#1099: November 17, 2025

Summary

Knowledge Fight, Episode #1099 (December 5, 2025)

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Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jordan dissect the November 17, 2025 broadcast of The Alex Jones Show. The hosts explore Jones’s spiraling, bigoted rants—specifically his sudden fixation on Indian immigrants and explicit anti-Semitic conspiracy theories concerning "Old Beef," Rome, and the globalist cabals. The episode is notable for its escalation in explicitness and incoherence, spotlighting Jones’s contradictory, exclusionary worldview and revealing the rifts forming in the Trump-supporting far right as political realities outpace conspiracy fantasy.

Tone: Dan and Jordan maintain their trademark blend of incredulous humor and serious critique, oscillating between mockery and genuine dismay at the depths Jones reaches.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter and Cheese Advent Calendar

Timestamps: 00:55–07:00

• Cheese Advent Calendar: In a lighter opening, Dan and Jordan share their “bright spots”—Jordan finally discards an old trash can, prompting a running joke about domestic inertia and trash can skepticism (01:12–01:54). Dan’s bright spot is the ongoing Cheese Advent Calendar event, this time featuring a matured Gouda (04:08–05:36).

  • Jordan (01:16): “How do you throw away a trash can? Oh, that’s like an old joke.”
  • Dan (05:36): "It is not a juvenile Gouda... It tastes like a Gouda."

• Underlying Theme: Even in their off-topic banter, themes of inertia, routine, and the absurdity of mundane cycles echo through, mirroring the repetition and stagnation of Jones’s show.

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2. Setting the Scene: Political Climate & Alex’s Headspace

Timestamps: 07:00–11:00

• The episode proper begins with the context of political chaos: Trump’s ongoing “meltdown” with Marjorie Taylor Greene, declining poll numbers, and the recycling of news around Epstein and Trump’s policy flip-flops.

• Alex Jones, at this moment, seems to recognize Trump as primarily responsible for recent infighting, but only because the political stakes are (temporarily) low. Jordan observes:

  • Jordan (11:08): "As long as it's a bend-not-break situation, you can criticize, but we don't break."

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3. Alex Jones’s Tactics: Scapegoating and Surrogate Messaging

Timestamps: 11:00–14:20

• Jones’s comments reveal a playbook of manufacturing grievance and mobilizing his base—begging Trump to “pretend to care” about prosecuting Epstein associates, even if he won’t (13:01–13:43).
  • Dan (13:01): "All Alex needs is for the leader to act like he cares, and then he can do the rest as a media surrogate."
• The hosts highlight the transactional, hollow nature of these supposed crusades: it’s less about truth, more about the optics of action.

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4. Right Wing Infighting: The Tucker-Triangle

Timestamps: 14:30–19:03

• Jones expresses desperation: Trump can feud with many, but he MUST avoid turning on Tucker Carlson or risk catastrophic base fracture.

  • Dan (16:16): “If Trump attacks Tucker, 10-point drop. And we need Trump to succeed. Don’t attack Tucker.”

• Dan and Jordan spotlight the irrational, WWE-like performance—the “kayfabe”—between Trump and right-wing media influencers, which serves as a manufactured drama to keep up engagement and avoid acknowledging real fractures.

  • Jordan (18:22): “Tucker is ‘loved across the board’ is a really interesting statement. If that makes sense to you, you have a different definition of board than I do.”

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5. The Show’s Main Rot: Open Racism Toward Indian Americans

Timestamps: 19:10–32:00

• Pivot to Racism: The episode’s most disturbing content emerges as Alex embarks, unprompted, on an extended and increasingly explicit anti-Indian diatribe:

  • Alex Jones (19:33): “India and business practices are as crooked as a dog’s back leg... 70% of all the H1B visas are from India and just one place in India... it’s like a mafia.”

• Jones perpetuates racist myths about Indian immigrants "gaming" airport wheelchair services and accuses them of being incompatible with “our” culture (20:32–21:46).

• Jordan and Dan mercilessly break down his logic and highlight the lazy bigotry:

  • Dan (21:25): “This just feels like we’ve reached drunk grandpa levels of incoherent bigotry.”

• Alex’s contradictions stack up: immigrants are simultaneously villainized as both “primitive” and dangerously successful.

• Memorable Zingers:

  • Jordan (21:27): “You’re talking about every first generation immigrant in the United States. It’s the same story every time: ‘we’re not coming here because shit’s going great’…”
  • Dan (23:02): “Maybe they have like a broken ankle… Maybe you want to sit down, get on a wheelchair. Mind your business, man.”

• From Anecdote to Accusation: Jones uses anecdotal “restaurant surveillance” to fuel accusations of coordinated economic takeover, linking Indian workers to “tribal” hiring and looping in transphobic smears (29:32).

  • Alex (30:04): "That’s why almost all tech companies are run by [Indians] now, just like the trannies run Spotify…"

• Hosts’ Analysis: Dan and Jordan see this as a shift in Alex’s focus—a new scapegoat rises in his pecking order of blame—likely because of guest Elijah Schaefer’s influence and online discourse trends.

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6. Core Conspiracy: Old Beefs, Rome, and Deep Antisemitism

Timestamps: 56:54–101:16; especially 56:54–77:12 and 92:57–101:16

• Jones leans hard into a newly viral right wing meme: Western civilization is “the new Rome,” targeted for destruction by Jewish world conspiracies in revenge for the destruction of the Second Temple.

• Alex (57:13): "The entire Old Testament is about God saying… I’m going to hold you to a higher standard… and if you don’t, I’m going to put you in this judgment."

• The theory is cribbed from fringe Twitter “researchers” and anti-Semitic influencers (via meme videos from Eric Mutsos). Jones amalgamates threads about Jewish political power, globalist cabals, and biblical grudges into a single, ahistorical yarn.

• The Jewish “plan” (Jones claims) is to use China as its instrument to “destroy” New Rome/America. Dan and Jordan highlight the utter incoherence and laziness—Jones can’t even keep his scapegoats straight:

  • Dan (97:44): “If the movements of these power groups are what’s defined the events in history, then it seems like the Globalists aren’t really that important… [Jones] is conceding every argument he’s ever had with a Nazi who was just begging him to stop saying globalist.”

• Memorable Double-take:

  • Jordan (98:26): “His ultimate point is—you don’t have a choice but to be on this team because they think you’re on the other team regardless… so naturally I do believe races are real because they don’t exist and I’m me.”

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7. Alex’s “Four Power Blocks” Theory

Timestamps: 86:42–89:39

• Alex tries to explain geopolitics as Dune/Board Game: four ethnic “power blocks”—Anglo-Saxons, Chinese, Russians, Jews—make up all of world history’s movers. Indian people and all other non-white, non-Jewish, non-Russian, non-Chinese, non-Anglo-Saxon people are erased from history.

  • Alex (87:07): “There’s the Chin—the Chinese, the Russians, the Anglo-Saxons, and there’s the Jews. There’s four power groups.”

• The hosts mock this oversimplification as yet another example of his total disregard for logic and history, not to mention basic humanity.

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8. Relentless Antisemitism, with Faux “Not All” Disclaimers

Timestamps: 100:05–120:14

• In the episode’s final third, Jones escalates to textbook, explicit antisemitism: “the Jews” are accused of waging a thousands-year vendetta to avenge Rome, running globalist plots, and manipulating world conflicts while playing both victim and puppetmaster.

  • Alex (101:47): “You want reparations for something 2,000 years ago? That’s crazy…”
  • Alex (104:36): “What did Hitler have in common with these Jews obsessed with one thing—Jews? I’m sorry, did you put yourself at the center of things…”

• Jones even acknowledges his own “mask-off” moment: “the gloves are off,” he says, implying he was only using code (i.e., "globalist") in the past (119:37–120:04).

  • Dan (120:06): “That glove was pretending globalist. That was the glove.”

• He finally appends a meaningless caveat: not all Jews, only “the people who follow your death cult” (119:14–119:57). Dan and Jordan shred this half-hearted “disclaimer” as a transparent attempt to maintain plausible deniability.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Racist Segments

• Jones on Indians using wheelchairs:

  • Alex (20:32): “[At airports] now it's majority [Indians]. And people just get out of their car... sit in a chair, you go past all the lines...”
  • Dan (21:25): “This just feels like we’ve reached drunk grandpa levels of incoherent bigotry.”

• Dismissing Immigrant Success:

  • Alex (26:41): “…there’s not black people and white people and Hispanic people in the restaurants eating. It’s Indians because they got the jobs, folks.”

Antisemitism and Global Conspiracies

• Old Beefs as Motivator:

  • Alex (57:13): "The entire Old Testament is about God saying… I’m going to hold you to a higher standard…"

• Four Power Blocks:

  • Alex (87:07): "There’s the Chin, the Chinese. There’s the Russians... Anglo-Saxons... and there’s the Jews... four power groups."

• Mask-off admission:

  • Alex (119:37): “You’ve declared war. I accept the challenge. But only against the people that actually follow your death cult, not Jews in general. All right, I’m out of time…”

Dan and Jordan’s Analysis & Frustration

• Dan (34:48): “I think on some level, Alex realizes he's weak here and that he… has decided to defend Trump's actions no matter what, even though his audience will not accept any kind of compromise on immigration. Because he can't go anywhere on a policy front without directly condemning Trump's positions. He needs to descend into pure racism like this. And it's gross.”

• Jordan (103:51): “…this whole fucking racism of like, ‘No, actually, I respect you…’ and because of that, because you are like me, but not me, I am totally okay with killing you…”

• Dan (101:47): "If Alex means anything he's saying in that clip, then I have zero qualms of saying that he's an explicit anti-Semite. Yeah, this isn't political. This has nothing to do with the state of Israel."

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Important Timestamps

• Trash Can & Cheese Advent Calendar: 00:55–07:00
• Alex Jones begins anti-Indian rant: 19:33
• Alex’s transphobic & “tribal hiring” claims: 29:32
• Old Beefs, Rome, and anti-Semitic lore: 56:54–77:12
• Four Power Blocks Theory: 86:42–89:39
• Unfiltered antisemitism / “gloves off” admission: 100:05–120:14
• Final “not all Jews” disclaimer: 119:14–119:57

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Concluding Thoughts

Dan and Jordan close with exasperation and disgust, noting that Alex Jones has dropped even the thinnest veneer coded language, directly linking “globalist” conspiracy with Jewishness and promoting ugly, dehumanizing myths about Indian and Jewish people. They highlight the breakdown of Jones’s brand: as newer, more overt bigots dominate the far-right ecosystem, Jones is left both chasing their influence and struggling with the limitations of his own legacy.

Jordan nails the problem:
Jordan (121:02): “For people who are so fucking entitled… it is so hard for them to understand that I am giving you a shield from me, not the other way around.”
Dan (121:46): “If you don’t realize that stripping away the political correctness… is, I will now have to punch you.”

The episode ends on a mix of weary resolve and comedic frustration—definitively warning listeners that Jones’s output has reached a new, genuinely dangerous low.

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Summary Table

| Topic | Timestamps | Key Moments/Quotes | |-------------------------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | Trash can/cheese advent calendar | 00:55–07:00 | “How do you throw away a trash can?” | | Jones’s anti-Indian racism | 19:33–32:00 | “It’s like a mafia.” | | “Old Beefs”/Antisemitic conspiracy | 56:54–101:16 | “We are the new Rome... and so we must be destroyed.” | | “Four Power Blocks” theory | 86:42–89:39 | “There’s the Chinese, the Russians, the Anglo-Saxons, the Jews.” | | Mask-off / “gloves off” moments | 119:37–120:04 | “That glove was pretending globalist. That was the glove.” | | Final disclaimers/exit | 119:14–end | “…not Jews in general. Alright, I’m out of time…” |

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Takeaway

This episode is a stark example of how far Alex Jones—and the ecosystem he helped create—have slid into open, explicit bigotry, fracturing even his own base in the process. Dan and Jordan, refusing to “both sides” this, call it with clarity: it's racism and antisemitism, stripped of even the pretense of political context or coded critique, and must be confronted as such.

Transcript

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Dan]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert. Red alert.

Knowledge Fight.

Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge Fight.

[Jordan]

Dan and George.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight.

Need. Need money.

Andy in Kansas. Andy and Andy, stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.

[Dan]

I'm a first time caller.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a huge fan. I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge Fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

We're a couple dudes, like worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Dan]

Dan, Jordan. Dan, Jordan.

[Jordan]

Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy?

[Dan]

You go first.

[Jordan]

My bright spot is I threw away a trash can.

[Dan]

Oh, is this a bit. No, that's someone's bit.

[Jordan]

No, I mean, maybe.

[Dan]

How do you throw away a trash can? Oh, that's like an old joke.

[Jordan]

No, I. Steven Wright. Maybe I have. It's possible.

[Dan]

Anyway.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

Where'd you put it?

[Jordan]

There's a. No. There was a trash can in my room. It was the former kitchen trash can. The. The main trash can, naturally. Right. But it's awful. And so I had moved it into my room with the intent of throwing it away outside. Several years have gone by. So finally a few days ago, I got rid of it. I just grabbed it and got rid of it.

[Alex Jones]

All right.

[Jordan]

You know, how does that feel? Great. It feels great.

[Dan]

Broken free.

[Jordan]

It's wild. It's. You know, how things become geography.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And then you're like, well, I can't. I can't move.

[Dan]

It's like a mountain that's in my house. I can't.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I can't move. Like.

What am I, superior?

[Dan]

My God.

[Jordan]

I can't do it. Oh, yeah, no, that's part of the room.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And then you. But it's not, man. You can just take it and get it out of there.

[Dan]

It's true.

[Jordan]

Now I'm gonna. I'm gonna try and get rid of everything in that room. Really? Does this bring me joy?

[Dan]

You know, the spark? Joy.

[Jordan]

That's what I'm saying. And you know what, Condo? I doubt it will. Yeah, I doubt it will.

[Dan]

I don't know if I should be admitting this, but I'm a little bit of a trash can skeptic.

[Jordan]

Wait, wait, wait. Of you're skeptical of trash cans?

[Dan]

And this is. This is me. This is on me.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

I get that I'm wrong whether or not they work. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

I have a garbage chute.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Out in the hall of my building. And so like I kind of just put things in trash bags and then throw it in the chute.

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah. Naturally.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You live a different lifestyle than us ground dwellers.

[Dan]

Whenever. Whenever I have had trash cans.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I find myself not using them and then just tossing things in a garbage can.

[Jordan]

Interesting.

[Dan]

And I know that part of that is my swing and bachelor lifestyle.

[Jordan]

Naturally.

[Dan]

I think I get that.

[Jordan]

Hey, what are you going to do?

[Dan]

You know, some of that is I'm living only for me here.

[Jordan]

We've all lived on a mattress and nothing else.

