ADDRESSING THE CONTROVERSY - TACOS IN NY, SHORT EPISODE & MORE

Summary

LA PLATICA
Episode: ADDRESSING THE CONTROVERSY - TACOS IN NY, SHORT EPISODE & MORE
Date: June 29, 2026
Hosts: Sebastian Robles (“Sebas”), Josh Leyva
Guest(s): Jess, D

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of LA PLATICA dives into recent online controversies, food debates, the World Cup, and personal reflections. Hosts Sebas and Josh are joined by recurring guests Jess and D for frank, comedic, and sometimes deep conversations ranging from the best tacos in the US to spiritual experiences, World Cup adventures, and self-care choices like Botox. The tone is candid, warm, and filled with banter, humor, and cultural pride.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Clearing Up the Tacos Controversy (02:29–10:23)

• The hosts respond to viral backlash after a recent interview with Luisito Comunica (one of Mexico's biggest YouTubers), who controversially claimed New York has the best tacos in the US.
  • Josh clarifies: “We do not agree with him. … I just want to clarify that that was his take, not my take. … Tacos in LA are my favorite places.” (03:37)
  • Jess adds, “New York is a fantastic place… but for tacos, for me, the best are in Southern California. … specifically, San Diego County region.” (07:50)
• They acknowledge NYC’s incredible food scene, but double down that LA — and especially Tijuana-style tacos in Southern California — are their personal favorites.
• Jess points out a migration connection: many people from Puebla, Mexico (Luisito's hometown) have moved to New York, which could explain his preference.
• Notable banter: “I'm not gonna say he's wrong. His experience might be different than mine. But what really stood out to me… people from Puebla migrate to New York, a huge majority.” – Jess (06:32)
• Josh’s hot take: “You're not going to say he's wrong. I'm going to say he's wrong. … I'm going to say he's dead wrong. I'm going to say he's so fucking wrong.” (06:01)

2. Behind the Luisito Comunica Episode: Short Length & Language Use (10:23–13:28)

• The episode with Luisito was “short” (~45 mins), leading to viewer complaints.
• The hosts explain that scheduling was tight due to Luisito’s media obligations, not their choice. “He didn’t want to leave. But the time and the team that he had with him … there was a whole team.” – Jess (11:08)
• On language: Some fans disliked the interview being mostly in English. Jess clarifies that Luisito wanted to speak English, and that the podcast caters to a bilingual but primarily English-speaking audience. “I always repeat the next sentence in English, just so people that didn’t catch that, know.” (13:18)

3. World Cup Vibes: Mexico’s Journey & Attending Games (17:53–29:47)

• The group shares World Cup excitement, pride in Mexico’s performance, and personal stories from attending games.
• Josh: “I got a chance to go to Guadalajara for game two. That was just electric, bro.” (19:05)
• Discussion of the energy and atmosphere in Mexican cities during the World Cup—“Beautiful chaos.”
• Jess asks Josh to compare Mexico City and Guadalajara. Josh says Guadalajara (“the people … were just winning my heart left and right”) stole his heart during the World Cup (21:12–21:40).
• Ticket and travel price spikes are bemoaned, with some FIFA-side-eye for high costs and exclusive branding: “The main dude of FIFA … Gianni Infantino … he looks so evil!” – Jess (23:10)
• Admiration for creative marketing hacks by brands like Levi’s and Gillette circumventing FIFA’s strict sponsor rules (24:08–25:23).

4. Philosophy, Spirituality, and Out-of-Body Experiences (33:23–40:58)

• A digression into “channeling aliens,” human potential, and energy, kicked off by viral TikToks of people claiming to channel beings from other dimensions.
  • Jess: “I truly believe that some of us have different sorts of chemical combustions … some of us are born with extreme types of energy waves, you know?” (34:49)
• They riff on ghost sightings, spirituality, ancient wisdom, and how technology today distracts from deeper sensing.
• The discussion pivots to psychedelic experiences (ayahuasca/DMT) and the concept of living entire lives in a brief moment:
  • Jess references a friend’s DMT experience: “He lived his life, like—that’s it. Married, kids, grew old, and then he woke up … that life was over.” (40:19)
• Dream talk: “I have dreams where I’m living, like, a week. … I’m coming on the show, doing a podcast. … I’m living out my day.” – Josh (41:02)
• Reflection on mortality, intuition, and tragic news: artists seemingly predicting their demise (Oliver Tree).

5. Death, Risk, and Extreme Sports (43:05–47:44)

• Discussion of recent tragic accidents (Oliver Tree’s helicopter crash, fatal bungee jump in Brazil) and the nature of risk.
• The group reflects on why some people crave extreme sports, referencing a Netflix documentary about BASE jumpers.
  • Jess: “They feed off adrenaline. … They make these choices because their brain works differently than yours.” (46:11)
• The importance of pushing out of comfort zones is endorsed, but also knowing personal limits.

6. Self-Care, Botox, and Aging (48:05–55:56)

• Jess discusses trying Botox for the first time: “I just did it yesterday. I got Botox for the first time ever. … I feel like a very adult.” (48:14)
• The group candidly shares experiences with Botox, discussing why and how it’s used, safety concerns, and fears. Jess: “Knowing [botox] paralyzes your muscles … it did kind of freak me out a little.” (51:58)
• Josh highlights the trade-offs: “New things always have risks. But I love the results, so I’ll take the chance.” (52:15)
• They touch on larger themes of “biohacking,” longevity, and whether anyone would actually want to live forever.

7. Closing: Love for World Cup, Football, and Familia (55:56–end)

• Shout-outs to national teams, multicultural pride, and the beauty of football bringing people together.
• “Honestly, that’s why I love watching the World Cup. Watching all Latino teams playing. It’s like, yes! Beat their ass.” – Jess (56:07)
• Closing with promo: merch, discount codes, and lots of love for La Platica listeners.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jess (On Tacos controversy):
  "I'm not gonna say he's wrong. His experience might be different than mine. But what really stood out to me… people from Puebla migrate to New York, a huge majority." (06:32)

• Josh (On Tacos):
  "You're not going to say he's wrong. I'm going to say he's wrong. ...I'm going to say he's dead wrong. I'm going to say he's so fucking wrong." (06:01)

• Jess (On Luisito's team):
  "He didn’t want to leave. But the time and the team that he had with him … there was a whole team." (11:08)

• Josh (On the World Cup atmosphere):
  "I've never been in a city that just felt so alive. ...It's just chaos, bro. But it's like, beautiful, beautiful chaos." (19:05)

• Jess (On risk and extreme sports):
  "They feed off adrenaline. ...They make these choices because their brain works differently than yours." (46:11)

• Jess (On spirituality and human potential):
  "I truly believe that some of us have different sorts of chemical combustions ...some of us are born with extreme types of energy waves." (34:49)

• Jess (On Botox):
  "Knowing that ...[botox] paralyzes your muscles, your intestines, everything—You die. There’s no cure. So like, knowing that and being like, I’m really about to give this..." (51:40)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Taco Controversy Explained: 02:29–10:23
• Behind Luisito Comunica Episode (length & language): 10:23–13:28
• World Cup Stories & Food: 17:53–29:47
• Philosophy & Spirituality: 33:23–40:58
• Extreme Sports & Mortality: 43:05–47:44
• Botox & Self-Care Talk: 48:05–55:56
• Closing Thoughts: 55:56–end

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Summary Takeaways

• The La Platica team values honest, culture-rooted conversation, and is passionate—sometimes fiercely so—about their opinions, especially regarding food and identity.
• They don’t shy away from controversy, addressing it with humor and pragmatism, and provide space for nuanced takes involving community, migration, and taste.
• The blend of lighthearted banter, deep dives into identity, mortality, and philosophy, and playful authenticity sets the tone throughout.
• This episode is rich with cultural connection, reflections on fame and responsibility, and the ongoing balancing act of being public figures in the influencer and podcast worlds.

Transcript

[Josh]

There's this guy right now who's all over my TikTok page, and he claims for the past 40 years he's been channeling an alien from another dimension. And he's like, speaking, and he like, kind of like brings them into his body.

[Jess]

Some people do it once, have a great experience, they might have a bad one, but then there's some people that they do it. They're never the same anymore. I've seen, like, people who have been dead come to my life. Like, I remember I had a dream. I remember, like, I saw. I was hanging out with my grandma. This is.

