#1119: February 21, 2026

Summary

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Knowledge Fight Episode #1119: February 21, 2026

Release Date: February 23, 2026
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Main Focus: Clips and analysis from Alex Jones' special Saturday show (Feb 21, 2026). The episode probes into Alex Jones’ responses to new Epstein files, elite human-hunting conspiracy narratives, Trump’s handling of scandal, and the (increasingly strange) InfoWars crew dynamic.

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Episode Overview

Dan and Jordan return to dissect another Alex Jones broadcast, this time amidst a flurry of lurid headlines: Prince Andrew arrested, new Epstein documents released, and allegations of global elites hunting humans. The hosts grapple with Alex’s narrative spiral – from adrenochrome and cannibalism accusations to bizarre theories about Steve Bannon, Howard Lutnick, and even Trump himself. As InfoWars increasingly loses ground and coherence, Dan and Jordan highlight the wishy-washiness and paranoia underpinning Alex’s recent worldview.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Opening Banter & Bright Spots

Timestamps: 01:10–05:36

• Personal Updates: Dan and Jordan start with their trademark “bright spots.”
  • Jordan describes playing with a new puppy, whose mind was blown by a man barking at her (“My bearded face blew her mind,” Jordan, 01:46).
  • Dan rounds up novelty snacks: cherry float Coke Zero (“Trash,” Dan, 03:06), lemon meringue M&Ms, and peanut butter cinnamon roll M&Ms (“Seemed forced,” Dan, 03:41). Jordan proclaims himself the inventor of cherry coke (“I blew this world apart with my brilliance,” Jordan, 05:02).

2. Episode Context & Introduction

Timestamps: 05:36–08:00

• Alex’s Special Broadcast: Dan and Jordan set out to review Alex Jones’ Saturday emergency show, promising “cannibalism nonsense.”
• Dan introduces the central theme: “Let's see how he's doing... we'll get down to a bunch of cannibalism nonsense.” (05:54)
• Listener Shoutouts & In-Jokes: The “wonk” and “technocrat” recognitions, peppered with Alex soundboard drops.

3. Main Event: Cannibalism, Adrenochrome, and Human Hunting

Timestamps: 08:07–22:16

• Alex’s Opening Rant:

  • Declares elites are “in free fall” after Prince Andrew’s arrest; ties it to “hardcore satanism, cannibalism, adrenochrome, blood drinking.” (08:32)
  • References Jimmy Saville and his long history of exposing “this” (“I've been exposing this for 32 years,” Alex, 08:41).

• Dan’s Contextualizing:

  • “We’re back to Pizzagate,” (09:17, Dan), noting how fringe narratives have bled into broader belief.

• Discussion of Epstein Files:

  • Alex claims new files detail “elites discussing not just eating humans and drinking blood… [but] hunting of humans. Including groups of blacks referred to as moon crickets” (14:19).
  • Alex openly delights in learning obscure racial slurs: “Man, I love how I'm learning new racist terms all the time for these files.” (14:52)

  Memorable Quote:

  • “I think Alex is sincere that he likes learning new slurs.” (15:01, Dan)
  • Jordan, perverse humor: “I share a little bit of perverse curiosity there as well, but not for the same reason.” (15:07)

• Dan & Jordan’s Skepticism:

  • Caution against interpreting fragmentary, out-of-context emails as “proof,” especially for extreme claims.
  • "I can never really get all that excited for these ‘we've figured out the codes’..." (15:30, Dan)
  • Satirical riffing about hunting clones and the “Bone Temple” movie.

4. Old Conspiracies, New Contexts: 9/11 and the Balkan Wars

Timestamps: 16:46–19:15

• Alex’s Memory Lane: Brings up old theories – UN hunting parties in Africa, Bosnia war tourists shooting civilians.

  • Dan notes: “Alex is certain that this did happen… but doesn’t even realize that the atrocities… were being carried out by the side he was pretending was opposing the globalists back then… because there’s no continuity and nothing means anything.” (17:44)

• Jordan’s Discomfort: Acknowledges the surreal circularity of Alex’s storytelling and how uncomfortable these accidental truths can get.

5. Initiation Rites and Star Wars Metaphors

Timestamps: 19:58–22:41

• Alex’s Initiation Theory: Elites test newcomers via atrocities (gang violence, medical experiments, etc.) so “they've got your soul and they've got your ass.” (21:00)
• Strange Metaphors:
  • Alex analogizes to Emperor Palpatine ordering Anakin to kill Jedi younglings as a “test.”
  • Dan & Jordan point out the illogic – “It’s not a test. He wants the Jedi dead!” (21:36)

6. Trump vs. Epstein: Defensiveness and Denial

Timestamps: 22:47–28:48

• Alex’s Dilemma:

  • Frustrated by Trump making every scandal about himself and refusing to “move on.”
  • Details convoluted connections: “Now, we know Ludnick wrote your executive order... Same ones that bet on the airlines plunging a week before 9/11. He was out of the World Trade Center that day. His employees weren't.” (23:59)

• Dan’s Take:

  • “This all sounds worse than anything else I’ve heard him accused, like politicians of being involved in…” (24:11)
  • Points out that Alex sounds both suspicious and trapped—forced to defend the indefensible (Trump).

• Self-Justifying and Overintellectualizing:

  • Alex presents a “scale” argument for supporting Trump over Democrats, seemingly recognizing his own position is weak.
  • “He’s just trying to overcomplicate and make it sound more defensible to have a lesser of two evils position.” (27:22, Dan)

• Metaphor Fail: Alex’s hypothetical about covering up his “dad burying a dead body” turns into a muddled hedge:

  • “If he had some reason to do it and I think it was moral, maybe I'll cover up for my dad, but it's not going to happen anyways…” (29:04)
  • Dan and Jordan, unimpressed: “It sounds like you might go along with it.” (29:33)

7. Doubts About Allies: Steve Bannon, Elon Musk, Howard Lutnick

Timestamps: 30:43–44:49

• Steve Bannon and the Ring of Mordor:

  • Alex admits Bannon went to Epstein Island and lied about it, but retains ambivalence (“I'm just gonna state the facts… he put the Ring of Mordor on…,” Alex, 32:30)
  • “There’s a… position where [Alex] could burn Steve Bannon or… come up with a reason why he’s totally fine. And that middle ground shit… is no good.” (32:49, Dan)

• Elon Musk’s Explicit Creepy Emails:

  • Dan highlights Musk’s documented requests to Epstein for “the wildest party” (44:20), skewering Alex’s selective outrage.
  • “For all the Pizzagate interpretation bullshit, this is as explicit as you can possibly get, that this man might actually hunt humans.” (46:28, Jordan)

• Howard Lutnick and 9/11:

  • Rehashed (often debunked) claims that Lutnick was involved in 9/11 via put options, evoking “inside job” tropes.
  • “Alex has accused pretty much everyone of doing 9/11… if you're, it is a footnote.” (13:35, Dan)

8. InfoWars in Decline: New Sidekick Thomas Siska

Timestamps: 47:04–57:48

• Thomas Siska Steps Up:

  • Despite Jordan and Dan’s prior takedowns, Thomas “assumes command” to interpret the Epstein emails (“the snipe hunt is over. Moon crickets in field bag…” 48:14).
  • Both hosts note Siska’s amateur delivery and overinterpretation.
    • “He’s terrible on mic… this dude is falling apart.” (50:31, Dan)

• Pseudo-Decoding and Anthropological Musings:

  • Siska theorizes “cereal” is code for “sacrifice” based on Latin roots—Dan and Jordan laugh this off as “silly… stupid… a stretch.” (55:16–57:16)

9. Ethical Bankruptcy: Punching Down, Victim Blaming, and InfoWars’ Mission Creep

Timestamps: 58:53–62:49

• Attacks on Victims:

  • Siska suggests that survivors of abuse should be scrutinized: “At a certain point, you… have to break free of the conditioning and… be willing to die to not perpetuate the same evil.” (60:24, Siska).
  • Dan, sharply critical: “They can never really be allowed to pretend that they're working with nuance. They're blunt instruments… when you're punching at people who are victims, you're a real piece of shit.” (62:15)

• Rule of Thumb:

  • “So few times are you in the wrong if you're punching up and so few times are you in the right if you're punching down.” (66:54, Jordan)

10. Conspiracy Riffs and Alex’s Cognitive Dissonance

Timestamps: 57:57–73:37

• Circular Justifications:

  • Constant hedging about Bannon and Trump – virtue weighed against grave acts.
    • “He’s bad. A couple seconds later… I’m not saying he’s bad… [it’s] kind of like, you got a bacon. It’s not done yet.” (71:07)
  • Alex can’t commit to burning Bannon, admitting he’s waiting for permission: “I want to do this right… I don’t... I want to hear back from the people who tell me if it's okay for me to burn Bannon.” (71:09–71:27)

• “Ring of Mordor” Excuse:

  • “Putting on the ring is saying that, like, yeah, some of these actions are evil, but the person's good. Maybe it's unwise to put on the ring.” (69:17, Dan)

11. Final Meltdown: Demand for “The Names”

Timestamps: 73:53–75:15

• Alex Screams at Congress:

  • “Give me the fucking names… Release it. Release it. Fucking release it. Everybody better start beating the drum… I want the very big vocabulary, the fucking redacted names.” (73:53–74:42)

• Immediate Caveats:

  • “Yeah, Trump, his name's in there, but it's all bullshit. What he's doing is covering it up.” (75:02, Dan)

• Total Contradiction & Collapse:

  • “I'm mad at Congress for being too weak… but I'm mad at Trump for being too strong to allow them to do something about it.” (75:11, Jordan)
  • Dan: “That’s the overall feeling… Alex is very near his breaking point…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan, on Alex’s defensive position:
  “It’s a foregone conclusion that he has to support Trump. And that position is becoming harder and harder to defend as Trump continues to act like a piece of shit and do things that Alex knows he's supposed to hate.” (37:07)

• Jordan, on Satanism drift:
  “Satanism used to be a much more… bigger dealbreaker. Even worshipping Satan a little bit was going to get you in trouble. Now we're getting all like, well, you know, Satanists can do good, right?” (78:43)

• On Thomas Siska:
  “It's embarrassing for someone who pretends to be his own man like Alex. It just feels trapped.” (34:00, Dan)

• On Elon’s emails:
  “Look, I know that you are Jeffrey Epstein. But I'm not flying out there if it's not fucked up, if it's not a great party.” (45:18, Dan)

• Siska’s “code theory” about cereal:
  “And cereal actually in Latin is a… the word for sacrifice. It’s believed or sacrificious…” (55:16)

  • Jordan, mocking: “If they go, that’s a stretch, then I feel like it probably didn’t happen the way that, you know.” (57:33)

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Important Segments (with Timestamps)

• Alex Jones’ Human Hunting/Cannibalism Claims:
  08:32–14:40, 16:46–19:15
  — Initial rants, “moon cricket” slur, and feverish “most dangerous game” theorizing.

