“Gay Guys With Voices” (w/ Jake Shane)

Summary

Las Culturistas - “Gay Guys With Voices” (w/ Jake Shane)

Podcast: Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang
Guest: Jake Shane (host of Therapist)
Original Air Date: October 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Las Culturistas celebrates the triumphant, comedic, and deeply personal relationship gay men have with pop culture and each other. Joined by Jake Shane—a rising cultural commentator, podcast host, and “gay guy with a voice”—the discussion is a lively exploration of formative pop moments, iconic albums, live shows, girl group drama, audience etiquette, industry changes, and the feeling of being “seen” by and through culture. The episode is filled with passionate arguments, heartfelt stories, and hysterical anecdotes, all delivered in the inimitable, quick-witted, and loving Las Culturistas tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jake Shane’s Introduction and Pop-Culture Bonding

• The hosts quickly embrace Jake as “their daughter” and share how instantly “gagged” they were by his presence and connection with the audience at his live shows.
• Matt jokes that science must be advanced if “gay guys can have a child together”—referring to their intense connection with Jake.
• Quote: “If you didn’t think gay guys could get each other pregnant…honey, honey, check my anus.” — Matt (05:02)

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2. Formative Pop Culture & Rule of Culture: “Culture is When a Woman Does Something Seriously”

• The trio revisit the Las Culturistas “Rules of Culture,” especially:
  • “When a woman does something seriously, a gay guy does something as a joke, or a straight guy does something good by accident.”
  • They agree it's “actually biblical.”
• Quote: “Culture is when a woman does something seriously. A gay guy does something as a joke or a straight guy does something good by accident.” — Group (07:30)

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3. Food Snobbery & Destination Dining

• The group discusses their favorite destination restaurants, especially LA Thai restaurants. Jake shares that his favorite chef won a James Beard award, leading to a tangent about how powerful “James Beard” sounds as an award name.
• Notable Moment: “Louisiana Thai food is next level. LA Thai food will make you go, I’m sweating in this plastic-covered dining chair in a strip mall, but I’m in heaven.” — Matt (09:34)

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4. Marathons, Performance Art, and the Fetishization of Endurance

• Chat about marathons as performances in their own right, Iron Mans as “disgusting” (in a good way), and even fetishizing the struggle of endurance events.
• Quote: “You love Dylan Efron. You think he’s sexy—himself during the Iron Man. Period.” — Bowen (12:27)

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5. Pop Album Deep Dives: Little Mix, Camila, Taylor Swift, and More

• Little Mix: Bowen offers an extensive primer on Little Mix’s rise, Jesse Nelson’s struggles, and the group’s journey overseas.
  • Memorable Moment: Bowen sings “Sweet Melody” live to illustrate the group’s appeal (15:28).
• Camila Cabello: The group quietly and then publicly declares their “stan” status, breaking down her albums and the critical missteps in song releases.
• Quote: “When that [Camila Cabello] came out, I said, why is no one else caring? It is so good, you guys.” — Jake (16:59)
• Taylor Swift: There’s a gushing celebration of “The Archer” and “Midnights.” Jake talks about an essay he wrote, the mythic nature of Swift’s songs, and their duality of addressing both personal relationships and the fans (19:53–21:29).
  • Quote: “All my enemies started out friends… I can’t ever find someone to stay who could stay.” — Jake (20:31)
• Notable: The trio declares “Midnights” is NOT ‘floppy’—it’s iconic and historic. (21:29)

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6. Peak Pop Girl Albums & The “Comeback Narrative”

• The hosts and Jake agree that pop girls produce their best albums after the world thinks “culture’s had it with them.”
• Examples cited:
  • Lady Gaga’s “Mayhem” (Chromatica era)
  • Taylor’s “Folklore”
  • Mariah’s “Emancipation of Mimi”
• Quote: “Their best album is always when they think culture's given up on them, and they go back to who they are… and then culture's like, wait, we want you back.” — Jake (32:22)

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7. Lady Gaga’s Monster Ball HBO Special (Jake’s Cultural Origin Story)

• Key Segment [28:37–34:00]:
  • Jake’s answer to “What is the culture that made you say ‘culture is for me’?” is the Lady Gaga Fame Monster HBO Special.
  • Quote: “That HBO special is coming out, we have to see it. I remember watching it being like—it’s clicking…I see why my mom wouldn’t let me.” — Jake (29:20)
• The group reminisces about seeing Gaga live and the “best night of everyone’s life” feeling of her concerts.

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8. Ariana Grande’s “Eternal Sunshine” & Pop Excellence

• Key Segment [34:12–37:13]:
  • Jake deems Ari’s “Eternal Sunshine” his album of the year, sharing how “We Can’t Be Friends” instantly stuck with him and became deeply personal.
  • The group talks about the brilliance of Ariana’s song transitions, vocal technique, and her range as a comedic and musical force.
  • Quote: “You can say that it is Thank U Next. I think it is Eternal Sunshine.” — Jake (37:13)

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9. Phones at Concerts, Good and Bad Audiences

• Key Segment [50:26–55:25]
  • They debate concert etiquette—worst and best crowd behaviors, with Taylor Swift’s ERAS Tour and live theater as reference points.
  • Jake proclaims he tries to stay off his phone at shows to fully experience them.
  • Quote: “Every greatest moment of my life at a concert, I remember being… not on my phone. I.E. The Archer, Taylor Swift, The Weekend After Hours, Phoebe Bridgers’ Coachella show…” — Jake (53:32)
  • Best audience: Carly Rae Jepsen fans—“everyone is spiritually Canadian.” (54:37)

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10. On Star Power: Are There Still Celebrities?

• There’s a spirited rebuttal to the “there are no stars anymore” narrative. The group points out new forms of stardom, Kim Kardashian’s cultural evolution, and the fusion of digital and traditional fame.
  • Quote: “There’s no rules anymore…Kim Kardashian from Kim K to Vogue cover star—she is emblematic of the culture shift more than anyone.” — Bowen (63:03–63:21)

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11. The Pop Girl Roundup: Beyoncé, Demi Lovato, and More

• Beyoncé: The group sings “Schoolin’ Life” and agrees that “Four” and the self-titled album are among the best, while praising the arc of Beyoncé’s reinventions.
• Demi Lovato: Anticipation for a new, “deep” album that is “hard club for fags, Brat-influenced but with Demi vocals.” There’s a comedic tangent about Demi’s extraordinarily Brat-coded behavior.
  • Quote: “She did heroin. She was nonbinary for two weeks. She spoke to a ghost. That’s the most Brat-coded.” — Matt & Bowen (69:09)

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12. Miscellaneous Gems

• Video Game Nostalgia: The joys of old Pokémon games (“Silver and Gold”), and how these pop references bond them across generations (74:32).
• Tame Impala and Music Taste: The guys riff on the cross-section of gay taste and indie rock (71:38).
• “I Don’t Think So, Honey”
  • Jake’s impassioned take: “I don’t think so, honey—ordering dessert at the same restaurant you just ordered dinner at. I am uncomfortable…I want to leave.” (84:06)
• Cultural Shorthand: Rules of Culture, inside jokes, and lovingly combative banter run throughout.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Jake Shane on Lady Gaga’s Monster Ball Special
  “I remember watching it being like, it’s clicking… I see why my mom wouldn’t let me. I would be uncomfortable seeing this with my mom. Gaga was really my first love.” — Jake (29:20)
• On Taylor Swift’s “The Archer”:
  “All my enemies started out friends… I can’t ever find someone to stay who could stay.” — Jake (20:31)
• On concert etiquette:
  “Every greatest moment of my life at a concert, I remember being, I wasn’t on my phone.” — Jake (53:32)
• On pop comebacks:
  “Always, their best album is when they think culture’s given up on them. And then culture’s like, wait, we want you back.” — Jake (32:22)
• On the shifting definition of stardom:
  “There’s no rules anymore. Kim Kardashian is the lead of a Ryan Murphy show. That’s the change in our culture.” — Bowen (63:03–63:21)
• Jake’s “I Don’t Think So, Honey”:
  “I don’t think so, honey—ordering dessert at the same restaurant you just ordered dinner at. I am uncomfortable…I want to leave.” (84:06)

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Segment Timestamps

• 03:01 — [Main Show Starts]
• 04:46 — Gagged at Jake Shane's presence, gay “parenthood” banter
• 07:30 — Rule of Culture: When a woman does something seriously…
• 09:49 — LA Thai food, James Beard award chat
• 12:06 — Marathons as “performance;” Iron Man & bodily functions
• 13:00 — Musical deep dive: Jade Thirlwall, Little Mix, Jesse Nelson
• 17:18 — Camila Cabello: album analysis
• 19:53 — Taylor Swift “The Archer” essay & Midnights chat
• 28:37 — Jake’s cultural origin: Lady Gaga’s Monster Ball HBO special
• 34:12 — Ariana Grande’s “Eternal Sunshine”
• 50:26 — Worst/best behaved audiences, phones at concerts
• 54:37 — Best crowd: Carly Rae Jepsen, “spiritually Canadian”
• 63:03 — No more rules: Kim Kardashian as star
• 66:00 — Beyoncé Talk: “Schoolin’ Life” & formative summers
• 69:09 — Demi Lovato: “the most Brat-coded” pop star
• 74:32 — Pokémon and video game bonding
• 84:06 — Jake’s “I Don’t Think So, Honey” (anti-dessert-in-restaurant)
• 88:33 — Jake on “Hacks,” wrap-up and song (“Schoolin’ Life” singalong)

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Conclusion & Tone

This episode is a vibrant, heartfelt, and hilarious tribute to the power of pop culture to unite, console, and inspire—especially for gay men in their relationships to music, stars, and each other. Every tangent is full of love, humor, references, and genuine expertise. If you’re a pop obsessive or just love hearing friends passionately dissect the moments that shaped them, this episode will feel like home.

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Listen for:

• In-depth pop girl analysis
• Hysterical audience etiquette stories
• Multiple “rules of culture”
• A real sense of chosen family and cultural legacy

Essential for any listener who loves pop, the shared language of fandom, and the joy of being a “gay guy with a voice.”

Transcript

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Is that the culture? Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Goodness.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Las Culturistas Ding dong.

[Bowen Yang]

Las Culturistas calling. It's already hot in the studio. And not just because we're wearing fuzzy shirts. Unplanned, right?

[Matt Rogers]

Unplanned. It's these giant panel lights. Oh my God.

[Bowen Yang]

I hope we look stunning under them. Hope it was worth it, guys.

[Matt Rogers]

Hope the rig was the jig. No, not my best. It's early.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what? Not only is it early, last night was one of the great nights and we can't really get into it because it won't come out until November 6th, my birthday. That is your birthday?

[Matt Rogers]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

That's gonna be a huge day for you.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, it's a bad day overall for the world because last year was the day after the election. Of course.

[Jake Shane]

That's why that date sounded familiar.

[Matt Rogers]

That's why that day sounded familiar. Familiar.

[Bowen Yang]

You.

[Matt Rogers]

You know history A little.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, okay, so anyway, that. That was wicked. One wonderful night was shot last shot.

[Matt Rogers]

It last night at the Dolby.

[Bowen Yang]

It was so fantastic.

[Matt Rogers]

I've never seen anything like it. Truly. I'm sorry. Not since the culture Awards was there alive to tape special quite that gagged. So that gagged the girls.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, I'll say this, that today is going to gag the girls because in many ways and many ways on different levels, it's a like event in gay guy podcast history.

[Matt Rogers]

It's an event in family history. Like I think this is. I know you've long claimed that our guest is your daughter.

[Bowen Yang]

I did. I adopted him pretty immediately.

[Matt Rogers]

But I've. I've heard of his answer. Now we're doing a thing where we are learning about the guest's answers to the question beforehand.

[Bowen Yang]

Beforehand so we can get this prepare for the podcast. Unbelievable.

[Matt Rogers]

And as soon as I heard and if you want to change it, no problem. But if it is what I think it is.

[Jake Shane]

It is.

[Matt Rogers]

I said this is my daughter as well.

[Bowen Yang]

My daughter.

[Matt Rogers]

My daughter.

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe we have our first child together. Have you thought about that?

[Matt Rogers]

Science is amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, it's. First of all, if you didn't think gay guys could get each other pregnant.

[Matt Rogers]

Honey, honey, check my anus.

[Bowen Yang]

Honey, check his anus.

[Matt Rogers]

Stop taking that.