[Dan]

I got a bed frame, but I don't care for trash cans.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, I suppose ultimately the trash can is. So when you pick up the bag of trash, especially if it's kitchen trash, you don't get your hands all covered in grimy bullshit.

[Dan]

Sure. No, and I get it. Yeah.

[Jordan]

I think that's about it. I think that's really what it's there for.

[Dan]

Look, I respect it. It works for what? Therefore.

[Jordan]

Yeah. While mine is in the garbage.

[Dan]

Hell yeah.

[Jordan]

Trash can. That trash.

[Dan]

You showed it.

[Jordan]

Hell yeah. What's your bright spot?

[Dan]

So it is December 5th.

[Jordan]

You're right. Spot.

[Dan]

What? Yeah, no, I know. I'm getting to it.

[Jordan]

Oh, okay. Sorry.

[Dan]

It's December 5th when this episode comes out.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

That means it's a day in December, which means it's time to have some cheese.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, you're right.

[Jordan]

It is time for some cheese.

[Dan]

Instance Cheese.

[Alex Jones]

Advent calendar.

[Dan]

Thank you so much, Katie.

[Alex Jones]

That was great. That was.

[Dan]

That is perfect fucking jingle.

[Jordan]

That is the. That is the sting. That is this. We had this conversation before where there were some. We've. We've gotten some long songs.

[Dan]

You warned me about some of the things that you sent over and I just chose one at random of the emails that you sent.

[Jordan]

You nailed it.

[Dan]

That is a state. That is a jingle.

[Alex Jones]

Yep. Perfect.

[Jordan]

Nail it.

[Dan]

Thank you, Katie. So today, the fifth, what we've got is a matured gouda.

[Jordan]

A matured gouda.

[Dan]

Yeah. So this is the part where you. Vampire.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, no, no, Obviously. Now the fun thing that is coming up when you say a matured gouda is I'm watching this show called Freerin Beyond Journey's End, which is an anime, I admit. Little nerdy. But what's interesting about it is, it is the story after the story, you know, like, that's that classic hero's journey. We start, we do the thing, we defeat the big demon king, and we do all that stuff. Then what? Then what? Then what? Right? So you just kind of live a life, and the point of the show ultimately gets back to if an adventure. You know, if you're on an adventure and you think about it, it's really just doing stuff. So every time you're doing stuff, it's an adventure. Right. And so that's the attitude you got to take into it. How does this matured Gouda follow up with that?

[Dan]

It is not a juvenile Gouda. No, I mean, it's fine. It tastes like a Gouda. I don't know. I'm not a.

[Jordan]

This could be an issue that. You're not really a cheese guy.

[Dan]

No, I love cheese.

[Jordan]

No, I know you.

[Dan]

I'm not a sommelier.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. You're not a cheese aficionado.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I am not sure that would help with an Aldi Cheese advent calendar.

[Jordan]

Your grocery store shall not be named calendar.

[Dan]

No, but it's good. I like that.

[Alex Jones]

All right.

[Dan]

It's mature. I also, I think that my experience on my adventure.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I was feeling like your vamping is a little bit desperate.

[Jordan]

I'm making up for last time, man.

[Dan]

You felt scared.

[Jordan]

I was making up for last time because last time I got zoned out and I went into a different world. So this time I was coming up with material.

[Dan]

I think you focused so hard on it that, like, I mean, I think you came with something good, but it was distracting from the cheese for me.

[Jordan]

Backhanded compliment.

[Dan]

It took away from my experience at the Buddha is all I'm saying.

[Jordan]

I wrote the Advent calendar. Play a different jingle. Jordan ruins the cheese song is what we'll call this section.

[Dan]

Someone will send something in for that, I'm sure.

[Jordan]

I'm sure.

[Dan]

No, that was great. Thank you for your contribution. And thank you to the cheese.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much to Katie, who sent in the song.

[Dan]

Yeah, absolutely. So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's not as mature as that cheese.

[Jordan]

Naturally.

[Dan]

It sucks. This episode sucks. Just get like, I'm getting out ahead of this thing.

[Jordan]

It sucks.

[Dan]

Awful.

[Jordan]

It's awful.

[Dan]

So bad.

[Jordan]

Is it boring, or is it really, like, somehow we hate more than the Indians kind of thing? Oh, I don't like hearing that.

[Dan]

I think Alex might hate Indians now.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And, no, it's a New low. Ish. Kind of bad. It's real, real bad. He said some horrible stuff and it's.

Not pleasant.

[Jordan]

Then away we go.

[Dan]

Yeah. So we'll get down to business on seeing how Alex deals with racism. Limbo. But before that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first, Razum Yasm and the gasm chasm. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Alex Jones]

Thank you.

[Dan]

Next. Hey, Matty B. Did your ears perk up? That's right. It's swinging. You're my number one little titty baby. And you will eat the entire vad of self replicating salmon cancer. Goo. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And I'm still amazed that the only reads on this show have been Alex's shitty segments. And now I'm doing my part to keep it that way. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much. To shoot to wee. You're now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone. Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy. Shar bom bom bom bom. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

So we enter back in. We're here on November 17, 2025. All right. And you know the world as it is. We're still in the middle of this. Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene having a meltdown at each other.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

She hasn't retired from Congress yet. Everything's bad. People feel bad.

[Jordan]

Everybody feels bad.

[Dan]

It's ugly and gross. Marjorie Taylor Brown was not a good insult.

[Alex Jones]

I'm.

[Jordan]

I'm going to tell you this right now, Dan.

Blows my mind. But I think this whole Trump thing might have been a bad vote. I think it might have been a bad choice.

[Dan]

This experiment is not going well.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Dan]

It is falling apart.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But at this point, I believe that Alex still has in his mind that this is just like every other thing that has ever happened.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

We're just going to move along and Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to be like, hey, sorry, boss.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody will fall in line.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. All right. There's a lot of recycling of news on the whole Epstein thing. And Trump changing course again, 180, saying, release it all. We're going to get into that and get into his big fight with MTG and why that's important and why that's destructive and why that needs to stop with both of them. But it's Trump that's really been saying the mean stuff, like, you know, Marjorie Trader Greene, he doubled almost last night, and it's just. It's just. It's just not good, folks. And I'm gonna explain why. And the American people don't like it. And this was just like, running Elon out of there was really bad for Doge and for Trump's approval rating, and that was the swamp winning.

[Dan]

It's interesting at this point, he's able to identify that this is mostly Trump's fault.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because there's still, like, low stakes at this point. You know, Marjorie Taylor Greene not having quit yet.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Has, like, a feeling of, hey, you know what? Chalk up a little bit of fake blame on Trump.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure, sure, sure. As long as.

[Dan]

Load off Marjorie.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As long as. As long as it's a bend, not break situation. Sure, we can bend it, we can bend it. You can criticize, but we don't break. Once she resigns, that's breaking.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Or at least there's no reason for them not to treat it like a brain.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Dan]

And so, you know, this is the headspace that Alex is still in. And I think that he thinks that Trump can come up with a way around his negative poll numbers. All right. And it involves scapegoating.

[Jordan]

All right, that sounds.

[Alex Jones]

And all these clips of Trump.

10 years ago.

Doing it.

So why doesn't he do that? Because he's 79, folks, and he's just said, I told you, I moved on. It's not me. If you want to obsess over this, it's a distraction. They're sucking you into it. Move on. Because he knows it's never going to come out on the other guys because they had all the evidence destroyed by Comey and his daughter, which is all true, then you have to say that every time you get asked.

Because this is a big issue.

Not say, because your constituents are upset about this and. And want to see the Clintons and Bill Gates and. And all of them prosecuted for this. You can't then say, no, there's nothing there. You got to get up and order the Justice Department to do it, which you've now done. And then when they don't do the right thing and start indicting these people, then you got to fire them and put some money in at will. That's what we want.

And even if you can't get it done, understand it's a rat's nest. They've had time to cover it all up and talk to the highest level of the doj. We still want the effort. And I understand. Don't spend more than 5% of your time. You got a lot to do.

But the messaging has to be correct.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Alex Jones]

I mean, it knocks Trump down every time he comes out and says, if you're my supporter and you even care about this, you're an idiot and you're not maga. Five, six point drop.

[Dan]

So you're not mishearing that. Alex Jones is telling Trump that obviously the Epstein stuff isn't going to come out, but the media apparatus that supports him can't do their job unless he pretends he's trying. All Alex needs is for the leader to act like he cares, and then he can do the rest as a media surrogate. He can give him a participation trophy.

[Jordan]

It is. It is hard to imagine giving up the game quite so easily. Yeah, I would want to be tortured if I was giving up an entire strategy for the team. I would want to be tortured before I gave it up, as opposed to just being like, hey, guys, this is what we're doing.

[Dan]

Right? And this comes off as, like, sad, begging.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

So in Alex's framework, if Trump pretended to care about prosecuting the people who were friends with Epstein, the end result is going to be the same as what he's doing now. Nothing is going to happen. The evidence has been destroyed by the evil Dem, so prosecutions wouldn't be successful even if it all came out. So it's important to understand that Alex's point isn't about the actual issue being discussed, which is the Epstein stuff. It's really just about Trump being an asshole.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

The version of Trump Alex has conditioned the audience to see as the real one would never act this way about the Epstein stuff. So the real world, Trump needs to start acting like that caricature if he's gonna expect Alex to be able to help him. Yeah, basically, Alex is asking Trump to be more statesmanlike, be presidential Trump, this is his version.

[Jordan]

The conspiracy theorist version of Let them Eat Cake is they're like, we'll never Release Epstein. Like, it's the same difference. If you would just say it nicer and not reveal that this is a class issue where you can shit on our faces whenever you feel like it, then maybe we'd be cooler.

[Dan]

We could spin it.

[Jordan]

Yeah, we could spin it.

[Dan]

God, so sad. So as Trump is attacking Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Alex is saying also, you're attacking your followers. Your points are going down. And he, he knows that there's one thing that Trump could do. The man he can't, he can't afford.

[Jordan]

To do doesn't have it.

[Dan]

Don't turn on Tucker Carlson.

Please, whatever you do. Oh, my God, don't be mean to Tucker.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

And then you got Trump's perfect response.

To the corporate media trying to drive a wedge.

And ask Trump, oh, are you going to disavow Tucker Carlson? He interviewed Nick Fontes. He's like, no, interview wherever you want. I get interviewed on there.

[Dan]

So what?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, that's the answer. MTG's disagreeing me on some things. Say, well, I see what she's saying. You know, I'm, I'm working on it. I got a lot of deals I got to make. You know, I got to get Congress convinced of this stuff, and I can't get the votes for anything I need. But we're doing the best we can, you know, I love MTG instead. You traitor. You nut job. You loony. It's not good.

But Tucker and Trump talk all the time, so thank God he didn't take the bait on this.

Because of the neocons who have almost no supporter. Viewers, super. All of them are a joke.

The billions of dollars pumped into them to force feeding the public totally failed. The Israeli attempt to take over of the MAGA movement in the last eight, nine years did not work. Instead, it's ignited this big obsession with Israel. Which part of it's reasonable. A lot of it's exaggerated. The point is, is that it's been the worst money Netanyahu and Israel have ever spent. It's backfired.

[Jordan]

Wait.

[Alex Jones]

And if Levin and all the rest of them can get Trump to attack Tucker. Oh, my God. If Trump attacks Tucker. 10 point drop. And we need Trump to succeed. Don't attack Tucker. He. I don't. Trump knows this. He's loved across the board. Okay, what board? What board?

[Jordan]

What board?

[Alex Jones]

The liberal media tried for years get you to attack me and you didn't do it wisely. Good.

[Dan]

Don't, please.

[Alex Jones]

For God's sakes. This is very heartening and the type of attitude we need to see from you, Mr. President.

[Dan]

Please don't fight with Tucker.

[Jordan]

Please.

[Alex Jones]

Wow.

[Dan]

So there's two things that I think about that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

One is that, like, I think Alex, what he's recognizing is that Tucker is bigger than Alex's space.

[Jordan]

Right, Right.

[Dan]

If there were actually a reason to fight with Trump, Tucker could do it.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He could branch off on his. I don't think he would ever really need to or want to.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But he could. And Alex realizes the danger of that.

[Jordan]

That's the type of. We don't know who's gonna win, but at the end of it, everybody's gonna be a lot bloodier than they wanna.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Back when I was younger, fuck you money.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Tucker's got fuck you money.

[Jordan]

He really does. Yeah, he really does.

[Dan]

And I think that if he'd known that Marjorie Taylor Greene was going to quit Congress, he would have the same kind of feeling about, like, don't attack Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

She's not playing.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's an issue.

[Dan]

And then the second thing I think is, like, what does it matter if Trump is. Takes the bait and attacks Tucker if the two of them talk all the time?

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

You would presume that that's a play.

[Jordan]

Like, they would know.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

They would know if they were mad at each other during their conversations with each other.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Better than we would know if they were mad at each other through Facebook. Yeah, whatever.

[Dan]

Or if Tucker. Or if Trump is tweeting something about Tucker or whatever. Like, maybe it's just WWE shit. It's just a fake act to get the neocons off their back or whatever.

[Jordan]

Yes. Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Wow.

[Jordan]

Tucker is loved. Across the board is a really interesting statement. And the reason it's interesting is because if it makes sense to you, then you have a different definition of board than I do.

[Dan]

It's spelled B O R E D. Right.

[Jordan]

It is a very different spectrum. If you're saying across the board is like, you have a very small board.

[Dan]

From the left to the right, everybody.

[Jordan]

See, that seems wrong. That seems very wrong to me.

[Dan]

People just like that Tucker is a straight shooter.

[Jordan]

I don't know if that's why people like Tucker, period. No, for the people who do like Tucker, let alone the people who don't.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't think. I think a lot of people really don't like Tucker strongly.

[Jordan]

You could, but whatever.

[Dan]

So on a recent episode, we saw Alex interviewing Elijah Schaefer.

[Alex Jones]

Yes.

[Dan]

And that turned into a very strange attack on Indian Americans.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

And Alex felt very uncomfortable in that setting. Because it did not feel like he knew that Elijah was going to jump down this road. Right now, just a couple days later, Alex seems to be leading the charge.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry.

[Dan]

Against Indians.

[Alex Jones]

And I've got some news on India. Man, I tell you, India is the most populous country in the world. I don't hate Indians.

But India and business practices are as crooked as a dog's back leg.

And you know, 70% of all the.

H1B visas are from India. And just one place in India. And so it's, it's like a, it's not like it's like a mafia.

[Jordan]

So it's not really India that your problem is with or their people.

[Alex Jones]

And they're smart. So they come in, they know all the rules, the regulations, and they milk it all.

[Jordan]

That's just learning.

[Alex Jones]

And I'm not saying all the Indians, but I'm saying, I mean, here's an example. I got videos coming up.

[Jordan]

Oh God.

