#1107: December 5, 2025

Summary

Knowledge Fight Episode #1107: December 5, 2025

Release Date: January 5, 2026
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Main Focus: Dan and Jordan analyze clips from the December 5, 2025 Alex Jones Show, focusing on Jones’ self-perceptions, right-wing media infighting, recent US actions in Venezuela, and the ongoing manufactured narratives around January 6 and the right-wing media ecosystem.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jordan dig into a recent broadcast of The Alex Jones Show, dissecting Jones’ apocalyptic self-mythologizing, the evolving landscape of right-wing media figures (with a focus on Candace Owens and Laura Loomer), the questionable media coverage of Pete Hegseth's "kill them all" command, and the ongoing efforts to rewrite the narrative around the January 6 pipe bomb plot. They also examine the cynical fundraising appeals that characterize this corner of the media landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bright Spots & Small Talk (01:09–05:53)

• Jordan’s bright spot: His wife took care of him while he was sick, even though they never took wedding vows:
  “She didn't. She doesn't have to do shit.” (02:56, Jordan)
• Dan’s bright spot: A German Haribo advent calendar, with disappointment at the lack of German-exclusive candies but surprise at better flavors:
  “I think this is imported Haribos, and I think they taste way better.” (05:15, Dan)

2. Audience Shoutouts & Community (07:24–09:19)

• Recognition of "policy wonks" and new patrons, including in-jokes about the show history and a brief back-and-forth about Dan’s past cinema work.
• Notable for the tongue-in-cheek use of Alex Jones soundbites in introducing supporters.

3. Alex Jones’ Delusions of Grandeur (09:19–13:45)

• Jones frames the present as “the most important time in human history,” placing himself at the center:

  “We are now in the beginning of the end of the first phase of the Great Awakening and the Great Fourth Turning ... this is my report to you, the people of Earth.” (09:32, Alex Jones)

• Dan and Jordan lampoon Jones’ narcissism:
  “He is humanity... everything else is minor. World War I, World War II, all of that shit..” (12:46, Dan)
• Reflection on how Jones’ self-mythologizing even eclipses religious history; he positions himself as more central than Jesus.
  “I wish that he would stop pretending to respect Jesus. I mean, he's more important.” (13:11, Dan)

4. Media Malpractice & Right-Wing Narrative Tricks (14:02–20:53)

• The Pete Hegseth “Kill Them All” incident from military operations is analyzed:
  • Dan argues the real issue is US actions, not whether Hegseth uttered a villainous phrase.
  • Media focus on the quote allows right-wing figures like Jones to shift the debate from substance to theater.
  • Dan: "By putting out this piece of the story, the media has given the right wing a tool they can use to sidestep the meat of the issue and only have to deal with the theatrical part." (18:11)

5. Jones’ Martyrdom Fantasy: The Pawn Sacrifice (21:03–27:22)

• Jones claims to have undertaken a “suicide mission” against shadowy enemies:

  "I volunteered decades ago to take on a suicide mission. Okay, so I'm very, very rich." (21:54, Alex Jones)

• Dan points out the inherent contradiction: Jones wants the martyr myth without the sacrifice.
  • "He's willing to be the put-upon sacrificial lamb, but only up till the point where he should be sacrificed." (25:37, Dan)

6. RFK Jr. & The Hepatitis Vaccine Blunder (27:51–31:56)

• Jones falsely claims RFK Jr.'s administration banned the “hepatitis C vaccine” for kids (doesn’t exist).
• The real story: The panel changed their hepatitis B vaccine recommendation, putting children at risk.
• Dan explains: “RFK's department is severely eroding public health... it’s just talking shit. And you know, people are gonna get hurt.” (30:53)

7. Media Civil War: Candace Owens vs. Laura Loomer (32:13–39:50)

• Jones vents that others (Owens) are getting more attention for being targeted:

  "Everybody's like, well, that's just Alex Jones. He's a big boy. He can take—I am a big boy. The point is, they're trying to get through me to get to you." (33:10, Alex)

• Owens is being sued by France for defamatory claims about Macron; she's dramatizing this as a life-threatening scenario.
• Jordan and Dan break down the ideological fracture in right-wing media:
  • Loomer: aligned with Trump’s establishment machine.
  • Owens: anti-semitic, freewheeling, conspiratorial.
• Dan: "Alex has been so beaten down... he has to be on Loomer's side now. And he resents the part of himself that he sees in Candace. She's living like he did back when he was free..." (37:57)

8. War with Venezuela & Parallels to Past US Imperialism (41:19–44:07)

• Dan draws comparisons to the Iraq war “pretext” period.
• Jordan quips about Trump's aim to "steal a whole country":
  "Trump is going to steal an entire country. That's fucking huge." (42:13, Jordan)
• The media sat on the story of the president’s kidnapping "out of courtesy to the military," which both hosts find deeply disturbing.

9. January 6th Pipe Bomb Narrative & Conspiracist Gymnastics (44:15–68:11)

• Discussion of the newly arrested pipe bomb suspect, with Jones immediately spinning the arrest as a Deep State frame-up:
  • Jones: “What are the chances we are like, oh, I bet it's an autistic or brain damaged person, of course, like who firebombed the Reichstag...” (50:04)
• Dan points out the inconsistencies and the self-serving shifting of narratives:
  “None of it's supposed to be remembered... If his audience demanded any kind of consistency, he'd have no audience. And I think he knows that.” (52:28)
• The hosts highlight the hollow denial of responsibility as Ivan Rakelin scoffs that the bomber “must be an oracle” to act before the election “was stolen”—ignoring their own years of pre-election conspiracy mongering (65:53).

10. Fundraising Extortion & The Grift Continues (53:04–57:20)

• Mike Lindell joins Jones’ show; both paint themselves as martyrs who can only stand between listeners and evil if they’re continually funded:

  “This is all about you folks... if you don’t back us, we can’t do it. We'll never give up. We'll never sell out." (54:10, Alex Jones)

• Dan and Jordan recognize this as religiously-infused extortion:
  • "As long as you keep me between you and the devil, you have a chance at prosperity." (55:07, Dan)
• The grift is explicit, with Jones pushing his MyPillow affiliate link, showing how the whole thing ties back to direct marketing.

11. The Right-Wing Media Ecosystem—From Conspiracy to Economy (57:20–61:17)

• Discussion of the “Conspiracy Commerce Memo” from the Clinton White House—laid out the laundering process that takes fringe conspiracies into mainstream discourse.
• Dan: “The memo more or less explains the entire media ecosystem that Alex and his cohorts exist inside of... Through this model, conspiracy can become an economy. And it has.” (59:43–60:48)

12. Robot Analysis & Stereotyping—Alex’s AI “Source” (61:53–64:36)

• Jones claims AI (Grok?) has examined video and ruled out the pipe bomb suspect.
• Jones makes bizarre, racist claims about being able to identify North Africans “by their walk”:

  “I remember seeing the gate and the walk of the people that robbed the Louvre, and I said, those are North Africans. And they were Algerians.” (62:09, Alex Jones)

• Jordan responds with mockery at the overt racism and pseudoscience.

13. Final Frustrations & Episode Wrap (68:11–70:02)

• Both hosts voice exasperation with the overwhelming dishonesty and “gaslighting” of the narratives:
  • "That is an assault to be gaslit that fucking hard." (67:11, Jordan)
• They express concern and dread for what comes next, as Alex takes up his place as a war apologist and grifter.
• Jordan: "I think we do know one thing though, and that Alex is going to support whatever happens, anything. And that's an interesting way that the future, the past is not really repeating itself. This is a different kind of version of events." (69:17)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Alex Jones:

  • “We are now in the beginning of the end of the first phase of the Great Awakening... this is my report to you, the people of Earth...” (09:32)
  • “I volunteered decades ago to take on a suicide mission. Okay, so I'm very, very rich.” (21:54)
  • “I just expect you guys to deliver after we get wiped out.” (22:32)
  • “Just look today... they just banned the hepatitis C shot for children at birth.” (29:25) [entirely false]
  • “I should be like, they're coming to kill me. There's hits out on me.” (33:10)
  • “If you don't back fighters... having the greatest effect... you are literally funding your enemies.” (57:20)

• Dan:

  • “God's son was crucified so that humanity could be forgiven of our sins... and Alex thinks his radio show is more important.” (11:05)
  • “Alex couldn't be more brazen about this scam.” (54:10)
  • “Through this model, conspiracy can become an economy. And it has.” (60:48)

• Jordan:

