#1126: Do Not Drink In The Pool

Summary

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Knowledge Fight #1126: "Do Not Drink In The Pool"

Date: March 20, 2026
Hosts: Dan and Jordan

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Episode Overview

This episode of Knowledge Fight finds Dan and Jordan dissecting Alex Jones's recent, chaotic appearance on Tim Pool's podcast. Using clips, analysis, and their trademark irreverence, Dan and Jordan explore what happens when a struggling, intoxicated Alex Jones enters an ecosystem of equally unserious and conspiratorial right-wing media figures. The episode is a journey through bad faith arguments, gross-out humor, and the decline of right-wing entertainment, all deeply colored by Jones's visible personal and professional unraveling.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Opening Bright Spots & Live Show Announcement

• The episode opens with playful banter and the hosts’ “Bright Spot” tradition, this time highlighting a positive movie experience and the announcement of an upcoming Knowledge Fight live show at Two Brothers Roundhouse in the greater Chicagoland area (tickets on sale Saturday at 9am).
  Memorable Moment: Recalling an early, sparsely attended live show where someone in the audience asked Dan to pass a 30-pack of beer onstage.
  [04:52] “Nothing quite like when we did that show at the playground. And in the middle of the show, someone in the audience asked me to pass the 30 pack of beer that was on stage.” — Dan

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2. Who is Tim Pool, and Why Does He Matter?

• Dan explains Knowledge Fight rarely covers Tim Pool because Pool isn’t sincere, just chases clicks.
• Tim Pool is described as a “shithead” whose beliefs are guided by profit rather than conviction.
• The appeal here is in watching Alex Jones awkwardly exist in others’ spaces.
  [09:41] “Tim Pool doesn’t suck in the right way for me to find interesting at all. He’s a shithead and I hate his beliefs, but I don’t believe that his beliefs are sincere.” — Dan

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3. Tim Pool’s Show: Setting the (Low) Bar

• Dan and Jordan critique Tim’s show for its reliance on clickbait, misrepresentation, and sensation.
• Discussion of Tim’s alarmist framing around terrorism, especially Muslim terrorism in the context of recent attacks, as a right-wing tactic to instill fear and drive GOP votes.
• Analysis: It’s not about facts; it’s about creating a “problem-reaction-solution” cycle to justify more authoritarian politics.
• Parallels drawn to historical racism and Japanese internment as similar processes. [14:23] “It’s hard not to look at this and go, Japanese internment camps. We doing that again, huh?” — Jordan

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4. Decline of Content Quality in Modern Right-Wing Media

• Critique of Tim Pool’s outrage over British currency and the House of Lords, showing how content is manufactured to fill air time.
• Dan points out how right-wing media, like Pool’s podcast, simulate the worst of commercial radio by padding out run time with trivialities and misinformation for ad revenue and algorithmic advantage. [17:11] “Ironically, Tim Pool is creating the exact thing that podcasting succeeded in spite of.” — Dan

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5. Alex Jones Enters—Visibly Intoxicated (and Unwell)

• Alex is introduced on Tim Pool’s show and immediately launches into bizarre, profane jokes about Joe Rogan, including repeated references to Rogan’s “vagina”.
• His conduct is erratic, slurred, and veers quickly to challenging everyone to a fight.
• Dan and Jordan emphasize: Alex is drunk, and the entire room is awkwardly laughing at him, not with him. [19:35] “I was thinking about Joe Rogan’s vagina right now.” — Alex Jones
  [23:46] “Every man in here. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Let’s go. 8. Let’s go.” — Alex Jones

On Manipulating “Prophecy” for Comedy

• Dan underscores why it’s abusive when Alex jokes that God told him to do things (and sometimes expects his audience to take those same claims seriously). [25:41] “Prophecy is a joke to him. And the audience is the butt of the joke. That’s not cool.” — Dan

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6. Drunken Chaos, Homoerotic Fantasies, and Loss of Control

• The hosts dissect the weird, homoerotic imagery in Alex’s rants about “neocon cocks” and Trump, speculating it reveals more than Alex intends.
• Tim Pool and his co-hosts try to rein Alex in or redirect the conversation, but are powerless—“You’ve got a drunk gorilla...who really wants to talk about vaginas.” — Jordan, [32:08]

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7. Geopolitics, Conspiracy, and Logical Collapse

• Discussion transitions to the Iran war, Israel, and Project for a New American Century. Dan points out: Alex and these hosts are advocating “false flag” logic they claim to oppose.
• Alex drunkenly suggests genocide:
  [37:07] “If there was a magic red button to send the muzzles (Muslims) to Mars, I'd hit it. Islam’s cancer.”
• Jordan and Dan reflect on the genocidal implications, and the reduction of millions to abstract threats.

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8. Monarchist Leanings and Anti-Americanism

• Extended riff on the ridiculousness of Tim Pool’s defense of hereditary monarchy in the UK, and call for “native-born” American-only leadership.
• Dan and Jordan highlight the underlying racism (“sixth generation Virginians” should run for office), the contradiction to “meritocracy,” and how these right-wing figures fundamentally reject pluralistic American ideals. [58:12] “Tim and Alex would prefer an ethnic dictatorship and monarchy to a constitutional republic.” — Dan
  [67:34] “I believe that you should have to be born here to run profit.” — Tim Pool

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9. Disaster on Air: Alex’s Health Crisis

• As the show drags on, Alex devolves further, suffering a severe coughing fit that alarms the entire room.
• He claims it’s “allergies,” but everyone, including Pool, suspects serious intoxication and deeper health problems. [70:12] “You all right? I’m tired. Yeah. No, we're winning, so.” — Alex Jones
  [71:56] “I was terrified while that was happening. I was just watching him and trying to stay calm.” — Ian

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10. Unintentional Metaphors & Aftermath

• Even among friends/like-minded figures, Alex cannot keep up; can’t follow the conversation, gives disjointed answers, and ultimately announces he has to leave.
• After Alex exits, the rest of Tim Pool's panel reflects live on his state, agreeing he was drunk, unhealthy, and unable to perform. [85:04] “Normally I wouldn’t talk about stuff like this, but like, we’re literally live when it happened and the chat is lighting up…” — Tim Pool
• Dan and Jordan sum up: Alex’s inability to take advantage of a major platform signals his growing irrelevance and personal collapse even among right-wing media.

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• On the Absurdity of the Conversation:

  • [55:15] “Alex is the void where conversation gets sucked into.” — Dan

• On Tim Pool’s Political Yearning:

  • [58:28] “Go join the red coat, shit bird.” — Jordan

• On the Show’s Ethical Collapse:

  • [76:06] “If I’m running the show, I’m going, well fuck that guy. I don't want him on my show.” — Jordan

• On Alex’s Departure:

  • [82:05] “Joe Rogan's vagina, huh? Is like the goddess that will float down…” — Alex Jones (departing in drunken non sequitur)

• Post-Alex Reflection:

  • [85:32] “He’s got a drinking problem.” — Tim Pool

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Important Timestamps

• [04:52] — Early live show anecdotes
• [09:41] — Dan explains why they ignore Tim Pool
• [14:23, 14:28] — Discussing right-wing fear tactics and internment parallels
• [19:35] — Alex’s first “Joe Rogan’s vagina” line
• [23:46] — Challenges the room to a brawl
• [25:41] — Dan on Alex’s abuse of "prophecy"
• [37:07] — Alex’s genocidal red button comment
• [58:12] — Monarchy vs. democracy debate
• [67:34] — Tim Pool supports hereditary citizenship for office
• [70:12] — The on-air health/coughing crisis
• [82:05] — Alex’s final, incoherent words as he exits
• [85:32] — Tim Pool and panel discuss Alex’s drinking problem

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Final Analysis & Tone

The hosts maintain the sarcastic, biting tone that defines Knowledge Fight, teetering between genuine concern (for Alex’s health and the platform’s irresponsibility) and exasperated amusement at the spectacle of a fading conspiracy king’s meltdown in a carnival of right-wing grifters. The episode highlights:

• The emptiness and self-serving nature of modern reactionary media
• The personal and ideological decay of its central figures
• The wild disconnect between right-wing rhetoric and American values
• The responsibility (or lack thereof) of platforms hosting unstable, dangerous figures

Dan and Jordan close with the sense that Alex Jones’s time atop the right-wing outrage complex is ending not with a bang, but with a drunken, self-parodic whimper.

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For: Listeners seeking a chronological, in-depth breakdown, notable quotes, and context for each part of the chaos.

Transcript

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert. Red alert. Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgefire.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge flight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight.

[Dan]

Need money.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas. Andy and Andy. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Dan]

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller.

[Jordan]

I'm a huge fan.

[Alex Jones]

I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

We're a couple dudes. Like to sit worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Dan]

Dan, Jordan.

[Jordan]

Dan, Jordan.

[Tim Pool]

Jordan.

[Jordan]

Quick question for you.

[Dan]

What's up?

[Jordan]

How's Survivor doing?

[Dan]

You know what, I gotta stop you because I have a bright spot and I go first and the month of March has this tradition.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And I'm not talking about Survivor.

[Jordan]

Okay, okay. Don't talk about Survivor.

[Dan]

I want to talk about it. Look, I had fun with this bit, but maybe it's just. Maybe it's run its course. Who knows? I don't really have that many things to say about it.

[Jordan]

Bits come and go anyway.

[Dan]

I still.

[Jordan]

It's a boomerang bit, if you will.

[Dan]

Yeah. It has come back to me and now I'd like to drop it and. No, my bright spot. I'm gonna throw out the movie. Good luck. Have fun. Don't die.

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah, that's great.

[Dan]

I watched that. Check that out. Had a great time with it.

[Jordan]

Grand movie.

[Dan]

Such fun. Sam Rockwell is just on fire.

[Jordan]

Perfect.

[Dan]

Just a nice, goofy, fun time that also feels like it's saying something.

[Ian]

Yep.

[Jordan]

I mean, no notes. Fantastic job, guys. If you. If you don't like parts of it, I. Yeah, that's fine. People like parts of it. But I thought it was great.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I think that it really benefited from this. Doing something new.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Lately. Which is I'm going into movies not knowing anything about what's going on.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Just complete. Complete blank slate.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think that I. Not knowing what this was going to be like or how this, you know, I think that really made the experience a lot better.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I agree.

[Dan]

Like, I can't. I'm sure Hamnet is good.

[Jordan]

Are you?

[Dan]

No. Okay. But I know too much.

[Jordan]

I've seen too much about the. About the. The characters. About play.

[Dan]

I saw the trailer and. That's too much.

[Jordan]

That is too much.

[Dan]

I saw the trailer for Good Luck, have Fun, Don't Die. I didn't really know what the fuck is going on here. I. This could go 100 different directions. No, I feel like I know Hamnet.

[Jordan]

Hamnet told you exactly what you were going to see. And you don't really need to see that.

[Dan]

They might do it.

[Jordan]

Well, maybe they did.

[Dan]

I don't care.

[Jordan]

No, not particularly.

[Dan]

Not going to see Hamnet. Not going to see the Smashing Machine. You can't make me.

[Jordan]

No. I'll never see Nuremberg either. Not going to happen.

[Dan]

That's on your list of the. You can't. You can watch that.

[Jordan]

No, I see it. I know what it is. I know the guy. I even know some of the stories about how articulate and. Bullshit. Fuck that. I don't need to see the movie.

[Dan]

Fine.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I'm not making you.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I don't want to.

