#1084: October 9, 2025

Summary

Knowledge Fight Podcast

Episode #1084: October 9, 2025 (Recorded Oct 13, 2025)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jordan return to their usual dissection of The Alex Jones Show, focusing on the post-Trump press conference broadcast from October 9, 2025. With Trump having just held a controversial event where he called for flag-burning to be criminalized and expanded his authoritarian rhetoric, the hosts anticipate a rare moment where Alex Jones might be forced to confront the contradictions in his own supposed principles—namely, free speech. Instead, they find Jones increasingly checked-out, grasping for relevance, recycling old conspiracies, and desperately killing air time with childish antics (literally throwing hats), all while avoiding the real story: his hero's full embrace of open tyranny.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

Bright Spots and Opening Banter (01:10–07:51)

• Neo recounts an ill-fated experiment combining Cocoa Pebbles and Fruity Pebbles cereal: “Turns out the reason they don’t do it is because it’s bad. They don’t work together well…” (01:19)
• Jordan shares a touching daily ritual with his dog, Sunny (“medicated shampooin’ your do”; 07:46).
• The show’s lighthearted start underscores the “little moments” that bring joy, with the hosts' living-room warmth setting the episode’s accessible tone.

Episode's Political Context: Trump’s Press Conference & Free Speech (07:57–19:02)

• Trump’s press conference is recapped, notably his call to criminalize flag-burning despite clear judicial precedent: “The President was saying…the courts recognize flag burning as protected free speech, but that he disagrees. So he's gonna put people in jail for it. This is tyrant shit.” - Neo (11:48)
• The hosts set up the expectation that, by Alex’s prior statements, he should be appalled by this move—citing years of Jones defending even distasteful uses of the First Amendment.

Alex Jones’s Historical Position on Flag Burning (12:33–18:14)

Key Clips, Attributions, and Analysis:

• 2003: “I will defend the right to burn it because it's the First Amendment. The soul of what the flag is... The First Amendment says I can burn that flag.” – Alex Jones (12:33)
• 2005: “When you arrest somebody for burning that flag...what you are, in a sense, doing is burning the First Amendment. You're actually burning the soul of that flag.” – Alex Jones (13:27)
• 2016: In conversation with Jesse Ventura, Jones reaffirms that Trump is wrong on flag-burning arrests and "if you do that, you can ban all the free speech." (15:24)
• 2019: “You have a right to burn the American flag...we shouldn't be incited to attack them when they do it. It's what they want.” (16:20)
• Neo and Jordan highlight that while Jones is disgusted by flag burning, he’s always unequivocal: the freedom is essential, and restricting it is a slippery slope.

Alex’s Response to Trump’s Authoritarian Turn (19:02–21:21)

• Instead of panic or principled objection, Jones ignores the free speech violation entirely, embracing Trump’s escalation against “antifa” and prepping for “Insurrection Act” talk.
• Neo: “Alex is very invested in Trump’s power grab, and he sees Trump dictatorship as preferable to a liberal democracy...He has retired [from being an interesting media figure].”
• The hosts analyze Jones’s loss of any pretense of principle, focusing only on preserving his own sense of relevance.

Morning Zoo Energy: Antics, Hat Throwing & Owen Schroyer Longing (87:58–98:47)

• Jones fills time by repeatedly throwing a sombrero at staff members—reminiscing about a time he managed to land a hat on ex-cohost Owen Schroyer’s head (“It's magic. He threw a hat and it landed on Owen's head.” - Neo, 90:38).
• This goes on for an uncomfortable length—demonstrating Jones’s checked-out state and “vacation day before bankruptcy” attitude.
• Discussion about the childish improvisation and sadness underlying Jones’s attempt to recreate “lightning in a bottle,” now absent his sidekick and in the face of looming legal defeat.
• Memorable meta-reflection: “This is like…when the teacher would just have reached the maximum amount of everything and be like, guess what? We’re playing Heads Up Seven Up now.” – Jordan (97:19)

Avoiding Reality — Jones’s Embrace of Fringe & Racist Content

• Paranoid Segments: A firefighter, Jesse Beltran, claims to scan guests for “nanotech microchips” in a segment so silly even Jones tries to insist it “isn’t kook stuff” (36:25). The hosts note how this “Nano Sapiens” promo is pure grift, not content.
• Antifa as International Terrorists: Jones continues pushing a long-debunked conspiracy that “Alexander Soros” funds antifa via “smoking gun documents” first found on 4chan (42:23, 47:22). The hosts walk through why these contracts are comically fake, their details internally inconsistent, and Jones’s memory of their origin ever-changing.
• Racist Fearmongering/Bigotry: Jones and Senator Tommy Tuberville rant about Muslims, “sharia law,” and Dearborn, MI, using decades-old discriminatory tropes (63:16–66:54). Jordan: “In reality, I don’t care what any other…municipal problems are that are not my municipal problems…just a regular ‘let’s go to city hall’ issue…”
• Propaganda and Deepfakes: Jones promotes racist “sombrero” memes—riffing off a Trump deepfake video—and mocks Hakeem Jeffries (83:36). “The president posted a deep fake video is really something I never could’ve seen coming.” – Jordan (85:11)

Media Literacy and Alex’s Diminished Role (55:48–56:48; 101:14–102:01)

• Neo and Jordan decry the collapse of critical media literacy, noting Jones and his ilk’s ability to make viewers “not even realize what they’re seeing.” Neo: “There is so little literacy about what the thing you’re seeing is saying…”
• “Whatever this is, is probably about what [Jones] can do. And that’s not good.” – Jordan (101:23)

Existential & Melancholy Tone—Knowledge Fight’s Thematic Close (104:01–End)

• The hosts reflect on Jones’s decline, both as media figure and as a person: “We're watching a guy bleeding…he should be put out of his own misery…not to say anyone should hurt him…but Infowars has to end. He's dragging this around with him. He even wants it to resolve.”
• Neo and Jordan note the cruel irony that Alex’s rise and Trump’s victory led to consequences that have destroyed both men’s sense of power.
• “Everything Alex has to offer exists without Alex and is better without Alex.” – Jordan (101:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Flag Burning and Free Speech:

  • “The First Amendment says I can burn that flag.” — Alex Jones, 2003 (12:33)
  • “When you arrest somebody for burning that flag…what you are…doing is burning the First Amendment.” — Alex Jones, 2005 (13:27)
  • “If you do that [ban flag-burning], you can ban all free speech.” — Alex Jones, 2016 (15:51)
  • “He’s always been unequivocal…restricting it is a slippery slope.” — Neo’s analysis (16:20)

• On Jones’s Disintegration:

  • “Alex is just trying to hold on … and it’s holding on to the wrong thing.” — Neo (21:06)
  • “This is like a catchphrase comic. Like, this is ‘get her done’…” — Neo mocking Jones’s soundbites (24:27)
  • “Your Chicago Bulls starting lineup!” — Jordan, comparing Jones’s delivery to an NBA announcer (24:59)

• On the “Hat” Antics:

  • “The sad thing is, no one can throw a hat like [Jones] can onto Owen’s head, but he just comes off like a prop comic...” — Neo (98:47)
  • “A love letter to Owen. A ‘I need someone to take this away from me’…” — Jordan (97:50)

• On the Nature of Modern Conpsiracies:

  • “Alex has forgotten more fake things than you’ll ever learn.” — Neo (42:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening banter / Bright Spots: 01:10–07:51
• Trump’s press event debate/Free speech setup: 07:57–19:02
• Historic Alex on flag burning (clips): 12:33–18:14
• Jones’s current indifference to Trump’s tyranny: 19:02ff
• Day-killing “hat throwing game”: 87:58–98:47
• Debunking fake “Antifa-Soros riot contracts”: 42:23 (revisited 47:22)
• Alex’s rambling monologues/Microscan guest: 36:00
• Sen. Tuberville interview, anti-Muslim rant: 61:10–68:47
• On fake news, deepfakes, racist meme promo code: 83:36
• Closing reflection on Jones and Infowars: 104:01–End

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Tone & Language

Jordan and Neo maintain their hallmark sardonic wit, warmth, and scholarly irreverence. They openly mock Alex’s authoritativeness, expose the holes in his stories, and—when the sadness of the spectacle supersedes the humor—brood with real empathy about the tragic ending awaiting both Jones and the larger paranoid movement he enabled.

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Final Thoughts

For those who want to understand the right-wing conspiracist universe as it enters its exhausted and self-destructive phase, this episode is both hilarious and chilling. With the collapse of any pretense to principle or seriousness, Alex Jones becomes a cautionary tale—a man who, faced with the monster he helped create, can do nothing but throw hats and hope for applause.

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Listen at: knowledgefight.com
Hosts: Dan & Jordan
Memorable quote:
“You’ve abandoned and given up on whatever it was that you were building, the pretense of your brand. The people who are worse than you don’t want you.… So you’ve got nothing. Except for this.” — Neo (23:10)

Transcript

[Neo]

Red alert.

[Andy]

Red alert.

[Neo]

Red alert.

[Andy]

Red alert.

[Neo]

Red alert.

[Andy]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Andy]

Not Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray.

[DZX Clark]

I have great respect for Knowledge fight.

[Andy]

Knowledge flight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge.

[Jordan]

Dan and George.

[DZX Clark]

Knowledge fight.

[Andy]

Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Andy. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge fight.

[Andy]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Neo]

Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge fight.

[Jordan]

I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.

[Neo]

Where a couple dudes like to sit worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Neo]

Dan, Jordan.

[Jordan]

Dan, Jordan, quick question for you.

[Neo]

Sup?

[Jordan]

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

[Neo]

My bright spot today, Jordan, is actually a dark spot.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Neo]

I'm pointing at you.

[Jordan]

Yes, I see this.

[Neo]

It's a dark spot and it's me.

[Jordan]

All right?

[Neo]

Remember that?

[Jordan]

It's a bit.

[Neo]

I did something that I thought was gonna be revolutionary this week, okay. I've put the cereal industry on notice, okay. I've told them that they're out of line with all this crazy cereals that they're making. Like the Fruit Loops with marshmallows. They're combining things that don't need to be combined.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Neo]

I was at the store and I saw Cocoa Pebbles right next to Fruity Pebbles.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Neo]

And I realized they haven't mixed those yet.

[Andy]

But I could.

[Neo]

I was going to strike first. They have never sold a combined cocoa and Fruity Pebbles and it's just begging to be combined. So I did it. And it's bad.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's not good.

[Neo]

No.

[Jordan]

Oh, oh, baby.

[Neo]

You feel so good when the idea hits you and you're like, I'm going to change the game.

[Jordan]

I'm telling you, I'm going to be.

[Neo]

The one who does it. They said you can't. Y I'll do it. Y and it turns out the reason they don't do it is because it's bad. It does. They don't work together well. They have conflicting flavors. They do different things to the milk. It's just bad.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

I feel ashamed.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I hate to say it, but I think you've had an experience that a lot of people have had ever since the Pebbles first came out. The though like, no one will ever See this frontier? If I don't cross it first. And sometimes you shouldn't cross the frontier.

[Neo]

Yeah, but now we're living in a world where these barriers are being broken down day by day.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Fruit Loops with marshmallows in them.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Come on.

[Jordan]

I know. I get you. I get you. But sometimes you push into space, and sometimes you reach the event horizon of a black hole. You're not coming out, man. But you can go so many different places in space, but not out of a black hole. Now, staying in there.

[Neo]

I also watched episode four of MacGyver, and how's he doing? Two kisses.

[Jordan]

Two kisses.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Neo]

Same. Same person, but that still counts for two. So we're up to six. He had to get a photojournalist out of a Central American country that I think was Guatemala. They did not specify.

[Jordan]

Okay, that's smart.

[Neo]

And there's a sort of a dictatory kind of guy who's working with an arms dealer who has a past with MacGyver. And so she has uncovered proof that these two are working together. And MacGyver's got to get her out of the country. And she is like, no, I got to get pictures of them doing an arms deal.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Neo]

And so he goes along for the ride.

[Jordan]

Why not?

[Neo]

And then tries to get her out of the country.

[Jordan]

Gotcha.

[Neo]

It's fun.

[Jordan]

They kiss and then they get.

[Neo]

I think it's implied. They might have fucked, too. Sure. So that's the first. I mean, that first fuck implication.

[Jordan]

That's a pretty exciting situation. I don't think anybody could blame them for being like, we got out of unnamed Central American country, escaping an arms dealer and a dictator.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Oh, no.

[Jordan]

Fuck it out.

[Neo]

Oh, no, no.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

They fuck before they get out.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Wow.

[Jordan]

Maybe that. What if. Do we know their marital status? I mean, assume. Assumably, MacGyver is single.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

He lives in a planetarium? I think so.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

He's single.