[Josh]

I don't even want to talk about this, but the artist, Oliver Tree, who recently passed. But dude, what trips me out is like a lot of the stuff, like, leading up to his death, like, he was on podcast and saying certain things, and it just like, you kind of like, trip out. You're like. Almost like he had, like an intuition. La Plata Nation. The World cup is on and popping. And we've been going to the games. Have you been going? Look, look, don't worry, don't worry. We got you covered. We got an app, it's called SeatGeek, right? They got all your ticketing needs, whatever you're looking for. World cup, late night, date nights, other sporting events, concerts, everything, everything, everything.

[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

I don't know what he said.

[Josh]

Segundos. Yeah, I'm gonna use it.

[Guest Jess]

Let me be honest.

[Jess]

Every guest is a privilege.

[Josh]

Do we want to go there?

[Jess]

Yeah, Jolly. Cause I'm on a podcast with Josh Ley. Hell yeah. You have too, mother.

[Josh]

Ladies and gentlemen, let me just tell you.

[Guest Jess]

2:53. Sorry. Cause I'm gonna fix that.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. Chaos happening in La Platica Studios. Guys, bear with us. So sorry. Technical difficulties going down. It's chaos. Welcome back to La Platica. It's not normally like this. We're normally more equipped, but, you know. You know, happens sometimes, bro. Life happens.

[Jess]

Sometimes does happen.

[Josh]

There's a. There's a lot of echo. Am I tripping?

[Jess]

No, I think you're tripping.

[Josh]

I was tripping. I hear you.

[Jess]

I hear you pretty good.

[Josh]

Yo. Before we get into this episode, we recently had Luisito on the podcast, and we did a clip where we were asking him his favorite tacos in the United States outside of Mexico.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And he. I want to talk about this. He said New York. And here's the thing. We do not agree with him. Okay. There were some comments where people were like, I think the way I. The clip was positioned, it kind of made it seem like I was agreeing with him. I knew he was going to say New York once. He didn't say L. A. Because like I said in the video, I was like, you don't take me for a Tex Mex guy.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You take me for. And I just assume New York.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because I'm like, that's another great food spot.

[Jess]

It's.

[Guest D]

It's.

[Jess]

I think it's number one food spot in the world in general.

[Josh]

But if we're talking tacos.

[Jess]

But if we're talking tacos. Okay. I'm not. I don't want to interrupt you. I'll have my chance.

[Josh]

Go.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Josh]

So that's the thing. Look, I was born and raised in la. I've had the privilege to travel to Texas. I've had privilege to travel, like, different

[Jess]

states and flex on us, G. You

[Josh]

know what I'm saying? I'm always spending money, lots of money.

[Jess]

A lot of party passes.

[Josh]

No, but I'm trying tacos. Of course. I love Mexican food. Tacos are probably my number one food that I love to eat. Right.

[Guest Jess]

Really?

[Josh]

And I've had tacos in New York. And there's this one spot in particular called Tacos Numero Uno.

[Guest D]

Yes.

[Josh]

And those tacos are insanely good. They're insanely good. But that is the only spot in New York that I've really had good tacos. And I probably had maybe. I don't know, let's just take five spots. And I was like, okay, that spot's bomb. But you go to la, bro, you can. You can chuck a quarter, right? And you'll hit a taco spot. I guarantee you those tacos are some of the best tacos you've ever had in your life.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So I just want to clarify that that Was his take, not my take. Okay. Tacos la. I mean, tacos in LA are my favorite places. My favorite place to eat tacos outside of Mexico.

[Jess]

Yes.

[Josh]

Because if you talk about Mexico, tacos, like, for me, my favorite tacos in the world is tacos orinocos from Mexico City. That is my favorite entire planet.

[Jess]

Oh, really? Okay, Probably. Now I know. Now I know what to get you for your birthday gift cards.

[Guest D]

Yeah,

[Jess]

yeah. So he said that. I was actually very surprised that he said that. Now, mind you, it's like, dude, we're talking about. I think he's the second most famous YouTuber in Mexico.

[Josh]

If not number one.

[Jess]

It's not number one, but the dude has 45 million subs, bro. So it's like I, I will place a bet on Kalshi that he has had more tacos in New York than myself.

[Josh]

Use our code.

[Jess]

Right. So.

[Josh]

Just kidding.

[Jess]

So what I'm trying to say is, like, dude, maybe he's right. And yo, to be honest with you, I've gone to New York and it is a. To me, it's the food capital of the world, dude. The food, it's.

[Josh]

It's amazing.

[Jess]

The vibes, the restaurants, the Michelin stars, the bars, even the night scene. Oh, New York is a fantastic place. If you haven't had a chance to go to New York, please book your ticket. Only if you can book airline flights through SeatGeek. But you can. But this would only allow me to tell you that this video is sponsored by SeatGeek, number one rated ticketing app on the App Store. But New York is the Mecca of food. I definitely agree with that. Now a lot of people were saying that, oh, no, he's wrong this and that. Look, I personally, I'm not going to say he's wrong because he might have another experience. Look, tacos number uno. Fire, right?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

There's also a place called Tacos Ramirez, I think, in New York. Super fire. Right. So there's places. Now, they also said on the comments, because I saw. Because the clip went viral, obviously. Why wouldn't it go viral?

[Josh]

By the way, he commented on it today.

[Jess]

Today?

[Josh]

Yeah, double down.

[Jess]

And he basically said, I stand.

[Josh]

I said what I said.

[Jess]

I said what I said. And I respect that. So I'm not gonna say he's wrong. His experience might be different than mine, but what really stood out to me.

[Josh]

Wait, can I say something? You're not going to say he's wrong. I'm going to say he's wrong.

[Jess]

That's fine.

[Josh]

I'm going to Say he's dead wrong. I'm going to say he's so fucking wrong. I'm a little. I don't even know if you understood the question.

[Jess]

Got it, got it, got it. No, no, no, I understand. I'm not saying. Like I said, I'm not saying he's wrong, but I also have a different opinion. Yeah, like, that's not my pick, but, like, if he thinks that cool, I have to respect it. Right?

[Josh]

Here's the thing. It wasn't. It wasn't like an option question. It was a. It was a true or false question. Yeah, it was a rhetorical question. Yeah, I'm joking, I'm joking. No, I get your point. Like everybody.

[Jess]

And like I said, his experience in New York might have been so much different. Now, let me tell you something real quick. Now, what really stood out to me is that I didn't know this, but he's from Puebla, lives in Mexico City. Right. I don't know if you saw this as well, but people from Puebla migrate to New York, a huge majority. And I know that for a fact because every time I go to New York, I run into somebody from Puebla. It's.

[Guest D]

It's.

[Jess]

They're. They're everywhere in New York.

[Josh]

That's interesting.

[Jess]

Shout out, Puebla. So maybe in his eyes, you know what I mean? Like, if you're coming home, you're coming from somewhere and. And, you know, things hit, like, from home, that might be your pick.

[Josh]

So now, mind you, you're just kind of piecing this together to make it make sense.

[Jess]

Mind you, that's not my number one pick. My number one pick. The best tacos in the world are here in Southern California.

[Josh]

In the world.

[Jess]

Not. Not mine. Is Mexico. Like, coming back to the actual question is, outside of Mexico, where are the best tacos in the world, though? Okay, sorry. Outside of Mexico, the best tacos. Yes, in the United States. Because I don't think anywhere else. There is a place in Japan. They make great tacos, too. That's another conversation. But in the United States, for me, the best tacos are in Southern California. And. But he. But this was going to upset you. They're not in la, I have to say. They're in the San Diego county region. I'm sorry. I lived in Murrieta for a very long time, and for years and years and years, I go to San Diego. Shout out, San Diego. Not the Padres, but I go to San Diego all the time. And I kid you not.

[Josh]

You know why? I kind of see what you're saying.

[Jess]

And the only reason why I say

[Josh]

that, because they're next to Tijuana, is because.

[Jess]

Yes. And because me personally, my favorite taco being in Mexico. Mexico doesn't make just one taco every region. Tacos, Estilo, Jalisco tacos, even tacos that Yucatan are so much different. That's a beautiful thing about Mexico. People don't know that, you know. So my favorite type of taco, son Estilo Tijuana. That's me. Because right there and then my second is probably like the area from Sonora, because I do love Tortilla Arena.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

So it's like, you know, so it's like. That's why I personally think that the best tacos are. They're here too. Angels Tijuana style tacos here in la. Crazy fire. Insane Crazy fire.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And a lot of people have it like that. You know what I mean? Like, they know how to do it. There's another one that I just came out with. I just saw them online and their tacos look so freaking good, I forgot. I forgot their name, but it's the same thing. Estilo Tijuana.