  • “Once people have started with putting the words justice and decadence into the same paragraph with each other, that usually means things aren't going to get more fun.” (11:59)
  • “I think it's totally fine for the French government to kidnap Candace Owens.” (40:18)
  • "Trump is going to steal an entire country. That's fucking huge." (42:13)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Bright spots/personal talk: 01:09–05:53
• Patreon shoutouts and show meta: 07:24–09:19
• Alex’s historical self-importance/messianic fantasy: 09:19–13:45
• Media focus on Hegseth and 'kill them all' narrative: 14:02–20:53
• Jones’ martyr complex & ‘suicide mission’: 21:03–27:22
• RFK Jr. and vaccine recommendations: 27:51–31:56
• Owens vs Loomer; right-wing media split: 32:13–39:50
• US-Venezuela war and Iraq parallels: 41:19–44:07
• Pipe bomber spin & narrative gymnastics: 44:15–68:11
• Lindell segment/scam fundraising: 53:04–57:20
• Right-wing media laundering explained: 57:20–61:17
• Alex’s AI analysis/racist gait theory: 61:53–64:36
• Wrap up, frustration & closing banter: 68:11–70:02

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Summary

This episode exemplifies Knowledge Fight’s blend of sharp critique, dark humor, and detailed contextual analysis. Dan and Jordan pull apart the recurring motifs of Alex Jones' broadcasts: egomania disguised as prophecy, endless warfare rhetoric, shifting conspiracy claims, and ever-more desperate fundraising manipulations. They illuminate the way the right-wing alternative media class launder narratives for power and profit, while never missing the chance to highlight when the emperor has no clothes—and when that emperor is selling pillows.

Listeners leave with a clear understanding of how right-wing grift, conspiracy, and myth-making continue to mutate in today's political media environment, with Alex Jones as a prime, if somewhat self-defeating, avatar of the age.

Transcript

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge Fight.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight.

[Dan]

Need.

[Alex Jones]

Need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy and Andy, stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.

[Jordan]

Hello, Alex.

[Dan]

I'm a first time caller.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a huge fan. I love your word. Knowledge Fight. Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

A couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Dan]

Dan Jordan.

[Jordan]

Dan, Jordan, quick question for you. So what's your bright spot today, buddy?

[Dan]

Well, it is January, so as is tradition.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

You go first.

[Jordan]

All right. I guess, I guess my bright spot is that I've been sick. Clearly we're. We're recording this a day late.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I currently have all of my dollars, but we could be short. And so my bright spot is that my wife took care of me, made sure that I was able to do whatever I needed to do while my dogs were taken care of. I was fed.

[Dan]

It was great.

[Jordan]

It was fantastic.

[Dan]

See, when you get married. Yeah, it's this. They have a little clause in there, right? The sickness and health clause.

[Jordan]

Well, you know, we didn't do any vows, so technically she does not have to care for me in sickness or in health. She could just not give a shit.

[Dan]

No vows.

[Jordan]

No vows. Nuh. So we just went to the courthouse and they were like, legally, you guys are married now.

[Dan]

You didn't even say any shit. You didn't even say, like, hey, you're pretty cool.

[Jordan]

I say shit all day, every day.

[Dan]

But I mean, in the ceremony there's something more. More like no binding?

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Jordan]

I had to trick the clerk into letting us just get married that day. She was like, when do you want to schedule for the judge? And I was like, no, no, no, no. We will be leaving here with a marriage certificate. So that was, that was my wedding gift, is navigating the legal system until her mom was declared a humanist celebrant and she married us.

[Dan]

And did not do a reading of any sort?

[Jordan]

No, no, no, no. It turns out you can just lie about that shit. No one's going to follow up. No one's going to follow up. Nobody's gonna be like, oh, are you. Are you really into humanism?

[Dan]

I guess on that level, then it's more admirable that your wife is taking care of you in sickness and health. Because she didn't say she would.

[Jordan]

She didn't. She doesn't have to do shit.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Jordan]

I was. I was even really on her insurance anymore, so I don't know why she's still married to me.

[Dan]

Tip of the cap.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Makes sense. Your wife guy then had a benefit.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. I'm. I'm on the. I'm on the knife's edge. There's no protection for me.

[Dan]

Nice.

[Jordan]

How about your bright spot?

[Dan]

Well, it is January Y and we do not have any stings for this, but if people want to send some in, they are more than welcome.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

To send a sting to knowledge fight. Gmail.com. but I got a new advent calendar. Jordan.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

I got a Haribo advent calendar.

[Jordan]

Luchtat in Dunkholm.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's in German, so I don't know anything about what's going on here.

[Jordan]

All right. Okay.

[Dan]

I love Haribo gummies.

[Jordan]

You do.

[Dan]

And so I figured there'd be a nice selection. You got 24 days of gummies here.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You're gonna be introduced to something new.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And unfortunately, so far, it's mostly been repeats.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Well, kind of just the gold bears so far.

[Jordan]

Just multiple gold bears.

[Dan]

Two of the four days that I've opened so far have been the gold bears.

[Jordan]

I mean, a Haribo has far more than 24 different, like, shapes.

[Dan]

At least they got a deep bench. Yeah, they could really be doing some damage. Crazy. A lot of. A lot of gold bears. But I'm gonna open up today. Open up the fifth. Okay, what do we got? What do we got?

[Jordan]

We are looking at Happy Cola. Oh, the Happy Cola.

[Dan]

I got some Happy Cola. So this is the part where I eat some gummies and Jordan vamps.

[Jordan]

I, I actually, at this point, I don't really know what we're doing because you have already eaten so many of these Coke bottles. My wife loves the Coke bottles. They're very gettable. What is. What are we doing here with the Haribo thing from Germany that's got shit at my fucking Walgreens, man. I'm talking. I want the secret German Haribos that we don't get. I want the fucking. Well, I don't know. What animals do they have in Germany? The bear. Yeah, that's because of the racism that they have or whatever. I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying that Germany better step their game up in order to get some special Haribo out.

[Dan]

One thing that I will say as a little note is that I think that these are way better than the American versions.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right.

[Dan]

I think this is imported Haribos, and I think they taste way better.

[Jordan]

So they're the ones that have to use products for, like, living people, whereas in America, they're like, yeah, just make it out of chalk.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think there's EU standards and stuff. So I think, like, I had noticed that the Gold Bears have, like, a much better flavor than the ones that get here, man. But, yeah, the Coke bottle is good. Tastes like Coke a little bit, but.

[Jordan]

What you gonna do?

[Dan]

It could be fizzy.

[Jordan]

Is it a. So it has to be a soda bottle, right? Does it taste like Coca Cola or just any old soda?

[Dan]

I think, like, any old cola. Any old cola, yeah.

[Jordan]

What do colas taste like?

[Dan]

Cola nut. They're made from cola nut, bro.

[Jordan]

Is that what they're made of?

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God. I feel like I've just now found this out.

[Dan]

Isn't. Isn't it, like, the same thing that cocaine's made from, like, a cocoa kind of bean or. No, it's. But it's a cola nut.

[Alex Jones]

That's.

[Jordan]

I don't know. Get out of here before I, I, I. We need to go back and get phosphates. That's where I'm. That's where I think it stopped. We should have gotten there.

[Dan]

You don't even know what that is.

[Jordan]

It's a little fizz. It's a little fizz.

[Dan]

It's a little fizz. It's a little fizz.

[Jordan]

Like an Alka Seltzer, like in the 1940s. You go up there and you'll be like, ah, I'd like a little phosphate. And they'd give you a little fizz.

[Dan]

Yeah, but you don't even know what that is. You just know there's a little fizz involved.

[Jordan]

There's a little fizz. You're done.

[Dan]

All right. So I think you're thinking of, like, Italian soda.

[Jordan]

I could be thinking of a lot of things, but, yes, that does sound right.

[Dan]

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

We're going to be talking about December 5, 2025. All right. And it's going to be a little bit of a shorter episode catering to your recovering house. But we got a lot we got to get through pretty soon because we've now overthrown Venezuela.

[Jordan]

I mean, we could probably skip ahead.

[Dan]

Um, I think that it's important to go through this time to understand the process that Alex is going through in order to justify the overthrowing of Venezuela that has now happened.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Um, but, yeah, we got it. We should probably pick it up a little bit, maybe. And we will. Uh, but for today, we have some new wonks, so let's say hello to them before we get down to business.

[Jordan]

That's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first, shout out to Nina Jolin. Congratulations on finally acquitting anti systemines. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. Next. My name is Nic. I poop HRT and win in mtg. Fuck all the haters. They can die. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And Jordan doesn't realize Swifties agree with him about the new album. I mean, I like it for the most part, but the writing has gone downhill. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Jordan's a swifty and we got technical in the mix. Jordan. So thank you so much to Kyle in Columbia. Spent 700 episodes thinking Dan worked at Ragtag because his work stories sounded like a much smaller theater than one of the chains. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bom bom bom bom bom. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Yes, thank you very much.

