The Elephant in the Room + Listener Phone Call 👀

Summary

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Episode Title: The Elephant in the Room + Listener Phone Call 👀
Hosts: Sebastian Robles (“Sebas”) & Josh Leyva
Date: August 10, 2026
Episode Number: 259

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Episode Overview

In this candid, high-energy episode, Sebas and Josh ditch their usual banter for a more listener-driven format—reviving a fan-favorite segment: direct phone calls with their community. Balancing humor with heartfelt perspectives, they weave in personal updates (from designer pedicures to fresh haircuts) before diving into a memorable, in-depth phone call with listener Isabelle, centering on partnership, gender roles, and family planning.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Catching Up: Big Vibes, Personal Grooming, and Life

• [03:34] Homie Check-in:
  • Josh and Sebas check in on each other's lives and energy. Josh jokes about his increased creatine and carb-loading.
    • “Just left the gym too with it, man.” (Josh, 01:40)
    • “There’s something different about you today, bro.” (Sebas, 12:03)
• [04:40-17:00] Pedicure Talk:
  • Both hosts discuss shifting attitudes around male grooming, sharing stories about recent pedicures and self-care.
    • “It’s remarkable what they can do.” (Josh, 13:00)
    • “I literally went like—made the Lord bless you!” (Sebas, 15:14)
    • They highlight experiences at different salons, the benefits of taking care of your feet, and cultural notes on salon work ethic.
• [42:00-end] The Elephant in the Room—Sebas’ Haircut:
  • Sebas reveals he cut his long, signature hair after 3 years.
    • “I think it’s time. It’s gonna be a hard goodbye, but maybe just for now.” (Sebas, 43:52)
    • “My hair’s still majestic. Let’s not get that twisted.” (Sebas, 44:22)
    • They compare the haircut to a vasectomy, and Sebas offers a “memoir” to his hair.

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2. Deep Dive: Movies that Shape Men

• [06:42-12:00] Significance of ‘The Odyssey’ and Masculine Films:
  • Discussion of how movies like “The Odyssey,” “Interstellar,” and “300” influence male identity and inspiration.
    • “Something that shapes men from little boys becoming men… movies that are about gladiators.” (Josh, 08:33)
  • Sebas reflects on the impact practical effects have on experiencing film; Josh discusses how certain movies linger and inspire introspection.

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3. Listener Segment: The Phone Call with Isabelle

[18:55–35:32]

• Background:

  • Isabelle, 30, calls in with a real-life relationship dilemma: after three C-sections and three kids, she and her husband Bobby (33) are debating whether he should get a vasectomy.
    • “So my…thing is, I’ve had three C-sections…and I feel like he should put something…like I did three times.” (Isabelle, 20:42)

• Discussion Points:

  • Generational/cultural expectations: All men on Bobby’s side have had vasectomies when their partners were done having kids.
  • Physical/emotional labor: Isabelle articulates the toll of pregnancy and birth (particularly C-sections), and why she feels it’s Bobby’s turn to step up.
  • Health considerations: Isabelle cannot take birth control due to health issues.
    • “I’ve tried every birth control…they’ve all not been good for me. I also have a heart condition.” (Isabelle, 25:59)
  • Gender dynamics & selflessness: The hosts walk through the nuances of his hesitation (fear, age, permanence) vs. her reasoning (health, fairness, safety).
    • “Do you gotta be selfless? It’s a selfless act.” (Josh, 30:08)
    • “If my wife asked me…and this is something she really wanted me to do, I would look in the mirror and say…do I love my wife? …I would do it.” (Sebas, 29:36)
  • Advice: The hosts recommend sitting with the decision, but ultimately lean toward supporting Isabelle.
    • “From the first moment when we spoke to you, I kind of wasn’t on your side, but now I kind of am.” (Sebas, 34:17)

• Memorable Exchange:

  • [29:12] Bobby enters the call:
    “Bobby, you’re gonna have to chop your d*ck off. I’m sorry, brother.” (Sebas, 29:12; all laugh)
  • [31:41] “My dad told me…you still get…stuff still comes out…and the sensation is the same. They say shooting blanks.” (Sebas, 31:41)

Outcome & Reflection

• The hosts encourage open conversation and patience, reflecting that the decision deserves time but, given Isabelle’s circumstances, leans in her favor.
• They commit to sending Isabelle and Bobby a care package and ask for an update in the future.

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4. Humor, Community, and Candidness

• The episode is full of playful ribbing, self-deprecating humor, and direct engagement with their audience.
• Recurring inside jokes about feet, hair, and “snipping”—linking grooming and vasectomy in unexpected, lighthearted ways.
  • “I straight up vasectomy’d my hair.” (Sebas, 45:09)
• Throughout, Sebas and Josh reinforce the theme of modern masculinity: self-care, emotional insight, and supporting one’s partner.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Masculinity & Vulnerability:
  • “I think men kind of tend to disregard their feet, but I don’t think they should.” (Sebas, 16:00)
  • “Something that shapes men from little boys becoming men…movies about gladiators.” (Josh, 08:33)
• On Partnership:
  • “If my wife had three of my children…I'm snipping, bro.” (Sebas, 37:55)
  • “You gotta be selfless. It’s a selfless act.” (Josh, 30:08)
• On Change:
  • “You know, when a snake or a chameleon sheds…they need something new in order to…live on more freshly—new beginnings.” (Sebas, 42:18)
• Comic Relief:
  • “Bobby, you’re gonna have to chop your d*ck off. I’m sorry, brother.” (Sebas, 29:12)
  • “You straight up vasectomy’d your hair.” (Josh, 45:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:34 – Homie check-in and gym/creatine jokes
• 04:40–17:00 – Pedicure stories and men’s grooming
• 06:42–12:00 – Movie talk: “The Odyssey,” how films influence men
• 18:55–35:32 – Phone call with Isabelle (vasectomy, family planning)
• 42:00–47:42 – Sebas’ “elephant in the room” hair transformation story

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Episode Tone & Energy

Playful yet sincere, blending Mexican-American bro culture with real emotion and progressive takes on masculinity. The hosts keep it light but never shallow—honoring listener vulnerability and providing honest, sometimes funny, always real talk.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• La Platica isn’t just about pop culture — these are emotionally intelligent men talking about the real work of showing up for yourself and your relationships.
• Expect both laughs and wisdom: grooming normalization for men, cultural touchstones, and open discussions on love, gender roles, fear, and partnership.
• The phone-in segment is a standout, making listeners feel truly seen and valued by the hosts.

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If you’re looking for an engaging mix of Latinx camaraderie, cultural commentary, and real relationship talk blended with humor and warmth, this episode is a standout.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Yeah, I'll tell them.

[A]

Do the thing with the hookup, guys.

