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I started Ornod in 2013 and we make bike apparel. The best part of Shopify for me is our ability to run the business as essentially non technical people. We're able to admin everything on the back end, front end and sell things online easily. If Shopify were a bike accessory, I think it would actually be the bicycle. It's the thing that you do the thing on. We run the business on Shopify. Start your free trial on shopify.com that is very true.
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That is very true because.
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When you are a mentee to someone, you don't need capital and other things plaint because they can help you unlock capital even if not your own money. They can give you their property or asset as a collateral to use for funding. They can give you the connection. Just one call can lead you. There are places I go and I tell I am a mentee to so and so and he.
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He.
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The person pays a phone call him oh, I met this guy. He's right. He said he's your mentee. So yes, he doesn't have whether I'm credible or not. So this one if you don't do I'll call you. I'll call you. So someone to put his reputation there for you. You have to be at a position you should have justified beyond every reasonable doubt that you disgrace them.
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Sometimes these people too when they tell the story, the young people don't believe it.
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You see a lot of things have jammed our optimism threshold or belief threshold.
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Yep.
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Such that things that used to convince us no more convince us. What do I mean? There are people who have narrated stories that later on it turned out not to be the case. So a lot of people are trying to or they are struggling to know what who of this one is not like the first one that came. Are you getting my point? So that is how the discussions are. But you see, I'm not too much surprised how these things work. Let me tell you why in the Bible I believe in the Bible. There are some strategies I pick from the Bible. In the Bible, when Samuel was to anoint Saul, he went out to look for the Father's flock And then later on somewhere called him Saul. We're not talking about David. Saul. It was Saul that he come for his anointing. He anointed him. He said he was going to be in the camp when he met his uncle. The uncle asked him, where did you go to? He said that he was going to look for the father's flock. And what happened when you met someone? What did he tell you? When someone told him that the flock had gone back home, they have been found. Was it real? Someone told him that. But he also added that he was going to be king, which he didn't add it to his. He didn't tell that story to the uncle. So it depends on what some people are going to make of the story. You understand the scriptures that he never told him the entire story. That's what the Bible said. He didn't. He didn't tell his uncle the entire story that someone told you that he's going to be king. He only thought about the. The flocks part of it. Because perhaps it would not have been that good.
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But why? Why don't they just tell people the show me the way that those young people are expecting.
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It's not coincidental that when Africans are travel, they don't inform their families. When David told his story, what happened? When he told his story? You know David of old, the Bible. Yes. What happened when he told his story, what happened? Let's pick Joseph's story. When he told this was even his family. When he told him his story, what is coming to happen to him and how. I mean, he has been conquering the things he's doing, doing the things, the extraordinary things he's been doing that he feel that God's blessings with him. When he told him what happened, they put him in the pit. Right. And later sold him. But you know that that wasn't even the original idea. They wanted to kill him. It is his. One of his brother, I think Ruben, who said, oh no, let's not kill him. Let's put him in this pit. With this idea being that if they all go, then later he will come back and come and take him from the pit. But the original intention was to kill him. That was what the scriptures he said he wanted to kill him. So people told their story. That is what Micah chapter seven, verse five.
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Okay.
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If you go to Micah 75, he said, don't trust even the closest companion. Even he said, the woman who lies in your bosom. There's not me saying, you know, this is what I believe in. Why? Because a Lot of people have told their stories and people make nonsense of it or they can use it to attack you. That's why people say your secret is your power. You see, some people see it. Your secret is your power. You can tell you story of a story or story that people told their story stories and people mean nonsense. So sometimes they will tell the story and leave some part of it. I've. I know someone who told a story about how he's doing his pharmacy and how well it's going and told him about the next move that he's trying to do is a pharmacist with location based. He has restrictions. When he went to the person I was going for the location. You get it? So I think that unless you're not making nothing of the story, you're not rubbishing it or something. People tell their stories in books and other things. There's. There's this book that I read from my mentor, the UT story.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He told his story plainly. He said when he was about to start his company, about 19 families and friends promising that when he, when he get. He should go for the license for the savings and loans. Like that. Whatever. Savings and loans, when you go for the license, they will give him money. Who is a guru. I was with him at. At Achimota golf course. I mean I did go and we're discussing this, we're laughing because not even one person from the people after telling him, telling them. So what's the essence of even telling him the story? Not even one person help him get those one. But he told all his story. Everything is in it. It's in his book now. So people tell their story. If you want innovation of the stories, you may have to justify that when they tell you you're not going to make nonsense. And sometimes I feel that you see, you need a particular set of hardware to handle a particular set of software. Right? Some stories may be too much for you to bear. So they may not tell you or to. To. To connect the dots.
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The Bible says do not cast spells before swine. They will trample on it. In fact, they'll hurt themselves.
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Right? You see the point? So sometimes if you say oh, why is the person not giving you SPSS? Why is the person not giving you FIFA 2 20, 25, you are running Pentium 1. How does he give you. I mean tell you about how you don't have the hardware.
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So the tons of people on Twitter who are bashing some of these things. I watched 50 billion plates. I started with this. Most of Them don't have the hardware.
