← Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
Look, man, there. Oh, I see my eye. Oh, my.
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Robert
Bowen.
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Matt Rogers
Look over there.
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Bowen Yang
Wow.
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Matt Rogers
Is that culture? Yes.
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Bowen Yang
Goodness.
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Matt Rogers
Ding dong. Las culturistas calling just us today in person. Tactile. Tactile.
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Bowen Yang
I mean, at this point, it's getting rarer and rarer for Matt Rogers to be in New York City. He's playing sort of, you know, aloof with us.
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Matt Rogers
I'm playing both sides, as it were. No, it's just that I'm get. It takes so long to have an apartment ready.
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Bowen Yang
Yes. This is one of the realities of. Of just having a place. Yeah. That you want to furnish in your own way. Because this is going to be your home.
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Matt Rogers
Yeah. I mean, that's the plan is like, hopefully like September, October comes around and I'll have like a gorgeous little fall life that low key is not as busy and stressful as our lives have been because we've been stretched them.
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Bowen Yang
Can I tell you, today is technically, and I guess not even technically anymore, was like my first day off in a long time.
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Matt Rogers
I know.
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Bowen Yang
And it feels great.
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Matt Rogers
Because you just got back from China.
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Bowen Yang
I just got back from China. And so I left for China the day after we taped Culture Rewards, which is crazy.
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Matt Rogers
And we'll get to the Culture Awards because there's so much to say in preparation for it coming out on Bravo on the 5th and streaming the next day.
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Bowen Yang
Yes.
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Matt Rogers
On peacock on the 6th. Much to say. But why don't you tell everybody about your trip?
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Bowen Yang
The headline is, it was so fun. And it had been almost a decade since I was back. I used to go all the time as a kid. We would go basically every other year in the summer, and I would spend, like six weeks there. And that was back when, like, time was just a little bit more available to everybody, like, in the family. And, you know, now everyone's grown up and, you know, Yang has a family. I have my working life, which is, you know, kind of packed the gills. And I'm very fortunate about that. But I'm also realizing, like, oh, wow, like, most of my summer, I mean, we're already in August and like, most of our summer was all being put into one thing, which I have no regrets about, but I am like, oh, like, that's where it all went.
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Matt Rogers
It was like a bigger I mean, obviously, because it was a bigger version of the way we've done it. It was a much bigger endeavor because, you know, peek behind the curtain. We kind of just look at the Culture Awards when we do it live, like, a couple weeks before, and we just reach out to friends who are available and are sourcing videos. But this. I don't know if you guys have seen, like, the content online about who was at the awards, but this was a much, much, much different story in terms of production and getting it together. And luckily we did absolutely crush and we ate tour and more. But again, getting to that in a second. Like, more highlights from the trip. Like. Like, I feel like you posted some of the most beau photos I've ever seen.
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Bowen Yang
Oh, my God, girl. Well, that's my Ricoh GR3X shout out.
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Matt Rogers
Is that the camera?
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Bowen Yang
That's the camera, yeah.
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Matt Rogers
Really good.
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Bowen Yang
That anyone can use.
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Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah. Are you telling the readers?
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Bowen Yang
I'm.
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Matt Rogers
Oh, but what do you mean that anyone can use? Like, anyone can borrow your camera or you mean the ease of use? And the ease of use is what I'm saying. Idiot.
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Bowen Yang
Proof.
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Matt Rogers
It's idiot.
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Bowen Yang
If I can take a pretty picture with it, then you can. You know what I mean?
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Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah.
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Bowen Yang
No, I know. It was so beautiful. And we. There's this ritual in Chinese culture of sweeping the tomb, quote, unquote. Sweeping the tomb. Yeah. And it's. You go and you basically, like, clean and you maintain, like, the burial site or the grave or, you know, whatever. And so my grandparents are buried all the way out in the, like, ancestral burial grounds of, like, the Yang family.
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Matt Rogers
Wow.
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Bowen Yang
And this. This is like, gener of farmers and people whose worlds are both expansive and that they literally live in, like, the famed grassy fields of Inner Mongolia. Like, they are, like, the pride of China. Like, these are truly, like, cinematic, panoramic Windows xp.
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Matt Rogers
Yeah.
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Bowen Yang
Coated, like, screensaver vibes. Screensaver vibes. Like, they're gorgeous. And. Yeah. Like, multiple many generations of Yang families. There's, like, a lot of bodies.
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Matt Rogers
Is there a plot for you?
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Bowen Yang
There is not really a plot for me. And I think, well, that may have lost the plot.
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Matt Rogers
Bury my girl somewhere.
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Bowen Yang
Great.
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Matt Rogers
I want Bury my girl at Scream Saver. Yeah. Coded atmospheres.
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Bowen Yang
Bury my heart at Wounded Knee. Now, now, now, now. But no, I'm like, I think my dad. So my dad. My parents are both like, I think we think we want to. Will be cremated and we'll be, like, buried in the States.
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Matt Rogers
Okay.
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Bowen Yang
Or, like, we'll spread their ashes somewhere when, you know, if that if it comes to that.
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Matt Rogers
Oh, wow. So you're gonna. You're gonna be spreading.
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Bowen Yang
Girl. Are we. Are we at the age now where we have to, like, write our wills out? I thought about it. I thought about it. I. I definitely thought of it on this trip and I turned my mom. I was like, my parents have the rules done. And, like, I remember a few years ago, like, Yang and I had to sort of like, look at the will.
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Matt Rogers
Yeah. I think I remember you told me this.
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Bowen Yang
And it was. It was just. It was totally normal thing. It was just like, shit. This is like a thing that. I mean, I'm lucky that I haven't had to, like. My thing is, like, I haven't dealt with a huge, profound grief in my life. Yeah.
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Matt Rogers
I think about this a lot.
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Bowen Yang
And when the time comes, like, I really don't know how transfer. It will be. Transformative. No doubt. I am kind of like, what am I going to be?
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Matt Rogers
I think about this. I mean, it's one of the reasons I don't get a dog.
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Bowen Yang
Oh, honestly, like, we have to talk about the dogs.
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Matt Rogers
Okay, we will talk about the dogs. Because this has become a real narrative, and it is.
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Bowen Yang
If you and I both got. Not to skip ahead, but if you're not.
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Matt Rogers
If you and I both got dogs, I don't think. I think you are ready for it and set up for it in a way that I am not.
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Bowen Yang
But you're about. You're. You're on. You're in the process of getting set up for it.
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Matt Rogers
I'm in the process of getting set up as a home for myself. I don't know. So this is honestly my. My issue. And it's. It has to do with. The thing about you just said about grief, too, is it's like, I think all the time about how. And I hate even putting this energy out there, but I have thought about my will recently. I don't know.
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Bowen Yang
I was the one who brought it up, but. Yeah, go.
