“I WALKED AWAY FROM A CRAZY DEAL” - CHIQUIS TELLS ALL

Summary

LA PLATICA, Ep. 241: “I WALKED AWAY FROM A CRAZY DEAL” – CHIQUIS TELLS ALL (April 6, 2026)

Brief Overview

In this heartfelt and wide-ranging episode, hosts Sebas (Sebastian Robles) and Josh Leyva welcome back their longtime friend and Latin music star Chiquis for a genuinely revealing conversation. Chiquis speaks exclusively about a “crazy deal” she walked away from, her transformative journey after personal loss, the making of her most vulnerable album yet, spirituality, relationships, wellness rituals, and plenty of laughs about life, snacks, and language quirks. This episode is packed with honest insights about navigating growth as an artist and person—showcasing the trio’s signature warmth, humor, and depth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Crazy Deal" and Empowering Artistic Choices

• Chiquis reveals leaving her record label over pressure to stay in the banda genre, despite being offered a lucrative deal:
  • “I walked away from my record label, from a crazy deal, because they wanted me to do banda and I was like, ‘I don’t want to do banda right now. I need to do this.’ If I don't listen to this, it's really going to send me in a different direction and not a good one. I said, I need to do this. This basically like saved me, I feel.” (23:21)
• She emphasizes following intuition over external expectations, making music that “finally aligned” with her heart.
• The new album ("Janae") is her most personal, with Chiquis drawing from poetry, meditation, and real-life transformation.

2. Healing Journey & Rebirth Through Adversity

• Chiquis speaks candidly about her miscarriage in 2024 and how it led her to a rebirth and deep healing, including plant medicine and indigenous spirituality.
• The experience inspired her to change her music’s direction, shifting from music for others to music true to herself.
  • "That was part of, like, in some ways, like a rebirth ... I felt like I connected more with God. I felt like I cleansed my body. I feel better than ever. And it just inspired me to change my music for now. This is what I need to do right now.” (14:01)
• She notes that the journey also improved her relationship, making her a “better partner.”

3. Relationships, Wellness, and Personal Growth

• Relationships: The trio discusses the importance of openness, adapting as partners grow, and how change is constant in healthy relationships.
  • “If you treat that person like you did before, it might not work.” (17:29 – Jess)
• Wellness Rituals: Chiquis shares her daily non-negotiable practices: prayer, breathwork, stepping barefoot on grass (“earthing”), and disconnecting from her phone in the morning.
  • "For me, that's one thing that's non-negotiable. Like, it just kind of sets you." (53:52)
• She candidly discusses her mental health, vulnerability, and self-care as essential to her artistic and personal evolution.

4. The New Album “Janae”—Vision, Creation, and Inspirations

• Process: A songwriting camp with daily meditation and breathwork; poems transformed into songs; Chiquis openly cries in the studio as she confronts her feelings.
  • "The songs were poems from my heart ... So the entire process has been absolutely so beautiful. I did everything completely different." (22:52)
• Genre: Described as “very spiritual,” “pop, but not popish,” and “floro pop,” with fusions of R&B, soul, and English/Spanish tracks. Pink Floyd, Sade, Bob Marley, and Cleo Soul among her influences.
  • "There's nothing like it. The album is continuous ... like Pink Floyd—biggest inspiration." (26:32)
• Singles: Sneak peek at upcoming release “Malibu” (with Jesse Joy), and current singles “Volvi” and “Eres Mas.”
• Promotion: Breaking the mold—Chiquis says she’s eschewing traditional media in favor of intimate podcast conversations and smaller listening events.
  • “I don’t think I want to go do promo for this album. I just want to do podcasts and you guys are the first one.” (24:21)

5. Spiritual & Philosophical Explorations

• On Souls & Reincarnation: Chiquis reflects on the soul as “star dust,” believing in reincarnation and that we’re all “given a light that finds its way into a body.” She thinks our purpose involves learning lessons across lives.
  • “That’s my belief ... I feel like each soul is ... a little light, one of a kind.” (44:38)
• On Religion & Openness: The hosts and Chiquis stress mutual respect among beliefs, sharing the philosophy that “love is my religion.”
  • “Be a good person, treat people the way you want to be treated ... my religion is love.” (47:42)

6. Wholesome Banter: Language, Food & Light-Hearted Delights

• Language Rants: The trio riff on English “weird” words (island, colonel, knife, route/root), “neither vs. neither,” and the quirks of pronunciation. (60:54)
• Snack & Food Favorites:
  • Chiquis: SmartPop white cheddar popcorn, beef jerky (prefers it dry), peach Snapple, Cool Ranch Doritos, Tostitos Salsa Verde chips (“fire”), and animal-style fries (but cheese “messes with her stomach” lately).
  • Favorite chain: BJ’s (pizza, salad, bazooki).
  • In-N-Out Order: Number 2, extra toasted buns, no lettuce/tomato, grilled + raw onions, extra pickles, chiles.
  • Dream date spot: Sushi bar—watching the chefs, intimate conversation.
• Self-Care Essentials: In her bag: hand lotion with SPF, wipes, agenda, Poo-Pourri, trail mix with nuts and M&Ms, lip balm, and a little perfume.
• Fun “Rapid Fire” Questions: Fast food preferences, favorite movies (“Mrs. Doubtfire”), and what’s on repeat in her playlist.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Empowerment and Artistic Integrity

"I walked away from my record label from a crazy deal because they wanted me to do banda and I was like, I don't want to do banda right now. I need to do this. If I don't listen to this, it's really going to send me in a different direction and not a good one...This basically, like, saved me, I feel."
– Chiquis (23:21)

On Healing and Spiritual Awakening

“After the miscarriage...I started looking into natural ways of cleansing and I came across indigenous medicine, so plant medicine. I felt like I connected more with God. I feel better than ever. And it just inspired me to change my music for now. This is what I need to do right now.”
– Chiquis (14:01)

Discussing the Power of Podcast Intimacy

"I don't think I want to go do promo for this album. I just want to do podcasts and you guys are the first one."
– Chiquis (24:21)

Defining the Album’s Spirit and Influences

“There's nothing like it. The album is continuous ... like Pink Floyd—biggest inspiration. Just do whatever the hell you want. And they just did it. That's kind of what I did.”
– Chiquis (27:04)

On Souls & Reincarnation

“We all come from stars. We're...stardust. We're all interconnected, and then I think we're just giving a light that we have ... that's our soul.”
– Chiquis (44:38)

On Religion and Tolerance

“My religion is love. That's what I'm—what's up? Love.”
– Chiquis (47:42)

Belly Laughs on Food and Wellness

“You need more fiber...We just have to, like, replenish, you know, prunes and all that stuff.”
– Chiquis (76:16)

“If you treat that person like you did before, it might not work.”
– Jess (17:29)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 13:16 | Chiquis describes her healing, musical transformation and rebirth | | 21:24 | The vulnerability of releasing a personal album | | 23:21 | Exclusive: Walking away from a record deal to stay true to herself | | 26:32 | The album’s spiritual, genre-bending direction—Pink Floyd inspiration | | 44:38 | Philosophical chat on reincarnation, souls, and lessons | | 47:42 | On “religion is love” and mutual respect for beliefs | | 53:52 | Chiquis’ daily rituals for grounding and wellness | | 60:54 | The great debate: route/root, neither/neither, colonel, “library,” etc. | | 66:15 | Snack favorites, rapid-fire food Q&A | | 76:30 | On fiber, digestion, and dates—both as fruit and romantic evenings | | 78:11 | Intimate album listening party invite for April 7th | | 79:21 | Official album drop: April 9th/16th | | 80:15 | Warm goodbyes, mutual support, and gratitude |

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Tone, Friendship, & Final Thoughts

The episode’s tone is a beautiful blend of vulnerability, humor, and warmth. Chiquis’ openness about struggle and growth sets the stage for conversations that oscillate from deep (spirituality, love, art) to delightfully everyday (snacks, language, digestive health). There’s palpable respect, inside jokes, and “real talk” between the hosts and guest which makes La Plática’s signature authenticity shine through.

Final message: If you want an honest, inspirational, and genuinely fun view into a star’s evolution—personally and artistically—this episode is not to be missed. As Chiquis says: “My religion is love.” And this episode overflows with it.

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“I believe we all have our inner lights.” — Chiquis (43:25)

Transcript

[Cheeky]

It's just. I can't even explain it. Like you. It's nerve wracking, you know, you're like, oh my God, this little thing that it's my little secret and I'm letting it go and it's like, oh. And then so many opinions and you have to learn to just quiet that down. And it took me a long time and just be like, I did that. And it's in my heart's there and it's gonna get to the people that it needs. Especially with this album that I'm doing. I was just like, oh my gosh, you're gonna just criticize me and I don't sound like my mom and I don't. So it was always that pressure and now I'm singing it. Dude, just that alone was overwhelming. Of just like, whoa. This really came to life. It was an idea, a scary idea because I walked away from my record label from a crazy deal because they wanted me to do banda and I was like, I don't want to do banda right now. I need to do this. If I don't listen to this, it's really going to send me in a different direction and not a good one. I said I need to do this. This basically like saved me, I feel. And this is all exclusive. I haven't talked to anyone about this, by the way, I swear.

[Josh]

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[Jess]

All right, should we hit that again?

[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

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[Jess]

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[Jess]

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[Josh]

That's what it is. Enjoy today's episode and we'll see you guys in 12.4 seconds. Seconds. We'll work on it. I'm gonna use it.

[Cheeky]

Let me be honest.

[Jess]

Every guest is a privilege.

[Josh]

Do we want to go there?

[Jess]

Get Jo. Cuz I'm on a podcast with Josh Le. Yeah, you have too.

[Josh]

Ladies and gentlemen, let me just tell

[Luana]

you

[Josh]

guys, I have probably the biggest, most exciting taste Saluth announcement. Ever since we started Saluth, one of my dreams was to get into Costco. And another dream of mine was to create a variety pack for you guys. Cause I know it's been highly requested. You guys want all the flavors.

[Jess]

All right?

[Josh]

And it's here. Not all the flavors, but the top two flavors.

[Jess]

Top two flavors in one bag. Soda bag.

[Josh]

Peezy soda bag.

[Jess]

Dude, you're talking about two of the best selling flavors in one bag. 30 sticks.

[Josh]

Yes, sir.

[Jess]

At Costco.

[Josh]

Well, here's the thing. It's only [e-mail] and you can get this sturdy pack of Jamaica and [e-mail]. and here's the thing. If it performs well, if people want to buy this right, Then we increase our chances to getting into Costco warehouse stores.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Josh]

So if you guys want to see this at your local Costco, you got to go to Costco.com buy your variety pack. Which, by the way, Costco.com is the only place you can buy this beautiful bag. This is surreal to see.

[Jess]

By the way, guys, Costco.com for 34.99. Yep. That's the best deal that you're gonna get from Salut anywhere.

[Josh]

Anywhere in the world. Guys. 30 count Jamaica, Horchata, hydration plus immunity. These flavors right here are absolutely delicious.

[Jess]

So, guys, we need your guys help.

[Josh]

Yes. Go to Costco.com, get your variety pack, and let's make it happen. Let's get into Costco.

[Jess]

Let's make it happen. Hey, let's get into Costco, bro.

[Josh]

This would be the first Latino hydration brand in Costco. Like, this is a big deal if this happens. So we gotta do our thing, man.

[Jess]

Get in to Costco. Let's get into Costco. Let's get into Costco.

[Josh]

I like that tone better.

[Jess]

Let's get into Costco.

[Josh]

Costco.com.

[Luana]

guys, this is La Platica episode 241 with Cheekies.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Josh]

Cheeky's in the building, everybody.

[Jess]

Another reoccurring guest.

[Cheeky]

Oh, my goodness.

[Josh]

We were actually just talking about this before we started. You were on almost three years ago.

[Cheeky]

Almost three years ago.

[Josh]

And the old stew.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Josh]

And the shoe box.

[Cheeky]

Oh, I love that. I Loved it.

[Josh]

I know. I miss it.

[Cheeky]

I loved it. This is very nice.

[Jess]

I don't.

[Cheeky]

I know. He's like.

[Jess]

It was. It was. It was good. So many memories.

[Cheeky]

It gave a lot.

[Josh]

It did. It was wholesome. I feel like it was wholesome. It was, like, a good place for us to start.

[Jess]

It was nice. And you know what? There's some podcasts out there that are super major who still rock the shoebox vibes, bro.

[Josh]

Even, like, Joe Rogan.

[Cheeky]

He.

[Josh]

He's been doing podcasts forever, right? He.

[Cheeky]

He.

