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Wayfair Every style, Every home. I did a post some time back on my Facebook and I asked this question, people in the diaspora, how much are people paid for state pension a month? And the answers were 800, 600, a thousand.
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It's never enough.
B
That's not enough. Again, these are the reasons why I am so crazy about teaching people about money. Because our good days are very short. You know, do content creators paste it into their own accounts?
C
Yeah, well, I do, I do and I do for the people that work with me.
B
And you think it is important that creators do that?
C
For me, I think I started doing it not because immediately it was important. I saw the importance, but I saw it more in terms of the statutory requirement.
B
You are such an honest man.
C
I am.
B
That is a true statement.
C
Yes. So, so that's, that was an initial thing that got me to say, let's do it.
B
So like me, right when I'm having my shower and today I was thinking about it, I was crazy because yesterday I think I bathed like three times and then because, you know, I was doing exercise and then I went to see sights and stuff and then I was just telling myself today when I was on my side, maybe I need to shower like five times a day because anytime I'm in the shower I can do things. So these are some of the things I think about that say, all of a sudden can't work anymore. Okay. There are insurances, there are things we can put in place, but I mean, these are the honest conversations that creators need to have, need to have. And hopefully there's somebody watching us and this is going to make them start thinking.
C
But I think also sometimes the other options say maybe investment and all of those things don't really come to our minds.
B
Why?
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I don't know why, but I feel sometimes you have to have a certain mindset to want to go that path and we don't get it early. And so the fundamentals are perhaps missing but again, like I said, if at a very early stage, all of these things are taught, then it becomes a part of us. I think this week I was talking about on something about crypto. And whenever I hear those things, I'm like, it seems far off. It feels like it's a different set of group of people and that's the result for everyone. But I don't know personally, that's me. When it comes to investment trading and all of us, it looks like I have to have a certain thinking mindset to understand and do it well. And then sometimes I feel like I'm not ready. I see, but you were ready at what point?
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The times when I used to speak with you, the whole music times. I was doing a lot of side hustles. I used to order things from China. I was about 17 years when I was doing that to sell to my mates. Our first music video for Vibe Squad. I think I was about 17 and a half or 18. I paid for another member because he was working for one of my websites and he was a legal person for the site. I've always thought about money as the more you have, the easier your life become and the money must grow. With my age, you see what I'm trying. That's how I've always thought about it. So, you know, in my reading as well, you know, I read some really incredible books, some books that I don't really talk about because. And they. They enlighten me and the people I spend time with. You know, I have a senior man in Ghana here, you know, General Badema, and he lives somewhere in Villagio. When I hit 30, I started spending a lot of time with him and some of the things he would say. And when I go to see him, even the chair he sits on, he used to sit on when he was my age. Now, at 70, the chair he's sitting on is different because he would tell me, well, you know, as you grow, the height difference, you don't want to bend down too much. Now imagine I'm 70 and I don't have money to even upgrade my chair. Stop thinking about these things.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, and he says that, you know, as you grow, that's the time you need to even eat better. If you don't have the money, how do you eat better? So I think a lot about this stuff. And so it's become almost like second nature, you know, to me. But let me, let me bust your brain with this one. There was a content creator I spoke with. He used to make in the Beginning of the whole YouTube video, he used to make about $40,000 a month. Today he has nothing. $40,000 a month. And that dude probably made it consistently for about eight months. Because you know what the concept is senior, next month is going to come.
C
Yeah.
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So it becomes the same, the same mentality of paycheck to paycheck.
C
Yeah. Even though, even though you're doing your own thing, you're still relying on it's gonna come.
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So the platforms are paying people, but that payment is becoming a paycheck payment. It's not being translated into entrepreneurship properly, which is what. You know, I think a lot of young people need to understand it's a real serious conversation because I bet you anything otherwise we might see the same thing that's happening in the music industry, in the content industry.
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Yeah. Especially when a lot of us is driven by trend. When the trends fall out, then what? Then what?
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Yesterday, when the crazy things were happening, guess what happened? What? Maya called me, he called me and said, they said, indomindo, mijale, let's start an indomie joint.
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That's it.
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Yeah. And I said, look, if you know someone, call them. They can run it. Let's put it together. You know, so these are some of
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the things every time.
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Yeah, yeah. And I jump on it. But I must say this. I appreciate you. I've got a lot of respect for you. So thank you so much for coming. I. I was hoping this conversation will happen long time ago when my studio was at the other place.
C
I mean, we tried to make it happen. Right. I think we just didn't have. But I say I came to enjoy the. The new studio, the new ish. Really, really lovely place.
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Thank you.
C
Thank you.
B
So what's the best advice you have ever received?