• Trump, Epstein, and Lutnick Discussion:
  22:47–29:46
  — Dismay at Trump’s defensiveness, Alex’s cognitive trap, and the “dead dad” metaphor.

• Thomas Siska’s Email Decoding and Segment:
  47:04–57:48
  — Amateur “code-breaking,” cereal sacrifice, and stilted delivery.

• Bannon’s Fate and “Ring of Mordor” Analysis:
  30:43–73:37
  — Waffling on Bannon, desperate for a storyline to forgive him.

• Alex’s Final Demands to Congress:
  73:53–75:15
  — Climax: “Release the fucking names!” and a tortured justification spiral.

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Tone and Dynamics

• Exasperation & Satire: Dan and Jordan maintain a wry, skeptical tone, highlighting circular logic, dangerous victim-blaming, and the InfoWars crew’s incompetence, often with deadpan or gallows humor.

• Alex’s Tone: Alternates between defiant rage, self-pity (“I've got nothing shit from Trump except grief,” 37:09), and manic paranoia. His inability to maintain a consistent line or conviction (especially about Bannon and Trump) is obvious.

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Takeaways

• Alex Jones is struggling to reconcile mounting evidence about his ideological allies (Bannon, Trump, Musk) with his audience’s demand for eternal, righteous opposition to elites.
• The InfoWars bench is weaker than ever, with new sidekick Siska floundering and Owen, Chase, and Harrison absent or disengaged.
• Dan and Jordan see this episode as a critical point in Jones’ career: wishy-washy, stuck, and out of persuasive or polemical energy; coasting on past reputation.
• The circular conspiracy logic, contradictory justifications, and barely-disguised bigotry are all sharpening – even as the old InfoWars fire fizzles out.

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For listeners seeking coherence, analysis, and dark comedy in the world of conspiracy media, this episode embodies InfoWars’ current crisis of credibility – and Dan and Jordan’s continuing mission to document and dissect its every twist.

Transcript

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert. Red alert. Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgefire.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Need. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Andy. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello, Alex. I'm a Christian color. I'm a huge fan. I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge Fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

Or a couple dudes like to worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Dan]

Dan Jordan.

[Jordan]

Dan, Jordan, quick question for you.

[Dan]

What's up?

[Jordan]

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

[Dan]

My bright spot is it's February. And in the spirit of tradition and graciousness, I would love you to go first.

[Jordan]

Okay, I will go first. I would say that my bright spot is that earlier today my wife and I went to visit her mom's and we got to play with a puppy. Whoa, my friend.

[Dan]

You have three at home.

[Jordan]

We do, but this one's even smaller.

[Alex Jones]

Oh wow.

[Jordan]

It's so small.

[Dan]

How tiny is it?

[Jordan]

Oh man, it's so small. And she was running around jumping on everything. I barked at her and it blew her mind.

[Dan]

Do you think she didn't know barks yet?

[Jordan]

She didn't. Not least of which she had never seen a man before because it's a, all, all lady rotation of people that she's seen. So my bearded face blew her mind. Then when I barked at her, she was like, ah. What just happened? It was amazing.

[Dan]

Crazy.

[Jordan]

It was crazy.

[Dan]

I love that you get to probably see like wide eyed excitement out of this puppy. That's a, that's a beautiful. Do you bottle that?

[Jordan]

Absolutely. They have no, no regard for life or limb. Just absolute missile at everything.

[Dan]

How old are we talking of a dog here?

[Jordan]

Six months.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Or maybe five months, something like that.

[Dan]

Okay, so it's not like a week.

[Jordan]

It's not, it's not that small.

[Dan]

I was picturing teeny tiny.

[Jordan]

Oh man. We get pictures of those things and

[Dan]

rats just so helpless and cute and ah, so cute. Just want to pet them.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Bark at them.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Jordan]

So what's your bright spot?

[Dan]

Well, I thought for today's bright spot I could do a Little roundup of some novelty things.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Novelty bullshit that I've tried. All right, so I tried a. There's a cherry. What is it? Cherry float, Coke.

[Jordan]

Cherry float Coke.

[Dan]

Cherry float, Coke Zero.

[Jordan]

All right, all right.

[Dan]

Trash.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that sounds impossible to make. Good.

[Dan]

Yeah, it was no good. Yeah. Lemon meringue mms.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

Lemon meringue pie.

[Jordan]

That's on the edge.

[Dan]

Yeah, they were fine.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

You know, it's too soft of a flavor for an mm, though.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You want something with a little bit more hit than a lemon.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

And then there was also a peanut butter cinnamon roll, Eminem.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

Which I thought was weird because I don't associate peanut butter and cinnamon roll.

[Jordan]

It's hard to imagine those two fitting together, but I'm intrigued.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They were fine as a thing.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But, like, I looked at it. It seemed forced.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The. The concept for the. The flavor.

[Jordan]

The peanut butter Eminem and the peanut M and M are perfect constructions and need no changes or adjustments.

[Dan]

You don't want a little bit of cinnamon in there.

[Jordan]

I mean, you can put a little bit of cinnamon there. But you know what it is? It's a peanut butter M and M with a little bit of cinnamon. It's not like a peanut butter cinnamon M and M. You'll never have a peanut butter cinnamon. Cinnamon. Cinnamon.

[Dan]

Yeah, it doesn't. It's not helping things much.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

There's also a cherry chocolate cheesecake M and M, but the store was out, so I couldn't get those. But it's a trio of new flavors.

[Jordan]

All right. All right.

[Dan]

Yeah. So two of them were fine. Third tbd. Cherry float Coke stinks. This has been the novelty bullshit report.

[Jordan]

You know, sometimes it's hard to go back and think MacGyver only had one flavor of Coke. Well, two flavors, if they still had New Coke around.

[Dan]

Well, the diet, is that a flavor?

[Jordan]

I suppose. Diet coats. Yeah.

[Dan]

Cherry Coke came around at some point, but probably not by then.

[Jordan]

I mean, back then, I was still putting regular cherry into my Coke.

[Dan]

You're putting a little syrup in there.

[Jordan]

I would put a little cherry syrup in there. I would make my own cherry Coke.

[Dan]

You were an innovator.

[Jordan]

I blew this world apart with my brilliance.

[Dan]

You should be a millionaire. You invented Cherry Coke.

[Jordan]

I did. I did.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. I.

[Dan]

Thinking back, I don't remember there being as many soda flavors for sure. Back then. It was. It was pretty simple. Everyone was so excited about the clear Pepsi.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but it was supposed to. It was still supposed to taste like Pepsi was just Pepsi or Diet Pepsi. Yeah.

[Dan]

But then it was clear.

[Jordan]

And then it was clear.

[Dan]

Yeah. Anyway, today we got an episode to go over.

[Jordan]

All right. All right.

[Dan]

We're gonna be back in the present day today. And I was going. I was looking around, seeing. Hey, what's up? Alex did a special Saturday episode on February 21st, and I thought, great. I love Saturday episode.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

Let's see how he's doing. Yeah, he's great.

[Jordan]

I believe it.

[Dan]

So we'll get down to a bunch of cannibalism nonsense. But first, let's take a moment to say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

That's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first, proud of Jess for completing her first semester of law school. All the legal advice she's already been offering. We prove she's a natural, especially considering we live in different states. From Ian. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. Next. Praise the holy God, Emperor of mankind. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much. Thank you.

[Dan]

And David, when you thought Sam and I ruined your relationship with your girlfriend, in a dream, that was true. We inceptioned. You sucka. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much, too. I get why you stopped doing it, but I really miss hearing Jordan go bop, bop, bop, bop with the daddy shark clip. Can we get one for old time's sake? Maybe.

[Jordan]

Depends on whether or not we press the right button.

[Dan]

I don't remember which is which.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

So here we go.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow. Actually, I'm just gonna take a little break now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm gonna start the show over. But I'm the devil. I gotta be taking over here. I mean, all this. You, you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, you and your new world order and the horse you rode in on and all your. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'LL be better tomorrow.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I fit it in there.

[Dan]

So. Yeah. No, you can't win them all. Sometimes you get the wrong one.

[Jordan]

That's roulette for you. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. So we start off today. There's big news that Alex needs to cover. And that is that Prince Andrew has been arrested. And there's a lot of Epstein stuff going around. Sure. A lot of chaos.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Howard Lutnick is all over the Epstein files. Sure. And then also is maybe in some hot water after the Supreme Court ruled that the tariffs weren't good.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And maybe unconstitutional. So Alex. Alex needs to get ahead of all this stuff. And he does it the only way he knows how. By talking about cannibalism and adrenochrome.

[Jordan]

That works.

[Alex Jones]

It is Saturday, the 21st day of February, 2026. I am your host, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas and the Alex Jones Network Backup Studios. The entire globalist system is in free fall. The arrest last week or this week of Prince Andrew shows the globalists they're not above the law. And the house of cards is coming down. We now have palace God. Except for the ones who are exposing the illegal activity. The fact that the King of England's done this shows they're cutting and running. He is more involved than even his brother in hardcore satanism, cannibalism, adrenochrome, blood drinking. I've been exposing this for 32 years. There have been thousands of articles in the UK about it. Jimmy Savelle. It's unbelievable.

[Dan]

So we're back to Pizzagate.

[Alex Jones]

Wow.

[Dan]

Is real kind of stuff.

[Jordan]

How about that?

[Dan]

That's exciting. We're doing this season all over again.

[Jordan]

I mean, I would say that for. For maybe. Let's put it this way, for the common person, Pizzagate is more believable now than it was back in Pizzagate times.

[Dan]

Unfortunately.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I'm not saying it is believable. I'm just saying that relatively speaking, to the current real reality, that is less unreal than it.

[Alex Jones]

Yep, Yep.

[Dan]

That shows deterioration over time.

[Jordan]

It's not our fault.

[Dan]

So. I also think it's fun. You know, Alex is bringing up Jimmy Savelle.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And I just rewatched the Bone Temple.

[Jordan]

How's that? We did the same thing.

[Dan]

Yeah. Couldn't. As soon as it was available, I had to watch it again. And.

