#1132: March 28, 2026

Summary

Knowledge Fight: Episode #1132 – March 28, 2026

Release Date: April 6, 2026
Hosts: Dan & Jordan

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Overview

This episode of Knowledge Fight dives into the March 28, 2026 broadcast of The Alex Jones Show, examining Alex's increasingly bizarre worldview as he tries (and mostly fails) to reckon with the consequences of Trump's presidency, the threat of war with Iran, and a pivot toward UFO esoterica. Alongside typical political fare, the episode detours into a surreal interview between Alex and "Dark Journalist," discussing orbs, secret space programs, and prophecies involving alien intervention at Easter. Dan and Jordan provide their sharp, humorous analysis, highlighting Alex's rhetorical maneuvers, religious backpedaling, and growing irrelevance even within his own media empire.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter: Candy, Holidays, and TV Filler

• [01:07–06:04] Dan and Jordan begin with light banter about Easter, ranking "candy holidays" and discussing shows like Flavortown Food Fight and Price Is Right. This sets a casual, irreverent tone that will contrast sharply with the surreal direction later in the episode.

2. Introduction to the March 28 Alex Jones Show

• [06:04–09:32] Dan sets up the context: it's a Saturday, Alex's day off, but he chooses to do a show on the new Alex Jones Network. Technical issues abound, but more critically, the content marks a shift—Alex seems ready to abandon Trump.
• Quote:
  Dan [09:32]: "So if Alex truly believes what he’s saying, that Trump has been compromised, then it feels like he should be treating it a little bit as more of an emergency than this..."

3. Trump Is Over… Sort Of?

• [09:32–15:00] Alex claims Trump is compromised and manipulated into war with Iran, weaving in familiar conspiracy names (Larry Fink, Davos, Fauci). Dan and Jordan skewer Alex's rhetorical attempts to distance himself from Trump without admitting fault.
• Analysis:
  • Alex can't fully commit to a break; he reframes Trump's failures as the product of trickery/deception to protect his own legacy.
• Quote:
  Dan [13:28]: "It's necessary for the continuation of the human species that Trump get elected... Now we're here in 2026 and Alex is saying… he knew the globalist plan... but he still needs to protect his own image."

4. Constitutional Consistency? Only Sometimes

• [16:17–19:00] Alex gives a pass to regime change in Venezuela, justifying it with cherry-picked constitutional references (Barbary Wars, Monroe Doctrine). But with Iran, he balks—unless it might ‘work out’.
• Jordan [18:51]: “Remember how we have hemispheres written into the Constitution? You can do things in different hemispheres.”

5. Unaccountable Media & The Good Man Clause

• [20:30–22:41] Dan and Jordan note Alex's double standards—calling for Obama’s impeachment for lesser “Constitutional violations” but rationalizing Trump’s actions. They argue real accountability would start with an admission of being conned, which Alex can’t bring himself to do.

6. Pivot to UFOs and the Orbs Prophecy

• [26:19–41:06] Reacting to escalating news about Trump and Iran, Alex abruptly pivots to UFOs, featuring "Dark Journalist" and riffing on "flaming orbs" seen in the skies.
• Dan [28:16]: “This is maybe as close as we’ve gotten to a Wacky Wednesday episode in a while…”
• Jordan [41:00]: "Orbs will come from the ocean to save us from war."
• Notable: Alex leans into esoteric prophecy about “thousands of orbs” rising from the ocean as a sign of intervention (a pseudo-prophecy, as Dan unpacks).

Key Segments:

• [29:26] Alex: “I was told by an Elon Musk representative…”
  …That Musk is building a dark side of the moon base for a Mars launch. Dan and Jordan note the contradictions with Alex’s supposed anti-elite persona.

• [32:28–36:06]
  Alex interprets “fireballs” and “orbs” as a possible result of space warfare, satellites being shot down, and not meteorites.

• [36:06–41:06]
  Introduction and context for the “orbs prophecy”—crediting UFO contactee Chris Bledsoe and riffing on the apocalyptic/cosmic significance of these sightings, despite the absence of actual orbs.

7. Elaborate Esoteric Lore and Pseudoscience

• [42:06–54:35] Dark Journalist amps up tales of cosmic security clearances, missing scientists, and secret space programs. Alex references Tesla earthquake machines and pseudo-historical links to Nazi scientists.
• Dan [51:18]: “The story about [Tesla] causing an earthquake is one of these lore ones, and these dudes just accept that as gospel fact.”

8. Alex’s Religious Relativism & Blasphemy

• [80:10–88:59] In his attempt to ingratiate himself with Dark Journalist, Alex noticeably hedges on his usual claims of direct communication with God—crediting “the Watchers” or collective psychic consciousness instead. Dan brands this as a craven, heretical cover given Alex’s audience.
• Quote:
  Dan [82:25]: “If Alex’s faith was sincere, he would know that what he’s doing is the same as what Peter did... Alex wants this interview to end smoothly, so he’s denying Jesus by allowing the possibility that God doesn’t talk to him... maybe it’s the Watchers.”
• Jordan [89:19]: “It is wild to hear him denied in this way. In direct, I guess, defiance to the things that he told you to do in that book that you care so much about.”

9. Sponsored Content & Alex as a Surrogate

• [92:43–95:12] Dan and Jordan point out the obvious "brokered content" aspect as Alex rushes through required “exhibits” for Dark Journalist, before handing the mic to Jason Burmas. Alex increasingly resembles a prop, rented out for credibility while others fill the show with their pet topics.

10. The Declining Centrality of Alex Jones

• [95:46–100:42] Dan and Jordan speculate that Alex’s diminishing role—letting producers and guest hosts take over interviews, running out the clock—suggests his diminishing authority and function within his own operation.
• Dan [97:01]: "He's renting him out like a giant Cameo… like a play place hour."
• Dan [99:24]: "And I think that speaks volumes. Alex wouldn’t let someone else who works for him do the interview if he could. Unless he’s somewhat checked out."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan [14:53]: "If you understand what he’s doing, it’s a rhetorical cover your ass tactic."
• Jordan [18:51]: "Remember how we have hemispheres written into the Constitution? You can do things in different hemispheres."
• Alex Jones [33:47]: “Hundreds of times a day, folks. Like giant burning things and then they explode."
• Dan [57:35]: “Also, the Elon in the book isn’t a human who colonizes Mars. It’s a title held by a Martian who human astronauts meet and befriend.”
• Alex Jones [80:10]: “When the time is right, like I said, Trump will announce each one at 1:27 tonight. Like I said, because the thing just told me...”
• Dan [82:25]: "Alex’s religious beliefs are a fucking joke and he uses them as a weapon. If you can’t see that after that, I don’t know what else you need."
• Jordan [89:19]: “It is wild to hear him denied in this way. In direct, I guess, defiance to the things that he told you to do in that book that you care so much about.”
• Dan [97:01]: “He’s renting him out like a giant Cameo. That’s what this is.”

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Important Timestamps and Segments

• [09:32] – Alex first explicitly details shift in attitude: “Trump has been compromised.”
• [16:17] – Justification of Venezuela regime change by misusing constitutional arguments.
• [28:16] – "Wacky Wednesday" begins: Jump to UFOs/flaming orbs.
• [36:06–41:06] – Explaining the “orbs prophecy” and the Easter/apocalypse connection.
• [54:17–58:08] – Von Braun, Musk, and Nazi prophecies: Conspiratorial history on display.
• [80:10] – Alex’s Watchers/heresy and denial of Christ.
• [92:43–95:12] – The overtly brokered interview wind-down and "let's hit your exhibits" moment.
• [95:46–100:42] – Final discussion: Alex's declining role and importance.

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Tone & Style

Dan and Jordan keep their typical blend of articulate, sardonic humor and incisive critical analysis throughout, often punctuating Alex’s most outlandish moments with banter and pop culture references (“It's like a play place hour,” “He wouldn't let someone else do the interview unless he’s checked out,” etc.). While the outer trappings are comedic, the core critiques—about media responsibility, conspiratorial thinking, and pseudo-religious posturing—are methodical and sharp.

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Summary Verdict

This episode shows Alex Jones at a crossroads: unwilling or unable to reckon seriously with Trump’s legacy, he searches for a new narrative anchor in the wilds of UFO esoterica. The show becomes more transparently transactional and farcical as Alex descends into being a mere figurehead for other grifters’ content. Dan and Jordan brilliantly expose and ridicule both the shifting meta-narrative and the tactics of self-preservation that characterize this declining period of Jones’ media career.

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For listeners: This episode is essential for understanding the unraveling of the Jones/Trump symbiosis and the new convergence of right-wing grift and UFO pseudoscience—and it's very, very funny, too.

Transcript

[Jordan]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert. Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge Fight.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight.

[Jordan]

Need.

[Alex Jones]

Need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy. Andy.

[Jordan]

Stop it.

[Alex Jones]

Andy and Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.

[Jordan]

Hello, Alex.

[Dark Journalist]

I'm a trim caller.

[Dan]

I'm a huge fan.

[Alex Jones]

I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge Fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

We're a couple dudes. I like to sit worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are. Dan, Jordan. Dan, Jordan. Quick question for you.

[Dan]

What's up?

[Jordan]

What you brights about today, buddy?

[Dan]

He is risen.

[Jordan]

He has risen today.

[Dan]

Yes. It's Easter. We are recording this on Easter.

[Jordan]

That's right. That's what day this is. Yes, it is. I tried to pick up a package and I was like, they're not supposed to be closed. Turns out it's Easter.

[Dan]

Yeah, but it's also Sunday. A lot of places are closed on Sunday.

[Jordan]

They don't close till three.

[Dan]

Okay, let's.

[Jordan]

Let's not get into this, all right? Business conversation.

[Dan]

Sure, sure. I love Easter.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because it's Candy holiday.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

I respect that. I think there's a lot of fun for hunting too. Like hunting eggs. Sure.

[Jordan]

And. And just general hunters and like, I assume rabbit and hare is in a higher food category.

[Dan]

No, no, no, no, no, no. That kind of hunting the other way. Poking around in bushes, looking for candy.

[Jordan]

Gotcha. Okay.

[Dan]

It's great.

[Jordan]

Not a brace of.

[Dan]

I know that a lot of people. It's a religious holiday to them and I respect that and I hope they're all having a great time. But jelly beans, the little chocolate gold coins. Sure, yeah. I'll take a gold coin. I think that I loved the whopper eggs.

[Jordan]

Those are the.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. Those were the shit.

[Jordan]

Those are the shit.

[Dan]

You know, Christmas is up there. Obviously. Halloween.

[Jordan]

Obviously. Halloween. Halloween is the, er. Candy holiday.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's un. Fuck. Withable. Except for. You know what? It's scary. I was a terrified little kid. Easter is not scary. Except for the cross stuff and the crucifixion.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Dan]

That's kind of scary.

[Jordan]

I think ghosts Are scary.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Ghosts are Halloween stuff.

[Jordan]

Well, so is Easter, if you think about it.

[Dan]

Yeah, I guess that's a holy spirit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So, yeah, it's. You don't have to get freaked out by, like, some weird neighbor who pretends to be on their porch and then jump scares you.

[Jordan]

No, it's.

[Dan]

You get candy and you don't have to deal with that.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. That's nice.

[Dan]

Yeah. Anyway.

[Jordan]

Yeah. What's your bright spot today?

[Dan]

It's Easter.

[Jordan]

Oh, you're. You're committing.

[Dan]

Well, yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And all right. It marks the line when Easter candy goes on sale.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's true. So I'm going to stock up on those. Those eggs. Those Reese's eggs. Oh, yeah, man. I've been. I eat too many of them.

[Dan]

I'm going to buy the. Buy the store.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. I try and I try and limit myself with the smaller ones with the fun size. That's just. That's a fool's errand. That just means I eat more overall because I can fit more of those fuckers in my mouth. Damn it.

[Dan]

I'm going to go to the local convenience store at peak hours and be like, a round of eggs on me. What's your bright spot?

[Jordan]

My bright spot is I'm going to go with the show called Flavortown Food Fight. Guy Fieri's new monstrosity of a cooking show.

[Dan]

That certainly has a name, screams Guy here.

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah, it does.

[Dan]

It is fight. Flavor Town.

[Jordan]

It is fantastic. He has built Flavortown.

[Alex Jones]

They have.

[Jordan]

They have given him enough money and enough space to build within a soundstage. A small, like, little wild west looking town.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

How many buildings?

[Jordan]

I think there's somewhere like eight. There's like eight small buildings.

[Dan]

That's a lot.