[Josh]

So that's your.

[Jess]

That's my.

[Josh]

That's your.

[Jess]

So like I said, I've been to San Diego many times and they deliver. I think they deliver better tacos. I'm so sorry. I. I rep L A. You've seen the tattoo.

[Josh]

I'm not gonna lie. I was, I was a little surprised by his answer, if I'm being honest, because he, he, he tends to be very, like, well, well versed in, like, food.

[Jess]

Yeah, right.

[Josh]

And he was like, very, like, no, it's definitely not la.

[Jess]

Yeah. And you know what? I respect it. And you know what else I was thinking too? He is such a content creator that I wouldn't be surprised if he said that. If he planted that just to you guys up.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Jess]

Just because he's so great. And I thought about that. He know what he was doing. You know, either he knew what he was doing or he's just such a g. And he said, I don't give a. They're from New York. And look, a lot of people in the comments, they held it down for New York. They're like, you guys are stupid. You guys just don't know.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Jess]

Yeah. You guys just don't know. And I respect it. I respect it. Like I said, that's not my pick.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

I think that the best, best, best tacos are here in Southern California or in California. Southern California. And specifically, from my experience, just like, how he had his Experience from the San Diego county region. And also, I got a lot of complaints. And I'm so sorry Lucito was here. Right. Epic guy to be with. Two things. And remind me, because I'm going to talk about two things. The first thing is the amount of time we had with them. And the second thing is I saw a comment saying, like, why are you guys speaking English? Okay, so for the first time, for the first section of my conversation is the amount of time. Guys, this guy was on a media run for Grandmalo. Look, we still have the bottles here,

[Josh]

these little shooters at their launch.

[Jess]

Dude, we with Luisito, because if we didn't, I just toss these out, but I with them. He's one of my favorite YouTubers of all time. I love him. I love his personality. I've been so hyped to have him. So when we got blessed with the opportunity for him to be here, obviously, yes, like, what the. We're so excited. But he's a busy guy, and honestly, he didn't want to leave. But the time and the team that he had with him, like, you guys don't see behind this camera, there was a whole team.

[Josh]

There was a whole team, and they're all watching us.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And Honestly, it was 40, 45 minutes. I. I forgot. But the whole time, they were actually from, like, 30, 35. They were like, hey, we got to.

[Guest D]

We got to go. We got to go.

[Jess]

They had a whole timeline of their day planned out. So I'm so sorry, but at the end of the day, yeah, obviously, I would just be here kicking in with them. For seven hours, bro. Yeah, for seven hours, bro. Obviously. I hope Wrestle. I pray that one day he can come back. If not, totally fine. I am happy with my life and him being here now. That's why he had to leave. So I'm so sorry, but at the end of the day, it's not me or us being like. It's not like we planned 45 minutes, dude. I don't have him here all day long. But like I said, I have to respect his time.

[Guest Jess]

And.

[Jess]

And at the end of the day, I'm grateful he was even here, even if it was for five minutes. You know what I mean? So I. Sorry. Sorry that you guys feel that way. The second thing is, I saw some comment about you guys were taking advantage of something, something, something. Why didn't you guys talk in. In Spanish or English? I try to speak as much Spanish to him as possible, but I kid you not. He wanted to talk in English. Yeah, him and his whole Team, mind you, obviously this is a American Latino podcast. Obviously we speak English on my behalf. I like to speak English and Spanish sometimes when there's a Spanish speaker. But I don't know if you guys know this, but obviously there's 90% women here, 10% men. But I would like to say that about 100% of you speak English and know Spanish. So I have to be mindful as well that you guys also sometimes might not understand full Spanish. So I don't know if you guys noticed, but every time I always repeat the next sentence. The same sentence, but in English, just so the people that didn't catch that now. Except for that time.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

So I'm sorry that he didn't speak that much Spanish and there wasn't any. Like, I just saw a comment. It was kind of like weird. It threw me off. Like, why aren't you guys speaking more Spanish?

[Guest D]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Jess]

Something about taking advantage of something. I don't know.

[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

Sammy Sosa so so we think so. We think it's not. It's not. It's not verified. It's not.

[Jess]

Dude, I checked online, and it's the

[Josh]

same signature, but it's usually, if it's verified, there's, like, a little silver sticker that they, like, put on it to.

[Jess]

Oh, that's what it was when I got it. I thought it was, like, the lids and I took it off.

[Josh]

You're lying. It needs to be authenticated. There's an authentication.

[Jess]

Oh, shit. You're right. Oh, my God. And a QR code.

[Josh]

Let me see.

[Jess]

It says, witness autograph.

[Guest D]

There you go. Oh.

[Josh]

What?

[Jess]

Whoa. But, yeah, so I did feel bad that people were saying that. Beckett. Authentic authentication Certification verification Item name Bat signer Sammy Sosa in 2026. Beckett witnessed in Illinois. So is Chicago.

[Josh]

Is there a video?

[Jess]

It says, enter the serial number.

[Josh]

They're just, like, made up. Some guy. No, that guy, dude. He totally saw him sign it.

[Jess]

We'll do this later. It's not important. Music.

[Josh]

Yup, that's him.

[Jess]

But, bro, it's. Sammy Sosa signed it. Gracias, Sammy. I know that you're a big fan of the Practica. Thanks for sign that.

[Josh]

He's one of. He's one of the 10 of male listeners. Yeah, you guys don't know that, but.

[Jess]

No, but honestly, Josh, I did feel bad that people were like, well, 40 minutes because, you know, I feel bad sometimes we do quick 45ers and stuff. But, bro, with Luisito, I wanted to be there for, like, two hours. And, you know, even on the back end, a lot of people don't know, but, like, you know, even, like, they were like, hey, can we film now? Even when it was scheduled later time and Josh wasn't even in the building,

[Josh]

I was literally at home working, and

[Jess]

he had to, like, dip.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Just called me, and I. I thought it was something more serious. He's like, yeah, he comes to the studio right now. I'm like, what happened?

[Jess]

Yeah, but he's such a great guy, man. You can. You can feel the aura. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's really cool.

[Josh]

He's that guy, bro.

[Jess]

He literally is that guy.

[Josh]

Lucito, 45 million people have at one point in their life hit the subscribe button to watch him think about that. 45 million people, bro. I just hit my chin on this mic. Yeah, but that's wild. It's wild. That's wild.

[Jess]

It's. He's a huge inspiration, doing big things and representing Mexico to the fullest.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And allowing other people outside of Mexico to follow him. And I think he. His camaraderie, his character, his.

[Josh]

Yeah. Also just to add to your point, too, he's also creating a space to utilize his platform. Right. For example, like, him coming on our podcast helps out la platica. Like, he doesn't have to do this.

[Jess]

He didn't have to.

[Josh]

So, like, having somebody like that also pays it forward and, like, kind of shows love.

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he. And. And mind you, if. If. If it was too short for here, gong through the corner, too. I think he did, like, 45 to an hour over there. I think they had a little bit more time, right?

[Guest Jess]

Yeah, yeah, we had, like, almost. Yeah. A little more than an hour.

[Jess]

Yeah. And I'm telling you, you can ask Jess. Time was crunching.

[Josh]

Yep, yep. So very true. Speaking of Mexico. Mexico's moving on, baby.

[Jess]

Dude, Mexico not only is moving on, but they beat their group stage, and they're undefeated right now.

[Josh]

They're undefeated.

[Jess]

It feels good, man. Mexico has never lost an El Estadio Azteca, and it's because of the fans, the energy being in Mexico.

[Josh]

The next game is there as well. And if they win that game, which they will, when they win that game, they get to play there again.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

So I'm like, bro, this is set up in our favor. Like, the gods are for us also.

[Jess]

Us, too. And then us plays at SoFi the whole time, basically.

[Josh]

So I got to give credit to Tyler here, but he posted something saying, well, since, you know, Mexico was. Has become sponsored by Taylor Saluth, you know, as the official hydration sponsor. They haven't lost a game in the World Cup.

[Jess]

They haven't.

[Josh]

So I don't know.

[Jess]

They're, like, highly hydrated.