[Dan]

No, I was not cool enough to work at Ragtag. Ragtag was a very artisty kind of vibe, and you had to be pretty cool to work there. Yeah, it was a forum 8 and I worked there. It was a chain, but it was out of control.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It was as non chain as the chain could be.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right, right.

[Dan]

But my brother worked at 9th Street Video, which is the video store that was attached to Ragtag.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

So he was cool.

[Jordan]

A lot of haircuts. I feel. I feel like Ragtag is mainly people basing their identities around haircuts.

[Dan]

Interesting haircuts.

[Jordan]

Like it? Very. Yeah, yeah, yep.

[Dan]

And weird ideas. About Truffaut.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

Sure. I don't know. I don't have any references for, like, art.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So we start off today on this December 5th. And what do you know? This is the most important time in human history. And Alex is giving his report to the people of Earth.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

We are now in the beginning of the end of the first phase of the Great Awakening and the Great Fourth Turning. There's nothing the power structure can do to stay in control. AI won't do it. Culture war won't do it. Nothing can save them. Justice is right. Justice is good. Justice is strong. The only question is, how painful is this going to be? And what new future are we going to build but in the end of a cycle which we're ending, the cycle of decadence, and now catapulting into the new cycle of rebirth. But you're alive during the most important time in recorded known human history. And this is my report to you, the people of Earth, to make sure.

[Dan]

Everyone understands this is the most important time in human history. And all of the forces that are making it the most important time in human history are in place because of Alex's actions. There's no way around it. Alex is the most important human being who has ever lived.

[Jordan]

It does feel that this is the case.

[Dan]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

There's a lot of good candidates for the time that Alex should think was the most important time in history. But I'll just say that the whole Jesus thing should eclipse pretty much everything else just by default.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

God's son was crucified so that humanity could be forgiven of our sins, thereby allowing a connection between the profane and the divine.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

I get that Alex feels like his side is making a lot of progress because shit talkers have never had so much freedom. You can be a racist shit talker, an anti semitic shit talker, a slandering shit talker, a pretend intelligence agency shit talker, or even a president shit talker who's also in some of the other categories. And there's essentially no social consequence for it. Our system no longer is equipped to handle imposing boundaries on what is acceptable public discourse. So the babies have basically got their run of the daycare. Alex and his friends have been successful in making our media and social media ecosystems functionally worthless. And that's a big achievement. I don't want to make that sound minor, but I don't think it's that impressive compared to what Alex believes Jesus did.

[Alex Jones]

Right?

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

I think he's selling himself a little high.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I Will say this, right. Historically, once people have started with putting the words justice and decadence into the same paragraph with each other, that usually means things aren't going to get more fun.

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

And you know what that means that there's also some big events on the horizon. So maybe he'll be. Maybe he'll reach Jesus very soon. You know, once you put justice and decadence in there, then people are on the rack. Like, very quickly.

[Dan]

Yeah, there may be some racks.

[Jordan]

There's gonna be some wrecks.

[Dan]

It's. It's fucked up. I just think, I think that there's something particularly like. Like, really, Alex y About this version of narcissism that he has. Like, if you take seriously what he's saying, he is humanity.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, it's. It's all been leading up to him. Every. Like everything else is minor. World War I, World War II, all of that shit.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It doesn't mean anything really, compared to this dumb radio show.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's. It's surprising that he thinks about Dune a lot. You know, it's weird that those two things would go hand in hand believing one is the center of the entire universe and also really, really being Alex Jones.

[Dan]

But I wish that he would own it more. Like, I wish that he would not, like, couch. Like, why? I wish he'd stop pretending to respect Jesus. I mean, he's more important.

[Jordan]

You know, it's. Listen, is it more honest? Sure. But it's hard to get through the day. You saw what happened with Lenin. He says one time, we're bigger than Jesus. People go fucking crazy. Imagine if somebody was just like, honestly, I'm better than Jesus. Nobody's gone there before. Well, I mean, some people have gone there before.

[Dan]

Plenty of cult leaders have.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure.

[Dan]

I think it's old territory.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think I like to just fucking do it.

[Jordan]

You got to. You got to treat Jesus face as a stepping stone.

[Dan]

I mean, it's clear that the US system and our government was fully co Optable and take over a bowl. Why would Alex not think that? Like, maybe religion is too. Take it over.

[Jordan]

Yeah, go for it.

[Dan]

So we have been dealing with, in this early December period, a lot of conversation about Pete Hegseth and his hatred of boats. Right. Shooting down these boats.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And killing people. And Alex has obviously been big on defending Hegseth and he's now more able to do that than before.

[Alex Jones]

100% of everything you heard about Hegseth and the Kill Them all drug boat story was a lie. There wasn't even a phone Call. There wasn't even a communication. He wasn't overseeing the strike, just like he said. They called and said, okay, green lit, ready to execute. He said, execute. That's what you do. Hand it over to the admiral. Had nothing to do with it. And now the senators, the Democrats try to come out and say, oh, yeah, it's true, it was made up. But still, it was scary watching the people get blown up on the boat. Yeah. And now, like a fart in church, they just kind of let it slip out. Hope nobody smells it, hope nobody knows where it came from, And they just move on to the next bull crap peg. Seth. Kill them. Kill them all. Excess like this is ridiculous. I wasn't even. I. I greenlit the operation. I. I was a quick phone call. But he's supposedly for an hour sitting there watching the satellite feed, drooling, playing with his tally whacker.

[Dan]

So in the course of our covering the story and Alex's response, I've tried to avoid talking about the reporting about Hegseth saying kill them all, because ultimately, if those stories were true or not, they kind of missed the point. The idea that he would say something like that is meant to make him look cold and overly dramatic, like a kid who's playing a general in a movie. But at the end of the day, it's an indictment of his personality, not of what happened. I don't think it really matters that much if Hegseth had said kill them all or not, because what happened is the problem, not the theatric. Someone said he eng engaged in focusing on the point of whether or not he said this only serves to take attention away from the important issue, which is that the US Military was killing people in ways that violate international law. If Hegseth had said that, then he gets to be painted as a cartoon villain. But if he didn't, he's still equally responsible for what his department's doing. So the Washington Post had reported that Hegseth said this based on an unnamed source, and Hegseth denied it. Later, Admiral Bradley would go on to testify that Hegseth hadn't given this order, which calls into question the veracity of the unname source from the Post. It's not impossible for everyone to be correct in this situation, but that seems unlikely. And the simplest explanation is that the unnamed source misremembered something or got something wrong. They made the claim, which now has been countered and denied by an admiral who was willing to go on the public record. So the burden of proof is really on that unnamed source now, and I'm comfortable in assuming that Hegseth didn't say that until some kind of evidence is presented that he did. But I also don't care. What happened is still the same and it's unacceptable. Whether it went down professionally or like a community theater production is irrelevant. But this story does highlight a trap that a lot of media can find themselves falling into. I don't think you should not report something like this if you follow the appropriate vetting and fact checking steps, but it can be counterproductive. It's an exciting image and allows people who don't like Hegseth to imagine him as this overacting weirdo giving kill orders. It matches with the Trump administration figures like Kash Patel, who've been maudlin as hell with their statements. Like the whole see you in Valhalla thing after Charlie Kirk died. This image of Hagseth saying this, it'll. It aligns with the image that a lot of people want to have of him. So it's going to appeal to a lot of people. They're going to accept it as truth without any instinct needed to question, where's this coming from? Should I really believe this? They're going to just automatically be like, this fulfills the image that I want to have? Sure. Hurrah. The problem comes when the unnamed source behind the story can't back up what they told the Washington Post and an admiral is willing to publicly refute it. Now you have this exciting and appealing image that a lot of the public has latched onto because it affirms their previous assumptions about Hegseth, and for all intents and purposes, it's not true. This allows someone like Alex to claim that the media was lying about Hegseth, to attack him and make the entire conversation about the kill them all comment. By putting out this piece of the story, the media has given the right wing a tool they can use to sidestep the meat of the issue and only have to deal with the theatrical part. This is a good example of what I consider to be the unforced errors that the media has a habit of making. As long as the mainstream media and actual journalism exists as a profit and clicks chasing business, it'll be incentivized to make mistakes like this that play wholly to the advantage of the dipshit media that's seeking to replace them. And it's unfortunate, but that you can see the strategy on Alex's part really adjust to this where it's they never said kill them all. You see how they lied as Opposed to the more pressing issue, which is the shooting down boats.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, we can, we can agree to disagree on whether or not it's a mistake at this point. You know, I mean, if it's part of your business model, I don't think it's in a mistake.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

You know, so I think does feel. But I mean, I understand. I mean, I understand the, the, the, like, reality of it, though. I understand why people would want to talk about what he said, because if you really get the drumbeat of it from the media of, like, hey, our government's just murdering people, there's no reason for it, and it's against the law, and there's nothing anybody can do about it. It's a real bummer of a story that's not going to get a lot of clicks.