[Dan]

So it's your bright spot.

[Jordan]

My bright spot, Dan, is that sometimes we go out of this room.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

To do a version of our show in a place with other people.

[Dan]

That has happened.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And so my bright spot is that we'll be doing it again.

[Dan]

What?

[Jordan]

Yeah. On May 16th.

[Dan]

Huh?

[Jordan]

Yeah, you better believe it. At Two Brothers. Two Brothers Roundhouse. Yep. So what you can do is go get tickets on Saturday morning at 9am that's when the tickets will go live.

[Dan]

We'll put the link in the description to this episode. It's a smaller venue, so, like, you know, probably might sell out.

[Jordan]

I would.

[Dan]

Yeah, I would send one arm come do it.

[Jordan]

I mean, it would not bother us at all if it took like two months to sell it. No big deal. But if I was you, I would be. I would set an alarm at 9.

[Dan]

It's a nice brewery. Our friend Matt Drufke does a show there.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. We're excited to do a show. Yeah, it'll be. It'll be great.

[Dan]

I think this is the first show in Chicago since that one at the playground where no one came because no one knew what our show was.

[Jordan]

Yep. I mean, it's. And it's not even in Chicago. It's fair.

[Dan]

Chicagoland.

[Jordan]

Greater Chicagoland area. But man, for all those people, nothing.

[Dan]

Nothing quite like when we did that show at the playground. And in the middle of the show, someone in the audience asked me to pass the 30 pack of beer that was on stage.

[Jordan]

Amazing.

[Alex Jones]

Hey, Greg.

[Dan]

You were those.

[Jordan]

And of course we did.

[Alex Jones]

Yes.

[Jordan]

They got It.

[Dan]

Times have changed.

[Jordan]

What. What an interesting. I bet none of them even have any clue that. That though there were, like, four people.

[Dan]

No, because, like, Kevin Hogan and Nate Burroughs, like, Burroughs left. Your wife was there.

[Luke]

Like.

[Jordan]

I know my wife.

[Dan]

There were our friends.

[Jordan]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ian]

There were.

[Jordan]

I'm. I'm pretty sure there were people there who did not know.

[Dan]

Derek Smith was there.

[Jordan]

Derek Smith was definitely there, I think. Absolutely. I think that was where he made. He gave us those shirts.

[Dan]

Yeah. Ketchup and mustard shirts.

[Jordan]

Those are great.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yep. So, Memory Lane.

[Dan]

Anyway, two brothers.

[Jordan]

Two brothers.

[Dan]

Tickets on sale Saturday.

[Jordan]

Saturday morning, 9:00am Central Time.

[Dan]

Fun.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So, Jordan, today is something less fun. We have an episode to go over and we'll talk about it in a moment. But first, let's take a moment to say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

That's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first, thank you for coming to Portland and for getting me through my commute. I will never see 420 the same way again. Holly, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

AC Green.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Next. DMagic loves Dan's rap references. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And tell Alyssa Moore that Lee Men loves her and the horse she rode in on. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And we got technical credit in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to can my dog Wink be a policy wonk. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

So things are bad for Alex.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You know, he's going about his business and having to defend all kinds of things that he shouldn't be defending.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And you know, the. The March 7th date has come and gone. Sure. With his possibly going out of business. And so it just bores me that we're going to have to stay in the present day and talk about his. His. His show.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Who is that? Who's that coming down Is that Tim Pool? Oh, my God.

[Dan]

Is that a chair?

[Jordan]

Wait, who's Tim Pool? Is that guy.

[Dan]

Tim Pool's another.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's one of those guys.

[Dan]

Yeah. Alex.

[Jordan]

Shit.

[Dan]

Alex was recently on Tim Pool's show.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God. Why?

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Jordan]

Oh, man. All right.

[Dan]

There's a part of me that feels like in this era of Alex, it's kind of more fun to watch him be put upon other people.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Dan]

There's something about them. There's a. There's an inherent embarrassment to them interacting with him.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That doesn't sue. It doesn't really totally exist for him.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He's shameless.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And so like him, he doesn't need to be embarrassed to be himself.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But these other people should be embarrassed to be talking to him.

[Jordan]

Yeah. If you've got a man made of shit, then the shit man is like, I'm. I know I'm made of shit. You're the one who's covered in shit.

[Dan]

I can't get shit on.

[Jordan]

I am shit. I'm just a shit man. Yeah, you're now. You smell bad now. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

So he was on Tim Pool's show and something funny happened. So we'll.

[Jordan]

So there we are. Here we are.

[Dan]

So in the course of doing this show, one of the biggest and most popular figures in the right wing media is someone that we've largely ignored. That person is Tim Pool. And the reason I've never really been too interested in covering him is that he's not a serious person with serious convictions. He's really just someone who's interested in attention and he's made it clear throughout his career that he's willing to lie and contradict himself if there's enough clicks in it for him. So it's not worth trying to grab onto.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

If you go to his pages on Rumble and other platforms, all of his video titles are clickbait bullshit. Like they finally said it or it's actually happening.

[Jordan]

Is it?

[Dan]

Yeah, apparently.

[Jordan]

Oh, good, that's nice. I haven't seen things actually happen for quite some time.

[Dan]

Yeah. Russell Brand does the same kind of shit. And Alex has his own version where everything is always an emergency episode. It's a sign of desperation, but also it must work. Even if 80% of the people who see these titles laugh and think you look like a sad child begging for attention, the other 20% might be curious enough to see if this is finally the video with a title like that, that pays off. And that might Add up to a fair amount of traffic. Enough to pay the bills.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Either way, Tim Pool doesn't suck in the right way for me to find interesting at all. He's a shithead, and I hate his beliefs, but I don't believe that his beliefs are sincere. If someone paid him enough, I'm pretty sure he'd say whatever he needed to for the check to clear. Yeah, but Alex was on Tim Pool's show, and I think there's something more appealing about seeing Alex trying to exist in other people's spaces. So we're gonna take this in and see what there is to learn, which is not much. And Alex might be dying.

[Jordan]

Yay.

[Dan]

So we start off with Tim Pool.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Talking about the wave of Islamic terrorism that's going on in the United States.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Today we saw two attacks, and we know one of them was a man who yelled Allahu Akbar. The other attack on a synagogue. It is suspected to be Islamic terror. So the rumors going around are that we had two Islamic terror attacks, possibly retaliation over the war in Iran, which we had seen another terror attack in New York City, the throwing of an improvised explosive device, as well as the attack in Austin. So, of course, the expectation is. Well, we don't have the complete information. The synagogue attack, it was a vehicle reportedly owned by a man from Lebanon who was naturalized and lived in Dearborn, Michigan. So many people are saying, hey, that, you know, if it looks and sounds like a duck.

[Dan]

I feel like Tim likes to present himself as someone who's above the if it looks like a duck level of reasoning. A lot of animals who aren't ducks look like ducks, man. The temple attack that he's talking about in Michigan appears to have been carried out by a guy who has family in Lebanon. The perpetrator died in the attack, thankfully, the only casualty of it. So we may never know exactly why he did it, but there are some indications that he had family members in Hezbollah who were killed in Israel's recent strikes on Lebanon. It would be somewhat inaccurate to say that this is the same thing as his attack being inspired by Trump's attack on Iran. But at the same time, there's good reason to believe many of these actions are happening in the shared context of a larger war.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

So while I don't agree with the way the Tim's framing this, someone else might be able to make a better argument using similar pieces.

[Jordan]

I was. I was wondering about that. Like, can it. Is it a terror attack? You know, that's. That's a really interesting kind of distinction to make in the context that we're in. Is it a terrorist or is it like a just response? It's not one you like, but I think.

[Dan]

I think if you wanted to make an argument using some definition of terrorist, that this isn't terrorist terrorism, sure, I think you maybe could be successful with that. But also, I think that generally speaking, the way we use language, yeah, it's some. It's terrorists.

[Jordan]

I do not want to make an argument. I was just a thought that I had.

[Dan]

So the other attack Tim is talking about was at Old Dominion University, where a former National Guard member shot at students at an ROTC class. He yelled Allahu Akbar before shooting. But this also isn't super surprising because he had gotten out of jail recently, where he was serving a sentence after pleading guilty to providing material support to isis. These are awful tragedies, and no one should have to experience this kind of shit. But from a media messaging standpoint, it's critical to understand that Tim and his ilk need to amp up the idea that there's a clear and existential threat from Muslims in America. The premise of supporting Trump has become silly at this point. So the only way to keep the public engaged and on board is through a campaign of terror about the enemy within. It's basically a problem reaction solution type thing.

[Jordan]

Something along those lines.

[Dan]

The solution they need to push is voting for Republicans in the 2026 midterms. Even though all of these candidates have been shit and Trump is clearly a tyrant, most people aren't interested in voting for these guys and honestly might not want to even vote at all after all this shit. In order to get the solution that they want, folks like Tim create the appearance of a problem, in this case, widespread, out of control Muslim terrorism. He'll bang the drum on how this is the biggest problem in the world and how society will collapse unless someone takes care of it. This is his work to help produce the desired reaction, which is having a large segment of the population demand that some leader come along who promises to take care of the Muslim terrorism problem. And if you can make people demand and need this kind of protection from a leader, you can get them to accept the solution they wouldn't have accepted before. You have to vote for all the GOP candidates because if you don't, the Democrats will win and they're working with the Muslim terrorists who want to kill you.

[Jordan]

What you gonna do?

[Dan]

Boom.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's hard not to look at this and go, japanese internment camps. We doing that again, huh? All right.

[Dan]

If Tim had his way. If Tim and Alex, like, based on what they're saying had their way, I would. It's not too far off.

[Jordan]

This is the start of that. It's not like they went from zero to Japanese internment camp. There had to be a. There had to be a beginning of, like. Well, we know these two things are connected, so what do we have to do about that?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And so on.

[Dan]

So Tim has another news story that's gonna lead the coverage of the day.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And then, of course, the UK is officially over. They have ended. Yay, House of Lords. And they're removing their civic leaders from their currency to be replaced by the noble hedgehog and perhaps a beaver and other nature scenes. Because the tradition is basically gone. We're. And a whole lot more, my friends, before we do get a great sponsor for you, it is Beam Dream. Head over to shop b e a m.com Tim Pool and pick up your nighttime sleep blend to support Better sleep.

[Dan]

Beam Dream.

[Jordan]

Beam Dream, baby.

[Dan]

I couldn't tell if you said Bean Dream.

[Jordan]

I heard it was coffee.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know. Anyway, the House of Lords is one of the chambers of Parliament and they recently adopted a bill that would remove the remaining people who are in the body just because of a title that was handed down to them generations.

[Jordan]

Yeah, obviously that makes sense.

[Dan]

This is a continuation of a bill from 1999 that limited the number of hereditary peers who could sit in the house to 92. And honestly, the House of Lords is kind of silly. Obviously it includes 26 members who are known as the Lord Spiritual because they're archbishops and church figures, and then the rest are Lords temporal.

[Jordan]

Great. Amazing.

[Dan]

But let the Brits be Brits.