[Alex Jones]

Great.

[Jordan]

Fantastic movie.

[Dan]

My review holds up.

[Jordan]

Spectacular.

[Dan]

But I want to hear what Alex thinks about the jimmies.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I really want. Absolutely.

[Dan]

He's gotta think like this is glorifying Savelle or something. Some Sort of like real psyop to get in your heads.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And in all. In many ways that's the most ambiguous part of the film is the like, are you fucking with me about Jimmy or what? What are we doing here?

[Dan]

Well, I mean, from the standpoint of the character or from Danny Boyle.

[Jordan]

Exactly. From Danny Boyle's point of view, I

[Dan]

guess more Alex Garland.

[Jordan]

Right. Wow. That's right. Because of the Sir. Because it's Sir Lord Jimmy Crystal. And we never address that. He's wearing a famous Jimmy costume.

[Dan]

Yeah, but the world ended before Jimmy Savelle got outed as.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Dan]

As a horrible, horrible monster.

[Jordan]

Absolute chaos.

[Dan]

So Jimmy can't be fucking with you, Alex.

[Jordan]

That's a good point.

[Dan]

Could be.

[Jordan]

He could be.

[Dan]

There's a statement in there. But not from Jimmy.

[Jordan]

Right, Right.

[Dan]

Just thinks Jimmy Savelle is a good dude.

[Jordan]

Right. If he. It's like if he was wearing a Woody Allen outfit in the 60s where you're like. I mean, if the world would know

[Dan]

if there was a zombie outbreak in the. And there were the Woody's.

[Jordan]

Oh God.

[Dan]

Anyway, I want Alex to watch that. I want to review.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

So Alex is. You know, there's the stuff coming out about Howard Lutnick.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And Alex. Alex remembers something. Oh shit. He was involved in doing 9 11. I totally forgot.

[Alex Jones]

And then you've got Howard Ludnig through his company and his sons betting against the tariffs that they would be rejected by the Supreme Court and buying up all of the insurance claims that could have been filed to potentially make billions and billions of dollars. Absolutely. While then I was reminded from an old interviews and news Max Kaiser from back on 911 that it was his company. Did the record put options against the airlines days before as well. He magically wasn't at work at the same company. So this is bad, folks. Absolutely out of control.

[Dan]

Oh man. You. I mean, you probably should have been more upset about the fact that he's Trump's Secretary of Commerce, but he did not. He knew about 911 ahead of time is the argument Alex is making.

[Jordan]

I mean, here's my problem with that is that I feel like that means that we could have handled it whenever. It was just maybe the worst terrorist attack in all of history. You know, that might be a problem that we could have dealt with, but instead we're going to wait until he's all over the Epstein piles.

[Dan]

Sure. No, I also don't think that Alex has a good handle on what it is that Howard Lutnick's accused of in terms of the the tariff stuff. Yeah, but who cares?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

We're not here for accuracy.

[Jordan]

He's not going to. It's never going to help.

[Dan]

No, but he did 911 and Alex has just mysteriously remembered this thing that he was supposed to. Is supposed to be the most important thing in his career.

[Jordan]

I just feel like you can't have done 911 and it just be a line item in your, in your obituary. You know, like he was a good dude, he was a good father, he was a raised, you know, did 9 11. He was also pretty good at stock tips. You know, like all that stuff. Like 911 feels real top billing.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think the problem is that Alex has accused pretty much everyone of doing 9 11.

[Jordan]

That's a good point.

[Dan]

And so if, you know, if you're. It is a footnote.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Alex has accused them of.

[Thomas Siska]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

That is a good point. Yeah. One of many.

[Dan]

So the, the Epstein emails that have come out.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

There's a fair amount of stuff about hunting humans.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

There's the most dangerous game.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Alex Jones]

All right. There's so many places to go with the 3 million plus Epstein files that the DOJ made it as hard as they could to search. They don't let you search. With each search, 10 items. That means it would take one person 100 years to go through it all. Literally. But because of human crowdsourcing, folks are digging through it. And I'll go to bed at midnight and wake up at 4am and there's thousands of things to look at. The next more insane than last. But here's something I want to just focus in on right now because we have a lot of past on this. If you look at the live show feed. What a headline. Epstein files are full of the establishment globalist so called elites discussing not just eating humans and drinking blood and sex slaves being delivered in satanic rituals.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Alex Jones]

But hunting of humans. New Epstein files talk about deranged elites hunting and killing humans, including groups of blacks referred to as moon crickets. Man, I love how I'm learning new racist terms all the time for these files. I mean, what the hell is that? I'm told you know what a moon cricket is. Look online. A moon cricket.

[Dan]

So here's what I want to say.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think Alex is sincere that he likes learning new slurs.

[Jordan]

I agree. I agree.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And I mean, I do also. I share a little bit of perverse curiosity there as well, but not for the same reason.

[Dan]

Yeah. So the email that Alex is talking about, it'll come up a bit more over the course of this episode. I don't know if it proves that anyone was hunting anybody, but I do think they're racist. I think there's some racism that's definitely

[Jordan]

expressed strong belief there.

[Dan]

But, you know, I can never really get all that excited for these. We've figured out the codes of. Like, this means they're all hunting human.

[Jordan]

Okay, let me combine these two. Two things with you. All right? First off, I've said this before. I've said it many times. There has to be a clone out there. Right. We've got enough unethical people. Somebody. Yeah, somebody's cloned somebody out there. Let's imagine there's a lot of clones. Now, if we're using those clones for human hunting, is that okay?

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

Is that ethical human hunting?

[Dan]

Immediately, no.

[Jordan]

Immediately, no.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You're not willing to entertain the thought that you can't have a soul?

[Dan]

Nope.

[Jordan]

Okay, fair enough.

[Dan]

Also, I wanted to move off this topic because I got excited about the idea of a clone temple. Bone temple.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, one would definitely lead

[Dan]

to the other one would help.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

It would at least build a higher tower.

[Dan]

Hunting of the clones would lead to bones. This is poetry.

[Jordan]

That is. Yep.

[Dan]

So Alex discusses how there's a rich history in the world of rich people hunting people.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, I'm going to move quick here so we can get to it all. Yeah. There's a bunch of this stuff. And you've got all these witnesses telling the FBI decades ago and years ago about being hunted at Zorro Ranch, hunted at Epstein Island. And then you've got Kathy o' Brien talking about it. Then you've got UN reports. And when the UN has been caught hunting, setting up human hunting parties.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry.

[Alex Jones]

Ago. My first film, America Destroyed by Design, made in 96. I made it recent. Early 97. That's 29 years ago. We talk about the UN and show news articles back then, expect that the corporate news was better. They were. They were still control. But they got some truth out about the UN having these hunting parties for humans in Africa. Well, look at this. BBC Italy investigates claims of tourists paying to shoot civilians In Bosnia, the 1990s. It's not claims. It's all well documented.

[Dan]

So at this point, I'm imagining that Alex is regretting making such a big deal out of one battle after another and civil war. Those movies seemed so in line with his storyline that he forgot about the hunt. The one about the elites paying to hunt people. That was supposed to be super anti Trump. Yeah, but Alex's audience lost interest in that movie pretty quickly. If he'd stuck with that, it would have been a gamble, but it'd be paying off big right now. I thought the fact that the rich people paying to kill civilians in Bosnia coming up was super interesting, given the fact that we've been back in 2006 covering Milosevic's death and Alex's response to it. One of the reasons that this is bizarre is the article Alex is reporting on from the BBC is about very rich people paying Serb forces to let them come to their fortified positions and shoot civilians. These were the Serb forces that were aligned with Milosevic, who Alex thought didn't do anything wrong. I believe this could have happened, but I'm not sure. The bigger point, though, is that Alex is certain that this did happen, and he doesn't even realize that the atrocities trying to pin on the globalists was being carried out by the side he was pretending was opposing the globalists back then. Because there's no continuity and nothing means anything.

[Jordan]

Yeah, man.

[Alex Jones]

Woof.

[Jordan]

That is a coincidence. That is. The. Him suddenly bringing that up is a coincidence, and I don't appreciate it.

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

It makes me feel very uncomfortable.

[Dan]

It's the return of my witch.

[Jordan]

I don't. I don't like that at all. No, thank you. No, thank you.

[Dan]

So, you know, the. The. The. The elites.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

They do this kind of stuff.

[Jordan]

I think they did it in the purge too.

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

Well, I think they did it in one of the purges.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

At least one of the purges. There were human hunts.

[Dan]

Yeah. No, for sure. For sure. And some of them were like unofficial human hunts. We'll just get together and hunt.

[Jordan]

I think it's. I think. Here's my. Here's my theory on it. I think it's overblown as a fun activity. I don't. I don't think it would be that much fun to hunt a human.

[Dan]

No, probably not. Yeah, but they do stuff like this in order to test initiates.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Right. They. They want to see if you're willing to do it. Would you go hunt a human?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And then Alex makes a dumb comparison.

[Alex Jones]

Let's start plowing into this. Okay. Let's. Let's. Let's get into this first big subject now with the poison shots, with the 5G, with the transgenderism, with everything they do. It's about, we're animals. We're slaves. We're garbage. They control us. And it's about going through the establishment, going through the different systems of academia, military, law enforcement, culture, banking, and finding people that will do horrible evil stuff. And I've used this example many times because it's on record. Why do they have horrible metal experiments on animals that are pointless? Fauci does that for decades and decades. The latest was, you know, hundreds and hundreds of beagles, larynxes removed, chained down with the bag over their head with flesh eating worms. It's just to see if the medical staff will do it. It's a test. Just like gangs have. Go kill a liquor store owner. Go rape a girl. Ms. 13. Do a satanic ritual. It's to see if you'll do horrible things and have dirt on you.

[Jordan]

Nurses also do those things.

[Alex Jones]

Right. A passage

[Dan]

to.

[Alex Jones]

To get you to fully commit to evil. So they've got your soul and they've got your ass. What is Emperor Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith say to Darth Vader? He's just become Darth Vader. His eyes haven't turned yellow yet. That's the archetype. It's a metaphor. He says, go to the Jedi temple and kill all the young.

[Jordan]

Is it a metaphor?

[Alex Jones]

Will you be strong enough at the dark side to save pet me? They're telling you how this all works. They're telling you how this thing operates.

[Dan]

Okay, so. No. But also, Emperor Palpatine didn't want Anakin to kill the Jedi as a test to see if he would do bad stuff. No, he wants the Jedi dead.