[The Mysterious Professor]

He.

[Jordan]

Does he live in a planetarium?

[Neo]

I think so. I'm not sure. In the first episode, he was showing, like, his little brother from the Little Brother Big Brother program.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Neo]

Not his actual little brother.

[Jordan]

No, no, I understand. I understand.

[Neo]

He's showing him around his place and there's, like, a telescope, but it. It's like.

[Andy]

I don't.

[Neo]

I don't know. They haven't really established his living situation fully yet.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

But he's single. He's got to be single.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

She was single.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I think.

[Neo]

Well, they had escaped from the militia, the Guatemalan militia, by stealing a School bus.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Neo]

And then had driven it accidentally into a river and had escaped on foot and had set a little fire for the night.

[Jordan]

I mean, that seemed. That appears sexy storytelling wise. But I bet that they smelled so bad.

[Neo]

Yeah, probably. But then MacGyver catches a lizard for them to have for dinner.

[Jordan]

Wow.

[Neo]

And she's like, I'm not eating lizard. And then she loves it, of course. And she's like, you want to lay down?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Well, I mean, hey, the people are still chasing them. There is. There's no. There's no safety.

[Jordan]

That is like, that is what I think somebody who had studied sociological evolution, we were like, that's probably what it was like at the beginning. You know, everybody's like, I don't like you. Then you make them a lizard, then you fuck, and then you have a kid. And then society happens. That's basically how it goes.

[Andy]

Right?

[Neo]

This is the archetypal story of MacGyver.

[Jordan]

MacGyver is. Is the sex at dawn of our time.

[Neo]

Yeah. So I'm still enjoying this. I can't. I can't get enough.

[Jordan]

Keep going.

[Neo]

Great.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So what about you? What's your bright spot?

[Jordan]

My bright spot is my dog, Sunny, My beautiful little angel of a pup.

[Neo]

Wonderful.

[Jordan]

She's been having some skin problems.

[Neo]

A little itchy.

[Jordan]

Been. Been a real struggle to handle her skin issues. Been a real struggle to handle her. Her attitude issues. But those are completely separate.

[Neo]

You don't think the itching is contributing to the tune?

[Jordan]

In fact, since we've got the itching under control, the tude has gotten far worse. It's almost as if she was distracted from being an asshole by how much itching she was doing. So. Yeah. But today, as I was sitting in the shower, I was giving her a little bath with her medicated shampoo. And we have to. You have to have the shampoo on there for like 10 minutes. Can't, can't. Can't be nine minutes, 30. It's got to be 10 minutes at least.

[Neo]

Science.

[Jordan]

Right. And so we're sitting in the shower. I've got the shower off and I'm in the shower with her sitting next to her. She's covered in her soap, and we're just watching a little show for about 10 minutes. And I mean, it seems silly, it seems stupid, but I'm sitting in there with my shampoo covered dog and I'm just thinking, this is great. This is good life. This is good. I just loved it.

[Neo]

That's the definition of those little moments.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

You know, it was awesome. And it's so fun that you can sort of pretend that the dog cares about the show.

[Jordan]

You know, I'm just. I mean, we're. I'm sitting there because I. Here's. The schedule is I take my shower and then I just go grab her and bring her into the shower with me. So we're. So I'm just sitting here on this little edge naked next to my. She's. We're both soap covered, watching a little thing, just my arm around her, having a great time.

[Neo]

Well, that's sweet.

[Jordan]

It's beautiful.

[Neo]

Now that's man at his primal.

[Jordan]

That is primal caveman stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Neo]

Hanging out naked with your dog.

[Jordan]

Medicated shampooing your. Your do.

[Neo]

Sure.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. All right? We're gonna be talking about October 9, 2025.

[Jordan]

2025.

[Neo]

Talking about Alex's next day after Trump's bullshit press conference.

[Jordan]

I bet he did great.

[Neo]

Oh, so good.

[Jordan]

I bet he was great.

[Neo]

So good. So we're gonna talk about that and how terrible it is and how he should be ashamed. But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wongs.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's a great idea.

[Neo]

So first, Stabo and the Ouija would be. Lots of love from RWRAA down under. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Andy]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Neo]

Thank you. Next. Attention, people. Burned by 40k. There's a new grim dark war game in town called Trench Crusade and all the rules are free online. All hail to the Iron Sultanate. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Andy]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Neo]

Thank you. And shout out to the recent new daddy. Willie G. Sully is gonna have the best father ever. At least you beat Silksong and return to par. Or at least after you beat Silksong and return to parental duties. Thanks for being a great friend and turning me onto the show. Thank you so much. You're now Paul Zwong.

[Andy]

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.

[Neo]

I said you beat Silksong. And then I had to double back because I feel like nobody's beat Silksong. Not anybody who has any other responsibilities. I hear that game is hard as shit.

[Jordan]

That is what I have heard.

[Neo]

Yeah, we got technocratic mix, Jordan. So thank you so much. To honestly. Please just use the name Owen Schroyer. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

[Andy]

I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone. Someone. Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Neo]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Neo]

So we're gonna go over this episode, but I have an out of context drop for you today. All right.

[Andy]

I mean, you're so screwed. New World order. I got the Mexican food restaurant giving me free bowls of soup. You're screwed.

[Neo]

You're fucked. I got soup.

[Jordan]

I have never heard better evidence for anything ever.

[Neo]

Yeah, David Rockefeller is in his grave trembling. I mean, because Alex is getting soup.

[Jordan]

I would accept that as an explanation for the reason anyone should be scared about anything. Oh, man, the brewers are probably struggling. They're not going to win against the Dodgers. I'm getting free soup.

[Neo]

Yeah, it's all over.

[Jordan]

Works for me.

[Neo]

So in our last episode, we experienced the Trump administration doing a propaganda event about antifa and witnessed Tucker Carlson clumsily pretend to have just discovered that he feels scared of immigrants. It was a colossal shit show. And the messaging around it was very clear. The goal was to present people in cities like Chicago and Portland as being so far past the point of saving that the only option left is for the federal government to occupy them and take over their law enforcement. Along with that, we heard Trump say something that should immediately disqualify him from holding the office that he's in. To refresh everyone, here is a comment that he made about flag burning and his position on that being free speech.

[DZX Clark]

Only days ago, Nick Sauter was assaulted in Portland by a flag burning mob. And we've made it one year penalty for inciting riots. We took the freedom of speech away because that's been through the courts. And the court said you have freedom of speech, but what has happened is when they burn a flag, it agitates and irritates crowds. They've never seen anything like it on both sides, and you end up with riots. So we're going on that basis. We're looking at it from. Not from the freedom of speech, which I always felt strongly about but never passed the courts. This is what they do is they incite. When you burn an American flag, you incite tremendous violence. We have many examples of it.

[Neo]

The President was saying that the courts recognize and have upheld flag burning as a protected form of free speech, but that he disagrees. So he's gonna put people in jail for it. This is tyrant shit. This is the very behavior Alex has pretended folks like Obama and Bush were engaging in. So it feels like he should be very worried about the safety of the Bill of Rights. It's important when discussing something like this to be clear about people's positions. If Trump was saying that flag burning isn't free speech and Alex agreed with that position, then it would be silly for me to expect Alex to see this as a major violation of the Constitution. So in order to make sure that we establish what Alex Jones believes about this issue, let's hear him discuss this from over the years. Let's start in 2003.

[Andy]

I don't like burning the flag. I hate those that burn it because they hate America, because they're burning it for wrong reasons. But I will defend the right to burn it because it's the First Amendment. The soul of what that flag is what it represents. The First Amendment says I can burn that flag.

[Neo]

So Alex understands that not being allowed to burn the flag is a transgression of what the freedom the flag symbolizes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

He understands this paradox.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I would not. You know, the more I think about it, the more I think if I'm gonna change my position on something 20 years later, embarrassingly, don't use the word soul. That one is real damning. And in retrospect, when you say the soul of the thing.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You're really gonna struggle later on whenever you piss in it.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Neo]

But maybe, you know, you know, it just. That was what he thought in 2003.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

But here's 2005. Okay.

[Andy]

House okay's ban on flag burning, though. The flag symbolizes the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, America, the veterans that have fought and died for this country. The flag itself is not those rights. And I do not like people that burn the American flag. Most of them are misguided idiots. I do not appreciate. But I'm not an emotional idiot. And I will fight for their right to burn that flag. I will fight for their right to do it because it's under the First Amendment. And when you arrest somebody for burning that flag, ladies and gentlemen, what you are, in a sense, doing is burning the First Amendment. You're actually burning the soul of that flag.

[Neo]

Oh, the soul is here again.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Oh, man.

[Jordan]

You gotta. Years later, you gotta not use the word. Yeah, you gotta not use the word.

[Neo]

He seems pretty consistent on this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And, you know, obviously, it's like, I don't like these people, but fuck you. I'M gonna defend to the death your right to say these things. I don't like.

[Jordan]

I mean, it's one of the classic American things to say whenever you're not telling the truth is to be like, I disagree with you, but I would defend your right to disagree with me for my life.

[Neo]

I'm quote Voltaire at you.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

So here's Alex in 2010 going even further, defending people's right to not only burn the flag, but holy texts.

[Andy]

Okay, listen, I don't like burning the Bible or Korean anything else. It's disrespectful, but it's the right of free people to do it. I don't like burning the American flag, but I've got to defend people's right to do it. Because if you take their right, well, then this radio show doesn't have a First Amendment right, does it?

[Neo]

No, that's.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Neo]

It doesn't.

[Andy]

Nope, you're right. Yep.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's how rights work.

[Neo]

But all of this, these. These clips that I've played so far, this is all pre Trump. However, in 2016, Alex was still unchanged on this issue.

[Andy]

I had Jesse Ventura calling me this morning out of the time to call him back, going, oh, there's your hero, Trump, Alex. Calling for arrested people to burn the American flag. And I was just thinking, you're supporting. I don't want to get in a fight with Ventura, but give me a break, man. You're supporting Ventura that killed hundreds of thousands. I mean, you're supporting Fidel Castro Ventura. You're saying he's a great guy. I don't support arresting people. The flag burn because it's their First Amendment. Okay. And once you do that, you can ban all the free speech.

[Neo]

So in 2016, Alex was hearing pushback from people like Jesse Ventura that Trump wanted to arrest people who burned the flag. And he's in denial about that being something that Trump wants. And he's clear that if you do that, then all free speech is up for grabs.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And so that is after he has fully adopted Trump as his leader.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

So here's him in 2019.

[Andy]

And I want to be clear. You have a right to burn the American flag. People fought and died for the rights that flag symbolizes. I don't like it. It disgust me. But we shouldn't be incited to attack them when they do it. It's what they want.

[Neo]

He was uniformly disgusted by people burning the flag, and he didn't like them, but he recognized that it was their right to do it and encroaching on that right threatened all of the other aspects of free speech. Through the ups and downs of his stupid career, Alex has understood that flag burning is the paradox that represents the test of freedom. And it's to his credit that he didn't just take the easy conservative patriot position. He could have easily been the guy who was like, no, I don't believe that it's free speech. The courts have ruled that it is. Sure. But I would like to advocate that we change that.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Neo]

Because you can change the First Amendment.

[Jordan]

That's how laws work.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Neo]

But the Supreme Court decides these things, and then that's our definition.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

In that last clip from 2019, Alex even rebuts Trump's supposed reason for arresting people who burn flags, which is that it incites people. Alex understands and dismisses this as a justification for banning protected speech, which is the correct take to have.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Don't. Oh, the problem is that you're getting incited by this. Not that this is inciting.

[Jordan]

No, it's. Yeah.

[Neo]

Your response is the problem. If you're going to go punch someone who's burning a flag, People need to.

[Jordan]

Be protected from themselves.

[Neo]

By the standards of Alex's political positions, as documented by his career, at least over the past 22 years, you have to believe that he thinks an attempt to ban flag burning is an attack on free speech. He thinks that about a bill that would ban flag burning. So you can only imagine how much more tyrannical he would think. A president just decreeing that it was now illegal while admitting that the courts wouldn't let him do it because of free speech, so he just ignored them would be. That's so much worse than someone putting a bill through Congress.

[Jordan]

It would be hard to have an argument in a courtroom. And for them to play that where you go, I know what they'd say if I said, I'm banning your free speech. So I won't say that we took it away. I'm doing something else. And take away your free speech. That would be very difficult to come back from.

[Neo]

We ignored the free speech angle of this free speech issue because the free speech of it would get in the way of me doing what I want to do.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Neo]

Huh.

[Jordan]

Feigning ignorance is probably not going to work after you just say, I want to take away free speech.

[Neo]

Yeah. Feigning ignorance after you confess is impossible.

