Knowledge Fight Episode #1097: November 15, 2025

Release Date: November 28, 2025
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Theme: Dan and Jordan analyze and deconstruct clips from the November 15, 2024 episode of The Alex Jones Show, focusing on Alex’s handling of the Epstein document news cycle, Trump’s spat with Marjorie Taylor Greene, and the InfoWars ecosystem’s awkward relationship to its own political “heroes.”

Overview

This episode centers on Alex Jones’ struggle to spin or deflect sensitive revelations regarding Jeffrey Epstein, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, and Marjorie Taylor Greene within the right-wing media ecosystem. Dan and Jordan take Alex to task for his increasingly transparent evasions, self-pity, and refusal to confront the real implications of his heroes' misdeeds, especially as Trump's campaign enters choppier waters concerning Epstein disclosures. The show is shot through with Knowledge Fight's signature irreverence, detours on holiday food, and inside jokes.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter: Cheesemas and Thanksgiving

• Bright Spots:
  • Dan’s excitement about a cheese advent calendar and crowd-sourcing a jingle for it (01:13–03:18).
  • Jordan’s Thanksgiving with family, preference for basic side dishes (mashed potatoes, corn), and playful suggestion he celebrates "Columbo Day" instead of Columbus Day (03:28–04:28).

2. Epstein Docs, Bannon, and Trump: The Story Alex Can’t Address

• Dan explains that new Epstein–Bannon correspondence reveals Bannon helped Epstein rehab his image in 2018—while Trump was President—which is personally threatening for Alex to address honestly given Jones' ties to the MAGA movement. (10:10–11:39)

  "Alex shouldn't be saying that the stuff that was revealed in the emails that have been released so far aren't that bad..." – Dan (10:10)

• Dan notes Alex’s contradiction: he still inflates "Pizzagate" on non-existent evidence, but downplays much more concrete Bannon–Epstein connections.
• Both hosts agree Bannon receives some reputational heat, but, per Jordan:

  "He's taking some serious heat, but... Bannon is Bannon... everyone’s like, 'you're a bad guy.' And he's like, 'yeah, man... I was a bad guy earlier, too.'" – Jordan (11:50)

3. Tucker Carlson, Mark Levin, and Right-Wing Monologue Beef (Plus, Penis Discourse)

• Alex Jones rants against rivals criticizing Tucker Carlson’s move to more monologue-driven content, bizarrely escalating to a “dick-measuring contest” with Mark Levin. (13:44–16:11)

  "Wow, my dick's bigger than yours, Tucker. Really show us that. Actually, we don't. Look at it." – Alex Jones (15:05)

• Dan and Jordan riff on the uselessness of “dick measuring contests,” commiserating over the desperation reflected in such talk.

4. Alex Attacks Female Podcasters & More Misogyny

• The hosts refuse to play a particularly offensive clip where Alex attacks the hosts of the “I’ve Had It” podcast (who are women and critical of Trump), only summarizing the segment to avoid platforming Alex’s misogyny (17:54–18:52).

  "God damn it... he's talking about a different fucking podcast... because it’s hosted by women." – Jordan (18:17)

5. Self-Pity, “I’m Not Appreciated” & False Martyrdom

• Alex complains that no one appreciates the decades he’s supposedly spent uncovering pedophile rings and government conspiracies, relays a tall tale about being attacked in a parking lot for his “truth-telling.” (19:30–21:27)

  "I got death threated. And then five dudes attacked me in a parking lot and broke my nose…" – Alex Jones (20:24)
  "If any of this shit was real, why doesn't he get beat up in parking lots more?" – Dan (21:48)

6. Trump vs. Marjorie Taylor Greene: A Cover-Up and a Civil War

• MTG pushes for Epstein files’ release, Trump retaliates by deriding her as “Marjorie Taylor Brown” (“because grass turns brown when it rots,” per Dan). (23:31–24:49)
• Alex justifies Trump’s hostility as a result of “bad advice” or misinterpretation, refuses to attribute agency to Trump—a now-familiar excuse for right-wing strongman failures. (25:45)

  "He's a piece of shit bathwater. But MTG is a great lady, good friend of mine..." – Alex Jones (24:49)

• Dan exposes how Alex’s position—excusing, rationalizing, or blaming others for Trump's actions—amounts to support dressed up as criticism.

  "For Alex to admit [Bannon was close to Epstein] would require him to go scorched earth on Bannon—and Alex knows he can’t afford to do that." – Dan (11:39)

7. Alex Caught Off Guard Reading the Primary Source

• Alex cold-reads MTG’s actual texts and Trump’s response—his surprise and discomfort are palpable as Trump’s reaction looks more “guilty” than he’d anticipated (48:34–50:48).