[Bowen Yang]

Tylenol, you up?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, honey.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so, honey. Tylenol. That's Trump's. I don't think so, honey. He told us. He told us his. I don't think so, honey. In advance.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, he said he's had a bad week.

[Bowen Yang]

He's coming on the show next week. It's going to be amazing.

[Matt Rogers]

We are recording this in just in case there's like 10 more horrific fire hoses of human suffering. Yeah. By the time this comes out. We're recording this the week of the Tylenol autism announcement.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, he said. He said in advance. I want you to know I don't think so, honey. Is Tylenol my culture? The made me say culture was for me is Benito Mussolini. And I'm ready to go, babe. He's got a stylist picked out for the event. He's gonna wear an even longer red tie.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I. This. This guest is really special to us. I. I've never seen a crowd be in the palm of someone's hand like they were at Radio City for his tour.

[Bowen Yang]

He feeds the children, as it were. He's got so many children.

[Matt Rogers]

He.

[Bowen Yang]

The pussies.

[Matt Rogers]

The pussies.

[Bowen Yang]

And that was such a fun night.

[Matt Rogers]

That was an amazing night.

[Bowen Yang]

I went. Have you yet been on therapist?

[Matt Rogers]

I've not yet been on therapist. I was supposed to make it happen earlier. We're. We're making it happen.

[Bowen Yang]

He's one of the busiest girls in America. I say about both of them. We are so excited. This is beyond. To welcome the host of therapists and cultural icon, the one and only, Jake Shakespeare. We are so happy you're here.

[Jake Shane]

This is the best day of my life. Well, this is. I've literally been waiting for this since the day I was born.

[Bowen Yang]

Sorry. Other days, I know, they suck.

[Matt Rogers]

They suck. Wait. That was a very fun time. And I still remember the story you told. You read letters from the audience, and there was one girl who was fucking a guy and then her roommate fucked him. And then all the roommate had to say was tea.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I remember that, too. That one stuck with me because I really fucked with the roommate after that.

[Bowen Yang]

What do you mean?

[Jake Shane]

I just, like, was like when you behave poorly and you just kind of own it like that and you're just like, sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, like it's kind of everything. T is sorry, though.

[Jake Shane]

T is just Kind of like, get a load of this. Like, you know what I mean?

[Bowen Yang]

That's kind of real culture number eight. T is kind of like, get a load of this.

[Jake Shane]

Wait, you know what I was thinking about the other day with the rule of culture? When a woman does something serious, there was something. I saw something, and I was like, oh. And that's. It made me think of that.

[Bowen Yang]

Culture is when a woman does something.

[Matt Rogers]

Seriously. Seriously.

[Bowen Yang]

A gay guy does something as a joke or a straight guy does something good by accident.

[Jake Shane]

It's, like, actually biblical.

[Bowen Yang]

It's kind of everything.

[Matt Rogers]

It is everything. That's the Celestium original for the Culture Awards. Rule of culture number one. I mean. Yeah, we're still thinking about that, right? Like, what do we. Isn't it so powerful that we're naming that? Yes, that is culture.

[Jake Shane]

That is culture. And by the way, I would just like to say that the Culture Awards were the best night of my life.

[Matt Rogers]

You were incredible.

[Jake Shane]

No, let me fucking tell you. I was there with Louise, and we kept looking at each other like this.

[Bowen Yang]

By the way, Louise is in the building. Louise is in the building. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

In a cardigan. It's fall.

[Bowen Yang]

It's such a fun part of any show to have the characters, the, like, orbital characters, and I feel like you have that, too.

[Jake Shane]

I do.

[Bowen Yang]

You sort of have a Howard Stern.

[Jake Shane]

Vibe, you know, I've never seen Howard Stern.

[Bowen Yang]

That's okay.

[Jake Shane]

That's okay.

[Matt Rogers]

I think you would like him.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. I think so, too. He's like a legend, they say, right?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah, he's sort of a legend, they say. Right. Would we even be in front of mics if he hadn't first been in front of his mic? I'm just saying. Did he create sort of speaking in front of a microphone?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, in a way. I know that much about him.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Well, there's a few things to know about Howard Stern. Incredibly filthy and candid and in front of a microphone.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

And the hair, of course. He's got, like, sort of iconic look.

[Matt Rogers]

What are you hoping for, your birthday?

[Jake Shane]

For my birthday, I think I want to do a birthday dinner if you guys are in town, at my favorite Thai restaurant in the world. And a Jack Thai.

[Bowen Yang]

And a Jack Thai. Where is it?

[Jake Shane]

Okay. It is in Sherman Oaks. I totally might have just lied, but I think it's in Sherman Oaks. Obama ate there the other week.

[Bowen Yang]

He did.

[Jake Shane]

He did. Did.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you get any intel on what he ordered?

[Jake Shane]

You know what? No. And I'm going to ask.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

And it is the greatest Thai food I've ever had in my entire life. And I grew up in New York around really, really great Thai food.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

And it is genuinely the best Thai food I've ever had in my entire life.

[Matt Rogers]

Louisiana Thai food is next level. It is L A Thai food will make you go, I'm sweating in this plastic covered dining chair in a strip mall, but I'm in heaven.

[Jake Shane]

But this, it's like low key Michelin or like he, like he wanted James Beard. The chef wanted James Beard. And so it's like they have like, I think it's Chinese sausage fried rice.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, so good.

[Jake Shane]

Amazing. They have these like little tuna crudo pastry cups. Then they have the classics pad Thai, they have pad GRA pao, but then they have like a few like bougie things. Like they have like a few different crudes frutos and they, they have a big fried chicken dish. So I think that's all I hope is that I have, I can rent out the private room there, do a birthday there. And I don't want to go out. I just want to do that.

[Bowen Yang]

You just want to do that?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I have to say, when you have a restaurant like that, that's like a destination. That is all you need. And they just closed mine down in la.

[Jake Shane]

What was yours?

[Bowen Yang]

Genghis Cohen.

[Jake Shane]

That was your destination.

[Bowen Yang]

Your older brother and you disrespected me.

[Jake Shane]

That was your destination restaurant.

[Matt Rogers]

You're kind of like a food snob.

[Bowen Yang]

Own it.

[Jake Shane]

I am.

[Matt Rogers]

I love it.

[Jake Shane]

I am. I just like you need a James Beard award somewhat.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, that name though. As soon as you said he had a James Beard. They have a James Beard. The name James Beard is so powerful. Imagine if the award was called Daniel Smith.

[Bowen Yang]

Pauline Schmidt.

[Matt Rogers]

Pauline Schmidt.

[Jake Shane]

It would mean nothing but James Beard. I don't even know. I don't know about that award ceremony. I don't even know what its awarded is.

[Bowen Yang]

I think it's for dessert. Is it not?

[Matt Rogers]

I bet it's boring as fuck. Oh no, cut that out.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, it's ok.

[Jake Shane]

It's okay.

[Matt Rogers]

I bet it's actually really fun.

[Jake Shane]

Well, you know, I think the only reason I know a James Beard is legit is because everyone was like, this restaurant has been around forever. But when the chef won a James Beard award, that's when it was hard to get in. So I was like, oh, it must mean something, right?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, it definitely does. I've heard of it. And can we just, can we confirm, Is it, is it a dessert thing? Does anyone in the community know? No. It's not.

[Matt Rogers]

It's not that what it means.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you know what it is?

[Jake Shane]

Because they're not quite chef for chefs.

[Matt Rogers]

Chef.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, you do? Oh, for what restaurant?

[Bowen Yang]

Lula in Chicago. Are we Lula in Chicago? Do you know of that restaurant?

[Jake Shane]

Of course not. But I will go to. I'm going to Chicago for the marathon.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, you are?

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you? Will you be performing?

[Jake Shane]

No, I know next year.

[Matt Rogers]

Performing in the performing marathon.

[Jake Shane]

My best friend is performing.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

And I'm really excited to see her perform.

[Bowen Yang]

I think that the marathon is a performance. Do you know what I mean? Realized the other day the Iron man thing. Disgusting. Wait, was it on your show that you talked to Dylan Efron about the Iron Man? It is a full marathon, 100 mile bike and a how much long swim, like miles.

[Jake Shane]

And you know how people pee their pants during marathons? They themselves themselves on Iron Man.

[Bowen Yang]

Hey, you love Dylan Efron. You think he's sexy himself during the Iron man period.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm turned on even more.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, you fecal. Fecal woman.

[Matt Rogers]

Should we. We can really make. I think we can really push the boundary with this and be the first marathon. We can be on the marathon circuit just as Entertainment.

[Jake Shane]

Wait 110%.

[Bowen Yang]

Look out for me when I have Plastic Box by Jade on a loop. Just walking the marathon.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. Is that album good?

[Bowen Yang]

It is the album of the year.

[Jake Shane]

Are you serious? I haven't given it a listen yet. And I really liked angel of my Dreams.

[Matt Rogers]

J.

[Bowen Yang]

You're gonna love it.

[Matt Rogers]

Then press play.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, but what is good on the album?

[Matt Rogers]

The entire fucking girl.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think there's been a better run of songs like. Like oh, through self. Self saboteur.

[Matt Rogers]

Self sabotory. Lip service.

[Bowen Yang]

Lip service into headache into Glitch.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. And I'm going to like this.

[Bowen Yang]

And then break my heart. And no.

[Matt Rogers]

And then. And then Natural Disaster, which is about natural disaster, which is about Ms. Thing.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

About who?

[Bowen Yang]

About Jesse.

[Matt Rogers]

Natural disasters. About natural disasters. About Jesse. It's like Jesse Nelson, you're chaotic. You're. You're worse than the devil. She like. She really goes there on Jesse.

[Jake Shane]

Do they not get along?

[Bowen Yang]

Can I say struggles? We must say she has struggles in the. In defense of Jesse Nelson. Because I have to say I am a little mix. From the very beginning, I was one of the only gay guys in America regularly true on YouTube, watching UK X Factor. I've known them since they auditioned as solo artists and then were put in a group called Rhythmics. They had to change their name when they made the live rounds to Little Mix, because there was, like, a copyright issue, they became Little Mix. They won the hearts of the UK and little gay boys in America. Marco streaming on YouTube.

[Matt Rogers]

And then black Magic came out. And then that's when I got word they.

[Bowen Yang]

They won the UK X Factor. And it was. No girl group had won, and, like. Or no group had won, really. And then they became huge, and they never happened in America. And cut. Two years later, they become massive internationally. So no one really understood that they were like Destiny's Child everywhere else. Okay, so Jesse had, like, a lot of troubles because the media was always picking on her about her weight, like, really, really relentlessly. And she struggled a lot. And it's, like, not the first time I think we've seen, like, it happen where, like, you're in a group of people, and then what? They choose one person that stands out in a certain way, and then they just totally, like, tear them down, have a psychological sort of breakdown. She ended up leaving the group, and I think it was pretty sudden. They were, like, on album, like, four. They had just released that album, Confetti, I believe. And that was like, yeah, that's good album. Such a good album. And then she left, like, really abruptly. I think they were shooting the music video for Sweet Melody, which is one of my favorite.

[Jake Shane]

How's that go again?

[Bowen Yang]

In a whole other life There was this boy that I knew he made me feel like a woman they were young and silly fools Anyway, he started. It was like that.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it was like that. A little like that.

[Bowen Yang]

I sort of went really in it, you know?

[Jake Shane]

But, like, you are.

[Bowen Yang]

Sing me the melodies he played me Made me believe it was real love Sing melodies But the day he did me wrong the song go on and on he used to say, wait, it's such a bop kick.

[Jake Shane]

And you know what I took from that? I've never heard that song.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

You've heard confetti, but from the sky drop like confetti.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. I've heard, like, a good amount of Little Mix. I used to watch, like, they would. They're very good at performing live.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, they're amazing.

[Jake Shane]

Like, Perry is excellent live.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Excellent.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So is Jade, and so is. Who Am I. I'm forgetting Leanne. Leanne. And then there's Jesse.

[Bowen Yang]

Jesse.

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

So just listen to the Jade album. Oh, Jake, you're gonna love it. And text us.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, I will.

[Bowen Yang]

There has always been something about Jade.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, but it sort of was Camila Cabello vibes, where it was like, That's a group, but that's clearly, like the one real.

[Jake Shane]

Well, Camila Cabello is the one out of the harmony.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, she is. And I'm. I'm sorry.

