"Everything Feet" (w/ Gracie Abrams)

Summary

Las Culturistas – "Everything Feet" (w/ Gracie Abrams)

Release Date: August 5, 2026
Hosts: Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang
Guest: Gracie Abrams

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Overview

In this effervescent and wide-ranging episode of Las Culturistas, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang welcome indie pop singer-songwriter Gracie Abrams for a gleeful, free-associative, and deeply “culturista” conversation. Ostensibly the trio dig into "everything feet"—from WikiFeet drama to concert crowd choreography—but along the way, they chart the cultural moments that made them, swap stories of pop music revelations, touch on the spiritual lives of animals within us, break down the realities of touring and overstimulation, and debate travel etiquette (with pop quiz energy). As always, the discussion is peppered with signature segments, rules of culture, and infectious laughter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Joys and Anxieties of Feet in Culture (15:10–20:45)

• WikiFeet Revelations: Gracie recounts discovering her own WikiFeet page and being haunted by a clinical-sounding comment about her future bunions.
  • “This man wasn't writing from a place of, like, any fetish…It was as if she was a doctor going, I fear she might have, like, a bunion in her future.” – Gracie (16:21)
• The three discuss foot insecurities, the oddness of rating celebrity feet online, and the paradox of caring versus claiming confidence.
• Rule of Culture #3: “At a concert, you can't play the song again.” (09:46)
• Claiming Beauty: Matt jokes, “I feel like I have some of the most beautiful feet in the history of man.” (17:28)

Concert Culture & Presence (04:18–08:44)

• Bowen and Matt introduce Gracie by alluding to the emotionally charged circles of fans at her concerts and the phenomenon of the “soft mosh” (08:00).
• Debate on phones at live shows:
  • Gracie: “If you wanna record every single second of it, I advocate for that too. I'm not anti phone. I'm pro presence.” (08:28)

Formative Cultural Moments: Lorde, “Girls,” and Maguita Perez (33:01–40:04)

• Central Question: “What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?” – Matt (33:01)
• Gracie’s answer: the impact of Lorde’s Pure Heroine—her first concert experience, seeing a peer command the stage, and permission to imagine herself performing (37:36).
• The “Girls” episode with Maguita Perez is cited as a deep reference for all three, with a passionate breakdown of its influence and classic dialogue.
  • “The biggest smile you see on Marnie's face. Except for when Desi's proposing to her.” – Gracie (34:35)

The Absurdities and Rituals of Touring & Performing (13:12–14:30, 78:54–83:22)

• Gracie discusses creating with friends, how laughter and specificity drive her process, and her collaboration with musician/friend Audrey.
• The trio reflect on the pressures and joys of performing, the exhaustion of tour, and how the studio offers escape and reconnection with self:
  • “I was so tired…I just felt, like, absolutely gone. And Aaron's music…presses some button in me that…allows me to remember what I feel.” – Gracie (81:44)
• The importance of the audience feeding the artist, “They're really bringing it. I get to just hang out and watch them have a good time.” (82:22)

Spiritual Animal Assignments & Algorithmic Realities (46:06–49:32)

• Gracie sees a “bumblebee” in Bowen, while Matt gets “sea lion,” and both call her “gazelle,” representing grace and cleverness.
• They explore social media algorithm serendipity and how it shapes what they see online (“or, or, or, or” – the sea lion noise on Reels).

Overstimulation, Weed, and the Perils of Modern Relaxation (50:00–53:41)

• All three share their changing relationships with cannabis and feeling overstimulated, especially in New York vs. London.
• “For some reason right now, it feels like a 50, 50 chance of it landing or really sending [me].” – Gracie (52:21)

Pop Girlies & Generational Solidarity (66:40–67:29)

• The hosts note Gracie’s place in a “cool class of pop girlies” all coming up together.
• Gracie: “I'm just happy to be here today. I love them.” (67:29)

Travel Etiquette: High Altitude, Low Decorum (89:47–91:12)

• Gracie’s ‘I Don’t Think So, Honey’ segment becomes a PSA on travel manners:
  • On barefoot flyers: “It fascinates me, the impulse when we're on a plane 30,000ft up… we're taking our socks all the way off.”
  • On nail clipping on planes and TSA tray etiquette: “You're making everyone uncomfortable…If you don’t put the tray back in the thing [after security], you’re a bad person…”

Book Talk & The Slog of Reading (86:57–88:32)

• Bowen’s gripe: “I want to read every damn book…but it takes a minute. It do take time.” (86:57)
• He’s stuck on Middlemarch; anecdote about Cynthia Erivo reading it in a week while filming Wicked.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Presence at Shows:
  “I'm not anti-phone. I'm pro-presence.” — Gracie (08:28)
• On Lorde:
  “She was having a show at the Fonda in LA. It was the first show I've ever seen where…the concept of potentially performing was like—that was the first time I was ever not, like, absolutely never.” (37:36)
• On Social Media & Emotion:
  “You're so overwhelmed with emotion. In the modern condition… you don’t know how to process it other than to record.” — Matt (09:01)
• On Reviews, Feet or Otherwise:
  “It doesn't matter what other people think, because my rating on WikiFeet is in the gutter. What? And I'm like, I don't care. This is actually dead wrong.” — Matt (18:01)
• On Streaming Self-Confidence:
  “When people review your album, they're like, it fucking sucks, but it's like, I had fun making it.” — Gracie (18:20)
• On Songwriting:
  “We just started laughing while we were strumming…the bar for us was lyrics that either felt so correct or made us laugh the hardest.” — Gracie (14:00)
• On Feeling Less as You Age:
  “Do you feel things less as you age?” — Gracie (49:55)
  “Totally. I think it’s one third my Lexapro dosage, one third memory loss…” — Matt (50:00)
• On Generation of Pop Stars:
  “You're part of like a cool class of pop girlies…all coming up and solidifying together at the same time in a generation.” — Bowen (67:19)
• On the Audacity of LA Concerts:
  “Why not lean in? Because you’re only enriching the experience if everyone’s kind of going nuts…Because touring is…most wholesome.” — Gracie (57:01)

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Other Highlights

• Maguita Perez Mania: Deep dive into the Girls TV episode, celebrating its specificity and meme-ability (34:25–36:09).
• Animals as Reflections: Assigning animal personas to each other brings out themes of grace, rivalry, and survival (46:10–49:32).
• Runaway Bits: Long-running jokes about Wikifeet bot farms, reacting to feet “in the room,” and using “Maguita Perez” and “ionic” as secret codewords to sneak into future interviews.
• Dining in London: Praise for favorite restaurants like “The Mountain” and “Dishoom,” and hopes for their arrival stateside (68:04–69:15).
• Encore of Affection: Gracie repeatedly expresses gratitude and joy for being on Las Culturistas, capping a recurring theme of creative and personal kinship.

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Important Timestamps

• 03:06 – sartorial synergy & queer narratives
• 05:56 – Gracie Abrams introduced
• 08:28 – Gracie on concert phones & presence
• 13:12–14:30 – writing songs with Audrey, friendship origin
• 15:18–20:45 – WikiFeet, foot insecurities, and online reviews
• 33:01 – “What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?”
• 37:36 – Gracie on the impact of Lorde & Pure Heroine
• 46:10–49:32 – animal spirits: bee, hummingbird, gazelle
• 50:00 – Adult overstimulation, weed, memory loss
• 57:01 – LA concerts, show energy, audience engagement
• 66:40–67:29 – “Cool class of pop girlies” solidarity
• 78:54–83:22 – album creation, live performance, producing with Aaron
• 86:48 – Bowen’s “I Don’t Think So Honey” on reading
• 89:47–91:12 – Gracie’s “I Don’t Think So Honey” on travel etiquette

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Tone & Style

The episode is playful, digressive, candid, and effusive, with all speakers effortlessly mixing depth and absurdity. There’s a natural, conspiratorial dynamic among the hosts and guest—blending insider pop culture references, earnest creative reflection, and running jokes about bodily awkwardness, pop stardom, and online oddities. Expect lots of laughter, affectionate ribbing, and spontaneous “rule of culture” proclamations.

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Episode Title

Locked-in by Gracie Abrams: "Everything Feet" (17:16)
(“You are spiraling with this man's voice in your head about everything feet.”)

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For Newcomers

If you haven’t heard Las Culturistas before, this episode is a quintessential entry point: full of referential pop culture banter, emotional sincerity, and the singular energy that comes from queer cultural consulting—with a heavy dash of foot talk.

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Final Quote:
“This podcast—what you guys make—is a big part of the, you know, joy of my every week. So thank you.” – Gracie Abrams (92:43)

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Listen for:

• Ultra-niche Girls references
• Sincere discussions about being present
• Outlandish, but tender, social media and foot anecdotes
• Pop music recommendations and process deep-dives
• The most spirited conversation about feet you’ll ever hear

Transcript

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Why the pregnant paws? Oh, wait, hold on. For podcasts or a visual medium. Matt and I, Synergistic again.

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It kind of keeps happening. So I come in today, and I think there's no way that Bowen is gonna wear A pop culture icon on his shirt today. Like I am. Cause I'm kinda giving my icon Mariah. And you walk in clad in Bruce Lee. Clad in it.

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And I have my thing with Bruce Lee, which is just someone who looms large, but I don't. Like, I'm finally gonna come out as, like, a Bruce Lee Stan. It's only in my bedroom, literally, you know, that I have that Italian poster of.

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This is a queer narrative.

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This is a queer narrative.

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It just existed in your bedroom as a child, and now it's roaring to life in public.

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Well, all these politicians out here saying, keep that in the bedroom to me directly.

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Yeah. And you finally defied them.

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Here I am. Look at this.

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I love this cut and color on you.

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Cut and color.

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Similar to the cut and color on our guests. We got a lot of primary action happening in here. This is the day I meet my pen pal. This is like when you meet, like, your pen pal from when you were young, but just adult version. I was gonna say, like, when you have, like. Cause, you know, when you were little, did they ever give you a pen pal from, like, a faraway school? Did you ever. Your program ever do this?

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Yeah, I want to say once or twice, but. So when I moved from Canada, all the kids wrote little postcards for me.

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Oh, that's so sweet.

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And then I think the first week we moved to Colorado, I was like, dad, where. Where are the postcards? He was like, I can't find them.

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And then shut the fuck up.

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Never read a script, of course.

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Yeah.

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Still think. Still thinking about it all these years later.

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You could cry now if you feel like there's still some left in the tank. Our guests would support it.

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Oh, yeah. I haven't hydrated enough today.

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Well, I think.

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No, no, no.

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You want some of our guests. Arctic Vibe, which is in a cup and looks sick like poison.

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This is why Celsius doesn't come in a clear container. Let's get into it.

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Let's really get into what we came here to talk about today, which is what Celsius looks like in a clear container. Certainly not the excellent third album. It's a step forward.

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It's the third album down, which was

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tough to do because we were already pretty forward, 100%. I went to that concert. Bodies were hitting the ground.

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Bodies?