[Josh]

They're so hydrated, bro. There you go. There you go. No, but it's honestly such a beautiful thing, bro. I. I cannot tell you how proud I feel, how excited I am.

[Jess]

The.

[Josh]

The joy I feel to see people celebrating and representing, you know, Mexico. I think it's just such a beautiful thing. I got a chance to go to Walahara for game two.

[Jess]

I was going to ask you.

[Josh]

And that was just electric, bro. I've never been in a city that just felt so alive. Like, you know, people say that, like, bro, the city was alive. People on the streets, all those videos you've seen on Tick Tock, they're all real and they're all. It's just chaos, bro. But it's like, beautiful, beautiful chaos.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And people are just happy. And, of course, Mexico's Winning. So it's just. Yeah, it's just beautiful all around, man.

[Jess]

It's different because it's. It would happen regardless of a win or a loss, but when they're winning.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Jess]

You can feel something in the air, right?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jess]

Okay. Hot take. But I've known Josh for many, many years. I would say a decade, maybe. I don't know. Forgot, don't care. But he's been in Mexico City, and

[Josh]

I've been to Guadalajara.

[Jess]

And he's been to Guadalajara.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And I asked him. I asked him, you guys know that my family is from Jalisco? And I asked him, where do you prefer? And Josh answered a question.

[Josh]

So I will say I probably have done more exploration in Mexico City.

[Jess]

Yes.

[Josh]

I've been to Guadalajara twice.

[Jess]

Yes.

[Josh]

One of them was for a wedding, for let's do Makeup. Shout out to let's do Makeup. And then the second time was for the World Cup. So those are huge moments.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Josh]

So I think what that does to your heart and write your experience, it changes it, because it's not like you're not just taking a trip. Like, there's, like, a meaningful impact behind. Behind it. So I think, like, being in that atmosphere in Guadalajara during that time, I was like, I am in love with this place.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I'm in love with the people. I'm in love with the energy, bro. I'm telling you, like, everything just felt so, like, vibrant and the people. But here's the thing, bro. For me, the things that make. Or the things that make cities beautiful or places beautiful are the people.

[Jess]

Sure.

[Josh]

And the people in that time were just winning my heart left and right.

[Jess]

Got it.

[Josh]

You know? So that is what captured me for Guadalajara, and I should have clarified that, because it's not so much like. Like, oh, the city has so much more to offer. It was like, bro, the. That energy that was just there in that moment. I was like, I love Guadalajara. I love it. And. And I did say a take. I was like, I think I prefer this over Mexico.

[Jess]

You said you were gonna live there.

[Josh]

I said, I move here. Yeah.

[Jess]

I don't know if you're drunk.

[Josh]

No, I was definitely drunk.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But also. Yeah.

[Jess]

So you're saying.

[Josh]

Well, I don't know, because. Because this World cup, like I said, so it's people from all over. All over Mexico, all over the United States, all over the world, bro. I was partying with the Koreans. We're taking dummy shots, bro. So it's like, all of that is what made it. You Know what I mean? All of that is what made it. But yes, to your point. Yes.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

To a degree.

[Jess]

What a great experience.

[Josh]

It was incredible, bro. It was incredible. I. I want to go back to Mexico City for the World cup because they're playing in Azteca to see what that's like.

[Jess]

Yeah, same.

[Josh]

Because that's going to be insane.

[Jess]

I know. I'm telling. I've been traveling a lot with, with Karen and you know, we're like, should we just do another side quest? You know, it's like, it's worth it. We just want to be planted. But it's like, should we just. I mean, first of all, tickets, like, if you haven't bought airplane tickets and like, you decide to go. Yeah, first of all, like, I think only like Frontier has tickets and they're like 900 bucks.

[Josh]

It's. It's so stupid.

[Jess]

It's crazy expensive right now. And then, and then Karen's like, is it like illegal to like have them deck this high? I'm like, to a degree, I don't know. But it's just supply and demand, baby. That's how the world works.

[Josh]

No, but they are, like, really expensive. More than usual. Because. Because even like the face value tickets that FIFA was selling them for, people were complaining because even at Qatar four years ago, tickets were not that expensive. So, yeah, there is a. There is a crazy another side of FIFA that. Yeah, we can get into FIFA. So interesting, bro, like, the way they, like, maneuver these.

[Jess]

Can we, like, can we talk about the. The main dude of FIFA and why he looks so diabolical? Jesus Christ. The man's the winner.

[Josh]

Like, he's basically.

[Jess]

He's at every game. The, the bald guy, obviously he can fly a jet. I mean, he's in North America, but he can go to any game he wants. Obviously he's in metal. Metal. But why does he look like he

[Josh]

looked this up was bald, man.

[Guest Jess]

I don't know his name. And you guys aren't helping.

[Jess]

His name is Gianni Infantino. Look, bro, he looks like, bless his heart, he might be like the best dad ever, but Dr. Damn, he looks so evil.

[Josh]

He is, bro.

[Jess]

And like, he runs FIFA and like the negative things around it, I mean, he's the one calling the shot. So it's like, I don't know, man. I don't know if I trust that. Oh, I don't know if I trust that.

[Josh]

Look what they've created. The organ this tournament is. There was one of the greatest tournaments in the world ever.

[Jess]

Ever.

[Josh]

So, like, to you Know, to their credit, like, they're obviously doing something right.

[Jess]

Yeah, of course.

[Josh]

There's a lot of just. I don't know, I don't know.

[Jess]

No, yeah. FIFA knows how to put it, knows how to organize it really beautifully. Yeah, in a way. But pricing is a different thing. But organization wise, like, yeah, it's a beautiful thing. But at the end of the day, like, what makes that beautiful is the humans who play soccer, dude. From every ethnic, from every country, from everything. And all the highlights and everything that they do, they're, they're come up from kids and stuff like that. So that's what makes soccer beautiful, football beautiful.

[Josh]

I love when my, I love marketing and I love when brands get creative in their marketing and find what's working and what's happening around them that they can build around. So for example, like, FIFA is getting a lot of, you know, they're, they're not allowing anybody to promote their brand unless they're paying for it. You got to pay. You got to pay to play. And I get it. Right. They're running a business, but they are so unbelievably strict. I saw a photo where there was like a suite for a World cup game. And all the, the condiments were taped out so you couldn't see any brand. Like the ketchup. Nothing. Like every single condiment was taped up so you couldn't see who it is. And even for Levi's stadium, they covered it. And what Levi did was they, you, they put that as their logo. So if you are. Yeah, the. Because it's like, it's like almost like a white blanket that they like over it. So they, they use that as their logo. And I just think it's really creative when brands do stuff like that. Also Gillette, for their stadium, to cover it up, they almost made it feel like it was like foam, like shaving. Shaving cream. And I'm like, bro, that is so genius. And I just, I, I learned a lot from that. Like just being able to like leverage in and lean into, you know, you know, different ways to, to like market your brand. Yeah. And I think that was, that was, that was really cool.

[Jess]

Yeah, it's like that one saying goes, like, when life gives you.

[Josh]

Look at this.

[Jess]

When life gives you lemons.

[Josh]

That is so funny. And then did you see the Levi, the actual. If you go on their, like Instagram. Jess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jess]

And then it's their default pick.

[Josh]

It's their default pick.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Guest D]

There's a. I want to get your guys opinion, see what you would do in this situation. But a Belgium player who's playing in the World cup, he left to go back home because his wife, they're expecting their first child. Yeah. So he left his team to go be there for the first. The birth of his first bro.

[Jess]

Are you gonna ask me what I would do?

[Guest D]

Yeah. What would you.

[Josh]

Okay, this is a side. This is a side note. This is a side note. I don't know if you guys know this, but Ohtani recently had his second baby, and he was at the game the next day. I saw him play the next day, and I'm like, you're questioning.

[Jess]

That's what I was gonna ask. Okay. The Belgian player, Estee Tulad.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Jess]

He's like, metal. Metal top dog.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Oh. Because if I wasn't, then I would go. But if not, I think my baby later on in life will understand.

[Josh]

Is it.

[Jess]

I have the country and I'm all back.

[Josh]

It's his first baby. Damn, dude.

[Jess]

Bro, you got a country on your back on the World Cup.

[Josh]

But at least, like Ohtani, like, just go the birth, and then you got to come back, bro. You know what I mean? Is that. Is that what he, like, he left for?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But he wants to be there for his wife and everything. Of course.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But if I get it, it's tough, man.