[Alex Jones]

And I saw this flying back from doing Tucker a month ago. And I've noticed over the years of build up where you see like two or three people in wheelchairs getting on the plane, being pushed in as they go ahead of line, and then in 10, 20, and now getting on off planes, there'd be like lines of 30 people.

In the wheelchairs. And they're like able bodied men and women. And they're, and they're, a lot of them are young Indians. I mean, look at these videos where it's like almost all Indians and, and to them. And their culture has been so poor. But they're also smarts. They look at every system and what's legal.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry?

[Alex Jones]

Well, the chivalry thing is if you're not really.

Handicapped, you don't show up at the airport, get out of your car. You see somebody gets out of their car. All healthy. It's not just Indians doing it, but now it's majority. And people just get out of their car or get out of a taxi or Uber. They just go. And they go, okay. They bring over a person, you sit in a chair, you go past all the lines, you get, you get on the plane first. And it's just like, what is this?

You know, it's like a 500 fine to park in a handicap parking space. Well, what should the fine be if you're not handicapped doing this. And I'm saying that's the mindset and it's not compatible.

[Dan]

Folks, this just, it feels like we've reached drunk grandpa levels of like, incoherent. Yeah, bigotry Yep. You're just sitting at the dinner table and he's yelling about how Indians want to get in wheelchairs at the airport.

[Jordan]

What the fuck are you talking about? What are you talking about?

[Dan]

They're incompatible with our culture because they want to sit in wheelchairs to get on the plane.

[Jordan]

First off, you know you're doing a bad job with your racism. If most of the people who you would be, who you are being racist towards in this conversation would go like, oh, well, you're not talking about me, obviously, because I'm not from wherever it is that you're talking about.

[Dan]

Sure. Right, yeah.

[Jordan]

You're blanket talking about several billion people in the world.

[Dan]

No. Because there aren't 7 billion Indian Americans. He's not talking about people who are in India.

[Jordan]

Right, exactly. That's the point. What are you talking about?

[Dan]

He's talking.

[Jordan]

You're talking about every first generation immigrant in the United States. It's the same story, right? Every time it's, we're not coming here because shit's going great. So I'm trying to make shit go great here.

[Dan]

It's the land of opportunity, blah, blah, blah.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

American dream.

[Jordan]

That's the whole idea.

[Dan]

So I also think that it's really not cool to just judge who does and doesn't deserve a wheelchair. Based on what you think they're.

[Jordan]

Oh, do you mean the color of their skin?

[Dan]

Well, no, you assume that they're able bodied and everything is, is fine. But maybe you're wrong, maybe you don't. Maybe they have like a broken ankle and you see them walking. Yeah. And they appear to be fine, but you know, you want to sit down, get on a wheelchair. What? Do you mind your business, man.

[Jordan]

No, I was, we, my wife and I were listening to the, that show that Gareth does with the Johnson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something or other. And there was a woman who's, who's had, who's got like stage four cancer and she always gets on the plane sooner, but she looks like she's totally fine. Right. And so everybody always gives her stink eyes and it's like, ah, she's had like bones removed.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

But you can't see it. So people are stupid.

[Dan]

Well, like the natural like progression that this goes down is Alex throwing someone out of a wheelchair.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

An airport or something.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

And it's like, you look healthy enough.

[Jordan]

To walk to me.

[Dan]

Yeah. What the fuck is the point?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

How is it possible that you can't just be like, oh, well, that person's in a wheelchair. Good Mm, good. They're getting somewhere in a wheelchair, probably because they need to.

[Dan]

They're Indians exploiting our chivalry.

[Jordan]

What? Why? Just walk.

[Dan]

So I thought that this was a bizarre and drunk grandfatherly kind of racism.

[Jordan]

Tis the season.

[Dan]

And I thought like, oh, cool, we're done. Alex has done his little thing about Indians, right? No.

[Jordan]

Oh no.

[Dan]

Descends much further, sure.

[Alex Jones]

But we project. Oh, it's India. We're devils, We're America. They're perfect. No.

It'S Indian culture and some of their groups to bathe in feces. You want me to show it to you? If I wanted to be mean, I'd show the rituals where they immerse themselves in feces.

[Jordan]

Why? What?

[Alex Jones]

Well, I mean, a lot of people coming out of Mexico and Latin America have never been around a real toilet. It. That's why you go in truck stops and nice places. They have to have in Spanish saying, put your toilet paper. No, there'll be a pile of, of anybody. I guess it's all over the country now, so you've all seen it. There'll be a pile of wadded up toilet paper and feces.

Goes on here, folks. So I'm just telling you, we might want to say, hey, we have American standards and you need to learn them and you need to follow whatever you're going to come here. And we brought so many people in.

That we've got to put the halt to this now and then. Assimilate.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry.

[Alex Jones]

I go to nice restaurants probably once a week or so. I don't go like super fancy, super high end or whatever, but I'll go to the nice restaurants, you know, good food and you can tell the, you know, when the economy has problems. It was pretty dead under Biden. Came back a little, people hope with Trump, but now it's even. Even the ones that are always full aren't so much full now. And I went to a really nice Chinese food restaurant a week and a half ago at about eight at night and it's normally lines out the door.

[Jordan]

And.

[Alex Jones]

It was about 20 full and almost everyone were fancy clothes, nice, you know, Indians almost. And it was, you can always see the controller like an older 70 year old guy. Then he'd have the men with him and they usually weren't even women. It was like business teams. And you could hear him talking. It was all about, you know, Dell and Microsoft and you know, Apple and AI. But I'm sitting there in this restaurant and I'm looking around and I'm like, wow, what's going on the economy. And then I went to an Italian restaurant last week. Oh, God. And half the people in there were Indians. Now, it's not just that half the people are Indians because you go to the mall in Austin where it's like half the people are more Indians now. I mean, it's massive airport, you name it, around the country. But there's not black people and white people and Hispanic people in the restaurants eating. It's Indians because they got the jobs, folks.

[Dan]

It's really shocking to see how much Alex has pivoted into anti Indian stuff since that little brush with Elijah Schaefer.

[Jordan]

Ridiculous.

[Dan]

While I never say that Alex is a fan of any group other than white people, it always seemed to me like Indian Americans were a low priority for him to hate. I guess they have risen up considerably based on this episode. So during the height of the COVID pandemic, there were some human interest stories that went around social media about how some people in India were trying to use traditional medicine to protect themselves from the coronavirus, which included taking a dip in a cow shit bag.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

[Dan]

This wasn't something that all Indian people were doing. And it's based on a traditional belief about the sacredness of the cow, which is a little different picture than what Alex is painting.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Ultimately, if some people in rural areas of India want to try to protect themselves from COVID by using cow shit, I have no idea what harm Alex thinks they're doing.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Half of his revenue comes from sowing distrust about modern medicine and offering alternative solutions. So it seems like he should be totally fine with that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The guy who's responsible for Alex's supplement empire growing to what it is now. Dr. Edward Group did a ton of interviews during the pandemic about how the solution was drinking your own piss. So I don't know where Alex gets off here. You can see in that clip how Alex's racism uses a pincer strategy to try to attack his target from both sides. These Indian Americans are both so primitive and incompatible with the United States society that they don't know how to use toilets and they bathe in shit.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

But also they have all the good jobs and the fancy restaurants Alex goes to are often full of Indian men talking about the economy.

[Jordan]

So crazy.

[Dan]

The goal is to create a two pronged fear that his audience can feel about Indian Americans, with one fear being based on the them being a force of destruction in society and the other fear being based around them being a replacement for white people.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

This entire display is just racism. And it's not even racism that feels on brand. For Alex, this isn't a racism that he's passionate about. It feels like backwash. It feels.

[Jordan]

I mean, gross. This is. This is the economic racism of fucking blowing up black Wall Street. Like, that is. That is the quintessential American racism. You are inherently better than these people. Here's why. You are inherently better than these people and are being placed beneath them. Here's why. And it's like, that is. That's what drives it. That's what keeps unions from working. That's what keeps everything from working. Those two things. If a rich person can convince poor people to fuck themselves like that, it's over.

[Dan]

And I think it's very interesting to see this, this upswing. It's. It's out of place. It's just. It's something.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's like, come on, man.

[Dan]

And it goes on.

[Jordan]

Why?

[Dan]

Yeah, we continue.

[Jordan]

We've got enough plates spinning.

[Dan]

Nope, more plates.

[Alex Jones]

With all these computer plants and chip plants and stuff. And they're all over Austin.

And I've taught people that work in them, you know, like the security guards, white or black or whatever. But you go in there, when the Indians get in, they only hire other Indians.

[Jordan]

What are we doing?

[Alex Jones]

That's why almost all the tech companies are run by and is down. It's like, just like with the trannies run Spotify. Over half of them now are trannies. Big fat, ugly men with wigs on. And they don't let you work there or get a job now if you don't. So It'll soon be 100.

Because they all come from one region in India.

Because even the other regions can't get in on it. No, they got a toe hold 50 years ago, buying up the hotels. Remember, that was the same tribe. You look it all up, there's articles on it. I remember, you know, when I was a kid, we're driving across, across country and I'm like, why are all the little hotels, little motels on my Indians? Well, that's the business and the gas stations. And so this one tribe for the last 70 years came in, invested, brought their people, and they're loyal, their tribe. Not saying they're bad, but you don't get a job at that Best Western or Motel 6 if you're an American, that is Indian.

And that's normal to them. They're. They're. They're tribal.

[Dan]

So Best Western is a subsidiary of BWH Hotels, founded by a guy from Texas and currently run by a board of mostly white dudes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Motel 6 is owned by a parent company called Oyo Rooms, which is a company that is run by an Indian CEO. That company just bought the Motel 6 brand in 2024. So the timeline that Alex's racism is following doesn't quite match up. Um, so it's. This is a shocking display of hate content directed towards trans people for a little bit, but mostly at Indians. And even for Alex, I think this is low.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You may notice that Alex is saying that it isn't even just people from India. It's people from one region who are all one tribe. He doesn't specify what that region or tribe is because. Because it's just something that he skimmed from a Breitbart tweet. Sure. He doesn't even have any details about this. It's all just racist vibes.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

I've been banging the drum about how the Iran bombing and the Epstein files debacle have been critically separating elements of Trump's base, probably permanently. And I'd like to add the immigration issue to that at this point. Each of these issues are things that a segment of Trump's base cares passionately about. From an extremist position. Trump's bombing of Iran is something that the Nazi faction and the base cannot justify. The Epstein shit is something that the satanic panic conspiracists cannot justify and also pisses off the Nazis.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

The idea of continuing H1B visas is something that the white nationalist nativist types cannot justify. Each of these things are examples of Trump taking actions that are entirely out of step with the way that he was sold as a candidate to these extremist factions of the right wing. Along the way, while they were accruing power, it was very easy for the Trump surrogates to appeal to these extremist factions by pretending that they were gonna be all in for their issue. They gave these groups that belief, and these factions can't be blamed for thinking that Trump was gonna be their guy. That's what all the talk about extremists feeling emboldened after the election was. Trump had clearly signaled to these people that he was gonna follow through and do what they wanted if they supported him. Him. And now he's doing things they cannot accept, and it's leading to his base steadily eroding. Each of these examples represents an issue where the populist leanings of the Trump's audience were exploited. And now that he's got all the power, he's showing his allegiance to the elite power structure that his fans thought he stood against.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

This one. The question about things like H1B visas, that's going to be the most difficult one for Alex. Being anti immigrant is a core issue for infowars, and it's pretty hard to imagine anyone listening to this show who isn't pretty extreme in that direction. The base and the audience want Trump to stop all immigration and deport even legal immigrants to the United States, but he's not going to do that. And he's never going to. It's not going to happen. He'll terrorize immigrant communities and he'll capitalize on the racist inclinations of the base. But Trump isn't going to risk crashing all of his friends businesses by chasing out all the skilled immigrant labor that they rely on.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

And that's the problem.

[Jordan]

And the unskilled immigrant labor that they were.

[Dan]

I think he'd be much more willing to terrorize folks that he would consider unskilled. Sure. Labor. But this is the problem for Alex. His audience wants Trump to do that. He wants them. Trump to chase everyone out.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

They want him to prioritize their wants over the wants of his friends. And he's never going to do that.

[Jordan]

It's almost like he's in a different class.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think on some level, Alex realizes he's weak here and that he. He's decided to defend Trump's actions no matter what, even though his audience will not accept any kind of compromise on immigration. Because he can't go anywhere on a policy front without directly condemning Trump's positions. He needs to descend into pure racism like this. And it's gross. I think this is the only option that he has available to him because if he just, you know, like, turned on the lights and got real with himself, he'd have to be like, well, I'm supposed to be against what Trump's doing.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

I'm supposed to be far more extreme than this. I'm moderating in a way that is out of step with who I'm supposed to be.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, at a certain point, you can't pretend to be a populist while you're wearing a crown, you know, like.

[Dan]

And you can't be a populist, propagandist, influencer if you're supporting the crown.

[Jordan]

It is. It is so much. As long as we are all talking shit, we're in accord. Because we're all shit talkers.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

As long as we're all tech and shit. But when it comes to actually doing stuff, none of us want any of us to do anything.

[Dan]

Nope.

[Jordan]

Because we're shit talkers. We just want us to talk shit.

[Dan]

And I think Alex is in a unique position among all these shit talkers in that he's been in this game for 30 years and a lot of it on the fringes. He knows these fucking extreme types.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

He spent a lot of his career either hanging out with them, making apologies for them pretending they're not so severe. Like he knows they're not going to have any interest in compromise. He, he, he knows this is futile.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Their one defining factor is willingness to walk away from the go negotiating table. Even if you're supposedly on the same team.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's what they've got. That's their one power that you don't have.

[Dan]

Yep. And I think, I think we're, you know, going to see that, that fractioning off.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think the people who are those fractioned off groups that I think they're gonna be awful. You're gonna see really, really horrible splinters.

[Jordan]

It's gonna have to be. Yeah.

[Dan]

So anyway, this gets worse. Sure. Alex talks some more about how bad Indian groups are.

[Jordan]

Wow. Like for real? This long?

[Dan]

Oh, it goes on really long.

[Alex Jones]

Why, why is it all from one tiny region? Because they got the toehold. They're making the political contributions. They got it. That.

And when they get nothing but end in men working at these things, there's not going to be complaints to corporate. There's not going to be any, any, any political correctness. I mean. And they'll do whatever the corporation needs.

If you know what I mean.

It turns out this particular tribe in India has the highest rate of burning their wives to death for dowry killings.

[Jordan]

Good stuff.

[Alex Jones]

The cliche is that Indians rape people at a higher rate, but is that.

[Jordan]

The cliche who have to pay to.

