"Chunks" (w/ Julio Torres)

Summary

Las Culturistas: “Chunks” (w/ Julio Torres) — Episode Summary

Podcast: Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Episode: "Chunks" (w/ Julio Torres)
Original Air Date: August 27, 2025
Guest: Julio Torres
Main Theme: A wide-ranging, playful exploration of contemporary queer and pop culture, with discussions on theater, iconic dresses, gay archetypes, beauty pageants, and Julio Torres' new show, Color Theory.

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Overview

In this lively episode, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang welcome returning favorite Julio Torres for a “chunked” conversation (in the best sense) about culture in all its forms. The trio covers everything from theater etiquette, the making of Julio’s Color Theory, gay cultural archetypes, the nuances of beauty pageants, to the peculiarities of mannequins in stores. Along the way, there are many digressions (embraced with delight), inside jokes, and “rules of culture” declared.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. "Chunks" and the Structure of Performance

• The Sacred Chunks:
  • Matt introspectively refers to his Color Theory show as being in “six chunks.”
  • Julio: “There’s no less compatible word for Julio Torres in the English language than ‘chunks.’” (13:11)
  • The group discusses the uneasy, funny vibe around the word “chunks,” eventually adopting it affectionately.
• Performance Structure & Theater-isms:
  • Julio and Matt talk through theater etiquette: opening nights, previews, and what makes a show “off-Broadway” (determined by seat counts, not location). (09:01–10:26)
  • Matt riffs on the absurdity of the off-Broadway label:
    • “It’s not an off Broadway show. It’s an on First Avenue.” (10:23)

2. Pop Culture, Gay Archetypes & Event Planning

• Wedding Gays & Seaside Gays:
  • Much appreciation (and gentle ribbing) of the gay men always at weddings or at seaside homes.
  • Julio: “There’s a kind of gay guy, just like on Cape... a seaside town.” (12:57)
• Beauty Pageants & Drag:
  • Obsession with vintage beauty pageants, especially male beauty pageants—“the most gorgeous men from every nation in tuxedos.” (26:16–27:38)
  • Fantasies of hosting or creating a male beauty pageant and a queer NYC bar drag pageant, where each bar is represented like a contestant.
• Halloween Event Brainswarming:
  • Matt is planning his next Halloween party (“Mommy’s Moods”), workshopping party concepts live.
  • Discussion of costume contest criteria (e.g., “bring a reveal” under another costume) and possible dates for the event. (35:02–38:36)

3. Iconic Fashion and the “Most Famous Dress” Debate

• Ranking the Most Famous Dresses:
  • Marilyn Monroe’s white dress is unanimously #1.
  • “The Dress” (the black/blue or white/gold optical illusion viral dress) is #2.
  • Marge Simpson’s green column dress gets strong support.
  • Other contenders: J.Lo’s Versace, Björk’s swan dress, Lady Diana’s “revenge” dress, Belle’s yellow gown from Beauty and the Beast, and Rose’s evening dress from Titanic.
  • Debated criteria: if you can’t draw it from memory, does it count?
• Reality Forks at The Dress:
  • Bowen: “Rule of culture number 15 is: ‘The Dress’ is when reality forks.” (54:51)

4. Mannequins: The Shoe Controversy

• Julio's "I Don’t Think So, Honey":
  • An impassioned rant about how department stores fail their mannequins by not putting shoes on them—even when the mannequins have realistic features like toenails. (97:09)
  • “Give her a pump.” (97:59)
• Mannequin Realism Debate:
  • Discussion on whether mannequins need hair, eyewear, wallets for true realism. If it’s realistic to have toenails, why not glasses?

5. Queer New York Lore & Legends

• Anonymous Icons:
  • Story of "Demon Twink," an infamous partygoer at a Ty Sunderland boat party (41:00), and the legend of the “cockroach at cursed amulet.”
• Fire Island Folklore:
  • Tales of the “fag who cried shark”—a naked guy warning about a shark (“massive cock, swinging around, yelling...”) who turned out to be right.
  • “You have to believe the fag who cried shark.” (44:07)

6. “I Don’t Think So, Honey” Segments (Rants & Culture Rules)

• Bowen’s:
  • Slams listeners who thought an Addison Rae lyric was “Costco chain” not “cross gold chain.”
  • “What is a Costco chain?... You need to get your ears checked.” (86:46)
• Julio’s:
  • See mannequin shoes tirade above.
• Conversation on Disabling IG Comments:
  • How to manage social media toxicity; both have limited comments to followers only.

7. Meta-Commentary on the Entertainment Industry

• General Meetings in Hollywood:
  • Lamenting the decline of the old “general” meeting:
    • “I miss when we took generals… Now we don’t get generals anymore.” (60:13)
• Show Business Realism:
  • Bowen recalls presenting Julio with a Gotham Award, the awkwardness and pomp around it, and how show business events are always a little surreal and full of inside baseball.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the structure of Julio’s show:
  “I’m gonna say six chunks.” – Matt (08:20)

• The discomfort with “chunks”:
  “There’s no less compatible word for Julio Torres in the English language than ‘chunks.’” – Julio (13:11)

• On Off-Broadway shows:
  “A wedding can be off-Broadway.” – Matt (10:41)

• On legendary dresses:
  “The dress is when reality forks.” – Bowen (54:51)

• On anonymous queer icons:
  “There are figures who just disappear. Like Demon Twink.” – Julio (41:40)

• On beauty pageants:
  “I’m obsessed with male beauty pageants… the most gorgeous men from every nation in tuxedos.” – Matt (26:16)

• On viral lyric confusion:
  “I don’t think so, honey, the people who thought the lyric in Diet Pepsi was ‘Costco chain’.” – Bowen (86:46)

• On mannequins without shoes:
  “The mannequin has toenails. You have to put shoes on the mannequin.” – Julio (97:09)

• On managing social media:
  “If you want to say racist or homophobic things, you got to hit the follow button.” – Matt (88:47)

• On good-natured costume contest rules:
  “The reveal can’t be that you’re just wearing a cloak… you’ll be in the bottom two for sure.” – Matt (39:19)

• On Swiftian Easter eggs:
  “Everything is intentional until it’s not.” – Bowen (106:07)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro, Off-Broadway/Show Structure talk:
  03:00–10:26
• Wedding Gays & Seaside Gays:
  12:56–14:00
• Beauty Pageant Obsession:
  25:34–28:58
• Legends of Queer Nightlife (“Demon Twink”):
  41:00–42:06
• The Dress/Famous Dresses Debate:
  52:23–57:57
• I Don’t Think So, Honey Segments:
  86:17–98:11
• Social Media Management:
  88:01–89:42
• Mannequin Realism Riff:
  97:09–100:16

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Final Thoughts & Tone

The episode is chatty, digressive, and packed with in-jokes delivered in a signature blend of irony, affection, and performative camp. Even as the hosts spiral into ridiculous hypotheticals—about parties, pop stars, or the inner lives of mannequins—the discussion is grounded in the specificity and shared lived experience of queer culture. Julio, as ever, brings a singular, whimsical logic to every subject, and the group’s joy in each other’s company is palpable throughout.

Transcript

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I mean if you want to get into some touchscreen technology, how about the smart charging case? Clear sound These are not stand. You're only going to get them with the JBL Tour Pro 3, baby.

[Julio Torres]

And I love the sound of JBL when it goes. These earbuds are packed with innovation because you can't stand out by following others.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

Grab a [e-mail] hey, big news for all you platonic fans. Season two is officially out on Apple TV. If you missed season one, here's the gist. Seth Rogen and Rose Byrne legends play a pair of platonic besties just like Matt and I who are a total disaster together in the funniest way.

[Bowen Yang]

I can't wait to see that. Luke McFarlane. Well now I'm really excited. Luke and Carla Gallo.

[Julio Torres]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Get me to the theater. I mean, the show.

[Matt Rogers]

The tv.

[Bowen Yang]

The tv. See, the thing is, Apple TV is like watching a mo in your own home. Everything on there is so excellent. And you'll spot some familiar faces from SNL, like A.D. bryant.

[Julio Torres]

I know her.

[Bowen Yang]

Season two of Platonic is now streaming on Apple TV. Plus, it's hilarious. Go check it out. Look, man.

[Matt Rogers]

Where?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I see my eye. Oh, my.

[Julio Torres]

Bowen.

[Bowen Yang]

Look over there. Wow.

[Julio Torres]

Is that culture?

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Julio Torres]

Goodness.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Las culturistas.

[Bowen Yang]

Ding dong.

[Julio Torres]

Las culturistas.

[Bowen Yang]

Calling bro.

[Matt Rogers]

Bro.

[Bowen Yang]

You for a second had a moment there where you forgot we were calling each other bro.

[Julio Torres]

I did. But today over text, I think we were talking and sort of exasperatedly, I said, bro.

[Matt Rogers]

Bro.

[Bowen Yang]

You spelled it bro.

[Julio Torres]

I said bro. But I've been saying bro.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm down to call each other bro.

[Julio Torres]

But bro.

[Bowen Yang]

Bro.

[Julio Torres]

Very Marisol and Alexia coded, which is us. Which is us.

[Bowen Yang]

You know, it's funny, like, we're saying these words like Alexia, Marisol. Our guest has no idea what we're talking about.

[Julio Torres]

We just had to explain to him who Tom Girard.

[Bowen Yang]

And it was.

[Julio Torres]

And I think he learned well.

[Bowen Yang]

He internalized.

[Julio Torres]

Internalized.

[Bowen Yang]

And he externalizes brilliance.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, my goodness, I can't wait to internalize into Performance Space nyc, the venue of his new show, Color Theory.

[Bowen Yang]

Color Theory is very external title.

[Julio Torres]

Very external.

[Bowen Yang]

You think of colors when you say it. In fact, I even wore sort of a color today.

[Julio Torres]

You did?

[Bowen Yang]

For those of you who are watching the podcast on our YouTube channel, I'm wearing blue.

[Julio Torres]

This is so interesting, and I think I'm gonna save this until we bring him in, but I think you are such a specific audience to go see this show about colors. A colorblind individual as a colorblind king.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Do you think I'll still like it?

[Julio Torres]

I think some jokes you'll be like, oh, I don't know what chartreuse is. I guess that's not for me. That's niche humor.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I say what chartreuse sounds like? Sounds like some kind of red char. Char is arid fire. Oh, interesting.

[Julio Torres]

Well, yeah, they came up with a color name after Pokemon, so that might be why.

[Bowen Yang]

Is it blue?

[Julio Torres]

No, what is it? It's like a greenish yellow. Like a greenish yellow.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, now I've heard everything.

[Julio Torres]

Now, Color Theories is playing on a limited run, 22 performances only, September 3rd.

[Bowen Yang]

I wonder if there's anything to the number 22. I wonder if Julio was like Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift in numerology. It's not just color theories. It's also numerology. What if we found out that there's been Easter eggs for years?

[Julio Torres]

For decades.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, that Julio has been doing Easter eggs.

[Julio Torres]

Well, I want to talk to him about numbers. Cause I feel like he's done a lot of great material about letters and now about colors. I don't think shapes, of course. I wonder if numbers are his next foray.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, foray. He's right there.

[Julio Torres]

He's right there. Let's ask him. Well, let's ask him. Okay. This is color theory. September 3rd through September 22nd. Get your tickets. Color dash Theory. Are those the dates?

[Matt Rogers]

I was, like, looking for cue cards. You know, all those cue cards.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, babe, we don't need the cue cards.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, no. Who do you think we are, Seth Meyers? We don't need a segment producer running.

[Matt Rogers]

You don't have an earpiece or anything? You just, like, look, check the earbs.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you looked in our ear holes today?

[Matt Rogers]

Wow. And you just knew the date. I don't know the dates.

[Julio Torres]

Well, I do. They're September 3rd through September 22nd. 22 performances only performance space, NYC.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm going on September 10th, which I heard is, like, one of the big nights.

[Julio Torres]

That's the big 9:10. The 9:10.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Well, why don't you go on 9:10 with me?

[Julio Torres]

I'm going opening night, 9:3. I want to wear. I want the opening night playbill.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, for your collections.

[Julio Torres]

For my collections.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, everyone, I do love framing your playbill.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you frame? I do. I don't actually frame my playbill. Oh, that would be fun to find out.

[Matt Rogers]

That was a disparaging comment to disparage.

[Julio Torres]

Me, making fun of the fact that I was an erstwhile pitizen. Now, everyone, welcome into yours. He's our great friend. He's a fresh. A Peabody win for Cosmos Problemista.

[Bowen Yang]

I actually presented our guest with his Gotham award for best lead performance in a comedy series with our friend alongside his partner.

[Julio Torres]

He's partnered Jimmy Scully. Now, everyone, welcome for the fifth time perhaps, on Lost Culture, our friend, our family, Julio Torres.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Hello, Hello. Hello.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you think I'll enjoy the show despite being color impaired? I enjoy you so much.

[Matt Rogers]

I think so.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah. I can go through the. You know what I'm gonna do? I am gonna go through my outline and highlight the parts that I think you will enjoy and give you a percentage of how much of the show I think you'll enjoy.

[Bowen Yang]

I think that will be helpful.

[Julio Torres]

And then you have to grade each beat each moment of the show. On a scale of 0 to 100.

[Matt Rogers]

And then the moments that I don't think will resonate with you are just na.

[Bowen Yang]

And will you allow me at that point to just sort of get up and walk around the space?

[Julio Torres]

Oh, no, of course.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

So at that point in the show, just.

[Matt Rogers]

You can, like, schedule a meeting, whatever you need, and then come back.

[Bowen Yang]

I'll just get out of my earphones. Hey. Yes, yes, of course. It's a good time. Of course.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I'm just missing this part that I. He doesn't think I would.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, he told me. He told me.

[Matt Rogers]

He told me.

[Bowen Yang]

They go, shh. I go, no, he told me.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, this part's na.

[Matt Rogers]

This part.

[Julio Torres]

This part. 15 or na. Yeah, 15%. Wait, how many sections in the outline are there?

[Bowen Yang]

Let's get into it.

[Julio Torres]

Let's get into it.

[Bowen Yang]

I want to know. Process.

[Matt Rogers]

I love. Yeah, that's a really great way of promoting work. How many sections can we.

[Bowen Yang]

How many sections can we expect?

[Julio Torres]

Sections can we expect?

[Matt Rogers]

I think there's broadly. I'm gonna say six chunks.

[Julio Torres]

Six chunks.

[Matt Rogers]

Six chunks. Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Chunk number two. So I like doing tech and be like, can we go back to chunk number three? I wanna go to the. Just at the top of chunk three. There was a moment in the chunk that I wanted to work.

[Matt Rogers]

Were you ever properly theater boys?

[Julio Torres]

I wouldn't say so. Like, in college, I mean, like, Matt did shows. I did not.