[Jess]

If I was a Belgian player and I'm a top dog, I'm making, obviously, millions. Right. And you know that your wife is about to be pregnant. Someone's being born in Mexico or in LA or somewhere. My baby is going to be an American. I'm sorry. And later on, we'll figure out the dual citizenship. But other than that, like, you're supposed to know that. Why would you fly all the way back?

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Jess]

I would already have it all planned out. You know what I mean?

[Guest D]

I didn't think about that. That dual citizenship, that. That works in your favor, too.

[Jess]

That's what I'm saying. Like, he didn't plan that out very well.

[Guest D]

And I feel like Belgium now, the whole country of Belgium, if they do good. No, I feel like if he would have done good if you would have stayed, I feel like the whole country would have loved the child.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Guest D]

Honorary.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Guest Jess]

Hopefully he comes back in time and continues playing.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

How are they doing? Are they doing all right?

[Jess]

I think they are. No, let me check.

[Guest D]

I don't think they're doing.

[Josh]

They're not doing so hot.

[Guest D]

After he left, everything went down for them.

[Josh]

Wow, bro, that's such a tough position. But I'm not. I Was like, tripping out about Otani. They were like, yeah, he just had his baby yesterday. And I'm like, what? But I get it, man. I mean, you got to get back to work. You got to get back to work.

[Jess]

Yeah. I mean, who's. Who's not to. Who's not to say that he's at the hospital all day long and then he just goes to the game. The game's only three hours.

[Josh]

No, but they're there all day. I was there at batting practice at three. So he was at the stadium by like, 12.

[Jess]

You saw him?

[Josh]

Yeah, and I saw him. He was warming up. That's when the lady, like, came up to me and she was like.

[Jess]

And I think he had a boy.

[Josh]

Oh, wow.

[Jess]

A boy Otani.

[Josh]

Damn. And his wife is a crazy athlete as well.

[Jess]

She's a basketball player.

[Josh]

Crazy.

[Jess]

She's like a crazy athlete. Yeah, they're like an athlete family.

[Josh]

So they're moving on. Is Belgium moving on? Because they're third?

[Guest D]

Technically. Yeah, but they should be first place.

[Jess]

Yeah, but they're gonna play a first place team.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Damn, dude, I'm having so much fun. The World cup, bro.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah, bro. I wait for it every four years and it's just last. Last time they came. Or was it when they were playing in Russia like eight years ago? I remember I just moved to the Valley and it happened. And I think they were in Russia, bro. Right. Now we have it easy.

[Josh]

Yeah, we.

[Jess]

We get to wake up and then like at 11, there's a game and throughout the whole day.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

When they were playing in Russia, I was at the bar at 3am yeah, bro. Watching Mexico play, bro. Yeah, I mean, it's a vibe.

[Josh]

It is a vibe, but it gets.

[Jess]

It gets really tough because you're drinking, the bars are open, they're making exceptions. Like, it's cool, but, God, it's so nice to just have it at this time. In New York, they get to watch games, like, at 10, 11 at night, just starting.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Jess]

I was just in New York, in Queens. Shout out.

[Josh]

Queens, New York.

[Jess]

We went to go see Colombia versus.

[Josh]

That was a good game to be at.

[Jess]

Oh, my God, I forgot. Who did they play recently? And they won. No, no, no, no, no. Anyways, doesn't matter. Oh, all the Colombians were there in Queens, and it was just such a good time. It was really cool, dude.

[Josh]

It's crazy how much people put into this. I have a friend. I can't really call him out too much, but he. He's like, not Working. He's like, I'm taking a month off for the World Cup.

[Jess]

Good for him.

[Josh]

Yeah. And he's like, I don't. He's like, by the way, like, my boss doesn't really know I'm doing this.

[Jess]

Oh, shit.

[Josh]

Like, he's just doing it on the low. Like, not really working because he's working remote. But he's like, I don't even care if I get fired. Like, I love this. I love this. And he's, like, all in on it. And he's like. And it's not just me. There's, like, a group of us, like, people dedicate their whole, like, time just to watch games and sports, bet and commentate, and, like, just be around it, you know?

[Jess]

That's why football is the most. To me, it's the most beautiful sport in the world.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Even if you say that I watch baseball throughout every year and. And do that. But there's nothing like. Like football, bro.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

There's nothing like it. And can the unique. Can the US Change the name? It's not like. Not like, not soccer. Like, it should be Football.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Even if you say football.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Even if you say football, it's still fine.

[Jess]

Yeah. Because, like, why did you guys have to, like, make it so difficult? You're the only people that say soccer.

[Josh]

And that word is so ugly, too. Soccer. It's just like. It's just the ugliest word.

[Jess]

And then football is football. And I'm like, doesn't even make sense. It should be called throwball.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Foot.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

You don't use your feet.

[Josh]

Or even, like, handball or something. Or like, tackle ball.

[Jess]

Triangle ball.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Polygon ball.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. Anything.

[Jess]

What shape is old pig skin? Hey, Arnold.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Hey, Arnold. Ball.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Move it, football head. Are we too young for that? Yeah, right.

[Josh]

No, bro. I feel like our audience knows. Hey. Arnold is so nodding his head. Yes. If we're getting a nod from Saul. Yeah.

[Jess]

I don't know, man. So be. I don't even think he knows.

[Josh]

Rolly.

[Jess]

Polio.

[Josh]

Dude, there was something we said that I threw. That threw me off. No way. I told you, dude. Are you considered gen Z?

[Guest D]

I'm 1998.

[Josh]

He's considered clueless. You are. You are, bro. You're on the cusp. You're on the cusp. Yeah. You're considered that. Did you know that? Gen Z.

[Jess]

97 to 2012.

[Josh]

Did you know that it goes, like, in alphabetical order? I'm sorry. This is like a. People knew this. I had no idea. So Gen Z is the last generation. That's why it's Generation Alpha, because it's A. And we're millennials, which is actually, we're generation. What is it?

[Guest D]

Where.

[Josh]

That's. Millennials is like a. It's a nickname, but it's all in alphabetical order. I did not know this. Somebody told me this recently, and I was like, oh, my God, Is it Gen way? Yes. Yes. So we're technically Gen Y and then Gen Z, and then now it's Jenna. It's starting over, bro. We're in the restart of gens. That is kind of freaky.

[Jess]

Why does it cycle, though? Like, why does it restart? Like, why go back to the top?

[Josh]

And I can't. Can't create any more letters, bro. That is what it is. You got to keep it going.

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

There's this guy right now who's all over my TikTok page, and he claims for the past 40 years, he's been channeling an alien from another dimension. And he's, like, speaking, and he, like, kind of, like, brings them into his body. And, dude, the thing about it is that he. He's speaking, like, these things that, like, just feel right. Like, you're like, oh, shit, like this. That makes a lot of sense. But he's, like, talking about how he's channeling this alien from another dimension. It's crazy.

[Jess]

Can you send it to me?

[Josh]

I'll send it to you. You're gonna be so fascinated by. And he, like, closes his eyes. I'm not joking. He's like, well, the reason is because the people from the other planets. I've been trying to say, bus, blah, blah, blah, whatever. It's crazy, bro. And you're, like, kind of engaged. You're like, damn. But he's dropping, like, nuggets, like, wisdom and, like, it's crazy. I don't know.

[Jess]

I kind of like. I don't say.

[Josh]

I believe in that. I do.

[Jess]

Like, I do.

[Josh]

So you think you could. Somebody could channel, like, another being from another dimension?

[Jess]

100 yeah, I believe. I. I truly.

[Josh]

100.

[Jess]

I. I'm not trying to say things to, like, no, that doesn't, like, agree with my religion or something like that. I'm just talking, like, general basic. That I think about. I believe that people aren't like. I mean, me and you, probably the same maybe. I don't know, maybe we haven't unlocked powers or whatever, but I feel like everybody in this room is somewhat the same, but I do feel like sometimes humans are born. I don't know, maybe, like, with I mean, what runs your body, right? Like you don't have a battery in your ass, right? Like you don't know that.

[Josh]

You don't know that, dude.

[Guest Jess]

All right, why is it going to be in the.

[Josh]

Yeah, why does it got to be my ass?

[Jess]

Well, that. They said like it fits in there. It's like a perfect circle for a double A battery.

[Guest Jess]

Please don't put batteries up your ass.

[Jess]

You're still not on. I need 15 of them.

[Josh]

Oh, no, no. You put them on backwards, dude.

