“I Feel Like I’m a K*ller” 😳 Sebas’s Crazy Confession

Summary

LA PLATICA Episode Summary

Podcast: LA PLATICA
Hosts: Sebastian “Sebas” Robles & Josh Leyva
Episode: “I Feel Like I’m a K*ller” 😳 Sebas’s Crazy Confession
Date: November 17, 2025
Theme: The hosts share candid reflections on youth, masculinity, personal growth, internet culture, relationships, and unique vulnerabilities men face—sprinkled with humor and real talk.

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Main Theme & Vibe

Sebas and Josh create a chill, confessional, and at times hilarious space to share personal growth lessons, life regrets, male vulnerability, and evolving as Latino men in a landscape shaped by influencer culture. The episode jumps between playful banter, in-depth soul searching, and funny takes on internet rumors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Aging, Slang, and Generational Relatability

• The guys riff on feeling “unk-ish” (like uncles), noticing they talk and dress in ways “the kids” might find dated.
• [01:35] Josh: “I've realized now in my life I have to be careful of what I say. ‘Cuz I'm starting to act like that old unk.”
• Sebas points out their audience is mostly their own age, so they “can still talk like that here.”
• Discussion of “phone head” and headphone hair days, joking about millennial habits.

2. Haircare and Curly vs. Straight Hair Realities

• Long segment on hair routines and identity.
• Sebas claims he’s put “10,000 hours” into perfecting his hair:
  [04:04] “I'm so seasoned... I think I have done my hair for 10,000 hours.”
• Josh and guest Jess talk about the work involved with curly hair—“it’s literally every day.”
• Josh: “Curly hair is... the hardest type of hair to kind of manage, but in reality, it's everyone's dream hair because you can manipulate it to do anything that you want.” [08:02]
• Friendly envy of people with “good curls.”

3. Food Preferences & Picky Eaters

• Ranking the best fried sides (curly fries vs. waffle fries vs. onion rings vs. “the king” McDonald's fries).
• Pedro (recurring friend) gets called out for being a picky eater, especially around new foods and seafood.
• Jokes about traveling, trying mussels for the first time, and expectations for “white coat, gloves” food service.
  [12:08] Sebas: “The motherfucker who just dropped off these mussels was wearing a white coat with gloves... it’s gonna be good, bro.”

4. “Is a Fish an Animal?”—Stoner Debate Territory

• The group debates if fish are animals, struggling with the weirdness of calling fish “animals” and reflecting on how odd it is to keep fish as pets.
  [13:41] “Let’s just go around the room... Jess, is an animal a fish?”
• Commentary on the ethics of keeping fish in small tanks (“I feel like if I had a fish tank it would have to wrap around my whole house.”) [14:54]

5. Dreams, Violence, and Vulnerability

• Josh describes his recurring anxiety dreams where he can’t land a strong punch while fighting.
  [16:37] “Do you ever have dreams where you’re trying to kick someone’s ass and... it’s just the softest punches?”
• Sebas confesses he’s never been in a real fight—by conscious choice:
  [17:10] “If I get really upset... it scares me to be that person. And I feel like I’d see red and... I feel like I would kill somebody.”
• Sebas worries his self-control might break in a violent situation, fearing accidental tragic consequences, which is met with supportive and slightly shocked responses from Josh.
  [17:45] “Yeah, I always think that, that's why I don't ever fight. ‘Cuz I feel like I'm a killer.”
• Both agree real violence isn’t something they want to witness and are shaped by online exposure to graphic content.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Josh (on fighting in real life) [17:10]:
  “I've never been in a real fight... If I get really upset... it scares me. I feel like I would kill somebody.”
• Sebas (on living regret) [42:04]:
  “I literally wasted my life, bro. All I did was just work, check to check, and spend it that weekend and go out... None of it actually matters.”
• Sebas (on relationships) [43:15]:
  “I think it'd be really pretty to see my beginning years with my wife Karen... The beginning of my relationship, that's like my puppy stage. That's why it's called love.”
• Josh (on learning and life) [35:18]:
  “I feel like I learned more out of high school through life experiences than you do in school.”
• Sebas (on work and fulfillment) [49:46]:
  “If you just keep loving that thing and keep on doing it, I think you’ll figure out a way to make or monetize from it.”
• Sebas (on Karen’s work ethic) [46:04]:
  “She creates her own path... She’s one of the first beauty influencers to start combining running and being athletic with beauty... She just does it well.”

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6. Myth Busting: Spiders and Sleep

• The classic “You swallow 7 spiders in your sleep” is debunked live.
• Jess: “You eat zero bugs in your sleep” [22:48]
• Josh was “fully convinced” it was true—a relatable internet myth moment.
• They tie this into “Mandela effect” glitches and pop culture mis-memories.

7. Life Choices, Regrets & Second Chances

• Extended reflection on high school/college regrets and the butterfly effect.
• Both guys consider what age they’d return to if given one year to relive:
  • Sebas: senior year of high school, to be more outgoing and seize opportunities.
  • Josh: early 20s, “beginning of trying,” chasing his dream uncertainly.
• Discussion how being more proactive then could’ve changed their lives—but recognizing that those experiences made them who they are.
• Jess brings up how tiny changes would totally rearrange reality—"you might not have met Karen" (Sebas's wife) if things were different.

8. Advice for Young Listeners & Making It Without College

• Both hosts admit to struggling in school and barely graduating; Sebas shares an untold, tragic past relationship affecting his academics (but stays respectful and vague for privacy).
• Message: Success is a mix of relationships, seizing opportunities, and not being defined by formal education.
• Sebas: “Don’t go to college just to make your mom happy; go with a plan.” [38:19]
• College is valuable for connections/clubs more than content.

9. Celebrating Partners and the Influencer Grind

• Sebas shares admiration for his wife Karen, how her career evolved from passion, and how authenticity and work ethic defined her path.
• “She’s always been like that... She makes her own path, bro.” [48:15]
• Both agree there are “no blueprints” for success—especially in new industries like beauty influencing.

10. Dream Jobs & Living the Bucket List

• Sebas recently guest-hosted on Power106 radio—calling it a bucket list experience.
• He always dreamed of a job in communication/entertainment, and despite leaving formal education, the path circled back via podcasting/influencing.
• Admiration for Ryan Seacrest as the radio+TV example who “loves what he does”—legacy of “loving the craft.”

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Key Timestamps & Segments

• 01:15–02:50 — Hosts riff on generational slang, “feel like old unks”
• 03:49–08:30 — Deep dive: haircare routines and curly/straight hair struggles
• 09:03–12:30 — Curly fries v. waffle fries debate, Pedro’s pickiness, mussels in Seattle
• 13:02–14:54 — Stoner question: “Is a fish an animal?” and fish as pets
• 16:08–17:52 — Anxiety dreams, violence, and Sebas’s “killer” confession
• 19:00–20:19 — Phone etiquette: when to use Do Not Disturb
• 24:43–26:58 — Gift-giving, “ugly hot” vs “hot ugly,” body type attractiveness
• 27:45–28:13 — What body part do women find hottest on men (back vs chest)?
• 29:44–38:24 — School struggles, college regrets, pivotal early adulthood
• 42:04–44:14 — Sebas on wasted years, reliving youth, relationships
• 45:00–48:47 — Karen’s career, no influencer blueprint, hybrid athletic/beauty content
• 52:03–54:28 — Sebas on Power106, radio dreams, perspective on “making it”
• 55:13–56:10 — Admiration for Ryan Seacrest, real love for the craft

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Takeaways & Core Messages

• Being Real Men = Being Honest & Vulnerable: The hosts model emotional honesty and a rejection of machismo stereotypes—fear of violence, admitting regrets, discussing self-doubt.
• No Blueprint for Success: Instead, focus on authenticity, consistency, and making meaningful connections—especially if you don’t “fit the system.”
• Relationships Matter: With partners, with friends, with your community—these ties often mean more than credentials.
• Life Isn’t Linear: The guys have found success by evolving, sometimes failing, and always staying curious—so don’t stress if your path isn’t “by the book.”