[Jordan]

It's Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Crazy stuff. Anyway, the UK isn't over unless Tim thinks that power being handed down generationally is a good thing, which. Which I think he will say later.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

Also, Tim is just an idiot about the pound. In 2025, they decided to explore putting conservation themed fronts on the bills, replacing the previous series that had featured folks like Winston Churchill, Alan Turing and Jane Austen. That was series G of the currency and it was introduced in 2011, but it was never meant to be permanent. Prior to that, they had series F that featured a 20 pound note with Adam Smith on it, and series E that had Darwin on the 10. All the while, the Queen was on the other side of those bills. And that's not changing, except it'll be the King. This naturally raises the question of why the fuck does Tim Pool care about the aesthetic Design of another country's money. My question, and the other, like, the obvious answer is that he doesn't. One of his staff just skimmed past a headline on Twitter or in the Daily Mail, and they decided that it was good enough to fake some concern about. And hopefully they can kill a few minutes of the show talking about it. This is just wasting time between ads.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

It couldn't be more like dumb like morning radio.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Got a new British pound. Does that mean we're going to get rid of hereditary titles?

[Jordan]

But right. We have to fill time. So much time. You don't even know how much time we have to fill in. If you've ever tried to do morning radio, it never ends.

[Dan]

Ironically, Tim Pool is creating the exact thing that podcasting succeeded in spite of. It was a reaction to the vapidity of that form of content.

[Jordan]

What if we just didn't have to. What if instead of having to do four hours of nonsense, we could just do the stuff that is sense?

[Dan]

Yeah. Cut the fat off this thing.

[Jordan]

Somehow that was, like, turned around on us and going like, well, we need to fit four different ad breaks. So that means that you need to record for at least two hours. That means we need to have at least three to six minutes of ads.

[Dan]

YouTube's algorithms have made it so they prioritize time. And so these videos that I put out have to be at least two hours long. Fuck.

[Jordan]

Oh.

[Dan]

Anyway, it sucks.

[Jordan]

It does.

[Dan]

And it reminds me of bad stuff I used to listen to on Y107.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Anyway, another story that he covers before bringing Alex in is about Rogan.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

They're going to do this UFC event at the White House.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Got rid of the UFC of Lords.

[Dan]

No, they're going to. They're going to do a big UFC event at the White House. Did you know about this?

[Jordan]

Of course I didn't know about this

[Dan]

big punch event at the White House.

[Jordan]

Love it.

[Dan]

Because it's man stuff.

[Jordan]

In America, it's man stuff.

[Dan]

And so Rogan is like, hey, it seems. Look, it's a little ways down the road.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But it seems weird to be doing that while we're at war with Iran. It seems like we would be bringing a ton of people at the same place at the same time.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

Creating a great opportunity for someone to attack the event.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And so that's. Rogan's like, he's not saying, don't do it. He's just saying kind of like, I hope the war is over by then.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. I mean, you know, put the President in the middle and see how it looks from the space and maybe it's a bullseye.

[Dan]

So, Alex. It does not. He comes in.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he does not like the idea of Rogan being such a wuss.

[Tim Pool]

Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the great Alex Jones.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, boy. The great.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Alex Jones]

I was thinking about Joe Rogan's vagina right now.

[Tim Pool]

That's a weird way to introduce yourself, Alex.

[Alex Jones]

Well, Joe's like, I love Joe, but like, oh, my God, we better not have an event. The terrorists might get us. We just give up and go away. We can't ever have a meeting because the Iranians might stick their ding dong us. I think Joe's afraid of the Iranian ding dong.

[Tim Pool]

You're a. You're a Joe Rogan commentator, Professional. He's.

[Alex Jones]

I like Joe.

[Dan]

I'm surprised by Joe saying that coming out the gate.

[Jordan]

I would. Here's what I would say. Here's what I would say. The first thing I would say to Alex would be, you're drunk. How about that? We should probably not do this. We don't have to.

[Dan]

Would you like some beam? Dream this go to sleep.

[Jordan]

This isn't live. Guys, we can reach out. It is live. Oh, fuck you idiots. You fucking idiots.

[Alex Jones]

No, it is.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Yeah, but still you could say, hey, this is live.

[Jordan]

You can't be here.

[Dan]

Hey, I just got a text from your agent, right?

[Jordan]

Get out of here, buddy. You are drunk. So, hey, listen, you're drunk. And you know what? That'll be fun for me. But let me just be clear to my audience. This man's shit faced. You shouldn't listen to a shit faced man.

[Dan]

Oh, I think they recognize it. And I think that the other guys there, the other, the sidekicks are kind of laughing it out.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, like, oh, let's have a USC event. I mean, I'm against the war, let's be clear. But let's keep the buses and the trains and, you know, the airplanes on time. Let's not. Oh, the Iranians might get it, so.

[Tim Pool]

I was already swearing.

[Alex Jones]

I'm already swearing. Gotta follow every little AI rule. No, no, here's you. Let's all just hide in Joe Rogan's vagina and then we'll all be safe.

[Jordan]

Jesus. Good to have you, Alex.

[Alex Jones]

Giant Joe Rogan vagina. Luke is sitting, fly up into it. We're all safe.

[Luke]

Safe.

[Tim Pool]

And Joe, thanks for coming.

[Jordan]

Look, what an introduction.

[Alex Jones]

You heard dancing like, safe. Under her black wings, I'm saving Joe Rogan's big ass vagina.

[Jordan]

Well, there you go.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's killing.

[Jordan]

I. I mean, killing. Yep. That is. That is some. Oh, I don't. Okay. I don't think I'll say her name. All right. But I will say this. There was an open mic way back in the day at the Laugh Out Loud theater. And there was this person who had a character called Madge Jablonski. And it was painfully, painfully unfunny, which is why it was the funniest thing that I'd ever seen. And so it got to this situation where she would say something and the audience would go, no. But then they'd all turn around and look at me because I was cackling like a hyena. That's what that felt like. Whenever he was saying that, I was like, no. No rational human being should enjoy this. That's why I love it.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe.

[Dan]

Maybe we'll be safe in Joe Rogan's pussy.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

Perfect.

[Jordan]

That's brilliant. Do more of that. More. Someone pay him for this. Do you not hear the genius happening right now? Joe Rogan's vagina. What?

[Dan]

Unprompted.

[Jordan]

He doesn't have one. According to life.

[Dan]

And this is inspired by Rogan being like, I would be a little careful about these kinds of, like, a large event like the UFC at the. At the White House in the middle of a war.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yo.

[Dan]

Fucking vagina, man. It's awesome. So stuff.

[Jordan]

What's the movie about? The President getting kidnapped? Olympus has fallen. Something like that.

[Dan]

White House down.

[Jordan]

White House down.

[Dan]

White House is falling. So, Alex, I think he realizes his jokes aren't going over great.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And so he decides to pivot and ask them to fight.

[Tim Pool]

Luke's here. There's that.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Alex Jones]

I don't know how you can have that tonight.

[Jordan]

Good.

[Luke]

Good to be here with some old friends.

[Alex Jones]

I declare war on Joe Rogan. God has ordered me. I love jokes.

[Robbie]

Joe, he's gonna show up at your house.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. I guess Luke's here.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Hi, guys.

[Alex Jones]

Right now. You guys are tough. You guys, you're pretty tough. How about we just fight right now? You're real, man.

[Jordan]

All of you. Come on. Let's go.

[Alex Jones]

Every one of you. Let's go.

[Jordan]

Let's prove how badass you are, slug.

[Alex Jones]

Let's go. Did you take me? Let's see what happens.

[Jordan]

I can take you.

[Alex Jones]

No, you can. Why don't you? Every man in here. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Let's go. 8. Let's go.

[Tim Pool]

Robbie will fight you.

[Alex Jones]

I'm ready, Robbie. I'm ready. That's a big over there. I'm ready for war. I'm ready for war.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's good.

[Jordan]

It didn't take long to challenge people to a fight.

[Dan]

No. Everyone. Yeah, all of you. Your man.

[Jordan]

I'll fight you like, like most sober people do. Within less than five minutes. He challenged everyone there to a fight.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if Alex can really understand that in that moment, everyone is laughing at him like he's a clown dancing around for their entertainment.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And that's all good and well, but I want to focus on how Alex is joking about declaring war on Joe Rogan. And he says that it's what God told him to do. He's obviously joking and we're not supposed to take it seriously that God told him to fight Joe. But this introduces a real problem. There are other times that Alex says God told him to do things and we're supposed to hear that like, not as a joke. And because of that dynamic, Alex, this kind of joking is abusive to the audience. If you're a prophet and you publicly define yourself as someone who God speaks through, then you need to carry yourself with a very strict level of respect for God's word. You can't joke about God telling you to do something because God does tell you to do things. So what if someone listening doesn't get that you were joking about it? This time you've just committed blasphemy and possibly encouraged someone to do something evil and thinking that God commanded them to through you. Regardless of how anyone is treating him or how clearly drunk Alex is, his actions and jokes make it clear to anyone watching that God is a joke to him. Being told things by God is a joke to him. Prophecy is a joke to him. And the audience is the butt of the joke. That's not cool.

[Jordan]

It's a fun character, right? The drunk priest who, like, I believe, but do I really believe because I'm drunk by that, you know? But if you think about like, can you imagine Elijah, right, setting that pillar on fire and then get shit faced later on that night and it's like, haha, I might do it to you. I could just have people of God go, that guy. No, I'm just fucking with you. I'm not going to get God. Or where am I? You don't know. I can call fire from the sky. Yeah.

[Dan]

No, it's stupid.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Dan]

It's when you combine this with who he wants to be seen as. As a prophet is that. Come on, man, you can't do it now.

[Jordan]

You just. You can't. Sometimes there's room for being a little bit of a goofball, but I. I don't know, I just feel like God probably isn't there for that.

[Dan]

I think you can do it as long as everyone's laughing at you. Sure. But the world that we live in now, with the people who are in the power full positions that they are, I. It's not probably not wise. No. So Alex, I think he can tell that there's discomfort because his jokes aren't landing. And now he's threatening to fight everybody. Sure. And so he tries to explain to Tim, like, hey, man, I'm giving you viral content here.

[Alex Jones]

I'm ready to fucking live in Joe Rogan's vagina.

[Tim Pool]

Let's start with the news.

[Alex Jones]

I just gave the most viral clip of the year. It's a joke.

[Tim Pool]

You're trying to.

[Alex Jones]

Comedy. I love Joe. Yes. I suck his. Every night. We try to be family friendly.

[Tim Pool]

He's gonna get us. Get the show taken down.

[Alex Jones]

How about the engineer?

[Tim Pool]

Get the show taken down.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, Lindsay. And, like. And I watch, like, Rubio gets in and then. And then in comes Huckabee with his 12 foot. And they just boom, boom.

[Jordan]

The aristocrats that hung, huh?

[Alex Jones]

That's what I do.

[Dan]

Oh, God.

[Alex Jones]

18 foot dick and I. Those neocon cocks. And then y' all come see with that 80 footer.

[Tim Pool]

I imagine. I imagine Huckabee's watching, being like. I'm kind of offended, but that is a compliment.

[Dan]

I think that Alex is drunk.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I mean, that's all I think.

[Jordan]

Here's what I think.

[Dan]

He's having weird sort of violent, homoerotic fantasies.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Eddie's drunk.

[Jordan]

My. My feeling on this is Tim Pool has already made a huge mistake. Yeah, right.

[Dan]

I think he's realized his mistake.

[Jordan]

Right, exactly. And his response to that is incorrect. He's going to try and get a handle on this. He's trying to interrupt. He's trying to be on top of it, my man. You let him cook. You just let this dude cook and then see what happens.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

You got to be there to pick up the pieces. You're not going to be able to direct to the train.