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Matt Rogers
Yeah. But, like, I. I was thinking about it as recently as yesterday, so it's funny that you say that. And I don't know if that's having to do with, you know, just getting older or just to be transparent, having more money now that I would want to go to my sister. You know what I mean? I also don't know, and I don't deny that it has something to do with the fact that, like, shit is dark. You know what I mean? Like, yesterday we were taping Colbert, and there was a shooting right around the corner, and you know, like, to say nothing of like the rest of the state of the world, which, you know, let's leave that there for now. But regardless, like, I get so overwhelmed by things that have nothing comparable in terms of stakes with death and real things. Like if I got a dog, I genuinely feel like if it coughs weird, if it's sick, if I'm going to lose my shit, like, I think it's why I can't have children. It's not because it's a selfish decision. I simply think, like, I might care too much. And that sounds like a backhanded compliment. It's. I promise you it's not. I think it's pathetic of me. No, like, I mean, like, even just like, just I'm having like a journey this year and I think last year too, just like really examining my anxiety and how to control it can get. And, you know, I don't think I'm equipped emotionally to care for something at this time that much. Like, that's really where I'm at. Like, when you talk about, like, not being able to handle a grief, like, I wouldn't be able to handle it at all. I have a deep fear of what happens when that happens.
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Bowen Yang
Is. Is your anxiety a fixed point to you? Like, do you feel like you can.
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Matt Rogers
To be honest with you, you know, it's like a lot of times, like, these things are also superpowers for you, you know what I mean? It's like I feel like my anxiety, like it's been something that makes me over prepared. I think it makes me something that jumps into action. I think it makes me something that's very. Makes me somebody who's very generative in terms of ideas and, you know, very equipped for what we do, you know what I mean? In terms of being entertainers and doing what we do. But I will say, like, there is a. There is another side to it, like a darker side to it that really comes at my expense. And I'm gonna start engaging with my psychiatrist again about potentially figuring something out because I've really, you know, just transparently, like, I'm so proud of what we did with the Culture Awards.
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Bowen Yang
So proud.
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Matt Rogers
But it took me a second to calm down, like, during the process, like, I was very, like. And we had an amazing team helping us as, you know, like, and you're gonna see the results. But, like, I was nervous.
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Bowen Yang
Well, you were nervous within the boundary of yourself. You, like, am I gonna be able to deliver on all of these ideas that we spent, like, you know, the last six Weeks or so, just like, coming up with. Cause, you know, it was also a very disorienting thing for me where I was not used to. I'm used to just, like, shedding the skin of an idea, bringing an idea to conception within a week, and then just, like, letting it go. Right. Like, I've had so many reps of that. And I realized that, like, I was very specially equipped for that process in terms of scaling it up for the Culture Awards. And I feel like I. But I still feel like I was kind of out of my depth by the end. I was like, oh, this is a lot.
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Matt Rogers
It was a lot.
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Bowen Yang
And you and I both have very different responses to that kind of overwhelm. And so. Sorry. And this. Just, just, just. Let's keep talking about your response.
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Matt Rogers
No, no, no, no. I just mean, like, I have an anxious response to stress and it was stressful. You know what? Honestly, it was. And you guys are going to see this in the show. So there is. We do a big opening.
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Bowen Yang
Yes.
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Matt Rogers
And does it still read as big?
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Bowen Yang
Because I have not seen the edit. Still does. It's really on camera. Okay. Okay.
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Matt Rogers
It is really good. And I have to say, like, we will talk more specifically about what this is. And I understand we're dangling a carrot, but that is also fine because I, I. And also Bowen, I'm sure we really want you guys to tune in and tell everyone about this, please. It is, it is the cultural wards, like, turned all the way up. And by the way, the shit that they let us get away with. I truly feel like we were. We scammed our way into doing this because so much of the blue sky, which is like, what they call the phase at the beginning of a creative process, is in that show. So much of it, like, shout out to NBC, Bravo, and Peacock for really. And I do think it's a credit to you and the foundation that you've created there just in terms of, like, how much they trust you. And the vibes were so great and they let us do all this stuff. But just to speak about the thing that made me the most nervous, it is an opening number that is certainly an homage to someone in culture. And I think that I had been. I don't love dancing and doing choreo and stuff. I absolutely love singing, as you guys all know.
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Bowen Yang
You're so good at it.
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Matt Rogers
Like, I love it. I feel confident doing it. But when it comes to choreography, especially iconic choreography or that which references iconic choreography, I don't even need to be in front of everyone. I'VE ever met and everyone I would ever meet to be nervous. The audience was crazy. No. It's like the one thing that I didn't realize was gonna happen, which of course it was going to, was the seat cards. Like, you know, so those are all.
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Bowen Yang
Your heroes and friends.
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Matt Rogers
Literally, the. We're rehearsing in the space, like, the number, doing the whole show, and they've got the seat cards on the seats, which is the headshots of everyone that's going to be in the audience.
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Bowen Yang
Yeah.
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Matt Rogers
And I was like, this is not normal. No, this is not.
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Bowen Yang
That's not normal.
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Matt Rogers
But I will say, like, it happens to tend to be. I'll freak out, like, day. Weeks and days before, and then the day of, I actually feel quite confident. And I will say, once we got through the number and we did it.
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Bowen Yang
Well, during the show, on the day.
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Matt Rogers
After that, I felt incredible.
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Bowen Yang
Yes. That's where I could. I could feel the shift.
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Matt Rogers
I was just like, oh, my God, we did it. I did not.
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Bowen Yang
The hard part's over.
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Matt Rogers
I didn't, like, eat it in front of literally the world.
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Bowen Yang
Yes.
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Matt Rogers
And again, I just, like. After that, and once the show started and it was like our goofy Frankenstein nightmare award show happening, I was just like, wow, it's playing. It's going well. Like this bizarre Hollywood puzzle slash chess game. Slash. Keys to the car. We were given, like, it was all panning out.
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Bowen Yang
Yeah.
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Matt Rogers
And then I was relaxing. But I guess this is. What I mean is it's like, there's gotta be a better way for me to treat myself in preparation for these things.
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Bowen Yang
I wouldn't beat yourself up too much about it because I think this is also something that you will develop a thicker skin, an expectation, and you'll just know. It's like your first time doing not for nothing one of the hardest things in entertainment, which is to quote, unquote, host an award show. Even though we're doing, like, a funny, frivolous, parodied version of it, we still put it, like our body and our mind can't really tell the difference.
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Matt Rogers
No.
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Bowen Yang
When we're up there, I'm talking about you and me when we're up there doing, like, what is still a kind of thankless job, you know what I mean? We just had the extreme benefit and fortune of having our. Our real. Our beautiful, wonderful, hilarious, clever, loving fans there. That's just the main difference. It's like, in the room, it feels so much better than a stuffy award show where everyone is taking themselves so seriously and, like, their Careers are on the line or whatever.
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Matt Rogers
It was like this crazy. Well, Darcy Cardin, I think said it best. We were backstage and she had come off stage doing her bit, which she does with Dill Kim Booster, which I cannot wait for you guys to see. But she came back and she was like, it's like a bitch show. She's like, it's like, it's like a UCB show.
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Bowen Yang
DCN Dalcos marathon bitch show. Yeah.
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Matt Rogers
And so for those of you who maybe don't really know what that is, it's like there was an whole era and it's not over, but it's not like it was where when we were coming up in comedy in New York, like you'd go to, I don't know, UCB east or wherever and it would just be like an hour or so of just whatever the show was. Everyone coming up and doing a four or five minute stupid bit new character, trying things out, etc, and this was like a version of that blown all the way out with like, Truly. And I can't say enough like our heroes. Like, I mean, you've seen the carpet, so you know that some people are there. So it's not a spoiler for me to say that Kristen Wiig does the show to say that Kenan is in the show to Adie Bryant, you know, and the list goes on and on. I don't want to cross into a place where I start to ruin it, but, like, I just feel so lucky that people wanted to play with us and that we were trusted to do that and so overjoyed that it came out as well as it did. Because it was a lot.