[Dan]

Right, right. The idea of him saying kill them all, that does get a lot of.

[Jordan]

Clicks, because that's a movie.

[Dan]

That's a scene that people can overdramatize in their head. And like I said, it fits prior.

[Jordan]

Assumptions as opposed to, you've already lost.

[Dan]

And I think that all that does is play into the ability of someone like Alex to run cover for Hegseth.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

And like I said, I don't think that it's like, don't report on anything like that.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

But I think it's a be real careful kind of thing, you know?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

More careful.

[Jordan]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know even what, what it would be like for them to behave responsibly at this point. Like, it's, it's so far past the point of, like, oh, well, now we can just talk responsibly, you know, get.

[Dan]

Ready to be bummed out by that a little bit later. Even more.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

So Alex is talking, and he's like, I agreed to a suicide mission. This is I, I. The greatest move.

[Alex Jones]

And for me, this is very personal and very existential because it's now been declassified, and we know there's a lot more. I mean, I'm not going to spend hours getting into it all. Many of you seen it. I mean, FBI, CIA, dark money, lawsuits, attacks on my family. And I'm not a victim. I know I'm a big boy. I got into this and expected this, but I expected when they did all this to me and it got drawn out and exposed because we've been sent in as a probe to draw out the enemy. This is pawn sacrifice. I understand warfare. I volunteered to be sent into enemy, behind enemy lines to Expose their positions. I volunteered decades ago to take on a suicide mission. Okay, so I'm very, very rich.

[Jordan]

Suicide. What I've done, that made me a.

[Alex Jones]

Lot of money, threw me not a place of pride, a place of satisfaction.

[Jordan]

And I got to live.

[Alex Jones]

But I would expect that when we draw out the enemy positions, the air cover come in, no matter what happens to me, and blows the living hell out of these people, I'm willing to go to the Alamo, divert the army while folks in North Texas get geared up and ready. Northeast Texas, victory or death. I just expect you guys to deliver after we get wiped out.

[Dan]

Alex doesn't understand his own fantasies. In his mind, he accepted a suicide mission from God many years ago, where he would make himself the first one against the barbed wire, the tip of the spear. By being upon sacrifice, his destruction would reveal the enemy's strategy, which would help his side ultimately win. But Alex isn't on a suicide mission, and he refuses to let himself be destroyed. He's an asshole, and he's seen some consequences for being an asshole, but for the most part, he's gotten away with everything. If he weren't so scared right now about how much of his audience is likely to leave him if he doesn't stay exciting, he could coast for the rest of his life on the Alex Jones network, staying rich and talking shit. And as long as Bigley doesn't fire him, there's nothing the globalists could really do. Clearly, no one wants to kill him, and the political will to put him in jail is nonexistent. So he could do this forever. And that's the thing. There is no suicide mission, except in Alex's head. His fantasy is that he's doing something dangerous and going toe to toe with the most deadly criminals in the world. But that's not real. The real world is that he gets to live a very luxurious lifestyle, and all he has to do is yell about stuff he skimmed on Twitter for a few hours a day. He can drive around without security staff following him everywhere, and he has no sincere fear that anyone is gonna hurt him. This is only one side to the coin, though. There's no suicide mission that Alex agreed to, but let's imagine that there was. If you believe that Alex agreed to become the Colonel Travis for this generation's Alamo, then the only conclusion you can come to is that Alex was too scared to face his own destruction. If Alex was supposed to go down with the Alamo, then he retreated. The legal maneuvering and the starting of new side businesses to Hide assets during the Sandy Hook trial were manifestations of him digging holes under the Alamo to escape while everyone else died. If he'd been a true martyr, he would have fought the case, but at the end, it would have actually destroyed him, which would have let the other people on his side use his carcass as a symbol. Alex was a reluctant and unwilling martyr because when it came time to pay up and be what he fantasized about, he couldn't pay the price. What good is self sacrifice if you're gonna be dead and gone? You don't get to enjoy everyone loving you and talking about how you're a hero. You don't get to do live shows with Tucker Carlson. That sucks.

[Jordan]

That is true.

[Dan]

Alex's ego cannot allow him to imagine a world without himself in it. So he's not willing to do the last step of what his fantasy requires. He's willing to be the put upon sacrificial lamb, but only up till the point where he should be sacrificed. This kinda sums up Alex's version of himself. He's the most faith filled person who can't be stopped from carrying out his missions until it actually comes time to do that mission. If it requires something he doesn't want to do, then who cares if he agreed with God that he'd do it? God's telling you to allow yourself to be a pawn, sacrifice, run away from your judgment. God's telling you that you need to go to Gene Hackman. Ignore that shit. It sounds crazy. Alex wants to be a prophet and he wants everyone to treat him like a prophet, but he's a fucking worm.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. It was a lot easier to believe in God's consequences when you might just wind up in a whale.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

You know, every now and again somebody's like, oh, I was in a whale for a while. Did you learn a lesson? I did. You know, like that's, that's a good solid way to learn this whole, like, I went and Gene Hackman just died. Like he was already really old.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

You know, and even if Alex was supposed to kill him, time got him first.

[Dan]

Also, Alex didn't go. And Alex be like, jonah, not going on the trip that led to the whale and be like, oh, I just, you know, God kept telling me to go, you know, preach over there, but I didn't want to. I was scared.

[Jordan]

What are God's powers? Can God get the whale into the land? Or is that the main situation that we're really dealing with here is that Alex has yet to go into Whale waters for God to inspire a whale to eat him.

[Dan]

I think that going to see Gene Heckman was that it was his call to be swallowed by the whale.

[Jordan]

Right. There would have been. There would have been some whale on the way. I think what we're seeing is God's limit is Aquaman powers.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I think that what we're seeing is that almost categorically that was the breaking point for Alex not going to Gene hack metal.

[Jordan]

I mean, I of. Of all the things that we have ever considered to be a test of faith in this life and in our. I mean, both of us have an extensive religious history, both in study and practice, I have yet to see a test of faith so stark and such a failure. Not once. Yeah, it's amazing. It is. It is almost enough to give you a sense of like, perhaps there is something larger at hand if a man can fail this poorly.

[Dan]

Yeah. And who knows what would have happened if he would have just gone like, I mean, anything. There's a whale. There's a whale. Possibility the whole universe could be completely fucking could have fucked around and stumbled onto like a new Ten Commandments. Anything like that was just hanging around somewhere near Gene Heckman's house that Alex was supposed to find.

[Jordan]

Or we could have found out that there are wetland whales.

[Dan]

Any of this is possible.

[Jordan]

Any of this is possible.

[Dan]

So there's a lot of bad stuff going on that Trump's government's doing.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

But it's a big government.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's true.

[Dan]

There's a lot of people.

[Jordan]

There's a lot of people.

[Dan]

You can't expect it all to be.

[Jordan]

Good, but that is fair.

[Alex Jones]

I got a call this morning from some folks up in D.C. and they're like, you know, we're confused by your show. What can we do better? I mean, we see you getting mad at us, mad at the President one day, and then the next day how we're great. Like we're confused. You're confused. When something I think's bad, I'm going to say it. When something's good, I'm going to promote it. I mean, say rocket science. You think out of a giant federal government, the biggest in history, and 4 million employees under the president, that everything going on is going to be perfect. It's ridiculous. But here's a big issue. I even see people saying, what is RFK Jr. Done? Is that a joke? It would take me. I mean, is that a joke just to scour my memory, to draw it all up, of the incredible things he's gotten Done in just eight months in after his confirmation or seven months in, and then I guarantee you, I don't know about half of what he's done because a lot of it's regulatory behind the scenes. But let me tell you, big pharma and the globalists are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Just look today, and I said this like a month ago in a report because I'd been told this was coming. They just banned the hepatitis C shot for children at birth. And I said they were going to ban it and we'll go, no, they're not. Blah, blah.

[Dan]

This is huge news that RFK banned the hepatitis C vaccine mostly because there isn't a vaccine for hepatitis C. I.

[Jordan]

Was going to say, I feel like the people that I've known who have experienced things would have really appreciated a vaccine at birth.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's nonexistent. What RFK actually did was that his panel of vaccine idiots changed their recommendation about the hepatitis B vaccine, which was formerly recommended for all newborns. And now they say that parents should talk to your doctors. We don't know if we recommend it.