[Alex Jones]

Be a woman to get a man in a dowry, not the other way around like it is in Europe. And so a way to make money is usually your mother will do it. That's just seen as a customary deal. And when, when the, when they've had the wife a few years, gotten the dowry, whatever, they're ready another one. He'll usually have a real wife like two or three down he wants, and that's already set up. But they want to make some money first. So you get like a coffee can of gasoline. They'll just take them down the stairs or out and you just throw gasoline on them and light them on fire. And there's no prosecution. Totally legal. I mean, it's illegal. But you're allowed to. It's just not. Come on. It's a custom. How liberal and loving. And all the liberal women love their yoga and their Kama Sutra and their Ying Wong chow. I mean, fine, I think a lot of interesting stuff out of India.

[Jordan]

All right, let's architecture. Let's do it. Just stop.

[Alex Jones]

And population wise, throw the gloves. I'm just saying, I don't have to sit here and bow down to it.

And I said, let's see what Cash Patel does. It's not that he's Indian, that I don't like him.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

It's.

[Dan]

It's almost not. It's almost disrespectful to not throw a swing at him.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

He's trying to get you to fight.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. Fine.

[Dan]

This is just to be.

[Jordan]

You know what? If that's what you want, fine. Yeah, let's just stop talking.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Let's stop using words to do what you need my fist to do, which is beat the shit out of you.

[Dan]

So bride burning is a thing that's happened in India, and it's not as widespread a thing as Alex is claiming, but it is still a thing that, you know, is a remnant. That happens, but it's also a crime. People do get convicted. Not every case of spousal murder that goes to trial results in conviction there. But the same can be said of the US justice system. I mean, there's imperfections.

[Jordan]

Anybody, Anybody, anybody who looks at any part of this world from any other part of this world will go, oh, they're abusing women. Because every part of this world is always abusing women in some form or fashion. So there's no. There's no win or lose. No.

[Dan]

And I think that that prism is a much more useful way to look at this than be like, these fucking people are all.

[Jordan]

Dudes are trash.

[Dan]

Yeah, you know what?

[Jordan]

Let's do that. I'll join your team. If you just go with dudes are trash. But then you have to admit you're trash to.

[Dan]

Yeah, I don't think you're gonna attract someone like Alex over to your side with dudes are trash. But also, you're not gonna get him over to your side with a more nuanced.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Hey, there's a trend towards the exploitation and commodification of women in the world, and maybe we're trying to grow through that.

[Jordan]

Let me tell you something. I don't want trash on my side. How about that? How about that? I don't need Alex. Yeah, he's Trash.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Get away from me.

[Dan]

Knuckle up, buddy. Yeah. Let's go.

[Jordan]

Come on. If you're not gonna talk about us, at least let me beat the shit out of you.

[Dan]

So there's a lot of horrible stereotypes that someone could bring up about rural Americans. And you could use anecdotes and data to pretend that you're making a valid point in pushing those stereotypes, but really all you're doing is trying to defend your own prejudice. I know that Alex understands this as it relates to white rural Americans, and he would never want all white people to be judged by some of the more complicated traditions that linger in those areas and abhorrent crimes that some people commit based on misapplying things that might be part of tradition. Sure. What I'm getting at here is he understands what he's doing.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He knows what he's doing. And this is just weaponization of. Of racist shit.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean.

It is like, what the fuck? What was it? It was the. I think it's like a Rick and Morty episode where he. They do a three layer, getting somebody to believe in hypocrisy or whatever. And it's like, of course, you know what it is. You're the one explaining it about something else. You don't. I don't need you to be like, oh, I'm confused on this racism. You have explained to me what it's like to be treated like this. That's your thing.

[Dan]

Yeah. You have imagined this persecution in every instance of your fucking life.

[Jordan]

And it is. And it's been described in such clear detail as to why it's wrong.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

How do you not turn and look and see?

[Alex Jones]

And.

[Dan]

And I have even been like, as one, I would say probably Alex, one of his biggest critics.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

I have been sympathetic to the stereotypes about Southern people being based in a certain form of prejudice.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

I'm sensitive to that. I understand that. I don't think that's an invalid point.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

So maybe he should grow up a little bit.

[Jordan]

Jesus Christ. I would accept just a little bit. I would accept the tiniest amount of this going away.

[Dan]

Well, unfortunately, you're going to get more.

[Alex Jones]

Me, but when you have 70% of the visas in the world from one region in one country, that's a mafia, folks. And I've watched these people.

Not the ones at the gas station or the. That's the lower cast of this group. They just send the money back to their bosses. It's all run literally by bosses. And then I go to these restaurants And I watch these guys. It's military meetings. They're in suits. Everything else, you know, fancy, you know, twenty thousand dollar watches pulling in and, you know, one hundred thousand dollar Mercedes. And there's those guys sitting like this and this guy's like.

They'Ll go back and forth in English and back into Indian or whatever. And I just see it everywhere. I mean, I can't. I'm just. Anywhere I go, it's like mechanized forces of Indians marching around in charge, taking everything over.

[Jordan]

Mechanized force.

[Alex Jones]

I mean, I know a military takeover when I see one.

[Dan]

Oh, wow. I thought the Hispanic Central South American was an invading army. I guess we got another one. And Hezbollah sleeper cells. We got so many fucking invading armies.

[Jordan]

It's almost like, honestly, there are more invading armies than there are places to invade at this point. Yeah, right.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like, where even would you go?

[Dan]

I don't know. And who would you expect to fight? Right.

[Jordan]

Like, at what point do you have an invading army in like Nebraska where you go, like, we already won?

[Dan]

I would suggest also if there's like this many invading armies active right now.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Then having a bunch of invasions happening at the same time is shockingly stable. Things are good. It is a wide, but everything's not on fire.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. Hmm. You would think that that many armies running rampant would at the very least come into conflict with each other and there would be collateral damage or they'd.

[Dan]

All be working together.

[Jordan]

And the enemy, my enemy is my friend. Yeah, we've already.

[Dan]

So I was listening to this. I'm like, this is going on. This is taking a while, too long. And the only thing I could think is like, man, Elijah's check cleared.

[Jordan]

Like, it cleared the bank.

[Dan]

It must be a situation where, like, Alex is just doing this on his behalf. Or it's a situation where Alex is so fucking lazy that he just got pushed a little bit in that direction. Yeah. And now he's like, fuck it.

[Jordan]

He looked at the bank account go up and he was like, you know what? I do dislike Indians.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know how this makes any sense, but yeah, they're. They're taking over.

[Alex Jones]

And I can go to North Austin, I can go to West Austin, I can go to Central Austin, I can go to downtown Austin. And man, you walk in to the fancy steakhouse and I mean, just a couple years ago, was everybody in there? There's a space bar. But now, now it's India.

Money.

And then you don't think all those guys getting those big paychecks aren't kicking it back up to the bosses who kick it in politically. Just like the Muslims work, they're tribal. You get up to 10% in your town, they take over. Yes. How's that? Because you're all divided. They're 10% together, they rule you. And they'll say, in Dearborn, if you're a Christian, get out of here. I've got dozens of clips today, them all over the news saying we're taking over. You bet your ass we are. You're weak, you're done, and your women belong to us. That's how the rest of the world works. But we've been taught to have no identity, no nothing. And so we're wide open. We're like a body that doesn't have an immune system.

[Dan]

So the key thing to understand is that when Alex says that we're like a body with no immune system, the we he's talking about are white people. And the immune system he thinks we should have is white identity based racism. If Dearborn, Michigan were in fact trying to kick out Christians or ban Christianity, then it would get a very swift and aggressive response from all sides, and that would never fly. The image that Alex wants to present is that we're all too blinded by our multiculturalism and bowing down to worship minorities, that we're unable to see the dangers that are right in front of us. But that's really just racist fantasies. The dangers he sees are exaggerated racist cartoons that he's demanding everyone else take seriously. And we've coddled that shit for far too long. I assure you that if someone was trying to ban Christianity, I would be on Christianity's side, even though I'm not a Christian. That having been said, I will not accept someone saying that Muslims existing somewhere is proof that Christianity is being banned. So this all goes back to a guy in Dearborn named Ted Barham, who went to a city council meeting to complain about a street being honorarily named for a famous journalist from Michigan, Osama Siblani. Ted said, I feel like having that sign up there is almost like naming a street Hezbollah street or Hamas street, to which the mayor called him racist and said that he wasn't welcome in the town and that he would celebrate the that dude decided to move away.

[Jordan]

Yay.

[Dan]

In the aftermath of this interaction, the video of it went around right wing media where it was really played up that that guy was a pastor, and they pretended that that's why he got the reaction from the mayor, as opposed to it being a response to what he Said, nice. It may not have been an appropriate reaction from the mayor, given, you know, you're in office, you're an elected person, maybe, maybe that's a fun reaction from a person, but maybe it doesn't suit the office. Office, I don't know. But the narrative that's being sold by the right wing media is complete bullshit. So Dearborn has become a hotbed for anti Muslim agitators in the recent weeks. Because at this point, I think the racists understand that there's a workable strategy that they can use against cities. If you can cause enough of a problem somewhere and plausibly scapegoat a minority group, there's a decent chance that Trump will send federal forces into that city to keep the peace and terrorize those people. Yep, there are a lot of Muslim and Arab American folks in Dearborn, and that makes folks that hate Muslims mad. So they've made it a target. According to an article in the Guardian, quote, popular conservative influencers like Cam Higby, Jake Lang and members of Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA partook in the 18 November rally at which they shouted racist abuse, unfurled a banner that read Americans Against Islamification and smacked a Koran with a slab of bacon.

[Alex Jones]

Taken.

[Dan]

They're engaging in wholesale incitement, hoping to spark some kind of violent confrontation where they can play the victim. It's a coordinated strategy among the right wing media provocateurs and we've recently seen how effective it can be with Trump, like at his antifa roundtable. To think that these people aren't somewhat aware of a baiting strategy that they can use. And they, they have an unhinged person in charge who's willing to use state force against whoever. You know, it's, it's just, it's fucked up.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, there are like, okay, we've been doing this whole society thing for quite some time, right. And then we've been doing writing for quite some time too. And almost since the very start of it, we've had a very clear blueprint for how to organize a mob, get them to murder people and then get something from it. Like, that's what we've, like, it goes back to the fucking slavery, it goes back to the Crusades, goes back to fucking Zoroaster or whatever it fucking is. Like, this is how you do it. How do we not as a species have, how have we not all gone like, oh, yeah, this is what they're doing. We've been doing this for too long.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, it's Been so long. It's exhausting.

[Jordan]

It's been so long.

[Dan]

And the thing that I think sucks so much is, like, you know, something like slapping a Quran with a bake taken.

[Jordan]

It's hilarious. Objectively, in the right context.

[Dan]

No, I don't think it's hilarious. But it's like, that's free speech.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

Yes. You know, like, I don't think the state should stop you from doing that.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But also, as people, you can understand that it's meant just to insult somebody.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's meant just to offend and try and provoke a reaction of somebody. So if you were a Muslim who was there, I could not really fault you for punching this person.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

But if you punch that person, that is kind of giving them what they want.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And helps them further a narrative that the Muslims in this town are out of control.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

It's. It's all just this awful rage trap.

[Jordan]

Yeah. No, I mean, and also, if. If God can't handle a little bacon on his book, you're in trouble. You don't have a good God. You got to deal with that.

[Dan]

Leaving that aside, I'm talking more about the impulse to do it.

[Jordan]

I know.

[Dan]

And that's meant to piss someone off.

[Jordan]

It is. It is.

[Dan]

Is hell.

[Jordan]

It's meant to start childish fights.

[Dan]

Anyway, I think a lot of this has to. I think this was spurred on a lot by Alex seeing a meme of Indian guy in a wheelchair at an airport.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

So he plays that video and then he complains over it.

[Alex Jones]

And to them they're like, wait, you get a free porter? You get pushed around with all your stuff and don't have to walk. That's from a cast system, too. A lot of these folks are from the lower cast. So for them, because, you know, other places.

To be pushed around in all this, this is like royal treatment.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Alex Jones]

And there's no one there to tell.

[Dan]

Them.

[Alex Jones]

You poop in the toilet, not on the floor. And you don't want to tell them because that's racist. Maybe we should all do, like, people from Latin American farms that don't know what toilets are. Maybe to be more hospitable, we should start just shitting all over the floor, too. I'm sure. Just walk into. Just. Just walk into McDonald's, walk up, just start dumping right in front of the cash register. And, oh, you'd be arrested, though, because you know better.

These open borders are a suicide pact.

[Dan]

Alex is working himself up into a frenzy where he's complaining that white. The white man can't shit in public anymore. You the white white. You white guy. You know better. So you're gonna get in trouble if you go down to the store and shit.

[Jordan]

This is like a child. This is like a child. This is what a child would say.

[Dan]

About another child getting candy or getting away with something.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, like I got in trouble, but he got away. It's. It's fucking idiot brained and just racist. It's. It's shocking.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened, man. But whining is top of the list. And things people do way up there.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

This is 2025 and the wine is coming.

[Dan]

Yeah. And it's not matured wine, like aged well.

[Jordan]

It is straight off a foot and a grape. It's disgusting.

[Dan]

So J.D. vance has come out with an idea.

[Jordan]

He's floating around that it's great.

[Dan]

It has to do with only Americans and citizens being able to own land.

[Alex Jones]

Great. What J.D. vance is like. You should have to be a citizen to own a house or land. Yeah. They got that rule in Mexico in places. They got that rule in India. But he knows they're pushing these open visas and he knows that's not the case. So it sounds good. Great. Let's actually see it.

Oh, it's that they have that rule in India. They have that rule in Mexico and everywhere else. But we can't because we've got to give everything up. We've got.

Because we're white devils, folks.

Oh my God. We're gonna go to break. Remember, I need your support. I'm not funded by the globalists. I'm funded by you. I will tell the truth.

[Dan]

So Alex let it slip a little bit there. I know he likes to pretend that all of his grievances and his anger is about how mistreated the American people or people who are part of the west are. But it's just painfully obvious that he means white people.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

J.D. vance's idea about citizens being able to own land and houses in the United States. It's an interesting suggestion and definitely something that would require large scale expropriation to put into place. The government would have to take so much shit from people.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Seems like the kind of thing that Alex of the past be super against the government doing. But I guess it's fine.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Also you could go buy a house in another country if you want.

[Jordan]

I mean, also the idea that this government would take the billions upon billions of dollars of rich people from Not America stuff. Ridiculous.

[Dan]

Well, this, this was mostly about like, like taking assets from China. Like Chinese Americans and businesses and stuff.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But I even don't think that that would work.

[Jordan]

I mean ultimately if, if anything like this was applied by these people, it would be useful only insofar as they would pick out who they didn't like, who had like five things and then kick them out of the country and steal their shit.

[Dan]

It would be large scale acid forfeiture.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It wouldn't be like, oh, well, the fucking CEO of Google now doesn't have a place to live. That's not how that's going to go.

[Dan]

And anything that would even be approaching done for the public good. Let's say like seizing assets of billionaires.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And shit. Like, let's say the left were to try and do something like that. Alex would call for everyone to get their guns.