[Jordan]

There's some food trucks. But here's the part that's great about it. Here's the part that's great about it and the part that is terrifying about it. There are extras wandering around in the background while the cooking show is going

[Dan]

on to make it feel like it's Flavor Town.

[Jordan]

To make it feel like it's a populated flavor town. And I. I don't. I don't think it's okay to have that. One, I think they're chained up. They have to be chained there. And two, what are they saying to each other?

[Dan]

Who knows what they're saying to each other, but they. They probably are getting a lot of food.

[Jordan]

It's one guy just rode by on a bike. Like, that was okay.

[Dan]

I don't. Okay. I know this isn't the case.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But if they let them actually live there. Yeah, I think that'd be great.

[Jordan]

You think that's cool? You think that's you.

[Dan]

You're gonna be. For the next six weeks, you're gonna be a resident of Flavortown.

[Jordan]

I think. I think maybe capitalism has gone too far if you're a resident of Flavortown.

[Dan]

Yeah. We're well past the one country far.

[Jordan]

That's the ultimate company town.

[Dan]

So what's the food fight?

[Jordan]

A bunch of chefs. They have limitations, and then they make food that's essentially all Guy Fieri shows are really talented chef limitation. What food did you make? Judges have two nice things in a criticism.

[Dan]

That's not just all Guy Fieri shows.

[Jordan]

That's all cooking shows ever.

[Dan]

Almost. Almost everyone. Sometimes they have an amateur.

[Jordan]

Sometimes they do have an amateur.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's usually limitations.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that. Check that out.

[Jordan]

Don't.

[Dan]

When I'm bored as hell. Just watch Run out of episodes of the Price is Right.

[Jordan]

That cannot happen.

[Dan]

I'm testing it.

[Jordan]

All right. Good luck.

[Dan]

So good. For the background. So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

[Jordan]

Oh, boy.

[Dan]

We're going to be talking about March 28, 2026.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

Saturday. Yeah. Alex's day off. You decided. I'm going to fuck around and come in, obviously, do a show on the new Alex Jones network.

[Jordan]

Of course.

[Dan]

Shit's bad, man.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Testing the waters.

[Dan]

Well, there are some technical issues in terms of timing and stuff like that, but I mean, more content. Shit's tough.

[Jordan]

Oh, boy.

[Dan]

So we'll get to all that in a second. But first, let's take a little moment, say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

Ooh, that's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first, I never think to check the sources Dan mentions while debunking. I just assume he's right. Love you guys. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. But don't do that. No. Next. And that is why in times like these, we have so many titty babies. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. Next. I live in Moscow Rhymes with Idaho and Pastor Doug Wilson is a loser Little, little titty baby. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Moscow.

[Jordan]

It's Moscow.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I tried to add the H in there.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Moscoho.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Very different.

[Dan]

We had a technocrat in the mix too. So thank you so much to. I want to shout out my beautiful raptor. PR Princess Megan. Happy 10 year anniversary. You're the Owen to my Alex. But in like a good way. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

So I've got an out of context drop from today's show.

[Jordan]

Interesting.

[Dan]

And it, it's. It's a real dagger to my heart.

[Alex Jones]

Okay, now you saw me do that. You finished it. Like, we're simpatico, bro.

[Dan]

So I love your. We're simpatico, bro.

[Jordan]

We're simpatico, bro.

[Dan]

But here's why this stings. Why he's interviewing someone named Daniel at this point. And if he said, we're simpatico, Daniel. Holy shit.

[Jordan]

That would have been. That would have been the drop. Yeah, that would have been the one. That would have been. Yeah. Jesus. That would have been the master sword. That's what we're talking about there. Holy shit.

[Dan]

This is such a close call that I could feel it.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God. Oh, that's a rug pull.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Damn.

[Dan]

So we start off the show and first of all, Alex has decided to Trump no good anymore.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

But also loves Limp bizkit.

[Alex Jones]

It's Saturday, March 28, 2026. I am your battle hardened chronicler. 32 years in April in the war against the global. We have turned the tide. But Trump has been compromised. And now I will exclusively reveal to you the crystal clear master plan to kill the American recovery and relaunch the globalist great reset system. Thank you so much for joining us. I come to you live from the Alex Jones Network studios in atx, Texas, transmitting worldwide. I'm about to break it all down. Tomorrow's news today.

[Dan]

So if Alex truly believes what he's saying, that Trump has been compromised, then it feels like he should be treating it a little bit as more of an emergency than this. You would think the guy has the codes to the nukes and he's compromised and presumably doing someone else's bidding. But there's. There's always time to do movie trailer voice voices over Limp Bizkit. It's fun to think that the last Mission Impossible movie came out last year, and the series has been going so long that there was a time when Limp Bizkit got tapped to do the theme song.

[Jordan]

I forgot about that. Jesus.

[Dan]

That was Mission Impossible 2.

[Jordan]

Man. We gotta get a handle on this time thing. It's gotta stop for a while so we can catch up.

[Dan]

I went back and I watched the video for that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Kind of rules

[Jordan]

with the distance of time. We can appreciate Limp Bizkit in the smallest of diamond facets.

[Dan]

Well, you know what? You know what's so interesting about them is, like, they are so recognizable. I don't know how it. Even without Fred Durst singing, there's something about the bass and the guitar that is like. That's distinctive.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

In a sea of, like, new metal, bland. Everything melts together.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, when it's a Limp Bizkit

[Jordan]

track, I will tell you this. The bassist and the drummer are both very, very good.

[Dan]

Well, so is Westmoreland. He's on the guitar.

[Jordan]

He's okay. But. But the drummer is true. Like, it's shocking how good he is for being in Limp Bizkit.

[Dan]

Their rhythm section.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Shouldn't be that good.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Inexplicably good for what it makes the noise sound like.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Anyway, I was excited about Limp Bizkit.

[Alex Jones]

I don't know.

[Dan]

So Alex is like, hey, Trump's been compromised, man. He's made. He's making bad decisions. And Alex knew it was going to happen.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry.

[Alex Jones]

Here's the summation. The globalist brag Larry Fink bragged when Trump got in the first time ten years ago at the Davos Group. Publicly, he says, we're allied with China. America's done as a superpower. We're going to stop Trump with Xi Jinping and others. And they derailed Trump's recovery with the COVID release. And Trump bought into that scam that was pre packaged and engineered by the CIA with an Obama plan in Fauci.

[Jordan]

So we dropped him then and we didn't talk about him anymore.

[Alex Jones]

Trump got back in. It'll be war with Iran. That is the new Covid when they block the Strait of Hormuz. I said that before he was even President Elect.

[Jordan]

So we didn't elect him. We decided against it.

[Dan]

Yeah. At a certain point, Alex and his audience need to entertain the possibility that maybe Trump isn't constantly getting tricked by these guys. Maybe he was on board with the COVID response and actually wants to have A war with Iran. The idea that Trump is getting fooled all the time is something that's really only useful from the dramatic storytelling perspective. Like what the chronicler is pretending that he's doing. Well, for anyone living in the real world, it doesn't matter if Trump wants to do all this stuff or if he's getting tricked into it. We all have to live with the consequences of his actions. The story that Alex is telling here is interesting because it's exactly what you'd expect him to say, but if you think about it for a second, it starts to make him look really bad. Yeah, he's saying that Trump had a brilliant plan to save the country, but got tricked into taking Covid seriously during his first term, which derailed everything. Leaving aside the fact that Covid happened towards the end of Trump's term, even if what Alex is saying were accurate, then Trump would have a proven record of falling for globalist schemes and would be partially responsible for millions of deaths.

[Jordan]

Oh, and don't forget that the vaccine killed millions of people and is. So there's. On top of the people who died from COVID there's also people who died from the vaccine.

[Dan]

I was mostly attributing.

[Jordan]

Sorry, sorry. I keep forgetting to assume that the vaccine killed all those people.

[Dan]

So then he loses in 2020, and Alex takes on a religious crusade to overturn the election results and pretends that Trump is still the president, which seems strange considering his complicity with COVID but let's not get lost in the weeds.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's smart.

[Dan]

Then 2024 comes around, and Alex is entirely on board with Trump. It's necessary for the continuation of the human species that Trump get elected. I know it's embarrassing to look back on it, but that was Alex's sales pitch during the election.

[Jordan]

It really was.

[Dan]

Now we're here in 2026, and Alex is saying that even before Trump got sworn in, he knew that the globalist plan to derail Trump's brilliant plot to save America and was gonna be getting him into a war with Iran. And now here in 2026, Trump is knee deep in trying to get this war going with Iran. If Alex wants to hold onto the idea that Trump got tricked by these globalists, then he needs to also accept that he failed. If Alex was warning that this was the globalist plot to derail Trump, then neither Trump nor anyone who Trump listens to took Alex seriously. Pretending that Trump is compromised or that he keeps getting fooled by these globalists is a tactic Alex uses for one reason, and it's because it maintains the illusion that Trump was operating from a place of good faith. In the past, it was so obvious that Trump was a malevolent liar this whole time, and now it's gotten to the point where Alex can't even really pretend that he isn't, but he still needs to protect his own image. If Trump is just recently becoming a malevolent liar, then it doesn't necessarily reflect poorly on Alex for carrying all that water for him up till this point.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is. If you understand what he's doing. It's a rhetorical cover your ass tactic.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

That's.

[Jordan]

I mean, I wish that Americans, because of the way we deal with politics, we treat it like team sports. I wish we would learn a lesson from team sports and not give people like that, oh, I got tricked or I lost as an out. You know, Like, I don't care whether. When I used to watch football during the early aughts, right. I was a big fan of the Bears and everybody knew, everybody believed that Lovey Smith had the best intentions in his heart, but he was bad at his job, and so then he lost it. It's very simple, right? Like, it's. It's whether or not you have good intentions. If you suck, then you gotta go.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Yeah. You can explain away a loss because you fell for a fake punch.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But that's still an L. You shouldn't have.

[Jordan]

You shouldn't have fallen for the fake punt. It's your job not to fall for the fake punt.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Let's hire somebody who doesn't fall for the fake punt.

[Dan]

It's an explanation. But if you keep falling for a fake punt, you're fired.

[Jordan]

You're fired.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You keep losing games.

[Jordan]

I don't care how you feel about your loss.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. And talking about it is distracting.

[Jordan]

It is. It's problematic.

[Dan]

Yeah. So Alex does not like the idea of war with Iran, but that Venezuela shit was cool. Sure.

[Alex Jones]

And I said 28 days ago, when it started right here in this chair, I said, I hope this is successful and I hope I'm wrong. And I said, I will literally go get Dom Perignon champagne. Trump thinks it'll last a few days is what he's been told by his political advisors, if it works. But he was emboldened by Venezuela snatching Maduro. And all of that was a daring, incredible mission and super dangerous and a huge roll of the dice. But I said, for the first time, I had 32 years on air. Constitutionally, I supported that regime change. Because they're in our hemisphere working with Cuba and China.

[Jordan]

Wait, what?

[Alex Jones]

Killing our elections with the electronic machines they control the Mexican cartels. And I said, it's a gamble, but he has the authority. And listeners got so pissed, a lot of them are like, wait, you've never been for regime change. This is different. If you study the Constitution, the Barbary wars precedent with Thomas Jefferson, and then on through everything else that happened. William McKinley, the Monroe Doctrine.

[Dan]

One of the most obvious things you see if you listen to multiple episodes of Alex's show is that he doesn't know anything and everything is just talking points. He didn't accept the overthrow of Maduro because he studied the Constitution and he knows all the angles. He just got a couple of talking points to bring up whenever the subject comes up to give the appearance of depth.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

He just knows the words like Barbary wars and Monroe Doctrine. Probably because Roger, one of these other dipshits, told them these are the things to say.

[Jordan]

I mean, I will say that it's fun to say Barbary coast, sure. Yeah.

[Dan]

Also, why are we still pretending the Constitution matters? This is such a dumb farce where Alex is saying that the attack on Venezuela was cool because of his knowledge of the Constitution, but the attack on Iran wasn't. But Alex would have been fine with the attack on Iran if it worked out okay.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is his understanding of the Constitution entirely results based? If you can do unconstitutional things that are okay later, if nothing too bad happens, then you don't have a Constitution and Alex needs to stop pretending he cares about this shit at all. Yeah, it's silly.

[Jordan]

Yeah. We've reached Bible levels of not giving a shit about what it actually says.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like, oh, are you a constitutionalist? I'm sure you are. I'm sure you are.

[Dan]

Yeah. You know, the tree of Liberty needs to be, you know, fed with the blood of tyrants and pap patriots from time to time. But also, if you break the Constitution and it works out, it's fine.