[Bowen Yang]

I did so. I was always a writing student, but they allowed me to do shows. There was one cool theater cool one at NYU called Exper. Theater Wing, where they, like, didn't give a. Two middle fingers. It's very like, bro. You know what I mean? It was like, we would. They would have take anyone that was talented to come do shows. Otherwise you couldn't.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. Because I am learning a lot of, like, theater etiquette. Etiquette lingo rules.

[Julio Torres]

Like, God, Mike.

[Matt Rogers]

God Mike. No, I knew God, Mike. I knew God, Mike.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. You know.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. They have flashcards for me.

[Julio Torres]

What do you mean?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, that's so cute.

[Julio Torres]

No, they don't.

[Bowen Yang]

I thought you were satisfying Spotlight.

[Matt Rogers]

No, things like opening night is not the first.

[Bowen Yang]

Performance.

[Julio Torres]

It's after previews.

[Matt Rogers]

Because I was like, there's a mistake in the calendar. Because why is opening night after previews After. And who are we previewing this to? Right?

[Bowen Yang]

That is something that, to me, a.

[Matt Rogers]

Preview is a trailer. Because I come from film and toast.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, you come from the world of film.

[Julio Torres]

You have to learn a lot.

[Matt Rogers]

I have to unlearn. I Have to unlearn a lot. Or like the concept of this being an off Broadway show.

[Julio Torres]

Right. How does that make you feel?

[Matt Rogers]

I don't understand why mentioning a street that has nothing to do with the show. Like, it's also not on Canal Street. Right. It's also off Canal Street. It's also, like, off.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Can you say on First Avenue?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. It's not an off Broadway show. It's an on First Avenue.

[Bowen Yang]

That's really good. Did they ever tell you what distinguishes an on Broadway and off Broadway show? The reason will shock you is, like.

[Matt Rogers]

The number of seats.

[Bowen Yang]

99 is the most. Is the max number of seats you can have in off Broadway.

[Julio Torres]

Off Broadway.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so question.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

A wedding can be off Broadway.

[Bowen Yang]

See, this is where it gets crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

If it can be on Broadway more.

[Julio Torres]

Than 99 seats, it's a Broadway wedding.

[Bowen Yang]

Depends how many friends you have. If you have a lot of friends, you're a big Broadway star now.

[Julio Torres]

Why are you thinking in terms of weddings, Julio?

[Bowen Yang]

What are you popping the question? Well, this would be a great place to launch.

[Matt Rogers]

Getting into wedding planning.

[Julio Torres]

You would be amazing at it.

[Matt Rogers]

I would be incredible. Nothing would arrive on time. Imagine if I actually was responsible for the ice sculpture has to get here at this time so that we can put it in the freezer.

[Julio Torres]

Right. It's everything that you love, but nothing about the logistical execution stuff is ever gonna be okay with you. You're never gonna wear a headset and tell people, okay, release the doves. You're never gonna do that. Release the.

[Bowen Yang]

See, a lot of what you just said, though, I think he would love, like. I think you would always release the doves and release the doves.

[Matt Rogers]

There's no cue.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

Always release the doves as soon as you know they're captured.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, did you ask? Because if they want to be released, they release them at once.

[Matt Rogers]

Release the doves as soon as you find out they're in a cage.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

I'm just bringing that up as an example of there are things operationally or whatever that you have to hit as a wedding planner.

[Matt Rogers]

Releasing the doves.

[Julio Torres]

I'm just saying.

[Matt Rogers]

Kicking out the intruder. Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

There's always one. We saw the movie Wedding Crashers. Very scary.

[Julio Torres]

Very scary.

[Bowen Yang]

What straight men can do.

[Matt Rogers]

I do think there's capable of them. It is surprising to me. And Wait, okay. Ip. IP for the two of you.

[Julio Torres]

Gay wedding planner, gay wedding crasher, wedding gays.

[Matt Rogers]

Cause there is a type of gay man who is always at a wedding.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Couldn't be me. I'M not really at a wedding, but.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what I mean, where you look at the pictures and it's like, how many girls from college do you know?

[Julio Torres]

Oh, for sure.

[Matt Rogers]

They're constantly at a wedding.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

And the caption's always, like, about last night, of course.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

I'm taking umbrage with me. Gay guys who are constantly at their mother's seaside house in Hyannis, whereas there's a kind of gay guy, like, just like on cape. I'm just saying, like a seaside town.

[Matt Rogers]

Seaside gay.

[Julio Torres]

Must be nice.

[Matt Rogers]

Seaside gays.

[Julio Torres]

Seaside gays. And I got a chunky knit, by the way. Let's go back to six chunks, because I think there's no less compatible word for Julio Torres in chunks in the English language. Than chunks.

[Matt Rogers]

Than chunks. Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

How does chunks make you feel?

[Matt Rogers]

It made me feel like maybe I have to have more appreciation for what I do.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I refer to it as chunks.

[Bowen Yang]

So you're looking at this in a positive way, and it's good because it is the title of EP so far. So that's in case you can sort of. You can conjure up something better. Right now, it's the front runner for title event.

[Matt Rogers]

That is unfortunately, a really good title.

[Julio Torres]

But maybe you're coming around on the word.

[Bowen Yang]

The picture of the three of us, like, inevitably, that we take at the end of the episode, smiling, and it says chunks.

[Matt Rogers]

Chunks.

[Bowen Yang]

Kind of love.

[Julio Torres]

Kind of cool.

[Bowen Yang]

Kind of cool.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, what was I going to say about.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, weddings. Oh, seaside gays. I'm just bringing this up as. I'm just.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, what's your problem?

[Julio Torres]

There's no problem. I'm just like, there's.

[Bowen Yang]

You took umbrage.

[Julio Torres]

I take umbrage with. Gay guys were just like a different place every single day. You just did a lot of. You just had a busy itinerary. I'm not calling you out. I'm just saying.

[Matt Rogers]

Speaking of gays, I take umbrage with.

[Bowen Yang]

Speaking of gays, I take umbrage.

[Julio Torres]

Umbrage with.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't like you. You've been a lot of sex.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what? I was just at Fire island for Doll Invasion.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

That was really fun. I did not get to meet Luscious Master.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, was she there?

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, she was there.

[Bowen Yang]

Julio was obsessed with.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm obsessed with Lash Massacre. I think Luscious Massacre, if they are lucky, should be like a Daily show correspondence or a how to with John Wilson. But it's like Luscious Massacre.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Really good. It's like Kunk on earth but luscious massacre.

[Julio Torres]

Hunk on earth but luscious massacre. About different stores. They're drag investigating different stores.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

That would be amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

Dragvestigating, I like.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Drag vestigating.

[Bowen Yang]

Drag vestigation.

[Julio Torres]

Isn't that what she calls it? I think so, yeah. She dragvestigates. I think if. Look, you're a big mover and shaker in the biz in Hollywood.

[Matt Rogers]

In Hollywood.

[Bowen Yang]

Not a lot of power.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I would say I am soundly off Hollywood.

[Julio Torres]

You are off Hollywood. A24.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah. Off the beaten path.

[Julio Torres]

Off the beaten path.

[Bowen Yang]

They made that movie Civil War.

[Matt Rogers]

They made that movie Civil War. Yes. They made that movie Civil War.

[Julio Torres]

Hereditary.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, did they do hereditary?

[Matt Rogers]

I think they did hereditary.

[Bowen Yang]

Of course they did. So creative.

[Matt Rogers]

Shout out to the hand that fed the hand. We love the.

[Julio Torres]

And we never bite.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you thought about this?

[Matt Rogers]

We nibble.

[Bowen Yang]

We nibble. Yeah, playfully. A little bit of gnaw. It was brilliant minds that made the film that made little diva hair. Come off.

[Julio Torres]

Come off.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, rewind.

[Bowen Yang]

So, as you may recall from the.

[Julio Torres]

Culture awards, which you've attended many years, many times, you've been at most of them.

[Matt Rogers]

I've been at three. There's been three, right?

[Bowen Yang]

There's been four.

[Julio Torres]

You've been at three of them.

[Matt Rogers]

Four. I've been at least three.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

The first year you helped us introduce the Macarena.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Was that the first year? It was the first year.

[Matt Rogers]

This was Outside in Lincoln Center.

[Bowen Yang]

That was really good.

[Julio Torres]

And then I think you came back for King's Theater. Yes. You came back at King's Theater.

[Matt Rogers]

Last theater.

[Julio Torres]

And that was when you. You presented an award.

[Matt Rogers]

I know, I know. That's the. I know. That's the year Tilda won.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Maybe. Did you do Artist of the Millennium? And it was Artist of the Millennium.

[Julio Torres]

To Tilda Swinton.

[Bowen Yang]

To Tilda Swinton.

[Matt Rogers]

And I don't know if that was my category, but that is one of.

[Julio Torres]

The things, I think we did plan it, that we were like, okay, Tilda's gonna win Artist of Millennium, so Ghoulio should present. That's how you.

[Matt Rogers]

So you know ahead of time.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Well, peeling back the curtain.

[Bowen Yang]

There's no. Everyone is aware of the fact that we know the winners kind of way before, and so do they.

[Julio Torres]

Julio, don't. Don't be.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't do this. Be true to this. Be true to this for once.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay?

[Julio Torres]

And then this year, you. I think in a highlight of the show, you and Kate really Tore it up with most thrilling threat.

[Matt Rogers]

Kate was so delicious.

[Julio Torres]

Well, I think my favorite part of the show, it changes every day, but my current favorite part of the show is Kate. Kate accepting the award on behalf.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Bowen fell out and I fell out. She goes. I just want to say, seriously, guys, thank you so much for giving me the opportunity.

[Bowen Yang]

Seriously. The opportunity to perform.

[Matt Rogers]

To perform.

[Julio Torres]

Matt, Matt, Matt. Does it, I think, even better than Kate.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, please. No, you know, what did you think? I actually do want to know. What did you think of the movie Magic in that part?

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Because there was thunderclaps. There was. Did you see when you smelled the rose?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And there was sort of a minor chord.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, it was. How long did the edit take? It was like a week, I guess.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, all told, it was like a really tight. So it was like a week.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

How does that make you feel as a post production king, A post production supervisor?

[Matt Rogers]

I think that's very impressive.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you like to be in the edit bay?

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, I'm not.

[Julio Torres]

I'm.

[Matt Rogers]

I. From home.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, from home.

[Julio Torres]

Is it about watching yourself or it's just about the process of, like, okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, let's give it. Oh, it's like, I know what happened. I already know what happens.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, it's the novelty.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the novelty has worn off.

[Bowen Yang]

You know, in theater, you won't have that.

[Julio Torres]

You won't have that.

[Bowen Yang]

Think about that. No post production in theater. It's actually roller coaster number 16. There's no post production in theater. You're gonna love it.

[Julio Torres]

But what about the thought of doing it every night?

[Matt Rogers]

What?

[Julio Torres]

What about the thought of doing it every night?

[Matt Rogers]

This is why there's only 22 performances. Really?

[Bowen Yang]

Is that. Cause all you can. Is that all you can handle? And it's not numerology. Right. There's no secret to the number 22.

[Matt Rogers]

Easter egg.

[Julio Torres]

Julio is really fun.

[Matt Rogers]

I can do. I can. Yeah. Yeah. Ms. Swift and I, we.

[Bowen Yang]

The life of a showgirl. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Life of showgirl. Sweater in my car. I think I left the sweater in his car.

[Bowen Yang]

This is good.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. You like that?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. You're powerful when you. When you really channel your tailor. She hasn't done blue sweater yet.

[Matt Rogers]

She loves in his car. I mean, he wronged me.

[Julio Torres]

You are onto something with car. The car is a common word that.

[Matt Rogers]

Genre Pop girls love a car.

[Bowen Yang]

A car.

[Julio Torres]

Olivia's scarves.

[Matt Rogers]

Scarves is scarves, not sweaters.

[Julio Torres]

No, she has. She sings about sweaters.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, okay, great.

[Julio Torres]

She has a song called Cardigan There you go. Hey everyone. We know many of you probably have a watch list with all the streaming shows you want to see. Well, if you haven't seen Platonic on Apple tv, you need to add it to yours now. It's hilarious. Seth Rogen and Rose Byrne play a pair of platonic besties like Matt and I who are as likely to cause trouble for each other as they are support each other.

[Bowen Yang]

If you have seen it, you already know that, but you might not know that. Season two of Platonic is out now.

[Julio Torres]

This season, Rogan and Byrne deal with uncomfortably hilarious midlife hurdles, including new business ventures, weddings and partners in crises. And as best friends do, they try to help each other but sometimes just make things worse. These two are just so funny together.

[Bowen Yang]

Love them. Luke McFarlane and Carla Gallo are so back this season alongside new guest stars, including some seriously fun SNL alums, A.D. bryant, Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett, and the fabulous Milo Manheim.

[Julio Torres]

If you haven't seen season one, catch up immediately. And if you have, second season of Platonic is now streaming on Apple tv. Plus, don't miss it.

[Bowen Yang]

Why drop a fortune on basics when you don't have to, huh? Quince has the good stuff. High quality fabrics, classic fits and lightweight layers for warm weather. All at prices that make sense. Everything I've ordered from Quince has been nothing but solid.

[Julio Torres]

Quince has closet staples you'll want to reach for over and over with your big hands. Like co cozy cashmere and cotton sweaters from just $50, breathable flow knit polos and comfortable lightweight pants that somehow work for both weekend hangs and dressed up dinners.

[Bowen Yang]

And this is the best part. Everything with Quint is half the cost of similar brands. And by working directly with top artisans and cutting out the middleman, well, Quint gives you luxury pieces without the markup. Why don't you tell everybody about the Quint pieces that you have?

[Julio Torres]

I have some amazing sweaters, amazing oxford shirts. I've got a nice pair of slippers. I've got a knife in my kitchen that's from Gwen's True Story.

[Bowen Yang]

Anything you've been eyeing on the site for the future?

[Julio Torres]

Well, perhaps a merino wool sweater for the fall and winter.

[Bowen Yang]

Sounds like you're gonna have a blast on the website because they have all that stuff and more. Keep it classic and cool with long lasting staples from quince. Go to quince.com culturistas for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com culturistas to get free shipping and 365 day returns.

[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

The Hyundai Getaway Sales Event is going on now. Every now and then you score a deal that's almost too good to be true. Like you feel like you're getting away with something you shouldn't. Well, now is the perfect time to buy the car or SUV you've always wanted at the Hyundai Getaway Sales Event. So get down to your local Hyundai dealer and get away with huge savings. Score a great deal on Hyundai's award winning SUVs like Kona, Tucson, Santa Fe and Palisade. The technology packed Elantra and their most advanced Sonata yet and the all electric Ionic 5 and Ionic 6. But getting away with massive savings is just the beginning because every Hyundai is backed by America's Best Warranty and Hyundai Complimentary Maintenance. Every new Hyundai comes with America's best warranty. With an industry leading ten year for a hundred thousand mile powertrain limited warranty, it's nice to know that a piece of mind comes standard. And there's also three years of 36,000 miles of limited complimentary maintenance on all new 2025 models. These are just a few of the many ways Hyundai has your back after you drive off the dealership lot. Visit Hyundai USA.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details. Offers end September 2, 2025 JBL Tour.

