, oh, shit, this isn't good.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, there's a little bit of. We're in a jinn story wherein we're. We're getting ironic twists to all of our wishes. But in the stories, they go like, ah, this sucks. But in this, we're just like, actually, I think this is great. And the gin is like, no, no, no, this is really bad. Like, it's really bad. He's like, no, I think it's great.

[Dan Friesen]

There's a twist to me granting your wish. Are you not realizing that?

[Jordan Holmes]

I'm not even thinking about it. You Know what I am? I'm just grateful that my wish is granted.

[Dan Friesen]

Okay.

[Jordan Holmes]

That is. Oh, that's not good.

[Dan Friesen]

Oh, you're gonna run into a wall.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, well, but it's a nice wall, isn't it?

[Dan Friesen]

I guess it is. So I have, you know, I've gone through this fairly slowly, and part of the reason for that is that I. I would like this feeling to be understood of his time after the. The inauguration. I would like that because I think that's the most important thing. The way that this show does not work in.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

This context.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

It becomes a farce of itself in many ways. And I think that point's been made. I think that, you know, at a certain point, we'll have to pick up and get closer to present day. But I think that at the end of the last episode when Alex is saying, like, I've got all this secret information, but we'll just fuck it up if we try and cover it, I feel like that's about as cathartic of a blah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

As you're gonna get.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And I think that maybe Alex felt a little bit of like, all right, I've fucked around. I didn't get down to business.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay, so pre. You're priming us for this episode. Maybe Alex woke up that morning like, eye of the tiger plan. And he's like, let's do this.

[Dan Friesen]

It certainly seems to be the mood he's in.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

I am super focused like a laser be beam. And we have an incredible top researcher with the AI maps of US Aid and other slish funds who will be joining us in the third hour. Then Roger Stone into the fourth with huge breaking exclusive intel. And then we've just got masses of incredible news that I must and I will cover today. You're not going to get the preaching because I'm going to control myself and the pontificating because I am holding myself in a very short leash. You are going to get laser focus. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

[Jordan Holmes]

I feel like this is not 460.

[Alex Jones]

Plus radio stations now that carry this exploding populous pro human transmission. That is a weapon system of truth.

[Dan Friesen]

So Alex, I think, is giving you the sense that he knows he's gotta get down to business. He's gotta get to it. Yeah. Enough fucking around pontificating and preaching. So he goes to break, and then those alleged 400 radio stations, which is probably closer to 20. Right. End up coming in.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

And so he comes back from break, and here's where he's at.

[Alex Jones]

Trump has outperformed my wildest dreams. Elon Musk has surpassed my wildest desires. The execution, the energy, the fact that Trump and Elon and all of their team laugh in the face of the squeaking, squawking, pedophilic criminals. Every bit of the messaging and the truth and the informativeness and the competency is like being held underwater for four minutes by a savage 400 pound sumo wrestler. And finally getting them off of you and sticking your head back above the surface, getting that precious air. I am beyond euphoric. I. I am just so thankful to God and so thankful and humbled by all of you. Not just my fellow fabulous, amazing Americans, not just my compatriots here in this republic that all the red blooded humans that love liberty and freedom and whose North Star is the spirit of God shining through us, filling our sails with a crisp, clean wind of change.

[Dan Friesen]

So much for the not pontificating and preaching thing.

[Jordan Holmes]

I feel like this is very unfocused.

[Dan Friesen]

This is a laser beam.

[Jordan Holmes]

It's not very focused. I feel like we've gone all over the place very quickly in short order.

[Dan Friesen]

I think we're just rambling also. You would die if you were held underwater for four minutes, Alex. That's a long fucking time.

[Jordan Holmes]

It is a long time. Yeah, it is a long time.

[Dan Friesen]

But he brought up a sumo wrestler. And that leads me to my next question.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yes.

[Dan Friesen]

Which is. Are you caught up on the Amazing Race?

[Jordan Holmes]

I am caught up on the Amazing Race.

[Dan Friesen]

Some sumo wrestlers in there.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh my God, that. There were a couple of them that were so funny. Funny to see him just like gently walk back.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

They were pushing as hard as they can and that guy could have stood there for a million years and they never would have moved him an inch.

[Dan Friesen]

The fact that they had to push the sumo wrestler was a cute moment for the first people. And then diminishing returns got real sad. At some points, the first person had a thought of like, we might actually have to push this guy. As opposed to it just being a cute moment.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

I thought that that was an ins. Like when they got to that roadblock where you could choose to put on a sumo thing or make mochi.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

I thought, like immediately, this is a trick. The mochi one looks harder, but it's easier.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yes.

[Dan Friesen]

And everyone chose the putting on the sumo thing.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

Not to be hard.

[Jordan Holmes]

It's very hard. Anyway, I would even go so far, I'll say this. I think based upon what I know, that it is an incredibly insulting thing to describe a sumo as Savage as savage. One of the most important things about Sumo is the deference and respect shown at all times.

[Dan Friesen]

Sure.

[Jordan Holmes]

Savagery is simply not allowed.

[Dan Friesen]

No.

[Jordan Holmes]

So you could never. It's always. He's creating a fictional character. There's no such thing as a savage Sumo.

[Dan Friesen]

What about E. Honda from Street Fighter?

[Jordan Holmes]

Well, you know what? I've been. I stand corrected.

[Dan Friesen]

Right?

[Jordan Holmes]

Yep.

[Dan Friesen]

So Alex. Alex is just a little gloaty on this episode. A very laser focused gloating.

[Alex Jones]

Sure. We have the enemy's main attack plan to crash the economy. And even if they do that, the globalists are going to get the blame because we have information warfare superiority and the public's not asleep anymore. And so I would advise the globalists to stop, but it looks like they're not.

[Dan Friesen]

So this is a teachable moment because there's a reason that Alex goes into that sing song voice while talking about this subject. He's gloating like a schoolyard bully. And this is the tone that he's putting on in order to convey that vibe. What Alex is trying to get across is that no matter what happens, he and his side have a story that the media apparatus they've built up will push. They are going to push that story, and Trump is never going to get the blame for anything if Trump's economic moves end up creating huge problems for the US Consumer. It's already established that this was caused not by Trump's actions, but the evil globalists crashing the stock market because they're so mad that Trump is so good. Alex is doing this bully gloating because he's pretty comfortable with the toxic information space that he's helped usher in. And now Elon essentially presides over. The narrative is what's important, because the narrative is what ushers human attention. If you distract people well enough, you can legitimately override their understanding of cause and effect relationships. And you can just describe whatever cause you want to explain the effects that are happening in the real world. This is what Alex is gloating about, that he feels like his side has defeated rationality. He says that we have information war superiority. It just means we can say whatever the fuck we want to explain things.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And we've gotten to a point where we're pretty comfortable. We can just trick him.

[Alex Jones]

Bunch of people.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. I mean, I don't even know how you can say the words information war superiority and not recognize the disingenuousness that is required for that. You know, like, we lie best. Yeah. That's what you're saying.

[Dan Friesen]

We lie best and have created a world where there's no consequences for that.

[Jordan Holmes]

We're really good at lying is what you said. And that's strange thing to say.

[Dan Friesen]

In that tone, no less.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, yeah. That reminded me of home movies. That reminded me of bread. To be like, we want you to sing talk. You know, we want you to sing. Don't sing. Sing talk. Yeah, that's better.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. Grim. Yeah, gross. Anyway, he's lazar focused.

[Jordan Holmes]

Lazar focused.

[Dan Friesen]

And so this is. We're about half an hour into the show at this point, and we've gotten.

[Jordan Holmes]

To one story net, maybe zero stories.

[Dan Friesen]

I think we've gotten at least two movie references.

[Jordan Holmes]

Laser focus, add.

[Alex Jones]

I go back to that patent quote that I read on air yesterday that's hanging on the wall out there. In fact, I'm just gonna go back to that. It's too important. Then I'll get it on the dish. This is just too important, guys. I just want to have it on a hot key in there. It's hanging on the wall out there. Rob hung it up on the wall out there in the hallway out of the studio into the control room. There it is. Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest. However tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.