[Jordan]

I mean, come on, they're in our hemisphere. Remember how we have hemispheres written into the Constitution? You can do things in different hemispheres.

[Dan]

Right. I don't know if Alex understands the difference between Constitution and precedent and, like, things that other people have done in the past.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But. Oh, well.

[Jordan]

Yeah, well, it's. It's like. It's like if everybody but us knew that laws were fake the whole time. And we're like, buddy, but you gotta follow him. No, no, no, you gotta do it. But they're not Real? Yeah. Come on.

[Dan]

Right. I. I think that when you make your life and your career about, like, you know, kind of fetishizing a rule. A set of rules.

[Jordan]

A set of rules, which ultimately is all it boils down to, it's a little silly.

[Dan]

When you're, you know, in the place

[Jordan]

that Alex is in, it seems odd.

[Dan]

So, look, man, the problem is that Trump, he meant well. He was a good guy, but Israel came along and screwed him.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Alex Jones]

And so Trump has meant well. Shutting down the border, getting 20 trillion investment, 10 trillion already here. They tried to crash the stock market. It didn't work. All these great things he was doing, trying to shut down the Ukraine war and so on. The Iran situation, with a huge Israel APAC lobby, the most powerful lobby, they were able to isolate Trump, bubble wrap him, get his good advisors away from him, and sell him on the idea that they had nuclear weapons imminently and that they were going to be using those weapons and that he had to take action. Then he gets the intelligence report five days before he decides to back off for a while. Iran comes to the table. Israel strikes first because they've got all their moles in the White House and in the negotiations, and they knew Trump was thinking sanely. Israel drags us in.

[Dan]

Understand that when Alex says that Trump met well, all that means is that he really doesn't want the audience to think that he was lying to boost Trump in the past. If the audience lets the Trump of the past off the hook, then Alex did nothing wrong. But if they start to understand that Trump was a piece of shit this whole time, it becomes way too clear how much of a fraud Alex's past decade has been. And they were the people being conned.

[Jordan]

They. Yep.

[Dan]

If what Alex is saying is true, that Israel attacked Iran to force Trump to join in, that doesn't make Trump's actions any more justifiable. And we now have to deal with the fact that Trump has directly contradicted this in public statements. If what Alex is saying is true, then the President is lying to the public repeatedly about his acts of war. It's fun to hear that, you know, Alex saying that Trump is compromised and it's cathartic to watch him try to get off this sinking ship. But it's also important to notice that he's not calling for Trump to be impeached based on what he's supposed to believe. Alex needs to be treating this the same way he treated Obama because they have both violated the Constitution, according to him.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

So it's silly. This is still supporting Trump.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Even though it's all this negative shit.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Based on his standard, like his baseline of behavior. This is positive.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That's why I. That's why I despise all media now. Is like, the idea of anybody saying, like, oh, no, we're not for Trump anymore, or anything like that means nothing until it starts with, ah, fuck, we were conned. He conned us. We will not be conned the same way again. Anything else is just, oh, well, right now we fucked up. We'll see you next time. We'll catch you on the 92nd ride.

[Dan]

And even that is dubious. Even that I'm going to be pretty suspicious of.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. It has to. It has to genuinely be like, hey, I conned myself. I got conned. And that is the con man.

[Dan]

And I will no longer seek to influence your decisions because my judgment sucks.

[Jordan]

It's so bad. Look.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So anyway, Trump's lying about these wars and shit, but, like, let's, let's, let's not impeach him. Yeah, he's a good guy.

[Jordan]

Oh, come on.

[Alex Jones]

Even if Trump tries to stop now and he's given them all these deals that were way better than ever before, the Iranians said, screw you, because in six months, you'll just disregard the agreement. You'll just reload with weapons. You've already killed our leadership. We are in total war with you. We are not backing down. So Trump keeps announcing they want to negotiate. They're begging. We are blowing them all up. On and on and on, and the opposite's happening. This is going on weeks and weeks and weeks ago. And I point out people say, oh, you're a liar, you're an Iranian agent. They're trying to give up. But now you see that's not the case. I just report the facts. May the heavens fall, justice be done. And the Democrats in the polls are going to win the midterms. They're going to try to impeach Trump. This is a nightmare. Trump is a good man, but I'm sorry, I'm not happy to focus on

[Jordan]

this, but that's a nightmare.

[Alex Jones]

Our whole agenda to save this country and save our children, do all this is in deep trouble. This is the main globalist gambit.

[Dan]

Trump has violated the Constitution, is committing acts of war against another country in a way that is gambling with our lives. Sure. And a nuclear World War Three. Yeah. But he's a good guy.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Kind of canopy, Jim. He's a good guy.

[Jordan]

You know, I was thinking about that earlier. I was thinking about that earlier, like, for whatever is going to happen now.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan]

What is also happening now is the next 911 in 10 years or 20 years or whatever. Probably in the same way that 911 didn't happen in 2001. It happened whenever we went into Afghanistan and blankety blank, you know, that whole

[Dan]

thing like that intended consequences.

[Jordan]

That is what is happening now.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

9112 is an inside job or at

[Dan]

least we should know better.

[Jordan]

Yeah, we should. We should know better.

[Dan]

We talked for like an hour and a half before the show about jury duty and how it would not be surprising if one of the people on that show ended up killing someone in like five years.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is the same thing.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It would not be surprising if another 911 is caused by what Trump is doing now.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's. It's like, oh, how could these people imagine flying a plane? And is it. Well, if you blow up their whole fucking family, it's a lot easier choice to make.

[Dan]

Yeah. And threaten to send them back to the Stone Age.

[Jordan]

Oh, if, if my choices are die or die killing you. Surprise. Lies.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's, it's. But he's a good man.

[Jordan]

He's a good man. He's a good man.

[Dan]

So I didn't realize there was a good man clause in the Constitution.

[Jordan]

It's like the hemisphere clause. You can't read it because it's on the other half.

[Dan]

Oh, the side, the side that you.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That Nicholas Cage had to find a map.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's how you found out about 911 lore.

[Dan]

No, no, no. It was a national treasure. So I was like, hey, you know, Alex is kind of shitting on Trump. I think we are watching the transition and the soft pitch of him trying to be like, I'm done with this shit.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. I need a new identity.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

My business is going to close inevitably and I would like to start fresh.

[Jordan]

The time is now for a change.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

If the business is going to close, you might as well say you hate Trump forever. Fuck it.

[Dan]

I think that he's trying to explore those waters.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And so I was, I was, you know, this is a three hour or whatever Saturday show. Theoretically. Like no commercials and stuff. So I'm like, we're going to get into it. Alex is going to talk about his feelings about the Iran war. And then, and then he said this.

[Alex Jones]

We're going to break. We're going to go come back with Daniel List, Wall Street Journal former writer, you name it. The very best Analyst on Trump saying, five weeks ago, we're going to release the classified UFO file. And then the head general over it all disappears three days later, and his aides all disappear. And then now you've got all these burning orbs coming in over Texas and other places. Absolutely insane. And you see them and I know I've seen something like this before, but never a whole bunch of them. I have what I believe it is. I mean, I know what it looks like, But what is going on? I'm gonna tell you the different pieces there and get dark journalists take on that.

[Dan]

Yeah, man. Dark journalist is gonna come in to talk about flaming orbs.

[Jordan]

Dark journalists. Oh, my God. I. Still. Shouldn't you have. Shouldn't you have stopped using that by now?

[Dan]

It's good branding.

[Jordan]

Is it?

[Dan]

It kind of implies that he's a journalist, but that he covers evil. He covers dark territories, like secret, hidden, esoteric stuff.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

The darkness. He, he. Journalism. Journalism.

[Jordan]

Interesting.

[Dan]

I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Trump is like clearly saber rattling for a nuclear war.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And has got himself. Alex has described it as fucking a beehive.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

And now we're going to talk about flaming orbs.

[Jordan]

Yes. FL Orbs. What did you not get about this? Bye, bye, bye bye, Trump. Nuclear war. Have you seen about UFOs lately?

[Dan]

So I was considering being like, well, I'll tune out for the rest of this.

[Jordan]

Absolutely not.

[Dan]

I listened to it. Yeah. And I will say that this is maybe as close as we've gotten to a Wacky Wednesday episode.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

In a while.

[Jordan]

I'm listening.

[Dan]

This goes into Camelot territory.

[Jordan]

Excellent. All right.

[Dan]

We may have found the synthesis of Alex and Camelot in the form of Dark Journalist.

[Jordan]

It feels like time. You know, whenever this amount of chaos happens all at once, then the Camelot will arise for us.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That is the case.

[Dan]

And I hope Alex does more of this. I might start doing episodes about Dark Journalist because he seems insane.

[Jordan]

The more esoteric we get, the better it is.

[Dan]

God, this is a joy. The rest of this is a joy. Fucking joy.

[Jordan]

Fantastic.

[Dan]

And it is low key. One of the most fucked up things I've ever heard Alex do on air. Like, by his standards.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't want to give it away too much. He might go to hell for this.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right. He blasphemes against the Lord.

[Dan]

Not just once.

[Jordan]

Oh.

[Dan]

So we start things off with dark journalists appearance with Alex bragging about Elon Musk's connection to Infowars.

[Alex Jones]

I remember in 2019, I told you that they're building a base already on the dark side of the moon for the main Martian launch. And that's where Elon Musk would launch his base from. Because I was told that by an Elon Musk representative and told. We just want to give this to you. We want you to say it as part of disclosure. And I said, are you sure? And I did that on record. We're going to find that Daniel remembers when I did it. The point is, we have a lot of sources and it's really weird how this stuff works. I'm not even.

[Dan]

It's very esoteric if we accept anything in that clip as being true. Then Alex met with the representative of a billionaire who told him to say that said billionaire was building a base on the dark side of the moon. And Alex said yes. I'm not hearing any proof being provided by the rep in this story.

[Jordan]

Wow. There is that.

[Dan]

Just that Alex was told that his participation was part of disclosure. It's esoteric stuff. So Alex couldn't really even explain it to you if you wanted to or had clearance.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I don't believe any of this story is true. But if it is, Alex is painting himself as a functionary trying to help a billionaire who hung out with Epstein colonize space.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's no good. Nah, I don't want. I'm gonna throw this out there. I don't want anyone to have a base on the moon. There is no possible way that some person having a base on the moon does not wind up with us going like, what do we need the Earth for anyways?

[Dan]

The only acceptable, I think, solution or progress in that direction is a unified all countries.

[Alex Jones]

Un.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Like we all have a base on the moon. Like everyone. Yeah.

[Jordan]

A nice big. It's a nice big melting pot base. That is the moon. The whole moon is one base.

[Dan]

And corporate interests aren't allowed.

[Jordan]

Corporate interests are not allowed.

[Dan]

That would maybe work, but what Alex is describing seems out of sync with his character.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Here's another guy who's like, sniffing out corruption and stuff.

[Jordan]

I see what you're saying about a base on the dark side of moon. It naturally, it's like, oh, it's the dark side. Makes sense, right? Disagree though. You think about it too long. Not enough light. Here's what you do. Base inside the moon.

[Dan]

Sure. That's step two. I mean, duh.

[Jordan]

Well, yeah, fair enough. But you gotta have the hole where you can see the light coming from.

[Dan]

Do you think that anyone would care about the dark side of the Moon. If that song didn't exist, like, do it have the mystique and the aura that it has?

[Jordan]

I think in it wouldn't be as popular. But to people who think about it often, the idea that there is one side that never gets light is kind of fucking crazy. If you. I mean, like, right, Like, I guess.

[Dan]

I think the song's doing a lot of heavy lifting.

[Jordan]

The whole. The whole of all the things. Like we get light sometimes, but sometimes not. And that side just doesn't get any.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

Yeah, but you know, physics can explain a lot. Anyway, Alex talks about what he thinks the orbs might be all right, these fire orbs that are appearing everywhere.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

I remember one time we'd had a party at our house. I'm like 14, barbecue. Everybody's leaving, like 10 o' clock at night.

[Jordan]

Night.