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Bodies were hitting the ground. People were getting so overwhelmed. Bodies were hitting the ground.

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Well, you were saying these girls were, like, forming a circle, clutching each other.

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I've never seen anything like it. Girls grabbed hands and created, like, a Ring beautiful. And it didn't matter who else was there. It was their floor. And I was like, yes.

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Nothing in the circle.

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No.

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Then that's tough. Just their energy. Well, that's a lot of floor. That's a lot of area.

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If you wanted to get in there, you could have crawled under them. It just didn't feel right. It was their floor.

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I think you have something to say about that. You should address just taking up the area. Let's bring our guest in. She's incredible in every way. Everyone, welcome Gracie Abrams.

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Taking one more sip of arctic.

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Of arctic piss. Guys. This is the treat of my life to be here. And also, I don't want to speak. I just want to sit. You know those fever dream moments? I have to speak.

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You have to.

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How about this? You name the episode. Yes. No, later. No, I have to. Fine. How about this?

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Okay, well, whatever you say, it's your

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house, we'll say it. And only if you confirm it can it be great. Because I feel like you're going to be the vibe of saying the rules of culture with us today.

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Wow.

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And I want you to go.

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I mean, it's. I do it. I do it when I'm on the train in my headphones. Like, you'll say something and I will predict. And sometimes I'm surprised when you don't make something. Something wrong.

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Confirmed reader, I guess.

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Confirmed reader. Finalist. Finalist.

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Well, of course. Finalist.

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Cheers.

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Cheers. Can we say.

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Can we expose just how piss like this is?

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Absolutely. Wait, I wanna. I wanna bring something up right off the bat.

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Yes.

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I was at Jake Shane's house.

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Oh, was it the bag?

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It was not the bag. I saw the books that you gifted him.

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Yes.

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And I squealed and I go, of course Gracie fucking reads Eve Babbitt all day long.

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And you know what? Kya and I.

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Yes.

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And Kaya too, had a library science convers. Eve Babbitts and Joan Didion. And it was one of my, like, it was one of those moments where you're just relieved when people read.

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But.

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And I was. And I was relieved to gift Jake books.

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Yes.

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I.

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What's the relief? Where is that coming from?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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He will. He's. He's the. He was the first to say it. He was like, do you read? I was like, I do. Do you?

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And he was like, crazy.

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Yeah, a bit. And then he was like, I will read. I told him, I was like, I'm going to send you a. Like just the beginning of your library.

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Oh, that's a beautiful.

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And I wrote him anyway. And then he was like, I will read. Yeah. I was like, the title.

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No, I will read the back cover, the blurbs. I said, no, you should actually read. These are incredible first starter pack books.

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I'm glad you approved of them.

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Oh, yes. And I was like, jake, you would actually fucking love Eve Babbitts. Cause she's talking about.

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She's just talking about the culture. She's talking about the culture and the tone.

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Eve Babbitts. She's just talking about the culture. It's a rule of culture number two. Eve Babbitts. She's just talking about the culture. And you danced in. You danced in my good.

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It's so nice. It's so nice in this room.

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Thank you.

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With all of you.

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Well, our best friend Jared is here and he never comes and sits in, but he is one of your great fans.

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I've heard about you, Jared.

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We were there at your concert where the girls were. Were ringing, ringing around their. Rosie, do you see this from the stage? The behavior?

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And actually we were just talking about this like 10 minutes ago about the concept. Like, someone was like, oh, is there a mosh?

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And I was like, well, there is.

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I wouldn't. I don't know if I would use that. That word. I would.

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It's a sash. It's a soft mosh.

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A sash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is. You make a good point. Like, what's happening to that floor space?

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Nothing.

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Because they stay wide.

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Yes.

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Which I also am. Like, everybody takes their space.

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Absolutely.

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And it is theirs to. It is theirs to. They. They chose to be on the floor.

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Absolutely.

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So it's their floor.

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And you know what?

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No.

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Say our phones out. Our phones out.

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Oh, phones are out. My phone was out.

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I know. I'm pro. Put em down.

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You're pro. Put em down.

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I used to be.

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Well, I actually. I live on. I think I'm pro. Soak up the experience. Of course you went out of your way to be here. It's like you paid money to be here. If you wanna record every single second of it, I advocate for that too. I'm not anti phone. I'm pro presence.

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Yeah.

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So there's this book that's coming out called the Story of youf Life. I have not read it, but I'm seeing, like people who are getting galleys, like, talk about how this author, like, writes about how social media is whatever, blah, blah, blah, defining all of our lives, but specifically when it comes to pulling out your phone at a concert, this is why we do it. Are you ready?

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Yeah.

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It's because you're so overwhelmed with emotion. And in the modern. The modern condition is such that you don't know how to process and sit with the emotion, other than to take out your phone and record something. Cause I don't watch that stuff back.

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No, it's not.

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You never do. And also, the experience of other people watching it is never gonna be as good. I think it's a thing of, like, you are anticipating a moment so much, you think the number one thing to do is capture it.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. When what you really should do, what happens to me is I know this to be true. So I'll have my phone out, and I'll just capture, like, a boring part of any song so that I see the part that's worth capturing or whatever.

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Pulling my phone out is the curse for what I'm. Like, my goal is immediately gone. Like, there's no. There's no success rate. The absolutely lowest success rate.

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Yeah.

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Cause at a concert, you can't play the song again. And that's roller culture number three. At a concert, you can't play the

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song again unless you're Audrey Hobert and you do Sue Me twice.

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Does she do that?

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And you know what she does? Which, actually, maybe this isn't my information. Well, share it anyway. I went to the show.

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You went to the show. We all saw it.

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It's the best show. Have you guys seen her live yet?

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We did a show in LA for Katie Crutchfield and Darcy Carden, and now.

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Oh, yes. Oh, and I saw you guys singing together.

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Sang together.

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That was fun. Again. It's one of those things. It's like, I can't rank. Why, like, in order, what's the best thing about Audrey's rise? Yes, Selfishly, I think it's that I get to see more of my friend, like, on the Internet, doing things.

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Oh, that's cool.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Because when we're not in the same place, like, I got to just open Instagram, and you two are singing together on stage. What? I would like that in my fantasy, I'd be like. In my simulation, I'd be like, bowen and Audrey are now on stage together. You know what I mean?

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I feel like it is. This is. We are living in your simulation, kind of.

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Well, today we are, because I get to watch the two of you do your job.

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It's awesome.

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And you get to watch me drink piss.

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Yeah. Do you know. Do you know what's.

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Everyone's winning.

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What's what probably rocks most about the Audrey situation. And I think the Audrey situation title of it. The Audrey situation title of it. Well, I was going to say Stay wide, but I didn't want to be rude to everyone in the room. Crass title. Crass idea for a title. Stay wide.

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Stay wide.

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Anyways, moving on. I feel like it's that thing of when you just. You think that someone around you is really special.

[A]

Yeah.

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And then the world starts to confirm it.

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Yes.

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And you're like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, these things that I got to experience. Everyone's getting that same feeling. And that's fun.

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It's just. It's like I grew up with her voice in my head all the time, every day for 16 years. I'm just. I just. Now others get to have that. So I'm just like, we're all better off.

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Damn jealous, though.

[A]

You're jealous.

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You're a little jealous.

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I'm. Guys, I have a fuck on Redobert T shirt.

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Fuck off.

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It's the best thing. Also, also, I mean. And I never want to move on from this topic, but to see. I'm just so excited because she's doing festivals this summer. I'm like, can you imagine being at Lala? And then, like, can you imagine, like, being at Lala? And if you for some reason don't know who she is yet? And then you hear, like. And you're like, I'm gonna chase that.

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And also, the audience that's there is gonna be giving. It's gonna be a Chapel moment.

[C]

Well, I was gonna say, I think so. Because when Sumi first came out and the video came out, I was like, I feel like Matt was on Chapel from the jump.

[A]

I remember.

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I remember I wanted to say this on pod, but I felt too shy. Cause I feel like I'm not as prescient as you. But I was like, I think this Audrey Hobert girl is like, no, you

[B]

were always right about that also.

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But you've always. In my experience, you've always been supporting.

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Like, I support hardcore, for sure. For sure. But I'm also like, I'm not. I'm not going to be as. Like, I'm not going to. I'm not going to.

[A]

You're not being declarative.

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He didn't want to stick his neck out because what if something horrible was, God forbid, like a flop when a gay guy is wrong. Like a flop.

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Like a flop. Single.

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No. No way.

[A]

I don't think she's with that girl.

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No chance.

[A]

How many?

[C]

With 16 years but then has the process been the same when you guys have been writing together where it's like wine nights? Or is it. It's changed over time?

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Well, it's like we just lived together. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well. We. We just were. We were roommates.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And then we just started writing songs together, which is like such a weird all of a sudden one day. But I imagine with the two of you, what you make together, it was

[B]

probably not like a born out of friendship instead of like we have to create.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. There's no like sit down conversation. It's just like. And the both of us are there and we're already like. We just started laughing while we were strumming was the vibe and then it made it. That was like the bar for us of what we chose to keep in like lyrics that either felt so correct or made us laugh the hardest.

[B]

You said that about. That's so true too.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

That you guys were cracking up by the end of it.

[A]

Yes. And we have a song on this album as well that we wrote I think the same week that we did. That's so true. Which, like also made us giggle in that sense. You know what I mean?

[C]

What's the song on this album?

[A]

Minibar.

[B]

Yeah. No, mini bar is mini bars. Fab.

[A]

It's like zippy.

[C]

Yeah, it's zippy.

[A]

Well, she's just. It's like there's that. There's that. I feel like the shorthand of your best friend. And. And it's just so. Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Well, you don't realize.

[A]

I wish she was here and she is.

[B]

No, it is that thing where it's like, you don't think it's gonna translate and then it very much does. It's why I always wish that things are more specific and less broad. I mean, but we should say specifically. You guys are wearing the same goddamn shoe today.

[A]

Yeah. You have an amazing point.

[C]

I don't know. My arch is non existent. I think these might.

[A]

What do you mean non existent? Like, you're just flat.

[B]

You're currently arch.

[A]

I'm flat. I'm flat.

[C]

Really?

[B]

You Wait, can we.

[C]

Can we just gonna step on. I don't think so.

[A]

Honey, are we gonna step on it right now?

[C]

I feel like it sounds like you have some foot insecurity.

[A]

Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Sounds like.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

Oh, because of what I said? Because we can't.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Cause my ankles.

[C]

Cause ankles.

[B]

What's about ankles?

[A]

What's not about my ankles? I just Sometimes. But, yeah, let's make it personal. It's my ankles. I actually. I would love to talk about feet. I have a couple. Let's talk about feet. I have a few questions. Over New Year's, we were all.

[B]

So we were all there.

[C]

We were all there for New Year's.

[A]

Over New Year's, we were all talking about Wikifeet. That's a thing. And I had never explored that platform.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And many of our friends have explored it, which I was like, okay, totally. Anyway, news to me that there's ratings and there are comments. Okay. So I have in my mind wide feet. I just noticed this. Okay, everyone look.