[Guest D]

Now you got to blow on it.

[Josh]

You got to blow on it.

[Jess]

You just hold your butt cheeks like this. They pop out. I believe that, you know, there's. There's something in you. That and me too. And everybody powers. That powers us, you know, Cuz we're just blood and mush, you know, and chemicals. But I do feel like there's some humans out there if you probably think I'm super. Whatever. I don't care.

[Josh]

Yeah. Nothing to lose.

[Jess]

I truly believe that some of us have like different sort of chemical combustions, maybe different types of metals. That we're just born like that, bro.

[Josh]

So there's this.

[Jess]

We're just born with different types of. Some of us are born with extreme types of energy waves, you know, and that's not your fault.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

It's however your human was. Was. Was available. Like for example, maybe fish start hitting on eels because they have electric. Electric power. Why? Why does this have electric power and not me as a fish? We live in the same world. I don't know. The eel is different than you, bro. They were just different. And it sounds stupid, but it's just the truth.

[Josh]

I get what you're saying. I totally get what you're saying.

[Jess]

It's just like the homeboy that was here the other day that. Oh, that. That spoke to one of your family members.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And that was real life. He must be born with some different in his mind that just. Just. But she just clicks for him.

[Josh]

But bro, there is also people who are faking it. There's phonies out there. And that's where it gets dicey. That's where it gets dicey. And even this guy I'm talking about, like I'm. I'm intrigued by him, but I'm not. Like, this guy's super channeling aliens.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

This guy knows it, you know?

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And I'm not saying he's right either. I'm just saying there might be some sometimes humans in this world that just are a little bit more, I don't know. How to explain it? Their energy, they're, they're, they're waves.

[Josh]

I think you're right.

[Jess]

Their wavelengths are just higher than yours.

[Josh]

All right, maybe not mine, but, you know, I get it. There is this thing that I remember reading about how people don't really see ghosts anymore. And it's because like the day and age that we live in, with like technology and stuff, we're like kind of distracted. But like back in the days you would hear all these like crazy horror stories. And most of the movies that you see that are horror films, they're take place like, like way back when, when there wasn't technology because people were able to be more present.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So when they're sitting there at night, you know, and they're like walk watching, they're like really observing everything and they're just more like self aware. They're just more in tune with the earth.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know, and I think that's kind of crazy too, because I'm like, bro, as soon as I have a little bit of anxiety, I'm on my phone, I'm on Tick Tock, on Kashi. Everything I got.

[Jess]

Exactly. Humans nowadays, we don't really care about that anymore. We don't. And that's the sad thing. You know, you go back to the. I always say this, but like when I went to Teotihuac and they talk about like those days and everything's so spiritual. It's because we don't have any of this. We don't have nothing. We don't have anything. All we do is we believe in our, our, our soul and, and we were very in tuned and we have no phones and we speak like actual. I mean, you would think that, you know, you, you would think that the things that, I mean, they don't have flat screen TVs and they don't have phones and you know, people, I don't know, people like back in the day, I don't know, 1,002, 5,000 years ago, you know, and we're out here, you know, we're very spiritual. You might think, oh, well, they must have been dumber than us. I don't think that's necessarily it. I think those people would have sometimes even more intelligent conversations than what we have.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Honestly, I swear to God for sure. So it's like I just. Because they don't have iPhones back then, that doesn't make them like unintelligent. You know what I mean? It's whatever they had, whatever they had to work with, but they were still Very intelligent people. And they would be more one with themselves, more spiritual. They would discover things out in the wild trees, fruits, things that would grow out of the ground that would maybe make you feel some certain type of way or that's what I'm saying. Like medicina, like herbal medicine. Yeah, like that's why it comes from like thousands of years ago, because of people like that who start up, who, who now they pass away and, and they share with their family, you know what I mean? So it's like nobody's doing that anymore. People are just with chemicals and what's

[Josh]

crazy to me, and I would never do this, but like, I am intrigued by like DMT and these kind of like, what is called ayahuasca and stuff where people have like these crazy trip outs. And like, people have explained it as like, it's not just your mind reacting, it's like you're literally jumping into another universe or another whatever, you know, and that, that is so fucking crazy to me.

[Jess]

Oh, I know that we have the

[Josh]

access to like potentially do that, but. And also, like, we have 8 billion people on this earth and like, we don't even know. Like, nobody can figure it out. Like we don't know. We can't figure out death. We have no idea what happens after. But there's all these like, you know, speculations and theories and people have like studied death and stuff like that. But I'm like, we don't fucking know until you know know. And only you will know when you know. And that's also really scary.

[Jess]

Yeah, it's extremely scary, bro. I would definitely do DMT, but.

[Josh]

You would? I would wait till I'm like 60.

[Jess]

Yeah, that, that part, that part. But I wouldn't also do it because, like, I've heard so many stories that like, you do it. Some people do it once, have a great experience, they might have a bad run, but then there's some people that they do it, they're never the same anymore, bro. There's a DMT story that I remember very clearly. I remember this was the time when ASAP Rocky was coming up, like Purple Swag, you know, that time. And like, I just remember vividly around that time because my friends were doing it. But there was a guy I knew and he did DMT and he did dmt, right? Yeah, dmt. And he said that he did DMT as however old he was. He wasn't that old, but he did DMT and he said that he, he lived his life like that's it.

[Josh]

Oh yeah, I heard this.

[Jess]

He lived his life.

[Guest D]

He.

[Jess]

He married, kids, got married, kids grew old, and then he woke up and then he was just back to himself, bro. That life that was over.

[Josh]

Exist 20 minutes or not even, huh?

[Jess]

It was like. It was like five minutes, bro. He lived the whole ass life, bro.

[Josh]

You ever have dreams like that? I have dreams like that all the time.

[Jess]

My whole ass life.

[Josh]

Yeah, I have dreams where I'm, like, living, like, a week. Like, I'm coming on the show, doing a podcast. This is a dream. You're coming on the show on the

[Jess]

show, like, on your computer screen?

[Josh]

No, I'm coming on the show, like, la platica. Like, I'm living out my day.

[Jess]

Got it?

[Josh]

Yeah, dude.

[Jess]

Yeah. No, not weeks. I've had.

[Josh]

No, I've had days, bro. I've had days. Have you guys not. No, never had days. That's wild, bro.

[Jess]

One time.

[Josh]

I'm not even joking. I've had days. I'm not. Maybe not a week.

[Jess]

I've had a day. Damn. No, one time I had a full ass day and I was just dabbing

[Josh]

it, just blazing it.

[Jess]

No, not like that. Like, I remember I went to sleep, my dream started like this. What the. For a whole day. And then I woke up. That was my dream. Damn crazy dream.

[Josh]

You know what's the worst feeling? Like, when you, like, somebody, like, your dream, like, somebody dies, and it's like somebody you're close to and you have to call them, like, the next day. And it's always, like, for me, for whatever reason, my abuelita always dreams that I die. I get a call from her at least. Like, I don't like that. Every three years, like, my mom's like, grandma's crying. She needs to make sure you're okay. And, like, you know, I'll call her, and she's, like, weeping, and she's like, I just had terrible dream.

[Jess]

I don't like this conversation. No, honestly. No, no, no, no, I get it. But still.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jess]

Be careful.

[Josh]

Have you ever had a dream that somebody died?

[Jess]

Not me, but I know people that. That have.

[Josh]

That they have for sure.

[Jess]

I've seen, like, people who have been dead come to my life. Like, I remember I had a dream, and I remember, like, my. I saw. I was hanging out with my grandma.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And she knew she was dead already.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah. So it sucks, man.

[Josh]

That is scary. I. This is. I don't even want to talk about this, but. But like, the artist, Oliver Tree, who recently passed, like, in the helicopter accident, which is wild. Rip to him. RP to. I mean. I mean, I. I'm such a good guy, right? Yeah. Yeah. I want to say I was a really. I. I wasn't, like, the biggest fan, but I definitely enjoyed a lot of his, like, interviews. I felt like he had a really good soul to him. His music was great, and it's just so tragic regardless, bro. Right. So sad for, like, the families and stuff. But, dude, what trips me out is, like, a lot of the stuff, like, leading up to his death, like. Like, he was on podcasts and saying certain things, and it just, like, you kind of, like, trip out. You're, like. Almost like he had, like, an intuition, but, like, didn't really. Wasn't, like, talking like that.