[Julio Torres]

Pro 3 earbuds are for those who are the first to try something unique.

[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Julio Torres]

I love being able to touch my buds and control the volume. Feels amazing on the skin.

[Bowen Yang]

With a built in wireless transmitter that lets you plug and play with any device you want, the JBL Tour 3 connects you to all your favorite music, movies and games.

[Julio Torres]

The wireless transmitter also allows for JBL superior spatial sound that takes any audio and turns it into a 360 immersive experience.

[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages. Right from the case, use the bigger.

[Julio Torres]

Clear 1.57-inch touchscreen to see what song is playing or who's calling you or personalize the Tactile screen with your favorite photo.

[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen to get info on battery life, status, time, messages, etc.

[Julio Torres]

First. Doesn't follow. Grab a [e-mail].

[Bowen Yang]

What do you think of her color right now? Being orange? How do you relate to orange, being the color theorist that you are?

[Matt Rogers]

I think I wouldn't have linked her to orange. Right.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think many people would have. And I think that's almost why she.

[Matt Rogers]

I think that's why she. I would assume that's why she. Because orange is a very intrepid, warm, like, 90s kind of.

[Bowen Yang]

You probably do orange very well, huh?

[Matt Rogers]

Color? I don't think so. I think I'm attracted to orange, but I don't think I. I don't think I do orange.

[Bowen Yang]

He is attracted to orange.

[Julio Torres]

I think I would call your hair.

[Matt Rogers]

You're thinking literally. See, you need to come to the show and learn.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, my God. This is color theory.

[Bowen Yang]

This is color theory.

[Matt Rogers]

Literally.

[Julio Torres]

Okay, before we get into the color theories. And we won't spoil the show, obviously, but I will.

[Bowen Yang]

Pink wins. Oh, pink wins. And yellow dyes.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

What if that was real?

[Julio Torres]

That would be amazing.

[Matt Rogers]

Before I forget. Before I forget, okay. I have been trying to get people to do this with me, and I think that you might be the perfect people. Is just go find a straight up beauty pageant and just sit through it.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I would love that.

[Matt Rogers]

Like a regional beauty pageant.

[Julio Torres]

One year we got a house in the Hamptons. Sorry, but this was right after an snl. And like, me, Celeste and Aidy and Fran and we just kept. And Heidi. And we all watched Miss America from the 80s and it was so fun. It was actually really fun to watch a vintage beauty pageant. Televised beauty pageant.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. You know what I'm also obsessed with is male beauty pageants. I'm talking about, like, not like. Not like Arnold, like bodybuilder. I'm talking like, the most gorgeous men from every nation in tuxedos.

[Julio Torres]

Yep, 1000%.

[Matt Rogers]

Is that so?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, that's probably. And was it very, like, I wonder who.

[Matt Rogers]

They should host one.

[Bowen Yang]

I would love that.

[Julio Torres]

You'd be amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

Straight up. You should host one. You should host one.

[Julio Torres]

You'd be an amazing host.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, of course.

[Julio Torres]

I think Matt would represent America very well. Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Give me some time in the gym.

[Matt Rogers]

So there is this really, really cringy video of like. Okay, so my favorite part of a beauty pageant is their, like, national outfits, you know what I'm talking about?

[Bowen Yang]

That represent their culture.

[Matt Rogers]

They represent their culture. And there's this really. That represent their culture, of course. And there's this really cringey video of the male beauty pageant. And it's like they go one by one and it's like Vietnam and it's like us and it's like, you know the countries that are gonna flop so hard. Right. It's like, you know that like Japan is gonna be gorgeous. But then it's like, you know, it's like Australia. It's like, okay, we have the khaki shorts, right?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And then they get to the us uh huh.

[Bowen Yang]

How gun was it?

[Julio Torres]

Well, jeans.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, if only they had gone cowboy, right?

[Julio Torres]

I love that.

[Matt Rogers]

If only they had gone with cowboy. No, it was truly a party city. Captain America.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Costume.

[Bowen Yang]

That's really hard.

[Matt Rogers]

Like plastic shield.

[Julio Torres]

I'm speechless.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like saying what our culture is like superhero. Like superhero fake nationalism. Great.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah. That's really. And this was recent, I think. So this is why they got something. Right. Back in the day. I'm not saying like the 80s were a better time. I'm just saying I think.

[Matt Rogers]

Did you say that all the time?

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, I do say that all the time. But not on the record.

[Bowen Yang]

He says it a lot off the record. This is the first on the record that you've really said.

[Matt Rogers]

It was your Reagan rants.

[Julio Torres]

My Reagan rants are Reagan raves.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I love Reagan raves.

[Julio Torres]

I think that it's just fun. It's more. That's a good title.

[Bowen Yang]

Reagan Raves with Raves with Julio Torres.

[Julio Torres]

I think there's something fun and time capsule y about like watching an old beauty pageant, a current one makes me think too much about the current state of things.

[Bowen Yang]

Like Vanessa Williams coded.

[Matt Rogers]

When was she missing out?

[Bowen Yang]

She had to win in like 85, 86. Because she famously was. They had to take her title away because she had posed topless and they gave it.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a very puritanical.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, extremely.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

They never would have did. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

So in fact, I can't really think of many people that have won Miss America except the two black women who won it early, early, early on. One was Vanessa Williams and the other was Kenya Moore, who then became like one of the most famous Real Housewives of Atlanta.

[Julio Torres]

Of Atlanta.

[Bowen Yang]

So she was like a real mover. And Shaco. And Move O. And Shaco.

[Julio Torres]

Move O And Shaco.

[Matt Rogers]

Is that long? Is that Long Island?

[Bowen Yang]

I didn't even. That actually is. That's kind of cute.

[Julio Torres]

I actually kind of want that for mainland.

[Bowen Yang]

It's just a speech impediment.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, which I've never had until this moment. Moshe was a real move out. In Shaco. In Vava.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But no, I feel that they are the most famous Miss Americas. Right?

[Julio Torres]

Oh, Olivia Culpo.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yes.

[Julio Torres]

Whose name that I know. She was married to Nick Jonas. Nick Jonas.

[Bowen Yang]

She dated Nick Jonas. She's actually friends with Dave Mazzoni from high school.

[Julio Torres]

Yes. Cause Rhode Island.

[Matt Rogers]

Miss Rhode Island.

[Bowen Yang]

She was Miss Rhode Island. And then she went on to not only become Miss America, but she also won Miss Universe.

[Julio Torres]

Miss Universe.

[Bowen Yang]

Beautiful girl. You'd be shocked.

[Matt Rogers]

The Universe.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. She won all of Miss Universe.

[Matt Rogers]

That's what I know. But that is like. I'm sorry. Until we discover intelligent life elsewhere and they get to compete, you can't call it Miss Universe.

[Julio Torres]

Well, when will that. You can't. You can't stop.

[Matt Rogers]

Any moment now.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, did you see?

[Bowen Yang]

There was a breaking news report that.

[Matt Rogers]

Someone felt they have beauty pageants in other planets.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. Ms. Saturn is actually on her way here. She just missed the doll invasion.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Ms. Saturn was coming for it. Her ship was late. But no, they said breaking news. There was a.

[Julio Torres]

They said breaking news.

[Matt Rogers]

They said. Wait, what's the breaking news?

[Bowen Yang]

They go, breaking news.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I wish I had pulled it up, but I didn't know we were getting here in the conversation. I should have known, though. They were just like. It's like a clip that they keep showing of like what is clearly like a small bird running past, like a security, like, and it was just this woman being like, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it could be. I just know that I can't stop thinking about it. It's like it's a bird. They're like alien life spotted. I'm like, it's a bird with like, it's. You know, it has that plumage in the back.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That when they get excited.

[Matt Rogers]

Or it's a little roadrunner, maybe.

[Bowen Yang]

Sort of like that. I felt that way.

[Julio Torres]

So cute.

[Bowen Yang]

So suffice it to say, unless you have any knowledge that, you know, we don't know that there's intelligent life and I lied. Miss Saturn isn't on her way. We don't know that she exists.

[Julio Torres]

We don't know that she exists. You know what I think we should do? I think other cities in the west do this thing. Certainly Vancouver does it, because I did this. I attended a, like a kind of a competitive sort of like drag competition where different establishments and businesses along the gay street in Vancouver submit a person to do, like, a drag number. I think it should be a beauty pageant of, like, New York bars. Of a queer New York bar. Like animals.

[Matt Rogers]

Where, like, they're representing the different New York bars.

[Julio Torres]

Yes. And there should be, like, a beauty pageant in that regard.

[Matt Rogers]

The eagle.

[Julio Torres]

Yes. Yes. Don't you think that could be really fun?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

The eagle, Animal. Exley, whatever. Phoenix. Like, they all. They all Phoenix.

[Matt Rogers]

Phoenix.

[Bowen Yang]

Ms. Exley. Ms. Exley. Phoenix.

[Julio Torres]

There's.

[Bowen Yang]

They all qualify. It's a 17 year old. They all qualify. Yes.

[Julio Torres]

It doesn't matter. We need to see all of them. They all must compete.

[Matt Rogers]

I love that. They all must. They don't have a choice.

[Bowen Yang]

They don't compete. It's you do this or closure. That's a Zoran event.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, my God. That's a Zoran event for sure.

[Matt Rogers]

Before the audition.

[Julio Torres]

Wait, we have to do this. We have to. I'm telling you, the way he would.

[Matt Rogers]

Smile so politely at that idea, I.

[Bowen Yang]

Think he'd be into it.

[Julio Torres]

He'd be into it.

[Bowen Yang]

You know, someone tagged me in a photo of Zoran with his arm around someone in a Lil Bro jersey. My merch. And I was like, you know, the.

[Julio Torres]

Little bros get it.

[Bowen Yang]

The little bros get it. And I think the big bros get it.

[Julio Torres]

I think the big bros get it, too.

[Bowen Yang]

Anyone with a Lil Bro or Big Bro jersey, that's a Zha' Ron voter. And that's actually roller culture number 20. Anyone with a Lil Bro or Big Bro jersey, that's a Zoron voter.

[Matt Rogers]

The Lil Bro, that's your. That's your base. That's your. Your.

[Bowen Yang]

I speak to lil bros and big bros equally. I would say. I think that anyone can sort of choose what their vibe is. But Lil Bro is sort of something when you want to be treated in a way that would suggest maybe you want a big bro.

[Julio Torres]

You want to be diminutive in the face of big bro.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, you're kind of big bro.

[Julio Torres]

You're Big Bro. Julio's very big bro.

[Bowen Yang]

Aren't you?

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Aren'T you?

[Bowen Yang]

Aren't you? He gets up and leaves. He's like, I always hated doing this.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, you keep fucking begging me.

[Bowen Yang]

Stop inviting me, begging me to do this.

[Matt Rogers]

Your fucking little show. It's like. And now they have this office. Oh, my God. They keep begging, begging.

[Bowen Yang]

And I do it. Cause I feel sorry.

[Julio Torres]

I miss the headphones. I miss the days when they had.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait. I do feel naked in the headphones. But what I was gonna say, beauty pageant adjacent, is I realizing that I am sort of making this true. Cause I am doing the Halloween party again.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yes. Fun.

[Matt Rogers]

And I want to lean in to the costume contest.

[Julio Torres]

Yes, you should.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

You are our new Heidi Klum.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes, yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Heidi. We have a new one now. Auf Wiedesign.

[Matt Rogers]

Here's a name for the party. Okay. Okay. So last year it was the cursed amulet, right?

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, of course.

[Matt Rogers]

Everyone remembers it was the.

[Julio Torres]

I do. That was the party.

[Matt Rogers]

And everyone smiles. Cursed amulet.

[Bowen Yang]

Cursed amulet.

[Julio Torres]

That's perfect. I met them at cursed amulet.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you announcing this or are you brainstorming or do you already know?

[Matt Rogers]

I am announcing workshopping.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Julio Torres]

Very Taylor Swift. Very Taylor Swift announcing.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Yeah. I love announcing the name. Mommy's moods.

[Bowen Yang]

Mommy's moods.

[Julio Torres]

Really good.

[Bowen Yang]

I love that you can get so many.

[Matt Rogers]

I think we're gonna have swings.

[Julio Torres]

What kind of swings? Oh, mood swings.

[Bowen Yang]

I love that you understand.

[Julio Torres]

I do.

[Matt Rogers]

Mommy's moods, but. Okay, so in just like that font, Mommy's moods. The next chapter in the cursed amulet story.

[Bowen Yang]

I really like that. There's so many ways to go.

[Julio Torres]

How is the amulet connected to Mommy?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, I think that the amulet is. Is responsible for Mommy's mood.

[Bowen Yang]

I was gonna say Mommy wears the amulet and gets in a mood.

[Matt Rogers]

It takes over.

[Bowen Yang]

Or it's just one person wearing the amulet and there's a. As a result of being in the atmosphere of that person, everyone gets in a certain way.

[Matt Rogers]

Everyone enters Mommy's moods. Yeah, I think that's it. I think it's like Mommy's moods is like a realm.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Julio Torres]

I like any time there's inside out.

[Matt Rogers]

For someone that has. Should be medicated.

[Bowen Yang]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Julio Torres]

They'll never explore that.

[Bowen Yang]

I think that they will.

[Matt Rogers]

They wouldn't.

[Julio Torres]

They're cowards.

[Bowen Yang]

They're cowards.

[Matt Rogers]

They will never explore Mommy's moods. They will never.

[Bowen Yang]

In the inside out cinematic universe, they actually. Well, I actually think that is a Disney Pixar that you would like.

[Matt Rogers]

Mommy's moods.

[Bowen Yang]

No, Inside out two.

[Matt Rogers]

Inside out two.

[Bowen Yang]

They went further than I thought they would.

[Julio Torres]

They went for it.

[Bowen Yang]

They really got into anxiety in a way where I was like, huh? And my therapist actually was like, you should see this. And I was like, I already did, and I loved it. So Inside out three.

[Julio Torres]

Mommy.

[Matt Rogers]

Mommy's moods.

[Julio Torres]

Okay, so there's mood swings. There should be like a. I don't know what this is yet, but like a not right now moment. You know, it's like that meme of like, not right now. Mommy's blank. Mommy, not right now.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

You know What?

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, Mommy's feeling distant. Mommy's feeling complacent. Mommy's feeling insecure today.

[Matt Rogers]

Or like, you have to come do this right now.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Mommy's feeling impatient. Mommy's feeling overwhelmed.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, here is the okay. Actually, this will be very productive. I have two options. Wednesday the 29th.

[Julio Torres]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Thursday the 30th.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, God, let's see.

[Julio Torres]

We might have to be out of town.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, wait, but you're just very sad. But like, what do you think about this date? We're not in general.

[Bowen Yang]

We're out of town.