[B]

Literally.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

This part bone to bone.

[B]

Well, honey, everyone's foot there.

[A]

I know it's the widest part of the foot in theory, but I have always felt this. And so I'm, for the first time in my life over New Year's this past year on WikiFeet with everyone, and I come across a comment.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

About my own. That this. This man wasn't writing from a place of, like, any fetish or, like, there was no sexual angle. It was as if she was a doctor going, like, I fear she might have, like, a bunion in her future.

[C]

You don't have a bunion, girl.

[A]

No, no, no.

[C]

Oh, and your future?

[A]

In my future. We don't know.

[B]

He's some sort of foot psychic and

[C]

you wish he had had more of a sexual fetishy sort of angle to it.

[A]

No, no, I definitely. I wasn't like, damn it.

[B]

But I was. Oh, no.

[A]

But I was then curious, like. And so. And so, having already noticed, when I put on heels that are, like, meant for, like, a lady, sometimes my foot feels too wide to go in that section. So anyway, basically, now I'm like, is he right? And then like. And then I wonder, like, is there something preventative that I could be doing?

[C]

I feel like I'm onto something.

[A]

Okay. My foot insecurity.

[C]

You are spiraling with this man's voice

[A]

in your head about everything feet.

[C]

About everything feet. And can I say, everything's in the

[B]

title of the title of ep. Thank you so much. You just locked it in. The title of EP is Everything Feet.

[A]

That guy's gonna love it.

[B]

Of course,

[C]

I will say I feel like I have some of the most beautiful feet in the history of man.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

To have fun.

[A]

I'm not gonna ask you to show em, but I will find you on Wikifeet. I'm gonna find you.

[B]

We're gonna Climb it.

[A]

Have you looked up your score?

[B]

Of course I've looked on it. I'm one of those freaks.

[A]

One of our friends. She was so proud about being the highest ranking member of the Foot in the group.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That.

[B]

Like, you're too proud. You said you're too proud.

[A]

And I was like. But I would also probably react that if there weren't doctors in my.

[C]

If there were doctors in my forum. Sure. But I think the way I feel about my feet is I need to apply this. It needs to be writ large in terms of my whole life where I'm like, oh, it doesn't matter what other people think, because my rating on Wikifeet is in the gutter. What? And I'm like, I don't care. This is actually dead wrong.

[A]

When people review your album, they're like, it fucking sucks, but it's like, I had fun making it.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

It's not even that you had fun making it. It's that, you know it's good.

[A]

Yeah. You know, it's a part of your soul.

[B]

Well, I don't know. I feel like my feet are. They're. They're treating. If wicked feet is pitchfork, they're treating my feet like it's like it's Fiona Apple. Because, like, I have a very high rating. And I have to tell you, I would not describe my feet as Fiona Apple coated. I think my feet are perfect 10. No. Everyone who sees my feet are just like, put those away.

[A]

What do you mean?

[C]

Wait, hold on.

[B]

My friend Dave calls them the stakes. Jared.

[A]

Jared.

[C]

What do you think?

[A]

You hate them.

[B]

They're bad. They're not good.

[A]

Why describe.

[B]

I'm gonna be very vulnerable.

[A]

Okay, well, finally. I've been, like, talking about my. Like, you're like burgeoning onions and my.

[B]

A few years ago, I made the fatal. The fatal mistake of. Yes. Showering at the Hollywood equinox with no shoes on.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

This is actually a part of my. Later.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Anyway, please.

[B]

As a result, I got athlete's foot, and it really wasn't good there for a little while. And to the point where, like, it had to be. Like, I had to. I had Start a relationship with.

[A]

Shaking his head off.

[B]

He can't believe I'm this candid on the pod.

[A]

Was it visually a thing or just.

[B]

Let's just say I was surprised to see my Wikifeet rating so high.

[A]

Jesus.

[B]

I know.

[A]

How long does that last?

[B]

It lasts as long as you let it.

[A]

Is it a topical situation, like cream?

[B]

Yes, it is. It's very treatable. Very curable.

[C]

It's on this foot.

[B]

It's on.

[A]

I was like, where is it?

[B]

No, no, no, no. It was on both feet, you guys.

[C]

Oh, I see.

[B]

That's how fungus works.

[C]

But here's the thing about feet, though.

[A]

I love topical cream.

[C]

I love topical creams, for sure.

[A]

Me, too.

[B]

I love topical cream.

[C]

But do they work?

[A]

I don't know. It's always, like, results in better over time.

[B]

It's like, results in time. Results in time. You will see results in time. It's actually roller culture number nine. You will see results in time. Hey, did you just have a breakup? Honey? Time. Honey, you're gonna love time.

[A]

Athlete's foot time.

[B]

Honey. Baby. Oh, baby. Time.

[C]

Time.

[B]

The prescription is time.

[C]

I think if someone were to. If you were to. If Jared were to describe why Matt's feet are bad, qualitatively, you would.

[B]

And I thought we were floating away from it.

[C]

Why they're bad. I think this should be the topic of the whole episode.

[B]

Feet, feet, feet, everything.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys haven't done that before. And I know because I listen.

[B]

Well, you know, the only other time we did that was when IO Edebridi was on a few years ago, and we talked only about Omarosa.

[A]

Okay. Incredible.

[B]

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Are you hitting up theater while you're into. You're not in theater.

[A]

I am not. I wish I was here any longer than I am.

[C]

Speaking of writing.

[A]

Yeah, speaking of writing, what are you?

[C]

I want to know what y' all you two are writing about because you're such beautiful pen pals, you and Matt.

[B]

Oh, my God. We check in and catch up.

[A]

We check in. Kind of like I check in with you more than any that I've known intimately for years.

[B]

Well, it's because I feel. I do. And I'm just gonna say this. I do feel connected to you over the very.

[A]

Like, this is not our first life together.

[B]

I really. I was like. They were like, okay, well, Gracie's ready to come in. And I was like, I'm not meeting her on the cameras.

[A]

Yeah, not on camera.

[B]

I'm walking in there. Cause I saw you guys do a TikTok together at SNL.

[A]

I immediately dropped to my knees. I'm like, sorry to everyone else in the room. Sorry.

[C]

That's beautiful.

[B]

Well, I found out that you even liked our show when warm. No, I love you. Anyway, I thought that you liked our show when you saw Hannah Einbinder on it and she cried. Delicious at the top.

[A]

Yeah, I. I wish I were capable of accessing, like, tears like that. I. I mean, I could go there. I could go there. What about in your upcoming My Bunion, potentially?

[B]

Will you have to cry in your upcoming film debut?

[A]

Oh, shit.

[B]

Oh, shit. We asked.

[A]

I'm gonna just drink my.

[C]

Imagine.

[B]

Say nothing.

[A]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

What can I say? Well, have you seen Halyna's previous work?

[B]

We're fans of Helena's work.

[A]

She would be incredible on this podcast because she is just the most. Have you met her?

[B]

No, but I've heard that she is a very vivid character.

[A]

100%.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's really an amazing person. And I just. Whenever she speaks about anything, I'm like, give her the mic.

[B]

I've been waiting for you to get on camera in an acting way. Have you? I do feel you are a superstar.

[A]

Well, that's generous.

[B]

And you got it.

[A]

Well, I will take that from you because it's Helena, babe. It's Helena. It's Helena. She is. She is. When I. When I read the script that she wrote, I was like, what the fuck? And she sent it to me, just being like, would you ever want to read it? And I was like, not thinking she was asking me to read it in the sense of, like, you want to read it?

[B]

There's always a ulterior motive.

[A]

But I just loved her. We got breakfast three years ago once. Cause a friend connected us. And it was similarly to. I was like, I've known you. I've known you before. And then. And then the next time we communicated was when she sent me the script.

[B]

How are you with milk? There's a lot of milk on her sets, actually.

[A]

Oh, actually, there is milk. Actually, there's milk in the film, guys. So many glasses of tall, tall milk.

[B]

Every Helena movie, I just put milk everywhere. Now as an Easter egg.

[A]

No more glasses of milk as far as I'm concerned.

[B]

But maybe.

[A]

Maybe the set designer will like. Yeah, just piss.

[B]

Celsius around.

[A]

There might be piss.

[C]

Here's a tip on crying. I don't think this has worked on me.

[A]

Yes, tell.

[C]

Imagine there's a column within you.

[A]

A column.

[C]

A column, whatever. Ionic, Corinthian. I don't even know what the other columns are.

[B]

Do you know the difference between Ionic and Corinthian columns?

[A]

I'm gonna. If you're gonna give more context, I might be able to use context clues.

[C]

Just a column.

[B]

I believe Corinthian have the lines straight down.

[A]

Oh, of course. I'm so sorry.

[B]

I'm so sorry.

[A]

Yes, of course. But what was the first one you said?

[C]

Ionic.

[B]

Ionic.

[A]

What is an ionic?

[C]

Ionic just has, like, the scroll. The scroll at the top still has lines, but then Corinthian has, like, these embellishments, like these natural embellishments.

[A]

Okay, heard.

[C]

Just imagine a column within you collapsing.

[A]

That gets you. Okay, ready, everyone? No, I actually can't.

[B]

Well, I'm already at a dog dying.

[A]

Wait, that's just like.

[B]

I went right to my reliable place.

[A]

I saw. I've been sort of starting to. On my reels. Reels is my all. Yeah, yeah, same. And it's great.

[B]

It's so good way. I'm guilt free.

[A]

Yeah, I bet.

[B]

I bet.

[A]

I've been starting to get like, I will dwell, like, just long enough. On clips of certain. I will dwell long enough.

[C]

You will dwell long enough.

[B]

And then the algorithm thinks, well, she's dwelling. Well, our girl is dwelling on this one. So keep feeding. So it's.

[A]

Yes, of course. The way the algorithm feels. And then it'll give me these beautiful old women talking about how they make themselves cry. And I will. Just me in my room. I've been doing that the end of these long days. I'm like, go there and do you sometimes.

[B]

Oh, in the mirror. You're always the best.

[A]

Am I getting misty? Yeah, I know.

[B]

No, literally, I bet by the end of this, we will.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. And you bit your lip, too, looking at it.

[A]

Not for nothing, imagine the most devastating scene.

[B]

I'm like,

[C]

that's seductive.

[B]

I feel affected.

[C]

Mary.

[A]

Fuck.

[C]

Kill reels shorts. TikTok

[A]

reels shorts. I don't. Well, I have it.

[C]

I have it.

[A]

Kill shorts. Wait, sorry. It also take you YouTube.

[B]

I fuck shorts. And I do.

[A]

You do. I've never been on Twitter. I have. I have never.

[B]

It's never.

[A]

Yeah, never watch a short. Well, kill TikTok. And also, by the way. Well, I'll. Y' all go.

[C]

And then I'll kill tech talk.

[B]

I'm.

[C]

I'm marrying shorts because it's usually like recipes and wholesome stuff.

[A]

I've never been on shorts. Are you on your phone?