[Alex Jones]

I'm standing outside with my parents by the pool and this giant fireball comes in and does, you know, huge. And then the next day was the newspaper that was part of the International Space Station. They decoupled. Now we know now from the time, you know, when I was 14, that that there are 20 times the satellites, 100 times. I mean, my God, he launched. Launched thousands. And we know that they can, you know, be. When they're gotten rid of, they can be be sent into the atmosphere to be destroyed. But these look bigger than Starlink systems. And then we know that China has satellite killing systems. We know the US has it. There's a real huge space war going on. We know we're already in a kinetic war with China and Russia right now. And I know that in conus we have more systems to shoot these down on the ground and above. Or that's what they want to do is where we have more radar and other tracking systems to do it. So I would tend to think we're shooting down satellites over conus. We can shoot them at other places too, but would be here because we've got better analysis from the ground and air on it. Or could it be something else? We've also seen all these other orbs. These things are going on. So this is confirmed. This is going on.

[Jordan]

Just these other orbs. Just these other orbs during the day,

[Alex Jones]

see it at sunset, see the middle of the night. I mean, this is going on like hundreds of times a day, folks. Like giant burning things and then they explode. You can see stone meteorites. Remember my dad used to take me out whenever there was meteor storms that are known to be, you know, happening. A lot of them are, you know, well known and he'd say, that's a stony. See, it comes in and it's blue when it explodes, you know, turns orange, and then that's a metal meteorite. That's nickel. He explained to me, because I was astronomy when I was a kid. We used to go out all the time, had big old me telescopes, you name it. Looks like satellites to me, though. Not like meteors or is it something else. But I tend to think it's a space war. Oh, and that stuff's getting shot down.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Wow. Who could have guessed that Alex would think that maybe these things he's seeing on social media are evidence of a space war?

[Jordan]

There is a boring description that sounds true. There's a very technical description that seems very, very long that might be true. On the other hand, space war seems fun.

[Dan]

I don't think that Alex is the kind of guy who gets into, I don't know, wars in stars, like Star Wars.

[Jordan]

No, he doesn't. He's not interested that there's nothing fun or exciting about that.

[Dan]

Now this is a man desperate to talk about anything other than how much of a piece of shit his God king has turned out to be. He's gonna talk with a dub dumb about fucking flaming orbs.

[Jordan]

Hell, yeah. There's so many goddamn orbs all around. How do you. How do you not realize what you're doing? The moment you say orbs like, five times in a row? Like the moment you say orbs five times, you got to be like, I'm avoiding talking about Trump, aren't I? That's what I'm doing.

[Dan]

Yeah. I feel like when. So when I was growing up in Hawaii, yeah, there are a lot of cockroaches around everywhere.

[Jordan]

Orbish cockroaches.

[Dan]

But, like, when you talk to people, you could say, like, oh, man, found so many cockroaches yesterday. And they could empathize with you.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Alex is talking about orbs in the same way.

[Jordan]

You see hundreds of explosions a day, don't you?

[Dan]

We all know it.

[Jordan]

We all see them all the time. These hundreds of explosions that are happening in my. And they're different colors, right? They're pink, they're blue, and you should stop drinking. They say.

[Dan]

Now, here's what's crazy. Yeah. We're in 2026.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

There was a guy back in 2012,

[Jordan]

okay, who predicted the orbs, get the fuck out.

[Alex Jones]

But we also have individuals. I don't like to go off things like this, but it's so interesting. We had individual 2012 said in 2026. When there's going to be a war with Iran, that you will see the orbs appear. And I'm just like, who is this individual? The guy did dozens of interviews predicting this 2012. And how many years ago is that? 14 years ago, saying, when there's an Iran war, you will see these orbs appear.

[Dan]

So I want to make a very important point here, which is that this is brokered programming. I don't know if Dark Journalist is paying Alex to come on for exposure or what the exact arrangement is, but he just sent a blog post to Alex about some guy predicting orbs back in 2012, which is why Alex is covering it.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

This is killing time. And it might be because Dark Journalist is paying for the appearance, or it's entirely possible that Alex just doesn't want to do any work, so he's willing to let his guests fully lead the coverage, like survey. So this is about a guy named Chris Bledsoe who claims that he was visited by a UFO and then had a spirit encounter with an entity that he calls the Lady.

[Jordan]

Ooh.

[Dan]

Who gave him a vision of the future.

[Jordan]

I like the Lady.

[Dan]

He wrote a book called UFO of God back in 2013, and it includes a passage that appears to predict a massive world changing event in Easter 2026.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

If you believe his retelling of the message from the Lady, Israel and Iran are going to be at war and then thousands of orbs are going to appear out of the sea to stop the fighting and bring everyone to their senses.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry.

[Dan]

It will prove to everyone that there's more going on the world than these petty human concerns. And I guess peace will reign.

[Jordan]

I'm going to. I'm just going to go ahead and say this. I don't care what else happens if thousands of orbs fly up from the ocean. This has all been worth it. As long as I get to see thousands of orbs fly up from the ocean and stop a war. I'll take all of it.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

It works. Works for me.

[Dan]

So the thing is, this guy didn't predict that this was all going to happen on Easter 2026. In his book, he says the message was, quote, when the red star of Regulus aligns just before dawn in the gaze of the Sphinx, a new knowledge will come into the world.

[Jordan]

Ooh, that sounds fun.

[Dan]

He goes on to explain, quote, I have come to understand that around Easter 2026, there will be an end of the old way and a beginning of the new.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Dan]

He's come to understand that. Yeah, but the supposed prophecy doesn't say that. It says that Regulus has to align just before dawn in the gaze of the Sphinx.

[Jordan]

Ah, man. Never do specifics. Because you might get it right.

[Dan]

Well, but there's a lot of wiggle room in that prophecy.

[Jordan]

That's.

[Dan]

What if you're being specific.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What's just before dawn?

[Jordan]

Just before dawn.

[Dan]

How far is the Sphinx's gaze?

[Jordan]

This Sphinx's gaze is forever and nowhere.

[Dan]

Now, we don't have to worry about nitpicking this stuff because Regulus isn't a red star. And the lady probably wouldn't have gotten that wrong. There's already been a number of fun online hype cycles with possible dates coming and going for this. And we're having another one now. But if nothing happens, that's fine, because Regulus is actually supposed to be in the position the lady described this fall. So maybe the orbs will come that way.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's nice. Well, then, I got that to look forward to.

[Dan]

Also, fun fact, Bledsoe's book features a blurb from the one and only Jim Semivan.

[Jordan]

Hell yeah.

[Dan]

Who I don't remember anything about. Except his name.

[Jordan]

His name is Semivan. It will never not be stuck in our heads because we. I remember on our episode about him, I think we just said Semi Van back and forth for about five minutes.

[Dan]

He was somehow involved with the guy from Blink182 who was trying to uncover aliens.

[Jordan]

That sounds right.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think that. I think that's what he did.

[Jordan]

That sounds right. Oh, my God. Yeah. Orbs. How many orbs is the right amount of orbs for this to be an accurate prophecy?

[Dan]

I mean, thousands.

[Jordan]

Well, sure, but I mean, when you say thousands of orbs, I'm. I mean, if you think about thousands of orbs arriving up from the ocean, that's not that many. The ocean's really big.

[Dan]

True. I think it would probably cluster around coasts.

[Jordan]

Are they going to be giant orbs?

[Dan]

I don't know. This is not. No, I actually.

[Jordan]

Did we get a size estimate?

[Dan]

He talks about orbs as, like being kind of small. Like this Bludso guy is like. He takes pictures of dust particles and pretends they're orbs.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

They're small generally, but I think if you're gonna stop a war, they gotta be a little bigger.

[Jordan]

Well, that I suppose. I suppose. I'm asking, are we talking eyesight based orbs or is this gonna be. I have to just take people's words for it that they saw orbs.

[Dan]

I think we're all expecting it should be visual.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

If it doesn't happen, then it's a bad prophecy. Well, but if it doesn't happen, then may and you didn't see it.

[Jordan]

That's. That's a bad prophecy. I don't like that. I don't like that at all.

[Dan]

No, it's silly. And what fun.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it is. Delight orbs.

[Dan]

Alex is having to talk about this.

[Jordan]

Orbs will come from the ocean to save us from war.

[Dan]

Yep. So I want to be clear. Yeah, we're recording this on Easter. And if there are orbs coming up right now, that's on me. That's my bad.

[Jordan]

Here's what I like. Here's what I like about this is that we do now have betting websites for literally all and anything. Right. These prophecy guys either better be making a killing or they better be broke. Those are the only two options. Yeah, I want these prophecies up so I can bet against them.

[Dan]

Any other, like motivate, like, it wouldn't make sense otherwise. If they're not broke or rich.

[Jordan]

You got it.

[Dan]

So Alex mentioned earlier on that a general went missing and all of his

[Jordan]

aides, all this stuff, very scary.

[Dan]

And so. So there's a little part of that conversation here.

[Dark Journalist]

And they were highly, highly securitized and sensitized in those roles. So that's the highest possible security clearance you can get. And her role was more administration, passing the information back and forth. So between these two scientists.

[Alex Jones]

So that's beyond ultra Q. I forget what's that called?

[Dark Journalist]

Yeah, it is the special Q clearance. And then the next one up is the cosmic clearance. That is the highest. Yes, that's the highest level that you can get to when you're dealing with these projects. The thing is, this all came out through the physicist Rob, by the way,

[Alex Jones]

they have a top Justice Board official just came out who was cosmic clearance saying that the US runs Al Qaeda, but. Sorry, go ahead.

[Dan]

So to give some background on the conversation Alex and dark journalists are having, this is in the context of dark journalists trying to tie together some missing persons cases. Okay. A retired general named William McCasland disappeared on February 27, 2026. And his wife's 911 call hinted at being worried that he didn't intend on being found. According to reporting, he left his house on foot with a gun and the police put out a silver alert for him, which is like an Amber alert, but for senior citizens generally in situations where there's a concern that the person might not know where they are Right. The sense that I get from the stories I've seen are this is a tragic situation and I don't think anything about it necessarily points to conspiracy or alien. This 2026 disappearance is being connected to two other disappearances from 2025. One is a woman named Monica Reza who went missing while hiking in June. She was a scientist who co developed a nickel based metal alloy called Mondaloy back in the 90s who most likely had some professional connections to General McCasland. It seems like she did some research as part of a project that received funding from departments that McCasland was in charge of. So you can make a connection there, I suppose. The other woman is named Melissa Cassius who disappeared. She also went missing in June. She was last seen dropping off lunch for her daughter, then was caught on a surveillance camera walking down the highway about an hour later. She was wearing a backpack, but had Left all her IDs and devices at home along with her keys and her car. Police have gotten nowhere with the case, but interviews that her daughter and husband have done seem to strongly imply that they have reason to believe that she ran away. She worked at Los Alamos, so naturally she's connected to everything. Space weirdos love to connect things to, but it kind of feels like there was a bad domestic situation here. Cool that they, the daughter and the husband are like, come, come back. We can work through this. Sure. I think that they believe that she ran away with somebody. Okay, so like, all right, none of this is connected necessarily.

[Jordan]

This is just a bunch of unconnected tragedies that suck.

[Dan]

Yeah. And each of these stories aren't that suspicious. But if you're able to force connections between them, they start to look funny. I've seen so many blog posts and dipshit articles trying to say that Reza and McCaslin's they disappeared in similar ways. Which isn't true and is a ham fisted attempt at making the stories seem more connected. So these people's pain can be more easily exploited by folks like dark journalists. Anyway, dark journalist and Alex are trying to pretend that all these people had cosmic clearance, which is the level higher than Q. Cosmic clearance is a real thing, but it has nothing to do with space programs or even the US government. It's just the NATO equivalent of top secret. Yeah, it's not above Q. And these guys sound really stupid with this shit. Though I will admit I'll take all of it back if Orbs show up while we're recording this episode.

[Jordan]

Again, if Orbs show up, all bets are off.

[Dan]

Everything is conditional on us ending this episode and there being an orb.

[Jordan]

I'm stoked. If there are orbs, I take. Yeah, absolutely. I've learned a new part of the universe exists and I get to enjoy the. The revelation.

[Dan]

And this episode will be released even if we're wrong, as a time capsule.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

The moment before everything changed.

[Jordan]

Because we also have to hold ourselves accountable. We're not going to scrub our orb skepticism from the Internet. The orbs would presumably know.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think the orbs would laugh about it.

[Jordan]

The orbs have to have something greater than what we've got going on. So, yeah.

[Dan]

They'd take it. Like one of the people on Jury Tooth. Good humor.

[Jordan]

Very good humored orbs.

[Dan]

Yeah. So dark journalist has an interesting point that he wants to bring up.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dark Journalist]

I want to point our attention to Jared Isaacman's quote about the moon as well because it plays directly into the secret space program aspect. What's going on there with Isaacman is he says he puts out the statement that we'll never give up the moon again. That's his direction. The question is, give it up to who?

[Jordan]

Whom.