[Dan Friesen]

It's not how Patton said, it's example.

[Alex Jones]

Because my crew already is Dauntless and works really hard, but they've been trying to get me to work more.

[Dan Friesen]

It's the opposite of what you said yesterday.

[Alex Jones]

That's a first. Like in that line from Full Metal Jacket. That's so accurate. I talked to Marines.

[Jordan Holmes]

So accurate.

[Alex Jones]

Especially back then that went through boot camp. They say they have flashbacks because they dumped the script once. They were just going to use that real gunny sergeant as an advisor. And he said, this is all wrong. So basically rewrote the whole first half the movie. You know where they're at the Marine base before they go to Vietnam. And so he wrote it. I forget his name. He's super famous, probably knows who he is. And there's that line in there that the. The drill sergeants were getting really excited in the last few days of boot camp because the power of these young Marines was growing out of their control for the exact line. But that's what I like seeing because my mission has always been to become obsolete because everybody gets it completed. And then once everybody gets how tyranny operates now this current permutation and combo operates. It's so much fun to defeat tyranny. It's such a pleasure. An extreme pleasure. I mean, sometimes, you know, I'm going to meet my wife and eat dinner or something and everything's. I'll just say I'm sorry I have to stay at work, even though I want to go eat a nice dinner and be with my wife. You know, that's a lot of fun. It's like, I'm sorry, this drive state and I got a lot of drive state for eating food, you know what I mean? Is not anything compared to the drive state of crushing the enemy. What is best in life? To have a falcon on your wrist and to have the wind of the steps in your hair.

[Jordan Holmes]

Wrong.

[Alex Jones]

Conan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And the ladimentation of the women. Good. That's right.

[Jordan Holmes]

And linimentation of the women.

[Alex Jones]

But who are enemies? The worst scum the planet has ever seen.

[Dan Friesen]

So we're focused, very focused. Rambling about Full Metal Jacket, weaving that seamlessly into a scene from Conan.

[Jordan Holmes]

I have never imagined Patton starring Grindle before, but I think that would be great.

[Alex Jones]

Keep patching.

[Jordan Holmes]

Men were following Gollum into darkness.

[Dan Friesen]

Oh God, I feel like this is all over the place.

[Jordan Holmes]

Little bit.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Little bit.

[Dan Friesen]

There's not a whole lot of things to grab onto and be like, ah, here's what he's talking about. Yeah, I was just kind of screaming about the lamentations of the women of the globalists will be heard. And that's what's best in life is crushing your enemies before you.

[Jordan Holmes]

I question the wisdom of taking what Conan the Barbarian says about what is best is like in life and applying it to the present day.

[Dan Friesen]

Well, some. What is old is new again.

[Jordan Holmes]

I'm not disagreeing with you there.

[Dan Friesen]

Back to the future, as Alex said on our last episode, I think was an attempt at branding.

[Jordan Holmes]

You know what? Maybe let's just get rid of time and just say that maybe our circumstances are not quite the same as Conan the Barbarian.

[Dan Friesen]

Do you not think that Conan the Barbarian was a Renaissance thinker?

[Jordan Holmes]

I mean, it's not that. I'm just saying that swords are far less common as a day to day conflict solving device.

[Dan Friesen]

Not soon.

[Jordan Holmes]

Well, fair enough. I guess everything old is new again.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, pretty soon there'll be a lot more swords.

[Jordan Holmes]

I have been. You know what I've been thinking? I've been thinking that not enough swords have solved conflicts in my life. So apparently I have gotten my ironic consequence for this wish.

[Dan Friesen]

Yep.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yep.

[Dan Friesen]

So we had a lot of experience with Alex in his sandy hook Trial. I consulted with the Texas case. We were at the trial. We covered his depositions and covered the Connecticut case. And so it's particularly funny to hear him relay his own remembrance of how he behaved.

[Jordan Holmes]

Interesting.

[Alex Jones]

No, it's not sitting on your horse with the wind blowing in your hair, feeling vain like some Hollywood scumbag. It's crushing our enemies. It's seeing them driven before you and the limitation of the women.

[Jordan Holmes]

Lamentations. Lamentations. To hear the lamentations on the stand.

[Alex Jones]

In the rig trial, they go, is the most important thing in your life to be accurate. And I said, no, it's crushing the globalists like you.

[Jordan Holmes]

But truth.

[Alex Jones]

Is the weapon that crushes the enemy. So it's not two different things.

[Jordan Holmes]

Laser focus.

[Alex Jones]

Do you hear me?

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. So that's. Doesn't. That's not accurate. It's a fun way to sort of mythologize yourself. And I get why he does that, but that's absolutely inaccurate.

[Jordan Holmes]

Well, if I had behaved, I will say this in on his. On his behalf, if not in his defense, perhaps to damn him still greater. If I had performed the way that he did, I too, would be lying about it.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, yeah. You kind of have to.

[Jordan Holmes]

You gotta.

[Dan Friesen]

I don't know. I don't know how you can wake up in the morning and have God tell you what time it is. If you really deal with how you behave.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. To clear eyes, see the way that you did. That would require a lot of changing all across the board.

[Dan Friesen]

Probably.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So the globalists, they're in trouble.

[Jordan Holmes]

Sure.

[Dan Friesen]

Because Trump and Elon are there, unbeatable. Yep. And so Alex, now, this is one of the gifts that we have of this being a little bit in the past. Alex predicts that the globalists are going to be gone in 90 days, which is almost when we're recording.

[Jordan Holmes]

That is very soon.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, it's only a couple of days away.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, boy.

[Alex Jones]

At the current acceleration. At the current acceleration rate, the globalists are completely smashed within 90 days. Now, if Trump could have just stabilized in two years and removed 80% of them, I thought that would be a total win. I thought that was about the best we'd get. No, it's a totally different animal. And when Trump said, I have been reborn, I have learned a lot. And I mean, he has been. He has been planning and preparing. And again, even if they kill him, which they're going to try for sure, even though it won't work, but if they're totally off balance and a whole bunch of indictments which, you know, are incoming happened with the goods. They won't even be able to do that. And I, I, I'm just staggered by what's happening. But, you know, that's the thing about life. People think evil's invincible. They think it's all powerful. Like there'll be some, you know, you're in seventh grade and there's some kid that's, you know, flunked three grades and he's got a mustache and he weighs 220 pounds, and he's always beating people up and nobody will stand up to him. He beats you up a few times and you go, with black eyes. Your dad says, well, he's got to fight harder. What do I do, dad? He goes, well, he waits for you when you get off the bus and jumps on you and sits on you and spits on you and blacks your eyes. He goes, any rocks around? Anything going on? Next time? I have I just picked a piece of concrete, smashed across face, but basically put his eye out. But that's a good job. My dad's not a mean person. He's just like some son and people tried to sue us. My dad said, you, it's your son loosening my son's teeth, giving him black eyes. You're lucky I didn't come to your house, buddy. Who do you think you're with? People that take your, you want to fight? You got one. Excuse me. Let's go out with Conan, then we'll come back with all the big news.

[Jordan Holmes]

Let's go out with Conan.

[Alex Jones]

Here it is. Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So I think that that clip may include a bit of a Rosetta Stone for Alex's brain. On a very basic level, we've never heard him say that his dad suggested using weapons against a bully, which is a bit upsetting to hear. It's a movie kind of moment where a parent tells their child to fight back against bullies. But it's a different thing for a parent to say, well, son, have you considered murder? This indicates a complete disinterest on Alex's dad's part toward getting involved in his son's life. Alex is basically on his own, except he's not. His dad still exists as a figure that'll deal out punishments, but only when they involve his own life. Consider how Alex told the story of his dad threatening to kick him out of the house because he was getting all those abortions, which his dad said was killing my grandkids. It's not killing your kids. It's killing my grandkids. I'm Gonna get mad when these people try to sue us. I'm not gonna get involved otherwise. Yeah, I think the big tell moment here is him using his catchphrase against the globalists while he's in this reverie thinking about this bu from his childhood. You wanna fight?

[Alex Jones]

You got one.