[Julio Torres]

I like a Wednesday. I like a Wednesday Halloween party. Thursday has a little bit too much. Thursday has a little too much stakes on.

[Matt Rogers]

You're making faces.

[Bowen Yang]

I feel like Thursday's 30th.

[Julio Torres]

Fine, fine. I just, I think if anyone can like really program something on Halloween week in a way that's interesting. Like, people need the tent polls and you could be the Wednesday tentpole. But I also. Thursday is a guaranteed success.

[Bowen Yang]

Thursday. Here's what you get if you do it on Thursday the 30th. When the clock strikes midnight, it's Halloween, it's Hollows Eve.

[Julio Torres]

And Mommy's mood.

[Matt Rogers]

And Mommy's mood.

[Julio Torres]

Mommy's mood turns at midnight.

[Bowen Yang]

Mommy's mood turns at midnight. And then like all of a sudden it gets like happy.

[Julio Torres]

Happy.

[Bowen Yang]

We turn all the lights on. We start all sitting down. That's when we owe the pizza conversation.

[Julio Torres]

That's so nice.

[Bowen Yang]

Mommy, will you.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, at midnight, Mommy's mood will turn, but you don't know what it is. And we keep announcing. And in five minutes, Mommy's mood will turn. I love it. I love it. And then we announce, Mommy is now happy.

[Bowen Yang]

No one will know. Mommy just got angry. And you get so. I think what should happen is at 11:58 you should take the stage and you've written a two minute story. And when the clock strikes midnight, that's when you reveal how mommy feels about what happened. And the whole thing changes. And it's sort of like, yeah, off to kind of like. And everyone should have a reveal.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Bring a reveal. I'm not saying bring a costume. I'm saying bring a costume under the other costume.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Hello.

[Matt Rogers]

Listen to your head.

[Julio Torres]

I don't wanna explain this again.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't want to explain this again. And the reveal can't be that you're wearing a cloak over the costume.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no.

[Matt Rogers]

It has to be.

[Bowen Yang]

You'll be in the bottom two for sure.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And there is a lip sync. At 4am Someone will be asked to leave.

[Matt Rogers]

There is a mandatory lip sync at.

[Bowen Yang]

4 in the morning with the two people who floss.

[Matt Rogers]

We're paying for everyone's Uber back home. Okay. Okay. Jake, get over it. 700 Ubers back home.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, I'm excited about all this.

[Julio Torres]

I'm very excited. Okay, do it the 30th and.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, do it the 30th. Okay. Even though. Okay, we can bleep out the venues, but the venue, the 29th is better than the one.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, okay.

[Julio Torres]

And can you get more. Bleed about the venues? What are the venues?

[Matt Rogers]

Thursday. Because you can move about with more ease.

[Bowen Yang]

And it's, like, so important to be able to move.

[Matt Rogers]

And I'm thinking on Halloween, you're wearing big things and the thought of going into a dance floor and not being able to escape it. Use bathrooms. There's the bathroom situation. It's pretty bad.

[Julio Torres]

I don't think I've been.

[Matt Rogers]

But it's really. That's her thing. But everyone was in, what, Tank tops.

[Julio Torres]

Tank tops.

[Bowen Yang]

Right. Of course.

[Julio Torres]

And it was not Halloween.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

I mean, last year, who won the costume contest? The cop?

[Matt Rogers]

The roach. Oh, that was with honorable mention to continuous.

[Julio Torres]

Well, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, who was the roach?

[Matt Rogers]

We don't know.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

It was kind of chic how, like, no one. There are figures who just disappear. Like Demon Twink. I mean, kind of maybe just got like, cyberbullied off the face of the earth.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, was Demon Twink an actual person?

[Julio Torres]

Yes. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

We were there on the boat when that happened.

[Bowen Yang]

Demon Twink was going off on a boat. Can you give the story? Because not everyone might know.

[Julio Torres]

So Demon Twink. The words Demon Twink came to be has an origin on a Ty Sunderland boat, the Brittany boat, where there was a twink at the very top of the boat on the top railing.

[Matt Rogers]

What do you mean, at the top of the boat? So there's different levels of, like, on the flag.

[Julio Torres]

Not on the flag.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no.

[Julio Torres]

He was not, like, mounting. He was not mounting on the beat. He was like. He was very like Kate Winslet and Titanic. Just like on, like, kind of like.

[Matt Rogers]

Just like perched.

[Julio Torres]

Perched over, like, looking out at everybody and we could all see him and he was.

[Matt Rogers]

It was his boat.

[Bowen Yang]

He was going off.

[Julio Torres]

He was going off.

[Bowen Yang]

Basically, he was the star of the boat.

[Julio Torres]

He was the star of the boat. Just dancing. Dancing.

[Matt Rogers]

But what made Endemonic.

[Julio Torres]

Well, he was at.

[Matt Rogers]

Not Christian.

[Julio Torres]

Not Christian. He was so fucked up that he at one point made it to the DJ booth where Tai was and Threw his drink on the board, on the equipment and was just acting out. And then Ty said, why was he upset? We don't know. He was fucked up. And then. So then Ty tweets something along the lines of like, oh, my God, not this demon twin.

[Matt Rogers]

So he coined demon twins.

[Julio Torres]

He coined demon twins.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Julio Torres]

So. And that is sort of like. It's sort of entered the lexicon in a very seamless way.

[Matt Rogers]

What was the outfit?

[Julio Torres]

It's like a black.

[Matt Rogers]

Black tank top.

[Bowen Yang]

And then I think some sort of.

[Julio Torres]

Suggestive bottom, which she might have been the suggested bottom.

[Bowen Yang]

I think the suggestion was very clear.

[Matt Rogers]

The suggestion was very clear. Yeah. Who wants to take this home? Well.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, that person. There's other examples.

[Julio Torres]

I was talking about this with friends lately. Like, that person. Cockroach at cursed amulet. Like, there are people. The person who was in the mask during Wendy Williams Halloween episode of what was Living Legends.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Oh, you're thinking like anonymous New York.

[Julio Torres]

Well, anonymous people who are icons, but they don't wanna make themselves known as those people.

[Matt Rogers]

These are. They're ripe for Batman villains.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

The fan who cried sharp.

[Matt Rogers]

The fag who cried. No, no, no.

[Julio Torres]

The fag who cried shark made himself known.

[Bowen Yang]

The fag who cried shark. Didn't have to do that, though. There was a fag who cried shark when we were on Fire Island. It's a long. He didn't love that we talked about it on the other episode.

[Julio Torres]

He didn't love that we talked about it.

[Bowen Yang]

You can go back to the episode the Fag who Cried Shark and hear all about it.

[Julio Torres]

And he's a wonderful, wonderful resident of the town.

[Bowen Yang]

Great member of the community.

[Julio Torres]

Great member of the community. And we were. We did not. We did not do right by him.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I don't think it was that big of a deal because it's not like the fag who cried shark was known worldwide. We talked about it on this podcast because 15 people saw something happen on a beach.

[Matt Rogers]

Was it a. Was there a shark?

[Julio Torres]

There was a shark.

[Bowen Yang]

There was a. There was. Well, first, there was allegedly a shark. And he was like, shark, shark, shark.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And it was sort of like he was nude and swanging. And so it was like. Okay, it was just a funny image.

[Julio Torres]

It was funny, like this naked guy, dick, massive cock, swinging around, yelling at every. Screaming at everybody, shark, shark.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. And there was no shark to be seen. And then later it was confirmed.

[Julio Torres]

It was confirmed.

[Matt Rogers]

So who's laughing now?

[Bowen Yang]

So it goes off. The boy who cried wolf. He should be completely validated.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I get it.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, oh, I see.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like you have to believe the fat who cried shark.

[Julio Torres]

Yes, you have to believe.

[Matt Rogers]

So is he a known liar? Is that why people didn't believe him?

[Bowen Yang]

He was a known like truth teller.

[Julio Torres]

Honestly, he's a seer. You would call him a seer.

[Bowen Yang]

I would call him a seer.

[Matt Rogers]

A seer.

[Bowen Yang]

One who sees.

[Julio Torres]

One who sees.

[Matt Rogers]

You know, a seer. One who sees.

[Julio Torres]

One who sees. Hey everyone. We know many of you probably have a watch list with all the streaming shows you want to see. Well, if you haven't seen Platonic on Apple tv, you need to add it to yours now. It's hilarious. Seth Rogen and Rose Byrne play a pair of platonic besties like Matt and I who are as likely to cause trouble for each other as they are to support each other.

[Bowen Yang]

If you have seen it, you already know that. But you might not know that. Season two of Platonic is out now.

[Julio Torres]

This season, Rogen and Byrne deal with uncomfortably hilarious midlife hurdles, including new business ventures, weddings and partners in crises. And as best friends do, they try to help each other but sometimes just make things worse. These two are just so funny together.

[Bowen Yang]

Love them. Luke McFarlane and Carla Gallo are so back this season alongside new guest stars, including some seriously funny SNL alums, A.D. bryant, Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett, and the fabulous Milo Manheim.

[Julio Torres]

If you haven't seen season one, catch up immediately. And if you have. Second season of Platonic is now streaming on Apple tv. Plus, don't miss it.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touch screen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Julio Torres]

I love being able to touch my buds and control the volume. Feels amazing on the skin with a.

[Bowen Yang]

Built in wireless transmitter that lets you plug and play with any device you want. The JBL Tour 3 connects you to all your favorite music movies.

[Julio Torres]

The wireless transmitter also allows for JBL superior spatial sound that takes any audio and turns it into a 360 immersive experience.

[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages right from the case.

[Julio Torres]

Use the bigger, clear 1.57-inch touchscreen to see what song is playing or who's calling you, or personalize the tactile screen with your favorite photo.

[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen to get get info on battery life, status, time, messages, et cetera.

[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

Now Mommy's mood sounds wonderful. I still, I honestly think, gosh, there's just not enough time to plan this but there should be a a bar. A queer bar pass.

[Bowen Yang]

I think that there might be.

[Matt Rogers]

Why do you mean there's not Enough time to plan it until November.

[Julio Torres]

Like, if it is a Zoran event.

[Matt Rogers]

No, because it's a.

[Bowen Yang]

Because, Right. It's a Zoron thing.

[Julio Torres]

I really want to campaign on that.

[Bowen Yang]

I think we can do it. Also, by the way, the way, this is going to bring community back to New York. Hello.

[Julio Torres]

He did a scavenger hunt the other day. I know who did? Zoran.

[Matt Rogers]

A scavenger hunt.

[Julio Torres]

It was riddles. He was leaving riddles on social media and, I mean, packs. Hordes of people would show up.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, this is what I don't want to see him do. Okay. I do not that day. I do not want to see him do the thing. No, that's fine. The thing with the headphones where they're dancing on the street.

[Julio Torres]

Silent rave. No, he's not gonna do that.

[Matt Rogers]

Please don't do that.

[Bowen Yang]

I think he might.

[Matt Rogers]

Please don't do that. Please don't do that.

[Julio Torres]

There's something about a scavenger hunt that's fun and not bound to time the way that a silent rave is always gonna be like millennial. Like 2006 Union Square. You know what I mean?

[Bowen Yang]

I know.

[Matt Rogers]

Scavenger hunt. Hunt is timeless.

[Julio Torres]

I think so, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Scavenger got me in trouble in high school because, you know, it was on the list, go buy condoms.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, brother.

[Bowen Yang]

That was like the most taboo thing in high school, right? Like, it's like, go buy condoms and bring it back. So then you go into the Duane Reade and you're like, I'm buying condoms.

[Matt Rogers]

And buying condoms illegal.

[Bowen Yang]

No, it was just more like teen going into a Duane Reade, going over to the condoms, picking one out, giving it to the person. It's like, I still feel like this when I'm buying, like. Like a. Like a douche. You know what I mean? What do you call it?

[Julio Torres]

A douchebag.

[Bowen Yang]

An enema.

[Julio Torres]

An enema.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what I mean?

[Bowen Yang]

I'm like, well, here I am, like, looking as gay as I do, buying douches, but I feel self conscious buying them sometimes in a way. Like when I remember being a teen and doing a scavenger hunt with my friends, it was always like, go by Magnum Xls.

[Matt Rogers]

Right?

[Julio Torres]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

And then I one time did. Can't remember if we won or lost. Ultimately unimportant. My mother found them.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh.

[Bowen Yang]

And I don't know what she thought about me buying Magnums, but certainly she didn't. Her mind didn't go to, oh, there must have been a scavenger hunt. Her mind went to my son must have A scavenger.

[Matt Rogers]

Must have been a scavenger. I know my Matt. That Joanne is not your mom at all.

[Bowen Yang]

No, it kind of is. Kind of. It's not really. No, it wasn't bad.

[Julio Torres]

Do your impression of Matt's mom. I bet you wouldn't be that far off.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you met her?

[Matt Rogers]

I have met her. She doesn't seem like. Like a withering flower at all. No. And that's sort of what I was doing.

[Bowen Yang]

Do the impression you think my mom is, and then I'll do a perfect impression of my mom.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, okay. My mind went to this person who is not your mom, which is like, there must have been a scavenger hunt.

[Bowen Yang]

He would never.

[Matt Rogers]

He would never.

[Julio Torres]

Okay, so that's not.

[Matt Rogers]

That's not her.

[Julio Torres]

But it's not super far off. Cause it's more like you're gonna do it.

[Bowen Yang]

You do it.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, I thought.

[Bowen Yang]

Hold on, hold on.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, I guess there was a scavenger hunt. Okay, so it's joke.

[Bowen Yang]

This is it. That was closer. This is it. Well, there must have been a scavenger hunt or something. Well, you know, they have fun, the kids. They do a scavenger hunt. Sometimes it gets a little silly. It's not for me, but, you know, I guess my son has a big dick. I guess he's got a big old cock. Well. Well, you know, it's all right. That's my mom.

[Matt Rogers]

Is that generally her attitude?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Are things generally all right, like, cheerful?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah. I would say things are generally all right. And what she does when she thinks something is not all right is famously, she goes.

[Matt Rogers]

So did you get a.

[Julio Torres]

Ariana Grande's favorite vocal tech? Cause I told her about on the set of Wicked. Told her about this thing that Matt's mom did.

[Matt Rogers]

The Marsh Simpson.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, the Marge Simpson thing. What about mar.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, sometimes when I can't fall asleep.

[Bowen Yang]

What do you do?

[Matt Rogers]

Sometimes when I can't fall asleep, I close my eyes.

[Bowen Yang]

What do you do?

[Matt Rogers]

And I rank what I believe are the most famous dresses in history.

[Bowen Yang]

Is Marge's dress always up there?

[Matt Rogers]

I realize that Marge's dress.

[Julio Torres]

Green column.

[Matt Rogers]

Green column.

[Bowen Yang]

Green column.

[Matt Rogers]

Is maybe number three. What? How can I give you.

[Bowen Yang]

We talked about this on the show. We said, what's the most famous dress?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, you have?