[B]

Shorts were handy to you like everything

[C]

else gets, because this is how the algorithm works too. It's just. Here's a short.

[A]

Wait, but. Wait, but no, but I've never. I've never been fed a short.

[B]

Do you go on YouTube for fun?

[A]

Like, never been fed a short.

[B]

I've never been fetished.

[A]

Seriously, where you go on YouTube and

[B]

you kind of on your phone.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You just kind of do the thing. I can't explain either how short they basically do.

[C]

No, if you go on YouTube for anything.

[A]

Yeah, but if you click out of

[C]

a video, there's gonna be a whole above the fold. They say in web design, they have like a. They have like a row of shorts that are just like little clipped videos.

[B]

You're watching shorts and you don't even know it.

[C]

You don't even know you're watching short shorts.

[A]

Are they horizontal?

[C]

Nope.

[B]

No, they're verts.

[A]

So I'm not.

[B]

Can I tell you what I learned about yesterday? Vertical integration.

[C]

Yes, but that's a different vertical.

[B]

Oh, right.

[C]

It's like you're integrating your verticals.

[B]

Vertical integration. I cry because of this topic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so we have to ask you the central question of our podcast. And I. I just know you came with an. With an answer. Perfect answer. I had Gracie Abrams. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Ultimately.

[A]

Ultimately, it was pure heroin.

[B]

Oh, my God. Ultimately, it was my favorite of the offerings.

[A]

It was. And then I was like, was it Magita Perez? And then, like, truly maguita.

[C]

Are you kidding me? No.

[A]

I was like, was it Magu Perez? Because also, like, forget the Marnie of it all. I'm screaming like that. And then I was gonna say Maguita Perez. And then I was also thinking, like, beach house episode, the last two shots where they've had the blow up and they. But the non verbal Marnie comes into the kitchen and they're all cleaning and they're not speaking. And then they're still not speaking. And it's. They're doing the. And I was like, that is. I grew up. Me, Audrey, Leela, and Clem are our four. That, like, when I watched Girls when it came out, and I was, like, too young. And it, like, helped inspire all of the kind of. You know, it's like, why, like, Adam Driver as a whole, you're sort of like. Like, you wonder as an adult why certain things are like, yeah.

[B]

You're kind of like, why?

[A]

And I'm like, oh. Cause I was 12.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

A bit young, watching those dynamics.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

Of course.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But whatever.

[A]

But whatever. And anyway. And then. So I was. So, anyway, so I was thinking those Magita. I just.

[B]

What about Magita?

[C]

That interaction.

[A]

That interaction. I felt like you just see her. You also. She's like. She backs herself.

[B]

She backs she immediately.

[A]

And that smile on her face when she walks away with $600 is the biggest smile you see on Marnie's face. Except for when Desi's proposing to her.

[C]

When Desi's. Oh, my God.

[A]

And when. Also when. Yeah. Anyway, we could go on, by the way. It's pure heroin.

[C]

It's pure heroin.

[B]

But hold on.

[C]

Before we go back to pure heroin.

[A]

Exmagita Perez.

[B]

Exmaga Perez. No, that is it.

[C]

I've never been more shook.

[B]

On this podcast, he only ever wants to talk about Maguita. No, I. Yeah, I'm thinking about Maguita

[C]

Perez like, once a week.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you kidding me?

[B]

Allison? I think about. Alison is gonna be in jail.

[A]

We were in the car here, and I was like. I had this, like, impulse to not change my handle on Instagram, but just change my name to Magita Perez.

[B]

That would be really strong. Just do it for 48 hours, 24.

[A]

Yeah, right. It's like part of album promo, part of album wide.

[B]

Everyone freaks out. Like, pop crave is like, who is there Is probably a track called Maguita Pere.

[A]

Yeah. Is Maguita on the album?

[C]

You have to wear the dress.

[A]

You have to wear the red halter.

[C]

The red halter. Oh, my God.

[A]

When she goes the slit up the front.

[C]

But the way she says, maguita Perez, and who are you?

[A]

But she doesn't Maguita, period.

[C]

There's a little roll on the arm. Maguita Perez. What would she say? I'd be fine if I go about

[A]

the 10, 200 extra if I'm going above the 10th floor.

[C]

And then she tucks her hair behind her Ear she goes, I have a fear of heights.

[A]

I have a fear of heights. Yeah. She's an icon.

[B]

That's like 200 extra if I go above the 10th floor. Like, she has some, like, fear that they can pay for.

[A]

It's incredible.

[B]

Wait, there's.

[A]

But there's two. There's two. She gets.

[C]

There's another fee.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's the other fee above the 10th floor? Oh, dress rental.

[B]

The dress rental. Oh, my God.

[C]

Oh, my God. Dress rental on 100. Unless you want me to come in my jeans.

[B]

Yes, that's what you got. Wait, can I point out, you're sort of in Magita red. Magita red of came dressed today in magica Red Red.

[A]

Dad

[B]

way Panton.

[A]

Pantone color of the year. Anyway. But it was pure heroin.

[C]

Okay, let's talk about pure heroin. Wow.

[B]

I also have formative experience with it. It's when I, with Magita, started smoking weed and coffee.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So. Okay, talk about it.

[A]

Well, I felt like there's lots to say. The. I feel like there are these moments, you know, like Bjork and Kate Bush and, like, Rosalia subverting pop and just redefining it. And I felt, you know, Lorde, who has since become such a dear friend. And so all of these memories are so hysterical and even more important than they were then, because I get to, like, love her so much for the quality of human being that she is. She was, like, a couple years older than me, and I was 14 when pure heroine came out. And that week that it came out, she was having a show at the Fonda in la.

[B]

So cool to see her there.

[A]

And I went and it was the first show I've ever seen where, like, the concept of potentially performing was like. That was the first time I was ever. Not, like, absolutely never, because that's what

[C]

it was before that.

[A]

No, that's what it was like forever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But seeing her know herself and also just be up there and command the crowd and not have, like, this flashy. It was just her. She was. She had her, like, long, curly black hair, and she was wearing this huge, like, it felt like a cape. Like this long black dress. And it was just her. And it just blew my mind and rocked my world. And I feel like that's always stuck with me in that same way.

[C]

Of course, because we were in college when royals came out. I remember this. I was living in Crown Heights. I was like, I don't know what my life is. I gotta figure this out. I, like, pulled out of med school applications. I was like, how to really rethink things. But something about pure heroine, like, soundtracked.

[B]

I think it timestamp, but I think

[C]

it timestamps everyone's life within a certain age bracket or whatever in terms of whatever you were going through. It's pure heroin. It's all. It's like, agree.

[A]

And I loved how dark it was.

[C]

Yep, yep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think when you're like a Tumblr middle schooler and it just was. It was exactly perfect. It was exactly perfect.

[B]

I'll never forget, like, really listening to 400 Lux and I was like, how old is she? It really didn't make any sense. And all those sounds were kind of new.

[A]

800.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's pretty wild.

[A]

She's like an owl inside.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Her beautiful body.

[B]

There was just something that was so, like. Yeah, that was when I. In West Village. This was it for me. West Village, in my tiny apartment, smoking weed for the first time and walking around the West Village, like, we're getting good at this. Yes, exactly. And like, I was just like, the girl is 14 years old and I'm vibing out.

[A]

Totally. But also I felt like I. Because she. She. I think she's, like two years older than me. And I was like. I feel like there was. That was just the time where I was, like, really yearning to, like, break free.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? And that album makes you want to, like, experience. Just makes you want to leave.

[B]

Yeah. Go somewhere else.

[A]

And I. I didn't have my license yet.

[B]

And all this.

[A]

It would be like long walks. Yeah, exactly. Our exit music.

[B]

Oh, that's good for later.

[A]

You guys have so many great segments on this show.

[B]

Can I tell you, that's shocking to hear because they literally sat us down the first day we ever had the podcast and was like, oh, before we record, you guys should probably have segments. And we were like, oh, oh, wow.

[C]

I don't think so, honey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you come up with it on the spot?

[B]

We were like, something we used to say to each other.

[A]

Are you still working with those people?

[B]

Which person?

[C]

No.

[A]

So don't you feel kind of.

[C]

But the beautiful thing about the podcast is that as much as people say otherwise, it really hasn't changed. Like, formally, it's been the same.

[B]

He starts to impress.

[A]

What year is this?

[B]

You know, the beautiful thing about the podcast is really DNA is really the same as it was.

[A]

Are we on Peacock?

[B]

Are we on a radio show?

[A]

We're on a radio show, but how long has it been now that you've.

[C]

10 years.

[A]

What the hell?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When did you first hear that we were a podcast?

[A]

I mean, it's like always been in my heart. It's one of those things though, truly, where I actually. You know, when you can't remember a time before something totally.

[C]

Aww.

[B]

That's sort of like. So first was Lorde. Then a few years later, we decided to just do the podcast.

[C]

It's true.

[B]

I think if there's no pure heroin, there's no lost culture.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Cause I never started smoking weed then.

[A]

Exactly. And that is the link. That is the link between everything.

[C]

Between everything. Wait, what's your favorite song on the album?

[B]

Yeah. Come on.

[A]

I think Ribs.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Kind of a classic.

[A]

I think it just like, that's the one I would choose to still. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I also think it's like I loved her last album so much. And also, again, I feel like all of her albums, they came at the exact correct time. And this one last year came out the first day of Glastonbury or no. Yeah, the Friday of Glastonbury.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we were in the mud. We were. I wish it was muddy. We didn't go to mud. People, like, people were so stoked. It was that. That was my first one. And we were playing Friday night at like 7:30. It was like the. It was the best weekend of my life. But her album came out that morning and she had a surprise show and I wasn't on festival grounds yet, but I sat and I got ready to go listening to her album and it was just. It's the exact same feeling. It feels like you're like being like plugged into your life.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, that's a great way. Way to put it.

[A]

I just love her.

[B]

Have you guys. She actually was supposed to come in and then we had to reschedule or it just didn't end up happening for that cycle. But she's been floating around the pod for a while.

[A]

She's just the coolest.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's so cool.

[C]

Yeah.

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[A]

You.

[C]

You speak of a lot of people who.

[A]

You.

[C]

Whom you love in terms of, like a past life, maybe, huh? Not that you're saying about this. About. About Lord, but It's like she's 800 years old. There's an owl inside her.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like. Like there's something spiritual.

[B]

Do you see? See the animals in everyone.

[C]

Do you see? Yes.

[B]

And who are we?

[A]

That's beautiful.

[B]

See the animals in us.

[A]

Ooh. You are reminding me of a bumblebee.

[B]

Oh, I have never heard that.

[A]

You are.

[B]

I've heard seal and I've heard every. Bad dinosaur.

[A]

What the hell?

[B]

Bad dinosaur. I think I have a lot of friends that want to knock me down. Yeah.

[C]

Sea lion for sure. And I see the sea lion content is coming up on your reels now too.

[B]

It is. A lot of times I'll be on reels now and I. And I'll just flick, flick, flick, and

[A]

then I'll say, or, or, or, or.