[Jess]

But.

[Josh]

So I like to really be careful, too, on, like, how you speak, because you just never know, you know?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it.

[Jess]

Rest in peace.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

God, like, I think, like, five people died in Brazil in that week. Do you see the girl from that

[Josh]

bungee jumped about that? Did we not.

[Guest D]

Yeah, no, I don't think we talk about the bungee jump jump, bro.

[Jess]

She bungee jumped, and the bungee wasn't on her, and she just fell to her death, bro.

[Josh]

Well, you know. No, bro, she wasn't even dead. She didn't die immediately on impact. There was a nurse that was by her, and she couldn't talk to her. She was like. She even said a quote, like, nobody dies on my shift. And she's like, we're gonna make sure you, like, survive. And then, like, she ended up passing away, like, in the ambulance and stuff. But she was. She was responsive. I heard that she was responsive, but

[Jess]

I mean, that fell. I mean, that fall was her death, bro.

[Josh]

That was insane. That's.

[Jess]

I know. She was so young. She's very pretty, too, bro.

[Josh]

I. I don't know. I. Have you ever bungee jump before?

[Guest D]

No.

[Jess]

For what?

[Josh]

Yeah, I did it when I was, like, 22. And it's like, okay, I've done it. Like, I'm never gonna do it again. I've survived, like. And I was like, kind of like, you know, thank God. But I just, like, don't do, like, that. Like, just don't. You know what I mean? Don't bungee jump, don't skydive, don't go on helicopters. It's like, these are just things that, like, the possibility of death is, like, it's not zero.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know, like, it's.

[Jess]

It's. There's a chance, like, I've skydived before. It's super wonderful. I love that it Was over Hawaii, where they filmed Jurassic Park.

[Josh]

No, I skydived twice.

[Jess]

Sick. After that, I was like, I don't need to do this no more.

[Josh]

Don't need to do it.

[Jess]

I've gone on air balloons. Air balloons. Air air balloons. Hot air balloons. Air balloons. Hot air balloons. And that was cool.

[Josh]

Yeah, Those are dangerous, too.

[Jess]

Those are super dangerous. And I'm like, damn, I don't know if I would do that again, but, like, Loki, I would. But, like, why don't we have parachutes? Because, like, if somebody. Something happens, like, you're.

[Josh]

Yeah, you're. And you're high, Right.

[Jess]

Why did I say that? Like Mickey Mouse.

[Josh]

How high are you and how high do you go on right now?

[Jess]

I just smoked a joint.

[Josh]

Oh, we know, dude.

[Jess]

No, no, I don't smoke, by the way. Yeah. There's a lot of things that I would not bungee jump, and I. I find it so fascinating when people bungee jump off cliffs. No, I'm sorry.

[Guest Jess]

Off. Off.

[Jess]

Off bridges.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Because with the bridge, I saw this guy bungee jump, and he just flew left, goes to the right, hits the wall, and he's on. He's unconscious.

[Guest D]

There's a. There's a new series, I think. Well, a show on Netflix about BASE jumping of these people who go gliding. And the people that the documentary starts with aren't the people it ends with. With. And they have this thing where every year they take a group photo, and there's always someone who didn't make it the next year.

[Josh]

Wait, I'm so sorry, bro. Can you say this one more time?

[Jess]

That's crazy.

[Guest D]

There's a new documentary on Netflix that's about those BASE jumpers who, like, they fly.

[Josh]

Like the squirrel ones. Oh, my God.

[Guest D]

Yeah, those.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Guest D]

And they. Every year, like, they all take a group picture, and every year, there's never the same person. And that documentary starts with. It ends with. With other people.

[Josh]

Oh, like, brand new set. Yeah, a brand new set of people. Yeah, because you're, like, almost. You're gonna die.

[Guest D]

You're.

[Josh]

Yeah, like you're. You're heading. Yeah.

[Jess]

I think it's called Fly, for example.

[Josh]

I want to watch that.

[Guest D]

Is it good? I haven't heard.

[Jess]

I saw it on Netflix, for example. You look at these guys, right, and you think to yourself, why would they do that? You know, they were born with something different than you. They feed off adrenaline, These humans.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

They make these choices because their brain works differently than yours.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And mine. And everybody who doesn't think that they're the Same as them. And, you know, you can't blame them, but that's just the reality. You know what I mean? It's like dogs. Some dogs, they're mean. Yeah, they did that. They don't want to be like that. I mean, maybe they do because it's embedded in their brain. Some dogs are meaner than others. Especially some sort of breed is a little bit more rougher.

[Josh]

That's true, bro.

[Jess]

So, like, humans, animals, species, we're not all the same. We work differently. These guys, they can't sit down in a week and say, oh, I didn't do anything crazy like that. I. They live off this, bro.

[Josh]

For sure. For sure. So we'll never understand that.

[Jess]

We'll never understand. Only them, you know, and they think it's normal, which it is, because that is life. Life is. Some people are over here, some people over here, some people over here.

[Josh]

It's. It's interesting thing, because I think it's important to, like, get out of your comfort zone and do things that scare you, because that's how you grow as a person.

[Guest Jess]

Sure.

[Josh]

There's, like, boundaries to that, you know?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

In my mind, he might not think that. I don't mean that.

[Jess]

Yeah, right.

[Josh]

I mean, like, if you're afraid to, like, public speak, like, go out and public speak, like, get out of that comfort zone of you that you have, you know? But, yeah, it's crazy how some people are just like. Like that, bro. They're just like.

[Jess]

Yeah. In the beginning of this podcast, we were like, can we talk about that with Jess? Can we or. No?

[Josh]

It's up to Jess.

[Jess]

It's up to Jess, because I didn't

[Josh]

have a choice on mine.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Jess]

If she says no, then we're cutting all this on. This is, like, nothing.

[Josh]

This is a perfect way to end the podcast, Jess. So say yes.

[Guest Jess]

Sure. Yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Guest D]

All right.

[Josh]

So, Jess, tell us. Tell. Tell everybody. Tell all. Everybody who's listening right now. Hello, everybody. What you told us before we started filming. What do you have coming up? Or you just.

[Guest Jess]

I just did it yesterday. I got Botox for the first time ever.

[Guest D]

Wow.

[Josh]

Give it up for chest, everybody. Give it up for chest.

[Guest Jess]

No, because I do feel really grown, like, having gotten bow tie. Really? I feel like a very adult.

[Josh]

I'm not going to lie. That's slightly surprising. Not because I. I felt like you had Botox, but, like, that you're older and you're doing it so, like, late, like, kind of. You're kind of laying the game.

[Guest Jess]

I mean, I don't really have wrinkles.

[Josh]

You don't.

[Guest Jess]

Even if I raise my eyebrows, like, I don't really. So it's more preventive, I guess.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Which.

[Jess]

That's what it is. It should be that.

[Guest Jess]

That the. The only wrinkle that I really have is my smile line, because I like smile a lot. But. But yeah, I'm, like, a little bit self conscious about my upper lips, so I did the lip flip. Oh, okay. So when I smile, it's not gonna go up as high.

[Josh]

Yeah. So it's like less gums.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Oh.

[Guest Jess]

So that was, like, my main concern. And then we did, like, my forehead the 11th. Yeah, yeah. Which, like, again, like.

[Jess]

Shut up.

[Josh]

Your elevens.

[Guest Jess]

Yep.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Guest Jess]

Which, like, again, like, I don't really barely. Like, they're barely starting to like, nothing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Guest Jess]

So. So, yeah, we'll see.

[Jess]

Wait, why two weeks?

[Guest Jess]

Because I did it yesterday.

[Jess]

Oh.

[Josh]

Like, for her to see the results.

[Guest Jess]

Two weeks to kick in for Botox. Yeah.

[Jess]

Nah, you should. You'll feel that three, four days sooner,

[Josh]

but until it's, like, fully settled in, it's two weeks, bro.

[Jess]

Really?

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Common knowledge, bro.

[Jess]

Are you gonna follow up? Damn. Okay. None of that.

[Guest Jess]

That's my first time. Oh, yeah.

[Jess]

Oh, got it.

[Josh]

Did it hurt?

[Guest Jess]

A little bit. The lip did hurt. And, like, she literally did it right above, like, at the lip line.

[Jess]

And I was like, yeah, my fast. Mine hurts, like, in the corners of my skull right here on my forehead. It's really thin there, so I almost feel like he's injecting my actual skull.

