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Settings. Is packaging something for you to look better or exaggerated than the real substance it is? Branding is amplifying the substance so that you can see the value. Because humans by our very nature have distorted systems of perception. That's the reason why you and I will drive our cars together and walk and drive by a little bush that has a rose flower in there and it doesn't have any effect. But when wifey gives it to you, it's because it's not about the product, it's about how it makes you feel. So because we have broken perceptive systems, we use branding to draw your attention, to say to you, look at this, there's value here. It's not amplifying nothing. And that's what we see a lot. A lot of people are packaging fake it till you make it. We'll have another conversation about that. There are places where you will not be able to fake it. People can tell. Bs. Can anybody BS you? No, sir. One thing I've loved about my relationship with you, you look at people and you diagnose them so people can tell. So branding is. Here are real skills, experiences and giftings that I have. Here are real solutions that have come from these things. Here are the ways it can help you. If you are going through these problems, I am the guy to talk to. Simple branding 101. So when you're putting yourself in front of a potential audience, what you're saying is, I've been there, done that. Here is proof, here is results come for the same. Here's the reason why whenever people are attracted to you for your brand and they do not get the results you presented, you are fraud.
B
Even with businesses. This has happened several times.
Recently.
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Right.
B
So my wife just showed me. Oh, Derek, you know there's a new restaurant in town. Yes. You know, let's try and visit the restaurant. And then I looked at it and I said, I've seen this restaurant. It doesn't look the way it looks on the phone.
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That's packaging.
B
I'm sorry, but if you went there today, you wouldn't be happy with.
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It's called advertisement under false pretense. It's fraud.
B
Look, there was a place we went somewhere in Volta region with the family, right? And you know, we paid hard dollar for it. Very expensive place at night. It's probably one of the most disappointing trips we've ever done.
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Yes, sir. And we do that a lot and call it branding, we call it packaging, we call it fake it till you make it. No, sir. Substance first, then amplification. Because if you drop the people in, what are you going to give them? So that's how you go about it. So if you're looking at building A around public speaking, it means that the first thing you need to ask yourself, if I want to be a public speaker, the first question is, what do I want to speak about? When you answer that question.
B
Right. And that could be AI, The AI systems.
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Yep.
B
I just connected.
A
Yes, sir. Because knowledge is merchandizable. I'm creating a word. Knowledge is a commodity. And in a day and age of ubiquitous access to knowledge, people will kill and pay for structured data.
B
And that AI cannot kill.
A
No, sir. Because AI is going to make sure there is an overwhelming influx of too much information. So the guy that synthesizes it, takes it together and brings it to you in a way that's very easy for you to consume and.
B
But interestingly. Right, so I was at the airport again with my wife and then I showed her a video.
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Yes.
B
That one music producer I know, you know, has worked on.
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Yes.
B
It looks so real.
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Yes.
B
Right. The beat was AI produced, The writing was the music video was AI produced.
A
Right. Right.
B
But how do we tell the difference between you that have built a personal.
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Brand and somebody who's doing somebody who's.
B
Just doing it using AI systems?
A
So I don't know if you've realized, but there's a whole industry that is coming up like the antivirus industry back in the day, and it is anti AI or AI detection. Okay. It's a whole industry now. It's actually another place you can make money. When somebody releases a sex tape of Derek, which firm or business is the one that can take that video and say it's based on our proprietary technology? We can tell that this is AI so that in a court case, think about it, we have video cloning systems that can have our president saying anything we want him to say by morning. Yep. Who's the one who diagnosed. Yes, sir.
B
They did that to Ibrahim.
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Yes, sir. Who's going to diagnose that? So, yeah. So what's going to eventually happen is this adjacent industry is going to come up where we would use anti AI or AI detection models to say, hey guys, I'm looking for a content producer. I don't want AI. It needs to be human. It needs to be emotionally charged. So I want proper human produced content. If you can't apply here, it doesn't mean that the AI guys are not going to eat. But what is going to happen is that now humanly charged stuff would Be premium. Premium would be how long did it take you? How much emotion went into this? How much human touch went into this? You know, today there is a robotic cook from my presentations nine years ago who was called Molly. At the time. Molly could cook 2,000 meals. I don't want to know what he can cook now. But guess what will happen? We would have that bourgeois concept restaurant where we have that Robocop there. And then one day you and yfe will say, you know what is enough?
And that will be premier so the two can coexist. That's why I say, as a futurist, don't be so future minded that you are present, insignificant. We extrapolate from the past to learn today so that we can project into tomorrow. That's it.
B
Let me stop you here for a minute. We are on a journey of changing the minds and the lives of people. So if you haven't subscribed and become part of the family, please hit the subscribe button and turn on the notification. Thank you. Now, let's carry on with the conversation. That's powerful, man.
A
Yeah, sure.
B
Now I want you to step on it a bit.
A
Yes.