[Jordan]

Got em.

[Dan]

This is gonna cause a lot of illness and chronic conditions among the youth because that first days of life, that period, it's critical in terms of a baby's exposure to hepatitis B. Vaccinating a baby at the point of birth is 90% effective at protecting them from hepatitis B. And a lot of infections occur in infancy. Prior to vaccinations becoming available, children would get exposed by their mother during birth and then were vulnerable to expos in fairly innocuous settings. A lot of people don't know that they have chronic hepatitis B and you don't have to have sex or use needles to transmit it. So it's just an unnecessary risk to not protect children from it. Studies have also shown that children under five who get hepatitis B are more likely for it to develop into a chronic condition, which is why having that protection in place as early as possible is important. RFK's department is severely eroding public health. Even if he's not doing as severe of things as Alex is pretending. And Alex doesn't care about this even enough to know the basic details of the story. It's just talking shit. And you know, people are gonna get hurt.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the, like, they, the. It would be nice if you could just go, oh, well, everybody should ignore it. And then the doctors will be able to just go, hey, fucking, we're just gonna do it. But the truth is, by by the human, by the HHS doing this kind of ambiguous bullshit. What they're really doing is leaving people open for scammers.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

That's where the. That's where the damage is done. It's not done by the people who are like, oh, I want to talk about vaccines. It's about people who are like, instead of a vaccine, buy this.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And that is who RFK Jr is serving.

[Dan]

By not having an equivocal voice of public health recommendation and, like, truth and a center of, like, this is the situation you're in.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

By not having that authoritative voice or refusing to be that or give that you. Yeah. You allow other people to come in on the margins who are maybe trying to sell you methylene blue and shit like that.

[Jordan]

And it's weird. I think RFK Jr might be one of them.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Huh.

[Dan]

Maybe weird. Totally. So Alex, he starts to rant a little bit, and he starts to complain about how everyone is out to get him. Sure. And obviously, he's the most important person in the world, so.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Ironically, not enough people are out to get him.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And part of this ends up dovetailing into a conversation about how he's mad that other people are worried that someone's out to get Candace Owens.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, I can't even keep track of it. And like I said, Tulsi Gabbard's done her job. She declassified the total proof of Obama. Brennan lying to Congress, the FBI, running espionage against the American people, creating fraudulent dossiers, literally stealing elections. Chicoms involved with the mail in ballots. 2020. The FBI covering it up. Bombshell, Bombshell. Bombshell, Bombshell. Arctic Frost, Crossfire, Hurricane. Bombshell, Bombshell. Just the stuff on me. Dozens of documents. Crossfire, Hurricane, Arctic Frost. Destroy Alex Jones. Bombshell, Bombshell. Top threat target Jones. CIA get John's. I barely even. CIA is after me.

[Jordan]

Oh.

[Alex Jones]

Now I just go, here's the document. CIA after me. I should be like, they're coming to kill me. There's hits out on me. The French are gonna kill me. Oh, hit teams. God, I'm scared. And I'm not even saying that couldn't be true, but where's the evidence? I love Candace. The point is, there's, like, government documents. CIA get him pouring out. Everybody's like, well, that's just Alex Jones. He's a big boy. He can take. I am a big boy. The point is, they're trying to get through me to get to you. Do you got that?

[Dan]

If you understand this correctly, what Alex is saying is that he doesn't like that someone else is getting a lot of attention for pretending to be under threat when everyone should be worshiping Alex for being a big boy who's always getting attacked. At this point, Candace Owens is pretending that the French are trying to kill her. Emmanuel Macron's wife has sued Owens for making a documentary series titled Becoming Bridget, which defames her and Macron in various ways, with the one that gets the most attention being Owen's claim that Bridget was born Jean Michel Trogneau and is secretly a trans woman.

[Jordan]

Wow, we're doing that one, huh?

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

The stuff that's less headline grabbing but actually defamatory are things about her and her husband being related, allegations that Bridget committed identity fraud, and a bunch of other crimes that the couple is said to have committed in order to cover up these things. Sure, the Macrons made a critical error by suing Owens because they are the people who are in an actual position of power and should recognize that Owens was trying to bait them. Yeah, this lawsuit is the best outcome possible for someone with the business model that Owens uses. So while harassment and defamation, it's unacceptable and no one should have to put up with it. If you're the president of a country, you should probably just ignore it. If you choose not to ignore it, you're entering into territory where you've validated the shit talk of an attention economy scammer to the level of being something you can't just ignore. And that gives Owens all the power in the situation. Anyway, the Macrons are suing Candace. So at this point she's pretending that France is trying to assassinate her. And Alex doesn't like that her delusions are becoming more popular than his. Yeah, but there's another wrinkle to this that's part of a more subtle trend that Alex is in the middle of. In the right wing media civil war that's going on, there are two sides. One is strongly insistent on being loyal to everything Trump does, and the other is more interested in antisemitism. Sure, obviously Nick Fuentes is on the anti Semitism side and the other more mainline right wing figures like Ben Shapiro or Matt Walsh, they're more on the Trump side. These teams are fighting with each other to define what can be considered America first. They all have racist and fundamentally elitist political views, but they can't see eye to eye on the issue of us and our support for Israel. And that branches into all kinds of other disagreements, some of which are based in real world politics and others are Based in neo Nazi bullshit. At this point in early December, a major crack is developing between Candace Owens and Laura Loomer and the two of them are taking on avatar status for their respective groups. Owens is someone who's been pretty explicitly anti Semitic in the past and has been somewhat marginalized by the mainstream of the right wing media because of that. She formerly worked at Turning Point USA and many have credited Charlie Kirk with building up her career. So she's played a lead role in the conspiracies around his death. She's been pretty all over the map with her main theory seeming to be that Israel was involved and that some Turning Point leadership, possibly even Charlie Kirk's wife, were in on the murder plot. Sure. Candace has seriously underestimated how important Turning Point is to Trump and the GOP as it serves as the main bridge that they have to the youth and how aligned the Turning Point leadership in Erica Kirk are to the top people in the administration. Because of that, this has turned into a giant mess with Owens attacking Turning Point and then Loomer attacking her back and it becoming this ugly, ugly mess. Loomer has come to represent the philosophy of the administration being in power and the idea that other powerful organizations like Turning Point should be in alignment with them. Owens, on the other hand, has become a symbol of an unrepentant type of shit talking, unafraid to talk shit in ways that threaten the mutual power of Turning Point and the Trump administration. When they work together, she's serving a higher calling than mere political machination. And if the leadership of Turning Point are evil and they killed Charlie Kirk because he was getting suspicious of Israel, then the organization itself is bad and should be opposed. They represent two models of the right wing media optimization where Loomer is the establishment access based person and Owens is the freewheeling, I have no boss type. These archetypes don't work together and they have to attack one another. As we saw, dynamics exist between like Alex and Glenn Beck earlier in their careers. Sure, Loomer is the Glenn Beck and Owens is the Alex. But something interesting that you begin to see in this period in December is that Alex sides with Loomer. There are a lot of figures who are choosing their sides on this based on the fact that Owens represents a fully anti semitic future for the conservative movement and Loomer does not. But for Alex, I think that's not what's going on. I don't think that that's the primary axis he's on. I think that Alex has been so beaten down by the world and his own choices to grovel to power. And he knows that he's not the man that he used to be. He has to be on Loomer's side now. And he resents the part of himself that he sees in Candace. She's living like he did back when he was free. And he knows he's supposed to be that character, but he can't anymore. She's having a blast, getting sued by Macron and yelling about how the French are trying to kill her. And Alex is stuck doing whatever this shit is where he has to spend all his days trying to justify war with Venezuela, because that's what Trump demands of him. This brewing war with Venezuela is shaping up to be a really good dividing point in the right wing media, in the same way that the Iraq war was 20 or so years ago. And Alex being on the side that's trying to manufacture consent for a war is an ultimate betrayal of what his brand is supposed to be about. And, you know, you're seeing these little things that are. That are a piece of that struggle.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That aren't even just about, like, Venezuela straight on or the boats or Hegseth.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You have Alex teaming or siding more with Loomer. You have him resenting Candace Owens. And I think that. I think this is. I think this could be where you see a lot of a break.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Let me pitch on this.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

All right. We live in the present. Some things have happened. Let me throw this out at you. Once you've reached a certain point of. It's okay to kidnap. Right. Maybe it's not okay to kid that nap. That person that's being litigated right now. What that does mean, though, go a few steps lower. I think it's totally fine for the French government to kidnap Candace Owens. Right. Like they should be able to just snatch her.

[Dan]

Mmm.