[Jordan]

It is very difficult. Yeah.

[Neo]

So Trump's press conference was on the 8th. So today we're going to look at Alex's show from the 9th where one should expect him to be sounding the loudest alarms about how Trump has overturned the Constitution and all patriots who have sworn an oath to uphold it must act.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what his tone is like.

[Jordan]

I'm. I'm excited to see the patriots overthrow the Capitol. That'll be interesting.

[Neo]

Here's where we start.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Andy]

It's Thursday, October 9, 2025. Trump has declared antifa, international terror organization.

[Jordan]

There it is.

[Andy]

Preparing the Insurrection Act. You want to go to war with the deep state?

[Jordan]

It's happening now.

[Andy]

Infowars, Tomorrow's news today.

[Neo]

So I guess Alex doesn't care too much about that free speech thing. I get that Alex is very invested in Trump's power grab, and he sees Trump dictatorship as preferable to a liberal democracy, but this is a complete abandonment of him, even trying to keep up appearances. This is a guy who is legit, living like there's no tomorrow. On the surface, this behavior looks like full commitment, but what it really is is a guy who's given up. He used to pretend to operate from principles, and now he's just a state propagandist. So long as the state is Trump. As far as being an interesting media figure, he has retired. Like, this is a person who does not give a shit about, like, what these positions mean for the future, what they mean for the past.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It is all in service of defending and accruing the power that he feels associated with.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I think it's more. It's interesting to see somebody on the way up who is hiding these true positions because at the very least, they're engaging with a, I don't know, a need to obtain something, you know, so the subterfuge has its own purpose.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It is somebody who is doing something to obtain something for whatever reason that they have right now. All of this stuff is a waste. There's just no, okay, fine, you're. You're doing this, but it's not even achieving the goal of being a state propagandist. Nobody's even, like, coming to your side or even believing things differently. They're just going, look at this guy.

[Neo]

Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Alex is just trying to hold on kind of, and it's holding on to the wrong thing. Yeah, I think. But I feel like it is an indication of him just not caring. Like, I think he recognizes that he's sunk his own ship. Yeah, he's. Whatever. The state courts and all that shit, however that ends up playing out is not going to go in his favor. Yeah, there's going to be an ability to hold on to something and run some level of supplement company by screaming about dumb shit.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

But, like, it doesn't. It doesn't matter.

[Jordan]

And he's probably finally starting to feel the loss of Owen Schreyer. Yeah, he's probably. It's probably breaking his heart.

[Neo]

Later he talks about Owen, and I didn't. I didn't include this clip because I just thought it was kind of dumb. Yeah, he's like, talking about how, like, he. He's pulling for him and he's like, what? Yeah, he makes some dishy aside about like, I can't get his microphones to work, but I hope he does good. And that's like, okay, you're watching his show. You know, he has, like, tech problems.

[Jordan]

You.

[Neo]

It just indicated a level of madness that he shouldn't give, he shouldn't show.

[Jordan]

This is a great. It's great to watch people unravel. Yeah, I suppose so.

[Neo]

I think that Alex, when I say he's retired and basically just coasting at this point, it's because he's being thrown the softest of softballs imaginable for a guy who's suspicious about the federal government and cares about the Bill of Rights. The whole Epstein thing was a good off ramp for most conspiracy theorists if they wanted to maintain a little dignity. But I would consider this to be the last exit on the highway. If you're not off by now, you're done. There's nothing left for you but this path. This is the path that you're on, and you can't get off. You will never get off.

[Jordan]

I mean, I don't. I don't see any way that you could even attend to any of your previous bullshit about tyrants and blood on the tree. Yeah, you know, like, give up. You love that shit. Blood on the tree isn't going to happen. You're having a grand time. Fuck off.

[Neo]

You've abandoned and given up on whatever it was that you were building, the pretense of your brand. And the people who are worse than you don't want you because they already think that you're, you know, working for Israel or some shit. So, like, you've got nothing.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Neo]

Except for this. Just stay on whatever this path is. Gross. And I think that when you're in this kind of position, maybe you just kind of go through the motions.

[Andy]

We are entering the 262nd day of the Return of America and the West. Remember, this is a participation sport. The battle for the future of humanity. So whether you're listening on AM FM stations, uhf, vhf, TV cable, whether you are watching us on the mighty X at Real Alex Jones or the backup channel at AJN Live, or on the amazing rumble with the Alex Jones Network, share those live feeds, share those articles, share those videos. Because there's a war on for your mind. And the answer to 1984 is 1776. And as I've told the Globalist for at least 20 years, I don't know how all this is gonna end. But if you want to fight, you better believe you got one.

[Neo]

It's like a catchphrase comic. Like, this is get her done. Yeah, that's three catchphrases in a row.

[Jordan]

And it does. It feels. He feels very. Announcer. You know, you could. You could push a little bit of real into your voice, you know, instead of being like. And next, coming up to the floor on the Price is Right.

[Neo]

But it's hard to deliver those catchphrases in any. With any kind of sincerity. Yeah, you kind of have to do that.

[Jordan]

That's fair.

[Neo]

Your Chicago Bulls starting lineup.

[Jordan]

You might be a patriot if.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So Trump declared Antifa an international terrorist group which may or may not be official.

[Jordan]

Which nations?

[Neo]

All of them. All of them. Yeah.

[Jordan]

I was. I was actually very interested. So they're an international terrorist organization where. What's their base of operations out of anywhere.

[Neo]

You know how like he is shooting these boats out of the water because they're quote, unquote, allegedly cartel boats.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure.

[Neo]

Same thing.

[Jordan]

Anybody? Yeah, could be any. Could be anybody, really. Could be almost like just a pretense to then choose whoever you want to hurt.

[Neo]

Yeah, But Alex is into it. And at the meeting where they were discussing this in Trump's press conference, his ex employee, Savannah Hernandez was there.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Neo]

And Alex discusses how she probably would still be working for Infowars if he wasn't a flagrant sexist.

[Andy]

Well, Trump two weeks ago declared Antifa a domestic terror organization, which they are by the very definition. And today they declared it to the State Department an international transnational terror organization. And that's got the real teeth in it. And of course, we know exactly who's been funding it the whole time. We know who created is a communist network that goes back actually to the 20s in Germany. And it is funded by Soros, the CIA, USAID billionaires in Europe. And now we have the Justice Department giving briefings in a long conference yesterday at the White House with our own former reporter Savannah Hernandez and others victims of physical attacks. You know, Savannah quit on friendly terms. What was it, four years ago? Because we had her security. We got six people, and they would still beat her and punch her in the face and pull her hair and throw bottles at her. We said, savannah, I said, savannah, I cannot send you into the middle of Antifa. I said, I go into their groups in an armored vehicle and they jump up on it with hammers and attack it. And we have footage of that. She said, well, I quit. And, you know, look, she's got courage. I love her to death.

[Neo]

Apparently not. I can't let you do this because you're a little lady.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, it's hard to view that is being said in any other way. I mean, he could have ended it with Sweetheart. That would have been nice.

[Neo]

Yeah. She quit because you are a sexist asshole who doesn't believe that women could do the same things as men.

[Jordan]

You need to stay inside and boy, things need to be cleaned.

[Neo]

Yeah. They couldn't. I think that what he's expressing is that, like, Savannah was pretty successful and she's been more successful since leaving Infowars. And she probably could have stayed if.

[Jordan]

She'D given her the wings.

[Neo]

Yeah. Or I could have like clipped them.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Neo]

She never would have flown.

[Jordan]

I could have really made this hard.

[Neo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

God, what an asshole.

[Jordan]

He's a piece of shit.

[Neo]

So Antifa is obviously an international terrorist group.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

And one of the ways we can tell this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Is that people who are fuh. In other countries. Sure. Are being killed.

[Andy]

And when they call you a Nazi, well, then they dehumanize you. Oh. You know, it's okay to punch a Nazi and that's why they do that. And now it's upwards of 20 AfD politicians that were winning in state elections. It was just six or seven a few weeks ago. In the last few months, 20 of them. Sure. It's more. Haven't looked in a week. Magically die in Germany.

[Neo]

So Alex is making this news up and the magical word there is a little bit. I mean, some people are just old.

[Jordan]

They do magically die, though, because they are non existent.

[Neo]

So this story hasn't changed from the last time he's reported on seven deaths of AfD candidates. But some time has passed, so he decided that he needs to bump the number up to keep the story interesting.

[Jordan]

Yeah. More people have obviously had to be dying.

[Neo]

Yeah. So there was a headline that he's probably basing this off of though, which was news about Iris Salzer or Stalzer who's the newly elected mayor of her dyke, who was stabbed in her own home but survived. This could be another case of some shadowy conspiracy against AfD politicians. But like I said, she survived. So she was able to tell police what happened? Yeah, she was stabbed by her 17 year old daughter. From the information that's been reported so far, it appears that there was some kind of a family fight that got out of hand. And it's possible that the daughter won't even face serious charges. She called for an ambulance after doing the stabbing, so the authorities don't seem to think that she was looking to kill. And there might not even be like, obviously there's not gonna be. I don't even think there's gonna be an attempted murder kind of prosecution.

[Jordan]

However people need to deal with inter family stabbings is up to them. I have. It's not my choice. Yep.

[Neo]

This is not some kind of targeted political attack against the German far right. This is a domestic situation that's being exploited by people like Alex to create the appearance that people with his politics are under attack, which is justification for the horrible things that they plan to do to the rest of us. And it's. That's. That's all this is.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

And you know, it's unfortunate that this, you know, woman had this domestic situation.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

In Germany, but it wouldn't be relevant at all if people like Alex weren't trying to build a case. Yeah.

[Jordan]

I think it's. I think it's interesting though, the way that they do that is the like, oh, when they call you a Nazi, they do it to dehumanize you in a. In a kind of mirror image of the way that they dehumanize everybody who's not white. Right. But in reality, the reason why it's okay to punch a Nazi is because they have been humanized. This is a person who has made a choice to do a thing. Now there are consequences for that thing. This is not dehumanizing somebody by calling them a cockroach. An animal that has no choice but is just. It just is or is not. There's nothing you can do about their behaviors.

[Neo]

Yeah. Being a Nazi is not an inalienable trait.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. You can change your fucking mind.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

You're wrong.

[Jordan]

Yep. That's how it works.

[Neo]

Yeah. And pretending that you deserve any say.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Is allowing for violence to be carried out on other people.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. No. We. We are now no longer buddies. That's why you can say whatever the fuck you want and I'm still going to punch you.

[Neo]

It could happen. So Alex talks a little bit about black shirts and brown shirts.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Neo]

During the lead up to World War II.

[Jordan]

That's gonna help.

[Neo]

Yeah, I think he's a little muddy. I don't know what's going on here.

[Andy]

And I remember going to protest 29, 28 years ago when I was just talking about Antifa with Steve Mason, local talk show host. Explained it to me because he'd been brought up at Quaker and a communist, so he knew all about it. He even stole around. That guy's amazing. Explained to me all about Antifa then. And they would come over to me just because I was having a pro private property demonstration or pro gunmetrician. They'd say, you know, when we take over, we're going to kill you.

[Jordan]

Weird way to start.

[Andy]

And their leadership of professors and NGOs. But down below it, they hire all these thugs and people. And it is the equivalent of Hitler's Brown Shirts. Well, in Germany, he was fighting the communist that had their black shirts and that was Antifa. So it's not that Hitler's brown shirts are good, it's that both were bad. Both different flavors of totalitarianism. But look up the history of Antifa. That's where it comes from, is out of Germany, even pre Hitler. And it was them running around with their reign of terror that actually got the Germans behind Hitler and the Brown Shirts to fight them off. That's why the left treated Proud Boys like Nazis, because they saw them as historically a right wing resistance. To them, though, the Proud Boys were not like Hitler, they were a unifier. But that's why they got called a domestic terror group but never actually officially made one.

[Neo]

So I think that Alex is a little. A little bit convoluted and maybe into the Nazi side of things.

[Jordan]

Seems like it's.

[Neo]

But also I think at the end there he kind of makes a point that he should think about, which is the evil Obama Biden regime didn't make the Proud Boys an international terrorist group.

[Jordan]

That is a good point.

[Neo]

Why wouldn't they have if they were all the things that Alex believes them to be? They're working for the devil. Mm. You know what? The devil's known for restraint.

[Jordan]

I. I mean, listen, there are unwritten.

[Neo]

Rules, cosmic law, there's intergalactic space.

[Jordan]

You have to. Sure, you have to put it in a movie first and then it. But that they didn't do that.

[Neo]

Oh, Alex is going to talk about a movie in a little bit.

[Jordan]

Oh God.

[Neo]

Not great.

