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Matt Rogers
Look, Matt.
Bowen Yang
Where?
Matt Rogers
Oh, I see my eye.
Bowen Yang
Oh, my. Bowen. Look over there.
Amy Poehler
Wow.
Matt Rogers
Is that culture?
Bowen Yang
Yes. Wow.
Matt Rogers
Las culturistas.
Bowen Yang
Ding dong. Las culturistas calling. Get into it.
Matt Rogers
Mayhem in the desert.
Bowen Yang
Mayhem in the desert. Merch. My favorite color, the color that works best for me and my skin tone, neon.
Matt Rogers
I can't tell if you're joking because Matt is one of our olive toned legends and you really must cherish this fact about yourself.
Bowen Yang
I like you've been.
Matt Rogers
Can I say as a platonic person in your life.
Bowen Yang
Here we go.
Matt Rogers
You looked really good this weekend.
Bowen Yang
Shut up. Were you looking at my photos? Scantily clad? I sort of went there in my photos.
Matt Rogers
You could have withheld from posting if.
Bowen Yang
You didn't want to.
Matt Rogers
And one of these sort of fringe things that happens. One of the fringe consequences is that sometimes your friends go, oh.
Bowen Yang
Sometimes your friends get a little chub for you. It's actually roller coaster number 16. Sometimes your own friends get a little chub for you. Well, thanks. Awkward. Wait, can I say lucky for you though, because I've went to. Now went to weekend one. We're going to weekend two. Yeah, it's going to be 20 degrees colder.
Matt Rogers
In a good way.
Bowen Yang
It's going to be. Yes. It's going to be in the mid-70s. For my legend, the God said it's Bowen Yang's first Coachella. Cool it down.
Matt Rogers
Although earthquake today.
Bowen Yang
Heard about this when I was driving back. Couldn't feel a thing because I was.
Matt Rogers
Gunning it in the HOV and you were bouncing on that thing that you couldn't even. Sometimes you were just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Bowen Yang
I haven't felt an earthquake once. No, that's a lie.
Matt Rogers
That's not true. We were in Palm Springs the last time we felt an earthquake.
Bowen Yang
Felt that one.
Matt Rogers
Mitra Johari was sitting next to me and Sandy Hoenig was there. Sandy Hoenig was there. We were stoned and we were at the Tropicana eating dinner.
Bowen Yang
Tropical.
Matt Rogers
Tropical. I'm sorry. Eating dinner full on. Earthquake. I was eating my chicken piccata or whatever the fuck and then I was like, mitra Duhari is shaking her ass in this booth. What is going on?
Bowen Yang
Which was unlike her. She usually just sits very still and eats.
Matt Rogers
Very still and eats. And then we realized in the commotion at the restaurant that it was an earthquake.
Bowen Yang
A locomotion.
Matt Rogers
Loco motion.
Bowen Yang
Kylie was not at Coachella. She's everywhere else.
Matt Rogers
She's everywhere else. It was the New York gay night last week, the Kylie Minogue concert and I was going to try to go, but we were at work.
Bowen Yang
I've seen her on accident 19 times in the last year. And that's not to say it needs to be an accident for me to see Kylie Minogue. It just so happens. Everywhere I am, Kylie Minogue is.
Matt Rogers
That's amazing. Oh, that's so nice.
Bowen Yang
You.
Matt Rogers
You must understand how important Kylie Minogue.
Bowen Yang
She'S important to the culture. She's invited on the pod. We would have a great conversation with Kylie, starting with the locomotion and going all through her career. Just to speak quickly on Gaga. It was unfucking believable. You're gonna have the best time. And also, Charlie was amazing. I'm so excited to go with you.
Matt Rogers
I'm so excited.
Bowen Yang
But here's the thing. In order to sort of get there, we have this other milestone that's happening, which is this. This episode that we're doing today. I have to say, probably the reason I do comedy is sitting across from us. Yeah. And what an instant. What. What a. What a nice, soothing soul moment that it's so easy to be around her.
Matt Rogers
I walked in, she was making coffee, stirring her mug with a knife.
Bowen Yang
It's a knife when. It's a knife when.
Matt Rogers
Period. Period.
Bowen Yang
So this is a big day, Bo.
Matt Rogers
She's already podcasting. Royalty.
Bowen Yang
Number one in the land.
Matt Rogers
Not even a month into the game and she's number one in the land. Good. Hang on, Spotify.
Bowen Yang
Hey, Joe Rogan. Shut up.
Matt Rogers
Get bent over.
Bowen Yang
Cool it.
Matt Rogers
Cool it. It is fantastic. Just as the title suggests. It's a good hanging. We'll talk about the format because there are some innovative things you thought you couldn't innovate in the podcasting space.
Bowen Yang
No.
Matt Rogers
You haven't met our guests.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Restless Like Tour is back. One of my favorite live comedy shows in the last lifetime of mine and my last lifetime. It's my favorite live comedy show.
Bowen Yang
The blueprint of two people doing comedy, literally. There had never been anyone before Carol.
Matt Rogers
Burnett and Julie Andrews. Who. That's my example, gay man.
Bowen Yang
Julie Andrews and Carol Burnett is like. That's so funny. Like, you think of them as, like, the comedy, but we forget about them.
Matt Rogers
As comedy duo icons. You know what I mean?
Bowen Yang
They turned it. You know what we need to do? We need to do Abbott and Costello Meet the Monsters, but Matt and Bowen meet the monsters. I'm pitching this to Universal. Have us meet the wolf man. I'm serious. This is a film franchise. This is Matt and Bowen meets Dracula. Meet the Bride of Frankenstein.
Matt Rogers
Meet Victoria Frankenstein.
Bowen Yang
Oh, we're Coming for her. Have you heard about Victoria Grant Frankenstein? The. The great grand granddaughter of. Well, let's ask her after we bring her in. Everybody. She's a legend. Please welcome. Hey, Mimi Baller.
Matt Rogers
Hey.
Amy Poehler
That was like being at my own funeral.
Bowen Yang
Floating above.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Bowen Yang
I was dissociating, like, rise like the monsters. Have you heard about Victoria Frankenstein?
Amy Poehler
Oh, my gosh. I don't.
Matt Rogers
We asked Tina the same exact thing in her episode. We didn't mean to. Yes. And she mixed up with Lisa Frankenstein, the Diablo Cody movie.
Bowen Yang
Okay, but have you heard about Victoria Frankenstein?
Amy Poehler
Yes, I think so.
Bowen Yang
She basically.
Amy Poehler
Tell me more.
Bowen Yang
So there's the new theme park in Universal Studios in Orlando, Epic Universe. And there's the Dark Universe, which is sort of like all the monsters. And the big ride in the pre show, it's hosted by Victoria Frankenstein, who is like the girl boss, great granddaughter of Victor Frankenstein. And her whole gig is she wants to show that the monsters can be contained. And she wants to basically take you around the mansion so you can see all the monsters. And, you know, something goes wrong.
Amy Poehler
She's like, dom, energy, like, I got it covered. And then, yeah, she's in over her head.
Bowen Yang
No.
Matt Rogers
And this just goes to show you, like, can women. Dom.
Amy Poehler
We wanted to know, should women be in charge? That's what we're here to talk about.
Matt Rogers
And the answer is maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
Bowen Yang
First chance, I think, because it's a theme park ride and something's gonna go wrong, people are gonna have a lot to say. Everyone le leaving is all those Florida people leaving are gonna be like, well.
Amy Poehler
I know you guys are big theme park people. I am major.
Bowen Yang
So this is where you and Tina sort of go, in fact.
Amy Poehler
And I just did a show in Orlando, and she was very excited to get me to go on the rides. And it. I did not want to go on the rides. I'm not a theme park person. All right, sorry. I know. It's.
Bowen Yang
First of all, we. We are the ones who should probably take a seat, right?
Amy Poehler
Our guide was talking about you two.
Bowen Yang
Wait, okay. Was it Sam?
Amy Poehler
Sam?
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Lovely.
Amy Poehler
And he. He had the best time with you.
Bowen Yang
We had the best time with him. And he. He was. He was really a classic. He was the perfect prototype of what you want. That person.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Disney World is overwhelming.
Bowen Yang
Oh, yes. One of the. It's.
Amy Poehler
And too many, like, too far away.
Matt Rogers
Too far away. Too spread out, too spread out. A lot of the same images kind of like being projected at you from, like Plato's Cave. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, is this. Is this an illusion? It's not. It's real. Like, you have to come out.
Amy Poehler
I'm also at an age where I don't want to be shook anymore. Like, I don't want to be so shook. I can't handle it anymore. I don't like being nauseous. I don't like the lack of control. It definitely feels like I never get to the. It's like when people say, when you get a runner's high.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And you never happen. That's what it feels like at. At. At those theme parks, which is like, aren't you feeling it?
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And you're like, I'm. I'm so sorry. I'm not. I don't know. I know.
Bowen Yang
Do you know what's the. What's the thing that I never realized about all theme parks until I brought a friend who pointed it out? And then I. I can't unhear it every time. The music never stops. It's always. And if that's how it is in my brain all the time, I think maybe. Maybe we share that with Tina.
Matt Rogers
Right?
Bowen Yang
But, like, it never stops being adventure music in my brain. So Greta was like, it doesn't stop, does it? It never stops. I was like, oh, I guess not.
Amy Poehler
And Dratch and Tina and I were all together, and they went and had dinner at Epcot Mexico, and I was supposed to meet them, and they texted me, and they were like, you would hate it here. Don't come. And I was like, that's a real friend. That's a real friend.
Matt Rogers
That's a real friend.
Bowen Yang
I literally know where they went, because those guides have a place. They take us. And then there's a Neil Patrick Harris cocktail.
Matt Rogers
There's a Neil Patrick Harris cocktail.
Amy Poehler
Is it a Doogie Howser cocktail?
Bowen Yang
No, no. It's like a horchata thing.
Amy Poehler
I tried it.
Bowen Yang
I didn't love it. Neil. I'm so.
Matt Rogers
That's okay.
Bowen Yang
I just had a tequila rocks.
Amy Poehler
That's okay.
Matt Rogers
But you guys are normally so aligned on your activities on tour.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we're pretty. We. We do, like, very similar things. We go to Bloomingdale. We, like, get us buy a sweater. We, like, have, you know, we watch, like, we got to watch the White Lotus finale and our hotel room together, and that was really fun. And, yeah, we do, like, simple. Like, we're like, ooh. Like, did you see? There's, like, a place for croissants around the corner. We'll go get one. That's about it. But yeah. This one. We were not aligned.
Matt Rogers
That's okay. That's okay. But they. But they knew that the Mexican place was not your.
Amy Poehler
That is what a real friend. Don't you feel like? A real friend knows. Don't come here.
Bowen Yang
A real friend sometimes says, you're not invited for your own good. That's a rule of culture number 30. A real friend sometimes says, you're not.
Matt Rogers
Invited for your own good. Well, talk about this idea. Do you feel like your life is scored? Because I'm watching the Pit now and I'm loving that. It's not love the Pit. I love the Pit.
Bowen Yang
I gotta get into the Pit.
Matt Rogers
I just say we. We. We wrote it. We wrote a parody of the Pit called the Ditch. And it was East London. It took place in Shoreditch Medical. It was just me, Ego and Jonah Ham speaking in East London accents. And it was. It did not do great at dress because no one understood what we were saying. So that.