[B]

At the end, you're gonna put a discount code. There's a little area where it says discount code. La Platica. 10 immediately gives you 10% off your next ticketed purchase.

[A]

10% off your next ticketed purchase. Save some money. Maybe go get a haircut. Maybe don't. We'll see you guys in 12.4 seconds.

[B]

That was good.

[A]

I'm gonna use it.

[C]

Let me be honest.

[B]

Every guest is a privilege. Do we wanna go there, get jolly? Cause I'm on a podcast with Jo. Hell yeah. You have too.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, let me just tell

[C]

you, this is la Platica episode 259 phone calls.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Maybe. I don't know. Allegedly.

[B]

Boom. Guys, we're doing phone calls today, but before we even getting into that ring ring. Subscribe notifications on and tell a friend. Friend, tell your sister, tell your brother, tell your cousins, tell your friends. Look, it's D. Josh Label right here in the corner.

[A]

You already know the vibe.

[B]

The one and only. He wearing a tank top today, my boy, man. He wearing a tank top, bro. You know you feeling yourself when it's just tank top season now. It is 101 degrees outside.

[A]

Just left the gym too with it, man.

[B]

You look good, bro. Let me tell you something. You know who looks better than you, though? Camera four. Camera four, what's up?

[A]

Always looking good. Shout out, camera four.

[B]

Yo, like Jessica said. Oh, by the way, my name is Sebastian, and camera four looks good. We look good. Everyone looks good. Now we are gonna do some phone calls today. We haven't done that in such a long time.

[A]

We did it one time, bro.

[B]

One time. And I don't remember because I think

[A]

I was years ago.

[B]

I think I was up and I

[A]

had a lot of fun when we did them. We didn't have A team. We literally set it up by ourselves and it was a little chaotic. Yeah, we were trying to figure out how to do it, but now that we have an amazing team, I'm excited if you guys want to figure out how do I get on these phone calls, how do I talk to the boys, how did. We have a form, it's called platicanos that Jess set up for us. And there you will fill out all your information along with any kind of questions, concerns, perspective of a man. Am I the asshole? You know, what is it? Questions you may have for us, questions

[B]

that we are willing to answer and help you out.

[A]

And look, we're going to talk from the heart, okay? We might offend you, we might give you the right answer. We might give you the wrong answer. But you will get an answer.

[B]

Yes, you will. So, yeah, like I said. And it's down on the description down below, right, Jess? Correct down in the description down below. And she like, hey, I want to get, you know, called by the boys. Okay, well just do that description.

[A]

Ganta.

[B]

Right? Ganta. That was a lot. Ugliest word I've ever heard in my life. But it's a word and we all have one. So. Yeah, Jess looks through these forms and submissions and she chooses the, the good juicy ones, the ones that we can talk about on the pod. And, and, and we, and you can get a good reaction from the boys.

[A]

We actually had a ton of you guys actually submit your guys own questions and stuff. So thank you to everybody who has submitted. But like I said, even if you submitted already, you have another one, feel free to like redo it.

[B]

But bro, do it again.

[A]

Before we get into these questions, I kind of just want to see how you're doing.

[C]

I'm.

[A]

I want to do a, a homie check in. Like, everything's good. What's new, what's happening, you know, like, are you feeling like, you know, where you at?

[B]

Honestly? I'm good, man. Yeah, I am taking a little bit more creatine. I'm doubling my dose.

[A]

Maybe that's what it is.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, maybe that's what it is

[A]

because I'm sensing something that's a little like, different. Like, you know, we're good. It's. Is it a we thing?

[B]

We've been good, bro.

[A]

Okay, so it's not. Are we good? I'm good, I'm good.

[B]

You're good?

[A]

I'm good.

[B]

You look good.

[A]

It's not that.

[B]

It's not that. No, nothing. I mean, the only thing I can think about Is I up my creatine? I am carb loading at the moment. Nothing, bro. Maybe I'm a little bit darker. Only because it's hot as outside.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's really it, I think.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Other than that.

[A]

Let me see your shoes. Are those new shoes?

[B]

They're like a month and a half old, you know?

[A]

Okay. Newish.

[B]

Other than that, nothing, bro.

[A]

Did you get new shoes? Did you just have a birthday? No.

[B]

Oh, actually I did. My birthday was May 29th.

[D]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

But I didn't get these shoes for my birthday. You know what I got for my birthday?

[A]

What?

[B]

Birthday sex, bro.

[A]

That's amazing. That's great. Nothing wrong with that.

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

Yesterday I had the coolest dream where I came across a ton of cash. And I just had wads of cash, bro. And I just kept pulling them out of my pocket, you know, I almost felt like, are those dreams that you can control? There's a word for lucid dreaming.

[B]

Lucid, I think.

[A]

I think I was low key lucid dreaming because I just always like, wait, if I just keep reaching in, I'm just going to pull out so much cash. And then I was like, what do I do with this?

[B]

Did you Google what that meant?

[A]

Can we just. Wads of cash?

[B]

Jess, there's always an answer for dreams.

[A]

And mind you, they weren't like perfectly stacked with the rubber band like that says like singles. Singles to hundred. It was everything, bro. It was like I broke a piggy bank and it was just wads of money.

[C]

Wow. Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, dan's a sick ass dream.

[B]

Dreaming of a bundle of money generally symbolizes your walking life, energy, power and self worth, often linked to resourcefulness or upcoming opportunities. Large sums can specifically represent hidden potential. A pending financial breakthrough, or if the amount feels overwhelming, an underlining anxiety about responsibility or excess.

[A]

You know, it wasn't so much anxiety, but I did say I was like, what do I do with this?

[B]

I killed that paragraph, by the way.

[A]

I didn't know what to do with that. Just complimenting yourself or know how to read. I think that's.

[B]

I think that. I think that's what's different about me today.

[A]

You know how to read.

[B]

There's confidence in me.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

It's the confidence, brother.

[A]

What. What are your thoughts on the meaning of dreams, by the way? And I don't want to talk too much into this because I want everybody to see it, but Odyssey, you.

[B]

Odyssey haven't seen it.

[A]

Odyssey. The Odyssey.

[B]

You ought to see these nuts.

[A]

Have you seen It Anybody in the room have seen it besides myself? You guys are so in for a treat. And I'm going to say this. Who hasn't seen it? I know like watching an iMac 70 millimeter is the way to watch it.

[B]

That's why I haven't seen it.

[A]

Watch the movie. I. Dude, I'm going to watch, I'm going to watch it again in 70mm. Is it 70mm?

[B]

Yeah. Cuz there's IMAX. I. There's a lot of IMAX in many theaters. I think mainly all of them now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But there's 70mm IMAX where it's a lot more vertical, a lot more wider,

[A]

and there's only 42 of them in the entire planet.

