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Jordan
Red alert.
Dan
Red alert.
Jordan
Red alert.
Dan
Red alert.
Leo
Red alert.
Jordan
Red alert. Red alert.
Dan
Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgefire.com. it's time to pray.
Guest or Additional Commentator
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
Dan
Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge.
Jordan
Dan and Jordan.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Knowledge Fight. Need.
Dan
Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Andy. Stop it.
Jordan
Andy and Kansas.
Dan
Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.
Leo
I'm a fish caller.
Dan
I'm a huge fan. I love your word.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Knowledge Fight.
Dan
Knowledge Fight dot com. I love you.
Leo
Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
Jordan
I'm Jordan.
Leo
Where a couple dudes like to worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jost.
Jordan
Oh, indeed we are.
Leo
Dan, Jordan.
Jordan
Dan, Jordan, Quick question for you.
Leo
What's up?
Jordan
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
Leo
Well, it's January, so as a tradition, you go first.
Jordan
All right. I will tell you that my bright spot is Friday I got a new tattoo. Oh. And it is a chest piece. I'll show it to you right now.
Leo
Whoa.
Jordan
Isn't that a good one?
Leo
That's crazy.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Over your whole breast meat.
Jordan
Over the whole.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
I've always wanted one.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
But I've spent a lot of my life with saggy tit.
Leo
Sure.
Jordan
So I'm. I'm in shape enough now where it's like, let's do it, because it's not going to get less saggy as time goes on.
Leo
Yeah, that's. That's a nice. It's a nice little thing to do for yourself.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good. And my bright spot is not just that I got this tattoo, but it was done by, again, my. My favorite artist now, Caitlin Drake McKay. And I discovered that she's a wonk now.
Leo
Oh, shit.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
Hey, what's up?
Jordan
There we go. It happened.
Leo
Now, you could just. Hey, one more host to tattoo, then, you know, like, if you like the.
Jordan
Show, then there's nothing else to do. But I think one of the things she said that made me very, very happy. I think Devin, my wife, had gone to her and gotten her most recent tattoo, and she'd said, you know, I'm really proud of Jordan. And Caitlyn was like, okay. And then she said, this time, after I listened to it, I was like, you know what? Yeah, I'm a little proud of Jordan, too. So that was nice.
Leo
Yeah, that is sweet.
Jordan
That was Nice.
Leo
Well, wonderful. And it looks good.
Jordan
It looks great.
Leo
I mean, I only saw a picture on your phone, but you don't have to pull your shirt.
Jordan
I wasn't planning on. It's also bandaged and covered in blood.
Leo
Sure, sure. I don't want to see the blood.
Jordan
No, no, no. But it is gorgeous. Her colors are incredible, Pops.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Yep, yep, yep. All right. January.
Leo
Yeah, it is January.
Jordan
What do we got here?
Leo
Well, you know, it is also a tradition that we have in January that I have to. Or get to.
Jordan
Yes.
Leo
Enjoy. Gummy Advent calendar. Okay.
Jordan
All right.
Leo
Thank you so much, James, for that. Today we're breaking out the Haribo. Haribo. Haribo, whatever you want to say.
Jordan
Haribo. It is horrible.
Leo
That Meanie. Kevin Meaney.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
I can't find the right day. I can't find the 12th. Where the fuck is the 12th? There it is.
Jordan
There is no 12 in January.
Leo
There is.
Jordan
It's like the 13th floor.
Leo
There's crying in baseball and there is a 12 in January.
Jordan
Maybe we'll see what happens.
Leo
So we got.
Jordan
I don't know.
Leo
I. I don't know. This looks like a bottle opener. Like, it looks like a gummy bottle. Look at the character on the front of that.
Jordan
I guess. I guess that's kind of. It looks like a Kinder Schnuller. That looks a little bit like a butt plug.
Leo
It doesn't not.
Jordan
It doesn't not look like a butt.
Leo
Or a bottle opener or a shoehorn or something.
Jordan
You like, whatever you like.
Leo
Here's the part where I try these.
Jordan
Out and Jordan fans, I think that's a good idea. I. My vamp today is to just let you know, while you cannot reply, that the tennis season is back upon us. Baby. The tennis season has begun. In the next couple of weeks, the Australian Open begins. Who's going to win? Is it going to be Carlos Alcaraz? Is it going to be Yannick Sinner? We don't know. But it will probably be one of those two. It's almost guaranteed to be one of those two. That is how the tennis world works. Now it's one of those two, or I guess the world might explode.
Leo
That's fantastic. And I'm excited for you to enjoy that.
Jordan
I will.
Leo
I gotta say, there's a problem with this.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
I'm not complaining because I really like gummies.
Jordan
Sure, sure, sure.
Leo
They're all the same.
Jordan
Yeah. You. You kind of. I think you. You bet bigger on Haribo than maybe they deserved. I think what you're looking for is like a Novelty jelly bean. Maybe that's kind of what you're.
Leo
But I really don't want one that's like, oh, this one might be charcoal flavored.
Jordan
That's part of the.
Leo
I don't want vengeful jelly beans.
Jordan
That's part of the game. The part of the game of the jelly bean is occasionally you'll get one that tastes like a fart.
Leo
No, I don't want that. I want something that might be interesting. Sure. Like an interesting flavor that I wouldn't. I wouldn't normally go for.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Mm.
Leo
Like, I think I remember I ate a jelly bean that was, like, grass flavored. Sure. And I thought it was good.
Jordan
Yeah. Yeah. That's not surprising.
Leo
A gross flavor, but it was actually pretty good.
Jordan
I don't know. I mean, I imagine that there's some sort of freshness to it that would be.
Leo
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm cool with that. But don't give me a fart. Don't give me charcoal.
Dan
Right.
Jordan
I mean, there's a big difference between grass and, like, bathroom toilet, you know?
Leo
So I'm also realizing now that I look back that most of my reviews of the cheese were. It was fine.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
So maybe everything is just fine.
Jordan
You're. You're. Well, I mean, back. If we recall the year of the seltzer, there were plenty of fights.
Leo
Maybe I'm not an eater. Maybe I'm not a foodie or a drinky.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
It's a good thing we were sick for the past couple episodes. That'll cut down our January Advent calendar.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
So speaking of that, apologies to folks that we both got sick. Could have seen that coming. You getting sick and then us being in a tight room with each other.
Jordan
Where I yell directly in your mouth.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
Yeah, that caught up with us. But here we are. We are back and thrilled to be back. And we're jumping forward in time a little bit.
Dan
Smart.
Leo
Because the world is nuts.
Jordan
It is moving.
Leo
And so we'll talk a little bit about that. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks.
Jordan
Ooh, that's a great idea.
Leo
So first, Toadkiller Dog and the Black Company. Thank you so much. Your diabolazy wonky.
Dan
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan
Thank you very much.
Leo
Thank you. Next. Love you all from the Nebraska Kauf holds. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
Dan
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan
Thank you very much.
Leo
Thank you. And Bree, with a kick ass Milo Thatch costume. Thank you so much. You're now, policy wonk.
Dan
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan
Thank you very much.
Leo
Thank you. And we had a technical credit mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Bailey. The one eyed horse wants to join the cult of Selene. And also say to her fellow Swedish fans of the show. Oh, no. Hej par ardet ette. Oh, no.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
Et Jettalin het crazy at V. Leisner PA and podcast on Galen Amerikonsk. Gooby Goob.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
I don't know.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
Anyway, you're not a technocrat.
Dan
I'm a policy wonk.
Guest or Additional Commentator
4 stars. Go home to your mother.
Dan
Tell her you're brilliant. Someone. Someone. Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy. Shark Jar Jar Binks has Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce. Jesus Christ.
Leo
Thank you so much.
Jordan
Thank you very much.
Leo
I think that we have to limit words you're making me say in another language to like four anything.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah. Less than. Less than an eight word sentence.
Leo
When I see a full sentence coming at me, in other words, other letters that I can't put together in my brain.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I panic.
Jordan
I will tell you something. Sometimes I put them through a little translator to hear what they sound like. Do you know what's crazy? Sounded exactly like that. You nailed it 100%.
Dan
Hell yeah.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
What's up, Swedes? So, Jordan.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I've been slow rolling through December. True. And one of the big reasons for that is that I thought something like overthrowing Venezuela would be a little further off in the future. I'd wanted to take some real time and marinate in this stretch of time because it's a glaring exercise in a guy trying to get his audience to support a war. There's obviously an interesting element to that and it makes that stretch of time something that might be worth re examining at some point in the future. But ultimately, I think the point that I wanted to make has been made. Alex has been trying to create rationalizations for why it's okay to support regime change operations in Venezuela while pretending that it's consistent with what he sold his audience for his whole career. We've already heard this going on on the show. We don't really need to beat anyone over the head with it. So, you know, let's go ahead and get to business.
Jordan
It is what it is.
Leo
Anyway, look, a lot of stuff, stuff has happened recently.
Jordan
A few things.
Leo
If only I had access to an idiot quoting a historical figure to explain the situation. We find Ourselves.
Jordan
Interesting.
Dan
As Lennon said, there are times when years happen in weeks and decades where, you know, the exact quote is, there are decades when nothing happens and weeks where decades happen. I think I'm conflating it. Pulled the linen quote.
Leo
So, anyway, we're jumping ahead to January 2, the day before we kidnapped Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. And Trump made it a little too obvious that we just want to steal their oil.
Jordan
There was a decade in that day. There was a whole decade in that day. It took a decade for everybody to admit that Bush just wanted the oil. We did it in a day. That was great.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And I don't think that, like, Bush did a press conference right after invading Iraq where he was like, oil, baby.
Jordan
Nope, nope. Even his mission accomplished press conference wasn't like, and now we can steal everything.
Leo
Yeah. It feels seedy.
Jordan
Yeah, it's a little bit. I mean, again, I appreciate the loss of ambiguity. I hated it. It was always annoying. And now that it's gone, I live a happier life, I guess. Yeah.
Leo
So we start on the second, and the reason we're doing this is because on the third is when news breaks that we've taken Maduro and murdered a bunch of people. Sure.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
Yeah. But most of them were Cubans. It's fine.
Jordan
There you go. See, it counts. It doesn't count.
Leo
So Alex on the second is really worried about Trump launching some attacks.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
But against Iran.
Dan
You noticed about a week and a half ago, Iran declared war on the United States. That's because they knew the West U. S Of Israel was already launching color revolution there. And now for three days, it's been in full bloom. Trump came out today and said if they shoot any of the protesters, which they've been doing all over the country, the United States will come to their aid. And if Trump says that, he'll do that. Just like Nigeria, Just like they're now bombing ports in Venezuela. Remember last week in Marlongo from some Netanyahu and is like, oh, yes, we'll strike them right away if they do anything. And so that is not what we voted for. I am not for the mullahs. I am not for them trying to wipe Israel off the map either, but this is one of the last countries that the west has not toppled over there. And I'm all for their people doing it, but I really don't think we should be involved in this. I think most of you agree with me on that.
Leo
So this is the position that Alex is mostly putting forward.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
A lot of worry that Israel is going to shoot some protesters as a false flag to make the US Attack Iran. Yeah, that's kind of his preoccupation the day before. So close.
Jordan
Yeah, so close. I mean, maybe wrong hemisphere possible, could be wrong circumstances and plan and targets.
Leo
Sure.
Jordan
But other than that, he was really close.
Leo
Yeah. I mean, the fact that there's an attack coming.
Jordan
Yeah. I mean, you see what I'm saying? We didn't know that.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
So Alex believes that Israel is coming out and saying that we need to get rid of the First Amendment in America.
Jordan
Can they do that?
Leo
No. Well, I mean, anybody can say, yeah.
Jordan
It'S their First Amendment right.
Leo
But Alex may be making this up.
Dan
Okay, Iran says they're at war with us now we're going to be getting to all of that coming up. And now Netanyahu has come out in the last two months. He did it again last week. And so there's an eight front war now, not just fighting the Muslims, but fighting in America to censor people. And again, everybody knows I don't have a hard on for Israel. I don't sit around and go, oh look, they did something bad again. Yay. I don't think it's the center of the universe. I don't think Israel's the only country that can do evil. I'm not an apologist for Israel either, but a lot of the anti Israel crowd, the Islamicists and the Nazis and man, I, you know, I mean, they just lie and, and they're anti Western and hate me. So I just call balls and strikes here. But now Israel and its lobbies are openly calling for the repeal of the First Amendment ball. I mean, point blank. And so I posted about this this morning and immediately I had the Israel worshipers, mainly Christian Zionists with their brigades saying I'm a liar and Netanyahu doesn't want this and I'm Muslims and I'm just stop it, just stop. I mean, if you go look at my feeds on Rumble or X or M4 anywhere, I'm literally attacked by all the Nazis. I'm attacked by the Muslims, I'm attacked by the Israel first lunatics. And all I'm trying to do is just not have a nuclear war ball. And Israel has no business saying repeal your First Amendment for your own safety, which I have clips of. Their main cybers are the godfather of their modern system in NSA, the former head of the 8200 group ball three and one, literally saying it's time to get rid of the First Amendment. I mean, just good Lord, take a walk yeah.
Leo
So what happened here is that Alex saw a clip on Twitter of a guy named Shlomo Kramer doing an interview on. Kramer is the CEO of Cato Networks, and there he's there to make the argument that the First Amendment rights need to be limited as it relates to social media, because the danger that those spaces pose as vectors for misinformation.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
We're on the cusp of AI being able to create very convincing fake realities that can be spread on social media. And the implications of that are disastrous when you realize, like, what nefarious actors can surely. The ability of people to just post whatever the fuck they want with no consequences and nothing tracing back to them.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Creates an information ecosystem where nothing is real.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
I mean, there. There are ways to say, you know, you could say we're on the cusp of AI being able to do all of these things, or you could say we're on the cusp of moving back into the trees. And I think both of those things are true.
Leo
Sure. It could be.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
I don't necessarily agree with Kramer, but I do think that his concerns are valid. I don't know if the idea of cracking down on, like, these social media platforms and protecting free speech, I don't know if those are mutually exclusive things.
Jordan
Right, right, right, right. I gotcha.
Leo
There's the. There's kind of this idea that in order to solve the problem, there needs to be, like, Internet IDs for people. And I don't know if that's true.
Dan
Right.
Jordan
I think we all understand the concept that unlimited is probably not going to work out very well. And that too, it is not going to work out very well. And there's a correct middle ground. And nobody knows exactly where that middle ground is. And that's kind of where our problem is.
Leo
Yeah. The idea of, like, tracking, like, everyone's identity online.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Is not really a great idea. But that doesn't mean that the problem that that would be addressing isn't real.
Jordan
Right, right, right. The problem is it feels like every solution is going to hurt more than the problem. But anytime you try and help, it's really probably not going to help the problem.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yeah.
Leo
It sucks.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
People look at social media like Twitter and Facebook, like it's all just about me being able to express my views and get my thoughts out there. But the truth is they're giant marketplaces where your engagements and data are the main product. We only think about it in terms of how we're free to post our thoughts, because that's the only part of the transaction we're allowed to be a part of. So when we think about the government regulating social media, it always ends up feeling like they would be regulating what you can or can't post. There are other methods of regulating that the government could do that would make an impact on how destructive a thing social media is. That would still protect the First Amendment, I think. I'm not sure exactly what those are, but I think there's a possible way.
Jordan
Yeah. I mean, at the very least you should be able to go like, hey, you can't, like, know where everybody is all the time. That's probably bad for us.
Leo
Yeah, yeah, it's. It's detrimental to privacy rights.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Anyway, Kramer is an Israeli man, but that doesn't mean that he speaks for the Israeli government. Him doing an interview with CNBC and expressing this position isn't the same as Netanyahu's government saying that they want to get rid of the First Amendment. And it sort of feels like Alex can't tell the difference.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Or more accurately, he's pretending not to be able to tell the difference because that's what works for his content.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah. Shit, take one, make it all. Now you can hate everybody.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
And like, the connective tissue that he has to, like, tie it to Netanyahu is a clip of him saying that, like, we have a war for the hearts and minds of the population. Yes. There's a PR element to their war. Yes.
Jordan
I mean, if that's what they're doing, one, bad plan on their part, not gonna work to achieve the stated goals. And two, nice catch on your part because it doesn't feel like there's anything there.
Leo
So Alex, he's worried about the First Amendment, but he's also worried that maybe his show hasn't been racist enough.
Dan
I'm going to explain this forever, but thank God now people are aware of it. Thank God people are finally getting it. And the Somalis are a pirate slaver clan and they follow the orders of their leaders. They vote 99% the way they're told. So they're the worst because the Democrats love working with them. Because you can stick even in a medium sized town, 500 Somalis, and you can run 500, 600 businesses. One of them can run a dozen businesses and one of them can steal 10, 20 million dollars.
Jordan
Is that how that works?
Dan
And they'll sit there and fill out the forms and do as they're told and because they're pirates, I mean, they, they follow their boss's orders because it Somalia they kill you if you don't. So they, they're well oiled mafia machine. Even though on average they have a 70 IQ. So because they are so hierarchical, they're very effective. So basically they're like robot thieves. Okay. And they're perfect. So that's why they're so effective. And they're prized, they're prized creatures by the Democrats and in Europe they're prized by the Labor Party. In the UK they've set up nests of them in all the major towns and cities and they just, they over perform at stealing. They just do a fabulous job because they're pirates. They're the captain now.
Leo
They're the captain now. You know, resist.
Jordan
Well, I mean, yeah, you got to do that. Yeah, you got to do that. You know how in like the 19, I don't know, was it 1908, something like that, that World's Fair in Chicago where they just like captured a bunch of people from different nations and then just like put them in cages and then we're like, look at these fantastical monsters from faraway lands. I was like, ah, thank God that's in the past.
Dan
Wrong.
Leo
Now Alex thinks that's cutting edge.
Jordan
Hugely wrong. Hugely wrong.
Leo
That's an avant garde ethnic study.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yeah.
Jordan
Like what are we doing? That was the craziest. That was crazy. Yeah, that was legitimately crazy.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
He's, he is just, I mean this is just a hate show.
Jordan
That'S so specifically hateful.
Leo
Yep. So he tries to pull it back a little bit and he wants to preach to his avant garde Nazi listeners, maybe some of the people who he thinks he's luring over from Nick Fuentes or whatever, that they shouldn't criticize Israel from a place of hate.
Jordan
Interesting.
Dan
Now is Israel the only group influencing us? No, the anti Israel folks have this fetish and only cover what Israel's doing, manipulating us. And when I cover other groups doing it, like the comments Chinese, I'm coming for Israel. No, I'm not a one trick pony. And the reason I explain this is not to defend myself, it's to get those of you out there to become multifaceted a little bit deeper to understand these things. If you just oppose Israel trying to control our politics and take over our government from some hateful position, then that turns off people that would listen to you and turns off people in Israel that would agree with you. Instead, just address it as it is and say it's wrong and it's dangerous for everybody. When I criticize Communist Chinese party, I don't criticize The Chinese people. Yeah, you do see what I'm getting at.
Leo
It's a cute idea. But Alex absolutely hates Chinese people and speaks about them in horribly disparaging ways, as he does of all groups that he considers different from himself. Understood correctly. What Alex is saying is that a lot of his friends are being way too obvious about how their politics is based in hate. He's lived a lifetime of covering that up and using coded language of political correctness to push for bigot policies while enjoying the camouflage that polite society allows him. So he could be in Richard Linklater movies and look like a cool weirdo who just loves humany spirits and on.