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Summary for New Listeners

If you’ve never listened to LA PLATICA, this episode is a perfect entrypoint: it’s equal parts hilarious, nostalgic, and thoughtful. You’ll hear honest stories of immigration, ambition, love, and late-night stoner debates—tied together with the hosts’ unique blend of heart and humor.

Don’t miss:

• Sebas’s surprisingly raw “killer confession” about why he avoids fights ([17:10–17:52])
• Real talk about internet myths, the meaning of college, and ugly/hot attraction
• The story behind Karen’s influencer journey and what it means to “have no blueprint”

Quote to carry with you:
"If you just keep loving that thing and keep on doing it, I think you’ll figure out a way to make or monetize from it.” —Sebas [49:46]

Transcript

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Let me be honest.

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Every guest is a privilege.

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Do we want to go there?

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Get jolly. Cuz I'm on a podcast with Josh Laver. Hell yeah. You have too, mother.

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Ladies and gentlemen, let me just tell you I got head on my phones. Don't call me a phone head.

[B]

You don't. Don't. You can't say that. That's like super millennial.

[A]

Did I just date?

[B]

I. I've realized that now in my life I have to be careful of what I say. Cuz I'm starting. I'm starting to act like that old unk.

[A]

You feel. You feel like you're unifying it.

[B]

Yeah.

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Which is the voice isn't helping.

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I shouldn't care.

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Can you turn me down the headphones real quick? Lattice just cut you off. Don't care on some on. There you go. No, a little loud. That's good. That's fine.

[B]

Oh, shut the. Yeah, I've been noticing that sometimes I talk and people don't know know what I say anymore.

[A]

You're talking to the wrong people.

[B]

Yeah, you're right.

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You get what I'm saying?

[B]

You're right. I think I. I think I can still talk like that here. Yeah.

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I feel like we have most of our, like, listeners. Like our. Our.

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Our.

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Our. Our age.

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Our. Our age.

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Or our age.

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Yeah.

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Our. Our age.

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Our.

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Our age. Yeah. No, it's our. Our age. Our.

[A]

Our age.

[B]

My voice has been gone since the show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the day after we. I went out again, and then we did through that corner. If you haven't seen that video, I think it's out now, right?

[A]

It came out yesterday.

[B]

Yeah.

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Great episode.

[B]

I had to do that. My voice was even worse.

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Yeah.

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So I apologize for.

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We were kind of unk. Ish on that epis.

[B]

We were a little unish time. We had a great time. We did shout out to them. Shout. Go follow them.

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Yeah. If you guys are not subscribed to tcc. Tcc, I don't know your life. Yo. Honestly, we had an incredible podcast with them and we got vulnerable. If you kind of. It's a long podcast, but if you dare to stick around to the very end, I think you're going to see a different side that maybe they haven't really shown on their podcast. I know that there's a. There's like a moment having kind of multiple times that definitely has not been shown on their podcast.

[B]

Yeah. We made Eddie cry.

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Oh, you just give it away.

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I know.

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But you have to go tune in and find out if shed a tear. If he actually did shed a tear.

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Yeah.

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Hold on. Before we go into this, I want to say something. I'm going to do my headphones like this for this episode. Okay. I probably look uncish, but I don't want to mess up my hair because I'm having a good hair day. And at least I'm feeling like I'm having a good hair day.

[B]

It looks the same. No, no.

[A]

Okay, well, no, it doesn't.

[B]

Okay, it does.

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No, no, it doesn't.

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Your hair never changes.

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That's actually a good thing. Cuz I perfected my hair. I know what it takes to have a good hair day.

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Every single mold that you do, it's always the same. You didn't do the. The super.

[A]

No, I didn't supify it. But look, I have gotten to my. Like, I'm so seasoned. You know, they say that it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert of something. I think I have done my hair for 10,000 hours because immediately, once I blow dry my hair and it's set in place. Yeah.

[B]

I was about to ask Jess how much is at 10000 hours. 400. Oh yeah. You got that?

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400. 600 minutes.

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Yeah. Did you tell them that this episode is sponsored by Sea Geek, the one and only ticketing app that's cool.

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Yeah.

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That we use.

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No. You're right. It really is. Like you said nothing wrong.

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Right? Yeah. No, I didn't.

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Can you tell with like your hair, like if it's gonna be a good hair day? You are kind of at the point when you slick back your hair. It's already like you kind of are in control fully.

[B]

Yeah. It's now to the point where and maybe like the girls watching this can relate. Like my hair has to be somewhat damp.

[A]

Damp. Okay.

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In order for me to like slick it back properly the way that I want it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Once my hair dries out too much it's almost like I almost have to jump in the shower again and kind of get back to that process. And this is especially for all the. The curly haired chicks out there. Yeah. So you guys can relate. And the. The curly haired boily Pop.

[A]

I used to be the type of guy that I would use a lot of product.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like I would do. I would do sea salt spray. Sometimes I would do texture powder. And then I would do a pomade on top of blow drying my hair. And I've learned as I've gotten older that, you know, sometimes less is more.

[B]

Jesus.

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These headphones. I don't want to mess up my hair, bro. Okay. Look. Sometimes less is more. Do I look ridiculous?

[B]

Yeah. No, you look cool. You look like a rapper. Yeah.

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Listen.

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Yeah.

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I'm gonna do the OT style. So for me, what I do shower. I always have to shower if I'm gonna do my hair. I cannot just do my hair.

[B]

Yeah.

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Shower.

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You need to go through shampoo and conditioner.

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I don't even condition, bro. I just.

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I'll just.

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If I'm gonna do my hair.

[B]

What?

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First of all, I don't condition every time I shower.

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

Yes. Because you know what that does? You know what that does for me? This is how I know I'm 10,000 hours experience in my hair. Because it's drier. So it creates more volume because when it's too conditioned it's a little more flat. And I don't get that volume that I like. But when it's dry I get that. That volume.

[B]

I can't relate. I'm curly haired and we got. I. I need it. I need less volume for curly hair.

[C]

We definitely need it to be like to condition. No, no, no. Well, yes, to condition it. But also, it needs to be like. Like, I have to use the spritzer to get it wet. Like, I just got out of the shower to be able to style it, even if I want to, like, refresh them. Like, you always got to use water again to, like, go through the whole thing.

[A]

Does it take more effort to. Because you both have curly hair.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Does it take more effort to create the curls or to create a straighter hair like you have right now? What takes more. Because I feel like even the whole curly hair process, I'm like, that's a lot.

[C]

Honestly, I'd say probably curling it, because you gotta do it every day. You know what I mean? Whereas, like, my hair, I straighten it. Or, like, I curl it with, like, the iron and it'll last like that for a while. Like, I. And if anything, I'll need to redo my roots or whatever. Use a little, like, dry shampoo. But besides that, I could. It's so easy. This is. That's why I, like, see.

[A]

Oh, wow. Okay. So have you ever got a perm?

[B]

No, but I've gone keratin treatments. I've. Once. My hair was, like, a little shorter and curly. I did, like, a relaxer, which is like. A lot of, like. More like a lot of African Americans do, like, relaxers. Like, ethnic people do relaxers. Because it just strains out your hair a little bit. It actually strains the out of it and it leaves it like that for a while, and it's, like, permanent and. But I do keratin treatments because that'll give me a super smooth look. But I think now that I'm older and I just really embrace my.

[A]

Your locks.

[B]

My curls. Yeah.

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Yeah.