[B]

I, I'm going to have to agree with you. I think if we had Christopher Nolan here on the sofa. Yeah. And asked him, yo, is it necessary to watch 70 millimeter? I think him as who he is as a human and a director. I like to say director, not director. I feel like I know more what I'm talking about.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

So if Christopher Nolan, the director, if you ask him, do I gotta watch it in 70 millimeter.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think him as a director. Yeah. He would say watch the film. It doesn't matter.

[A]

And it's not that it doesn't matter because I, I do feel like he did it on purpose.

[B]

Right, of course.

[A]

So there is like an art to it, but it's like a plus the storyline.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It doesn't take away the magic of that film. The sound, sounds, the feel, practical effects. Like a majority of that film was practical effects. I've been getting bombarded with tick tocks and reels about the film. It's so cool because now that I've seen it, I have such a different.

[B]

Really, bro.

[A]

I'm gonna watch that movie in my life at least like 10 times.

[B]

So do you think that that movie is your favorite movie of all time now? It seems like it not of all times.

[A]

But I love the movie, bro.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I left the movie theater feeling like, wow, what a film.

[D]

And.

[A]

And then I've just been sitting in it and thinking about it and like just like, damn, there was. So I need to rewatch it. There's so much goodness in that film, bro.

[B]

Yeah, obviously 90% women who are watching shout out to you guys. Beautiful women at home in your car watching it.

[A]

Do you care to watch the Odyssey?

[B]

No, no, no. There's a thing that us men sh. Something that shapes men from little boys becoming men. Something that always gets stuck to us are movies. Movies that are about gladiators. Movie, like the movie war. There's certain movies that kind of shape men, you know what I mean? And they always stuck to us.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Would you say that the Odyssey is a type of movie that either inspires you or changes your personality or your authenticity of who you are? Does it change it, for example, me, Interstellar, Maybe they didn't change me as being a masculine man or anything like that, but mentally and maybe spiritually, it did change me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did the Odyssey change you? Did you leave feeling that movie theater inspired more of a man? Did you feel kind of like, I don't know, uplifted? Hmm.

[A]

20 minutes to ask me the same question.

[B]

I'm really trying to be a podcaster right now.

[A]

Yeah, bro. Yes, yes, I definitely do. Like I said, I left the theater being like, wow, what a film. But as I left it, it's lingered with me and it just like, really made me think about things differently. And bro, it's such an incredible film. Like in. I have such a deep respect and appreciation for Christopher Nolan and obviously he's like one of the greatest directors, but like, dude, that man is brilliant. Brilliant to the point that I don't know if you guys saw that clip where a lot of the effects are practical effects.

[B]

Meaning, like real.

[A]

They're real. There's like a scene where I don't want to give away too much, but basically Tom Holland is watching the film and he's in the film and he is like, mind blowing of like, how really this feature. Apparently Christopher Nolan's sitting behind him. So after the film, he like leans back and was like, bro, how did you guys do that? And he's like, it was real. It was all practical effects.

[B]

Wow. Yeah, man.

[A]

It's like shape shifting kind of things, bro, that they were doing, like, it was brilliant, bro. It's.

[B]

It's crazy. Christopher Nolan is a legend. I would say probably top two, if

[A]

not, you know about that film. I wasn't dying to see it. I wasn't. Like, I could not wait to go see the Odyssey. But my girl Mo, dude, she was so amped, cuz apparently she read the book in high school. Apparently most people did. I did not. Oh my God, bro.

[B]

What high school?

[A]

You guys go to book that everybody reads in high school, apparently. And now I'm pissed because I was like, how did I not read the book that would have shaped me if I would have read it in high school?

[B]

I kind of remember the story of the Odyssey and how there's A Cyclops guy.

[A]

That's one tiny part of.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. But that's all I remember. I never read the book, nor any of the books that they told me to read.

[A]

Yeah, bro, this.

[B]

Which I regret.

[A]

It's a. If I'm not mistaken, it's a 3,000 year old story.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It's a story. It's one of the oldest stories ever.

[B]

Yeah. So if there's. If there's a word that you would put to the movie, you know, like if you tell me one of my favorite movies is interstellar.

[D]

Right.

[B]

If you tell me one word that describes a movie, I would just say magical. Right. What would you say for the Odyssey?

[A]

Damn. Like, to put it in one word.

[B]

One word. Like, describe the movie in one word.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Like is. Is that word maybe badass? Because if you say. Remember the movie 300? Another movie that shaped men?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That movie was one of its kind. When 300 came out. Do you remember that? Like, Trojan, mystical, like, fictional movie when that.

[A]

Dude, there's something different about you today, bro. I can't put a finger on it, but there's something different about you.

[B]

I just told you.

[A]

Are you with me?

[B]

They.

[A]

You with me?

[B]

They say creatine is good for the brain, too.

[A]

Dude. There is just something different, and I'm going to figure it out and I'm going to get to the bottom of this.

[B]

You know what it is as well? This morning, I haven't really ate. I've only ate one meal, so. They say that when you're a little fasted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're ketosis. Yeah. Your mind is a little bit more clear, and I kind of feel that way right now.

[A]

Yeah. You're in ketosis.

[B]

Also, every time I speak a word or even a sound of a letter, as you can hear me right now, I'm really trying to amplify every single sound and make it seem like I know English very well, but you don't

[A]

question thoughts on pedicure.

[B]

Feet.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Money.

[A]

I got one today.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I want to show you my feet.

[B]

I think, like. Like, that's fine, but, like, I'll pass.

[A]

But they look so good.

[B]

I know. It's remarkable what they can do.

[A]

It's like, wow.

[B]

Well, let me.

[A]

I get it. Let me. I get it.

[B]

Let me ask you this, Mr. Odyssey.

[A]

You ought to see these tails, bro. That's what you ought to.

[B]

You know, you said something funny when Jess laughs like that. Look, let me ask you this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it seems like there's a lot of New things going on in your life.

[A]

I've done pedicures before.

[B]

When's the last time you did that?

[A]

That's a good question.

[B]

Because it seems like you're a newbie probably.

[A]

No, no, I'm not a newbie at it. I just. So I. I ran the half marathon in Long beach and it up my feet, bro.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

I had black. I remember my toes. Nails fell off and I didn't get a pedicure for a while because I was like, a little embarrassed, so I didn't go. I think the last time I went was maybe a year and a half ago. And I. When I took off myself, long time ago.

[B]

A lot of callus under there.

[A]

Yeah, no, believe it or not, I have soft feet. It's just my nails were a little, like, bent out of shape to put it.

[B]

Yeah, but you cut your own nails.

[A]

Of course. Of course. I do my own kind of maintenance, but not like my homegirl today, bro.

[B]

When homegirls do it, wow. It's an art.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Did they do the. The shiny polish?