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Bowen Yang
Yes. Like, yeah, I. Because, Because I got to say, going to China right after the awards, I.
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Matt Rogers
Can'T imagine it was like, it was.
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Bowen Yang
Both like, good and not so good in terms of processing what that experience was because I didn't really impact it with anyone except I didn't get a chance to do that until last night when you and me and, and our manager Olivia were together after Colbert. We were just like, I was like, oh, yeah, wow. And like just learning about the dynamics. And yes, we had an amazing team of people shout out to Laura Mandel, Jane Munn, Sweetie Green, Celestia, Frank Gillespie, Olivia rep, Lauren Lemieux.
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Matt Rogers
Yeah. All of Lionsgate, which worked with us on the show and you know, also, you know, just Katie Hockmeyer, Truly, Jen Neal, thank you guys so much. Like, and, and like, I just.
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Bowen Yang
Proctor, we love you.
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Matt Rogers
Oh, Jen Proctor, we love you. Which booked the show for us. Like, and honestly, over 50 talent in the show, which is which.
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Bowen Yang
You know, that number, if that doesn't mean anything to you. I felt like it was having 50 hosts. Yeah, 50 SNL hosts in one. In one night.
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Matt Rogers
It was. It was crazy. It did feel like, like SNL50. Like kids a little.
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Bowen Yang
Like, yeah, you know what I mean?
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Matt Rogers
SNL50 Jr. Is kind of the vibe it was giving. I'll never forget. Like, the. I think it was that night someone had posted, like, a string out of everyone on the purple carpet. And I was just like, I can't believe that that happened. And know lots of really fun different personalities, like, and truly, like, just the collision of, like, everyone on that. On that carpet and then getting, like, actual media coverage, which is also part of the joke and the bit of the whole thing. Like, watching someone serve on the Las Cultures, that Culture Awards carpet is just so funny because what is happening, right?
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Bowen Yang
You're like, wait, why are you talking about that? But no, this is. We're not like, wait, huh? Like, we're being perceived. No, it's just funny because again, and we say this in the show, spoiler alert. It's like, this started out as a bit, and so thank you for being along for the journey and helping us sort of blow it out to this scale for now and who knows what will come of it in the future?
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Matt Rogers
And we never would have even. This is honestly something that, like, it wasn't even, like, when we started it and created it, like, oh, this is going to be something that we pitch one day. It was entirely because you all, like, express the desire to want to see it. When you lined up at Lincoln center and some of you got turned away, because at the time, we just didn't think there was any way that a surplus of people would come to see us live. You know what I mean? Like, but it was really because we wanted to bring this to you and share this thing that's become such a crucial part of the Lost Culture calendar year. It just felt wrong to not do everything we could to bring it to everyone also, because we're really proud of it in terms of, like, you know what it is doing.
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Bowen Yang
And so you're exactly right. After that first year where people were turned away, we were like, wait, wait.
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Matt Rogers
Wait, no, it doesn't feel right.
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Bowen Yang
This needs to be literally broadcast. And so from that year on, and that's why, like, there was no live stream the second year, the third year, we couldn't technically do it without weird, like, legal and clearance issues. And so then There were fan live streams from the audience which we were like unofficially like sanctioning and being like this is okay. Hopefully it delights people externally and you know, tune in.
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Matt Rogers
All we ever do, all we ever hope really is to externally delight. It's actually really go to number eight.
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Bowen Yang
All we ever hope to do is externally delight.
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- [25:11]
Matt Rogers
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- [25:34]
Bowen Yang
That's 20 off your first order with code culturistas@liquidiv.com Matt there are fees everywhere these days. I feel like I'm in the sky with the giants because they say fee fee fee fum.
- [25:47]
Matt Rogers
There are fees up in the sky. That's a Sondheim reference. You know, I was gonna say it's raining fees, which it would have also worked cause it would have been a weather girls reference. But this is what I'm saying. Like there's so many references you can make because there's fees everywhere.
- [26:01]
Bowen Yang
Ubiquitous even.
- [26:03]
Matt Rogers
Fees are everywhere and they hurt the most when you're down. That's why Chime offers fee free banking.
- [26:09]
Bowen Yang
Which means no monthly fees, no overdraft fees, and no minimum balance fees. Sign up today@chime.com culturistas oh my gosh, the stress.
- [26:19]
Matt Rogers
When I once realized I overdrafted, I said, oh my God, the shame is building up. And that's why I'm so happy that I have Chime because it takes my shame away, Beau.
- [26:28]
Bowen Yang
It really does.
- [26:29]
Matt Rogers
I don't overdraft anymore because I'm more conscientious. But the thing is, if I did overdraft, they would have my back.
- [26:35]
Bowen Yang
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- [26:41]
Matt Rogers
Open your account in two minutes@chime.com culturistas that's chime.com culturistas Chime feels like progress.
- [26:50]
Robert
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- [27:03]
Kelly Harnett
Kelly Harnett spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit.
- [27:09]
iHeart Podcast
I'm 100% innocent.
- [27:12]
Kelly Harnett
While behind bars, she learned the law from scratch.
- [27:15]
iHeart Podcast
He goes, oh, God. Harnett, jailhouse lawyer.
- [27:18]
Kelly Harnett
And as she fought for herself, she also became a lifeline for the women locked up alongside her.
- [27:24]
Matt Rogers
You're supposed to have your faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her.
- [27:27]
Kelly Harnett
So many of these women had lived the same stories.
- [27:31]
iHeart Podcast
I said, were you a victim of domestic violence?
- [27:33]
Kelly Harnett
And she was, yeah, but maybe Kelly could change the ending.
- [27:40]
iHeart Podcast
I said, how many people have gotten other incarcerated individuals out of here? I'm gonna be the first one to do that.
- [27:49]
Kelly Harnett
This is the story of Kelly Harnett, a woman who spent 12 years fighting not just for her own freedom, but her girlfriend's, too.
- [27:57]
iHeart Podcast
I think I have a mission from God to save souls by getting people out of prison.
- [28:02]
Kelly Harnett
The girlfriends, jailhouse lawyer. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [28:15]
Matt Rogers
Should we talk about some culture?
- [28:17]
Bowen Yang
Like, yeah, I'm.
- [28:18]
Matt Rogers
I'm.
- [28:18]
Bowen Yang
I think I'm. I must say I'm a little behind. Or I'm playing catch up because I watched a lot of stuff on the plane because my Internet was on the fritz in China.
- [28:25]
Matt Rogers
Why don't you tell us a little bit about what you watched?
- [28:27]
Bowen Yang
I watched a lot of movies for the first time that I feel like. Should be, like, sure, should have been.
- [28:33]
Matt Rogers
Let's talk about it.
- [28:35]
Bowen Yang
No, no, no. I don't want.
- [28:36]
Matt Rogers
Why Are you ashamed?
- [28:37]
Bowen Yang
I'm ashamed. And I also, like, didn't I. I still have to finish this movie that I was telling you about last night.
- [28:42]
Matt Rogers
You don't want to share?
- [28:43]
Bowen Yang
I don't want to share.