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Oh no. I think. Yeah, I think there's a problem with the hardware. There's a problem with their belief. We are not two ways fools.
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You believe those stories are true?
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Yeah, I believe those stories are true. Let me pick Richie's example, Richard. He had 1 million $. I think he didn't do well at E $31 million. Right. Or maybe because of the instrument he had at. Yeah. Right now I. I personally myself I said I wanted it some things I called a couple bank. That is what I want to buy. The value is let's say 200 city. I'm getting it for 100 city.
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Yeah.
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Everyone said I'll buy for you when they buy for me. If I want to even resell it right now it's. You get my point.
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So he did.
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Most of these stories they are true. Just that they may not be. They may not be the full story or some of the people is it. No, having your story is different. Knowing how to narrate it is another thing. Yes, some people know some things, but I don't know how to teach it. And it's not their fault. They are not teachers. That's fine. And sometimes some people are so they know their story so well that sometimes they can even leave when they are narrating. They will leave someone that they may not know that this. You will need this, this particular portion of the story to make sense in the full story. They didn't know you would know that. I mean so I think sometimes how they narrate the story they may not get a full time to tell you the full story. Yes, people.
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I also figured out is that sometimes even the numbers people quote in public is lower than what.
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Yeah, that's true. That's true.
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I think there was a time I was talking about how I started a pharmacy in east lagoon for 40,000. It's actually the number is more than that. It just. It just so happens that I don't know these things happen, isn't it? Say you are in an interview and then they ask you a question like we are. Your mind go very quickly to the things you can remember now and then you share it in another interview. Depending on how the questions come out, there may be similarities. But you know, you might say one or two things.
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Like example Zafaris interviewed me on my. On my story and our story some time ago. And I think when I was narrating the COVID story there are a couple of things I forgot inside because it's not a scripted interview. It's a normal conversation. So sometimes when you have this interview, then you can policy. Oh, this even happened before this one. Or this even happened because some of them are very long ago and they haven't written books about them or it's not something he's scripted. Sometimes we understate.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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We understate some of the figures and the values.
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Especially because of the environment we're in.
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Yeah, especially because.
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And we also understand that some people, the hardware is a bit different.
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Yeah. So I'm. You just don't give them more than they can chew.
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But Sammy, medical landlord.
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Yeah.
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What's the best advice you've ever received?
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The best advice I've ever received is from my mentor. I mentioned his name a lot because it's shaped how I run business. He said that you see the way mosquitoes run. Mosquitoes operate Mosquitoes in our environment, mosquitoes, they bite. They may suck your blood or they may just make noise without doing anything at all. Right. Sometimes people don't even go and kill the ones that did the biting, but just those that are doing the. The noise. Okay. They might not have bitten them. They are just doing noise. It's just the noise that is irritating. It has gotten to above the tolerable threshold. You get my point. So he may get up from the sleep or go and look for the mosquito anywhere. Comb everywhere in the room to kill the mosquito because it was making the noise will become irritated.
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Podcast: Konnected Minds Podcast with Derrick Abaitey
Episode Segment: The Right Mentor Can Unlock Capital You Never Had
Date: July 25, 2026
Host: Derrick Abaitey
Featured Speakers: Derrick Abaitey and Guests
Focus: How mentorship can enable access to capital, opportunities, and wisdom beyond financial resources; insight into the storytelling and mindset barriers facing young African entrepreneurs.
This episode dives deep into the transformative power of mentorship, particularly in entrepreneurship and wealth-building. The main thesis is that the right mentor can help you unlock far more than your own resources—sometimes even leveraging their network, reputation, and assets to open doors you couldn't access alone. The conversation explores why some success stories are misunderstood or under-communicated, and addresses the cultural skepticism facing ambitious youth in Africa. Key biblical references and real-world anecdotes bring nuance to the topic.
On Mentorship Unlocking Capital:
"Just one call can lead you. There are places I go and I tell I am a mentee to so and so and...The person pays a phone call...He doesn't have whether I'm credible or not. So this one if you don't do, I'll call you. Someone to put his reputation there for you." — [00:58] (Speaker B)
On Why Stories Are Withheld:
"People tell their stories in books and other things...he told all his story. Everything is in it. It's in his book now. If you want innovation of the stories, you may have to justify that when they tell you, you’re not going to make nonsense." — [05:30] (Speaker B)
On “Hardware” and Readiness:
"The Bible says do not cast pearls before swine. They'll trample on it...If you say, 'Oh, why is the person not giving you SPSS, why is the person not giving you FIFA 2K25?' You’re running Pentium 1." — [06:31, 06:38] (Speaker C & B)
On Sharing Real Numbers:
"Sometimes even the numbers people quote in public is lower than what...It just so happens that I don’t know, these things happen, isn't it?" — [08:28] (Derrick, Speaker C)
This insightful episode tackles more than the mechanics of mentorship; it delves into the nuanced interplay of culture, belief, and readiness in the pursuit of success. By dissecting why some stories inspire and others are met with skepticism, and by stressing the importance of discernment and confidentiality, Derrick and his guests offer a fresh lens for ambitious Africans seeking to unlock new levels of opportunity. The analogies, biblical references, and personal anecdotes peppered throughout add relatability and memorable depth.