[B]

I don't. I don't need a keratin treatment. And curly hair is. It might be, like, the. The hardest type of hair to kind of manage, probably. But in reality, it's everyone's dream hair because you can manipulate it to do anything that you want.

[A]

I am envious of people with curly hair. Specifically, like, my brother Chubbs. He has curly hair. I don't know if you know that, but he keeps his too short. But he has crazy curls. And I'm like, bro, they're so hot. Like, let them, bro.

[B]

Let them.

[A]

Let them be.

[B]

Yeah. Like I told Eddie, remember last time, he has curly hair. And I said, bro, if you grow your hair, it'll probably look just like mine.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

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I feel like his hair might be a little more curlier than yours.

[B]

Yeah, his hair is really curly.

[A]

Yeah. Like, look like the second photo right there of that dude. Like, imagine that was Eddie.

[B]

I think that can be Eddie.

[A]

That could be Eddie right there.

[B]

Yeah. He has crazy curly, Like a curly fry.

[A]

But that's. I love a good curly fry, bro.

[B]

Man.

[A]

Okay, here we go. Ready? Curly fry, regular fry, onion rings.

[B]

Okay, hold on.

[A]

One more, one more. The ones that like chick fil A. What are they called?

[B]

The waffle. Waffle fries.

[A]

Waffle fries?

[B]

Yeah. Can I ask you just one thing?

[A]

Absolutely not.

[B]

The French fry, where is it from? Are we just talking generic? Like, just French fries in general?

[A]

Like a McDonald's french fry. Like your standard solid delicious.

[B]

Because to me, McDonald's has really good French.

[A]

No, they have top tier.

[B]

Yeah, I, I okay, it.

[A]

Sometimes I hit, I hit you with those hard hitting questions, my boy.

[B]

I'm gonna have to go with curly.

[A]

Fry as number one.

[B]

As number one.

[A]

That's your goat?

[B]

Yes, with buttermilk ranch. Super good.

[A]

That's your goat, though.

[B]

And then second, I have to give it to the king of French Fries, which is McDonald's. And then I would have to go waffle fry. What was the other one?

[A]

What else did I say? No, regular fry. Onion.

[B]

Onion rings are good.

[A]

Are they considered fries?

[B]

No, no, it's a, it's a side dish.

[A]

It's a side dish.

[B]

It's in the combo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're pretty funny or what? Pedro. It's always good seeing Pedro, huh? Nobody doesn't know. This is the guy that you talked on the other day. Remember?

[A]

You want to talk about you. Can you just show your face real quick to the camera so people can put it.

[B]

Just come over here and sit on my lap.

[A]

What did I say about him?

[B]

He said he doesn't like going out to eat with you.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I talked about him being a picky eater.

[B]

Yeah, he says that.

[A]

He, he said, oh, he knows. What's the thing that I hate that he said?

[B]

He said this verbatim.

[A]

I always ask, what's this? I see. I know. I don't lie. I don't lie.

[B]

Annoying ass. What are you with.

[A]

What's this?

[B]

Oh, it is what it is. And if you want to eat it, eat it. And if you don't, leave it there.

[A]

Because, look, I get it. People I feel like might be like, dude, you're being so dramatic.

[B]

Like, if you tell them what it was, what changes in his life, right? Nothing. And I'm still not gonna eat it, bro.

[A]

You've seen those videos of people, like in India where, like, it's like, disgusting. Like, you can just tell there's, like, no sanitary restrictions. Like, these fools are eating off the street and stuff like that. Like, no shade. But it's crazy, right?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, that's what we see online.

[A]

It's not like I'm taking this photo to eat, like, places like that. Like, I'm taking them to.

[B]

Where'd you take that food to? Oh, my God. You see, you walked in and I was like, oh, it's Pedro. But he's pissing me off right now.

[A]

I want to see how picky this. Where have I taken you to that? You've, like, questioned stuff. It'll be like. Like, newer restaurants kind of thing, huh?

[B]

When we had first time had muscles, I didn't know if they were.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Was this in Chicago? No, Seattle. Seattle. Seattle. He had muscles. That was the first time he's ever had muscles.

[B]

First of all, you're flying him out to Seattle first of all, just for him to. And then you're whining and dining him. I'm assuming something that's up. Up your standard, which is a great standard to be. And this sees muscles. And in his head, he's probably like, they look like oysters.

[A]

And then I said. I said to him, I was like, but they're in a different.

[B]

She.

[A]

The motherfucker who just dropped them off. And no offense to that motherfucker. Good motherfucker. That motherfucker who just dropped off these muscles was wearing a white coat with gloves on. It's gonna be good, bro. Yeah, it's gonna be good.

[B]

What do you say?

[A]

And then I went like this. I was like, it's some of these. My boy.

[B]

Nah. But in his defense, muscles is just kind of like. It's one of those things. Like, I don't get mad when people don't like oysters. Like, it's a. It's a certain food that compassive, like, you know, you don't want it. But when it comes to tomatoes and tomatoes, bro.

[A]

Yeah, that's it.

[B]

You know, I don't want to, like, call them out, but.

[A]

Do you like mussels? You probably don't, huh? Like, mussels and oysters, but in, like, in a butter, like, tomato sauce.

[B]

Can I ask you something? And I spoke about this at dinner. Oh, did I talk about this?

[A]

Yes, you did. Yesterday. Yesterday, the fish thing.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Maybe we can ask Pedro since he has all the answers.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is an animal a fish or is it just a fish?

[A]

I still can't get over the fact that you're at a beautiful dinner. And one thing about you can host. And this is the level that we're at with, like, the questions that we're presenting to the. To the people.

[B]

It's an interesting question. And, you know, it's one of those questions that I like to ask, because out of three people that you asked. Because when I asked it, it was, like, with three people. Yeah. So anybody was able to give me an answer, you'd be surprised on how different the answers.

[A]

Okay, let's just go around the room real quick, and let's answer the question. Jess, is an animal a fish?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Matt, is an animal a fish?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Pedro is an animal a fish.

[C]

Well, see, okay, that's the thing. You should have asked him first, because psychologically, since we already said one thing, he's more likely to agree with what we're saying.

[A]

All right, let me start over. Pedro is an animal.

[B]

Yeah. No, but I asked, like. Well, I mean. Yeah. Wait, I don't know. Is it. It has gills.

[A]

She.

[B]

She was, like, saying stuff like that, and it was just, like, so funny, like, everyone's reaction. But, yes, it's an animal.

[A]

Well, we talked about this on Cruda Corner, and we. We Googled it, and it is.

[B]

It's in the animal kingdom. Kingdom.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But in reality, like, fish should have its own. It's like, fish is a fish.

[A]

Yeah. It doesn't feel right calling it an animal. Is that what you're saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you ever have a goldfish? Did you have, like, fishes when you were.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I think I have one. Don't really remember it too much. Yeah, I think I probably got it out of fair. It's pretty up, if you think about it. Just goldfishes at fair, giving them out for free.

[A]

Yeah. It's like.

[B]

Yeah, I. I can't think. It's like, a hot take, and I don't know if you guys have fish. I think it's kind of up if you have fish, because you just kind.

[A]

Of keep them in a tank, like, their life and. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I'm. I don't know. I feel like if I had a fish tank, it had to wrap around my whole house.

[A]

I love a good aquarium, though. You know what I mean?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Like, if somebody has, like, a good aquatic, you know, situation, I'm like, this.

[B]

Is better if your tank is this big. I don't think that's like, you know, I feel like. But then again, like, these fish and their natural habitat, they probably get eaten, like, every other day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To this day, there's plenty of fish.

[A]

In the sea, man.

[B]

That's what they say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what else they say?

[A]

What?

[B]

Life sure is sweet.

[A]

What is that? What is the. What is the. Like the finish of that quote? Life sure is sweet. Huh? What does he say?

[B]

What?