- [28:44]
Matt Rogers
Okay, so there is a. There's a classic film, many would say one of the best of all time or whatever, you know, rubric that's based on. But it is pretty objectively called that. That Bowen is talking about. And he'll finish the film.
- [28:58]
Bowen Yang
Yes.
- [28:59]
Matt Rogers
And then we will talk about. At which time I will reveal. I also haven't seen it.
- [29:04]
Bowen Yang
Oh, yes.
- [29:04]
Matt Rogers
So I'm just saying you're not alone in this. You have sisterhood.
- [29:07]
Bowen Yang
We should see it together.
- [29:08]
Matt Rogers
Okay, fine. Because. Because this is a kind of like calling back to the era of. I had never seen Sound of Music. You had never seen Jaws.
- [29:17]
Bowen Yang
And now we. We. It's another movie that neither of us now. It's a movie.
- [29:20]
Matt Rogers
It is a movie on that level.
- [29:21]
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Yes, of course.
- [29:23]
Matt Rogers
So. So you've been watching a lot of films.
- [29:25]
Bowen Yang
A lot of films.
- [29:26]
Matt Rogers
Are you behind on the bravo of it all? I'm caught up on.
- [29:29]
Bowen Yang
On Miami and OC I'm also caught.
- [29:32]
Matt Rogers
Up on OC I have not.
- [29:33]
Bowen Yang
I've not watched Next Gen NYC beyond the first episode.
- [29:37]
Matt Rogers
It's not for me. I don't think.
- [29:38]
Bowen Yang
All good. Rooting for everybody.
- [29:41]
Matt Rogers
For everybody. We love everybody. In the words of Mariah Carey, everybody.
- [29:46]
Bowen Yang
And I finished the pit on the plane home. Finally.
- [29:51]
Matt Rogers
What is your deal with the pit?
- [29:53]
Bowen Yang
I love it because I can't, you.
- [29:54]
Matt Rogers
Know, I can't do that there. It's.
- [29:55]
Bowen Yang
It's pretty gory. There's moments. There's moments of, whoa. I can't believe they're. I can't believe we're seeing this.
- [30:00]
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
- [30:01]
Bowen Yang
But it's excellent. Excellent performances. No, Wiley King.
- [30:05]
Matt Rogers
Noah Wiley being back. Oh, he doesn't wear scrubs in this.
- [30:08]
Bowen Yang
Huh? He technically has scrubs and he, like, has a hoodie over it. Dr. Robbie. But it's just so wonderful. Oh, what a. What a great Dr. Robbie. What a. What a king. Yeah.
- [30:17]
Matt Rogers
Dr. Robbie has his name.
- [30:18]
Bowen Yang
Is his name. Yeah, yeah. Dr. Rob.
- [30:20]
Matt Rogers
You are smiling. I love him.
- [30:22]
Bowen Yang
I love him.
- [30:23]
Matt Rogers
Have you ever told him this?
- [30:24]
Bowen Yang
No.
- [30:25]
Matt Rogers
Would you? I'm sure, you know, today I'm a little anxious because it's. When it comes to speaking about shooting your shot with celebrities.
- [30:34]
Bowen Yang
Yes.
- [30:34]
Matt Rogers
I haven't seen our hot ones versus.
- [30:37]
Bowen Yang
I think it's about to go up.
- [30:38]
Matt Rogers
Is it about to go up?
- [30:39]
Bowen Yang
I think it's going up today at some point.
- [30:41]
Matt Rogers
I know it's going up today.
- [30:42]
Bowen Yang
And you shoot a shot.
- [30:43]
Matt Rogers
They were. One of the things was like, shoot a shot in real time. Like, like, one of the things was like, shoot your shot in real time with a celebrity. And then bone was like, Sebastian, Stan. And I'm like, no, I don't want to eat a wing because they really were hot.
- [30:56]
Bowen Yang
Right.
- [30:56]
Matt Rogers
And I was like, I'm going to do this for real.
- [30:58]
Bowen Yang
Oh yeah. I. I admire you for.
- [31:00]
Matt Rogers
And so I shot a shot that I've. That I've. I crush of mine for a decade. 15 years.
- [31:06]
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Yeah.
- [31:07]
Matt Rogers
Which was. Which was Mr. Groff Love. And the thing is like that spitter me in the second round with my mouth open. No, just kidding. I want to be respectful.
- [31:21]
Bowen Yang
Ish.
- [31:22]
Matt Rogers
But no, I was really shy afterwards. I was like, oh, no. And I already. I'd already asked them to take one thing out because I. I got a little carried away and I was like, yeah, take that out. So I was like, I'm not gonna go back and ask them to edit this out. But it's out there.
- [31:38]
Bowen Yang
That's okay.
- [31:39]
Matt Rogers
It's out there.
- [31:40]
Bowen Yang
It's okay to shoot your shot sometimes.
- [31:42]
Matt Rogers
Sometimes it is. And I was like, you know, and.
- [31:45]
Bowen Yang
It could work very well work.
- [31:47]
Matt Rogers
The wings were really hot.
- [31:48]
Bowen Yang
They were very hot.
- [31:49]
Matt Rogers
Should we reveal what the next day was like? We were sick.
- [31:51]
Bowen Yang
I had a harder time doing verses sort of gi wise than I did regular hot ones.
- [31:58]
Matt Rogers
Do you want to know why it's the last dab?
- [32:00]
Bowen Yang
Because it was last stop all the way around.
- [32:01]
Matt Rogers
Yes. So basically the way the bat show works is there's six wings in front of you that I guess are the six questions or rounds. And they're all.
- [32:10]
Bowen Yang
They're all the last dab. Yeah.
- [32:12]
Matt Rogers
Which is the 10th wing in the hot one sequence. So it follows it's two after da bomb, which is like a life ruin.
- [32:19]
Bowen Yang
The bomb is like. The bomb is what is like scorches the earth in last dab. It's like. It's a soft ish landing, but it's still very intense. But the like, I would rather have the progression than full last dab. Full blast.
- [32:33]
Matt Rogers
Yeah. That's the thing is it was like I was like, oh. I was even talking at the. At the top, being like, like, this is not that bad. But there is a build.
- [32:41]
Bowen Yang
No, it. It adds up.
- [32:42]
Matt Rogers
And I felt not good the next day neither.
- [32:46]
Bowen Yang
But I think you did better than.
- [32:47]
Matt Rogers
I did in terms of how I felt.
- [32:50]
Bowen Yang
In terms of how you felt.
- [32:51]
Matt Rogers
I do think that. And if I might say, my stomach has a little more fortitude than yours.
- [32:56]
Bowen Yang
Yes. And I. First of all, I don't think so, honey. Ever being like, Bowen's gonna win. Yeah. Like, don't talk about my friend like that.
- [33:04]
Matt Rogers
That is them just assuming that you are going to like, be more po.
- [33:10]
Bowen Yang
Right.
- [33:11]
Matt Rogers
I think that with love, y' all really assume I'm some sort of freak or a mess. And no, I see you, I see you talking about me this way. I see what your opinions on me are.
- [33:22]
Bowen Yang
You did come to my mind when I was eating crab in Dandong, which is a harbor town and known for their seafood, and I was trying to break this crab open and I was like, I, Matt would do this so, so well.