[Josh]

When he sold to Spotify, he changed his whole set. Do you remember? He was, like, in a spaceship, and everybody hated it. So he went back to his old studio. They wanted just the traditional, more chill, raw, authentic vibes. Yeah. So I had that thought when we did all this. I'm like, are people gonna fuck with this? Like, is this too much?

[Cheeky]

I love it.

[Josh]

You know? But I think this is the vibe.

[Cheeky]

It feels cozy. It feels like I'm chilling in your s. Yeah. So I love it.

[Jess]

Like, if me and Josh. Me and Josh.

[Josh]

If me and Jash, we. Over here just chilling.

[Jess]

If me and Josh were, like, bachelors and we live together as roomies, I feel like this would be every room, right? Yeah. Maybe a fish tank.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Jess]

Right? Okay.

[Josh]

Dude.

[Jess]

I.

[Josh]

With the fish tank.

[Jess]

You know what I mean?

[Cheeky]

I love fish.

[Josh]

Me too. They're beautiful.

[Cheeky]

I think they're so nice.

[Jess]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

I just have Justin soul watching our lives like this.

[Cheeky]

They have the coolest jobs, huh?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

They laugh all day. I love you guys. That's awesome, man.

[Jess]

It's here. They fake. Maybe they fake laugh, though. I don't know.

[Cheeky]

No, this is genuine.

[Josh]

No, no. We don't get pity laughs.

[Jess]

No, we don't. And I take pride, ladies and gentlemen, when Jess laughs at my jokes, I always take pride in that. I'm like, hell, yeah. If she's laughing, it was funny.

[Cheeky]

What's your. Your sign, Jess?

[Luana]

I'm a Gemini.

[Cheeky]

Gemini. We get a lot of hate, but I know Emil's a Gemini.

[Jess]

I'm scared of. Gemini's a Gemini. That's right. I'm a Gemini.

[Cheeky]

Uhhuh. But no, I learned that all those bad things that they say about Geminis aren't true.

[Josh]

They're not all true.

[Cheeky]

They're not all true.

[Jess]

What are.

[Josh]

But most of them are true.

[Cheeky]

You think so?

[Jess]

I don't know.

[Cheeky]

Okay, what.

[Jess]

What are some things in a Gemini that you find interesting or true?

[Cheeky]

Okay. You know when they say. They've said a lot. Okay. Geminis Are two faces.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

That's the first thing they say.

[Cheeky]

Yes. Here's the thing I've learned that it's not that. Okay, you guys can be a little hot and cold.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

And it becomes like, undecisive. Undecisive. A little. A little indecisive. But also like, see, they should. They're like fine in one moment and then it could quickly change and you're like, what the. You were just hot and.

[Jess]

Uhhuh.

[Josh]

What happened?

[Cheeky]

Yeah, exactly. But then they switch. They switch over again. Like, oh, I'm. I'm good. You know what I mean? Like, that's what that's been my.

[Jess]

Interesting.

[Luana]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

So it's not a two face at all.

[Jess]

I don't think it would technically is a two face. But don't think about it as a negative two face.

[Cheeky]

Exactly.

[Jess]

Right. Because people think too faced. It's like, oh, you're a backstabber.

[Cheeky]

Uhhuh.

[Jess]

Right? That's true. Some of us might be right. But not me.

[Cheeky]

No.

[Josh]

Or Josh.

[Jess]

When. Because, you know, being a Gemini, I'm sure you. You've always. I've came to a conclusion. I've sat down and I'm looking at myself in the mirror and I say, am I two faced? Is that a real thing? And I'm like, I don't think so. But it's kind of like what you said. Like sometimes I find myself. My personality is through the roof.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And then there's days where don't talk to me all day.

[Cheeky]

Exactly. Yep.

[Jess]

Or like my wife would be like, what?

[Luana]

Sometimes. Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Okay.

[Josh]

You're like an introverted extrovert.

[Jess]

I could be. I can just switch it up.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And then sometimes my wife's like, you okay? Is something bothering you? She says sometimes I have a super big Fuji face. Really?

[Josh]

Yeah. You got a bf ff.

[Jess]

Fuji face.

[Cheeky]

Oh, Fuji face.

[Jess]

What'd you say?

[Josh]

Bf I think is bf.

[Jess]

Rbf.

[Josh]

Oh, rbf. Yes. Thank you.

[Cheeky]

What? What?

[Josh]

Resting face.

[Cheeky]

Yes, that one.

[Josh]

That's what it is.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I knew it didn't sound right. I. Something's missing here.

[Jess]

Yeah. So then I'm like, no, everything's fine. Like, I'm honestly happy, but like Tango Lakara, you know what I mean?

[Josh]

I feel like you do, bro. I don't feel like you have rbf.

[Jess]

No, no, no, no, I don't. No, no, no. But the thing is like, with you, like, I'm always happy with you.

[Josh]

There you go.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, I know. Oh my God. Cute.

[Jess]

Not that I'm never happy with my wife, by the way I didn't even

[Luana]

take it that way.

[Cheeky]

I didn't.

[Jess]

I gotta say it, though.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, yeah. Good husband.

[Josh]

You gotta clarify.

[Jess]

I gotta say that.

[Josh]

Say your name, baby.

[Jess]

Say.

[Josh]

You know what this was missing a leg cover.

[Cheeky]

This right here.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Oh, I hold on my cuff.

[Josh]

Get comfy, girl.

[Jess]

Yeah, get comfortable.

[Josh]

What sign are you? Jiggies. Let me guess.

[Cheeky]

Cancer.

[Josh]

Oh, cancer. I was going to say cancer.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. What are you?

[Josh]

Capricorn.

[Cheeky]

Capricorn.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Cheeky]

Nice.

[Jess]

You were really going to say cancer?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Every time he ask somebody his their sign, he always says that. He always says that. Like if you would said Pisces. I was going to say Pisces.

[Josh]

I was going to say Pisces.

[Jess]

Now. Why you like that? You're smooth, though.

[Josh]

I was going to say cancer.

[Jess]

You're smooth.

[Cheeky]

Promise?

[Jess]

No. Okay. Okay. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to La Platica. It's Monday. Oh, my God, it's Monday. Hashtag Mondays don't suck. They never will until me and Josh pass away.

[Josh]

Whoa, dude.

[Jess]

Yeah, I took it there.

[Josh]

Look.

[Jess]

Today is a special episode. Once again, we said we have a reoccurring guest. Not only a reoccurring guest, but our friend. Our friend that I've known for such a long time. I run into her all the time, and when I run into her, I always feel like I'm doing something good with my life. Oh. Because if you're running into somebody so successful, like, cheeky.

[Josh]

You're on the right track.

[Jess]

You're on the right track. Thank you, Josh.

[Josh]

I like that.

[Cheeky]

Oh, my God.

[Jess]

I've never said that about you. This episode is sponsored by SeatGeek, the number one rated ticketing app on the App Store. You seeking because you should just use it because someone said so. Other than that, let's have a. Let's have a great fucking episode, dude.

[Josh]

Let's do it, dude.

[Jess]

All right. Yeah. So we see you in the treadmill. Keep pushing. We see you on the way to work. Keep pushing. If you just hear us on Apple podcasts or Spotify, stop with it. Stop with it. We'll try to speak in our most sexiest voices ever.

[Josh]

We could do that.

[Jess]

That wasn't even sexy. That's the thing.

[Josh]

It was kind of sexy.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Okay.

[Josh]

I give it like a 7.4. Sexiness.

[Cheeky]

Try your sexy voice.

[Jess]

Ah, here we go.

[Josh]

So.

[Jess]

Why you go all the way down here? It sounds like you're getting choked.

[Cheeky]

Are you guys my friends?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Cheeky]

Okay. Because I feel like I have something in my nose. I want you guys.

[Josh]

Let me see no, you're totally good right here.

[Jess]

Like what, though? Like a mo.

[Josh]

No, your nostrils are, like, perfectly all right.

[Cheeky]

Thank God I see your brain.

[Josh]

No, you're good.

[Jess]

No, you're good.

[Cheeky]

All right. Those are good friends, right?

[Jess]

I would tell you. I would tell you.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cheeky]

I was like. I had to just ask.

[Jess]

First of all, it's a blessing to have you. Once again, thank you so much for making time for. For us and being here.

[Cheeky]

Honestly, I'm excited.

[Jess]

Everybody back at home loves you. I mean, who doesn't love you? I can't believe that you're even here. You're such a busy woman. How are you?

[Cheeky]

I'm good. I. How am I right now? Hold on.

[Josh]

Yeah. Center yourself. Be here, be present.

[Cheeky]

How's ch. Okay. Honestly, right now I'm happy.

[Jess]

Oh, good.

[Cheeky]

My day started off a little rough, but then it started getting better, so I'm happy. I feel content right now. I feel content.

[Jess]

That's.

[Cheeky]

That's the. The real answer right now.

[Jess]

Yeah. I know that we were talking about before. You know, I ran into her.

[Josh]

We were talking about that in Hawaii.

[Jess]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I always run into her.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

It's either it's a coincidence or Megan.

[Josh]

And that was a. That was pure coincidence. Like, you guys just.

[Jess]

Yeah, it was.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, pure coincidence.

[Jess]

It was. We. I. I took my wife for her birthday to. To Hawaii. I do like that. And. And yeah, it was. Same hotel and everything. It was really cool. And then we went over there, we had some shots. It was really cool.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Hawaii is amazing.

[Cheeky]

I love Hawaii, man.

[Jess]

It's just. It's so nice to go over there. And we were talking about just kind of like our wellness and everything that. That we're, like, looking forward to for the upcoming year and the things that have changed. How have you felt since the time that I saw you to now? What has changed? The aura, the energy, the lifestyle.

[Josh]

How long ago was this, by the way? What's the timeline here?

[Jess]

It was mid August last year, right?

[Cheeky]

Yes. Right. Cuz. Yes. Okay.

[Jess]

That was the last time I saw you. Wow.

[Cheeky]

That. Was that the last time?

[Jess]

I guess so we need to, like, not know.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, I know. Dude. I've been telling you guys. You guys. You guys have to come over.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Okay. So since then. Okay. I think I showed you guys the music before it even came out.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Right.

[Josh]

I think you in Hawaii.

[Jess]

Yeah. You showed it to us on the beach.

[Cheeky]

On the beach. And I was like, I just need you guys to listen to this so that Was, like, from the intro album, and now the entire album is done. So it's just, like, so in that aspect, because I was just in a very. What's the word? Like, I was just, like, trying to find my way still in, like, this new change that I'm making, especially with my music. So I was a little. And now I feel like, okay, I have a lot of clarity. Like, I feel like everything is falling into place, and I'm, like. Now I'm, like, seeing, like, the exact

[Josh]

direction that you want to go in.

[Cheeky]

Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[Josh]

What made you want to pivot your music and make, like, a change? What? Was there something that, like, happened or inspired you to try something new?

[Cheeky]

Okay, so last year, I had a miscarriage in 2024.

[Josh]

Right.

[Cheeky]

And so from there, I feel like that was part of, like, in. In some ways, like, a rebirth.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And I was trying to prepare my body to have a baby, and I was like, okay, I really want to do it naturally. And I did ivf, and it was a very difficult process, so I wanted to kind of cleanse my body from all the hormones that I had taken, all the medication. So anyway, I started looking into natural ways of. Of cle. Cleansing, and I came across indigenous medicine, so plant medicine. And I went into that world, and I felt like I connected more with God. I felt like I cleansed my body. I feel better than ever. And it just inspired me to. To change my music for now. This is what I need to do right now.

[Josh]

Because it is a season of life.

[Cheeky]

Exactly. Exactly. And it feels like I'm finally aligned, and I'm, finally, like, really writing and singing music that is true to my heart, not just what's gonna. You think is gonna hit. You feel me? So it just feels very different. And I. Honestly, it's just because of that healing journey that I took that.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Cheeky]

And, you know, it just. It happened since 2024. I was like, something's happening. Something's changing. And then it did all of 2025. I felt like I was in a cocoon, like, preparing myself for this moment. And it was a difficult year, but I. You know, it was. I had a. It was part of it. It's part of. Dana got real deep so quick, so.

[Josh]

No, that's. That's fascinating. And obviously, dealing with that transition with your partner, like, how. How impactful with he was.

[Jess]

He.

[Josh]

You know, how much.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. I think he really appreciates, like, this newfound joy that I have in, like, this healing journey, because it changed our relationship.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

I became a better person.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's great.