[Jake Shane]

I'm sorry. CXOXO I liked it.

[Matt Rogers]

No, that will be remembered very well in history.

[Jake Shane]

First of all, when that came out, I said, why is no one else caring?

[Matt Rogers]

Right?

[Jake Shane]

It is so good, you guys.

[Bowen Yang]

Excuse me. What's that song that I kept singing? I'm having a bloom.

[Jake Shane]

Baby Pink. Like the lipstick.

[Bowen Yang]

I love Boat.

[Jake Shane]

Boat is amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, pull up the camilla. Pull up cxoxo it's actually roller coaster number 10. Pull up cxoxo no, there's a song that. There's a song that Matt was.

[Matt Rogers]

Was just non stop.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I couldn't.

[Jake Shane]

I remember you posting Boat. I mean, I like, remember.

[Matt Rogers]

I remember you posting all the time.

[Bowen Yang]

Matt got a little horny and posted Boat. It was. Let me see.

[Jake Shane]

Dade County Dreaming.

[Bowen Yang]

It was Dade County Dreaming. No, no, no.

[Matt Rogers]

Chanel number five.

[Bowen Yang]

Chanel number five. Come on, I'm telling you. And can I say we. We literally, like when I. And this is the problem. This. This is what happened with that album. The first single was called I Love it and sounded like a Charlie XCX song. And so I think everyone was like, she. She's ripping her off. And I think, like, that was the wrong first single because of course people were gonna say that.

[Jake Shane]

Take away from the fact that I love it, it's actually an excellent song. And the visuals behind it were so everything at the time when she did the little, like, Remember she did the little dance and then Playboi Cardi's feature was actually really good.

[Bowen Yang]

I love he knows. Oh, I think.

[Matt Rogers]

But I think the Drake feature also kind of fucked it.

[Jake Shane]

That didn't make sense to me.

[Matt Rogers]

It was a tough time for. For that to be coinciding.

[Jake Shane]

But the deluxe is even more better.

[Matt Rogers]

Magic City edition.

[Jake Shane]

Baby. What is it? It's Baby Pink.

[Matt Rogers]

Baby Pink. It's ugly.

[Bowen Yang]

Quietly standing Camila. I was. I was.

[Matt Rogers]

I. It was Baby Pink. Come show me Confront's kiss. Godspeed.

[Jake Shane]

Can friends Godspeed. Oh, have you heard Gods.

[Bowen Yang]

Of course I've heard.

[Jake Shane]

It has been great.

[Bowen Yang]

I wasn't quietly standing Camilla. I was publicly standing.

[Jake Shane]

Godspeed is like the greatest. I mean, like, you know what? Deluxe is good when you're like, that should have been on the album.

[Matt Rogers]

Sure, sure, totally.

[Jake Shane]

And like, that makes a good deluxe.

[Bowen Yang]

If you.

[Jake Shane]

You can't say that about a deluxe. The Deluxe is shit. And it shouldn't it shouldn't have been released, period.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, do you know it's not getting a deluxe? And we now know it's not because she said. And you know, the fact.

[Matt Rogers]

This is.

[Bowen Yang]

This is what's really not great today. This episode is going to come out after Life of a Showgirl.

[Jake Shane]

And so, like, how can we even respond to it?

[Bowen Yang]

This is a hardcore Swifties.

[Jake Shane]

I know. I mean, like, I used to, like, when I was bored, like. Should we write an essay?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

On Taylor?

[Jake Shane]

Just. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

The words will flow.

[Jake Shane]

They did. I'll send you. It's. I have wrote one on the Archer.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm in the Archer in the Prayer. I was on acid one time in Fire Island. I just looked at the ocean and listened to the Archer for six hours.

[Jake Shane]

Holy fuck.

[Matt Rogers]

Mm.

[Jake Shane]

That sounds amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

This is, like, years ago, so.

[Jake Shane]

But, like, if you guys want to call me in and you, like, need my thoughts on the album, like, I'm happy to give.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you write about the way she hits the tea on Combat in this essay?

[Jake Shane]

No, what I do write about is.

[Bowen Yang]

How in this essay, I will.

[Jake Shane]

What I do write is how, like, she. It's like, if I remember the essay correctly, it's like she's at this point in her career where it's like, she's like. At this point, she thought Lover was going to be her peak. Right. Like, if you watch Miss Americana, like, she says, like, lover is my last chance at, like, global superstar. Obviously, we know now she was wrong.

[Matt Rogers]

She was like, the culture is going to throw me away after I hit 30, whatever. But.

[Jake Shane]

So you have this, like, really vulnerable moment of reflection.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

And like, on the Archer, she's like, reflecting on her entire career and everything she's been through.

[Matt Rogers]

All My Enemies started out friends.

[Jake Shane]

No, I mean, I'm going to throw up. Like, I'm going to throw up. And I listen to that song and I thought about every friend of mine that became, like, an enemy. And, like, I was like. All the times that I thought I was the villain or I thought I was the hero. And, like. Because she says, like, I quite literally been the Archer and been the prey. Like, I've been the bad guy, I've been the good guy. I can't ever find someone to stay who could say. And then the song obviously ends with, you could say. It is seriously biblical. It's the best song she's ever released.

[Bowen Yang]

Is she speaking to the fans there or was she speaking to Joe? So. Oh, at the time.

[Jake Shane]

I can't right now.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, you actually have to. Did he just say he can't. No.

[Jake Shane]

Like she. Louise, she is speaking to. You can look at it multiple ways, and that's the beauty of every good Taylor Swift song. Mastermind is a great other example.

[Bowen Yang]

Mastermind.

[Jake Shane]

Mastermind. You're either talking about her lover at the time or she is speaking about the fans.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

She's like, I've got you, you're mine. And. And I think the beauty of it is it can always go both ways. And she knows it can go both ways.

[Bowen Yang]

So this is the part where. Because you said Mastermind, this is the natural part of any conversation where we pivot to Midnights. Now, underrated. Underrated is something that is apartment but also feels silly because it won album of the year. But it is apt because there are people out here. We have a close friend who would never publicly say this, and I will never do this to him, but he refers to Midnights as floppy. No and no. I could ruin someone's life right now.

[Jake Shane]

Let me tell you a few things about Midnights. Number one to one album of the year. Number two. It was the first. She was the first time any female artist or maybe any artist ever has taken the entire top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100 ever.

[Bowen Yang]

And she would do it again.

[Matt Rogers]

And she would do it. She will.

[Jake Shane]

She's planning on it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Listen, what do you make of these reports?

[Matt Rogers]

And again, this is coming out after the album, this episode.

[Bowen Yang]

Bombshell reports.

[Matt Rogers]

But these bombshell reports allege that it is wall to wall coverage. That is. That is the media strategy with. With Life of a Showgirl. It will rival, if not exceed the cultural saturation of Thriller by Michael Jackson.

[Jake Shane]

I wasn't alive for that. So that's why.

[Bowen Yang]

Neither were we. Neither, to be clear.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, well, I'm just saying, like, you know, like, it's like, you know, what for me is, like, what I think of when I think of life of the life of the showgirl. I think about very like, the Emancipation of Mimi.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, you know, like, so much.

[Jake Shane]

No, you're welcome.

[Matt Rogers]

You are our daughter.

[Jake Shane]

Like, well, yeah, I love. I love Mimi and I think about the Emancipation of Mimi. And that album was just everywhere. What is it? Shake It Off. We Belong Together. It's like that.

[Bowen Yang]

Let me say the high points of that album are, like, not even the singles circles, circles running around in circles over you.

[Jake Shane]

Do you think her new album's gonna be good?

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

Are you excited?

[Bowen Yang]

You know, actually, a friend reached out. Rich Jeswiak was reviewing it, I guess, for Pitchfork, and he said, have you heard it yet. And I was like, no, I haven't because this. It hasn't come out yet as we're recording this. He said it's giving more of like a. Like a silk sonic vibe, like sort of like. And then it's like a lot of it is like an R B groove. And apparently the gospel song is also disco because Mariah will always. At least one track on the album is about our great creator.

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, she.

[Jake Shane]

Do you know what song I randomly really love by her? Have you ever heard the Art of Letting Go?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, of course.

[Jake Shane]

I love that song. So underrated by her.

[Matt Rogers]

So underrated.

[Jake Shane]

I used to be like really into her and actually recently I've been listening to the hits.

[Matt Rogers]

The hits. But also. But Art of Letting Go. Oh no, that's not elusive Chanteurs, is.

[Bowen Yang]

It that is it.

[Matt Rogers]

That is underrated album overall.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

All the albums that came after Emancipation of Mimi are all underrated, I would say 100%.

[Matt Rogers]

But the best album title ever.

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, the song Obsessed is her number one song on Spotify. And people just like forget what a huge pop that is.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

Well, I remember seeing it every Single morning on VH1. Every morning?

[Bowen Yang]

Yep.

[Jake Shane]

Every morning they showed it.

[Matt Rogers]

Six friends, one dinner. And then the bill.

[Bowen Yang]

Suddenly it's giving SAT math section.

[Matt Rogers]

Someone forgot they ordered oysters for the table.

[Bowen Yang]

Someone else swears their cocktail was just sparkling water with vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

Now the check looks like rent in Manhattan.

[Bowen Yang]

But this is when you step into your hero arc.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Last minute flight.

[Matt Rogers]

Klarna card says yes, absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

So when the bill hits, you don't need a calculator. You need the Klarna card.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen screen to get info on battery life, status, time, messages, etc first.

[Matt Rogers]

Doesn't follow. Grab a [e-mail] okay, this is, this is a perfect segue into the question, I think, which is Jake Shane, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me.

[Jake Shane]

Well, so is it true? You know my answer already.

[Bowen Yang]

We do know.

[Jake Shane]

It is the Lady Gaga fame monster HBO special from either 2010 or 2011.

[Bowen Yang]

My sister has grown emotional.

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Here we go. All right, New York, are you all standing up?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. And you know, I don't know if.

[Matt Rogers]

You'Ve heard, but I've got a pretty big dick.

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

So come on, get your dicks out.

[Bowen Yang]

Because I know they've got a lot.

[Matt Rogers]

Of big cuck here in New York City. Welcome to the Monster Ball.

[Bowen Yang]

Now dance you motherfuckers. Love Game.

[Matt Rogers]

Love Game. Love. Marilyn Manson remix of Love Game.

[Jake Shane]

Uh huh.

[Bowen Yang]

That's moment did it for me. I was go, I'm going to the end with her.

[Jake Shane]

I just remember so desperately, desperately wanting to see the show. And my mom would not. I was 10, my mom would not let me see the show.

[Bowen Yang]

Probably because of all the big dick talk. The big dick.

[Jake Shane]

The big dick tok. I mean her performance during Teeth, like all of it was just like. My mom was like, you cannot go. And I was the. Gaga was like, really my first love.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So like, you know, like I remember calling up like asking them to play just dance on the radio because I didn't have an ipod.

[Bowen Yang]

You called them up on the radio?

[Jake Shane]

Yes, I didn't have an iPod. Yeah. Z100. And I would say, please play, just dance. Cause I would. That's the only way.

[Matt Rogers]

Please play, just dance.

[Jake Shane]

That's the only way I would be able to hear this fucking song. I remember the first time I ever saw a poker face. I remember the first time I saw a bad romance. And I remember being like, she is going on tour. I need to see this motherfucking tour. And my mom was like, you, you can't see it. And then I went to my best friend at the time's basement and I said, this HBO special is coming out. We have to, to, we have to see it. I remember watching it being like, it's clicking.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

I see why my mom wouldn't let me. I would be uncomfortable seeing this with my mom.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, well, not with mom, but.

[Matt Rogers]

Not with Mom. But thank God for the fudgeing special. Thank God for hbo.

[Jake Shane]

She goes down to it. Do you remember? She, like, walks to a bodega in her heels and she, like, orders, and she's like, she. And she's, like, reminiscing, and then she's in her dressing room and she starts crying.

[Matt Rogers]

We're at the Garden.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. She's like, everyone that told me no, like, I'm just thinking about. I'm like, I know. I mean, this is it.

[Bowen Yang]

Lady Gaga.

[Matt Rogers]

Lady fucking Gaga.

[Jake Shane]

I saw her for the first time at the Mayhem. Mayhem.

[Matt Rogers]

What did you think? What I said?