[Dan Friesen]

It makes a bit too clear that his fight against the globalists and all this shit is just him replaying and trying to deal with the same feeling that he had when he was a kid being bullied. His dad refused to help him when he was growing up, so Alex tried to impress him by almost killing a supposed bully. And that didn't really work. So his life has been a larger scale attempt to impress his dad by killing the bigger supposed bullies. Alex would always overhear his dad complaining about with his John Birch Society friends. This is kind of why Alex's beliefs and everything he stood for has completely changed over the years. Because there really isn't any principle behind any of it. He's just fighting against ghosts in a doom mission to get his dad to care, and it's not gonna work.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, yeah, like you know how you shouldn't. Now, hey, I'm not a parent, but I would suggest not treating your children as extensions of your own self. They are, in fact, distinct from you. And I think, in my experience, most children who have been treated like that have later on grown up to be very resentful towards that. It has never occurred to me that people might be like, of course I'm an extension of my father. I am him and his father and his father before him, and then build.

[Dan Friesen]

Up like a whole mythology around it.

[Jordan Holmes]

To make that okay. Does require mythology, I guess.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. And look, I don't know what Alex's actual childhood was like. I don't know what his dad did or didn't do, but I know that these are things that he's expressing. And, like, he feels like his dad told him, get a rock. Smash this bully. I'm not gonna get involved in any way. I'm not gonna talk to the parents of this kid. I'm not gonna try and find some way to resolve this other than saying, hey, you wanna kill him?

[Jordan Holmes]

And let's not forget, this entire thing could also be his dad being like, you shouldn't be in a fist fight.

[Dan Friesen]

Mm.

[Jordan Holmes]

See what you did, what you should have said is, you shouldn't be in a fight, dad. What you told me was to get a rock and kill the guy.

[Dan Friesen]

What Alex heard is, any weapons around?

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dan Friesen]

How can you tilt the scales you.

[Jordan Holmes]

Cannot trust that he heard accurately what was being said.

[Dan Friesen]

No, but you can take away, at least in some ways, because Alex is communicating something.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And what he's communicating is a feeling that he had. And that feeling is essentially, you're on your own.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And that's dark.

[Jordan Holmes]

While at the same time, you are an extension of me. And everything you do only matters in the context that I deem important.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yep.

[Dan Friesen]

Your kids are my grandkids.

[Jordan Holmes]

You know, sometimes it is like there is a certain amount of like. Yeah. If you're RFK Jr. You should be fucked up. You're a whole fucking. If you were fine, that would throw into question all the rest of us surviving our childhood.

[Dan Friesen]

Sure.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

The only difference is that Alex isn't like, American royalty and come from, like, Camelot.

[Jordan Holmes]

No, no, no. But he's. Fuck. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Dan Friesen]

Big time.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So I was growing a little weary of this episode, not covering anything and making me think about Alex's dad.

[Jordan Holmes]

Are you saying that you weren't laser focused through the entire episode?

[Dan Friesen]

I was trying. He wasn't. That's for sure.

[Jordan Holmes]

No.

[Dan Friesen]

But he kind of gets to a story.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

And it's that someone tweeted something about aoc.

[Jordan Holmes]

Great.

[Dan Friesen]

So I guess that's as good as we're going to get.

[Jordan Holmes]

Great. Oh.

[Alex Jones]

The alarm bells and sirens are going off inside the globalist command bases everywhere. And in most cases, the Trump administration legally, lawfully, constitutionally has seized control and with total commitment to their promises, are flooding the zone with all the crimes and corruption and theft of our enemies that suddenly want a wave American flags.

[Dan Friesen]

Look at that huge pile over there.

[Alex Jones]

Just like enemy soldiers parachuting behind enemy lines, wearing the country they're invading's uniforms, camouflaging themselves as Americans when they are certified enemies of not just America, but of every human on the face of this planet.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

Their parasitic social Darwinian cult sure is the enemy of human life and progress. And I know that they have declared war on us in their covert operations for decades, and I accept the challenge.

[Jordan Holmes]

Do you have a pamphlet on this?

[Alex Jones]

You can feel it. Okay? You can see it. The spirit of humanity. You can feel it rising. Amazing. All right, let's get started with some fun. But it's also very illustrative of our enemies mindsets, which when you see their confidence and you see the corporate media's glitz and glamour and you believe that, well, maybe they're right. Maybe two men can have a baby. Maybe. Maybe fentanyl isn't a Problem. Maybe World War III is a good thing. Maybe, maybe drag queen story time isn't such a bad idea. Maybe, maybe they are going to give us a utopia. Maybe, maybe we should just do what they say. Maybe communism works. Maybe we should open our borders. Maybe white people are inherently evil and he'd be gotten rid of. Maybe eating bugs is a good idea. I mean, it's not just a reasonable, you know, thing to not go along with it. I mean, they're reasonable guys. Let's do it. And, and when you're under the spell that I've never been under, thank God, but some people, many people been under, and you come out of the spell, you come out of the trance, you come out of the mind control, you come out of the Stockholm syndrome, the learned helplessness. And you say, what the hell's going on here? And then you get our sweet little darling, the barista, the bartender. Nothing is bartenders. I mean, there's a lot of smart ones actually, but taken and put up by the establishment because she's such a mindless vessel that will execute things like a animatronic giggling robot. And she said a lot of hilarious stuff over the years. Remember every time I mentioned I want to find the video and play it again, she's like. And she puts on a fake, I guess, Hispanic accent. She's never talked that before. And she goes, we have these community gardens and there's too much cauliflower grown there that the white people eat. We need other things grown, not the white people food. And what the hell does cauliflower have to do with white people, by the way? Cauliflower is from Africa, but it's white.

[Dan Friesen]

Cauliflower was originally cultivated in the Mediterranean and AOC never said it was racist. This was a right wing media hysteria from 2019 about her posting a video about how the Green New Deal involved creating grow spaces where things that were relevant to local communities should be grown. Cauliflower was just an example that she used of a plant that wasn't used in much like Puerto Rican cooking. So for a Puerto Rican community, it wouldn't make sense to grow that, but Yucca would. And she pronounced Yucca, Yucca and then Puerto Rico. And that's the accent that Alex is saying that she put on.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's what he was trying to do.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, when she said, when she pronounced Yucca and Puerto Rico. He's just very triggered by that, apparently.

[Jordan Holmes]

I mean, sometimes, sometimes it's nice to know that I was, I was feeling like he was offending the wrong group of People I was assuming that he had there. I'm sure he is there. No, that there were tons of different possible groups of people who he's. Whose accent he could have been trying to be offensive towards.

[Dan Friesen]

That's true.

[Jordan Holmes]

I did not instinctively choose Puerto Rico.

[Dan Friesen]

So I. We're pretty far into this episode now. And I don't think that Alex has lived up to this focused and on the ball thing.

[Jordan Holmes]

Doesn't feel like it.

[Dan Friesen]

This is like that kind of the first news I put in quotes that he's getting to. And it involves making fun of AOC for something she didn't say. And I don't even know what the new thing is. Like, he's just talking about something from six years ago.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

That he and all of his buddies made a fake version of in the information war. And now he's laughing about now.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So do you. Do you know what AOC said?

[Jordan Holmes]

I don't. I don't. Do you know what? So when we were, you know, Chicago, I take the public transport often, which means that over the years I have occasionally walked in on multiple unhoused people.

[Dan Friesen]

Sure.

[Jordan Holmes]

Having a time with their own bodies.

[Dan Friesen]

Talking about a little.

[Jordan Holmes]

Not great. Not what you want to see. No, I felt like. Exactly. That went right before Alex goes. Okay, let's get started. Like that little bit was just for him and it did not make me feel comfortable.

[Dan Friesen]

Well, I think that that would be like walking in right after the person.

[Jordan Holmes]

Had finished with a self satisfied smile on their face. That's not what I wanted to see, sir.

[Alex Jones]

The.

[Dan Friesen]

Ooh, let's get down to business is more like the refractory. So you don't know what AOC said.

[Jordan Holmes]

What'd she say in 2019?