B
You've spoken a little bit about, you know, blending communication, you know, public speaking and building a brand out of that. But I, I just really want you to step on it in terms of, wow, you know, you are, you are building a brand that's genuine, that is not a fake type of brand. I definitely do still think that there should still be an element of technology.
A
Yes, always, right? Yes.
B
An element of technology that can help you make your life much easier in the brand that you're building.
A
In fact, it took me from when I said, let me build a brand to when I felt like I had been recognized. About seven years. You don't need to wait that long. When I started building my brand, I only had Facebook. Twitter didn't exist. Instagram didn't exist. TikTok didn't exist, Snapchat didn't exist. AI didn't exist. I used to search on Yahoo.com with Bing as a search engine. Right. So how do you build a brand today with all the tech that's available to you? Leave the mundane stuff to tech. Do the human specific stuff.
B
All right, Elaborate. What aspect of that would be the mundane?
A
You were having this conversation with me before you had this conversation where you did a human thing. You sat with me, you checked on me, you checked on my family. We had a conversation briefly that prepped us into this. Do those stuff. Let AI do the research. Let AI compile a list of the next 20 people you could interview based on this and that and that metric. Let AI be the one that is thinking about how you caption and the hashtags to use that are the most efficient. Don't worry yourself about anything that has to do with data sampling, data analysis. Leave all of those mundane stuff, come down to the purely human stuff. Things based on ethics, things based on emotion, things based on human to human connection. Do that part, let AI do all of the rest. At the end of the day, you have efficiency in that technology is a tool aiding you to build and you have authenticity in that at the end product. I have the human touch in there.
B
My team and I sat down, you know, the guy that leads my AI content is Sylvester, right?
A
Yes.
B
So we sat down and said, wanna give ourselves a target.
A
Right.
B
By the end of the year, we wanna move, you know, Derek abiati brand to 100k.
A
Right? Right.
B
By the end of the year. That was the plan.
A
Yes. You hit that already, haven't you?
B
Well, yeah. So on Instagram, right before that, I think I was in about, about 20k or something. That's where we started. And then we started, you know, planning the content, doing everything and Sylvester went to work. He churned out about, about 20 content.
Before we knew it, we still, we're not even at the end of the year.
A
Right.
B
And I think we are on about 136,000.
A
Welcome to the game. Do you know how much time would have taken Sylvester to wait for inspiration that sparks creativity, for him to come up with those content ideas? I have given work to graphic designers and for two weeks they had a creative block and couldn't design anything.
B
And today you, you showed me some images yesterday. It looked, it looked amazing.
A
It's me. It's me. I took one picture that a camera has taken and gave it to an efficient system to replicate. It's me. Yes, sir.
B
You have set yourself up in the whole public speaking space.
A
Yes.
B
Now you train a lot of people to be able to do that.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, just straight up, that's public speaking in Ghana.
A
Make money because of GRE and private reasons. I would have shown you receipts easily, but you're my brother, so I'll show you receipts when we're done. In fact, maybe I'll show you one receipt. Just my upcoming most recent public speaking gig. Here is the signed document. I want you to see how much I'm being paid for this. This is before flying and any of those things. Let me show you the document. That is signed real quick. The answer to your question is yes, it does.
B
Purely because you're training a lot of people.
A
Yes.
B
In this space.
A
Absolutely right. But that's not the only place where I make the money. Here you. There you have it. Yep. Yes, sir. That's in USD.
B
Yep.
A
By the way.
B
Yep.
A
So public speaking is not in a vacuum. People think. And again, let me. Let me clarify this. As a. As a technician, as a proper technician and one of the pioneering voices in the space, people confuse our industry a lot.
B
Okay?
A
We're not all motivational speakers. Motivation and motivational and inspirational speakers are a subset of the entire industry. We have business speakers, people who, either by practice or by knowledge, speak business and help businesses grow. Because businesses need one thing. They need to update their stuff. So there are public speakers in that domain who come in there and they present to you global best practices, trends, insights on what is happening and how you can catch up. Those are not motivational speakers. We have technology speakers. These are the guys that are helping you keep a pause on what's happening in tech. That's the type of person I am. I do innovation consultancy, I do futurism, connected minds, podcast.
Host: Derrick Abaitey
Release Date: December 8, 2025
This episode delves into the evolving landscape of brand building in the era of AI, examining the distinctions between genuine branding and mere “packaging,” and exploring how technology can streamline the branding process without sacrificing authenticity. Through personal anecdotes and in-depth discussion, Derrick Abaitey and his guest break down the merging roles of AI and human creativity, laying out practical strategies for entrepreneurs, content creators, and anyone looking to grow a meaningful personal or business brand.
In this engaging episode, Derrick Abaitey and his guest break down the myths and realities of brand building in the digital age, arguing compellingly for a strategy that merges AI efficiency with irreplaceably human traits. Listeners walk away with actionable advice on using AI to handle repetitive tasks while investing their energy in authentic, emotionally resonant work—the real key to building a sustainable, trusted brand.