[Jake Shane]

This is. I was with Louise, and we just kept looking at each other saying, it's art. Like, this is like. I full body chills thinking about it. It was truly one of the best nights of my life. Like, that she is an artist. Like, Louise is crying. I was. First of all, I was very scared because the crowd is a lot of gay men. I was scared that the crowd was either not going to be very kind.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Jake Shane]

Little monsters are so.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, no.

[Matt Rogers]

You have no idea.

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, it's the best night of anyone's life. When we went to go see her at Coachella. So Bowen is friendly with her, obviously, from doing SNL and everything. So we got to see her afterwards. And all. All I could think to say to her was, like, you just gave everyone the best night of their life. Like, that's like. Because I can see also and have a sense that she's incredibly, incredibly hard on herself and sets a really high bar. It's mind blowing that someone can keep tossing yourself forward. And I was just like, it was the best night of everyone's life. Part of me, like, a human in me wants to be like, you could take a break. You know what I mean? You did it. You have every single time out been the artist of our time.

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

Number one.

[Jake Shane]

But you know what I think? And I think this is so. And this is my favorite. Cause I feel like the life of a pop girl, it's always somewhat. Always kind of follows, like, a similar trajectory. And it's always their best album is always when they think culture's given up on them, and then they, like, go back to their. Like, who they are because they. They don't think anyone's listening.

[Matt Rogers]

And you think it's mayhem.

[Jake Shane]

I think it's Mayhem. And I think that was Taylor Swift's Folklore. I think that was Mariah's Emancipation of Mimi. I think, like, you know that their comeback album is always when they are like, well, culture's had it with me. I'm just gonna make this for me and my fans. And it ends up being. And then culture's like, wait, we want you back.

[Bowen Yang]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

But Gaga to me has these undeniable benchmarks, including the Monster Ball, right? And the HBO thing, which again, I couldn't afford tickets. I was like 17 in the city, couldn't fucking afford anything. Any experience. And, like, think I like, went on LimeWire or whatever, downloaded it, watched it. But then the other benchmarks to me, I will always cherish this time in my life. Starsborne.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my God, it's in my top three favorite Gaga.

[Jake Shane]

Do you remember? Well, that whole era kind of started. Remember, like, she was like, her comeback was considered that performance she gave at the Grammys and she was on the piano, but it wasn't the Star is Born. It was like she was doing a tribute to someone and that was teeing up a star.

[Bowen Yang]

It was Oscars.

[Matt Rogers]

Sound of Music.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, because. Because that was post.

[Matt Rogers]

Art pop.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

So then she does that. Then she does Till it Happened. No, then she does Joanne. Then it's Till it happens to you, Diane Warren. Then it's as she's record. After Joanne, she's recording Star is born. Then the Cure. The Cure. Then. Then Ali Main. And Ali.

[Bowen Yang]

Just.

[Matt Rogers]

Just. What a. It was just pop culture was just fun in that time.

[Jake Shane]

That was Ari. Thank U Next. The star is for.

[Bowen Yang]

By the way, last night at the. At the special taping, during the stop down, they were playing. They started playing Thank U Next. And the whole crowd just like starts vibing. And Ari from the back just like peeked her head out and was like, what are you guys doing? And it was just. We were like, low key. That's Ariana fucking Grande.

[Jake Shane]

Right? Low key.

[Bowen Yang]

Can we just talk about that?

[Jake Shane]

I mean, I. I'm happy to. Like, where do you want to start?

[Bowen Yang]

Like, well, Eternal Sunshine was your album of the year.

[Jake Shane]

Eternal Sunshine was my album of the year.

[Matt Rogers]

I.

[Jake Shane]

That album meant so much to me. I felt if I listen to an album like there, if I'm listening to it after a night out, it's always going to be my album. Like that. If it comes out and I go home and I listen to it, I will never forget where I was when I heard we can't be friends for the first time. I don't care that it's the Most popular song on the album for a reason.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Also the deluxe prime example of why wasn't this on the album?

[Matt Rogers]

Which.

[Jake Shane]

Which was Twilight Zone.

[Bowen Yang]

Twilight Zone. I love Warm, too. I actually thought it was called Worm at first. Yeah. I thought it was called Worm. When I looked at it, I was like, she has a song called Worm. Really? What happened was I thought the O was an right. Or the A was an O, rather. See, Still, I'm all turned around. No, but the thing I love, too, about the track listing on it is that we can't be friends goes into I wish I hated you, which is, I think, like, outside, if we can't be friends is my favorite.

[Jake Shane]

Tell me more.

[Bowen Yang]

I think I just identified with it.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. And I think that people have that with that song. It's like.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know. It's an intangible thing that she is. She somehow captured this feeling of like. Oh, like this thing that you. We feel like maybe too afraid to say, which was, I wish I hated you, but I. I don't. I love you still. Like, I should hate you. And that is a very tense feeling. We can't be friends. Perfect example of the Taylor thing. It can be seen in multiple ways.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

I think it is. I think it is toward the fans. That's my perspective on it.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, you think? That is such an interesting take because the papers and the pens.

[Matt Rogers]

I know that you made me. But I'm still like, I don't like.

[Bowen Yang]

How you paint me don't like how.

[Matt Rogers]

You pay me But I'm still here hanging.

[Jake Shane]

Wait. Like, sorry, I cannot wait to listen to the song. Like, I'm free for. Like that. That song, like, I text it once a week to my best friend Julia, and I say, I'm still at the restaurant. They've asked me to get up. I won't leave.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

What's the restaurant?

[Jake Shane]

It's like. You've never heard this phrase?

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, Yeah, I have, but I want.

[Bowen Yang]

You to explain it because everyone wants to go home. The waiters want to go. So I was a waiter, so this hurts. No phrases.

[Jake Shane]

Do you know where this phrase comes from?

[Matt Rogers]

No, tell us.

[Bowen Yang]

I've heard.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know where it comes. That's why I need you to explain.

[Jake Shane]

It is from a Taylor Swift song called right where you left me.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Jake Shane]

And she talks about. She's like, I'm still at the restaurant. Like, I. Like, I'm this woman that's been scorned, and I won't get up. I was Broken up with at this restaurant. I won't leave.

[Matt Rogers]

And I send good etiquette.

[Jake Shane]

Well, it's not. But I don't have good etiquette when it comes to this song. I won't leave. And by the way, step away. When I hear this live. Step away.

[Bowen Yang]

Get away from me.

[Jake Shane]

What's your radius? What do you need? I need 10ft in every direction. Like, I. Oh, my God. When I hear this song live, like, don't play with me. Eternal Sunshine was her so far magnum opus. You can say that it is. Thank you, Next. I think it is Eternal Sunshine.

[Matt Rogers]

I agree.

[Jake Shane]

I. I think she has never been so. Okay, well, I think Thank u Next was also very on the nose with what she was dealing with at the time. But Eternal sunshine was just like, oh, there you are.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, well, I think, oh, how I've missed you.

[Jake Shane]

Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I remember front to back in the car with Louise every single day, listening to that album. Not a single skip on there.

[Bowen Yang]

It felt like the most holistically her. You know what I mean? And I think. Yeah, I actually. I think there's really something to the fact that that was created post Wicked because I think Wicked reconnected her to who she really is. Not to say that, like, every era of Ari isn't great. Like, I stand positions, like, I think front to back. Like, just in terms of having an experience.

[Jake Shane]

Just like magic.

[Bowen Yang]

I love nasty. I love 34, 35. And I feel like people kind of and love Sabrina. Obsessed with Sabrina. But it feels like the narrative around her is like, she's like the comedic pop star. Like, the funny pop star. Ari had jokes, bars, and more.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, she still does. She like, Ari, Ari.

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe I'm gonna need a seatbelt. When I ride it, I'll leave it open like a door, come inside it.

[Jake Shane]

It's because, like, you know, she's just. Oh, God, I love her.

[Matt Rogers]

Go. Go off. I want to hear her.

[Bowen Yang]

I just.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I. Like, I've been listening to Ari for. Since that first album. Like, I remember listening to the way yours truly in the car every single day to school. I remember listening to my everything that entire summer she released it and be like, how was. How is this album not bigger? And then like, you know, sweetener and dangerous woman and thank you. Like, she just like, Grateful is the word.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, grateful.

[Jake Shane]

Grateful is the word is the word. And like, she. She really. I'm just very grateful to pop girls that, like, lay bare their feelings and what they go through and open themselves up to Criticism beyond the music. And I think she's done that, but.

[Matt Rogers]

She just has this, like, command, obviously, of, like, technique which, like, I take for granted. I think gay men take that for granted in their. In their pop stars. Because I. Whatever. I had to, like, sing a number in the special last night, and I would, like, took vocal code, vocal lessons from our wonderful coach Doug Peck, who works with the girls. And he goes to me, he was like, when you go to rehearsal these next couple days and you're watching Ari and Cynthia do their thing, watch where they take their breaths, watch the shapes they make with their mouths, it's like. And I. It's. Something broke in me where I'm like, oh, my God. Like, these are virtuosic performers. And with Ari specifically on the. On the funny pop star thing, it's like, I just. I can objectively say she's, like, the funniest person on the planet. It's like she. She comes to snl, she does her own pre tape Celine Dion promoting the ufc. Hosts. They don't give hosts that solo. That's just her in that sketch carrying it, saying pages of dialogue, doing a Celine Dion impression, and then doing the vocal impression, singing, like, Celine.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like, this is crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, are we. Are we. Are we all seeing this?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, She's. She's. She actually is very similar to Gaga.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

I feel like there's many different form she takes. The Wicked moment kind of like feels like the stars moment, even all the way up to the Academy Awards. You know what I mean? Like, it's. And they are so close, right? Like, yeah, absolutely. Well, they obviously ran on me, which is.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

That was so. Thank God. I wonder what that song would have felt like without the pandemic.

[Jake Shane]

Not as special. You know what? Actually. But it's hard to say, like, without the pandemic, because, like, I don't even know what life would have looked like without the pandemic. I still haven't processed the pandemic.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

You know what I mean? I'm like, let's do that right now. You know what I mean? But, like, the only way I can process it is be like, okay, well, I have to be like, I thank God it happened. Not in, like, a. Not like. You know what I mean?

[Bowen Yang]

We know what you mean.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I have to be like, well, I wouldn't be here if I didn't go through that, because, like, everyone to some extent went through it during the pandemic.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It wasn't easy for anyone. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Like, and so I Feel like you. Like we haven't processed all that life we missed, but I think we're gonna make up for it.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't know if I can listen to Chromatica and not. Cause it's so crazy because it's so clearly designed. Like, even the song Rain on Me. Like, feeling something in nature on your skin. You know what I mean? Like, the stupid love music video being out in the open desert, you know what I mean? It just still to me feels like I'm still in Jared's kitchen, you know what I mean? Like, and just the two of us dancing to it with the dog. And there is something special and unique about that being such a Pandemic album because did make us dance like it it. And we really needed to at that point, you know? And like, that's something that I hope she feels and knows. Like, I feel like that album occupies like a. A little bit of a weird space, I think.

[Matt Rogers]

I think there's like a slider happening in Gaga's, like, internal perception of her work right now. I don't. I obviously cannot speak to her, like, mentality around this, but it's like art pop was like the thing. Like, oh, I don't want to ever think about this again. And now it seems like she's embraced it because she understands that, like, we all love that album in a very specific way. And like, anytime, like, every time applause comes on on the tour, like, the room goes crazy.

[Jake Shane]

Notice that? Yeah, crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It'S like, it's. It's. It's a fudgeing, like, banger. It's a banger. It's like a fudgeing, like, sleeper activation, but then fudgeing. I think now it's landed on that. That's landed on Chromatica. And I think over time she will come, hopefully, whatever. We're not.

[Bowen Yang]

Come home to Chromatica.

[Matt Rogers]

Come home to Chromatica. You know what I mean?

[Jake Shane]

I never really appreciated Chromatic at the time. I am embarrassed to say I've admitted this to Matt. I was very in. Like, he's come.

[Bowen Yang]

He's come clean.

[Jake Shane]

I was very. During the pandemic, I was listening to a lot of, like, somber music. So I was very. Folklore.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Punisher Phoebe Bridgers. Like, I was very in that. That was how I took my pandemic. I was like, I'm gonna think.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

So for us, I think it was like Chromatica and future nostalgia.

[Jake Shane]

100%. I had a moment with Future Nostalgia when I really had my dance moment was when Brat came Out. And let me tell you something. That album changed my life.