[Jordan]

I knew it.

[Neo]

But it's notable here that Alex seems to be on the same page with people like Jack Posobic and Tucker with the messaging about how Hitler's rise to power was an understandable response to the decadence and communism in Germany. There is an angle. Alex is not pushing it as hard as someone like Jack Posobic was, but they. There is a message. Unity.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

I'm not saying that they're all collaborating or anything like that, but there is something scary about this being a common thought they have.

[Jordan]

I find it interesting. These people cannot understand, like, they can't understand the concept of antifa being just a generalized anti fascism. We are against fashion. And it didn't. It didn't start in Germany. It started a thousand years ago whenever somebody was like, hey, no more kings telling me what to. Why would I listen to a fucking king? Like, it just goes. It's the same thing. This asshole up there with a shit ton of money is telling me what to do and I don't want him. Like, that's it.

[Neo]

Yeah. So Alex is, you know, clearly putting himself as some kind of a heroic figure in this street fight that's gonna happen between various colored shirts, them and imaginary people. And so, like, it excited me that he teased what's coming up later in the show.

[Andy]

I have a former firefighter who I've known about for a long time who then discovered that people are being implanted covertly with microchips.

[Jordan]

Hell yeah.

[Andy]

And now you see it coming out. And now they have the nanotech and the Pfizer shots and the rest of it, the self amplifying, the self replicating. And he's going around with major institutions around the world, including even with the Parliament of the EU and scanning people that have been vaccinated versus this. And it's. It's incredible. And he can tell you these expensive handheld ones are like 20 grand. He's got like $100,000 devices.

[Jordan]

Does he have they left glasses tell.

[Andy]

What'S going on and explaining, folks. You think of a parasite as a worm in your belly and that could be that type you think of a microchip is, you know, something the size of rice. No, no, this is nanotech that's both biological self replicating and silicon self replicating. And this is a major transhumanist rollout. And he's got the documents and he scared my buddy Shaun Johnson on his podcast and found specifically where there are these silicon clusters in. In key places in his body. Of course, he keeps finding special operations, particularly with this going on. And we Went for a hike this morning. I said, why don't you just come on the show today? He's going to leave town a few hours. He held his flight till tomorrow, the big conference he's having in a few days in Alabama. And so he's going to come in in the fourth hour today and he's gonna present some of the data, the science. This isn't kook stuff, this is real stuff. And then he's gonna scan Johnson again on air and then I haven't been scanned yet. I'm gonna get scanned.

[Neo]

Oh man. Now keep in mind, this isn't kook stuff. Alex makes that qualification almost as if he's acknowledging that so much of his content is kook stuff, but he wants the audience to take it seriously this time. Yeah, so this is a guy named Jesse Beltran and he claims that he had a near death experience when he was 6 and God sent him back because he needed to fulfill his destiny, which apparently is to inform humanity about alien implants that are giving people Havana syndrome.

[Jordan]

Okay, yeah, thank you. I watched finally something God does that's.

[Neo]

Going to help people in the long run because he is older than six. So I watched a fair amount of an interview he did in 2024 with a channel called the Jeff Mara Podcast. And to give you some sense of who's considered a good guest for that show, a week ago they interviewed Courtney Brown about how he'd gotten some remote viewing information from the ET High Council that was important to get out so they can stop an intergalactic war.

[Jordan]

Well, that's nice.

[Neo]

You may remember Courtney Brown as the guy who was spouting a bunch of shit about there being a spaceship behind the Hale Bopp Comet on Coast to coast am, which may have played some role in the Heavens Gate mass suicide. Well, this is the territory where Jesse Beltrans content belongs. But I guess Alex really doesn't want to talk about free speech. So why not do a morning zoo segment where a guy pretends to scan you for alien implants? It's crazier than here's what sucks.

[Jordan]

What sucks?

[Neo]

It's crazy, but it's also boring. Yeah, like there's nothing. Alex isn't even really taking this seriously when he's getting scanned.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And the guy is scanning him and there's like a boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.

[Jordan]

Oh my God, of course there is.

[Neo]

It's like a metal detector on a beach.

[Jordan]

It's a thetan detector. It's a. Fuck. We're going clear Again, God damn it.

[Neo]

Yeah. So I don't really have any clips of that. And honestly, he's just there to promote a documentary called Nano Sapiens, which is put out by the same people who put out that died suddenly. Documentary.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure, sure, sure.

[Neo]

And so he, he's really just there on a PR tour for that. And it's pretty boring.

[Jordan]

It's always interesting to me whenever people continue living that you don't. That you forget about and you're like, well, yeah, of course they're still alive. That guy seems like he should be dead by now. You know what I mean? Like, if you're part of the reason Heaven's Gate went down.

[Neo]

Oh, Courtney Brown.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

You should be dead by now. I don't know why. In my head it's like, well, obviously.

[Neo]

He can't still be alive and doing the same shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah. There's like, there's no way that the universe would allow that to have. Somebody's gonna stop that. But no, of course he is.

[Neo]

No, there's enough credulous audiences who just buy up anything.

[Jordan]

And you think, you think, oh, well, after you, after you do something like that, you go, maybe I won't do that again. But if you're a person who is capable of going, maybe don't do that again. You wouldn't have done it in the first place.

[Neo]

Yeah. You never would have pretended that you remote viewed spaceships, so of course you're.

[Jordan]

Gonna keep doing it.

[Neo]

So I think that I got a real relief out of Alex being like, I'm gonna fucking talk to this firefighter who's gonna scan me for implants. Like, fuck. Yeah.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And it's. It's such a disappointment that it sucks.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

But it gave me some hope in the middle of this.

[Jordan]

In the middle of what we're about to listen.

[Neo]

Dumb shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So Antifa. Alex knows all about their funding.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Andy]

Well, we're going to break here, but I'll. I'll tell you. The main consortium that takes the NGO money and then pays Dandifa, it's run by Alexander Soros. We broke this hard to believe 10 years ago. So. And it's still the same group and we have the documents and the battle plan on it to one of their officers on where to attack, what to do, how to provocateur, how to get the blacks to burn down certain facilities. This particular document is in Maryland. And this was meant to be blamed on Trump right before the election. 2016 Documents Detail Plan for civil unrest and martial law in Baltimore. They're all there. Alexander Soros heads up the group. If you scroll down, we'll give you the name of it. But this is the reality of what we're facing. And I'll cover when we come back from break the actual documents that we.

[Neo]

Broke because I forgot all the details. Well, I. I forgot about the details of these fake things that we found online. And I need to. I need to freshen up during the.

[Jordan]

I remember so many fake details about so many fake things. I don't know why I can't remember the fake details about this particular fake thing.

[Neo]

Alex has forgotten more fake things than you'll ever learn.

[Jordan]

It is. It is. That is a true thing. Somehow I believe. Yes.

[Neo]

So he goes to break brushes up on this, maybe scrolls through Infowars article.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And talk some more about these fake Soros contracts.

[Jordan]

Of course.

[Andy]

On screen you see the smoking gun documents of Alexander Soros's organization that he commands running actual antifa attacks. And the funding. Friends of Democracy Action Bulletin BW10418 Dash 15 Command Attack Plan with all the officer signatures and everything else. His auntie for brother but academic was in jail. His brother went over to take care of the dog and found the document.

[Neo]

Huh.

[Andy]

Brother was a captain. Oh, it's headless. There's no leadership. We can't ever do anything about it. Bull crap.

[Neo]

So it's been a while since we talked about this shit, so I wanted to revisit a few things about these very obviously fake documents.

[Jordan]

No, they're not obviously fake.

[Neo]

For one thing, Alex's mixed up some things. It's a different Soros child, Jonathan Soros, who's involved with this organization. But Alexander Soros got really popular during Pizzagate. Right, and so he's the only Soros kid that Alex knows about.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like when you're adapting a novel to be a screenplay, sometimes you condense the characters into one. I mean, otherwise people get distracted. Yeah, and you don't want to pay the actors.

[Neo]

No, no, no, no. So there's a section in these documents about disbursements for payments of the protesters. Instantly misspells disbursement with a P instead.

[Jordan]

Of a B. Dispersement. Yeah, it makes sense because money comes from purses. I don't understand this whole bursar shit. It should be a purser.

[Neo]

Yeah, that's a notable. Hmm.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So this section also includes a breakdown where the protesters, you know, tells them how they should expect to get their payments from DA Donnelly, who's a point.

[Jordan]

Person very Nice of them.

[Neo]

Quote, this does not leave this document. That's underlined.

[Jordan]

I find it very difficult for something to be printed out and yet also not leave the document itself, but that's fine.

[Neo]

Yeah. And I think that, you know, most documents say, don't snitch on it. You know, don't. Don't tell anyone about this.

[Jordan]

This was. This is a problem that was handled a long time ago with the mission impossible method of destroying the message even immediately after. Otherwise anybody could see it.

[Neo]

Yeah. I just watched Burn After Reading.

[Jordan]

You burn it after reading?

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You don't just say, hey, don't let anybody know about this, but keep it in your bookshelf.

[Neo]

Yeah. So apparently 5 to 10% of the negotiated amount is paid one to two weeks before the protest. 20 to 30% goes out 24 to 48 hours afterwards, and then you get the rest four to six months later.

[Jordan]

I. This is not a good deal.

[Neo]

No. That sucks.

[Jordan]

I'm going to. I'm going to have to bounce. I think I can get an extra gig that pays better than this.

[Neo]

Yeah. People aren't going to riot based on this kind of a payment schedule.

[Jordan]

No.

[Neo]

You can't give me a maximum of 10% upfront if I might die or be seriously wounded in this riot.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Not like there's insurance for me or any kind of medical bills being covered. This is crazy.

[Jordan]

I mean, furthermore, if you are going to get anybody to engage into legal. Into illegal action, you have to frontload. And then half of the, you know, like, it's.

[Neo]

It's the whole premise of, like, terrorists. You have to pay their family if they're going to go suicide bombs.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. This is all money that we're getting. Quick. This is quick cash. We're not talking about an investment. No, this isn't a CD that's going to appreciate over six months.

[Neo]

If you're trying to get me to do a crime, I don't trust you to pay me half a year later.

[Jordan]

That would be insane. On account of we're already criminals.

[Neo]

I have no recourse.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

I can't make you pay me for the crime.

[Jordan]

It almost makes me regret wanting to commit crimes. Yes.

[Neo]

So this document makes it clear that you can slap whoever you want whenever you want.

[Jordan]

That's nice.

[Neo]

But you can only use closed fists, quote, below the neck and above the belt. You're absolutely not allowed to kick anyone, quote, unless provoked, with no other recourse. I'd love for there to be a meeting where these bosses are, like, making A protester justify a kick.

[Jordan]

I would like that. I would like that a lot.

[Neo]

Did you have other recourse?

[Jordan]

Totally.

[Neo]

Well, we're gonna. We're not gonna pay you the rest of.

[Jordan]

Right, right. What are we doing? What is happening? Are you bringing me in for meetings? If you're bringing for me in for meetings, then why are we talking about a document? Like, what was this? What's happening?

[Neo]

We watched the tape and that was not a clean kick. I mean, I was. You had other options.

[Jordan]

What an kick that guy. Grouping of rules.

[Neo]

So dumb.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So Alex also says that these documents were found by a guy who was going over to take care of his brother's dog because he'd gotten arrested. He was an intellectual.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

That's interesting because this is not the version of the story that originally.

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah.

[Neo]

Was told about these documents. Yeah. So here's A clip from January 10, 2018, where Harrison Smith, fresh, fresh on the scene, young buck trying to make a name for himself, came onto Alex's show to break this story.

[Harrison Smith]

So these documents have to do with the 2015 Baltimore riots, the Black Lives Matter riots that were inspired, which we.

[Andy]

Know was funded by the Justice Department.

[Harrison Smith]

Yes, well, yeah, we know that a lot of people are. We're putting funds into all these riots that of course started with Ferguson and spread throughout all of these things. So. So this goes back to 2015. And where this comes from is there is a user on 4chan, and 4chan is a totally anonymous website. You can. Sure.

[Andy]

It's like a place for WikiLeaks.

[Harrison Smith]

Yeah, it's like. It's like WikiLeaks. There's obviously a lot of fake stuff posted there. Probably, but probably this seems pretty real. And so a user says that his pretty. Basically was a loser, a loner, barely had a job, and yet recently in the last couple years, he'd taken to traveling around the United States. So this guy who leaked it said he's a little suspicious, which they admit.

[Andy]

Soros is funding a group of about a thousand. They fly around.

[Harrison Smith]

Well, he just gave $18 billion. I mean, what you could do with that money is ridiculous. So obviously there's tons of funds to fly people around to. To program these people, train these people.