Bowen Yang
That sometimes you gotta wait for the culture to catch up. I feel like the people are just now talking about the Pit.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. I feel like TikTok loves a pit. My TikTok loves the pit. But I mean, I look. No, Wiley. I've been a. No stand for 20. I mean, I've. I watched the entirety of ER three times.
Bowen Yang
That was your show.
Amy Poehler
I watched it again during the Pandemic, and then I watched it in the. When it came on. I used to be doing, like, improv at night and waiting tables. That was it. And I would smoke a bong at, like, 7:00 and watch ER reruns.
Bowen Yang
Let's go.
Amy Poehler
Because they used to be on, like, tnt.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
And then, like, go to work or go to a comedy show. And so I feel like I've known Noah forever.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. And to see him back in Scrubs has to be surreal. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And you know, Dr. Robbie's not in Scrubs.
Matt Rogers
He's got his hoodie over the hoodie.
Bowen Yang
This is why I need to watch the Pit.
Amy Poehler
He's.
Bowen Yang
To know what's up.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, but it's so good.
Matt Rogers
It's so good.
Bowen Yang
A bong, huh? You were for real.
Amy Poehler
I used to. Yeah, that was back, you know. God, let's see. 90. I was living in the East Village, So I was 26.
Bowen Yang
Maybe very similar. No, my. Our friend Dave had a bong probably until we were 27 and 28, and then it broke, which is the only reason we stopped using it. But I couldn't believe how high I would get to watch Homeland, like, fully Claire Danes having a very real breakdown. Like, we have to get her in that chair at some point and be like, how did you survive? Because she's shaking and convulsing because of her own brain. And I'm sitting there so high, like, just taking that.
Amy Poehler
Actually, when I was coming up here in the elevator, there was a gentleman. A gentleman. A nice young gentleman and a young man. And he had a chart with all this red string. And he was showing up, and they. And it smelled so much like weed. They really, really reeked of weed. And I was like, oh. I thought to myself, oh, weed. Remember that? Like, I. It's been so long. And I just had that. It was, like, nostalgic.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. We might be hitting that developmental time now between the two of us. Well, I don't know.
Bowen Yang
I don't know. I was so back this weekend. I. Coachella.
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah. You were Coachella.
Bowen Yang
No, well, actually, it is. It gets. What I like now is that there's so. It's such a science now that you can kind of know exactly what it is.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Yeah. I. I'm. Yeah. I. That was a different time, and I felt like I had no real responsibilities. Even though I felt like my life was overwhelming, I didn't have a lot of responsibility. So it was like, okay, if I was a little stone. But now I don't think I could handle it. Not anymore.
Matt Rogers
I think my ideal trip. That. My ideal trip is what you and I have connected on, which is what you've talked about in the last time I saw Restless Leg, which was going to Iceland. One of your sons or both of them?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, with one of my sons.
Matt Rogers
And just enjoying. Just getting high off of nature.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Matt Rogers
How about that?
Amy Poehler
Well, I also think that I've gotten to a point where, I mean, I don't barely drink anymore, where I know it sounds super cheesy, but actually being conscious, like, actually just being in the moment is like, oh, is like a high is a win. Because I'm always future tripping or I'm always thinking about what I just said or did, and I just feel such less personality hangover in general when I'm not altered. So I'm not that into being altered right now. Wow. With like. And also I'm older, and it just like, you need a. A lot of time to recover. And I stopped drinking right before the pandemic and was really grateful that I didn't really do it during it. And now it's not a. It's not. I'm not in a program or anything. But just like, every once in a while, maybe have a thing, but I don't really need it. And it feels very good.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Honestly, whenever I take my, like, six weeks, I feel like, wow, this is the new me. But I have over.
Matt Rogers
I don't know what.
Bowen Yang
I don't know what it is about the past two years, but maybe it's just mid-30s where I'm just like, sobriety, maybe. And then I'm. And then. And then, like, that all goes away. I'm like, nah, not for me.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I do think I can. If I can look to the future, I can see it for myself at some point. I can see it.
Amy Poehler
Alcohol is poison.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
But it's okay, you know, you can have a little poison. Like, just like, sugar is poison. You can have a. Like sugar. It's all poison.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
But I think especially as a woman of a certain age, you. You do start to feel the poison a little bit more. The poison really turns on you.
Matt Rogers
You.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And it just. You don't get the same kind of thing anymore.
Bowen Yang
No, it goes away.
Matt Rogers
Is it the microplastics in our brain as well?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I'm sorry to bring this up.
Amy Poehler
Are you worried about microplastics?
Matt Rogers
We were thinking of writing an update about. Because this thing came up in last week, this New York Times piece came out about microplastics. The equivalent of a spoon is in your head. Is it all of our brains?
Bowen Yang
No, stop. The equivalent of a.
Matt Rogers
You guys haven't heard this?
Amy Poehler
I.
Matt Rogers
The equivalent of a plastic Dairy Queen Blizzard spoon is in our brain in little granules, and there's really nothing we can do about it.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. But come on. First of all, you can't tell me that we're not better off than generations ago. We drink water. How about that?
Amy Poehler
Well, that is.
Bowen Yang
They didn't back.
Amy Poehler
We did not drink water growing up. Yeah, you're right about water and ever.
Matt Rogers
Are you being serious?
Amy Poehler
Yes. In school, no one made us drink water. No one talked about water. Water was not a thing. Like, you would go to a water fountain and you would drink. Like, you. You would drink and drink because you were so thirsty.
Bowen Yang
You didn't realize.
Amy Poehler
No water bottles.
Bowen Yang
No.
Amy Poehler
You didn't have. Like, maybe at a soccer game, they would have water. Maybe. But it was like.
Bowen Yang
Or like Gatorade or Powerade.
Amy Poehler
Never checked. Never said. Did you drink water? They never brought water. There was never. Now I'm obsessed. Obsessed with wine.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Do you have one of those. Those jugs that says the time of day?
Amy Poehler
I did have that But. And it was positive reinforcement. Like, you're doing it. You're doing great. You're almost there, whatever.
Bowen Yang
But now I. Molly Shannon had one of those on the side of. I love that for you. And, you know, she was always like, isn't it great? Isn't it great? It reminds me. I love it.
Amy Poehler
She was like, isn't it great?
Matt Rogers
Drink water, too.
Amy Poehler
I love that. Think about how great it was.
Bowen Yang
Something that's just so great about it. You know what I mean? I'm saying.
Amy Poehler
No, I have. I have a basic, like, white girl Stanley that I love because I like to tip it like. Like a gerbil. Like, I like the straw.
Bowen Yang
And I like being like, this is the second episode in a row that gerbils have come up. Oh, there's something in the culture about gerbils.
Matt Rogers
Like, they're guinea pigs.
Bowen Yang
Oh, guinea pigs was the last time rodents at large are having a moment, right? No, but what that's. What I'm saying is, like, when I was growing up, it was not water on the table. I'll tell you what, there was never a Coke, a Diet Coke, and a Sprite, two liters each.
Amy Poehler
Don't forget milk, babe.
Matt Rogers
I was just gonna say. We come. We shared this thing. We were. We came up when milk was king.
Bowen Yang
You were not getting osteoporosis, that's for sure.
Amy Poehler
You would chug a glass of milk at least once a day.
Bowen Yang
They said two. There was a time they were saying two. It was like Cindy Crawford on the COVID of whatever the. With her got milk mustache being like, if it's not two, you're gonna die of osteoporosis. And one of the. One of the things I remember my. My nana saying to me when I was little was she looked me in the eye and said, osteoporosis is not fun. And I was. I'm like. And now I'm scared.
Matt Rogers
And where is that in the culture now? Like, have we just forgotten about osteoporosis or.
Amy Poehler
Not only have we not forgotten about it, but as a woman of that age, all my friends are getting bone density tests.
Matt Rogers
Girls. And DEXA scan.
Amy Poehler
And we are. And everything is coming home to roost. Because a couple of things you get. I didn't know this. You get all your calcium before the age of 30. Number one, yep. Number two, if you are fair skin like myself, you don't get enough. You don't get enough Vitamin D. Vitamin D. You should be taking it. You're pretty screwed. Yeah, you guys might be okay. I know but, but, and also there's these things in LA that I'm obsessed with that I want to go to, which are like, they're, they're like salons for people who have osteopenia, which is pre osteoporosis, where you just, you know, you have to do heavy lifting now. Like, now I have to lift weights. So you have to do a lot.
Bowen Yang
Of weight, your bone density together.
Amy Poehler
Yes. And so you have to take your calcium and you have to do weights. And so there's like, programs where it's like, you do leg presses, you do whatever. And it's, it's just designed for women my age who are smart enough to get their bone density tests. And they're like, I have a little bit of, you know, osteopenia in my hips. I need to do leg presses.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Amy Poehler
So to. I know a lot about osteoporosis.
Matt Rogers
They're penia clubs.
Amy Poehler
There's penia and osis, osteoporia and parosis. So, yeah, one is pre, one is. You got it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And there's things you can do, but you kind of like, you know, we're. Our bones stop growing at like 18.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, they, well, I, I, When I started working out, like, more seriously a few months ago, my trainer literally said, it's great that you start now because at 35, your bone density is completely gone. And then by 37, you lose any metabolism you ever had. And I was just like going cross side, like, oh, no.
Amy Poehler
It is wild that as a woman you go through being like a sex object and then maybe a mother and then maybe like menopause, and then they're like. And on your way out, you need to eat 45 grams of protein a day and lift very heavy weights or you're all.
Bowen Yang
Your bones will break if you don't turn into a monster.
Amy Poehler
Now it's like you got. And you're like, what?
Matt Rogers
What?
Amy Poehler
You're like, this can't be true. I can't. I have to go to the gym and lift the heaviest I've ever lifted.
Matt Rogers
Hey, what if we shuffled the order? What if you started off low bone density?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Then you become a sex or no. I think it'd be fun to end on incredible style.
Amy Poehler
That would be incredible. I mean, things are changing. But, you know, you can, you do. I'm sure you can do push ups, right? How so? They say women need to be able to do like 10 or 11 push ups, real push ups a day. And you got, you're just like, okay, well, I'll Try. It's hard.
Matt Rogers
Are you saying these are clubs specifically for osteophenic women?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, they're like physical therapy.
Matt Rogers
Sounds like heaven.
Amy Poehler
I agree. Because my age, I'm the youngest, oldest person I see.
Bowen Yang
And that you like 30s and 40s.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Amy Poehler
30S and 40s are a little tricky because you're like, I'm not as young as I used to be, but I don't feel old. And nobody like old people dismiss you. They're like, you're 30, whatever. Like, you know. But when you're in your 50s, you're not young. Right. And young people do not think you're young. No way. 50 is like a nightmare to them that wakes them up in the middle of the night. But you're. You feel young and old people are like, so you're the youngest, oldest person.
Matt Rogers
I got to say in. Please, please shut me up. If this sounds patronizing in any way, I feel like this current crop of 50 somethings is still aspirational to me.
Amy Poehler
Oh, agree.
Matt Rogers
I would rather be living your life. Honest to God, I would rather be going to Bloomingdale's and museums and things every day on tour than the bullshit that 30, 30 year olds feel.
Bowen Yang
We just did that. We had that moment. We were, we were in Berlin. We went to Berghain and we were there. We got. We went like Saturday at 2am thinking there was going to be a line. No, we. We soared in there. Like had a time.