- [33:37]
Matt Rogers
Well, I'm a trained crab, so I'm sort of the Noah Wiley in the pit of crabs. You know what I mean? I sor them open, crack them open, go in the corner. After I've worked really hard and saved lives out there and I just sobbed to myself, get my Emmy nom. I wonder if 10 years ago I would have felt that way because now it's like spicy foods. It's different. Roller coasters, it's different.
- [33:58]
Bowen Yang
Which really vulnerable for you to, to admit.
- [34:01]
Matt Rogers
Honestly, it's.
- [34:02]
Bowen Yang
You used to be a coaster queen.
- [34:03]
Matt Rogers
I'll just never forget who I used to be. She used to be mine. Like I, I used to be that girl that was like, like I just talked about this actually on. Well, I don't even know if it's announced because I don't, I don't. So I shouldn't say. But a friend of ours, two friends of ours have a new podcast and we were talking about just doing roller coasters and being like a daredevil and stuff. Like when I was little, I used to like be the. I talked about this on this podcast. Jumped out of a plane, etc. I do one or two roller coasters in a row now and it's a full rap biologically.
- [34:39]
Bowen Yang
Well, physically, to be fair, the last time you felt this was when we had to ride the Stardust racers twice. Two times within like five minutes.
- [34:50]
Matt Rogers
Right after we shot hot ones.
- [34:52]
Bowen Yang
Right after we shot. Oh, was that.
- [34:54]
Matt Rogers
Do you remember that?
- [34:55]
Bowen Yang
Oh, I can't get the title.
- [34:57]
Matt Rogers
I think it was literally, it was. We. We had shot hot ones then the next day got on the plane to go down there and did the roller coasters or.
- [35:06]
Bowen Yang
Yes, that's what it was.
- [35:07]
Matt Rogers
Yeah, right.
- [35:08]
Bowen Yang
We shot hot ones a while ago.
- [35:10]
Matt Rogers
Yes, they. They really banked that episode. And I was like, when is this gonna come out? And now it's obviously come out at the perfect time.
- [35:15]
Bowen Yang
Right.
- [35:16]
Matt Rogers
But like that, that week, that, like week and a half when we were flying down doing the roller coasters and then doing a hot ones in the same week, that was, that was a test of the stomach and I think I had to.
- [35:29]
Bowen Yang
I went to Wicked. After. After Stardust, after Epic Universe.
- [35:35]
Matt Rogers
You went to Wicked.
- [35:37]
Bowen Yang
Oh.
- [35:37]
Matt Rogers
Oh, I. Oh, no, no, we can say. We can say you did research.
- [35:41]
Bowen Yang
We did research.
- [35:41]
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
- [35:42]
Bowen Yang
Oh, oh, right. Hold on. Let me. Let me look this up. Okay. Hot one.
- [35:46]
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Look at the calendar. I'm almost positive that it was like.
- [35:49]
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
- [35:50]
Matt Rogers
Yep.
- [35:50]
Bowen Yang
May 19th.
- [35:51]
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah.
- [35:52]
Bowen Yang
And that was two days after the SNL finale.
- [35:56]
Matt Rogers
Yep. Oh, yeah, I remember this. And then we did.
- [36:00]
Bowen Yang
We went to Epic Universe. And then I went to. Oh, my God. I went to London, England to do Wicked Reshoot.
- [36:07]
Matt Rogers
No, the. The. Sometimes you look back at your own schedule and you're like, what? I remember there was one year.
- [36:12]
Bowen Yang
I'm telling you, this was.
- [36:13]
Matt Rogers
This is my first day off in months. And this is technically work, even though we don't think of it as work, especially these episodes. And by the way, I do think that we are going to make a conscious effort to just be us for a while. Like, I genuinely do feel like I'm going through some. Some sort of new return to Saturn. Like, interesting, because it's. I. Is this a thing that I could talk to, get you.
- [36:36]
Bowen Yang
Get someone to do another chart reading for you?
- [36:38]
Matt Rogers
Is. Am I making it up that, like, there's something to, like, every seven years? I don't know, because it feels like 35, 28, 21, 14 and seven are, like, times of awakening. Like, I feel like seven years old is when my. Honestly, when my eyes opened up to, like, what culture was for me. And then because of the Titanic of it all. And, like, all that, 14 was like, certainly, like, Like, I. I remember being that age and being like, that was like eighth into ninth grade, which was horrible. And, like, you know, another change. 21 is obviously you're 21. So many. So much things become available to you. Like, etc, like, kind of like settling into my body as like, a gay person. 28 is obviously returned to Saturn. Like, etc. And now I feel like at 35 again, I'm, like, looking at my life in a certain way and being like, okay, hey, I've been in denial about this. This makes me happy. This does not. This person has a belonging. This person no longer does. Like, I don't. Are you in that place? Because obviously, you know, yeah, changes.
- [37:41]
Bowen Yang
It's. Yes, I am certainly in that place, but I am also not 35 yet.
- [37:46]
Matt Rogers
Well, we're gonna have a great birthday for you.
- [37:56]
Bowen Yang
The verses is up.
- [37:57]
Matt Rogers
The verses is up.
- [37:58]
Bowen Yang
Do we watch? No, that's weird.
- [37:59]
Matt Rogers
No, we'll watch it after. We'll watch it after, but okay, well, that's fun.
- [38:03]
Bowen Yang
That's fun.
- [38:04]
Matt Rogers
Something to share on social, which we absolutely love.
- [38:12]
Kelly Harnett
Kelly Harnett spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit.
- [38:18]
iHeart Podcast
I'm 100% innocent.
- [38:20]
Kelly Harnett
While behind bars, she learned the law from scratch because.
- [38:24]
iHeart Podcast
Oh, God. Harnett, jailhouse lawyer.
- [38:27]
Kelly Harnett
And as she fought for herself, she also became a lifeline for the women locked up alongside her.
- [38:32]
Matt Rogers
You're supposed to have your faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her.
- [38:36]
Kelly Harnett
So many of these women had lived the same stories.
- [38:39]
iHeart Podcast
I said, were you a victim of domestic violence? And she was like, yeah, yeah, but.
- [38:44]
Kelly Harnett
Maybe Kelly could change the ending.
- [38:48]
iHeart Podcast
I said, how many people have gotten other incarcerated individuals out of here? I'm going to be the first one to do that.
- [38:57]
Kelly Harnett
This is the story of Kelly Harnett, a woman who spent 12 years fighting not just for her own freedom, but her girlfriend's too.
- [39:05]
iHeart Podcast
I think I have a mission from God to save souls by getting people out. Out of prison.
- [39:10]
Kelly Harnett
The girlfriends, Jailhouse lawyer. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [39:21]
Chris
My Uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about. He was the kind of guy that used Confederate flags as window curtains, lived in a trailer with an ex con and a retired stripper, left loaded machine guns laying around, drank a bottle of whiskey a night, claimed he could kill a man with his bare hands, drove a garbage truck for a living, spoke fluent Spanish with a thick southern accent, and is currently buried in a crypt alongside the founding families of Panama. Listen to the Uncle Chris podcast to hear all about him and a whole lot more. This collection of stories will make you laugh, it'll make you cry. And if I do my job right, they'll let you see the world and your place in it in a whole new way. I can't wait to tell you all about Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.
- [40:13]
Bowen Yang
Readers, Katies, publicists, finalists, and of course, Kyle's. Listen up.