[A]

There's a. There's a. There's an ending. He doesn't just say that. I feel like you talking about you never complete the sentence. There's. There's more to that. Is that Willy Wonka quote? No, it's a Tik Tok.

[C]

I've never heard.

[B]

I've never heard. I just thought it's life. Sure. Sweet.

[A]

I. I could have sworn it was a Tik Tok. Go to the first Tick Tock available. Right there. Just to the top, right.

[C]

It's an Instagram.

[A]

Oh, it's an Instagram. Never mind.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.

[A]

Can you just put life. Share a sweet Tick tock?

[B]

I've been broke so many times.

[C]

Is that him?

[A]

No, it's not. Is that Jack Harlow?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Bro, last night I had a dream. Sorry, I don't mean, like, I just remember this. Last night I had a dream that lasted three days. Like, I went through three days. I went through Friday, Saturday, and woke up Sunday. Yeah. And it was like I had already woken up and I went back to sleep. And I feel like my dreams are more vivid when that happens. Have you noticed that, like, you. You wake up, you kind of like, check your phone or whatever, and then you go back to sleep? You're like, I'm gonna, like, really try.

[B]

To go back to sleep.

[A]

Like, my dreams are so vivid.

[B]

Do you ever have dreams that where you're trying to kick someone's ass?

[A]

You can't.

[B]

And you. And like, you just.

[A]

Why does everybody have that same dream? Like, you're punching. You can't.

[B]

It's like. It's a. It's like you feel like you're punching them so hard, but it's just the softest punches.

[A]

What about the running, too? Like, you can't run. Like, you're like.

[B]

Yeah. Or jumping.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. No, but for some reason, I always have dreams that I'm kicking someone's ass. I don't know why, but it's just always like, these crazy soft punches.

[A]

Have you ever actually kicked somebody's ass in your dream?

[B]

Yes, but they're soft punches. So in my dream, I'm frustrated.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I've never been in a. In a. In a real fight, like, ever in my life.

[A]

Like, you and me are about to fight right now.

[B]

I want to fight. I wouldn't fight anybody. Yeah, you know what it is? I just feel like I'm the type of person that if I get really upset, in order for me to actually fight, it scares me to be that person. And I feel like I will see red and you know, this might sound crazy, but I feel like I would kill somebody.

[A]

You don't think you have. You can have the self control to just like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Or I feel like I have the type of luck that like, if I connect with somebody and I hit them in the face, they fall, they hit the curb and then they die.

[A]

That's so scary.

[B]

Yeah. I always think that that's why, like, I don't ever fight. Yeah. Because I feel like I'm a killer.

[A]

You think you kill somebody?

[B]

I don't want to.

[A]

No.

[B]

I would never want to.

[A]

You ever seen anything crazy though? Like, have you ever seen anybody get shot or stabbed or like.

[B]

Well, in real life?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I've never seen that. The only close thing gory. I mean, I've seen stuff like that on social media and stuff. Right. Like. Or whatever. But the closest thing I saw is I remember I was going to Santa Barbara and I saw a motorcycle guy on the side of the freeway and he was just like bled out. Oh, he was dead. And it like almost like just happened.

[A]

My phone's going off right now. My bad. I was rude.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Like, I'm just gonna put it on. Do not disturb dnd, my boy.

[B]

Yeah, so. Yeah, so I saw that. That was pretty. Yeah, that is easy.

[A]

That is kind of pretty.

[B]

Eye opening.

[A]

I pray that I never have to experiencing anything like that, like, gory, you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. But once the Internet was alive, we saw a lot of videos. I know.

[A]

I always kind of refrain from watching stuff like that, if I'm being honest.

[B]

Me too. It does scarred me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it does. It freaks me out.

[A]

Oh, this is a good question. Just propose. When should you put your phone on? Jesus. When should you put your phone on dnd? What's the etiquette? There's. There's a lot of people. Like my girl, she always has her phone on dnd.

[B]

I think that's smart. Honestly.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. I feel like one time for a whole week I tried it.

[A]

Peaceful.

[B]

My life was a lot peaceful. Peacefuler.

[A]

More peacefuler.

[B]

More peaceful.

[A]

Yeah, more peacefuler.

[C]

No, if you use more, you get rid of it.

[A]

You add the er.

[C]

No, you get.

[A]

You add it. You just put it in there.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

More peacefuler.

[B]

More peaceful. I'm gonna listen to Jess.

[A]

It's definitely more peace.

[B]

Yeah. And, yeah, but I think some. Anytime that you're having a conversation with anybody.

[A]

Dnd.

[B]

Well, no, not really, because you don't just, like, put your. That's kind of weird. If you just, like. Oh, hold on one second. No, dnd. You know, I think that's maybe when you're podcasting, but maybe when you're podcasting, maybe when you know you're gonna have a dinner or a lunch or a date or something like that. So maybe like, at a certain time, like after 7. 00pm DND goes, oh, that's good.

[A]

You think 7pm Is the time, but.

[B]

It'S fine because you can be on DND all day long, but you can actually tell your phone to, like, okay. These people don't put on dnd.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So if your mom calls you, if you call me, Jess calls me, my wife calls me. Those. Those text messages come.

[A]

Come through non D&D ers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I think that's the. That's the thing to do right there.

[B]

Do you ever want to do something adventurous? Do you want to do something adventurous that you haven't talked to anybody about? And what is that?

[A]

I want to get involved with more, like, nature stuff. I feel like I've been so disconnected from, like, nature. Like, go to Yosemite and, like, hike and, like, you know, kind of, like, rough it up a little bit, you know, I haven't. I don't think I've ever really done that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I haven't really connected with nature lately. I want to be a tree hugger.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like I haven't either. And I like that. And I used to do that a lot. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like my dad.

[A]

When's the last time you just, like, sat outside, just, like, kicked it?

[B]

I mean, I can't tell you last.

[A]

Time I've done that, bro.

[B]

I have a backyard, so I'll just go sit out over there. I just don't like to be in the backyard that long. Because of the mosquitoes? Yeah, they love me.

[A]

I don't get. Mosquitoes don't love me.

[B]

Yeah, no, they love me.

[A]

Is that a blood thing?

[B]

Supposedly it is. My wife told me that if you don't take care of yourself, like, very well, like, if you eat junk food, if you drink things like that, they. They. They attract more to you.

[A]

Well, can you read this, Jess?

[C]

According to Google AI, Mosquitoes are Attracted to some people more than others due to a combination of factors, including the amount of carbon dioxide they exhale, body heat, and specific body odors from skin, bacteria and sweat. So Karen could be right. Like, everything that we eat, everything we consume impacts, like, how our body reacts and how.

[A]

Yeah. Just, like, based off of this, like, I kind of get why they, like, are attracted to. To you. Terrible, Bo.

[C]

Look, even drinking a beer can also increase a person's attractiveness.

[A]

Oh, dude, they're eating you up, my boy.

[B]

They love me.

[A]

You get bit a lot?

[B]

Yeah, a lot.

[A]

Do you get a lot of spider bites, too? Like, do you ever get, like, spider bites?

[B]

Spider bites? Never.

[A]

Yeah, like when you're sleeping or anything.

[B]

Never. Why would there be spiders in my bed, bro?

[A]

The average human, like, swallows, like, seven spiders in their lifetime when they're sleeping.

[B]

Never look it up. I've never swallowed a spider in my life.

[A]

You wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. This is an actual thing. You never heard this? Yes, it is, bro.

[B]

It's one of those things that, like, someone said it once.

[A]

Everybody believed it. Look, you eat zero bugs in your sleep.

[B]

You see? You eat zero bugs in your sleep. That's the idea that you see. It literally said zero.

[A]

What the. Wait, what? Were you sure, bro?

[B]

That's like one of those, like, urban myths. No, it's like, what is it called?

[A]

Like, a false tale.