[A]

Oh, she did it all. She was. She's like, do you mind? If you want to put a little polish. I was like, baby girl, give it to me. Yeah, polish me up.

[B]

Oh, I love it, bro. It's very relaxing now when they get the cheese grater and they start scrubbing the.

[A]

She didn't do that. They have a she. She used a machine, bro. It was like a little. And I was like, bro, what machine? It's that, but in a machine, it's like a sonic toothbrush that had like a different kind of head in it.

[B]

Like the grater, the cheese grater.

[A]

You know what I'm talking?

[B]

Like the, like the inside of your nail. No, no, no.

[A]

She was doing the bottom of my feet. Feed the side right here.

[B]

He's saying that there's a. Like the cheese grater thing. I forgot the callus remover.

[A]

Let me just show you my feet. Let me just look. Look at this, dude. Are you ready for this? Look at this.

[D]

For free.

[B]

For free. Wow,

[D]

bro.

[B]

There's nothing wrong with your foot.

[A]

There is. These are some beautiful ass feet.

[B]

That is a flawless looking foot. I mean, toes and everything, bro.

[A]

And there's the shine and they look clean and put together. I'm like, wow.

[B]

Isn't it crazy? Like a pedicure does something.

[A]

Thank you for letting me show you that, because I' really proud, bro. Like, I. I literally.

[B]

I'm not a feet guy, but they look great, bro. I can't wait for my I kissed

[A]

her on the forehead. I literally went like, like, made the Lord bless you.

[B]

How much did they charge there? It seems like it's.

[A]

Don't even care, bro. Didn't even. I charged me double. I said it was like 100 bucks.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, it's right by my house, bro. It's the best.

[B]

It's a bass. Yeah, I'm going tomorrow.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, I don't really. It's not. It's like for me, it's not really a thing that like, oh, it's time for a pedicure, guys. No, it's more like if. If I'm going to go on vacation, you know, like I, I can. I'll go and we'll get a pedicure. Because they do look nice.

[A]

They look nice.

[B]

And like, to be honest, like, taking care of yourself means that when you're around other people, you don't want to be around other people. And your feet are all busted looking, you know? But even though if you cut your nails and it's not that your nails are dirty or long, it's just from the outside, they just. Your feet glow. Your feet glow.

[A]

I think. I think men kind of tend to like disregard their feet, but I don't think they should.

[B]

And I'm all about the hands too.

[A]

That should be a priority. I think feet should be a priority. So do you. Have you got. Have you ever got a pedicure?

[B]

I just got it last week. Week.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You feel good?

[B]

Yeah, amazing.

[A]

Yeah, it's the best.

[B]

It's been a minute since I got a pedicure. So I was walking around my house

[A]

barefoot because like girls like do it more frequently cuz they paint them. So there's more of like a maintenance for guys, like you said.

[B]

And they show their feet constantly.

[A]

Constantly. Yeah, but I know we're going to be out and about beach and stuff like that. I just want to like.

[B]

Yeah, by the beach, by the pool. Yeah, I'm going to go tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's worth it.

[B]

They look great, bro. And you know what I love about what Are they Vietnamese or are they.

[A]

So my girl was Armenian.

[D]

Holy.

[A]

And she gave me a Russian pedicure.

[B]

Yeah, I heard about those. But like.

[A]

Because I even saw. I was like, what's happening right now? And the other girl, she's like, she's giving you a Russian pedicure. And I was like, oh, yeah, they get down.

[B]

Karen's girl, I think is Ukrainian and she's phenomenal.

[A]

Phenomenal.

[B]

Yeah, but no but, but, yeah, but the, the ladies that I go with, they're of an Asian descent. I think they're Vietnamese, I think. I'm sorry, I don't know. But you know what? One thing that I love about their culture, because that's mainly all of them, right? Whatever ethnicity I'm talking about, that's mainly most of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think you walk into those salons, you don't need an appointment. You say, hey, I'm trying to. They'll fit you in.

[A]

Yeah, they'll make it happen.

[B]

They're, they're never like, no, we're booked. You know, like if you go to a hair salon or something like that, or a barbershop or even at Zebuz or when you get your eyebrows through, I remember, like, they just like, nope, you need an appointment, they'll squeeze you in. There's some hard working ladies out there. And men. Yeah, the guys there, the guys that do pedicures, they're the ones that are even booked the most.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They get down.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So I'm going tomorrow.

[A]

I love them. Shout out to homegirl. I didn't even. I. She told me her name. I was mesmerized by my own feet, bro.

[B]

Yeah, it's good. You had a great service then.

[A]

It was incredible.

[B]

Great. You had a great time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Guys, if you're wondering, like, what are you talking about? Pedicures. We haven't left on vacation yet.

[A]

I know we filmed like four videos

[B]

already and we just keep talking about this vacation. I mean, technically I'm there already, but like we haven't left here filming. We haven't left.

[A]

And obviously I feel like a lot of you guys follow us on social, so you guys probably been keeping up with us and you see that we've been out already, but this present us has not.

[B]

Yeah. So I'm gonna just stop talking about that whole thing.

[A]

Let's get into these phone calls. Okay. I want to talk to some people. Jess, are we ready? We got, we got. Jess already did some queuing up for us and we have no idea what we're getting into. By the way, I'm looking at the prompt right now. It says perspective. No, this is perspective of a perspective of a man.

[B]

Yeah, okay, it's. It's branching off from perspective of a man, but instead of reading it now, we're gonna get it to talk to somebody.

[A]

We're gonn it.

[C]

Yeah. All the spin off, all the times that you guys have been left with questions or like, did they say this?

[B]

Did they say, how old were they?

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

Here we are. And we're going to talk to Isabelle first. She's 30 years old, and I'm only saying that because she put it in the prompt.

[B]

Okay, thank you for that.

[C]

Yeah, I guess we can kind of cut to the phone call right here.

[A]

Isabelle, hello, can you hear me?

[C]

Hi.

[D]

Yes, I can hear you.

[A]

Hello, love. This is Josh Lever from La Platica.

[D]

Yes. Hi, guys.

[B]

Hi. Hi, Isabel. How's it going? This is Sebastian, also the other guy on the left when you watch us on YouTube. First of all, yeah. Thank you so much for. For tuning in and supporting us. First and foremost. We're excited to talk to you.

[A]

Yes. So, first of all, thank you so much for submitting. In your question, we see you have a perspective of a man, and us, being men are here to give you our perspective.

[B]

He said it.

[A]

Just so you know, I just got a pedicure, and my toes are looking incredible, in case you were wondering.

[B]

Only if you can see them, Isabelle. They're gorgeous.

[D]

That's great. I'm glad to hear.

[A]

Yes. I got my feet already. Let's get it.