[Josh]

I feel like that too, sometimes. But I'm not.

[Jess]

No, they're not, obviously. But yeah, it's. Doesn't hurt that bad.

[Josh]

No, no, no, no. I. I'm. You're gonna love it.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Josh]

This is not me suggesting Botox to anybody. Like, do whatever makes you happy.

[Jess]

I suggest Botox.

[Josh]

No, but I'm not saying, like, I'm not forcing it on people. Like, you have to do Botox, you know, do it if you should.

[Jess]

Yeah, it's preventative, bro.

[Josh]

Yeah, if.

[Guest D]

If. If.

[Jess]

If you want.

[Josh]

I'll be honest, I don't know all the research behind it. Like, people saying that it's, like, toxic and stuff like that. I don't really care to do the research because I love the results, you know, but that's why I'm not one to be like, everybody, go do Botox. Because I don't know what the real.

[Guest Jess]

I kind of do. So, like, that's why I was kind of scared. I also know that like if they inject you in like a nerve, you could go blind.

[Josh]

You could bruising.

[Guest Jess]

So many things, so many things happen. So I'm not gonna lie, that's what like I was freaking out the most about. But it's the, the, I don't know the exact like, scientific name for it, but it's the same botulism bacteria, like differently. And obviously like they treat it to apply it safely. Yeah, but botulism is like if you eat specific types of like spoiled foods. For example, if you buy like a canned food product and it's kind of like inflatable, like the metal, you know what I mean? It's not sealed. And like it's like, yes, if it's expanded that you can't eat whatever's in there. Right. Like it's gone bad. And usually the bacteria that's in there is called botulism. And let's say you don't know this and you consume it. That bacteria like freezes, paralyzes your muscles, your intestines, everything. You die. There's no cure. So like, knowing that and be like, I'm really about to give this.

[Josh]

And that's what they, that is what's part of Botox.

[Jess]

Yes, Botox, Botulism, like it pairs your muscles.

[Guest Jess]

Yes. It freezes your muscles. So like. Yeah, it paralyzes them so that you can't move. And again, if you, if you consume that and you ingest it and it's in your body, like it can kill

[Josh]

you, but they're doing like very micro dosages of it in Botox.

[Guest Jess]

Exactly. And you're not consuming, like it's not going into your system. It's just staying, it's very localized and it's like again, treat. I don't know how they treat it or what they process it to make it different, to like make it safe. But again, because as someone with limited knowledge, as such, like, I, it did kind of like freak me out a little.

[Josh]

Yeah, no, for sure. I've heard stuff like this. So I just haven't fully like educated myself on it. But I'm like, like, okay, I can, I'll take the chance though. You know what I mean? But.

[Jess]

Been taking a chance.

[Josh]

But, but to people like, you know, it's not a risk free thing. Like, nothing is not. You know what I mean? Like you.

[Jess]

Yeah, like, you can't guarantee I got latex. I risking being blind for the rest of my life.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And some people go blind off of like off of doing Lasik. That's the truth, bro.

[Jess]

Did I say latex or Lasix?

[Josh]

You said latex, but I got what you meant.

[Jess]

Oh, my God. I did. Huh? Lasik, fool. Lasik Foo. Yeah, I got Lasik. And there's money. People say, like, yeah, but doesn't your. Your eyesight change in, like, five years? I'll do it again. Is that worth it? To me, it's so nice.

[Josh]

Like, I haven't done it, but I agree.

[Jess]

Yeah. Like, to. To. What was the other thing that somebody said? Like, yeah, I'll do it again, too. I forgot.

[Josh]

But yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah, so it's crazy, man.

[Josh]

We live in a world now where there's so many ways to. Like, you're like, we're biohacking. Like, we're biohacking our eyes with peptides. There's crazy things you can do now. It's only gonna get insane, bro. We're gonna, like. I think our life expectancy is going to just continue to grow. I don't think, like, we'll ever be able to, like, live forever. Like, and first of all, I don't even want to live forever. Like, that's crazy to me. But you wouldn't. Forever.

[Guest Jess]

Forever.

[Jess]

Forever.

[Josh]

Are you guys on the forever vibe? No, no. What's the longest you'd want to live?

[Jess]

Yeah, but I'm not saying, like, like, forever as in, like, you stay, like, 35.

[Josh]

No, you age.

[Jess]

No, I know, I know, but I'm saying differently. Slowly, you age slowly.

[Guest D]

Like, yo.

[Jess]

Slowly, you'll be 35. Slowlier, you'll be 35 for, like, 30 years.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's.

[Jess]

Something like that.

[Josh]

That's good.

[Jess]

And then the next 36, you'll be, like, for, like, you know. Yeah, 31 years.

[Josh]

Right.

[Jess]

Or less.

[Josh]

Right.

[Jess]

Have you seen that, that, that. That movie with Justin Timberlake where money is time?

[Josh]

Yeah, they have, like, the little time.

[Jess]

Oh, such a good movie.

[Josh]

It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Jess]

Yeah. I can't wait to see your results.

[Guest Jess]

Thanks. Me too. I'm excited. We'll see. The. The nurse practitioner was like, okay, we can also do this, we can also do that. And I was like, let's just.

[Jess]

Yeah, like, here, let me see how

[Guest Jess]

I feel and then I'll come back.

[Jess]

Yeah, I've had Botox where, like, I. I'm really picky now, like, because I like to more like a natural look because I've seen myself on camera and I don't like it. I don't like doing it, like, kind of, like, regularly. I kind of, like, dim it down a little bit. I only tell them like, just do this, this and like, they know, you know, because like, if you kind of do go overboard, like, you're like, eyebrows would be like lifted the whole time.

[Josh]

Yeah, you could definitely go overboard.

[Jess]

And I'm like, I don't. I don't like that. I like to like, look natural.

[Guest D]

I.

[Jess]

Even when I was first getting into it, I told the doc, I was like, look, I don't mind looking. Wrinkly little movement. Like, I love my masculine wrinkles and shit like that. But if we can just tone it down a bit. Just so like it's like a forehead wrinkles. I don't give a fuck. I'll live with that. It's more this, like, this is where I kind of go.

[Josh]

And what is it called? The widow's crow. Crow's feet.

[Guest D]

Feet.

[Jess]

Yeah, but crow's feet, like, if you go like this, that's not crow's fit.

[Guest D]

Straight.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's.

[Jess]

If you go like this and you're. And you're resting and you still have them, then you have crow's feet. This. Obviously anybody can do that.

[Josh]

Yeah, but sometimes those lines, when you do smile, like they're more prominent.

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

[Josh]

So when you do the Botox there, it kind of eliminates that.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So it's not so like. Yeah, yeah, I think it's great. Are you up next, though? How old are you?

[Guest D]

28.

[Josh]

Oh, no. You got time. Don't do it yet. Don't do it yet. It's crazy when there's people who start young.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Teach their own, I guess. But don't just wait. Yeah, I got you, bro.

[Jess]

Like right here.

[Guest D]

The only thing.

[Josh]

The 11s.

[Guest D]

Yeah, the 11s.

[Jess]

Just set up a whole ass appointment just to the doctor. Just one dot right here. Leave.

[Josh]

Just shoot me one right here. All right, cool. Great episode, man.

[Jess]

That is it. Be a Mexico.

[Josh]

That's right, baby.

[Jess]

And whoever else you're cheering for. Ecuador just did. Amazing.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Jess]

I should have bet on them on Kelshi.

[Josh]

Me too.

[Guest Jess]

Colombia.

[Jess]

Colombia. Shout out. Colombia. Shout out. All my Spaniards out there. Shout out to las Brasilanias. Los Brasilinos out there. Portugal, Uruguay, everybody. Honestly, that's why I love watching the World Cup. He's like watching all Latino teams playing. It's like, yes. Beat their ass.

[Guest D]

Yeah.

[Jess]

All right. Yeah. Is this is still available on the site?

[Josh]

It is still available, of course. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Jess]

They can. I think it's La Platica straight out.

[Josh]

It's just La Platica.

[Guest Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Okay, cool. Yeah. Dot com INPUT in put the code la platica, and you guys get 10 off your taste. Aleuth purchase.

[Jess]

Yeah. We'll see you guys soon.

[Josh]

Love you guys. Thank you so much.

[Jess]

See you next week. See you next week. Hey, by the way, look at my Mexico Jersey. Whoa.

[Josh]

Number 19, it.