[Cheeky]

I became a better partner. I. Everything that he had been kind of asking for, that I didn't know and it wasn't clear to me. It made it very clear for me. And I was like, that is my person. There is no doubt in my mind. I see his soul. You know what I mean?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And so for him, he's been super supportive.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And, you know, I think he's kind of like now tapping in. He wants to tap in a little bit into the world. Yeah.

[Jess]

Oh, cool.

[Josh]

Because going through change like that, you really learn a lot about yourself and you learn about your partner. Right. And just perspective and how they deal with that and navigate with that. And I feel like you can definitely fall more in love with somebody when they get to see you at. At a, I guess, like a transitional

[Cheeky]

period of your life or with like, like an onion. Like, it's like you take off all these layers and it's just your pure self.

[Jess]

Yeah. It's crazy how when you're in a relationship, you sometimes think about it and you're like, okay, well, you know, A and B, and this is us and this is how we act with each other. But if you practice, like, certain ways to talk to each other, certain things to do, there's so much more behind the person that you already think, you know.

[Cheeky]

Yes.

[Jess]

And like, there's so much to like, hatch.

[Cheeky]

Because we're ever like, we're always changing.

[Jess]

Yeah. That's the thing.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And like, if you're with somebody, understand that, like, that person that you're with isn't always gonna stay the same either. They both, hopefully. And it's a good thing. Change. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not the same person that my wife met. And neither is she.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And if you treat that person like you did before, it might not work.

[Cheeky]

It might not work.

[Josh]

So it's like you gotta grow and adapt.

[Jess]

To be in tuned with that person takes skill as well.

[Cheeky]

For sure.

[Jess]

And it's a muscle to grow that.

[Josh]

And you gotta want to.

[Jess]

Want to.

[Josh]

You know what I mean?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And that's very like, it's very, like, it's a. It's a testament to their love. Right. If they're willing to grow with you and be a part of that journey with you.

[Cheeky]

Exactly. The, like, through the good, the bad, the ugly, like.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

All of it. Yeah. And I. That's how I knew. I was like, dude, this guy's been with me and it was very difficult our. The first two years of our relationship, but he stuck around, and. And, you know, and I'm like, well, now I feel like, okay, I'm finally ready. Ready, you know?

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy how, like, you meet somebody new, you know, and, you know, probably past relationships and the beautiful thing about meeting somebody new is all the new things that they show you, that you're like, what you do that. You know what I mean? Like, you're down like that. Like, I didn't even ask for that. You know, it's like. Yeah, it's a beautiful feeling, and I'm glad that you found that.

[Cheeky]

Thank goodness.

[Jess]

You know, Emilia's probably gonna be watching this, and he better. And I've met him so many times. Such a good guy. Yeah, he's just so.

[Cheeky]

He's a good human being.

[Jess]

He just. He just cares about what he needs to be caring about, and, like, he doesn't care about anything else, and I love that.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And I hate when I. When I meet people, and it's just like, we're just talking about when we should be really talking about just, like, true life, you know? And Emilio's that guy.

[Cheeky]

He's that guy he loves.

[Josh]

I love that.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

I think he would get along with it.

[Jess]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

[Josh]

Maybe first he said, yeah, I don't

[Jess]

want him talking to you, dog. No, actually, funny story. Sorry. Talking about Josh, some guy at the gym. This is a good story about Josh, actually. Some guy at the gym went up to me and goes, hey, man. Like, I know Josh, and he did something really cool. His. His sister got diagnosed with leukemia recently. She's. Okay. I asked, you know, and he's like, he's actually a really good guy, man. I was like, yeah, I know. Why? I was like, you know, you. You meet people and. And you never know, Right? Like, there's a way that they portray themselves and, you know, but when you meet them in real life, you know, it's different, I guess. You sent her sister, like, a huge care package of Salute. And what she needs right now is, like, a lot of hydration and things that would help her with her immunity, I guess.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And, yeah, he was like, oh. He was like, really, like. Like, telling me this as, like. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Just, like, very emotionally, and I was like, wow. I was like, I had to be serious for a little bit, and I

[Josh]

was like, oh, wait, this is real talk.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah, bro. Josh is a really good guy. Really good guy. Yeah. But. Yeah, that was really nice of you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And I guess that's like. And I guess he's super into supplements.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

So he kept giving her stuff and then until he gave her something that's all she wants to drink.

[Cheeky]

That's tight.

[Josh]

Well, it's crazy because I, Yeah, I met him at the gym and he opened up to me pretty like quickly and was telling me about his sister and he just kind of briefly mentioned that his sister needs to be drinking water to stay hydrated and salud has been like the only thing that has helped her drink water.

[Jess]

So.

[Josh]

I mean, dude, I've never been in a situation like that where somebody's dealing with something that, like, I don't know, serious, you know, thank God. And I'm sure you never know where life is going to go.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But anyways, I just, when I heard that, I was like, I would love to send her a massive care bag.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It feels so insignificant when somebody's dealing with something like that.

[Jess]

But yeah, it's like the fact that you remembered. You remember.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's true. Well, I did it immediately.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Luana]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Good.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

So new music and then how, how was the feeling when you actually. I mean, I can't even imagine the feelings that you had when. I don't know, like, let's just pretend there was a send button out to the world. Right. And like how, first of all, how was that feeling? And then the feeling of the reaction of your fans, your family, that's.

[Josh]

The send button thing is kind of crazy.

[Jess]

Well, it's like a real thing. Like they're actually. Is there a send button?

[Josh]

Is it like, okay, like, release?

[Cheeky]

Like there is, is. It's like a whole process. Right. But at the end of the day it is like kind of. It's just a link that you're like, okay, this is the mastered version of your album and it's. You've kept it right here for so many months and then you just send it off to the world and it's just like, it's un. Like, it's just. I can't even explain it. Like, you get. It's nerve wracking.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

You know, you're like, oh my God, this little thing that. It's my little secret and I'm letting it go and it's like, oh. And then so many opinions.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And you have to learn to just quiet that down. And it took me a long time and just be like, I did that and it's in my heart's there and it's going to get to the people that it needs, especially with this album that I'm doing.

[Josh]

And that's so crazy that, like, this is, like, your heart, that you're, like, dude, showcasing, right?

[Cheeky]

Yeah, Especially this one.

[Josh]

Yeah. Because we do this podcast, and this is the most vulnerable I've ever been, like, since I've been on social media. But, like, we're still guarded, but with music, you got to let all those guards down 100%, you know? And that's where you really make the biggest impact, right? When you just like, this is me.

[Cheeky]

This is me. And this is where I'm at.

[Jess]

This album is. And, bro, she's not talking. She's singing.

[Josh]

Right?

[Jess]

Imagine, like, how cool is that, being an artist. Like, you're so lucky you can sing.

[Cheeky]

Thanks, dude.

[Jess]

Like, the art. Yeah. But, like, I can learn, too, but I won't get there, you know? Like, that is such a cool thing to do.

[Josh]

Do you get, like, emotion? Do you get emotional when you're in the booth, like, with an album like this?

[Cheeky]

Oh, my God, the amount of times that I cried recording this entire album, I can't even count, like, writing the songs. The songs were poems from my heart where I was like, these are. This is real to me. And then I took those poems and I did, like, a whole songwriting camp for three days.

[Josh]

Oh, that's cool.

[Cheeky]

For three days. And we did this, like, meditation we did every day. We did breath work samples, and that's how we started our day. And then we would go into rooms and write together.

[Josh]

That's cool.

[Cheeky]

So the entire process has been absolutely so beautiful. I did everything completely different. So, like, when I went to the studio and I saw that this poem turned into a song, and now I'm singing it, dude. Just that alone was overwhelming of just like, whoa. This really came to life. It was an idea, a scary idea, because I walked away from my record label from a crazy deal because they wanted me to do one that. And I was like, I don't want to do Banda right now. Yeah, I need to do this. If I don't listen to this, it's really going to send me in a different direction and not a good one. I said, I need to do this. This basically, like, saved me. I feel.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. So whole ass freaking answer. But yes. Tell you. Yes, it was. It was completely like. It's. It's. And it's called Janae. The album is Janae. So that's my name.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Real name. Yeah, my mom's name. My mom was Dolores Janae Rivera.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Cheeky]

And I'm Janae Sanchez now.

[Josh]

So it's like stripped down.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, completely stripped down. I mean, the COVID was. And this is all exclusive. I haven't talked to anyone about this, by the way.

[Josh]

Exclusive.

[Cheeky]

And. And no. And I just even was talking to my manager on the way here and I was like, I want to. I swear to you, this is a real conversation. I don't think I want to go do promo for this album. I just want to do podcasts and you guys are the first one.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Cheeky]

I didn't want to. I don't want to do traditional media.

[Josh]

Can I tell you, I think that's a very smart move.

[Cheeky]

Thanks, dude.

[Josh]

Because yeah, it's less curated. And look at how we fell into this conversation even immediately. Like, we got.

[Jess]

This wasn't planned. No, not at all.

[Josh]

And I think this is like the best way to like really get a showcase and talk about your experience, your vision. So I think that was a good move.

[Cheeky]

Cuz it was just. I mean, obviously it's scary cuz everything with this whole thing has been scary where I'm like, I'm going to take a leap of faith here and I'm going to take a risk, but I just need to listen to my intuition more than ever. But.

[Jess]

Wow, how exciting.

[Josh]

What a. Are you more nervous for this album than like any other music you've released?

[Cheeky]

No, I'm more excited. Oh, cool. Than ever. My other albums made me more nervous. I was just like, oh my gosh, you're gonna just criticize me. And I don't sound like my mom and I don't. So it was always that pressure and it's like, now I don't have that pressure. And it made me. I'm thankful for Vanda. Like, Vanda was my school. I love. That's my thing. I still. It runs through my blood, but it just like, I feel like it wasn't allowing me to artistically express myself the way I'm doing it with this album. So I'm super excited. Like, I want you guys to listen to this so you could know and hear a can sing. Even though. You know what I mean?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Because for a long time it was that thing of like, oh, no, she can't sing or she doesn't. And I'm like, no, it was just. I wasn't allowing myself to be my true self either. So that's just some. That's like for real. That's.

[Jess]

I mean, you just speaking and me hearing you, I can't feel it. Yeah, you know, I can feel it.

[Cheeky]

Thank you.

[Jess]

That's good. Yeah.

[Josh]

What genre would you say this album is?

[Cheeky]

I was just talking to my manager about that right now because, like, where are we gonna submit this album for the Grammys? You know, and. Because, you know, I was like, you know, let's. You know. Anyway, it's. It's hard to say, dude, because it's very spiritual.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

But it's pop.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

But not popish. So it's like Floro pop.

[Josh]

Oh, wow. I don't know why I was getting.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Josh]

I was getting. I was getting more of that R and B neo soul.

[Cheeky]

It's there. I have R and B. I have songs in English. Like, it's. It's very. It's very Jana. It's everything that I love.

[Jess]

It's what you hear.

[Cheeky]

It's what I listen to every day. The.

[Jess]

If it's not with the next song is not the same genre. It's like, with what you want.

[Cheeky]

It's what I'm. Exactly. I'm just expressing myself musically. And I played a lot with my voice and.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

In the instruments and I like, did fusions and it's just. There's nothing like it. The album is continuous. Wow.

[Jess]

So it doesn't stop.

[Josh]

Oh, no way.

[Jess]

I love those albums.

[Cheeky]

On some Pink Floyd.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

I love those albums.

[Cheeky]

And that's. I'm going to tell you right now, that was my biggest inspiration. Pink Floyd. My biggest influence. One of.

[Jess]

Yeah. Which was. I was going to ask, as an artist, was there some artists that you listened to that inspired. Inspired you not just like, oh, I want to do it like his or hers, but like, kind of like. Yeah, you know, like some inspiration. Like, are there any artists that you kind of took some inspo from? And if so, like, maybe name a couple.

[Cheeky]

Okay, so Bob Marley.

[Jess]

Oh, okay. Sick.

[Cheeky]

You see the movie Sade, Cleo Soul. Huge.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Cheeky]

Who else also? Well, Pink Floyd was huge, especially with the continuous album.

[Josh]

Like, the creative direction.

[Cheeky]

The creative direction of like, just do whatever the hell you want. And they just did it. That's kind of what I did. I said, I want it continuous. I want people to listen to it from top to bottom.

[Jess]

The fact that he said, sorry, I love.

[Cheeky]

She's. She's the best, honestly.

[Jess]

Supposedly, she's going on tour. I keep hearing that.

[Cheeky]

That's what I saw. And I don't know if someone's just like, playing in April Fool's joke on us.

[Josh]

That would be crazy.

[Jess]

That would be sick.

[Josh]

Just immediately. Do you have a single check that you're dropping?