[Dan Friesen]

No, this is new.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, this is new.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

In 2019, she said that community gardens should cater to the local.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

But no, now she said, Elon Musk isn't smart.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, and then you get AOC in one of her latest or latest fabulous comedy saying, quote, elon Musk is one of the most unintelligent billionaires I've ever met or seen. And the poster said, who's gonna tell her? I said. In response to reposting it on AX at real Alex Jones, the globalist would hate it if you follow me and shared the videos and articles that might hurt the globalist a little more. Don't do that. Please don't. Elon Musk is the most intelligent person on the planet. When it comes to wide spectrum knowledge and force of will, AOC is one of the most un self aware people on Earth, but also one of the greatest unintentional comics in history.

[Dan Friesen]

So AOC put out a video where she said that Elon Musk wasn't very smart.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And so Alex has tweeted back about this and now he's covering how he tweeted back at AOC about how Elon is smart.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

This is shit.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. This is like when I walked into a train car and saw another unhoused guy helping out another friend.

[Dan Friesen]

Is this show just about Elon being smart now?

[Jordan Holmes]

I don't know why we're doing this.

[Dan Friesen]

I don't either.

[Jordan Holmes]

What is it about this man that people cannot cross the line of being like, oh, he's an idiot.

[Dan Friesen]

It's. I don't know. I don't know.

[Jordan Holmes]

I don't know.

[Dan Friesen]

I can't understand it because I've never got it. Like I've never. I've never really looked at him and thought like, ah, here is a great wise person. Even when he wasn't such a toxic fucking presence as he's become over the last few years.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

Even when he was just a really rich guy who was. I don't know. I want to dig holes under cities and play with flamethrowers.

[Jordan Holmes]

I remember that.

[Dan Friesen]

Even back then I didn't think that he was that great.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Dan Friesen]

So I don't see what the allure is that you can't shake off. But Alex is in deep. He's in it. This is bad.

[Jordan Holmes]

This is not good.

[Dan Friesen]

No. And it gets to a point where he's so offended that AOC would suggest that Musk isn't smart that he has to get into the complexities of intelligence. He has to start.

[Jordan Holmes]

Don't do that.

[Dan Friesen]

Oh no, this is a.

[Jordan Holmes]

No, don't do that.

[Dan Friesen]

This is very smart stuff.

[Jordan Holmes]

Strong recommendation against it.

[Alex Jones]

The average libtard is taught good start spectrum analysis. Not even third dimensional understanding or first level responses or issues. They're certainly not taught second level consequences or third level or fourth level or they tell you there's not even a third or fourth level. If they studied it because they're designed and brainwashed and put in a position of being automatomics or automatons, I'm sorry, Metropolis style biological androids, regurgitators, puppets that parrot what they're told. So they will say, oh, Jones is academic. He just said Elon is intelligent on the force of will scale. They don't even know that real intelligence is not quantified by a simple IQ test. That is Only one approximation. Do people not know this spectrum of the educational systems labels? But he does have a very high IQ on that scale or that gauge real intelligence is having a conscience, having innate programming God gave you to have a conscience. That is sounds true. One of the most important forms of intelligence. Then there's the intelligence to be able to appreciate beauty. Then there is musical intelligence intelligence.

[Jordan Holmes]

Wait, why is that?

[Alex Jones]

In their musical intelligence, physical intelligence, which a high capacity fast moving brain. It's physical, but it's also the body's physical intelligence. The cells, your immune systems, your great immune system. It has a high intelligence and high energy electrochemical operation. And so I've told you a thousand times, a thousand. The most powerful people have wide spectrum intelligence and then they apply it to real world events.

[Dan Friesen]

So Alex loves to go into these kinds of blowhard abstract ideas about how your immune system is a sign of intelligence when he needs to defend how smart some dipshit he likes is. But he's also the same person who supports the ideas of books like the Bell Curve. He believes that there's a meaningful connection between race and IQ and has used low IQ scores as a reason why some cultures are inferior to others. If you pay attention, it's really easy to see the trends and who gets to enjoy the benefits of having broad spectrum intelligence and who's judged by their imagined low iq. It's mostly if Alex thinks that you're white and if you support white supremacy, it helps.

[Jordan Holmes]

It helps to because you got to leg up because it was made for you. That also helps.

[Dan Friesen]

Well, like the people that Alex yells about, like these are low IQ populations and stuff. He doesn't give the benefit of like musical intelligence or their immune systems or whatever. This is bullshit blowhard nonsense that he's using just to be like Elon Musk is superior.

[Jordan Holmes]

What I like about IQ is that ironically it has been one of the easiest ways for me to sift out who I deem smart or not smart. How much you talk about it right before you talk about it. Nah, I know.

[Dan Friesen]

What context do you understand that measurement to be in? That's good.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, he's got a high iq. I do not care.

[Dan Friesen]

But I do think that there is something telling about this. The it's super complex and all of this shit when it needs to be and it is not. When he needs to malign and demonize other groups of people. Yeah, so cool. Enjoy that.

[Jordan Holmes]

It's always and it's an excuse for my guy who's. It is such cult leadership. It is such like, my God could beat up your God.

[Dan Friesen]

And I'm offended that Alexandria Ocasio or Cortez would dare.

[Jordan Holmes]

How dare you speak ill of Supreme Leader. Right.

[Dan Friesen]

She should just submit.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, boy.

[Alex Jones]

And then all. Oh, best selling electric cars, super innovation. Launch more satellites than everybody else in all of history combined in just a few years. And they work great. I got.

[Jordan Holmes]

Did he launch them?

[Alex Jones]

I think it better and better all the time. First put them in a few years ago. Worked okay out in the country. Got what I needed. Done about a year later. That's really fast now. Now it's like, God Almighty, this is badass. Game changer her. And it goes on and on and on. And we're supposed to recognize brilliance. We're supposed to get behind it when it's behind us. But no, no, no, she doesn't go, oh, maybe I should work for this team. She's so stupid. Because if she was smart and evil, she'd roll over. But no, because she's dumb. Dumber than a box of hammers. The only intelligence she has is a little bit of charisma. That's it.

[Jordan Holmes]

What?

[Alex Jones]

That's all. And not ugly. But she's so stupid. She's really ugly to me. I'm super gorgeous. Women.

[Jordan Holmes]

What the.

[Alex Jones]

And then I found.

[Jordan Holmes]

Do you need to do.

[Alex Jones]

It's. I mean, it's like, you are gross lady. You have a woman that's not classically physically attractive, but smart. I'm just like, wow, talk about sexy. That brain. All right, let's hear from this sad creature. Here it is.

[Jordan Holmes]

This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met or seen our witnessed. You know, you can probably even glean that from watching these people on tv.

[Dan Friesen]

So I would describe this as laser focused.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yep.

[Dan Friesen]

I don't know, man. I just. I think that the, like, the fucking Alex Jones, prison planet kind of guy, the guy who's like, standing up, telling truth to power, I really don't think that meshes well with the, hey, we're supposed to recognize geniuses and then submit to them. Do you understand that if you were.

[Jordan Holmes]

Smart and evil, you'd roll over, right?

[Dan Friesen]

I'm smart and good because I've rolled over.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

Huh.

[Jordan Holmes]

So wait, if you're smart and evil, you'd roll over? Does that.

[Dan Friesen]

Oh, I guess that does kind of imply that Alex could be smart and evil, but he could be smart and good too. But either way, the mark of smartness is submitting to Elon Musk.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, I'm a Big fan of requiring as many paragraphs as possible to say. She does make my dick tingle. But I still disagree with her politically.

[Dan Friesen]

Right.

[Jordan Holmes]

You know, like you can just say those two sentences. That's one sentence.

[Dan Friesen]

She looks good, but I don't like them ideas.

[Jordan Holmes]

I think she's hot. I don't think she's a qualified politician. Probably because of the first one. Very uncomplimed.

[Dan Friesen]

He does that thing where he's just tapping on the desk.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. Like in shame for him. But I don't think. I don't think she's actually attractive because thinking things makes her stupid.

[Dan Friesen]

Laser focus.

[Alex Jones]

Wow.

