B (3:01)

Some people don't want to accept these things.

A (3:02)

You know, sometimes you come once again. Just don't lose train of thought. The red earth that I'm talking about, you know, it's natural dye. There are some people who take the red. You know, some of them is very, very, very red. They grind it, soak it in water and put in white T shirts in there over two weeks. You take it out. Is the color of the red. You wash it. It's natural dye. There's a big demand for natural dyed products in the world right there. Engineers, our scientists looking for jobs.

B (3:30)

So we are focusing on the wrong things, right?

A (3:32)

Exactly. And one thing, one more. Let me throw some numbers out there for you to look. Sports, Entertainment. Sports is $5.83 billion annually. Recorded music is 23 billion. So let's say it's 1 trillion. Manufacturing alone is $16.8 trillion every year. So if you import, you are importing all the time. Derek, look at is this rocket science. And you, you know, people make it seem manufacturing is such a difficult thing. If you fry me, you roast me. And granite is manufacturing. Kellogg's conflicts. What is it made out of? Roasted peanut. It's all manufacturing. People think that a manufacturing size should be massive, like gigafactories. Most factories around the world is within maybe like the size of mine.

B (4:30)

So we have to focus on adding value to products.

A (4:33)

Adding value. Oh, Africa, we are rich. RAW material producer. In this global economic structure, there is no raw material more expensive than finished goods. There's none. If anybody knows why, you tell me. I'll stop what I'm doing. There's none anywhere. Look at even gold. Raw gold. If I take the gold and design it and put my name on it, it's more expensive than the gold. Raw gold. So if we continue to Derek. Produce raw materials and we don't add value to it. And the only way we can see the value in our raw materials is to produce as many science and engineers as possible. I believe that Ghana, if we produce 150,000 engineers every year over 10 years, all engineers will study African history from first year to fourth year. So that grounds them. They know that the reason why they are being trained as engineers is to help our society. Derek, in 10 years we see what Garnell become because out of the 250,000 over 10 years, that's 1.5 million engineers. Are you telling me we won't get two or three people who are so brilliant that they will push our country forward? It's a numbers game. That's where other people, Russians, Chinese, Americans, Japanese, Koreans have mastered. We can do the same thing here. Engineering science is applied skill. You don't. Okay, I was a C student in university, right? C student. But when we used to go to the lab, I was truly, truly fantastic. So when we went to industry. Now, the reason why I was a C student is something. Okay, just that's how I am. Something that somebody has done. What is the interest in me? Because we know the results. Anyway, now when we have to come up with nouveau new products, oh my gosh, things that were taking people two years, I did it in three weeks. I am that great. And I have the awards to prove it. So if we can get so many of our kids and expose them to this. Derek, I'm telling you as a fact, you will change our society.

B (6:28)

I have one big man who loves to watch my podcast.

A (6:31)

Yes, sir.

B (6:32)

And I'm sure he's going to be watching this one as well. Big man senior. When you see this one and you want to have a chat with Mr. Fred about how we can progress on some of these topics in our country, please reach out and let's have this conversation. I mean, what you're saying is marvelous. It's amazing. We're having buildings breaking down, we're having people who are not qualified that are building products. Whereas people can actually be trained and then, you know, offer support for these people. But then it's not happening.

A (7:03)

They also.

B (7:04)

The other issue is that you train people and they travel abroad. Look at our nurses. The UK took them all.

A (7:09)

Once again, the African history that's not attached to engineering or the science of their program. African history has to be.

B (7:15)

Their biggest problem is that they are not being paid well. That's what they say.

A (7:18)

Okay.

B (7:19)

They are not being remunerated well for the work they put in how do we solve that?

A (7:23)

Okay.

B (7:23)

Do you know.

A (7:25)

This will be controversial? Has anybody sat down and looked at the pay rates of people in Vietnam, China, India and all those places? Has anybody done that? That's why I'm saying at times you have to look beyond just yourself and your comfort. Maybe they said because they say, oh yeah, you went and lived abroad. But at times as a society, that's where you know, Derek, you have to grab some deep. At times you have to grab things by the horns and drag it. So if you think about just you and your well being, so all doctors and nurses should leave the country, you forget your mom lives here, your parents live here. So that's what I'm saying. If we add the African history to things, Derek, it just becomes more than just you and your comfort. And Derek, these people who say Ghana is difficult when you go abroad, give them five years, you'll be saying at one point, I think when I was in Ghana, I think it wasn't that bad. I know so many of them, so many of them. So what has changed is the law of living west that most people, I, I even, I have people even forget about money. There's this friend of mine who is doing so well, doing this fast cloth brings it from China, flips it. She told me, oh, she's leaving to Canada to. She says every day she makes around 3,000 cities a day. Young lady, 22, 23 says is leaving and going to Canada. I told her, madame, call your family in Canada. How many of them make $350 a day? You are leaving to go above because he wants to go do masters. I think they said they just say they are not getting enumerated well because they look at the short term. Oh, maybe one of their siblings or friend went to Canada within UK within a year or two they bought a house, this and this. But they don't look at the long term game. How many people abroad have two, three homes? Best like in Europe. Let's say I'm a, I'm an engineer, I'm a doctor, a doctor abroad. A doctor Ghana who over the lifetime, how many of them, let's say who owns three, four, five homes. Just look at yourself. One home abroad, big house. But the person in Ghana might have multiple homes, multiple apartments. Look at your cohort, what you do over time, not just maybe five years.

B (9:31)

Then there is a certain group of people, our own, yes, black people who become so attached to the Western press, they don't want to come back home. Some of those people, maybe they were born they don't even want to, don't want to have anything to do with Africa. What do you tell them?

A (9:47)

We have no problem with that because you can't change them. You don't put resources on things that you can change. You put resources on things you can change. There's still also a cohort of them who would want to come. We have to facilitate things and make it easier for those who want to come. Those. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with immigration is going to be with people. As long as human beings are alive, there's going to be immigration. People be moving around offense like it's going to be with us. So those who want to say that there's nothing wrong with them, though, if you are there, try and get as much as you can. If you say you are not going to come back, get as much as you can for you and your family. Those who are here just understand that globally only 3% of people move out of where they are born globally. So if you are here and you're in your 20s, if you take 100 of you, only three of you will be able to move out. So make here comfortable for you. And if you make your comfortable and you want to go out, it's going to be easier. If you have the money and you want to go get visa and go abroad, it's easier at 14. Yes, sir.

B (10:42)

3Am yes. On the 24th of August.

A (10:45)

Yes.

B (10:46)

My stepfather called me and I sat on his bed the following morning. I was supposed to travel. My father was taking me abroad and he said, I'm so happy you are traveling. Your father is taking you abroad while you're going. Remember, this country is what made you who you are today.

A (11:00)

Yes.

B (11:01)

And when you go and things work out, remember, if it doesn't work out, this is where you come back to. Connected Minds Podcast.