Matt Rogers
We have with friends, we acquaintances. We have. Have been in that club for 48 hours. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
You know, people that have been there for days.
Matt Rogers
Let's see how long we last. We left after hour four.
Bowen Yang
It was maybe five or six. And it wasn't because it was just like, not. It was, it was great. We had the best time, but we were like, oh, you know what? We'll go home, we'll catch some Z's, we'll come back later. I text Bowen, I'm like, guys, say something. What if we didn't go back? What if. And then we walked to a museum and walked back because we realized we had to pay. So what did we do that afternoon? We walked to the museum and walked back. Didn't even go into the museum.
Amy Poehler
I'm here to tell you that if you enjoy that now, the future is very bright because best decade yet for me. 50s by far. Way better. And also, I have to say, to your point, Bowen, like women my age or the age of. In our 50s, it used to be kind of like maiden mother, crone. Those were the Those were the maiden mother, crone. Right. And now I think that we've managed to carve out our generation. My generation has carved out a step before crone.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And it's kind of like. I'm calling it, like, boss or something, but at some stage before you become, like, the wise witch.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Where you are allowed to actually, like, you know, enjoy the fruits of your labor, not be so beholden to, like, external validation, and you still, like, feel good.
Matt Rogers
I think it's just a full supplanting of crone.
Amy Poehler
Like, well, there is. I kind of. What crone means is, like, wisdom and, you know, like, medicine woman. But it's a tough word.
Matt Rogers
Crone is.
Amy Poehler
It's a tough word.
Matt Rogers
It's a tough word, but it's a word that I associate with Sex and the City. Because there's the theory that they each represent the four crones and, like, classical.
Bowen Yang
I didn't know there were classical Crohn's.
Matt Rogers
There were. There. There's, like, the four Crohn's.
Amy Poehler
And they were like, is it Shakespeare's crone?
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah, it might be Shakespeare's. They're like, yeah, Shakespeare's crones. Wise women, girl.
Bowen Yang
No one knew. No one knew. They didn't have the words for it back then. Amy. He was always bloated and shooting his brains out.
Amy Poehler
We should call it, like. Like, Medicine Woman.
Matt Rogers
Medicine Woman.
Bowen Yang
Diva. Diva. Wait, diva?
Matt Rogers
Is this. Is this extra step that you're talking about?
Amy Poehler
Okay. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
It's literally diva.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I'm wondering something about you two, though. About, like. Like, you being like, can't wait to get to Bloomingdale's. Like. But you guys also, like, share the fact that for a long time, you guys did entertainment's most difficult job. So did you feel like that, like, socially also was like, after that, on the other side of that, you were like, okay. You also had the kids, and.
Amy Poehler
But I didn't have kids when I was at snl, and I cannot believe the way I socialize. Like, SNLZ is such a crazy, extroverted, social job.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Amy Poehler
You see hundreds of people, like, during the week, and then you have. Do the show, and then you have to host the host.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, you're hosting the host.
Amy Poehler
Exactly. Then you have to go to the party, which I know is like, oh, go to a party. But it is still a work function, even as fun as it is. And I cannot believe, like, it is so much energy.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
That I can't believe I did it. I really. And I'm glad that I Was younger when I did it.
Bowen Yang
I'll just never forget because I told you this when we first met, but I was there. I was a standby kid. So I would wait on the standby lines and I would go. And then. I'll never forget. I. I believe it was the episode that Anne Hathaway hosted with the Killers, which we talked to Seth about this episode, and that was the very first Lawrence Wel show. And then a couple weeks later, on the Weekend Update Thursday, you did the Palin rap. Like, nine months pregnant. Right. And I have never forgotten how Herculean that was of you doing that. Like, that has to feel like a highlight of doing that show.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Like, with carrying your child almost to full term. Like, barking out that song next to.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
This figure in culture. Like, and I'll just. I. That was. It felt like a lightning bolt had hit this. The studio at that moment.
Amy Poehler
Thank you. That was really fun. Really fun.
Bowen Yang
It had to be.
Amy Poehler
And very exciting and just kind of felt. Yeah, it felt like there was a feeling during that whole time. Remember when we thought that was a crazy election, but. But, like, there was a feeling that whole time of just the audience was really paying attention. Everything was. And when you're really pregnant, giant pregnant, you have a ton of power because people are a little worried for you. But you also, you know. And so we had a lot of fun with it. Like, me and Emily Spivey, we wrote a scene about me knocking things over. Yeah. Emily was also pregnant during. The. During that time, too. And there was just this feeling, you know, it's kind of like Chekhov's gun. Like, is she going to give birth? Like, was it the episode.
Bowen Yang
Was it Josh Brolin that hosted where it was just you moving over to him in a bar? It was just Amy pregnant as well.
Matt Rogers
I remember that.
Amy Poehler
Yes. He was really into me. Yeah, he's so sweet.
Bowen Yang
Here comes little lady.
Amy Poehler
That was the Josh episode. That was the Josh Brolin episode. And Sarah Palin just came on Update, and she was a really good sport. And she was like, okay, sure, I'll just dance next to you. And I remember thinking, I wonder if her team has really told her what this is. But that's okay. We are going to do it. We're going to. And I think my pregnancy helped. Like, it was like, how do you. How can you say no to the lady? Right? And it was so. It was thrilling in the moment. It was really fun. It was really fun. And then I gave birth. Like, let's see, maybe like four or five days Later.
Bowen Yang
Yes, I remember it was that on Update, he was like, amy's not here because she's having a baby.
Matt Rogers
And that was the first Jon Hamm episode.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Full circle.
Amy Poehler
That's right. Just at the show in. Ham was the host.
Bowen Yang
I mean, the millionth craziest thing about that episode, which was the Josh Brolin one, is that the musical guest was Adele. Fully Adele. Like pre. Like pre. Like Adele.
Amy Poehler
Oh, like Chasing Pavement.
Bowen Yang
Chasing Pavements, Yes. And then I remember she won Best New Artist a couple months later. And I was like, well, yeah, probably because everyone in the world was watching that episode, and they were like, who the hell is she?
Amy Poehler
She's incredible, right?
Bowen Yang
That was a night of culture.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And you were at that show.
Bowen Yang
I was. I went to all of them. I was. I was addicted. And I. Again, I told you this, but it was the very first time I had ever gotten in. And I was like, there was this feeling, like, I don't know, that I. That it's this that I have to do, but I have to do something like this. And I was, like, very lost. So I went back to my dorm room and sat on my bed and, like, tearfully, because I wanted it so bad, like, Googled you because you were the person I respected the most. And then I saw that you had started UCB and that you were in your improv group at your school. So I was like. In my head, I was like, I'm definitely auditioning for the improv group and the sketch group, which is ultimately what I got in and started doing ucb. And it was because I googled your name that night because of me going to those shows. You.
Amy Poehler
So nice. Thank you for saying that.
Bowen Yang
I mean, you have to know the impact that you have. You've had on it. Generation of people, obviously, because it's true, but also, like, it's. It's just such a very real thing, especially, I think, on gay men. Like, you know what I mean?
Amy Poehler
I really think so.
Bowen Yang
Absolutely.
Matt Rogers
Oh, you must understand this.
Amy Poehler
Well, I thank you for saying that. I sometimes feel like I have more gay women that I get that feedback from, which I appreciate, but not. But. But that's nice of you to say. Gay men.
Matt Rogers
The men, I think, just. I don't know, the men respond to this thing where, like, you are just being like, your. Your full powerful self on tv. And that is something that, like, we kind of have to, like, go about sideways in media sometimes. And we will eat our own sometimes. And so, like, it's. I feel like you do figure very Very largely in that. In that sense.
Amy Poehler
Wow. That means a lot. That's a high compliment. I mean, I feel like for me, the biggest thing that culturally that I get a lot of feedback from, especially from gay men, is mean girls. Oh, absolutely. That feels like. Especially for the Millennials, felt like their version of how to interact with me more, I think, than SNL and Parks. I don't know.
Matt Rogers
But yeah, I was gonna bring up Strands and Fairchild.
Amy Poehler
Oh, for Blades of Glory. You're right.
Bowen Yang
The outfit.
Matt Rogers
The outfit.
Bowen Yang
There are. There are certain press interviews that you guys did for that that I watched a million times.
Amy Poehler
That was really fun. Those were like, when movies. Like, when they were. It was just like, money, money, money, money, Movies, movies, movies.
Matt Rogers
I know.
Amy Poehler
And here's a fun story about that. Will and Arnett and I played brother and sister, but we were actually married in real life. And we. They tested that movie. And the testing, they were like, we hate Strawns and Fairchild.
Bowen Yang
They're the villains.
Matt Rogers
What do you mean? They're the villains?
Amy Poehler
Right? And I remember the info coming back. Like, a lot of people don't really like the. And we were like, well, we're the villains, you know, But. But to. To the director's credit, they. I think they kept a lot of it in. But that was really. But, yeah, we did tons of photo shoots and, yeah, that was really big extras.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
At that point, we had already been, like, used to a Will Ferrell big comedy movie. And John Heater, obviously, huge, like, big moment for him. But I was just so tickled as, like, a comedy person watching SNL every week as someone who was, like, scrolling, like, the writing credits for the Simpsons. Like, we were like, those kids. Like, it was just thrilling to see you and Will in a film like that. And I will always, always remember just you as Marilyn and him as jfk.
Amy Poehler
Like, also. Also, first of all, I was walking in today. I was like, who am I dressed like? And I was like, I'm dressed like Will in Night of the Roxbury.
Matt Rogers
Oh, my God.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I kind of have, like, paying.
Bowen Yang
Homage to our producer, Will.
Amy Poehler
Yes, I have.
Bowen Yang
I have.
Amy Poehler
Yes, I'm paying homage. Funny story about that movie. We had to learn how to ice skate, right? And I knew enough to know I'm not gonna be doing a ton of ice skating in this movie. You know, they had incredible body doubles and face switcheroo technology, and they had really good ice skaters having to do things. And I knew I was like, think if I could just fake it from the waist up, I'll Be fine.
Bowen Yang
You went like this at one point. I was just like. The fact that it was so green screen, I loved it.
Amy Poehler
You were like. But they had an incredible professional, like, ex Olympian, ice dancer, coach, performer, coaching me again. It was a time when movies were like, you're gonna have to. We're gonna. And I was on snl. And so on the weekends and in the mornings, I would have to go to Chelsea Piers.
Matt Rogers
Oh, my God.
Amy Poehler
And ice. And I remember she was this really. I'm sorry, I forget her name. If you're listening, you were awesome. But I would do that thing that I learned early when I wanted someone to not do something where I would just. She would sit, we'd have our coffee in the morning. I knew we only had an hour. The clock would be behind her, and I'd be like, wait, what's going on with you? And she'd go, well, we have to get out on the ice. And I go, I know, I know, I know. We have to. We have to train. I'd be like, but how is your dog her? And I would try to get her to talk, and the clock would just tick away. And I'd be. Cuz I. It was so hard to learn.
Matt Rogers
Bone tired between shows.
Amy Poehler
Bone tired. And also, I. I knew it. I knew I didn't have to know it that well.
Bowen Yang
Exactly. You're like, I. They're gonna. It's gonna be this.