[Cheeky]

Yes. So I have on this album, we've Done. Volvi. And then Eris Mass. And now we're gonna do a third one called Malibu.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

And it's. That's with the collab. I'm not sure if I'm. You could say whatever I want.

[Jess]

You if you want to say whatever I want. If not, we can.

[Cheeky]

You guys know who. Yeah, I'm sure you guys know who Jesse Joy is.

[Josh]

Is Jesse.

[Jess]

Jesse Joy.

[Cheeky]

Jess, you know Jesse Joy. Okay. Yes. Okay.

[Jess]

Can you look.

[Josh]

Can you just. Can you. Can I get a Google.

[Luana]

The Cor.

[Cheeky]

Well, yes, the Cor. Uhhuh. Josh, you speak Spanish or No? Yeah. Okay.

[Josh]

Okay. Can you put it in your little Google machine?

[Cheeky]

Okay, we'll cut this out.

[Jess]

Cor.

[Josh]

Were you listening to Money in the Grave? Jaz.

[Jess]

No, she was.

[Josh]

She was.

[Luana]

Talk about what? When I was looking at the Drake stuff last time.

[Jess]

Oh, yes. Wow. Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's the Malibu. That's the song with her.

[Cheeky]

Yes. Huh. So. So that's. That'll be the third. The third single. So that comes out, I think, next week sometime.

[Jess]

No way. What an exciting month you have.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So you've already dropped two singles.

[Cheeky]

Two singles.

[Jess]

Oh, shoot.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, so they're very. I mean. Yeah. I mean, Volvi did really well. Like, you know, but yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Josh]

That's cool.

[Jess]

And then obviously, one of those things is the one that you showed me at the beach. Right.

[Cheeky]

Okay, so that was on the first part. So that was on Flores and Mi Alma. That one. Flores de mi Alma. No, Flores and Miyama. Sorry. Dang, girl.

[Jess]

Remember your own.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Okay, so Flores and Mi Alma. And then that was part. That was like a little. What is it called? Episode. So a little short little version of like, an intro of, like, Let me show you what's coming sort of thing. Yeah, yeah.

[Jess]

And then what, you're just gonna go on tour and.

[Cheeky]

Well, that's another heavy conversation I had today that I'm like. I think I had. I had the plan of, like, having a whole full tour, but I think I'm gonna do it, like, on a smaller, more intimate scale, I think with what I want to do with the sound bowls and meditation and breath work. I think it needs to be more about. Yeah. Of a contained atmosphere. Atmosphere.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Cheeky]

Versus, like, a theater. I was doing a theater tour or, you know, I mean.

[Josh]

But yeah, you're gonna do sound baths in for the show.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's cool.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm playing, like, the. The singing bowls, and I do, like. So I have. It was. I've only had one Show. But the whole thing was I made people take, you know, do breath work and like, release something that they were holding. Like, whether it be self. Self doubt or insecurity, whatever it is that they came. And then I had them rip the paper. It was like a whole, like, meditation section in the show. So very different.

[Josh]

That's crazy. Were people, like, laying down?

[Cheeky]

No, they were just sitting. I was like, get as comfortable as you can. Close your eyes if you feel it. But some people were being a little silly, you know, because alcohol was involved, which is fine, I understand. But like, it's like, you know, I think in a atmosphere like that, or what I want to create, I think it's best to just drink alcohol later.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Not during the show, I feel. But it was cool. I made it a part of the show and everyone laughed and it was tight.

[Josh]

But I will say so. I've done one sound bath, like, years ago, and at first it's kind of like you feel a little, like, silly, right?

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because you don't really know. But then when you really get into it, it's such a unique experience.

[Cheeky]

You close your eyes and you go somewhere else.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Because it's. It's. That sound really is.

[Josh]

Carries it, like the vibrations of it. It's very.

[Cheeky]

Feel it.

[Josh]

Yeah, you feel it. It's so like, I did it laying down. That's why I was asking.

[Jess]

Skin.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Because it's so much better. Yeah, for sure. And to be completely relaxed.

[Jess]

Yeah. The benefits are just mainly like, relaxation.

[Cheeky]

Right, Relaxation. And also releasing. They could help you release emotions that are, like, deeply. Yeah. That maybe you're repressing or like, you know, that you're not even aware of subconsciously. And it just starts coming out with certain songs or just depending also of, like, the intention you set. But it will help you release emotions. I mean, I'll cry sometimes where I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm feeling, you know, whatever. And then I feel lighter after.

[Josh]

Not to get vulnerable, but, like, I've had. Have you ever had moments where, like, you feel emotional, you don't know what you're holding on to, and you just kind of start crying. It'll be like the littlest thing that just kind of sets you off.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I'm like, what am I holding on to?

[Cheeky]

Yeah. I cry a lot in the shower. I love it.

[Jess]

Yeah, crying.

[Josh]

The shower is the best.

[Cheeky]

The best.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

In the shower. We should make the remix.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

No, but for real. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Just like today, you know, I told you guys when I Was like, I'm just having one of those days. It's just like. I'm just, you know. Don't you guys have one of those. Some of those days where you just. You just have no ambition to do anything?

[Cheeky]

I get you.

[Josh]

I think that's.

[Jess]

Yeah. I feel like I'm just like. I don't know, I don't even want to feel like I'm like overloading on work or nothing. Cuz I'm not. But it's just like. You just. I don't know, it's almost like life hits you. Not in a. Like a. Like a struggling way. Like I'm. It almost hits me like, damn, I'm really alive right now. And it's almost scary. You don't ever feel that way.

[Cheeky]

I know what you're talking about.

[Jess]

Like, it's not that I'm stressing out about life or work or something that I need to pay or. It's not that. It's just. It's real.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

It's like, damn, I'm really alive. And like, life is kind of scary, dude.

[Cheeky]

Yes.

[Jess]

And like, I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. It's almost like I'm paranoid that something's gonna happen too.

[Josh]

Something bad.

[Jess]

Something bad or like. Like maybe I should be more careful. I think it's weird. I don't want to say I'm scared. Like, it's just like. Maybe it's like. I don't know, it's kind of deep. But it's not that. I'm like being quiet because I know something bad's gonna happen eventually. Whether that be with me or somebody. But. Yeah, I get like, that. Ain't that weird?

[Cheeky]

Yeah, no, no, I. I get it.

[Josh]

I get that too.

[Cheeky]

It's really.

[Jess]

That too, you know, like, it's like, hey, just so you know, like you're living your life, but like it kind of shakes me a little bit and just like. Just remember that like the real world is still here. Yeah. You know.

[Josh]

No, I get you.

[Jess]

Anyways, people are at the moon right now, right?

[Josh]

They just took off today.

[Jess]

Yeah. Yeah, they just took off today.

[Josh]

I was watching it. No, bro.

[Jess]

But dude. Yeah, they haven't gone like.

[Josh]

Can you believe that?

[Jess]

He told me that today.

[Josh]

Yeah, I was watching it. Yeah, they took off today. I saw the whole lot.

[Jess]

Why didn't they say anything? Why isn't it a big deal?

[Josh]

I. I was kind of shocked too. I saw it on Tik Tok. Some girl, like, casually talked about it.

[Cheeky]

I have no idea. This Is news to me.

[Josh]

So I put it on the news and yeah, and I saw the whole thing. I literally saw it live, bro. I literally saw them go like 5, 4 in the rocket.

[Jess]

Don't they have like a live thing in their cockpit right now? Yeah, they probably in space already.

[Josh]

They're going to be in space. They're going to the moon. First time in like 50, 60 years. And it's gonna be a 10 day mission. I don't know if they're actually gonna go like, if they're gonna stop in the moon or they're just gonna like orbit around it, but I know this is gonna be. They're gonna set the record for being the furthest humans away from Earth ever. So.

[Cheeky]

Man, I hope everything goes the moon.

[Jess]

Yeah, the moon, the moon. Yeah. Even like that gives me anxiety sometimes. I'm looking at the moon, it's just

[Cheeky]

like, holy, there's a whole other world bigger. And like.

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah. And then I trip out when they start talking about, so they are gonna

[Josh]

stay at the moon. Damn.

[Luana]

They, this is the first mission that's going to determine if they're able to like establish a base on the moon.

[Jess]

I don't know.

[Cheeky]

They shouldn't be with the moon, you know?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Honestly.

[Jess]

Honestly, we say like, oh, that's so cool, but there's real people sacrificing their lives to do some like, crazy.

[Cheeky]

Thank you. Actually, that's. Wow. Yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, that's kind of scary.

[Cheeky]

Sometimes there are things that I'm like just, you gotta just leave certain things alone in my opinion. There's just certain things, but. Okay, like, you know. You know. But that is cool though.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Just saying.

[Jess]

I, I, I believe that some things you got to leave by themselves, but there's no way to learn from outside of like what we're used to. If somebody doesn't risk some their lives.

[Cheeky]

It's true. You know, we can't like grow and become even bigger and better.

[Jess]

Isn't that crazy that like humanity will learn more if we risk lives?

[Cheeky]

Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, porcasiscomos, even with like food

[Josh]

and medication and all that stuff, you, you know, somebody has to, you kind of have to risk it to a degree. To a certain degree, yeah.

[Cheeky]

Or the little mice.

[Josh]

Oh, I know.

[Jess]

Little babies. I know. I feel bad.

[Josh]

It's kind of crazy to be like, oh, something happened with the mice, so maybe we humans shouldn't do it or, you know what I mean? Like, that's the determining thing, whether humans do it, like animals or mice and stuff. It's crazy.

[Jess]

It's. It's wild. And that's why it's like so many people are so against it because it's wrong. Because a mice shouldn't determine whether it gets better poisoned or not compared to a human being.

[Josh]

So you think that like, mices have souls?

[Cheeky]

Yeah, I do. I think every living. Even a plant, I feel like everything that's living in, like, I just. I feel like they have a soul.

[Jess]

Yeah. There has to be something, right? Even if it's not the same type of soul we do. They feel for sure, but they feel something.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Cuz I mean, if. If you were to like step on its little foot, you know, for sure it's going to like, feel something. So to me, that's like. They feel there's a soul there.

[Jess]

No.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

I'm a big animal lover. Like, even some insects. I'm sorry. They can sacrifice. But. But most. Most animals, like even a ratoncito that I'll see outside or like, you know, being a homeowner, you sometimes find one and it's just like, you know, and I'm like, I don't want to kill you, dude. Yeah. Like, you're probably a really good chef.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Ratatouille. Ratatouille, yeah. Or just get a cat and the cat, like, it's like the. The circle of life.

[Jess]

And then that's when I don't.

[Cheeky]

Then I feel a little bit like I believe.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jess]

I believe in that. I believe in the. Yeah. The circle life. What is it called? The ecosystem.

[Josh]

Yeah, something like that.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

No, it did get cold in here. You don't have to turn. Yeah, it does. But.

[Josh]

Yeah, it gets cold. Pets me.

[Cheeky]

Yes. I have Poncho. He's an old English sheep dog. And then I have Ryu.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

They're both five and he's a multipoo.

[Josh]

Oh, nice.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. And then I do want to get a cat because I have a little bit of a. My situation outside my house. I swear. Talking about mice. No, because I have like bushes.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And we cleaned them out and everything. I think I need to get a cat.

[Jess]

Don't worry about it. It's not. It's not you. It's not your cleanliness. It's everybody. I spoke with the terminator bug guys or whatever because I. For a second I had that problem as well. You see those little. And you're like, what the. You know, you do so much things to like, kind of like get rid of them in a way. But it's. Everybody okay. Has mice problems. I Don't know. Are just multiplying.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Like crazy. Yeah. And I'm like, chiquitito. So, you know, they're having babies and everything. I'm like. So I'm like, let me just get a kitty.

[Jess]

Oh, you have a cat.

[Cheeky]

Oh, you want to get one?

[Jess]

You want to.

[Cheeky]

A cat in a fish tank?

[Jess]

A cat you want to put in the fish tank. I'm just kidding. I knew what you said, but I felt like it was gonna be a good joke. It was good, right?

[Cheeky]

Dude, this guy's. He's so funny.

[Josh]

He's hilarious. He's so funny.

[Jess]

You think I'm funny? You're used to me, right?

[Cheeky]

He's like. Yeah, he's like. He's. All right.

[Jess]

We actually have some fast fire rapid questions.

[Josh]

No, before we do that, I kind of want to go over the comments from the previous.

[Jess]

Oh, my God. I totally forgot about that. Yeah, let's do that.

[Josh]

Yeah. So as you guys know, we had Cheeky's on almost three years ago now, and we want to take a look back at some of the comments you guys left on that episode. I feel like this. Is that a way different episode. We got lit on that episode, if I'm not mistaken.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, we do get a little turning.