[Dan]

No. There's no conducting this orchestra. Nope. It is. Whatever is going to happen is just going to happen.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And, yeah, I think that he's foolish to think he can host, even though he outnumbers Alex, like, four to One.

[Jordan]

Literally four to one. Perhaps eight men there or something to fight.

[Dan]

One of them is Luke Radowski. Rudkowski, however you're supposed to pronounce it.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Alex's old buddy from. We are changed.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

So you think, like, maybe this is gonna help? It's not.

[Alex Jones]

Nope.

[Dan]

Another guy is Ian, who Alex is friends with.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't remember why he's come up before in the past, but we've talked about him.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So you think you have, like, allies.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

But it doesn't matter.

[Jordan]

Too weak.

[Dan]

He's too drunk.

[Jordan]

Yep. Yep. When the sauce takes him, you are along for the ride.

[Dan]

But it's also interesting, like, if you play out his. His fantasy that he's discussing. All of these neocons have giant dicks.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And they're all fucking Trump.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Like, Trump doesn't have agency in this. He is the receptive person who this is being done to. Yeah. I think Alex needs to recontextualize his world to understand that Trump is someone with a dick who's doing the fucking.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, he's. He's someone who has its control over what he's doing.

[Jordan]

Right. I think. I think a lot of people. So with humor for. For, you know, for comedians and stuff, we. We've written jokes, we've done all this stuff, but for a lot of people experiencing it, I think they see humor as a. As like a. Oh, there's some things being hidden. Spoken about there, which is not always the case, but in this case, I think he's saying things that are. He's not supposed to be saying in his. In his mind.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

You know?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like, this is. Inhibitions that aren't there, that he's not thinking.

[Dan]

Well, I think part of it is the crassness of it.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Crass just equals humor.

[Jordan]

That's definitely true.

[Dan]

And. But whatever.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Not funny.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

So they play the clip of Rogan expressing his peace, and you just. You get the sense that Alex. I don't know if he's even here.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the story from the Daily Mail. Joe Rogan fears White House will be targeted by Iran during UFC event. We have a short clip for. It's only 40 seconds, but we'll play it to give you the context of what Joe was talking about.

[Dan]

Are you excited for the White House card? That looks really good. Yes, I'm excited. It sounds crazy. I know it's going to be very high security and high stress and weird

[Alex Jones]

to have a fight at the White

[Dan]

House in the middle of a fucking war. The war will be sorted out by June, but quite honestly, I'm not confident that that's gonna be the case.

[Jordan]

No.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

Yeah. So that would be weird.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Having this very high profile event where everybody's in one place at one time right there. I hadn't thought of that.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

So you're not excited to be there?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It seems like you're asking for. Holy shit. I thought of that at all.

[Alex Jones]

How could you not think of that?

[Dan]

Well, because I'm not gonna be there. You're the one that has to think of it.

[Alex Jones]

Because Joe Rogan is the God. His holy vagina realizes it's a threat.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. I don't. I am not really concerned about the White House itself. You know, of all the places we secure in this country, Iran's not going to do anything at the White House.

[Alex Jones]

I love Joe, but, I mean, that is a major pussy statement.

[Dan]

What. Where are you, man?

[Jordan]

You're. Tim, you're not going to win this. No, there's no. There's no win. You have fucked up.

[Dan]

Yeah. And sort of by acting like you're taking this seriously, you lose more. You dig yourself deeper in the quicksand.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

What do you. What do you think? What are you talking about? You have a drunk gorilla sitting next

[Dan]

to you who really wants to talk about vaginas.

[Jordan]

He just challenged everyone to a fight.

[Dan]

I'll fight all of you. And Lindsey Graham is a big dick.

[Jordan]

He's not going to be like, oh, I'm sorry, have I gone too far? I'll pull it back a little bit.

[Dan]

And I'm doing this for funny because funny humor is illegal.

[Jordan]

Elon told me there is something funny about watching these people just really do this to themselves.

[Dan]

Wait till the end of this. I think you're going to go on a ride. So Alex and Tim and the collection of brilliant minds around the table, they're talking about the attacking Iran.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

And Trump should have done it differently.

[Tim Pool]

You heard what Rubio said about why we got involved. Israel was going to make an attack on Iran. We knew that there would be a retaliation targeting the United States. So Ruby says we don't want to take a defensive posture. So we decided to go in with them.

[Alex Jones]

Which they had testimony in Congress two days ago confirming that. Yeah. So Israel made us do this.

[Tim Pool]

I don't.

[Alex Jones]

You know me, I'm not the guy with a hard on for Israel. But Israel should not be calling our shots.

[Tim Pool]

Agreed. And I think Trump should have been like, good Luck. Yeah.

[Ian]

Because if they responded and attacked us, then we could have been like, hey, we have no choice now.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Ian]

But this makes us look like an aggressor.

[Alex Jones]

Exactly. We should have taken the attack. Just look like the victims, then blow the shadow.

[Jordan]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

It's not. You know. And there's the challenge. Right. Because that's you. And you know this better than anybody. But the Project for a New American Century, when they. Who was it who said, April 2020,

[Alex Jones]

we had a Pearl harbor event launch in American Empire.

[Tim Pool]

And then there was the quote that I think it might have been Rumsfeld saying, sometimes we need a terror attack to remind people of what we're protecting them from.

[Alex Jones]

He said, we need 3,000 dead.

[Dan]

So it seems like these are just dumb guys having a dumb conversation. But if you know about what Alex is supposed to believe and understand what he thinks about the Project for a New American Century, this conversation is actually an invalidation of his whole career. They're saying it was dumb of the United States to attack Iran and get this war going just because they knew that Israel was going to attack Iran. What we should have done is let Israel attack, then wait for Iran to attack us, which we could then use as a pretext to enter the war and not look like people who are itching for a war. If you follow their train of thought, they're just saying exactly what the evil people who wrote the Project for a New American Century document were saying.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

They were saying that for the public relations purposes, it's always better if you can justify your war as being a response to someone else attacking you.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

A war in Iraq would require a Pearl harbor type event, much like World War II literally required a Pearl Harbor.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Alex. And these idiots are just saying that Trump should have waited for a Pearl harbor event before launching his war in Iran. Which is possibly a good PR argument, but it's fucking insane to hear conspiracy theorists saying that.

[Ian]

Yep.

[Dan]

Let's say that Trump did wait until Iran attacked us before getting involved in the war. Then what are we not supposed to think? Maybe the attack could be a false flag that was done to justify getting us into the war. Like Alex thinks that nine, eleven and Pearl harbor were both false flags, so why would this one be any different?

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

This is. This is so out of line with the framework that he's built.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he should know that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, it is. It is like they are cognizant of what they are saying in it. You know, like whenever they're doing this whole, like, the New American Century. They're also saying, that is a good idea, though.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know, like that's the unspoken subtext is these people are brilliant.

[Dan]

It works.

[Jordan]

Look at how brilliant they are. That's why we have to be twice as smart. But then they just get here because that's, that's just who they are. They are their own enemy. It's in their heads.

[Dan]

Right. In that clip. I don't really take too much fault with Ian, who is the one who said that the Trump should have waited until we were attacked and that would justify being involved.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

I don't. I don't know enough about him or have any feelings about him. So from a neutral standpoint, it is more justified to attack somebody after they attack you than the reverse. So I take his point as like, fine, sure. Alex responds to that by saying. Exactly. And that's the problem.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

From Alex's standpoint, this can't possibly be an acceptable. These fucking guys are idiots.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, it is. It is interesting because it feels like what they are doing is giving the globalists their best tyrant ideas. So then whenever they've got a tyrant, they're just saying exactly what they're regular. Right. That. That's. That's their idea.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

You know, that's all they've got. They don't have better ideas to compete with.

[Dan]

Nope. Well, Alex does have one idea.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's bad. Pretty bad.

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Jones]

Well, I'll be honest, if there was a magic red button to send the muzzles to Mars, I'd hit it.

[Jordan]

But that is a bad idea.

[Alex Jones]

They just put the head of Al Qaeda for Trump, got in. In charge of Syria, Israel created Hamas. So here's the deal. If we were actually fixing it, I'd be for it. Islam's cancer. But we don't fix it. We put worse Muslims in.

[Dan]

So, yeah, Alex wants genocide of Muslims.

[Jordan]

Okay. So if we don't fix it, we put worse Muslims in.

[Dan]

That's inevitable, apparently. So he would like to take care of the problem with a solution that's final.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, like a button that sends them all to Mars.

[Jordan]

Here's. Here's a question that I have, right? If all the Muslims were sent to Mars due to one button press, does that make you more or less likely to believe that Allah is the one true God?

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Jordan]

But also I think it makes me more likely to think Allah's got something going on.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe you're also never going to get rid of all the ideas.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that would be silly.

[Dan]

Maybe.

[Jordan]

What are you going to send all the books to?

[Dan]

Maybe there'll be some new Muslims that pop up down the road. Look, this sucks. It just sucks.

[Jordan]

It does suck.

[Dan]

And Alex is drunk and speaking freely, and so he can just be like, yeah, I want them all gone. I would love it if they were all gone.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but can you imagine any of these idiots coming up with something along the lines of, like, well, have we considered talking to them?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Jordan]

Have we considered.

[Dan]

Have we considered to Alex, they're less than human.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

You can't talk to them.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

They don't have God's divine spark in them or something. Anyway, Tim is like. He's sitting there, he's like, hey, everybody's talking about Israel. Yeah, Israel is a hot topic in the right wing media.

[Jordan]

Soup's hot.

[Dan]

Why is that?

[Jordan]

Good question. What's Nazi?

[Tim Pool]

Like, the Israel stuff.

[Alex Jones]

That's retarded. I've never been to Israel to do with Israel. Anytime I'm like, people like, it rained today. Israel did it. I'm like, well, no, it's.

[Tim Pool]

It's like, you know, the reason I ask you is because you've got more experience in the independent media space, particularly when it comes to government conspiracy psychological operations and all that. And, you know, you've been here longer than anybody else. And then all of a sudden, over the past six months, there's this dramatic shift online where now everyone's just talking about Israel doing everything all the time. Like all the conspiracy stuff that you've talked about when it comes to liberal economic order, you know, Project for New American Century, all that is just gone now. No one cares. None of that exists. It's just Israel did it.

[Alex Jones]

It's because Qatar doesn't lie about. They spend like 20 million a year on this. And so it doesn't mean that about Israel isn't true. They have changed the whole subject into that. Instead of China and the EU trying to censor Americans. So I like, hey, the EUs with huge fines. Or Brazil. Shut up, Israel. So it's kind of like a public woke up. Like a baby duck kind of imprints the first thing it sees. So the public woke up. And so the Muslim Brotherhood, which guitar funds said, oh, the first thing you see is Israel.