Jordan
The street with the bullhorn.
Leo
Yeah, yeah. He's begging folks that he wants to profit from to play by the rules that he's needed to follow for his whole career, not realizing that none of them stand to gain anything by doing that. They don't need to hide their hateful views because you can express toxic shit and still get rich and not have to live in constant fear. At this point, they've made that a reality.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
Alex is the one who's trapped, and he doesn't seem to understand it. He's ushered in a media full of neo Nazis, racists, and hateful creeps of all sorts, and a lot of them are getting rich and famous. They aren't gonna moderate because that would be career suicide. And it's gonna start looking more and more weird why Alex won't go as far as they do. The longer this goes on and the more high profile these folks get, the more pressure there will be for Alex to do something, and there's no good option for him.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
If he gets more extreme, it makes the rest of his career look suspicious. If he stays moderate, then he. Why aren't you using slurs? Why aren't you having fun? Like the cool, fun people?
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
I mean, it's. It is like you. You have to make a choice, though. You just have to do it. Like, you cannot live in this space because he's full of. But he is, right. Whenever he says, like, oh, when I go out on social media, everybody's shitting on me. Yeah, you suck.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Everybody knows it.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Pick a place to not suck at. I guess that's the best you can do.
Leo
Well, I think that. I think another problem is that, like, he's cultivated an audience that is sucks. You know, like, they suck.
Jordan
Everybody sucks.
Leo
His audience sucks. And he's lowered the, like, level of discourse in the space that he creates things into.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
So the standards of what they can say to him very easily is, is really low.
Jordan
Do you know. Do you know what I did? I didn't. I knew I would get here, but I'm really missing Brendan. I'm really missing Chase. We needed Chase energy for that specific clip because it started off like I'm trying to give you guys some depth. And if he had Chase there and he was a little sadder, he could, he could have elevated it.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
As it stands, it's just shit.
Leo
Alcohol and Chase are the answer.
Jordan
They are 100%. Yeah. Don't get more extreme. Don't get more moderate. Get drunk and hang out with Chase.
Leo
Yeah. Now imagine if Alex was saying this while Chase was sitting by nodding.
Jordan
All right.
Dan
To me, this is a litmus test. Any of the Jewish talk show hosts or anybody out there that support this, in fact, it needs to be put to Ben Shapiro, who is definitely in the pocket of Netanyahu. I think he is a intelligence asset. My opinion, how he operates. Levin, there's no. I believe they are officially Israeli spies. Okay. And I don't hate Israel in and of itself existing. I do hate people that act like they're Americans and act like they're loyal when everything they do flies in the face of that. And I believe from action and behavior that Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro are actual intelligence operatives. Card carrying with Israeli intelligence agencies. I know the cut of their jib, as you say.
Leo
So Alex now has litmus tests for Jewish people in media.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
Cool.
Jordan
That's. I mean, you know sometimes when you hear something.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
You go, I think I may have heard that before. Oh, yeah, I may have heard that before somewhere. How did that go? Do you remember hearing that before?
Leo
It rings a bell somewhere in the faint recesses of my memory from my woke education.
Jordan
Yeah. You know what I love about humans? Learning? Generational learning. It's just so prevalent and there.
Leo
Yeah. I think he confuses race memory for racist memories.
Jordan
Memories.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Remembering racist things that have been said elsewhere.
Leo
Yeah. So that, that sucks. I mean, like, there's just no way around it. I get that he's saying that these Jewish American talk show hosts need to be against the repeal of the First Amendment.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
Which I'm sure they are. But the way he's going about expressing this is. Is pretty glaring.
Jordan
I mean, I don't even know. I don't even know which representation of this exact situation to reference.
Leo
So Somali people are right. Robot thieves. Sure.
Jordan
That one's definitely there.
Leo
Jewish people to prove their loyalty.
Jordan
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Leo
We are in the garbage.
Jordan
It is not going well. It is. It is hard to imagine being in, like, 1940s America and hearing about Japanese internment and being like, well, I guess that's just fine. You know? But then now you're here and you're like, well, I guess that's just fine.
Leo
It's insane.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
So anyway, also, Zoran Mamdani is now the mayor of New York.
Jordan
Well, I guess. No, that one's good.
Matt Bracken
So.
Leo
Well, not according to Alex.
Dan
Oh, I've read the Quran. That's got to be like, 25 years ago. And it literally says at the end, the end, that God comes back and kills everybody.
Leo
Oh.
Dan
And we all just die.
Jordan
So there you have it, folks.
Dan
Being sworn in on a Quran.
Leo
Yeah, that's cool, man.
Jordan
So spoiled the book.
Leo
The Quran ends. But also, like, isn't there just something beautifully stupid about someone saying, this is how a holy text ends? I mean, it's like, it's a novel.
Jordan
It's a real. It's a real. It's a real page turner. But then you get to the end and you're like, I don't know if I even liked this book.
Leo
Yeah. Third act problems. Everyone dies.
Jordan
You know, it is really hard. It's really hard to end things. It really is.
Leo
So Alex is frustrated that Zoran is gotten into office. Sure. Partially, I think, because he doesn't like tenants. He doesn't like people who rent things.
Dan
Sure. You now got Mandami Big sworn in on a Quran. And then he says, which they'd already announced, we're going to go into all these. Landlords and, you know, it's not going to be the globalist stop me going after Larry Silverstein. And if there's a clogged toilet, there's a clogged drain. If something hadn't been fixed, we will seize your property. And they have those unconstitutional laws in the books in New York, and we're.
Jordan
Just the only place they have them.
Dan
Renters. Democrats all over the country let squatters come in and even rent Airbnbs. You see it all over the time. Tens of thousands of cases a month. And in blue states and blue cities, they'll let you stay there up to a year, sometimes longer. And you just go rent an Airbnb for three days and you don't leave for six months, or you rent a house and then you don't leave for two years. And I know people personally that are friends of mine who were kind of more liberal. Not really super liberal, but yeah, you know, and they've had people squat in their houses for years.
Leo
I imagine that if Alex were forced to give an example of someone who he knows who's had someone squatting in their home for years, it would be. It would end up being some asshole that he knows who's going through an ugly divorce and it's like his ex wife.
Jordan
Yeah. Yep, 100%.
Leo
This is all very dumb. But I guess Alex's hero comes from the New York City slumlord class, so it makes sense that he would want to come to their defense.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
In this about Mamdani's actions. So on his first day in office, Mamdani placed increased focus on the office to protect tenants and signed two executive orders that created housing task forces. The first is the lift Task force, or the Land Inventory fast track. This group is charged with reviewing city owned property and identifying places that would be good to build affordable housing. The second is the Speed Task force, or streamlining procedures to expedite equitable development, which is tasked with reviewing regulatory pressures that could be removed to expand the supply of housing available and the matching of that housing with people who need it. In theory, Alex should be in favor of the second one because it's about cutting through the red tape. But it's important to keep in mind that all these ideas about his favored policies, it's all role playing for him. It does not matter.
Jordan
It's coming from a man who is evil, so it doesn't matter.
Leo
Yeah. And truth is negotiable.
Jordan
And it's also not explicitly in favor of the landlords. So even if it was just neutral, he'd be like, I hate it.
Leo
Weird pull on Larry Silverstein, though.
Jordan
It is strange to rip that one out.
Leo
Yeah. He only has ever come up as the guy who owned the twin towers on 911.
Jordan
I mean, that's.
Leo
I didn't even know if he was still alive.
Jordan
There is a. That is a claim to fame, though. It's hard. It's hard. Infamy and fame are still, you know, identical in a lot of ways.
Leo
Right?
Jordan
I don't know. I don't know exactly. That's almost more like a tidbit, you know, or like a fun fact.
Leo
I think it was more of a anti Semitic spasm.
Jordan
Sure, There's. There's definitely that. I meant Maybe in like 100 years, whenever it's on a quiz or something like who owned the Twin Towers? What they felt. Why would you put that on a quiz? What Jeopardy show is doing that, man?
Leo
The. The. The Patriot one. That.
Jordan
Oh, boy. I'm Scared of patriot jeopardy.
Leo
So, you know food is expensive. Sure. And part of the reason is because Black Lives Matter have been blowing up grocery stores. Can't be true because the globalists told.
Jordan
Them, I really don't think so.
Dan
And now in Chicago and in New York are saying, you know, food's too much. We're going to have government sponsored grocery stores which subsidized food, Mondami has said, where the taxpayer pays for it. And it goes beyond the food stamps, where they then just basically give you.
Leo
The food.
Dan
Because they've cut the police and allowed BLM to burn down the other grocery stores.
Jordan
Sounds true.
Dan
It's about getting rid of free market, getting rid of competition, creating cloud and piven, collapsing the economy, collapsing the society so that all that is left is the state. This is a classical formula.
Leo
If you're following along. Grocery prices are high because the globalists got rid of the police and Black Lives Matter paid people to burn down grocery stores. Or maybe that wasn't meant to be the explanation for high grocery prices. It was just Alex's fantasy of what would happen if government subsidized grocery stores existed. They'd have a government food place, and then all the other food places would get run out of business, so we had to go to their food place. Makes sense.
Dan
Right?
Leo
The issue is that this whole publicly subsidized grocery stores thing already kind of exists, and Alex's fantasies haven't come true. In many rural areas, public assistance is required to maintain grocery stores, but Alex doesn't seem to care too much about that. Like, the USDA runs a program called the Healthy Foods Financing Initiative. It provides financial and technical assistance to vendors along with another program called the Local Food Purchase Assistance Cooperative Agreement Program. These and other such programs exist in order to strengthen the supply chain, and it helped make it possible for a food seller to sell food even when it wouldn't be profitable for them to sell food otherwise. For some reason, this isn't a major problem, but Alex sees it as the end of the world. Like if this assistance and simplicity were just passed along to the consumers.
Dan
Right.
Leo
It's bullshit and he sounds like a child.
Jordan
Yeah, I mean, it is. It is a core tenet, though, and one of the powers of the right wing that they have exercised perfectly, which is to overreact to anything that if people do recognize, helps them and they like, will lead to more of that thing.
Leo
Yes.
Jordan
You know, so like, the idea of people eating has to be something that all people on the right hate, because eventually people go, I like eating. Yeah, let's do more of things like I get to eat.
Leo
You will immediately die if those people eat.
Jordan
Yeah, absolutely, 100%.
Leo
Also at the end of that clip, though, I wanted to bring real sharp focus to this. Alex does one of my favorite things.
Dan
This is a classical formulae.
Leo
He's desperate to sound smart, so he compulsively mispronounces words in a way that makes him sound like he's educated. Formulae sounds like a thing a really smart person would say because we all say formula. But he must be talking about something more complicated than what us dumb people know about dumb formulas. There's a formula one that's a race thing. That's pedestrian.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
The issue is that formulae is just the plural of formula. I was gonna say Alex is saying formulae because he wants the audience to hear him and think that he knows Latin. But the irony is that this choice of words only proves that he doesn't.
Dan
Right.
Jordan
Yeah. I mean, he's trying to say, because I had an E on there, I'm smarter than you. Yes, but that's like trying to say that you're smart because you add an S on something. That's not it. You're just saying formulas.
Leo
Yeah, I just. I just can't get enough of when Alex does shit like that. Yeah, that just tickles me.
Jordan
Your inner pedants does come out.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yes.
Jordan
Yeah, you've got you. You find a lot of guilt in your pedantry because regular people don't deserve it. Well, to find an outlet where it can be full force.
Leo
Yeah. And there were like six or seven things that are consistent. He does this one consistent.
Jordan
Yeah, that's definitely true.
Leo
I love it.
Jordan
It is annoying. And.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
So with this next clip, Alex is pretty clear that he is all about white people.
Dan
Ah. Then I've got more clips of him with all these people in different languages and different Muslim languages dancing and chanting and person after person saying, you know, finally the reign of white people's come to an end. The point is, is that they've taught all these groups they brought in to be anti white. And then when whites finally go, okay, we have identity. We're going to stand up to you. Well, then we're the bad people. This is the clash of civilizations that's been planned. Let's go to a couple of these Mandami clips. Here he is being sworn on the Quran.
Leo
Cool, man. What's. What's white to you?
Dan
And.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
Let's. Let's get real down to first principles here.
Jordan
I mean, if You're. If you're going to do this, then just go full Nazi.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
This is. This is. Don't. Don't tell other Nazis to be like, hey, pull it back a little bit. And then be like, yeah, but you know, everybody I don't like as a cockroach who should die, like, just fucking be a Nazi.
Leo
Yeah. Yep. It's kind of dumb because you are a Nazi.
Jordan
Yes. All you need to do is just say it. Just fucking Stefan Molyneux. White nationalism.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Just do it.
Leo
Yeah. It needs to be over and done with. And I think that maybe this next clip is him desperately trying to do that, because I got to give him a little credit.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
There were a lot of people who were saying that Zoran Mamdani did a little bit of a Nazi salute at his inauguration.
Jordan
Mamdani did a Nazi salute.
Leo
He didn't.
Jordan
He didn't.
Leo
No.
Jordan
Okay.
Leo
But a lot of people on. On Twitter.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
We're putting the clip of Musk doing that very explicit.
Jordan
Yes.
Leo
Nazi salute.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And then playing it next to Mamdani doing a little wave, which only illustrated how dissimilar the gestures they were making are.
Jordan
How much Musk was making a Nazi Sal.
Leo
Yeah. Yeah. And when I say I have to give Alex a little credit, it's about this. He's not falling into that trap.
Jordan
No.
Leo
He's not accusing Mamdani of doing a Hitler salute.
Jordan
It would be a weird thing for Mom Donnie to do.
Leo
No, it would be fine if he did.
Jordan
Sure.
Dan
And Mandami did the natural human salute, where you touch your heart and then embrace out and put your hand out. Why do you think the Romans 2, 400 years ago, started that salute? In fact, go to me and the left will take this and say, I did this because I love Hitler, because it's their deceptive.
Jordan
Are we doing this? Please talk about me. Please talk about me. Please tell people I'm doing a Hitler salute. Please.
Dan
From my heart to you. Reaching the handout.
Leo
He holds the salute for a while.
Jordan
I.
Dan
Of course, you got the Roman handshake too, where they don't grab the hand, they grab the forearm.
Jordan
Digress.
Dan
Copied that. Hitler copied that. But it doesn't mean that salute belongs to Hitler. Just like people go to India. It's been all the news. And they go to these 3,000 year old temples and demand it be taken down because they got swastikas. It's a sun symbol. Let me show people. I know most of you know this.
Leo
So now he starts doodling swastikas.
Jordan
Of course.
Dan
Or pedophilia. The rainbow is beautiful. God says our promise in the first book of the Bible. This is a sun symbol.
Jordan
How does that first book end?
Dan
And every culture, from the Aztecs, the Indians, the Norse, all had it. Okay, this is seen as a positive one, going clockwise. And you've got the negative one. The point is, there's different types of. Like, everybody thinks the peace symbol. Actually, this is the rune under Germanic culture and under the Viking cultures of a tree. A tree that's alive, the arms are up. That's the rune of life. This is the rune of death. And, yes, the Big Dipper. The fall, the winter. It's a swastika. That's why they have that symbol. So. But every time I do this, and I'll do it again because I don't care. I'm not going to control what I do because they're going to lie, misrepresent.
Jordan
He's doing this is from my heart.
Dan
To all of you, reaching out to you and humanity. Just because Hitler did that, it doesn't belong to him.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Hmm.
Jordan
Did we. Did we stumble into somebody getting high and discovering that everything agreed upon as arbitrary? Or is somebody just really desperate for people to tell other people that he's doing the Hitler salute?
Leo
Boy, it's very obviously the second one. Yeah.
Jordan
Feels like that. Feels like that. Feels a lot like. I really, really want attention, Please.
Leo
I need to pop a rating.
Jordan
Please, somebody, please.
Leo
This is in the business. And wrestling. What you might call cheap heat. It does.
Jordan
It does feel a little bit. Yeah.
Leo
This is the equivalent. You couldn't really respect someone who comes out and, like, shits on the local sports team because everyone's just begging people to boot.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If this is hacky, if I'm. If I'm listening to somebody ask you to support the troops at the end of their set. I know what they're looking for.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
So anyway, this leads to deconstruction on Alex's part about how symbols are about intention.
Jordan
Did he really? Oh, boy.
Leo
Because he's a teacher and he's really. He's given us some. Some truths, Brendan.
Dan
It's the intent of a symbol, Ladies and gentlemen. Like, people have seen the governor of Texas. It's having the last few governors do this, and every time I do it, people take the screenshot go, look, Jones is such bad arthritis. My hand being broken, I can't even do this now. Wow. I'm getting old, man. Look at that. I can't even do it. There we go. A few too Many fights, folks. Wow, Usually like that. Sorry. Like a Roy Batty and Blade Runner. Man, I'm count down here. At least this arms like 80 years old. But what even do it anymore? Good Lord, I can do it. With this hand they will show governors going, look, they're Satanists. No, this means I love you. And it also means hook them horns for bevo. But if you're a Satanist doing it, then it does mean you're a Satanist. So somebody's wearing a Pentagram shirt and doing it. Well then you know what they mean by it. And I know you all know this.
Jordan
Unless they don't.
Dan
I know you all understand this, but just know when the left tries this crap with you, it's so stupid.
Leo
Alex is totally correct. Symbols are about intent. But let's not pretend he's so stupid as to not understand the other layer of this. Symbols have a meaning that you can understand if you know the symbol. But if you don't know what the symbol means, it could have an entirely different meaning. It's like with language, words have a meaning, but inside some. In group, certain words take on different meanings that communicate something to members of that group. For instance, the word noticing can just mean that you're making note of a particular thing. But to a group of Neo Nazi types, that word is code. Being an adult and navigating the world means that you kinda have to understand that something like the word noticing can be Neo Nazi code or it cannot be. You can't just attack anyone who uses that word, but you also can't ignore someone winking at you when they say it about a Jewish person. Symbols are about the intent with which they're used, which is why dog whistling exists. At a certain point, you have to assess the information that's presented to you. Alex's worldview is basically just sloppy rewritten Nazi propaganda that his dad passed on to him from Cold War diehards. A couple months ago he shaved a Hitler mustache on his face because his Nazi friend was getting too much attention from Tucker and Alex was getting jealous. Now he's spent a fair amount of time discussing how the Hitler salute isn't so bad, partially as cover for him to do the salute, hoping to bait media into covering him doing it so he can play the victim. Also, on this same show, he demanded that Jewish Americans in the media should be subject to loyalty tests. So maybe the intent of his symbols are as clear as they fucking need to be. Yeah, this is garbage. He's obviously trying to get attention, but come on.
Jordan
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know how to. Like, it's almost a postmodern style of Nazism, you know, like this winking Andy Warhol re recursive Nazism where it's like, I know I'm a Nazi and you know I'm a Nazi. Let me explain to you how not to be a Nazi within them telling you how to be a Nazi.
Leo
Yeah. The problem is that Alex isn't good at it.
Jordan
No.
Leo
He's good at the political correct language obscuring kind of bullshit version that, that existed from the 90s into the 2000s. The youth are way better at this postmodern version that you're talking about. He sucks.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
We're living in like the color of Money. Like he's Paul Newman, buddy, either you fucking get rid of Tom Cruise and you start your own game or you're done. You're just an old man. Yeah, it's too late.