[Bowen Yang]

I think it's one of the best of all time.

[Jake Shane]

Of all time.

[Matt Rogers]

Of all time. Of all times. Yeah. It's our rumors. It's our Fleetwood Mac.

[Jake Shane]

You know, like, you.

[Bowen Yang]

You. Some bars, tea and more. Bars, tea and more.

[Matt Rogers]

These are. These are, like, interesting. Whatever.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, tell me what you think. I think sour is what Jagged Little Pill was.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. When I was in.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

100%. Well, see, that's. So that's a really apt comparison. I do think they occupy a really similar space. You know what's bizarre, I saw them a week apart at the Kia Forum. I saw Alanis and I saw Olivia Rodrigo, like, literally seven days apart in the same space. And there was. Yeah, it was like. It was like an older version of the same, but I don't know. Obviously, Alanis, Olivia's fans are very young and very activated, so they filled that space. And Alanis is so legacy now, and everyone knows who she is. So it was more general because it was people being like, oh, of course. Let's go see Alanis Morissette. It wasn't Olivia fans, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, which is not. Not all of them, but I will say there is a lot of sobbing.

[Jake Shane]

Well, have you ever been. Have you guys been to an Olivia Rodrigo concert?

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

Bar for bar. There is not a lyric missed in that crowd.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, no, no, no, no. They're off book.

[Jake Shane]

They're off book.

[Bowen Yang]

Same. Same is true for Gracie Abrams.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. Oh, yes.

[Bowen Yang]

There were girls at the Gracie Abrams show forming large circles, holding hands and. And. And. And, like, literally spinning in a circle, like, ring around the Rosie style, singing, like, let it happen.

[Jake Shane]

Have you seen. Have you seen them do the mosh pit?

[Bowen Yang]

The Gracie Abrams mosh?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. It's electric. They do a great mosh pit. I forget to what song it is. Spectacular.

[Bowen Yang]

Holy. Yeah, I. I missed the mosh pit. I didn't miss the holding hands in, and I. There was that one. There was one song where everyone was just crying hard.

[Jake Shane]

What was it? Do you remember?

[Bowen Yang]

I don't remember which one it was, but it was. It was such a catharsis, and I was like, I'm so happy that these girls are having.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Jake Shane]

Was it that so true?

[Bowen Yang]

No, that's so true. Was for everyone.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, there was one song. I'm losing which one it is. I'm having, like, a weird brain day. But there was one song where it was like, the girls. This was their three and a half minutes to really let it out. And I'm like, sorry, it wasn't. I love you. I'm sorry because I miss you.

[Jake Shane]

I'm sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

It wasn't I miss you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry it wasn't. Okay, it wasn't. I'm sorry. My single has to be a third one, right?

[Matt Rogers]

What was the first one?

[Bowen Yang]

Well, there's, there's I miss you. I'm sorry, I love you. No, no, no. But then the first saying there has to be a third one, right? Gracie. You got to do that.

[Jake Shane]

That. I mean, she will. She must.

[Matt Rogers]

Six friends, one dinner. And then the bill.

[Bowen Yang]

Suddenly it's giving SAT math section.

[Matt Rogers]

Someone forgot they ordered oysters for the table.

[Bowen Yang]

Someone else swears their cocktail was just sparkling water with vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

Now the check looks like rent in Manhattan.

[Bowen Yang]

But this is when you step into your hero arc.

[Matt Rogers]

You pull out the Klarna card.

[Bowen Yang]

One swipe and the chaos disappears. No panic, no awkward payment request to friends.

[Matt Rogers]

Just you, completely in control.

[Bowen Yang]

Because the Klarna card isn't just another card.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the ultimate power move.

[Bowen Yang]

Sushi with friends pay now that outfit that makes you feel like a superstar pay over time.

[Matt Rogers]

Last minute flight Klarna card says yes, absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

So when the bill hits, you don't need a calculator. You need the Klarna card.

[Matt Rogers]

Learn more about the klarna [e-mail] debit flex card pay later plans issued by web bank Deposits in your balance account are held at WebBank, member FDIC anywhere visa is accepted. Certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only included with a paid klarna membership plan. JBL Tour Pro 3 earbuds are for those who are the first to try something unique.

[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Matt Rogers]

I love being able to touch my buds and control the volume. Feels amazing on the skin.

[Bowen Yang]

With a built in wireless transmitter that lets you plug and play with any device you want. The JBL Tour 3 connects you to all your favorite music, movies and games.

[Matt Rogers]

The wireless transmitter also allows for JBL's superior spatial sound that takes any audio and turns it into a 360 immersive experience.

[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages right from the case.

[Matt Rogers]

Use the bigger, clear 1.57-inch touchscreen to see what song is playing or who's calling you. Or personalize the tactile screen with your favorite photo.

[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen screen to get info on battery life, status, time, messages, etc first.

[Matt Rogers]

Doesn't follow. Grab a [e-mail] on eBay every find has a story. Like if you're looking for a vintage band tea.

[Bowen Yang]

Not just a T. The band tea from the last show your favorite band ever played.

[Matt Rogers]

He wore it everywhere. Then your boyfriend started wearing it, which.

[Bowen Yang]

Was cute until he dumped you and took it with him, which was not so cute. But he was. I miss him.

[Matt Rogers]

Anyway, now you're on ebay and there it is. Same tea from the same tour, still living in your memory rent free forever.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, screw you, Dave.

[Matt Rogers]

The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you.

[Bowen Yang]

Except Dave.

[Matt Rogers]

But ebay isn't just forgetting whatever your X x BFF stole back.

[Bowen Yang]

We miss you. It's also for that rare championship foul ball that you caught, then heroically gave to the kid next to you. You're welcome. Scoot.

[Matt Rogers]

And where else are you gonna find your first car? A RAV4 from 2003, the one you.

[Bowen Yang]

Wish you never sold but now. Finally got the ch back home?

[Matt Rogers]

I'm buying a car on ebay for good this time.

[Bowen Yang]

Shop ebay for millions of finds, each with a story. Ebay. Things people love.

[Matt Rogers]

That's a good tagline. No one can resist a rule of culture. So here's one for the dating files. Rule of culture number 72 chemistry isn't.

[Bowen Yang]

Just vibes, it's values. Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble. And it makes sense. It's not just about matching with someone. It's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe with shared interests and prompts. You don't just see a profile, you get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.

[Bowen Yang]

Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real. With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.

[Matt Rogers]

So whether your rule of culture is the Best first date. Start with the shared hot take on Renaissance. Or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega. Order. Download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.

[Bowen Yang]

Download Bumble and start your love story.

[Matt Rogers]

Worst behaved audience based on the girl. Can we. Can we say this?

[Jake Shane]

Okay. Who do you think?

[Matt Rogers]

I have an answer.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, let me just. Give me a second.

[Bowen Yang]

Worst behavior.

[Matt Rogers]

I have an answer. And it's not fair. It's not a reflection on the person. It's the parents of the children who are fucked up.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm gonna make this an age thing.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

What were they doing?

[Matt Rogers]

There was a girl at East Rutherford.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, you're at the New York show.

[Bowen Yang]

I was.

[Jake Shane]

You're at the New York show. Because every time I went to the ERAS tour, it was like, hi, Happy. And it was like, hi. I'm so awkward.

[Matt Rogers]

No, like, you know, overall, amazing vibe. I just get the sense. I. Anecdotally, I've gotten. I've gotten different stories of like, this is a kid's. This is the best day of this girl's life.

[Jake Shane]

Right. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

And the parent is so protective of that that it affects, like, a gay guy.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what I mean?

[Jake Shane]

Did something happen where you were like.

[Matt Rogers]

This girl kept, like, getting into my space, like, as demarketed by the chair.

[Bowen Yang]

Mm.

[Matt Rogers]

Kept, like, arm in my fucking. It's a lot of fun. You know what? ERAS tour, we love it.

[Bowen Yang]

But I went six times. Not a bad seat in the house. I always had a great time.

[Matt Rogers]

It is. I do think it's the kind of show, and I think this is just stadium shows, maybe, so it's like a venue size issue, but it's like, you do get a lot of phone arm, and those swing into your eye line. And then I just told this girl, I was like, you're at a concert. I was like, you're at a concert.

[Jake Shane]

Good for you.

[Matt Rogers]

But then the mom got in my face and was like, you're getting in her space. And like, no, I'm not. I'm just watching this. This artist that I love perform. So I'm. You know, this is maybe not fair for me to, like, zero in on this one example, but I'm gonna say that's my answer.

[Bowen Yang]

It's you. I. I will say this is not global. I remember this, and I remember being like, this is something, because he. He does he. You get into it with people when they're. When they have bad attitudes. Well, like that.

[Matt Rogers]

Like Ms. Thing at Titanique in London on Microsoft Excel on her Phone during the show.

[Bowen Yang]

Two glasses of wine in her hands. Two double fisting glasses of wine on a spreadsheet in front of her. The, the fucking screen is full blast brightness and she's like full conversation with the row of people. That's true.

[Matt Rogers]

Four different things happening.

[Bowen Yang]

Bowen reaches over, I mean, you were at live theater.

[Jake Shane]

And she goes, it's like that moment in Dance Moms where they say to Abby Lee, like, I thought you preached theater or dance etiquette, you know? And she, she gets out of there.

[Bowen Yang]

But it's, it's also funny because, like, Bowen does this and these people like, deeply know who he is.

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

I don't care. No, I know you don't care.

[Jake Shane]

For you.

[Bowen Yang]

I know you don't care.

[Jake Shane]

I respect that so much.

[Bowen Yang]

I just, I don't like, I don't like that they have bad behavior. They have very bad behavior. And then you call them out on it and then it becomes Bowen Yang snapped at me.

[Matt Rogers]

Sure, whatever. To tell it to the mountain, right? Tell it on the mountain.

[Jake Shane]

I think though, there is like, oh.

[Bowen Yang]

Tell it on the mountain.

[Matt Rogers]

What were you saying, Jake?

[Jake Shane]

I think that there is a phone problem at concerts. I really actively, when I am at concerts, I try not to go on my phone. I really. And every greatest moment of my life at a concert, I remember being, I wasn't on my phone, I. E. The Archer Taylor Swift, I. E. After Hours at the Weekend. I. E. Like motion sickness at the Phoebe Bridgers Coachella show. Like, I'm just like, oh, I'm not on my phone. I'm like, ugh. Like I'm feeling the air. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel my environment to this music that I'm seeing right now.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you had Billie Eilish on your show?

[Jake Shane]

No, I would love to have you guys had her?

[Bowen Yang]

No, we've not had her yet.

[Matt Rogers]

But she's, she's the best.

[Bowen Yang]

She's number one.

[Jake Shane]

She's amazing. Her shows are amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

I think she's one of the few people we haven't had on that. I, I, that would make me nervous. I don't know why. Because she's probably a cool vibe.

[Matt Rogers]

She's a cool vibe, but she's such a genius. She's disarming. I think she's very like, hey, I don't know.

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

That's my Billie Eilish impression.

[Bowen Yang]

This is my.

[Jake Shane]

That'S actually quite good. But on the the flip side, the best audience I have ever, ever been a part of. Carly Rae.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, of course. Because everyone's Canadian.

[Matt Rogers]

Canadian.

[Bowen Yang]

Everyone's spiritually Canadian when they see Carly Rae Jepsen concert. That's actually low culture. Number 30. Everyone's spiritually Canadian when they see a Carly Rae Jepsen concert.

[Jake Shane]

And I agree, because I saw her 10 years of emotion. She did that sucky. Oh my God, I have full body chills. She did the album front to back. And everyone was just like, how happy are you to be here? Remind me to show you the video I have of that starting. No one knew that was coming. She gets out on stage, all we hear is the trumpets. And it's, it's game over. It's game over. We're like, oh, shit. She's doing it front to back.

[Matt Rogers]

Because guess what? That's a moment where I go, you're at a concert, right? Have fun. Enjoy it.

[Jake Shane]

Back in the day, before phones. Like, imagine how awesome it was. Everyone just let loose. Like there is this, like, I do wonder. Like there is this, this thing where it's like, oh, I kind of feel embarrassed to dance sometimes. I wish I didn't feel that way.

[Bowen Yang]

But you're always dancing.

[Matt Rogers]

No, dude.

[Jake Shane]

But not as, not, not like I could. What I could, I could really like. I, I. Very dramatic.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, this guy goes to the gym with Tate. We don't know what she's teaching.