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Best advice, unfortunately, like you, that you've work with a lot of people. You work. I am very sort of closeted. I am very antisocial and I hardly really engage with people. And so I don't tend to have a lot of conversations and get the opportunity to have advice. Strangely, everything I have done has been just doing my thing. And I guess that's why I keep saying I bring up the luck and
B
I just wrote it down. Luck and chance. You are the reason I've started believing in it now.
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Because yes, it's. It's very true. I. In terms of platform to platform, I hardly will even look at a similar platform to mine and say I want to do this.
B
I see.
C
I just pretty much. It comes to mind you do you get lucky? It Becomes lucky guy. Yeah. So yeah. But I think general advice in life that perhaps is you should, when an opportunity comes your way, you should grab it and grab it, explore it, make it work for you. It might even be a case for the, for somebody to be the next to enjoy such another opportunity because they saw you do it well and they think somebody else can do it. So for me, it's my. Any opportunity that comes and that's what I do because I don't. I've never had a marketing arm to my business. I sit there, I get emails, I get calls. This is what you wanted to do. Can you do it? So I feel yeah.
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Luck. Luck and chance. Yo, Luck and chance. I don't know how he did it, but I think it came with his
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height, you know, small height advantage, you
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know, but also something else. Maybe I should tell you this something else I learned from General. He says when as you age, if your mind is not being challenged all the time, then you lose your cognitive performance. So the way he does it is memory. Or sometimes I'll be talking to him and he will go way back into 19 something and he said I was reading. Then he will click 37 military names.
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So always looking.
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And he reads a lot.
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You know, I've always feared people anytime I was going to go into a contest, I feared if my opponent was somebody who reads a lot. I'm shaking because I can't read. I see. And yeah, I mean, and it's true. There's a lot of wisdom you gain through that. And even just keeping the brain energized,
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you know, what I'm trying to figure out, I think that may be one of the reasons why you are so boxed into the way you expect social media to be, how things to work. That could be a reason why. Because what books have done for me is it shows me another perspective, opens it up to me and then I engage and then the next book.
C
Yeah, probably that's it.
B
I've enjoyed this interview more than you have, but thank you so much.
C
It's been a pleasure.
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And I'm going to put all the details of Amiyah Deborah, the legend himself, so you can check out his page actually if, you know, he's, he's, he's on this one. We could do a collab on YouTube as well. But anyway, take care of yourself. My name is Derek Abayti. Stay connected, Connected Minds Podcast.
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Was it scary?
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Did the car have a sunroof?
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It did, actually.
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Date: June 7, 2026
In this segment, host Derrick Abaitey sits down with a fellow creator to explore the financial pitfalls that content creators face – specifically, the danger of relying solely on platform payouts and developing a “paycheck to paycheck” mindset. Through honest conversation and personal anecdotes, Derrick and his guest highlight the critical need for creators to embrace entrepreneurship, financial planning, and investment, emphasizing that true sustainability and wealth come from treating content creation as a business, not just a stream of platform money.
Platform Money ≠ Financial Security
Case Study:
Paying Yourself First
Developing an Entrepreneurial Mindset
Barriers to Investing
Power of Early Exposure
The Danger of Chasing Trends
Turning Ideas into Businesses
Seizing Opportunities
On Reading and Cognitive Growth
On Living for Today vs. Planning for Tomorrow
“Our good days are very short... These are the honest conversations creators need to have.”
– Derrick Abaitey (01:24-02:09)
On Mindset Gaps Around Investing:
“Sometimes you have to have a certain mindset to want to go that path and we don't get it early.”
– Guest (02:20)
On Opportunity:
“Any opportunity that comes... grab it, explore it, make it work for you.”
– Guest (07:34)
On Entrepreneurship Over Platform Dependency:
“Otherwise we might see the same thing that's happening in the music industry, in the content industry.”
– Derrick Abaitey (05:53)
| Time (MM:SS) | Segment | |------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:43–01:24 | State pensions and the need for financial education | | 01:07–01:24 | Why creators should pay themselves deliberately | | 02:09–03:20 | Why investment and financial planning often feel out of reach | | 04:38–05:19 | The story of the creator who lost it all, despite high income | | 05:19–05:53 | “Platform paycheck” trap and parallels with the music industry | | 06:01–06:20 | Adapting to change – the Indomie joint idea | | 07:16–08:27 | The importance of luck, chance, and seizing opportunity | | 08:36–09:53 | On reading, lifelong learning, and keeping your mind sharp |
This episode serves as a wakeup call for creators:
Don’t let initial success or regular platform payouts breed complacency. Derrick and his guest encourage creators to treat their craft as a true business, invest in financial education, embrace long-term planning, and look beyond fleeting trends. Whether it’s starting a side business, consciously investing, or cultivating new skills, the consistent theme is clear: entrepreneurship and proactive thinking are key to stability and real wealth in the creator economy.
Stay Konnected!