[B]

And I'm like, they know it's me.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't. I hate when it's the videos of them in an institution.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Well, okay. So then I posted this one great

[A]

video, which is a rehabilitation center. And I understand, and I think that's

[B]

what it was because someone did get in my DMs, and I. I did clock that everything else before they had said was also nasty. But they were like, why are you posting this? This captivated animal? I'm like, okay. I. I really just loved his energy.

[A]

Yeah. Everyone's so eager.

[C]

This is. This is.

[B]

This is the thing about real fuck on the Internet.

[A]

It's not ending.

[C]

No, we have to. We have to. Contact tip touch, touch, toe touch.

[B]

God, my converse really ruins the vibe.

[C]

I shouldn't have worn socks today.

[A]

No, no, no, no. You should have. I should have too.

[C]

But now I don't want to wear. I don't want to show my ankles because you're going to make fun of them.

[A]

No, no, no, no. You should. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Don, wait. No, they're gonna smell.

[B]

Oh, no, wait. Now I'm self conscious. Wait.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

You throwing this on. Becca's freaking out. No.

[A]

Now go in there. You have perfect Feet.

[C]

Well, not now.

[B]

After a petty. Sorry, that was technical.

[C]

Hold on. No, no, no, no. I'll do this. No sock.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

Matt leans over, rips my shoes off. Both of them. Perfect feet.

[C]

Perfect feet.

[A]

Perfect feet. I'm in fact gonna get on wikifeet, make a profile, then rate me. Rate Rowan. 11 out of 10.

[B]

I think it's better with the sock.

[A]

It's better with the sock. And no one look at me.

[C]

If you went home and there was like a bot farm, that would be so funny. And if you just had a million

[A]

phones in a row. Yeah. You're saying block. Racy. Abram. Trust me.

[B]

Trust. Trust me.

[A]

Trust me. Running the bot farm, that would be. That would be fun.

[C]

Wait, wait.

[A]

And you're a hummingbird to me. Sorry.

[B]

A bee and a hummingbird. Aren't we rivals?

[C]

We're rivals in the fields.

[A]

What are you.

[B]

I just feel like a bee and a hummingbird. They do a lot of the same stuff.

[C]

We're both going for the flower.

[A]

But maybe they're pecking order, though, in the. Is it.

[B]

I think. Well, I guess it would depend what kind of bee. Because there's of course the queen bee, who's the top head honcho.

[A]

Would you like that?

[B]

The worker bees.

[A]

You seem connected to the worker bee.

[B]

No, I just kind of. I want some worker bees.

[A]

Oh, you lies.

[C]

What's Gracie. What's Gracie?

[A]

No pressure.

[C]

Well, I have one. Gazelle.

[B]

I was gonna say gazelle.

[A]

Really? Well.

[B]

Cause you're a gazelle. It's not that weird that we both said it.

[A]

What does that.

[B]

Graceful, elegant, earthy one that is inspiring to the other grassland animals to leap higher, faster, stronger.

[C]

Yes, earthy, but can ascend.

[A]

Thank you, that's very nice.

[B]

One who the lions are trying to get, but they're often not quick enough because they're thinking one step ahead of these lions. Famously, gazelles absolutely never get attacked by lions. It just doesn't happen because they're so much smarter and quicker.

[A]

It's like every day dock is like them getting their necks, like, ripped out.

[B]

Well, the lions are the bots.

[A]

I'm like, trust.

[B]

The lions are the bots.

[A]

We cannot give them that much power.

[B]

Fame is a God.

[A]

Bots cannot be.

[B]

No, no. They're hyenas.

[A]

They're vultures.

[B]

They're vultures.

[C]

And we're not dead yet.

[A]

And we're not dead yet.

[B]

I mean, fly somewhere else, you freaks.

[A]

Yeah, whatever.

[C]

The thing about Taylor, when she goes. I have a very strong opinion that when you are young, you just Feel things more intensely. I'm like, that. That is t. Do you.

[A]

Do you feel like you feel things

[B]

less as you age?

[C]

Totally.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it because there's fewer new feelings? Or why? Or. Cause. Is it perspective and. Right sizing?

[B]

I think it's one third my Lexapro dosage. I think it's 1/3 what you said, and I think it's one third

[C]

memory loss.

[A]

Yeah, that's the dream recipe. Honestly, Just what the doctor ordered.

[B]

I didn't even think of memory loss. Cause I forgot it.

[A]

I literally have that.

[B]

No, you don't.

[A]

You guys.

[B]

Are you a stoner?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Okay, so maybe.

[A]

And I'm actually like. I'm right now in a period of, like. Compared to before times, basically. No, compared to before times.

[C]

Cause there's a lyric on the album where you're like, the weed from when we were 17 is, like, catching up to us. I'm not butchering it.

[A]

No, no, no. That's basically it.

[C]

So what are you getting at?

[A]

The lyric that comes before that is. My brain half melted down. So for.

[B]

Well, don't buy weed on the street in New York City.

[A]

Well, I think New York weed is just a nightmare.

[B]

It's evil.

[A]

I also have a feeling that unless you're, like, with the exact right person in the exact right room, weed in New York, period, regardless of where you got it, can also be, like, insidious.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

And I think it's because I've been getting overstimulated recently in a new way that I feel. And then I was like, that's embarrassing, and that's my fault. That's no one's fault. That's like, I should just know myself now.

[C]

Overstimulated. Oh, wait. Don't.

[B]

Don't be bashful. Don't you dare do that. Film acting towards us. Oh, my gosh. Here's the thing. I don't know a bigger stoner than that person over there, Jared Frieder. And he smokes my weed, and he has to lay down, and he says,

[A]

you're crazy because it's so, so heavy.

[B]

I. I feel sad about. I go in there and I'm like. And I'm like, I guess I'm just looking for some pre rolls. And they're like, well, what do you want? What do you have that's ruled? And they're like, oh, you're gonna love this stuff, man. I don't know why I'm talking like a monster truck driver, but that's the energy.

[A]

Scary place.

[B]

To ego. Ventura Boulevard no, there is one there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I live next door to it.

[A]

Are you guys stoners at the moment? Yeah. I know, I know. But what is that? Is that. Because that's the only way I relax. Daily o'.

[C]

Clock. I was going to yesterday last night, and I was like, I'm going to not. And that was totally fine. I got a raw dog at More.

[A]

Yes. I think what I've been learning recently is that there's, for some reason right now, it feels like a 50, 50 chance of it landing or really sending the.

[C]

Well, when you say you get overstimulated, is that when you're not stoned or when you're. When you're so bruh. That you're like, oh, I need it.

[A]

Sobra. I feel like this particular, like, month, there's just lots to be engaging with. It's just like. And it doesn't even. Not in a. I just. It feels like I want to be ready.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And I think that. That I'm impaired when I'm impaired, right?

[B]

No, 100%, I guess for me. Sometimes when I'm high, I think just

[A]

enough and I'm kind of like pretty high. I think when I'm high, I'm actually high. And I. So it just is a little bit iffy these days. But then I have this fantasy of, you know, like an evening that starts at 4pm and then the next day isn't. No obligations. That would be. You know what I mean?

[B]

That would be wonderful.

[C]

Wonderful.

[A]

Also living. Not here anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I don't at all in London, so.

[B]

Because they don't allow it.

[A]

Yeah. And I. I think, like, if we think New York weed is scary, like, I. I don't know. I don't know what's even going on. And I just haven't engaged. And of course, pub culture, they're like. You're like, it's bright outside. Have a drink. And then they're like, it's dark outside. Have a drink. You're like, whoa.

[B]

I'm so jealous of London. Because they're getting a universe. Universal Studios. What? Oh, yeah. Congrats.

[A]

You love that stuff.

[B]

Yeah. Love. Let's go right now.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Let's fly down, play Pure heroine's gonna do an amazing.

[A]

We're leaving. Straight to Universal. Did. What was your last. Because they also love. Seemingly love you.

[B]

We love more than you love them. So I think London. No, no, the Universal Studios. London likes London. Likes us too.

[C]

No, we. No. And. And we love London.

[B]

I'm doing my Christmas show. Show in London this year.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I'm gonna go there.

[A]

When?

[B]

Islington Hall. Islington Hall. Islington Hall.

[A]

We played there. And I. And I got tattoos the day we played. Lots of. I got tattoos the day we played that in venue. I have such a long list for you.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yay. And also. And also, you have to come over.

[B]

I know. Will you be around in November? Actually, wait, 11-5-18th. No. Oh, come on. Please cancel the stream. The team is like, you're not around, mama.

[A]

Oh, wait. November?

[B]

Yeah. What is it?

[A]

We're in rehearsals.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Well, I think this is coming out after we've announced the tour, so we can just say that's what we're whispering

[A]

about in rehearsals for tour. Maybe I'll quit the tour.

[B]

By the way, we are and just

[A]

come to your show.

[B]

We spoke earlier about the crowd happening. I also want to say your performance was fucking great.

[A]

That was so generous of you to be there. And I vaguely recall.

[B]

Can we say what happened? Yeah.

[A]

I was gonna say, I vaguely recall there was no ticket for you.

[B]

I get there, I'm excited to see Gracie.

[A]

I. Hi.

[B]

I think I'm on the list.

[A]

And also, of course, I wasn't on my fucking phone till after the show.

[B]

So then, of course, you were pretty excited.

[A]

I'm like, check my phone. And Matt's like, hey, I'm outside. And I'm like, I'm gonna kill myself.

[B]

No, no, no. So I ended up buying a ticket and me, Jared, and our friend were there, and it ended up being exactly what needed to happen.

[A]

I'm so sorry.

[B]

No, I needed. Yeah, he already had his ticket.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I was gonna be like. I was gonna be at that seat kind of by myself, and then they were like, oh, okay. Well, we just bought tickets. I was like, I'm buying a ticket. Went in the pit and there so

[A]

that you could see the.

[B]

So I can interact with all my friends.

[A]

I. LA shows are very weird.

[C]

How come?

[A]

Well, I think a couple things. I think every tour in the history of the world comes through la.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

So I think there's like a kind of.

[B]

They're just not that excited about live shows. I always start my. My tour there because I'm like, I don't want to come here later and then be like, what happened? Am I worse than I just was?

[A]

Totally. I think. I think also because I grew up there, I always have a fondness, which helps make up for the anticipation of it being less vibrant sometimes in the crowd. But my curiosity for those who attend Shows in LA is. Why not lean in? Because you're only enriching the experience if everyone's kind of going nuts. Of course, for anyone else who's. Not me. Not me. I'm not saying. I'm just like, do you know, like, the. The like. Because touring is, like, the least cynical, like, most wholesome, like. Like going to a show, seeing anything live. It's like you're spending money, spending energy. You're getting dressed up. You're making a plan with friends, probably. Or you're even braver going alone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like you're singing with strangers.

[B]

It's my favorite experience. And I will say I've seen incredible shows in la. Mostly they happen at the the Greek.

[A]

I love the Greek.

[B]

She's the best.

[A]

I love the Greek.