[B]

Yeah, it's like, what is it called when it starts with an M? I think. Where, like, you.

[A]

You thought.

[B]

No. You thought the wieners schnitzel logo looked like this mandala effect.

[A]

Yeah, that's not a mandala effect. Hold on.

[B]

But it's like. It's like low key. A mandala effect.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah, because back then. Because that whole, like, oh, you eat seven bugs in your lifetime or blah, blah, blah. Bro, people have been saying this since I was in middle school. It's just one of those tales. I just keep on going and going and going and people believe it. Like stupid people. Like you.

[A]

I was fully convinced.

[C]

Same.

[A]

I was fully convinced and it kind of made sense to me. I'm like. I guess I kind of make sense how? Like, you're sleeping, bro, and there's a.

[B]

Spider that just goes in your mouth.

[A]

I mean, bro, it's a house, right? Like, you're like spy bugs going to the house.

[B]

My. My house. There's no spiders.

[A]

There are spiders. There's for sure. You don't think there's a single spider in your house?

[B]

Yeah, but they're not going in my Mouth.

[A]

Well, according to Google, you're right.

[B]

Josh wakes up the morning, like, for sure ate one last night. I don't know, man.

[A]

Listen, dude, I don't know.

[B]

It is what it is, man. You've had a couple spiders in your life. It's okay.

[A]

Yeah, whatever.

[B]

Yeah. Isn't it kind of weird that the. The. The tour is over?

[A]

We already exposed it, dude.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I am dropping a vlog, though, on the tour, a little BTS that kind of reveals more of it. So if you want to see more of it. I don't know when that's coming out, but I'll make sure I mention it when it does, because that'll be sick. Yeah. Something that we should talk about is the gifts that we got from TCC.

[B]

Yeah, 100%. I got reposado bat.

[A]

I. And this isn't shade to anybody who's come on our podcast, but. Or we've gone on their podcast, but I think when you present somebody a gift, when they come on to, like, a show or vice versa, I think it's very telling of, like, how they, like, view their guests. You know what I've realized? We've never given gifts to our guests.

[C]

We got goodie bags.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we give them goodie bags.

[B]

You're giving gifts?

[A]

Yeah, we're giving gifts.

[B]

A little merch.

[A]

A little 10 off to salute.

[B]

Weren't you gonna say. Weren't you gonna say something? Weren't you gonna say something in the beginning of the show? Something. Something about being hot. Hot? Yeah, I wasn't gonna say something. You're gonna say something about being ugly hot.

[A]

Oh, we were talking about. And maybe we can, like, look this up so I can make sure I can articulate it correctly. There's this whole thing where people are attractive. Right. But they label them. Like, that person is ugly hot, or they're hot ugly like something. They could be ugly, but they're kind of hot. You know what I mean? But if they're, like, hot, like, they're, like, kind of ugly, too. Yeah, but you were saying that for you, it's, like. It's not so much of, like, a physical attraction thing. Like, what? Somebody could be, like, ugly physically, but they can do something, like, cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you would think that they're hot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can you give me an example?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, does the example have to call somebody out?

[A]

Oh, ugly. Cute.

[C]

Ugly, cute.

[A]

And then less common. Okay.

[B]

I saw a poll where women think that the hottest bodies are dad bods. I.

[A]

Can I tell you something?

[B]

I don't believe that either.

[A]

I don't believe that.

[B]

I feel like that's what they said.

[A]

Like, it's just more about, like, just to say something, to kind of go against, like, the norm. But look like that kind of body right there, that's not. Is that considered a dad bod? Because there's still muscle to it. It's dad bodish.

[C]

This is dad bod for sure.

[B]

I. I believe that's dad bod. Yeah. Okay. It's like, you're not crazy in shape, but you're. You're just kind of normal.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And the poll is that these are the hottest bodies.

[B]

Yeah. Girls find that being the hottest.

[A]

I guess it's subjective, right?

[B]

Sure. To each their own, but, yeah, like, the majority think that that's. That's number one. I do believe, like, there is also a poll where they say that the hottest, the most attractive part.

[A]

That guy does not have a dad bod. That guy's in the gym.

[B]

That's Marlon Wayans.

[A]

Is it? Oh, yeah.

[B]

It doesn't look bad. You can tell he goes to the gym.

[A]

Yeah, but he's not, like, shredded. Sure.

[C]

No, he doesn't have, like, a six pack, you know? Yeah, I think that that's the. It's just like. I think that's the vibe for dad bod.

[B]

Girls are not. Girls aren't attracted to six packs either, FYI. Like, full six packs, obviously, like I said, they are, but I'm talking about the majority. They vote. They. It's not the hottest part. The hottest part to a woman is. Is a man's back.

[A]

Oh, okay. Can you see, like, what. How do women rank male body parts?

[B]

Yeah, there's probably, like, a tick tock on it.

[A]

You think it's back?

[B]

I. Every time they do it, number one is back.

[A]

Interesting.

[C]

A 2017 study found the torso to be most popular, with the chest being the most frequently cited part.

[A]

Yeah, I would have thought the chest.

[C]

Too, but this was a 2017 footy.

[B]

So that could have changed a long time ago, bro. We're almost in 2026. You believe that? Wow. Can you believe that? Yeah. Did you graduate high school?

[A]

2008.

[B]

Same. Yeah, I hated graduating in 2008 because we didn't have a cool sign, but we had.

[A]

Oh, hey, don't hate. Did you guys not chant that?

[B]

Yeah, we chanted that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, oh, seven had, like, a sick one. They did, like, a super cool sign.

[A]

You just. You. You just desperately.

[B]

What was 0808?

[A]

Yeah, it was like.

[B]

I don't know, because there Wasn't any. Yeah, that's not cool.

[A]

That's not cool.

[C]

Mine was seniors. I graduated class of 2010, so it was literally like seniors. And it was the 1, the 0. Like, they swapped the I and the O and seniors with the number one and the zero.

[A]

Oh, interesting. Did you guys have a chance?

[C]

I don't think so. I don't remember.

[B]

Well, you graduated in, what, 2010.

[A]

2010. That's when you graduated high school.

[B]

Damn older. Wow.

[A]

I didn't realize that we were that much older than you.

[B]

We're hell older than her.

[C]

It's okay. I feel hella old when I'm with the Gruda Corner.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

They'll be like, how old are you?

[A]

Yeah. Wait, how old is Eddie? And they're. Eddie and Karen are 27. 28.

[B]

27. And then bless if I think it's like 24.

[C]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

Wow. Something like that. Do you know that I almost didn't graduate high school? Me, Sebastian.

[A]

What do you mean? Like, you didn't walk or you didn't graduate? Because there's a difference. Because I didn't walk my eighth grade year because my grades weren't, like, the best.

[C]

Eighth grade?

[A]

Yeah, eighth grade.

[B]

No one cares about eighth grade.

[A]

But there was a graduation. There's like a little ceremony, and I didn't walk.

[B]

For anybody graduates middle school.

[A]

I almost didn't. I almost didn't. I don't remember what it was, if I'm being honest. I just. I don't know if it was because I got in trouble. I don't think it was to do with my grades, but I couldn't walk.

[B]

I was. I was. I was dating somebody in. In high school, and something tragic happened to her. And during my senior year, and I mean, other than that, I was, like, really bad in school. I wasn't a bad kid. I just didn't do any of my work. I did not care about homework.

[A]

Hold on. I'm going to. I'm going to cut you off because you kind of just, like, glazed over this one part. And we're not going to go into it, but just because I want to, like, create glaze.

[B]

What? Huh?

[A]

Like, not glaze. You, like, glaze over it. You. You never heard of that? Like, glaze over it? You said that you dated somebody in high school, that something tragic happened to her. Yeah, I've heard this story. It is probably one of the most fascinating stories you have in your Rolodex of stories. And I hope. I don't even hope that one day.