[Dan]

It's so funny to hear Tim desperately trying to take this idiot sitting in front of him seriously. Alex is a clown. He sounds like he's dying and he's clearly drunk. Why the fuck would anyone think he has a good answer to the question, what's up with this Israel stuff, what a ridiculous concept. But since Tim asked, I'll go ahead and answer it for him.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

It's Trump's fault, and to some extent Alex's and his own.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

The right wing media audience has always been comprised mostly of two sides. One is right wing politically and the other is just racists and anti Semites. These groups don't like each other and tend not to get along. So in 2016, it was hard to come up with a candidate who, who could build up the kind of coalition that could compete with a decent Democratic candidate. Bush had really ruined a lot of that cohesiveness.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Dan]

The media surrogates that promoted Trump made sure to promise both sides of the audience that Trump would be the exact guy they've been waiting for. To the right wing folks, he looked like a guy who would lower taxes and slash all public assistance programs. To the racists, he looked like the guy who would guarantee a white majority in the country. Trump looked like the compromise candidate for people who couldn't come to a compromise. And because he had a penchant for acting dictatorially, both of these sides didn't really see any reason that he couldn't fulfill their agendas. But as it turns out, Trump sucks. He can't get shit done and he's doing the same or worse things that other politicians have done in the past. He's covering up the Epstein stuff so transparently that he had to run his top ally out of Congress because she wouldn't shut up about it. He's changed two regimes in the past few months with the rippling consequences of those actions still to be seen. We have no fucking idea what's going to come from that.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

They promised that Trump was going to be different, that he was going to get things done, and they wasted the whole. It was a. It was the Deep State narrative in the first administration. Now there's no one left to blame and everyone is coming to realize that Trump sucks. Much like they did with the Deep State in the first term. The Trump leaning media folks are desperate to come up with a new story to tell, one that doesn't end up revealing. They sold their audience years of lies about an and the current one is that it's all Israel. Israel obviously deserves criticism, and I'm not saying that their government isn't involved in Trump's decisions. But the reason that the media landscape that Alex and Tim operate in is so full of Israel stuff is because it's become clear that Trump sucks. And blaming everything on Israel is the new Way for the dipshits in that media to continue profiting and avoid self reflection and realizing, oh, we were had. This is our fault. We fucked over our own audiences. Whoops.

[Jordan]

Whoops. A doodle.

[Dan]

Yeah. That's why Tim.

[Jordan]

Yeah, Tim. Yeah. You know, I wonder if people just like different flavors of Nazi. You know, like, I want to get rid of all the Muslims. Ahaha. I want to get rid of all the Jews. You guys are the same guy, right? Like you're the same guy. Right?

[Dan]

Right. Like, I think that this, this is something that is so, you know, the. We've talked about it before. The fundamental argument that like Nick and Alex have, Nick Fuentes and Alex have is whether or not Jewish people can be white.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And that is different schools of their.

[Jordan]

Not slightly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. That's different flavors.

[Dan]

Alex believes they can be white if they convert to Christianity. And yeah, Nick thinks not. That's basically.

[Jordan]

I hate, I hate pretend. Yeah, I. Here's, here's what I think. All right. I just think that all those people who lost their jobs a while back should just get those back, right?

[Dan]

Which ones?

[Jordan]

You know, like the university professors who are like, hey, maybe Israel shouldn't be doing this. And they were like, yeah, you can't have a job anymore. Just give them their job back After, After Israel did the thing. Just give them their job back.

[Dan]

Fine.

[Jordan]

You know, like we just, we just call that one even.

[Dan]

Well, let's take it on a case by case basis because I don't know who all of these professors were, but I'm sure some of them were wrongly terminate. I'm sure of that.

[Jordan]

I get that.

[Dan]

Anyway, the topic of a Jewish messiah comes up and man, when you, how

[Jordan]

are we going to do.

[Dan]

When you have a subject like this, who you want in the room is Tim motherfucking pool Ian, the guy who's weird Luke R. And a very drunk Alex.

[Jordan]

Why not just have fun with a drunk guy? Why are we pretending?

[Dan]

Because I think this is how they have fun.

[Jordan]

Oh my God.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story. We got this video that's going viral from Mario novel. He says Netanyahu, quote, we will make it to the return of the Messiah, but this will not happen next Thursday. And so this video has been been making the rounds, of course, since it's got 400000 views. And there was an. An article written a few days ago. Israel is gripped by messianic fervor for biblical war. Now there's another video that's massively going viral. Where the. Everyone's saying that he. He said return of the Messiah as if to imply he believes in Jesus Christ when you actually.

[Alex Jones]

Jewish Messiah.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, it says return. The Jews believe the Messiah has not come. So if Netanyahu says the return of the Messiah, that means he thinks the Messiah has already been here.

[Alex Jones]

Did he say that?

[Tim Pool]

So here's, here's. Here's what I've. What I've found in the transcript. When you, when you ask for a translation through Grok or whatever, it says the. The in Hebrew, the. In what he is speaking, it can be paraphrased either way, as in the era of the Messiah or the return of.

[Alex Jones]

Well, David was the Messiah, so he returns. The Jewish law, they do believe that

[Tim Pool]

David was a messiah.

[Alex Jones]

He was the art. It was the art.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

He was the precursor.

[Jordan]

I thought.

[Tim Pool]

I thought they haven't had their Messiah yet.

[Alex Jones]

No, but it's all. David was the Messiah. He returns.

[Tim Pool]

Well, either way.

[Dan]

Either way.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

So the research that Tim did on this story is to ask Grok, and he seems unsure what language they're even translating. Yeah, I have no confidence in these dudes. No, this really shouldn't be this unsure of a thing like an issue when they shouldn't have this level of uncertainty. They're talking about issues related to the Messiah and Alex, like, pretends to talk to God and Tim is treating this like a top story that he should have done a little bit of legwork on. This is especially embarrassing for Alex, who's confidently saying that the Jewish Messiah is David.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

That is not true. But many followers of Judaism believe that the coming Messiah will be from the Davidic line, so a descendant of David. I guess we do know that Alex believes that, like, you're magically the same as your ancestors.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

So we could give him this one on a crazy person technicality.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Like, yeah, all descendants of David are David.

[Jordan]

If you accept that his words have no meaning, but sometimes they might rhyme with each other, then yes. Yeah, I will say that he might be consistent here.

[Dan]

I was just listening to this and I'm like, guys, why are you even.

[Jordan]

What is happening?

[Dan]

Why are you even trying to approach this subject? You don't.

[Alex Jones]

You.

[Dan]

You're stupid. You didn't look into it and your guest is drunk.

[Jordan]

What are we. Yeah, what are you doing? Talk about football or anything.

[Dan]

You know, something about.

[Jordan]

Yeah, like this. This seems insane to me. I've. I've had multiple classes where the professor was drunk trying to teach the class, and I just disregarded it. I Wasn't like, well, maybe I'll get some new information now.

[Dan]

Conversely, I've had some teachers that were drunk and did better.

[Jordan]

That's possible.

[Dan]

It unlocked the next level.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Finally you're kind of opening up socially and we can of connecting some expertise

[Dan]

for it to like to be under that booze, you know. Anyway, Luke, last name redacted. He brings up Albert Pike.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And like apparently he knew all about these world wars that were going to be coming. And unfortunately Tim does a little Googling.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Wars are meant to be continued. And there's a lot of soldiers that are literally talking about this being a holy war for them so they could bring in the Third Temple.

[Jordan]

Fun.

[Luke]

Albert pike talked about a lot of this stuff. 1871, he wrote a letter about World War III and it's absolutely crazy.

[Tim Pool]

1871, he wrote about World War 3.

[Luke]

Yes. What

[Tim Pool]

anybody about it?

[Luke]

No, he talked about World War I, he talked about World War II and then he talked about World War III and he talked about the, the, the Jews fighting, fighting the Muslims in this world. That will bring in the demon, will bring in the kind of demonic order. So this is, this is. I mean I've been talking about this for, for about 12 years. I did a video with David Ike about this.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sorry, real quick, just don't forget what you're gonna say. Albert pike statue was torn down by anti racism protesters and the George Floyd riots, of course.

[Jordan]

Not a surprise there at all.

[Dan]

Oh well, yeah. They're trying to present it as some kind of like, oh, he was a visionary and the woke mob had to take down. Well, he was the head of the kkk.

[Jordan]

He's the head of the kkk.

[Dan]

I mean even drunk Alex knows this.

[Jordan]

God damn. Just unreal. This feels crazy.

[Dan]

It is.

[Jordan]

It genuinely feels like an assault on reality. Yeah.

[Dan]

And. And like I said, by the end of this, you'll feel even worse.

[Jordan]

I believe it.

[Dan]

There's so much roller coaster, windy road to go.

[Jordan]

I'm struggling to process that this is something they continued doing.

[Dan]

Yeah. It seems like something like I puzzled by why people would listen to our show.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't really fully understand that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But I really don't understand.

[Jordan]

I really don't understand this.

[Dan]

I think that we have a little bit more. I think it's a little more interesting.

[Jordan]

I would, I hope at the very least we've got chops.

[Dan]

Something.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Right.

[Dan]

So Alex, Alex is, you know, obviously Trump is bad. He's getting butt done by the neocons.

[Jordan]

In their 12 foot dicks, Joe Rogan's vagina.

[Dan]

He's covering up Epstein, going to war with Iran, all this stuff broken the constitution. But also we should be so grateful for him.

[Jordan]

That's nice.

[Alex Jones]

Trump isn't perfect and I about him all day, but we should about Democrats way more because we have to remember where we were, that what are they going to do? They get back in power.

[Tim Pool]

Luke made a really good point about what's going on. Do you want to, you want to make that point about the trap?

[Luke]

Yeah. No, I believe the little bit of free speech that we have is essentially the cheese on the, on the rat trap that all of us are now engaging in. And it's going to close behind us as of course, a lot of people are using it to its fullest potential. But I see it as a trap. That's what it feels like to me. That's what my instincts feel like. Because I saw how the Internet was all the way in 2006. I saw the trap. I talked about the trap all the way in 2008. I said, we're going to lose our free speech. We lost our.

[Alex Jones]

We are taking Trump for granted. One of those problems. What is going to happen? The Democrats get back in. We should be talking about. We are. Oh, we're free now. Oh, I'm so bad on YouTube. But the point is, imagine when they get back and take a piss.

[Dan]

I got a piss. I'll be back. Just out of nowhere.

[Jordan]

Way to go. He was our star guest.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Well, it turns out drunk people have to pee a lot.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So, yeah, apparently free speech is a trap. We should be grateful for Trump. And Alex has got a pee.

[Jordan]

I love that. I love the least specific series of sounds that I've heard somebody make before. I remember the Internet in 2006. I think free speech is a trap. Now here we are. I don't, I genuinely don't know what he's talking about.

[Dan]

I think that he's ironically talking about the same stuff we're hearing Alex talk about in 2006.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

When we go back. Like the idea that MySpace is a trap.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, like you go on there and you can become reliant on it to interact with people.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But you're. Do you. You do so at the pleasure of Rupert Murdoch, naturally. That's the trap that closes behind you.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

That like his censorship.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

You have to follow those rules or else you lose your MySpace page.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

I think that's what he's talking about.

[Jordan]

Okay, so then the trap is a little bit of free speech.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

So who's. Who's snapping the trap on you?

[Dan]

The people who own those social media networks.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And stuff. I think.

[Jordan]

I think. All right.

[Dan]

I'm doing some work, for sure.

[Jordan]

No, I mean, if. If he owes you money, what's your hourly rate? Because he owes you.

[Dan]

No, he doesn't owe me anything. He owes Alex in 2006. Something.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

They were already doing this, like, this kind of like, hey, don't trust social media. Well, you did.

[Jordan]

Yeah, you did.

[Dan]

That's why we didn't listen to your own advice. And now you're an idiot.

[Jordan]

That is kind of the problem.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So they. Alex goes to pee and they talk about the uk.

[Jordan]

I wish it had. I wish the mic was on.