[Jordan]

It would be. They would hire a fake like Steven Donziger just like won a court case against Chevron and they kept him in his house for five years or whatever it is, you know, like if you actually did damage, rich people would fucking murder you.

[Dan]

At least try.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So like it's just I. He just needs to get right with God ironically.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like he's just. This makes no sense.

[Jordan]

Somebody needs to slap his bible with some bacon.

[Dan]

Yeah. Or just give him a little chin check.

[Jordan]

I mean give him a little I. Yeah, man. I don't know. People. People are out of control.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

People are wild.

[Dan]

You know what? I think I remember back when I was a kid.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

At school, people would like, ugh. They'd like get in your face.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There'd be a lot of monkey behavior flex on you. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Like I'm test you.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

I'm going to see what your reaction to intimidation. Yeah. I think Alex needs to get that more too, for flinching.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

You know, people need to like just maybe not punch him, you know, I'm not saying be violent, but act like you're about to so he realizes that that's something that can happen. Happen. Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean there is something to be said about the way that a predator prey relationship has been kind of created out of people being deferential, just of like politeness, you know. And it's like you can't break a predator prey relationship unless the prey stops being prey. And that's hard to do because that requires a lot of people having a.

[Dan]

Lot of conflicts or it can involve, you know, natural selection evolving.

[Jordan]

Yeah, we could do that.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

All of.

[Jordan]

I'll grow some fucking antlers, man. I'll do it.

[Dan]

Yeah, run a run towards this. This dumb fucking asshole.

[Jordan]

Hell yeah.

[Dan]

So on our last episode. Yeah, we learned about Old Beef.

[Jordan]

Yeah, Old Beef.

[Dan]

And we learned about Alex's feelings about New Rome, America being the new Rome. And Dune.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Unfortunately, this continues on to the next day's episode, naturally, which is where we are here.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And so Alex gets back into his sort of scholarly mode.

[Jordan]

Right. Much like he views Dune as having lasted too long. So will this continue?

[Alex Jones]

Yes.

[Dan]

Okay. And so he gets into how Jewish people are mad had at Rome. Sure. And it continues to this day.

[Jordan]

Why not?

[Alex Jones]

The entire Old Testament is about God saying, I've chosen you as a priest class, as my messengers, and I'm going to hold you to a higher standard. And if you don't do exactly what you're supposed to, I'm going to put you in this judgment.

That's a big. With great power comes great responsibility. Like Spider Man.

[Dan]

Just like Spider Man.

[Jordan]

Just like Spider Man.

[Alex Jones]

And then, then you have to understand that what there's all these different Jewish factions and groups and they fight with each other. So it's not ever fair to say it's one conglomerate, but there's a close majority.

[Jordan]

There we go.

[Alex Jones]

So there is one conglomerate rabbinical groups.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

That Netanyahu definitely is empowered by.

That. All because Titus, the son of the Roman emperor in a four year war.

When the zealots, that's where the term zealot comes from, Jews were trying to kick him out of Jerusalem. And I'm not on the Roman side 2000 years ago. I'm not on the. I'm just. It's a history book to me.

[Jordan]

A white history book.

[Alex Jones]

Romans had a big problem them.

And it took them four years, but they finally conquered Israel, who they'd already been in control of. They were controlling everything around there.

And yeah, because they didn't give up. Titus said, if you don't give up, I'm going to burn your temple to the ground. And not one stone will be on top the other. He didn't even know Jesus since seven years before. Before this generation's gone 75 years generation, sure. Not one stone will be left in that temple because you didn't follow God's commandments. And that's the whole Old Testament. Jesus said, I'm not here to get rid of the Old Testament, but to fulfill it.

[Jordan]

Oh my God.

[Alex Jones]

And so the original books of the Jews, of Abraham is when we don't do what we're told by God we are judged. And the Bible explains and all other nations as well. But I hold you first in responsibility. That's the Torah.

That I've read backwards and forwards.

[Jordan]

Oh my God.

[Alex Jones]

And then I see countless videos and I've seen these for decades. You know, I'll be showing these by text. Mars 20 years ago. And I mean like text. You're too obsessed with Israel. But he was quite a scholar. Pastor, space aeronautics professor.

And he would explain all this.

[Dan]

So we've talked about this a bit in the past, but Tex Mars was an outright anti Semite.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Alex can pretend that he was just a little bit out there, had some problems with Israel, but that's bullshit. His history is clear, it's published. And anyone can see for themselves that this guy who Alex is appealing to in his rambling lecture about Jewish history is a fucking bigot. I'll just read to you here a little bit from his April 2003 newsletter.

[Jordan]

Ooh, that one was a good one.

[Dan]

Quote, the goal of the Jewish Masonic elite is to establish dictatorial illuministic communism and to enslave all of mankind under the thumb of a Jewish master race led by the world Messiah who's to come from Jerusalem. Naturally, he goes on to say, quote, the Jews are beset with an unbridled ambition, a consuming desire to acquire global power and establish once and for all their long delayed Zionist kingdom on planet earth.

[Jordan]

Little overwritten, I admit.

[Dan]

Yeah, the acquire global power. What is it? Consuming desire to acquire. Come on.

[Jordan]

Yeah, come on buddy, edit it up. I read a book the other day that had eight hads in one paragraph.

[Dan]

Too much, Too many. I find myself in exactly that pickle a lot.

[Jordan]

You gotta, you gotta active voice, my man.

[Dan]

It makes sense that Alex doesn't think that his positions are based on stupid anti Semitism and he thinks that he has access to some enlightened truth. But if he refuses to accept what Tex Mars was all about, I don't think he can be trusted to know the difference. Like, I just don't think he's an accurate self critic.

[Jordan]

I mean, didn't you. This is what. But like this coming up brings me back to something he said earlier where he was trying to reframe how fucking anti Semitic everybody is by saying that Israel tried to infiltrate the MAGA movement 10 years ago. And because they failed, now we have a problem with Israel. Yeah, as though this was like a. Oh, it's only been 10 years. He's bringing up Tex fucking Mars.

[Dan]

Yeah. And his whole career has been surrounded by Nazi.

[Jordan]

He's literally Tex Mars just said I hate Jews all the time. That's why he just had. Look, he said more words obviously, but all those words, when you boil them down and remove the rhyming ones, you get I hate Jews.

[Dan]

Yeah, but look, he's a scholar.

[Jordan]

That's fair.

[Dan]

So anyway, that video that Alex did about the new Rome and all that stuff.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

That went viral. Alex is excited about that. So he's gonna keep on down that path.

[Jordan]

That sounds right.

[Alex Jones]

I did a report last night that's gone viral. It's gone viral and I noticed Jewish groups are in there going, yeah, it was actually true. And then the anti people saying, see, we told you, even though most of them didn't even know this, that almost a majority, nobody knows, but it's a large minority, bare minimum. Literally say, Europe is the new Rome and America is the new Rome. And so we must be destroyed. And the communist Chinese will be the instrument of it because they didn't attack the precious second temple Temple.

Meanwhile, you got Christian Zionists giving billions of dollars now in the last 20 years to rebuild the third temple to do the red Heer. I mean, my God, do you know the average Protestant literally worships Jews ahead of Jesus?

[Dan]

Does the average Protestant worship Jewish people? Is that what he's saying?

[Alex Jones]

What?

[Dan]

He's saying they worship the state of Israel. He definitely said Jews there.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

But I think he wants to pretend that this point is like a political thing. And it's not like he has a problem.

[Jordan]

He has a serious problem.

[Dan]

And that is that he grew up in a situation where he thought Tex Mars was a legit guy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because now he's here. This sucks.

[Jordan]

No good?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh my God. What is. Okay, so.

What is it possible for Israel to do? This is my question. Right, right. Okay, I get it. You guys have a lot of problems. What is possible for Israel to do for you to be like, oh, shit, I was wrong. Nothing. There's no way. Well, you know.

[Dan]

Well, Alex. Alex sidesteps that question entirely because his defense is just like, even if they are the most evil people in the world, they have nukes. So nothing's going to change.

[Jordan]

Then fucking shut up.

[Dan]

That sidesteps the entire question of like, is there ever a point at which your criticisms will rise to a point where you exactly be more serious about it?

[Jordan]

You will forever move the goalposts because this is about you. Yeah, this is just you, man.

[Dan]

And it's about shit talking and talking, talking shit, shit talking and talking shit.

[Jordan]

Also, also, I have a point of order.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Isn't Europe the old Rome?

[Dan]

Part of it can't be the new.

[Jordan]

Rome and be you. Rome was in Rome, right?

[Alex Jones]

Right. Yep.

[Jordan]

Your Rome is in Europe. So the old Rome is Europe, right?

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

So you can't have the new Rome be also Rome.

[Dan]

But the new Rome includes other white folks.

[Jordan]

You gotta understand, all white folks are.

[Dan]

From Rome if they love the West, I don't think. And by that I mean they're white. Yeah.

[Jordan]

What a weird made up rule.

[Dan]

It's very simple.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So Alex has, he's gone viral with his report from the night before. Sure. And.

He'S dipping back into this. But he wants you to know, no, he's not just cherry picking quotes and little clips of various people to build his argument that most Jewish people believe that the United States and white people are the new.

[Jordan]

You'd have to be.

[Dan]

He's not, he's not. Okay, he's not. He's cool.

[Alex Jones]

And then meanwhile, you have these powerful Jewish groups saying, yeah, when we're done with America, it's going to fall. And this famous Netanyahu where he got caught on videos that the camera's off, right. He said a Jewish helmet goes, listen, we control America. When we're done with them, you know, whatever.

[Jordan]

What a weird thing to put on camera.

[Alex Jones]

Born here. Like, like, like, you understand, like. And, but, but, but here's the deal. Netanyahu has always famously said, yeah, America is the new Rome, the capital, the fasci and the Senate. That's the bundle of sticks you show the U.S. senate.

U.S. senate FASCI decorations. That's the Roman symbol. So yeah, now Greece, Rome, that's what we're based on with the Magna Carta and British common law. That's what Thomas Jefferson fused together. So we are the new Rome and we are the empire and it's an empire backing Israel and all the rest of this. And Netanyahu then says, recently, yeah, you're the new Rome and we'll beat Rome this time.

And then I got the rabbis and I mean, it's. If I play a few clips and anybody says, oh, these are cherry picked, I could play you 10 hours of rabbis, top ones saying, top rabbits, they're the best in rebellion, destroying the temple Titus in 70 AD and you will be destroyed and nuked and burned to the ground, God's going to curse you.

[Dan]

So Alex is doing far worse than just cherry picking clips or quotes to make his point. The source that he's basing all of this on this New Rome bullshit is a random asshole that he saw on Twitter named Eric Mutsos. Eric posted a video full of other clips that he found on social media that were cherry picked and taken out of context by whoever originally posted them. And Alex is reporting on Eric's stitched together bullshit. It would take so much more effort for Alex to cherry pick quotes to base his show on, which is why he doesn't do it. He just sees some dumb shit on Twitter and decides that the argument that's being made by the totally not anti semitic dude who loves Henry Ford is worth spending multiple days of his show covering. Covering. This is all super pathetic. But what I find most damning about this is that Alex doesn't even have the balls to be his own bigot anymore. When he was freaked out about Muslim women shopping at a pool supply shop, I believe he had that experience. Now he's doing this episode that's just wall to wall, like anti Indian and anti Semitic content. And it's just because he interviewed a guy who hates Indian people and saw an anti Semitic video on Twitter that he thought he could milk. And I don't fully discount the possibility that this is also sponsored content. It's always hard to tell with Alex because most of the things that make his show suspicious on that front can be explained by him being lazy and just needing fresh tweets to power the show 100%. So his sort of cynical motivation, there's multiple ways that it could be expressed. How much of it is garbage?

[Jordan]

How much of it is just doing him a favor? Oh, you made something. You're doing me a solid man. That way I don't have to work today.

[Dan]

Yeah. The difference between. Between that and someone paying him to base shows to promote their content.

[Jordan]

Identical.

[Dan]

Yeah. In effect, it's the same.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So I think that Alex, one of his main priorities is telling Israel, stay out of it. Sure. I'm coming for the globalists.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Stay out of it.

[Jordan]

So in this situation, I assume Israel, because they have stayed out of it so far, is going to continue staying out of it.

[Dan]

Probably not. And I don't think. I don't think Alex is even talking about Israel either.

[Alex Jones]

Well, here's a news flash to the globalists. All the old power structures are going down.

Anything seen as establishment, anything seen as new world orders. Done. And if Israel wants to try to come in with Netanyahu into this big fight, when we were talking about the WEF and the Globalist and the UN and the NGOs, and that's the real power and dismantling it to get our sovereignty back. And you want to swoop in here and call all the political opposition Nazis and make it all about you to grandstand. That's a long term really dumb decision. Not even long term. You can see it right now. Like I said, Napoleon Bonaparte said, never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. Well, I don't see you as an enemy. And that's why the people that only talk about Jews all day and have that one knowledge point are mentally ill. Have a lot of legitimate concerns about.

APAC and, and those things and the bad things that's going on. But you like conjured this mirror twisted form of yourself while you're playing victim all day and accusing people of being Hitler that aren't people. Go, well I like Tucker that if he's Hitler, I'm Hitler too. Tucker doesn't like Hitler, Hitler.

And threatening journalists at Samurai. Any platform you. If I wanted to hurt Israel, I would do what Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin are doing.

But back to what? Back to this. Because I've known this forever.

I mean by the time I was a teenager studying, you know, history and all the rest of it, I knew that a lot of Jews in general are taught at synagogue that the west is bad because it's an extension of the old Rome and Rome crushed Israel in 70 AD with the Roman general Titus and destroyed the second temple.

[Dan]

Alex really seems to only be able to come up with Jewish people, often Americans, whenever he's ranting about Israel.

[Jordan]

Strange how that works.

[Dan]

He really needs to memorize some more Christian Zionist leaders names so he can sprinkle them in sometimes to make this a little bit more defensible. It would be nice all the avant garde Nazis that he likes so much, the ones he's calling Israel obsessed creeps and idiots, they've figured out this very basic trick that somehow still eludes Alex.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is this really something that Alex has known since he's a child? Kind of feels like he's just talking about something he's started thinking about recently because he saw a dipshits video on.

[Jordan]

Twitter and kind of making it up as it goes along?