[Dark Journalist]

That would be the idea there. Exactly. Who are you speaking about? And so this. You know, if we go back into the literature, you're looking at 1972 as the last time that the US was up there with a manned mission.

[Alex Jones]

Which is the audio of the astronauts saying we're being followed by craft.

[Dan]

Dude was talking about China.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He's very clearly talking about how we again have a geopolitical rival. Yeah. And competition that could get to the moon. And like we. Yeah, he. He's saying. He's talking about.

[Jordan]

I recognize. I recognize the idea of we'll never give up the moon again. Right. Even if you. Even if you are suggesting that they. The conversation is two aliens. I'll throw this out there. I don't think anybody has ownership over the movie.

[Dan]

Nah.

[Jordan]

That's a very colonialist point of view regarding the moon. I think the moon is a public space for anybody who wants to show up.

[Dan]

We didn't give up on the moon because of anything other than there's not really a point.

[Jordan]

It's a big rock in space. What do you want from it?

[Dan]

We raced to it because of the

[Jordan]

Soviet Union in an insane manner. We're all pretending that that was a cool thing to do. But a lot of people are starving now because they were so fucking stup stupid back then.

[Dan]

And now we're doing it again because China's ascended. Great.

[Jordan]

It's good Stuff.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So anyway, a lot of this technology. Yeah, we have crazy weapons and all that because Tesla invented all this stuff.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dark Journalist]

It is interesting, too, because Tunguska has always been theorized that it was a test of a secret technology back then. This goes all the way back to 1908. There's a number of things that say, well, it could have been a natural disaster.

[Alex Jones]

That's what I heard from my sources. Was a Tesla test a larger.

[Dark Journalist]

Yes.

[Jordan]

In fact, an anime or something.

[Dark Journalist]

Oh, three. Caused an earthquake all the way in Manhattan under a dare. At a certain point, they said, can you actually do this? And he had caused an earthquake, and he had a machine that literally has a patent for developing and causing earthquake tremors. So there's no question that we have the technology for it.

[Alex Jones]

We have the former head of the Department of Defense in 97, William Cohen, saying, we have. We have. We have tectonic earthquake weapons.

[Dark Journalist]

Exactly. And so he admitted this is very interesting because he talked about weather warfare and everyone thought at the time, oh, it's just a conspiracy. You know, HARP is a joke or whatever. But as it turned out, Cohen, who was in an interesting position because he's working for Clinton, but he's a Republican, you have to wonder if he wasn't letting things out to sabotage Clinton at that point. And he's saying, well, you know, we have these weather warfare weapons. And he says it on the record. That's the first time that we get. If you go even further back, you're going to find LBJ talking about who controls the weather. This is 1962. In a speech that LBJ gives, who controls the weather will control the future. Well, he's looking directly at this entire situation and seeing the technology spread out. Because what they used to call LBJ was Senator NASA. This is somebody deep in the technology programs. That's not often brought up about him. You know, when people talk about him, you think about Vietnam or food stamps in history. But he was right in the heart of scientific innovation.

[Dan]

That's not what I think about. I think about his big old dick.

[Jordan]

I think about his huge dick. Yeah. I'm gonna have to say I think

[Dan]

about that giant D. Yeah, maybe I'm immature, but that's first thing on my mind.

[Jordan]

I've never heard a president refer to his dick as jumbo before, and now I have. So it's, you know, life is good.

[Dan]

Yeah, it sticks out in a crowd of presidents.

[Jordan]

It sure does.

[Dan]

So these guys are just credulous idiots. And the strain of idiocy that they're weak to it kind of helps make sense the world that we're in right now. Nikola Tesla was a very gifted inventor, but was also a shittalker. For every story that can be confirmed about him, there are a hundred obviously fake stories that get passed down as lore. The story about him causing an earthquake is one of these lore ones, and these dudes just accept that as gospel fact. This illustrates the first strain of idiocy, which is falling for scammers hype when they feel like there's something they stand to gain personally from from it. They're fundamentally scammers. So on some level, they know fully well that Tesla didn't build an earthquake machine, believing this part of Tesla's shit talk is useful to them. So they're happy to buy into it to the point where it's kind of indistinguishable to a viewer if they actually believe this stuff or not. And it doesn't really matter.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

The stuff about LBJ and weather weapons gets to the second strain of idiocy, which is the need to believe fun explanations over obvious ones. LBJ wasn't talking about some kind of weather weapons that we had. He was giving a speech to Congress arguing for them to approve more weapons research funding because we needed to keep up with the Soviet Union. If they developed weather control weapons, we'd be at their mercy. So he needed to outspend them no matter what. When Trump's NASA head is saying that we aren't going to give up the moon again, this is just the same shit. It's a politician insisting that we need to divert huge amounts of public spending towards stuff that doesn't directly impact anyone's lives.

[Alex Jones]

Lives.

[Dan]

Because if we don't, the enemy will get the upper hand and use it to directly impact our lives negatively. China isn't going to take over the moon, just like LBJ wasn't talking about real weather weapons that the Soviet Union was building. But those are more fun explanations for this stuff than saying that politicians like to scare us so we don't notice that it would be possible for us to demand that these public funds be used to actually help people instead of feeding huge contracts for weapons manufacturers and creeps like Elon Musk.

[Alex Jones]

Musk. Yeah.

[Dan]

So this is the weakness that these people have. The two main. Two major strains of it.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's no good. It's no good. I would wish. What? All right, so you've got these weather weapons.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

All right, here's the problem with all these weapons manufacturing in their minds. Right. In their minds, they have weapons that look cool.

[Alex Jones]

Cool.

[Jordan]

And thus, because they look cool, must be effective. Right. But if you're fighting a war, an earthquake is uncontrollable and could affect you as much as the other person. Furthermore, at the end of a war, presumably, you want somebody's stuff, and you're

[Dan]

going to break a lot, and you're

[Jordan]

going to break so much of that stuff.

[Dan]

It's the same reason why Trump is reluctant to bomb oil fields.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's a bad idea.

[Dan]

You get.

[Jordan]

You want the stuff.

[Dan]

Yeah. You lose the thing that. The plunge or whatever.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. This is about money.

[Dan]

Yeah. And on some level, it's the same thing with, like, why a bioweapon is not in anyone's interest to use unless you have a cure.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Well, I mean, for sure.

[Dan]

And even. And even that's dicey. The idea of uncontrollable aspects, it's just not a good line to go down unless you want to destroy the world. And you're the villain in that movie, the Avengers, not the Marvel one.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. No. Sean Connery.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah. He does have weather weapons. Those are pretty cool.

[Dan]

Yeah. Now that. That guy makes sense.

[Jordan]

That guy does make sense. Sean Connery, in a lot of movies, destroying the world does make sense in some weird form or fashion.

[Dan]

So, you know. You know those. Those Nazis, I've heard of them. One of them, yeah. Werner von Braun. Sure. He came over here.

[Jordan]

Rocket Nazi, I call him.

[Dan]

He came over here. He also wrote a book that predicted Elon Musk would rule over Mars.

[Jordan]

Oh, because he. God damn it.

[Dark Journalist]

Exactly. They're so far beyond what we're doing. I mean, how do you even get to that point? Of course, there's a classic case. One of these scientists who was working on the Los Alamos project came out and said, we had what was rolled out to the public in 2012 of computers and this level of technology. We had it in the 1960s. They've already had that. They already had that.

[Alex Jones]

My dad was in plan two, DARPA program, and he said, though, in the mid-60s, he's, like 15 years old. They had CD ROMs and, like, computer screens.

[Dark Journalist]

Wow.

[Jordan]

Wow.

[Alex Jones]

Think about it.

[Dark Journalist]

It's incredible.

[Jordan]

Think about it.

[Dark Journalist]

They were trying to give us hints back there. I think there were figures like von Braun and others, and they get played out. These things get played about who these people were and all the rest. The point is that they were.

[Alex Jones]

Von Braun writes a book about how Elon becomes the colonizer of Mars.

[Dark Journalist]

You know, I've gone through the book. It's from 1949. There's no escaping it. You know, the idea. He wrote and said, oh, I bought

[Alex Jones]

a physical copy for 600 bucks at my house.

[Dark Journalist]

That's great. Well, you got it cheap. That's the way I think about that. Here's the thing. Oh, my God, Project Mars. And there's two of them, but this one has the Deep Dive in it, and it says he will be leader of the committee of 20, and he will be overlooking this entire government on Mars, and he will be the Elon Musk. And then you have, you know, this very interesting background of Musk and the fact that his mother was very involved. His mother's family was very involved with searching for ancient relics in South Africa of a very ancient civilization. This is not often brought up.

[Dan]

Or mining.

[Jordan]

That's a wildly, wildly positive way to spin stealing from black people.

[Alex Jones]

Hmm.

[Dan]

So we've talked about this before, but in von Braun's book, Elon isn't a name, it's a title. And there's good reason to believe that Musk's Nazi ass dad named him after this because. Because he has said he knew about that book. Yeah.

[Jordan]

And he's a Nazi.

[Dan]

If Alex is telling the truth, then he either massively overpaid or massively underpaid for this book. It was written in 1953, but never got published in English until 2006. And you can find the earliest commercially released edition in English for, like, 50 to 100 bucks. Conversely, you can find earlier printings that were specifically done, like, at universities. But these are really rare, and I've seen them go for, like, around $2,500.

[Jordan]

Jesus.

[Dan]

I don't think that that's what Alex is talking about buying, because the version that was released pre 2006 didn't include the narrative portion of the book. Yeah, it was just, like, a bunch of technical specifications and.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And shit. So I don't. You wouldn't have the Elon part in that, I don't think.

[Dark Journalist]

I don't.

[Dan]

I don't believe any of this.

[Alex Jones]

If I.

[Dan]

If there's one thing that I can say about these guys, though, is that they love to have a good time and they don't let inconvenient details get in their way. Sure, this book mentions a leader called an Elon, and Elon Musk is named Elon, but they neglect that Von Braun's novel is set in a world where the US And Russia had a nuclear war that ended with a decisive Victory and the creation of a one world government. A Mars program was feasible in his imaginary setting because there was no need for military spending anymore because world peace had been achieved.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

Also, the Elon in the book isn't a human who colonizes Mars. It's a title held by a Martian who human astronauts meet and befriend.

[Jordan]

Hmm.

[Dan]

But you gotta give it to these guys. They're having more fun believing their own silly version of this shit than they possibly could if they took it seriously.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So, yeah, I bet they. I bet they're not very interested in reading Vernon Brown's actual novel.

[Dan]

I don't. I don't. I don't know if dark journalists did.

[Jordan]

Yeah, exactly. Why would you. That's only going to get in the way of enjoying that novel existence.

[Dan]

The only thing that matters about the novel.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is the word Elon, Right? Yeah. And how you can tweak that around and make it fun.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

That's really it.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Anything else is just gonna get in the way and you're gonna be like, wait, hold on. Russia and the United States had a nuclear war and world peace was achieved afterwards. That doesn't match up with the world we live in. Just because this guy's name is Elon and his dad was a Nazi who read this book, like that means it's prophetic. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, if you apply that kind of thinking to one absurd, ridiculous Nazi prophecy, then you might apply it to the next one. And all of a sudden you might think, these Nazis don't know the future

[Dan]

before you know it. You're questioning orbs.

[Jordan]

You're questioning orbs. Jesus Christ, what's even the point?

[Dan]

All right, so I. I have a question.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And that is, do you think that this is off the rails at this point, this interview that they're having?

[Jordan]

I mean. Well, okay, by definition, no. Because the rails that they're on are a special kind of rails. You know what I'm saying? These are the rails that are taking us into the stars.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Right. But if. If you're an outside observer, you would say that they're not on rails at all and that they're very dangerously about to fall.

[Dan]

Okay, so this next clip, I would argue it's either already off the rails or this is where a train.

[Jordan]

This is where.

[Dan]

Okay, Alex is talking about how Trump is using magic weapons to drop meteors into the Gulf of Mexico where military are going to mind them. And so that's. I'm sorry, this is where the clip starts.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Then it goes off the rail.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

Okay. We have geoengineering system going every major operational by 92. We just get used to this now we're just going to have constant mining. Dropping the asteroids into the ocean to be. And it's in the news. Suddenly Trump has all these ships out grabbing things off the bottom. Not involved. They're like we go right to spots and the stuff's right there and it's all secret. We know what we're grabbing by the way. Why do you think. Just why do you think I was told in 2019 by an Elon Musk high level person about what is that really launched to Mars from the moon and already had a base up there. Remember I did that on record now. It was confirmed last week and they won't even. There's like we're not, we. We don't even know. You need to. It's so weird because they control time and space. They've already looked at the timeline.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry, what?