[Alex Jones]

That'd be good.

[Jordan]

That would be so great. That would just be great. It would be great.

[Dan]

Unfortunately. No, I actually think fortunately, because whatever's going on in there can't sound.

[Jordan]

Can't sound good. No. Very funny.

[Dan]

So he comes back wasted.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They're talking about the UK stuff in the House of Lords and he. He's. Oh, bad.

[Ian]

I think this is a good thing. This is something that they started in 1999, the reform process of getting the hereditary peers out of office. They left 92 people in. And I think this is because of people like Tommy Robinson.

[Jordan]

They, like.

[Ian]

They're moving away from.

[Robbie]

Why do you.

[Ian]

Hereditary monarchy.

[Robbie]

Why do you think it's good?

[Ian]

Because I don't think your birth. You should be born into power like that. I don't think you should. You should have a title passed down to your son. It should be democratic.

[Robbie]

Why not?

[Ian]

Because you got. When you want the best from your society, not the. The King's kid, necessarily.

[Alex Jones]

The point is, Joe Rogan's vagina is this giant mothership that protects the earth. The. The shield against all the Satanism is Joe Rogan's vagina.

[Ian]

Hey, Alex, do you think that it's a good thing that UK is getting rid of hereditary Parliament House of Lords?

[Alex Jones]

The fact is, they're getting rid of it to turn it over to the globalists.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

And Islam and, you know, the Mayor of London, all that. It's totally disgusting.

[Tim Pool]

You see this?

[Dan]

Oh, boy. So you could. One of the things I think is interesting, it's illustrated in that clip, is like, the two people who are talking are idiots.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But at least they're having a conversation. They're discussing why it would or would not be better to have hereditary rule.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

One of them is taking the Side of it is better. One is taking the side of not right. And they're at least discussing the pros and cons of this in a way that if you're listening, hey, maybe it might spark some thoughts in your head. Maybe Alex comes in and he ruins it.

[Jordan]

Yes, he does.

[Dan]

Vaginas again.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Alex makes it so those conversations, even if they're dumb, aren't possible.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

He's the. He is the void where conversation gets sucked into.

[Jordan]

I mean, it's like, you know, you know, sometimes whenever you're doing a three man game, you know, not all of you know exactly when the time to speak is. So sometimes you'll leave a little space for the third man or, you know, whoever's got some time. But if they don't know what they're doing or if they're not ready for it, you might get some dead air. Right. That would be better than what Alex does. Yes.

[Dan]

Yes, it would. You know how they say that, like, what is it? White is the combination of all colors. Black, whatever.

[Jordan]

Whichever you choose.

[Dan]

Alex is the absence of thought.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like there is just not thought here.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And listening to him stops you from thinking.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And that's. That's a high compliment for me to be giving the other co hosts on Tim Pool's show.

[Jordan]

Right. I. Which sucks, because this does seem like a moment for Alex to go full Americana and be like, get the fuck out of my country, Tim Pool. You want hereditary bullshit? Fuck off. Go work for King George, you piece of shit.

[Dan]

Well, it's interesting because this is where Tim starts to express a desire that

[Jordan]

he's a fucking loyalist.

[Dan]

He's a monarchist.

[Jordan]

That he's a fucking monarchist.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Go join the red coat, shit bird.

[Tim Pool]

I think the argument against hereditary rule is propaganda and largely a myth. I think that all leaders have a possibility of going sour or being bad.

[Alex Jones]

The point is, though, they're giving up the hereditary rule to the Islamics and the globalists.

[Jordan]

That is the point.

[Alex Jones]

So if they give it back to the British people and we're all pro Britain, it'd be fine. It's not. It's about globalist capitulation.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. So getting rid of the House of Lords is not about having democracy, Ian. It's about saying we need to rip the British people from control of this government.

[Jordan]

That's what they're doing.

[Dan]

They're not getting rid of the House of Lords. What are you talking about? This is silly, this is nonsense. But also, it's so clear what you're talking about. Which is. You prefer monarchy that's white. To a multicultural society where there's power that's shared right. Among peers.

[Jordan]

You like. He. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and say this. I don't think these people understand necessarily that monarchs are not from necessarily the place that they're ruling.

[Dan]

Hmm. Well, but do they.

[Jordan]

But so, like, if you're saying I'm getting rid of the House of Lords. Yeah, that's bringing it back to the people.

[Dan]

But also, like, yeah, if you. If you want monarchy, then get ready for the possibility of becoming a serf. You know, like, it'd be absurd.

[Jordan]

No. To Then. Then shit. Then throw away the Constitution. There's no way to have a constitutional republic and a monarchy at the same time. That's not how it works. No.

[Dan]

And I think that that is what is underneath this conversation is that Tim, and I think, to his credit, Ian, maybe not fully on board with this, but Tim and Alex would prefer an ethnic dictatorship and monarchy to a constitutional republic that exists in a way where everyone has rights.

[Jordan]

Yes, absolutely.

[Dan]

That is what is underneath their conversation.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And. Yeah, they are out of line.

[Jordan]

That's. That's. I would say that that's fine. If you believe that and you've come to that conclusion, I guess that's fine. That's. That's for your view to come to. But you can't then also be an American. No, that's the. That's the rule of the country. Did you read the Declaration of Independence?

[Dan]

And. And, like, just say it. Just be honest about what it is you want.

[Jordan]

I want King George to come back to life and reconquer the United States of America so we can finally get rid of those Native Americans. And I'll be white forever.

[Dan]

Great.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's what you believe. I'm not arguing.

[Jordan]

There you go.

[Dan]

We'll just kick your ass.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's. That's how we. That's how we started the fight in the first place.

[Dan]

Yeah. So Tim seems to be in favor of monarchies.

[Tim Pool]

There's. There's a history of when the King would have a. Would find a wife and it wasn't inbreeding and had a son. The son was educated. Trained. Would be a military leader. And they said, you have to be someone who can lead the people and serve. It wasn't like, congratulations, you're rich from now on and can do whatever you want.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

It was largely viewed, especially the British people looked at her as someone who dedicated her life to service to them. And many of them, when you actually Ask them. They view it as I get to live my life free from the trials and tribulations of foreign war and conflict.

[Alex Jones]

Their republican it with Islamic rule.

[Ian]

Is that proven?

[Alex Jones]

Well, literally, the Muslims are taking over.

[Tim Pool]

If you take a look what's going on.

[Ian]

I just want to see the evidence of that because that's an interesting.

[Alex Jones]

So.

[Tim Pool]

So let me, let me.

[Alex Jones]

Charles is literally endorsed Islam.

[Jordan]

Okay. What is this?

[Dan]

Hey, man. Noblesse oblige. You know, like the, you know, the nobles, they have, they. They're our heroes, really. They're working for us at all times. Tim.

[Jordan]

I feel like. I feel like I'm in an. I'm in a community play of Guildenstern and fucking are dead. Like, I'm. These are the three dumbest people I've ever heard speak to each other.

[Dan]

No, but isn't it fascinating how Ian will at least be like, hold on a second.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that is crazy.

[Dan]

He gives up fast.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He does at least be like, yeah, I'm not sure.

[Jordan]

What are you thinking?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Has that been proven? Absolutely. What are you talking about? What are you doing? What is happening here?

[Dan]

I think Ian is controlled opposition in the sense that, like, he's there to.

[Jordan]

He's the combs and the hannity and combs.

[Dan]

Yeah. But also just. Just give up immediately. So Tim's point doesn't seem threatened.

[Jordan]

Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

It's embarrassing all around.

[Jordan]

See, here's the thing about monarchists, is that their kids are raised to be good kings.

[Dan]

It's an obligation that they have.

[Jordan]

It would be insane if you were to go back through any sort of monarchy. Literally any one of them. Pick any one of them. You will never see nepotism being a problem.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Jordan]

Guarantee it.

[Dan]

No. Usually when, you know, there aren't bastard children. I think he might be thinking of Game of Thrones.

[Jordan]

I think he's absolutely thinking of Game of Thrones.

[Dan]

But, yeah, when. When the kid is good and of good stock.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And born in the way that God intended him to be.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

That kid understands exactly. They exist to serve the people.

[Jordan]

Right. So you got to push them out of a tower and then they become the Three Eyed Raven and then they'll be a good ruler. I think that makes perfect sense. If that's your argument. I can't find holes in it.

[Dan]

Yeah. So the reason that this needs to happen. We need to go back to kings or something, is because they're getting rid of the House of Lords in order to make Islam in charge of the uk. And Ian has been like, what's the evidence of this.

[Jordan]

That's a good question.

[Dan]

And here's what Tim says.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so let me extrapolate. Let me show you.

[Alex Jones]

King Charles is literally endorsed Islam.

[Tim Pool]

And outside of.

[Dan]

Let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's not have a direct claim. Let's put it like this. If you are Muslim in the UK and you say horrifying things, you don't get punished for it. If you are a British and you

[Alex Jones]

post online, pray quietly from abortion clinic. Three years in prison.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. There was a woman who was standing outside an abortion clinic saying nothing and doing nothing. And the police came up and said, what are you doing? Said nothing. And they said, are you. Are you praying? And she goes, in my mind, you're under arrest. So when they allowed.

[Jordan]

Sounds true to me.

[Tim Pool]

Muslims to pray in the street.

[Alex Jones]

The Muslims now go around saying, no dogs at parks. Now they're passing laws. The uk no dogs.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So that's where you get the perception that is Islam is taking over the uk.

[Ian]

But I mean, if the King. So is the king sold out? Because the King can shut this down. The King can actually overrule this parliamentary.

[Alex Jones]

The king is in legendary Savelle. It's beyond Jeffrey Epstein.

[Dan]

Okay, man. So this show is basically like a chain email your grandma would get back in the day. Hearing these supposedly rational humans talking with this severely intoxicated elderly man is just depressing. Hearing this tone is like, you guys, come on, this is crazy. So this is about a woman named Isabel Vaugh Spruce, and she didn't do years in jail for praying outside an abortion clinic. She's a longtime abortion protester, and she uses a strategy of violating the legally required buffer zones outside of these clinics as what she would probably call civil disobedience.

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Dan]

She's been arrested for it a couple times. And earlier this year, she was awarded £13,000 for an unlawful arrest that she was the subject of in one of these instances. Okay, so rather than what Alex is saying where she's gonna go to jail forever.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

They actually. The State paid her £13,000.

[Jordan]

Right. That seems like a very diff. So in terms of if the Muslims are taking over, I don't think she would have gotten £13,000.

[Dan]

No. They conveniently leave that part out of this story.

[Jordan]

It seems very convenient that they left it out.

[Dan]

Civil disobedience is an important protest tactic. So if she believes that there shouldn't be buffer zones around abortion clinics, then her silent prayer within those zones is a legitimate way for her to express that she knows she's breaking an existing law and she knows what the consequences for that will be, which she's accepted in advance. The punishment is part of the protest and why she's doing this thing to begin with.

[Jordan]

That's the idea.

[Dan]

But when people like Alex and Tim start discussing her actions, they rob it of all meaning because they have to rob it of the intent. She went to a buffer zone that she knew she wasn't allowed to hang out in. But in order to use her story as evidence of the horrible attack on Christianity and proof that the Muslims have taken over the uk, she needs to be a completely blameless person who is just there minding her own business. And that's not fair to her. It's not fair to the political statement that she's making. They are disrespectful to literally everybody in this story.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, it does, it does concern me how few of those types of people like her recognize that she does not exist to the people that she believes supports her. You know, it is, it is a weird paradox that all of these people feel as though they have the support of people who clearly view them as non humans.