[Dan]

Yeah, with strong feelings about that. So Alex has always hated groups like the adl and he's spun fanciful conspiracies about them all the time. And I don't remember this being a part of the story. They weren't trying to get right wing radio hosts kicked off stations because they had an old beef with Rome. It was because they were part of a communist conspiracy.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Like this wasn't the window dressing that Alex had.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And here's an interesting thought that I had while I was listening to this. I think I understand why Alex is mad at these new cool anti Semites. Alex grew up in a period of political correctness. The entire time that he's been on the radio and been a public figure, everyone had to speak in code if they were going to be able to pass their garbage off as political commentary. So there were a ton of limitations about how far you could push things. Alex's world was essentially a Nazi stew from early on. And many of his ideological forefathers in the John Birch Society wouldn't have used words like globalist or insiders if they didn't have to.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

And so most of Alex's career has been a constant push and pull of him trying to put out thinly veiled bigot content and him getting yelled at by bigots who think he doesn't go far enough. The very audience your content is meant to serve think that you're a wuss and you don't name the Jews as the real enemy. You're a sellout.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

If you're in Alex's shoes, you could come out and be as racist if you want. If only that pesky standard of political correctness didn't exist. If society didn't immediately want to ruin you and get you kicked off radio stations just for being overtly racist. And then you could say whatever you wanted about anyone.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So, perhaps unsurprisingly, the focus of so much of Alex's show in the mid 2010s involved the destruction of political correctness and the branding of anyone who wanted to be polite as a snowflake.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And it worked. They won that battle.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And now there's no public consequence for being a racist. Unless you want to accept responsibility and try to become a better person.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

Then you can accept some consequences. Sure. But if you don't, who cares?

[Jordan]

Yeah, you'll be fine.

[Dan]

If you yell racist slurs at children and don't apologize, some people will take you on as a saint and they'll fundraise for you. But now Alex is in a tough spot. He's got a 30 year career of doing coded PC Globalist type shit under his belt and he's built up an audience where some of them actually probably think that it's not a code. If he just drops the code now, he risks alienating a possibly large number of his fans and he probably won't gain back the hardcore bigots who already hate him.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

And plus, if he just goes full David Duke, it's gonna be a lot harder to pretend to be friends with Trump, so that's no good. But at the same time, Alex sees all these cool avant garde Nazis like Nick and these really cool explicit racists like Elijah, and he's like a kid who's grounded, watching the other kids play outside on the street and he can't join them. Yeah, he's worked so hard to destroy the political correctness stuff. Stuff which is the only reason they get to play outside. And he doesn't even get to enjoy it himself. He's bound by old rules that don't apply. And in essence, he's a kid who's grounded himself. And as time goes on, his show makes less and less sense because he's really jealous of these other kids and all the fun that they're having. He wants to go play those games too. So after seeing Elijah, he starts bashing Indians a bunch. After watching Eric's Twitter video, he starts ranting about Jews and the New Rome. But what he's doing isn't fun because the role that he's imposed on himself is to be the guy who has to explain why all this super racist stuff isn't actually racist, hoping that his audience will nod along and keep buying pills. The other kids are playing and trolling and having a great time with their hate while Alex is just stuck. Yeah, I really get that feeling from him. And it's a. It's a bummer.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah, I read something. This person was going through generations and decades and. And that type of stuff, and instead of just organizing it by timeline or something, he was going by, okay, well, this person was born between 1957 and 1962 or whatever. So they were this age in blank whatever. So their experience of what life was is completely different from somebody who was born five years later who at that time was hit by this recession or was hit by some other thing. Like the idea of somebody being only 10 years apart and having a completely different view of what the world is supposed to be and what a generation was, is very much there. Right. And this feels like that you are. You came of age at the wrong time for now.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You came of age at the right time for when you came of age. But these people didn't. They weren't around for that. Yeah, that's time.

[Dan]

He came of age at the exact right time to exploit, like the attention economy, Early Twitter, early social media, early Internet. Stuff. Stuff. But unfortunately, because of the massive strides that he was able to make.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He is not equipped to address the current moment.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

The way that these, these other folks are.

[Jordan]

They. They trained their replacements, more or less. They were the. The guinea pigs upon which every. Like, oh, well, this is how thin I can veil it. And this is how thin I can't veil it. Like all of those things were figured out by them. Them finding the barriers.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And now they're gone.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So all they left.

[Dan]

As Alex has worked so hard to move the Overton window, it is now out of reach for him.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

He is no longer near it.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Jordan]

You're not welcome.

[Dan]

No. And I think that there's a resentment that he has. Sure. And I think that it leads to. This content is not making sense.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Dean. There aren't many people who haven't gone obsolete over the years. You know.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

It's. We all age, we all die. That's life.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

But you know, I wouldn't want to hang around like this.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Now being jealous of bigots and Nazis.

[Jordan]

Being jealous of child bigots and Nazis.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. Many of whom will probably try and do a late career pivot. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. They won't even be racist in 10 years.

[Dan]

Yeah. So Alex is covering Eric Matus Matzous and his. His video about the new Rome stuff. And I think he thinks this is. This is journalism.

[Jordan]

This is genius.

[Alex Jones]

Netanyahu, the U. S. Is the new Rome. The last time I found a visited Jerusalem didn't end well. He told Secretary Pompeo 2019 presser representing Roman General Pompeo's conquering Judea in 63 BC. And then there was an uprising three years later that went on for three, four years and that ended with the destruction of the temple. Israel has to win the next war versus Rome, he now says. And that looks like a new clip. I don't know. They just clip it together in one clip. That would be good.

[Dan]

But.

[Alex Jones]

But I have this fella did a good job reporting it. Eric.

Matosis. Let's go ahead and play that club I played last night. They'll get the new clips.

[Dan]

So the second and third video you're about to see is really alarming. I'm going to show you the first in a second because we know how Benjamin Netanyahu likes to project. It's called the Revelation of the Method. Silex doesn't have a time of like, work and clips here. He's just poaching this shit from Eric's video.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And Eric isn't reporting on anything. He's just compiling a ton of out of context shit that he's seen from other dipshits posting on social media. He didn't go and watch Netanyahu's speeches to see where the clips he's using came from, which is the bare minimum you would expect from someone in his position. He's just taking other memes that he's seen and jamming them together in order to rationalize.

[Jordan]

Hey, yeah, that. Okay, all right. The. The board with the red string, right? You know, all of that stuff, you got your pictures pinned up, you get. You tie the string, you get there, you do the whole thing. And you people look crazy. You know, you do the. The it's always sunny face with Charlie, but you can't walk up to somebody else's board and do that. That's bullshit. Right? That's what this is. That's you walking up to somebody else's conspiracy board and being. Being like, I like my red thread over here. Fuck you. Make your own board.

[Dan]

Well, maybe I think that you have sort of accidentally described a lot of what Alex does. The smaller creators.

[Jordan]

Yeah, make your own fucking board. This is bullshit.

[Dan]

So Alex plays a bit of this video, and I have a really sad explanation for it afterwards. Been trying to tell people on my channel that America is the modern day realm. Over 350 military bases that are just spreading ourselves out, out, you know, the deep state. Anyway, watch this for a second.

[Alex Jones]

We had a moving visit today to the Wall. I can't resist repeating this, but I'm good. I said to the secretary that the last time Pompeo visited Jerusalem didn't end that well.

But this is a different time.

Roman Jerusalem clash over values with a great tragedy for the Jewish people. But the new Rome. United States views itself as a new Jerusalem Now.

[Dan]

Do you think it's just coincidence that this random person just came up to him and asked him, what are you reading? Bibi, we want to know what you're reading now. What I'm reading?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

It's a book by. I have a historian by the name of Barry Strauss. It's called the Jews Against Rome.

Jews Against Rome? What made you pick it up? Well, we lost that one. I think we have to win the next one.

[Dan]

Yeah. So that's definitely not a threat, huh? Definitely not. Threatening President Trump and the United States of America has nothing to do, I'm sure, with the Epstein stuff, the satanic.

[Alex Jones]

Pedophiles they're trying to cover for or.

[Dan]

The genocide that they're doing want to keep funding these fake wars. Anyway.

Are you guys having a good day today? I am. I still am.

[Alex Jones]

And Netanyahu 100%.

Is saying we're at war with America.

[Jordan]

Okay, is that I.

[Dan]

Okay, I don't want to sound mean here, but the problem that we're running up against is just that Eric is dumb and he doesn't have reasoning skills that are needed to accomplish basic literacy.

[Jordan]

Yeah, this is bad.

[Dan]

He doesn't know what words and thoughts mean, so he can only try to connect things that sound similar and then act like he's deciphered a great riddle. Right. We talked about it on the last episode. But the first Netanyahu clip he plays is from when Mike Pompeo went over to Israel after Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital in his first term. He's making a joke about Pompeo's name being similar to the Roman general Pompey and expresses a sentiment of connection between the United States and Israel. He refers to the US as the new Rome, but makes a critical distinction that the conflict that existed between Jerusalem and Rome has been replaced by an agreement about values today between the United States and Israel. When he's saying that the US Is a new Rome in that clip, it's just a reflection of a world superpower status. He's not saying that the US Is somehow metaphysically Rome or that Rome's legacy is continued by us. It's just that, yeah, it would be insane. In the second clip, Netanyahu is asked what he was reading, and he responded, jews versus Rome by Barry Strauss. This is a historical retelling of the period between 63 BCE and 136 CE, which is characterized by Jewish uprising against Rome and includes the sacking of Jerusalem. Netanyahu is saying that the Jewish people lost when the second Temple was destroyed and that he would like to make sure that they don't lose next time.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

He's not saying that he's preparing for yet another showdown with America formerly known as Rome. This is stupid. That book was published in August 2025, so that question and answer happened pretty recently. Whereas the clip with pompeo, that's from March 2019. If I'm to understand Eric's argument here, Netanyahu said that he was reading this book book recently as a coded threat against Trump, which is totally obvious if you misunderstand something he said six years earlier. Right. It's all there.

[Jordan]

I mean, that would be a crazy message. Coded or otherwise.

[Dan]

It all makes sense. Netanyahu sucks. And I have no interest in defending it. But Eric's a fucking idiot. He doesn't have the curiosity that it takes to track down where the clips he's seeing on social media come from. And he doesn't have the literacy it requires to spark that curiosity in the first place.

[Alex Jones]

Place.

[Dan]

He's a self satisfied dipshit, reinforced by a media ecosystem of other dipshits wallowing in their own shit. And Alex doesn't seem to have the talent to set himself apart from them. It sucks.

[Jordan]

That's the most damning thing that you've ever said.

[Dan]

Which part?

[Jordan]

He doesn't have the talent to separate himself from that fucker. That's not good.

[Dan]

Keith sees that and he's like, I want a piece.

[Jordan]

You're right. You're totally right.

[Dan]

He said at the end, oh, it's so clear that Netanyahu's at war with America.

[Jordan]

He did.

[Dan]

Said he's a fucking idiot.

[Jordan]

All right, so let me. Okay, Right, so presuming all of this is true, and Netanyahu has been waging a war against the New Rome. Okay, so now Netanyahu is bringing people on. Right. Can't do this by himself.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Sooner or later somebody's like, hey, bb, what the fuck are we doing here? This seems very crazy. Your objectives seem very strange. It's almost like you have a very specific plan in mind. Could you explain it to me? And then he goes, aha. Several thousand years ago, some people I didn't know murdered a bunch of people that really probably are only barely related to us.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

In a region that's kind of like where we are right now. So I'm going to kill America.

[Dan]

So why are we just talking about this now, Alex? Like, why the. Like, this isn't a new plan.

[Jordan]

He's a brand new. He just got elected. Right. Like Netanyahu's been here in the world stage before. No, it's not like he's got a track record of being on the world stage.

[Dan]

Oh. But that clip of the guy asking what Netanyahu is reading did just happen, so that's probably why all. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh, do you mean recency bias of some sort?

[Dan]

Opportunism.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that does sound right.

[Dan]

But it's embarrassing.

[Jordan]

It is embarrassing.

[Dan]

It implies a level of awareness that Alex has had about how much Israel is the enemy of the west or.

[Jordan]

Whatever for so long.

[Dan]

Yeah. That he's just been lying about or something. I don't know.

[Jordan]

Why have you been. Why have you been like, hey, don't be mad at Israel if they're at.

[Dan]

War with us because of the Temple. This is fucked up. And it really undermines his entire career and makes it all a lie if he believes this. Yeah. So I would advise him to not stand by this stuff because it really looks bad. Nope.

[Jordan]

That would be insane.

[Dan]

So look, dude, four power blocks.

[Jordan]

Four power blocks.

[Dan]

That's all that exists in the world, okay? That's all that matters.

[Jordan]

Four power blocks. Right? So you got got. I'm gonna go with. Let's go with the West.

[Dan]

Nope.

[Jordan]

Right. How about the South?

[Dan]

Nope.

[Jordan]

The North?

[Dan]

Nope, Nope. Not cardinal directions. It's ethnicities.

[Jordan]

Oh, God damn it.

[Alex Jones]

Francis Bacon, you know, said, we're the new. We're on the New Atlantis. The Russians call us New Atlantis. The Jews call us that. You don't even know who you are, folks. It's like House Harkin and House Atreides feuding.

There's the Chin, the Chinese. There's the Russians. Oh, my God.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Alex Jones]

The Anglo Saxons.

And there's the Jews. There's four power groups. You're right.

[Jordan]

I shouldn't have assumed myself.

[Alex Jones]

I don't hate the Chinese, the Jews, the Russians, the Anglo Saxons. Let's be adults, like we're watching Dune. Frank Herbert wrote non fiction books explaining it. His masterpiece book is a cosmology of how secret societies and real power groups work.

And you have the. The Emperor, who's the British empire, World War II.

Playing the Harkonnens, the Nazis off against the Russians, who are House Atreides. He wrote articles saying that was kind of his allegory. Just like Lord of the Rings a little bit. Is an allegory of World War I.

[Jordan]

Or is it?

[Alex Jones]

And the different power structures? Or Jrr Tolka, that was in World 2. War War I. But is he as a Christian allegory, like C.S. lewis's books?

So I know all this.

[Dan]

This guy's a fucking reader.

[Jordan]

He knows all of this.

[Dan]

Knows it all.

[Jordan]

He knows it.

[Dan]

So the power blocks in the world are the Anglo Saxons, Chinese, the Jews and the Russians. I feel like I kind of want to dissect this, but who gives a shit, right? Alex wouldn't defend this if you asked him really basic follow up questions.

[Jordan]

How could you defend this?

[Dan]

Like, what about the Muslim?

[Jordan]

Like any number of questions.

[Dan]

You spent half of the show complaining about Indian people. What about them? Are they in this power block?

[Jordan]

Do you mean the 1/5 of the world population? Those people who I was complaining about.

[Dan]

Are they the Chinese to you?

[Jordan]

They're not in the. Oh, weird how that works.

[Dan]

This shit's so dumb. But it's obvious that he's making this up as he goes along.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And once again, we see what happens when a pompous dick lacks basic literacy skills. I mean, it's fucking outstanding.