[B]

We had, like, a Greek era, Jared and I. Have you been to the Greek Bow, like, and seen a show at the Greek?

[C]

Never.

[A]

Oh, really?

[C]

I don't think I've ever. I was. My first LA concert, maybe was gonna be.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

Was Lily Allen.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, we saw Lily.

[C]

That was in la where we did

[B]

the Culture Awards last year.

[C]

I was gonna go. I was gonna go with Garrett McCray one day.

[B]

Oh, that would have been fun.

[A]

MSG.

[C]

No. Adam.

[A]

Oh, at the Greek.

[C]

At the Forum.

[A]

Oh, at the Forum. Anyway, whatever.

[B]

We saw Maggie Rogers at the Greek. We saw Casey Muskers at the Greek. Moon I've seen twice. Oh, my God. Imogen Heap.

[A]

Did she glove.

[B]

It was really cool. That might have been the first concert we saw together. Imogen Heap. Honestly, like, so not to shit on LA shows, because there are so many.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Like, special moments that happen.

[A]

No, also, it's like, I really. I have such a fondness, and it is. It's crazy to get to play shows there, period. Because there are venues that I, like, grew up going to, you know, so I know them well.

[B]

You haven't done Coachella, have you? No, I want that.

[A]

I want that.

[B]

But she's saying nothing but touching feet.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

I was wanting to ask.

[A]

That's our Easter egg throughout the whole episode, every time. Like, just see if they pick up.

[B]

So the readers are noting that they touched feet at several different points during the episode. I feel like. What? Because we went there and I feel like there's an attitude amongst artists that, like, weekend one of Coachella is bad and weekend two of Coachella is good. Is that a thing you can confirm that artists talk about?

[A]

I have heard that in the discourse. Just probably exactly as much as you have. But I wonder if it's about ripping

[C]

the band, breaking the seal.

[A]

Yeah, maybe. Or, like, I'm like, are there more? Like, I was gonna ask, Are there more Activations Weekend one that you are like, eye roll.

[B]

They are aplenty.

[A]

Yeah, they are aplenty. I haven't been to Coachella in a long time. I went in high school, and it was so fun. And then this past summer, Glastonbury was our first of the festival run, and it has ruined everything for me, I bet. Have you done it?

[B]

No.

[A]

You guys, it's the best. I can't even begin to.

[C]

I think UK festivals, I mean, we only have one Data Point, which was Mighty Hoopla.

[B]

So fun.

[C]

It's the gay one.

[B]

It's the queer one.

[A]

It's an incredible name.

[B]

It's so funny.

[C]

And it was.

[A]

Where is.

[C]

That's like. Oh, my God, it's on. It's. Oh, it's a neighborhood down Neighborhood down

[B]

Neighborhood down It's a neighborhood down well, it's in a neighborhood Neighborhood down.

[C]

Couldn't tell you what. Wait, when are they gonna get Percy pigs to the States? Let's.

[A]

Do you love them so much?

[C]

So much.

[A]

I like them, too.

[C]

Okay, well, then you don't care.

[A]

I think they're so common these days.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, she loves Skittles. Do you have a favorite candy? I'm like, this is the question we ask every guest.

[A]

What was the candy that made you say.

[B]

What was the candy that made you say candy was for you?

[A]

What's my favorite candy at Reese's Pieces?

[C]

Come on, that's chocolatey.

[A]

It's barely chocolate, girl.

[B]

Pick a candy or else.

[A]

Well, I ate. I ate a candy yesterday, which was. Which was a sour pickle belt.

[C]

What?

[A]

What the.

[B]

Who is she?

[A]

She's so good. Wait, what's up with you guys in your personals?

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

She didn't want to talk about candy anymore.

[A]

No, I mean, all day, but.

[B]

No, for real.

[C]

For real.

[B]

But this is the thing.

[C]

No, let's talk about our personals. Just what's going on?

[A]

You guys are so busy.

[B]

Well, my personal is. I'm happy because we're busy. Yeah, I like busy being busy.

[A]

I get overwhelmed. Like, in a parasocial way overwhelmed for the both of you.

[C]

No, there's no need.

[B]

That you think we're too busy.

[A]

Not too. But just you're doing, like, so much at such a high level that I think, like, how.

[C]

How I'm coming off of plain psychotic process travel.

[A]

Yes. Well, I mean, I think back to when you were, like, doing Wicked. I mean, Wicked and snl, I'm like, how the hell? And that. Like, I just think sometimes it was.

[B]

It was a. How the hell. For sure. Now, in retrospect, I think we're happy that Wicked is out there and that you're in it. Oh, but during it.

[A]

Jesus. Yeah.

[B]

You had all of how to do it.

[C]

I had. There was no way I wasn't gonna do both. You know what I mean?

[B]

If you're a gay guy that's offered Wicked and they tell you, and you say, well, what's the role? And you say, well, you're gonna be Ariana Grande's sort of gay, gay guy best friend. And so they. And then you go, okay. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

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[B]

Oh, I like the sound of that.

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[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[B]

Way crisper than you'd think. Like you bite into one. Is the little pop that you don't see coming from something that still tastes like classic M and M's caramel.

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[B]

Hey, Bowen, point of order. It feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore.

[C]

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[B]

Hey. Or it turns out to be something else entirely.

[C]

Like a total catfish situation.

[B]

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[C]

Except for Hotels.com?

[B]

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[C]

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[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[B]

I think we're having another like 2024 moment.

[C]

Like, girly summer.

[A]

Much music coming out. It's the best news.

[C]

It's so cool.

[B]

I was watching someone react to Short and sweet, and I remember texting you about short and sweet when it came out.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And you were like, I can't believe she just swooped in and made the album of the year.

[A]

The last episode. Yeah, no, it's. It's absurd. But also, what can't she do? And like, I think I feel like all of us at this point are done being surprised by how phenomenal she's just cemented like forever. Forever. Forever.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like there's like, you know, and I'm also like, talk about someone who I would wish would take a nap for

[B]

the sake of her heart and soul though.

[A]

What do I know? And she seems like, I mean, she's glowing harder than you guys are.

[B]

All coming up and solidifying together at the same time in a generation. That. That feels very cool. You're part of like a cool class of pop girlies.

[A]

I love them. I'm just happy to be here today.

[C]

Are you on a group shot for you all?

[A]

No, not necessarily.

[B]

It's a group shot called Slade 2024. And now 2020.

[A]

2024 is back. 2024. We're so back.

[C]

It's the two year anniversary of 2024.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[B]

Do you ever go into Soho and like, hang?

[A]

Like, not often, no.

[B]

I don't know a lot about it. Is that a weird thing for you to do? Go to Soho?

[A]

There's a couple yummies.

[C]

There's some yummies.

[A]

Have you been to Mountain?

[C]

No.

[B]

What's so good about the mountain?

[A]

The Mountain.

[B]

The Mountain.

[A]

It is basically like the mountain. It's so good. It's just a really delicious restaurant. Restaurant. It's like super, super fresh, like yummy. Like small plates. But also, like, big plates.

[B]

Well, we love to shoom.

[A]

Oh, we love to shoom. I love to shoot so much.

[B]

We ate at the Shoom twice last time.

[A]

We went all the time. Like three times a week. Yeah.

[C]

Deliver to Shoom.

[A]

Yeah. My code is 24 if you need it.

[C]

Slay 20. 24.

[A]

Did you. You shot in London?

[C]

We shot in London.

[A]

Was it at. What's it called?

[C]

Leavesden? And we did Elstree. And then we went. We shot, like, all the shiz stuff, like, in this little room. Astroturf farm. Cause they gotta grow it. Cause it's fake, right?

[A]

Cause it was real.

[C]

Well, I understand.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Astroturf. Not real.

[C]

It was never clear. It was never clear if it was like it was AstroTurf or that it was fake. Like, why don't you just make it in the factory? But they needed to, like, lay it out or something. Make it in the factory.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Just make it in the factory.

[C]

Just make it in the factory.

[A]

Alma, the air. Just make it in the factory.

[C]

Just make it in the factory. And then we would stay at the Grove, which is all the way out. But anyway, we love to shoom. And. And it's fine. It's amazing.

[B]

No, it's not fine. And I heard a rumor they're bringing it to America.

[A]

Wow, Great.

[B]

Did I make that up?

[C]

No, you didn't.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

They really are New York.

[C]

New York.

[A]

I love their sauces, their chutneys and such.

[C]

Oh, my God. Their chicken biryani. Britannica Britannia.

[A]

It's like Britannica.

[B]

Chicken Britannica. He's probably your drag name.

[C]

Oh, my God, that's good.

[B]

Chicken Britannica.

[C]

Chicken Britannica.

[B]

And I'll be pouring pork Britannica.

[C]

Yeah. You're not pork.

[B]

What am I?

[A]

You're not pork. Eye roll.

[C]

Eye roll.

[B]

I'm veal Britannica.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Wow. I love that. For me, I just winked at your team. I'd made eye contact with her a night ago.

[A]

I'm always doing shit like that with them.

[B]

Do you love the team?

[A]

I love.

[B]

Give yourself a hand.

[C]

Give it up for the team.

[A]

It's really. I'm the luckiest in the.

[B]

So you're loving. You're loving life. It's going to be an incredible sum.

[A]

It's going to be a sum. It's going to be a sum.

[B]

It'll be a busy.

[A]

Yes, but. But like, thank God. And thank God. And I think. I think there's so much to return to at home as well.

[B]

Yeah, that's Great.

[A]

I love. I also love learning what it's like to be at home too.

[B]

Congrats on your culture award nomination.

[A]

Thank you so much. We were both touched beyond belie.

[B]

And there were so many options of them.

[A]

We did it.

[B]

We did it, hon.

[C]

Wait, he wanted a picture with me when we, when he was at snl.

[A]

That was. I. That was. I loved that episode. Of course.

[C]

He was so funny. We wrote him the craziest sketch in the world.

[A]

Are you talking about Trisha Paytas? Trisha Paytas?

[C]

Oh, she was, well.

[A]

Oh, of course.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She was. She was in the flesh.

[B]

She was in the flesh. I was the lead of that episode of us snl.

[A]

God, that was amazing. The fact, first of all, the fact that, like, end credits, it's. It's Paul and Trisha. I was like, I can, I can go now.

[B]

By the way, Trisha is television's biggest star. She stars on Hacks and she also was on. Was she on the Comeback?

[A]

She was on Euphoria.

[B]

Yeah, she was on Euphoria all over television.

[A]

Are you guys dear friends? Friends.

[B]

Bowen knows Trisha.

[C]

I spent one day with her.

[A]

I just didn't. I was like, I didn't know where in the. Like, because I, I just of course, like the rest. I have a million of course questions, like, I just want to know everything.

[B]

Well, the best was when we went to go see Lily Allen's show. And then there's a bit in the show where Lily Allen points to Madeline and this woman rises up and Bowen is like, is that Trisha? And it was Trisha Paytas, by the way. The next night it was Lisa Rinna.

[A]

I saw that.

[C]

Incredible.