Leo
You're. You, you're. I mean, the only metaphor I can come up with, like right on the spot is like, you're a radio guy on tv.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
In the era of T. But it's not even tv. It's like three generations removed.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
You're. You're a radio guy on space beamed mind shows.
Jordan
Video killed the radio star. Whatever killed you is from a goddamn future far, far away from here.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
So we need a break. Yeah, we need to take a little break.
Jordan
A little Nazi break.
Leo
Yep. So let's talk about do Ronnie James Dio. That's the guy.
Dan
Wow. And every time I do the beo explaining the people that claim they're the right wingers, they're the Patriots. Look, Jones did it again. He admitted he's a Satanist. No, I showed you. And by the way, I actually looked the symbol up decades ago. I actually learned about this like an MTV interview 40 years ago. And I looked it up once the Internet got going, it was true. Ronnie James Dio was like explaining, look, I didn't popularize this for Satan worship. My grandmother, you know, had been born. In Italy you find interviews and, and in Italy you'd ward off Satan with this. You ward off the evil eye and say a prayer to Mary or whatever and then ward off the devil. Yeah. There he is saying it. So he said, I didn't even mean it like that. But then it got picked up as a sign of the devil because, you know, he basically was into all that stuff he said, covering it all, looking all angles of it. I mean, no doubt he was in the Occult. He admitted that, but he wasn't a devil worshipper, in his words. The point was, is that he was actually saying what it was.
Jordan
What was the point?
Leo
It's weird how accurate Alex is about Dio and how wrong he is about pretty much everything else. Dio did say that his grandmother introduced him to that symbol as a child and that it was meant to ward off evil spirits. But also, Ronnie James Dio isn't a great source of accurate information. Dio took over for Ozzy Osbourne as the lead singer of Black Sabbath in 1979, and Sabbath bassist Geezer Butler has been pretty public about how he was doing the devil horns gesture for years by that point. Yeah, Ozzy had this thing where he would do a peace sign at the audience, and Dio didn't want to just copy him. So he asked Butler for some tips. And Butler passed on the horns, which Dio went on to popularize within pop culture.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
There's only so many things you can do with five fingers and the bones that we have. Yeah, there's a lot of bones.
Jordan
There are limited combinations of which fingers can be up. Most of them have no visual, you know, esthetic to them.
Leo
Nope.
Jordan
So you're kind of limited to, like, four things that you can do.
Leo
Yeah, the piece and the horns are like. You're halfway.
Jordan
Yeah, exactly. That's where you're at.
Leo
Neither of these dudes fucking came up with this symbol and the devil didn't. If the devil has, like, some power that is conveyed through hand signals.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
We got a fucking shitty.
Jordan
I mean, I think they. We all know that the devil created the double finger guns. That's what the devil symbol is. Because any time. No, no, no. Anytime something bad happens and somebody gives you the double finger guns, that's the devil. You know it.
Leo
Do they have to do the click?
Jordan
Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. The devil doesn't speak English.
Leo
Do you remember the Super Finger?
Jordan
No.
Leo
I think it was a Dane Cook.
Jordan
What, the Super Finger? Yeah.
Leo
Put up three fingers instead of just the middle finger.
Jordan
Right, right. Oh, wow. That's a bad bit.
Leo
I seem to recall that. Anyway, Alex goes to some calls.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And he gets a caller who's like, hey, man, you know the Jewish people like to censor things.
Jordan
Sure.
Dan
Correct.
Leo
Alex is like, yep.
Caller
Thank you for taking my call, Mr. Jones. Well, I would say, you know, speaking of the Israeli government talking about limiting our First Amendment, that Pharisee censorship is nothing new. And in today's world, it's labeled anti semitism Right. So the First Amendment allows us to say Jesus is Lord. And I don't want to get into the, you know, philosophical debate of it, but we all know that Islam is the attack force of the Pharisees. If you think about Albert Pike's letter to wipe out Christianity or the supposed letter. But I just.
Dan
Well, it's not just that. I could play you 100 rabb. And I'm not saying it's the majority of Judaism. It's a lot of them. They. They talk about how their work, how they support Islam in the clash against Christianity to take down the west, man.
Leo
Not good.
Jordan
What are we doing here?
Leo
Not good.
Jordan
What is. What the fuck? Why would anyone believe any of this?
Leo
I think it's pretty easy if you're getting a call from somebody and they're talking about Pharisee censorship.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I think you might just be able to move along.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
Maybe don't explicitly sign off on whatever that person's selling you.
Dan
You've.
Jordan
You've told me everything I need to know. So I want to add this. All the rabbis agree with.
Leo
Well, not all, but a whole lot.
Jordan
A whole. Most of them.
Leo
All the ones that I see posted on Nazi websites.
Jordan
I'm not saying you should do it on site, but I'm not saying that you couldn't.
Leo
So Alex moves on from this caller and starts discussing how he needs money because shit's bad, but also maybe he's about to win everything and infowars is safe.
Jordan
Oh, that's nice.
Dan
I'm not going to belabor this. It must be very short and sweet. We got about a 400 underage projected out into March on what we were bringing in, meaning each month, you know, 100 something thousand dollars less than we needed to operate. But because of you guys, we have already cut that deficit down. And we are caught up right now as of this morning, meeting with the accountants with about $50,000 extra for what we currently need for the pay period. Now, the funny part is the left wants this money or wants to shut down. There's nothing there. Like God sends in, just enough to keep us on air. But we do have another couple hundred thousand dollars. We got to get extra into March because you saw the Democrats, the Justice Department coming to my bankruptcy, do a fake sale, try to take it over with Michael Bloomberg and the Onion. The judge shut that down, and there was a criminal investigation started by the feds into their activities. So the judge got upset. He wasn't involved from our evidence, but he kicked it out of federal court into State court with the purple haired antifa judge that the fake show trial. And then she announced, okay, we're shutting it down three months ago. I'm sending in the sheriffs. She signed the order, but then they didn't come. And I've not been read in on it, but I know there's a just department investigation you've seen in the news. Well, some stuff went on. I'm not, I haven't been told, but I'm. Let's just say they're not happy. Okay, so I know this. People have gotten visits. They know about our racketeering suit, our conspiracy against rights suit. They've asked us not to file that at this point. And there's a bunch of movement and who knows, Infowars could get saved.
Leo
All of that is made up, except for the part that Alex needs money for one thing. If you take anything Alex says seriously, he filed those lawsuits long ago. And the gloss globalists are just refusing to cover them because the media is so controlled.
Jordan
True.
Leo
He's either lying now or back then, or most likely both. Yeah, but if I'm supposed to believe this, then I have to accept that Alex Jones, the greatest champion of the Bill of Rights in human history, had his fundamental rights violated by the state, which led to a years long court battle and a complete character assassination. He has every right to sue, to be made whole again and have his day in court. But he's deciding not to because someone in the Justice Department told him not to. They just asked. Nice. I'm supposed to believe that patriot ass Alex Jones is willingly suppressing his right to stand up for his own rights because someone in the federal government asked him not to. That does not make sense. Come on, man.
Jordan
Well, I mean if what he's saying is about the, the order, because I, I'm fairly certain that it was supposed to, the judge was like, hey, seriously, we gotta shut this shit down. Right?
Leo
Um, yeah. No, there was nothing barring it from happening.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
I don't, I don't believe that. I don't think the order was exactly for like seize.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
It's just that it all could be seized. Sure. If the families and plaintiffs make that motion.
Dan
Right.
Jordan
And if, but if they're not doing that, then I, maybe Alex is being helped by somebody in the Justice Department.
Leo
Well, look, I don't know. I don't know. And I have no ability to speak to any of that because I'm as confused by the non action as anybody. I look at this and I'm like, what the fuck? What Are the impediments.
Jordan
Oh, no, I've stopped being confused a long time ago.
Leo
Sure. Well, yeah, here's the clarification I would make on that. Yeah, I stopped being confused, but I'm confused about what's specific.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
You know, like, I don't know the explanation, but I'm no longer all that confused by the fact that this. This foot doesn't come down on his neck. But, like, I don't think. I don't think that anyone in the Justice Department needs to be blocking that.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
And at the same time, what he's saying is that the Justice Department told him not to file his lawsuit.
Jordan
Right, right, right, right.
Leo
So, like, I just don't buy that.
Jordan
I see, that's the thing. I don't think any of this is true. But if what he's saying has a kernel of truth to it, then the only thing I could think of that could be true from this distillation would be that that guy, he knows near the. Yeah, yeah. Was like, don't do these kind of annoy people things that put us into court and let us do stuff where we're not in court.
Leo
Yeah. You know, and the fact that there was like, what appeared to be the beginnings of a harassment campaign, there was intimidation on the part of Ed Martin towards.
Jordan
He has connections.
Leo
Yeah.
Dan
Right.
Leo
It doesn't mean that there's any actual process that's going on, but it could be like, people could be scared.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
No.
Jordan
And I'm. I mean, I would. I would absolutely accept as somebody who is near the department going like. Like, don't file these frivolous dumb lawsuits. You're gonna lose, idiot. As him being like, the federal government has warned me not to. You know what I'm saying?
Leo
Or Ivan Raichlin telling him. Or some dumb suit.
Jordan
Absolutely, absolutely.
Leo
He thinks that, like, Patrick Byrne coming in is like the CIA giving intel.
Jordan
Right, right, right. So. Yeah. It doesn't mean anything is really there.
Dan
No.
Jordan
But it. Ah, yeah.
Leo
Mens. Rea. It speaks to the state of mind.
Jordan
Okay.
Leo
That Alex has.
Jordan
Right. I gotcha.
Leo
I don't care what's real. Yeah. If the federal government could ask him to not file a violation of my rights lawsuit.
Jordan
Yes.
Leo
He can't be him.
Dan
Right.
Jordan
That doesn't work. You couldn't. You. You. By definition, you would have to all of a sudden be like, well, whatever it was that I was doing is now just being mad at you for saying that.
Leo
Hey, guess what? You fell right into my trap. You're trying to get me to stand up for my rights.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm getting more. I'm going to do more of that.
Dan
Yeah, gotcha.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Leo
Anyway, let's go back to some calls.
Jordan
All right. Because, well, his listeners are really on it so far.
Leo
And this guy, he gets it.
Jordan
Okay, great.
Leo
He's from Chicago.
Jordan
Oh, no. Robert, we exploded.
Dan
Go ahead. You're on the air worldwide.
Caller
Hello.
Dan
Yes, sir, go ahead.
Caller
Hey, Alex. We spoke a few times before. I hope all is well. And I know life's crazy right now in Chicago. I guess the previous person was going to talk something about this. I'll bring this up as well. A Muslim invasion is kind of an understatement. They've been doing this for a while. And things that have been going on in Minnesota, I've seen firsthand not just in Chicago, but an entire community. When I was living in Washington. That was actually the last time I talked to you on the phone. When I was living in Washington, I moved back here to help take care of my mom. And it's a completely different place. It's a third world country. There's people with. With posters in their. In their apartments saying, hands off Chicago. You know, like there's. I'm the most uncomfortable I've ever felt. I am statistically a minority now completely here. It's. It's. It's pretty wild. And those. The homosexual.
Dan
I don't.
Caller
I don't want to mean to go deep into that, but there are. I'm not even. I'm a minority within the white community. Even if there is one considered in the city of Chicago now. The outskirts.
Jordan
The city of Chicago. Not white enough. News flash.
Dan
Well, it's certainly getting more intense. And you can see the footage all over Europe. All over where. Where all the city centers are nothing but Muslims.
Leo
Yeah, man. Okay, cool. Shut up.
Jordan
Yeah, I took a walk in Andersonville and I guess the whole world's gonna end.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Oh, my God.
Leo
I live on Halstead and get the fuck out. I Addison in Halstead, and I think that the city's too gay. Yeah.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
Okay.
Jordan
Yeah, that's. That's terrible. I mean, what. What kind of fucking asshole. What kind of as in Chicago, if you. The idea of you being like, oh, I'm a minority and fuck off.
Leo
I chose the wrong cross street. I should have chose Cornelia. I realized that Addison is too close to the stadium.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
Allstead and Cornelia.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Anyway, look, dude, shut the.
Jordan
Well, now the stadium. What are we doing? What are we doing here?
Leo
Hey, so look, I. I don't know. What? This guy's off. I don't know what he's dealing with. And I think he should go out more.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah.
Leo
Anyway, he tries to get Alex to give him a job and Alex is like, we're broke.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
So the Scholar is a negative on Trump. Sure. And they start to get to talking about how maybe it's time for civil disobedience.
Jordan
Okay.
Caller
I've been watching for a year and, you know, I see, I see this whole Bondi and Patel and Bongino doing absolutely nothing. You know, I see real ID getting rolled out. I see all these things he campaigned against and nothing is happening. I'll pass on his first administration. Maybe he didn't know, you know, that he was being sabotaged behind his back. But now I'm not giving him that, that break anymore.
Dan
Well, I'll tell you this.
Leo
The big tell is where are the.
Dan
Where are the indictments? Where are the indictments?
Caller
Exactly right. Where are they?
Dan
She.
Caller
He's let, he's let Bondi sit up there for a year doing absolutely nothing, but. But polishing her fingernails. Like, where are the indictments? I don't think they're coming. I think we have to look at a post Maga movement. It's not going to be done through the ballot box. It's just not.
Dan
It's too rigged.
Caller
There's no voter, you know, no new laws to.
Dan
I'm starting to think it's time for Americans, and I mean white, black, Hispanic, that are red, white and blue at a certain point, civil disobedience and I mean, don't comply with any of the laws, I mean, that are civil. We don't go out and rob and steal and kill and sign up for fake welfare. But we. People just stop paying their taxes. We stop complying. We stop doing anything. We don't support any leftist groups. We don't talk to leftists. We don't go in their businesses. I think people hang up at their businesses, you know, an American flag with something like America only or something. And then we just totally. We totally have an exodus from their system now. I think that's really it. We have to become completely hardcore, 100% innovative ideas.
Jordan
Here's what we do. We build separate water fountains. No one's ever tried this before.
Leo
Americans only.
Jordan
Americans only. Obviously. I mean, it's not racial anymore. It's just that Americans are going to be white and non Americans are going to be everybody else, including white liberals.
Leo
Well, so, yeah, you got to be red, white and blue, baby.
Jordan
I mean, I suppose that One of those is the skin color they're fine with.
Leo
Racism is just, you know, civil disobedience.
Jordan
I also, if you're them, you can't, you can't go back. Civil disobedience is a step backwards, you guys. January 6th. Now you got to step it up and the law of escalation is what it is.
Leo
Yeah, it's unfortunate. You, you played yourself.
Jordan
Thor is not going to go back and fight like a lonely guy in the middle southwest or whatever. Now we're in space.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
There's no going back.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
We've already seen you storm the Capitol.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
I think we'll respect.
Jordan
Shut up.
Leo
We'll respect a sit in if you.
Jordan
I wouldn't respect a sit in.
Leo
I to mind my business. Sure, sure.
Jordan
I wouldn't bother him. That's fair. That's fair.
Leo
Yeah. Even if Alex was yelling in a store or something like that and just being like, you know, peaceful non resistance or whatever.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Because he feels oppressed for being white. Sure. Like it's annoying as shit, but just here's what, you know what you do.
Jordan
Here's what I say you do to the, to the Nazis. Listening. I'm sure there are so many. Burn down the White House as a, like, like the way that Buddhist monk would self immolate in, in Vietnam. Burn down the White House. Show everybody that white people are under attack by burning down the White House. That's what I think they should.
Leo
Seems like Trump is kind of working on that.
Jordan
That's what I'm saying.
Leo
I mean we are knocked down part of it.
Jordan
Literalize it.
Leo
So I also think that there's some real like loaded language going on here. And this caller says that we're not going to get it done through the ballot box. This is an obvious reference to the patriot expression. It's through the ballot box or the bullet box, you know, the ammo box.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
So like when he says there's not gonna be a way to do through the ballot box, he's not talking about like, hey, let's not shop at Amazon.
Dan
Right.
Leo
He's talking about shooting people.
Jordan
You should have to, I mean, listen, now that we are where we are, that used to be a like extreme thing. Now you should have to back it up. Like, what's your fucking plan? In what world are guns going to help you?
Dan
Right.
Jordan
Like that's not going to help in this situation.
Leo
I think it can hurt.
Jordan
Exactly, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
Leo
And I think for people like them, a lot of times hurting feels like helping.
Jordan
Yeah, that is, that is A fair point.
Leo
So Alex is saying, like, we need to get these American only businesses, right? And I don't know if he's clear enough about whether that means whites only.
Dan
Well, that's right. We're under attack. They've told us we're under attack. We have to. And this is what happened. The black community under Jim Crow, that was terrible and wrong, but that was stronger. Look at the numbers. Blacks had lower in lower illegitimacy than even whites, like something like 5%. They own their own hotels, doctors, clothiers, stores, everything. And then the left got mad. There's. There's articles written about it and said, oh, we'll just put the women on.
Jordan
Welfare, kick the man out.
Dan
And look what it did. So we're, we're being put on reservations as conservatives, Christians and whites and others. I say we embrace it and do what Louis Farrakhan says blacks should be doing. And we just say, fine, we'll have our own banks, our own. All these whites that want to run to the countryside and hide. And as anybody else wants to run from this, that's, that's not going to work. No, you got to create your own businesses, your own banks showing everything, and other people are welcome to use them. The point is, is that we all know those are businesses that are pro America. And that's really the model. I'm serious.
Leo
Yeah, I know, I know. You're.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
You're fucking serious.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
It doesn't seem clear what he. He means exactly. Like what his.
Jordan
Here's what's crazy about this. And again, what's so weird is how often that I keep hearing similar things as from, from the past. Because it's like if they did that right, and then other people were like, okay, you can do that. And then other people built successful, flourishing businesses while there's floundered. They wouldn't go, ah, we have lost in the marketplace of ideas. No, they would go up, burn down every fucking buddy else's shit so they can have it. Because these people are psychopaths.
Leo
Yeah, this kind of played out exactly that way in the story that Alex is telling.
Jordan
Yep, the literal, exact story.
Dan
Yeah. Great.
Jordan
Doing great.
Leo
So anyway, Alex takes another call and they're on the same page that it's time for plan B. Sure. Trump is not working well now.
Caller
My point is we're all just going to have to stand up and do it. It's not going to come from our ballot box. Our officials are too corrupted, they're too compromised and they're not going. They're not fighting for us.
Jordan
It's obvious.
Caller
So we got to figure out plan B. I don't know what that is, but. But we got to figure out.
Dan
Well, that's what Flynn and I's main conversation was about for him went on air was plan B. I mean, we had to start planning plan B because, you know, Trump didn't do this. We brought him in and he's doing a lot of good overall, but it's not good enough. I agree. We got to start planning. Plan. Great point. Yeah.
Leo
As we start, we got to start planning shooting people in the streets.
Jordan
Their, their plan Bs are always so great because it's impossible for them to do the one plan B that would make any sense, which is just like, hey, maybe we should just set it down for a second and talk to the other guys and get rid of Trump and then pick it back up and then we'll just do it. None of them say that. None of them have ever said that.
Leo
I think fundamentally one of the problems is that folks like Alex don't really have a plan A.