Amy Poehler
It's gonna be waist up. We're gonna be on wires.
Bowen Yang
It's gonna be Marilyn with the parents.
Amy Poehler
And I'm never gonna get it. Yeah. And at one point she said to me, you know, if at any point something's hurting, make sure you tell me to stop. We were, like, practicing.
Bowen Yang
Well.
Amy Poehler
I was like, I will.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I was like, I am not an athlete. Like, I'm not gonna push. I'm not gonna play through the pain.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
No.
Amy Poehler
I am not trying to get a medal here.
Bowen Yang
No, no, no, no.
Amy Poehler
So I can kind of ice skate, but not that well.
Bowen Yang
Did you do sports in high school?
Amy Poehler
I was. I was like. Did a bunch of sports moderately well. Like, good trash talker. Like, out on the field. Played softball, played soccer, like a little basketball. Like. Like. Like the mouth. But it wasn't particularly.
Bowen Yang
Energy is something that I would. I would ascribe to you.
Amy Poehler
Thank you. I was really good at keeping the team up.
Bowen Yang
There you go.
Amy Poehler
And really good at, like, knowing where the play is. Like, a lot of, like, plays a second, you know, like that. But not. Didn't really have the skill. Small. Didn't really have an arm.
Bowen Yang
You talking about softball?
Amy Poehler
Yes. And it's amazing that I'm not gay because every picture of me during that.
Bowen Yang
Time looks kind of gay.
Amy Poehler
The cutest, like, baby lesbian. But we all did back then. We all did in many ways. But, like, not a jock.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, right.
Amy Poehler
And then she was a cheerleader sometimes, too. Just kind of a floater, to use a mean girls term.
Matt Rogers
No, that's great, because I feel like there's something about young people now where they are struggling with finding people just socializing in general. It's a Covid thing. It's like, what you want to tell them is like, oh, is it like an osteoporosis thing? Like, you eat. It's like a calcium thing. You, like. You have to start early and, like, get the. Get the. The whole sportsman thing going.
Bowen Yang
I think to be in. To learn how to collaborate in any way, I think it's important to be. Not to do sports, but to be involved in activities like that.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I just think. I don't know. It was a different time where you could be okay at softball and play in your local softball league for a long time, and. But now you have to be, like, on a traveling team, and it's very intense.
Bowen Yang
Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
And parents are involved. Parents have ruined a lot of things. Like, when parents show up, they kind of ruin things. And my generation, my parents. No one went to anyone's. Occasionally went to a game, but there were no, like, adults taking things over. Everything was a little less stressful. You could try a bunch of things, and it wasn't necessarily your identity.
Matt Rogers
Right. I imagine you have not been dom. Parent in that context with your kids.
Amy Poehler
I feel like I'm trying not to be. I feel like you're not showing up.
Matt Rogers
To the things that. In a way that is, like, kind of. All right, it's.
Amy Poehler
It. Some people, it's their. Their identity. Right, Right. Like, they're living through their kids, I guess, but which I. I mean, you have to be supportive.
Bowen Yang
How old are your kids now?
Amy Poehler
They're 14 and 16.
Bowen Yang
Okay. Those are. Yeah. You got teen boys.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I love teens.
Bowen Yang
You breaking towels in half.
Amy Poehler
I love teens. I'm here to say it.
Bowen Yang
Tell me that I'm gross. Those boys are gross.
Matt Rogers
Stop it.
Amy Poehler
I love.
Bowen Yang
I know what they do.
Amy Poehler
I love teens. I'm here to say the teen years have My favorite year.
Bowen Yang
Are they. Why is it. Is it because they're kind of, like, riding hard for you right now?
Amy Poehler
They're just, like, interesting people. And also their friends are Kind of interesting. And you're like, this is like the black diamond of parenting. This is where it's coming in and you're having big conversations, they're making choices. You're trying to keep them safe. It's people, like, focus on the little. The youngins, like the baby stuff and the youngins. But I don't know, there's something. I think I'm good with teens.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, there's. There's. It's black diamond. It's moguls, moguls, moguls, moguls. Gotta either. Either ride on top or right around. Is this tied to. Because I've always thought of you as this aspirational Tick Tock person. Because I'm like, well, I need to get on TikTok because I feel like there I. There are people out there like Amy Poehl who are like, it's cool, I like it.
Amy Poehler
But I feel like you were on Tick Tock almost first when you were lip syncing, and then you came in, you dominated, and then you, like, left, like.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, but you know what? That wasn't Tick Tock. We were so ahead of the curve. It was Instagram.
Amy Poehler
That was Instagram.
Bowen Yang
We had so many viral things pre.
Matt Rogers
Tick Tock, things that would have taken off on Tick Tock. Now, I know that's. This sounds so cloying and obnoxious, but it's true. Like, Matt and I would, like, start, like, song, like.
Bowen Yang
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Talk songs, Bear people, if you know what we're talking.
Bowen Yang
You know, Four Nights in Orlando, which is an American horror story. Every episode was 15 seconds long in Orlando. We would go. We would be on about a metric ton of edibles and we would shoot.
Matt Rogers
Like, at horror anthologies at Disney World.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God.
Matt Rogers
It's out there.
Bowen Yang
It is out there. If you go deep in the Instagrams, they are there.
Amy Poehler
But what was the horror anthology called.
Matt Rogers
Four Nights in Orlando?
Bowen Yang
And then there was like, it was like Four Nights in Orlando Hotel. Four Nights in Orlando. Gay Ghosts. Four Nights in Orlando. Which war? Which war was our best?
Matt Rogers
Which war was our best?
Bowen Yang
We always say that was the most satisfying one when you watched it all together. And also you could see so many.
Amy Poehler
And you can't find that. You can't put that back out on Tick Tock.
Bowen Yang
No, I tried and it didn't really.
Amy Poehler
And you know, Las Culturistas is huge on Tick Tock. Right.
Bowen Yang
But that's. We do pretty good.
Matt Rogers
That's our lovely social team. I feel like we could put it back on Tick Tock, but There were be that 2014 patina on it where you'd be like, ew, I don't want to watch anything from that time.
Amy Poehler
I feel like more and more. I mean, even starting this podcast is a good example of that. I'm getting a little less worried about whether or not my timing is right. It's okay. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Oh, yeah. No, you can't worry about.
Amy Poehler
I feel like if you want to do it, I feel like you can do whatever you want if you want. If you don't want to do it, certainly don't.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
Do whatever you want, anytime you want.
Matt Rogers
Fun.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. It should only be fun.
Bowen Yang
It is fun. And there was a time when I was even doing like the challenges.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Like, I just looked through it and it was. It's just like me. One time I did a totally earnest tick tock to Taylor Swift's song Paris. It was earnest. It was. It was so. It was. I deleted it. Climb Cringe Mountain. Have you heard about this? It's so major. Once you climb Cringe Mountain and then you get to the other side and you're at Nirvana.
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's where the power lies is post cringe. I mean, you learn that with comedy a lot. You know, you have to just. You can't be embarrassed.
Bowen Yang
Like, do you have the moment in your career that you're like this? I climbed Cringe Mountain at this point.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Cringe Mountain is far behind me.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I don't worry about that at all because basically you survive a ton of embarrassments like Death by a Thousand Cuts. You just realize, I'm okay. It's okay. And then you realize that, like, actually the. The longer in your career, you should be taking more risks and trying new things and you should be like a little nervous and a little excited. And the minute you are afraid about being cool, you're screwed. You're totally screwed.
Bowen Yang
It's so true. And it stops you doing things.
Amy Poehler
It does. And. And everyone is so obsessed with themselves. I would so much rather somebody be a little tenderoni and make a cringy mistake than the opposite. Like when people are really cool, I'm like, oh, honey. Like when they're trying to be very cool, I get so. I get so stressed for that.
Bowen Yang
I know, I know. It seems really easy.
Amy Poehler
It's not easy out there.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
But it's the same way with like hosted snl. Like a host that will come in and will be like, kind of open face sandwich. You'd be like, I'm nervous or whatever. Like, I'm Gonna try. And they give your sketch. They're all. And you're like, I love you forever.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
But when someone is trying to be cool, you're like.
Matt Rogers
I can think of.
Amy Poehler
The people and the coolness. You know, it's so. It's a protective shell. So you kind of feel for them. We've all been there, but it is. It's so fleeting. Like, what is. What is cool?
Matt Rogers
Right?
Bowen Yang
Right. It's not defined, actually. It actually never was.
Amy Poehler
I mean, you guys do kind of define it in the. You do. Amazing guys. You do kind of define it and why. I'm gonna say this. The reason why you define it is because your list is about not being cool.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
But it is the coolest list in the world.
Matt Rogers
It takes the piss out of the list in the first place.
Amy Poehler
And it reminds you that, like, we're all, like. We're all, like, dumb humans. We're dumb.
Bowen Yang
Do you want to know what it was, I think, for me in high school. I don't know about you. Did you guys have friends that made fun of you constantly in high school? Like, I allowed myself to be the butt of the joke a lot. They made fun of me for the way I held a fork. They made fun of me for the way I wore a hat. They made fun of me because I couldn't see colors. Like, I was constantly getting ribbed on by my friends. And I think it made me realize, like, well, I'm not cool and shouldn't try. And then years later, someone. I remember someone said, yeah, you're a cool person. Like, people think that. And I was just like, I don't. I don't think. And don't tell me that, because that will get me in my head. I think the key is just, like, always being surrounded by people who are a little bit like this. Yeah. I just.
Matt Rogers
I do that. I do that all the time, Matt.
Amy Poehler
You know what I mean?
Bowen Yang
You need people to rib you.
Amy Poehler
Well, I think it's a very east coast thing, too.
Bowen Yang
I would agree.
Amy Poehler
It's a very east coast thing. Like, the more I like you, the more I'll tease you.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Amy Poehler
It's like. It is like a safety thing. I mean, with. Within reason. Like, you don't want to be bullied.
Bowen Yang
No, don't hurt my feeling.
Amy Poehler
Manners are for people we don't know.
Bowen Yang
Okay. Yes. You know what? That was actually an unspoken thing, especially with my. My first ever, like, ensemble I ever felt like I was a part of. Was my, like, friend group in high school.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And our thing was we Always took the. Ripped the out of.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. There's nothing more satisfying than when you can tease someone with love.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And they tease you back, and you're like, oh, we're sick. Like, we're. This is intimacy.
Bowen Yang
Is that how you and your friends are? Yes.
Amy Poehler
That was Boston all the way.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bowen Yang
And then through SNL as well.
Amy Poehler
Yes. Like, even hard, like, because when you tease someone the right way, it also means that you see them.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Like, you feel seen.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
Like, the most delightful thing when someone can, like, you know. No, you're, like, talking about someone. You're like, I'm so tired. And someone's like, you are. We couldn't tell. You know, like, you're like. Like, you just feel so, like, delighted.
Bowen Yang
He knows I'm tired all the time.
Matt Rogers
But are you downloading this into. Into the boys at all?
Amy Poehler
I'm trying to, like, I think I'm trying to just kind of. But, you know, here's the thing about teens.
Matt Rogers
They don't be.