[Dan]

No, they're props.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They want to use you as a prop.

[Jordan]

Right. Like it, it would be, it is strange. Like, I don't think Jeff Dunham's puppets are also like, man, we're having a great time.

[Dan]

You know, they're not real jalapeno on a stick.

[Jordan]

That's what I'm saying. Right. Like jalapeno on a stick doesn't have its life stolen from it, it's just a puppet.

[Dan]

True.

[Jordan]

You know, so it doesn't have to be concerned with whether or not these people are evil.

[Dan]

No, but like, I think the, you know, the kind of double edged nature of this is that like, I don't think they even, these people like Alex and Tim misusing her activism. I don't think that she would do anything differently.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

It's just that she's not like in control of the way that it's being misused.

[Jordan]

It is, it is.

[Dan]

There's a disconnect.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I would, I would imagine that were the awareness there, it would feel different for her. She would change her behaviors maybe.

[Dan]

No, I don't think so. But maybe.

[Jordan]

I don't know about that.

[Dan]

Maybe she would argue with Tim and I don't know, maybe she wouldn't. Sucks. I have no, I don't know anything about her other than the tiny bit. Anyway, Tim does not believe in America. He thinks that you should have to have been born here and your parents and Grandparents be born here in order for you to run for office.

[Tim Pool]

So we were talking about hereditary rule going away in the uk. I would just put it like this. There's no guarantee that someone inheriting office based on just, just based on their. Who their parents are is going to protect your rights. But I would argue it is substantially more likely that a Virginian from Virginia who's sixth, seventh generation is going to say we have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. And someone who's not from the United States is gonna say, I don't care.

[Ian]

You think we should ban non US Citizens from running for Senate or Congress at all?

[Robbie]

Non citizens?

[Ian]

You mean not natural born?

[Tim Pool]

I believe you must.

[Alex Jones]

We know not to vote for foreigners.

[Tim Pool]

I believe that you should have to be born here to run profit.

[Dan]

Okay, well, you don't agree with a lot of the things that apparently we're supposed to have been founded on. Yeah. Cool, man.

[Jordan]

I would like my money back from school, from all school that I've ever been to. I would like my money back because what they told me is apparently wildly incorrect.

[Dan]

Well, no, I think Tim is wildly incorrect.

[Jordan]

Sure. But it feels like that's. It feels like these are the people who have all the power.

[Dan]

I think that some of these ideas are more ascendant right now than they should be. But I don't think that they're representative of, you know, the country that I grew up in and the country that we aspire to be sure and that we were taught, we were going towards sure. There's no reason why this has to be ascended. There's no reason why this has to take power.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

It just sucks that it, it kind of is now. So, yes, sixth generation Virginians, those are the people who should be allowed to run for office. I think you're being a little bit obvious here.

[Jordan]

You know, I just. I just know what I love most about these people and their ideology is for all the things that we disagree on, we both agree on a meritocracy

[Dan]

and a big tent.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. If you are good at something, then you should be rewarded and encouraged to do that.

[Dan]

None of that DEI stuff.

[Jordan]

No, no, no. Absolutely not. You shouldn't just give somebody of the color of their skin or because they're related to somebody or you know, something along those lines.

[Dan]

I remember people were screaming about dei.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I do.

[Dan]

So the conversation goes on. And then a horror strikes the proceedings. Oh, this is, this was, this is hard to hear. And I mean that literally and metaphorically. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Luke is right. I think they opened the door and said, everyone come on through. And they're going to try and drop the guillotine on everybody in the next year or so. The Democrats win the midterms and that censorship is going to come back tenfold.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah. All these concern was like, oh, we're weave one, everything's great. No, we haven't.

[Robbie]

No.

[Alex Jones]

I'm like, three, two years is next tomorrow.

[Ian]

Do you see any other future than the AI overlord machine state?

[Alex Jones]

If humans learn to recognize authentic human stuff and promote it, we win. And you can. You can see what's real, what's not. We have to. Rope's real.

[Tim Pool]

Well, how old are you now, Alex?

[Alex Jones]

52.

[Jordan]

92.

[Dan]

You good?

[Alex Jones]

You all right? I'm tired. Yeah. No, we're winning, so.

[Dan]

Feels like it.

[Jordan]

What the fuck was that?

[Dan]

Yeah. So Alex having a huge coughing fit and then saying I'm tired is just amazing timing. He doesn't mean for that to be funny, but it's gold. I think he's dying and that would be sad. But I'm more interested in the idea that Tim starts that clip off with. That has to do with Luke's theorizing that the free speech stuff that the MAGA folks have been pushing is a trap. They complain that they're being censored everywhere on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter, so they end up going to rumble and Elon buys Twitter to turn it into a safe space for racists. But that's the trap. Once they get there, they shut the back door and you're screwed.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Dan]

The reason that's funny is because as we talked about earlier, it's exactly what Alex was saying about MySpace in 2006. It's funny because they're kind of right, but not because any like censorship, conspiracy theory. Rather, it's because how the business. It's the business model. Social media relies on large user bases in order to make profit off advertising and selling your data. So if there's a bunch of people on one platform, you need to give them a reason to migrate to your platform. You can't say what you want. Over there is a really compelling argument for people who want to say offensive shit. So it's very useful to get more users onto your site, away from another site. But once your platform grows enough, you start to realize the importance of marketing and advertising in terms of your profits. And you can. You can only get a certain level of advertiser on board if your site is full of slurs and racist cartoons. There is that if you want actual, stable, reliable companies to Advertise with you. You. You will need to have some form of moderation or censorship, which is the springing of the trap that Luke is talking about. These guys are basically just toothless rebels where they want all the benefits of social media, but they can't stand the awareness that by being in their space, they're cogs.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

They kind of understand that if they weren't able to post clickbait shit to hijack people's attention on social media, they'd have no careers. So they have to be cogs. But they're not like all the other dumb cogs.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

All you other dumb cogs who are part of the machine using social media and, like, being the people whose attention we hijack. You people are trapped.

[Jordan]

Yep. I'm the one who's going into this with my eyes open. I'm making a deal with the devil.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Say what you want about that, but you know what that does? It makes me equal with the devil.

[Dan]

You know it does.

[Jordan]

These idiots, they're just being taken advantage of by the devil. They're being conned by the devil. That's pathetic.

[Dan]

It's fun.

[Jordan]

Pathetic.

[Dan]

It's fun how the devil lets you think that. Huh?

[Jordan]

It is weird how the devil only chooses you to do that, but everybody else, he does the thing. It's almost like, I bet they think something similar.

[Dan]

So that coughing fit was gross.

[Jordan]

That probably sounded like death.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah, it sounded like a person. Not just coughing, but also not being able to breathe.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

And you can tell that a fear enters the room.

[Jordan]

It entered me.

[Dan]

These guys are pretty scared.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so the reason I ask you is because I think the younger generation is going to be put in the matrix. They're going to be given the neural link, they're going to be plugged in, and they're going to choose to play video games all day where they can be wizards fighting dragons.

[Robbie]

Me and Dan were actually talking about this morning. I did Holloway's podcast and. Okay, okay.

[Alex Jones]

I'm going to leave it a.

[Robbie]

And it's. It's super important, like, that people not decide to not, like, be active in the real world.

[Dan]

Yeah. Allergy attack.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Come on, man. There's something. It's really messed up. And I think that, you know, Alex does say. He mumbles there like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna leave in a minute.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And there's a feeling that everyone has that's like, what the fuck is going on?

[Jordan]

What the fuck is going on?

[Dan]

Is he going to die in front of us?

[Jordan]

It'd be interesting.

[Dan]

Is he going to leave? He's supposed to be here for the whole show. It's supposed to be three hours long. We're like an hour in now.

[Jordan]

That's a viral moment. If Alex dies on your show live, that's gonna go viral.

[Dan]

Holy shit. It's gross, too. Yeah, audibly gross.

[Jordan]

Oh, it's disgusting.

[Dan]

It's tough to look at.

[Jordan]

I'm shocked that you had to look at it. I, like, I looked away gross.

[Dan]

But, you know, there's some inspirational messages that this other host is trying to make about kids can't choose to not be in the real world. We have to be in the real world, okay? Or else we'll not be in the real world. And then Alex interrupts him.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Robbie]

Like, you have to make the decision to go out and do things that are hard. You have to make the decision to go out and do things that challenge you, because that's how you grow and that's how you make your life better. If you just. If you just say, oh, you know, I'm going to sit around and play video games and not actually be active in. In life, you're going to end up with a whole generation of just people that are, like, in the pod. And that's that. It's going to be the end question right about.

[Alex Jones]

I'm sorry, humanity's powerful. We're gonna win. But, yeah, the censorship's been incredible. It's been totally insane. And we're gonna win the end. So it doesn't matter.

[Dan]

I hope so.

[Tim Pool]

I've grown quite fond of living.

[Dan]

Good for you. I think that guy, like, for as much as this show, is dumb and banal and boring, I think that listening to that guy talk about, you need to be in the real world and have some challenges and rise to the occasion, or else you're living in a pod in a false reality. I listened to that. That guy had something that was at least a thought. And then Alex comes in with a

[Alex Jones]

ha, ba ba ba ba ba ba.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. It feels. It feels like this is abuse. I don't know. I know someone is being abused. I know multiple people are being abused, but I am not sure who or what is at faul. I just know that it hurts me personally.

[Dan]

I think that Tim Pool entered this interview on good faith, that he just thought he was going to have Alex Jones on.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Then Alex showed up wasted, and he just decided to roll with it. And at this point, it's unethical to be interviewing him in this.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

We talked about this on the episode where Alex was like, Blackout Ramble calling Paul Joseph Watson, like, the Goblin King and all that stuff.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And at that point in our tenure of doing this show, I think I was very sensitive to Alex's like, hey, you got to protect him from being on air like this.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

This isn't okay. This is another human being now. I don't care.

[Jordan]

No, you got to protect yourself from Alex being on air like, this is your show.

[Dan]

I supremely don't care that Alex is incapacitated on that guy.

[Jordan]

But if I'm running the show, I'm going, well, fuck that guy. I don't want him on my show.

[Dan]

It kind of makes you look bad that this is a guest that would be appealing to you.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It makes you look bad that you've ever taken him seriously in the past.

[Alex Jones]

Yes.

[Dan]

So it peels back layers of the onion that you really don't want. It's a bad booking.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And. And you think that maybe it could go all right at the beginning when it's just. I mean, it's not the first time he showed up somewhere drunk.

[Jordan]

You're not wrong.

[Dan]

It's just bad.

[Jordan]

This one's bad.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, once you hear that coughing fit, though, there's no. There's no hard liquor. That's going to make your esophagus more comfortable. That's not how esophaguses work.

[Dan]

Esophagi.

[Jordan]

Esophagi.

[Dan]

I'm not a soft guy. So Alex, I mean, there's something physical going on.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But it's also kind of mental. Like, Ian, I think, is very dumb. And Alex can't really even keep up with his train of thought.

[Ian]

It makes me think that, like, okay, there's people that want to evolve humans into a machine to upload their consciousness in a machine, become the Uberman in a machine.

[Jordan]

They.