  "He’s kind of realizing on air that this is way worse than he thought..." – Dan (50:53)

• To distract, Alex pivots to riffs about South Park, Lindsey Graham, and “goblins,” desperately avoiding the core issue.

Notable Moment

"If Trump's not hiding something really bad, his actions seem pretty weird. Alex made a mistake by reading this stuff." – Dan (51:02)

8. The Goblin Distraction & South Park References

• Alex doubles down on his “goblin” metaphor for bad political associations, rants about Trump being “in bed” with Lindsey Graham, and digresses to South Park plotlines (Trump, Satan, and the Antichrist).

  "We don't want to catch him kissing a goblin or catch him in bed with a goblin. And in the case of Lindsey Graham, we have caught President Trump politically in bed with a goblin..." – Alex Jones (53:39)

• Dan points out that although this sounds like criticism, it’s empty—Alex’s real point is anger at Graham, not Trump.

9. Alex’s Sales Pitch, the “Real” Store, and Sideline Grift

• Amidst his crises, Alex shills for supplements and commemorative knives, confusing his store’s branding in the process (realalexjones.com vs. alexjonesstore.com), exposing his ongoing bankruptcy dodges (31:32–34:23).

  "It’s all the same shit…has to just be like a margin thing..." – Dan (33:52)

10. Desensitization, Deflection, and Losing the Plot

• The show closes with Dan and Jordan reflecting on how Alex’s repeated patterns—making excuses, refusing to break with Trump, and holding on to the “populist” brand—expose his increasing irrelevance and inability to walk away from the cult of MAGA, even when evidence of wrongdoing is direct and clear.

  "If populism rises and falls with or without Trump, then y'all need to get rid of him." – Dan (71:20)
  "At what point can you literally not do that anymore?…[Alex is] slowly more and more willing to just be like, 'yes, it's obvious—Trump's doing a cover up.' But…" – Jordan (71:58)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Analogizing Political Loyalty to a Cheese Advent Calendar:
  "This is my means of accountability on cheese." – Dan (03:10)
• Bannon’s Just a Bad Guy:
  "Bannon is Bannon… everyone’s like, ‘you're a bad guy.’ And he's like, ‘yeah, man… I was a bad guy earlier, too.'" – Jordan (11:50)
• Alex Flailing, Deflecting with Dick Jokes:
  "Wow, my dick’s bigger than yours, Tucker. Really show us that. Actually, we don't. Look at it." – Alex Jones (15:05)
• Dan’s Assessment of Alex’s Self-Pity:
  "He's just like, mad that people on Twitter don't put respect on his name." – Dan (21:27)
• On Alex’s Failed Critique:
  "This is a genre of criticism that is actually support in disguise. It's deflectionary criticism that is meant to make you forget why you're mad." – Dan (43:09)
• On the Endgame for Alex's Rationalizations:
  "But once you have one thing that you did, it all falls apart from there.” – Jordan (74:24)

Important Timestamps

• Epstein, Bannon, and Trump background: 10:10–12:06
• Dick measuring monologue: 13:44–16:11
• Alex flails reading MTG/Trump texts live: 48:34–50:48
• Alex’s “In bed with a goblin” riff: 53:05–54:25
• Final deflection/‘populism isn’t about Trump’ excuse: 71:20–73:09

Tone & Style

The conversation is sardonic, mocking, digressive, but always sharply focused when it comes to analyzing Jones and right-wing media. Dan plays the straight man/analyst, while Jordan punctuates with incredulous asides and jokes.

Takeaways for New Listeners

• Alex Jones is increasingly boxed in by the reality of Trump-world scandals and forced to deflect, blame others, or launch into conspiracy riffs and sales pitches when he can’t face the implications.
• Dan and Jordan are adept at picking these dodge tactics apart, showing how "criticism" from figures like Jones ultimately serves to reinforce loyalty rather than crack it.
• Even as the facts get starker, the Jones/Trump ecosystem doubled down on distraction, self-victimization, and outright nonsense to avoid real accountability—a pattern Dan and Jordan lampoon as both tragic and pathetic.
• On a lighter note, the show never misses a chance to squeeze in food talk, inside jokes, and wrestling or pop culture analogies, making the political critique go down smoother.

For those who missed it:
The episode is a hilarious, if sobering, clinic on how propagandists rationalize for their own team, even as evidence piles up. Dan and Jordan demonstrate how to “keep your eye on the ball” when analyzing media spin and distraction—and that even if the cheese is good, the grift is not.