[Jordan]

That is the. The confidence with which to say it is something that you can't teach people. You can't train people. Like we were watching some show. We were watching Brockmire and Joe Buck is on there. And it's like, Joe Buck has been on TV for almost his whole life. His dad was on tv. Like he's. He's on tv. This man knows how to be on tv. Cannot act for shit. Can't act because acting is hard. Lying and being confident about it is very hard. That is unteachable.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's crazy. Broadcasting and stuff like that. A lot of that has to do with momentum and fluidity, flexibility going along. Singing mute motion is hard.

[Jordan]

Acting is hard.

[Dan]

Acting is a different muscle set.

[Jordan]

It is. It just is.

[Dan]

So while you're complimenting Alex about that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I'm something like complimenting him.

[Dan]

He's saying, can't teach it.

[Jordan]

You can't teach that. That's true. I wouldn't teach it.

[Dan]

But it's also not like it's not always going to work.

[Jordan]

No, it is not.

[Dan]

So he starts talking about the old beefs.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Between these four powers.

[Jordan]

Let's hear some old beefs.

[Dan]

And I really want you to reflect as he's talking, how confident do you think he is? Like, how much does he buy his own bullshit while he's talking?

[Jordan]

Say it.

[Alex Jones]

And then you've got the Chicoms that are pissed at Europe and America because of shipping opium in to control them for 300 years. And they openly say, we're going to do this to you because you do this to us. But the fentanyl, it's all the same crap. Have these rabbis saying, yeah, China's got the same beast with Europe and the US we can't wait till the dragon destroys them. It's literally revelation. But these rabbis can't read it.

You are sent into slavery like everybody else. When you forsake God. God.

Because God's in control, Right?

So when you try to blame people 2000 years in the future.

Wait, I mean, even if you blamed Italian Americans and said you wanted to kill all them, what do they even know about this? Well, this guys, these guys are foaming at the mouth. They're going to kill us.

[Dan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

Now, this is not all Jews. But the point is everybody sees this stuff now on the Internet.

[Jordan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

So people, you know who yet Yahoo represents? He represents these guys who have a big hard on.

Not for Russia, not for China, because the rabbis say, oh, we're not going to get them. They do anything to us. All because a Roman emperor and his son did destroyed your temple. I've got to take poison shots. That's what it's all about. I got fentanyl.

[Dan]

I got a.

[Alex Jones]

My son's penis cut off.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Alex Jones]

I'm not. I mean, you know, I. I get it. We're the new West. We're the new Rome. But I mean, you know, like, you think once we're gone, the choms are going to pat you on the head, be nice to you, because they didn't blow your temple up 2,000 years ago. This is cuckoo town, you.

But I gotta hand it to the Jews. At least they keep a lineage of their people in history.

[Dan]

Holy shit.

[Jordan]

Ah.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So there's a fair amount of, like, you can hear a bit of hesitation in his voice, almost like there's an uncertainty about, like, where. Where he's going. Like, it made me feel like I was back at an open mic or someone lacked confidence in their own material.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And they only realized it once they had to say it.

[Jordan]

It's tough stuff when you say it out loud.

[Dan]

So that was the first thing. I was taken aback by it. By that clip.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And the second thing I want to point out is that the globalists are not one of the power blocks from Alex's old beef chart. And it really feels like he's just saying they're the Jews.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

If he's not saying that, then why is he blaming the Jews for the poison shots? Why is he saying that trans people existing are a part of the revenge for destroying the second Temple? If that stuff. That's all supposed to be globalist plots, not Jewish plots.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

This really doesn't make sense. And the more he talks, the more clear it is that his conception of the world is one that would be generous to call racist. Yeah, Alex isn't saying this directly, but I'm left to assume that he views people who aren't from one of these four power blocks as less than human. Yeah, they don't really count. And they don't get to be considered in terms of old beefs.

[Jordan]

There are zero black people in all of his cosmology.

[Dan]

There's zero people from the Middle East, Africa, South America, and indigenous people from all over just don't count. Their history is unimportant.

[Jordan]

Doesn't matter.

[Dan]

They don't come from one of the big four houses blocks. Yeah. Further, he's blaming the Jews for things that have been very long standing and clear globalist plots. If you were listening to this show in 2010, the poison vaccines were definitely not something that had to do with the second Temple. By adopting this framing, Alex is conceding every argument he's ever had with a Nazi who was just begging him to stop saying globalist. He is giving up. Whether Alex understands what he's saying or not, that's an open question. And I'm sure none of this lore will be important once he gets distracted by some other dipshits video on Twitter. But he should have to own this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This isn't something that you just like, whoops.

[Jordan]

Yep. I resent greatly. Anybody who makes up a stupid plan, gives it to their enemy and then is like, God, I wish I weren't the fucking subject of such a stupid plan. Why should I have to suffer for the sins of these people several thousand years ago? No one's asking to you to. You're making it up in your own brain.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

And it speaks to the level of, like, gymnastics he has to go through in order to satisfy his own persecution.

[Jordan]

I mean, yeah. Just.

[Dan]

It's.

[Jordan]

It's ridiculous how you could possibly wind up making up a completely nonsensical motivation. Like, America is thought of as the new Rome by some folk, so this guy is going to destroy us because of old Rome's problems several thousand years.

[Dan]

Ago, and it's proven by these two clips that I saw on Twitter.

[Jordan]

And you know what? I don't think we should have to suffer for the sins of our father. Like, shut the fuck up.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

What are you talking about?

[Dan]

Knuckle up, buddy.

[Jordan]

What are you fucking talking about?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

God damn.

[Dan]

So, look, there's a war.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And which.

[Jordan]

Which one? There feels like a lot of wars going on right now.

[Dan]

Jews versus Alex.

[Jordan]

That's a big one.

[Alex Jones]

The Jews, at least they keep a lineage of their people in history. Everything basically in the Bible, they've dug up and found it there. And so this guy had that guy, this person, got that person. It's like, okay, I'll get it. Most people in America, they're black or white, don't know who their great great grandparents were. I'll give it to you. You definitely keep a note of things. And I guess in your compendium, I. I guess I'm guilty for what Titus did. Oh, okay. Well, people now know you've declared war.

And I don't think it's going to work out good for you or anybody else in this fight. So can we just stop this schizophrenic insane asylum behavior?

The problem is, with high intelligence comes more mental illness.

God, most of these rabbis are completely inbred. They're putting the stuff out. They're lunatic politics.

And so you're getting the real 35,000 foot view. You're also getting the deep dive here on how this works.

[Dan]

This is toxic shit even for Alex. He's yelling at his audience about how the Jews have declared war on the United States over this old beef regarding Titus, and mysteriously, all the Globalist plots are part of their attempt to get revenge.

[Jordan]

Crazy.

[Dan]

This legitimately does not make sense. Unless you assume that he's thought the Globalists were the Jews all along and he just didn't want to say it because he was afraid of being seen as a bigot. It's the only way this makes any sense. Because there's a trap here that Alex has put himself in. He's laid out a theory of world history that includes four ethnically defined power groups and none of them are the Globalists. If the movements of these power groups are what's defined the events in history, then it seems like the Globalists aren't really that important. And Alex can't say that the Globalists are just some new team on the scene that popped up a couple hundred years ago with Adam Weish hopping the Illuminati or whatever. Their plans trace back to the literal devil.

[Jordan]

The Devil.

[Dan]

This problem is made worse by the fact that Alex has routinely defined the Globalists as a group that's distinct from the Russians and from the Chinese. Russia is an enemy of the globalists and the ChiComs are in an uneasy alliance with them. They're. They're a real relevant power bloc that's distinct from the Russians and the Chinese and seems to want to kill the Anglo Saxons with poison shots. So that kind of leads you to one fucking conclusion.

[Jordan]

There's really only. Only one.

[Dan]

So maybe the Globalists aren't one of these ethnic power blocs, but instead they're a group where members of any block can choose to join. That would get Alex out of an uncomfortable spot, but it would put him in a new one. Because if you can just choose to join a group like the Globalists, who are the villains of all history, then maybe those ethnic power blocks weren't really that important to begin with. But Alex does think that stuff is super important. Yep. The whole point of this old beefs rant is that you, the listener, don't know you're a wrong. But the Jews do. And they want to kill you for sacking the temple.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

Whether you're aware of it or not, they're coming for you because of who you are. These old beefs are relevant. These four teams are relevant.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

He can't. It's. It's insane.

[Jordan]

And the, his, his ultimate point is you don't have a choice but to be on this team because they're a team. If they are a team, then you have to be a team because they think you're on the other team regardless. Right. So his whole thing of like, this is why it doesn't matter if I believe that racism is real or that races are real. What matters is they believe races are real. So naturally I do believe races are real because they don't exist. And I'm Me.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's a cheap trick.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

And it's fucking garbage. And I can't stress enough, like, I, I really don't think there's any way that this makes sense. Unless it's Alex saying, yeah, it's. Jews are globeless.

[Jordan]

It has to be like they're. You've. You can't. The thing about.

[Dan]

Because it's not Israel.

[Jordan]

Tracing something back to the devil, Right. Is that that means that the plan has to be long. And if the plan is really long, there are going to be some changes. There's going to be some twists and turns, but nobody's going to panic every other fucking month because things aren't going well. This plan is in several thousand year stage.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You're not going to be like, oh, shit, shit, it's November. We've got the midterms coming up next year.

[Dan]

But the devil didn't count on Alex, right? Fucking garbage.

[Jordan]

The devil counted on New Rome. Yeah, I guess. I don't know, man.

[Dan]

So I think that.

You know, I think we, we're reaching something of a, of an inflection point for Alex.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

This, this is content. That is be a racist or don't. Yeah. And I don't think he can take it back unless he does.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

So here's just two rabbis. Let's play them back to back. I can play you 10 hours of this.

Meanwhile, the Christian Zions are giving billions to try to get the Third Temple built. Their religion is not Jesus, it's Judaism. And meanwhile the rabbis are like.

Keep sending the money, schmucks, because we're gonna. China's gonna nuke you off the face of the Earth.

Weird rap because you have a debt to owe. Weird because you destroyed the temple. Meanwhile, the whole Old Testament's telling Israel. You don't follow what I say.

Because I've given you the knowledge. Like having I saw talk shows. He's absolutely right. Dark waters. You got an older son, a younger son. One you've instructed, you've told about something. You've got some. The other, the younger one goes, does the wrong thing, he gets in trouble. But if your older son has been told and trained and does it, what happens? He gets in ten times the trouble. The one that doesn't know and nobody's not saying, you're not in the center of history and done amazing things. I actually respect Jews.

[Jordan]

I mean, what are we doing here?

[Alex Jones]

Understand it. That's why I know about it.

[Jordan]

What are we doing?

[Alex Jones]

I know we've got to figure this out. That's God's plan. I don't think if we sent you all to Mars, we'd fix the problems. I'm just reasonably reaching out to you saying, you know, the whole world's watching this stuff and most don't even understand what they're watching. I do. And I'm sorry. I'm not Titus. I didn't do what Titus did. It's like reparations. Most Americans have no ancestor with slaves. Most Americans that are white. Answers. Immigrated here after slavery. How does the new white people owe money for reparations? What? Shoot the black folks, Some of them want reparations for 167 years ago. You want reparations for something 2,000 years ago? That's crazy.

[Dan]

If Alex means anything he's saying in that clip, then I have zero qualms of saying that he's an explicit anti Semite. Yeah, this isn't political. This has nothing to do with the state of Israel. This is arguing that the Jewish people have a 2000 year old war against the white man that continues to this day. And mysteriously involves a bunch of stuff he always used to attribute to the globalists. Right. If Alex believes this shit, then he's an anti Semite who built a career on a lie. If he doesn't believe it, then he's welcome to apologize. There isn't a third option?

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

Also, that story about the disobedient older child. Alex attributes it to a host called Dark Waters. And this is a guy. He's got a YouTube channel that's full of a lot of anti Islam content. But also he frequently makes videos about reptilian shapeshifters.

[Jordan]

Sure. Well, that's Nice.

[Dan]

His channel started out as a place where he would just read scary stories about ghosts and bigfoot. And then a year and a half ago or so, it became more political clickbait.

[Jordan]

Isn't it crazy how that happened? Yeah.

[Dan]

It's funny to me that this is a channel Alex watches and with name check on his show.

[Jordan]

Hmm.

[Dan]

But the truth is, this episode that we're listening to recorded on November 17, and on November 16, Dark Waters posted a video titled Alex Jones was right again. So I'm sure Alex just watched that so he could feel smart and validated, and that's why he knows this guy's not.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God. Yeah, I. I'm mean, I. Okay, so when you use the ears of the world to masturbate, it bums me out. It just really bums me out, you know, because this is fucking disgusting. Not least of which because it's made up, attributed to, like, this. This whole fucking racism of like. No, actually, I respect you. I respect you for the qualities that remind you of me, who I obviously respect. And because of that, because you are like me, but not me. I am totally okay with killing you is the craziest fucking shit that you could possibly think or say. And yet somehow this guy does it and then gives a little at the end of it. Fuck you. Yeah, fuck you.

[Dan]

No, I agree. Fuck him.

[Jordan]

Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

And the entirety of what he's basing all of this on.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is Eric Mat Suz video.

[Jordan]

Somebody else is bored.

[Dan]

Yeah. And then there are two clips of Rabbi that he plays that we'll get into in a little bit. Yeah, but that's the entirety of what he's saying. Jews have declared war on the New Rome over, like, it's fucking stupid.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

It's. It's so far beyond the pale of what, like, should be acceptable.

[Jordan]

I mean, period.

[Dan]

So Alex seems a little bit mad in this next clip. Cause the Jewish people, they didn't like, they rejected Jesus.

[Jordan]

They're gonna keep doing it.

[Alex Jones]

And what did Hitler have in common with these Jews obsessed with one thing? Jews. I'm sorry, did you put yourself at the center of things? I got to start talking about it. But God Almighty, can you focus on something other than yourself all day?

Cuz when you do that, and you say you run everything, though you do run a lot. You say, we're going to censor you. If you complain, we'll censor you more. Or if you say we censor, we'll censor your literal speeches by Jewish leaders. We control the Censorship. And if you say we censor, we'll totally destroy. Destroy you. And you actually don't actually control everything. You got a lot and you want it all. And it's like, do you know what comes with that responsibility? And you think some perfect messiah is going to come and it'll be able. It'll work out. You already got your Messiah and you refused him. And I, in modern parlance have studied all this. Only Christianity builds success and unity for Everybody to come under 110God supposed to do in God's covenant was to produce the Messiah. Messiah to create the unity. But you rejected the Messiah and are now creating disunity.

[Jordan]

Are we back to Dune?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Might as well be.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This sucks. I mean, this isn't. This is just, you know, I. Yeah. I mean, what response do you have other than like, swing?

[Jordan]

I don't even know what. I don't even know where crazy would. Like, where words would suffice. This is too nuts.