Amy Poehler
No downloading, no download. You go from producer to consultant. And that is not my line. That is someone else's line. Someone else said that. But you go from handling your kid's life over, like, and scheduling their play dates and getting their stuff and getting like. And making their lunch. All this stuff that's like, you're in charge. To being like, I know you didn't ask me, but what I would do is you have to just stand back. You can't. You almost can't tell them anything. Just think about it. When your parents would say something at that age, it would just be like, shut up. So you. You. You do the. I don't know. There's a really good technique. I'm super into it. It works for people, too, but where you just repeat back to them what they said to you. So I hate my. I hate my teacher. You hate your teacher? Yeah, because she doesn't listen to us. And she's always, like, giving us assignments. We don't. Like, she's always giving you assignments. You know, like. Yeah, you just don't say. And you don't.
Matt Rogers
And it kind of keeps pulling the thread until it loosens, until it's pulling.
Amy Poehler
The thread and they talk to you and they're not looking for you to fix it, and certainly not to give advice. No barf. Like, you know what you should do, or, you know, teachers are really, like, you know, they're working really hard these days or whatever. They just want to say it to you.
Matt Rogers
Even adults don't want to Be told, agree.
Amy Poehler
I did it for the a year I was trying a thing where I would only give advice to people that asked for it. And no one, you know, you know what's funny? No one ever, ever asking for it.
Bowen Yang
And I still have friends. There are certain friends. And I feel like it's conversations I have to have or it's like, I, I haven't realized it will be really easy to change a dynamic in our friendship if I just tell them I don't need advice. I think, I think I, I have a therapist for that. Like, yeah, I don't need prescription. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like when people give me prescription, it, it's, it's. I'm not good anymore. Maybe at a certain point I was. When I felt like we were all like in our 20s or something, figuring it out. But it's like I do sometimes just need to externalize my feelings because maybe it's because I've realized how well therapy works. Because what you're talking about is therapy technique. All your therapist does is facilitate you speaking to yourself.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Bowen Yang
And then you hear it and you're like, oh, I've heard it out loud.
Matt Rogers
Finally, it's Brene Brown. Walk alongside side. Not like, not like, face the person and say, this is what you should do. It's like, they just want to be told that meme of, hey, I'm not reading all that. I'm so happy for you, or I'm sorry that happened. It's like they just want to be told, great, or I'm so sorry.
Amy Poehler
And the other side of that is I'm really egotistical about my advice. I think I have great advice. So I not only don't want advice that I don't ask for, but I like to offer advice that nobody asked for. And then I get a little butthurt when they don't take it.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
I'm like, you didn't take my advice. Like, that's solid gold advice.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And then my therapist was like, why are you giving advice to people that don't ask for it? That's precious advice that you can't just give out willy nilly. Like, be respectful of your own advice.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And value it.
Amy Poehler
You can value it. You can even say, like, are you open to advice? And if they say yes, you go, you know, if I give it, do you think you'll. This advice means something to me. Would it mean something? It's like a lot.
Matt Rogers
Can we, can we ask you for, like, do you have any, any Advice for us.
Bowen Yang
Give us advice.
Amy Poehler
My God, I have such a little advice for you.
Matt Rogers
No, come on, tell us.
Amy Poehler
Okay, in what. In what area can you ask something specifically about or just life advice?
Matt Rogers
I want, like, all of these things at SNL that I feel like are not compatible in terms of, like, lifestyle things. Of, like, dating and, like, having a dog and, like, all of these things.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Maybe the advice is. The advice is. It's just. Just wait it out until. Until you finish one thing.
Amy Poehler
Also, you're so ahead of the game by realizing it's something that you want.
Matt Rogers
Oh.
Amy Poehler
Like, I think just even knowing what you want, you're ahead of the game.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Amy Poehler
Life is an arrow pointing you to what you want. So by not getting it, you're like, oh, I'm really missing that. I want that. That's interesting. That's. Oh, thank you, snl, for pointing the arrow to what I want. And I think my advice would be try to imagine that it's not binary. It's not like you either have it or you don't. You can't have it there. You can't. Like the can'ts and shouldn'ts and maybe nots. Isn't like, there's, like. Like there's a lot of space in between.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
That not being a place where you could have it and a place where you could have it.
Matt Rogers
I'm receiving that. Thank you.
Bowen Yang
Mine's really specific. I need, like, a moving company.
Matt Rogers
Oh.
Amy Poehler
I have a great one.
Bowen Yang
And I need, like, some people to box some stuff up.
Amy Poehler
Very good. So my advice there would be don't lift a finger.
Bowen Yang
I won't.
Amy Poehler
You have.
Matt Rogers
You have.
Amy Poehler
We have a. You have a. You're doing well. You have enough money, you know? Thank God. Very lucky. Take your privilege and get some money.
Bowen Yang
We ran through my bank account before we started.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, yeah.
Bowen Yang
She knows all my financial stuff. We made sure that.
Amy Poehler
Get somebody to pack everything up for you.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
But do one pass and go through and grab anything, a document, anything that you would sob over if it was lost.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I mean, sob. Not like, I love this chair. I love this ba. Whatever. Like, go through and go. If this got thrown in the ocean by accident, would it ruin my life?
Bowen Yang
Right.
Amy Poehler
Get those things out. Everything else, let them pack it for you.
Bowen Yang
Wow. You know what's crazy is I'm realizing that stuff is less and less and less stuff means less to me. Even, like, sentimental things, which I felt like, oh, shouldn't they mean more to me over time? I think as I get older, I realize Just things are things. It's. It's bizarre. Like, we were doing. Playing this game at Coachella the night before the festival. We were doing, like, the Newlywed Game with each other. And one of the questions was. It was for me to answer. What would he grab if he had to grab one thing. If the house was like, you know, it was an earthquake on fire, whatever is a disaster. And I sat there and couldn't think of one thing. I. And then everyone was like, my dog Bill, my partner David. And I was like, oh, I guess it's just because I don't have any of those, like, real things. I was like. And I wrote down a lot of phone chargers. I just would grab all the chargers because you never can have enough.
Matt Rogers
Right?
Amy Poehler
That's good. You might not be attached to things. That's very healthy.
Bowen Yang
Maybe I'm not. I don't know. I think that is changing about.
Matt Rogers
That's good.
Amy Poehler
That's very good. There's a thing called Swedish death cleaning. I produced a show about it which is all about that. Swedish death cleaning, the gentle art of Swedish death cleaning, which is. The Swedes believe one of the things that you can do for your family is you can clear out your stuff before you die. Like, you know, they want less stuff, right? And why not give your stuff away while you're still vital and alive and tell people why it means something to you so they can get to know you. Because what happens in the States is people die. They leave all this stuff. Then you go through your, like, grandfather's papers, and you're like, he was, you know, he. He played the tuba. Like, I didn't even know or whatever. And so let people know you while you're alive. But it's all about minimizing and getting rid of stuff. And so maybe you're kind of doing that along the way.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, very Swedish.
Matt Rogers
Is your brother still there?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, he lives in Sweden.
Bowen Yang
Oh, I know.
Amy Poehler
So cool.
Matt Rogers
There was a. There was a smart girls thing where he was just playing basketball. And I was like, that seems like a cool dude.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, my brother is the coolest. He's a really funny writer and. And performer. And he moved to Sweden. He met a woman who lived in Sweden. They got married, they had a kid, and now he's been there, God, must be almost 20 years. He's, like a full expat. He lives outside of Stockholm and, like, speaks Swedish. No. It's so cool.
Bowen Yang
I'm really trying to find a husband with another passport.
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah.
Bowen Yang
Like, I. I do think it's Time.
Amy Poehler
It's time.
Bowen Yang
Like, and weirdly enough, like, this is a pattern. I've been going out with a lot of guys that, like, weirdly, are also from another country and are sober.
Amy Poehler
I like that for you.
Matt Rogers
That's really good.
Amy Poehler
I like.
Bowen Yang
I don't even. Not even trying to date, like, sober guys, and I'm not trying to date guys with, like. Like, dual citizenship, but, like, it keeps happening.
Amy Poehler
What, what, what country would you like to. Let's just put it out.
Bowen Yang
I mean, I guess like, Canada or England.
Amy Poehler
Okay, okay.
Matt Rogers
There are people.
Amy Poehler
There are people.
Matt Rogers
There are people out there.
Bowen Yang
Listen, I'm talking specifically to people that live in Toronto and London. I suppose. I just. We were in London and it was so great.
Amy Poehler
Right. But be careful with that London weather. That's all I gotta say.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Amy Poehler
That London weather is like Sweden. It is dark. It is a dark, cold country. So just be aware.
Bowen Yang
I do well with overcast. You know what I mean? Like, it's. I don't really.
Matt Rogers
You're right.
Amy Poehler
You're not a sunboy.
Bowen Yang
I'm definitely a sunboy, but, like, I've had enough of it. It's like, I grew up on Long island and I'm like a child of the. Of the beach in the sun. And so now I'm kind of like, maybe I've had enough, like, for my life.
Amy Poehler
I love a UK guy for you.
Bowen Yang
I think so.
Amy Poehler
With a scarf and everything.
Bowen Yang
I don't know about the scarf.
Amy Poehler
You don't like the scarf?
Matt Rogers
I could do a scarf.
Amy Poehler
I saw, like, a scarf and like an overcoat.
Bowen Yang
Overcoat, certainly. I see when you said scarf, I. When my mind went to ascot, and I do.
Amy Poehler
Oh, no, no, no.
Bowen Yang
Can I say I do see some people out there trying to bring back the ascot, and I'm not ready for that.
Matt Rogers
That's okay. That's.
Amy Poehler
That's like a winter. Like a Jude Law winter look. Like a. Like a. What's the guy's name?
Bowen Yang
I love a winter look.
Amy Poehler
You know the guy that did all the movies, Like a Richard Curtis, like, coming in from the cold.
Bowen Yang
We met at the Oscars.
Matt Rogers
We did meet Richard.
Bowen Yang
Richard Curtis at the Oscars.
Matt Rogers
Oh, that was special.
Amy Poehler
Just a gentleman, like, shaking off the snow on his overcoat.
Bowen Yang
Yes. Oh, that's good. Okay, now I'm, like, upset that it's going to be spring and summer because my favorite time to date is the fall and the winter.
Amy Poehler
Because it's cuffing season.
Bowen Yang
Because it's. Yes, but, like, I never cuff. I. My thing is, like, I just like to be dressed up for a date. And also maybe it's like you're less self conscious of what your body is doing.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Bowen Yang
This is the dysmorphic part.
Amy Poehler
What, what I project upon you that I want for you is a gentleman who's maybe a little sober or whatever. Just like not. He's just like. He's. He's not the main character.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Amy Poehler
He's the one that's like, look at him go. Look at him go.
Bowen Yang
I do think I do need that.
Matt Rogers
Do you subscribe to flower gardener sort of duality in relationships?
Bowen Yang
Say more like one person is the flower they need to be watered and gardened and one person is a gardener and they kind of. That's what they do. It can't be as simple as that. But that is a. It is a dichotomy thing that people sometimes think about.
Amy Poehler
I think that's interesting because I would say for you, you're extroverted person. Right. Probably secretly more introverted than we think you're. But an extroverted person who I think it would be nice for you to have like a British Jude Law looking gentleman I love. Who has the taxi waiting while you work the room.
Matt Rogers
Has the taxi. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Has the taxi waiting. I love someone that wants to leave.
Amy Poehler
He's like, ready to go, love.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, like I. Ready to go.
Amy Poehler
Ready to go, love.
Bowen Yang
Oh, that rocks.