[B]

I Know, but I just feel like I don't want. No, no, no.

[A]

You shouldn't say of course, out of respect. There's so many. But it's just one of those things. I'm like, I wish you could tell this story.

[B]

I could, I could, but I just feel like this is. Yeah. Something. It's a crazy story.

[A]

It's insane. The story is insane.

[B]

Yeah. It's just.

[A]

Oh, my God. Sorry.

[B]

Yeah. You guys remember. Remember when I told you, like, what happened to her and what happened to me that same day?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's surreal.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like movie esque.

[B]

Yeah, it happened. And at the end of the day, like, I don't even care anymore. It's just. I'm glad that that person's okay.

[A]

Should we talk about the situation at the live show or now with the girl?

[B]

That, that, that the.

[A]

The whole moment. That was probably the craziest experience of the live show, like, throughout the whole tour. Has to be.

[B]

Yeah, we could. I mean.

[A]

Yeah, so there was a. There's been a few tick tocks of us, like people like, recording their recaps of the show and stuff, which I love watching, by the way. So thank you to everybody who's like, first of all, thank you. Everybody went to the show. But the recap videos are. They're so cool to watch to see your guys's pov. She has been commenting on those videos and saying, I was the girl who called out the guy in the red shirt.

[B]

I saw her on my.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On the comments on the Patika shout out to you too, for being like.

[A]

A, like a Being down.

[B]

Being down and like, you know, not caring. Because that was awesome. That, like, you guys were, like, pretty vulnerable about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But what was I saying before this?

[A]

Oh, I don't know.

[B]

My tragic story.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Not only is he like, damn, you should say, that's a fascinating story. A fascinating story. He completely just said, no, no, no.

[A]

That'S not what I was saying. That's it. There was something else we were talking about that was way less interesting.

[B]

Just going back to that other story. Something very tragic happened to her, and I didn't go to school for like a month or two.

[A]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[B]

Because I just would drive to the hospital, like, you know, weep, you know, like, just try to be supportive. But I almost didn't graduate high school.

[A]

Like, because of that. Was that a part of the reason?

[B]

Yeah. I never showed up to school.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

So I failed everything senior year.

[A]

Wow. And even more than you already, the.

[B]

Counselors were like, you Know, like, you're just gonna have to do this and this and that. Summer school I did after school programs when you graduate high school. I don't know how it was like this for me and Marietta. You. You practiced the walk first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't there for that. I was working on some packets or something. They were just like giving packets to.

[A]

Make sure that you can.

[B]

Yeah. And I just need like five more credits left. And I did it. And I was able to walk and make my mom proud.

[A]

That that's really what it's about.

[B]

Huh? My mom. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Because like a GED is like, obviously, like important. Like people should get your ged, but like, I feel like we do it for our family.

[B]

Graduate high school. I mean, I guess I think everybody should graduate high school, but yeah. Going back to. Yeah. That story.

[A]

Like, bro. Because like, look, I don't. I don't want to, like, just to finish my point here and maybe this is just my perspective. I went to a really good school. It was like very academic, focused. And I felt like the schooling was like way. It was. It was way more challenging than. I know some of my other friends who went to other like districts. Because I had a friend who was. I'm so sorry, but this was an idiot dude. Like, so dumb. Yeah. And so stupid. And he graduated with like a 3.5. And I was like, there is no way that you graduated with that high. No, but he was. But then I realized he went to like a terrible schooling district. Bro. There is a. There is a difference. Like, districts matter when it comes to schooling and how much they focus on the academic.

[B]

Like your 3.5 is much different than somebody else's.

[A]

3.5%. I think I graduated with like a 2.6. It's pretty low. But compared to him, I would like, ask him. I'm like, fool, do you know this? And he wouldn't know it. He wouldn't know the thing that I asked him. What was the thing? Uhuh. He wouldn't know it.

[B]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah. So anyways, to wrap up my point, I feel like I learned more out of high school through life experiences than you do like in school. Would you agree? So, like, yes. Like graduating, getting your ged.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

It's very important. You should do it. You should go through the whole schooling thing. But I don't think it's the end. All be all.

[B]

No.

[A]

Not even college, if I'm being honest, like getting a college degree. I Don't think it's like you graduated a college degree. Like, you are super smart. Like, there's so much more to.

[B]

It's more like. It's more important than a high school one. Right.

[A]

So I have a cousin bro.

[B]

You have to have.

[A]

I have a cousin bro. And you know him, Thomas. He has an incredible job. He went through the whole college experience frat. He met my cousin there. They're now. They're still married. He has like the. Your traditional college experience. He's also told me, like, it's more about the relationships that he made in college than anything else. I think that it was like that one class or anything like that.

[B]

That's what it is.

[A]

That's what it is.

[B]

And it's. And it's going to those, like, once you're in college and even in high school, too, you do all that. All those. Those programs that, like, you're like the president of that. Oh, yeah. Or you're like. Or you have, like. You know how, like, there was like a Latino. This club in college, like, those clubs and those groups, those are. Get you somewhere in life. They really do. Our friend Robert, he tells me this all the time. In college, he was in those groups. He. He met these people, and before he even graduated, nobody cared about, like, the diploma or whatever you completing it. They just cared that you went to this school, you know these people, and now you just made a connection. And that's when he started working in New York and stuff like that.

[A]

Yeah, relationships. That's what it comes down to.

[B]

So college is all about, like, joining the clubs and having.

[A]

Being active.

[B]

Great relationships.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[B]

Can't relate. Yeah, can't relate.

[A]

You went to a junior college for a little bit, though, right?

[B]

Barely.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, I just. It's funny because when I went to. To where I went to high school, it's like a smaller town. So the next city over there was a college. That's where everybody would go. But people would make fun of it because it's like, oh, that's just the 13th grade.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because whoever goes here goes there. Wow. So I didn't like the. The environment.

[A]

Like, that shouldn't be a reason to not.

[B]

It's not. It's not.

[A]

I'm just saying for like the listener, if somebody's going through that experience.

[B]

Right. It's not. You should still. I personally think you should go to college if you really want to. If there's something that you really want to focus on going to college for, don't go just to make your mom happy for sure. Because that's what I did. And I didn't do anything. I wasn't involved in anything. I just went to go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I didn't want to just be home. I wanted to feel like I was doing something. Don't go for those reasons.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Go with a plan, please. Like, you're just wasting your time if you don't like what I did.

[A]

What age would you go back to if you can go back to any age as a friend?

[B]

Well, anybody. Anybody can go to college right now. Now, right?

[A]

No, and that's not what I asked.

[B]

Or what'd you say? Oh, like, you didn't. I thought you asked me, like, what age would I like to go back to college?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, what did you say?

[A]

Like, what age would you go back to right now? Like, just looking back at your life, like, talking about that experience of, like, going to college just to, like, make your mom happy. Like, where were you then? And would you want to even go back there? Or where in your timeline would you want to go back to?

[B]

If I go back to this age, do I have to live my life again until now? Or do I go to that age and then just do that year and then.

[A]

Okay, and then I'm back one year. You got to spend one year in that age again.

[B]

Yeah, I would do 12th grade, 12 senior year. Yeah, I'd run that. Run it, bro. I was not this person in high school. I was quiet.

[A]

Oh, you would relive that to be the.

[B]

Relive senior year the way that I am now.

[A]

Wow. Do you. That's tough, because. Would you be a little bit more reckless knowing that this is not real?

[B]

Yeah, I would be reckless.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would not give a. But I'd be doing smart. Like, be in sports, do all the dances, be in the clubs, get good grades. Yeah, like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then again, it doesn't make sense for me to do that because I'll end up in the same position I am now. Later in life, maybe.

[A]

No, it has to alter. It has to alter the reality of how.