Dan
No.
Leo
And they're kind of lying about what they want.
Jordan
Ye.
Leo
And everything changes from day to day pretty much. There's no continuity. So plan B means nothing.
Dan
Right.
Leo
Because tomorrow you're not going to give a fuck about any of this stuff.
Dan
Nope.
Leo
Tomorrow Maduro is going to be kidnapped.
Jordan
Not just that. Trump is going to be the greatest again. It's so crazy. It's so crazy how quickly it happens.
Leo
There is no way that Trump, he's not getting it done.
Jordan
Oh my God.
Leo
We need a plan B. Well, flash forward, everything's great.
Jordan
Everybody is killing it right now.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
I mean, literally.
Leo
So Alex has a guest on this episode and it's a guest who. I wouldn't call him the angel of death, but I do think that his presence is ominous. He is the fella who talked about how they needed to storm the Capitol a little bit before January 6th and then had to disappear from Alex's show for a little while.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
A guy who likes to write books about how race war is coming. Great fella named Matt Bracken.
Dan
The balance the hour. The great Matt Bracken, former Navy seal, bestselling author, great researcher, counterterrorism expert enemies, foreign domestic dot com. We can go wherever you want. First, the great awakening to the Somali fraud. The Democrats obviously use him as bagman. The Russia, Ukraine situation. Trump saying if there's any dead protesters, we're going to start hitting non nuclear sites. Total war with Iran, Venezuela, the domestic operations. You can Go anywhere you want. Matt Bracken, my old friend. So much to pick your brain about today.
Matt Bracken
I'll tell you what, Alex.
Jordan
This.
Matt Bracken
The last couple of weeks, I'm feeling like 2025, as crazy as it was. 2025 was just like the Romans or Medieval Times cranking up a catapult.
Dan
Catapult.
Matt Bracken
They just been cranking that catapult back. You know, it's creaking. You're wondering what. When it's going to just go off? Because I feel like 2026 is the. Is the catapult energy release. Everything we've seen in the last year has just been setting us up. We're on the cusp of war in so many places.
Leo
Yeah. One specifically tomorrow. So I don't think that Matt Bracken knows anything. I just think that he talks hard shit. And Alex sometimes is in the mood for hard shit.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
To be talked.
Dan
Right.
Leo
And coincidentally, he ends up being on the show near monumentous events and saying hard shit.
Jordan
I mean, he. Bracken, does engage in stick talk. That's definitely true. Yes, that is definitely true.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
His website is called Enemies Foreign and Domestic. Less emphasis on the domestic part these days.
Jordan
Do you want to know what my biggest pet peeve? Pet peeve is now in 2026. How is it possible. It's 2026. We were all trapped inside for years. How is it possible for so many people who do regular media appearances to not have at least a moderately okay microphone?
Leo
Because I don't think Matt Bracken does a lot of media appearances.
Jordan
He doesn't do a lot of media appearances, but you know what mean?
Leo
I think he's squarely in the weirdo on a webcam territory. I don't think CNN's given him a call. I don't think he's ever. Let's say he's never had to put on a lav of.
Jordan
Of all the things that this man can't do, it's go to the fucking Guitar center and get a $150 microphone.
Leo
No.
Jordan
Get a microphone, man.
Leo
No.
Jordan
Fucking do it.
Leo
150 bucks for a microphone Or a couple more bullets.
Jordan
That's the problem with bullets. They're so fucking expensive. Yeah, it's microphones or bullets.
Leo
And you always need more. It's a sound investment.
Jordan
If you buy a microphone, that's less metal to make more bullets. So really, you're making other bullets more expensive by buying a microphone.
Leo
Right.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Economics.
Jordan
I get it. It's how economics works. Yeah.
Leo
Yep. So the two of them are talking, and they're Very clearly thinking that Trump is going to attack Iran. And geniuses kind of think that attacking Venezuela would be falling into a bad idea.
Dan
Well, listen, Matt Bracker knows what he's talking about. And Trump's absolutely rise to get us out of these wars and focus on our economy, but he's being lured in. I'm no fan of Venezuela, but it's still a trap. And I ran a fan of them, but it's still a trap. And conventionally, everything Matt's saying is true. Israel hopes to get us in, our ships burning, to have the US get pitched. We go to full commitment and we start obliterating Iran. Then Russia's probably going to come in. Ir, China, they got all sorts of secret stuff. They do have real sleeper cells across the West. It goes from bad to worse.
Leo
Okay. So I think I. One of the things that I want to just stress is, yeah, Alex has no fucking idea what's coming. Yeah, he has. It's not even like he's playing some cards close to the vest. Yeah, he has no idea. It's funny.
Jordan
Yeah. I mean, it's. It's wild. It's wild to. It's wild to know that those two days can be so close to each other.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Know that, that, that dividing line between when one reality was and when the new reality began is very strange.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
So Matt Bracken, he. He's got. He's got some complaints.
Jordan
Does he? Yep, I imagine so.
Leo
He does not like pirate thieves, robot.
Jordan
Sure. That's. I mean, listen, if real, I would totally respect that. That would be a thing to. I wouldn't like pirate robots either. Yeah, but they are not real.
Leo
So he complains about Somali folks in Minneapolis for a bit, and it's.
Matt Bracken
And it's a complete circular kickback fraud. Bring in 100,000 Somalis, drop them straight into the capital of a Scandinavian state, and the red Green alliance means they Democrats win forever because the Somalis will vote as a bloc, 100%. They get the money for the bogus daycare centers and health care centers that don't ever open, that have cobwebs on the door. They get millions, they kick it back to the Democrats.
Dan
That's what's going on.
Matt Bracken
Our tax money is enriching Somali pirates who then kick half of it back to the Democrats to stay in power. And Trump is talking about going to war in Venezuela, going to war in Iran. I think he's lost his mind. I mean, every time I see the White House, there's more gold on the walls.
Dan
No, I Agree. It is getting crazy.
Leo
Pretty crazy.
Jordan
Who could have fucking seen this shit coming? What kind of goddamn genius would you have to be to be able to read one thing 20 years ago? Crazy.
Leo
Yeah. Nuts.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I don't. I don't know, man. I. I think that I just. You know, as we get into the 1100s of episodes.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I start to try and come up with new ways to say, man, this guy sucks.
Jordan
This guy sucks.
Leo
But it kind of really just boils down to, this guy sucks.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Bracken sucks.
Jordan
I mean, Matt Bracken is just a piece of shit. Like, the. The. The thought process, because that's the thing that I like. I think in the abstract, a lot of people can understand a guy having this thought, you know, that. That idea of a guy being like. But you have to execute it. There are so many steps. You have to buy the URL for enemies, foreign and domestic. So you've committed. You have to do all of these things. You have to get a thing with fucking Squarespace. And then when you get kicked off Squarespace space because you're a Nazi, you have to go to another company. There's all these steps where at any point in time, your brain could have just gone. We could stop.
Leo
We could stop.
Dan
And I think.
Leo
You know what? I hate to. I hate to project, but I would say that if I were Matt Bracken and I was talking some mad shit about how everyone needed to storm the Capitol on January 6th.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And then that ended up happening.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And Alex had to, like, not talk to me for a while. I would reflect.
Jordan
Mm.
Leo
I would. I would. I would take that as a moment to be like, what is it? What am I bringing to the table?
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I would ask some hard questions, and I don't think the Bracken's done that.
Jordan
Yeah. I think that's. I think that's the problem. Timeouts only work for people who do not need timeouts.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Hmm.
Leo
It's. It's unfortunate because he might shave that damn mustache while he's in there. That timeout put.
Jordan
Put him in a corner with a mirror, and eventually the mustache will come. Yeah.
Leo
So Matt Bracken has some other things he wants to talk about other than his hatred of other folks.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
And that is that he likes Barron Trump. Guy's pretty cool.
Jordan
What are we doing?
Leo
He's pretty cool.
Matt Bracken
You know, Barron Trump, I think, has his ear to the ground of the. Of the, you know, Gen Z, much more than the Jared Kushner's, which I think are just. Just pure, sold out, you know, 100% in for themselves. He's like 50, you know, they'd love to get some.
Jordan
Of course he's not in with Jet Z.
Matt Bracken
Meanwhile, we're going to make all the real estate deals on the side to benefit our families. It's disgusting and, but I think that, you know, Barron Trump and others that generation, Savannah Hernandez, young people like that, they're furious. They can't even afford rent.
Leo
How pathetic has the right wing media become that they're trying to cast opposing archetypes out of Trump's children? Jesus Christ. Barron is the good son who has his finger on the pulse of the working class, but his brother in law is a no good type of guy who just wants to make business deals for his family. Jared's all about himself, but Baron gets it.
Dan
He can barely pay rent.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Don't you understand? This is paycheck to paycheck. This Baron Trump, this is the thing.
Jordan
This is the thing. Like, I don't get how this is considered still like calling something a Scandinavian. Still state to me that's un American. You should be fucking. Are you kidding me? A Scandinavian state. How do you not even understand how stupid that is? Because you don't. But then there's this, like, I don't get it. I don't get it. To me, there's one thing that should unite all Americans and that's royalty can get and anybody who's royal can go fucking die. Right? That's what we are.
Leo
I think that's a little red, white and blue.
Jordan
But then this little motherfucker is like, oh, the prince is a good boy.
Leo
Can I give you a key that might unlock this whole mystery?
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I don't have the clip, but at one point Matt Bracken does say that his wife complains that he's on Twitter too much. So I think that might, might have something to do with.
Dan
Could be.
Jordan
Could be a hair.
Leo
So if I saw somebody on MSNBC sincerely trying to argue about Obama's daughters and they're like, what they stand for in terms of, of like opposing politics.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I would hope that their show got mercy canceled because this is just fucking sad.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Matt Bracken is almost 70 years old and he was a Navy Seal, so he is almost certainly taken a human life. The fact that he wastes whatever precious time he has left whining to Alex about Trump's kids is disrespectful to whoever he's killed in the past. They had.
Jordan
He took a promising life. They had a promising life. And if. Yeah, they add, that sucks. You really do you really should have to earn it retroactively?
Leo
See, this is me trying to come up with new ways to say he sucks.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he sucks. He sucks throughout time. Yeah, he sucks throughout a family tree.
Leo
We know nothing about the people that he killed, but we do know what he's doing right now.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And it, I don't know, I, I, I don't know how it could be worse.
Jordan
Yeah, man.
Leo
So anyway, Matt Bracken's complaining about how like, we're at the end of the empire type moment, right? You know, where like all the oligarchs are drunk on power and stealing everything. Sure, except it's not Trump who's stealing everything.
Jordan
Do you mean the oligarch who's drunk on power stealing everything? Isn't the oligarch who drunk on power stealing anything?
Leo
No, it's immigrants.
Matt Bracken
And meanwhile they're bringing in Somalis and Indians to take your jobs. This thing in Texas with the bank of Texas, which is all going to Indians to take over the entire hotel, let's be clear.
Dan
Bright market analysis, and I checked it, 70% of all H1B visas are from India and over 80% of those are from one little area. It's literally a tribe that came in 40 years ago, bought off the politicians. And it's not even just Indians, it's only that group.
Leo
Group.
Matt Bracken
Yeah. We're in the end of an empire. Oligarchs looting the treasury stage. There are people that are comparing this to the 1990s in Russia where, you know, you had drunk Boris Yeltsin put in by our, our own stooge oligarchs.
Dan
And I agree. Trump won't be our Vladimir Putin.
Jordan
Who will what?
Matt Bracken
That at this point we don't vote our way out of this. I think that the structural election fraud is too deep. Deep that, you know, it's, at this point, I don't think it's reversible. I think we're going to wind up at, I say there's like four men with the little mustaches or big mustache.
Dan
Exactly. How did they not know starting war with Russia and China would start killing the dollar?
Leo
The Trump dipshit media folks are learning an incredibly hard lesson, and that is that they never really wanted power to begin with.
Jordan
Nope.
Leo
Being in charge means you have to do things. You can't just yell about things you imagine on your podcast because the world keeps moving, moving. Trump's term, his first one, that was pretty fun for them because it was fresh and the blue haired people they hated were crying and they Got charged out of that. That's very exciting.
Guest or Additional Commentator
It was good.
Leo
He was new to politics, so any horrible decision he made could be blamed on inexperience or bad staffing decisions. And even if he didn't get anything done in office, it was super easy to pretend that he could have done everything you dreamed if only those pesky globalists hadn't been in the way. He was impeached. So that caused a lot of drama and created built in excuses for why he wasn't doing any of the big shit he was supposed to do, like lock up the satanic pedophiles or release the magic healing technology.
Jordan
There's tons of great palace intrigue with people being on one faction and the other. Oh yeah, it was great.
Leo
And then he lost in 2020, and that was perfect for them too. He got robbed. The victimhood complexes were in overdrive and every single thing that happened was evidence of deeper and deeper conspiracy. Him being out of power was exactly what they needed because it gave another great excuse for why he wasn't getting anything done. But now here we are in 2026. Trump is president again, the Supreme Court has mostly been appointed by his dumb ass, and the GOP controls all of the government. He couldn't get impeached if he tried. And yet all of the stuff that Alex and his dipshit friends want him to do isn't getting done.
Jordan
What?
Leo
There's really no excuse now. Now, if all of your shit isn't happening now, there isn't some variable you can pretend needs to be adjusted. It's just not gonna happen. This is the reality that Matt Bracken is stripping bare and Alex's audience is starting to discuss. There is no political solution to their problem. There's only violence. They think that there's no political solution to their problem because the fraud is too deep or the system is too rigged. But the reality is there's no political solution to their problem because their problem has never been political. Their problem is anger. It's hate, it's resentment, it's entitlement. There never has been a political solution for their problem. It's just that Alex's business model relies on pretending this is about politics. Political disagreements are okay to have and you can still respect someone you don't see eye to eye with on some policy preferences. But the shit that Alex needs his audience to accept is far beyond that. This is a straight up hate program. And the reason it's allowed to continue is because Alex pretends that it has something to do with politics and now that none of it is getting anything politically done, they are out of excuses.
Jordan
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it's the. It's the clearest sign of any kind of cult thinking is just the idea, well, okay, well, this doesn't. Didn't work. So the only thing we can do is violence as opposed to, like. Well, I mean, sure, we have political parties and we could just. Just vote and then the different person would be president for a while, and then we'd vote again, and then there'd be a different person for president and then we'd vote again and we'd be, no, they can't. Not for a single second. Because if you've got so clearly inundated with the lesser of two evils, even though Trump is worse than anything you have ever described any other president doing, somehow at the end of it, you'll go, but at least he's not a Democrat.
Leo
He's not Kamala Harris.
Jordan
Right, Right.
Leo
He put on the Ring of Mordor. Isn't that Harris?
Jordan
But at least he's not somebody who would just be pretty annoying and bad most of the time, but at least we'd still have a country or whatever.
Leo
Yeah. It's not somebody that I can't project my power fantasies onto, but, you know.
Jordan
It'D be better for us is if it was somebody who is competent and bad. Because then we could be angry all the time without ever having to deal with the fucking consequences of our actions.
Leo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex and Matt Bracken are unfortunately realizing that the most stable state of affairs for them is, like, right after Waco.
Jordan
Yeah. Yep.
Leo
That's where they stand to gain the most in their business model.
Jordan
Yep. And. But in order. But in order for them to grow, more people have to be Nazis. And eventually, once enough people are Nazis, they think, why not have a Nazi government? And then here we are.
Leo
It's unfortunate.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
For everyone.
Jordan
For everybody everywhere.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
So there's a tension that's going on. I mentioned it on our last episode, I believe, but there's this sort of break going on between Candace Owens on one hand and Laura Loomar on the other. And it has to do with Candace saying and making accusations about Turning Point usa, people being involved in Charlie Kirk's killing. And Alex has come out pretty strongly against Candace to the point where he's, like, making fun of her and calling her out and all this shit. And Matt Bracken doesn't like her actions either.
Dan
Oh, and then separately, you mentioned Candace Owens. I know you've been a fan. So have I. Clearly heard what you could thing. This, this, this Mitch guy. I can't believe she got mad at me for warning him about it. Now they've doubled down. They say it don't matter if he beat up his wife a bunch and, you know, lied on video.
Matt Bracken
There are people that. There are people that are so far into the rabbit hole they can't even see the surface. Right. They're like in THX 1138, you know, they don't even know there's a surface anymore. If, if like a meteor hits China, they'll blame the Jews. Right. I mean, no matter what. And I get it. The caller plan, all of that.
Dan
I understand you've been criticizing Israel since I knew you 20 years ago, but it's become totally mentally ill. Like, it just. Everything is.
Matt Bracken
And sure, there, there is a. There is something to the quote, unquote cosmopolitans that benefit by going into a country and stirring up trouble. Right? Because if you've got a country that's stable with a stable banking system, them, there's no room for an outsider to just come in.
Dan
Well, there's no doubt. There's no doubt Israel's doing evil stuff. But. But, yeah, but, but exactly. Because Candace says it's Israel. They plan the killing. There she goes. No, I didn't say that. Yeah, you did. Then I've got to believe a known liar that they all have alibis. I think there was people helping kill Kirk. And so my point is this whole story hurts the truth.
Matt Bracken
Yeah. And. And I just want to warn people to not go down rabbit holes.
Leo
Yeah, don't do that. Imagine Matt Bracken.
Jordan
Imagine trapping yourself into a space where you can't just go, oh, yeah, it's dumb to think that Turning Point USA also killed Charlie. Charlie Kirk. That's dumb. Guys, let's move on. Nope.
Leo
I think, I think Matt Bracken has a very interesting point, which is some people are too rough on the Jews. And also, hey, the international Jew kind of had some points.
Jordan
Sure, sure. The caller plan was correct in every possible way, but you don't have to go on about it.
Leo
Right.
Jordan
We can keep it just below the sur. Nervous and then exterminate. You know what I'm saying? We'll do it quiet.
Dan
Yeah, yeah.
Leo
This sucks.
Jordan
Yeah, this really does suck.
Leo
He sucks.
Jordan
He sucks.
Leo
So they, they finish up their interview and Alex signs off for his Friday show. And you would never think that Maduro was about to be captured, right? If anything, he's just interested in attacking Somalians and trying to stir up fear about Trump attacking Iran. But then. Then Trump went and kidnapped Maduro and decided that we're gonna run Venezuela for a little bit. So Alex had to come in on his day off and do a special show about how shit had gone down.
Jordan
My God.
Leo
So we start, and Alex just goes straight to Trump's press conference announcing the capture.
Guest or Additional Commentator
The Alex Jones Network is tomorrow's news today.
Dan
All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is Saturday, January 3, 2025. Trump just went live from Mar Lago, so back it up. I just went live 20 seconds ago. Back up the live feed. We're gonna go to Trump right now with his announcement. You're supposed to be speaking already 30 months ago. We're here with live coverage. This is so historic from so many angles to break down what's coming next, but here is President Trump right now. Let's go to him.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Late last night and early today, at my direction, the United States Armed forces conducted an extraordinary military operation in the capital of Venezuela, Overwhelming American military power. Air, land, and sea was used to launch a spectacular assault. And it was an assault like people had not seen since World War II.
Leo
World War II. So first thing to point out, the voiceover talent for the Alex Jones Network bumper is a massive downgrade from the infowars. One that sounded like shit.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
I don't know who they hired, what board operator they got to do that.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
But it's trash.