[Dan Friesen]

So at this point, Musk is primarily trying to target the usaid. USAID department. And so Alex talks about that and I'm like, meat. Here we go. All right, we'll get to some substance. Nope, we just get to a British voice.

[Jordan Holmes]

Great.

[Alex Jones]

When you see the desperate leftist surrounding. They're still there today. The recaptured federal agency usaid. They're scared. And not because totalitarianism is coming for them, but because their oppressive, tyrannical, hyper totalitarian boot is being removed millisecond by millisecond from our collective necks. And all the corporate media and all their dirty tricks and all their little cards up their filthy little sleeves aren't just having no effect. They are enraging and empowering with moral will those of us who have labored as winter soldiers and paid high prices in the trenches of the information war. We were becoming stronger under the pressure while they, decadently preening themselves on high, surveyed us as mere mortals to be poisoned, dumbed down, abused, robbed of the decidedly killed.

[Jordan Holmes]

Is that his Puerto Rican accent?

[Alex Jones]

And yes, they were successful in hurting and killing many people, but in the end it only accelerated their final fall and destruction. Do I sound more intellectual to the self appointed liberals now? Would you like me to affect elitism for you? Would you like.

[Dan Friesen]

Yikes. That was nothing.

[Jordan Holmes]

That was the opening scene to Patton.

[Dan Friesen]

That was nothing.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, that was a big empty waste.

[Dan Friesen]

Of everybody's life shit about what's happening with usaid.

[Jordan Holmes]

Nope.

[Dan Friesen]

There is nothing being communicated there. Except for Alex has a chip on his shoulder about people with British accents.

[Jordan Holmes]

I don't know what else to say other than yes, I've never heard anybody.

[Dan Friesen]

Who talks even close to that. And I don't have any relationship with giving more credibility to media because Sibin sounds sure. Anything.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

I don't know what this connects to other than Alex feeling like the way he talks was never respected. Like he would talk like a wild Texan or whatever. And that, like, he didn't get a shot at the table.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. I wonder if it's just some. Something that, like. Because there was that stretch. And I mean, it's still a trope now, but there was that stretch where every villain had to be an effete British guy.

[Dan Friesen]

Sure. You know, and I think that Alex probably came up in a period where that was probably more of a. I think.

[Jordan Holmes]

I think maybe he's just internalized that as being a thing that we all believe is that villains have a defeat British accent. Yeah. As opposed to. That was a trend for a while.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. Or that, like, you know, Klaus Schwab speaks with an accent.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And I think that Alex thinks that that gives him more credibility to people as opposed to. That's just how he speaks.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

You know, like, I think that.

[Jordan Holmes]

I mean.

[Dan Friesen]

And I think part of that is because Alex's voice is fake.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And I think that that. That is a piece of. This is a bit of performance.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. I think. I think there is a difference. And Alex doesn't understand it. There is a difference between having a British accent, because that's how you learned how to speak English, and having a different accent, because that's. English is your second language.

[Dan Friesen]

Mm.

[Jordan Holmes]

You know?

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. I don't think he understands that concept at all.

[Dan Friesen]

No, no. Why would he? It's an elitist concept to imagine you could speak two languages.

[Jordan Holmes]

I think that is kind of. Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

Bunch of bullshit.

[Alex Jones]

Anyway.

[Dan Friesen]

That was mostly noises.

[Jordan Holmes]

So in a way, he does speak two languages.

[Dan Friesen]

Grunting and grunting.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. That's the most. That's about right.

[Dan Friesen]

And words.

[Jordan Holmes]

And word.

[Dan Friesen]

An approximation of words.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So Bill Gates, he's back on. He's. He's. He's out of control.

[Jordan Holmes]

Back on his.

[Dan Friesen]

Totally.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, man.

[Alex Jones]

Bill Gates has reared his desperate, ugly head, always trying to act like he's nonpartisan, but behind the scenes, attacking any patriot. He's the field marshal of the death cults depopulation plan. And he has come out and attacked Mouse, calling him a criminal. He said, oh, and don't worry, a new pandemic will kill a bunch of you. Don't do what I say. So now he's like, I've got other bioweapons. I've got other bioweapons.

[Jordan Holmes]

Is that what he said?

[Alex Jones]

They're scared. And as Dr. David Martin said yesterday, they got 60 plus known bioweapons on the shelf. That Gates has gotten. Bill Gates is a clear and present danger to civilization and every life on the Face of this earth, including his own. Bill Gates worried about Trump must exposing US Aid waste of corruption, claims new pandemic will cause millions of deaths. What did Hotel say? Oh, we'll block Trump's agenda when a new pandemic comes crashing down on him. He started laughing. Will stop him. My boss, Bill Gates will. We've got something ready for you. Uh huh.

[Dan Friesen]

More. Just more great impression work. So Hotez didn't say that. And obviously Gates was commenting on how indiscriminate cuts to USAID grants and projects would make it more difficult to respond in the context of a future pandemic. But Alex doesn't deal in accuracy, so I don't really care to squabble about the details and the lies here. I just don't understand how Alex can't just get up and call for Bill Gates death.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan Friesen]

He's a danger to humanity and himself. He's planning a bioweapon release. If you believed any piece of this, you couldn't risk him living another day. It's not just that Bill Gates preferred policies won't lead to the kinds of outcomes that Alex wants and that people will be hurt in the process. It's that Gates has a supervillain plan to kill off most of the population. I'm just sick of these games. Alex is supposed to be fighting the devil and he's acting like a con man trying to protect his own ass. Like, just call for his blood or whatever, that's what you're supposed to be doing.

[Jordan Holmes]

I mean, regardless of whether or not you believe he's good or evil, he's a private entity, an individual with 60 known extinction event causers on his shelves.

[Dan Friesen]

If you believe any of this shit.

[Jordan Holmes]

It doesn't matter if he's going to use them or not. You cannot allow him to live. He's too dangerous simply by existing.

[Dan Friesen]

Mm.

[Jordan Holmes]

Now let me ask you a question. All right, so he's got 60 murder things on the shelf. What do you see? Do you think they're behind a bookshelf? Do you think he's got the spin around bookshelf? And then it's all white and there's like maybe some smoke, you know, some steam or something from it being kept cold. And then there are little beakers, sort of.

[Dan Friesen]

Okay, but actually my. I don't know all the right words.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay, okay.

[Dan Friesen]

But my mind went a little more mid century modern, okay. Maybe a little Jetson Z.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

Like you press a button and a bar comes out of the wall, right?

[Jordan Holmes]

I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.

[Dan Friesen]

And then there's. It's like a fake bar and instead of liquor, you have the.

[Jordan Holmes]

You've got all of them lined up.

[Dan Friesen]

That's kind of how I imagine.

[Jordan Holmes]

I like that. That's good.

[Dan Friesen]

Did you. You went to the bookshelf?

[Jordan Holmes]

I imagine I had. So you go with the bookshelf. It spins around. Right. And then I've. I've got little like fancy spinning beaker kind of designs for. You know, because if you're gonna have a world destroying virus, you put it in a nice little beaker.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. But it's got to be sealed.

[Jordan Holmes]

Sure, sure, it's sealed. But you know, there's a couple of little spirals in one of them.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. Swirly straw.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, a little swirly straw. Absolutely.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.

[Jordan Holmes]

I.

[Dan Friesen]

Whatever. However he maintains it, it. I just can't deal with Alex pretending to believe this shit and not be like, got to take him out.

[Jordan Holmes]

Insane.

[Dan Friesen]

It's.

[Jordan Holmes]

I don't. I also, I question. I question a man who doesn't stop at like maybe 10.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

You know, it's too many options for world destroying pandemics.

[Jordan Holmes]

One is too many to have because we'll all die.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Two.

[Jordan Holmes]

Crazy 10. Absurd 60. What? That's an addiction.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. These aren't Pokemon.

[Jordan Holmes]

No.

[Alex Jones]

What are.

[Dan Friesen]

You don't need to collect them all.

[Jordan Holmes]

Why are you making them and then putting them on your shelf? You got 10?