[Jordan]

The Jedi being dead is, like, a huge thing for the Sith.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

They're all about it.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. It's not like just random crime to see if your soul is corruptible. It was critical.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And actually also very dangerous like this. It's not like, oh, go kill a helpless person. These people also have lightsabers. Yeah.

[Dan]

Less dangerous when it's the children.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

I think that's what made that scene particularly, you know, horrifying.

[Jordan]

I'm with you, but I don't know. I feel like 30 children with lightsabers should probably win that fight.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Jones]

I.

[Dan]

You know what? Yes. Lightsabers are a crazy force equalizer.

[Alex Jones]

You know?

[Dan]

Like, it's.

[Jordan]

Right. Even if. Okay, I guess maybe if he's. If he could just, like, throw them all at the same time, then it's like, well, fine, you know, you've got too much force powers. But if we're just like, why even open up your lightsaber if you're gonna throw them all away and they've got like, 30 little lightsabers.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Jones]

I don't know.

[Dan]

But whatever the case, it was not a test. And so this metaphor doesn't work. I think he just wanted to do the voice.

[Jordan]

Yep, that does sound right.

[Dan]

So it's unfortunately time to deal with the. The elephant in the room.

[Jordan]

What's that?

[Dan]

Trump. And the fact that, man, he won't stop making this about himself.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's probably not smart.

[Dan]

And won't tell it. Won't stop telling people that they should shut up about it.

[Jordan]

That's not smart either.

[Alex Jones]

Here's Trump again, always making it about him because, yeah, they're bringing out the Epstein to try to get Trump. We've never seen him involve any of the crime, but by extension the DOJ has covered up. Slow Rolled Obfuscated told us there's no new documents and there are all these new documents. But here's Trump again saying, well, I'm not in it. I'm not bad, so let's just move on. No, Ludnick lived next door. Ludnick said all these businesses. Ludnick, now he learns on the island a whole bunch. Ludnig lied. Now, we know Ludnick wrote your executive order and Kavanaugh said it's constitutional what you did, but he wrote the executive order wrong. On the tariffs. Now we learned they bought up all of the insurance policies on the $175

[Dan]

billion

[Alex Jones]

on the tariffs that have been overturned. 80% of them and his family their counterfeit. Gerald. Same ones that bet on the airlines plunging a week before 9 11. He was out of the World Trade center that day. His employees weren't.

[Dan]

So this all sounds worse than anything else that I've heard him accused, like politicians of being involved in like, I mean, like he's painting a picture of Trump as like, this fucking dude sucks, right?

[Jordan]

Yeah. There's no other way to describe it.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

And the closeness again with somebody who knowingly did 911 seems wild to me considering the amount of anti 911 problems we have.

[Dan]

Well, and how many cool people Trump has around him advising him, and how much Trump knows about the New World Order and all that stuff. This seems like a real mistake he shouldn't be possible to make.

[Jordan]

And how many of those people were definitely not his own appointees who he chose specifically, thus giving himself some sort of responsibility as well for their actions. They're just random people who walked in off the street.

[Dan]

Yeah. So I think that Alex really is in a negative place with Trump now. Don't get me wrong, he still loves him.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, he's 92% maybe the best thing that's ever happened to this entire earth.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

But this all sounds really bad. Like this guy won't. Like every single fucking time it comes up, he's defensive.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Every single time he tells people to move on.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Dan]

Come on, man.

[Jordan]

Wow. It's almost like if somebody brings up Sandy Hook, he says the exact same shit every fucking time and ask people to stop talking about it.

[Dan]

Almost like a very strong sense of projected guilt.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Oh, well.

[Alex Jones]

Huh.

[Dan]

So Alex realizes that this is pretty obvious to everybody.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he also is like, I'm not gonna stop supporting Trump, obviously. So he tries to over intellectualize his position.

[Jordan]

I like it.

[Alex Jones]

So here's Trump again. Look, I'm explaining this. And people that hate Trump don't get it. People that love Trump don't get it. And I think you're smart. So I'm explaining this real slowly. It's a scale. Yes. Trump is way, way better with getting us out of the UN Carbon tax. It'll save billions of lives and finding half the missing kids that the Democrats shipped in for sex slavery and slave labor and all the other great things take an hour and a half to go through.

[Jordan]

Didn't take you very long to get through those.

[Alex Jones]

A big arm of the globalist hate his ass, but he's brought in a bunch of bad people. They're not prosecuting any of the bad guys to speak of. Andrew's been arrested over there, but nothing over here. The DOJ tells us Epstein acted alone. Go to sleep. They've put Ghislaine Maxwell in the nicest federal prison in the country here in Texas.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

With their own companion animal.

[Jordan]

These are a list of evidentiary.

[Alex Jones]

We're not moving on and we're not the Democrats that will do whatever the party says. We are the populace using the Republicans to try to get the Republic back. And Trump wrote it on that way. So I will expose Trump for this, but I also spend most of my time with the Democrats, what they're up to. They hope to just, just only have mega about Trump. No, we'll expose Trump and we'll expose you as well. But the white pillars say, oh, you're undermining Trump. No, this, these actions are. In the whole country. The black pillars are either Democrats or they just say we're all doomed. Screw Trump. No, I support Kennedy, I support Tulsi Gabbard, I support good Republican candidates. They're light day and night compared to Democrats.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Alex Jones]

And I will hang this whole thing around the Democrats and leftist parties worldwide because they're the Ones at the center of it. And I will then say, but Trump is joining in on it. See that.

[Dan]

Yeah. The. See, I see. I mean, he's just trying to overcomplicate and make it sound more like defensible to have a lesser of two evils position.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. Even then you're like, I'm going to keep up with the Democrat. You've won. You've argued your case perfectly, and it's an anti Trump case.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Even if we even including all the stuff that the Democrats are evil with, I think they're right around the same. Right. And that's you saying it.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You're saying they're exactly the same.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And that Trump is like, willingly covering it up.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That last part where you said, and he's working with the globalists too, should tell you all you need to know.

[Dan]

It seems like it should be disqualifying, but it's not. If it's just like, hey, would you rather have aoc? Would you rather. Would you rather you have Kamala?

[Jordan]

You know, I wonder. I wonder if it is actually a good policy position for the Democrats to have no presence whatsoever. Right. Because then it's like, I don't know, maybe I do want them. I don't know what they're doing at all. What you have told me sounds maybe true, but also it sounds like a cartoon supervillain.

[Dan]

Sure. I mean, like, if. If. Yeah. If they're doing nothing and everything is super duper bad.

[Jordan]

Right. I choose nothing. I'll choose. I will choose ineffectual losers 100% of the time. Comp to this. Right?

[Dan]

Yeah, I guess.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So Alex is in this position where he's like, fuck, this is all real guilt stuff.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is bad. Looks bad. I can't go along with Trump doing this.

[Jordan]

Tough.

[Dan]

But also, like, what do you do? Like, if your dad kills someone?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Do you snitch?

[Alex Jones]

And I'm watching all the good Trump's doing and just going, but I have a moral responsibility that my dad's the greatest guy ever. Never saw me, you know, anything criminal or bad or whatever. But let's just say hypothetically that I go visit my dad next week and he's burying a dead body in the backyard. I want to find out was that a good person or a bad person. Now, if he had some reason to do it and I think it was moral, maybe I'll cover up for my dad, but it's not going to happen anyways. The point is I would not go along with it. Okay.

[Dan]

It sounds like, you might go along with it.

[Jordan]

It feels like you've just said you probably go along with it based upon the way that you've talked about stuff like this before.

[Dan]

If your dad convinces you it was a bad person and that it's a justified kill.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

You might go along with this.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Maybe not. What does this mean?

[Jordan]

You know, the problem for a lot of people is not deciding in advance whether or not they would do it. Even in this situation, being indecisive seems unhelpful.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

And this is a hypothetical.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's an attempt at a metaphor.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

I think he failed.

[Jordan]

Yeah, he failed pretty hard.

[Dan]

I think he's trying to say that he would snitch on his dad.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Because it's. It's like, well, yeah, you just can't go along with these kinds of things.

[Jordan]

But he hedged his bets in the middle.

[Dan]

Yeah, he did. Yeah. And I think that that wishy washy, waffle y feeling is really what this episode. Like, it just makes you feel.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like there's this. Ah, fuck, Trump is doing all this terrible stuff, but I can't really do anything.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he. He starts talking about, I'd help my

[Jordan]

dad cover up a dead body.

[Dan]

Totally interesting.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't know if I would. But what about Steve Bannon?

[Jordan]

Well, that one's easier to.

[Dan]

Alex is a little bit on the fence about Steve.

[Alex Jones]

Now, let's be clear. Trump knows a lot more than he's letting on. If you look back,

[Jordan]

that's too much.

[Alex Jones]

Five years ago, he said, sloppy Steve Bannon has got an Epstein problem. I saw that email again, this relationship statement again today, and I like Steve Bannon. He's very smart. I haven't spoken about it yet because it's going to be a deep dive, and I'm going to do it a few days and really, you know, tell you what's going on there. But why is Trump saying he's got an Epstein problem? And now the email's been released of them buying him a plane ticket to get to the island and. And. And Stevie's respond to that. But I can look at everything in there and I know what was going on. And I'm gonna not defend Steve and. And not attack Steve. I'm just gonna state the facts. Steve Bannon has moved the needle against the globalist big time. And in these emails, he's overthrowing the Labor Party, getting the Brexit people in, and he's working with Epstein. You're like, what is that? He's, you know, he He. Because Epstein was the real head of the Trilateral Commission. Now I don't put on the Ring of Mordor. I don't go to D.C. i don't go to New York. I can do all that. I've had these groups try to meet with me, all that stuff over the years. I met with some of them, off record, not ever in Epstein, but, you know, people love him and said, no, I'm not for sale. But the point is, is that Bannon was never for sale. He was a Hollywood producer and a stock guy, and he got into the system because he was really a politico. He's really smart. But again, he put the Ring of Mordor on, and I would never, you know, do that.

[Dan]

Sure. So I think that it just feels like, ambivalent.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

There's a. Like. Okay. Obviously Steve is way more involved in some shit than I really want.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

At the same time, he's really important, and he's a big figure in my media space.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So Alex is trying to set up this position where it could go either way.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Where he could burn Steve Bannon or he could come up with a reason why he's totally fine. And that. That middle ground shit is just like. It is no good.

[Jordan]

No. Especially not now.