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, we said it was Cinderella's dress.

[Julio Torres]

Cinderella is number one.

[Matt Rogers]

Sorry. No, no, no.

[Julio Torres]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, no, no. You probably just had just seen, like, merch or something. No.

[Bowen Yang]

Merch.

[Matt Rogers]

No Cinderella merch. Cinderella merch. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Undeniable at number one, Marilyn Monroe's white dress.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

The JFK dress above the. Oh, the JFK dress above the van.

[Matt Rogers]

The subway gray. Oh, the subway gray.

[Bowen Yang]

Or was that Jennifer Gentleman for one of those.

[Julio Torres]

That sound like an out German for blondes. Is the pink.

[Matt Rogers]

Is the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that Madonna. Yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

No, the white dress, I think is number one. Number two. And at number two, the dress, the black and gold. Yeah. If you Google image the dress, that's what comes up. That's what comes up.

[Julio Torres]

Well, no, that was. I remember I was with Matt that night. Do you remember where you were that night? No, it was at night. It happened at night.

[Matt Rogers]

It happened at night. The dress came at night. And we came at. Tonight.

[Julio Torres]

The dress came in. We were right here.

[Bowen Yang]

We were across from iheartradio.

[Julio Torres]

No, we were across from Carnegie Hall. We're in midtown.

[Bowen Yang]

And we were at a deli across.

[Matt Rogers]

From Carnegie hall when cap started honking. The dress.

[Julio Torres]

You need to remember. Do you remember where you were? This was a huge moment.

[Bowen Yang]

You need to remember.

[Julio Torres]

You need to remember.

[Bowen Yang]

You need to remember because we saw the same thing. Black and blue.

[Julio Torres]

No, we were.

[Bowen Yang]

We didn't see the same thing.

[Julio Torres]

We did not see. You saw white and gold.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I saw black and blue.

[Julio Torres]

Okay. So now I saw black. I've always thought it was black and blue.

[Bowen Yang]

It was black and blue. I think we were on the same page.

[Julio Torres]

No, people said it was white and gold.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, no. Okay, so we, we, you and I were on the same page.

[Matt Rogers]

A united front.

[Bowen Yang]

And we were like, what are they all talking about? And then everyone started being like, it's white and gold. And we were like, uh huh. Like it sort of. It's. That's when it became Twilight Zone.

[Julio Torres]

Was it. Do you think reality like split like forked at that moment? Just, just, just in terms of like.

[Bowen Yang]

Is that when reality forked?

[Matt Rogers]

Is that what reality forked? Well, for these reasons, this is number two.

[Julio Torres]

And number three is March Simpson.

[Matt Rogers]

And I think number three is Marge Simpsons. I do have to say green dress.

[Bowen Yang]

Rule of culture number 15 is the dress is when reality forks.

[Julio Torres]

Yes, for sure.

[Bowen Yang]

I just had to make sure that was known.

[Julio Torres]

Of course.

[Matt Rogers]

Bjork Swan dress.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, J. Lo Versace dress.

[Bowen Yang]

I would say that's higher than Marge's dress.

[Matt Rogers]

You think? Which one?

[Bowen Yang]

J. Lo versa. It started. Google images.

[Julio Torres]

You have to give. It did.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Okay.

[Julio Torres]

I want to put a dress out there.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Julio Torres]

Rose Der's dress in Titanic.

[Bowen Yang]

The one. The one that she's wearing. During the whole climate.

[Matt Rogers]

Of course you're think. No, it's top 10.

[Julio Torres]

It's top 10.

[Matt Rogers]

That is definitely like top four hats.

[Julio Torres]

I'm not talking about the hat. I'm not. We've nominated him at the Culture Awards.

[Matt Rogers]

We weren't even talking about this.

[Bowen Yang]

And so to start a conversation about hats. That's wrong. That's wrong because we weren't talking about that.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm sorry to be so strong.

[Matt Rogers]

So you think, you think you're thinking about the sort of like midnight blue with the.

[Julio Torres]

No, it was like the deep red with the beading. The black beading.

[Matt Rogers]

Is that the one where she's. Where he drowns and he's.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. She was ultimately wearing that.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, yeah, that's the same dress.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. She's wearing it the entire.

[Matt Rogers]

It's iffy. I don't think this.

[Julio Torres]

Okay, fine, fine, fine.

[Matt Rogers]

I think you're thinking about the character. You're thinking about the general costuming. You're not thinking about the.

[Bowen Yang]

We might just be like ultra titanic gaze. And so it might be for.

[Matt Rogers]

If you like, if you can you draw that dress?

[Bowen Yang]

I think I could.

[Matt Rogers]

Really?

[Julio Torres]

Oh, that's a criteria. And you have to draw the dress.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Prove that it's so famous, that it's so engraved in your mind. Draw, draw it.

[Bowen Yang]

Draw, draw it.

[Matt Rogers]

Marge Simpson. Anyone can do it.

[Bowen Yang]

You're so. It's so memorable.

[Matt Rogers]

Silhouette.

[Bowen Yang]

Now I'm trying to think. Are we missing anything here?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, so many. I do think the Belle, Beauty and the Beast. Oh, the yellow, like heinous, like quinceanera in yellow.

[Julio Torres]

Heinous quinceanera in yellow.

[Matt Rogers]

Lady Diana's revenge dress.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, absolutely. Who could forget?

[Julio Torres]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Lefrity. Diana.

[Matt Rogers]

I love Lady Diana. Lady Diana. She was a lady. She was.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. And then I guess there's like, I think.

[Matt Rogers]

I think honorable mentions to like, Rihanna. Yellow metal. Met Gala. Chinese.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I do think that you have to give Marilyn probably a second one, which was the JFK happy birthday dress, because then it did appear decades later on Kim Kardashian at the Met Gala. So clearly there was. There was, there was run it back value on that dress.

[Matt Rogers]

The dress that returned.

[Bowen Yang]

The dress that returned and was famously tailored came back. That's a good horror film.

[Matt Rogers]

The dress that came back.

[Bowen Yang]

I haven't worn my wedding dress in decades, but now my daughter is getting married. Let's go up to the attic. They get there, the dress is alive and doesn't want to be worn by the daughter.

[Matt Rogers]

I think. Wait, that's Beautiful. That's beautiful. Intergenerational expectations, and it's ultimately a film about legacy. The debut film, Matt Rogers.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I think that might be really good. That I would write, and I think you would direct it. Bowen is, of course, the star. He plays the dress.

[Julio Torres]

I want to be the dress.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. And are we talking, like, face superimposed in the chest of the dress or just voice?

[Bowen Yang]

It's motion capture.

[Matt Rogers]

It's motion capture. Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

You don't find the voice until now.

[Matt Rogers]

You know, they're going to push for Andy Serkis.

[Bowen Yang]

He has enough, I feel.

[Matt Rogers]

But can he play a dress?

[Julio Torres]

I have to go.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I have to go. Hold on.

[Julio Torres]

I have to leave.

[Matt Rogers]

I have to go.

[Bowen Yang]

Because he wants to go start writing the script.

[Matt Rogers]

He thinks it's so good.

[Julio Torres]

Julio and I had a movie idea that, honestly, I think Matt would be the star of.

[Matt Rogers]

What was it?

[Julio Torres]

It was. Hold on. I'm gonna look it up. I'm gonna look it up.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm looking over their shoulder at the notes. Dumb gay fag is killed in first minute of film.

[Julio Torres]

It's like. It's about a guy.

[Matt Rogers]

It's about a guy.

[Julio Torres]

It's about.

[Bowen Yang]

I love this idea already. I can see it now.

[Julio Torres]

We should write a movie about him called Bla. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh. Oh, yes.

[Julio Torres]

He is going to the first summit. He is at the out and Equal summit at Disney, and his flights keep getting canceled. He just wants to get to the summit.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Is it called the summit?

[Julio Torres]

It can be called. That could be it. The credentials.

[Matt Rogers]

The credentials. The lanyards. The lanyard.

[Bowen Yang]

The credentials.

[Julio Torres]

I think Matt has shonda rhinestones.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

The credentials.

[Bowen Yang]

Good.

[Julio Torres]

I think Matt needs to. I think we're gonna write a Matt Rogers vehicle.

[Bowen Yang]

That would be wonderful, guys. Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

That'd be really great.

[Bowen Yang]

That would be wonderful just to have you guys just get together and create, you know, I feel like I'm like a. Like a. Like a big actress that you're meeting at a production company, and it's like, yes. I'm so excited because I just love your mind. You know what I mean? I just so excited, like, by your creativity and, like, I just feel like.

[Matt Rogers]

How do you come up with this?

[Bowen Yang]

So I just never know where it's going. And that's what I love, is to be surprised. Like, I'm looking for creative voices.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah. This is what Emma Stone said to you when you guys first met?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah, the creative voices spiel.

[Bowen Yang]

She said that. She said, I'm looking for creative voices.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah. Fresh talent. Fresh talent.

[Bowen Yang]

I Want fresh, creative voices, talent.

[Julio Torres]

I miss when we took general, you know, now we don't get generals anymore.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, you mean, like. You mean, like commuting to, like, commuting tbs.

[Julio Torres]

Tbs and hearing about mandates.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, hearing about mandates.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, our mandate is as long as.

[Julio Torres]

It'S fresh and creative and new talent.

[Matt Rogers]

We'Re looking for fresh, new voices.

[Bowen Yang]

I was so good at generals.

[Julio Torres]

I was.

[Matt Rogers]

I bet you were.

[Julio Torres]

I bet you were.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I was.

[Matt Rogers]

I bet you were.

[Bowen Yang]

It is hard to hear, even though.

[Julio Torres]

It'S a compliment, telling your audience it's a huge compliment.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a huge compliment. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I was always good at them, and I was always at them for too long.

[Julio Torres]

No, that's how you know it was going well.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah. Did anything come out of them?

[Bowen Yang]

I think maybe years later in a way that I wouldn't remember because I did.

[Julio Torres]

That's the point.

[Bowen Yang]

I did the thing of, like, I hit LA so hard when I first got there and took every general, so I sure didn't remember. Like, I was just like, I left being Remember names.

[Matt Rogers]

No, of course not.

[Bowen Yang]

No. It's so hard.

[Julio Torres]

So generals for. For people who might not be in the know, is general meeting. You would just take at every single.

[Matt Rogers]

It is crazy because no other industry.

[Julio Torres]

Does this where it's like a go see kind of. It's kind of like a.

[Bowen Yang]

It kind of is like a go see.

[Matt Rogers]

It kind of is like a go see.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

You just like, stop it. And you're like, this is my deal. Like, it's a get to know you.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

And then as you said, the point is so that eight years later, they can be like, you know, who'd be good for this is Matt.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Julio Torres]

You know, and it does yield fruit. It does bear.

[Bowen Yang]

I think it yielded some fruit.

[Matt Rogers]

Great.

[Julio Torres]

I love that.

[Bowen Yang]

Who knows?

[Julio Torres]

Hey, everyone. We know many of you probably have a watch list with all the streaming shows you want to see. Well, if you haven't seen Platonic on Apple tv, you need to add it to yours now. It's hilarious. Seth Rogen and Rose Byrne play a pair of platonic besties like Matt and I who are as likely to cause trouble for each other as they are to support each other.

[Bowen Yang]

If you have seen it, you already know that, but you might not know that Season two of Platonic is out now.

[Julio Torres]

This season, Rogen and Byrne deal with uncomfortably hilarious midlife hurdles, including new business ventures, weddings, and partners in crises. And as best friends do, they try to help each other, but sometimes just make things worse. These two are just just so funny together.

[Bowen Yang]

Love them. Luke McFarlane and Carla Gallo are so back this season alongside new guest stars including some seriously Funny SNL alums, A.D. bryant, Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett and the fabulous Milo Manheim.

[Julio Torres]

If you haven't seen season one, catch up immediately. And if you have second season of Platonic is now streaming on Apple tv. Plus don't miss it.

[Bowen Yang]

The Hyundai Getaway Sales Event is going on now. Every now and then you score a deal that's almost too good to be true. Like you feel like you're getting away with something you shouldn't. Well, now is the perfect time. Buy the car or SUV you've always wanted at the Hyundai Getaway Sales event. So get down to your local Hyundai dealer and get away with huge savings. Scored a great deal on Hyundai's award winning SUVs like Kona, Tucson, Santa Fe and Palisade. The technology packed Elantra and their most advanced Sonata yet and the all electric Ionic 5 and Ionic 6. But getting away with massive savings is just the beginning because every Hyundai is backed by America's Best Warranty and Hyundai Complimentary Maintenance Maintenance Every new Hyundai comes with America's best warranty. With an industry leading ten year for a hundred thousand mile powertrain limited warranty, it's nice to know that a peace of mind comes standard. And there's also three years of 36, 000 miles of limited complimentary maintenance on all new 2025 models. These are just a few of the many ways Hyundai has your back after you drive off the dealership lot. Visit HyundaiUSA.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details. Offers end 9-2-2025 JBL Tour Pro 3.

[Julio Torres]

Earbuds are for those who are the first to try something unique.

[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Julio Torres]

I love being able to touch my buds and control the volume. Feels amazing on the skin.

[Bowen Yang]

With a built in wireless transmitter that lets you plug and play with any device you want. The JBL Tour 3 connects you to all your favorite music, movies, movies and games.

[Julio Torres]

The wireless transmitter also allows for JBL's superior spatial sound that takes any audio and turns it into a 360 immersive experience.

[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully Control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages. Right from the case.

[Julio Torres]

Use the bigger, clear 1.57-inch touchscreen to see what song is playing or who's calling you. Or personalize the tactile screen with your favorite photo.

[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen too to get info on battery life, status, time, messages, et cetera.

[Julio Torres]

First doesn't follow. Grab a [e-mail] you know that feeling.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Matt Rogers]

Ugh.

[Julio Torres]

Just a little more clarity. When you click add to cart, Klarna is your smarter everyday spending partner. Download the Klarna app or learn [e-mail].

[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

I think we should plan the pageant. That's all I'm saying.

[Bowen Yang]

I think that we.

[Matt Rogers]

I think we should plan the pageant.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I think probably Miss.

[Matt Rogers]

You know, Miss Animal is coming in hot.

[Julio Torres]

Miss Animal is gonna be.

[Bowen Yang]

Miss Animal's gonna be too much. Miss Animal's gonna do too much drugs beforehand and barely make it down the Runway. And you know what I'm talking about. It's okay to say it's okay.

[Matt Rogers]

It's okay to say Ms.

[Julio Torres]

Animal's gonna show off like the ketamine shelf in the bathroom.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

And yeah, I mean, it really does show.

[Matt Rogers]

Ms. Macri.

[Julio Torres]

Ms. Macri.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm rooting for her. She's so multiple.

[Matt Rogers]

He's so wholesome.

[Bowen Yang]

Ms. MacRae park actually really works.

[Julio Torres]

Sounds really nice.