Amy Poehler
Yes. There's actually nothing less sexy than someone who doesn't know when to leave a party.
Bowen Yang
Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
It's a problem when someone can't leave a party because they're just kind of waiting for this thing that's. That hasn't happened yet to happen. Yeah, Absolutely not.
Matt Rogers
Absolutely. And it won't happen.
Amy Poehler
It won't happen. And also, I'm the part like, I'm.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, hello.
Amy Poehler
Like, what are you waiting for?
Bowen Yang
Exactly. I'm the party title.
Amy Poehler
I'm the party.
Matt Rogers
I'm the party.
Bowen Yang
We have to ask the question. So this is the question that we ask all of our guests. This is. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Okay.
Amy Poehler
Well, you know, you are my favorite podcast, so I've thought about this a lot. I love this.
Bowen Yang
True.
Amy Poehler
I love this podcast and I thought about it a lot and, you know, I didn't want to overthink it, but I have to say for me, growing up, there was a woman who I just related to. She just felt very strong. She had a really specific pov. She kind of asked her what she wanted. She always had good jokes. And that woman was Miss Piggy.
Bowen Yang
Oh, you know that she might be coming on Lost, cold.
Matt Rogers
She might be a guest on this very podcast.
Bowen Yang
We are obsessed. She's one of the top icons.
Amy Poehler
She. At a time when women were told to be, you know, seen and not heard, she took up space. She was very body positive.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Yes, she was. Yes. At times a little violent. We would. We'd maybe correct that now. There was some. There was.
Bowen Yang
It was almost always in self defense.
Amy Poehler
I completely agree. She often saved the day. She said what she wanted. She was like one big intrusive thought. And if you suffered from those, like I did as a kid, you were like, I can't believe she said that out loud. She was always funny. She had really good jokes.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, she did.
Amy Poehler
Kermie loved her.
Matt Rogers
She was the only person in him up at Christmas carol who stood up to Scrooge.
Amy Poehler
What?
Bowen Yang
Whenever she goes.
Matt Rogers
It is the best martial arts culture, respectful of eastern culture.
Amy Poehler
Okay. That. If you say so. I don't know.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Amy Poehler
I'm happy. Don't worry.
Bowen Yang
You can enjoy Miss Piggy's hayas. Her hayas done respectfully.
Amy Poehler
And she was. She was such a funny character.
Matt Rogers
Hilarious funny.
Bowen Yang
I mean, she was an outsized diva who demanded that she get her shine. And what was always great was the budget they would blow out for her sets and everything and how disastrously it would go wrong. But yet it's still. She still came out on top.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah.
Bowen Yang
And they never. She was allowed to, like, I guess, like, keep failing. She was a woman in Hollywood that they let keep flopping.
Amy Poehler
Look, it was the 70s, right? It wasn't perfect. So at times, Miss Piggy, like, almost felt like, oh, she's a cautionary tale of someone who's too. But the audience did not feel that from her.
Bowen Yang
No.
Amy Poehler
The Muppet show, when it would come on and the. It's time to get things started and the song would start. As a kid, I was like, this is Hollywood. This felt like this was. You know, I didn't know anyone that was an actor or writer. I'd never seen anyone famous. Something about the Muppet show was like, there is a place where my jokes and what I like is gonna live. And it was get ready for the show. It's like very SNL.
Matt Rogers
Was it your pre SNL? SNL.
Amy Poehler
It was my pre SNL because my generation of SNL, the people. I was like 10 when Eddie Murphy joined SNL and I was 14 when it was Dana Carvey and Jan Hooks and Phil Hartman. So that was. But the Muppet show was the first feeling of there's a show about to be put on.
Bowen Yang
Yes, yes, yes.
Amy Poehler
And Miss Piggy was the star of the Muppet Show.
Bowen Yang
Uh huh. Yes. She was.
Amy Poehler
She was the star. She was the. She. She told everyone what to do. And Kermie couldn't resist.
Bowen Yang
No, I mean, he.
Amy Poehler
He was a little shy and, you know, she kind of probably spoke for him in a way that I think he liked.
Matt Rogers
Well, yes.
Bowen Yang
Thank you for.
Matt Rogers
For putting some shine on Kermit, too. Because Kermie, I think, was also just as valuable of a. A male. A masculinity comp.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Matt Rogers
That as Miss Piggy was a femininity sort of example.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. They flipped. He was kind of a soft boy. Also, though, during that time, we also had people like Alan Alda and Mash. Right. Who was, like, so nice.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Even though he was so sweet. We had some sweetie pies.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Amy Poehler
It wasn't as masculine all the time as people think. Like the seventies. There was some, like, groovy, like, you know, dads or even like Michael Landon, who was, like, tough but, like, loved his daughter and was kind of sweet. But Kermi. Kermit was very in touch with his feminine side.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
It sounds like you have feelings for Kermi.
Amy Poehler
You know why I love Kermit? Kermit was a peacemaker. Yes, Kermit was a peacemaker. And as I get older, I'm drawn to people, men especially, who are looking for peace.
Bowen Yang
Oh. Yeah. All I want to do is feel calm.
Amy Poehler
Me too. I'm. I want to feel calm. I want to feel safe, and I don't. Conflict used to be the way. I'm an Enneagram. Eight. Do you care about your enneagram? That's right. You're seven. That makes sense. What are you, a four? Bowen.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Wait, what?
Amy Poehler
It's so hard. No one understands you. You're very. It's very hard to. No. Fours are like. They're like special romantic. Yeah. Fours are dream maker. Like, that makes artists.
Matt Rogers
Remind me. Eight.
Amy Poehler
Challenger.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
So I used to think conflict was how I. And it was often how I got intimate with people. Like.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And now I want more peace.
Bowen Yang
I see.
Amy Poehler
And sevens are so much fun, you.
Bowen Yang
Know, if we exhaust ourselves.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Sevens require a lot.
Amy Poehler
But they're so fun.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. I mean, I like, it's so funny because I. And then I looked at the results and it was like, whoa. I didn't stand a chance. I was such a.
Matt Rogers
Like, it was.
Bowen Yang
It was. I was thinking, like, oh, I don't know. These answers aren't going to all go together. It was like, you're a seven down the house down.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Bowen Yang
And I mean, I get that it's funny, like, as I get a little bit older, like, I'm also. I don't know if you ascribe to the astrology of it all, but I'm also like a triple water sign, double Pisces cancer moon, which is like that. And a seven is like, oh, he going to take up a lot of space.
Amy Poehler
And also, you're just going to be kind of like, what's the next thing? Like, you're definitely for the adventure.
Bowen Yang
I'm.
Amy Poehler
You're.
Bowen Yang
I'm a consumer. Used to say that about me all the time. That I like, excited.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And sometimes that can get me.
Amy Poehler
That I have a lot of sevens in my life. I love them for those that you don't care about. Enneagrams, whatever. But they're enthusiasts.
Bowen Yang
They're enthusiasts. Yes.
Amy Poehler
They love things and they love having fun. But if seven's always like, you're like, let's go do this thing. And they're like, is it gonna be fun? And you're like, I mean, I guess I. Fun is important. Newness is important.
Bowen Yang
It's interesting to be the kind of person that's, like, seeks excitement and seeks, like, to consume things and have experiences, but then also have, like, an anxiety creep up.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Because it's like, that's when you get. You get. You get in your head with a lot of, like, judgment, judgment, judgment. I just. That's why I want to be calm is because I just want someone who's just going to be like, it's okay. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's. It's. You know what? Like, this experience is going to be what it is, and then it's going to be over, and then we're going to have another one tomorrow.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
But I am sort of waiting, and I do think. Think. I haven't really said this on the podcast yet, but I am fully moving back to New York. Like, I finally bought my first place. Yay. And so, like, I. I think that that will be a place where I can, like, root.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Because I am looking for that. I think I deeply feel like my next step is to just feel like I can sit down and be comfortable in a place. And, like, that would be nice if someone could be a part of that.
Matt Rogers
Like, 10 toes down.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Toes down vibe. But it is. It's interesting that you say all that stuff, because feeling calm is something I never thought I Wanted.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, same. I always thought, like, that my thing was to challenge and buck the system and kind of, like, push and push. And now I'm really. I really feel lucky that I'm surrounded by a lot of people who are not that way, who are, like, more peaceful and peacemakers and kind of, like, a little bit, like, it could be this, it could be that. Like, for the longest time, being definitive and, like, certain and decisive.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Was, like, safety, and now I'm, like, luckily a little bit more, like. I don't know.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
You know, I think it's interesting because one of your, like, I would say, defining comedic and, like, public traits is your energy.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
You know what I mean? Like, so I would imagine. I identify with this, that sometimes when people, like, interact with you, they feel like they also need to bring a lot of energy. And then there you are meeting that, and all of a sudden, you exhausted, girl. And, like, you're like, wait, hold on. Yeah, where was I in that?
Matt Rogers
I was definitely talking.
Bowen Yang
What was I saying?
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah, it's.
Bowen Yang
But it's. You bring what you get, you know, praise for and credit for and, like, notices for, especially at a place I would imagine, coming up through comedy and, like, you know, having to make your way, like, and being one of one in many ways, and then getting to SNL and then having to, like. I know it started really well for you, pretty much, like, you kind of hit the ground running, and then when you were in the main cast, like, kind of right away, Right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Pretty fast.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
So everything was happening really fast, but you probably had to give it well.
Amy Poehler
You know, we were like. It was a different time where there was less women. You had to kind of, you know, for those that are not watching, I'm. I'm swinging my bows. But. But you bring up something that's so true, which is, I feel like. And getting back to, like, your 50s and osteoporosis. But I'm all about practicing my backhand. That's my new phrase, which is my forehand has served me so well. It is. I've made a lot of shots. I feel really confident. I'm very, very grateful for what it's gotten me. And now it's time to practice my backhand. What is the thing that I don't really always give as much attention to or practice to? And it's exactly that. It's not depending on my energy to be the way that people connect with me or, like. Or that, like, sparring or conflict is going to be the way in which I can get something done, but just, like, be a little bit more watery and.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
It's thinking about how you communicate subtextually.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Rather than literally or super textually, where you're just like, I'm going to communicate what I think by saying it. And. Right. Something like this, where it's like, well.
Amy Poehler
This is a very four answer you're giving right now. Because.
Matt Rogers
I'm being such a four.
Amy Poehler
No, because you're right. You're saying, like, you're coming from a feeling place.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And I'm coming from an action place.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Yeah. And that's a challenger thing. That's an.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, that. So the four is like, how can I express my feelings or have these feelings differently? It's like, what can I do differently? And our work is to like. And I'm so sorry if this is boring for anybody. No, Our work is to feel more.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And your work is to be.
Matt Rogers
Do.
Amy Poehler
Do more. Less feelings, more doing. And mine is more. More feelings, less doing.
Matt Rogers
Is Piggy an 8? Is Ms. Piggy an 8?
Amy Poehler
I think she is definitely an 8. I think Ms. Piggy is kind of an island. She is definitely an. An enneagram. That would be fun to do that with all the muck.
Bowen Yang
Well, Fozzie Bear is a seven. I think so.
Amy Poehler
I think Kermit's a nine. He's the peacemaker.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. He has to be to hold the center of that place.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. He's like, hey, guys.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Wait.
Bowen Yang
Maybe Kermit's my man.