[Andy]

So I'm saying what you read in here is what they're doing. Right, Right.

[Harrison Smith]

And so. And so this leaker says he went looking through his. His brother's stuff, basically looking for proof of. Of where his brother was getting his money. He thought maybe it was going to be drugs. He was looking for Sort of proof that his brother was maybe involved in something he shouldn't be involved in. Well, he found these documents, and so these documents he took a picture of with his cell phone and then posted them to 4chan. And the. It's an action document from the Friends of Democracy, which is a. A pack by George Soros son that it's. Its mission statement is to get money out of politics. So that's funny enough, but this is Action BWI 0418 15. BWI is the airport code for Baltimore. 0418 is April 18, which is 15, 2015, which is the date that the riots started.

[Neo]

Past this point, they did no reporting on this. Like, no investigation, no journalism, nothing. They know nothing more than they did that day when they found these fake fucking documents on 4chan.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Neo]

Alex still pretends that this is super real because it says what he wants it to say, what he needs it to say.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

It's embarrassing to anyone who can think critically, but that doesn't matter because he knows his audience is all people who can't at this point.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So it doesn't matter.

[Jordan]

It's. It's such like that kid way of thinking where it's like, as long as you don't think about it twice, it all makes sense. Oh, they've got $18 billion. That's so much money. And you're like. But if you think about it twice, you would realize that for a revolutionary organization, trying to hide that is a big red flag for people.

[Neo]

Way too much money.

[Jordan]

It's too much money.

[Neo]

Yes.

[Jordan]

You would see that moving around. The point of the revolution is not to be seen doing the revolution.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Until it's time.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, it's ridiculous.

[Neo]

And if $18 billion or whatever. $18 billion, if that was being directed towards revolution, you'd see a lot more than you see now.

[DZX Clark]

Yes.

[Neo]

It would be really crazy.

[Jordan]

Where would that money be even going?

[Neo]

Well, not to the protesters who kick people.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

Yeah. Those checks are canceled.

[Jordan]

Right. So you've got $18 billion. You're not spending it on body armor, obviously. You're not spending it on weapons. You're not spending it on. So what are you even spending it on?

[Neo]

Well, also in these documents, there is a section that says, do not report this money to anyone.

[Jordan]

That's smart.

[Neo]

So, like it. It would be $18 billion that just disappear.

[Jordan]

Right. We wouldn't know because it's on the document that nobody would report it to anybody. So it's all just invisible money now.

[Neo]

Right.

[Jordan]

Well, great.

[Neo]

Brilliant.

[Jordan]

You know, and you would want physical money. Right. You'd want to be. Or perhaps crypto or something. But even then, you know, crypto is a terrible. You need doubloons, buried treasure.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That is where the $18 billion is gone.

[Neo]

If I'm somebody who's working for. That fits.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Right. I'm a paid protester. And in the fashion of these documents. Yeah. I am only taking gold coin.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I can't trust you on anything. This is the least trustworthy looking document ever.

[Neo]

Yeah. I don't even trust cash. That's traceable.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's right.

[Neo]

Fuck you.

[Jordan]

No, they've got numbers. Yeah, they've got numbers.

[Neo]

They can trace that cash melted down bullion.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Neo]

I want a chunk of metal.

[Jordan]

I want to be able to disappear and have money.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

This is it.

[Neo]

So Alex, he's trying to push these antifa Soros documents again. And of course he is. And it's sad, but what else is he going to do? Turns out what else he's going to do is try to go live to a press conference that Pam Bondi is holding.

[Jordan]

Oh, God.

[Neo]

And I honestly think that it's hilarious. Where he accidentally tunes in.

[Andy]

We're going to be getting more of this historic development. It's so big, it's so important. This is the strongest move yet against the. Against the deep state's foot soldiers. It goes right to the top. And then I got everything else that ties into that and from Preparing the Insurrection act and so much more. But first, let's go to Pam Bondi, who's speaking live right now at the White House. In this Cabinet meeting, let's hear what the Attorney General has to say.

[Neo]

And seized 144 illegal guns just in the short time we've been in Memphis.

[DZX Clark]

And many of these people are career criminals. And when you take them out of a place, your crime rate just goes down. These people commit crimes every single day. They're sick.

[Neo]

So he just flips the channel over and she's bragging about gun grabbing.

[Jordan]

Yep. When you remove guns from an environment, there are fewer guns crimes.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yep.

[Neo]

This. This honestly is. Is like out. That's a Alex stepping on a rake.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Like, it's crazy funny in. In a script.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yep.

[Neo]

These people. Oh, man. Okay. They say they don't want free speech anymore, but at least they're not taking the guns. Tune into the press conference. We're taking a lot of guns.

[Jordan]

What is the most specifically awful thing for me to jump into? I mean, it could. It's like, hey now, would you like to Join our pedophile cabal of billionaires. This is me. This is them. This is that guy. You know, like, this is that level.

[Neo]

Yeah. At least you know, Trump's not tearing off his human skin and showing a demon underneath. We go live to a press conference.

[Jordan]

I just want to say that there's no such thing as crisis actors in all school shooting.

[Neo]

Shit.

[Jordan]

Fuck.

[Neo]

So I told you that Alex was going to talk about a movie and here's where he does that. I don't think he's seen it.

[Andy]

The Democrats are falling apart. Their own people are scared. Their own operators aren't willing to carry stuff out. They may be paralyzed at this point. They may not actually do. The false flags that are the final ingredient in all their war games. The Modesta plan, the movies, battle after battle that's currently out saying how great and sexy it is to go bomb federal buildings and blow up ice facilities. And Civil war came out last year. It's all the Podesta plan, folks. The joker, all of it. They tell you, but they want somebody else to go do it for them. They want to stir you up to do it, but people aren't buying it.

[Neo]

So we went to go see one battle after another. And I really don't think that you could see that and think that it was trying to make bombing stuff sexy.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It would be the complete opposite.

[Neo]

Yeah. I think that the message of the movie does not. I mean, there's sexualized things that happen.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

In the context of, you know, domestic terrorism.

[Jordan]

Right. I think the, the, the, the way to look at it would be that it is the fucking that the bombing is personifying. It's all about the sex. That's not good though, because that's not a sustainable revolution.

[Neo]

Right. The revolution that involves blowing up buildings and, and robbing banks and stuff like that is compulsive.

[Jordan]

It's for young people.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It has like an element to it that self defeating, self burning out.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And I think that that's really a message that the movie captures.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And I think that. I don't know, I find it interesting that I took forever to see Civil War, so I just heard Alex complain about it. I watched it. I'm like, that has nothing to do with what you're talking about. But now this one's gonna be thrown in.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's strange to just determine what things are based on trailers. That seems, it seems like we had a whole like never judge a book by its cover thing for a while that people would at least give lip service to. But now it's just, fuck it, Judge that book by its goddamn cover. And if you have to go to the COVID you weren't listening to the title.

[Neo]

Yeah, yeah. And I think. I think that this speaks to, like, one of the ways that Alex and folks who were of his type have really changed media, and that is that there is so little literacy about what the thing that you're seeing is saying.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And that is troubling. Like, I think that Alex should probably be offended by a fair amount of things that are in one battle after another. Sure. But I don't think that if you watch that fairly, you would come away with the conclusion that he is.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Like, I just. I don't think you can see the movie and think that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that would be kind of silly.

[Neo]

Yeah. So another thing that's silly is to imagine that at this point, you can possibly say that Trump is doing well. I just don't.

[Jordan]

I don't see it.

[Neo]

No. But Alex does.

[Jordan]

How about it?

[Andy]

If you're really honest about it, Trump's knocking out of the park. I mean, I got so much more he's doing. He's overperforming what I thought he could get done over performing. Now I wish he could. Pie in the sky. Everything's magical.

[Neo]

It.

[Andy]

You know, if wishes were real and money grew on trees and all the rest of it, you know, the Easter Bunny was real, Santa Claus was real. But in the real world, Trump's Michael Jordan. When it comes to getting stuff done, I mean, I. That's all I can say. And so people that want instant gratification, people that just want to sit around and bitch all day. Black pill people are babies way. And things are moving very quick compared to where they were before. For the good in general. That's why evil's panicking and so dangerous.

[Neo]

Any. Any president could get a ton of shit done if they just ignored the courts and Congress. Trump is overperforming in Alex's eyes because he's violating fundamental principles that Alex used to pretend to care about. If you cheat, you can usually win. And you only get punished for cheating when a system is capable of holding you responsible for cheating.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And what we're seeing now is that we may not be able to. The system may not be designed in a way that can handle cheating.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, if you want to put it in more crass terms, if America was a casino, Donald Trump would be in a hole, being beaten to death by very large angry men.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Yeah. It's. The story hasn't ended Right, right. We don't know ultimately what the conclusion of all this is.

[Jordan]

The floor boss could still call the people together and grab the guy from the comically huge theft machine.

[Neo]

Yeah. Right now it does feel like we may be learning in a very tough, unfortunate way that we don't have a system that was built to do the things we thought it was. Sure. We just had people in office who didn't do these things.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right, right. We were all living pretend. Yep.

[Neo]

So Alex has a guest on the show, and it's not a firefighter who's gonna scan him for boop boops.

[Jordan]

That's nice.

[Neo]

It is a sitting member of Congress.

[Jordan]

That's less nice.

[Neo]

Yeah. Tommy Tuberville.

[Jordan]

Oh. Oh, I thought it was Marjorie Taylor. Tommy Tuberville. That guy.

[Neo]

Tommy Tuberville, former football coach.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And then people were like, of course you should make decisions about laws.

[Neo]

Mm. Yep.

[Jordan]

You got that guy to the end zone.

[Neo]

Yeah. He did some dicey financial stuff in.

[Jordan]

Between, but that sounds right.

[Neo]

Then he got into Congress and now he's just a big old piece of shit.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Andy]

We got these documents. 10 years ago. They planned to have nationwide riots, create a race war to try to stop Trump from getting in. Alexander Soros funded it. We got the secret documents, we broke these, and in it, it's called the Friends of Democracy, run by Alexander Soros. Battle plans, where to attack. And they say you're going to stir up the blacks. The media is going to claim the police are racist. Your job is to get the blacks to attack because they wouldn't go along with it. Now they brought in the illegal aliens and they admit that that's their army. So what you said earlier about this is basically a mob for antifa and the Democrats to try to trigger something. But because this is being exposed, we just blew their rocket up on the launch pad, Senator.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yeah. And where do you start, Alex? You start in the cities. You start in the urban areas. We are losing our cities daily in this country. They're almost dead.

[Neo]

We have senators who will sit on Alex's show and listen to him talk about these fake Soros antifa contract and how it was a plot to whip up the black people and how it didn't work, so they've brought in illegal immigrants. Like, we're at a point where that guy doesn't need to leave. Yeah, he should need to leave.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

He should be worried about being kicked out of office for being in this interview.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Instead he's just like, you bet, Alex. Yeah. Cities are dying.

[Jordan]

This One is weird because it feels like this one is a strange wave in American politics that just kind of comes and goes. Like the tide, like in it. Like the crimson tide, if you will. No, he wasn't Alabama.

[Neo]

He was Ole Miss. No, wait, was he Alabama? I don't remember.

[Jordan]

Who cares? Yeah, but. But it is like, you know, you go back to the know nothing party or you go back and there's just like every now and again there's just a bunch of fucking lunatics who show up and they become the senator and then a couple of years later they're gone. Like, it's wild that America keeps producing these things and they keep getting into office.

[Neo]

Ole Miss.

[DZX Clark]

Yeah.

[Neo]

I accidentally almost searched tommy2tone when I was looking for Tuberville.

[Jordan]

Not a.

[Neo]

And I'd rather have him in the Senate.

[Jordan]

Not a coach, though.

[Neo]

Ole Miss. Auburn.

[Jordan]

Auburn, that's what it was.

[Neo]

Texas Tech and then Cincinnati. What do you think his career record was?

[Jordan]

Let's go with 550 and 450.

[Neo]

159 and 99.

[Jordan]

That's not bad. That's pretty good.

[Andy]

No.

[Neo]

All right, good for him.

[Jordan]

But you know what that doesn't do qualify you for office.

[Neo]

In the late 70s, he coached high school.

[Jordan]

Oh, well, never mind.

[Neo]

And this loser had a losing record coaching high school ball for two seasons, 9 and 10.

[Jordan]

You know, what a loser he was. He was probably a better recruiter than he was a coach. And that may be why we're. Why we're talking about him today.

[Neo]

Yeah, except. Except he said that he recruited Mahomes and Mahomes said no, he didn't. Well, so maybe he's not a great recruiter.

[Jordan]

I mean, he's a pretty good liar though. That's probably what got him into Congress.