[Josh]

Yeah, we're so mature now.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. We grew up. We're on this wellness.

[Luana]

Yeah.

[Jess]

It feels good, though.

[Cheeky]

It feels good.

[Jess]

I love when I'm like, everyone's drinking, and you're like, damn, these fools are up. And I'm not. Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And I'm gonna wake up real good, you know?

[Jess]

Oh, my God,

[Josh]

so good tomorrow.

[Jess]

And then everybody else wakes up to. And they feel like. And then I just love to with them. You know, you're saying, I'm up, but,

[Cheeky]

like, let's go for a jog.

[Jess]

Yeah. They're nice, right, Jess?

[Cheeky]

They're Even if they're bad, too.

[Josh]

No, I was going to say bro.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Luana]

No, there was.

[Josh]

Unload them.

[Luana]

Honestly, there was no negative ones that I saw.

[Cheeky]

People always talk about that episode, by the way.

[Luana]

They always tell me, Life with Clao said, my absolute favorite episode. Cheeky energy matches your guys's energy. And it was like watching two brothers with her sister. You guys need to have her back on the podcast.

[Jess]

Done and done, years later. Wow. Wow. I agree with that.

[Luana]

This is that. Cheeky's energy is so refreshing. I love her. She's always hyping up and supporting the Latino.

[Jess]

That's right.

[Cheeky]

I love y'.

[Jess]

All.

[Josh]

That's right.

[Cheeky]

Thank you.

[Jess]

By the way, our, like, audience Is the best.

[Josh]

We have the best, honestly.

[Cheeky]

I know.

[Jess]

Yeah, they go hard for you guys.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, they go hard.

[Luana]

This next one says chicky. Says my spirit animal. She's the reason why I never gave up on myself after being in a separated parents, Latino household. Being the firstborn female with looks, growing up with siblings and taking that pressure of being the eldest and a female at the same time. So much pressure, blame, and scrutiny. Thank you.

[Jess]

Wow, that's a good one.

[Cheeky]

Wow, that's very good.

[Jess]

She said female with looks. Uhhuh.

[Cheeky]

Female with looks. Growing up with girl. I see you.

[Jess]

She's feeling herself. She. She got a big role.

[Luana]

This last one says, love this episode so, so much. Chiquis is such an inspiration to so many. I love her personality, energy, and she's just gorgeous.

[Josh]

Mad love.

[Luana]

Thank you for this amazing podcast. One of my favorites.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Cheeky]

Love that.

[Josh]

These are amazing.

[Cheeky]

Thanks, guys. No, I've gotten a lot of great comments. I saw you on la, or I didn't know who you were and then I saw you on la, I'm like, that's ti hon.

[Jess]

I'm going to have to admit, like, when you went on, I. I felt like me and Josh were doing something, you know, like, that's awesome.

[Josh]

That was a big moment for that.

[Jess]

The fact that we had you on, like, it was huge, you know?

[Josh]

Yeah, that was.

[Jess]

And then, like, we just became homies and stuff. So, like, yeah, now that I have you on, it's not that special anymore.

[Cheeky]

It's not like, it's just a little bit special.

[Josh]

It's like, whatever.

[Jess]

Now we're just friends, you know?

[Cheeky]

Whatever, dude.

[Jess]

No, of course not. But it was. It was amazing. And, like, to me, like, speaking just for myself, like, that's a big deal for me.

[Cheeky]

Oh, man.

[Jess]

You know, to have you on. You're a legend. Living legend.

[Cheeky]

You guys are legends. You guys are killing it. So I see you.

[Josh]

We're all doing it, baby. Yeah.

[Jess]

We're on strict diets. Chicken and rice, that's all we eat.

[Josh]

Weighing our food, not drinking at weddings.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Vibrating machines.

[Jess]

Whoa.

[Cheeky]

Red light therapy. Just a lot of stuff.

[Jess]

Yeah. Red light therapy. It's actually a real thing.

[Cheeky]

I love it, dude. I need it in my life.

[Jess]

You do?

[Josh]

Do you do just the face or do you have, like, the whole body one?

[Cheeky]

I have the face and the full body one.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Cheeky]

So there's times when I'll do the full body and I'll just.

[Jess]

What do you mean, full body?

[Josh]

It's almost like a. Yeah, like. Well, there's different.

[Jess]

You Lay on it.

[Josh]

There's ones that you can stand in front of. There's one that you can lay, like a. One of those tanning beds you do. There's different ones. There's ones you just put on your face.

[Jess]

Yeah. Karen has, like, the one that you go like this.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Yeah, that one's really. Yes.

[Josh]

But, yeah. See, it's like a tanning bed, but it's like a full red.

[Cheeky]

The one I have is the one where I stand in front of it.

[Josh]

So it's like a big. Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Jess]

It's magic.

[Cheeky]

There you go. Yeah.

[Jess]

Wasn't it crazy how, like, light is healing? Yeah. Especially red light.

[Cheeky]

Yes, it is.

[Josh]

Sometimes I feel like I don't believe it, you know? I'm like, damn. Like, this is working. Like, this is making a difference, but it does.

[Cheeky]

It works.

[Jess]

Lights aren't just something that glow and brighten up rooms or whatever you need. They have their own magic to them.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

I'm being serious, dude.

[Josh]

I mean, it's the first thing God demanded was light.

[Cheeky]

Let there be light.

[Josh]

No, I believe it.

[Cheeky]

I believe we all have our inner lights.

[Josh]

Yeah. Whoa.

[Cheeky]

Yes, we do.

[Jess]

We were talking about souls not so long ago.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

What?

[Josh]

When?

[Jess]

Like, our souls. And, like, if we hear about the mice.

[Josh]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Jess]

Yes.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

No, no, no. Not earlier today. Like, a couple episodes back.

[Josh]

Oh, you say we, like, we, we,

[Jess]

we, we, we French now or what?

[Josh]

You gotta clarify, bro.

[Jess]

I said we were talking about this couple. I didn't say that. But yeah.

[Cheeky]

So what happened?

[Jess]

So we were talking about, like. Like, souls and stuff. And, like. Why is this so funny, dude?

[Josh]

Go, go.

[Jess]

We. We. Go, go. And we were just kind of, like, going back and forth about, like, souls and, like, if we.

[Josh]

Let's get to the point, bro.

[Jess]

You're stopping me. Every time I talk, you keep saying

[Josh]

the same thing over and over again.

[Jess]

We were. We were. We were talking about souls.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

And if we're born with them or they've already existed and then they just kind of find us as babies, or if we're born with a soul and we create the soul.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

What do you. What do you think? Because it powers us.

[Cheeky]

Yes.

[Jess]

Right.

[Cheeky]

So this is what I think. Okay. So I think that we're all, like. We all come from stars. We're. We're star like dust.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

We're all interconnected, and then I think we're just giving a light that we have. It's our own little light. And then that light finds its way into some type of body and I believe in reincarnation. I feel that I've been here many times before. I've been a man. I've been. I. That's just my belief, really, because I feel like in this life, I feel like there are a lot of things that I know that just come to me naturally. I'm like, I was here before. This feels.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Cheeky]

There's certain times, like, you know.

[Josh]

So you carry elements of your past exactly. Into your.

[Cheeky]

And then that little light, just you. Okay, this body's done. And then that light travels to. I think it's heaven. I think it's whatever you want to call it. And then it comes and finds another body.

[Jess]

So.

[Josh]

Light.

[Cheeky]

It's a light. It's. It's a light. It's a soul. The light, the soul. It's. It's a one of a kind, like a. Like a fingerprint.

[Jess]

It's like. It's like. It's like how stars are born from. From like a bang. Like a little blast. Right.

[Cheeky]

Like a matter. And then it's. And then it becomes a light, and

[Jess]

it just kind of lasts forever.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. In your life.

[Jess]

Whoa. I've never heard it really like that. That's so.

[Cheeky]

I feel like each soul is. Is that. It's the little light, and it's one of a kind, and that's the one we have. And then if we don't learn the lessons, we come. We keep coming back here as something else, as another person.

[Jess]

I think you're saying if we don't learn our lessons.

[Josh]

No, I don't think that's.

[Jess]

We stay here.

[Cheeky]

So. Yes. So I feel like when you come, like, for me, I feel like. Okay. I think I've. I've done a lot of healing in this life. I think maybe I've been here so many times. This life was pretty difficult, but also very beautiful. But I think I've learned that. I don't know if I'm. And then I think that you go into eternal life once you've learned the lessons. I know this sounds so crazy right now.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

But.

[Jess]

But what is crazy, right? Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Right.

[Josh]

Like, I'm like, we all have no idea, right? Ultimately.

[Cheeky]

Ultimately, we don't. Yeah.

[Jess]

So it's not crazy.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. So I'm like, if you. If you don't learn your lesson in this lifetime, then you're gonna come back. I feel that little light is gonna find another body and kind of come back until you learn.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And you find your way and your purpose in. In this world.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

That's what I feel.

[Jess]

And the beautiful thing is that, like, me knowing that, like, that's kind of how you feel. Makes sense on how you are, right?

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Like, it makes sense on how you, like, move forward.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jess]

Right. So, like, that's the beauty of thinking whatever you want to think. Right. And, like, people back at home, they might have their own, like.

[Cheeky]

Exactly.

[Jess]

Definition or their own belief, and that's what makes it so beautiful of how they live their life.

[Cheeky]

Exactly. To me, it's like. Like there's one source. You guys. You guys believe in God or.

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cheeky]

I feel like there's one source. And however you get to that source, that's you. Like, whatever makes you connect. But at the end of the day, we all have to connect to that source, whether it's Christianity, being Catholic, Buddhism

[Josh]

or whatever you call it, like, the universe, God, Buddha.

[Cheeky]

It's just being a good person. Be a good person, treat people the way you want to be treated. And however you get to that source is your business. And we. Who are we to tell the other religion, oh, you're wrong.

[Jess]

Right?

[Cheeky]

No, like, that's their belief. Like, it's all just being a good human being at the end of the day. And that's why I'm like, my religion is love. That's what I'm. What's up? Love.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love is the ultimate for sure.

[Jess]

I love that.

[Josh]

It's crazy how people do get so, like, wrapped into, like, this is what it is. Like, even hearing you out right now, somebody would get upset about that. Like, no, you're wrong. Like, that's not what it is. Like, bro, how do you know, for one. You know what I mean? And why does that bother you that that's her belief? Yeah, that's what she feels.

[Cheeky]

Exactly. You know, and that's where we open, like, conversation. Be like, you could tell me, you know, I don't believe that. Cheeky. I'm like, that's okay. But you believe what you believe, and we can come to that mutual respect of this is my belief. Your belief. That doesn't mean we're not going to be friends.

[Jess]

You know what I mean?

[Cheeky]

Like, I don't know. And that's. That's. I think what's missing in the world. It's like, but my way or no way.

[Josh]

But I also think it's kind of, like, crazy to think, like, that, you know that you know that. You know, because you believe that. But do you know that you know that, you know, probably not. Right? And you're open to, like, maybe that's not it. You know, maybe there's, there's a whole different purpose, there's a whole different meaning.

[Cheeky]

I'm down to listen to someone else and maybe that makes more sense.

[Josh]

Right? Yeah, maybe that resonates with you or I don't know, just click something different. So I think like that openness is like good to have.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

[Jess]

Just be like, like being narrow minded. Yeah. Because like you said, there might be a lot of people that, that'll upset them. Right. But there's also a shitload of people that are like, yeah, interesting.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

You know what? I kind of thought about that before. You know, like me listening to you right now, I'm like, okay, I like that. Right. Like, and I take that. And I think it's beautiful to take that from. You take that from however you believe.

[Cheeky]

Exactly.

[Jess]

And if I respect you and I think you're a great person, I want some of that. I want some of your, your, your thoughts and your energy. Like my friend the other day, he sent me this like crazy, you know those reels or tick tocks and it's like, like, do you want to trip out on something super crazy? And it was like, do you think this is crazy? Wait till you hear this. Dinosaurs aren't real. And then, and then the whole thing was like people just covering it up because back in the day it was. The world was ran by giants and dragons.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Jess]

I don't know if you saw that.

[Josh]

I've heard this. I've heard of this.

[Jess]

Giants and dragons ruled the world. Who knows when? Millions of years ago. Who knows? Millions, whatever. Yeah, I don't know. But I didn't, I didn't even say. I didn't even like DM my friend back and was like, that's so stupid, stupid thing ever heard. What I said was like, yeah, why wouldn't I believe that? Because we don't know.

[Cheeky]

We don't know.