[Ian]

That at some point, that's microcosm. That of the spirits that have put their consciousness into humans to evolve to the next phase of spirit, copy what's already there. And does that mean that there were evil spirits that thought, no, we'll be human. It's even better. And that's why there's this demonic fluidity through humanity.

[Tim Pool]

Is that.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, it's going against the plan.

[Ian]

So is human in aberration. That would.

[Alex Jones]

It's copying God's plan. We're all avatars. We're already possessed. Exactly. It's jacking into that.

[Ian]

And the AI's just another evolution of that.

[Alex Jones]

AI is our collective unconscious through computers. So we see it, it's like the looking in the water, you know, it's, it's the narcissism.

[Ian]

But then wouldn't humans be the narcissism of the spirit?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, that's the paradox.

[Ian]

Because I think humans are good. But then I see us, we have to kill to survive. Like how horrible.

[Tim Pool]

See, the mistake we're making is that

[Ian]

you escape animals, you have to kill them to survive.

[Tim Pool]

And, and you, you have a mythic view of reality that killing is inherently bad. Murder is bad because it's a reckless killing for no reason. But killing an animal to eat it is not bad. In fact, it is good.

[Dan]

So Tim at least is engaging with the thought that Ian is saying. Yeah, so the two of them have a stupid standing around with a bong in a basement kind of conversation. And great, good for them. It's awesome. But Alex was like not even there. No, like he wasn't following what Ian was saying. His is answers were like, okay, yep. Though then what? He didn't seem to understand that follow up questions were possible. That was scary.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I'm trying to diagram this in my head. I'm trying to parse it right, because we got drunk. Alex, again, man, you can't be mad. He, he's our.

[Alex Jones]

He is.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know, like, hey, man's there, you're shitty.

[Dan]

We're all possessed.

[Jordan]

Right? So, so I don't, I don't think that thought. Okay. The thought process and the thought train and the things that he was thinking about are dumb. But whatever. We all think dumb things, right? That he's asking Alex genuinely like, well, what do you think about that? Instead of going, well, you're shit faced, I don't care. You know, that is 10 times dumber. But then to have Tim Pool come in like, like the exact same level of dumb, but he's got glasses on. So he's like, no, I'm, I'm secretly

[Dan]

smart and I'm sober.

[Jordan]

Yeah, exactly. Right. Like that's, that's where we're at that with like these three people are trying to behave as though they're each on the podium of stupid, you know, and like Alex is the dumb one. He's the, he's number one, Ian's number two, and then Tim Pool is at a distant third. But they're all flat. It's all the same.

[Dan]

I disagree. Maybe, maybe, maybe you zoom out far enough, it's all flat. Sure. But they're different.

[Jordan]

I agree, they're different.

[Dan]

Alex is chaotic, stupid.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

Ian is inquisitive.

[Jordan]

Maybe you're not such a bad guy.

[Dan]

Stupid. And Tim Pool is. I don't believe anything.

[Jordan]

Paper. He is the dumbest.

[Dan]

They are different in ways.

[Jordan]

Sure, I understand. I'm just saying that their levels of stupidity are competing with each other. And they have tied.

[Dan]

Yes, yes. Quad. Qualitatively and quantitatively. They might be different.

[Jordan]

They might. Yes.

[Dan]

Qualitatively.

[Jordan]

Even split.

[Dan]

Who knows?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Anyway, Alex has got to go.

[Tim Pool]

And I totally understand this. When I'm talking to Chatgpt, I'm questioning whether there's any consciousness. And. And to be honest, it's the exact same as when I'm talking to Robbie.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Where's that AI.

[Tim Pool]

Where's that A's in the back?

[Ian]

It may be developing sentience.

[Alex Jones]

How long are you in town?

[Tim Pool]

A couple weeks.

[Alex Jones]

I want to come back.

[Tim Pool]

You can come back whenever you want.

[Alex Jones]

A few days.

[Jordan]

Won't come back.

[Alex Jones]

I'm up to 4am I'm exhausted.

[Jordan]

Bye. Bye. Yes.

[Tim Pool]

You sound exhausted.

[Alex Jones]

Well, I love you guys. All I know is this is a real debate and I really appreciate you guys. And I just know that Joe Rogan's giant.

[Jordan]

Hey, back full circle.

[Alex Jones]

Joe Rogan's vagina. Huh? Is like the goddess that will float down. Do you think.

[Tim Pool]

Do you think Media Matters will write this headline?

[Alex Jones]

Of course.

[Tim Pool]

No. This one they're going to avoid.

[Alex Jones]

No, I think. I think we should. Whoa.

[Jordan]

I think we should.

[Dan]

Buddy.

[Jordan]

Buddy.

[Dan]

So he leaves.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Good call.

[Dan]

Gracefully.

[Jordan]

Don't tell me he comes back.

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

But like, I. It pains me to listen to Tim pool after Alex has left, but you

[Jordan]

got to see if he has shit to say. Right?

[Dan]

And does he ever.

[Jordan]

Oh, does he?

[Dan]

A little bit after Alex leaves.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Here's where we're at.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Luke]

Whoever wields it and controls it.

[Tim Pool]

I want to say this because with all due respect to Alex, I think he was having a very serious. This medical issue.

[Robbie]

I don't know. He definitely.

[Jordan]

He had some bad allergies.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, allergy attack.

[Dan]

That was a little concerned.

[Robbie]

Coughing.

[Tim Pool]

That. That was. That was more than an allergy attack. And. Yeah, that's why I went and got

[Dan]

water and tried, you know, I mean,

[Tim Pool]

the chat was blowing up, saying like a bunch of stuff. But I want to be respectful and not say too much. And I had my phone ready with. Again, with all due respect to Alex, like, he was. That was not an algae attack or. Or, you know, so I hope. I hope he's leaving to go get checked out or something. I think that may be the case.

[Robbie]

I thought that he was. When he came in, I was. I was a little surprised at how big he was. I thought that he had kind of lost a lot of weight, and I was expecting, like, the spell.

[Tim Pool]

He actually, he still is.

[Jordan]

Is he still small?

[Tim Pool]

He's. He's big, but he's small.

[Luke]

He was bigger before.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's a lot bigger before.

[Luke]

He's still better shape than he was before. But he's up.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, he's drinking a Topo Chico. And you what now?

[Jordan]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

He's got a drinking problem.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I'm. I'm concerned about that medical episode and then him abruptly leaving because he knows, you know, we don't end the show right away like that.

[Robbie]

Yeah, I think. I think that he just. Honestly, I think that it was. He was having a hard time keeping

[Tim Pool]

it together and he kind of realized he was inebriated. That coughing fit he had.

[Robbie]

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, the coughing was. Was.

[Dan]

Was.

[Tim Pool]

That was more than just a coughing fit.

[Robbie]

Yeah, the. The coughing was a different thing, but I think that he kind of realized that he was having a hard time, like, staying on. On top of.

[Tim Pool]

Actually, he was doing relatively fine until he had the coughing fit.

[Dan]

I think he was doing relatively fine because he's never on topic, like, so, like. Yeah, but he was very clearly drunk.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And this is a really interesting glimpse because they're on a live stream. Yeah, they like. And Tim is even gonna talk about this in the next clip.

[Jordan]

They.

[Dan]

They wouldn't talk about this, but they're on a live stream and there's people, like in the comments.

[Jordan]

You're gaslighting what happened. Yeah, you're gaslighting if you don't acknowledge the very obvious thing that everybody there saw. And they're not going to just go away and be like, oh, well, it's. It's polite of you not to talk about it.

[Dan]

So. Because they're on this stream and they have to address it.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They're bringing up like, he clearly smelled like alcohol.

[Jordan]

He has a drinking problem.

[Dan]

Wasted. He was in terrible shape. I was ready. I had my phone ready to call an ambulance because this guy was fucking losing it in front of me. He looked like he couldn't breathe.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I think the best line read so far of the. The entire show has been the now after Topo. He was drinking a Topo Jiko. Now that's. That's good timing.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's the way you pull that one out.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

So this is the last clip that we have and it really is like I think they're disappointed and I would be too.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I were them.

[Tim Pool]

Actually he was doing relatively fine until he had the coughing fit.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And was struggling to breathe. Yeah.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Which was like, you know, medical episode.

[Robbie]

Hopefully he. I think hopefully he's going get some. Take him get.

[Tim Pool]

Normally I wouldn't talk about stuff like this but like we're literally live when it happened and the chat is lighting up with people asking what. What was going on and so I'm not going to pretend nothing happened. Just ignore it. You know, if we were, if we were doing pre production and that happened, I've just. That's his business. I wouldn't say anything. But he's live on the show and then. And then leaves like weight drop.

[Ian]

Super drunk, super dehydrated. He said allergies. But fatigue. If he's really up since 4am, God knows I hope the best for him though. I was terrified while that was happening. I was just watching him and trying to stay calm.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'm kind of bummed because, you know, a lot of people have said he had a drinking problem for a long time and then he. These videos are coming out of him getting healthy and fit. He's looking really good and I wonder if the end of the show like he's just suffering anxiety non stop and so he started drinking again.

[Dan]

Could be, could be. You don't need to make excuses for him. He just started drinking again.

[Jordan]

I don't understand what is happening here. These people are so weird. Yeah.

[Dan]

He just had some time that he took off and now it's a fucking problem again. But like I think that this is really illustrative because Tim Pool is big.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like Tim Pool has a big audience. While Alex going on Tim Pool show is not a minor thing.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, like going on Patrick Bet David going on Duncan Trussell might be minor like comparatively to going on Tim Poole's show.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he can't keep it together to be there for more than like an hour and 15 minutes or something.

[Alex Jones]

He.

[Dan]

That's the window that he's capable of mustering something.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And that's. That's bad.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because he stands to gain so much from being there, putting in a good performance. Like there's a lot of audience that you potentially can poach from from Tim Pool.

[Jordan]

And if you've got your main thing threatened and probably going to go away, if not now, fucking someday. Right. Then the idea of migrating people is only possible if you are popular every other places.

[Dan]

Yeah. You know, and if you're trying to get people to come over to your thing and you're fucking almost dying on air and having coughing fits that you claim are because you're tired. And then the hosts are like, he was fucking wasted. He smelled like booze.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

These, these people aren't going to come to the Alex Jones network dot com. They're not. They're gonna be like, oh, look at that old drunk.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I, why would I go? I mean, other than to see an old drunk.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But if Alex was offering that kind of content, then that would be different.

[Jordan]

That would be different.

[Dan]

Drunk by a fire telling us about,

[Jordan]

I can do old drunk. I can't do old drunk who believes he speaking to God. And that's why fucking Nazis should be in power.

[Dan]

And that's what he needs. He needs people chasing that in order for like the, the transition to his new business to work. I think that this was a monumental failure and a really grim look at like how incapable he is of, of pulling it together anymore.

[Jordan]

Yeah. But funny, I mean the. What, the stakes couldn't be higher and this is the performance he delivers.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

You know, you, you get exactly what you get.

[Alex Jones]

Yes.

[Dan]

Congratulations to Tim, to Ian, to whoever the other guy was and to man,

[Jordan]

those three really feel bad.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Anyway, we'll be back with another episode.

[Jordan]

Indeed. We will.

[Dan]

Know what Alex is up to.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

See if he cleaned up, got sober again. But until then, we have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do. It's knowledge Fight dot com. Also we've got a show link in the descript. There's a link in the description goes live Saturday 9am Sweet.

[Dan]

Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the sex robot.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Jordan]

Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.