[Matt Rogers]

We don't know what she's teaching him.

[Bowen Yang]

We don't know the combos that he knows.

[Jake Shane]

Right, Jake?

[Matt Rogers]

I think you have a 10 foot radius rule at every concert. Back. Back away. What'd you say? Get.

[Jake Shane]

Get back. Step away from the eternal sunshine tour. Get the fuck away.

[Matt Rogers]

Get the fuck away. Six friends, one dinner. And then the bill, suddenly it's giving SAT math section. Someone forgot they ordered oysters for the table.

[Bowen Yang]

Someone else swears their cocktail was just sparkling water with vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

Now the check looks like rent in Manhattan.

[Bowen Yang]

But this is when you step into your hero arc.

[Matt Rogers]

You pull out the Klarna card.

[Bowen Yang]

One swipe and the chaos disappears. No panic, no awkward payment request to friends.

[Matt Rogers]

Just you, completely in control.

[Bowen Yang]

Because the Klarna card isn't just another card.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the ultimate power move.

[Bowen Yang]

Sushi with friends.

[Matt Rogers]

Pay now.

[Bowen Yang]

That outfit that makes you feel like a superstar.

[Matt Rogers]

Pay over time.

[Bowen Yang]

Last minute flight.

[Matt Rogers]

Klarna card says yes, absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

So when the bill hits, you don't need a calculator. You need the Klarna card.

[Matt Rogers]

Learn more about the klarna [e-mail] debit, flex card, pay later. Plans issued by Webbank deposits in your balance account are held at WebBank member FDIC anywhere visa is accepted, certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only included with a paid KLARNA membership plan. JBL Tour Pro 3 earbuds are for those who are the first to try something unique.

[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Matt Rogers]

I love being able to touch my buds and control the volume. It feels amazing on the skin.

[Bowen Yang]

With a built in wireless transmitter that lets you plug and play with any device you want, the JBL Tour 3 connects you to all your favorite music, movies and games.

[Matt Rogers]

The wireless transmitter also allows for JBL superior spatial sound that takes any audio and turns it into a 360 immersive experience.

[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages right from the case.

[Matt Rogers]

Use the bigger, clear 1.57-inch touchscreen to see what song is playing or who's calling you or personalize the tactile screen with your favorite photo.

[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen to get info on battery life, status, time, messages, et cetera.

[Matt Rogers]

First doesn't follow. Grab a [e-mail] on eBay.

[Bowen Yang]

Every find has a story.

[Matt Rogers]

Like if you're looking for a vintage.

[Bowen Yang]

Band tee, not just a the band T from the last show your favorite band ever played.

[Matt Rogers]

He wore it everywhere. Then your boyfriend started wearing it, which.

[Bowen Yang]

Was cute until he dumped you and took it with him, which was not so cute. But he was. I miss him. Anyway, now you're on ebay.

[Matt Rogers]

And there it is. Same tea from the same tour, still living in your memory. Rent free forever.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, screw you Dave.

[Matt Rogers]

The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you.

[Bowen Yang]

Except Dave.

[Matt Rogers]

But ebay isn't just for getting whatever your ex ex BFF stole back.

[Bowen Yang]

We miss you. It's also for that rare championship foul ball that you caught, then heroically gave to the kid next to you. You're welcome, Scoot.

[Matt Rogers]

And where else are you Gonna find your first car? A RAV4 from 2003?

[Bowen Yang]

The one you wish you never sold but now finally got the chance to take back home.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm buying a car on ebay for good this time.

[Bowen Yang]

Shop ebay for millions of finds, each with a story. EBay, things people love.

[Matt Rogers]

That's a good tagline. No one can resist a rule of culture. So here's one for the dating files. Rule of culture number 72.

[Bowen Yang]

Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values. Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch?

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble, and it makes sense. It's not just about matching with someone. It's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe with shared interests and prompts. You don't just see a profile. You get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.

[Bowen Yang]

Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real. With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.

[Matt Rogers]

So whether your rule of culture is the best first dates start with the shared hot take on renaissance or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order. Download Bumble and turn the those connections into something bigger.

[Bowen Yang]

Download Bumble and start your love story.

[Matt Rogers]

What was Austin like? Tell us.

[Jake Shane]

Austin's great. The food's great. The camaraderie is great. Everyone, like, when we were at the UT game, everyone was like, like, I went to usc, right? And I thought, like, everyone at those games was, like, so in it. But, like, no, like, Austin, like, the team is really good, so everyone's like, really in it. Like, people say to the end of.

[Matt Rogers]

That game, you and Kaya were screaming hook em horns.

[Jake Shane]

By the way, we were her screaming.

[Bowen Yang]

I love that girl.

[Jake Shane]

She. I mean, she is the greatest of all time.

[Bowen Yang]

She's so cool.

[Matt Rogers]

So cool.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So talented.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So smart.

[Bowen Yang]

She really works her ass off.

[Jake Shane]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, I feel like she. I just recently went in to do some, like, ADR for Palmer Royale, and where there was a scene we're in together and the performance that she was giving, I was like, this girl is committed to it.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake Shane]

She studies her craft.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

And she. She. She is very, very, very, very smart. She does library science. Like, she.

[Matt Rogers]

When pretty people read, I'm like, damn it.

[Jake Shane]

I talk about pretty. I mean, rock dead gorgeous.

[Matt Rogers]

Not even. What am I. What am I saying?

[Jake Shane]

Like, but yes, we had the best time. She's like, we had like. She was just, like, so along for the ride. Like, Just, like, we had so much fun. We, like, we. We drank nonstop and, like, it was great. It was great.

[Bowen Yang]

Did I bring you my taco suggestion?

[Jake Shane]

No, you didn't. And I wish you had torches is what. Well, I'm gone now, but I am going to Dallas tonight.

[Matt Rogers]

So what's Mr. Powell like? I've always been curious.

[Jake Shane]

Talk about a hard worker.

[Matt Rogers]

He seems like a fun guy.

[Jake Shane]

He's number one. Very fun. Number two, a great friend. And I know that because he is surrounded by, number one, his family, and number two, people that he's known for 20 plus years.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. You can always tell.

[Jake Shane]

And, like, they are all they do all the time is just. Just reminisce and talk about these funny stories. And what I gather from all these stories is that he's never changed.

[Matt Rogers]

That's hard to do.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. And I. I think. And his friends really ride for him, and he really rides for his friends. His friends were all there this weekend. And he's just a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a very talented.

[Bowen Yang]

And I think that because he's so. He's sort of a McConaughey vibe.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Where it's like, because he's so, like, handsome and charismatic and action y and like, sort of presents as, like, I'm the comedy action guy that people aren't getting how good he is.

[Jake Shane]

Well, they will. I'm pretty sure his slate for the upcoming year is, like, gonna gag people.

[Bowen Yang]

Trying to do that.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. And by the way, the new show, Chad Powers. Laugh out loud.

[Bowen Yang]

Really?

[Jake Shane]

Laugh out loud. Did you watch?

[Matt Rogers]

I have not watched. I just.

[Jake Shane]

Very funny. He is very good. Number one, he's a very talented actor. Number two, he's very good. Good at being. Being like, the celebrity actor. Like, he's very good at all of it. He's good. And he's also a good guy.

[Matt Rogers]

And, like, can we just end the whole like, there are no stars anymore conversation? Like. Like.

[Jake Shane]

There are.

[Matt Rogers]

There are.

[Jake Shane]

There are.

[Bowen Yang]

I feel like there are lots of stars.

[Jake Shane]

There are lots. I just think we're in this, like, weird moment where it's like, chop digital and traditional. It's like finally maybe merging in this, like, very weird way. And, like, we're not used to it.

[Bowen Yang]

There's no rules anymore.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, there's no. That's it.

[Bowen Yang]

There's no rules anymore. Because ultimately, here's when the rules were broken. When Kim Kardashian became, like, went from Kim K. To now being Vogue cover star.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, that was. I think she is emblematic of the change in our culture more than anyone else.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Is what happened from her start to now. Because another thing is she is fully the star of a full blown Ryan Murphy show with. And she's number one on that call sheet. And who's below her? Glenn Close? Sarah Paulson.

[Matt Rogers]

What?

[Bowen Yang]

You didn't know about this?

[Jake Shane]

She's below her on the call sheet.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Because she's the star of the show.

[Matt Rogers]

Top billing.

[Bowen Yang]

She's number one. She's the most. She's the lead of it. So, yeah, all's fair is coming out on Hulu. Sarah Paulson's gonna come on the show.

[Matt Rogers]

Love her.

[Bowen Yang]

We've not met her, but she's the most talented.

[Jake Shane]

But like, love her.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. That she's sort of like a limitless talent. But this is what I'm saying is it's like Kim K. Is the lead of that show.

[Jake Shane]

That's crazy. Yeah. She is very emblematic of that shift in culture. And I think about that all the time. Cause I remember obviously watching her and everyone was like, well, she'll never do high fashion, she'll never do this. And then suddenly she was on the COVID of Vogue and everything changed.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I mean, I don't think at this point, I don't like whether you agree or disagree. Like, she is a prestige presence at things.

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

No doubt.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, yeah. That's like objective. Like it's. Everyone knows her.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. And I also think that that is the currency now because I even hear it from like my agents and stuff. They're like, yeah, it used to be kind of a rumor that, you know, like, your presence on social or like your presence in the world, like your name recognition didn't matter as much as, as, you know, just going into the audition and nailing it. But that's all a lie. It does matter. Like there it's. It's bottom line driven. And I think we know that now. So this idea that, like, I'm just gonna keep my head down and work and, you know, maybe go to Juilliard or like, whatever, that's all well and good, but it's just not a realistic depiction of how things work anymore. It's just not otherwise, you know, God bless her, but I just don't think that that Kim K. As an actress would be number one on a call sheet above Glenn Close and Sarah Paulson.

[Matt Rogers]

Never.

[Jake Shane]

Of course not. It's all about social currency.

[Bowen Yang]

Right. And she may. She may gag the girls.

[Matt Rogers]

She may gag the girls.

[Bowen Yang]

Who knows? And I just want to say to something to everyone here who sets up the mics, thank you. Everyone here sets up the rigs. Thank you. Because you've given us a platform to be gay guys with voices and maybe Gay guys with voices is title.

[Matt Rogers]

Gay guys with voices is title of the.

[Jake Shane]

That I think is a great depiction of what we do.

[Matt Rogers]

That is a great depiction of K.

[Bowen Yang]

We are a depiction before we do. Adam thinks 20. Should we at least throw Beyonce a bone here?

[Jake Shane]

100%.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, we didn't even. We didn't even. We paid about her.

[Jake Shane]

I'll tell you my favorite album by her Go if you're interested.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, is it B day?

[Jake Shane]

No, it's not. There's two. It's self titled. And four.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, God bless you.

[Bowen Yang]

God bless you. Lemonade is the best one. But yes, I mean, school in life.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God, my daughter.

[Bowen Yang]

You really are his daughter.

[Jake Shane]

I miss you.

[Matt Rogers]

I miss you like every day.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what doesn't get the. Doesn't get their respect.

[Matt Rogers]

Tonight I'm gonna dance for you.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what? At the time, everyone was like, oh my God, this is the one. And then it was quickly forgotten and then she does it again live. And it's I care.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, oh.

[Jake Shane]

Also prime example of she thought culture gave up on her after that. Self titled. Yeah, I swear, it's like a trend.

[Matt Rogers]

But wait, can I talk to you about school in life?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, it's the best song ever.

[Matt Rogers]

Two things were happening in the summer of 2012. I was applying to med school, but I was like, this is the wrong choice. I am depressed. I'm probably gonna move back in with my parents in Colorado. I wanna do comedy secretly, but I don't think I should pursue it.

[Jake Shane]

How old were you?

[Matt Rogers]

21.

[Bowen Yang]

We had just graduated.

[Matt Rogers]

We just graduated NYU. And I'd seen Matt at some like, party like in the spring the last time. Like, we were like, we were not like the close that we are now. Basically the headline is I was depressed. And then what snapped me out of it was me walking down Broadway school and life comes on. Something about that play felt different. I listened to the time many times before. But then the lyric, stop living in regret, baby, it's not over yet.

[Jake Shane]

Oh my God, I'm gonna throw up. I'm seriously gonna throw up. I totally forgot about that. That song is so fucking beautiful.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the most beautiful goofy movie ass song you've ever heard in your life. That 90s like, bam goofy movie.