[A]

I saw that.

[B]

Do you have Bravo takes Well, so

[A]

you've been my guide.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was definitely not the start of us loving each other.

[B]

No.

[A]

Or me loving you.

[B]

I can't speak for you, but it was the secret of us.

[A]

It was the secret of us.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It was the.

[B]

That sort of worked.

[A]

That was really nice.

[C]

That was really good. Thanks.

[A]

That was really nice. I've just done Salt Lake.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or I've a while ago.

[B]

Can I ask big polls from Salt Lake. Where do you stand? Who, who is. Who's your girl?

[A]

What's scary again about, like, the memory of it all is I don't even remember where we left them.

[B]

Totally. That's. I think fine.

[A]

Where did we leave them? Oh, oh.

[B]

Probably upset. On an island.

[C]

Whitney.

[B]

Whitney Bronwyn.

[A]

And Bronwyn. She was not in.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[B]

She announced that she's getting a Divorce.

[A]

That was where we left it, right? Yes, kind of.

[C]

She and Todd are not together.

[A]

What are my takes?

[B]

She now dates a male model.

[A]

Incredible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, but Survivor, not Bravo. What if there's a Bravo Survivor crossover? Can I pitch that?

[C]

I think you just imagine.

[B]

And this is the place where manifestation happens.

[A]

Survivor.

[B]

Wait, we were just talking about the season. This is gonna come out, like, soon.

[A]

Heather Gay is, like, taking everything.

[B]

I think Heather Gay would be good.

[C]

Heather Gay would be. Be great.

[A]

You guys should be like, you have

[B]

no idea what I'm fighting for at home.

[A]

What's her. What was her. What was her.

[B]

I want to win Survivor.

[A]

What was her line? Season one of Salt Lake. Like, like my, like, like my pioneer

[C]

ancestors, I'm blazing a new trail.

[B]

I'm blazing a new trail. Blazing a new trail just like my pioneer ancestors. I've never been.

[A]

My favorite is. Is my favorite.

[B]

If you come for me, I will send Jesus after you.

[A]

Who is.

[B]

Is that Marianne Cosby herself?

[A]

Of course. And Meredith's jealousy is a disease to which I say, get well sick. Which I say we've said syntactically.

[C]

Makes no sense. She's saying to the disease.

[B]

Darcy is a disease to which I say, get well soon. She should keep speaking and not making sense. It's her whole battle.

[C]

It's her whole thing.

[B]

You can leave.

[C]

Well, you didn't speak up for me at all. Yeah, the eyes.

[B]

Well, you didn't speak up for me at all. She's recording us. You have to leave.

[A]

It's the looking down the. There's the, like, head to the wall.

[B]

I have a question. What's the goal? What's the goal? Well, she can fuck off. It's a never ending wheel of way. You can say words. That is just fuck off.

[C]

It's Mary Brian Cox. It is.

[B]

I would love to see actors Meredith Marks and Brian Cox.

[A]

Yeah. Can you do it one more time?

[B]

Fuck off.

[A]

And he. And he turns around.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then turns around.

[B]

Fuck off.

[C]

Fuck off.

[A]

You and.

[C]

Oh, Helena. Better get you saying fuck off in the movie.

[A]

I will put that in whatever my next conversation is. You ever, like, give each other a word to drop in an interview or something?

[B]

No.

[C]

Should we do that?

[A]

I dare say you to do off.

[B]

Okay, so we, we should do that. We're gonna be. We're about to be doing a lot of interviews together, but this will come out, I think, after this interview. So now let's say this is a Easter egg. This is an Easter egg.

[A]

Migita Perez.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

That should be easy. To be honest.

[B]

Okay, what interview is going to be the hardest one to drop? Magita Perez.

[A]

Are you guys not.

[B]

Watch what happens. Live the nonsense.

[A]

How many times have you done that?

[B]

Watch what happens. I think this is my 10th appearance.

[A]

Is it fun? Fun.

[B]

So fun.

[C]

So quick.

[A]

I feel like I need more context. No, no, no. Just more. Well, yes. Of the Bravo verse. Like, I feel. I would feel like a bit of a fraud, I think being across from him and like speaking on anything.

[B]

Sally Field was on the other night, didn't know shit about Bravo, but she's Sally Field.

[A]

She. She can do.

[C]

She can do whatever she wants.

[B]

Well, that's you.

[A]

You're Sally Field.

[C]

You're Sally Field.

[A]

Don't even look at me like that. Never. Never even what?

[B]

Like Sally Field.

[A]

Don't look at me like Sally.

[B]

That's a real culture. Number eight. Don't look at me like Sally.

[C]

You said to role model every night when he opened for you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do not look at me.

[C]

Don't let me look. Exactly. Wait, what's our word for Gracie?

[B]

Oh, for you to drop in.

[C]

For you to drop in an interview.

[A]

Give me anything.

[C]

Piss. No, wait, wait.

[B]

Ding dong.

[C]

Ionic.

[A]

Ding dong.

[C]

Ding dong.

[A]

Happily. Okay, if ionic.

[B]

Ionic is crazy.

[A]

Ionic. Just describe something that's like. It's like whether they ask a question, like, what's it like writing a song? It's like there's this. Ionic.

[B]

I was gonna say like.

[A]

Like that you lean against.

[B]

I wanted to describe. I wanted to explore like a more ionic sound on this album.

[C]

And that meant I buy it.

[A]

Because people are gonna be like, yeah, people would love that.

[B]

And then some people are gonna be like, what the fuck is she talking about? They love it, but you have to be brave enough. They block me to traffic in that confusion.

[C]

They block you don't understand why anyone would.

[A]

What new music liking these days? Like. Yeah, of course.

[C]

Muna.

[A]

Do you guys listen to underscores?

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Talk about this.

[A]

Listen to the beginning of this. Just like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Isn't it beautiful? Kind of imaging. Wait, I've heard this, but it's kind of like.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

Oh, it's a gag.

[A]

It's really good.

[B]

Have you put this on a playlist and sent it to me and I didn't listen to. He always does that.

[C]

Subi Club Club. You would love to see Big club. It's very like punk, but with this kind of like.

[A]

Okay, you're a Slater fan. I saw you.

[C]

I love Slater and Tom Mish.

[A]

Oh, amazing.

[C]

I've been Spinning that album for weeks.

[A]

Some of my friends are deeply obsessed and in it, and I need to kind of, like, spend more time there.

[C]

And in tom world, hot little British guy, you know, Incredible. We love that.

[B]

Right now I'm very. Kiss me.

[A]

And I'm a drop dead coded of course I'm kind of drop dead coded Every time the radio comes on and I have to say Follow me there

[B]

can't believe Begged the second child she sang on snl I know. She's a freak she's such a freak.

[A]

Her voice has never sounded better somehow. Yeah, it's just the control.

[B]

And I'll say the same thing for you, by the way, and. Wait, can we just. Before we do. I don't think so, honey. Actually talk about, like, your amazing work. I just want to say, like, we were listening to who? Jared and I listened to it together. Hit the wall. Can you just talk about, like, finding all this bigness in your sound because you've always had big emotions, and I feel like the sound, sonically, is even bigger and matching those emotions now. Is that something you strove for?

[A]

Well, I think it was just like being in the whole thing was informed by having been on the road for the past few years, but, like, really diving into the production problem process once it ended. And I think that there was a lot of, like, more patience or, like, space in this album, actually. Or it felt like it matched my sort of internal rhythm being off road. Off road.

[B]

Off roading. When you were off. When you were off tour, you were

[A]

off roading the road. Yeah, when tour ended. And so I feel like there's this kind of, to me, conversation in the album between having. And then also when songs do want to build. We were very intricate in the production of so many vocal layers and where, you know, I felt like the story would benefit from that kind of impact. And it was. It was a real treat to make. I don't know. We. We were. It was all very thoughtful. And Aaron and I made this together again. This is our sixth year working together, and I love him because he's not like. Like, he sort of reminds me, at least that you don't need to make some radical change in order to, like, have your next album be a valid step forward in your kind of, like, artistry or just being a person. It's like it can just accurately reflect where you're at. And to me, this felt like. It felt like the most elevated version of all of the ways that we've written and worked together in the past. Like, there's his gothic folky sounds that he's like, mayor of gothic folktown and. And like, what if it's right? And humming. Do things like that. And then, like, good reason feels like a sister song to I love you, I'm sorry in ways to me, but, like, different. And then, like, look at my life. We wrote to a pulse, which we do all the time. Or like cold Goodbyes. We just did one instrument in my vocal or, like, hit the wall. Felt like. I don't know, there's all these kind of, like, trances that envelop us in the studio. And this was a real heavenly experience to do it. And I'm grateful to him because I was having this, like, on tour toward the end where everyone has been on the bus and with each other and just like, the energy and the kind of, like, social, like, being on and the. Where you're sort of like white knuckling in a way that is full of gratitude, but also, like survival mode a bit. In order to get through. I was just so. My voice inside my head was, like, not there anymore. Like, I was so tired. I just felt, like, absolutely gone. And Aaron's music, with no words and no vocal, nothing, like, always sort of like, presses some button in me that, like, allows me to remember what I feel and remember my perspective and hear myself again. So this album was a surprise to me.

[B]

That's really interesting. Like, he.

[A]

He's amazing.

[B]

Creates, like, escape for you to then, like, inhabit.

[A]

Yeah. Like, hear yourself again.

[B]

That's really cool. I was thinking while I was listening to it that it's made for a live experience too. Like, Daughter from Hell is just going to be such a communal moment for everyone there, I feel. And you do. You do have them wanting that experience.

[A]

Well, they're really bringing it. I get to just hang out and watch them have a good time. It's really nice. But that song in particular we wrote with this particular show in mind, not this album, but we were thinking about a specific, like, festival experience. And that's on this, like, amazing baritone guitar. And it's just playing that. We've been in rehearsals this past week for lots of things. And playing that live with the band

[B]

has to feel so good.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, it's interesting. It's so fun how quickly, like, already playing these songs with the band, I'm like, my favorite song is shifting around always. And so I think, you know, just

[B]

shout out to where you at today? Favorite song wise, I think the Knife.

[A]

For some reason.

[C]

I love the knife.

[A]

That song gets me Fuck, it's so good live. Like, it's such a band song.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And they're all just such brilliant players. But everyone who worked on this album I'm addicted to and I admire so much. So it was a joy.

[C]

It's truly. Well, thank you for sharing all that. That's so profound.

[A]

Thanks for listening and letting me talk.

[C]

You didn't say ionic, so whatever.

[B]

Yeah, you just have to say ionic. Well, maybe like that answer was pretty good.

[A]

1 or 2.7 Kiss FM will be like the. Just the ionic force.

[B]

What? Honestly, if interviewer one day says so talk about the ionic nature of this album, know that we sent them there.

[A]

I'll say ding dong.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it'll be this.

[B]

And they'll come in with a million dollars. It's a Mr. Beast challenge. Anyways, with that in mind, it is time for I don't think so Honey. And really what it is is it's a one minute segment on this podcast where sort of cathartically tear down something in culture that's been giving us some troubles. I'm. I'm finally speaking truth about something on this podcast.