[Jess]

You know, and that would be sick.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Because I love House of the Dragon, dude.

[Cheeky]

I do believe that there were in some. I mean, Earth has been here for how many freaking billions and billions? Yeah, I'm sure there were dinosaurs and then there were also dragons and, and giants. I really think so.

[Jess]

Yeah. I mean, and if you think about it, these people that are making up these. Well, they're not making up. They're using, you know, real strong, I guess, theories. Theories. Yeah, theory. Sorry, that was like, that word is really American for me. Theory. You know, they're, they're using strong theories, which I respect, but I Always think to myself, like, if I hung out with these who are making this up,

[Josh]

they might be able to convince you.

[Jess]

No, I'm like, I probably wouldn't want to. I wouldn't like hanging out with these guys, you know, But I'm believing them. Does that make any sense?

[Cheeky]

Like, what do you mean? Okay, okay.

[Jess]

So, like, go back, I think about what we know. Right. Well, we know what we understand in this world, and they're very intelligent people who make these. These really smart theories of, like, the dinosaurs and.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

This type of dinosaur, the scientific name of it, was born in millions of years ago. And we tend to believe it because somebody else said it.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jess]

But then I'm always like, if I hung out with that person, would I hang out with them or do what? I think they're ridiculous or would I even get along with them?

[Cheeky]

Oh, okay.

[Jess]

Got it. You know, so then. Then I put myself back on this seat, and then I'm like, I can

[Josh]

make up like that, too, if you're convincing.

[Jess]

Obviously, I don't have the credentials, but I'm just saying, who are these people? Yeah. And if you have a big statement like that, I think they should, like, state their name and who they are, where they're from.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Straight up. Yeah. You know?

[Jess]

Okay. Yeah. But isn't that crazy? They say, like, there's no such thing as dinosaurs.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

I don't know what to do.

[Cheeky]

No, for sure there were dinosaurs.

[Josh]

I mean, don't we have, like, evidence?

[Cheeky]

Like, there's fossils, like, yeah, they have to go to the.

[Josh]

The timeline. That's the stuff that, like, kind of trips me out, you know, when they're like. Like, there was nothing on earth for like 60 million years or whatever, and that it rained for a million years. Those kind of things. I'm like, that's kind of crazy. But who knows?

[Cheeky]

We'll never know.

[Josh]

And let me tell you something. I don't. Like, ultimately, I care, but I'm like, I'm so. I have so much going on in my life to me to get fixated on if it rained or didn't rain for a million years on Earth. Like.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. You're like, you know, I got bigger

[Josh]

problems to worry about, sweetheart. You know?

[Jess]

Yeah, that is true.

[Josh]

True. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'm not gonna debate you. I'm not gonna go to, like, the end of the Earth because some people will.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

You gotta just pick your battles with people.

[Cheeky]

Exactly.

[Josh]

And you get for your own piece.

[Cheeky]

And then you're just Kind of like my brain only has room for this type of stuff. I don't really need that stuff. So I'm just gonna put it to the side because I'm, you know, occupied. That's what I've. I've learned.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

But I just have to like, whatever interests me.

[Jess]

Yeah. Other than like your career and what you have going on, because I know you're super busy, but like, like you said as we get older and it just kind of like, like popped in my head. Like, what are the things that, like, there's no way you're not doing it that day. Like, because you're like, with your routine.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Like, what are some things that, like, there's no way that you have to do?

[Cheeky]

I have to do every day is connect. Whether I connect through prayer, through meditation, through breath, work through stretching, sometimes I'll just go outside and literally just, you know, walk barefoot on my grass and let the sun hit me. And that's me connecting. Like. Yeah. Earthing. That's super important to me. If I start my day off with like looking at my phone and what's on Instagram and whatever I don't have. I don't have a very good day. I need to just not for like the first hour of my day, don't look at the phone. I usually try to have it on do not disturb. And then I just. Whatever it is that I need to do to connect and to pray and with God, you know, for me, that's one thing that's non negotiable. Like it just kind of sets you.

[Jess]

I love that.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Even if I'm on vacation and there's times where I'm like, oh, you know, I partied or whatever, and then I. I don't wake up and I don't do it and it's a shorter thing, but when I don't do it as consistently as. As I need it, I'm off.

[Jess]

You feel it?

[Cheeky]

I feel it.

[Jess]

No way.

[Cheeky]

My mood is off. I'm. I'm off. I'm off completely.

[Jess]

You know what's crazy is that I've. I believe in like connecting like that as well. But he said that I can't because. Here comes a joke.

[Cheeky]

Ready?

[Jess]

He said that I can't because I have fake grass in my backyard. So he says that I can't earth it that well. Earth it very well.

[Cheeky]

You do need real grass to earth.

[Jess]

Okay, so I do know.

[Cheeky]

But you can also just rub your feet barefoot like this. And that's also grounding you.

[Jess]

Oh, okay, sure.

[Cheeky]

You can bear yours barefoot. Like, you're too little. Cheese.

[Jess]

Ew. Gargoyle ass feet.

[Cheeky]

They also have, like, grounding mats now.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like actual grass.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

That's pretty sick.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, they have ground mad. So, yeah, I was gonna do turf because of the water and because I didn't want it, but then I was like, no, I'm. You know, it does look beautiful. The church just looks nice.

[Josh]

It's cleaner.

[Jess]

It's a great idea, landscaping. You don't got to pay them that much because they ain't got nothing much to do.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. You don't have to worry about the sprinklers. No, trust me. I went. I was, like, looking.

[Josh]

Yeah. But you did grass.

[Cheeky]

I did, yeah. I kept the grass because I was like, yeah. And now. And now I'm happy about it because I get to ground.

[Jess]

But that's cool. That's awesome. And then after that. What?

[Cheeky]

After that? I work out, usually. Yeah, I like to work out. Either do cardio or my weightlifting with my trainer, but that's usually, like. I try to do that three to five times a week.

[Jess]

You're a big coffee drinker?

[Cheeky]

I'm more of a green tea drinker, really. I love green tea with honey and my collagen. Is it?

[Josh]

Yeah. Do you do any kind of caffeine

[Cheeky]

drinks, like, and, like, energy drinks and stuff? Not really.

[Josh]

Oh, so green tea, huh?

[Cheeky]

But I love the energy and focus you guys have. No, I swear to you, I drink them. Like, I love them.

[Josh]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Cheeky]

I love it. So. But, yeah, I try not to do any energy drinks. Yeah, I do coffee once in a while, but I try not to. I'm more of like, a matcha green tea girl.

[Jess]

Matcha's good.

[Cheeky]

I love matcha.

[Josh]

I haven't got into it.

[Cheeky]

No.

[Josh]

I don't get it. I don't get the high.

[Cheeky]

No. What's your kind of favorite milk? What do you.

[Josh]

Honestly. Probably oat milk.

[Cheeky]

Okay.

[Josh]

But because of the calories, I'll do almond milk.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, also, oat milk supposedly not good for our gut. I used to drink nothing but oat milk.

[Jess]

Really?

[Cheeky]

Everything. So I'm just like. But yeah, I do almond milk.

[Josh]

But isn't it, like, everybody's different, so it might affect you differently than.

[Cheeky]

Yes.

[Josh]

Right.

[Cheeky]

See, a lot of people are like, this is the only way for everybody. But everyone has different blood type. That's something to take into consideration. And literally, everybody is different. Everybody. Yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah, 100%.

[Josh]

I saw this tik tok where they were saying, Like, Noah's Ark had eight people on it, and there's eight different blood types.

[Jess]

What?

[Josh]

Can you look this up? I literally just thought. But I was one of those, like, things where I'm like, is this a random person just saying something random on Tik Tok? But I'm like, if that's true, that's kind of crazy. So there was eight people on Noah's Ark, and there's eight different blood types.

[Cheeky]

I believe Nora's ark for sure happened.

[Jess]

What's the story of Noah's Ark again?

[Josh]

God said that there was going to be. He was going to flood the Earth, and he had Noah build a boat and he told people, like, God's going to flood the earth. That's why I'm building.

[Cheeky]

People were saying he was crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. And then he brought. Is this true, Jess?

[Luana]

Allegedly. Noah, his wife, their three sons, and their wives, bro.

[Josh]

How crazy is that?

[Jess]

That's a sick story.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Do you guys know your blood type?

[Jess]

No.

[Josh]

No.

[Jess]

Do you?

[Cheeky]

You guys should know it. Try to. Yeah. Next time you get blood work, just ask them. I do. I know mine. I'm all positive, bro.

[Josh]

I'm still tripping out.

[Jess]

So this is accurate according to biblical tradition.

[Cheeky]

I mean. Yeah. And everyone literally does have, like, you know, and there's more. There's blood that's rarer than the other.

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah.

[Cheeky]

But. Yeah.

[Josh]

What's crazy is that when the Noah's Ark thing happened, or even when the Bible was written, I'm sure people didn't know that there was only eight blood types. You know what I mean? So it wasn't like they did, like. Okay, let's kind of figure this out. You know what I mean?

[Cheeky]

Maybe there were more before 15 or something. I don't know.

[Jess]

Sure.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

But then that's. Yeah. I had never heard that part, by the way, of Noah's Ark, of the eight people.

[Josh]

Me neither.

[Cheeky]

I had.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cheeky]

I'm gonna ask Jenica.

[Josh]

And they're. Yeah, that's. That's interesting, bro. But yeah, that's. And they say that they know where Noah's Ark is. Like, it's in Turkey.

[Cheeky]

Oh, wow.

[Jess]

Yeah, I believe it. Have you been a Turkey? It looks like that will be there.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That being Noah's Ark, that thing.

[Jess]

Well, 100 turkey looks like a lot like when I first went to Turkey there. It's so beautiful. It's like. Like Aladdin, the movie. I see. It's beautiful.

[Cheeky]

Nice. I need to go check this out, bro.

[Jess]

According to the Bible. Noah's ark landed on the mountains of Arara, generally believed to be modern day Eastern Turkey.

[Cheeky]

Wow. Dang, that's dope.

[Jess]

So it's under that mountain?

[Josh]

That's what they say. That's what they say. Allegedly, they have, like, three artifacts from Jesus that kind of, like, show his evidence. They. Apparently, they have his crown with the. Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Who?

[Josh]

Like a church. They have it. You can look this up too, Jess.

[Cheeky]

The crown that he was wearing when he got crucified.

[Josh]

And they also have. Apparently when he was walking down, there was, like, the towel. Yeah, the towel. The towel.

[Cheeky]

The towel where he.

[Jess]

Yes.

[Cheeky]

That someone gave him to.

[Josh]

Yeah. Because he was bleeding, and a lady, like, obviously wanted to help him, so he, like, wiped his blood on the towel, and it left a perfect imprint of his face.

[Jess]

Oh, my God.

[Cheeky]

I love Jesus.

[Josh]

Do. Me too. I get. She was talking about.

[Cheeky]

But, like.

[Josh]

And then even the. The. The. The shrine where he was, like, wrapped after he got crucified.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Have you been to Israel?

[Josh]

I've never been.

[Cheeky]

Dude, that's a trip you got to take. Yeah, you would if you. Yeah, you have.

[Jess]

You have been.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah, I would love to go.

[Josh]

Did you get. Did you see where he got baptized? Like.

[Cheeky]

Yes. And in his. In his house where.

[Josh]

John the Baptist.

[Cheeky]

Yes. Dude, it's just. It's amazing. It's so beautiful.

[Jess]

The Holy Land.

[Cheeky]

The Holy Land. Yeah.

[Jess]

And it looks like. Is that Jerusalem or, like, some part in the Middle east where there's a. It's almost like a canal and there's a huge cliff and there's like a door in the middle or like an opening?

[Cheeky]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Are you talking about, bro? Where it's like. It's like a city that's, like, built into the rock.

[Jess]

It looks like it.

[Cheeky]

I think that might be.

[Josh]

What are you looking at, Jeff?

[Luana]

I literally. What Savva said. Where. Is there a wall with a door

[Cheeky]

in the Middle East?

[Luana]

I don't know.

[Cheeky]

See, probably. That's probably, like, Jerusalem. I think it's.

[Jess]

It's this wall on a cliff. It looks like a.

[Josh]

A rock and made out of stone.

[Jess]

People always visit. Visit it.

[Cheeky]

I don't know.

[Jess]

It's not that important.

[Josh]

Visited is kind of, like, edited. Edited.

[Cheeky]

There's some words that bug me, man.

[Josh]

Right? Like, you guys.

[Jess]

What word bugs you?

[Cheeky]

Okay. On the. Okay. The word island bothers me because it's. It's filled. Island.