[Neo]

Yeah, definitely. And he's a great guy who at hating Muslims. Great, because Alex wants to focus primarily on, you know, like Central America, South American population.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Neo]

And Tuberville is way more interested in being like, we got to get out Muslims.

[Jordan]

Great, great.

[Andy]

We have all the imams saying we're going to capture you, their ally with the left. This is a cancer. Here is the call to prayer in Dearborn, Michigan. This is happening in all the place. Oh, you can't have church bells during the day, but we can blare Sharia law at midnight, everybody. This is literally them marking their territory. Here it is. Starts at 6:00am in the morning, ends at midnight.

[Jordan]

Wait.

[Andy]

And then, folks, if you don't do this in our countries, they kill you.

[Neo]

I shall.

[Andy]

All right, let's turn it off. I can't listen anymore. Senator, this is. Have you seen the footage where they go into businesses in Houston and threaten them because they're selling beer and. Sandra, Islam. You can't sell beer. We're coming back. We're going to get you. I mean, this is out of control.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Oh, I've seen it. I've seen it all. We get all kind of information up here, but we got people on both sides of the aisle got their head in the damn sand. We better get our head up. We better understand what. What's coming. They're coming to our streets. What gives them the right, Alex, to go out in the middle of the street.

[Andy]

Street.

[The Mysterious Professor]

In a lot of these big cities and do their prayer?

[Jordan]

The constant fucking tout.

[The Mysterious Professor]

You don't do that in your countries only. You do it where you want to, as you said earlier. You want to mark your ground. And that's what they're doing. They're taking over slowly but surely. We have to fight back. Sharia law needs to be banned in this country. If we don't do it, we're going to lose the United States of America to a bunch of people coming over here that want to kill us.

[Neo]

This is bad. So this is all about a mosque in Dearborn, Michigan, that put up loudspeakers to do the call to prayer. Sure. The city council's received some noise complaints from people who live near the mosque, and at least one of the mosques in question turned off the speakers in response to that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And there's conversation that's going on about regulation. There's a reason that they're doing a coordinated attack on the American Muslim community focused on Dearborn. Yeah. And that's because it's one of the cities in the United States with the deepest Islamic history. In the 1920s, there was a large influx of Muslim immigrants to the city who came to work in Ford factories. And it led to a high population of.

[Jordan]

They were the best jobs at the time. That happened around a factory. It happens around most factory towns. Certain little pockets build up.

[Andy]

It's weird.

[Neo]

This led to the founding of the American Muslim Society in 1938, which operates the Dearborn Mosque and now approximately 2,000 capacity house of worship. In the 80s, they were broadcasting a call to prayer through exterior speakers, and the city tried to make them stop, which led to the courts deciding that they were the equivalent of church bells.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So they were within their right to do this with external speakers.

[Jordan]

Hard to argue. If you can do the church bells, they can't do the thing, right? Yep.

[Neo]

This mosque and the Muslim community of Dearborn are at the core of establishing some basic rights for mosques in the United States. So to people like Alex and Tuberville, they represent the precedent that needs to be overturned. The Dearborn Mosque was the one that fought for the right to broadcast their call to prayer. So if it turns out they can't do it after all, then it builds an argument that none of the other mosques can either.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

For what it's worth, there's no way the mosque is doing calls to prayer at midnight because Muslims traditionally pray five times a day with the first one being around 6am and the last one being around 8. 8pm yeah. You can't say a specific time because the time changes based on sunrise and sunset. But what Alex is saying is ridiculous. I know that a lot of cities have noise ordinances, and if the first prayer of the day happens before people are allowed to make noise in public, then I think it's appropriate for the mosque to not do the call to prayer on their external speakers for that one. There are rules about how you can't do construction before a certain time in most cities because that noise disturbs people at a time when they have the right to expect quiet. I think it's possible to make a point about the timing of the first prayer of the day, but if you're complaining about any of the others, you're just a bigot.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

There's no other way around it.

[Jordan]

I mean, you know, it's fun to talk shit and we're talking shit, but in the, in reality, I don't care what any other, any municipal problems are that are not my municipal problems. You know what I mean? Like, this is just a regular. Let's go to city hall. I'm not. Why are we talking about somebody else's city hall? You know what I mean?

[Neo]

Well, because this particular City hall is at the. The cornerstone of this battle in the 80s around mosque's right to broadcast the call to prayer.

[Andy]

Right.

[Neo]

So it is a symbolic thing that must be attacked by these people in order to attack the Muslim population as a whole.

[Jordan]

Exactly, exactly.

[Neo]

That's why this municipal problem escalates.

[Jordan]

Right. But it's a fundamentally bullshit thing. It's not like they're going, oh, and also fucking Frankfort, Kentucky has a noise ordinance that I also don't like, but that one's because of blah, blah, blah. It's, you know, it's like just. If there's a noise ordinance in your town.

[Neo]

Yeah, deal.

[Jordan]

With it in your town.

[Neo]

Yeah. This factory is too loud, too early.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Or something. Cool.

[Jordan]

Let's have a meeting. That's how this whole thing is supposed to work. It's not supposed to work by somebody in Austin being like, see, they're taking over.

[Neo]

Like, that's a senator.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That's no good.

[Neo]

In a different state.

[Jordan]

Senator from a different state. Part of the whole agreement is, leave my fucking state alone, assholes.

[Neo]

It'd be nice, especially around, like, local and religious matters.

[Jordan]

Like, just. We all live here. You don't leave us alone. We'll figure it out.

[Neo]

Yeah. Also, that video that Alex mentions from Houston is of a guy named Imam Kassim Khan. And he's not threatening business owners who sell beer. He started a campaign to confront Muslim business owners who sell things that are forbidden by Islam, like pork and lotto tickets. And he's posted some videos of him doing that on TikTok.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure, sure, sure.

[Neo]

I still don't support what that gu. But Alex should be totally into it. I don't believe that religious belief should decide what people can or can't sell, but Alex does. He would be entirely behind some Christian group going to pharmacies run by Christians and shaming them for selling contraception, which is essentially the same thing.

[Jordan]

I'm sure that they've done that.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I have no doubt.

[Neo]

I don't like the idea of somebody, you know, pressuring a business owner.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Based on the religion that they share. Because that's still intimidation. And that's still. That's, you know, I don't think that's appropriate. But it's different than what Alex is presenting this as, which is like, Muslims bullying everyone.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

To follow their rule.

[Jordan]

I mean, hey, if you can excommunicate an abortion doctor, then fuck you. They can go to whatever fucking Muslim house they want to and cause problems there. I don't give a shit.

[Neo]

So I don't care about Tommy Tuberville. He sucks. And a lot of this is just dehumanizing, horrible stuff about Muslims. So him, he. He goes on his merry way. And Alex gets back to the main issues.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

The real issues that matter.

[Andy]

Right.

[Neo]

Like monkeys in Japan.

[Jordan]

That does matter.

[Andy]

We know the way the world works. You make a kid work, you make them do a job. You make them appreciate things. You teach them how to do everything. You're not being mean to them. You're teaching them how to be somebody. They've got. Got famous Ice Monkeys is what they're called. Just because, you know, it's frozen up in the mountains part of the year, pull up monkeys of Japan. And they live by these hot springs. And as soon as humans started feeding them, they're like super fat. They're. You know, they only weigh like 100 pounds, but they should weigh like 30 pounds. It's like a 500 pound person. And they're super fat and they're super depressed and they just sit around all day bitching and complaining.

[Jordan]

In what language?

[Neo]

Japanese.

[Andy]

They've done studies on how miserable any animal is that ends up getting taken care of. Show obese Japanese monkeys. And the point is, we all know this. Yeah. I mean, look at this. This is the left right here. Not just weight wise, it's spiritual. Good job, crew.

[Neo]

Find that.

[Andy]

30 seconds. Good God. They're good, man. Best ever. Amazing. Wow.

[Neo]

Amazing. I don't know how they do it. Find a picture of a fat monkey.

[Jordan]

Just Google image, search a picture of a fat monkey and boom, there it is.

[Neo]

Generally speaking, animals that live in colder climates will tend to be fatter because they need to store energy and have insulation.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

He's calling these ice monkeys.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It's a little clue. Maybe it's actually that humans started feeding them and they got all fat and lazy and depressed and complained all the time.

[Jordan]

Could be they do too much bitching.

[Neo]

Yeah. So in the late 2000s, there were a bunch of stories about some macaques at the Ohama Park Zoo in Japan who had gotten really fat. The zookeeper speculated that it was because they were feeding the monkeys and people were throwing food into their enclosure and the park was open 24 hours a day.

[Jordan]

That's.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

They prohibited feeding the monkeys. And there have been less stories about this ever since.

[Jordan]

Funny how that works.

[Neo]

Also, because they're naturally found in cold habitats, studies have found that the Japanese macaque has a higher frequency of obesity than similar primates in other climate.

[Jordan]

Right. Like bears are more likely to hibernate on account of that's what they do.

[Neo]

Yeah. So I. Man, fat monkeys.

[Jordan]

I mean, but that's. See, this is what gets back to the fucking idiocy of that is what dehumanization is. You are calling the left monkeys incapable of controlling their own behavior. Right. It is humanization to call you a Nazi because you are in control of your own behavior. And that behavior is a choice that you have made to be a giant piece of shit.

[Neo]

Yeah. I'm giving you the credit of believing that your positions are your choice.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And what you actually believe.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[DZX Clark]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And I. I'm responding to it accordingly.

[Jordan]

That's. I would. I would like the same respect. Yeah, but apparently that's not how it works.

[Neo]

No. Nah, they did. Nope. So, Bill Gates, you remember that guy?

[Jordan]

I've heard of him.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Seems to be less important lately.

[Jordan]

I mean, he was in the top 14 for a while and now it feels like he's fallen out of the top 50.

[Neo]

Well, I mean, in the real world, like, I feel like we're hearing a lot less about Bill Gates.

[Jordan]

Sure. He's keeping a low profile. Yeah, probably smart.

[Neo]

Yeah. Alex still thinks he's really important and probably is a top level demon in him. Okay, not Satan, but someone will hide top up there.

[Andy]

I don't think he's possessed by the Antichrist, but like one of the top demons.

[Jordan]

I mean, he, he, he is like.

[Andy]

When you look at Bull Gates, you're looking at a interdimensional creature.

[Neo]

Young scratch.

[Andy]

And for those of you that don't have discernment, I actually envy you because I can just look at somebody and tell you what's going on. And I look at Bill Gates and it makes my skin crawl. I mean, look at that thing right there. He's got one mission, kill, steal and destroy. One mission, kill your ass. Oh, oh. Get him off screenplays. So. But I don't need to have my discernment. I can temporarily meaning on the third dimension, study him and he is as evil as you can get. He makes Joseph Mengele and Mao say tongue blush. And he's been given all this power because he is a vessel. There's not a person in there that's an entity.

[Neo]

It's a wash in h.

[Andy]

Enjoying everything he does.

[Jordan]

Wait, can't, can he?

[Andy]

So I'm gonna tile this into Trump and everything that's going on here in a moment. But I need to tell listener something. Something. I got a chat. GPT Boo analysis here that's accurate. And I asked it this morning, what is the future of Infowars? How long will it be on air?

[Jordan]

It exploded.

[Andy]

Because I'm not going to spend more than two minutes on this. But everybody keeps asking me. But a lot of listeners are sick of it. So am I. And it's just a couple pages long. And it's got all the state court, federal court stuff, but it says Infowars will be shut down within one week to two months. In all of our analysis, that's what I told the crew.

[Neo]

Okay, So I asked a robot if I was going out of business.

[Jordan]

Shake a Magic 8 ball.

[Neo]

Yeah, right. I asked the oracle if.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

How Long I have left.

[Jordan]

I went to Delphi, said I'm fucked. Jesus Christ.

[Neo]

And that's what I've been telling the crew. We're done work.

[Jordan]

Okay, here's what we got to get. We got to get a handle on this, all right?

[The Mysterious Professor]

Right.

[Jordan]

Top demons, Right? How are we ranking demon? Presumably we got old scratch, top of the list. Right. Then we've got another tier of demons beneath that. What separates these two in terms of. Are we talking about just power levels? Like, is it. Is it like Lucifer, Like a Mortal Kombat kind of tower situation?

[Neo]

Where. But in the. In. In the Mortal Kombat tower, if I. If I recall correctly, was it always the same order? I know the last few were something like that, but I think. I think it randomized. Well, maybe.

[Jordan]

Well, let's say that the lower levels, demons are always jockeying for position. But the top. The top tier is. The top tier. Right.

[Andy]

Goro, what do.