[Dark Journalist]

Well yeah, the futuring activities, the remote viewing and the things that are going on.

[Dan]

So. Okay, look, the mining thing we're gonna have to leave aside.

[Jordan]

How do you not. How does what. How does that even make sense as a, as a thing to mine?

[Dan]

Don't worry about it. So Elon Musk on it. His representative came to Alex because they control time and space.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And they had seen into the future and they knew that Alex needed to disclose that they needed a Mars base or a moon base to launch to Mars.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

So yeah, they could see the future. And that's why Alex.

[Jordan]

Okay, so all right, this is, this, this goes back to my problem with them at the 60s and being like they already had CD ROMs and shit. And he's like well then, then, then they're not technologically advanced enough. That's crazy for them to only be a few years ahead.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan]

That's not that big a deal.

[Dan]

Well, let's, let, let's. Yeah. Let's agree on that. And let's also agree that, that they aren't that great. Because we'd all be dead by now.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

If they had the kind of technology that Alex fantasizes about. The world they want to achieve is so easy to achieve. They don't care about human life.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Why wouldn't. We'd all be dead like most of

[Jordan]

us at least we wouldn't be able to understand them. They are alien. The entire concept of them being able to understand this would make them, would make them understand us.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

They're aliens.

[Dan]

If they have control over time and space, we're all dead.

[Jordan]

Once you're. Once you're there, buddy, let's call it out. Let's just relax. They have control over time and space. Well, then whatever I'm doing is probably what I did or will do. So I'm going to chill.

[Dan]

Let me ask you this.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Do you have any control over time and space?

[Jordan]

I have zero control over time, over space.

[Dan]

Sit this one out. Then you know what?

[Jordan]

They must be controlling time and space right now for me to pop open this beer and have a little drink. Drink.

[Dan]

You know what they can't control?

[Alex Jones]

What?

[Dan]

Fun.

[Jordan]

They cannot control fun.

[Dan]

So we're off the rails. Musk controls time and space, and Alex was used as a vehicle to disclose the moon base.

[Jordan]

Okay, so you're controlling time and space. Naturally. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

[Dan]

I would. I would still play Diablo if I was controlling time and space.

[Jordan]

Well, you've got. Well, honestly, you've got time.

[Dan]

That's how he leveled up so quickly.

[Jordan]

That's right. It's the only thing that makes sense.

[Dan]

Everyone thinks he cheats. No.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Magic.

[Jordan]

We talk about this from the point of view of being like, oh, you're telling me that Alex has got a. You know, got to go to. Imagine if you were the person who controls time and space, though, and the time and space told you that you had to go tell Alex. Right. For disclosure, you'd be like, what the fuck is going on? Well, I don't think I control time and space.

[Dan]

I think once you're in a position where you control time and space, and you're in a whole other type of conversation you're having with people, this is way above. Way above cosmic clearance.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think you just kind of obey, you know, like you go to Gene Hackman.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Dan]

Like, if you're that person, Right. You don't question, like, okay, I gotta ask Alex to do this thing. He's a fucking idiot. But there must be a reason.

[Jordan]

How about if I have control over time and space, I control it in such a way that I never have to tell Alex that anything.

[Dan]

How much. Okay, here is the point.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

How much control does Elon Musk have over time and space? And how much does he feel an illusion of control over time and space?

[Jordan]

I imagine that his entire life is an illusion of control over time and space.

[Dan]

Yeah. And Diablo.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So Alex, he's talking to dark journalist. And dark journalist has an idea about Alex. He said that stuff he Leaked that stuff about Elon Musk wanting to build a Mars base and a moon base. And that's when his legal troubles got bad.

[Dark Journalist]

No, it's very interesting to note, and this is just my own theory on this, but I also seem to notice that your legal troubles and all these other things went through the roof as soon as you started getting absolutely. Aspects of space in the UFO file. Suddenly they were like, you know, this is very dangerous on their side because they see someone coming forward. Forward who's not going to be in that.

[Alex Jones]

Well, that's what they told me in his off record meetings. I won't say it. The richest guy in the world at that time, you mentioned him earlier. They give me these law firm about something else. They go two day meeting about this. They said, we're just worried in general how big your audience is. We want to filter through us first. 50 million a year or we're going to destroy you. And I was just like, no, but it was exactly that. It was like, we're just worried about your following that you'll just cover the wrong thing.

[Dark Journalist]

Oh, yeah. Well, it's very interesting because they did a number of things to try to shrink your reach and as they did that, it increased your reach new.

[Dan]

So I was at Alex's trial and I thought the legal troubles were caused by him supporting Trump and Hillary wanting to punish him for it.

[Jordan]

I remember him saying those things on the stand.

[Dan]

Yeah. Now that Trump clearly sucks. I guess they were concerned that he was getting too close to the truth about aliens.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that sounds like the big problem that we've had.

[Dan]

I've heard Alex tell this story about the richest man in the world thing and trying to get bought off and whatever, but I don't think I've ever heard him be specific this time. He said that dark journalist had said the guy's name earlier. So I know that it's Jeff Bezos.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's who Dark journalist was talking about before.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Alex will literally do anything for money. He used to run ads for magic cancer cures sold by people who ended up being convicted of fraud. He said that Reset wars was the culmination of his career because a get rich quick YouTube guy paid him to. He's one of the most embarrassingly naked scammers in the modern media. So there's no way, I believe that if someone offered him $50 million, he would turn it down. Unless he was making more than that.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

To be clear, I think this is a fake story and Alex isn't making more than 50 million a year. But I can't possibly believe that he wouldn't take that offer if someone was dumb enough to make it.

[Jordan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dan]

If so, especially someone who actually has 50 million to burn, like Bezos.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I would. I think I would be hard pressed to turn down $50 million a year. So much fucking money. That's crazy.

[Dan]

It. It is. Fuck you money.

[Jordan]

Well, I mean, actually, I would turn it because. What. What would I even know? I can't. I can't be trusted with that shit. No, I'll just. No, I'll just stay here. I'll just stay home.

[Dan]

I like to think that I would turn it down.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because of the same thing. I don't.

[Jordan]

I don't.

[Dan]

I don't think it would be good for me. I don't think it would be bad for everyone.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

[Dark Journalist]

I, um.

[Dan]

But, yeah, who knows? That's a. You know, you're in that moment, who knows what your choice they're gonna make?

[Jordan]

I. I mean, honestly, I'd just be like, I'll just give it to my wife, so. I don't know. Give her the job.

[Dan]

That's not what Bezos is offering.

[Jordan]

No, it doesn't seem like it.

[Dan]

So Alex's legal trouble kicked up because he was releasing this intel that Musk insiders had told him because they had seen the future.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And apparently the bad guys, maybe they have some future people. Oh, I don't know, man.

[Jordan]

Now I'm listening then.

[Dark Journalist]

But there was a certain point where if you mentioned your name, you know, forget it. You were. You were off. You were gone.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, that was part two. That was part two in 2019. Right. When you said that.

[Dark Journalist]

Yes.

[Alex Jones]

They put out the new rules for Facebook. People don't believe this. They look it up. I said, There are 12 individuals that we allow violence against. You're allowed to promote violence against them. And the top one was Alex Jones. And it said, you will not say his name. They had an article that showed me in Wire where my face is covered up and I'm red, white and blue.

[Dark Journalist]

Blue.

[Alex Jones]

And this black grim reaper has grabbed me. And I was like, what? So it was. So I figured it out. Somehow on a timeline, they figured out with projections that something I was going to do was going to mess them up.

[Dark Journalist]

Oh, that is incredible. They could have literally predicted it through remote viewing, because what happens with remote viewing? And it was explained to me by the person who was the father of remote viewing, Russell Tarr. He's been on my program many times. He got out of the business. Because the CIA co ops.

[Dan]

I like to imagine dark journalist interviewing a guy taking a drag off a cigarette and just muttering about how he got out of the remote viewing scene because it went corporate.

[Jordan]

Ah.

[Dan]

Time traveling with your mind just wasn't the same after the man got involved.

[Jordan]

How exactly do you get out of it?

[Dan]

You just kind of quit?

[Jordan]

You just. Are you. Are you telling me that I'm just. I'm an evil government organization with a nigh infinite power and the ability to control time and space and I'm just gonna let this motherfucker walk away?

[Dan]

Well, you have to understand that he also can see the future. So he knows what you're gonna do before you do it. You're in a.

[Jordan]

Then I would strongly suggest he choose to do something different.

[Dan]

You're in a tic tac toe situation.

[Jordan]

Right. I've already chosen which. I've already chosen which toe to take. You choose next, buddy.

[Dan]

Two psychic powers cannot go up against each other because they'll always know what the other's gonna do.

[Jordan]

What the other's gonna do. Ah. No.

[Dan]

So it's funny to remember how Alex used to insist that he didn't cover stuff that he can't prove. And all of this stuff is in the documents and the white papers. And now he's yelling at a dipshit blogger about how remote viewers looked into the future to see that he was too dangerous to their plans. So they changed Facebook's rules so you could be mean to him. It's so dumb. And let's also not forget that Trump is starting a war with Iran and has been compromised. And this stupid shit is the best use that Alex can come up with for his time. It seems to me like Trump has gone ahead and fulfilled all the globalist plans that Alex was always worried about. So if the globalists had remote viewers that could actually see the future, it feels like they wouldn't have minded Alex supporting Trump. It actually kind of feels like he was instrumental as a part of their plans coming together.

[Dark Journalist]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And this introduces a terrifying possibility, which is that the remote viewing globalists did see the future. And they knew that the only way to get their desired outcome was if Trump was in office. But they tricked everyone into thinking he was their enemy. The only way for them to succeed was to get their mortal enemies, the Patriots, to rally around Trump. And the easiest way to do that was to pretend to attack him. The Patriots would see the globalists not liking Trump. Trump, and they'd be suckered into thinking that you only get flack when you're over the target. Uh, if that's the case, then Alex's entire past decade has been him playing a perfect role as a Judas Goat leading the Patriots to slaughter, but thinking he's taking them to freedom. Anyway, don't. Don't forget about the Easter sale. Lot of maybe Rafael.

[Jordan]

Lord and savior Jesus Christ arose from the dead today.

[Dan]

Watch out for those orbs and psychics who think you're dangerous and. Okay, man.

[Jordan]

Okay, so we're. We're in. We're in. Avengers. Endgame level of like we. I've checked the Time stone. There's only one out of several million potential futures.

[Dan]

Yeah, Dr. Strange.

[Jordan]

But again, see, imagine so from outside we go, ah, that sucks. And is dumb. Right? But imagine if you're Dr. Strange, you're going through all these goddamn futures. You're like, ah, lost, lost, lost, lost. Shit, shit, shit, shit. Alex Jones. God damn it.

[Dan]

No, I lost. Lost.

[Jordan]

And then you have to circle back to Alex Jones.

[Dan]

I like to think about this differently. I like to think that Dr. Strange is looking at all these possibilities and he's like, oh, my God, the only one that works is the one where we fucking mess with and antagonize Alex Jones for a decade.

[Jordan]

Yeah, there's that, there's that.

[Dan]

That seems like a win win.

[Jordan]

What's better about this though, is the idea that of all the ones that Dr. Strange could have chosen, maybe there was like 50. Right. But he chose the funniest, weirdest one. And that's why that guy's gotta go.

[Dan]

But I think that if you look at what Alex is saying, there's no way to see the past, like, decade of his career as anything other than a tragic mistake on his part.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

Either he got tricked into it by people who saw the future.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Or he was a useful tool for someone else who saw the future. There's no way. It was just good.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I mean, once you get to. Once you get to somebody who has the information advantage of the future over you, you never had a chance. You're playing by. You're playing different games, Alex. No shame in losing God, but God doesn't have control over time and space.

[Dan]

I think he does.

[Jordan]

Oh, shit. Well, then, God, buddy, Alex is back in the wrong horse right now.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think so. So Alex talks to dark journalist. Sure.

[Jordan]

Okay, so on one side it's God and the Bible and Jesus, and on the other side it's dark journalist and a Nazi rocket guy. Cool. Just throwing that out there.

[Alex Jones]

So.

[Dan]

But you forget about the orbs.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I did forget about the orbs.

[Dan]

So Alex asks, what do these orbs portend?

[Jordan]

What do these orbs portend?