[C]

Finally. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so Honey's time starts now.

[B]

I don't think so, honey. Sunglass shopping. When you have a long head and a bridge of your nose that is what, a little crooked? It's especially complicated by the fact that I'm colorblind. I go in to a sunglass store, shop stand, whatever it is, any of those S locations and I am met with strife. Another S. Because basically I can't cannot find a pair of sunglasses that, that fit my face right. I am gonna need them custom made. I put them on. It's a little bit askew. I would rather they be full askew because then it could be a statement. This is just nothing. It's just a little bit wrong. I already had the nose job.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

So now what?

[C]

Non elective.

[B]

Medically.

[C]

I medically needed to have it 15 seconds.

[B]

But they wouldn't let me use my insurance to cover it because they said it was electric. But I say if you saw the cyst in my nose at the time, you would know I couldn't have lived with it.

[C]

No.

[B]

I don't know how we got there, but I don't think so, honey. Sunglass shopping.

[C]

And that's one minute.

[B]

Is that one minute?

[A]

Okay, guys, where was the cyst?

[B]

Oh, honey, in there.

[C]

Right there.

[B]

I'll show you. Old picture of my nose.

[A]

Do you not breathe?

[B]

So get this. It didn't affect my breathing at all. It just like. It was just like an inch longer.

[A]

Your doctors are like, it's elective.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. Jared was my boyfriend at the time. I had this. Was that a medical necessity?

[C]

Because it smelled. Didn't it?

[B]

Everyone stop. This is my foot and my nose are my things to show.

[A]

Everyone stop.

[C]

This is my thing with sunglass shopping.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

I put on sunglasses. I go to the mirror to see myself. I can't see a damn thing in there.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

It's dark all of a sudden.

[B]

That's a rule of culture. That's rule of culture number 30. I put on sunglasses. It's all dark all of a sudden.

[C]

I can't see a thing.

[A]

You have an amazing nose.

[B]

Thank you for saying that.

[A]

What do you mean, crooked? Where?

[B]

You'll see if you really look. It's a little bit. The bone here.

[A]

I can't see, but I trust you, of course.

[C]

Is the crooked in the room with us?

[B]

Are you ready?

[A]

I also have a sunglass problem. Let me see.

[C]

It's fine.

[A]

Absolutely straight.

[B]

See? This is why I own these, though.

[A]

Oh, wow. Did you get them fixed for you?

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

Those are gauzes.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Look at them.

[B]

Thank goodness.

[A]

Look at them.

[C]

They're very ozzy. Wow.

[B]

Out of the whole wicked soundtrack, I chose thank goodness. Like, could have been any of the famous notes.

[C]

You're Glinda.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm gonna be Glenda. Coated dirting. You're. I don't think so, honey. Okay, so this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. Do you have a topic on today?

[C]

I do.

[B]

Fabulous. This is Bo's. I don't think so, honey. I always go to the wrong thing before I. His time starts now.

[C]

I don't think so, honey. Reading taking such a long time. I want to read every damn book in the world, basically. But it takes a minute. It do take time. What book results in time? I wish I could read a book in merely five minutes, but nope. I think I am on page 57, and I'm gonna be on this page for the next six months. Yeah. And that's what sucks about reading. A lot of great things about reading, but the worst shittiest thing about reading 30 seconds is how you have to basically sit or stand and be visually uninteresting as this thing that has to ferment in your brain takes hold. I wish it were faster. There's no real substitute for actual reading. And I think we would be a much better society if our eyes moved Faster. If we could read words on top of each other, stacked on top of each other, but there's just no way around it.

[B]

Five seconds.

[C]

And I wish it were radial. And that's one in it.

[B]

And that's one in it. So what book is giving you trouble?

[A]

Yeah, I was gonna say drop it.

[C]

Middlemarch.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

I wanna have a Middlemarch summer. I always try to have a Middlemarch summer. It doesn't. In fact, speaking of Wicked, I keep putting it down. I keep putting it. Cause it's a big, big book.

[B]

And I had.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's what I was gonna say. Like, of course that would take anyone time.

[C]

It would take anyone time. But I had it on the set of Wicked. And then Cynthia was like, oh, but book is that. I was like, it's Middlemarch by George Eliot, and it's actually a woman. Whatever. This was her pseudonym. She goes, I'll read that next.

[A]

She read it. Yeah. I was gonna say it's gone in, like, a day. Yeah.

[C]

I'm like, gone. Gone in a day.

[A]

Gone in a day.

[C]

Gone in a day.

[B]

She read it in a week. And I was like, she does everything.

[A]

She brought it on the marathon.

[C]

She brought it in the marathon. I was like, cynthia, I listened to

[B]

this while I ran the marathon.

[A]

She is like.

[B]

I was playing Dracula.

[A]

She's like a superhuman.

[C]

She is.

[B]

Have you seen the Pledge of Dracula?

[A]

Have you seen Dracula? I haven't.

[B]

I play it 27 different ways.

[A]

Have you seen it?

[B]

No. No, Because I do it.

[A]

No, because I do it.

[B]

I don't see it. I am it.

[A]

Maybe it's. I don't think so, honey. Like. Well, I actually. No, I can't.

[B]

Do you ever start to talk like this?

[A]

No. No.

[B]

Is an Irish accent harder than.

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[C]

Irish is so hard.

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

He's talking crazy, your man.

[A]

He's talking all sorts of shit.

[B]

Are you ready for your. I don't think so, honey.

[A]

I think so. So, yeah.

[B]

Okay. I have. Do you keep a bunch of them in your head or do you have one that you think.

[A]

Well, what was concerning me is that I. Which I think is also, like, maybe pleasant. But then I was thinking about the two of you. I was like, don't. Don't.

[C]

Don't think about us.

[A]

I was like, thinking. I was like, even as I. As I. Because even in this moment, I'm like, there's a couple that I could go with, and I might list them all.

[B]

Follow your heart. Say them. If they all come out. They all come out.

[A]

I might list them all.

[B]

This is Gracie Abrams. I don't think so, honey. Your time starts now.

[A]

Okay? I don't think so, honey. Travel etiquette edition with love and understanding that everyone operates in their own individual way.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

My personal hope and dream is that in public spaces, like, not to go back to the feet, please. But I feel it's fascinating, the impulse when we're on a plane 30,000ft up in the air in a metal tube that we're taking our socks all the way off. That fascinates me. I have also recently been on a flight where people were clipping their nails on the flight. Flight attendants are angels in the sky.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Forget everyone you're sitting next to. You're making everyone uncomfortable. They are seeing that, and that's their space. So I would just say please. Another thing is when you're going through tsa, you have to put the tray back in the thing.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Or you're a bad person. And then you feel performative beyond when you put everyone else. Not a nice feeling.

[B]

No.

[A]

And then my last two are. Oh, shit. The mouth of the machine. When the bags are coming out. We bum rush. If everyone took a step back, we'd have air to breathe and we would have room to see and we'd have also room to stretch post flight. And I just think these are things to maybe consider. And I'll leave it there.

[B]

I don't think so, honey. Has been completed in 1 minute and 16 seconds. Do you know what the other thing was? Cause you said there were two things. Things. You decided to leave it there. But there's something else.

[A]

I just think. I don't think. I don't think so, honey. Like Sig shaming anyone but yourself.

[B]

Oh, okay. Got it.

[C]

Cigarette shaming. Totally.

[B]

Don't cigarette other people.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, everyone is doing their best.

[B]

Yeah. I would agree. Are you a smoker?

[A]

Like, every once in a while, everyone.

[B]

I do it on vacation every once in a while. Yeah.

[C]

I brought my parents.

[A]

It's a sunny Saturday.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or you got to do it.

[B]

Or I've had one to five drinks.

[A]

Yeah. I'm just having. By the policing of certain behaviors. And I'm like, I get it. Like, I understand. And we all have the same information.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

And therefore, like, you don't know what's going on in everyone's lives.

[B]

I do have to be a vaporizer

[A]

police, though I certainly am not on that wave. I. And I know. And I know. When I heard that story, I stopped. I was on a lime bike. Got off it.

[B]

Stop. Really?

[A]

Swear to God. Because I was like, hold on. I was going too fast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I needed to slow down and hear, hear. You got off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then walked home.

[C]

And I argue a line bike is sort of the vapes of vehicles.

[A]

Well, and then another. I don't think so, honey. That I was sitting on. Was that like. I don't think so, honey. City bikes don't have the phone holders.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Which is for safety and for like a beautiful social kind of. You can call your. You can call your friend, like, not in a danger.

[C]

GPS or whatever.

[A]

I know New York is a grid and I know London. Like, you really need to know where you're going.

[C]

But London has the holders.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They do it all better.

[C]

I know on New York.

[B]

New York is fantastic. But.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, listen, this has been just.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Just thank you.

[A]

No, thank you so much. This is. This podcast. What you guys make is a big part of the, you know, joy of my every week. So thank you.

[C]

And I. I couldn't be more obsessed with you.

[A]

I literally just couldn't be more grateful. And you guys are. I'm just.

[B]

We love you a lot.

[A]

I'm like, it's not one o'.

[C]

Clock.

[B]

Well, we've done a lot. We've got ionic back in the conversation. We've coined Magita Red McGee.

[C]

The original title of it was the Aubrey Situ. The Aubrey Situation.

[B]

Audrey Situation. There's the Audrey situation in music. And there's the Aubrey situation on top

[A]

of USD Maguita Perez. No meguita. You liked the Audrey Situation.

[C]

I want people to stumble on Maguita Perez the way that I did, which was not expecting it and being absolutely gobsmacked. Gobsmacked.

[A]

Okay, what's title of app?

[B]

You guys, you had said it. I forget what it was, but it's everybody Everything Feet. Everything Feet.

[C]

Everything Feet.

[A]

That feels perfect.

[C]

That's perfect.

[B]

Oh, they're gonna flip.

[A]

Everything Feet.

[B]

Everything Feet with Gracie Abrams. Okay, well, looking forward to that hitting your airwave soon, which is now actually. Daughter from Hell. Daughter from Hell and album is fantastic. All of your music is. Everything you do is exciting and great and we love you. And we'll see ya.

[C]

We'll see ya.

[B]

Over at Universal Studios 2030. Guys, we end every episode with a song. What did we say we were gonna do? Oh, how does it start? Dreams of Green Teeth. Wait, while you're waiting out front, this is gonna be really good for everyone. And again, hold on, wait, hold on, hold on. Stoner. Wait, what is it?

[A]

No, no, No, I hope you just leave in when it's just met like this?

[B]

You take me up, you take me home again? Why that key? Anyway, bye bye. Straight your hair away. Yay.

[A]

Yay.

[C]

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[B]

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[B]

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[C]

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[A]

It's about the hang.

[B]

It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang and director.

[C]

Morgan Neville Film school teaches you all

[B]

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[C]

What do you hear?

[B]

I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

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