[Jordan]

What are we talking about in terms of, like, why these are separated? If. If one of these demons that has clearly taken over Bill Gates.

[Neo]

Right.

[Jordan]

If they challenged Lucifer, how's Lucifer winning?

[Neo]

Well, Shang Tsung could turn into other people.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

He had everyone's abilities.

[Andy]

Right.

[Jordan]

So Lucifer has this person's abilities as well.

[Neo]

Perhaps.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

One of them, I can't remember which, had like three arms on each side. Did like six arms.

[Jordan]

That was Goro.

[Neo]

Yeah. He has a serious advantage.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

He's also giant. There's that one other guy who was like part bull, I think.

[Andy]

Right.

[Neo]

And then you bring killer instinct into this. And then you got like. Yeah, that skeleton guy.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Saber, wolf.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

You know, like they.

[Jordan]

Then you got the DLC characters.

[Neo]

Sure.

[Jordan]

You got Superman in there.

[Neo]

Oh, you're talking. You're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The new Mortal Kombat.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

All.

[Jordan]

All, all bets are off now that we've added, I think. Jason. Yeah.

[Neo]

Noob Saibot.

[Andy]

Right.

[Neo]

Right.

[Jordan]

Satan can't go up against Noob Saibot.

[Neo]

No way.

[Jordan]

Right. There's no chance. Where is Satan? Power level wise? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

[Neo]

Who wins? Satan.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Or Cyrax.

[Jordan]

Cyrax? Isn't that good? I don't know. I think. I think Satan takes him.

[Neo]

What about Balrog? We bring Street Fighter into this.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Well, I mean, the actual Balrog can win. Balrog and Street Fighter.

[DZX Clark]

Nah.

[Neo]

Blanca versus Devil.

[Jordan]

Blanca is a top tier character. Blanca wins for sure.

[Neo]

I think I have a couple of responses to what you're saying.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Neo]

As with fighting games, I think It's a little bit about personality with the demons.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Neo]

I think that each has their own, like, little set.

[Jordan]

Like, you know, all right, they got their move sets. They got their. Their ups and downs. They got their advantages, disadvantages.

[Neo]

Yeah. Some are a little tankier than others. Some of them have a little bit of more reach.

[Jordan]

So we're talking about playstyle, style. Right. So the Devil is kind of. Frankly, he's kind of an op character. Nobody wants to play with the Devil. Right. Because he just wins too much.

[Neo]

Yeah. There's no challenge. You're hacky at the game of life if you have the Devil.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. He's like a. He's like, on easy. I gotcha. I gotcha.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And then secondarily, I think if you're trying to identify who these demons are, you're a fool, because, you know, we know the names of some of these rich people in the world. Right, Right. The real power. These are people whose names you'll never know.

[Jordan]

That'd be.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Presumably.

[Jordan]

That would how it. That would have to be how it works.

[Neo]

Right. And you'd be a damn fool if you think. You know demons names. If you think, like a Zazel, you really think that he's a top guy?

[Jordan]

No, I mean, hey, if you know their name, they're not a top guy, clearly.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Right. Here's my next question. All right. If it is pleasurable to be a person, to possess a person, why are not all demons in the process of possessing people right now?

[Neo]

Well, from listening to Lee Strobel, we know there's a finite number of demons.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Neo]

So there might be. They might all be busy.

[Jordan]

Have all the demons possessed people? Have we finally reproduced enough human beings that the demons now have a full population?

[Neo]

It's possible.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Neo]

Another possibility is that there's some element of demon hood that we don't understand.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Neo]

And, like, they can only possess for a certain amount of time, and then there's, like, a refractory period that's.

[Jordan]

That's unfair. That I would be very. I would. You know what? I would resent my creator enough to go to hell for that.

[Neo]

There may be a recharge period or something like that. So, like, at any given time.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Only half of the potential demons are pleasurably right. Being in people.

[Jordan]

Right. And if they were anything but demons, they could organize themselves into waves or shifts. You know, so everybody's always being possessed at a time, but they're. They're so uncoordinated.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Also, I think that if demons could Possess someone permanently.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Then they would start to identify with that person, you would think, and maybe they could learn to love.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, if you. If you think. If you think of many emotions as being glandular, the only way to teach a demon how to love is through possession.

[Neo]

Right? Yeah.

[Jordan]

Deep.

[Neo]

Yep.

[Jordan]

Anyway, now that we've gotten to the.

[Neo]

Bottom of that, the chat GPT says Alex is going out of business.

[Jordan]

That's the plan.

[Neo]

And so you know what that means. You got to move some products.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Neo]

Alex has a new shirt that he's selling that's a veteran of the infowar, because he's about to lose, probably, the right to sell things that say infowars.

[Jordan]

Designed by a chat GT GPT, Probably.

[Neo]

And he's getting into the promo code game. Ooh.

[Andy]

Cmos. Iris. CMOS is a magical thing. Boost immunity, energy boost detox, cleanse radiant hair and skin libido. Everything else. Get CMOS now 50% off, and it gets better. Sure should have said this up front. Get the Hakeem Jeffries clip ready. Hakeem Jeffries is now blowing up in all these interviews saying, shut up, shut up, shut up. Because he can't debate. He's an idiot. If you guys keep exposing us, I'll put you all in prison. I'll get you and your little dog, too. He's saying, shut up. Don't you argue with me. I'm God. I'm a leftist. He wants to censor. He wants to shut us all down. It's what he wants above all things. So when you use promo code Hakeem, or sombrero, because he hates the joke of a sombreros. I love Mexican food.

[Jordan]

I love Mexico.

[Andy]

The point is, you want to give illegal aliens. Mexico's part of it. All this free stuff, all citizens don't get it. So we put a sombrero on you. And then he goes and bitches and says, stop putting sombreros on.

[Neo]

So what happened here is that Trump posted a deep fake video on Truth Social, the social media site that he owns, that featured Chuck Schumer discussing how no one likes Democrats anymore, so they brought in illegal immigrant populations to vote for them, which used to be the kind of thing you'd just hear Nazis discussing, but now seems to be the stated position of one of our two political parties.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

So in the video, Hakeem Jeffries is standing next to Schumer, and the editor has added a sombrero and a mustache over him.

[Harrison Smith]

Him.

[Neo]

And mariachi music is playing in the background. It's very clearly racist in intent. But more importantly, I thought that it was a huge problem that politicians would use deepfakes.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

I guess the president only has to live up to the standards that you have for some random shit poster online now. And like, Alex defends this by being like, it's clearly a joke. Maybe it is, but there's people who think that the earth is flat.

[Jordan]

So, I mean, you know, to a certain extent, this is. This is kind of something of a relief for me personally. Um, because I've been saying, you know, this shit for a while and to see it come to pass is, you know, what I expected. Right. Um. But man, the President posted a deep fake video is really something that I never could have. I never could have seen coming. There's. It's nice to be surprised by the universe no matter what. What?

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Right. No matter how bad you think things can get, the president can post a deep fake video.

[Neo]

Yeah. And I think that it would be fair to say that it's clearly a joke, but I don't take for granted that everyone has that level of literacy with media.

[Jordan]

The president doesn't get to make that joke.

[Neo]

No, he really shouldn't. It's dangerous. And then the second aspect of it is that I think it's very obvious that someone has put a sombrero and mustache on this one person.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It's not as obvious that the words Chuck Schumer is saying are fake.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It's fake audio that is AI created.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

That's made to look like he's saying these things. Yeah. So you could think that the visual aspect of it is fake, but Schumer actually said this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It's easy for people to definitely.

[The Mysterious Professor]

No.

[Jordan]

And you can crop it out and you can do all kinds of stuff and you can make it look like, hey, the President posted this. This is real.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like there. I understand. This is not. This is not naive because I don't expect people to do it. But if there are going to be expectations. If you take on the responsibility of really any government figure, there's a trade off. You don't get to do certain shit if you don't. If you want to do that shit, you can. Of course you can. But you don't also get to do this job. That's the trade off, buddy. That's it.

[Neo]

It's the idea of public service.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It's. You owe something to the public in. In terms of how you carry yourself.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Neo]

You're bound voluntarily by some decency rules.

[Jordan]

No one is asking you to do it. Nobody is for. Clearly nobody's forcing you to do it. No, it's just the trade off. That's the idea. Yep.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yep.

[Neo]

So Jeffries didn't get mad and demand that everyone stop putting sombreros on him. He just said that the video was racist. And then J.D. vance tried to pretend that he didn't understand how anyone could see such a thing, which is all part of the baiting that they're trying to do, which Alex is doubling down on.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And trying to get a piece of here with his promo codes.

[Jordan]

Yeah, we need more tomatoes on hand at all times. Because if somebody, like, if somebody says something like, I don't see how you could see that as racist. You should just hit him with tomatoes. Like, that's good old fashioned politicking.

[Neo]

Yeah, I think it's the best way. Yeah. Tomatoes not really going to hurt. No, it's embarrassing.

[Jordan]

It's going to be plenty embarrassing whenever you wipe off that tomato from your face.

[Neo]

So Alex, you know, he's thinking about sombreros and he realizes, like, hey, there's that one time that I've talked about a lot where I threw a hat and it landed on Owen Schroyer's head. I kind of miss Owen. And so I'm thinking about that a lot. And so I'm gonna get my employees to try to throw a hat on my head.

[Jordan]

No difference is, though, put a sombrero.

[Andy]

On me means I'm drinking tequila, having a great time, eating some great food. I don't want great people. People with you. It means you're giving foreigners free stuff to come vote for you, and that's treason. So that's why he doesn't like this umbrella. The left, they can talk about me with sharia, call to prayer and Muslims and all the stabbing deaths in Minnesota and how the police were covering it up. They thought that discredited me, but people went, no, that's true. What do you say? See? So, see, the humor is great when it's based in truth and it's actually real. And you thought you could lie in humor, but people knew the truth, so the humor was great. Great, because it wasn't funny no more. Oh, give it to me. Oh, my God, Matt, you gotta try better than that. Hey, get. Get the famous Owen Schroyer thing. I love Owen. Get that Where I remember I throw the cowboy hat from like 30ft away and it hits him on the head perfectly. Remember that? Okay, we're gonna have a game with the crew. Get in here. I don't have that much money. But it's all right. I got like $20,000 in the bank. They're gonna seize that next week. That's all. Because okay. I actually love it. It's hilarious. Cuz everywhere I go I get my dinner bought by everybody else. How it works. Hey guys. You get three turns. Matt Weber, get in here. The morning producer does a great job. Get in here. You got three tries to throw the subar on my head. Okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Harris, the Smith wants to try. Guys, queue up the famous Owen thing. When I throw the thing 30ft away, it hits around the head. By the way Owen moves and it would. But then the thing course corrects it goes to his head. It was my skill anyways. I get the credit for that. Here we go. Oh my goodness. Harris, you gotta do better than that. Good Lord, man. I'm joking. It's hard. No, no, no, no. That's too far away. Go ahead.

[Jordan]

Ah.

[Andy]

I tell you what, let's come back and I'm gonna try to do it on your head. Thousand dollar prize, the crew member. You each get three tries.

[Jordan]

Almost.

[Andy]

Hey, let's go out the break here though. This is. I'm gonna host the rest of this though. I'm. Where's the mariachi bands? I love everything Mexican. I love Mexican women. I love Mexican food. I love Mexican.

[Jordan]

Things are going great.

[Andy]

I don't like the drug cartels and not have any rights. But other than that we could ever free Mexico be a great place.

[Neo]

So what I'm feeling is that Alex thinks that video of him throwing that hat on Owen's head is really great.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yep.

[Neo]

And he wants to recreate it with someone other than Owen because it hurts him to have to see Owen in the video of that like lightning in a bottle moment. Yeah, it's. It's magic. He threw a hat and it landed on Owen's head.

[Jordan]

The very next scene after this is a split screen duet between Alex Jones and Owen Schroyer as they each sing one half of a song in harmony with each other.

[Neo]

Yeah. The next scene I have two things that I have two pitches that I'm going to throw at.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Neo]

One is it cuts to Owen and he's throwing hat on his own head.

[Jordan]

Yes. That's quite good.

[Neo]

They're both like looking at the same star.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

That kind of thing.

[Jordan]

I'll do that.

[Neo]

Or we go a different direction and it's Alex drunk as shit later that night, leaving a voicemail. Okay. On Owens.

[DZX Clark]

All right.

[Neo]

Oh, it's a River. But I threw that hat.

[Jordan]

Here's what I see. Here's what I see. And admittedly, this is darker. I see everything being totally normal. Alex getting in his car and driving home and everything. Just saying hi and then tossing his hat on the. On the little thing on the hat. Holder. Coat rack.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Right.

[Jordan]

Kind of giving a. And then he goes to his basement where we find out that he's constructed a.