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Dan Friesen]

It's kind of like a villain in a movie.

[Jordan Holmes]

It's almost exactly like a villain in a movie. Like an over the top villain in a movie.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, it's strange.

[Jordan Holmes]

Like the Avengers.

[Dan Friesen]

So Alex quotes Shakespeare and then gets mad about imaginary people on Twitter. Getting mad about him quoting Shakespeare.

[Jordan Holmes]

That sounds right.

[Dan Friesen]

Because he's not.

[Jordan Holmes]

That'll happen.

[Alex Jones]

The whole world is a battlefield and each of us warriors upon it. That's an Alex Jones quote I quoted last week. My mother, when I was little, 5, 6, 7, would read to me to these big volumes where they are, to find those huge storage facilities full of books. They could never throw them away, but they just, you see them come and go. Big, huge thick sets of William Shakespeare plays. And she would just, at breakfast sometimes, hey, let's just read a few passages from this page.

[Jordan Holmes]

A White Man's Burden.

[Alex Jones]

One time over a few months, off and on, she read to me all of William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. And so there's a quote out of that which is based on history and, but. But somewhat fiction. But to someone Shakespeare Said, there is a tide in the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune. And I said, some people want money or power or whatever, but I said, my real fortune I want is freedom and competition and a vibrant new renaissance. And. And I went looked at the comments because I love comments, and I saw quite a few people saying, I thought you were a Christian. What does that mean? Being excited about human activity and innovation in the renaissance. That's. God gave us that. Or quoting William Shakespeare. But it's strange, too. Kind of. Kind of the old guard fake conservatives that sat here and hid in their churches while this evil went on. And then they just run around like Pharisees or Sadducees, you know, praying in public and telling you how holy they are. And then. And the strangest things go, grab that from X. Last week, I think it was Friday. I'm in my car, I'm in a red shirt, I'm driving. I just felt like saying it. There is a tide in the affairs of men when taking up the floodlights on the fortune. And just. It's weird psychology. Like, you thought I was a Christian. Well, not your type of Christian, I'll assure you. No, not the people that sit around and tell people about the speck in their eye when they got a beam in theirs. You just stay in there where you're at. We'll do the heavy lifting from here. I don't know why I'm bringing. That was just weird. Weird things that'll trigger the fake Christians.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, that is weird.

[Jordan Holmes]

That is weird.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Agreed.

[Dan Friesen]

This show is stupid.

[Jordan Holmes]

Very dumb.

[Dan Friesen]

Alex thinks of a quote that he's attributing to himself. That is a rip on a Shakespeare line. And he remembers his mom reading him Shakespeare when he was a kid. And he remembers that a couple days ago he tweeted something that was from Shakespeare.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

And then people said that he wasn't a Christian.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yep.

[Dan Friesen]

And he got into a Twitter fight with people about this and it's still bothering him.

[Alex Jones]

What?

[Dan Friesen]

Why? Who cares?

[Jordan Holmes]

I think we've all grown up wanting to live lives of consequence. And Alex, what can you say but that will change the world.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. You know this little Twitter back and forth that you had about whether or not it's Christian to quote Shakespeare.

[Jordan Holmes]

What are we doing? What are we doing?

[Dan Friesen]

I do think that there's some incredible truth to Alex's. You thought I'm a Christian, not like you.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yes, I agree.

[Dan Friesen]

I think that that is.

[Jordan Holmes]

Explore that.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Dig into that, Alex. Really get in there.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

I don't like the soft things about your Christianity.

[Jordan Holmes]

I don't like that whole Jesus figure y' all won't shut up about.

[Dan Friesen]

No, that guy is soy real piece of shit. Yeah. So Bill Gates was on the View, and that's really what started all this. He's on the.

[Jordan Holmes]

Bill Gates was on the View?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So AOC put out a video that said that Musk wasn't smart. And Bill Gates was on the View, and Alex had a Twitter interaction. Laser focus.

[Jordan Holmes]

Very important stuff.

[Dan Friesen]

So here's a little of Alex on that, okay?

[Alex Jones]

He thinks running to the View show that a bunch of women, they still have much of an honesty war, but they're still, you know, it's a pocket of them. So a few million women that watch.

[Jordan Holmes]

That'S a ton of people.

[Alex Jones]

Stockholm syndrome.

[Dan Friesen]

They're women, though, like Bill.

[Alex Jones]

What's that gonna do? Bill? It's all coming out. How you finance the bio attack, you murderer. Hell, we exposed it five years ago, but now it's everywhere. Oh, you thought you'd hit us with the attack and then you'd get away with it. You thought, okay, well, they'll. They'll forget about it. No, we're not forgetting, son. I got family members that were super smart. Smartest people I ever knew, who aren't smart anymore and who are real sick that you almost killed. And you killed some of my friends. So I'm not ever gonna forget about.

[Jordan Holmes]

It.

[Alex Jones]

Because I get to see the wreckage of what you did every day. Not just to me, but everybody else. And all the kids dying with damn heart attacks, it's all admitted because of you. You just murder us at will. You can't just murder us at will. And I think you know where this is going. I'll get to him in a minute. Here's Senator Kennedy to my. To my friends who are upset. I would say with respect, you know, call somebody who cares. They better get used to this. It's USAID today. It's going to be Department of Education tomorrow, and it is. They've announced today, new executive order incoming. Oh, while you're worried about your USAID little, little money laundering operation, we're about to take down the big one. And then while you're busy fighting that, we'll hit 10 more. And then 10 more. And then the prosecutions. It's what a route looks like. It's what's being vanquished looks like. You can smell it. All those cowards burning up metaphysically right now.

[Dan Friesen]

Alex is a coward on a level that you can't really put into words, just put a bounty on Gates's head already. Well, like what? What are you doing tiptoeing around this? What Alex is saying about how Trump's administration is dealing with governing is right on, though. The only way they'll ever be able to get anything done is by causing gigantic messes that need to be dealt with in the courts. While the courts hear these cases, they move on to causing another giant mess that will need to be dealt with in the courts later. As the process goes along, they cause unfixable damage and force out tons of workers who would be needed to keep the government processes functioning as normal. Inevitably, this will cause severe problems which will then be blamed on some vague, deep state actors. For a perfect example, the cuts in public health funding will result in greater infectious disease exposure and probably a lot more death from preventable conditions, maybe even another serious pandemic. Instead of accepting that this is partially due to the attack on public health funding, it'll be contextualized as a bioweapon attack by someone like Bill Gates who was mad because they cut the public health funding and he lost all his money. They cause the damage and then use storytelling to shift the responsibility for the consequences of their actions. This is a functional model. Now, right wing media saturation is to a point where Tucker Carlson can pretend he was attacked by a demon in the middle of the night and he still has a career. These figures can shift blame and control the narrative for a significant amount of the population. But in order for this to work, the people in power have to keep causing that damage in the first place. I suspect that Alex understands this, that his side would never be able to calmly convince any group of rational people to go along with their plans. The only way he'd ever be able to see the world that he wants come into being is by brute force and pressing the attack while the other side struggles to keep up the infrastructure of democracy. It's so much easier to just wrecking ball destroy shit than it is to fix or build. And Alex knows that. And that's what he's cheering on. He's cheering on just wholesale demolition.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yep.

[Dan Friesen]

Because I think he knows he's not going to be hurt.

[Jordan Holmes]

No. I don't know why he's not even. Why, like why, why hold back Right.

[Dan Friesen]

At this point.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

The entire power structure is going to defend you.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. Can you even imagine somebody being. Yeah. Nobody's even gonna be mad.

[Dan Friesen]

No. Like if he literally called for the day death of Bill Gates put money on his head, he'd be pardoned.

[Jordan Holmes]

I mean. Right. And not just that, but, like, in the world we're living in, like, people are still making, like, go, Luigi memes all over the place. So, like, I think you're fine.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Go whole hog.

[Dan Friesen]

It seems.

[Jordan Holmes]

Smoke him if you got him, buddy.

[Dan Friesen]

It seems. It seems like that may be the case.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And I just, I don't. I think Alex is just used to the game that he plays.