[D]

This one. This one's interesting. And I definitely need a perspective of a man because my husband and I go back and forth with this for the last year and a half since we had our third child. So we're. I'm 30, he's 33. And we are on the fence if we're going to have a fourth or not.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So we will decide that by the end of the year.

[B]

I thought we were going to decide that right now.

[D]

But in the meantime, the talks of a vasectomy are on the table.

[B]

Oh, whoa.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Yes. So I just want to preface it with his. All the men on his side have. All have had vasectomies after, you know, their wives have said, okay, we're done having kids. They've all like, okay, we'll go and do this.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

So I let. I told him, like, okay, well, are you gonna follow the tradition and get a vasectomy? And he doesn't want to.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So my. My thing is that I've had three C sections, and it's been such a painful process. And I'm like, I'm giving you these beautiful children. And I feel like he should put something like, you know, put his body through something like I did three times. I don't think of a secondary as that big of a deal. I've had to go, like, major. You know, go through major surgery. And he's like, why do you want me to be in pain? You know, that's not fair. Just because you had the women have to go through the pain. Why should I have to?

[A]

This is so good.

[D]

And he also thinks he's still too done for it. But I'm like, if we're done having kids, then why does the age matter?

[A]

Are you sure that you guys are done having kids? Like, is he, like, 100%? This is it. No more.

[D]

So part of me thinks he. I've always wanted four, but since I've had three C sections, obviously, I don't know what's going to happen, you know, until you go into labor. And one was an emergency C section. And, you know, you don't know until you're in that position. So I wanted four before I, you know, had the three C sections. So now with the fourth one, I'm on the fence. But we're going to decide by the end of the year. So I'm like, okay, when we get to December, if we're going to have another one, okay, great. But if not, yeah, I think he should get a vasectomy.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

First of all, I want to say this. My mom got two C sections, and she's always, like, told me how crazy and strenuous that is on the body. So I commend you for to do three is wild.

[B]

To give.

[A]

To give birth alone is such a crazy thing.

[B]

Superwoman.

[A]

How much you guys have to endure to, like, that whole process is crazy.

[C]

It is.

[A]

And I get where you're coming from. I totally hear where you're coming from.

[B]

Here it comes.

[A]

I did get a note from Jess right now.

[B]

She did.

[A]

And she did bring this up to me. She said, C sections are reversible. Vasectomy. Okay, There's a lot of big words being thrown around right now, guys. My toes are. Oh, man. How adamant are you about this? Like, is it gonna really enough to submit something?

[B]

And, like, we. She needs this advice. Like, she needs. She wants him to do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

My husband actually just walked in, so he's listening.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

If he's, like, adamant, like, listen, I don't want to do this. I understand where you're coming from. I get how much, like, you've sacrificed your body for a beautiful family, but this is just not something I want to go through. Like, how would you. Like, how are. What do you think? Like, what is it? What then now what?

[D]

So I told him, you know, if it's something he. I guess, like, if I wanted to have this conversation, you know, and get the perspective of somebody else, and I Said, if that's what was said, yeah, I'll let it go, you know, I'll let it go and let it be. But I wanted to take the chance and see, would you guys say yes, he should get it, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Okay, so let me put my little two cents in. Once again, we commend you for having three C sections, let alone three babies and enduring that.

[D]

Right?

[B]

Like, that's amazing. And that's remarkable. Right now it seems that you just want your husband in pain.

[D]

That's what she said.

[B]

If that's the case, maybe a couple socks in the face, maybe a kick to the groin a little or what? You know what I mean? Like, like if there's more to it, like, I, I understand now. I do think he has a point. He's 33 years old. I've never met any 33 year old with a vasectomy. You know what I did on my

[D]

33 year old birthday?

[B]

Not get a vasectomy? I did the complete opposite, right? So like, like now I, like, I understand where you're coming from, but like, if it's just simply because I went through a lot now I want you to go through something. I don't know if that's the right move. I don't know if my, if my wife told me that I'll be like, yo, I get it. Right? Like, I get it. But like, yeah, is it necessary? Like, does, does it. Will it alter or change or benefit your relationship? If he does. Now I understand. Like, if he, like if my wife came at me and said, I want you to get a vasectomy, I'm thinking, I'm thinking two things. One, maybe she doesn't. Obviously we don't want. So for my understanding. Sorry. That I'm kind of going all over the place. My understanding is when people get a vasectomy is like they can't, like they're super potent, they can't control how much kids they have. And like, they just want to be more safe than safe, right? Because it's like, damn, we just keep popping out babies. You know what I mean? So it's like, so you need to get a vasectomy, right? So like, I get that. But if I think the sole purpose is just because I want you to like, go through something and I already did this, and then that's when we stop. I don't know, you know, I don't know if I can be on your side. You know what I mean? Especially because the dude, look, I'm 36 years old and he's three years younger than me, so it's like, I don't know. I really don't. But is there more to this?

[D]

Well, I'm just thinking, like, I never want to. Like, I've tried every birth control and they've all have not been good for me. I also have a heart condition, so some of them I can't be on.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then, I mean, we are safe, but, like, what if we get older? I don't want to have an accident. I don't want to just with. I recently got diagnosed with this heart thing too, in my last pregnancy. And so I just like, what if there's that one chance, you know, we're being safe?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Because it's worked for us, you know, so far, you know, minus when we do want to have kids. But like, what if there is that chance when I'm older and I'm just like, you know, because, I mean, you could be safe, but you just never know. And I can't be on birthday controls and, you know, so, so I, I,

[B]

I guess I, I, I like now

[A]

where obviously he knows all this information. Right. Because this is now coming from a more of like a deeper place versus just like you wanting him to suffer, you know, like, this is serious stuff.

[B]

It'll, it'll make your life much easier is what you're saying.

[D]

Yes, it would.

[A]

Is he scared? What's the, what's his reasoning besides him being scared? Scared.

[D]

He's scared.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As I actually met somebody, I had a friend who was actually 33 years old, not even joking. I feel like this sounds made up, but he got a vasectomy and he had the same kind of situation, but he would, he, it was actually his idea to get it. And he came over to my house the day after his, the day of his surgery, and we watched Lord of the Rings and he was totally fine. And I just remember him icing his balls. And the next day he was up and at it like, it wasn't, it wasn't that crazy, bro. It was, it's not that. Yeah, it sounds crazier than it is.

[B]

Yeah. I believe my dad also got one, but the reason why he got one is because they kept having kids.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, 33 is young, and I can understand why he has that, like, fear, you know, because, like, let's just say you guys have this number of four kids. But in five years from now, what if you guys want, do want to have another one? I get that it's reversible, but then that just Becomes a whole.

[B]

Another. Another thing.

[A]

Another thing.

[B]

Like. Like, like. Because, I mean, do you mind if I. Are you. I'm not gonna ask you, but are you around the same age as your husband?

[A]

He's 30. She's 30.