[Jordan]

So I'm saying that we need to solve more problems by state government snatching up random people because at least they're not heads of state.

[Dan]

That's true. See, that's true.

[Jordan]

There's wiggle room now.

[Dan]

I don't know. I don't know where the line is.

[Jordan]

It's. It's about to be heads of state, which means everything below that seems very open season at this point.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, if you're wanted somewhere, snatch him.

[Jordan]

Snatch him up. I don't think anybody in the United States is going to war if France just goes, we're taking Candace with us.

[Dan]

I don't know where. We have a moral high Ground to not like to complain. If someone were to just snatch people.

[Jordan]

All bets are off on the moral ground being up or down at any given point in time.

[Dan]

This is just a mess. And one of the things that I see forming through this time and as we get more towards the present, is the echoes of Iraq.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

And, like, obviously it's not the exact same situation, and who knows how this is all gonna play out, but it was pretty clear from the lead up of, hey, we're bombing these boats, we're shooting these boats out of the water. There's like, well, these are belligerent acts that are meant as a pretext in order to go in, topple this government, probably involved with the oil, I mean, that they have, and other resources.

[Jordan]

I think what will be exciting about this next stretch of time is we've never truly. Okay, like, so we went to space, you know, and. Or we climbed Everest, you know. Why? Because it's there. And I ask myself, how much money can one man steal? And this is when we're going to find out. I don't know how much money one man can steal, but Trump is going to steal an entire country. That's fucking huge.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and this is. This is why I make such a fine point about this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think that there are people who can kind of recognize this is what we were supposed to be against with Iraq.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

And they aren't going to fall into the same trap, possibly, like, let's say Tucker did in the early 2000s. Sure, sure. You know, fall into the, like, justifying this war and, like, okay, I'm on this side. I'm a conservative, I'm a right winger, but I can't. I'm not supposed to be cool with this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And Alex's brand for his entire career was that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And now he's the opposite.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's why I think that this is really interesting and why I think that. I think that Loomer and Owens are, like, definitely not the captains of the team.

[Alex Jones]

Sure, sure.

[Dan]

They're representative. And their fight is representative.

[Jordan]

They're two champions right now. Yeah, yeah. Duking it out. I, you know, I was thinking about it in the context of what's going on. Does it even, like, have an effect now? Can we even measure? Because this took everybody by surprise. Right. Like just snatching up the president of Venezuela.

[Dan]

Well, it did, because multiple media outlets didn't report on it in advance out of courtesy to the military.

[Jordan]

They did not.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God. Fuck us. We're done.

[Alex Jones]

We're.

[Jordan]

I'm out. Fuck you, America. Fuck off. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Out of deference for the military, out of safety. Oh, my God. We love America, Dan.

[Dan]

Yep. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I think.

[Jordan]

I wish you hadn't told me that part.

[Dan]

I think it's fairly uncharted water of, like, what, this is gonna go down. But there are a lot of similarities and a lot of feelings of like, we didn't learn. We didn't learn anything.

[Jordan]

No, no, no, no, no. This is unchecked.

[Dan]

So Mike Lindell is coming up. He's gonna be on the show because he's running for the governor of Minnesota. Good luck.

[Jordan]

I think he's got a shot.

[Dan]

Yep. It's not gonna be a circus of a campaign at all.

[Jordan]

Nope, nope, nope, nope.

[Dan]

And so he's coming on. And the rest of the show mostly is about the guy who was arrested for the pipe bombing on January 6th.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right, right.

[Alex Jones]

Michael Lindell, running for governor of Minnesota. Taking action. There he is behind the scenes, working 24 7. What a dynamo. We need him. Governor, Minnesota. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. He's coming up next segment. And then Ivan Ranklin has gone to the house of the pipe bomb patsy. I mean, we know. And I'm so upset about the FBI. I want him to be good. I want Patelman to be good. And they're told by their underlings what's going on. So I'm not giving them cover. I'm just saying, this is. I've got all the inside sources. We have all the inside baseball. We know what's going on. And yesterday when I came in, we got a really smart crew, and Thomas is one of the smartest. And he said, yeah, you know, I. I bet it's going to be some autistic brain damage person who doesn't know how to talk, basically. Yeah. Yep. Autistic. Can't really even talk, according to family and neighbors. Black dude.

[Jordan]

Not important. Until it is somehow.

[Alex Jones]

But he was doing DoorDash in D.C. then, so they've got his cell data in the area. He's. The guy looks nothing like the person with the pipe bomb walks. Nothing like it. But what are you gonna do? He's extremely autistic. I even said sometime on the show yesterday, I said, I bet it's a, you know, autistic or brain damaged person.

[Dan]

That was not Alex's prediction. At some point, he might have said the word autistic in the middle of a rant trying to attack the bombing suspect. But his main plot was that the bomber was going to be someone with a criminal record. Who. The globalists put up to this under the agreement that the charges would be dropped once the heat died down. As long as he blamed Alex and the infowar for the bombing.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

This is a good representation of how the infowar has to be constantly fluid in order for it to work. You have to make predictions you put out today sound definite, but not so definite that you can't undo them tomorrow. In order for Alex's scam to work, he has to be constantly moving and constantly. Right. So that's what he demands the audience accept is the truth. The guy who was arrested for the pipe bombs has been described by people who know him as being autistic. But Alex is just making things up about him not being able to talk and all this stuff. Yeah, he's playing at negative and dangerous stereotypes about people who have autism, and his reason for doing so is pretty clear. The suspect has apparently confessed to planting the bombs. And according to lawyers, he said that the reason he did it was because the 2020 election was stolen and someone needed to do something about it. Alex doesn't want to deal with this reality because it's too inconvenient for him, so he just ends up with this trash that he's doing.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

An interesting wrinkle to this story is that. But if the guy just pleads guilty, would Trump's blanket pardon of Anyone involved in January 6th apply to him? Trump released people like Stuart Rhodes and Joe Biggs, who were at the Capitol specifically to incite chaos that would stop the certification of the election. So what's the difference? For an unsuccessful bomber, Trump's guys got out because they committed their crimes in service of him holding onto power. And if the news about the bomber is accurate, then he was doing the same thing. Pardons should apply to him.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I wonder if that. Is that how it works?

[Dan]

How does it.

[Jordan]

How do blanket. Let these guys go? Pardons work?

[Dan]

I don't know, but I imagine his lawyer would probably try to find out.

[Jordan]

I would think so. I would think so, because I can't. I mean, God, if there's a statute of limitations on, like, I fucking should have been caught at the right time, that would really bum me out.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

If I had, like, successfully evaded capture for six months.

[Dan]

Too long.

[Jordan]

The pardon window, that would fucking. That would chat, my ass, my man.

[Dan]

Yeah. Also, Alex is just wrong about some of the details here. The guy wasn't doing DoorDash in D.C. he was there specifically for the Trump rally and he worked at a family owned bail bond company. The idea that he was there doing doordash is the way that the right wing conspiracist folks dealt with all the cell tower. Exactly.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

It's meant to be covered.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So, yeah. This guy's a patsy, though. And Alex called it. And he's always right about everything.

[Jordan]

Sure. If he is a patsy. All right, then why are we doing it now?

[Dan]

Well, because the conspiracists were getting too close. The theorists were, you know, with the guy, the lady that the Blaze accused of being the bomber.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They were getting too close to the main stash.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So like they had to throw. They had to do a cover up.

[Jordan]

Yeah. No, and I'm, I'm, I understand the, that thought process.

[Dan]

Right.

[Jordan]

But I also don't understand, like, who in the, in the larger organization because there's big stuff going on, you know, not. This is even in December, early December, you know, pre. All that's going on right now, there's still lots of big stuff going on. So they've got to have like B team people.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Going after this. Right.

[Dan]

I mean, Alex said it himself, it's the biggest government that's ever existed and he's a small government guy.

[Jordan]

Right. So. So are these guys trying to, are they trying to make the varsity team next year? Like who's, who's, who's trying to be employee of the month here? I feel like this doesn't need to be going on right now.

[Dan]

It's not Bongino, because apparently he quit. So I don't know. But Alex is a little bit upset because he thinks that the media was trying to say that it was a white dude. It was a white.

[Jordan]

That was the media is trying to do.

[Dan]

I don't know. I guess according to Alex.

[Alex Jones]

And then you've got the corporate media, of course, saying it was a white dude, but it's lies within lies. First a white bomber, what bombs at midnight, CNN reporting all that white captain. And then it's lies within lies. I mean, what are the chances we are like, oh, I bet it's an autistic or brain damaged person, of course, like who firebombed the Reichstag on February 27, 1933 so Hitler can become a dictator. And it was later, you know, came out in the Nuremberg trials. Marinus Vanderli was mentally retarded. And they just said he set the fire and he's mentally retarded. So he couldn't defend himself, so they execute him. News flash. When your patsy is mentally retarded, you've got a setup.