[Jordan Holmes]

It is. He's not for this time.

[Dan Friesen]

No, no, no.

[Jordan Holmes]

He's. I mean, it's, it is ironic. He's. He's said often. Again, we're talking to the gin wishes. I, I wish to be made obsolete. Well, not right now.

[Alex Jones]

Right. Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

I, I, I need a few more bars of gold.

[Jordan Holmes]

I wanted to be obsolete when I was dead.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So Alex screams a little bit about Bill Gates because he was on the View. Who would go on the View?

[Jordan Holmes]

Who would go on the.

[Dan Friesen]

Well, Alex did. When Charlie Sheen had a meltdown and they invited him.

[Jordan Holmes]

Who wouldn't go on the View.

[Dan Friesen]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

Fair enough. Now, let's talk about one of our main enemies, Bill Gates. Articles up on infowars.com I suggest you share it. He makes a threat. Oh, new virus. If you don't do what I say, it'll be his fault. We already told him. Goes. I'm in charge. Since FY's so unpopular. Even the new said he's the new Fauci F is my mentor for 40 years. He tells me what to do. Hotel said. And there'll be a new viruses that crash in and stop Trump. It's like, literally, it looks like Renfield in the Dracula movie.

[Jordan Holmes]

Is that his Puerto Rican accent?

[Alex Jones]

And here's Bill Gates and Borla and Tedros. The union. Oh, the new pandemic will stop Trump. Okay, well, we all know you're gonna do it. I mean, you think you got in trouble last time. Don't do it, Gates. Don't do it. Stop it. Stop it. I don't think he will stop, though. See, some of them aren't gonna give up. And that's okay, is he? I don't know how good Bill Gates is gonna be doing soon. I just have a. I just have a thought that Bill Gates is probably under a lot of surveillance right now, and somebody like him. Yeah, I don't think he'll be. I don't think he's gonna be much more of a problem very soon.

[Dan Friesen]

Seems like if Gates is under surveillance by the government, then it'd be pretty hard for him to Launch another pandemic. So I guess if I'm supposed to believe anything Alex says is real, then that threat is neutralized. There's no reason to believe that Bill Gates is even capable of doing anything if he's completely under surveillance and Trump is gonna get him. So that's the thing, right? He's a threat or he's not, and Alex seems to want both. If he's under Super Trump surveillance, then there's nothing to worry about, which satisfies what the audience wants to think about Trump. But it also leaves them with nothing to be scared about. If Trump truly has this under surveillance, then you can't really use Gates as a scapegoat for the next possible health crisis without saying that Trump knowingly allowed it to happen. I guess that's not probably that big of a problem, though. Since Trump did Operation Warp Speed and was president during most of the pandemic lockdowns, his fans have been able to rationalize that pretty well. So I don't think it's a problem. But you see these internal inconsistencies, and that's what happens when Alex just kind of flies by the seat of his pants.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. Yeah. It does feel like at a certain point, he. We reached a level where he could just be like, you'll get over it. You know, like, that doesn't make sense. Yeah, but you'll get over it. And then we just move on. And everybody's like, I guess I will get over it.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah. Hey, you guys struggling with that Ebola in Denver still?

[Jordan Holmes]

You'll get over it.

[Dan Friesen]

You'll get over it.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay. I guess we will.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

So why. Why spend all this time struggling? Let's just get over it.

[Dan Friesen]

Damn.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, it's great.

[Dan Friesen]

So Alex had. He said that there was going to be an AI expert who's going to help break down all this government fraud. Right.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, is this our health ranger?

[Dan Friesen]

No.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, we've got a different AI expert who's not an expert in AI.

[Dan Friesen]

This actually kind of is a great, classic type of infowars guest, which is someone you've never heard of with a shady past.

[Alex Jones]

So I'm going to try to give him the floor here. But his work on election fraud has been very instrumental, but in stopping a lot of it and mitigating it and creating a blueprint for Trump's investigators to go in and block a lot of it. But that now is being eclipsed by his work on the fraud in the NGOs and up the chain to the State Department. The rest of it so, Peter Bernager, thank you so much for coming on with us today. This is a complex but critical issue central to retaking our republic. How. How should we start with the audience who is smart? But still, this gets into rocket science level stuff. How do you quantify what's going on and then start drilling into it?

[Jordan Holmes]

Well, first, thank you, Alex, for having me on. And it's not just me. There's a team of us across the United States that have been volunteering our time.

[Dan Friesen]

And so Peter Berniger is not a AI expert who tracked down election fraud and now is uncovering the truth about government waste.

[Jordan Holmes]

Really surprised by that.

[Dan Friesen]

He's a dipshit conspiracy theorist who's wasted countless hours of people's lives with harassment about the 2020 election to the point where he's been warned by the Wiscon police that his actions could be seen as stalking. And he was charged with a felony for illegally modifying a subpoena. Sure, that's a case of him committing fraud in order to make it easier for him to achieve his goals. In this case, making a big show out of fake election theft information. Probably. Unsurprisingly, Peter was convicted for felony mail and bank fraud charges in 2009 in Mississippi. He and his associate, they'd started a company called We Gel that claimed that they could make gelatin out of catfish waste product. But he was full of shit about being able to do that. Yeah, that sounds all a lie.

[Jordan Holmes]

That sounds like a huge lie. I like that lie. But, yeah, that's a bad one.

[Dan Friesen]

Despite his inability to do the thing he claimed he could, Peter defrauded investors out of millions of dollars.

[Jordan Holmes]

How?

[Dan Friesen]

One of my favorite things about this case, I read the court filing of the appeal. He appealed his. His conviction, and part of it was affirmed. But the only thing that was really affirmed was, like, I shouldn't have to pay back that much. And they were like, yeah, some of this maybe isn't illegal. So he, instead of having to pay like a little north of 2 million back, he had to pay like 1.4 or something like that.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's a good. That's a 25% reduction. That's good negotiating. It's not bad.

[Dan Friesen]

It's not bad.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's not bad.

[Dan Friesen]

But if you read the court filing, this is really funny.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay?

[Dan Friesen]

Quote, David Cooper, an investor who also worked as a chemist for Finch and Berniger, testified that he asked Berniger why he did not tell the investors the truth in these letters, to which Berniger replied, quote, quote, they can't handle the Truth.

[Jordan Holmes]

That. I mean, I think that is. I think that's probably accurate. I bet they could. I bet they couldn't have handled the truth.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, because it's a scam.

[Jordan Holmes]

Because you're different. I'm scamming you. Is not a truth most people like. Like to handle.

[Alex Jones]

No, no.

[Jordan Holmes]

In a sense, they can't handle it.

[Dan Friesen]

They can handle it, but they can't. They won't respond the way you need them to handle.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Dan Friesen]

So he was sentenced to having to pay back a large amount of money and 70 months in jail. Anyway, Burdager is the grandchild of the founders of Hillshire Farms, so he can probably afford to do this kind of dumb bullshit.

[Jordan Holmes]

Why not? Why not? That's all I have to say about that. Why wouldn't it be the grandson of.

[Dan Friesen]

Those people, the Hillshire Farms people.

[Jordan Holmes]

Jesus Christ.

[Dan Friesen]

Deli meats.

[Jordan Holmes]

What are we doing?

[Dan Friesen]

So he's a career scammer who's found the perfect community to insulate himself into where he'll be treated like a hero and an expert. So good for him.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

Con men.

[Jordan Holmes]

He found his people.

[Dan Friesen]

Yes.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

Yes, for sure there is. And being presented this way on Alex's show is like, this is where it all runs downstream.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

It all.

[Dan Friesen]

You can. You can get a revamp image if you want to try.

[Jordan Holmes]

Totally.

[Dan Friesen]

Social media and Infowars will help you.

[Jordan Holmes]

No, I was just thinking it's so it's fun that you stream, because I was just thinking, like, this is. Occasionally we will turn this show into a documentary. Life wildlife documentary. And it's like, oh, this is how the con men swim upstream to get to their breeding grounds. Of course, they make this journey to Infowars in order to lay the fucking eggs necessary to move on for the next fucking. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Dan Friesen]

Well, it's. It's almost. It's more like parasitism. Parasitism.