[Dan]

Not from the tip of the spear.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Jordan]

And. And I think we're. We should be in full. What? The old joke, right? I'm Derek the gardener. I've been a gardener for 20 years. They don't call me Derek the gardener. You fuck. One go and you're Derek the Goat fucker for life. That kind of thing. And it's like, yeah, I don't care what you've done. You went to Epstein Island.

[Dan]

And. And as Alex even points out himself, you lied about it.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, for a reason.

[Jordan]

People lie for a reason. People don't just lie about it because it would be a delightful time. They lied about it because you went to Epstein island and you lie about that shit.

[Dan]

Yeah. I mean, it's. He's got to do something like this. This. This kind of. This kind of positioning that he's trying to do is fucking dumb. And. And it's embarrassing for someone who pretends to be like his own man, like Alex. It just.

[Jordan]

It feels.

[Dan]

It feels trapped.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And the British are. And again, it's. It's so stupid how Trump is doing it, because the British are doing it. Right. Right. People want a head. At least people want heads to roll. So you give them a head. Listen, you think Prince Andrew is the only person up There in the. In the Royal family, who's had a good time. No, absolutely not. But fuck that guy. Head's got a roll. Get out of here. Right. You gotta give him one and then you can hide the rest of them.

[Dan]

Maybe, maybe. So what Trump is doing instead. Yeah. Is just being like, I think I'm gonna cover this stuff up.

[Jordan]

See, that's the problem.

[Dan]

It is.

[Jordan]

Give him a head.

[Dan]

And even for Alex, it's a problem.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. Now, he said it in the Bannon interview. Only two hours of 60 hours. We now learned it was released because the FBI already had that. Bannon released it. He was the standard for David Rockefeller, the head of the throttle commission. Let that sink in for you. So what? Waters doing a great job in that report? 5 minutes all dead on. But the rest of the story is why is Trump saying it'll hurt America if we keep focusing on this? Let's move on. Why are you connecting yourself to something that I've known about before? Anybody covering on air? Why are you doing it?

[Jordan]

Fuck.

[Alex Jones]

Because I will not be part of the COVID up by not exposing what you're doing, Trump. But I'm not implicated, so it's fine. Let's move on. Bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Fuck.

[Dan]

Seems mad.

[Alex Jones]

It's.

[Jordan]

I mean, he's in a. He's in a tough position.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

Right. Because when you ask a question like why, and you already know the answer.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan]

Then you're asking, why is it so hard to come up with a plausible lie about this?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And if it's so hard to come up with a plausible lie, you're fighting from the back of the end zone, man. They've already called a safety. You're not getting out of there.

[Dan]

Yeah. He's not asking, like, why is Trump acting this way? It's more, God, why is it so hard for me to defend?

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Dan]

Because I'm not.

[Jordan]

Not going to give me something real good. Right. Give me something good that I can carry over this because, man, I got no options.

[Dan]

Yeah. This feels like something. It's. It's weird that you'd think like, oh, this is a good thing to broadcast.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, because it does seem like somebody who's just like in crisis about something that everyone understands, like where he's. Where he's situated in this. He's not going anywhere. And he's gonna whine.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, don't have a crisis about this on air. Talk to a therapist about it or something.

[Jordan]

Something.

[Dan]

And do your job.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Anyway, that's just the feeling that I get is that he feels trapped as shit.

[Jordan]

Well, yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Holy mackerel. And those that bitch at me saying, well, why do you support Trump? So far they pulled out of the Paris Accord. According to the actuaries, they'll save 2 million people. They found half the kids. The Democrats shipped in half a million. I don't find any real stuff he's doing.

[Jordan]

That's the tone of voice of somebody who's confident.

[Alex Jones]

So good for me that the globalist offered to drop the lawsuits if I don't support him. People say, oh, you've been paid off to support Trump. No, I've got nothing shit from Trump except grief.

[Dan]

So this sounds like a guy who just can't justify the position he knows he has to sell to the audience. It's a foregone conclusion that he has to support Trump. And that position is becoming harder and harder to defend as Trump continues to act like a piece of shit and do things that Alex knows he's supposed to hate. It's really hard to hear a clip like that and not suspect that Alex's support for Trump isn't authentic. He just yelled a string of obscenities about how he's not gonna go along with Trump's Epstein cover up. And then to justify why he supports Trump, Alex pulls out these two examples. The first is getting out of the Paris Accords, which he claims will save 2 billion lives. That number is made up by his climate lunatic friends like Lord Monckton, and it has no bearing on reality. Trump left the agreement in his first term, then Biden rejoined it and Trump left it again. In the meantime, most of the rest of the world has stayed in the agreement and we will rejoin it as soon as Trump isn't in office. The second example he has is finding all these missing kids, which is really just a fake story. During the run up to the election, Alex and the folks in his media space pretended that hundreds of thousands of kids who came across the border were missing. And because that story was fake to begin with, who cares if you make up the conclusion to it? These kids weren't missing. So Alex can say that they're just all secretly getting found and chalk it up as a big Trump success. Yeah, the only stuff Alex can really point to when he needs to balance Trump's very obvious Epstein cover up shit are fake or old stories that don't mean anything. I don't know if he thinks that this sounds convincing, but I find it hard to believe that he could. I think he has to realize this is thin shit.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, how can you not? You've been. You've been trapped on the smallest of planks. You're off. You're on the smallest of planks. Everybody, all the pirates are looking at you like, buddy, fucking jump. We can't do this all goddamn day. You're gonna go into that water. So just jump.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

And the longer you refuse to, the more it just becomes, like, painfully obvious that something's up here.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So it's not all just Epstein stuff Alex is mad at Trump about.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

There's also, you remember the frogs, how they're turning gay and all that stuff? Chemicals in the water.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Trump loves it.

[Alex Jones]

Ooh. The good news is the great awakenings here. The good news is populists are winning everywhere. The good news is Trump just wrote in our wave, we'll take the good. The good people. Kennedy, you know, Homan Gabbards will support all that. But he's out there giving liable protection to glyphosate now because they've been exposed murdering everybody and Roundup. So it's just. It's just trumpet 79 is in LA La Land, and that's fine.

[Jordan]

No, it's not.

[Alex Jones]

Democrats, it's all focused on him because this is. This is our dog of the fight. But remember, they're 10 times more guilty on record, so let's focus on them.

[Dan]

Yeah, let's not focus on the guy who's in La La Land. Great. So it's not even that Trump has given liability protection to glyphosate producers. He signed an executive order boosting production of it and protecting it as a national security priority.

[Alex Jones]

Cool.

[Dan]

So what happened here is that Bayer is the only company in the United States that produces glyphosate, and they're in some big lawsuits accusing the product of causing cancer. They recently proposed an approximately $7 billion settlement for the case. But we're also clear that if they had to pay that off, they probably couldn't afford to continue production in the United States, and it would likely all go to China. Trump's in a position where the Robert Kennedy Jr. Types in his base absolutely demand that he get rid of glyphosate. And that demand has been a big part of Alex's career for decades. Yeah, but simultaneously, he has a big company with ties to all sorts of production that will probably take their business elsewhere if Trump goes through with that, which would look really bad for the economy. Yeah, he's in a no win situation because he loves big business, but also has an audience full of Idiots who believe passionately in conspiracy shit. Trump's in a bind there.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

No matter what he does, one side is gonna be pissed. And it would be helpful for folks like Alex to take notice that when these kinds of no win situations come up, Trump seems to always side with the big business interests.

[Jordan]

Weird how that works.

[Dan]

I don't know if it's a coincidence.

[Jordan]

You know, the way I see it, right. If we're here, all right, you can, you can go full China. You know, say you're president for life and then just nationalize Bear. Just like arrest all those executives, put them in jail for a while, take Bear, then let him out and then say, bear is yours again and surprise, you're not going anywhere. Isn't that crazy how that works?

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't know if you could do that because I think Bayer is a foreign company.

[Alex Jones]

I.

[Jordan]

You know, the thing about doing stuff when you're a dictator, you really never

[Dan]

know what you can get away with.

[Jordan]

You never know until you do it.

[Dan]

It's true.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I mean, hey, it's an option.

[Jordan]

You know, it is interesting the idea of being beholden to large business interests while at the same time being theoretically the most powerful man in the world. The idea of being like, hey, Buddha, if you don't like glyphosate, we'll take our business to China. What are you going to do about that?

[Dan]

Nothing.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

It's also really funny to have like, you know, all of this big business need to like have all these numbers that show that the economy is good for your own like, sense of self.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And then also have an audience that are the most self deluded fucking idiots who think they're counterculture.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's crazy and it's.

[Jordan]

And it's even wilder to know that, that you can, you can make the. For what you want, you can do you want those numbers to be good? There is good governance available to make those numbers happen, but you can't do that because you have to make those numbers happen by doing the insane shit that will never make those numbers happen.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yep. It's fun.

[Jordan]

It's a bind.

[Dan]

It's fun for us to live.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

With.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

So there's a lot of people who are implicated by the Epstein emails and stuff. And there's one person who you need to know is not, and that is Elon Musk.

[Alex Jones]

So here is pretty sure he's real. David Sacks called out Reid Hoffman, who's like a fly on. And all this for blaming Trump and Elon with Elon There is nothing there. And Elon's the one that came out in June and said Trump is in the file. That's why he's covering it up. And boy, what are they suppressing is a big question.

[Dan]

I don't want to play games here, and it's obvious that Alex is just a hack liar, but I don't know if we've talked about Elon's emails with Epstein on the show, so I just wanted to share this.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

In November 2012, Epstein was inviting Elon to the island and offering a helicopter for transportation. And Elon replied, quote, what day slash night will the wildest party on your island? To be clear, that was in 2012. Well after he'd gone to jail for the first time and Elon Musk was specifically trying to plan out a visit to his island based on when the wildest party would be.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Then on Christmas Day, Elon emailed Epstein, quote, do you have any parties planned? I've been working to the edge of sanity this year and so once my kids head home for Christmas, I really want to hit the party scene in St. Barts or elsewhere and let loose. The invitation is much appreciated, but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for. My point is that Elon really desperately wanted to get some wild partying in with the convicted sex criminal. It's very funny that Elon acted this way, and even more funny than Alex is pretending that none of that is real.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Haha.

[Jordan]

You know, here's the problem with those emails, right. Horrible if followed through on, even more disgusting if not. Think about the man's mindset. Whenever he's sending that email to fucking Jeffrey Epstein, he's imagining what he's going to do.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

No, he's saying I need it to be fucking crazy.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Dan]

Look, I know that you are Jeffrey Epstein.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But I'm not flying out there if it's not fucked up, if it's not a great place.