[Dan]

Well, and it's just like explicitly anti Semitic. Yeah. It's not even. There's no even, like, ambiguity about it. There's no, there's not some wiggle room where he can be like, I'm just talking about Netanyahu or whatever. There's no, there's no area to be like, this is politically about the state of Israel. There's nothing. It is just Jewish people by definition are heretical and they failed God by denouncing his Messiah. Yep. And.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Then became the globalist, I guess.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You know, it's. I suppose it's not so much that I want things censored as it is. If you are saying the words, I hate Jews, I hate Jews, I hate Jews. But you've got a bunch of different words to say around those. I wish you didn't say those other words.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Just like this is just him saying in many different ways.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I personally hate Jews. And Jews aren't even real. Like, they're not who they are in real life. They're this fictional character that I've made up to justify all the weird fears that I have about my own fucking body and sexuality and shit.

[Dan]

Yeah. But all of those weird fears that he's projecting and all of that stuff onto the quote, unquote, globalists, this imagined group that he has in his head. The ramifications of that are borne out by actual Jewish people.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Dan]

In the world and in America.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Dan]

And it's the same thing with the Indian shit that he's doing at the beginning of the this and all of his pretty consistent dehumanization of Muslims and trans people. And like, it's, it's not okay to just be like, hey, you're projecting your fantasies. Yeah, it's it. That does not get him off the hook.

[Jordan]

It's unreal. Yeah, it's unreal.

[Dan]

And I think one of the reasons, like, you know, maybe taking this a little bit more like, you know, there's a point to it more than a lot of his like everyday I hate fucking Muslims stuff, is that this is not in his lane. No, this is abnormal for him.

[Jordan]

This is. I mean, it's not that racism is abnormal. This racism is abnormal.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think that that's notable.

[Jordan]

It is notable. I'm noting it.

[Dan]

So Alex plays this, the first clip of a rabbi and he seems really mad.

[Alex Jones]

I bet. Even if you want to kill, eat them, let's just say we do deserve it. Hypothetically, which I don't agree with.

You have the most demonic look on your face of pleasure and hatred, talking about killing everybody in America.

At least Hitler knew how to hide it and not smirk about it.

[Jordan]

Is that an at least that guy?

[Alex Jones]

Do Jews think that guy is going to deliver you? Or is love and coming together going to do it?

Does this sound like somebody that serves the Messiah? Or is what Christ wrote sound like the Messiah? Is what Christ said, obviously in all the research, just politically the answer and the only way out. Yes. Is this guy that wants to blow up America. The answer, answer and says, thank God we're flooding Europe with Muslims. They'll destroy the Edom. No, this guy is a deranged lunatic. And you heard Netanyahu agreeing with him that his enemy is America. The new Rome.

Play the clubs in.

[Dan]

A far off land is going to come and go after the Western allies. Westerners are fighting and they're going back and forth and then this far off.

[Alex Jones]

Country comes and fights, falls, falls to them.

[Dan]

They lose. The Western countries lose this war.

[Alex Jones]

It's like they lost in Vietnam. No, very much not like that because it's all their armies, everybody, everybody, their whole sovereignty, their sovereignty is going to be gone.

[Dan]

They will no longer be a superpower.

[Alex Jones]

God's going to come and, and save.

[Dan]

These China, whoever it is.

[Alex Jones]

And wipe out the Christian countries.

[Dan]

Why? Because they don't destroyed the second temple.

[Alex Jones]

Meaning while you were all rooting for.

[Jordan]

The west this whole time, you forgot.

[Alex Jones]

About the fact that they have major debt to pay. And that is they destroyed the base of mignon.

[Dan]

So Alex plays this clip, but there's no source right there's. No watermark where this came from or who to track down to figure out the context of what this guy is saying, which is a big problem because there's cuts in the video. Sure. It's unclear if he's relaying something that he believes to be prophecy or if he's telling other people in the room a belief that other people have which they're then laughing about.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

There's no way to know what the context of this clip is. And even assuming the spin Alex is putting on it is correct, there's no indication that this isn't an incredibly fringe guy. There's no reason to assume that he speaks for a major Jewish position. I have no idea where Alex even found this video. Video? I could only find it posted on a YouTube channel that has mostly titles in Arabic and has under 100 views on this video.

[Jordan]

Wow.

[Dan]

This posted four months ago, and it's pretty much the only place I could find it.

[Jordan]

Weird. Because isn't that the whole Israeli plan to destroy the world that they're talking about or something?

[Dan]

It is strange.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It seems really unlikely that this is where Alex would get it from. But it's edited exactly the same way as the one Alex plays, and it starts at the exact same spot.

[Jordan]

Weird.

[Dan]

So either Alex took it from here or they got it from the same place. But there's no information to go on about who this is or anything.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

I spent way too much time scrolling through Nazi rumble pages, and I have no better idea where this comes from or anything about it. And the fact that I couldn't find any more information, it tells me that this guy's views are very mainstream.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he is a super prestigious rabbi.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

Who's very famous and important.

[Jordan]

I mean. I mean, I don't know if you can find less of a thing. That is very difficult to do. There are so many different people saying so many different things all the time.

[Dan]

And I watched a fair amount of video compilations that Nazis had put together of rabbis saying various things that they didn't like. So I feel like this would have been in one of those compilations, but it wasn't. I don't know where this came from.

[Jordan]

I love the idea of listening to this broadcast. Right. I'm a Jew. I'm out here and I'm going like, this is the first I've heard of a lot of this stuff. But if it's true, very concerning. Right. And then at the end of it, Alex goes, don't you want to be like me, a bastion of love. Right. Like, that's what I'm. That's what I'm going to get away from. All of this is Alex's entire broadcast proves to me the power of love.

[Dan]

Yeah. If you convert to my correct vision of how God is right, then you one day might be able to get rich selling supplements, whining on air about how white people can't shit in public anymore.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's an aspirational vision.

[Jordan]

That is fair. That's a good point.

[Dan]

Fucking piece.

[Jordan]

I hadn't considered that.

[Dan]

Fucking trash.

[Jordan]

We all have to have dreams.

[Dan]

So Alex plays that clip of the rabbi, gets mad, and he has a second clip of Rabbi and Jesus and.

[Jordan]

Hashem is going to cause death. And like, like I told you, it's going to happen in many different ways. My.

[Alex Jones]

My clear advice to any normal American is get. Pack your bags and leave.

[Jordan]

I've been saying that for 10 years already.

[Alex Jones]

Imagine what he says. Off the record. Imagine a horrible, demonic, hateful lunatic. Whether he was a Catholic, a Protestant, a Jewish, a Hindu, whoever he was saying that. I'd say, this is a bad person. I can show you hours of this. You can say, well, that's just fractions. That's just crazy groups. And I would say that, too, decades ago, because I've seen these clips, I've read these things, and people show me this stuff, like Tex Mars. Like, oh, come on, Texas. Not the. He goes, no, that's the majority. Ah, come on.

At least the thinkers.

And then I have Netanyahu, Yahoo. Saying, america's New Roman. All these speeches I just showed you. And then this year, saying, I'm reading a book because we were going to beat Rome this time in Rome's America. What?

[Dan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

What? Why do you want to fight me?

[Dan]

He thinks the Jewish. All the Jewish people want to fight him.

[Jordan]

You made this up. Don't. Then have a conversation with them as though they're.

[Dan]

What? Yeah, it's stupid.

[Jordan]

Oh, I can't believe these Jews want to kill all of us. And it's like, huh, I can't believe that. Why? Like, fucking. They What? God damn it.

[Dan]

I can't believe I was able to uncover this nefarious plot just by watching a stupid guy's video on Twitter.

[Jordan]

You know, it is. It is so much like, I think as a species, as a group of people, if there's no reasonable thing that you can. If you can't find a motive for something, something. If you genuinely are like, I don't know why anyone would do this, there's a really, really good chance.

[Dan]

No One's doing it, that's one thing. And then second, I think people who would be listening to this content. Yeah. And they hear this and like, huh. This doesn't. This feels a bit out of sync with what Alex is usually up to. There's a lot of, a lot of, lot of stuff that's a little off the beaten path. You might want to start to think about, like, what bad stuff does he not want to take responsibility for?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What kind of stuff is going on in the world that the guys that he promotes are unacceptably a part of? Yeah. And I think that tells you all you need to. So that second clip Alex plays is of a guy named Rabbi Alon Anava who's a mystical character who's Ways outside the mainstream of Judaism. Sure. I found the two minute clip this originally comes from. But Alex has to have taken it from somewhere else. Probably taken tick tock because there's music added underneath it that's not in the original.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But more importantly, Alex is so far past the edge here, it's embarrassing to see him. Like, how is he gonna go back to normal after this? Like, how do you do that? Old beefs.

[Jordan]

I guess they got old beefs. No, I guess they don't go away tomorrow. I guess old beefs only exist for old beefs. New beefs. We don't have time. It's like new business. Old beef business. You know, we've got to settle our old business before we can even begin with new business. So this beef clearly is going to go away tomorrow.

[Dan]

Hasn't. Hasn't yet.

[Jordan]

Weird.

[Dan]

In 2000 years.

[Jordan]

It's weird. We got to start some new beef. So I think that's what I'm really hearing is that Drake and Kendrick need to get their shit back on.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Kickstart. Another feud.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, I guess Drake. Not Drake anymore. He doesn't have a shot. We got to get somebody else to fight with. Kendrick.

[Dan]

I would like to propose.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Taylor Swift.

[Jordan]

Taylor Swift, yeah. That would be good stuff, man. I bet Kendrick could really call her a pedophile.

[Dan]

He'd have some. He does. Some thoughts, I'm sure. So I think that this episode, you know, the first half, very disgustingly anti Indian shit.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And then the second half, I think that there's no way to slice it that doesn't end up with a. Like a result of. That is anti Semitic trash.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is not about what you pretend your, Your political.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Geopolitical view is. This is out of sync with the character. You've pretended to be all. All of your career.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And it really. He unfortunately.

Includes instances where Alex is saying that the Jews are doing what the globalist conspiracies were. That really is damning.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think that obviously he would want you to think that he's not talking about Jewish people.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

It's not all Jews.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

And so he does sign off the show with a little bit of. Of, hey, not all Jews, guys.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Great. Thanks. Hey, thanks for catching us up on that one.

[Alex Jones]

And it's not the only issue out there. But because Israel, through Netanyahu, is making its move on us, I'm going to go ahead and take the gloves off. That's just the way it is. Here's Netanyahu.

It's a book by a historian by the name of Barry Strauss called the Jews Against Rome.

[Dan]

Jews Against Rome.

[Alex Jones]

What made you pick it up? Well, we lost that. I think we have to win the next one. You lost the last one. You got to win the next one. And he says in earlier speeches, it's America. Wow, dude. Wow. Okay. You've declared war. I accept the challenge.

But only against the people that actually follow your death cult, not Jews in general. All right, I'm out of time. Please remember today is the last day to get one bottle of Irish Sea Ross Incredible super nutrient compound and get one bottle free. That's how we found this operation, funded by you.

[Dan]

Fucking meaningless. But I do think that Alex is unfortunately giving away a little bit of the game because he's saying the gloves are off.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Now when gloves are on, what does that do? That's padding. That's, you know, bare knuckle fighting is a lot more dangerous because you don't have the gloves on. Sure. You know, you get hit with a real fist. Does more damage.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And so Alex is saying that throughout his career, he's had a glove on.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And now the glove is off. And that glove was pretending globalist. That was the glove.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

If, if anything he's saying on this episode means anything, if this isn't just some kind of weird racist outburst that he's having.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If this reflects anything that he truly believes, then that's the only conclusion you could come to. Yep.

[Jordan]

I was thinking about it as he racisted in the. In the. In the verb. The verb of the word.

Political correctness existed. And I think they believed it existed to. To as like a handcuffs for them. You know, you're keeping me from doing what I want to do. Right. Which I think they allowed all of us to kind of put that framework over it.

[Dan]

Well, because it was partially true.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. But the reality is political correctness existed because the both of us are. Have to live in the same space and I don't want to have to keep fucking fighting.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

Is that what it is? So instead of like, put a fucking brown bag on your liquor and then you can be a racist and I can be and be not a racist and we can just live in the same space. One million percent doing this now. I have to fight you. I have to. That's what I believe in. I believe in eventually I have to fight.

[Dan]

Yeah. You know, 1 million percent. Yeah. That is a thought that I was having while preparing this episode. A bunch that just. Just like the political correctness thing of like, you know, using states rights instead of slurs and stuff like that. Yeah. Obviously it's a masking strategy that racists use to, you know, mainstream their ideas.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

But it was also a way that we didn't have to punch you.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And if you. You don't realize that the stripping away of the political correctness, one of the cascading effects of. Of that is, I will now have to punch you.

[Jordan]

It was your shield.

[Dan]

States rights.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It was your shield. Have to assume that you're being racist.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Oh, the PC shit is gone.

[Jordan]

Dei. No, you said the N word. Now we fight.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Now we fight.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's how it works now.

[Dan]

It's unfortunate the protection or the hedge of protection that political correctness provided is gone.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I mean, fuck you.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It is so hard for people who are just so fucking entitled and so unwilling to face even the slightest challenge to getting whatever the fuck they want to understand that I am giving you a shield from me, not the other way around.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Yep. Yep.

[Dan]

And they have. They have bequeathed that shield. And I think they don't care because there's overwhelming force and weapons. Yep. So anyway, I disgusted.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

I am utterly disgusted by Alex. I think that this episode is a new low. He. He keeps managing somehow.

[Jordan]

Yep. God damn him.

[Dan]

But, you know, you really do wonder, like, is this something he can keep up or is he just going to get distracted?

[Jordan]

I mean, I don't even know if you. I don't know how people keep up this level of racism beyond, like, the. The people that we. That he's cribbing from. Right. Like, their power to do this racism is their banality. Like, how bored that guy sounds by, like, hmm, isn't that weird?

[Dan]

He's having a good day.

[Jordan]

He's fighting with, you know, like that's what they are.

[Dan]

But also their power is that their brands aren't beholden to that political correctness history.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And they can just run around free.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Jordan]

But also they don't have to be entertaining, you know.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like Alex has also got to be. Part of his job is entertainment.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know, and the he's. You can't be entertaining just being that aggressively racist all that time.

[Dan]

I think you can. I mean it takes, it takes some work. But I think that it's also like that guy is primarily making like short TikTok content and stuff. So.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's a little easier than a three hour show.

[Jordan]

Right, right. Right.

[Dan]

Doesn't really require as much thought.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But that's why Alex makes a little.

[Jordan]

Probably.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's good to have some razzmatazz.

[Dan]

Yeah. Which Alex apparently doesn't.

[Jordan]

Not anymore.

[Dan]

Shit sucks.

[Jordan]

Shit sucks.

[Dan]

So we'll see how much worse this can get. But until we do, we have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do. It's knowledge Fight dot com.

[Dan]

Yep. We'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the sex robots.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for for holding.

[Dan]

Hello Alex.

[Jordan]

I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.