[Andy]

No. Insurer.

[Jordan]

Out of meat. And he throws the hat on top of that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And he hits it every.

[Jordan]

Every single time. Can't miss.

[Neo]

Can't do it with anybody else. And that is tormenting him.

[Jordan]

Weeping as he throws the hat.

[Neo]

I threw away my relationship with the only person I could throw a hat on. Fuck. So I thought, like, this.

[Jordan]

Owen was my hat on a hat.

[Neo]

I thought this was a fantastic use of time.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

You know, like, Trump has come out and said, I don't like the First Amendment, and we're gonna just throw hats around.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Neo]

So he said he was gonna come back from break and do more hat throwing. And I thought, there's no way, but he does.

[Jordan]

Oh, boy.

[Andy]

I gotta say, it looks good on me, doesn't it? Anyways, Is that a frog hat? Sombrero. Even cooler. Okay, Darren McBrain is in here, and he. He wants to get on camera. McBrain, you want to try to win the thousand dollars right now? All right, go ahead. Let's see if you can do it now. You're doing this from, like, 20ft away. I did, like, 30 with that one. Go ahead. Almost. Good God. Knock my. Knock my topa chico over. You get one more McBreeny. Good God, what a mess you made over here. All right, go ahead. One more shot. All right, this is. We've. This is actually more fun than covering the nuclear war. Yes, I like this.

[Jordan]

Do more.

[Andy]

Go ahead. You got one more shot. I told you, get three, but each time your pay gets docked. I'm joking. Yeah, you can cheat. See, I didn't say how far away either. Guys, show me, with Owen how good I am at this. One shot. Go ahead.

[Jordan]

This is so sad. This is so sad.

[Andy]

Almost. All right, dude, get in here. Your time. I'll just. I'll throw it on your head. Dude, just want to. Over. Hold on. Got Doing the shot. Almost. All right, here we go. All right. Pretty good.

[Jordan]

The light leaves his eyes like bobbing for apples or.

[Andy]

What's the thing. The dunking thing where you. We should put a dunking thing in here and do that to me the last Day. We're on air. Rob. Come on. Here we go. Sombrero is a little harder to step in. You guys are definitely successful. Knocking my ultra blue over, though. Get one more. Get one more truck, you know? All right, all right. You can save the world from nuclear war if you do this.

[Neo]

All right.

[Andy]

Use the force, man. Don't overthink it. We all die in nuclear war. Danny, you want to try? Come on.

[Jordan]

Why can you make everything suck?

[Andy]

Long way to the top. You want to rock and roll? Come on. Let's go. See if you can do it. Almost. Hey, get two more. Oh, negative. It just impacted on the surface. Come on.

[Jordan]

Everybody gets three tries or we watch the video again.

[Andy]

All right, continue. One more shot. Almost.

[Neo]

It's a.

[Andy]

It's. It's good, though. All right, Anybody else got a plan? Yeah, these look silly until you're out in the heat. They make a lot of sense that way. Oh, you want to try, Rob Agueros? I don't know. I'm going to let you take. I like this. What if I start wearing this all the time? I like it, actually way better than Hitler mustache.

[Neo]

Yeah, I'd say so. I. I mean, these people are just. They're kids. They want to play. This is play.

[Jordan]

Then play.

[Neo]

Yeah, but no one with that. Yeah, I would be fine with it, too, but no one want to watch it.

[Jordan]

No.

[Neo]

Like, the only reason that they, like, anyone cares about, hey, these guys are throwing hats on each other's heads is because they're also telling you that demons are coming for you.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And stoking, intense racial hatred.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And xenophobia.

[Jordan]

There's something about the juxtaposition.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know, like a morning zoo crew is, you know, annoying, but they're just doing what they do. That's their whole thing. They're not also, like, trying to destabilize democracy.

[Neo]

Yeah. And this, I think, is. Is a manifestation of Alex kind of like, I don't want to talk about what Trump is doing.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Cuz it's really bad.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

I went to that press conference, and they were just talking about taking guns. I can't really do anything. I got nothing.

[DZX Clark]

Mm.

[Neo]

Let's throw hats around. It's kind of like the hatchet throwing, but boring and safe.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's absolutely.

[Neo]

You're gonna knock over a topo chico. You're not gonna throw an ax into a. Into a camera.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And that. That's how this feels. This is. This is a guy who's kind of excited about the possibility of having a dunk tank on his last day. 100% like, this is set. This is someone who's checked out.

[Jordan]

I remember this would be like, when I was in grade school. I remember there were days where the teacher would just have reached the maximum amount of everything and be like, guess what? We're playing Heads up seven up now.

[Neo]

Especially if it's, like, a week before summer break.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. I can't do any of this bullshit anymore for another second. So you guys play while I see about how my life is going. Not as great as I'd like.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Absolute.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yep.

[Neo]

The guy with the weird microchip reader that beep boops at me only paid for the fourth hour, so I got to kill some fucking time here. Let's throw hats for 10 minutes, because it goes on longer than I believe you, and that felt pretty long.

[Jordan]

It's sad. It felt like a sad thing. It felt like a. It felt like a love letter to Owen. A, like, I need someone to take this away from me.

[Neo]

Well, this is the, like, intersection of two influences. One is that, yeah, I love you, Owen. I miss you so much.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Neo]

And the other is trying to get in on this racist meme about Hakeem Jeffries and sombreros.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure, sure, sure.

[Neo]

And that's sad in and of itself, because I don't really think that this has staying power.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

I think that this is Alex chasing a car that's already gone.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And so the two things both look really sad and desperate, and they combine into something worse than both parts.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And so Alex, you know, he gets done. No one can throw a hat like he can onto Owen's head, but he just kind of comes off like a prop comic, sitting there with a sombrero.

[Andy]

It's kind of hard to do the show, though, in a serious way with this on. We got some really hardcore serious stuff coming up at the bottom of the hour. And, listeners, I know you're tuned in to hear hardcore information. I apologize, guys, but I want to know who had the idea to bring this in here. It's hard to do a serious broadcast for the song, but I do like it. God, that looks good, man. Got a lot of style. And you know the women can't resist you when you're wearing this. Right? I think this is a panty dropper for guys. What does everybody think? Should I wear this to church this week? I mean, not the center of attention or anything already.

[Jordan]

Stop hitting the horse.

[Andy]

Wear this in the church.

[Jordan]

Stop it. It's dead.

[Andy]

Pastor hosted the church with this on all Right. I'm gonna stop. This is out of control. I gotta get serious now. And. And I mean, I mean seriously serious because there's a. There's a lot of serious stuff to hit here. We can have Frisbee golf with sombreros now. We just invented a new sport now, did we? But back to Hakeem Jeffries. He is really mad. People are putting sombreros on him.

[Neo]

So mad. Are you trying to. At church? Is that what Alex is saying? He's saying this is a panty dropper. Should I wear it to church?

[Jordan]

I believe that is what he is saying.

[Neo]

You're trying to the church? I. Yeah, man. I don't lose anything wrong with that. But he.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I mean, that's. Well, I mean, his dad doesn't have to pay for the abortions anymore, so he's probably fine with it.

[Neo]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Now that it's on his own dime.

[Neo]

I found this display.

[DZX Clark]

Dull.

[Neo]

Desperate.

[DZX Clark]

Yep.

[Neo]

Coming off like somebody who doesn't really have a lot of ideas but is like, wouldn't it be funny if I did this? Wouldn't it be funny if I wouldn't be funny if I wore this to church to try to fuck?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Can you imagine what a preacher would be like if they were wearing a sombrero?

[Jordan]

It's.

[Neo]

It's just bad riffing.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I feel like I've spent enough time in stand up where I've seen enough people who have this like, aren't I funny? Kind of attitude of like, aren't I funny? See, look at me wearing a hat. Aren't I funny? But aren't I? No.

[Neo]

No, you're not. And I think that Alex doesn't realize that like, whatever this is, is probably about what he can do.

[Jordan]

Yeah. This is tops.

[Neo]

And that's not good.

[Jordan]

No.

[Neo]

He's not going to survive in the open market. And him being like used by people like Tucker and. And like Rogan give him an inflated sense of like, what he has to offer.

[DZX Clark]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, what he has to offer is the past and a made up one that we can use. You know, like everything Alex has to offer exists without Alex and is better without Alex. Which is probably tough if it's what you have to offer.

[Neo]

Yeah. He's a vestigial organ for himself.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And it's just going to be diminishing returns. I think as far as he. Because he doesn't have anything. He doesn't have a next gear that he can kick it in. And I think that that's kind of interesting in a way. But it's also very sad.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Like, this display is. Is quite sad, if only for, like, how. How much. It's clearly at least half about Owen.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Neo]

The fact that Harrison steps in and is the one who's trying to throw the hat.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So cute.

[Neo]

You can't fill those shoes, man.

[Jordan]

I know. It's a very literal metaphor. It's almost fucking set up. It is wild.

[Neo]

Yeah. So Trump, you know, he said that free speech. He doesn't care about it.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Alex Shoe.

[Jordan]

I think he cares insofar as when you try and remove something, you do technically care about it.

[Neo]

Right. He doesn't care about it in the way that Alex needs him to.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Neo]

And I think Alex has shit own his lack of concern.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

About this.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's. It is. It is this. It is all this. It all boils down to this. And it's something that we knew and we didn't do anything about because they said it wasn't. When they put the Ten Commandments up in front of a courthouse and the Satan people were like, okay, fine, then put the Satan thing up there. And they went, no, because it's okay for us to do it. It because our God is real, but it's not okay for you to do it because you make us think that our God isn't real. And that's it.

[Neo]

Yeah. And I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't know what to think. I just. I. I feel. I feel in some ways like we're. We're watching a guy bleeding.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

You know?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And I don't mind.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Don't care.

[Harrison Smith]

He's a.

[Jordan]

He's a guy I want to bleed.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

To be clear.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

The blood coming out of him is something that I am stoked about.

[Neo]

There's just a part of, like, I feel like he should be put out of his own misery and not to say anyone should hurt him or kill him or anything like that, but, like, Infowars has to end.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

It's. He's dragging this around with him. This court shit needs to resolve. He even wants it to resolve, Clearly.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

This is. He wants a dunk tank for him to, like, celebrate his last day at the office.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Neo]

Like, it's. He wants to be free of this very badly so he can make more money through the fake businesses.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

As opposed to pretending that Infowars means anything anymore. I just.

[Jordan]

Do you know what this reminds me of? We talked about this. Just. Just a short while ago when we brought up Austin Powers. Right. And I was just thinking about this, like, whenever Dr. Evil explains that he's going to put them in a situation and just assume that they're going to die, and you're like, that's so stupid. But this is kind of like watching one of those.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And you're like, you're right. This is boring. Watching a man get eaten by sharks. It's very boring. It takes too long.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's a very boring thing. I will also just assume that it's going to end without me being.

[Neo]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know.

[Neo]

You know what it makes me think of is the 2016 election.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Neo]

Everyone would have been better off in this country if Hillary had won. Including Alex.

[Jordan]

Especially Alex.

[Neo]

Yes. And he. It didn't go that way. And he's dealing with the consequences of that.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Neo]

Everything would be better in the world if infowars had been destroyed, like, two years ago.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Neo]

Even for Alex. And he knows it. And he's living in the aftermath of him not getting to be the guy who went down with the Alamo.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

And it's so weird. It's so weird.

[Jordan]

It's. It's that. I don't know, it's not narrative closure yet, because it's not. It's not full. But I mean, that. The. The. The impetus, you know, was that image of Alex crying as they. As they showed people or Alex laughing as they showed people crying about Hillary losing. And it's like, it's. Those people are probably way better off than Alex is right now. You know, like, that is where we're at. You fucked up, and that moment that you thought was great was your downfall in.

[Neo]

In. In many ways.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Jordan]

We.

[Neo]

And you're not even being, like, given the majesty of the downfall that you want, you're being left to bake in the sun or whatever. This is where you're throwing hats around.

[The Mysterious Professor]

Yep.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Wishing your buddy would come back.

[Jordan]

Yeah. We made you fine for your. You've worked very hard. We've made you the mayor of an empty town. And you've got little thimble or, you know, thistles rocking by.

[DZX Clark]

Yeah.

[Neo]

Anyway, I think Alex sucks. And he really, really, really should be opposed to what Trump is doing, but comically. Yeah, he's not. So fuck him.

[Jordan]

Fuck him.

[Neo]

We'll be back with another episode. Until then, we have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.

[Neo]

Yep. We'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor and I get free soup. Yeah. Woo. Yeah. Woo.

[Jordan]

And now, here comes the sex robots.

[Andy]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Jordan]

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work, I love you.