[Alex Jones]

What is this harbinger of? Reportedly people are seeing hundreds of these now today I wanted to sit on my deck and get ready. What the hell? What is this harbinger? What is this mean?

[Dark Journalist]

This could very well be that the government is able to predict the waves of UFO. If you go through the history like I mentioned, 97 there were waves that were involved. 1973 was a wave if you go through it, and then 74 and 75 you don't see anything. If you look at it, if you go into the 80s, you'll find particular years. 1989, there's a wave. There's a wave where craft lands in a park in Moscow and it makes the news over here and they do regular news reports about it. Oh, these crafts are just landing in these parks and like, you know, families are looking at these craft lands.

[Jordan]

Goddamn.

[Dark Journalist]

That whole thing about the case of Voronezh, which is the first major Russian case that went around the world, you know, these beings actually came out of the craft and the Voronezh incident in 1989, in fact, the first thing that happened during this Ukraine war were some of the most high end Russian planes that went down in the beginning of the Ukraine war went down right in Voronezh.

[Dan]

Can't be a coincidence. So Dark Journalist is pretty close to getting it here. Here these things do come in waves, or at least they have in the past because people are really suggestible. When a TV show like Unsolved Mysteries did an episode about Bigfoot, Bigfoot sightings would miraculously increase.

[Jordan]

Crazy how that works.

[Dan]

An idea is introduced into the masses minds and now that's a possible explanation for something that would otherwise be ignored. What you might have thought was just some uninteresting wildlife in a bush that you didn't get a good look at. Can now be.

[Jordan]

That could be big. Yeah, that could be it.

[Dan]

It's so exciting. What's interesting is that now social media is ubiquitous and people can just make fake videos so easily. So we're kind of at a point where there probably won't be waves with this stuff anymore. It's just another way that the modern world is kind of sucking the fun out of all this crazy shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it'll be like a low background radiation from the big bang. We'll just be able to sense everywhere somebody's got a cryptid going.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. So Dark Journalist fails to point out that the only witnesses to the alien encounter in a public park that he's talking about were children who were clearly lost, lying.

[Alex Jones]

Wow.

[Dan]

They claim that one of them was made to disappear with a ray gun, but then reappeared after the aliens left. It's all just fun kid stuff. It's obviously not true. But locals realized they could make some money off playing into it for UFO tourists.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And Dark journalist has weighed all the evidence and decided that aliens must have landed in this Russian park in 1989.

[Jordan]

That sounds true.

[Dan]

What a dipshit.

[Jordan]

Okay, so if you've got got interstellar travel, right, and the ability to manipulate time and space, but in the 60s you're only throwing around CD ROMs. This is a problem for me because that means that we should conceivably have had interstellar travel congruously with CDs and such. And I feel like we are not even close.

[Dan]

Well, yeah, I. I wonder if part of. They don't specify, but I wonder if part of the rules are you can't go back or like you can't alter the past.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

So maybe at the point that we developed control over time and space, sure we can go forward and see stuff, but we can't do anything in the past.

[Jordan]

Hmm.

[Dan]

That would, that would get around some of this. Because otherwise you could just go back and give yourself the technology.

[Jordan]

Right? Right.

[Dan]

Just probably how Tesla made that earthquake.

[Jordan]

Right? Yeah. Their problem though is that there is no mathematical difference between the past and the future. It's just a perspective. Perspective.

[Alex Jones]

Weird.

[Dan]

Well, there's no difference between orbs and orbs.

[Jordan]

Orbs, orbs, orbs.

[Dan]

So Alex remembers something that he saw and it's shocking to imagine that he had forgotten this.

[Alex Jones]

I didn't even say this yet because it sounds wild. I get up at like 5am and I don't have my phone on me. So I go get a cup of coffee. I go out on the back porch by the pool and this was just. I took a vacation for like seven, eight days. When did I come back? Came back Tuesday, Wednesday morning. So it's Wednesday. I'm up there at 5:30 in the morning with a cup of coffee and all of a sudden like there's a square of red drones flies over really fast. Like three here, three there. So I guess it was nine. And all of a sudden they merge into one white light. I'm like, my phone, my phone. And then it just disappears. That's what I'm saying. We're in another. Like there's fireballs every day. I just Remembered this. It's just like. It's so Twilight Zones. Things are so crazy. I didn't remember this until you said it because, you know, it's 5:30. You're kind of half awake with a coffee.

[Dan]

I don't believe, I don't. I don't believe you would forget this.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry, are we saying that a situation similar to the burning bush from Ledger happened and I was like, ah, I forgot about it.

[Dan]

Well, it just happens all the time. It's crazy town.

[Jordan]

All right, so Voltron appeared and then Disapparated in a blast of black blinding light.

[Dan]

But, yeah, this reminds me of how folks like Alex talk to their audience about, like, city crime.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, it's like, it's. You just walk down the street, you're

[Jordan]

gonna get stabbed everywhere. You look left, you look right, there's blood on the ground.

[Dan]

And an orb holding a knife.

[Jordan]

A goddamn orb holding a knife.

[Dark Journalist]

Knife.

[Jordan]

A flaming knife, too.

[Dan]

Yeah. Like, people who live. Like the audience is probably largely. Maybe rural.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

Live in smaller communities away from. They just assume like, oh, yeah, Alex lives in Austin. There must be orbs there all the time.

[Jordan]

There's orbs all the time. He's just walking around in the woods. And there's like six or seven different alien species who have independently traveled eons of space to get fucking here. So they can look at Alex Jones near a creek and go, fucking grunt. What a good use of my time.

[Dan]

No, they probably saw Alex and they're

[Jordan]

like, get out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get out of here.

[Dan]

So this next clip. Yeah, I'm gonna say Mike down for this because I really need you to absorb every bit of it.

[Jordan]

Absorb it.

[Dan]

No, it was good. It was good. Good wordplay.

[Jordan]

No, no, no, no. Don't give me any encouragement.

[Dan]

I just can't. I can't, I can't deal with funny right now because this clip is so shocking.

[Alex Jones]

I just want to ask you about this. I personally, and I've told these stories and I've demonstrated it on air. When the time is right, like I said, Trump will announce each one at 1:27 tonight. Like I said, because the thing just told me and, and I, and I get woken up and the, you know, the, the, the go, look, turn your phone on. It's gonna be this time and it is now. Listen, we're going to tell you we're gonna try to kill Trump out of public event. Don't have him do that or try to blow his airplane. Ups and rebels and you Say whatever is the Watchers. Whatever. I get the stuff. Stuff throughout my life. And so I don't like to go off things like this is just so much con artistry. But you can't. I don't know your view on this, if you know who he is, but UFO researcher Chris Bledsoe claimed in 2012 in a bunch of interviews that I ran Israel missile exchange that orbs would rise. This is 14 years ago before any of this from the oceans.

[Dan]

Two huge things about that clip. First is how forced the question about Chris Bledsoe is. Yeah, this is obviously a blog post that Dark Journalists sent Alex to cover. And Alex is having to pretend that he's bringing it up organically. It's comics unleashed levels of clunky delivery.

[Jordan]

It's a sight read.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Second, and far more importantly, Alex seems to think there are a bunch of gods and now they're called the Watchers.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

In the past he's been very clear about who's giving him these predictions and late night performance reviews. It is the Christian God, Alex suggesting that maybe he's being talked to by someone that he refers to. They call themselves we. And who he says might be the Watchers is literally heretical. Alex doesn't get scolded in the middle of the night by angels. And it's not angels that recruited him to take out the devil over chicken fried steak. It was the big guy. The way Alex is talking makes it very clear that he knows that Dark Journalist is an idiot who will go along with his dumb stories about being a psychic. But Alex isn't sure that he's religious.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So it's clear that Alex is going out of his way to tell this story but avoid saying God or Jesus in case Dark Journalist is an atheist. And if Alex's faith was sincere, he would know that what he's doing is the same as what Peter did. Alex wants this interview to end smoothly, so he's denying Jesus by allowing the possibility that God doesn't talk to him and tell him the time. Maybe it's the Watchers.

[Jordan]

Could be the Watchers.

[Dan]

Alex's religious beliefs are a fucking joke and he uses them as a weapon. If you can't see that after that, I don't know what else you need.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I mean there are. That could be done in a million different. That's like the Trader Joe's version of doing that. You like, you just put some other sombrero on and you're like, oh, I guess he's talking about Spanish ghosts now. Like Jesus Christ, man. Anything. Anything is available. Whomever he's talking to, you'd be surprised how their particular spirit is the one that visits him in the night. It's so crazy. It's so easy to relate to somebody who already sees your particular spirit.

[Dan]

He cries about how he knows that it's God. And the connection to God feels like there's an empowerment that he's known his whole life. Except for that time that he worshiped the devil. And that's how he knows that the devil's power is actually weaker than God's power.

[Jordan]

Makes sense.

[Dan]

But now maybe it's the watchers and they're saying we listen to us. This is fucking garbage.

[Jordan]

I like the watchers. I'm always a fan of the watchers.

[Dan]

Who watches the watchers?

[Jordan]

I don't know.

[Dan]

Who's watching the detectives.

[Jordan]

What are you guys up to? Hey, Watchers. Watchers. Are you doing?

[Dan]

They're watching the clock.

[Jordan]

Go.

[Dan]

They need to tell us.

[Jordan]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Go do something else. Don't be watching me. Don't be watching me. That's creepy.

[Dan]

Yeah. Ah, it's voyeuristic.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's in the name.

[Jordan]

Come on, man.

[Dan]

It's in the job description.

[Jordan]

Come on.

[Dan]

So Alex denied Christ, but at least he didn't do it twice.

[Alex Jones]

The reason I raised that, I'm on record with this 127, you know, stuff like that. And it's just like you have the knowledge, you have this feeling. It's like it's not you. You're like told you should do this. So I can't poo poo somebody like that. But I've looked at the math. You can do the different math being on the AI equation and look at it. But it's one out of multi billions to predict that in April of 2026, 14 years before there'll be Israel and Iran in a missile war. Wasn't even going on. That wasn't even the issue then. Then to predict, predict that it would be followed by orbs. And all of this suddenly showing up. You had those two things together and it's just. It's exponential.

[Jordan]

Whoa.

[Alex Jones]

So what do you know about this guy? You do? Because I don't want to. I mean this is like one out of a multi billion to be able to predict that. What the hell is that?

[Dan]

Alex has now denied Jesus twice. And the cock has not crowed.

[Jordan]

I was going to say we got one more to go, my man.

[Dan]

Yeah. He's asking what the odds are about this guy's prediction and then just making up a bunch of numbers. But I think we need to examine this a little closer. Closer. There aren't a ton of orbs popping up, so we could remove that from the accuracy of this guy's prediction.

[Jordan]

Feels like that was assumed in a way that I did not expect.

[Dan]

That's something Alex is pretending is happening to make this sound more exciting.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Second, is Alex trying to pretend that Iran and Israel didn't have any problems back in 2012.

[Jordan]

Haven't seen him fight before.

[Dan]

Someone who's making a vague future prediction wouldn't be pulling this kind of thing out of thin air. Saying that Iran and Israel might shoot missiles at each other isn't a bold prediction. And unless something major is happening right now while we're recording this episode, orbs haven't shown up out of the ocean to stop war.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Also, I want to play you a little clip of the video Alex just played on his show, which is a meme edit of an interview that Bledsoe did on someone else's podcast.

[Jordan]

So what's gonna happen? I don't know, but I think it's possible that's the. That's the return of.

[Alex Jones]

Of Christ.

[Dark Journalist]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is fucking insanity.

[Jordan]

Wait.

[Dan]

Alex is hanging out with his friend, dark journalist, doing blatantly sponsored content that includes him having to lend credibility to a lunatic who thinks orbs are coming out of the ocean on Easter to accompany the return of Jesus. And in order to navigate the interview, Alex has to pretend that it might not be God who sends him on missions if he tells one more story about this magical power that he has without attributing them to God. God, Alex might around and end up the first Pope of the new Christianity that he's trying.

[Jordan]

He will be the rock of the church. Yes. That is. That is how this turns out.

[Dan]

This is crazy.

[Jordan]

If you deny him three times. I think the Bible got that one backwards. That's how you become the rock of the church. You got to deny him three times right before a crows, though.

[Dan]

Holy. No, man did not expect this.

[Jordan]

What are you up to, buddy? I think it might be the watchers. I. Okay, here's okay. Any insufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from this sleight of hand bullshit. That's what. That's my math on CD ROMs.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So I think that Alex is denied Christ twice.

[Jordan]

Twice.

[Dan]

Thankfully, he hasn't done it three times.