[Bowen Yang]

By the way. You know, last week we were talking about a potential drag name that I came up with and then all the readers descended into the comments and they were like, you were right there. I thought. Polarizing. Ms. Paula Rising. Polarizing.

[Matt Rogers]

Paula Rising. Paula Rising. It kind of feels like tripping a little bit. Paula Rising. Like you polarized.

[Julio Torres]

It feels like tripping.

[Bowen Yang]

Polarized. Polarizing.

[Matt Rogers]

Phonetically. I don't know that I'm.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't know. What's a thing. Polarizing. She's polarizing.

[Matt Rogers]

It feels like a false start or something.

[Bowen Yang]

My sister laughed.

[Matt Rogers]

I left the room.

[Julio Torres]

I think. I think it's laughed or left Laughed.

[Bowen Yang]

Laughed.

[Julio Torres]

Cut around that.

[Bowen Yang]

No, it's okay to not know the word all the time.

[Julio Torres]

I have some things to throw at.

[Matt Rogers]

Miss the Cock.

[Julio Torres]

What's that?

[Matt Rogers]

Miss the Cock.

[Bowen Yang]

Miss the Cock. Miss the Eagle.

[Julio Torres]

Miss Miss Therapy. Therapy. No. All right.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, shit. Sorry.

[Matt Rogers]

Sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

Miss Industry.

[Julio Torres]

Miss. Do they still have boxers?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I think Miss Boxers for sure.

[Julio Torres]

Miss Boxers.

[Bowen Yang]

Miss Barracuda would have been so amazing.

[Julio Torres]

Aw, hate that.

[Matt Rogers]

Is Miss Clubcoming? No. Cause that's not a proper.

[Julio Torres]

I think Miss Clubco.

[Bowen Yang]

I think Miss Clubcoming works.

[Julio Torres]

I think Miss Clubcoming works for sure.

[Bowen Yang]

That's certainly a queer bar. You know, I went there one time, and it was a knitting night. I actually went with a guy who was a friend, but I guess there was some messing around, and we went to lesbian knitting night.

[Julio Torres]

That's cute.

[Bowen Yang]

It actually was cute.

[Julio Torres]

That's really nice.

[Bowen Yang]

It was lesbian craft night.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, beautiful.

[Julio Torres]

Beautiful.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

I think there should be. I think there should be a Miss Club coming. I think there should be, like, a Miss Elsewhere. No, but that's just a venue.

[Matt Rogers]

No, that's a venue.

[Julio Torres]

Okay, fine.

[Matt Rogers]

That's a venue.

[Bowen Yang]

Hard and fast. No, it's a.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I had something else on the.

[Bowen Yang]

Tip of my head. It takes place at Elsewhere. How about that?

[Julio Torres]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

Javit Center. No. Javits center, baby.

[Bowen Yang]

The first time ever, you're like, let's go book the Javits Center.

[Julio Torres]

We have.

[Matt Rogers]

If we don't get the Javits Center, I swear to God, I'm not going.

[Julio Torres]

Okay. If anyone out there knows, has a contact at Javits, I think we can figure that out.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Go to Javitsenter.orgbookings. submit event.

[Bowen Yang]

Submit event.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Pitch your event in less than 50 words. Okay, so it's a Zodon fundraiser. They're like, no, no. This is deeply in the Eric Adams pocket.

[Matt Rogers]

Ms. Javits, we don't know.

[Bowen Yang]

That's so true.

[Julio Torres]

I think she might be establishment.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Anyway, I think Javits center is kind of pro establishment, giving big convention vibes.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, sure.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Comic Con, car shows.

[Bowen Yang]

Although, if this is true, reach out and tell us we're wrong.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Prove it. Prove it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Prove it and host this.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Host this.

[Matt Rogers]

Host this.

[Bowen Yang]

This is a way to get it going. Threats.

[Julio Torres]

Threats.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Remember when Skittles was in your comments a bunch?

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Maybe the Javitsanders can be the new Skittles.

[Julio Torres]

Yes. Skittles was in our comments.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh.

[Julio Torres]

Cause one time during COVID we did Instagram live from the bath.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

And then Skittles Was like, kind of pervy with us.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you ever really got Skittles?

[Matt Rogers]

Was kind of pervy with us?

[Julio Torres]

They were.

[Bowen Yang]

Sometimes I am a little blown away by, like, I will be talking to, like, whatever. There's this pizza chain in la, but.

[Matt Rogers]

You know, all these accounts are ran by gay guys.

[Bowen Yang]

That's what I'm saying is it's like. I was like, where is this conversation going?

[Julio Torres]

It's a pizza chain in la.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a pizza chain in la. I don't want to say which, because it did get really flirty in the DMs.

[Matt Rogers]

And it was just with the pizza. Yeah, a pizza mascot with the pizza. What's the pizza mascot? Is it like, a chef?

[Bowen Yang]

This was. By the way, this was years ago. It was Lucifer's Pizza. So it was like a little devil.

[Matt Rogers]

And you liked the devil.

[Bowen Yang]

And I was just going back and forth in the DMs with whoever was running the social. This was years ago.

[Matt Rogers]

You think they took turns flirting with you?

[Bowen Yang]

I think that whoever I was.

[Matt Rogers]

You think it was a corporate mandate to keep flirting with you?

[Bowen Yang]

I think it was one. One, like, go, go ahead. Message from me from getting horny. And I have witnesses. My friend. Our friend Gus Hickey was with me and I was like, is this getting horny? And he was like, absolutely. Can confirm.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Whenever I go there now.

[Matt Rogers]

Did they retain. Did they retain the. The company voice in their messages?

[Bowen Yang]

That's what I'm saying. The stuff of pizza dropped away and suddenly it was, like, giving winky face.

[Julio Torres]

And I was like, listen, Spike Jonze could never.

[Matt Rogers]

I love that winky face.

[Bowen Yang]

Spike Jonze could never.

[Matt Rogers]

Could never.

[Julio Torres]

That's more interesting than her. I think I love falling in love with.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I say what movie? I love her.

[Julio Torres]

I do love her. That's an amazing movie.

[Matt Rogers]

That's truly one of my favorite Scarlet performances.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, agreed. Agreed.

[Julio Torres]

And Joaquin.

[Matt Rogers]

And Joaquin. He can drop out of my movie anytime. Kane.

[Julio Torres]

For gay stuff. Is that what I was. No.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, well, have you heard about our Mara Wars?

[Matt Rogers]

Mara Wars?

[Bowen Yang]

So Bowen is in the Rooney Mara fan club and I'm in the Kate Mara fan club.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, yes. But we love both of them.

[Bowen Yang]

We love both. I'm just saying.

[Matt Rogers]

Are they related?

[Julio Torres]

Yes, they're sisters.

[Matt Rogers]

Really?

[Julio Torres]

You didn't know?

[Matt Rogers]

I didn't know. They have such different.

[Bowen Yang]

Very different vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Yes. Which would you prefer?

[Matt Rogers]

Rooney.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I think that cracks.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

You're a Rooney guy.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm a Kate Mary. Because I don't think people Give her the credit because I haven't seen An Education.

[Julio Torres]

I've seen it.

[Matt Rogers]

An Education with Peter Sarsgard.

[Bowen Yang]

No. An Education is her show. FX on Hulu.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh.

[Bowen Yang]

And it was on An Education where it was her and Love Simon. And she plays a teacher that gets.

[Matt Rogers]

Into a relationship with her and Love Simon.

[Julio Torres]

Yes, the kid who played Love Simon Simon. But it's not called An Education. That's the Gary Mullen movie.

[Matt Rogers]

Her and Loves Simon. Wait.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah. Wait, wait.

[Matt Rogers]

What is it?

[Julio Torres]

What is it, Rachel?

[Bowen Yang]

A Teacher. A teacher. A teacher. A teacher.

[Matt Rogers]

An Education.

[Bowen Yang]

A teacher.

[Matt Rogers]

An Education is Peter Sarsgaard is a period piece. There's, like, focus.

[Bowen Yang]

Carey Mulligan, big breakout role.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

You know what's a great sentence? I'm sorry? What's a great sentence? I had a friend say this to me recently.

[Matt Rogers]

What?

[Julio Torres]

I'm dating a teacher.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm dating a teacher.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm dating. It's such a lovely set with excitement.

[Julio Torres]

Yes, of course. Oh, but it's also just lovely. It's lovely to date a teacher.

[Matt Rogers]

Great hours.

[Bowen Yang]

There's a song about the Bye Bye Birdie soundtrack. An English teacher's wife.

[Matt Rogers]

An English teacher's wife.

[Julio Torres]

That musical is weird to me.

[Bowen Yang]

It's so weird.

[Julio Torres]

It's weird. It's.

[Matt Rogers]

The musical is about an English teacher's wife.

[Julio Torres]

No, the musical is about.

[Bowen Yang]

Tell us about this story by May Birdie.

[Julio Torres]

It's about a guy named Birdie.

[Bowen Yang]

Conrad Birdie.

[Julio Torres]

Conrad Birdie. And then there's like a dad who wants to go to the Ed Sullivan Show. It's like a weird. I never really got that.

[Bowen Yang]

We did it in high school. And I sat really upset in the theater because I wasn't in it. Cause I was too closeted. And I slip. High school was deprived of my Conrad Birdie. Because this is Conrad Birdie. Conrad Birdie play is like. Is like an Elvis Presley type.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Who they all are going crazy over. And then he has to join the war. He has to join the army.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And so it's a whole thing of like. It's like. Then they start, like a campaign. It's like, Save Conrad is what it is.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, basically. But see, does anyone know this is.

[Bowen Yang]

The Bye Bye Birdie plot.

[Julio Torres]

Explanation challenge. If you can succinctly explain the plot of Bye bye birdie.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

$10.

[Bowen Yang]

Because there is a whole thing where.

[Matt Rogers]

There is a whole thing to the charity of choice.

[Bowen Yang]

Then there's this woman that's like. She's again, like, she's, you know, stomping her Foot at her husband because he's an English teacher. But that's what she wanted.

[Matt Rogers]

Sorry, sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

Rosie is her name.

[Matt Rogers]

The Elvis. The Elvis Presley type is also an English teacher.

[Julio Torres]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

Two different male leads.

[Julio Torres]

He's coming into that.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, you can't have that.

[Julio Torres]

He's come. But then there's this couple named Hugo and Kim. And then the opening number is actually really cute. It's called the Will Ferrell's Big Money.

[Bowen Yang]

Players and iHeartRadio podcast, created and hosted by Matt Rogers. And did you watch Mad Men? Executive produced by Adam. So the gay character in Mad Men, Salvatore Romano, who was, like, the visuals guy, was like, very inspired by the opening of Bye Bye Birdie and was like, it's like, gonna be like Ann Margaret. And they were all watching, like, look at the way he talks about this. It's kind of gay.

[Matt Rogers]

Contextually. That would be his Sunset Boulevard with Nicole.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, in the. Cause it's his. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And then his whole problem in the episode was they get a girl to come in and, like, do the ad, which is, like, kind of like ripping on Ann Margaret. And he's like, she's not Ann Margaret. And it's like he's getting a little gay about it because it's like, she doesn't have, like, the star quality. Everyone's like, what are you talking about? It's great. And he's like, no, I think this is what it is. Again, I could be wrong.

[Julio Torres]

It's so hard to explain story to people.

[Bowen Yang]

What's the simplest story to explain? Titanic. Titanic, rich girl, poor guy. They fall in love. It's drama. And then guess what? They hit an iceberg and.

[Julio Torres]

And boom, boom. Cinderella. You can explain very well. And this I would submit to the dress ranking Cinderella, not the.

[Matt Rogers]

The pink dress. That her mother left the pink dress.

[Julio Torres]

Because that was devastating when they tore it apart. Mmm. Like, there was so much emotional tragedy. It was like, as an audience, you cared so much. You were so happy for her about that dress.

[Bowen Yang]

That was really good. That's off Broadway.

[Julio Torres]

That's off Broadway.

[Matt Rogers]

That's off Broadway.

[Bowen Yang]

The way you performed for Fear. That's really good. I presented you the award for acting.

[Matt Rogers]

I knew the G to give me an award for acting.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I tell you something? We were actually so excited because it was me and James doing it. And I said to James, I was like, should we look? And so we looked a little early, and James saw your name, and he goes. And I was like. I was like, okay, I'll. You can say it. You can Say it.

[Julio Torres]

He has to. He. He had to have said it, and he said it. That's really beautiful that they were there for that.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow. Show business.

[Julio Torres]

My God. You can't even be sentimental for once.

[Bowen Yang]

You couldn't even do that. You couldn't even. You said, wow, show business.

[Matt Rogers]

Show business.

[Bowen Yang]

The disdain. Your friends get to present you the big award at the Gotham Awards.

[Matt Rogers]

The big award at the Gotham Awards. At the Gotham Awards.

[Bowen Yang]

At the Gotham Awards.

[Matt Rogers]

At the Gotham Awards.

[Bowen Yang]

Very fun. Very fun.

[Julio Torres]

Awards. I love it.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, this is a room full of Gotham winners. Oh, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Here's what a Gotham win.

[Matt Rogers]

Everyone gets a Gotham.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

This is a thing. So they were, like, trying to figure out a way to, like, bring me and James to the stage. And I was like, with a voiceover, and I was like, say Gotham Award winners to James Scully and Matt Rogers. And then they did, and we got up there, and Peggy Sullivan was, like, whispering to each other. What did they.

[Matt Rogers]

Who are they?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, what did they.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, who?

[Bowen Yang]

No, I'm kidding. They didn't do that. But it was funny because we were just, like, brought up with all this pomp and circumstances.

[Matt Rogers]

Beautiful.

[Bowen Yang]

That's a fact.

[Matt Rogers]

That's a fact. Best ensemble. Best ensemble, right?

[Bowen Yang]

I like my Gotham Award. I remember you saying the shape of it.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

A column.

[Matt Rogers]

A column.

[Julio Torres]

Pretty good.

[Bowen Yang]

Pretty good. And it's also silver, which is a. You know, my favorite color going back to childhood. There's a video of me. You would be proud of me. There's a video of me at 3 years old, and they're asking you questions. I think it was, like, a childhood, like, neighborhood safety thing where they were like, what's your name? What's your mom's name? Where do you live? What's. And then they started asking more fun questions, like, what's your favorite color? And I took a beat and I go, silver.

[Matt Rogers]

Heaven.

[Julio Torres]

That's cool.

[Matt Rogers]

Silver, silver, silver. Polished silver.

[Bowen Yang]

An answer I think I would never give again, even though it's true.

[Julio Torres]

But, you know, your favorite color is silver?

[Bowen Yang]

I think so.

[Matt Rogers]

You're a warm tone, which is why it's surprising that his favorite color is silver.

[Julio Torres]

Your warm tone.

[Matt Rogers]

You mean, like, do I feel like it?

[Julio Torres]

Your undertone of your coloring.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, is this the thing where the lady puts the fabric in the front? I think you.