Jordan
That was a guy who. That was his third or fourth job to do.
Dan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leo
That was on a checklist.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Second, I don't know what Trump is trying to say about this being an assault like no one has seen since World War II. Hmm. All of Vietnam, both Gulf Wars. Sure. Trump topped it all.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
What?
Jordan
Yeah, yeah. I think he's talking about Pearl Harbor. I think he's saying we just did a Pearl Harbor.
Leo
Do you remember Sleepy Joe Biden being a nickname?
Jordan
I recall that.
Leo
Yeah. Semen comes off strange now.
Jordan
Man, it's so funny. It is so funny to have this happen and to know that you could be living in a country and every single person in that country could just be like, man, I wish that guy hadn't missed when he shot Trump in the face. He could have just ended all of our problems so fast.
Leo
Such a weird breaking point in history. Weird paths diverging.
Jordan
It is very much so.
Leo
So Trump, he's talking, you know, he's talking about this great, biggest, biggest attack, hugest assault, like, never seen.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And it happened when it was dark outside, right? It was real dark.
Jordan
Oh, my God.
Leo
And maybe they made it dark? Who knows? It was nighttime.
Guest or Additional Commentator
As the men and women of our military, working with US Law enforcement, successfully captured Maduro in the dead of night. It was dark. The lights of Caracas were largely turned off due to a certain expertise that we have. It was dark, and it was deadly. But captured. Along with his wife, Celia Flores, both of whom now face American justice, Maduro and Flores have been indicted in the Southern District of New York.
Leo
So Trump is very clearly trying to insinuate that the military carried out a cyber attack in conjunction with the operation, which knocked out power and surveillance capability so the troops could get to Maduro. Yes, it was a pretty quick in and out job to capture Maduro. That is fair enough. But there's still a lot of questions about what happened and what happens next. For instance, if we pretend that snatching him up was about some crimes his government committed, then it seems weird that Maduro's vice president is now the president of Venezuela. Yeah, she's been a part of both Maduro and Hugo Chavez's government, so that seems like a bad fit for the next head of state. In fact, the main difference between her and Maduro seems to be that she has a record of making clear to the west that she wants to make deals.
Dan
Huh.
Leo
This is all going to go bad, but it could take a while to escalate. The current president, Delsey Rodriguez, is in a horrible spot where she knows that Trump will straight up kidnap her if she isn't sufficiently accommodating of U.S. interests. Yeah, but she also knows that if she just acts as a Trump puppet, the existing power structure in Venezuela will likely collapse, at least into a coup.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
She only holds value to Trump because she represents a potential for stability for U.S. oil companies. Much more so than hand picking a new leader or doing a new election. But there are strong indications that the opposition party probably would have won if the 2024 Venezuelan elections hadn't been stolen. So she might not have a ton of popular support. Therefore, most of her power comes from the same regime that's been in power under Maduro. And they aren't going to be thrilled about the idea of Trump just running the oil markets. Hmm. Rodriguez being too deferential to Trump threatens the stability that she needs to offer value to Trump. So it's kind of an awful cycle.
Jordan
You know, it's interesting. It's so funny that we've never been in this situation before. Definitely not with the Shah of Iran in almost identical circumstances.
Leo
This is a bad spot, but it's one that may not blow up immediately. It might, though. I have no idea. I can't tell.
Jordan
I mean, Iran went great beyond the.
Leo
Domestic troubles that's gonna come from this. Trump is obviously gonna make impossible demands for Rodriguez to fulfill as relates to agreements Venezuela has with China, Russia and Iran. Yeah, so this sucks. I mean, it's just I don't care about Maduro. I don't totally. I don't lose sleep over him being taken out of power or arrested. Uh, but the circumstances here are messy.
Jordan
Here's. So like, I get it. Because we have a United States centric point of view on the world, it can be hard to like, zoom out or, or even like go somewhere else and zoom in from their point of view. So where I'm taking this is from a more positive point of view, which is to say that I think Iraq should kidnap George W. Bush. I. I'm all for it. Right.
Leo
Don't know why any international court should. Could be against that at this point.
Jordan
Go for it.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
I mean, I'm all for it. Right. If we're going to live in the new world order, I'm going to adapt.
Leo
But how many other countries did Bush bomb? Or how many countries did Obama bomb?
Jordan
Free for all. On all of them.
Leo
Right.
Jordan
Let's go fucking nuts. I hope all of our world leaders kill each other and then everybody else left behind will be like, thank God we don't have to deal with those assholes anymore. They're trying to kill us and all.
Leo
I don't think that's great.
Jordan
Probably not.
Leo
I don't know. I don't know what legal justification we would have to be like, oh, no, they can't do that.
Jordan
They can't do that. Here's our legal justification, the same one we have for doing this, which is we will blow everybody up and there's nothing you can do about it because the guy is fucking crazy.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And I also think that. I think we would be pretty fucking delusional to think that they could pull off an operation like this without some complicity of the Maduro regime.
Jordan
Yeah, no kidding. How did, how did they know exactly where they were to be? Yeah, well, some sort of. Oh, my God.
Leo
And I wouldn't be too surprised now if maybe.
Matt Bracken
New president.
Jordan
What? No, listen, do you think she might have had some sort of advanced knowledge of this particular type of situation? What is she, some sort of fourth estate journalist or some sort of faction.
Leo
Within the government that may be friendly towards her? You know, sacrificed Maduro to the Trump machine?
Jordan
Whatever happened, it went down more like the wire.
Leo
Yeah, yeah.
Jordan
He got stringer belt.
Leo
It's a change in management. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Alex is kind of into this.
Jordan
Sure, fuck it, why not?
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yeah, many helicopters. Many incredible, incredible people involved in that fight.
Dan
I've talked to people, Bullet, but think of that now. Special Operations. They hit thousands of targets in five minutes.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Service member was.
Dan
And then. And the commies were all just hit at once. So they just destroyed.
Guest or Additional Commentator
And most fearsome military on the planet. By far.
Dan
Thousands of drones in the sky. Thousands.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Our enemies can scarcely begin to imagine. We have the best equipment anywhere in the world.
Dan
Skynet.
Guest or Additional Commentator
There's no equipment like what we have.
Dan
And you see that the good guy.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Even if you just look at the boats, you know we've knocked out 97% of the drugs coming in by sea. 90%. Each boat kills 25. On average, 25,000 people. We knocked out 97%. And those drugs mostly come from a place called Venezuela.
Leo
I guess Skynet's good now, so that's fun.
Jordan
We've learned a lot.
Leo
What's also fun is that if you pay attention to the continuity of Alex's show, then he has to think that Trump is lying to the American people in this press conference conference. The whole drug boat thing was a facade because. Convincing the public to support shooting down boats because the 2020 election conspiracy stuff, that was too hard to sell. Now Trump has escalated things and kidnapped the president of a country, and he's still basing it on that lie. The character Alex has pretended to be shouldn't be okay with this behavior, even if he likes the outcome. No, it's a. It's a bad. He put on the Ring of Mordor.
Jordan
At the very least, you should say Trump fell into a trap, right?
Leo
Well, he did yesterday. He said that yesterday.
Jordan
Exactly. Like this should be like a. Oh, Trump made a huge mistake doing the Venezuela thing.
Leo
Now this is too exciting.
Jordan
Yeah, Alex is too like a movie, which is probably why he did it in the fucking first place, is because it would be very movie cool, not because it has any fucking value at all.
Leo
Hey, you know what? Hold on to those thoughts when Pete Hegseth comes up. Swear to God, man, that guy's in a bad movie. Anyway, Trump. Trump just kind of, you know, always complain about how, like, Biden seemed to not know what he was saying and he would, like, repeat himself about it.
Dan
Sure, sure, sure.
Leo
Keep that in mind.
Guest or Additional Commentator
We're going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition. So we don't Want to be involved with having somebody else get in. And we have the same situation. Situation that we had for the last long period of years. So we are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition. And it has to be judicious because that's what we're all about. We want peace, liberty and justice for the great people of Venezuela. And that includes many from Venezuela that are now liberal, living in the United States and want to go back to their country. It's their homeland. We can't take a chance that somebody else takes over Venezuela that doesn't have the good of the Venezuelan people in mind and decades of that. We're not going to let that happen. We're there now. And what people don't understand, but they understand it as, as I say this, we're there now, but we're going to stay until such time as the proper transition can take place. So we're going to stay until such time as we're going to run it, essentially until such time as a proper transition can take place.
Leo
Man, he doesn't sound. Well, you know, like he just said the same thing like three or four times in a row. Yeah, he sounded lost. Yeah.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
The thing that he's saying is fucked up. That we're going to go ahead and run Venezuela.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And the way he's saying it is also fucked up.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
But hey, it's cool.
Jordan
I mean, you know, but that is, again, this is another. This is a great moment of losing ambiguity because not only is this not something that I could, did or would have voted for, but it happened without, I guess, anybody's vote.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Having any concept that this could happen. So let's just, let's just dispense with this. This is fucking nut. The idea of any kind of value to our vote having an outcome on policy is absurd.
Leo
Jordan.
Jordan
Yes.
Leo
If anyone had voted, Maduro would have heard about it.
Jordan
That's fair.
Leo
Can't do stuff like this if you vote now.
Jordan
That is fair.
Leo
It's too risky.
Jordan
I mean, it's just like. It's just nice to know that I genuinely have no responsibility for what my government does. The idea that I could have any responsibility for this infuriates me. How dare you think that I didn't even know this was possible.
Leo
Nope.
Dan
Nope.
Jordan
So I cannot be responsible for this.
Leo
I think, conversely, I look at it more like we're all a little bit responsible for this.
Jordan
No way.
Leo
Not, not specific. Like we didn't know.
Jordan
Sure. I would Say, listen, all right, everybody now knows, right, that the entirety of global world order can be upended because one man is insane. So if we're not going to do anything about that, that's on you.
Leo
But I think kind of felt that already.
Jordan
Exactly. It's just, this is so. It should have been handled by now.
Leo
Pretty fucking illuminating.
Jordan
It should have been handled by now. Of all the generations of human beings that have ever lived, this is not a new problem. Somebody should have handled it by now.
Leo
It's so funny to imagine the globalists exist, existing in the way that Alex imagines them and this happening. Yeah, it's so funny.
Jordan
Yeah, that would be a fun office day.
Leo
You're so fired. Everyone's fired.
Jordan
Fuck it.
Leo
Hey, Satan, come to office.
Jordan
What's the council of 12 up to on this day?
Leo
Hey, it's a council of zero now. They're all fired. Hey, Satan, don't sit down. You're not going to need.
Jordan
We're not going to need you. Yeah.
Dan
Eating.
Leo
Fired.
Jordan
Yep. You're going to be getting coffee from now on.
Leo
Go back to heaven. Jesus Christ. Suck at this devil thing.
Jordan
Yeah, you should still be an angel. You suck so bad. I hope God loves you again.
Leo
So Trump is pretty clear that wants that oil pretty immediately into it.
Guest or Additional Commentator
As everyone knows, the oil business in Venezuela has been a bust, a total bust. Us for a long period of time, for whom they were pumping almost nothing by comparison to what they could have been pumping and what could.
Jordan
So we're going to steal it.
Guest or Additional Commentator
We're going to have our very large United States.
Dan
The US built the refineries down there to deliver it to Houston. Houston's refineries are built for Venezuelan oil. It's a certain type.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure very thick, and start making money for the country. And we are ready to stage a second and much larger attack if we need to do so. So we were prepared to do a second wave if we needed to do so. We actually assumed that a second wave would be necessary, but now it's probably not. The first wave, if you'd like to call it that. The first attack was so successful, we probably don't have to do a second, but we're prepared to do a second wave, a much bigger wave. Actually this was.
Dan
Yeah, that's so they give up and have elections wave.
Guest or Additional Commentator
That probably won't have to do.
Leo
I don't make a habit of listening to a ton of long form Trump speeches, but I've watched a fair amount of them in my day and this One feels sloppy as shit.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
This. He is just repeating himself constantly and in ways that aren't engaging or interesting. And not saying things like, Hannibal Lecter likes to have friends for dinner or whatever the fuck.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Flourishes that he does.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
It's also way too obvious that he wants that oil.
Jordan
I mean, I. This is what interests me. All right? Because in my. In my head, right, you can be one of these journalists and not think you're dealing with a Bond villain. And when they're talking, because they talk like people, you know? And so you can be like, no, this is politics and we're doing a whole thing. Everybody's doing their jobs. Right. Because the idea of being within 50ft of a Bond villain and going like, what do you think? As opposed to, like, shooting them or something.
Leo
I don't.
Jordan
You know what I mean?
Leo
Yeah. I don't. I think everyone's got their own moral compass, and I don't want to prescribe.
Jordan
I'm not saying that they should or don't or anything like that. I'm saying just that from. From like a. Dreaming of who you want to be kid point of view.
Leo
Here's. Here's where I'm going to meet you in the middle. To imagine being there and asking him a serious question is insane.
Jordan
I would shit my pants.
Leo
You have to ask him something funny, right?
Jordan
You have to, like, what are we all doing here? If I'm. What do you think is next? Fuck off, you fucking coward.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Jesus Christ.
Leo
Can you give us some clarification on this strike? Right, that's. That's a waste of a question. Question.
Jordan
What is it, like in Candyland? Do you have Candyland friends or do you only speak English?
Leo
In Candyland, did you kidnap Lord Licorice in the dark of night?
Jordan
Right. What are we doing here?
Leo
Where's the peanut brittle?
Jordan
The idea of this being a human being to like and what do you. Fuck off.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Amazing. It's amazing.
Leo
Yeah. So Trump rambles a bit about how this was about the drug boats and stuff.
Jordan
Sure. Also, we all know that's a lie.
Matt Bracken
Right?
Dan
Right.
Leo
Anyway, Alex is like, skip it.
Matt Bracken
Skip ahead.
Jordan
Fair. That's fair.
Leo
Well, he doesn't realize he's on a hot mic, Right.
Guest or Additional Commentator
As alleged in the indictment, he personally oversaw the vicious cartel known as Cartel de las Solas, which flooded our nation with lethal poison. Responsible for the deaths of countless Americans. The many, many Americans. Hundreds of thousands over the years of Americans died because of him. Maduro and his wife will soon face the full might of American justice. And stand trial on American soil. Right now, they're on a ship. They'll be heading to ultimately New York.
Leo
He's not quite live with the press conference, and he's like, no, this is no good.
Jordan
I mean, I'm on his team. Skip it.
Leo
Skip it.
Jordan
This isn't going to be useful for us now.
Leo
Yeah, now this isn't. There's no oil in these, ironically, in this patch here.
Jordan
Keep digging.
Leo
So they go to commercial.
Dan
Sure.
Leo
Even though this is a commercial, free broadcast and there's no reason, there's no.
Jordan
Hard breaks, you got to go to commercial.
Leo
Sure. And so they regroup and come back and Trump is lying about crime.
Dan
Sure.
Guest or Additional Commentator
And I just have to congratulate our military, Pete, and everybody and our National Guard, because the job that they've done, whether it's in Washington, D.C. well, we have a totally safe city where it was one of the most unsafe cities anywhere in the world, frankly. And now we have no crime in Washington, D.C. we haven't had a killing. We had the terrorists.
Dan
Yeah. Violent crime down 98%.
Guest or Additional Commentator
A little bit of a different kind of a threat. But we haven't had a killing in a long period of time. Six, seven months. We used to have two on average, two a week in Washington, our capital. We don't have that anymore. The restaurants are opening. Everyone's happy. They're going. They're walking their daughters, they're walking their children, their wives. They walk to restaurants. Restaurants.
Dan
See, Trump's a hospitality guy.
Leo
He's a hospitality guy. He likes restaurants.
Jordan
Okay? So here's what I want to go back and relitigate this, all right? I think, and I don't, I don't want to relitigate it in the, in a different way. I just want everybody to repeat, reflect on how we should move forward. Right. Because after the, the missed assassination attempt, right. People are like, don't celebrate that. But we should all now just recognize that it's totally okay for you to go, like, fuck, he missed. That's fine, you know, because I feel like that's where we're at.
Leo
I, I, I, Sure, I think, well, here's where I'm going to meet you in the middle. If you're there in this press conference, throwing a shoe is the floor.
Jordan
Lowest floor. You should be forced to lose a shoe if you don't throw a shoe.
Leo
Yes. It's ridiculous to listen to this shit. I mean, the restaurants are open and they're walking.
Jordan
You're a human being. I understand that we're all having jobs, right? But take a step back and recognize that just because he's the President, it's an arbitrary title that we've given him. He is exactly like every other human being on this planet, as are you. You are equals under the eyes of whatever God you believe in. And in no way should you allow an equal to speak to you like this.
Leo
Yeah, and I don't think that a media entity should demand reporters act that way.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
But if you are a reporter and you don't have a bit of conscience in this moment, I don't know what you're doing there.
Jordan
I mean, we're not friends. I don't get it.
Leo
Anyway, Trump is also just lying. And Alex is reflexively doubling down on Trump's lie. According to the Associated Press, There have been 62 homicides in D.C. in the past six months, including 24 since Trump sent in the National Guard in August. Alex should really read that 1984 book he talks about all the time. On a very fundamental level, what we're listening to is the president of the country thanking the military and National Guard for how great a job they've done at domestic policing. And the dipshit who made multiple police state documentaries is looking for more boot to lift. This is crazy.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
This is such a, like, stark image of like. You're so full of shit, dude.
Jordan
Yep, It's. It should be on the COVID Alex Jones should. Licking Trump's boot should now be the COVID of 1984 while Trump is.
Leo
Has a speech bubble that says I love police state.
Jordan
I love police state for rise of female.
Leo
So Hegseth takes the mic.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
And man, this dude sucks.
Pete Hegseth
Words can barely capture the bravery and the power and the precision of this historic operation. A massive joint military and law enforcement raid.
Dan
Yeah, that's not hype.
Guest or Additional Commentator
It's.
Dan
It's so insanely. Nothing damaged. No one killed except them.
Pete Hegseth
American warriors are second.
Dan
Unbelievable.
Pete Hegseth
The best in the world.
Dan
It's actually scary.
Pete Hegseth
Of our country.
Dan
What I.
Pete Hegseth
What all of us witnessed last night was sheer guts and grit, gallantry and glory of the American warrior. I'm simply humbled by such men. Such men. And I tip my hat to our chairman Dan Raisin Cain and all those Americans who stood watch last night.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Our warriors.
Dan
Over a thousand targets in five minutes.
Pete Hegseth
President Trump.
Dan
They couldn't even shoot back and then grab.
Pete Hegseth
And no other country on planet Earth, and it's not even close. Could pull this kind of operation.
Dan
This isn't bragging. It's letting everybody know. Back off. Don't launch wars. Peace through strength.
Pete Hegseth
Courage and resolve the most powerful combination the world has ever seen. As the President said, our adversaries remain on notice. America can project our will anywhere, anytime.
Leo
Alex is celebrating the idea that this is about scaring the world. We're terrorizing the world.
Jordan
Yeah. I mean, great. You know, it. What make. What I thought of while he was saying that stuff is I thought of the new L stops. There's a new stop on Lawrence which had been shut down for a long time. And it's really great. It's a really good L stop. It's really pretty. It's well built. It's. It's all great. It is all fucking great. It's just a really well built civil engineering project, you know. And that deserves a statement, a press conference like that. It really does. It really deserves a lot of celebration.