[B]

She's 30.

[D]

I'm 30.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah. I'll be 31 in September.

[B]

But yeah, because look, look, I'm six years older than you, and I truly believe that in five to eight years, your mentality will change as well. You will also be a different type of person. So I personally think even your thought of that will. Might change as well. You know what I mean? So.

[D]

But I feel like it won't because, like, of the C section thing, like, you can only have so many.

[A]

That's a good point.

[D]

Where then it gets risky.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, I would have had them, like, not C section then. Yeah, I would. I think this would be a different conversation, but it's solely because I've had the C section. And then say I accidentally do get pregnant. Say we have a fourth and I still get pregnant, like, later on. Like, then that becomes scary because I would only have to have another C section again.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then it's like, I'm just, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's kind of.

[B]

What's your husband's name?

[D]

Bobby.

[B]

Is Bobby listening right now?

[D]

He is listening.

[B]

Bobby, you're gonna have to chop your dick off. I'm sorry, brother.

[A]

Bro, that's. I'm pretty sure that's what. That's what comes with it.

[D]

No, you gotta do it.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

She said, let's do it. Look, I. I am on Bobby's side. I am. He, he, him, and yourself, and especially him, has to look in the mirror and said, you know what? My wife gave me three kids. This will be a lot easier for. For her life, for her. For her health.

[C]

Health.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It is reversible later in life. If he wanted to do it. But I think if that. My wife asked me and this is something she really wanted me to do, I would look in the mirror and I would say, you know what? Do I love my wife? Do. Do I love my wife?

[C]

Do.

[B]

Do I respect what she's done and. And what she's telling me. And if the answer is yes, then it. Why not? I would do it.

[A]

It seems like you're not on Bobby's side, I think. But by the way, I agree with you.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I understand the fear that where he's coming from.

[B]

Like, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

I get that, like, this deeper, hard conversation that she's like having, like, that's like you said, looking yourself in the mirror and being like, do I. Do you got to be selfless? It's a selfless act.

[B]

Is this something that you guys just thought about this year or last year? Is this something new?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so maybe just so we. Maybe just so we can have. Have, you know, a little bit of. You're right. And he's right. Just give it maybe another year or two.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And come back to. To this conversation.

[A]

That's fair.

[B]

I would maybe do that. You know what I mean? Like, since this is brand new, I would be like, you know what? Okay, I get it. Let's give it another year or two. And guess what? If you're pregnant again, it's meant to be, baby girl. You wanted a fourth one.

[D]

Yeah. Give it some more time.

[B]

They're gonna have a force.

[A]

Oh, it's. Understand.

[B]

No, they want.

[A]

Want.

[B]

She always wanted a fourth. Got it. But she's had, you know, C sections, so the fourth.

[A]

The fourth, it would be. That's. So it would be the vasectomy before. You're saying, like, get the vasectomy now or this?

[D]

No, I'm saying, like, just after. At the end of the year. If we decide, just in general. If we decide at the end of the year that we're gonna have another one. Okay, we'll do that and then revisit the vasectomy, you know, after the fourth kid. But if we know we're done with three, and we decided this at the end of this year, we're done. We don't want the four birth. We're done having kids. Then, like, why not just get it now? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And.

[B]

And Bobby, I heard. My dad told me that, like, you still get. You know, you still get doodle and like, segun. Supposedly, like, stuff still comes out of you and the sensation is the same. They say that I heard shooting blanks, so it might. Yeah, you literally shoot blanks.

[A]

And they numb your balls, dude. You know what I mean? So it's not like you're. It's.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It's not crazy. I know it sounds crazy, obviously, like they're snipping your balls, but apparently it's painless. Like, there's. There's not.

[B]

Do you guys know how the procedure is done? No, I have no idea. I mean, I. I heard. I've heard, like, stories, but I haven't researched it myself or looked into it. I'm avoiding that.

[A]

Have you. So you haven't heard any, like, horror stories or anything? Like, that. That kind of creative.

[B]

I have heard some horror stories. One of their balls, like, swelled up and was, like, you know, purple.

[D]

And that was, like, one. That was only one person out of, like, so many people that have done it. On you and your family,

[B]

if that.

[A]

What does Bobby's family think about this? Like, the people. Since he has, like, a.

[D]

They said he should do it. No. Yes. Well, no. The only person who said no was his mom, because she wants us to have a fourth.

[A]

Okay, that's fine.

[D]

But after that. That.

[B]

Yeah, she's down. She thinks it's a good idea. Yeah.

[A]

Bro, it's so crazy. We have, like, a photo up, like, how it works, and it seems so

[B]

they literally tie your Up. Yeah.

[A]

No, they snip it so it's not connected anymore.

[B]

Yeah, but they tie it. They feel it.

[A]

They literally tie it at the ends of each knot. Yeah. That's crazy.

[B]

Or else it just be a loose hose.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Then you just be coming all over inside your own balls.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I think you guys have time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think this is a great. I think it's good that you guys are having this conversation early on. There's still, like, I said, there's still, like, six months to the end of the year. You guys are gonna see where you're at with the fourth, and then if you guys do or don't, you guys can revisit this exactly a year from now.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair. And I think that'll give Bobby, you know, some time to really, like, sit

[A]

in this and process this. Right. Because I just. From the sound of Bobby's voice, I feel like he's got a good head on the shoulder. You know, he wants to do right by you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I also understand the fear. But he has time. He has time to really think about this, especially, you know, what's cool is that he has family who's done it.

[C]

It.

[A]

So he has that, like, reassurance. It's not something, like, out of, like, brand new. You know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You can talk to people about it and get some perspective, some insight, and he has time to do so.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. But there's Harris.

[A]

Your balls, Bobby.

[C]

Yeah,

[B]

I would say this, Isabelle. From the first moment when we spoke to you, I kind of wasn't on your side, but now I kind of am. I just want to let you know that.

[D]

That. Okay, good. Good.

[A]

What you just said.

[B]

I. I

[C]

Over here.

[B]

Nah, Bobby, we're boys, man. You. If you. You know what? If you do it. I'll do it.

[A]

No.

[D]

All right. No,

[B]

we'll do it in the same room. And if one of our bowl go up, we'll all look at each other's balls.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

All right, let's do it.

[A]

Isabelle, thank you so much.

[C]

I, I.

[A]

Please keep us posted. Yeah, yeah. Let us know what happens. I'm curious to see if you guys have baby number four and how this

[B]

really, I, I can already see me and Josh 912 months from now. It's like, hey, remember Isabelle? That one? Yeah, he did it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The next day.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You remember? Yeah, he did. Cool.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Thank you, Isabelle. And not only thank you for this, but thank you so much for supporting la platica. We really appreciate you. We love you, Isabelle.

[A]

I'm gonna get your information.