[Julio Torres]

As part of. As part of promotion for the show, I think you should have that. A lady who does that.

[Matt Rogers]

Is it one lady or is it multiple ladies?

[Julio Torres]

There are multiple specialists, and they are all so amazing at what you do.

[Matt Rogers]

They're like, bum, bum.

[Julio Torres]

But just the way they comment on it is just, like, mesmerizing.

[Matt Rogers]

But they're very like, see? See what I'm saying? Or sometimes it's better now, right? See what I'm saying? Do you see the difference?

[Bowen Yang]

You see how this is good?

[Matt Rogers]

You see how this is good and this is bad? And he's like, oh, right. Yeah, see, right. You felt the holy spirit, right?

[Julio Torres]

This is like a driver kind of going on and on about things that we'll cut, we'll cut that, we'll cut.

[Matt Rogers]

That, we'll cut that.

[Julio Torres]

Yes. But don't you just want that experience anyway of just having someone tell you what colors look good on you?

[Bowen Yang]

But it is kind of nice to hear. Like, it's probably not a good idea for you to do blank. Like, you know, it's not a great idea for.

[Julio Torres]

For me.

[Matt Rogers]

What?

[Bowen Yang]

Jewel tones? What?

[Matt Rogers]

I disagree. Really hard disagree. You are jewel tones.

[Bowen Yang]

I think spiritually.

[Matt Rogers]

Eva Longboria. Eva Longoria jewel tones. All your. All your idols are jewel tones.

[Julio Torres]

That doesn't mean he's jewel tones. He.

[Bowen Yang]

I do love Longoria is such a jewel tone.

[Julio Torres]

Are you kidding?

[Bowen Yang]

She wore a lot of jewel tones on Desperate Housewives, if you remember. There was always, like, a really, like, a bright royal blue.

[Matt Rogers]

There was always, like, bright red emeralds.

[Bowen Yang]

She was giving a. Oh, she would absolutely slay in, like, a mint. Love Eva.

[Julio Torres]

Not a jewel.

[Bowen Yang]

Emerald green is what I meant to say.

[Matt Rogers]

Mint. Love Eva.

[Bowen Yang]

I love Eva.

[Julio Torres]

I do love Eva.

[Matt Rogers]

Have you been on the podcast?

[Bowen Yang]

Have you met Eva?

[Julio Torres]

Have you met Eva?

[Matt Rogers]

I've never met her.

[Bowen Yang]

That feels wrong.

[Matt Rogers]

It feels wrong that she hasn't been on the podcast.

[Julio Torres]

No, Definitely no. Certainly we talk about her.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, L.A. louisiana.

[Julio Torres]

We talk about her all the time.

[Matt Rogers]

Is she aware of this?

[Julio Torres]

She must be.

[Bowen Yang]

I think she might be.

[Matt Rogers]

In fact, she's like, which gay guys are this?

[Julio Torres]

Right? I'm sure she asked that. But someone must have clued her in on the award that we named after her.

[Bowen Yang]

The Eva Longoria Award.

[Julio Torres]

Tiny woman, huge impact.

[Bowen Yang]

Tiny woman, huge impact. We wanted her to present the award, but the schedules did not align.

[Matt Rogers]

No, she's recognizing.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. She is directing. And what I would say is in advance. I would love for her to come next year. God willing, we get to do it again.

[Matt Rogers]

Eva Longoria, if you're listening, please come next year.

[Julio Torres]

Julio will do another bit. Honestly, I think Julio should win an award next year.

[Bowen Yang]

It's probably about time, huh?

[Julio Torres]

I think you should give this year.

[Matt Rogers]

I think it's about time.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, let's see how Color Theories is. Let's see. 22 performances.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. 22 performances. Not enough to qualify for anything, but maybe a Los Colturistas.

[Julio Torres]

Maybe a Los Coltaristas Award.

[Bowen Yang]

Definitely.

[Julio Torres]

Is it gonna be filmed or is it pure theater?

[Bowen Yang]

Cause Taylor Swift would film it. She would.

[Matt Rogers]

She would film it. She would film it. She's directing it.

[Bowen Yang]

Does that mean you wouldn't.

[Matt Rogers]

What? I'll film it. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe that would. Maybe. We're into. Supposed to.

[Julio Torres]

We're supposed to ask. We'll cut her. We'll cut her out. No.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Olivia is about to scold us. Olivia. We have the same manager.

[Julio Torres]

Mm. And she is likely to take a meeting in the middle of the show. Much like Matt.

[Matt Rogers]

A thousand percent. One thousand percent.

[Julio Torres]

We love you, Olivia. Hey, everyone. We know many of you probably have a watch list with all the streaming shows you want to see. Well, if you haven't seen Platonic on Apple tv, you need to add it to yours now. It's hilarious. Curious. Seth Rogen and Rose Byrne play a pair of platonic besties like Matt and I who are as likely to cause trouble for each other as they are to support each other.

[Bowen Yang]

If you have seen it, you already know that, but you might not know that. Season two of Platonic is out now.

[Julio Torres]

This season, Rogen and Byrne deal with uncomfortably hilarious midlife hurdles, including new business ventures, weddings, and partners in crises. And as best friends do, they try to help each other other, but sometimes just make things worse. These two are just so funny together.

[Bowen Yang]

Love them. Luke McFarlane and Carla Gallo are so back this season alongside new guest stars, including some seriously funny SNL alums. AD Bryant, Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett, and the fabulous Milo Manheim.

[Julio Torres]

If you haven't seen season one, catch up immediately. And if you have, second season of Platonic is now streaming on Apple tv. Plus, don't miss it.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Julio Torres]

I love being able to touch my buds and control the volume. Feels amazing on the skin.

[Bowen Yang]

With a built in wireless transmitter that lets you plug and play with any device you want, the JBL Tour connects you to all your favorite music, movies and games.

[Julio Torres]

The wireless transmitter also allows for JBL's superior spatial sound that takes any audio and turns it into a 360 immersive experience.

[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages. Right from the case, use the bigger.

[Julio Torres]

Clear 1.57-inch touchscreen to see what song is playing or who's calling you or personalize the tactile screen with your favorite photo.

[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen to get info on battery life, status, time, messages, etc first.

[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Matt Rogers]

Ugh.

[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

Now I think it's time. Is it time?

[Bowen Yang]

I think it's time. It's time for. I don't think so, honey. So just to refresh you and everyone at home, it's a one minute segment that we take to rant rail destroy. Really, like, I don't know, sometimes just totally obliterate something in culture that's bothering us. Something has recently come to my attention actually, as a result of the culture awards.

[Julio Torres]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's the angle I'm taking today.

[Julio Torres]

This is exciting. This is Matt Rogers's I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so, honey. The people who thought that the lyric in Diet Pepsi was Costco ch. Chain.

[Julio Torres]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

So a lot of people, as a result of Ben Platt's brilliant rendition of Diet Pepsi by Addison Ray, have for the first time heard cross gold chain. And a lot of people are like, I thought it was Costco chain. I don't think so, honey. What is a Costco chain? Like, I understand you can go to Costco and buy many things, but I don't think jewelry is one of them. Also you can. I just feel like it's, it's, it's a reach. And I understand that the, the song was written in like Alana Del Rey. So sort of like fever dream. But I think we're trying to reach at like, what would Lana say? And maybe Lana Del Rey would say, I bought a chain at Costco. But that's not what the line is. And if you listen to it more than once, you hear that it's cross gold chain. I understand. Like, maybe we want something different. It's not that. I don't think so, honey. You need to get your ears checked.

[Julio Torres]

Five seconds.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you, Ben Platt, for bringing this to the forefront. It's cross gold chain, not Costco chain. I don't think so. And that's one minute, you know?

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, Costco chain.

[Bowen Yang]

More than 10 people have said this in my comments. Like, I never really heard that it wasn't Costco chain.

[Matt Rogers]

You're a comment reader.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm actually, I've actually now, as a result of like the past few months, I'd say I'm thinking about disabling comments.

[Julio Torres]

Oh. On Instagram.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm thinking about just doing a flat out. If I don't follow you, you can, you can't comment situation.

[Julio Torres]

I've done that for quite Some time.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Or it's. It's that if. For me, it's just if you don't follow me, you. You can't comment.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

That's pretty open policy.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like, oh, yeah. No, I guess it's like you have.

[Julio Torres]

To, like, you can't comment unless you follow me, which is actually quite. It's like, therefore, it's no, like random people just.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Drive by.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

And so that might be something.

[Matt Rogers]

You got to commit to following me.

[Julio Torres]

Kind of cute.

[Matt Rogers]

If you want to insult me, if.

[Bowen Yang]

You want to get in my head for hours, you got to follow me first.

[Matt Rogers]

If you want to say racist or homophobic things, you got to hit the follow button. Hello first.

[Bowen Yang]

It really is something, huh?

[Julio Torres]

It's interesting how this all worked, how this all and how it never really was meant to be part of the human experience until whenever you say this.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm like, that is true.

[Matt Rogers]

And it all goes to little Mark.

[Julio Torres]

To Little Mark.

[Matt Rogers]

Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble. Every little comment, every little piece of hate. Gobble, gobble, gobble.

[Julio Torres]

Every time.

[Bowen Yang]

Every time.

[Matt Rogers]

Cha ching.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Cha ching for the hate means Cha ching. Every time you say, like. It's actually not a thing where we're not supposed to know other people's thoughts.

[Julio Torres]

We're not supposed to read other people's thoughts.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Julio Torres]

In that way where it's like, bit by bit by bit by bit. I'm not supposed to read other people's thoughts. And it's. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Because there's a lot of stream of consciousness in there, of course.

[Julio Torres]

And you're like, there's no unifying thing here other than its response. Like, what's. What one particular image is supposed to convey. Like, it's whatever. I don't have to get into it.

[Bowen Yang]

TBD for now. Let it rip. In the comments. They're still. There's just. Are you ready? Bowen Yang? Do you have an. I don't think so, honey.

[Julio Torres]

I do. I do.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Julio Torres]

I don't think so, honey. Weed in. So I don't think this is helping me in particular anymore. I enjoy it for other people. I'm not gonna name brands, but a weed soda has recently knocked me on my ass, and it's made by amazing people.

[Matt Rogers]

I just think that we know.

[Julio Torres]

That we know and we love. But the weed soda has been sent to me in yet another box full of four, six packs. And you know what? 30 seconds I have known about myself to blame. And I take it back. Actually, I don't blame the people. I blame myself for imbibing three weed sodas. No, no, I had one. No, I had one. Three weed sodas over three days, but I had one. I had half a weed soda last night that I shared with our friend Celestium. And 15 seconds. I woke up today groggier than ever. I think this is just a moratorium on marijuana overall.

[Bowen Yang]

Five seconds.

[Julio Torres]

This is my Reagan rave. Nancy was onto something. Just say no.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, God. And that's when. One minute. Now all that does is make me want it even more.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I've never had one.

[Bowen Yang]

I enjoy it.

[Julio Torres]

It sneaks up on you in a way that like, inedible hits you out of nowhere. You know, the joint hits you. It kind of just hits you right away. But the weed soda, just like slowly.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't like feeling groggy.

[Julio Torres]

I know, I know.

[Matt Rogers]

Groggy.

[Bowen Yang]

I wonder if that's because you maybe had too many.

[Julio Torres]

I had half of one last night and I woke up this morning feeling crazy tired.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm just talking consecutively. Cause I do think it's a thing.

[Julio Torres]

Like it's cumulative.

[Bowen Yang]

We were just in P town and so it was sort of like cigarette alley. Like when I'm on vacation, like I will allow myself to be corrupted by members of the vacation party that smoke cigarettes. And I just smoke a lot of them and I drink a lot and then I'm smoking a lot of weed and I'm just like, afterwards I feel bad for like four or five days. And I think it was just the consistency.

[Julio Torres]

I'm on that come down for sure.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, me too. You're doing good now.

[Julio Torres]

I think so now that I'm with you guys, I actually did.

[Bowen Yang]

I said I got back to the city today and felt so much better.

[Julio Torres]

Good.

[Bowen Yang]

Like I was just like. It was just like this thing of like, you know the post vacation, when you're kind of just like, oh, now I'll sit for a while. And the sitting just kind of like.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't have that. But I. I've heard of this phenomenon.

[Julio Torres]

Why don't you have that?

[Matt Rogers]

Of like, we're talking about like an emotional valley after a vacation.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Julio Torres]

This is so common. You don't have that.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I don't think I do.

[Bowen Yang]

So jealous, I guess. Is that because you're not doing a lot of like, drugs on vacation?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

So that's what it is. Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

That's good.

[Bowen Yang]

Good for you. Pure, innocent fun.

[Julio Torres]

I'm in rehearsal mode.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm in rehearsal mode for my Broadway show.

[Bowen Yang]

Shall we have the. Okay. Should we have a little line?

[Matt Rogers]

No, no.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm in rehearsal.

[Matt Rogers]

Arrest. Nasal rest.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, but who.

[Julio Torres]

I would. How much money do I. Would. I have to. Are you making A and B? I have to pay you to wear a shirt that says iq. Can't I have rehearsal? I would die to see you wear that.

[Bowen Yang]

I can't. I have rehearsal.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, see, now, maybe that's title event.

[Julio Torres]

So can't I have rehearsal?

[Matt Rogers]

I think it would largely depend on the font, which would indicate whether this is an ironic shirt or, like, can't. He has rehearsal and you.

[Julio Torres]

And in order for it to be ironic, it would have to be.

[Matt Rogers]

It would have to be, like, cursive.

[Julio Torres]

It can't look too aesthetically pleasing. It has to look a little bit.

[Matt Rogers]

It has to be. It has to. Like, if the font is anything but, like, straightforward, then it's an ironic T shirt.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Julio Torres]

And it would have to be an ironic T shirt for you to wear it. No. Cause you don't wear ironic T shirts.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, I have one big gun to your head. Bazooka locked and loaded. Gun of fire. You have to pick one T shirt. It says, I can't. I have rehearsal. One says, I was young, I needed the money. And the other one says, not a day over fabulous. Which one? And you know the font it's written in. I don't have to explain.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. The options were, I can't have rehearsal. Not a day over fabulous.

[Bowen Yang]

And I was young, I needed the money.

[Matt Rogers]

And I was young, I needed the money.

[Julio Torres]

Money.

[Matt Rogers]

I think I'm gonna go with rehearsal.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah. Cause that's, like, it's so not. You're so not that person.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I feel like I was young, I needed the money. People will go, like, it's okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I tell you something?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a real sign that I have in my LA apartment.

[Matt Rogers]

Which one of the three I was. And it's a sign.

[Bowen Yang]

It's next to a picture of me and Bill.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, but it's a sign. I don't think it works if it's a knickknack. Unless you're wearing it.

[Bowen Yang]

I put it in my apartment in 2019 when I first moved to LA. I was like, yeah, this. I, like, got it from, like, Redfin or whatever the fuck.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, whatever. The Gay Cracker barrel is.