[Jordan Holmes]

Well, there's definitely that.

[Dan Friesen]

Well, because, like, Alex will unquestioningly give you a place where you can prey on the audience that he has.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And that's. That's very useful for people like this.

[Jordan Holmes]

There's a species of wasp now that opens out its victims and lets other wasps in, like, for a price. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You give me a little extra caterpillar every now and again, you can sleep in this guy. Yeah, great.

[Dan Friesen]

So anyway, I feel like this guy's a piece of shit.

[Jordan Holmes]

Sure.

[Dan Friesen]

But I also was like, I don't.

[Alex Jones]

Want to shoot the messenger, you know.

[Dan Friesen]

Let'S see what he's saying the message. Well, yeah, let's get a little sampling of the information that he's bringing. Bringing.

[Jordan Holmes]

USAID is funding the BBC. It came out this morning. They are funding the piggy bank. They're larger than the CIA by a.

[Alex Jones]

Multiple, by the way. Stop the presses. We're having ten hours. Soon we'll do a two hour commercial free. I didn't even know that yet. But that goes to figure. The government funded. They have to pay a license to have a TV in the uk. Almost no one watches it. It's literally run by pedophiles that's come out and they are getting taxpayer money for the American people. Wow. So Americans are paying a BBC tax as well. Holy Toledo.

[Jordan Holmes]

And they're paying in the USAID and through NGOs is paying Reuters, Reuters to London to do hit pieces on conservatives across the United States.

[Alex Jones]

300 million to target Musk, which again, that's really MI6.

[Jordan Holmes]

Incredible, incredible, incredible.

[Dan Friesen]

So we've seen so much of Alex just like pointing at the big pile, you know. And so here we have some specifics with his fraud guest guy. And this is the kind of level you would expect from a fraud guy.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So USAID wasn't funding the BBC. They were contributing to a charity, BBC Media Action, which is an international development organization aimed at sponsoring independent media in other countries. The BBC itself, like the news entity, is entirely separate from the Media Action charity. This is a very important distinction that just doesn't matter to these folks because they're not making a sincere argument. The USAID funding that they're discussing, like all the stuff that Musk is posting on Twitter, all this stuff, it's a fishing expedition where they're just going to go and pick and choose things that seem to work for their arguments, which is what you see here. As For Reuters, the DoD had a contract with them for approximately $9 million that was meant to help create defense in the realm of cybersecurity. The contract was started in 2018 when Trump was president and ended in 2022 when Biden was president and now Trump is back in office and he was posting on social media about how Reuters should pay the money back.

[Jordan Holmes]

There you go.

[Alex Jones]

Go.

[Dan Friesen]

This is stupid shit. But it's also an issue where this contract was with Thomas and Reuters Special Services, which is a separate branch of the parent company from the news entity. They're different things. Also, this is the thing that was through the DoD and USAID is an independent agency but exists around the State Department. This is just grasping at straws.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

This is what happens when you take a closer look at the big pile that Alex will just gesture at because he wants you to see a pile of not anything that's in the pile because it's all shit.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's ridiculous.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

I bet he didn't think that altering a subpoena was a crime.

[Dan Friesen]

Probably not.

[Jordan Holmes]

I bet he was. I bet he's got a fucking Photoshop thing.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

Or he did a cut and paste thing. I bet $1 million he's like, wait, that's a crime?

[Dan Friesen]

No, I think what happened, if I understand correctly, was that he had a subpoena that he appropriately got through a judge and then he added stuff to it after the judge had signed off on it.

[Jordan Holmes]

Amazing, right? Amazing.

[Dan Friesen]

Which is like, oh, I probably couldn't get the subpoena if I had all this stuff written on it.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's how it works.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan Holmes]

That's why we have the whole process.

[Dan Friesen]

Exactly.

[Jordan Holmes]

If you could do that, then you could have just written it down by yourself.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

You didn't need a judge.

[Dan Friesen]

I love this kind of fraud because it's exactly the same behavior as the catfish based. I couldn't get this investment if I told them I didn't know how to do the thing that I'm doing.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

I have to lie in order to get the investment.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. What don't you understand about the lie?

[Dan Friesen]

Can't handle the truth.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. Yeah, I do.

[Dan Friesen]

The judge couldn't handle the truth.

[Jordan Holmes]

Like, but, you know, there's. There's so much of just, like, I didn't get into fraud because I wanted to work hard, you know? Like, I could have worked hard at anything. Yeah. I got into fraud because it's easy, man.

[Dan Friesen]

No, and I get it, and I. And I tip my hat.

[Jordan Holmes]

Of course.

[Dan Friesen]

You know, that's why I say, like, he's found his people and, like, this is where you belong on. Good for you.

[Jordan Holmes]

Absolutely.

[Dan Friesen]

But, like, I. The thing that I resent is, like, acting like you're not a fraud person.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

Trying to pretend like this is just straight up good shit. That's. That's where it's like, yeah, I'm not gonna play. I'm not playing.

[Jordan Holmes]

Playing. This is America. We kind of incomprehensibly like our con men for some reason.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

We're just America. Just give us a little twinkle in the eye and we'll all move on.

[Dan Friesen]

It's a national failing that we have. But I also. I think that my. What I'm trying to put my finger on is I Obviously don't think that you should be able to run scams like this.

[Jordan Holmes]

Obviously. It's not complicated.

[Dan Friesen]

But I'm also not like. Like I can't stop. Bullshit. Sure. You know, like it's just not going to happen.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

But I'm also not going to be cowed into a world where I respect.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

And that's. That's the line.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right.

[Dan Friesen]

I will laugh about his catfish waste.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right, right, right.

[Dan Friesen]

But I will not call him a businessman.

[Jordan Holmes]

Right, right. Pacino and De Niro and Heat. You guys are sitting across the table from each other. I'm not going to respect you, but I know that you're a criminal.

[Dan Friesen]

You know those. The first time that they were ever in a movie together.

[Jordan Holmes]

Is that true?

[Dan Friesen]

I think. I don't know. I remember that from an ad.

[Jordan Holmes]

Nice.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

When he came out for another movie.

[Dan Friesen]

No, when he came out.

[Jordan Holmes]

Oh, okay.

[Dan Friesen]

Made a big deal out of Pacino and De Niro. First time on screen together.

[Jordan Holmes]

I guess that's. I guess that's cool. Is that cool?

[Dan Friesen]

I don't know.

[Jordan Holmes]

Okay.

[Dan Friesen]

Yeah, sure. I mean, they're big.

[Jordan Holmes]

No, I mean I get that. But you know, it feels. It feels weird to be like, oh, I get to see those two guys pretend at each other. It's very strange. We're a weird people.

[Dan Friesen]

It sure is.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Dan Friesen]

So anyway, that's about all I got.

[Jordan Holmes]

He seems like a great guy.

[Dan Friesen]

Berniger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jordan Holmes]

I mean, you can trust his family.

[Dan Friesen]

Mm. Hills.

[Jordan Holmes]

They have the meats too.

[Dan Friesen]

No, is that.

[Jordan Holmes]

They know they have. We also have the meats.

[Dan Friesen]

At a time, they had some of the meats. Now Arby's has taken all of the meats.

[Jordan Holmes]

There was a hostile conquest. Arby's took all of the meats.

[Dan Friesen]

Yep.

[Jordan Holmes]

What a headline that would be.

[Dan Friesen]

So we'll see if that's something that's covered on the next episode. But this was not laser focused.

[Jordan Holmes]

Was that what it was trying to be?

[Dan Friesen]

We did say Lazarfo.

[Jordan Holmes]

We did say Lazarfo. It's a very different laser.

[Dan Friesen]

Anyway, Alex sucks. This is trash. So we'll see if it gets better. But until we are back, we have a website.

[Jordan Holmes]

Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.

[Dan Friesen]

Yep, we're back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. Woo.

[Jordan Holmes]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Woo.

[Jordan Holmes]

And now here comes the sex robots.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Jordan Holmes]

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'M a huge fan. I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.