- [40:18]
Matt Rogers
The time has come. You've asked and we've answered the call. Las Culturistas is getting our own YouTube channel.
- [40:24]
Bowen Yang
You heard that, right. Check out full episodes, iconic interviews, visual bits, and culture moments that'll change your life.
- [40:31]
Matt Rogers
We could not be more excited to launch the channel with the announcement of our culture award nominations, so don't wait.
- [40:37]
Bowen Yang
Be sure to watch las culturistas on YouTube@YouTube.com lasculturistas so what happened to Chappaquiddick?
- [40:45]
Ted Kennedy
Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
- [40:47]
Bowen Yang
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy.
- [40:52]
Matt Rogers
Drove a car into a pond and left a woman behind to drown.
- [40:57]
Ted Kennedy
There's a famous headline, I think, in.
- [40:58]
Matt Rogers
The New York Daily News, it's teddy escapes, blonde drowns.
- [41:02]
Ted Kennedy
And in a strange way, right, that.
- [41:05]
Matt Rogers
Sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
- [41:16]
Robert
And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
- [41:19]
Matt Rogers
The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, race.
- [41:21]
Bowen Yang
Affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
- [41:29]
Robert
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever.
- [41:34]
Matt Rogers
You get your podcast. My computer just crashed, you guys.
- [41:44]
Bowen Yang
What's the astrology on that?
- [41:46]
Matt Rogers
I think it means we have to do. I don't think so, honey.
- [41:49]
Bowen Yang
It does. It does.
- [41:50]
Matt Rogers
Wait, but I did want to ask you, have you seen Superman yet?
- [41:52]
Bowen Yang
Yes. Oh, my God, I loved that movie. So much fun. Brazilian. I mean, I love Rachel. Mr. Corn Sweat.
- [41:59]
Matt Rogers
He hasn't. Has the world found its hottest person?
- [42:03]
Bowen Yang
It's. I forgot who posted this on. On socials, but they were like, I love that the kid that. The PR for this movie, the campaign for this movie is just, look at how hot this guy is. And I love how much it's going to work. And it did.
- [42:14]
Matt Rogers
Oh, it absolutely worked on me. And also. So one thing I think that movie needs to get more credit for is that long scene between Clark and Lois. Like, it was like a really long scene of just dialogue.
- [42:28]
Bowen Yang
It was like 12 minutes of dialogue.
- [42:30]
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And I was like, they're both so good. And Rachel is just like, what a star. She's such a star, and we love her so much. And just the really intelligent back and forth they were having, like. Like early in this movie. And then, you know, the rest of it just being so kind of just like unabashedly about going for the joke a couple times, I was like, wow, we are really broad. But I never was mad. I was just like, this is the energy we need.
- [42:59]
Bowen Yang
No, just that whole scene of them also with, like, the. The alien in the background. I was like, yeah, that.
- [43:05]
Matt Rogers
Loved that, Loved that.
- [43:06]
Bowen Yang
Like, it reminded me of, like, Scary Movie three.
- [43:09]
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah.
- [43:10]
Bowen Yang
Naked Gun. Esque movies, which I'm really excited to see.
- [43:12]
Matt Rogers
So excited. I think this is my favorite James Gun, actually, because, you know, famously, we did not live for Guardians.
- [43:19]
Bowen Yang
Right.
- [43:20]
Matt Rogers
But we've said on the podcast this was years and years and years ago, Bowen, Yang and I walked out of Gardens. We walked out of two films together in history, and they were Gardens First, Guardians and Oppenheimer.
- [43:35]
Bowen Yang
Oh, and Oppenheimer. Right. And directors who we love, directors we.
- [43:39]
Matt Rogers
Absolutely love, or else we wouldn't have been there.
- [43:40]
Bowen Yang
Exactly.
- [43:41]
Matt Rogers
So. But the thing is, this Superman movie, I was just like, wow. Like, real. I could feel. And I really liked his Suicide Squad, too.
- [43:50]
Bowen Yang
I liked his Suicide Squad, too.
- [43:51]
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I just, like, really like his sense of humor, and I thought it worked really well here. And yeah, I mean, incredibly, incredibly hot and talented lead actor playing Superman. Like, let's go. He's actually the inspo for my haircut currently. I sat down in the chair with Thomas O. I see it in Hollywood, baby. Shout out. And I said, corn sweat.
- [44:14]
Bowen Yang
Oh, my God. Which. Is that how you pronounce it? I. I feel like the E is. The first e is silent.
- [44:20]
Matt Rogers
Corn sweat.
- [44:20]
Bowen Yang
It's like. It's like if. If corn would. Could sweat.
- [44:23]
Matt Rogers
That is hot.
- [44:24]
Bowen Yang
Corn sweat. I.
- [44:26]
Matt Rogers
It could be. It could be a hot. It's.
- [44:28]
Bowen Yang
It's not the hottest last name there is. What is Smith.
- [44:32]
Matt Rogers
Wait, I was gonna say Smith. I was literally like, is he about to say Smith? I said John Smith.
- [44:38]
Bowen Yang
But I also. It's. It's also the most generic.
- [44:41]
Matt Rogers
You need to examine that. Oh, you're colonized. You have colonized, by the way.
- [44:46]
Bowen Yang
In our devastation, thinking that we had lost an episode because Matt's audio. Matt's computer crashed. We watched. We thought we watched our hot ones versus.
- [44:53]
Matt Rogers
We cheered ourselves up by watching our hot ones versus. We love it.
- [44:56]
Bowen Yang
It's so fun. That team first refuse. Team great.
- [44:59]
Matt Rogers
They talk about going for the joke.
- [45:02]
Bowen Yang
They get it. They get it.
- [45:03]
Matt Rogers
A team who gets it so deeply over there. We love them and love doing it. And even though we felt sick after, that's part of it.
- [45:09]
Bowen Yang
No. And it was worth it.
- [45:10]
Matt Rogers
And so we each ate four.
- [45:12]
Bowen Yang
We each ate two.
- [45:13]
Matt Rogers
We each ate two. No, I think there was two left.
- [45:17]
Bowen Yang
No, we only ate. No, we each ate two wings. Girl.
- [45:19]
Matt Rogers
I don't know.
- [45:20]
Bowen Yang
You watch it back.
- [45:22]
Matt Rogers
And you can, too. On YouTube.
- [45:24]
Bowen Yang
On YouTube.
- [45:25]
Matt Rogers
At first, we feast. Okay, so maybe it's time for. I'm trying to think. Because, of course, there's, like, more things in culture that we miss. Absolutely. Ghislaine. Is getting interviewed, I guess, right now. Huh?
- [45:36]
Bowen Yang
Huh?
- [45:37]
Matt Rogers
Remember our episode about Ghis?
- [45:38]
Bowen Yang
One of our best.
- [45:39]
Matt Rogers
One of our best. And now she's like, back, what is going on?
- [45:43]
Bowen Yang
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I, I, I have. We have theories, but we, we can't. We can't.
- [45:48]
Matt Rogers
I have so many theories. I've actually become quite the little conspiracy theorist about the whole thing.
- [45:52]
Bowen Yang
Look, this, this was all, this was all where it's, it was headed, you know, like, we're all conspiracy theorists now. And the left needs its own queue.
- [46:02]
Matt Rogers
Love needs its own cue. Maybe it's us.