[Dan]

I don't know what stories Alex is referring to where the media said the pipe bomber was a white dude, but I think it's a funny complaint for him to have. His whole storyline is that the guy who's been arrested is a patsy and that the real bomber was the woman who the Blaze accused a couple weeks prior. She is a white woman. So Alex believes that a white person did the crime and that a black person is being unjustly blamed for it. And yet he's still trying to act like all of this is an attack on white people.

[Jordan]

It's about the principle of the thing.

[Dan]

It's amazing.

[Jordan]

It's not about reality.

[Dan]

So it didn't come out in his trial that Marinus van der Lubbe was mentally challenged. And I would assume that Alex shouldn't take anything that happened at that trial too seriously. Historians generally have a position that it's probable that he was responsible for the fire, possibly alone or possibly with conspirators, but also that he didn't get a fair trial. He was posthumously pardoned in 2008 because all Nazi verdicts are tainted. Duh.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it would be hard to think, oh, the Nazis nailed justice. You know, they got everything else wrong, but the legal system was fucking top notch.

[Dan]

Yeah. I know that Alex doesn't have much to work with here, but he sounds very dumb. He's saying that if someone who's blamed for a crime is mentally challenged or on the spectrum, that means it's a cover up. But he also thinks that the Oklahoma City bombing was a false flag. And he doesn't think that Timothy McVeigh was challenged. He thinks that the January 6th riots were a false flag. And he doesn't think his friends like Stewart Rhodes are mentally challenged. There's no consistency to anything he's saying because none of it's supposed to be remembered. Alex can only get away with this lazy, idiotic shit because he's not held to the rules that he sets himself. If his audience demanded any kind of consistency, he'd have no audience. And I think he knows that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you follow up that, that line of thought with, how about Stuart Rhodes? What do you think about him? I don't see how he wiggles out of that one without admitting that he.

[Dan]

Doesn'T really like Stuart or Joe Biggs.

[Jordan]

Joe Biggs.

[Dan]

Boo. So Mike Lindell, running for gov is on, and the two of Them, obviously, they. They need money. They need you to.

[Jordan]

They do need money.

[Dan]

A lot of money.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so not only is Mike Mandel an incredible American success story and a patriot and an entrepreneur and a trailblazer exposing election fraud. Everything else, he has been through living hell. I don't have many, let's just say, people that have been in the position I've been in to be my peer. And I don't say that, you know, like, oh, I'm a great. I'm a wonderful person. But you got Trump up there, the most battle scarred. Well, then in amongst all the other shot up individuals who didn't bow, got stronger under it because you backed them. This is all about you, folks. We can be as strong as we want and have hearts like lions. If you don't back us, we can't do it. We'll never give up. We'll never sell out. We'll never back down. We could give out Mike Lindell, the ultimate story of perseverance, just like myself. Judges, Democrat judges finding him guilty and now having show trials, they're killing him up just like me. But as long as you back him, he will continue on. People say, well, this goes on forever. That's the whole point of fight between good versus evil.

[Dan]

Alex couldn't be more brazen about this scam.

[Jordan]

Wild.

[Dan]

The battle between good and evil never ends. So this whole thing where Alex needs you to give him money to fight the lawsuits that he's brought on himself, that's never gonna end either.

[Jordan]

It would never stop.

[Dan]

You see, Alex is standing between you and the devil. And the only reason that your life is good right now is because the devil's having so much trouble getting through Alex. But that won't be the case. Your life is gonna suck if you stop giving Alex money. If you understand this sales pitch correctly, it's actually a threat. If people don't keep giving Alex and Mike Lindell money, then they're gonna give out and you're gonna be left to face the devil yourself. It's essentially Alex saying, hey, get a nice place here. Be shame if the devil came and wrecked it. This is just imaginary mob stuff.

[Jordan]

It is religious extortionism.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. It's like the prosperity gospel. If you didn't even bother with prosperity, like, don't even know. Things are not going to get better for you. They're just not going to get marginally worse.

[Dan]

But as long as you keep me between you and the devil, you have a chance at prosperity.

[Jordan]

We'll keep some. I'll keep most of it back.

[Dan]

Yeah, you got like a 5% chance with me in between the devil and you, but you have a zero if I'm gone.

[Jordan]

And you know, this is what we're talking about. This is the limits of it, though. The prosperity gospel. People, they have private jets worth millions upon millions of dollars. You got to promise people a little bit more than that. They're. That, you know, they're not going to.

[Dan]

Die because you're going to die anyway.

[Jordan]

You're going to die anyway sooner or later.

[Dan]

So probably shouldn't be too surprising for me to reveal to you, given the dynamics that are at play here, that a lot of this seems to just be a. My pillow.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Dan]

Yeah, for money, everybody.

[Alex Jones]

If you don't back fighters and there's nobody in the media like Mike Lindell or Alex Jones, we both are at the tip of the spear, having the greatest effect. Massively targeted, more than anybody else other than Trump, in total lawsuits, attacks, you name it. And I mentioned before the break, I remember the Western journalism center about 15 years ago, sued and got the Clinton records from their foundation. Not the Global foundation, the one in Little Rock, their presidential foundation. And they got the first days of their White House. They got it all. And they were obsessed then with shutting down newsletters and self published books of the Clinton Chronicles. People that made films on VHS because of grassroots. And they said if they ever entrepreneurially fire up the conservative base with businesses, it's more popular than us, it will build an ecosystem. The CIA was advising them because people could then vote with their choices of who to buy with and we would take over society peacefully through the free market. That's why they target Mike Lindell. That's why they target me. Because we're smart enough to sell good products to you that employ Americans to then fund our operation, a symbiotic operation that goes against the globalist move everything to China and India. What we're doing is pure Americana. And I know you know this. I'm not lecturing you. I'm just saying when you don't buy from MyPillow.com forward slash Alex, when you don't support what we're doing, you're literally funding your enemies. And it's. And it'd be one thing if the products were crap.

[Dan]

So to be totally clear, the fact that Alex is trying to get people to go to mypillow.com Alex tells you everything you need to know. Here, this is an ad. This is paid programming. Yeah, Alex has a landing page on mypillow to get a cut of whatever sales he drives there. So like, all this shit is just marketing.

[Jordan]

Affiliate marketing is great.

[Dan]

The memo that Alex is talking about is one from the Clinton White House that's often called the conspiracy Commerce memo. And it's actually incredibly prescient. It's an analysis of how the right wing media works. And it's right on from the memo. The media food chain is the system by which right wing activists feed conspiracy theories and innuendo from the fringes into mainstream media. The food chain starts with activists such as Willie Horton, creator Floyd Brown, Sheffield Nielsen and Larry Nichols. These activists feed the partisan conservative press publications such as the American Spectator, the Washington Times, and the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. The mainstream press then picks up on those reports. The memo lays out timelines and a number of stories that have a pattern of being pushed by the same people like Brown or Larry Nichols, and are reported initially by things like British tabloids. Once the stories are published there right leaning US media that have an appearance of more credibility, they're more comfortable running stor stories about how the British tabloid articles are coming out. And they discuss these articles in other places. And through that process, these stories are easily laundered into the mainstream American media. The memo also explains how many of the publications that serve as the middle step in this process are owned by billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, like the Tribune Review or the American Spectator, and how critical these outlets are to the laundering process of innuendo, conspiracy theory, gossip, bullshit it into respectable journalistic outlets.

[Jordan]

It's a good thing we just didn't know about this.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The memo more or less explains the entire media ecosystem that Alex and his cohorts exist inside of. It doesn't rely on things like British tabloids or conservative friendly publications anymore though. It's all fully mechanized and automated through social media itself. Reinforcing and reflective it is, it has.

[Jordan]

Become its own engine.

[Dan]

Yeah. And the necessity of those media respectable outlets playing along is no longer even really necessary.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Even going back to this document though, the pattern's the same. It starts with some asshole ranting about nonsense which then gets covered somewhere else that's kind of disreputable. The Internet will pick up the story and it'll be rewritten and covered by an outlet that's slightly less embarrassing to cite, which lends the original allegations a little more credibility. People seeing this story will respond by taking it more seriously. And if the effort is really successful, then it's possible that investigators or Congress will look into the underlying claims, which makes them look more real, even if they're total bullshit. Through this model, conspiracy can become an economy. And it has. The idiotic ravings of some dipshit can be treated like a serious story that demands everyone's attention. If the right pieces are there to launder the underlying claims before an audience has a chance to realize that they're coming from a dipshit anyway. The point is that our parents failed us. People weren't oblivious to the idea that money and ill intent could create a media landscape that was fully exploitable and incapable of discerning reality. They just didn't have the will to stop that from happening. And we're living in the consequences of it.