[Jordan]

The idea that he is putting out there is I want to do real crimes.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

I want to do actual things that cannot be done off an island because of laws.

[Alex Jones]

Yes. Yes.

[Jordan]

I want to be in international waters so I can do shit that people don't even dream is possible.

[Dan]

Yeah. I want to do Andy Daly character. Absolutely. Something that. Something that. One of those. Yeah. He go out in international waters that much I don't know. But there's that other guy who goes on the international waters.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But yeah, I, I think it's, it's so. It's Such a sad look. Like it's baked.

[Jordan]

It's baked. Yeah, it is.

[Dan]

And I understand if it's like a cool person that you're like, hey, man, I'd love to come to one of your. Your parties where all the brightest thinkers get together and talk literature in an Algonquin roundtable or whatever, but when you're emailing Jeffrey Epstein about wild parties in 2012. We know what you want, man.

[Jordan]

For all the fucking Pizzagate interpretation bullshit, this is as explicit as you can possibly get, that this man might actually hunt humans. If the party is that kind of party, then he'll hunt a person.

[Dan]

Well, I mean, if you don't, you're weird. No.

[Jordan]

And also he'll blackmail you and you're

[Dan]

gonna be the one hunted.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that is true.

[Dan]

You know.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, you. You gotta join the hunt part. If you're. If that's. If it's an option.

[Dan]

So I. Oh, boy. We're in dire straits with employees.

[Jordan]

Money for nothing.

[Dan]

Yeah, they do.

[Jordan]

For sure.

[Dan]

No chicks for free, but money for nothing. Money for nothing, definitely. So Chase gone. Owen's gone. Harrison's desperate to not be noticed.

[Jordan]

Non existent. I mean, even if he's there, he's not there.

[Dan]

And so we have Thomas, who we met not too long ago on an episode.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Dan]

And I am. I just regret to tell you that he's back. And the second half of Alex's show is him talking to Thomas about his research into these emails.

[Alex Jones]

Thank you for joining us. This live Saturday transmission. Our great researchers, including Thomas Siska, have now dug out even more shocking documents of the information war. It's Alex hunting humans, including groups of black people. So we're going to hit that in the latest updates on that. And then the insider trading caught red handed with Howard Ludnick, which they're trying to spin. So, Thomas, you really prepared for this? I'm trying to give you the floor. We got some clips. You're in command. Let's. Let's roll this out.

[Thomas Siska]

So these emails in the Epstein docs are showing that they're talking about hunting humans. And this one right here is specifically talking about hunting blacks. It's very peculiar because there's no sender on it. They've. There's not even a redaction. They've taken the whole sender name off. And. And it's very mysterious, if you will, but it says the snipe hunt is over. Moon crickets in field bag. And moon crickets is an old racial slur for. For blacks, for slaves. That would work overnight. And then he says, guess what there. And he drops a hard, hard R right here. That. That. That's Epstein here.

[Alex Jones]

And people say, oh, well, what's the big deal? We have even the BBC admitting these big globalist groups and organizations in Bosnian war zones doing these hunting things. This comes up over and over again. But give us the latest.

[Dan]

So he brings that up again, which is top of mind for him, in a strange way that, again, I'm uncomfortable with.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But, Yeah, I think I looked at this email, and I would say it seems pretty racist, but. But I don't think it necessarily is proof of hunting humans.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I'm fascinated by humans in a lot of ways, but this is maybe one of the biggest for me because it's very pervasive throughout, I would say, the world. Right. One of those racial slurs means the other racial slur.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

And one of those racial slurs means the other racial slur. Yet somehow one of those racial slurs can be spoken, but the other racial slur cannot be spoken.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

I find it fascinating that the meaning of those words is irrespective of the way they are treated.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that for people like Alex, who are so big on, like, tearing down the walls of PC.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, it is strange that they would treat them differently.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Huh. Anyway, I just. I think that Thomas is just green. He's inexperienced. He's not good.

[Jordan]

No. He's terrible on Mike. Like, that is real bad.

[Dan]

The emails have revealed proof of hunting humans.

[Jordan]

Tempo is bad. Like, the number of breaks are bad. Like, listen, we're all people from time to time, but even then, you got to get it in the rhythm. You got to get it in the. The tone. This dude is falling apart.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So they. They get to a little bit of riffing about what. How they interpret the emails, and it's a lot of fun. Sure.

[Thomas Siska]

So, yes, this is. This has been going on for a long time. That it's always been. It's always been talked about that these hunts happen very similar to, like, a private ranch where you'd have turkeys running around, and they're all enclosed in a place where, you know, they can't escape. So they would take humans that, you know, maybe. Maybe didn't want to be raped anymore, and we're starting to fight. And then they'd say, all right, we're gonna send you out in the field and. And we'll. We'll have our last little fun with. Well, that's a story called the. The most Dangerous game. And then we have another email here from the Rothschild, Aryan Day Rothschild. It says, thrilling hunt. Amazing old male amazing hunt. Bankers should be careful.

[Alex Jones]

So they're probably killing some globalists. That made it mad. They'll also. And again, this is in so many cultures, so much documents. This always comes out.

[Dan]

Well, we solved that one. So is the bankers. They were hunting, I guess.

[Alex Jones]

What?

[Jordan]

An old male was getting hunted.

[Dan]

Banker.

[Jordan]

See, this is the problem with the most dangerous game. It doesn't feel very dangerous.

[Dan]

An old banker.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I feel like. I feel like, listen, I've never even hunted a non human thing. I think I could hunt an old banker. I think I can handle that one.

[Dan]

You know, I think there's a range of old bankers.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Some probably a little craftier than others.

[Jordan]

I was just thinking the word crafty could be applied to an old banker. Yeah, that's true.

[Dan]

You know, someone might have been in the.

[Jordan]

They've probably got contacts.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

But I mean, we're on the island in this hunt, I imagine.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. You got it.

[Jordan]

We're not like in. We're not like in an urban setting.

[Dan]

No, no, that's true.

[Jordan]

But you could.

[Dan]

You could improvise a fair amount of sharp things in an island.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like the problem with hunting another person is that person is kind of able to hunt you back, you know, and they like know where you are.

[Dan]

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that is as dumb. And I looked at the email that they're talking about and I see no evidence that this is indicating that they hunt people.

[Jordan]

It's very racist.

[Dan]

Not this one. Oh, not the other one was.

[Jordan]

The other one was racist.

[Dan]

Yes. This one was just about an old male or something. And a thrilling hunt and bankers. Weird. Doesn't say anything. Like the Elon emails are complete thoughts.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I want to do a wild party with you. Yeah. At your island.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

These are not complete thoughts. They reference something and you don't know what it is.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And Alex has just decided what it is.

[Jordan]

Do you think they. Do you think they hunt on horseback?

[Dan]

How are you gonna get the horses to the island?

[Jordan]

I mean, hold on. They have yachts that are bigger than fucking.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So they have the capability to get horses there.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Are they horse riders, though?

[Dan]

Here's what I would say.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If they're going through the trouble to bring horses for the sake of like an equestrian experience, for the hunt, sure. I think they're gonna go farther. Like a dragon.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You think so?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, why not?

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

They're rich. They got dragons.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that does sound right.

[Dan]

Or like a big cat or something like that, you know?

[Jordan]

You know, I don't think cats have strong, like their spines aren't strong enough to hold a human. You can't write them.

[Dan]

You're the person who's saying that there's a clone out there somewhere. They could genetically modify a big cat.

[Jordan]

Okay, here's what I'm saying though. Once you're at genetically modifying a big cat with a stronger back, there's more, there's more to reach for than just hunting humans. Now you can genetically modify humans to hunt.

[Dan]

True.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

See, this is what's in the emails. When you really get down to it.

[Jordan]

When you get down to it, this is what you figure out. Yeah.

[Dan]

So Thomas has figured out some more code and good on him. I'm proud of the boy.

[Thomas Siska]

We have another email here that seems to be coded with, with the same Rothschild that says, I have your cereal can Talk tonight around 2200. So cereal seems to be another coded word.

[Jordan]

Oh my God.

[Thomas Siska]

And cereal actually in Latin is a. The word for sacrifice. It's believed or sacrificious.

[Jordan]

And oh my God, the,

[Thomas Siska]

the old world, the Romans and, and the Greeks, they would, they would have sacrifices built around their crops and their cereal crops, their grains. So you know, every, every year when they would go to have their crops, they would have a sacrifice. And so the fact that she's saying cereal here could mean that this is a code for a sacrifice. I have your sacrifice ready. We can talk about it tonight.

[Jordan]

Good.

[Thomas Siska]

I mean, why don't study anthropology.

[Alex Jones]

The Africans, the Middle Easterners, the Romans, the Asians, the Mesoamericans, they all did sacrifice around the harvest.

[Dan]

Okay, so what? So like other cultures in the past have had sacrifices around a harvest to the like God of agriculture or whatever. Doesn't mean that cereal means sacrifice in a fucking email that you read that plausibly could be about cereal.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Several thousand years before Wikipedia, people were more interested in sacrifice based weather changing. Now not so much.

[Dan]

Not, not, not as while.

[Jordan]

Yeah, been a while since you've been able to change the weather with the sacrifice.

[Dan]

I get the tenuous connection that he's making, I suppose. No, I get it.

[Jordan]

Oh, no, I can draw it. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

It's not like there is no A to B to C to whatever. It's just silly. It's stupid, this connection. Oh, the word cereal here. Oh, in Latin, cereal looks a lot like sacrifice. People would make sacrifices of grains for the harvest. Therefore, Epstein and this Rothschild person are using cereal as code for sacrifice. Thank you very much. I will take my doctorate.

[Jordan]

Here's, here's what I'll say about that. Right. If you, if I can imagine myself in the shoes of the person coming up with said slang. Right. And introducing that to another person, then explaining it, if they go, that's a stretch, then I feel like it probably didn't happen the way that, you know.

[Dan]

Yeah. I need, I need at least like a bunch of examples. Absolutely. Not just this one that he's throwing out.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

Kind of makes him sound dumb.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, you know, it's fewer letters than honey nut.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So Thomas seems to be wanting to congratulate himself for really covering this story. Deservedly so that no one else can.

[Alex Jones]

Even though I knew about this decades ago, 30 something years ago from Ted Gunderson. I still can't believe. Let me just stop you. What for you, because you've already super informed. Great guy, do a great job. What is it like to see it being confirmed though, and out in the open? This is a, this is a big moment. I don't think any of us myself realize the moment history we're in. This is the great reveal. This isn't going anywhere.