- [46:05]
Bowen Yang
I'm. We would be amazing cues.
- [46:07]
Matt Rogers
We. Amazing cues. We'd be incredible.
- [46:10]
Bowen Yang
Have a fun cult.
- [46:11]
Matt Rogers
Yeah, we kind of do.
- [46:14]
Bowen Yang
Right?
- [46:14]
Matt Rogers
And thank you all you cultists out there. Should we just really do away with our PKPFs and just say our RKPFK? See, now we. See, this is what I'm saying. It's getting too.
- [46:26]
Bowen Yang
I was trying to lump Kyle's into the Katies. I, I'm not here to say I told you so, but you can't put.
- [46:31]
Matt Rogers
The genie back in the bottle because the genie is out flexing his big muscles and that's Kyle.
- [46:36]
Bowen Yang
I'm not hearing from enough Kyle's. So that's.
- [46:38]
Matt Rogers
I'm gonna say you're on the shopping block.
- [46:41]
Bowen Yang
I'm gonna invisibilize Kyle's until they prove otherwise to me.
- [46:45]
Matt Rogers
Can you guys please. Kyle should be in Bowen Yang's DMS being nice, okay? Not prescriptive.
- [46:53]
Bowen Yang
No, it's fine.
- [46:53]
Matt Rogers
Not judgmental, only nice.
- [46:56]
Bowen Yang
It's fine.
- [46:57]
Matt Rogers
Okay, so this is. I don't think so, honey. Yep, it's our time. It's our moment in the, in the, in that episode to sort of rant and rail against something in pop culture or culture at large. I'm gonna be attacking culture at large.
- [47:08]
Bowen Yang
Okay?
- [47:08]
Matt Rogers
This is something that, you know, it's one of my vices. Requires me to do something, and I'm having a problem doing it.
- [47:15]
Bowen Yang
Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so Honey's time starts now.
- [47:18]
Matt Rogers
I don't think so, honey. The packaging on weed. Like, you can't open these things.
- [47:25]
Bowen Yang
What kind of weed?
- [47:26]
Matt Rogers
I'm talking about like pre rolls, okay? That you would get it. Like an official weed store. Like one of those Apple stores for weed in la. I don't think the way that they sell this stuff also, by the way, this, I'm not even going to say what it is because I don't want the brand to feel embarrassed. This is hard to open, but once.
- [47:41]
Bowen Yang
You get the hang of it, like.
- [47:43]
Matt Rogers
I'm telling you, edibles, pre rolls, like, I haven't even really engaged anything.
- [47:47]
Bowen Yang
They're childproofing.
- [47:48]
Matt Rogers
Childproofing. But in. In the childproofing, you've also Matt Rogers proofed it. And that is going to happen when you childproof. You're going to also Matt Rogers proof. And I am your grown ass fingers. Let me tell you something.
- [48:00]
Bowen Yang
I can't open.
- [48:02]
Matt Rogers
It's not as simple as squeezing the sides and then pop. But it has to be because that's what you've said will do the trick. But it doesn't do the trick. Me and Melissa were banging our heads against the walls trying to smoke some indica. Oh. And I'm like, babe, I'm on the other planet of stress now. I really need it. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute readers, if you feel me, please reach out and tell me that I'm not crazy and alone in this because the packaging on marijuana has become restrictive.
- [48:30]
Bowen Yang
Criticize him. Him.
- [48:32]
Matt Rogers
Criticize me, please.
- [48:33]
Bowen Yang
Kidding.
- [48:34]
Matt Rogers
No, honestly, if I'm an idiot. If I'm an idiot, tell me. But I also don't think I am because I'm. I had a, you know, a witness there in Melissa, and we were really. We could not open it.
- [48:45]
Bowen Yang
No. She can do anything.
- [48:46]
Matt Rogers
She can do it all.
- [48:47]
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
- [48:48]
Matt Rogers
You know how frustrating it is to be there, a full grown human alongside someone who can do it all and neither of you. No. Can do a thing.
- [48:55]
Bowen Yang
I didn't mean to doubt you. I just.
- [48:56]
Matt Rogers
No, because I mean, what. The next time I have a problem, I'll just FaceTime you and show you. Because, like, like.
- [49:01]
Bowen Yang
But no, I ran into this recently. I bought a pack. I bought a pre roll package and I was like, okay. All right.
- [49:07]
Matt Rogers
It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays.
- [49:11]
Bowen Yang
It's like getting into Fort Knox.
- [49:13]
Matt Rogers
It's like. It's full of culture number 18. It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays. You haven't. I don't think so, honey.
- [49:21]
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Although I don't.
- [49:22]
Matt Rogers
I can't.
- [49:23]
Bowen Yang
I'm gonna find it as like.
- [49:25]
Matt Rogers
Okay, okay, okay.
- [49:27]
Bowen Yang
Here we go.
- [49:27]
Matt Rogers
That is a way to do things.
- [49:28]
Bowen Yang
Okay, great.
- [49:29]
Matt Rogers
This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. And his time start. I don't think so, honey.
- [49:33]
Bowen Yang
On the culture, not knowing where we have landed on the Labubu vs Lefufuu discourse. It Seems like now we're favoring lefufu more because we are, you know, we see boo boos as this artificial scarcity, you know, example. And why are we gatekeeping, you know, this trend from so many people? But at the same time, now it seems like we've overcorrected into the lefoufuu, where we, like, are kind of putting more value in the lefufu because they're fake. Take. And because 30 seconds. But you can't knock off a culture that has thrived on knockoffs for decades at this point. I'm talking about China. They will beat us at this game. Labubus will emerge as the victor.
- [50:17]
Matt Rogers
15 seconds.
- [50:18]
Bowen Yang
I, for the longest time, was resisting the Labubu craze. And I finally went to the place of origin, and I thought, well, I walked into a pop mart, and I went, 5 seconds. This is glorious. And I'm seeing the people shake the boxes because they. They can tell by the way and the feel. Feel which ones are different. And I'm like, this is a turn I want to be on board for.
- [50:36]
Matt Rogers
And that's one minute. So we found out yesterday that the way you can tell a lefufu from a labubu is the number of teeth.
- [50:44]
Bowen Yang
Yes.
- [50:44]
Matt Rogers
I said, this is crazy. It's biological.
- [50:47]
Bowen Yang
It's biological. I. I think this is filling the void in my heart. A lot of healing happened on this trip. That. That's the other headline. And we.
- [50:54]
Matt Rogers
You had perspective, you healed.
- [50:56]
Bowen Yang
Yes. And, you know, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, all the trips prior to this one were about me, like, being in the closet and staying in the. And I didn't necessarily come out to anyone on this trip, but the way I was being discussed on trying to social media made it very apparent to the people who were on social media, to my family members who were on social media. And I was like, you know what? I kind of like it this way that I didn't have to broach the subject.
- [51:21]
Matt Rogers
External delights.
- [51:22]
Bowen Yang
External delights. But if this also healed for me, was never allowed to have a single Beanie Baby. Growing up.
- [51:29]
Matt Rogers
This was my dad with Tamagotchis.
- [51:32]
Bowen Yang
Interesting.
- [51:32]
Matt Rogers
He was like, why would I get you that you have a dog?
- [51:35]
Bowen Yang
Well, period.