[Jordan]

Sure, yeah. I mean, it's tough. Whenever they didn't have the will to stop it, to expect people now to have the will to stop what's happening now.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan]

Like, if it was hard back then, fuck me.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

But on the other hand, you know, the harder it is, the harder it is to ignore.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

So there's something to be said about. Let's see where the equal and opposite reaction happens. And if it is actually us just being shot into space, it might be. Yep. It's possible.

[Dan]

So Alex, he has some sources on the bomber story.

[Jordan]

Oh, the story. Pillow manufacturer.

[Dan]

Who gives a shit?

[Jordan]

Okay. Okay.

[Dan]

Don't care about Mike Lindell. Go fuck himself and go lose in the primary.

[Jordan]

I mean, I think he's got a shot.

[Dan]

So, Alex, don't sleep on him. That's not a bad slogan. That's not.

[Jordan]

That's actually not bad.

[Dan]

He should probably take that.

[Jordan]

He should be. Really should. Don't sleep on Mike.

[Dan]

Sleep on my pillow, not on me.

[Jordan]

Yeah, something like that. Yep.

[Dan]

So Alex has sources, though, on the. On the situation with the pipe bomber.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And one of them is a robot. All right. He's asked.

[Jordan]

An actual robot.

[Dan]

He's asked.

[Jordan]

Oh, God damn it, Grock and other.

[Alex Jones]

AI has looked at the gate of this guy and says, it's not the same person. No kidding.

[Dan]

Pull up.

[Alex Jones]

Let me show you. Let me show you. This black guy, she got this person that, to me, looks like a woman. The mannerisms, all of it, you know, they're covered up. But I remember seeing the gate and the walk of the people that robbed the Louvre, and I said, those are North Africans. And they were Algerians. 10 second video of them. I said, north Africans. I said, probably Algerians because that used to be a colony of France. That's usually the main problem. Keep two data points. Who's the main North African group in France. Algerians. What do those guys look like? Their shoulders, their heads, their little skinny legs. All of it. It's like people look at me like I've been in Germany. People walk up and start speaking German because I'm, you know, I'm half German. I look German, you know, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, North Africans. And I called it.

[Dan]

Okay, that's a gift.

[Jordan]

This is. Wow. Wow. That's.

[Dan]

I can tell North Africans by their walk.

[Jordan]

That's the most white man's burden shit I've heard since. Literally, the white man's burden. That is fucking nuts. Colonies. That's where the problem starts. Oh, do you mean what? No, I don't even want to engage with that. I don't even want to engage with that because that's too far past all the other horrible shit that you said.

[Dan]

Well, he can tell. You can tell.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

You can tell people by their walk. Their gate.

[Jordan]

I don't.

[Dan]

That's a North African walk.

[Jordan]

Here's what I think. Here's what I think.

[Dan]

This.

[Jordan]

This clip and the last clip both reminded me of. Like, this is when somebody. This would be a character in a tech savory cartoon, and they would have all these words, and then our main character, a smallish but taciturn individual, will hit them with a gigantic hammer.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

That is what I feel like needs to happen right here. A giant, gigantic hammer.

[Dan]

And then. Then he would just have, like, one little bump, and then it go.

[Jordan]

And then he'd. He'd turn into.

[Dan]

If he was wearing a hat, the bump would, like, lift the hat up.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Or.

[Jordan]

Or he'd shatter into a bunch of glass pieces. Or he would be flattened, and then his face would, like, give you a little thing, you know? But all these things require gigantic cartoon.

[Dan]

Mallets or hammer or not a hammer. Piano.

[Jordan]

Piano would definitely fall on him. People don't drop pianos on people anymore.

[Dan]

Now, those were.

[Jordan]

There were times whenever. It was just.

[Dan]

So anyway, Grok says it's not the same person. And Alex can confirm this because he's able to pick North Africans out of videos by their walk.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Great. I don't care. This is stupid.

[Jordan]

I don't know how more stupid a series of words can be.

[Dan]

Well, we can get a little stupider because Alex has another source on this story. That is a human, all right. And that is a character by the name of Secretary of Retribution, Ivan Rakelin.

[Jordan]

Oh, God.

[Dan]

So he comes on and they talk about the bomber, and I think that there's one point that they try to make that I take a little bit of offense at.

[Alex Jones]

That's right. Exactly. This guy's just a placeholder. Just as a. Basically. But let's be clear. You just dropped the bombshell. And it's in the. It's in the indictment. They're using metadata, they're using geolocation data that in March, he's at a Home Depot. He's here. This is way before the election. They're saying he went and made bombs because they sold the election. So he's a time traveler. He's making bonds six months before, seven months before the election.

[Ivan Rakelin]

He's doing it before the states implemented the illegal Covid measures on the election. So he must be a really good oracle to know in advance that there's going to be 39 states running their elections illegally. They're gonna shut things down. They're gonna go ahead and rig the primaries for the Biden criminal syndicate.

[Dan]

Right.

[Ivan Rakelin]

And then from there, they're gonna go ahead and rig the general election. No, I mean, this is just complete nonsense. It doesn't pass the sniff test. And when you start to. I mean, just looking at the headlines. It doesn't pass the sniff test.

[Dan]

Do Alex and Ivan expect us to accept the idea that the conspiracies about the 2020 election being stolen only started after the election? Are they really that brazen that they're trying to demand the audience forget that. That they were yelling about how the election was going to be stolen for months in advance of any voting even happening? Do they expect us just to magically forget that Trump and his surrogates like Alex were constantly talking about the globalists trying to steal the 2016 election, but Trump overrode the fraud? Too popular. I'm not saying that what the prosecution or the courts are saying is definitely accurate, but I do think that somebody could have bought bomb making supplies in March 20th of 2020, with their motivation being that the 2020 election was going to be st. Stolen. This is not something that fails the sniff test.

[Jordan]

Yeah, this one. Listening to those words really made me want to burn things to the ground. That was fucking.

[Dan]

Or impeach the Secretary of Retribution.

[Jordan]

How could you mean? This guy must have been an oracle. Or he listened to you, the person you are. Who was that? Who said that? That was you. You said that. If. If. Whoa, man. If you're gonna cognitive dissonance, be like that. If you're gonna gaslight me like that. That's a crime. That should be a literal crime. That's assault. That is an assault to be gaslit that fucking hard.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Alex wants everyone to ignore this aspect of the story because it more directly implicates him and the people who do the kind of media that he does. If all the crazy shit that happened with the 2020 election just happened after the election was decided, then maybe you could see it as a grassroots response to an election that people believe to be stolen. But the reality is that there was a concerted media effort to declare the election stolen long before it ever happened. Which is why someone could easily have been motivated by that supposed theft before the election even happened. Absurd. Alex and Ivan understand this. It's just tactically important that they pretend not to because exactly what you're yelling about.

[Jordan]

Absurd. Yeah, I fucking can't. That is. There's a pain in my chest. I am having an aneurysm. I'm so angry about listening to that.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, that's. Well, you know, if you have a pain in your chest, you're already, you know, in poor health. So why don't we cut it off here?

[Jordan]

Bearing my. Like a chimpanzee, I am ready to tear off faces and balls. That's what I'm here for with this motherfucker.

[Dan]

I'm interested in retaining my face and balls.

[Jordan]

Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

So we will call it here, all right, and reconvene.

[Jordan]

Fair enough.

[Dan]

But yeah, I mean, I just talk about the bomber being a patsy and all this shit. Who cares? We are marching towards that inevitable ousted Maduro. And I think that it happening kind of makes my. Let's dwell in how this all. How this all leads up to. It feels like, well, we should probably not take our time. I honestly thought it would be a little bit longer before shit popped off. Yeah, shit popped off quicker than I.

[Jordan]

Popped off and in a way that nobody was really prepared for.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So that, I mean, what's nice about that is at the very least, we don't know what's going to happen.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

So it's better than watching the past repeat itself, I think is watching the past end itself wouldn't be that great either.

[Dan]

I think we do know one thing though, and that Alex is going to support whatever happens, anything. And that's an interesting way that the future, the past is not really repeating itself. This is a different kind of version of events. A doctor Strange multiverse of madness. It is type. I haven't seen that movie, but yeah, close enough. Yeah, it'll be the same. Anyway, we will be back to check in on how Alex proceeds towards war. Yes, but Sheldon, we have a website and we do.

[Jordan]

It's knowledgefight.com.

[Dan]

Yep, we'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the sex robots.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Jordan]

Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work, I love you.