[D]

Thank you so much.

[A]

I want to sen saluth care package, so if you can send Jess, like your mailing address, I. I'll hook you up. You and Bobby.

[D]

Oh, perfect. Thank you so much.

[A]

Of course. All righty, we'll talk soon.

[D]

All right, bye, guys.

[A]

Okay, bye.

[B]

See you, Bobby.

[A]

Later, Bobby.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Okay. Crazy.

[B]

Yeah, that is.

[A]

Listen, bro, my wife had three C sections and she told me, like, yo, I want, I need you to get.

[B]

I would consider it four kids.

[A]

I'm done, bro. I'm done.

[B]

And, and, and now thinking about it, and I should have said this to Isabelle now thinking about it. So, like, why wouldn't I, bro? I don't have to use. I don't have to be safe anymore. I can just enjoy having sex. Like, oh, me? What happened, brodcast? Did you just quit?

[A]

No, I was just, like, thinking about her. I was just like, damn, that's. That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. After the phone call was done, you just quit the whole podcast.

[A]

Like, you know what?

[B]

Like, at least say bye to somebody.

[C]

No.

[A]

And like, yeah, I feel like, like, I like Bobby's. I wish I would have known for Bobby, like, is your only reasoning that you're scared?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because if that's your only reasoning, bro, like, you, you gotta get over that, you know, because this is so much deeper than just a fear that you have.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and I don't really consider

[B]

it, like, because, you know, for a man doing something like that, a lot of guys would be like, it's taking away my manhood.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's not. It's just the same thing. If anything, it's better. It's like getting lasik, bro.

[A]

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Really good question.

[B]

I was very Surprised?

[A]

Yeah. And honestly, she was first, like, she was kind of worded in a way of like, you know, I've gone through so much in my body, like now

[B]

I thought it was more like just do it for like, do it for like my own sake.

[A]

Yeah. And I was like, there's no way she's coming from that angle. And. And I'm glad that you asked it, because I was like, this is deeper. This is deeper than just that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I don't think anybody wants to see their partner suffer just because they suffer. That's not true love. You know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But when it comes to something of that magnitude seriousness.

[B]

The heart problems, the three C sections.

[A]

So that. So because she's had three, she's the one. She can't have natural birth anymore.

[C]

Correct. Cuz they're slicing into the uterus every time. And that weakens because it's a muscle, you know, so it weakens and then it scars and then it weakens and then it's like, it's just an ongoing.

[B]

If it's happened three times, it's bound to happen the fourth. What, like she had three C sections?

[A]

Well, just saying, like she has to too, at this point. So if she has a fourth, it's gonna happen.

[B]

Yeah. And you know what? At the end of the day, she's the one having the baby. So like whatever she says, you know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like, you can't really say anything about that.

[A]

I. Danny, even the more sitting. If my wife had three of my children, bro.

[B]

Four. I hope, I hope she's watching this, though. I'm sure she is.

[A]

I'm snipping, bro. I'm toes out, pedicure out, snip. I'm doc, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think she has a point, man. I think she does have a point. It'll be a lot easier. And like I said now thinking about it, I mean, it's so much easier. You don't got to pull out anymore. You don't have to be like, be careful. Everything still works. Everything still works. You still spit out shit like it's good.

[A]

I guess I would only really side with him if he was like, look, bro, I'm 33 years old. I do feel young for this. I want to have. I do want to have more kids, but she wants to stop at 4. So that's why I'm a little bit more hesitant to do it. That I can kind of be like, okay, I get you, you know, but you, you know, guess I'VE had four.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and this is what she's asking because she's scared now.

[C]

Down.

[A]

Now it's getting to, like, a deeper issue where she's.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, it's just more complicated.

[B]

No, she has a point. But I also get Bobby. It's a scary thing. I mean, I can't even get put under anesthesia. I mean, getting Lasik, getting anything done that. I go to the hospital. I can't even take Advil because I'm scared. I mean, like, I understand. Like, dude, like, the way they do it, that's. That's kind of scary. They, like, surgically go into your weebles and just do that. You know? That's scary.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I get it. But I. I think giving it some time. Still know it, you know? But I think now, thinking about it, I. I think you should. You got three kids already. You got a lot of kids.

[A]

I don't think I would necessarily do it, if I'm being honest, but if it was a situation where it was like a. A health thing for my wife, I. Then I would.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Does that make sense? But other than that, I don't think I. I wouldn't. I wouldn't necessarily.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, but you.

[B]

You also don't have three kids, so your mentality. Maybe when you do have three kids might change. Yeah, my dad did it, and he was down on. He's the one that probably said, yo, I need to get this snip it. You know, just don't have to worry about it anymore.

[A]

For sure. I guess. I guess that makes sense.

[C]

But.

[B]

Yeah, I think they should sit. Sit on it, bro.

[A]

That was so good, because that's real, bro. That's, like, such a real issue, you know, And a lot of people go through that. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Hopefully we answered it correctly.

[A]

Damn. She's got. They got three already at 30. They've been cranking them out.

[B]

That's true, dude. Good for her.

[A]

I know. I think about that, too. I'm like, I got no kids, bro. No kids. I'm in a tank. Talk with beautiful toes. Just hanging out with you, bro.

[B]

And I'm just taking creatine. And I told him, like, dude, at 33 years old, like, he's getting a vasectomy. You know what I was doing at 33 years old? Not getting one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was, like, not even thinking about it, bro.

[A]

Yeah, no. Well, yeah.

[B]

Like, just.

[D]

But.

[A]

But like you said earlier, he's gonna get a vasectomy. Three kids, bro.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

At 33. Didn't have three kids.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's what they say. Things change when you have kids. Even mentality.

[A]

What's our time? I think we're good. We can save the other one.

[C]

One?

[B]

Yeah. She can't even get on the call. Okay.

[C]

It might be a little short just because we did spend some. We never cut that.

[D]

And we.

[C]

We didn't. We were spending time trying to like, problem solve and stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So that's.

[A]

I think we can go into your hair. Yeah, we haven't touched on that.

[B]

Yeah, let's just do that because it's already an hour. Yeah, technically it's like we're gonna spend like 10, 15 minutes for all that process to fix.

[C]

So it's at like 45. 5. 45.

[B]

Yeah. We're money.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just say it, man. What the thing you want to say to me.

[B]

I don't want to say anything to you.

[A]

You sure?

[B]

I feel like we've had a great podcast today, by the way. Thank you, Jess. That was an amazing, amazing.

[A]

Honestly, Jess, that was really cool. Thank you so much for vetting those.

[C]

That.

[A]

Those people out and the questions you didn't do today. Yeah, dude. Waste of space.

[B]

For real, bro. I forgot you're in here.

[A]

He's got a tennis bas now. He's changed. Show us your tennis race, bro. Come on. He acting different.