Matt Rogers
Kermit's your man.
Bowen Yang
I need to fuck this piggy up when she gets here. I'm going to be like, listen, Although I think they broke up. Didn't they break up to finish?
Matt Rogers
Remember the ABC show? They introduced that new pig girl?
Amy Poehler
I don't know that.
Matt Rogers
Do you remember there's that new pig woman.
Amy Poehler
Oh, no.
Matt Rogers
And she was swooping in and trying to. Trying to pick up Kermit, and the Internet lost their mind. They were like, get the fuck away from him.
Bowen Yang
She needs to get the fuck away.
Matt Rogers
She never stood a chance against Miss Piggy.
Amy Poehler
I gotta watch this. I did not. I did not know that. And do you also remember how public television is so great? Sesame Street. Do you remember when. Sesame Street. When I was growing up, there was a character called Snuffleupagus?
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
I think he's still there. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
But then they took Snuffleupagus away because it was frustrating, kids.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Because why. Why couldn't they see him?
Amy Poehler
And I was like, wait, but who.
Bowen Yang
Said this didn't they say.
Matt Rogers
Someone said that they took him away because some kids, especially in the 80s when child abduction was a thing, they were like, parents would like. It was that, like, they wouldn't believe what kids were saying on the show.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. A kid didn't feel believed.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Matt Rogers
And, like, it was at a time when you needed to trust what children were saying. Like, I saw a strange man at the side of our street. You know, like, there's. There's, like, a lot of implications when it comes to, like, PBS and children's programming.
Bowen Yang
Did you ever get to go down there to Sesame Street, Interact?
Amy Poehler
I got to do something with Elmo, which is really cool.
Bowen Yang
What did you guys do together?
Amy Poehler
We did, like, a Word of the day or something.
Bowen Yang
Awesome.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. And then, you know, and when I like. And I love. Growing up, I loved. We had an Oscar the Grouch Alarm Clock.
Bowen Yang
Oh, I like Oscar the Grouch. He's a great resource.
Amy Poehler
Larry David owes a lot to Oscar.
Matt Rogers
Yes, yes.
Amy Poehler
The alarm clock used to start with, it's gonna be a lousy day. Wake up. It's gotta. And it was such a Gen X alarm clock. Like, you could never do that now. But, yeah, I love him. That whole Jim Henson world, I have to say, eight is permeated most of my life because it, you know, also was in the beginning of snl, but just like, those Muppets and puppets are everywhere in my psyche.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, absolutely.
Bowen Yang
We gotta send up a prayers up. What the heck?
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God. That was Miss Piggy Squeam. Come here.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, that's.
Amy Poehler
That is stressful, though, because. Have you ever been with someone who's working a puppet?
Bowen Yang
No. This is so. We heard that, like, basically what it is, is it's like they can go for, like, 25, 30, 30 minutes at a time, and then they need a short break.
Amy Poehler
It's stressful.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I mean, God bless everyone who works puppets. It's amazing, but it's. It's intense.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Right.
Amy Poehler
Where do you look?
Bowen Yang
Right.
Amy Poehler
I guess you look at the puppet.
Bowen Yang
I'm gonna have no problem looking right into Miss Piggy's eyes. I'm telling you. I'm committing so hard.
Amy Poehler
Okay. You'll be great.
Matt Rogers
I know. I might cry, though, because I. I feel the same sort of cosmic connection to her that. That you're talking about, which is that I'm like, she. She was my first glimpse into old Hollywood until, like. And she's, like, modeled after those actresses.
Amy Poehler
And she's modeled after, like, Peggy Lee, right? Yes. Yeah. And she Was also kind of like, in drag a little bit. She had like, a real vibe of, like, costumes, and. And you always were going into her world, and it was like satin, and she was very, like, she was very feminine.
Bowen Yang
But showgirl.
Amy Poehler
She was a show.
Bowen Yang
She was the last showgirl with Pamela Anderson.
Matt Rogers
I just think she's beautiful.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And pigs have newly been become my favorite animal.
Amy Poehler
Oh, really? And a lot of cultures, Pigs are really, really revered.
Bowen Yang
Revere.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So smart.
Bowen Yang
Are they one of the smart ones? Yes, smart.
Amy Poehler
Very smart.
Bowen Yang
So I'm, like, now I'm, like, in this new kick where I'm finding out about how deep the intelligence of certain animals goes. Like, I went in on elephants the other day, and now I'll never be the same.
Amy Poehler
I know.
Bowen Yang
Did you know that octopuses decorate their homes? Homes.
Amy Poehler
What?
Bowen Yang
So the next time you go to, like, I don't know, someplace on Larchmont and they're serving up a grilled puss.
Amy Poehler
No.
Bowen Yang
Just know that that puss was a decorator. He was.
Matt Rogers
That was decorated.
Bowen Yang
That was the Nate Brookus of the season.
Amy Poehler
That's so many.
Bowen Yang
You might be eating the Nate and Jeremiah of the seas.
Amy Poehler
Those. And then what can put up so much ship lap so fast?
Bowen Yang
Me and my mom has revealed how obsessed she is with Nate and Jeremiah.
Amy Poehler
Incredible.
Bowen Yang
My dad was talking to me about. I was on the phone with them, and my mom was talking. My mom started watching Queer Eye, and she was like. Because Jeremiah joined.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, of course.
Bowen Yang
Jeremiah. And my dad says to me on the phone, your mother is beaming ear to ear harder than I've ever seen her. Talking about Jeremiah Brent right now. She loves him.
Amy Poehler
They also decorate in this beautiful aesthetic that does feel like. How do I put this? Like, no one will ever live there.
Bowen Yang
No, no, no, no. Like, the tiling that they put in. Like, I watched their. Like when someone is just like, yeah, so we ripped out the floors.
Matt Rogers
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Bowen Yang
Like, in all respect. But I'm like, I could never be like, I want to rip out these floors. I want to reupholster. No, I don't know what that word means.
Amy Poehler
It's hard. And also, there is something about. I love interior design.
Bowen Yang
Do you?
Amy Poehler
I love it. It's kind of like a. I want to say a hobby, but I love working with people, making spaces and looking.
Bowen Yang
Making it.
Amy Poehler
I love it. Yes. And I love looking at, like, magazines and looking at stuff online. And I find just, like, what people think is comfortable.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Is so subjective. It's just so subjective. And for me, the eye must rest. My eye must rest.
Bowen Yang
Got it.
Amy Poehler
So there's like. There was like, an organizing show where it was like, what kind of organizer are you? Are you. So let me ask you this.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Amy Poehler
There's four different ways, and I'm gonna butcher this, but do you like a room where there's an open shelf and, like, you know, your plates and. And cups and everything. You can see them floating. No.
Matt Rogers
No way.
Amy Poehler
Sure.
Matt Rogers
Absolutely not.
Amy Poehler
Okay, I'll let you do this one where you're like, floating shelf and cups and. And organized well, but visible.
Matt Rogers
Sure, sure.
Amy Poehler
One where they're behind a cabinet. Organized behind a cabinet. Those are two options. And then also, do you like to have. Let's say you're. You're putting away your important piece of paper. Do you want to have it in a drawer where you throw it in. In a drawer and it's worth all the important papers and you'll organize it later, or do you want to have a place that it lives every time that I see.
Bowen Yang
I mean, here's my thing. I don't like looking at cupboards. I don't like looking at cupboards and shelves. I think I'm sol.
Amy Poehler
Some people like to see their stuff, and some people like to not see their stuff.
Bowen Yang
I think it could be interesting to see my stuff.
Matt Rogers
I am going to be the not see your stuff school, because if one thing is off on the floating shelf and it's out on display, it's going to bug the shit out of me. I'm never going to feel I'm going to have that itch in my brain the entire time I'm looking at it.
Amy Poehler
Yes. And what about countertops, tables? Do they need to be clear or.
Matt Rogers
They pretty much have to be clear. Yeah, yeah. You've been in my place.
Bowen Yang
It's such a strong aesthetic. I mean, he. I keep telling him that he should get AD over to his place because it's so cute and cool.
Amy Poehler
Product line calling Bowen of.
Matt Rogers
Of like housewares. Yeah. What about you? What are you doing?
Amy Poehler
It would love to do that.
Matt Rogers
What? Come on, everybody.
Amy Poehler
There's two. It's too. Well, you know what? I'm gonna take my own advice. It's never too late.
Matt Rogers
It's never too late.
Bowen Yang
Wait. To do what?
Matt Rogers
But what would just have a house.
Amy Poehler
Have, like, a housewares.
Bowen Yang
Okay, wait. Your conversation with Tina about this.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Don't you think should open eyeglasses?
Amy Poehler
I've been trying to get Tina to make money off of eyeglasses for her.
Matt Rogers
Entire life, but she refuses to decide.
Amy Poehler
She doesn't want to do it. Yeah, I understand. I respect it. She only do what you want to do.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
But you could do it too, Bowen.
Matt Rogers
I don't know. I. I'm of the same mind as Tina. I'm like, what?
Bowen Yang
You know. Or no. Or you're like, what is ahead because she said it.
Matt Rogers
No, I just. I've always thought the same thing. Like, there's no practical reason for me to. For me to do that. You know what I mean?
Bowen Yang
I'm so only doing it all.
Amy Poehler
Whatever.
Bowen Yang
Doing whatever.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
A sweatshirt with my face.
Amy Poehler
Put my name on plastic water bottles, whatever. No. Yeah. Only if you. Only if you'd be into the design and into the aesthetic of it. But something aesthetic would be interesting and fun to work on.
Matt Rogers
Perhaps. Perhaps. Watch this space.
Bowen Yang
I can see it for you. I think you're a huge brand.
Amy Poehler
I completely agree.
Bowen Yang
You know what I'm saying?
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Matt Rogers
I don't know, y'all.
Amy Poehler
I completely agree. But at least get AD into that house and get them to walk around and put your bowl of limes. Show them your bowl of my bowl of lime.
Bowen Yang
Wait, who was the bowl of limes?
Matt Rogers
I love limes.
Amy Poehler
I love limes.
Bowen Yang
And I actually do.
Matt Rogers
But, but. But she said, I love limes. And then afterwards she was like, I don't know why I said that.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, no, she. She revealed later. She doesn't know.
Matt Rogers
She does.
Bowen Yang
She was like a joke. Wait, now I'm actually thinking, because they say, like, just think of some images that you like and, like things that you'd want to see around your house. I actually would love limes. I like limes.
Amy Poehler
Limes are so good. Or how about this? A bowl of artichokes.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I like artichokes.
Amy Poehler
If you put artichokes in a bowl, you're a billionaire.
Bowen Yang
Really?
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Bowen Yang
I guess that is what that means.
Amy Poehler
If you put three artichokes in a silver bowl, you're. You're done.
Bowen Yang
I've always wanted to have bananas on the table.
Amy Poehler
People, of course you can do.
Matt Rogers
Nothing's stopping you.
Amy Poehler
I can do that.
Matt Rogers
You can do that today.
Bowen Yang
I don't think you. I don't think you understand what my living situation has been like. It's only now that I'm like, very seven.
Amy Poehler
Okay. We. Right. We need to root it.
Bowen Yang
My life has been so seven. It's been so, like, LA, NY. LA, NY. Like, where can I go next? Coachella again this weekend?
Amy Poehler
Living out of a suitcase.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, Very that. And I can't I can't. I can't. I can't. The seven has to.