Leo
People put a lot of work into this. It's really coordination.
Jordan
It's really cool.
Leo
Sure.
Jordan
To have a guy jerking off to murder is probably bad.
Leo
Yeah, yeah. And celebrate it like people are scared of us now.
Jordan
Oh, the American warrior God. Go shoot this dude into space. Are you kidding me?
Leo
Yeah. You're not gonna like this next clip.
Jordan
I bet I won't.
Leo
Yeah. Why don't we just be safe and mike down.
Pete Hegseth
This is about the safety, security, freedom and prosperity of the American people.
Dan
Look at overdose as soon as Trump got in. Is America first dropping like 30% is peace through strength.
Pete Hegseth
And the United States War Department is proud to help deliver it. Welcome to 2026. And under President Trump, America is back.
Leo
It's honestly shocking to listen to these guys because that sounds like a bad movie script. It's like how when you watch wrestling, you'll often be able to tell that the wrestlers are posing in staged images that are meant to be used later in a sizzle room. Like in the moment. It seems strange how much they're overselling. Being lost in thought, staring at the WrestleMania sign. But then you realize that they're just doing that cuz it's gonna look good in B roll later. That's how all the people in the Trump administration talk. Like they're dropping sound bites that are meant to be edited together to some epic meme later. Yeah, it comes off scary and very dorky.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Also, Alex should be careful about celebrating the overdose death deaths thing. Too much, too quick. Quickly. That huge drop started before Trump got back into office. And a large part of it probably has to do with Biden's FDA approving an over the counter version of naloxone, the drug that can reduce and reverse Opiate overdose.
Jordan
Right, right, right, right.
Leo
To no one's surprise, once Trump got back into office, his budget slashed funding for addiction and overdose prevention investments, which includes federal grants to make naloxone more available to first responders. So the downward trend of overdose deaths might not continue into the future. You don't want to take credit for this one yet, because I think Trump might fuck it up. Yeah, but, man, that hexa sucks.
Jordan
And. And that's like. They murdered people. Like, they didn't murder. They didn't, like, fight a guy off. They murdered people so they could kidnap the guy those people were contractually obligated to protect.
Leo
Well, to be fair, at a couple of points, they do say that a lot of the people they killed were probably Cubans, so. Hey.
Jordan
Right, right, right. So you murdered them.
Leo
Wow.
Dan
They didn't.
Jordan
That's not like they committed a crime. We weren't at war. There was no, like, attack. There was no push forward. You went to their lives and then ended them. They have families and all that stuff. And then you ended those lives for no reason other than your ego. And then you went on fucking TV and said, we're back. Yeah, fuck you.
Leo
Now let me ask you a question.
Jordan
All crime is legal.
Leo
Let me ask you.
Jordan
The fucking Purge begins today.
Leo
It's not a good idea. I've seen all those movies.
Jordan
Yeah, I know. They don't work well.
Leo
Yeah. Saw. Also not a good idea. Seen all of those now.
Dan
Not a.
Jordan
They're. They're bad pl. Movies are bad plans for, like, moving forward.
Leo
Here's the problem. Saw, you could argue starts with good intentions. The Purge does not. You can't even say that.
Jordan
Definitely started with bad intentions from the jump. Yeah. There was never going to be any good outcome from the Purge.
Leo
No. Saw. Jigsaw may have been misguided.
Jordan
Listen, there are ways to do what he did with less. Less physical damage. I'm just saying.
Leo
I have a very serious question for you.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
Did you think he was gonna say.
Jordan
I.
Leo
I really did.
Jordan
He intended it. He felt it. He felt it. Is. That was one of the things Paul F. Tompkins used to say about not swearing on. On stage when you're doing stand up is. If you mean the swear, you can feel it in there without actually having to say it. And you just adjust your rhythm accordingly.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
That guy put bitch in there twice. Yeah.
Leo
After 2026. It's 2020.
Jordan
I genuinely thought he said, It's 2026, bitch. I just assumed it happened.
Dan
I.
Leo
My body felt a. Let's fucking go.
Jordan
Absolutely. No, no, no. Absolutely thought.
Leo
We're on the channel.
Jordan
We're doing a fucking. God damn it. It's a football game. These people are fucking insane.
Leo
Yes. So this is a cool war.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
It's not a neocon war.
Jordan
I make.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yep.
Marco Rubio
You have a guy like many people around the world, they like to play games. You have a guy who decides he's going to invite Iran into his country, is going to, you know, do the confiscation of American oil companies, is going to flood our country with gang members, is. Is going to take Americans prisoner and try to hold them for hostage and trade him like he was able to do with the Biden administration. Basically likes to play games all the time.
Dan
The thug pushing us around. It's true, sergeant.
Marco Rubio
People now understand this. We have a president the 40.
Dan
This ain't a neocon war. This is Thomas Jefferson style.
Marco Rubio
Tells you that he's going to do something when he's good. Tells you he's going to address a problem. He means it.
Dan
That's what this is all about. To the rest of the world, like I can tell you, America is back on this foreign policy. Trump's doing great domestic. We the same energy here, getting rid of the filibuster.
Marco Rubio
I don't understand yet how they haven't figured this out. And now, if you don't know, now you know, because this is the way it's going to play out. And I think people need to understand, understand that this is not a president that just talks and does letters and press conferences and, you know, if he says he's serious about something, he means it. And this is something that was a direct threat to the national interest of the United States, and the President addressed it. There's a President of peace, by the way.
Leo
Oh, yeah, sure. President of Peace. Marco Rubio seems to be talking a bit tougher than I remember him being in the past. Yeah, he feels like a nerd who got beat up by the cool kids a bunch and then showed up one day wearing a leather jacket. So they adopted him as their mascot. This is ridiculous.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
Yep, yep, yep.
Leo
Also, Alex seems to be forgetting the years he spent calling Rubio a huge Neo con. I get that when a wrestler gets a new gimmick, you're not supposed to remember their old character or else it breaks kayfabe. But this is a little fucking stupid.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Rand Paul has also come out and said that Lindsey Graham, the king of the neocons, according to Alex, was behind the decision to take out Maduro, that he was the impetus behind it.
Dan
Great.
Jordan
Is that the doctor of Thuganomics speaking, or is this the John Cena word Life?
Leo
Now, look, all of the people that Alex seems to pretend to be against are weirdly on his team on this one.
Jordan
Seems strange.
Leo
The neocons are all super in favor of toppling Maduro. Multinational corporations are into it. And here's what his arch rivals over at Blackrock said in their corporate analysis. Quote, U.S. president Donald Trump's remarks highlighted that the administration doesn't see this as regime change, but a leadership change, leaving Maduro's top lieutenants in place with no clear political or military plans for what comes next. We see plenty of uncertainty ahead, but this may not matter much to global markets. Trump kidnapped a foreign president and Blackrock said, who gives a shit?
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
Not a big deal.
Dan
Wow.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Weird world. What a weird time to be alive. I think. I think a lot of people in their generation, in their time experience a lot of weird things. Things, man. I feel like in the past six years we've experienced a lot of shit.
Leo
No. And you know what's fucked up? You could have said that on the second.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
On January.
Jordan
Still could have seconded it.
Leo
Still could have said invalid and real.
Jordan
Too much. Too much has happened. I demand everyone slow down. One thing can happen for the next year, then two things can happen a year after that, and if we earn it, we can do three, but otherwise it's back down to one.
Leo
Yeah, we're. We're half past. Come on now. And we're getting dangerously close to cooling.
Jordan
Hey, hey, hey.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
All right.
Leo
So the reporters start asking some questions.
Jordan
Oh, my God. Of.
Leo
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Jordan
No, no, no. I just like. I just like to listen to people who thought they could look me directly in the eye as an equal. And those people do not exist in the press anymore. Look, none of them know who. None.
Leo
I don't know who any of the people.
Jordan
Zero.
Leo
I don't know who any people are. But one of them wants to know, what does it mean when you say we're going to run Venezuela?
Dan
The US running the country mean that.
Leo
US troops will be on the ground?
Guest or Additional Commentator
Well, you know, they always say boots on the ground, so we're not afraid of boots on the ground if we have to. Have we had boots on the ground last night? At a very high level, actually. We're not afraid of it.
Jordan
Are you touching yourself right now, sir?
Guest or Additional Commentator
But we're going to make sure that that country is run properly. We're not doing this in vain. This is Not. This is a very dangerous attack. This is an attack that could have gone very, very badly. Could have gotten very badly.
Jordan
Do you still have hairy legs?
Guest or Additional Commentator
A lot of people last night. We could have lost a lot of dignity. We could have lost a lot of equipment. The equipment is less important, but we could have lost a lot.
Jordan
How's Jimmy Fallon do?
Guest or Additional Commentator
We're going to make sure that this is proper. We're there now. We're ready to go again if we have to. We're going to run the country. Right. It's going to run very. Almost said company viciously, very fairly. It's going to make a lot of money. We're going to give money to the people. We're going to reimburse people that were taken advantage of.
Jordan
Sir, did you know your nose is growing Very important.
Guest or Additional Commentator
We couldn't let them get away with it. You know, they stole our oil. We built that whole industry there and they just took it over like we were nothing. And we had a president that decided not to do anything about it. So we did something about it. We're late, but we did something about it. Yeah.
Jordan
Explaining the exact mechanism by which you're going to run the country. Are you going to designate you.
Guest or Additional Commentator
You being done right now? We're designating people. We're talking to people. We're designating various people and we're going to let you know who those people are.
Pete Hegseth
Mr. President.
Jordan
What's the group you mentioned that would run Venezuela?
Guest or Additional Commentator
What's large going to be for a period of time? The people that are standing right behind me, we're going to be running it. We're going to be bringing it back. It's a. It's a dead. You know, I talk about a dead country. A year and a half ago, we were a dead country. Now we're the hottest country anywhere in the world. We're a country doing better than any country anywhere in the world.
Leo
It's pretty unacceptable to imagine that you're going to get an answer that means anything because the message is pretty fucking obvious. And that is. Is like, I'm in charge. Yeah.
Jordan
What are we doing?
Leo
I run this shit.
Jordan
I see. Because it's okay. I get it. They think they are what they are, but now they're just laundering the game. Now they're just legitimizing all of this stuff in a way that is just. I mean, listen to the credulous.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
I don't think that society can function if the media has that. Those people can't touch something like what Trump is doing.
Jordan
Out. You're gone. You're gone. Bye.
Leo
It. By pretending that this is something that can be engaged with this way.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
You are aiding in the destruction of the thing that groups.
Jordan
Are you going to a point instead of like, hey, you're a fucking psycho. What is happening? You're destroying the goddamn planet. What is going on, you lunatic.
Dan
Right.
Leo
There's another way to say that, but.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leo
You can't, you can't.
Jordan
No, no.
Leo
He talked for like a minute straight now of nonsense that is.
Jordan
We're doing a post game press conference. This is like, hey, what are you going to do on your defense for the next game? What do you. How are you going to prepare the fucking quarterback to. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is their.
Leo
So the, the new president of Venezuela immediately after this shit went down. Yeah, she was pretty clear like, hey, let him go. This is no good. And then Trump came out at a press conference and is like, she's gonna play ball. And then she kind of does. Kind of does.
Jordan
Of course she does. What else are you gonna do? We're gonna back Machado to come back.
Leo
And be the opposition.
Jordan
Later in your Fox and Friends interview. And then you also mentioned the Vice president of Venezuela.
Leo
Are you gonna work with vice president.
Jordan
Of Venezuela or how do you foresee the relationship?
Guest or Additional Commentator
Said she was just sworn in, but she was, as you know, picked by Maduro. So Marco is working on that directly. Just had a conversation with her and she's essentially willing to pay.
Jordan
I'll kill you.
Guest or Additional Commentator
We think it's necessary to make Venezuela great. Again, very simple charging Mr. President. So former President Vestavo Petro, you know.
Marco Rubio
A couple weeks ago he said he's.
Leo
Got to watch his ass.
Jordan
And today he said he's not concerned.
Marco Rubio
About anything happening to him in the.
Dan
Aftermath of this operation.
Leo
So just what your messages?
Guest or Additional Commentator
Well, he has cocaine mills. He has factories where he makes cocaine. And yeah, I think I stick by my first.
Jordan
Sir, are you a cartoon character?
Guest or Additional Commentator
Okay. They're sending it into the United States. So Mr. President does have to watch.
Jordan
Mr. President, still.
Leo
Mr.
Jordan
Still.
Leo
It's really hard to pretend that international law or national sovereignty mean anything at this point. Like, Trump is holding a press conference about how his administration planned for months to secretly take out a foreign head of state without approval for from Congress. And while talking to reporters, he seems to be explicitly threatening the president of Colombia.
Jordan
You bet.
Leo
It seems painfully clear that the message is that the vice president of Venezuela can be in charge as long as she knows that Trump is actually in charge. And if she forgets that she's going to get kidnapped like the President of Colombia might.
Jordan
We have decided to return to East India Tea Company policies and we will be raping and pillaging messaging everywhere with stuff we want.
Leo
It's. It is a mess.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah. No good.
Leo
Now I was worried about the idea of not like informing Congress or getting approval.
Jordan
You know, I mean that would be it. It would be very cute if he did that now. It would be very cute.
Leo
You know, boots on the ground. Heavy boots on the ground.
Dan
Sure.
Jordan
They're supposed to be laws or something.
Dan
Yeah, yeah.
Leo
But thankfully Marco Rubio steps in and clears this.
Jordan
That's nice. Notify any members of Congress in advance.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Marco, do you want to talk about that? Because you were involved.
Dan
Sure.
Marco Rubio
We call members of Congress immediately after. This was not the kind of mission that you can do Congressional notification on. It was a trigger funny in which conditions had to be met night after night. We watched and monitor that for a number of days. So it's just simply not the kind of mission you can call people and say, hey, we may do this at some point in the next 15 days. But it's largely a law enforcement function. Remember at the the end of day, at its core, this was an arrest of two indicted fugitives of American justice. And the Department of War supported the Department. Department of justice in that job. Now, there are broader policy implications here.
Leo
Yeah.
Marco Rubio
But it's just not the kind of mission that you can pre notify because it endangers the mission.
Jordan
Then you can't do it.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Congress has a tendency to leak. This would not be good if they leaked, General. I think it would have been maybe a very different result.
Leo
Why tell Congress anything then? If telling Congress about stuff like war and international policing is going to get in the way of you doing whatever you want. Yeah. You should just not tell them anything. The Republicans in the House aren't going to impeach Trump for anything. And if the Democrats win in the midterms, they're going to impeach him no matter what. So why, why bother?
Jordan
Congress does not exist as it stands.
Leo
If the President can carry out months long plots with the CIA and the military that culminates in arresting a foreign head with of state and at no point he's required to run it by our elected representatives, then we don't have a representative government. This is bullshit.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah. I mean just dissolve the. Dissolve the Congress. Why not? I'm. I'm bored with pretending that they matter.
Leo
Roll the bones on the midterm.
Jordan
Absolutely. Fucking go Palpatine on us. Dissolve the Congress and then just move on. Palpatine did fine. If it weren't for Darth Vader getting cold feet at the end, Palpatine would have been so smooth sailing.
Leo
We talk about this a lot. Yeah, he had lightning. He could shoot lightning.
Jordan
Darth Vader's just like, oh, I don't want to kill my son. Fucking you killed up everybody kill your son. And then Palpatine's fine. Like, Listen, Donald Trump Jr. Isn't going to be helping anybody take down Emperor Palpatine, so you're probably going to be fine.
Leo
But Baron might. He's a good kid.
Jordan
He's a good kid.
Leo
He gets it. He knows what the kids are dealing with.
Guest or Additional Commentator
With.
Leo
He had to eat soup for a semester straight.
Jordan
Oh, my God, what are we doing?
Leo
So, Trump, one of the things you can't take away from him is that he says he has a perfect record on wars.
Pete Hegseth
Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President.
Jordan
The US has something of a mixed track record of ousting dictators. Go kill yourself. Necessarily a plan for what comes afterwards. Did that weigh on your decision?
Guest or Additional Commentator
We had different presses, but with me, that's not true. With me, we've had a perfect track record of winning. We win a lot and we win. If you look at Soleimani, you look at Al Baghdadi, you look at the Midnight Hammer. Midnight Hammer was incredible right now. You wouldn't have peace in the Middle east, essentially peace in the Middle east because of that. If you didn't. If we weren't successful with Midnight Hammer, you wouldn't have peace in the Middle East. So with me, you've had a lot of. A lot of victory. You've had only victories. You've had no losses yet.
Jordan
Can you. How long do you expect the US to run Venezuela and how soon do.
Guest or Additional Commentator
You want the Venezuelan people to hold elections? So I'd like to do it quickly, but it takes a period of time. You know, we're rebuilding. We have to rebuild their whole infrastructure. Infrastructure is rotted. It's actually very dangerous. It's, you know, blow up territory. Oil is very dangerous. It's a very dangerous thing to take out of the ground. It can kill a lot of people. It has killed a lot of people doing just that. The infrastructure is all shut up that we put there 25 years ago. And we're going to be replacing and we're going to take a lot of money out so that we can take care of the country.
Pete Hegseth
Mr. President, China, Russia and Iran have interests in Venezuela, how does this operation.
Leo
Affect your relationships with them?
Guest or Additional Commentator
Well, in terms of China and Russia, very strong message when we get things straightened out. But in terms of other countries that want oil, we're in the oil business. We're going to sell it to them. We're not going to say otherwise. We'll be selling oil.
Jordan
Oh, well, then we have to stop you by, I don't know, law or something.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Large amounts of oil to other countries, many of whom are using it now. But I would say many more will come.
Leo
What an asshole. Also, I think that clip is really wild because you kind of forget that Alex is listening with.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah.
Leo
He pipes in.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Why aren't you interrupting all the time? You constantly interrupt everybody.
Dan
Yep.
Jordan
He, I've never listened to that.
Leo
Yeah, nuts.
Jordan
When a horse hornet gets into the bees nest, right? The bees don't fight back with like punches, they just jump on top. Like, enough bees on top of the hornet will solve the problem right? Now, I understand that there are many limitations, but if instead of being morons, everybody in the press corps just jumped on top of him, maybe the problem would go away. But I am, I swear, I'm gonna find some of these people. I'm going to email some of these people. People to tell them how much they fucking suck and are stupid. That should be embarrassing.
Leo
I think, I think worse than that, you might feel inclined to interview them and that, that's worse than you yelling at them.
Jordan
Well, because I'd eventually try and make them cry.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yeah.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Look, I, I just, I don't know. I, I, I just think you can't, you can't go along with this.
Jordan
Yeah, I'm, I'm being angrier than.
Leo
No, I know.
Jordan
You know, but like, and I, I get it.
Leo
No, I get your reaction. You just can't. Yeah. The bottom line is that like, yeah, you have to walk out or something. Something like, I don't know.
Jordan
How long do you expect to be there? Is the single most offensive question that you could ask from a like, the rest of us are real people standpoint.
Leo
No, I think there's another one that comes later that might. Jesus Christ topic.
Jordan
I bet it was well up to this point, that is the one that bothers me the most because you already know the answer is however the fuck long I want and I don't fucking know. Yeah, right.