[Julio Torres]

No, Like, Red bubble.

[Matt Rogers]

Red bubble.

[Bowen Yang]

What's Red bubble?

[Julio Torres]

What's the gay Cracker Barrel.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know. I'm like, Cracker Barrel is like where you buy little signs, right?

[Bowen Yang]

You clearly don't go online to find. Find, like, special knickknacks and crafts.

[Julio Torres]

Wait, now we should take Hooly to Cracker Barrel.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I would love that.

[Julio Torres]

He thinks it's where you buy signs.

[Bowen Yang]

You can eat peanuts and just throw the peanuts on the ground. Oh, my God.

[Julio Torres]

In addition to like having a delicious, you know, casserole or something.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You can get like 72 ounce beer. You can eat your peanuts, which instead of like, you know, bread for the table. It's peanuts for the table. You eat the peanuts and throw it on the ground. And then do you have to throw.

[Matt Rogers]

It on the ground?

[Julio Torres]

It's like part the of Texas Roadhouse.

[Matt Rogers]

And this is. Wait, sorry. And throwing the peanut. And throwing the peanut shells on the ground. This brings pleasure to.

[Julio Torres]

I wouldn't say it's like part of. I don't think it's like a known thing about Cracker. It's like you're thinking of McSorley's Texas.

[Bowen Yang]

Roadhouse is honestly what it is. It's like, remember when we would go to Austin like every year to do Story Pirates and we'd go to Texas Roadhouse and the whole thing was like, you break open your nut with your teeth and you throw it on the ground and then someone has to come by and sweep it. And the whole thing of like.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's the guy the minimum age.

[Bowen Yang]

Employee has to a crunch. That's a good job. They know when they apply. They could have applied at Sonic. They could have applied at Outback Steakhouse where everything gets thrown in the garbage. This is something different.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Julio Torres]

I don't know. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to take you.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. To where. Sorry.

[Julio Torres]

Cracker Barrel slash Texas Road.

[Bowen Yang]

I think both have this thing of the nuts on the ground. Nuts on the ground. Nuts on the ground. Isn't that a song?

[Matt Rogers]

It is now.

[Julio Torres]

Reality is forking right now.

[Matt Rogers]

Reality is forking.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't know any of that. Reality is forked in a major way on this episode, but we'd expect nothing less.

[Julio Torres]

And there's yet. And there's yet more to come.

[Bowen Yang]

And one more. I don't think so. And he is on the way. Will reality force after these messages? Imagine we put an actual commercial break in here. Should wait.

[Julio Torres]

Let's put it right here.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Julio Torres]

And we're back.

[Bowen Yang]

Ugh. Everyone's pissed. Everyone's like, that was too long. Mom, shut up. So are you ready?

[Matt Rogers]

I am ready.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. This is Julio Torres. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think so, honey. Not putting shoes on the mannequins. Uh, oh, honey, honey, honey, honey. I get it that you don't sell shoes at this store. I understand that, but the mannequin has toenails.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

You have to put shoes on the mannequin. You have. The manufacturer of the mannequin has humanized this form to the extent that they're giving it. Like they're giving it toenails.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It.

[Julio Torres]

It.

[Matt Rogers]

It has been thought of. And you. Not so much as putting a sock or. Or. Or a. Or just a slide, a flat, a slipper.

[Bowen Yang]

It's wretched.

[Matt Rogers]

It's wretched. Unless this is a bathing suit store. Right, right. Because even if it's lingerie, Give her a. Give her a pump.

[Julio Torres]

Give her a pump.

[Matt Rogers]

Give her a pump.

[Julio Torres]

What about pajamas?

[Matt Rogers]

Give her a pump.

[Bowen Yang]

Give her a pump.

[Matt Rogers]

Tell us. Give her a pump.

[Bowen Yang]

Let's give her a pump. Serve for her five seconds.

[Matt Rogers]

It is disgusting to not put shoes on the mannequins.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's what minute. I hadn't even thought of this. But that's what makes you. You. You really do have a fresh, creative mind. Wow. That's why I'm so happy you came in.

[Julio Torres]

I have a question. Do they have to have hair on their head?

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Julio Torres]

Well, then at what point do you draw the line of the realism versus the.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, you are being very binary about it. That a woman mannequin has to have long hair. I'm not gendering the mannequin.

[Julio Torres]

I'm saying you have a shoe. But if they have to have a shoe because the mannequin has been. The realism of the mannequin has gone to the point of them having toenails. Should they have hair? I mean, this is not to put any sort of value on, like, being bald is not realism.

[Matt Rogers]

No. Because I think that you can elect to not have hair.

[Julio Torres]

That's right. Just like you can elect to not have shoes.

[Matt Rogers]

No. Because these people are presumably not in their homes. In the world of these mannequins, do.

[Bowen Yang]

You ever worry about, like, how they tell time so they all have a watch? Are we to assume that all of these people have perfect 2020 vision? Why does it want. Why does it want mannequin have eyeglasses?

[Matt Rogers]

Well, okay. Okay. I think that, like, some of. Okay. If it's a large store with, like, a hundred mannequins, say, it's like Macy's.

[Julio Torres]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Then, yes, statistically, some of them should have glasses.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

And hair.

[Matt Rogers]

And hair. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

What do you think about that errant mannequin that just has, like, both of its forearms cut off? You know what I'm talking about? It's just all of a sudden it's like, well, what happened?

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I think that she's got a.

[Bowen Yang]

Great blouse, but what happened to her arms?

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I think that there are mannequins that do take liberties with the human form.

[Julio Torres]

Well, yes, but if it's going for realism.

[Matt Rogers]

If it's going for realism and it has toenails.

[Julio Torres]

Give it a phone. Give it a phone. Give it a wallet.

[Bowen Yang]

Give it a wallet.

[Matt Rogers]

Keys, make an id.

[Bowen Yang]

A labubu.

[Julio Torres]

A labubu.

[Matt Rogers]

Depending on the age, I guess.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, now they're all ages.

[Julio Torres]

Now they're all. No, it's all ages.

[Matt Rogers]

No, it's all ages.

[Bowen Yang]

Just final words before we let you go. What do you think of Leboo and Lefufuu?

[Matt Rogers]

Lefufuu is the friend.

[Julio Torres]

The fake one.

[Matt Rogers]

The fake one. Team Lefufuu. Team Lefufu. The people's la booboo.

[Julio Torres]

That's true.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it really is true.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait. Rule of culture number 59.

[Matt Rogers]

Lafufu, the People's Laboon.

[Bowen Yang]

Might make it in the book.

[Julio Torres]

Absolutely, the book.

[Matt Rogers]

Gani, you guys are gonna have an airline in no time.

[Bowen Yang]

Las culturias with air.

[Julio Torres]

No lounges.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God, those flight attendants. The way I would put on sunglasses and, like, look away.

[Julio Torres]

Jesus, when those flight attendants.

[Bowen Yang]

Who are you insulting? Regular flight attendants.

[Julio Torres]

Hundreds of people at the same time.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, including us.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, like, sir, sir, sir.

[Matt Rogers]

You haven't heard the rule of culture.

[Bowen Yang]

The rule of culture. You go from the seat belts, go from your right to your left. It's your location. Number one.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow. We're gonna have an airline.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, Julio, come on. The airline.

[Matt Rogers]

You should have an airline. Okay, I'll do it, Captain.

[Bowen Yang]

An airline, as far as we care.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I'll do it.

[Julio Torres]

It'll be a private jet with a huge, huge carbon footprint.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I think Leskul Teresa's Air is sort of like wow Air. Remember wow Air.

[Julio Torres]

What was wow Air?

[Bowen Yang]

It's wow Air.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow Air was an Icelandic airline that made. They all had Made. They all had to make stops in Reykjavik, and they were branded and it was wow. And they had spinoffs. They had mom, dad and gay.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, that's cool.

[Julio Torres]

What? Yeah, Iceland's gay.

[Matt Rogers]

Went to San Francisco.

[Bowen Yang]

I was, like, gonna Say they're onto something by making Reykjavik a stop because everyone should go there.

[Julio Torres]

Oh, that's fabulous. I've never been. We actually need to go.

[Bowen Yang]

So we're planning a lot now. We're planning.

[Julio Torres]

I did. I did. I did a shoot there. It was so fun.

[Matt Rogers]

Is that what where the next Lascal Teresa Awards happens?

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, it's in our dream of dreams. Yes, but then it would just be like us and Bjork, which really would be. We can figure that out.

[Julio Torres]

I think there is like a tax incentive to shoot there. So y' all should think about it.

[Matt Rogers]

No, but the whole thing about Les Colistas is that it's an American show. It's an indispensable show. It's a very American show.

[Bowen Yang]

It's very American.

[Julio Torres]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

I think wow Air makes me think of wow chips. What are wow chips? Delta work explains this very well. Frito Lay used to have wow chips, like in the 90s, where it was not cooked with. It was cooked with a different oil called olestra. And the oil would kind of slip through your entire digestive system.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my God.

[Julio Torres]

Your body would not absorb the oil. And so they were like healthy chips. But then you would take.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, the oil goes right out.

[Julio Torres]

You would take in nutrients. There's no absorption at all. Oh, but you would have poisonous shits from.

[Matt Rogers]

Did it say in the packaging there's no absorption at all?

[Julio Torres]

I think they should have. Cause now they're. Where are they now? People hated it.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, they hated it.

[Julio Torres]

Well, because they didn't. No, people loved it. They would be around still.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Julio Torres]

Can you imagine a chip that you didn't have to digest?

[Bowen Yang]

It's a chip that every single time you digest it, you have poisonous shits. So that won't work at all.

[Julio Torres]

At all. That's the trade off. I mean, people. People hate poisonous shits more than they like non digestive chips.

[Bowen Yang]

But kudos to them for being so good that it was even a conversation there for a while. Because you wouldn't even think that there is a conversation there.

[Matt Rogers]

That's like an interesting show that has one season.

[Bowen Yang]

Before we let you go, one thing I realized is you actually and Taylor have another thing in common. I think you would really. I know she really likes this word and I think you would like this word.

[Matt Rogers]

What is the word?

[Bowen Yang]

Variant.

[Matt Rogers]

Variant. The agent. Variant. Variant.

[Bowen Yang]

She puts out different variants. Now all the Swifties, which is millions of people, use the word variant in everyday language.

[Matt Rogers]

Like epidemiology terms like variant. A new strain.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, variant.

[Matt Rogers]

And Is it like medical pop?

[Bowen Yang]

Like variants? We haven't heard it yet. We don't know.

[Julio Torres]

We haven't heard it yet. We don't know. But she calls her different vinyls variants. Different colors of vinyls, color theories variants. And she is. We were thinking about you when she announced this era. It's Showgirls. It is her circus era.

[Bowen Yang]

Literally.

[Matt Rogers]

It's her.

[Bowen Yang]

She has finally got her circus.

[Matt Rogers]

Be careful. Don't stay there too long.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I don't think she will.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no. Okay.

[Julio Torres]

This is a quick. The circus, but there's the rumor that she will be doing the super bowl and then the Sphere in Vegas because it fits with the aesthetic of Showgirls. And so therefore, what, more of a circus, literally, than the sphere? It's a circle, which is the Latin word for circus.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, is the super bowl in Las Vegas this year?

[Julio Torres]

It is not in Las Vegas, but it is in another city where another hint from the New Heights podcast was alluding to the location where it would be like New Orleans or something, because.

[Bowen Yang]

They were like, what have you been getting into lately? And she's like, sourdough bread. And she kept saying, I'm really into sourdough bread. I would say it occupies 60% of my time when I believe it's the 60th Super Bowl. And.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm sorry, what is the connection between sourdough bread?

[Bowen Yang]

SB Sour. Sourdough bread. Super Bowl.

[Matt Rogers]

And these are intentional things that she does?

[Julio Torres]

Perhaps they are. We don't know yet.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Everything is intentional until they're not. Until it's not.

[Julio Torres]

Until our projection loses power.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I mean, for all we know, she's like, what?

[Bowen Yang]

I would actually kill to see you two in conversation. I'm not kidding. I think it would be really good.

[Julio Torres]

Two directors.

[Matt Rogers]

Two directors.

[Julio Torres]

She's got something at Searchlight.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Does she?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Variant variant Agent. Variant variant.

[Julio Torres]

What does Agent. How does Agent come into this?

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know. I imagine sort of like a bombshell. Ultraviolet. In that genre. Agent.

[Julio Torres]

Atomic Blonde.

[Matt Rogers]

Agent. Atomic Blonde. Agent. Yeah. Not Bombshell.

[Julio Torres]

No, no, no.

[Matt Rogers]

Atomic Blonde.

[Julio Torres]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agent.

[Matt Rogers]

Variant Agent. Variant Agent.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm in Agent Orange.

[Julio Torres]

Interesting.

[Bowen Yang]

So how much to think about after this set?

[Julio Torres]

Color theories is running September 3rd through September 22nd. Performance Space, NYC.

[Bowen Yang]

22 chances.

[Matt Rogers]

Your memory is so crazy.

[Julio Torres]

On First Avenue, not off Broadway. We don't care for that on First Avenue.

[Bowen Yang]

We find it to be diminishing when you say we're off Broadway.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think it's diminishing. I just think it's silly.

[Julio Torres]

So silly.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the things that we do.

[Bowen Yang]

We end every episode with a big song. Sailing takes me away now where I'm going. This is song by Christopher Cross that.

[Julio Torres]

Greta used in as a placeholder audio in a project. We'll tell you about it later.

[Matt Rogers]

Titleman or Titleman.

[Bowen Yang]

Takes me Away. I actually don't know any of the.

[Matt Rogers]

Words, but it's so good I recognize it now.

[Bowen Yang]

This is a 2019 remaster. Check it out.

[Julio Torres]

Last Culture is the Production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio Podcasts.

[Bowen Yang]

Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Becker Ramos, edited and.

[Julio Torres]

Mixed by Doug B.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Julio Torres]

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[Bowen Yang]

I can't wait to see that Luke McFarlane. Well now I'm really excited. Luke and Carla Gallo. Okay, get me to the theater. I mean the show, the tv. See the thing is, Apple TV plus is like watching a movie in your own home. Everything on there is so exc and you'll spot some familiar faces from SNL like A.D. bryant. I know her season two of Platonic is now streaming on Apple TV Plus. It's hilarious. Go check it out. Get into the Hyundai Getaway sales event and get away with a deal. So right it almost feels wrong because right now you can get huge savings on Hyundai's most popular models. Score a great deal on Hyundai's award winning SUVs like Kona, Tucson, Santa Fe and Palisade. The technology packed Elantra and their most advanced Sonata yet and the all electric Ionic 5 and Ionic. But getting away with massive savings is just the beginning because every Hyundai is backed by America's best warranty and complimentary maintenance. Visit HyundaiUSA.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details. Offers End 09-02-2025 this is an I Heart podcast.