[Jake Shane]

Did you watch the accompanying documentary, life is better dream? Yes, of course we watched Life is better Dream or the road to 4. Whatever she did, she did.

[Bowen Yang]

Demi Lovato was just on. And I go, I've seen all your documentaries.

[Jake Shane]

Every single one, front to back. What'd she say? Thank you. I have seen every.

[Bowen Yang]

By the way, that new album we were gonna get is gonna tear you off. It's called it's not that Deep.

[Jake Shane]

And is it like.

[Bowen Yang]

It's deep.

[Jake Shane]

It's deep.

[Matt Rogers]

It's deep. It's that deep.

[Jake Shane]

Any standouts? Because it'll be out by this time.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Frequency.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, we're gonna play some tracks. Okay.

[Jake Shane]

I'm very curious.

[Bowen Yang]

There's a song called Frequency. So basically it's like. It's like really hard club sounds for, like, fags. Like, so it feels like. It feels like there's like, definitely the Brat influence. But with Demi vocals, do you think.

[Jake Shane]

It'S gonna be her CXOX in the moment? It's gonna be like, meh. And then everyone's gonna be like, where were we?

[Bowen Yang]

I definitely want the girls to be responding more to what's out there already because Fast and Hero Night are out there right now as we're recording this, and I feel like the girls are being slow to it. But I'm. I'm. We're telling you, the new Demi is. It's gonna.

[Matt Rogers]

Is game changing up. And I don't care. They said this. They said this on. Let me say this. Peyton Dick said this on her podcast with Hunter Harris. This. She goes, I don't want to hear that. Demi Lovato isn't brat. The girl did heroin 100. She was non binary for two weeks. That's the most. Those are the most Brat coated.

[Bowen Yang]

She spoke to a ghost.

[Jake Shane]

She punched a girl.

[Bowen Yang]

She said, I'm gonna beat that up.

[Matt Rogers]

She did.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

She's brat. Like, I don't want to hear it.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, Demi is so.

[Bowen Yang]

And she was Camp Rock and she was camp. That's the most brat thing ever. Camp Rock was Demi's boom clap.

[Jake Shane]

And, like, was she on drugs?

[Bowen Yang]

That's actually roller culture number 10. Camp Rock was Demi's boom class.

[Matt Rogers]

She was mean to Raven Simone on the. On Sunny with a Chance. And they. And they confronted each other about.

[Jake Shane]

Raven Simone was on Sunny with a.

[Matt Rogers]

Chance as like, she guest starred on Sunday with a Chance. And then they. They talk about in the child support documentary, they, like, interview each other. Well, Demi interviews Raven, and Raven was like, you were not the nicest. And it was. It's actually iconic. And then Demi's like, I'm so sorry.

[Jake Shane]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Because Raven was. Because Demi was on drugs. Many, many.

[Bowen Yang]

But I will say she. She seems great and her work is incredible. I mean like, it's really, really, really good. And then we heard the final song is called Ghost. And basically now when you google Demi Lovato Ghost, it's not just her singing to a ghost is going to come up. Also a song ghost, which makes it genius. Brandon Creed.

[Matt Rogers]

Brandon Creed.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait.

[Jake Shane]

Words out of my mouth. Manager of the year. Manager of the year.

[Bowen Yang]

Last night.

[Matt Rogers]

I saw him last night.

[Jake Shane]

Manager of the. I was like, oh my gosh. I was literally about to talk about him. He is excited. Exceptional at what he role model. Demi, Charlie, Ariana, Troy, Savon. Am I missing someone? I think that's.

[Bowen Yang]

Doesn't he have.

[Matt Rogers]

That's the tea.

[Jake Shane]

He has Mark Ronson. He has Tam and Paula.

[Matt Rogers]

He such a cool roster.

[Bowen Yang]

Me and T and Paula have the same trainer.

[Jake Shane]

Do you really?

[Bowen Yang]

And I. I didn't know this until I get. I get to my trainer and this guy Kevin is leaving and I.

[Matt Rogers]

My.

[Bowen Yang]

My trainer jargon goes, oh, do you know also Benny Drama's trainer? He goes, oh, oh, do you know Kevin? I was like, oh no, hi. He leaves. And then my trainer Junior goes yeah, I really like his music. And I go, who is that? And he goes, tame Impala. And I was like, for sure, right?

[Jake Shane]

You gotta go Houdini.

[Bowen Yang]

I walked off. I was like, you gotta be kidding. I didn't know it was him cuz he had a different hairstyle.

[Jake Shane]

Have you ever heard the song eventually by them?

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Jake Shane]

Give it a listen.

[Bowen Yang]

So gay guys like Tim and Paula, not only.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, like, I like. The only like type of music like that I like is like Tame Impala and I love the Strokes.

[Bowen Yang]

You're gonna love Coachella, dude.

[Jake Shane]

Every time. I've seen the Strokes multiple times, like at festivals. And I always leave before my favorite song of all time comes on someday by the Stroke.

[Bowen Yang]

Why do you leave?

[Jake Shane]

Because it's like no one else wants to hear the Strokes and it's my fate. And also, have you ever.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you gonna go to Coachella?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Apple Card Announcer]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, well, we'll go to the Strokes. With me? Yeah, we'll go to the Strokes together.

[Jake Shane]

You heard it here first.

[Matt Rogers]

You, Jake. We're going to the Strokes together.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. As long as it's not at the same time.

[Bowen Yang]

He points to every camera. You heard it here first.

[Jake Shane]

Well, seriously, don't. I'm not forgetting. As long as it's not at the same time as Biebercella because I will not miss Biebercella.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, Biebercella might not start on time. Let's just say that.

[Jake Shane]

Right, but if Biebercella. If Biebercella is happening, he needs to do Ghost also, which is, you know the rumor.

[Bowen Yang]

I heard that. I heard a rumor that they have SZA booked.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I heard that too.

[Bowen Yang]

In case Bieber doesn't pan out. Out.

[Jake Shane]

I heard that as well.

[Matt Rogers]

But I heard the Bieber. The Bieber's deal and contract is so insured to lock him the in.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, after Frank Ocean, I. My thing was, I couldn't believe they were not that Bieber is like a risky artist to book. I don't want to say that, like, because I. I think that a lot of the commentary about him is obviously unfair and. And has been. And. And by the way, his albums Swag and Swag two Panty Droppers, justice for Justice. Justice for Justice. Yeah. And Purpose for Purpose.

[Jake Shane]

I listened to justice the night I lost my virginity and what? Yes. I got home after he hit the sweet spot. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Keep us the game.

[Matt Rogers]

So this is an example of an album you listen to after a night out.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. And I almost brought it up, but I didn't. And then now I am. And I remember being in bed being like, wow, what just happened? Like, and then Ghost came on and.

[Bowen Yang]

I was like, put it on me, baby.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

It's been overdue.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, it's just like putting in my booty. Make my heart stop.

[Jake Shane]

Do you see similarities in Justin and Britney?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

I can't even talk about Britney.

[Jake Shane]

Get into it.

[Bowen Yang]

It's heartbreaking. Yeah, it's heartbreaking. And that's, I think, why it's fine to be overly kind and like, really, like, laudatory and appreciate these girls and like. Because you know what? It's hard and it's not that deep.

[Jake Shane]

I love your life of a showgirl. Phone.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you get the. No. You didn't get the phone?

[Matt Rogers]

I got the Midnight's phone.

[Jake Shane]

Ooh, I'm gonna go for Midnights.

[Bowen Yang]

We're at the. We were at the Apple thing and they revealed the iPhone. Air.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And ponyang goes. Everything's getting skinnier.

[Jake Shane]

Well, he's not wrong.

[Matt Rogers]

Not wrong.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you gonna get that? Are you gonna get the air? I was actually.

[Matt Rogers]

It's. It's waiting for me at the house.

[Jake Shane]

And by the way, I'm buying that Switch game that you recommend.

[Matt Rogers]

Did Fantasy Life I. The Girl who steals Time. Jake, you're gonna love it and we have to play together. And I think you would like it too.

[Jake Shane]

What did you. Were you guys ever like Pokemon kids?

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. I was too.

[Matt Rogers]

Are you excited for the new one?

[Jake Shane]

Well, I'm not like a new Pokemon guy. I was an old like silver and gold.

[Matt Rogers]

Like that was the best. Best generation.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, it's like dime something.

[Matt Rogers]

Diamond pearl. Diamond pearl. Black white.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, black.

[Matt Rogers]

Fire reds, Sapphire green. Fire leaf green. Leaf green.

[Jake Shane]

Don't even play with me on the Game Boy Advance.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm sorry.

[Jake Shane]

Oh my God. And yeah, we would have been such good friends.

[Matt Rogers]

Six friends, one dinner. And then the bill.

[Bowen Yang]

Suddenly it's giving SAT math section.

[Matt Rogers]

Someone forgot they ordered oysters for the table.

[Bowen Yang]

Someone else swears their cocktail was just sparkling water with vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

Now the check looks like rent in Manhattan.

[Bowen Yang]

But this is when you step into your hero arc.

[Matt Rogers]

You pull out the Klarna card.

[Bowen Yang]

One swipe and the chaos disappears. No panic. No awkward payment requests to friends.

[Matt Rogers]

Just you. Completely in control.

[Bowen Yang]

Because the Klarna card isn't just another card.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the ultimate power move.

[Bowen Yang]

Sushi with Friends Pay now that outfit that makes you feel like a superstar.

[Matt Rogers]

Pay over time. Last minute flight Klarna card says yes, absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

So when the bill hits, you don't need a calculator. You need the Klarna card.

[Matt Rogers]

Learn more about the klarna [e-mail] debit flex card pay Later Plans issued by Webbank Deposits in your balance account are held at Webbank Member FDIC anywhere. Visa is accepted. Certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only included with a paid Klarna membership plan. JBL Tour Pro 3 earbuds are for those who are the first to try something unique.

[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Matt Rogers]

I love being able to touch my buddy and control the volume. Feels amazing on the skin.

[Bowen Yang]

With a built in wireless transmitter that lets you plug and play with any device you want. The JBL Tour 3 connects you to all your favorite music, movies and games.

[Matt Rogers]

The wireless transmitter also allows for JBL superior spatial sound that takes any audio and turns it into a 360 immersive experience.

[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages right from the case.

[Matt Rogers]

Use the bigger, clear 1.57-inch touchscreen to see what song is playing or who's calling you. Or personalize the tactile screen with your favorite photo.

[Bowen Yang]

Check the dynamic lock screen to get info on battery life, status, time, messages, et cetera.

[Matt Rogers]

First doesn't follow. Grab a [e-mail] on eBay.

[Bowen Yang]

Every find has a story.

[Matt Rogers]

Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee, not just a T. The.

[Bowen Yang]

Band tee from the last show your favorite band ever played.

[Matt Rogers]

You wore it everywhere. Then your boyfriend started wearing it, which was cute.

[Bowen Yang]

Cute until he dumped you and took.

[Matt Rogers]

It with him, which was not so cute.

[Bowen Yang]

But he was. I miss him. Anyway, now you're on ebay.

[Matt Rogers]

And there it is. Same tea from the same tour, still living in your memory rent free forever.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, screw you, Dave.

[Matt Rogers]

The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you.

[Bowen Yang]

Except Dave.

[Matt Rogers]

But ebay isn't just forgetting whatever your ex/xbff stole back.

[Bowen Yang]

We miss you. It's also for that rare championship foul ball that you caught, then heroically gave to the kid next to you. You're welcome. Scoot.

[Matt Rogers]

And where else are you gonna find your first car? A RAV4 from 2003, the one you.

[Bowen Yang]

Wish you never sold but now finally got the chance to take back home?

[Matt Rogers]

I'm buying a car on ebay. For good this time.

[Bowen Yang]

Shop ebay for millions of finds, each with a story. Ebay. Things people love.

[Matt Rogers]

That's a good tagline. No one can resist a rule of culture. So here's one for the dating Fun Rule of Culture 72.

[Bowen Yang]

Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values. Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble. And it makes sense. It's not just about matching with someone. It's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe with shared interests and prompts. You don't just see a profile, you get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.

[Bowen Yang]

Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real. With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.

[Matt Rogers]

So whether your rule of culture is the best, first dates start with the shared hot take on Renaissance or Compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order. Download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.