[Thomas Siska]

It just shows the arrogance. I mean for us to be the ones that are, are highlighting this and, and, and going over this every day and saying they're killing kids, they're killing kids. They're, they're doing satanic rituals. And you know, we don't see that on the mainstream news. Trump's not talking about it. Nobody in Trump's administration is talking about these, these kids. It's like the, the excuse that he just had a child prostitute seems to be the narrative for the whole thing is like, okay, this was a young promiscuous girl.

[Alex Jones]

There's a limited hangout of 14 year old girls. No, it's killing and eating people.

[Thomas Siska]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Yes. I mean, I'm sold.

[Dan]

Why won't the news cover this?

[Jordan]

I can't think of any reason why the news wouldn't cover this. Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Dan]

Tonight on cnn, cereal is used in an email. And this proves sacrifice.

[Jordan]

I mean here's, here's just another simpler reason. You're just, it's gonna be harder to go to the island to fire a gun into a restaurant there. You know, that's just not gonna happen.

[Dan]

No, that's true.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I just find this self congratulatory shit. Like it's very funny. It's like, why is no one else covering this?

[Jordan]

You're dumb to say it out loud. And then to have Alex next to you, like, rooting you on should tell you all you need to know.

[Dan]

Yeah. You're caught up in this satanic panic, and good for you, you've lost it. And

[Jordan]

it sucks that you can be so boring about what should be exciting, which is the literal devil and cannibalism

[Dan]

and human hunting and blood drinking.

[Jordan]

Exactly. That's exciting. He's boring.

[Dan]

So Thomas, he thinks, like, hey, you know what? If we're ever gonna get to the bottom of this, we're probably gonna have to, like, really start attacking the victims.

[Thomas Siska]

Some of these. Some of these kids that are getting killed and sacrificed may very well be just, you know, related to, Oh, I

[Alex Jones]

think Macron 14, recruited by the teacher. Obviously, a lot of them are actually ritual abuse victims.

[Thomas Siska]

Yes. A lot of the leaders themselves have been.

[Alex Jones]

Been.

[Thomas Siska]

Been through this. So, you know, it's tough when. When people. When people say, you know, not to go. Go after some of these people because they're victims too, at a certain point, you. You have to break free of the conditioning and. And not commit the crimes yourself and be willing to die to not per perpetuate the same evil.

[Alex Jones]

That's right. I've been so focused on this in the last three weeks that I didn't instruct the crew until now. The thousands of videos of me 30 years ago, 20 years ago, saying it's Satanism is blood drinking. Here's how it works. But we need to show people that.

[Dan]

Yeah, you're not getting enough credit. Huh? That's good. So it very well may be the case that someone who's a victim of someone like Epstein can go on to become a perpetrator themselves. And I think that's fine. But I think it's very important to point out that dipshits like Thomas and Alex can't be trusted to understand what any of that means. The type of coverage and sensationalism they engage in is fundamentally irresponsible. So they can never really be allowed to pretend that they're working with nuance. They're blunt instruments. And if they want to make up all kinds of crazy shit about Hillary Clinton or Epstein and witchcraft or cannibalism, this is dumb stuff, but it doesn't really hurt anyone. These guys don't have the discipline that's required to protect victims while trying to investigate suspects. If it feels easier to them, they will treat victims as suspects, and in the process, they open them up to all kinds of harassment and re. Traumatization. It's exactly the same sorts of behavior you've seen Alex engage in around mass shooting victims and survivors. And like you can't do that. You're not good enough to do that.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's hard to find suspects who might have done it because they're hiding. It's easier to blame victims because they're coming out and saying what they've been doing. Victimized with, you know.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

So they're visible and other people aren't. If you're lazy as fuck, boom. Who's ever visible? Done.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I think that, I think that this mentality that is clearly articulated by Thomas and Alex has said it in that Patrick Bet David interview. I believe like it's just, it's an unacceptable mission statement for them to have

[Jordan]

free yourself from the shackles of giving a shit about the people we roll over on our way to a white national nation.

[Dan]

Yeah. And like, you know, talk about Soros, talk about Hillary, the public figures and all that kind of stuff. You're just being a tabloid and like you, yeah, it probably, you know, it's dangerous for them when someone might show up with a gun or try to kill them or something but, but that doesn't happen all the time. And you're just talking shit about these public figures and what have you. When you're punching at people who are victims, you're a real piece of shit. And they should know that it's not about that. They've broken out of the conditioning of you can't question things. It's not that at all. You are not good enough to do this. You don't have skills that are required to deal with this very sensitive and painful shit. It in a way that isn't dangerous.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Anytime you're punching down, it takes a lot of words to justify it. And da da da da da. And specific context and all these things that you don't, you wouldn't understand. When you're punching up. It's real easy.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Watch this guy.

[Dan]

Watch this. They talk about Howard Lutnick.

[Alex Jones]

Punch up all you want.

[Jordan]

Punch up all you want.

[Thomas Siska]

I was giving Howard Lutnick the benefit of the doubt.

[Alex Jones]

Me too.

[Thomas Siska]

And being like, okay, you know, Trump got this guy, he seems to know a lot about commerce and the tariffs. And the tariffs to me. Sounded like the greatest thing ever financially to make these other countries pay back what they've taken from us to reboot our economy.

[Alex Jones]

No doubt. Globalism was about starting the 80s one sided trade deals to screw us to the industrializers. It was a great plan. But Ludnick the Democrat that. Nope, sorry, go ahead.

[Thomas Siska]

And you know, people were calling into the show talking about Lutnick saying hey, he wasn't there on 9 11. You know, he, he had to take his kids to school that day.

[Dan]

Trade options.

[Alex Jones]

You have to do it. We'll go ahead a moment.

[Thomas Siska]

He had to take his kid to school that day. And you know you have Larry Silverstein that didn't show up to that day either because he had a medical appointment

[Alex Jones]

and bought double insurance the week before.

[Thomas Siska]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

So instead of making like, was it 3 billion, like 6 billion or something on the towers.

[Thomas Siska]

Right.

[Alex Jones]

And terrorism insurance, which they normally won't give you, but they gave him.

[Thomas Siska]

So I wouldn't want to think that Lutnick would be willing to kill his own brother and the rest of his family if he had prior knowledge that this event was going to be taking place. However, knowing how MK Ultra works and how this black bell ring works and how Satanism works, if he is involved, does Satanism work? So if he is involved in that, that, that's, you know, a really, really dark person. That.

[Alex Jones]

But, but, but, but this is why I'm mad at myself because I, I've forgotten more than most people know. I remember on 911 and then weeks after and it happened having. It was a big stock trader, Max Kaiser on years later it was Ludnick's firm that did the main put options against the two airlines.

[Dan]

So yeah, Howard Lutnick maybe killed his own family on 911 in order to short airplane stocks or something. Sure, whatever.

[Jordan]

That seems again, it seems like they're not treating that with maybe the seriousness that it deserves. Of course not like a man killing his own family in any fashion, regardless of whether or not it is through 911 is a real tragedy.

[Dan]

No, it is, it is. But when you're talking about someone like Howard Lutnick or someone who's a public figure and someone who's like insulated in a incredibly powerful position, who cares if you're saying this kind of shit talk,

[Jordan]

yeah, fuck that guy.

[Dan]

You just can't do it with, you know, private people and people who, you know, it's so different. And I don't think that they care.

[Jordan]

No, they don't. It's just like. And it's hard to believe because it's so obvious that so few times are you in the wrong if you're punching up and so few times are you in the right if you're punching down. How is this complicated.

[Dan]

It shouldn't be.

[Jordan]

It seems so simple.

[Dan]

Mm. So Alex has a email here that he's just sort of lying about.

[Alex Jones]

Emails came out last week, and they're where they're going. Oh, yeah. It wasn't really. Hijackers. I fly the plane. Remote control. They're, like, bragging about ham. Remote control baby. Which was what it was.

[Thomas Siska]

Yes.

[Dan]

Remote control baby.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's remote control baby.

[Dan]

Yeah, that was in the emails. Remote control baby. Yeah. So I guess 9, 11.

[Jordan]

Solved again. What a weird thing. He murders an entire family just to make some money. Finger guns, buddy. Oh, boy, baby. Yikes.

[Dan]

So, yeah, that. That. That email is real. No, but the ones with Steve Bannon are.

[Jordan]

That is a problem.

[Dan]

And Alex and Thomas get to talking about Bannon a little bit, and Alex, he really think he feels like he's close to, like, I'm gonna take the shot.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, well, I'm not defending Bannon, but Bannon's a pure political animal. So he went from a brokerage guy and a Hollywood guy to, like, in the Trump White House, he. You go to the. The Rothschild representative, you go to the Rothschild agent. You go to the David Rockefeller Trilateral Commission agent if you want this power. So, I mean, he put the ring on Bannon, met with the devil. He went to the island. Now it's coming out. He didn't tell people. That's bad. And people aren't even scared to even attack him, from what I'm told. It's just that they're like, wow, this is terrible. And. And they're just kind of, like, waiting to say. What do we say? Well, like, I don't even call Ben. And he used to send me text articles, news. Hey, let's get this judge in. Let's, you know, help promote this all is pro America. And the stuff that's in there is like, let's get rid of the leftist in the UK and Europe. And he's got Epstein helping him do that. You know, it's like, that's weird. So it's like, the work is mainly good. That's why I'm like, I'm sorry. Like, what am I gonna do? Cause, like, Baron's doing a lot of good stuff here, but excuse me. He's also making jokes about, you know, young girls with Epstein. So, yeah, the island not telling people. He should have come clean earlier. See, I'm already going where I'm going, but I got a really. I don't. I want to do this right, because I want to write a bunch of notes Get a bunch of exhibits. It just. The point is, he put the Ring of Mordor on.

[Dan]

So that's an excuse that Alex uses for people when he says that they put the Ring of Mordor on. That's a way for him to preserve the decency of the person.

[Jordan]

Frodo put the ring on.

[Dan]

Right?

[Jordan]

Yeah, he had.

[Dan]

Putting on the ring is saying that, like, yeah, some of these actions are evil, but the person's good. Maybe it's unwise to put on the ring. So there's this just fucking.

[Jordan]

According to literally every wise person in the book, period. It is unwise to put on the ring. But who knows? Yeah, could be anything.

[Dan]

But Alex just. He feels like. It's like, okay, Bannon sucks. He sucks. He went to the island. He didn't fucking tell anybody. He's making jokes about underage people with Bannon. They are with Epstein. But he's also doing this good stuff that I like. Where's he going with this?

