Konnected Minds Podcast: Mindset Before Money – Why Your Mental Blueprint Determines Your Business Success
Host: Derrick Abaitey
Date: November 8, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode centers on the crucial role mindset plays in determining business success, arguing that mental preparation is often more vital than financial resources. Host Derrick Abaitey is joined by Kennedy and an unidentified business owner for a candid roundtable. Their conversation dives deep into the psychological and practical barriers to entrepreneurship, the realities of starting versus scaling, and the significance of developing the right mental “blueprint” for lasting success.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Survival Business vs. Dream Business
[00:00 – 01:13]
- Kennedy outlines that for young or aspiring entrepreneurs, the primary goal should be “getting cash” through a survival business—the kind that will help them meet immediate needs—before pursing a dream venture.
- "Most people want to start off with their dream business. But first of all, you don't need to necessarily start with your dream business. You need to start with a survival business, something that will make you survive. Then you move on to your dream business."
— Kennedy [00:44]
- "Most people want to start off with their dream business. But first of all, you don't need to necessarily start with your dream business. You need to start with a survival business, something that will make you survive. Then you move on to your dream business."
- Survival businesses help build capital and business experience, serving as launching pads for more ambitious and passion-driven enterprises later on.
2. Starting vs. Scaling – Which Is More Challenging?
[01:53 – 04:25]
- The Unidentified Business Owner contends that scaling is the harder phase, highlighting the difficulty in hiring and replicating oneself within the business, especially for micromanagers.
- "Scaling is really hard because it's very difficult to replicate yourself. Hiring is really hard. Having people to run your business the way you do it is really hard if you're a micromanager."
— Unidentified Business Owner [02:10] - Shared a personal incident: both main staff were absent and she had to scramble to keep the shop running.
- "Scaling is really hard because it's very difficult to replicate yourself. Hiring is really hard. Having people to run your business the way you do it is really hard if you're a micromanager."
- Kennedy acknowledges the challenges of scaling but asserts that starting a business is underappreciated in its difficulty, especially given the psychological barriers (risk aversion, stress, initial sacrifices, etc.).
- "Starting is also very hard. Most people don't think about hard...There are psychological barriers...Sometimes there are times where I've gone in my business without paying myself. I have to pay other people. And that's what being entrepreneur is."
— Kennedy [03:33]
- "Starting is also very hard. Most people don't think about hard...There are psychological barriers...Sometimes there are times where I've gone in my business without paying myself. I have to pay other people. And that's what being entrepreneur is."
- Both agree: effective self-evaluation is critical before taking the entrepreneurial leap.
3. Mindset or Money: The Bigger Barrier?
[04:25 – 08:14]
- Kennedy advocates emphatically for mindset as the foundational ingredient, referencing Secrets of the Millionaire Mind.
- "Anybody can get money. Anybody at all can get money. But mindset is what maintains it. Mindset is what's going to get it."
— Kennedy [04:35]
- "Anybody can get money. Anybody at all can get money. But mindset is what maintains it. Mindset is what's going to get it."
- Mindset’s complexity is likened to a “set” (as in mathematics)—not a single idea, but a collection of beliefs and habits shaped by upbringing, society, and personal experience.
- "People think about mindset, they think about one way of thinking. It's not just one, there's a collection of different things because there's a set."
— Kennedy [05:06]
- "People think about mindset, they think about one way of thinking. It's not just one, there's a collection of different things because there's a set."
- Unidentified Business Owner counters by identifying money as a persistent, real-world obstacle, especially in ventures with immediate capital needs.
- "Money has been one of my biggest challenges in business. Because you have the ideas, you have the mindset ready, but you don't have the money to execute. That is really painful as a business owner."
— Unidentified Business Owner [06:23]
- "Money has been one of my biggest challenges in business. Because you have the ideas, you have the mindset ready, but you don't have the money to execute. That is really painful as a business owner."
- She concedes, however, that financial intelligence (a component of mindset) determines whether sudden wealth translates into lasting prosperity.
4. Cause & Effect: Why Mindset Precedes Money
[07:21 – 08:58]
- Kennedy deepens the argument: money is an outcome, not the cause, and any lasting financial result begins with mental transformation.
- "You need to first of all attack the mindset before. Because money is a result. Money is not the cause. It's like it's an effect, not the cause."
— Kennedy [07:44] - Uses Latin etymology (causa/effectus) to explain the law of cause and effect.
- "The cause of everything is...It begins with a mindset. Mindset is not the only thing, but mindset is always going to precede the effect."
— Kennedy [08:16]
- "You need to first of all attack the mindset before. Because money is a result. Money is not the cause. It's like it's an effect, not the cause."
- Poor mindsets often lead to repeated business failures, even when initial funding is available.
5. One Size Fits All vs. Custom Approach in Business
[08:58 – 09:33]
- On product/market strategy, Kennedy champions a custom, customer-centric approach for new ventures.
- "Most people are just thinking of everybody all at once. But I believe that you need to start with somebody that you are dealing with...tailoring your product for a particular group of people. I feel that's how you need to start."
— Kennedy [09:18]
- "Most people are just thinking of everybody all at once. But I believe that you need to start with somebody that you are dealing with...tailoring your product for a particular group of people. I feel that's how you need to start."
- The emphasis is on focusing on a specific customer segment and building from there, rather than trying to serve everyone at once.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Kennedy [04:35]:
"Anybody can get money. Anybody at all can get money. But mindset is what maintains it. Mindset is what's going to get it." - Unidentified Business Owner [06:23]:
"Money has been one of my biggest challenges in business. Because you have the ideas, you have the mindset ready, but you don't have the money to execute. That is really painful as a business owner." - Kennedy [07:44]:
"Because money is a result. Money is not the cause. It's like it's an effect, not the cause." - Kennedy [09:18]:
"I believe that you need to start with somebody that you are dealing with... tailoring your product for a particular group of people. I feel that's how you need to start."
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:00 – Survival business vs. dream business (Kennedy)
- 01:53 – Starting vs. scaling: which is harder? (Panel)
- 04:25 – Mindset or money—what holds back businesses more? (Kennedy, Business Owner)
- 07:21 – The law of cause (mindset) and effect (money); why mindset must change first (Kennedy)
- 08:58 – One-size-fits-all vs. custom approaches in early business (Kennedy)
Summary Takeaway
The episode’s core message is clear: while access to money is essential, the mindset with which entrepreneurs approach business challenges fundamentally determines both initial survival and long-term success. Both panelists agree that self-awareness, resilience, and mental adaptability lay the foundation for sustainable achievement, and that new business owners are best served by starting small, focusing their energy, and intentionally cultivating their “mental blueprint” before chasing ambitious financial goals.