[Josh]

Island.

[Cheeky]

Why? And like. Like. Like. Like depot. Like, there's a T. Why can't I pronounce the damn T? Why do they make it more difficult, like in Spanish? It is what it is. You know what I mean? Yeah, but there's certain words.

[Josh]

English.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Have you seen the word colonel, how that's spelled?

[Cheeky]

No.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah, dude, pull up colonel.

[Josh]

There's no. There's no colonel in Colonel.

[Jess]

But the thing is colonel popcorn. Oh, no, that's kettle.

[Cheeky]

Or like, knives just can't even spell it.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Look at how colonel is spelled. C O, L, O, N, E, L. What?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

What?

[Jess]

That's how you spell it.

[Josh]

That's how you spell colonel on the right. Yes. No way. I promise you did.

[Cheeky]

Oh, my. I never know how to spell that.

[Josh]

No, I would have.

[Cheeky]

No mind.

[Jess]

Yeah, you would have lost the spelling, dude.

[Cheeky]

Hell yeah, I would have.

[Josh]

That's like. That's crazy.

[Jess]

Colonel.

[Cheeky]

Oh, my.

[Josh]

C. Oh, I would have spelled it like this. Or. No, I. No, I wouldn't have spelled it like that.

[Cheeky]

K, E, R. No, that. That is. See, those are the type of words that bug me, like.

[Jess]

Yeah, dude, you know what word really grinds my gears?

[Cheeky]

Which one?

[Jess]

Route.

[Cheeky]

Route.

[Jess]

R, O, U, T, E. Okay, is

[Cheeky]

it route or is it root?

[Jess]

Exactly.

[Cheeky]

Tomato. Tomato.

[Josh]

Well, root is like the tree roots. Right. Route.

[Cheeky]

Because sometimes be like, oh, take this route.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And I would say to take this route.

[Jess]

I would say route.

[Cheeky]

Uhhuh. Or like, oh, neither or neither or, you know.

[Jess]

Oh, neither. Neither.

[Cheeky]

Neither or neither.

[Jess]

People who say neither think they're smart. Don't say neither.

[Josh]

The nest.

[Jess]

Are you.

[Cheeky]

You're trying to up me right now.

[Jess]

Are you a neither?

[Cheeky]

I'm a neither.

[Jess]

I'm neither.

[Cheeky]

I'm a neither.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Are you a neither?

[Josh]

Neither.

[Cheeky]

You're a neither.

[Jess]

I knew it.

[Josh]

You neither would I.

[Jess]

You give super neither.

[Cheeky]

I see you. You're neither.

[Josh]

Hardcore neither.

[Cheeky]

Hell yeah. He owns it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Love that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

No, but knife. Yeah, you're right.

[Cheeky]

Knife. It's just like.

[Josh]

Are these other ones, Jess? Aunts and ants okay? Yeah.

[Jess]

I can never say that word. Either.

[Cheeky]

Apricot, Data or data.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Data.

[Luana]

Caramel or caramel.

[Josh]

I feel like these are all right. You know what I mean?

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, it's however you want to say it. Like, if you get. If you get what the person is trying to say, why does it matter how they said it?

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

The point of communicating is about. Well, communicating is about, like, understanding what people are trying to say. So if I get it, why would I correct you? Yeah. You know?

[Cheeky]

Yeah. How do you say library? You say library or library?

[Jess]

Library.

[Cheeky]

Library.

[Josh]

Library.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's a difficult one because I do say library.

[Cheeky]

For a long time I was a library girl.

[Josh]

Yeah, I was.

[Cheeky]

Now I'm a library.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And also supposedly. But it's supposedly supposedly. I was a supposedly girl for a while.

[Jess]

Me too, but.

[Cheeky]

And then I learned and I won't unlearn it.

[Jess]

I think that's a race us.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. You know, little.

[Jess]

You know, supposedly. Supposedly.

[Cheeky]

Supposedly. Basically.

[Jess]

Literally. Basically. Literally. Yeah. I can't believe we. I talk like that before. I still do, actually.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, me too. It's okay.

[Jess]

Yeah. But now I try to be a little bit more sophisticated, you know?

[Cheeky]

You're going to turn into a neither.

[Jess]

T. Neither. I'm going to name my first son neither.

[Josh]

Neither. The third.

[Jess]

Neither robles like the third.

[Josh]

How. Just. Just thought it sound.

[Jess]

What's your name? Neither.

[Cheeky]

Oh, man, you guys are so funny.

[Jess]

Can we do the rapping?

[Josh]

Yes. Let's do the rapp questions for.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Oh.

[Josh]

Oh my God.

[Cheeky]

These rapid questions always get me fast.

[Josh]

5. You're on a road trip and you stop at a gas station. What's next again? What's next again?

[Jess]

Neither.

[Luana]

Nice.

[Cheeky]

Some neithers. Okay, I'm gonna get some of the white cheddar popcorn that I like. The white. White cheddar popcorn.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Huh.

[Josh]

So the one in the has the red stripes.

[Cheeky]

No, it's like a black bag. What is it smart Pop Smart. Is it smart?

[Jess]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Cheeky]

It has. It has like the white cheddar flavor.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

So I would probably for sure get that. I love beef jerky.

[Jess]

Big beef jerky, guys. Right here.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Oh, I love beef jerky.

[Josh]

But do you like it when it's like soft? I don't like soft jerky. I like. I wanna.

[Cheeky]

I don't want it too soft. I don't like the too soft because it kind of grosses me out. I want to be able to struggle a little bit.

[Josh]

I want to dry.

[Cheeky]

Dry.

[Josh]

I want to dry.

[Cheeky]

You like a dry dry.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, a little bit dry.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Ish. More dry than not.

[Jess]

That's like real jerky. Like dry. Yeah, like carneseca.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, I love carneseca.

[Jess]

Me too.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. And I'll probably get a Snapple. Oh, yeah.

[Jess]

What?

[Cheeky]

I like the. The peach. The peach flavor. The peach. Yeah.

[Jess]

Dude, I haven't even heard about that drink in years.

[Cheeky]

Oh my God. Yeah.

[Jess]

Where the gas station you going to? That toy abandoned Snapples, bro. Where the are the snapples at?

[Cheeky]

Hey, they're bomb, dude.

[Josh]

That's funny.

[Jess]

Snapples are fire. I remember when my mom. Remember when you pop. Yeah, my mom would buy me, like, dude, when I buy me a Snapple in my head, I'm like, this week, because you got a Snapple, we're balling once a month.

[Josh]

They do have a lot of sugar. This is, like, sidebar. But the last time I had a Snapple for Laura's flavor, it was inspired by the Snapple Strawberry Kiwi.

[Cheeky]

Oh, really nice. That's a great flavor. Yes, this. That's a good one.

[Jess]

That's a good flavor. Okay, well, if you were a bag of chips, then what chips would you be? Neither.

[Cheeky]

I used neither. I used to be Hot Cheetos, but not anymore. Now I'm. I would probably say I'm Doritos. The Ranch Doritos.

[Josh]

I love cool.

[Cheeky]

I love Cool Ranch.

[Josh]

What is that? What is Cool Ranch? Is it just ranch?

[Cheeky]

Like, I honestly, I don't know.

[Josh]

You know what I mean?

[Cheeky]

And I probably don't want to know because, you know, but they're so bomb.

[Josh]

There's blue flakes in Cool Ranch. What the is that?

[Cheeky]

It's like blue, not blue cheese, right? No, I don't know. I don't know.

[Josh]

I have no idea.

[Cheeky]

I don't know what it is, but it's.

[Josh]

No, I'm a fan, too.

[Cheeky]

My alley.

[Jess]

I love Cool Ranch.

[Josh]

Damn. Have you seen that? They're doing the, the chips, like, naked now, like, without the food.

[Cheeky]

I tried them.

[Josh]

They're not good.

[Cheeky]

I tried them, and it just didn't. It didn't do it for me.

[Jess]

Without the what?

[Josh]

So, like, for hot Cheetos, like, there's no red 40s, so they call them naked. Naked. And this is just like.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, bare. So it's like the, the cleaner version.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's just like, the true form of the chip for the same price.

[Cheeky]

Good. But it.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Jess]

I don't know.

[Cheeky]

They're probably a little more expensive, I think.

[Jess]

Really? I would think it's like buying a car without the pain.

[Josh]

Like this, bro. You haven't seen this.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, look.

[Josh]

Naked.

[Cheeky]

Naked. There's. There's like, like, look at the hot Cheetos, bro.

[Josh]

These are everywhere now.

[Jess]

They're good, though.

[Josh]

I haven't tried.

[Cheeky]

I haven't tried the hot Cheeto ones. I tried the Dorito ones.

[Luana]

Our Hot Cheetos connoisseur, Blessive, swears they taste different.

[Josh]

They taste.

[Cheeky]

They do taste different.

[Josh]

Honestly, if there's anybody's, like, opinion I trust is his on this.

[Cheeky]

So they do. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

He loves Hot Cheetos.

[Josh]

Do you like baked hot Cheetos?

[Cheeky]

I, I, I Do I like the baked ones? They're good. Yeah. And the ones from Trader Joe's is bombed.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. And the Takis ones that they have, like their version ones are pretty good.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Can I. Can I tell you guys a go to chip real quick? Salsa Verde Tostitos, dude. The ones that the, that we use for the Queritos and the Tosty Locos. I use that for my green Tosty Tostitos. Salsa Verde Fire.

[Cheeky]

So good. Yes. Actually, those are bomb. Yeah.

[Josh]

What is one of Cheeky's all time favorite movies?

[Cheeky]

Mrs. Doubtfire.

[Josh]

Great movie.

[Cheeky]

Love Mrs. Doubt. Hello. I just watched it the other day. I was like, dude, I love this movie.

[Josh]

I love Robin Williams.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Amazing, bro.

[Josh]

The fact that it trips me out that he took his life, it just so. It doesn't make sense.

[Cheeky]

It doesn't make sense to me either. I don't know why I'm like. That's one that I'm like. But they do say a lot of comedians.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

They're. They're very depressed. I mean, I don't know if this is something that they've said, but I mean, I don't know. I always think about him and I'm like, oh.

[Josh]

The way he was able to like bring out his emotions in characters and like really bring that to the screen is very special. And I think. I don't know. To be able to get there.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So maybe he was in a dark place, bro. Like where he. I don't know. I don't know if this makes sense, but like the layers of being able to get that deep as a human

[Jess]

and it probably with you. Right.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying. Like, maybe that. Yeah.

[Jess]

I don't know, bro.

[Josh]

It's just crazy. It doesn't.

[Jess]

It has to be some, like, in order to be like that great and that talented, your brain has to be going through some chemicals, if that makes any sense.

[Josh]

Doesn't he? Doesn't he.

[Cheeky]

Like he's using a. He was using a different side of his brain. Like.

[Jess]

Yeah. Like there has to be some different popping up in these, in these types of. In insanely intelligent humans. Because you can tell.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

But especially like with people who, I don't know, maybe they practice something as well. Like Anthony Bourdain took his life. You know, like, that was crazy too. A lot of very, very talented people.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Damn.

[Josh]

Yeah. That's insane.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, he.

[Josh]

I felt like his. He just felt like such a pure human.

[Cheeky]

For sure. Yeah.

[Josh]

What are you waving at?

[Cheeky]

I was waving at Luana. She's behind the cameras. Guys are.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, Just checking in.

[Cheeky]

Just check him.

[Josh]

That was really adorable.

[Jess]

You were so confused.

[Cheeky]

He's like, what's going on? No, but I know he. Imagine I'm like, he's right there. But no, he's very light. You feel like a very light, just human being, very humble is what I get from him. And I hope, because I've met people that I admire, and then I'm just like, d. They're not so nice. But I feel like he would be very nice.

[Josh]

I think so too.

[Jess]

Yeah. And he had great style. Look him up in the 90s.

[Cheeky]

Oh, dang. I gotta check that out.

[Josh]

Yeah, he did.

[Jess]

What was the last song you had on repeat? And it can't be one of yours.

[Cheeky]

No, it's called. It's so Beautiful. Yeah, I listen to it like it was. I listen to it every day. I don't know. Can you check for me? Luana. But it's because I just discovered him. Oh, I love just discovering new music. I'll put, like, a song that I love, and then, like, you know, it'll. Oh, yeah, yeah. So it came on like that, and I've been listening to it for, like. Like, two months. Like, every single day.

[Josh]

Are you the type that you just put it, like, back to back to back to back? If you can get stuck on a song like, oh, yeah, you do that. I do that.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah. I do that too.

[Cheeky]

I love it.