[Jordan]

Knowing. Knowing how Satanism works. There are a lot of, kind of just Christmas and Easter Satanists. So, yeah, he's a Satanist who went to the island and met with the devil or whatever, but it's like, it's not that big of a deal, you know, it's like he's more even a cultural Satanist, really. You know?

[Dan]

Okay, now that's interesting. So I just don't know what Alex's position is. I can't, I can't tell. Like, he seems to.

[Jordan]

Pretty easy.

[Dan]

He wants to attack Bannon, but he's not letting himself.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And the feeling that I got is like, I think he just doesn't know if he's allowed to.

[Alex Jones]

Here's my problem with the Bannon thing. You read what he's doing in all of this. It's overall pro freedom, anti globalist. Other than undermining Trump and saying maybe we should 25th amendment Trump. But he'll say, well, I was doing that to get the confidence of the bad guy. You could hear that argument. The silence is very loud.

[Thomas Siska]

There's an email from Bannon saying that he's the one who got John Bolton into the Trump administration.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, no, I, I, I, I, I think man is bad. A chameleon. And when he saw us winning, the Liberty Movement winning. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying I'm. That's where I'm going.

[Jordan]

You just said he was there, yet

[Alex Jones]

it's kind of like, you got a bacon.

[Jordan]

You just said you think he's bad.

[Alex Jones]

It's Rising. It's not done yet.

[Jordan]

It's done.

[Alex Jones]

Fried an egg. It's getting crispy, but you gotta flip it. And when I'm done, I'm gonna. Missiles up. But I'm not ready yet.

[Dan]

I haven't heard back from the people who tell me if it's okay for me to burn Ben.

[Jordan]

And this feels very. I have not.

[Dan]

Roger hasn't gone back to me. I don't know exactly what I'm supposed to do.

[Jordan]

What are my marching orders?

[Dan]

Because obviously, on the surface, I should be guns blazing on this guy.

[Jordan]

Seems very easy. He's a Satanist.

[Dan]

He's bad. A couple seconds later.

[Jordan]

I'm not saying he's bad.

[Alex Jones]

Come on.

[Jordan]

I'm not saying he's bad.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan]

You know what everybody loves from their tip of the spear? Real wishy washy nonsense.

[Dan]

Yeah. Ambivalent double talk.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That makes me. If I hear from a leader, ambivalent double talk. I say, sir, I will follow.

[Dan]

Yeah. So I think what's going on for Alex is that he thinks that there's a way to save Bannon.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And so he pitches to Bannon, like, what you need to do in order to make it out of this.

[Alex Jones]

All right, here's what I think. He was a social climber, political guy, smart, got in, kissed the ass. The system got in. Overall, I think it was a populous patriot, but. But wore the ring of Mordor. And then he knew this was coming out years ago, so he really proved himself. Him and Epstein talk about, I'm gonna be this media guy, so I'm a counter. He told Epcine that, too. So he wanted to reprove himself ahead of all this and build a network so important that people would forgive him for this. Steve, you need to spill your guts. And. And I think you'll be forgiven because I think I get the picture of what you did. But you need to tell us that's what it is, or you're fried, bro. You're fucked. You're fucked.

[Dan]

So, yeah, here's the storyline that we'll accept. And if you want to do that, good. Otherwise, I probably am going to have to really take these things seriously.

[Jordan]

You're a great guy. You've done a lot of good work. It seems like it should be harder for me to forgive pedophilia. But on the other hand, I guess it's not you.

[Dan]

Bannon made a calculation that there was gonna be stuff about you that came out.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And so you made a network that was too big to fail and would be too damaging for Us to attack.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

In order to insulate yourself from the consequences of these things coming out.

[Jordan]

Oh, you know who else did that? Jeffrey Epstein.

[Dan]

Oh, man. You know, the two of them did this long interview.

[Jordan]

Oh, really?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh, did they know each other for a really long time?

[Dan]

Seemed friendly.

[Jordan]

Huh.

[Dan]

Yeah. So, anyway, good luck, Bannon.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Good luck, Alex. Figuring out how to spin this fucking thing.

[Jordan]

Why?

[Dan]

But we have one last clip here, and it's Alex telling Congress what they need to do.

[Jordan]

That's a real good question. What does Congress need to do?

[Dan]

Give me the fucking names.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Give me the names.

[Alex Jones]

All right, I want to see those names. And so I'm gonna tell. I'm telling everybody here because we've had this for weeks. And I've seen Annapolina Luna, who I love, calls me all the time. We talk, all you guys saying, oh, God, it's horrible. You won't believe the names. Release the names. Okay. I don't cuss. I got a big vocabulary, but gets people attention when I say it. Release it. Release it. Fucking release it. It. Everybody better start beating the drum. Hey, you. Congress, including Hakeem Jeffries and AAC and the senators. All of them. Yeah, I see these Democrat senators. Oh, Trump's in there a million times. Yeah, all of them. But just the Democrats he's involved in.

[Dan]

Cover up.

[Alex Jones]

We're not absconding for him. I want the very big vocabulary, the fucking redacted names.

[Jordan]

You have it.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, there's more stuff we haven't got. Great. Get that. Don't you distract. Are you see what I'm saying here?

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

It's pretty easy to see what you're saying here. What, the fucking names.

[Jordan]

Not whenever you use the word absconding to mean protecting.

[Dan]

Sure, yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think you're in trouble when you're screaming at Congress to give you the fucking names.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And then you have to make a quick caveat that, yeah, Trump, his name's in there, but it's all bullshit. What he's doing is covering it up.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

That's not good. You're in a bad spot.

[Jordan]

See, I'm mad at Congress for being too weak to do something about it, but I'm mad at Trump for being too strong to allow them to do something about it.

[Dan]

And Trump, if you think about it, is too strong to not get involved.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

You know, like, a lot of people would just, you know, be a bystander watching this mess happen.

[Alex Jones]

No, no, no, no.

[Dan]

He. He rolled up his sleeves and decided, I'm getting. I'm getting messy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I'm getting to the middle of this thing. I'm covering it up. I. I mean, what a hero.

[Jordan]

I don't know how these. You know, it's like, like there's. There is a part of me that has a, like, I don't know what I would describe it as. Like a, A, A visceral admiration. I don't think my physical form would be capable of continuing to make words in defense of Donald Trump at this point. Right. Like, I literally think it's not physically possible for me. So in a way, there is something that they can do that I can't do.

[Dan]

No, definitely. And I think that that's the overall feeling that I board from this episode.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is that Alex is very near his breaking point of being able to do that right there. Is this, like, real, like. Oh, God damn it. I'm not gonna fucking. I'm not gonna let my dad get away with murder. I'm not covering up this Trump. I can't do this. But also, lesser of two evils. I can't put up with Bannon doing these. But he also did a lot of great stuff trying to destroy the leftists. Like, he's just stuck. There's just. And it's kind of funny.

[Jordan]

Yeah. But you know what really sucks about that is that people do get, like, anything. People just get inured to it, you know, and it's like, well, you know, I haven't done anything about this, so the next thing, I'm going to have the same wishy washy conversation with myself about it because I didn't do anything about the last time.

[Dan]

So why would this time take us back to 2006.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

The executive must be punished, or else we're gonna end in 2026.

[Jordan]

It's hard not to think that there was something to be said about that.

[Dan]

Yeah. Alex had a point back then. He also was wrong about a lot of other stuff.

[Jordan]

He was wrong about everything.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't know. It's interesting to come, you know, and see this. This vision of him after enjoying some of the 2006 times. The starkness of his abilities, his skills, his tool set.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Like, it's just. They're so different. He sucks a lot now.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It is. It is like a. I don't know. It is. It is like that VH1 behind the Music kind of rhythm of like, all right, we're coming up here and now we're in the follow years and, you know, that whole thing. And he's not going to have A reunion tour?

[Dan]

No, I don't.

[Jordan]

That's not happening.

[Dan]

I don't think so. And I think that, you know, like the skills and the ability that he's putting forth here in this, this present day episode, like, he's really lucky that he tried hard earlier.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because this person has no place in the market. There's nothing interesting or compelling about what he can do now. It's all just coasting on the reputation that he built in VHS and early Internet days.

[Jordan]

Legacy. Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think that that's good, Good, good for you. Enjoy your phone call with Steve Bannon. Yeah, we'll see how that goes.

[Jordan]

Oh, God.

[Dan]

But yeah, I don't know. How do you feel?

[Jordan]

I feel like Satanism used to be a much more. Used to be a much bigger deal breaker. You know, like even worshiping Satan a little bit was going to get you in trouble. Now we're getting all like, well, you know, Satanists can do good, right?

[Dan]

Satanism, you can toe dip. You know, you can like check in a little.

[Jordan]

Okay, you guys, you know what? Maybe you guys have a point. Satan, I feel like you can't, you can't even have a little bit of that.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's, it's. Yeah, it should be. If you touch the water, you're. You get sucked in. You know, like that's a, that's how it's supposed to be.

[Jordan]

It's almost like maybe in every possible telling of a Satan story, there's a small crack at first that gets a person to do something that maybe they wouldn't otherwise do, that allows Satan in. And then all of a sudden, after a period of time, Satan has taken over.

[Dan]

I've heard these stories.

[Jordan]

It's almost like it's literally every single fucking story.

[Dan]

Speaking of Satan, though, I really do want Alex's Bone Temple Review because I wonder what he would think of Ray Fines.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Doing the musical number.

[Jordan]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. God, is that. Would that be. Dude, you have to think he would think it was cool, cuz it is cool. But it also has to be predictive programming. Right?

[Dan]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Jordan]

All right, all right.

[Dan]

Alex is on Manect now. No, I don't want to waste the money.

[Jordan]

We're not doing it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely.

[Dan]

Try and get him to do a Bone Temple Review.

[Jordan]

Absolutely not.

[Dan]

All right, fine. It's not worth it.

[Jordan]

I'd rather spend 50,000 getting Patrick bet Dave, whatever his name is, get him to do a Bone Temple review about the Bone Devil.

[Alex Jones]

Pdp.

[Dan]

All right, fine. Yeah, we'll find something that he's done. We'll be in the past or the present, who knows? But we'll be back. Yeah, but until then. We have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do. It's Knowledge Fight dot com.

[Dan]

Yep, we'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the sex robot.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Thing.

[Thomas Siska]

Hello, Alex.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.

[Jordan]

I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.