- [51:36]
Matt Rogers
I mean, can't really argue with that. But it was devastating.
- [51:40]
Bowen Yang
Of course.
- [51:41]
Matt Rogers
Have a Beanie Baby.
- [51:42]
Bowen Yang
Couldn't have a Beanie baby.
- [51:43]
Matt Rogers
What was their reasoning for that?
- [51:45]
Bowen Yang
They were like, these are gonna be all over the house. Like, literally. So when we moved to the States, we would go into, like, open houses and go to look at people's houses in Colorado and suburban Colorado, and would be. You know, we. Yang and I would freak out. I remember there's one room. There's one kid's room full of beanie babies, and we were like, oh, my God, mom and dad. Look at how many baby beanie babies they have. They go, yeah, no way. Is grotesque.
- [52:10]
Matt Rogers
Not at my home.
- [52:11]
Bowen Yang
Not in my home. You're. You're not having those things in our house.
- [52:14]
Matt Rogers
See, I think would. So they saw an example of an extreme.
- [52:18]
Bowen Yang
Yes. And they went, we're not touching. I mean, it was this. It was just austerity, and it's. It's immigrant parents. And I told. I don't begrudge them of that. That. I just think all these years later, I had to heal that child.
- [52:32]
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
- [52:32]
Bowen Yang
You need my labubu, and I love my labubu.
- [52:35]
Matt Rogers
Can you show your labo?
- [52:36]
Bowen Yang
I've got one labubu here. I've got the blue one.
- [52:39]
Matt Rogers
Oh, that's really good.
- [52:40]
Bowen Yang
I've got. And then another one came in. I'm gonna.
- [52:43]
Matt Rogers
That is good. Okay. So I have not really engaged in labuu or lefufu culture.
- [52:47]
Bowen Yang
Do you want my labu? I have another labubu.
- [52:49]
Matt Rogers
I don't think. No, you take it. Because I feel like if I want. If I want one, I will pick. I will find the lubu for me.
- [52:56]
Bowen Yang
But how much is. Depends.
- [53:00]
Matt Rogers
Okay, well, talk about that.
- [53:02]
Bowen Yang
I think if you go on StockX.com, you can buy one for, like, 40 bucks.
- [53:05]
Matt Rogers
And what's the. What's an example of an expensive labubu?
- [53:09]
Bowen Yang
Like, if you want to, like, really, like, go for, I don't know, the premium ones, it could go, like, 100, 200.
- [53:16]
Matt Rogers
Okay.
- [53:16]
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
- [53:17]
Matt Rogers
See, I thought it was so out of control that we were talking, like, like, couple thousand dollars laboo.
- [53:23]
Bowen Yang
No, no.
- [53:24]
Matt Rogers
See, I. But that's the thing is, it's like, with things like this that become a fashion accessory, like, where is the ceiling on what people would pay for that? Like, you have to imagine, like, you know, for some people, there probably is no ceiling if you love it that much.
- [53:37]
Bowen Yang
Wait, you said the lefufu can't turn their head around. The labubu can turn its head around. I just turned it.
- [53:42]
Matt Rogers
Well, maybe you have a lefufu.
- [53:44]
Bowen Yang
No, I count nine teeth, and that is the real number.
- [53:47]
Matt Rogers
That's not nine.
- [53:48]
Bowen Yang
That's nine. All right, I have another one. I have another one in my room.
- [53:53]
Matt Rogers
He's gonna get the. The other labubu, and we're Actually going to count the teeth right now to find out if it's real or not. This is a huge thing in culture and this is Las Culturista. So if you are already at max with the labubu, by the way, like, okay, this is really good.
- [54:09]
Bowen Yang
In two seconds these are going to be out of style. We're going to look like 1, 2.
- [54:13]
Matt Rogers
3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. So this is real.
- [54:16]
Bowen Yang
And then can you turn it 10 around? I think they can all. They can all have their heads.
- [54:21]
Matt Rogers
This one doesn't turn around. That's what I'm saying. Like by the way, I don't want to snap its head off. Cuz this is what. I don't know what you paid for it. I don't want to ask you what you paid for it. But like by the way, this one is cute. Maybe I will take this one.
- [54:35]
Bowen Yang
Take her.
- [54:35]
Matt Rogers
Would you gift it to me?
- [54:36]
Bowen Yang
Yes.
- [54:36]
Matt Rogers
You don't want to give it up?
- [54:38]
Bowen Yang
No. That's yours.
- [54:39]
Matt Rogers
This is mine?
- [54:40]
Bowen Yang
Yes. I think that's a really.
- [54:41]
Matt Rogers
Okay, we're going to take a photo with our boo boos and that's going to be the episode.
- [54:45]
Bowen Yang
That's going to be the episode.
- [54:45]
Matt Rogers
External delay. Yes, this has been an internal delight in terms of the people that make and create Las Culturistas, Bowen, Yang and myself. And we have to say one more time that the Las Culturistas Culture awards are on August 5th on Bravo. So real thing to say, we are going to be, you know, on watch what happens live on Monday night and we're going to be chatting with the man himself, Andy Cohen, who does factor into the show along with a lot of your faves and yeah, it streams the next down peacock. Anything you want to say to prime the readers and more? Because maybe they should just be called that.
- [55:22]
Bowen Yang
Readers and more the readers and more. Interesting. Well, we can't. We can't. Now you're really trying to put the genie back in the bottle. I think it will be out of this world.
- [55:34]
Matt Rogers
That's a hint.
- [55:34]
Bowen Yang
That's a hint.
- [55:35]
Matt Rogers
Okay, well you guys are some leboohus out there. And all you lefufoos, we can tell we end every episode we with a song. Don't close my eyes I don't want to fall asleep. Cause I miss you babe. And I don't want to miss a thing. For more of that, watch the Culture Awards. Bye.
- [56:04]
Bowen Yang
Las Culturistas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.
- [56:09]
Matt Rogers
Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier.
- [56:14]
Bowen Yang
And produced by Becca Ross, edited and mixed by Doug Bateman, Monique Laborde and.
- [56:17]
Matt Rogers
Our music is by Henry Kabursky.
- [56:25]
Bowen Yang
Readers, Katies Publicists Finalists and of course, Kyle's Listen up.
- [56:30]
Matt Rogers
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- [56:36]
Bowen Yang
You heard that, right. Check out full episodes, iconic interviews, visual bits and culture moments that'll change your life. Life.
- [56:43]
Matt Rogers
We could not be more excited to launch the channel with the announcement of our Culture Award nominations.
- [56:48]
Bowen Yang
So don't wait. Be sure to watch las culturistas on YouTube@YouTube.com lasculturistas When I became a journalist.
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Bowen Yang
And here's Heather with the weather.
- [57:56]
Robert
Well, it's beautiful out there. Sunny and 75, almost a little chilly in the shade. Now let's get a read on the inside of your car.
- [58:05]
Kelly Harnett
It is hot.
- [58:07]
Robert
You've only been parked a short time and it's already 99 degrees in there.
- [58:11]
Bowen Yang
There.
- [58:11]
Robert
Let's not leave children in the backseat while running errands. It only takes a few minutes for their body temperatures to rise and that could be fatal.
- [58:19]
Matt Rogers
Cars get hot fast and can be deadly. Never leave a child in a car. A message from NHTSA and the Ad Council.
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