[B]

How. How does it alter?

[A]

Just has to.

[B]

Because I'm only gonna be there for a year, and then I wake up and I'm back right here with you.

[A]

Not necessarily. Butterfly effect. Butterfly effect. It can't. It can't be the same.

[B]

Yeah, but what would I be doing?

[C]

Well, okay, so going back to, like.

[A]

Yeah, you never know.

[B]

It wouldn't exist, bro. It wouldn't. I have to be a piece of. For it to exist. No, like, that's dead ass. I have to be a piece of for this to exist.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If I was on some Other Realm shit, I don't know. What do you think?

[C]

Yeah. Well, you're saying how would it change things, right? Like, what is it that you would be working so hard to get good grades for to be in all of these things? Is it to go to college? So then you would have gone into college and then what would have happened? Yeah, back to like, that we probably wouldn't be here. You probably wouldn't have met Karen. Because what were the circumstances under which, like, that, that happened? You know what I mean? Like, everything would be altered. There's just no way that we would be.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Because then that would just be like a dream.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Unless you can just like hop universes to like, so that one year you're in this one universe, but then that course of that lifetime is going to change.

[B]

But.

[A]

And then you can come back to this one where you. You know, where you were here now.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I don't know because I. What I would do is I would try to be like. Like a pilot or something.

[C]

You could do that.

[A]

You could still do that.

[B]

Yeah, like, actually could probably.

[A]

I don't think that there's anything where you're at in life right now that if you really wanted to do.

[B]

I can do it.

[A]

You can still. Yeah. You're still at that point.

[B]

That goes with anybody too.

[A]

Yeah, but it gets harder as time goes on. For sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Especially.

[B]

But like I'm saying, like family.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Now that you're married, even, it still can become more of a challenge. You know what I mean? And it just becomes more and more challenging, like once you have kids and.

[B]

Yeah, kids. No, But I think 12th grade or even like a couple years after when I was 21, 22, I literally wasted my life, bro. All I did was just work, check to check and spend it that weekend and go out and it's crazy because I was enjoying my adolescence.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, going out, going somewhere, creating memories. But I think in reality that none of that really matters.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

None of it, actually. You're not doing anything to. To.

[A]

It's fun in that moment, but it doesn't.

[B]

Yeah, but you're not doing anything for yourself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What about you? What age would you go back to? You try to make the football team again? You don't want to be third string anymore.

[A]

It would definitely have to be like out of school era.

[B]

Oh, not in school.

[A]

No, no, no. For me it would be like I don't know. 22, 23. Like, the beginning of, like, trying because I was still partying and stuff like that, but I was also pursuing a dream that, like, Like, I had no idea if I was going to be able to obtain it. And I want to feel that again so it wouldn't be to, like, relive it and do it differently. I just want to feel that again.

[B]

Oh, God. So he's saying he's perfect.

[A]

No, no, no. It's just like, I, I. There's. I don't know. That's.

[B]

Yeah. But honestly, like, sometimes that's what I was asking you.

[A]

It wasn't more about, like, changing everything, what would you want to feel again? What would you want to go through again?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. None of that. None of it. I need to change it. Yeah. No, I think it'd be really pretty to see, like, my beginning years with my wife, Karen.

[A]

Oh, that's cool.

[B]

I think that would be something sweet that I would. Something. I didn't treasure it or enjoy that.

[A]

I did, but you just don't know.

[B]

It's like, it's just.

[A]

It's like, what's unknown.

[B]

It's like when you have, when you get a dog, you only with that dog when he's a puppy for, like a year. Other than that, that puppy completely changes into dog dog, and you never see him as a puppy no more.

[A]

That's like babies, same thing.

[B]

Yeah. That's why I think you should cherish that. So, like, the beginning of my relationship, that's like my puppy stage. Right. That's why it's called love. So I would like to relive that.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

That would be nice. You know, and hopefully I did something in 12th grade that would make me have a little bit more money at that time, too, so I can treat my wife a little better than what, you know, take her out to better spots.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I remember, like, my first day with my wife. I, like, she drove. I barely had any money. I spent my whole money on that date. I would like to come into it, like, more established, I guess.

[A]

Hopefully this is not, like, too out of a question, but, like, when did you know that, like, Karen was gonna be, like, somebody, like, popping like, that?

[B]

I never, I never.

[A]

You never, like, really thought.

[B]

Thought about.

[A]

Did she ever talk about, like, Mind.

[B]

You, I been with Karen years and years prior to anything.

[A]

I know, but that's really cool because you kind of saw her in the beginning of when she was even pursuing something. I'm sure she would tell you about like, her dreams, like, I want to do this one day. Like, I want to be at this spot I want to have, even if it's, like, you know, as simple as, like, I want to have a million followers or whatever it is.

[B]

Like, when she never cared about that stuff, I think it just happened organically.

[A]

But she had goals.

[B]

Yeah, she just wanted to. To. To be busy booking makeup and doing freelancing and having a. A steady job. That's really what she wanted to do. After that, it was more kind of like everything that happened to her happened really organically. It wasn't even. Like, she. She never said, I'm gonna tour the United States for two years straight and do makeup seminars. She never said that. It just happened. And she. And the beauty of it is that she was down for it. You know, I wasn't like, oh, I don't know. It. Let's do it. I'm down. You know, that was cool.

[A]

That is cool. That is cool.

[B]

Yeah. But I never. I never. I mean, you know, you obviously start to see things come in our lives and stuff. You're like, oh, okay, this is what's gonna happen. This is what's gonna happen. And we hope that this happens, you know, every year, it's. We still think that, you know, but I always believe that with my wife. She's. She's such a hard worker, bro. And she's.

[A]

So.

[B]

No matter what, she's always on it, so I don't ever have to worry about her, because no matter what happens to her or me. Oh, I'm sorry. Like, us. Something's gonna happen. Great. To her because she's such a hard worker.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's always on, bro. And she cares so much about her work ethic, her work in general, and how to become a better person every year. That's what she cares about. And it's. She's just gonna always. She. I don't have to worry. She's fine, bro. Like, she's, like, mentally, she's successful and, you know, financially, too, but she just has a good head on her shoulder.

[A]

And she's always been like that.

[B]

She's always.

[A]

Since the moment you met her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You saw that determination and drive, like, no matter what.

[B]

And you can say it's like, a Virgo thing and blah, blah, blah, but no, it's like, she's like, really?

[A]

Or Virgo's known for, like, being hard workers.

[B]

Yeah. Like, very, like, type A, like, getting done, meticulous and. Yeah, it's all of the above. But at the end of the Day. Like, she's naturally just a hard worker.

[A]

See, that's interesting. The reason I ask is because, like, for me, I kind of followed a blueprint, if I'm being honest. Like, I met Eric Ochoa, super ego, and he was the blueprint. He was a standard for me. So I was like, okay, if I continue to do this and if I build this, I can have that. So that's what I was like, kind of like, always chasing.

[B]

There was no blueprint for Karen.

[A]

Yeah. That's what's crazy. Yeah. So she kind of created that for herself. I was so fortunate that I had that, bro, because I don't even know. I couldn't imagine me trying to, like, start it on my own, like, how I would even go about it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, the whole, like, beauty industry and things like that, obviously you get to. To meet a lot of young girls and guys that are doing the same thing, so I think they all kind of, like, start doing the same thing and follow some sort of, like, Instagram, what type of videos to post.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What to post on YouTube, what to Talk about things like that. So I guess there's a Bluetooth, but not really, bro.

[A]

Blueprint blue. Too much of a tech guy, bro.