[Josh]

Like, I'll just run it back, run it back, run it back.

[Cheeky]

Me too. And I don't get tired of it. So it has to be, like, for two weeks. And then I'm like, okay, I'll give it a little rest and then I'll come back to it.

[Josh]

And sometimes I just want to hear one little part of the song. Like, it's kind of. Music is cool.

[Cheeky]

Music is. It's therapy. It's magic, guys.

[Jess]

Yeah, it really is. It really is.

[Josh]

I'm kind of skipping ahead, but I want to ask. Ask this one. What is in Cheeky's bag? What's in your bag, girl?

[Cheeky]

Okay, so you're always gonna find, like, hand lotion with spf. Because if I have this obsession.

[Josh]

Spf hand lotion.

[Cheeky]

Yes. Okay. Especially women. We got to take care of our hands. Like, now I'm like, my little lotion. It needs. It needs.

[Josh]

You know, I didn't know I was

[Jess]

supposed to do that.

[Cheeky]

No. Yeah, you have to. Especially because you're. When you're driving too.

[Jess]

I'll be different. Especially your left hand.

[Cheeky]

So Just, you know, so that. Wipes. I need wipes. I can't go anywhere without baby wipes.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

My agenda.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Poo pourri uni poo is very important.

[Josh]

Damn.

[Cheeky]

Because you need to use the baby wipes. And if just you need the. You know what I mean?

[Josh]

That's a pro tip right there.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. And my little perfume. I love my little rain of perfume.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Chapstick. And I love nuts. So I. I just like. You guys don't clip that, guys. But I'll just. No, but, like, I know the almonds. Almonds. I love almonds. Cashews. And then like mixed nuts. Chocolate covered pistachios. Oh, my God. So that.

[Jess]

Yeah,

[Josh]

I love trail mix.

[Cheeky]

I love TR Mix. It's just like a nice little, you

[Jess]

know, like the TR mix with like the M and M's and stuff.

[Cheeky]

Yes. Because then it's better, way better than be like, oh, I want something sweet. And then you have an ice cream. It's better to just have your nuts that are a little healthier.

[Jess]

You got that? Make sure you have your nuts, bro.

[Josh]

That are a little healthier.

[Cheeky]

I was waiting for that, dude.

[Jess]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Cheeky]

Who doesn't love nuts?

[Jess]

I love nuts.

[Cheeky]

We love nuts. Nuts.

[Jess]

Especially pistachio nuts.

[Josh]

Put some nuts in some, like, cookies. Like a walnut. Like a walnut chocolate chip cookie. Are you kidding me?

[Cheeky]

Or on top of the freaking. The ice cream.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. The peanuts.

[Jess]

A pizookie.

[Cheeky]

Suzuki's Bomb. You've had pizookies?

[Jess]

Of course.

[Cheeky]

Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cheeky]

They're bomb. Nice and warm.

[Jess]

BJ's is kind of goaded.

[Josh]

I think they. They're the kings.

[Jess]

You think it's better than Yard House

[Josh]

House for the Pazouks?

[Cheeky]

I think so.

[Josh]

For the Bazooks?

[Cheeky]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jess]

Is. Is that your favorite? Yeah. Like, what's your favorite? Like in that realm of chains. No, no, chains. Like the yard houses, the TGIF fries, the chilies, the. The BJ's.

[Cheeky]

Oh, shoot. Okay. Okay. Does. Does Wood Ranch.

[Josh]

Yeah, I would put that in that.

[Cheeky]

Love Wood Ranch.

[Jess]

There's a little Wood Ranch?

[Cheeky]

Yeah. You've never had Wood Ranch barbecue.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

I feel like it is slightly different,

[Josh]

but in the kind of.

[Cheeky]

Is it a little? Yeah. Okay. So little.

[Josh]

Because that's a little more steakhousey. Maybe that would fall like outback.

[Cheeky]

You're right. Okay, so then I'd probably say BJ's.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Love BJ.

[Josh]

That's a good answer.

[Cheeky]

Because I would just do like, like my little individual pizza.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

With the salad.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

And then I would get the bazooki.

[Josh]

Have you ever had the avocado egg rolls?

[Cheeky]

I'm so hungry.

[Josh]

The avocado egg rolls.

[Cheeky]

Oh, bomb.

[Jess]

Yeah. That's a classic.

[Cheeky]

That's when you want to be better. You're like, I'm gonna have these little avocado egg girls.

[Jess]

Yeah, they're like a thousand calories dollars, dude.

[Cheeky]

They are. But they're bomb, though, once in a while. That's why we work out. Do that once a week.

[Jess]

Oh. You know, speaking about food, what's your favorite fast food and what's the order?

[Cheeky]

My favorite fast food? I'd have to say in and out.

[Josh]

Okay, good answer.

[Jess]

Is it. Is it fast food, though? Yes, it is.

[Cheeky]

It's fast food because it has a drive. A drive thru. Oh, no.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, Right?

[Jess]

It's so good.

[Cheeky]

I love. I love my In n out. So my order is a number two with extra toasted buns, and I have no lettuce, no tomato, and I have grilled onions with raw onions, extra pickles, and then the chiles on the side.

[Jess]

Oh, no, no lettuce, no tomato. Because you don't like lettuce and tomato.

[Cheeky]

Then it gets too big. Yeah, yeah. So I just. I'm like, sometimes I'll put it to the side and I'll bite into it, but, like, I like it to be a little bit smaller because then I squish it and then it's like a perfect bite.

[Jess]

Ah.

[Cheeky]

It's all.

[Jess]

There's a. There's a capacity to how big you're gonna. I'm like, what's wrong with that? I mean, we all do.

[Cheeky]

I just want to be like, you know, you can enjoy it and be cute about it, you know?

[Jess]

Dang.

[Cheeky]

Sometimes. Sometimes you want to be sloppy, sometimes you don't.

[Josh]

Animal style fries.

[Cheeky]

I love animal style fries. But lately cheese has been messing my stomach.

[Josh]

Especially In n Out cheese.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Because it's real.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

So I'm like, yeah, I just do regular.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, Regular.

[Josh]

Well, the number two is a cheeseburger. No.

[Cheeky]

Yes.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. So, but then all the cheese that they put on the.

[Josh]

So it's like too much.

[Cheeky]

Too much cheese. Yeah.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Josh]

It'll get you.

[Jess]

It'll get you for sure.

[Josh]

You don't need that.

[Cheeky]

Poopery.

[Jess]

Yeah. I feel like the older I get, the more, like, my stomach gets messed up now.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. That's how I'm like, okay, now I know. And the heart burning.

[Josh]

I was like, heartburn is such a real thing as you get Older. I get it. Yeah. It trips me out and I'm like, what?

[Cheeky]

I never know about this.

[Jess]

Yeah. That I don't really get, but I get a lot of, like. I feel like recently I've. I just can't go to the restroom as much. So, like, I look for, like, digestive enzymes.

[Cheeky]

You need more fiber.

[Jess]

Yeah, I try, but still sometimes, like, I just don't go like how I used to.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

It's a real thing.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

We just have to, like, replenish, you know, prunes and. And all that stuff.

[Jess]

Are you a big date girl?

[Cheeky]

Dates, Date. I love dates.

[Jess]

Have you had dates?

[Cheeky]

Oh, I thought you meant, like, like a date with my husband. I love dates. Oh, yeah.

[Jess]

That was actually one of the questions. Favorite date spot.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Nice. Okay. Well, you know. But I do love dates, by the way. Sorry.

[Jess]

I like to go on a date and eat dates.

[Josh]

That's my favorite date. Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. I just started getting into them, though. I didn't like them before.

[Jess]

Got it.

[Cheeky]

The dates.

[Josh]

Yeah, they have a lot of sugar, but they're good.

[Cheeky]

Yeah, they have a lot of sugar. Jennica made me, like, these little snacks

[Josh]

with, like, peanut butter.

[Cheeky]

Peanut butter. And then I was like, oh, these aren't too bad.

[Jess]

And they're good fiber. They make you go, oh, they do. Yeah. A lot.

[Cheeky]

I didn't know that.

[Jess]

So combine that with some prune juice. Yeah. You'll wake up all lean the next day, shredded. Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Looking like this.

[Jess]

Yeah. No, but speaking about dates, the best dates to go to. And I'll tell you guys this right now, the best date is if you and your husband or you and your girlfriend. Boyfriend. You guys go to sushi and sit at the bar.

[Cheeky]

That's nice.

[Jess]

And that's it. And just watch the sushi dudes. And I love.

[Josh]

Because it's kind of entertaining. Like, it's like.

[Jess]

It's great. And especially, like, when they do the fire. And there's fire in the. Because, you know, the sushi and then there's maybe like a kitchen in the back.

[Josh]

In the back.

[Jess]

That's the best date night. And then it's kind of intimate and you're just, like, talking to each other.

[Cheeky]

You're tucked away. I love sushi.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

I can have sushi every day.

[Jess]

Me, too. What do you think is a favorite date spot? Like, you think that that's. That's good.

[Josh]

I think that's a great answer.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I'd go on a date with you there anytime.

[Cheeky]

What sushi place, though? No, I'M just kidding. Oh, I'm just. Want to talk about food. Of course.

[Jess]

Anyway, yeah, no, there's so many.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Cheeky's. First of all, I want to thank you for being here. And second, were you just messing around that we can go April 7th?

[Cheeky]

No, I'm being serious.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Jess]

Bet.

[Cheeky]

I would really love if you guys came and gave me your honest opinion because it'll be before everyone hears it. So it'll be at my house, super small, into, I think, like, 10 people max.

[Josh]

But, like, honest opinion, like. But why?

[Cheeky]

Because.

[Jess]

You know what I mean?

[Cheeky]

I love that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

You know what? I love that. You know, I think just because I care about your opinion where I'm like, you know, I really, like, I know that you guys are into music and you guys, you know, like, I just want to hear what do you. What does it make you feel? More than anything, I want you. I want to know, like, does it make you feel anything? Because I.

[Josh]

How it moved me.

[Cheeky]

Exactly. That's what I want.

[Jess]

I mean, I gave you a genuine reaction when we were at the beach, and I was like, wow, this is really, really.

[Josh]

He actually talked to me about this, by the way.

[Cheeky]

Oh, really?

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah, like, on some genuine. Because, like, I'm genuine.

[Cheeky]

No, yeah, you're genuine. Genuine, genuine.

[Jess]

And I. I do remember talking. I was like, yeah, bro. Like, can you believe, like, we saw Cheeky's and, like, play some music for her friends and family and, like, she played the song. I was like, it was really good.

[Cheeky]

Thanks, man.

[Jess]

It was really.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Very different.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Yeah.

[Jess]

I gotta show you that song. Sick.

[Josh]

What's gonna.

[Jess]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that one's already. But, yeah. Congratulations with everything. And the official.

[Cheeky]

The album drops April 9th.

[Josh]

April 9th. Everywhere.

[Cheeky]

April 16th.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Cheeky]

We're still trying to figure it out, but yes, everywhere. Then it'll be available.

[Josh]

Tour is still ending.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm changing. I woke up today and wanted to make a bunch of changes. It's April 1st and I'm like, you know what? I need to make a lot of changes.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jess]

Oh, wow.

[Cheeky]

So I'm shaking up a little bit.

[Josh]

I like it.

[Cheeky]

It's good, though, because then everything set up. Cuddles. Yeah.

[Jess]

Oh, I love that. Yeah. Well, thank you so much.

[Josh]

Yes. Whenever you want to come back.

[Cheeky]

It can't be in another three years. You guys. You have to do this at least.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Cheeky]

Like once a year.

[Josh]

I like once a year.

[Cheeky]

Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then we'll catch up.

[Jess]

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna put, like, a sticker on you, like, when they do before the oil change and come back this day.

[Cheeky]

Okay. Tight.

[Jess]

Yeah. You can take it off, though. Like, later. I gotta make sure I could see it. Yeah, put it in your car. But, yeah. So thank you so much. I appreciate that.

[Cheeky]

I loved it.

[Jess]

Josh, anything else to say?

[Josh]

No. Thank you so much for being. It was incredible.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Part two is amazing, guys. Don't forget to subscribe. You've not subscribed already. Follow Cheekies. Make sure to keep an eye out for her album. You can find it everywhere. Apple Music. I was gonna say Shopify. Spotify. Everywhere you listen to music. And we love you guys. Hope you guys have an incredible week. Yeah. And keep kicking ass.

[Cheeky]

Peace and love, y'. All. Neither.

[Jess]

Neither. Look out for my new son. Neither. Yeah, you got that or no? I got it.

[Josh]

It was a joke.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Josh]

See you guys. By.