[B]

He acting different.

[A]

Congratulations on it too. We just talked about this yesterday. He's like, you know what? I'm spending money, cuz.

[B]

He said a jeweler, and I was like, oh, wait, I know a jeweler.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The jeweler was sick. I checked him out, bro. He's sick. Yeah, he's super.

[B]

Congrats, bro. That's a really good piece to have. You deserve it for real.

[A]

So should we just end it? I mean, there's nothing really else to say. We covered Isabelle. We talked about my beautiful toes. I think we're. That's a wraps up. Unless you guys dress. Is there anything else in the prompts that we should discuss? Did you guys feel something different about this episode?

[C]

For sure.

[A]

There was something a little bit different, right?

[B]

Okay, fine.

[A]

You walked in different.

[B]

Just tell us, dude.

[A]

Just tell us. Your aura was different.

[B]

Fine. I cut my hair.

[A]

You're a. Oh, did you? Did not.

[B]

Yeah, I know it's not too drastic, but I cut my hair. I thought it was time for me to shed.

[A]

Ah.

[B]

You know, when a snake or a chameleon or some of those reptiles shed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They need something new just in order to, you know, to live on more freshly new Beginnings. New beginnings.

[A]

Can I podcast for a second? Can I interview you?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

How long have you been growing out your hair?

[B]

I would say three years, since my wedding.

[A]

And what was the reasoning you decided

[B]

to do it after my wedding? I wanted to look somewhat dapper, sharp for my wedding, so I kind of kept it a certain way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right before my wedding, I was blonde. You guys. You guys remember that?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I just said, you know what? Can you do it? I think you can. My hair's very curly. I wanted to see what would happen if I not just grew my hair, but grew my hair all around. Cabeza, the whole thing. Sides, top, back, lower back, whatever. I wanted to see what that would look like.

[A]

That's cool, bro.

[B]

And I did it. And three years later is. Is what you guys all known me for. I absolutely loved having long hair. It was beautifully curly. It was luxurious. It was nice and wavy. Nice and thick. I probably had one of the best man buns to exist. Exist on the face of this earth, probably ever. But, you know, talking about this vacation again, going on vacation in a couple days. I wanted. You know, I just said to myself, I think it's time, you know, and. And it's gonna be a hard goodbye.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it might not be a goodbye. Maybe just for now. It's goodbye for now, and I hope to see you soon type of thing. Right.

[A]

Who's the person in the Bible who gets all his strength from his hair? Is it like, Avatar? No. Is it. Is it Saul? Is that his name? No. Samuel. Samuel. Samson. Samson. Did you feel like you lost some sort of.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anybody who knows me knows. Hey, that's Sebast, the guy with the majestic ass mane.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? And my hair's still majestic. Let's not. Let's not get that twisted.

[A]

You lost all your ego powers, man.

[B]

So I did feel like I. I lost something. It's. It's been with me for three years, man.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's a part of my identity.

[A]

Yeah, but you gained so much.

[B]

I did.

[A]

Yeah. I did.

[B]

So just a quick memoir for my hair. I just want to let my hair know that I do miss you. I think about you. I. I love the memories that we created. You looked good on me, and I looked good on you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thank you so much for allowing me to create looks with you and allowing me to see myself in a different style. You changed me as a man. You also clogged every single drain in my house. But I liked it, bro.

[A]

You straight up, Vasectomy. In your hair? I did straight up.

[B]

I did a straight vasectomy on my hair, dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's really it, man. I just wanted a new change. The cons about having the main that I had is, yeah, a lot of hair would fall off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I told you already, out of 30 days, out of the month, I would maybe do my hair. Whether it be nice and moist and let the curls out, or a slick bun, middle part bun, ballerina bun, whatever you want to call it, when it would look actually nice and proper. It's probably seven out of those 30 days, I would do my hair. So it's like, most of the time, I just had it to the side, you know, had it in a bunch of messy. And at the end of the day, it just. I just wanted something new for myself. I. One of the things that actually stopped me from cutting my hair is I never really found somebody that I was in love with, like a hair stylist, barber that can actually do it. And I finally found somebody. Shout out to the homie. Jack. Just met him. Yeah, he's in. I mean, if you can tell, like, by my hair, like, yeah, it's kind of curly right now, but.

[A]

And this is coming from somebody who knows.

[B]

Somebody who knows, man. So, like, I'm not a picky guy, but when it comes to hair, Hair, I know what's up.

[A]

You know what's up.

[B]

So this guy knew what's up, man? And he did a remarkable job. He knew how to cut my hair. I absolutely love it. I literally can't wait to go take a shower.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I can't wait to start styling my hair again. I needed something versatile.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So some. A hairstyle that I can rock. Like this. A hairstyle that I can slick back. A hairstyle that can have Shaggy that I. That can do it all. Slick it back, like old money.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? So I hope you guys like it. I'm sure a lot of you guys will. A lot of people are like, cut that thing off already.

[A]

I told you this on text, bro. Look, bro. Thank God. Extremely handsome, and you can pull off anything.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

So I was never worried. I never had a fear. And I don't think you look like the guy from Love island completely.

[B]

Here we go.

[A]

No, but everyone's saying that. But no, I don't believe that.

[B]

I don't think anybody said that.

[A]

No, I think there's a bunch of people saying that. Just. Can you pull him up? Can you pull up the. The dude? Cuz I don't think he does. I saying you don't, bro.

[B]

Bring him on the pod.

[A]

No matter what they say. Bring him on the podcast.

[B]

What his name? Zach.

[A]

Yeah, Zach. You don't look like. No, no, dude. Okay. You look like Zach, dude.

[B]

I Lowkey look like Zach. Great guys. That great looking guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, but I did it. I hope everybody here in this room likes it. It's a new me. And also I feel like I am a new me just internally. So I just needed something new. But yes, it was very hard to. To. To give away, especially when he just snipped it all off. But who says I can't grow it back?

[A]

Bro, you can totally grow. That's the cool thing about hair. Vasectomy is on the other hand, reversible is. Is, you know, but your hair isn't.

[B]

You'll never be the same as, say, Bobby. Yeah. So I absolutely love the way I look right now. It's a new look. I. It's. It's. I. I feel like I'm a completely different person.

[A]

It.

[B]

It brightened me up so. Very happy. Shout out to Jack and yeah. So everybody who I. I would see the DMs. Okay, I did it. I look good now.

[A]

You look good. Love it, bro. Thank you guys so much for watching. If you're not subscribed, please subscribe. We appreciate you and we love you. And please fill out the form bl so we can and get a chance to talk to you guys and we will see you next week when we're back from vacation, baby.

[B]

Finally.

[A]

We're back.

[B]

What a what? What a show.

[A]

What a show. Ciao, ciao, guy.