[B]

Yeah, no blueprint.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Which is really special. But like I said, I don't ever have to, like, worry about her or anything like that, like, because I know she's always gonna be good, bro. And like, she's like the type of person that, like, she makes her own. She. She. She creates her own path, bro. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not even trying to, like, too her own horn like that, but she's one of the first beauty influencers like that to start running and being athletic and. And. And. And putting her, like, beauty and. And putting that hybrid with running and being athletic and, you know, and now brands love that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They love working with people who. Who run, who are active, you know. You know, these brand deals are starting to transform into, like, instead of like, hey, do this video with this lipstick. Now it's like, hey, you know, when you go on a run, can you show, like, that this lipstick stays on or something like that?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she's, like, one of the pioneers on doing that, and she's doing. And she does it well.

[A]

Yeah. It's incredible.

[B]

So just in that realm, like, she's just like, really, she does. She, like, creates her own path without even, like, realizing it. And I think that's the beauty of it.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. And then. And then me, I just. Spectating. No, I feel like with me, I'm so simple. I feel like this is, like, what I know to create.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we know to create. And I know that if I just love doing something, more things come out of that.

[A]

Oh, that's good. Yeah, I like that.

[B]

I just feel like everybody has to have, like, their core and what they like to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What they want to always do somewhat in life. And if you just keep loving that thing and keep on doing it, I think you'll figure out a way to make or monetize from it.

[A]

Yeah. Like, the money will come.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it's obviously sometimes easier said than done, of course. But I think. Yeah, I think that's good.

[A]

That was a good conversation, man. You did it, dude.

[B]

Thanks, dude. And I did it with almost not graduating high school.

[A]

Imagine if you guys.

[B]

Imagine if I graduated, bro. Honestly, what would you see me doing?

[A]

I could see you in, like, the arts, bro. I think you're an artist. I think that you're an artist in your own way. Like in fashion and music. Like, I think you'd still be in that realm. So it wouldn't even be anything with school. I don't. I personally don't think that you necessarily need a school for what you were destined to be. And you're kind of. You're doing it. You're still. You're an artist in your own way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You weren't expecting me to say that, huh?

[B]

No. You know. Yeah, I have something, like, creatively, because you know me, I'm not a 9 to 5.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like pushing pencil and paper type.

[A]

I think maybe you would have done it and then you would have been unfulfilled.

[B]

Well, I've done it before, trust me.

[A]

Yeah, but I'm saying, like, if you would have never even gotten to. Let's just say this wasn't in your destiny. And you were just like. You went to college and you were doing it and you were like, man, I thought I was supposed to do the whole college thing, but this is not fulfilling.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Like, let's say you never met. Never were you introduced to this kind of world.

[B]

Yeah, it's not fulfilling. It's not for me.

[A]

For you.

[B]

But I know, like, some of my really good friends, like, they love it. Of course, like, people have, like, their own thing for that, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I was on power106 not too long ago. Shout to the brown back for having me. That was an amazing experience.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't even Think I've talked about on the podcast. I haven't. Right. Congrats, bro. Yeah, they. Thank you.

[A]

They.

[B]

They hit me up. He kind of said it like, like, like very. No, that was here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Very sincere. But you don't see Matt so sincere. So it's like, are you being sincere right now? Yeah. Thank you. No, I appreciate that.

[A]

No, seriously, congrats, man.

[B]

Yeah, no, seriously, congrats, man.

[C]

Congrats, though.

[B]

Get a look. Get a load of this guy.

[A]

What was that, Pedro? Congrats.

[B]

And it was such a great experience. And I told Latte and I said, you know, it's funny. It's like I went to school wanting. When I did go to college, I. I went to school for communications.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At that moment, I didn't know what it was, but I knew that it fell in the. In the. In the universe of, like, entertainment somewhat. Being on the radio or being a journalist or, like, I don't know. But I thought that that's what it was gonna be. And it wasn't because I still had to go to a math class. And so I was like, what is this? But that was my initial thought. So I told. Like. I always wanted to do something like this. Like when I was a lot younger, I wanted to be like, on the radio. I thought that was like, such a cool job. And, you know, it is. It's such a sick job. And like, I had the privilege of being on Power 106 and shout out to everybody who listened because it was a really good experience. And I told her, I was like, this is like a big bucket listing for me, cuz. I always wanted to be on the radio. And you made that happen. And I was like, legit on the radio, like live. And it was like the coolest experience. So I think that I would always want to be something like that. But life almost gave me the same.

[A]

Thing, just different in a different format.

[B]

In a different way. Yeah. So. But I don't know if Power 106 wants to hire me for a couple of days. I'm super down to go, bro.

[A]

That. That morning, waking up that early Monday through Friday.

[B]

But I feel like I can do that.

[A]

But you can do that because you.

[B]

I feel like I'm like, I can do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you're done, right? You're like, what time are you wrapped by like, 10, 9.

[B]

Yeah, 9:30.

[A]

Then you have the whole day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Kind of sick.

[B]

Yeah, that was great. And I was like, I. I was even telling them. I was like, this is such A freaking cool job. Yeah. And like, let these right there. Like, she's like the head honcho type, you know? And then like, big next to me and Angie.

[A]

It definitely takes a skill set to do radio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's a perfect example.

[B]

They're amazing.

[A]

A top tier radio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jockey.

[B]

They're amazing, bro. And they just have to be on. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was such a good experience. And I was like. I was like, ken, do you think. Do you think that's ever, like, hired to be on a radio show? Because I think you would. I was like, I just don't think that you can do it every day. Like my scheduling, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, yeah, but maybe if they're flexible. Anybody, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I highly doubt they'll be flexible for me.

[A]

Yeah. You know who's done it for. I mean, there's a bunch of people who've done it for, like, ever, but, like, Ryan Seacrest, like, this dude has been on the radio for years, bro, every morning.

[B]

And he like, capitalized on that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hosting award shows.

[A]

This is weird, but can we just google his net worth? Like, how.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he also produces for the Kardashians. He's one of the head producers for the. For the.

[C]

He's been from the get go. He's an executive producer now, but he. He helped create.

[A]

Holy. What.

[C]

What is it estimated to be between 450 million and 500 million, bro.

[A]

He's. He's annually making 75 million from various. Because he does a bunch of other hostings of American Idol. Oh, that's right. Damn, bro. Yeah, that is busy.

[B]

He's. He's a legend you call a busy bee. I remember when I was like 21, 22 years old, driving to like, I used to do this landscaping stuff and he'd be on the radio and I listened to it and it was like, super entertaining.

[A]

He has, like, a good radio, I think.

[B]

I like Ryan's Roses.

[C]

Yeah, he was with LNK back in the day. Like. Yeah, Ryan Roses. I grew up on that.

[B]

Kiss fm.

[A]

Yeah, he's still on Kiss.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

Is he?

[A]

I believe so.

[B]

We can double check, but he's a busy guy, man. He.

[A]

I don't think he's ever been in, like, relationship.

[B]

He has the look.

[A]

Yeah, he's. He's a white boy.

[B]

Yeah. But, you know, he has the look.

[A]

Yeah. Yep, he's still on there.

[C]

Anyhow, deal to continue with iHeartMedia through 2027. Damn. So continues nationally syndicated morning show on.

[A]

Air with Ryan they have to give it up for somebody being worth almost half a billion dollars and still waking up every single day and doing, like.

[B]

Because he loves what he does.

[A]

That's my point. And that's my point, PZ Poo.

[B]

He loves what he does.

[A]

Yeah. All right, listen there, bro. Yeah.

[B]

Don't we have to do, like, a brand deal for you right now? All right, guys, thank you so much. Sorry. I feel like I was, like, very, like, monotone today. I'm really trying to, like, not scream and, like, take care of this. No, you did.

[A]

You did amazing, bro.

[B]

You did it. Enjoy the rest of you guys week. Hashtag Mondays don't suck.

[A]

Okay, Love you guys.

[B]

See ya. Bye. You know, this might sound crazy, but I. I feel like I would kill somebody.