[Jordan]

Are you. You sure?

[Dark Journalist]

You know, in Bledsoe's case, he had an actual encounter in North Carolina and went through a number of things, came out and talked about, you know, these different things that had happened to him. Then later, you know, it was very interesting because a number after his encounter, a number of intelligence people like Jim Semivan.

[Alex Jones]

You're talking about an alien encounter. Alien encounter, yeah, they did.

[Dark Journalist]

And they came in, you know, he was the top CIA director. They went and visited, visited him, spent time with him, and were like, we're gonna get you a movie deal. And all this weirdness. So it's an attempt to distort what was actually his actual experience there. That's the way that I would look at it. He was somebody who was an abductee. And then there's this layer of something that's been put on there.

[Alex Jones]

Well, what do you think is telling me stuff that comes true?

[Dark Journalist]

Oh, no, there's no question. If you want to go into the psychic activity, we have it in spades in humanity. It is lying. And it is part of what the

[Alex Jones]

Mystery Club, Princeton, and all of them just came out with huge studies. They were measuring esp.

[Dark Journalist]

Now, no, there's no question about it. They've been doing that since J.B. ryan in the 1940s. If you go back and look at it, and just the fact that we've had this long history, long track record, people like Rudolf Steiner, Edgar Cayce, they were coming from a psychic place. And the psychic aspect is a gift to humanity. It's not something that falls under any particular category. It's something that we all have. It's just.

[Alex Jones]

It's the next level of empathy.

[Dan]

Alex does not need to ask Dark Journalist why he knows the future. Alex already knows this perfectly well and has expressed it with certainty on this show a bunch of times. If Dark Journalist actually listened to Alex's dumb show, he should be really confused by the way Alex is handling this interview. Because this isn't a question.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

It's God.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

It's offensive to God for Alex to ask some dude, why am I like this? Is it normal for humans to have magic power? And then the nerve on Alex to say that his psychic powers are the next level of empathy instead of just telling this weirdo that he loves Jesus. I'm not religious at all, but I'm deeply offended by this.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I know.

[Dan]

On God's behalf and everyone associated.

[Jordan]

It is wild. It is wild to hear him denied in this way. In direct, I guess, defiance to the things that he told you to do in that book that you care so much about.

[Dan]

And it's Easter when we're recording this.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Like, we still have a couple hours till orbs could show up.

[Jordan]

Orbs. God damn.

[Dan]

We got to put a clock on orbs.

[Jordan]

So. So now we're. Oh, man. So if. If once you establish that somebody can control time and space. Right. Then. Now this becomes a function of what they. So they're controlling of time and space. They should know. Leads to Alex lying to this weirdo about the watch.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think this is low stakes for the globalist. I don't think they give a shit what he's talking about with dark journalists.

[Jordan]

I think they should probably let this one go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

I think this is funnier to them maybe than worrisome.

[Jordan]

I mean, I think I could be convinced there are worse timelines, but I know there are better timelines.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think that this is such an interesting glimpse into, like, this is fucking Project Camelot shit.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Straight up.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

But it's Alex and him trying to incorporate his lore and his God stuff.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Into this package with a guy who's not hung up on God.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He's not. Like, dark journalist isn't coming in and saying, like, we all must bow before the Lord God who is behind the demons. Everyone thinks they're aliens, but they're actually demons who attack Tucker Carlson in his sleep.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

He's not saying that. And there's a part of me that feels like Alex is trying to, like, see if he can hold on to some of his mythology in an. In a atheist, agnostic space.

[Jordan]

Or at least, like, have it be a boiling frog kind of situation. At least he can. He can hang on to it over time and then lose it without having to drop it.

[Dan]

Yeah. Or pivot it, you know, like, completely transform it into just a. Like, this is a secular superpower that I have that doesn't come from God. It's just something that all humans have.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. I think whenever you hear it through Alex, it definitely makes it easier for me to be like, ah, she doesn't believe any of that shit. She's just making this. It's all from. It's all money for Carrie. I never should have said, hi, Carrie in the first place. Yeah.

[Dan]

Maybe craven, maybe. Maybe not. But you can definitely tell that Alex does.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is such shit.

[Jordan]

If and if she is sincere about it, she should be going out after Alex. He's fucking on her space, man.

[Dan]

I haven't watched her show in a considerable amount of time, so maybe she is. I don't know. I can't say whatever I want to see Them fight. Sure, yeah, yeah. Remember when they had the celebrity boxing?

[Jordan]

I do.

[Dan]

This would be like that, but take the celebrity out.

[Jordan]

Just turn into weirdos.

[Dan]

So we have one last clip and I think it's really funny because Alex has speculated that psychics conspired against him and caused his legal charge troubles. He's denied Christ three times. And listen to the. As this clip plays out. And keep in your mind, this is so obviously brokered.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

This could not be more obviously. The way he read Bledsoe was like, Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I think it's so transparent here at the end.

[Dark Journalist]

If you go all the way back. I'm gonna take this right into Mesmer just for a second. If you go back to his experiments, what he was doing was communicating with the unconscious of the people involved. And in some of the cases he was dealing with peasants. And he could telepathically communicate with him and have them do incredible scientific equations even though they were illiterate peasants. Well, that's a whole different communication, human to human intuition, et cetera. And when you look at people like Edgar Cayce, they're the living embodiment of that. And what did they have to say? They said, this is the era where we're going to rediscover our own Atlantean path. And by the way, when you get into that, you're going to find it was a high tech past. And the whole thing about UFOs and high tech and all that. We've been through the whole cycle before, including destroying the Earth according to Casey, with the Two Eye Stone and the whole crystal power grid that we had in that era. So we're kind of reimagining, redeveloping coming back into this. And when I saw that incredible thing with Melania Trump and the Plato robot the other day, all I could think about was Cayce and the automatons.

[Alex Jones]

That's right.

[Dark Journalist]

And you know, the Atlanteans, according to Casey, developed the automatons and they were, were first started out as cyborgs and then they rolled in the human components and the DNA and you had a human being stuck and trapped inside, which.

[Alex Jones]

Then again, Metropolis and Fritz Lang, they just keep telling you, there's no question about it.

[Dark Journalist]

And look at the amount of occult signatures in Fritz Lang's movie.

[Alex Jones]

Boy, when they merge the woman with a machine. A giant pentagram.

[Dark Journalist]

Yeah, Exactly. That's in 1928. You know, it's a silent movie after. No, the, the occult aspect and the whole kind of grimoire of the Whole thing, we have to be aware of what we're dealing with. And it goes far beyond the geopolitics. You have to go deeper. You have to look at it. You have to see the Atlantean background that's going on. But when you're.

[Alex Jones]

Well, let's do this in closing, as burmas isn't waiting 20 minutes because we started late and I apologize, both of you. No disrespect. Let's hit your exhibits real quick. The finx.

[Jordan]

The finks.

[Alex Jones]

Exhibit 2. And then you gotta come back.

[Jordan]

The finx.

[Alex Jones]

And of course, this incredible thing here. Exhibit three.

[Jordan]

Three.

[Alex Jones]

And then this final exhibit, this plate they dug up.

[Dan]

This incredible thing, Exhibit three.

[Jordan]

This. That was. That was the way to dismount. That was. That renders everything said up to this point disappointing and meaningless. And I have insulted you maybe the most I possibly could.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

This wonderful looking thing over here.

[Dan]

Oh, this plate they dug up. Great. Let's rush through this. Jason Burmas rented out the time and running over.

[Jordan]

Absolutely, absolutely. Listen, we gotta turn around the tables, buddy. We gotta turn around the tables.

[Dan]

Yeah. There was a feeling that Alex is obligated to cover these exhibits in some ways. Like they have an agreement, has to

[Jordan]

hit the exact exhibits.

[Alex Jones]

Mm.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Huh.

[Dan]

So Burmes comes in, they talk about AI, and then Alex is. He's not committed. He leaves.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

These guys are just renting out Alex to pretend to be interested in whatever dumb shit they saw on Twitter.

[Alex Jones]

Yep.

[Dan]

That's what Alex's career has become. Unless orbs are coming out of the ocean right now, in which case we will look so stupid.

[Jordan]

But I accept that. I am willing to eat this one.

[Alex Jones]

Yep. Yep.

[Dan]

So I think there's. There's just something. So this is so serious. If you take it serious. Which is to say, like, time travel is real. Elon Musk controls time and space.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

He's been using Alex as a conduit for disclosure. Naturally, Alex clearly is worshiping the devil and is going to hell and needs to repent.

[Jordan]

And all that is not including that we are being visited by interstellar beings at all times.

[Dan]

Right, left and right, or observer.

[Jordan]

Just explosions, just lights, just. All of that.

[Dan]

All of this is in the context of sponsored content with a dum dum that Alex is doing so he doesn't have to talk about Trump.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

That's pretty insane.

[Jordan]

What's that? What's the. It was a. What's the thing where you could get celebrity to, like, leave a birthday message? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's renting him out like a giant cameo. That's what this is. This is like a. This is like a play place hour.

[Dan]

And. And when Alex was gone for that stretch where he may or may not have been drying out. Yeah. You know how I described it as like a shotgun mic kind of thing where hosts would cycle through. I think they might kind of be experimenting with seeing if, like, they even need him.

[Jordan]

Do we need him to be here? Yeah.

[Dan]

Does he need to do his show? Can we have him be a prop, part of the furniture? Like I would imagine Bigley's trying to figure out, like, what's our investment in this guy?

[Jordan]

Right. Well, I mean. I mean, you know Jim Baker. Right. He's practically dead.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So what happens on his show now, I assume is like he sits there like the Crypt Keeper and giggles whenever somebody tells an ironic story.

[Dan]

I think his children mostly host it.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And. And he's not on it like all the time.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

So it's kind of like a. He'll. He'll come around sometime. But yeah, he. I watched an episode and I wasn't comfortable with making fun of him.

[Jordan]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Dan]

So. Yeah.

[Jordan]

But they're not letting him go. He's a squeeze in that. They're squeezing that rock for every bit of blood that they can get.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I think. I think that Alex may have a similar destiny within his own. Yeah. Within his own company. And one of the things I think is a telltale sign of that is there's a interview coming up that was with Joe Kent, who just recently quit in protest from the administration because he says that Trump is doing the bidding of Israel. Sure. And this is a git in some sense of an interview.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Cuz he's real and he dropped out.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And what he's saying is a good way to jump off the train.

[Dan]

And he's one of like, Tucker's buddies who Tucker went to bat for, which is one of the reasons that. That it was a point of division between him and like, Nick Fuentes and those more overt Nazi types is that they felt that Joe Kent was not hardcore enough.

[Jordan]

Now it's. Now it's known.

[Dan]

No, they still don't think he's hardcore enough.

[Jordan]

Amazing.

[Dan]

But the thing that I'm saying is that this interview is kind of a deal. Like, it's kind of like, okay, you got a relevant guy.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

And Harrison Smith is doing it, not Alex.

[Alex Jones]

Wow.

[Dan]

And I think that speaks volumes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Alex wouldn't let someone else who works for him do the interview if he could.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

Unless he's kind of somewhat checked out.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So yeah, that does seem tough because it's almost. I mean, maybe the easiest thing to bury in the world is a Harrison Smith interview.

[Dark Journalist]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I think Harrison Smith might do a better job. Honestly.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But Alex would never give up that kind of. Like there's going to be headlines about me.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, crazy. Crazy. Why would you. Why would. I wouldn't talk to Harrison Smith. If I was him, I'd be like, oh no, I'm not doing jv. You think I'm jv? Shit.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

The fuck out of here.

[Dan]

You think that I. I'm going to promote your interview with Joe.

[Jordan]

You.

[Dan]

What do you, what do you think, man?

[Jordan]

Crazy.

[Dan]

You going solo?

[Jordan]

I'm going to go on. I'm. I'm going to go talk to Tucker, but before that I'm going to talk to Harrison Smith. Is that what you're telling me? Great. Cool. Cool.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's much like when the Rock came out with Black Adam.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The balance of power at Infowars is shifting.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So I think that Alex needs to get right with God and I think he's sucks. But at least this UFO shit was kind of funny.

[Jordan]

It was fun. It was fun.

[Dan]

So we'll see if this is the direction things keep going in as Alex loses more interest in supporting Trump.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But until we find out more, we have a website and we do.

[Jordan]

It's knowledge Fight dot com.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Alex Jones]

We'll be back.

[Dan]

But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the Sex Robots.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks. Watching for. For holding.

[Jordan]

Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.

[Dark Journalist]

I'm a huge fan.

[Jordan]

I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.