[Bowen Yang]

Download Bumble and start your love story. Wait, I have my. I don't think so, honey. Can you do my time?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God. I'm coming for your door.

[Jake Shane]

No, no, no, no.

[Bowen Yang]

It's okay.

[Matt Rogers]

This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so honey's time starts now.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so, honey. That Bowen Yang hasn't been on therapists. It's gotta happen. And you know what? You both really need to. Louise, I'm happy you're here because I really feel like something needs to be got on the books now. Yeah, well, I'm literally watching you guys connect. It's making my heart glow. Making my heart stop. And I. I'm the opposite of Sexyy Red with a dick in her butt. Her heart stop right now. My heart is going.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh.

[Bowen Yang]

And it's fluttering and flying because I feel like my. My little brother and my sister have connected. And then I. Now I know you have a daughter. I. I don't think you had a daughter. Really?

[Matt Rogers]

I haven't had a daughter.

[Jake Shane]

Am I your first?

[Bowen Yang]

I think you might be his first daughter. Like the film with Katie Holmes. And I don't think so, honey, that it's taken this long for you guys to really slay so. Because I feel this has been one of our best episodes in recent memory.

[Jake Shane]

Stop it.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm absolutely not lying. And I. I don't think so, honey, that the world has been deprived of the greatness that is going to be a Bowen Yang x Jake Shane on Therapus because that is gonna gag the girls. And I can't wait to see you in that chair in that gorgeous set.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, I love that set. You have the best end production set.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's one minute. Talk about the set. It's gorgeous. Talk about that.

[Bowen Yang]

Because I do think we kind of need to figure out our aesthetic. We like.

[Matt Rogers]

We like it at Cosmo, but, you know, we can maybe spruce it up.

[Jake Shane]

My set is made by these people at Interwoven Studios. I will give you their contact. They're amazing. And I have a person on my team named Harley, and she does all my creative and so she works with me on everything. So for the first set we did 60s. I think this set was 70s. I wanted to go 80s. Louise bitched me out about it.

[Matt Rogers]

Louise, what did you say again?

[Jake Shane]

You actually told me I had bad ideas.

[Bowen Yang]

You've been spewing lies.

[Jake Shane]

That was a Lie.

[Bowen Yang]

What do they call you? Chief of staff? What? Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

No, Manager.

[Matt Rogers]

She's my manager.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Manager. Chief of staff.

[Jake Shane]

She runs. She runs my life.

[Matt Rogers]

No, Louise, I want you to know, like, you.

[Bowen Yang]

You. There should be, like, big articles written about you. No, I really. I really. Don't you feel proud of her?

[Jake Shane]

Beyond.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

We have something planned for Saturday. She goes, oh, Friday and Saturday. Are you. Again. There goes my personal time.

[Bowen Yang]

What I'm saying is you. You have Sarkois.

[Jake Shane]

She does.

[Bowen Yang]

You really do.

[Jake Shane]

She does.

[Bowen Yang]

My chief of staff has star quality, too. Melissa.

[Matt Rogers]

She does have star quality.

[Jake Shane]

I think I've met Melissa.

[Bowen Yang]

You probably have, because we're now inseparable.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I definitely have met Melissa.

[Bowen Yang]

She put me in this. In this.

[Matt Rogers]

Fuzzy. Fuzzy.

[Jake Shane]

What are you wearing today to the panel?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, actually, it's gonna be really cute. Okay, Bowen Yang, are you ready to do your. I don't think so, honey. All right. This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think so, honey. When the fart don't come out, I don't like it. When it's. When it's stuck in there and it's. I know you're in there. Get out of there. You know what I'm saying?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

When the gas builds up and then it's like, okay, now we're playing coy. Like, get out of there. Y' all know what I'm talking about. Everyone's looking away in shame as if they don't relate. This happens to us all. Especially to me. I know I have GI Issues. I've tried to get my gut health figured out.

[Bowen Yang]

Make my heart stop.

[Matt Rogers]

Make my heart stop. I want the fart to start. 30 seconds. Print it on a shirt. I want the fart to start. And otherwise, I'm just there with the bubble kind of squirming around in there.

[Bowen Yang]

So no honey awful. I want, like, it's. I like.

[Matt Rogers]

I get it. It's. It's poop dust. I know. It's gross. I know. We're all a little squeamish. It's theory of the abject. We're all like, oh, we want. There were gay guys talking about their buttholes again.

[Bowen Yang]

Five seconds.

[Matt Rogers]

Farts need to be discoursed a little bit more. We're stigmatizing farts.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's one minute. I just want to say that I looked over so. So Doug is in the room today. He's not usually in the room. And I looked over two times during this episode, and he was lit up when you did that. This fart humor and tame impala. Both times I saw you beaming, smiling, and more. You loved it. You liked him.

[Matt Rogers]

Both tame impala and farts.

[Bowen Yang]

How do we get this together?

[Matt Rogers]

I just. I have to see as a GI person.

[Jake Shane]

No, you know what it is also, It's a little bit of fart shame. So the reason Sfar gets stuck is because you have that brief moment of like, should it come out or should it not? And then it's like, you know what? I'm not gonna fucking come out then.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, let me tell you something. He's usually not very shy about it.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I'm not shy. No, I'm not shy.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like an angry Egyptian king.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm not shy around my friends.

[Bowen Yang]

And maybe you need a dicking your ass. Make your heart stop.

[Jake Shane]

Sorry, I was really.

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe that would make the fart fart.

[Matt Rogers]

Fart, fart, fart start.

[Jake Shane]

Wa.

[Bowen Yang]

Isn't it ice spice? That said, you ain't the shit. You ain't even a fart.

[Jake Shane]

Yes, that is ice spice.

[Bowen Yang]

Bitch. You ain't even fart. You know what is the fart and the shit Yor. I don't think so, honey.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, hold on, hold on.

[Bowen Yang]

Time.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, ready?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God. I can't wait.

[Bowen Yang]

This is a moment in history. This is Jake Shane doing an. I don't think so, honey. That's a moment.

[Matt Rogers]

That's a moment, and I need to.

[Jake Shane]

Like, not think about how important it is to me so I can just let it rip. Oh, yeah. Like a fart.

[Matt Rogers]

Like a fart.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. This is Jake Shane's. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now.

[Jake Shane]

I don't think so, honey. Ordering dessert at the same restaurant you just ordered dinner at. I am uncomfortable. I've eaten both an appetizer and an entree. The restaurant is hot. I've gone through every possible discourse with you that I could have possibly gone through. I want to leave. Yeah, There are specific restaurants made for dessert, I. E. Frozen yogurt shops. I eat ice cream shops, I. E. Bakeries. Get me the fuck out of this establishment. I am so uncomfortable when. And also there are people waiting for our table. If we have gone to a restaurant that is to going. People want the table. Why are we ordering dessert? My stomach wants something cold. I don't want a piece of warm cake that the chef is famous for. I'm uncomfortable. I've allotted enough time for appetizers, entree, and then 15 minutes for check time. I don't have the extra 20 minutes of cake. I'm uncomfortable. I want to leave. I need to get out of there. And also, the dessert is never that good.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Jake Shane]

Get me froyo any day. Get me the fuck out of the restaurant.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's one minute. It is so true. We had dinner at. I was like. Did I say something? Like, all right, got to go. So fun. Love you so much. Literally would die for you. Like, out the door and in the gym. You leave really fast because I will now reveal we've gone to the gym together. In Cannes.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. After I had sex with a man and I called Matt. Freaking out.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

And he said, oh, sweetie, you're friends with too many straight girls.

[Matt Rogers]

Was it. Was it. Was it all okay in the end?

[Jake Shane]

Of course it was all okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, good.

[Jake Shane]

Matt was. Was like, girl.

[Bowen Yang]

I was like. He was like, have you ever had sex with a guy from Grindr? I was like, babe, have you ever? I was like, sit on my lap. Let me tell you a story. Let me spin you a yarn.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I. First of all, I relate to that. You're so right. You're so right.

[Jake Shane]

Did I do a good job?

[Bowen Yang]

You were incredible.

[Matt Rogers]

I was foot stomping. Why is you saying I am uncomfortable multiple times? Sending.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm uncomfortable. Uncomfortable.

[Jake Shane]

Like, we're sitting in, like, a booth and, like, what? And, like, I'm like, I have to. I have to go pee. And someone's like, all right, well, let me get out. Well, while you're getting out, let's just get up and leave. Do you know what I mean? Like, let's just get up and leave.

[Matt Rogers]

It's intermission or whatever. It's like, well, then we might as well leave.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, God, I hate it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I. I get it. I will say I. I think I'm guilty of this. I always want to see the dessert menu.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God. It's my number one pet peeve. They say, do you want to see the dessert menu? I'm okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you. Yeah, I always want to see it. You know what? I will say I will cop, too. I always see the menu, and I never do really order.

[Matt Rogers]

Is this a Jewish thing? Because it's a Chinese. It's an Asian thing for sure, where it's like, we're like, what do you mean, get dessert?

[Jake Shane]

I mean, I'm just impatient and miserable. So that might be a Jewish thing. I don't know. Sorry. But I'm sorry.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm making it about that.

[Jake Shane]

And no, but I like a quick meal.

[Matt Rogers]

Me, too.

[Jake Shane]

That's why I like dim sum.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you.

[Jake Shane]

That's why I like dim sum.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I get upset about? Like, when the meal hits the table, I get really sad. I'm hungry, of course. But it means that the conversation is almost over.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't know. Because the meal hitting that.

[Matt Rogers]

You have a conversation anywhere.

[Jake Shane]

I can't have a conversation anywhere. I am there for food. What I love about dim sum is you sit down. Cart in front of your face. What the fuck do you want? I want this, that, and third. Great. You want the track. We're out. We're done.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, we're done. It's so quick. It's so perfect. You want more? Oh, yeah, there's another. There's. The cart's coming back around.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, don't you worry about it.

[Matt Rogers]

No, wait time.

[Jake Shane]

Love a fast casual. All love Chipotle.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Fast casual is you and I. Yeah. No Chipotle. I gotta.

[Matt Rogers]

I gotta go on therapist.

[Jake Shane]

You gotta come on therapeutics.

[Bowen Yang]

Literally, it should happen, like, now.

[Jake Shane]

Wicked press.

[Matt Rogers]

Wicked press.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, so to literally, it's coming off of this. This conversation about needing to leave. Like, I actually do need to leave because I have Doug pack in 10 minutes. But I will say this. You must return to the show many times.

[Jake Shane]

Really?

[Matt Rogers]

You are brother daughter. I'm sorry. It's all incest. It's all. But we're.

[Jake Shane]

I've had such a lovely time with you.

[Bowen Yang]

This has been so fun, and I'm so happy that it happened. And because he's almost never in Los Angeles, so I knew that once we had to connect. But also, we're gonna return to a conversation about getting you out to New York. Not to freak Louise out.

[Matt Rogers]

It's gonna happen.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

She wants it.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, you want it?

[Jake Shane]

No, I know. Our recent trip. Yeah, our recent trip. We were like, ooh, who maybe not know?

[Bowen Yang]

It's interesting.

[Matt Rogers]

We'll wash that off.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't worry. We'll clean the slate.

[Bowen Yang]

This is so fun. Therapist, obviously, is a podcast you probably already love and. And are consuming all the time. But if you're not, you should. And more to come. By the way, we didn't even talk about how great you are on Hacks. Oh, my God, thank you. You're so good, baby. I'm so proud of you.

[Jake Shane]

Thank you. We talked about the pop girls, and isn't that what matters?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Truly. That's why you must return.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

We end every episode with a song.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm not a teacher, baby, but I can teach you something. Not a preacher, but we can pray if you wanna. Not a doctor, but I can make you feel better.

[Jake Shane]

And I'm great at writing physical love letters. I'm a freak all day, all night.

[Matt Rogers]

Ooh ha da da Boy out of.

[Bowen Yang]

Sight and I'm crazy all day, all night who needs a degree when you're schooling life? Did I mess up one of the lyrics?

[Matt Rogers]

No, I messed it up anyway, Bye Las Culturistas is a Production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.

[Bowen Yang]

Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Deca Ramos, edited and.

[Matt Rogers]

Mixed by Doug Behm and our music.

[Bowen Yang]

Is by Henry Kabirsky. Six friends, one dinner and then the bill. It's chaos. Oysters for the table, cocktails that were basically water. The total Manhattan Rent.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Jake Shane]

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