Leo
And as long as the oil companies need. Absolutely.
Jordan
How dare you ask that question? Here's the question. You're a thief. That's not even a question. That's what you should say.
Leo
So I'm going to, I'm going to cut through some of this shit because a lot of it ends up being like the Venezuelan vice president who's now president. She's cool.
Jordan
It should be against the law for you to say we're in the oil business. If you're the president and you just stole a country's oil, that should be against the law.
Leo
Sell a lot of it.
Jordan
That's great. Crazy.
Leo
So Alex does end up interrupting Trump here, which I thought was really weird.
Pete Hegseth
Okay, Mr. President, why is running a.
Jordan
Country in South America America first?
Guest or Additional Commentator
Well, I think it is because we want to surround ourselves with good neighbors. We want to surround ourselves with stability. We want to surround ourselves with.
Dan
Foreign powers are coming in and overthrowing these governments. Cuba took over Venezuela 20 years ago.
Guest or Additional Commentator
The world. And we want to make.
Dan
This is our hemisphere. This is not a neocon war. Still wasn't overall for. Because it could go badly, but it's going well so far.
Leo
It's interesting that so far, Alex has let most of Trump's answers play out with not that much interruption. That was really the first time that it felt like he was stepping on Trump's answer strategically. And it feels like he doesn't trust Trump to answer. Well, yeah, as like a, hey, this is an America first, then.
Jordan
Yeah, because it's not.
Leo
Right.
Jordan
So whatever makeup you, whatever bullshit you make up for, Trump is going to be bad because then he'd have to be like, at the very least beholden to pretending that he said it at one point in time.
Leo
Right. He's going to end up, like, saying something about the drug boats, which you already said was a lie.
Dan
Right.
Leo
Or he's going to say something about taking all the oil, which you probably.
Jordan
Shouldn'T, shouldn't really be that upfront about. But again, ambiguity sucks. So I'm. Hey, listen, we all know who's the good guy and the bad bad guy here.
Leo
Yeah, yeah. So Trump and Marco Rubio in this next clip make it pretty clear that, hey, Cuba, we're coming.
Jordan
Yeah, great.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Cuba is, you know, not doing very well right now. That system has not been a very good one for Cuba. The people there have suffered for many, many years. And I think Cuba is going to be something we'll end up talking about because Cuba is a failing nation right now. Very badly. Failing nation.
Dan
That's what this is all about. I'll explain in a moment.
Guest or Additional Commentator
It's very similar in the sense that we want to help the people in Cuba, but we want to also help the people that were forced out of Cuba and living in this country. Do you want to say something about that? Marco, please.
Marco Rubio
Well, I mean, I just gave you a statement a few minutes ago about, you know, when the president speaks, you should take him seriously. Suffice it to say, you know, Cuba is a disaster. It's run by incompetent, senile men. And in some cases not senile, but incompetent nonetheless. It has no economy. It's in total collapse. And by the way, you know, they were, you know, all the guards that helped protect Maduro. This is well known. Their whole spy agency, all that were full of Cubans. I mean, they basically. It's amazing. This poor island took over Venezuela in some cases. One of the biggest problems the Venezuelans have is they have to declare independence from Cuba. They tried to basically colonize it from a security standpoint. So. Yeah, look, if I lived in Havana and I was in the government, I'd be concerned at least.
Dan
Are you cutting off the oil flow to Cuba from Venezuela?
Marco Rubio
Well, the president already announced a week ago that anything that's sanctioned, it's sanctioned oil, it's not going to be allowed to get there.
Leo
So that's Trump in the background is like. Yes. He's just cutting through it. Yeah. So I guess they're going to. They're going to kidnap some. Some Cubans.
Jordan
I mean, I don't know. I don't know how you even bother trying to, like, navigate through that as if you're not just out. Not threatening Cuba. Yeah, right.
Leo
And you already threatened Colombia.
Jordan
Yeah. Like just having a country's name at that press. Press conference. I'm. I'm out.
Leo
This is intensely belligerent.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah. Yes. It feels an awful lot like another country and some period in time deciding to take shit from all the people nearby. And then we had to fight a whole goddamn world war about.
Leo
It does not feel dissimilar. And it's weird how there are those echoes in other places of Alex's.
Jordan
So strange.
Leo
Oh, well, so strange. So here's that worst question.
Jordan
Yep, here we go.
Leo
Because I think that this is a little passive aggressive.
Jordan
Oh, yeah. Can you explain? You said that Maduro is responsible for drug trafficking. You recently pardoned the former president of Hong Kong who was convicted in many drug trafficking. Can you explain how these two situations are different? And would you ever pardon Maduro?
Guest or Additional Commentator
I endorsed, as you know, the winning president, the man who won in Honduras. I endorsed the man who won in Chile. I endorsed the man who won in Argentina. And we are doing very well. With that whole group, what the man that I pardoned was, if you could equate it to us, he was treated like the Biden administration, just like Balaam.
Dan
You need to protect him. Pressure on Brazil.
Guest or Additional Commentator
A man who was persecuted very unfairly. He was ahead of the country. He was persecuted very unfairly. And there are a number of them. And we felt that it was a very unfair situation that happened to him.
Dan
So.
Leo
Trump recently pardoned the former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernandez, who is convicted of trafficking tons of cocaine into the United States.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
He and his brother Tony were charged with being in a conspiracy with the Sinaloa cartel. And kind of glaringly, Tony is still in jail.
Jordan
Huh.
Leo
Some people might look at the circumstances and see that Trump pardoned Hernandez about a day before the Honduran general election, which was polling at a statistical tie.
Jordan
Weird.
Leo
It might point out that the Hernandez brothers were convicted of accepting millions upon millions of dollars in bribes that directly went to funding the political party he headed. And that after Trump pardoned Hernandez, the person running on that party's ticket pulled ahead by the tiniest margin.
Jordan
So weird.
Leo
Ended up winning the election.
Jordan
So weird.
Leo
Some people might see that kind of stuff. Stuff. And think it looks sketchy. Nah, it's cool, though. Alex is not suspicious about this sort of stuff.
Jordan
I don't. I don't think you're wrong in that. It's a worse question. I do think that it was handled poorly. This is actually the first time that I'm going to criticize Trump over a member of the press, because the answer to that question is, shut up, nerd. Get this guy out of here.
Leo
Yeah, probably. But I think that. I think that the reporter probably. I think they're happy with themselves. They think it's clever.
Jordan
Wow. I know, right? Like, that's.
Leo
That it is a little clever, but. Nothing's cleverer than a shoe.
Jordan
Aren't you a hypocrite? Jesus Christ.
Leo
So, look, man, this is a really, you know, all about Cuba, and apparently now we're going to try and get everybody on board with, I'm leaving Cuba.
Jordan
If I'm in the Cuban government, I'm.
Dan
Saying stuff during the press conference. Then Rubio says it's 10 seconds later. The average American still doesn't know the players here. You need to know, you know, how many governors, you know, how many mayors, you know, how many prosecutors, how many judges are on the Cuban payroll, in the Venezuelan payroll. Yeah. They're failed states. They take everything from the people, but they have incredible wealth that they project for control. Bass, the mayor of LA, admitted Cuban intelligence agent. Then about 20 years ago, she says, I'm sorry, I'm not a communist anymore. I'm sorry I was an intelligence agent. So you don't want us to be involved in our own business, in our own backyard? Well, somebody else will be.
Leo
If there's so many politicians who are secret Cuban agents, it strikes me as odd that the only person Alex ever comes up with is LA Mayor Karen Bass, who isn't a Cuban agent.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
She traveled to Cuba in the 70s and 80s and has said positive things about Fidel Castro in the past. But Alex can't prove that she's ever been on their payroll, has ever been a communist. And I challenge him to produce this apology she apparently gave 20 years ago for being an intelligence agent.
Jordan
It would be weird.
Leo
What we got going on now is that Alex feels pretty comfortable that he has pacified his audience to be okay with Trump and his actions in Venezuela.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
And now he's trying to normalize Trump doing the same thing.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
To all sorts of other countries.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And it's fine because it's our hemisphere.
Jordan
Okay. All right, so let's do it. All right, so we take the whole hemisphere. All right. We got all of South America. Now where are we going to get our fucking drugs, man? From the same goddamn place. We're just going to sell them to ourselves.
Leo
No, Trump's friends are going to sell them to you.
Jordan
Well, that's a good point. That's fair. That's fair.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Again, we're just going to do our own drugs.
Leo
Yeah, you're going to get Trump, Kaine.
Jordan
And we're not going to get them for a cheaper price, man, because it's going to be less competitive competition. This is anti capitalist. That's my real problem here. This is against the free market ideology that I ascribe to.
Leo
It's against small business owners.
Jordan
I want my cheap cocaine.
Leo
So Alex, you know, he wants to take out Cuba, you know, like we do, but also maybe Mexico too.
Dan
Sure. It's about taking down Cuba, it's about taking down the corruption in Mexico, it's about stopping the drugs flooding in. And the Venezuelans are just absolutely celebrating everywhere. Now if Trump didn't leave the government in place, it's been oppressing people, but still has the infrastructure, it would descend into total collapse. He's got to get the, he's got to get the infrastructure turned back on, crank up the funding. He can get these big corporations to commit to go in with major aid projects, major hiring projects. Does. He's a hospitality guy. He looks at that and goes, God, we can build a lot of Trump towers and golf courses down there.
Leo
Yeah, no shit. That's what he thinks. I mean, so also, Alex is currently playing a fake video that someone found.
Jordan
On Twitter of fake Venezuelans cheering the fake.
Leo
Well, no, there were some that were going around. There were, like, straight up fakes. This is just old.
Dan
Sure.
Jordan
Gotcha.
Leo
Yeah. It's just out of context. And Alex has no idea because he's a Twitter recap show.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
Okay.
Jordan
All right, so now we got Mexico, we got Venezuela, we got Cuba. Let's call Honduras on. At least, like, on our team.
Leo
El Salvador is on our team.
Jordan
El Salvador for sure on our team. I guess it's basically like Brazil has to unite the western side. Hmm. To take back the east and then march up through Mexico in order to be greeted as liberators when they invade the United States.
Leo
Pincer move from Greenland.
Jordan
Absolutely. We got the Canadians coming down from there.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yeah.
Jordan
I think we could do it. I think we could convince the rest of the world to invade us.
Leo
We're doing a great job making a case while Trump is also. Alex says that they need to take over Brazil, too.
Jordan
Sure. Well, I mean, hey, listen, you know, time. You. Obviously, you got to take over Brazil, but you can't get there yet. Brazil's too big.
Leo
Yeah, yeah. So Alex has seen this video on Twitter that's not real. And he makes up a little story about it.
Dan
At first, the middle of the night after the attacks happened, a few hundred would show up here, a few thousand there. Then by. By. By dawn, you can hear everyone celebrating from their windows and screaming and celebrating, you know, from the starvation and death and oppression. And then by the morning, there were millions of the streets. Let's roll. Start over with audio. Here it is.
Leo
When you know that Alex has been fooled by an old video he stumbled across on social media, you have to then recognize that he's making up everything he's saying. The idea that it was quiet after the attacks, but then hundreds, then thousands of people began to gather and celebrate. None of that's based on anything other than the story he wants to tell. This is his fantasy of how the public would respond to Trump liberating them. So that's what's true. It's important to understand that this is actually the process that information goes through for Alex. There's a narrative that he's come up with in his imagination that's profitable for the audience to believe, and every data point that he Encounters will be presented in a way that supports that narrative. He doesn't care about the truth about these data points, what's real and what's not. The video could be real or fake. That doesn't matter in the least. And that's what the information war is.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
There aren't rules of engagement.
Dan
Nope.
Leo
This is what he does.
Jordan
And it's. It is like, very clear the. The connection of, you know, go straight back to right speech is right action kind of thing. Like we are the result. We are living in the result of people treating the information war and the way that they did, you know, and now it's bled out into the rest of it. There were no rules of engagement.
Leo
No. I think that there are in normal society.
Jordan
That's what I'm saying. Yes.
Leo
But Alex is an info terrorist.
Dan
Right.
Leo
He does not follow any rules of lying or correcting or taking responsibility for the bullshit and. And. And hate.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
And pain that he causes people. People. He is killing civilians in information war.
Jordan
Yep. 100%.
Leo
And I think that people. You're correct that people made the mistake of assuming that he understood Geneva Conventions of information. Right. Right. And they. They, to our own detriment. We have acted that way.
Jordan
Yeah. Oh, well, agreed.
Leo
So this next clip really sucks. Sucks.
Dan
Great.
Leo
And it's Alex justifying why Trump needs to keep invading US Cities.
Jordan
Great.
Leo
With the National Guard.
Jordan
Love it.
Leo
Because otherwise people will stop being scared.
Jordan
That'll happen.
Dan
We have crime in the major cities plunging some of the highest murder rates ever just a few years ago now, lowest murder rate in 50 years. Just because there's an idea that criminals can't run wild. Actually, they still can, but. So when cops don't know if cops will park empty police cars in the roads, you sleep, slow down. It's. It's, you know, oh, a few hundred troops here and there. People go, oh, the criminals go, it's not safe. That's how dumb the criminals are. Hate to tell them, you know, it's like a scarecrow. So the crows don't eat the. Eat the corn. You got to still move the scarecrow around every few months, put new clothes on or they learn it's not really a person. You know, I. You go to Home Depot, you can buy owls and eagles and put them on your house so a bunch of birds don't, you know, sit on your roof or whatever you want. You don't want a bunch of grackles, you know, attacking you when you're on outside or most. A lot of people have water systems off. Their roofs. You get water from the roof, but the buzzards sit on your house. I live out in Dripping Springs and we had a rainwater collection system and there'd be like 10 buzzards sitting on the metal roof by the house. And then crap. And then the buzzard goes into your thing. You don't want to do that. You had filters, but it wasn't good enough. Well, buzzard's protected, so you can't shoot them with a shotgun. So I just stuck owls up there, plastic owls, and they, they stopped coming. Then about six months later, all of a sudden they're sitting around next to the owl because they figured out it's not alive because it's not moving. You got to move the owl. So look what Bukele's done in El Salvador. Most dangerous country in the world now. Save us in our hemisphere in just four years. And they just put the corrupt judges in jail. They put the gang leaders in jail. They call them a dictator. No, he's elected with 85%.
Leo
To be clear, Alex is saying that Trump needs to send National Guard and military into cities to terrorize the population in a rotating fashion so the criminals stay scared. They need to keep the image of troops on the street fresh and alive in criminals heads so they don't commit crimes. And this is called leadership, not psychological warfare tactics that are employed by dictators.
Jordan
Sure, sure.
Leo
I will say that Bukele does have some suspiciously high approval ratings. Ratings. Hmm. There's no way around the fact that he's putting up numbers you usually only see under occupation. But I think that if Trump keeps going the way he's going, he could top them. We're going to see those potential.
Jordan
I think he's going to get up to a 95 to 98% approval rating very soon.
Leo
I think that there might be some mathematical impossibilities in how popular Trump becomes.
Jordan
I would say that polling places should really get on board with the truth right now. Otherwise they're going to be really unhappy when they're public publishing lies.
Leo
Trump is going to be huge in the under two year old set. They're going to be very popular, baby. Anyway, goose those numbers. So we got to move on now and it's time to, I don't know, fucking liberate Brazil now.
Dan
We got to liberate Brazil from the communists and all their election fraud. So this is truly the return of the American Republic. It was done very, very professionally. Just absolutely amazing. I am, I am really stunned right now. But we got a lot of big adversaries A lot of big things we're gonna be watching, you know, to see what unfolds and what happens on that front. Yeah. Let's hear from Megs here. I'm gonna take a break. I've been in here for an hour and a half and I want to hit the boys voice room and then I want to come back and, and talk about domestically what's unfolding, what we can expect next. But this is really, really a big deal. But, but just briefly, you understand that freedom isn't free. You understand we're in a war with the globalists, the deep state. And when you go to realloxjones.com that's a mirror. It's the same shopping cart as the Alex Jonesworld.com the Alexander Store.com funds Infoway wars that is embattled and we're not sure about its future. And that's a whole other story. And there's a state receiver. They said they're gonna have a sale, but it takes them forever. And I don't know. And it's just, it's crazy. And it's great to support us@thealexandore.com but all the same products, including a lot that sell out@thealexander.com they hold back like knives and you name it. Why the selection of Patriot apparel? I told him I just want a straight up Christian line of stuff, you know, just to promote Christ and you know, let everybody know how you're put.
Jordan
Sell it in the temple.
Dan
We're Christians, so hat I design. Pretty simple, but nice. It's all available atreal Alex Jones dot com.
Leo
Yeah, we're, we're selling these knives to promote Christ.
Jordan
Oh my God. Jesus.
Leo
I mean, I just don't even know. I mean it speaks for itself.
Jordan
I.
Leo
Prick.
Jordan
Baby. That's, that's, that's rough. That's rough.
Leo
Let me, let me put a little bit of ointment.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
On you here.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
Because this next clip is kind of funny.
Jordan
Okay.
Leo
And I'll just give you a little bit of a heads up.
Dan
All right.
Leo
Alex confuses himself while listing off his fake companies that he needs to juggle things between. And it's a little fun.
Jordan
That's fine.
Dan
And again, there's a lot of items that have sold out at the auction store.com that are available right now at reloxjohns.com stuff is sold out at the officers who are calm relish jones.com and I need your support, folks. We are maxed out.
Leo
So I think that it's pretty Clear. What's going on based on what Alex has described, which is he got in trouble for never directing people to the Infowars store.com because you didn't have access to that money was in the bankruptcy.
Dan
Right.
Leo
So now that is the real Alex. No, the Alex Jones store dot com. Bigley runs that.
Dan
Right.
Leo
But that money goes to Infowars.
Dan
Right.
Leo
He doesn't get that money.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
And they probably don't get much of that money.
Jordan
Oh, almost certainly.
Leo
And so now there's a secondary page that is never sold out of stuff.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
They're trying to drive all the traffic to.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leo
Because look, dude, why would there need to be two identical sales pages with both having Alex's name in the URL if everything was cool and legit?
Jordan
It does feel unnecessary.
Leo
Yeah. Shady as hell.
Jordan
I. I mean, even when Sears was going bankrupt, they didn't have like a bunch of different stores like Sears with two E's or Sears with three E's and an A. You know, like, at least they weren't doing that bad.
Dan
Nope.
Leo
This is past the scam threshold where it's funny now that people fall for it.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
It's entered Jim Baker singing about his food buckets territory where the shamelessness is almost an art.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And the fact that Alex can't keep these names straight in his head.
Jordan
Fantastic.
Leo
Very funny.
Jordan
It is. It is. Because it suggests that if anyone were watching.
Leo
Yes.
Jordan
They would be like, oh, well, we can just take it.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Right. Like, if anybody in any form of law enforcement or any.
Dan
Anything.
Leo
Yes.
Jordan
Bothered at all, they would listen to that and go, oh, well, thank God we just got a mob boss being like, we do crimes.
Leo
Yes. If criminal exploration were to even slightly, I think he'd be in trouble.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
So Alex wants to plug his shirts.
Jordan
Of course.
Leo
He sells a lot of cool shirts. Sure. Unfortunately, I don't think he's ever gone to his shirt website before because he gets kind of mad when he sees how much bullshit there is on the website.
Dan
Site. Yeah, yeah. Because there's just constant new shirts. Constant new shirts. You start scrolling through this. Just show what I'm talking about. I mean, it's just absolutely crazy. And it goes on. On. We have all the crusader stuff, the classic Americana stuff, the Trump stuff, the Infowar stuff. We have comedy stuff. I mean, we have just all sorts of classy stuff. We have the Gulf of America shirts. I love that veteran of the Infowars shirt right there that I designed that it would be popping popular. It's very popular. They can come up with these things with my face on it. Like, what is that stupid one right there? I'm not mad at him, but come on. What's that one right there? What's that say? No, no, the one next to it. And what is this? The truth. And what is that?
Jordan
What is.
Dan
It will shock you. I'm not mad at them, but like, that's it. Like I say, some of the best designs, some of the most ridiculous hokey crap too here. I'm not mad. Whoever designed them. Just go back, go back, go back to front page. I want to show the one next to it though. We just go back to that page real quick. What's the one right there? Click that. What is that? I'm gonna be honest with you. This is intense. And I'm like, the, the pictures with me on it don't sell well. I don't know why they keep putting out the. Now now. The one they did with me pointing a gun at somebody. That's real. That's a good, good seller. And I think that's cool.
Leo
That is cool. It's real cool. A shirt where it looks like Alex is pointing a gun at you.
Jordan
Sometimes I don't believe I'm alive. Sometimes I truly believe I've been trapped in somebody else's dream.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
Fucking sandman style.
Leo
It's nuts. It's. It's legitimately nuts to be on the day that Alex is responding to Trump kidnapping Maduro.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
Him justifying it, him celebrating it. Wanting to expand the countries that Trump fucks with and then being like, man, my shirt company makes a lot of bullshit. It's almost like this store is cluttered with garbage.
Jordan
I mean, I don't even know. I don't even know what to add.
Leo
Stuff with my face on. It doesn't sell well because people don't like me.
Jordan
I mean, amazing people have a viscerally negative reaction to seeing me fucking real. I would love to have imagined like Bob Barker doing a prize challenge and then just being like, we've got some amazing prizes. That one's shit. That was a real piece of shit. I fucking hate that thing that showcases. But we got so many great prizes today. But that vacuum cleaner is garbage.
Leo
Our producers just keep throwing bullshit in there.
Jordan
Who put that vacuum cleaner in there? You're fucking.
Leo
It's almost like people running this trying to make quick buck.
Jordan
It's almost like it's not a legitimate long term business.
Leo
Yeah, yeah. So anyway, Alex got a pee. So he leaves. And I am not sold on these shirts.
Dan
These are just the newest ones this week. That's what I'm telling you. There's like 10 new shirts a week. I love the crusader stuff. All right, just, just. It's just, it's insane. Do they know they have a bestseller section? Because that. That's the really cool ones. I'm gonna kill them. All right, I'm gonna stop. Let's play a few of these clips. Here's Mags, you know, talking about how great methylene blue worked for. Play a few more promos and.
Leo
I.
Dan
Gotta go pee pee. So if you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and lift the cd. I'll be right back. Ha.
Leo
So Megs took methylene blue. You're never gonna believe this.
Jordan
How'd it go?
Leo
It was the shark.
Jordan
No way.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
The Meg. Yeah, the Meg, yeah.
Dan
Wow.
Leo
Positive review.
Jordan
That is how it got so big, right?
Leo
The Meg.
Jordan
It was a big shark.
Leo
I think so. All right, well, I vaguely remember that movie.
Jordan
That makes sense.
Leo
So Alex peas after he does his little cute rhyme.
Jordan
Oh my God.
Leo
Shits on his own T shirt store.
Jordan
I mean, that's.
Leo
And he comes back to some things up, okay? And ultimately this was the only thing America could do. It was the right thing to do and the only thing. And hey, Congress could have stopped it if they wanted.
Dan
I don't fawn after military operations. I don't like our military being under global control. It's different now. This is the reassertion of American sovereignty. The globalist order fell apart. China double crossed America. The eu, you know, try to start World War iii. This is the only path. It's a smart path to keep American power, to relaunch the country. And that's what Trump's doing. And you can look at him on different issues and say he's not doing a perfect job. And we get on him about that. We try to, you know, dig the spurs in and get the administration going the way we want it. But most of the so called patriot influencers who are just that, influencers, not historians, not real journalists, not analysts, not patriots. They know they're going to get boosted by all the Facebook, all these accounts, all big tech, if they bash Trump. And so that's all they do is bash, bash, bash. Acting like they're for Trump, acting like they're conservatives. They're not. Maduro captured Caracas bomb. No congressional authorization. Mexico City next. Well, Congress had a chance to block it, they didn't. China slams US hegemonic acts after strikes on Venezuela. Well, it's a message to you with all your war games and dreams, drills, saying you're about to invade Taiwan.
Leo
When could Congress have stopped Trump's attack.
Jordan
On Venezuela when they knew about it?
Leo
He just played Trump and Rubio, clearly saying at the press conference that they couldn't tell Congress in advance because the mission was too secretive. So at what point did they have oversight over this? What's Alex even fucking talking about? Right now, when Alex is reading headlines, his response to them isn't really analysis. It's him pretending he's come up with a witty zinger that shut up the journalist who wrote the story that he didn't realize.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
He's sitting alone in a room roasting a wall and demanding that people treat him like he's Jesus. And it's fucking tough guy bullshit. That only works because no one's there.
Jordan
I mean, I understand if you're Trump. Right. You're rich.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
You'll get richer.
Leo
Yep.
Jordan
You're old. Nothing can really bother you. You're gonna die soon. Whether, whether you've destroyed the world or not, you're still gonna die soon.
Leo
You have certainly a cucked Congress.
Jordan
Right, right, right. I don't get it. For everybody else who's under the age of, I don't know, let's call it 85.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
And he's not rich. I don't get any part of being like, well, this is. Okay. I don't get it.
Leo
And I especially think that people who are in our age cohort are particularly distasteful.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
Because you cannot have come up and grown up in a world where your formative years involved 911 and then the Iraq war. You cannot have that happen and watch this and be like, ah, it's cool.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
It's cool. And Alex made his career, his bread and butter, his name on 911 and opposition to the Iraq war. Ostensible opposition to the Iraq war. And you just can't, you just can't do that. You can't do this. Just. It's pathetic.
Jordan
I get it. If you're. I get like 20 year old Nazis like Fuentes, you know, it's exciting and it's fun.
Leo
Yeah.
Jordan
And you don't know anything and you're. You're kicking Tucker Carlson's ass, so why not, you know, go for it, have your fun. But man, if you're, if you're a 40 year old man and you are fine with anything that's going on right.
Leo
Now, or 50, like Alex. Yeah.
Jordan
Yeah. What world did you, what world have you lived in?
Leo
Yeah. You're insane saying, yeah, so Alex's conclusion is basically like, we need more of this shit. And domestically, great. But not like kidnapping people domestically. Like, let's just let Trump take over the government.
Dan
Great. We see more of this domestically, the same energy. And I don't mean helicopters raiding Democrats and giving them, you know, rides, but.
Jordan
I do.
Dan
You know, like you've seen happen in Latin America with Pinochet. I'm talking about getting rid of the filibuster. The Democrats say they're going to get rid of and pack the Supreme Court and do everything else. They're going to make the move if they're able to get the Senate. If Trump gets rid of the filibuster, which he wants to do, and soon another has been blocking it, we can go in and not pack the Supreme Court, do things like that, but pass all the laws and regulations. We, we want to really dismantle the deep state and the globalists. So now is the time to have that same energy you see from Trump, where you got a military that will do what he says domestically to the Justice Department. That's why the people at the top, we know are bad, need to be replaced and replaced yesterday. And that's why you, the listeners, need to realize that we're winning the battles but not the war yet. And that's why it's so vital that you not be demoralized. And you understand, with Trump, we've got a real change chance at turning this around. The globalists are in full retreat right now, so let's press the attack. And Kennedy's doing such great work at Tulsi Gabbard's. The border, all of it. It's amazing. We criticize the bad, we promote the good, but it's night and day. As I say, compare the Democrats, but I need your support. These are great products. I need the funds.
Leo
Oh, man, this is almost the opposite of yesterday, huh? No need for a plan B now.
Jordan
Oh, my God.
Leo
Trump's not, you know, we can't, we can solve this through the battle box now.
Jordan
I mean, now we're. Now he' wartime president, ultimately. And I think we all have to be behind him right now. I mean, sure, things were different yesterday.
Caller
Yeah.
Jordan
But now he's magically become a brand new person. Today was the day he became president.
Leo
Definitely. Definitely.
Dan
Yep.
Leo
And Alex probably knew about this a long time ago, and he was just.
Jordan
Probably. But he couldn't leak it to anybody.
Leo
Right.
Jordan
Just like Marco Rubio said, you can't leak this information.
Dan
Information.
Leo
Congress can't be Trusted. No, but Alex can.
Jordan
No, no, no.
Leo
To be clear, I don't think Alex knew shit.
Jordan
No, of course not, man. I do love that. I do love that. That's such. That's such old school imperial thinking of like, oh, well, we can't pull this information off if Congress knows about it. Right. Never does it go. Then I guess we can't do it. We can't.
Leo
You better have have a damn good explanation for why you needed to do it. It's got to be like top tier.
Jordan
I mean, amazing.
Leo
So Alex has made peace with war and good for him.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
And now he's gonna leave the show, but he's also gonna play a little funny video that he made fun insulting Candace Owens.
Jordan
Good, good. I'm glad that's how we're closing this.
Leo
No, you're not.
Jordan
With a little sweetener.
Leo
No, you're not. Because it unfortunately is one of the cruelest pieces of gaslighting I've heard in a long time.
Dan
And then I'm going to cut to a piece I did last night as a joke and I said it was satire. You know, in the video where I play this game of, oh, I got a witness that was at the military base and they saw this meeting happen with no evidence, you could say anything. It's not an attack on Candace Owens. I like Candace a lot. The past and I've said I believe there's a cover up to Charlie Kirk's murder and I've exposed it. You know, cash pel ordered, don't look at accomplices. But I knew Mitch no was a fraud. This Huachuca meeting didn't happen. And so I called it out and I was proven right again. But I'm giving you the example of what you can do. And just say you saw this, you saw that with no proof, and just accuse a bunch of innocent people of being involved in assassinations. And then say, oh, you weren't really saying that before, and say, f anybody that questions, questions me. You're a Mossad agent. And then now that she's got heat on her, she's like, hey, everybody be nice. I'm just asking questions. Just because the corporate media lies, Democrats lie, we can't become them.
Leo
You can't say stuff like that and not be keenly aware that that's your entire business model. And I don't have patience for. For that. There's a lot of bullshit I'll put up with and listen to him say, but this is. This is. Well, to resurrect something from. From our Past. It's a bricking. It is.
Jordan
Yeah, it is.
Leo
There's no other way around it.
Dan
Nope.
Jordan
Nope. That is that to.
Dan
To.
Jordan
To see the word brazen so expertly applied.
Leo
She's doing the thing that I do where.
Dan
Wow.
Leo
I'm gonna make a satire video about how she's doing the thing that I always do.
Jordan
Oh, my God.
Leo
Oh, man. You can just make stuff up and have people make accusations about people, and then when you don't want to take responsibility for it, you can say, I was just asking questions.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, you can. You know, you sure can.
Leo
Some family members who might have some questions for you about that.
Jordan
I'm so demoralized. This has been one of the worst.
Leo
Yeah. I'm sorry. You know, I apologize. Before we recorded. I know we had a very nice half hour conversation about the traders.
Jordan
We had a lovely time.
Leo
And I apologize.
Jordan
And we haven't talked for a week because we both been sick, and I'm still. I'm still coming out of it. And then, you know, blindsided me with this.
Leo
But we had to, because this happened, and it's sure did. Insane.
Jordan
It sure is.
Leo
And now more insane shit has happened since then.
Jordan
Yeah.
Leo
And. It's. It's gonna be bad for a minute.
Jordan
It's gonna be bad for a ticket.
Leo
Yep. So anyway, Alex is completely abandoned. I mean, we've already said this. He's. He's abandoned everything. Who cares?
Jordan
Yeah. I mean, anything. No, this is a. This is an escalation. This is a new evolution of, like, straight up warmongering.
Leo
Yes.
Jordan
That is like, it was fine whenever you're fake.
Leo
Fake warring, you know, was building with the justification of the Venezuelan boat attacks.
Jordan
Right, Right.
Leo
Like, this was great growing.
Jordan
Right.
Leo
Until it popped.
Dan
Right.
Jordan
But at no point in time was it also like. And you know what? Let's take over the southern hemisphere. You know, at no point did we get there. Now we're full on, like, hey, let's colonialize everybody. Well, I want Australia back.
Leo
Alex has given lip service to, like, supporting the Monroe Doctrine. Gunboat diplomacy.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
And this kind of shit.
Jordan
Sure.
Leo
But it is a lot different when. When you kidnap a world leader.
Jordan
You want to buy Greenland. Buy Greenland. You don't kidnap Greenland.
Dan
Yeah.
Leo
Or all of Denmark. Yeah. It's belligerent. Like I said, it's a mess. And who knows what the consequences of it are gonna be? And Alex seems thrilled.
Jordan
Yep.
Leo
Fuck that, dude. Anyway, we'll be back for another awful episode, but until then, we have a website dvd.
Jordan
It's Alex fucking.
Matt Bracken
Yep.
Leo
We'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Woo.
Jordan
And now, here comes the sex robots.
Dan
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Jordan
Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
Dan
I love you.
Date: January 12, 2026
Coverage: Alex Jones Shows from January 2 & 3, 2026
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Main Theme: Dan and Jordan review a pivotal pair of Alex Jones broadcasts—recorded on the eve and aftermath of a massive US military operation to kidnap Venezuela’s President Maduro—unpacking Jones’ worldview, escalating racism, and his shifting stance on Trump’s foreign policy.
Dan and Jordan analyze the Alex Jones Show episodes from the days directly surrounding a historic and controversial US action: the kidnapping of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, personally ordered by Donald Trump. The hosts document Alex Jones’ narrative pivot from worrying about US military involvement abroad, speculating about Iran and Israel, and warning against neocon aggression—towards full-throated support for regime change once Trump executes “the biggest attack since WWII.”
They explore Jones’ steadily intensifying racist rhetoric, disinformation, and his community’s drift into open calls for violence as the limits of political change (via Trump or the “ballot box”) appear to evaporate.
Dan explains his approach to covering Alex’s slow build towards supporting regime change in Venezuela. He highlights Jones’ attempts to rationalize interventions to his audience, who have long been skeptical of neocon wars.
Quote – Dan:
“[Alex] has been trying to create rationalizations for why it’s okay to support regime change operations in Venezuela while pretending that it’s consistent with what he sold his audience for his whole career.” ([08:46])
[12:53]
Alex Jones spins up a segment about Israel allegedly calling for a repeal of the First Amendment, leaning on a misrepresented CNBC interview with an Israeli tech CEO. Dan and Jordan clarify: this is not an official Israeli government position, and Jones uses this to further anti-Israel/antisemitic narratives.
Quote – Leo:
“…Kramer is an Israeli man, but that doesn’t mean that he speaks for the Israeli government… It sort of feels like Alex can’t tell the difference. Or more accurately, he’s pretending not to be able to tell the difference because that’s what works for his content.” ([18:05])
[19:09]
Jones delivers an explicitly racist rant about Somali communities, labeling them “pirate slaver clan” (“robot thieves … perfect for Democrats”). Dan and Jordan break down the rhetorical tactics and historical echoes of dehumanizing language.
Quote – Dan (Alex’s segment):
“So basically they’re like robot thieves. Okay. And they’re perfect… they’re prized creatures by the Democrats…” ([19:45])
[21:40]
Jones half-heartedly encourages his Nazi-adjacent listeners not to criticize Israel “from a place of hate,” while continuing to espouse bigoted stereotypes and accuse Jewish public figures such as Ben Shapiro of being foreign intelligence assets.
Quote – Leo:
“Alex is the one who’s trapped, and he doesn’t seem to understand it. He’s ushered in a media full of neo-Nazis, racists, and hateful creeps… the more pressure there will be for Alex to do something, and there’s no good option for him.” ([23:32])
Jones spends time defending the symbolism of the Nazi salute and the swastika, claiming their intent is what matters and blaming the “left” for calling out dog-whistles and in-group signaling.
Dan and Jordan note the clear pattern of “baiting” for attention by flirting with explicit Nazi iconography.
Quote – Leo:
“…this is what he does… a straight up hate program… because Alex pretends that it has something to do with politics and now that none of it is getting anything politically done, they are out of excuses.” ([84:33])
Multiple calls are taken on the Alex Jones Show, with Jones affirming listeners’ conspiratorial white grievances and violence fantasies. One caller says, “It’s not going to be done through the ballot box,” referencing the old “ballot box/bullet box” right-wing trope; Jones calls for Americans to “not comply… stop paying their taxes,” and to form “American-only businesses” as a kind of economic segregation.
Dan and Jordan highlight the worrying normalization of violence and separatism as “Plan B.”
Quote – Jordan:
“Here’s what we do. We build separate water fountains. No one’s ever tried this before.” ([62:19])
Hosts lampoon and unpack the racist subtext.
January 3rd explodes with Trump’s public announcement of the unprecedented military operation:
“Last night and early today, at my direction, the US Armed Forces conducted an extraordinary military operation in the capital of Venezuela… an assault like people had not seen since World War II.” ([90:03])
Alex goes from skepticism about neocon wars and regime change to open celebration (“this is the reassertion of American sovereignty”), with little concern for Congress, international law, or consequences for Venezuela itself—or for threats to Colombia and Cuba issued in the same press conference.
Rubio and others from the administration frame this as America “being back,” explicitly for oil and manufacturing business, with Trump expressing (sometimes incoherently) that Venezuela would be run as a US operation until a “safe, proper and judicious transition” ([101:06]). Jordan and Dan dissect the lack of policy substance and the explicit declarations of imperial plunder.
Quote – Trump:
“It’s a very dangerous thing to take out of the ground… We’re going to be placing and we’re going to take a lot of money out so that we can take care of the country.” ([131:21])
Host Commentary – Jordan:
“If you’re the president and you just stole a country’s oil, that should be against the law.” ([134:41])
The episode provides a detailed and disturbing window into the convergence of far-right conspiracy culture, white nationalism, and unvarnished imperial warmongering in the post-Trump US. Dan and Jordan balance deft mockery and urgent alarm with granular analysis—making clear both the psychic toll and media absurdity of the moment.
By following Alex Jones chronologically from saber-rattling “outsider” to rapid regime-change enthusiast, the hosts expose the moral and rhetorical bankruptcy not only of Jones’ brand, but of a wide segment of the media/political sphere willing to cheer on overt, unaccountable US aggression.
A landmark Knowledge Fight episode dissecting the inflection point where Jones—and by proxy, his movement—abandons lip service to anti-imperialism and civil liberty in favor of celebration of open conquest, white grievance, and civil violence. Dense with insight, bleakly funny, and essential listening for understanding America’s far-right psychology at the edge of history.
Best encapsulating quote:
[84:33] Leo:
“…this is what he does… a straight up hate program… because Alex pretends that it has something to do with politics and now that none of it is getting anything politically done, they are out of excuses.”