Matt Rogers
The seven has to go to a nine Peacemaker.
Amy Poehler
Your space has to be. Your space is important.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, it is. It is. It is. It is.
Amy Poehler
It is.
Matt Rogers
What is your most interior designy motif?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I love. Well, I love. Right now my house is a California ranch. So I do like that kind of a tiny bit of Quaker. There's a tiny bit of Quaker craft. Like, I like a wood. Like, I like a wood bench with, like, a patterned cushion.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I like, like, a nice patterned rug with, like, a black sofa. I like a warm tone chairs that match a warm tone table with, like, a. An amber light fixture. I like. I like a bit more masculine coming.
Matt Rogers
At you so naturally. And it's very masculine.
Bowen Yang
I literally, what I said to the guy who's doing my apartment is I was like, I want it to be, like, masculine but light. You know what I mean?
Amy Poehler
Masculine can sometimes be, like, too much like steel.
Matt Rogers
That's what I'm saying.
Bowen Yang
Not that you know the word I said. Redford.
Amy Poehler
Oh.
Bowen Yang
Like, it's kind of just. It's giving, like, like, not denim, but like, like, like. Yeah, warm, masculine. Like wood.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Bowen Yang
But with, like, little light blue, denimy touches. Like, because they say look in your closet, and that's like, a hint as to what you might want to like.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Look like.
Amy Poehler
And I'm leaning lately less mid century and more like a little bit, like, worn and waspy. I'm trying to do more antique and flea pieces.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Than new pieces.
Matt Rogers
But your. Your masculine is callback Alan Alda.
Amy Poehler
My masculine is Alan Ruby, 70s, sweet, loves his wife.
Bowen Yang
Because mid century is kind of done. Don't you feel like everyone was doing mid century?
Matt Rogers
Sure.
Amy Poehler
Once, like, Dwell came out, like, and everything was very, like, weird table and like. Yeah. Everything got a little too mid century. And it's very la. Mid century.
Bowen Yang
Well, the first time. The first apartment I ever got, I walked into West Elm, and the first thing I said was, does it look like I don't belong here? Because I thought, like, it was for fancy people. And they said, no, what are you talking about? We'll help you. And so I. Because I'm colorblind and have no taste, I was like, I guess I like this. And I just pointed to a display, and they were like, you, like, just this? And I was like, yeah, I think I like this for my living room. They're like, you don't want to change anything. I go, oh, yeah, the rug. Which rug would you like that one. And that's what happened.
Amy Poehler
Great.
Bowen Yang
But. But.
Matt Rogers
But they're not supposed to make you feel that way.
Bowen Yang
No, they didn't. They were so beautiful and lovely.
Amy Poehler
I think you're telling an old story about yourself. I think you do have a sense of style.
Bowen Yang
I'm colorblind.
Amy Poehler
I know. A lot of men are.
Bowen Yang
A lot of men are like, that's. That's.
Matt Rogers
Sorry, what do you mean?
Bowen Yang
That doesn't.
Matt Rogers
I was gonna say that doesn't. I don't think that correlates to taste or style.
Bowen Yang
I'm very malleable in my settings. Like. Like, I live. I'm subletting something in New York right now, and the guy has, like, a crazy pink gallery wall with all sorts of different colorful pictures on it. And I've just been like, yeah, I live here and I like it. And I have no idea whether or.
Matt Rogers
Not I do or that's a sublet reality.
Bowen Yang
I'm.
Matt Rogers
I'm. I'm the one that's asking him, like, what are the spaces you like? Where do you feel comfortable? And I'm literally like, you should think of your. Your favorite restaurant at Disney World.
Bowen Yang
I love being everywhere. I love being in a sushi place. I love being in that Mexican spot in Epcot.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, but do you like. Like. I like to things to feel nice.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I love texture. So I have these two chairs in my living room that are upholstered with, like, that really fuzzy, like.
Bowen Yang
Yes, the fuzzy stuff.
Amy Poehler
Fuzzy stuff.
Bowen Yang
He's got that.
Amy Poehler
And why I like is when I walk by them, I, like, always touch.
Bowen Yang
You pet them, but they're a nightmare to clean.
Amy Poehler
Oh, but, you know, that's okay. This is. You're not going to be worried about cleaning.
Bowen Yang
I'm covered in buffalo sauce most of the time. I didn't tell you.
Matt Rogers
Eat it on the thing.
Bowen Yang
We ran through my financials. I Forgot about, like, 98% of it is buffalo sauce. I have so much buffalo sauce on all my shit.
Amy Poehler
You know what you should do? Just do one room. Just do one room. Like, what would be your version of the nice. Of a nice room?
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Yeah, that's great.
Amy Poehler
Just one room.
Bowen Yang
See, what I love is, like, also, like, I love when I go to someone's house, like a. The suburbs. And the. The living room is like the beach, and the bathroom is the ocean. And that's just what it is. It's like almost every suburban house is like, my bathroom is the bottom of the sea, you know, and there's seashells.
Amy Poehler
Well, I always Say people's houses. People either want to tell you where they've been or where they are. Oh, one or the other.
Bowen Yang
They never tell you where they're going, so.
Amy Poehler
Exactly. So it's like, where have I been? I like, have African masks and I have, you know, saris and I have like all this stuff that I've collected. Or we are in Denver, baby. And you're gonna know it. You're gonna know that we are in Colorado. Like, it's one or the other.
Matt Rogers
Yep. Well, I think Matt has a lot to work with in terms of where he's been and where he agrees.
Bowen Yang
One thing I don't want to do. A lot of gay guys, like, in their first apartments, they have a big gay picture.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Like if someone's tricep or like someone laying on the beach and it's just like this part of someone's body, I think I can. I Big gay picture.
Amy Poehler
And never sleep on a plant and a mirror.
Bowen Yang
See, plants have been something I never interacted with. And I love a mirror.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Oh, God.
Amy Poehler
A mirror in a plant.
Matt Rogers
Mirror, plant can change your life.
Bowen Yang
A mirror in a plant and creates a large space.
Amy Poehler
There's like AI now that you can put your room in and it'll tell you all this stuff. It's incredible.
Bowen Yang
Damn. AI.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, we're going to fix that with the know that.
Amy Poehler
Have you already spoken about it on the pod?
Bowen Yang
No, we haven't. So we've heard you guys say that our new profile image for lost culturistas. I am out of focus. I. I do see it. I do think it is a striking picture. It's one of my favorite photos that Bowen and I have taken. And I'm hesitant to change it because Bowen looks so insanely good.
Matt Rogers
You can't.
Bowen Yang
But I think I look good. It's just that I'm out of focus.
Matt Rogers
I think it's. She.
Amy Poehler
This is a really interesting experiment about how we see ourselves and how do we want people to see us.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yes. But I think it's also a statement on depth. You are getting depth because this side of your face is not. It is in focus and then this side isn't.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, my right eye is in focus.
Amy Poehler
But, you know, don't you deserve to be in focus?
Bowen Yang
I think I do.
Amy Poehler
Don't you?
Matt Rogers
Absolutely.
Amy Poehler
Doesn't one deserve to be in focus?
Matt Rogers
I'm bringing my fore energy into this. I'm like being academic about a lot of things.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. And also you're is an incredible picture of you.
Bowen Yang
It is such a good Picture.
Matt Rogers
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
And it's a great picture of you, too. But I mean, I would try to get in focus. You had said, maybe AI can get you in focus. And you were saying, I don't know.
Bowen Yang
If I want that because I don't want to necessarily sleep support AI.
Matt Rogers
Right, right.
Bowen Yang
But then again, at this point, it's like you have to just. We have to just kind of like succumb, throw our hands out. It's too late.
Amy Poehler
This is all AI, Everything, all made of AI. Everything is our.
Bowen Yang
I've been AI for nine years.
Matt Rogers
This is going to be. Hi, human. We are about to go into. I don't think so, honey.
Bowen Yang
This is the human intelligence part of the podcast. So this is. I don't think it's funny. This is, in fact, our 60 second segment where we sort of tear up culture. And, you know, I've realized something. I was on the drive home with, with Patrick Rogers, come back from Coachella, and a motorcyclist went by us really fast. And Patrick said his mom's nurse and said, you know, my mom saw the gnarliest things from motorcyclists. Motorcyclists. And that was her one rule. You're never getting on a motorcycle. Because I have what I've seen in the ER and one other thing. And this is what?
Matt Rogers
Oh, this is all the preamble I thought you were gonna do.
Bowen Yang
So that was all. That was just the preamble.
Amy Poehler
My God. Exciting.
Matt Rogers
This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Bowen Yang
I don't think so, honey. Trampolines, you don't need it. Like, honestly, your kids don't need to be up that high.
Matt Rogers
You're right.
Bowen Yang
What I would say is get like, I don't know, like, get like a room, like a matted room. You know what I mean? Like, if you have a trampoline, you can afford a trampoline. You probably have like a playroom or a designated area where the kids go pad it like a cell, have the kids toss themselves all around the room. That is better than trampolines. And also, let me tell you something about people, people who have trampolines. You're also good old days people. Like, oh, in the good old days, we could just. Who cared about the nest on the trampoline? I could ride my bike to Connecticut. You know what? I don't care. The good old days stuff is problematic, like, protect your children. Don't even get me started on zip line. You'll have some people with zip lines, like, from one tree to the other in their own backyard. My dad made one for us, and we had a trampoline. And I'm looking back thinking, I'm glad I have my neck. I don't think so, honey. These. When I want to say what my dad said to me to you. When I was little, I used to play with a. A stick. Take the screens out. If the trampoline's out there, just give the kid a stick. Have them run around in the yard or in a padded cell. And also, enough with the video games because your brains are melting.
Matt Rogers
And that's one.
Bowen Yang
Oh, is that it?
Matt Rogers
Okay, well, it's a minute and 15.
Bowen Yang
Well, wow.
Matt Rogers
I let my sister go. It's okay.
Bowen Yang
I feel like the trampoline culture.
Amy Poehler
You lost the teens at the end with the video.
Bowen Yang
But, like, I think I lost the teens so long ago.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, it's okay.
Matt Rogers
It's okay.
Amy Poehler
It's all right.
Matt Rogers
The teens are all about the. The slang has been video games with Gen Alpha and Gen Z, like, side quest and NPCs. It's like, this is permeating the culture with them in a way that I'm. I'm like, y'all bet we. We. We all should develop a video game vocabulary on the basics.
Amy Poehler
And I agree with you about trampolines.
Bowen Yang
None of my childhood memories include jumping on them.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Bowen Yang
None of my good childhood memories. You know what I mean? I'm not.
Amy Poehler
Broken bones. You know where you're going to end up? The pit.
Matt Rogers
The pit.
Bowen Yang
And you're gonna end up in the place to be.
Matt Rogers
And the wait time is long.
Bowen Yang
Is that part of the show?
Matt Rogers
Long wait times. There's a bed shortage. Oh, it's a. It's a mess.
Bowen Yang
Dear God.
Matt Rogers
It's a mess. It's stressful, but it's real time. No scoring. Grounded acting.
Bowen Yang
I couldn't believe it this morning. Like, when Patrick was like, yeah. My mom said it's insane what you watch happens to the human body on motorcycles. And then he was like. And trampolines. And I was like, don't even. Don't even. To keep going. I can't. If you're gonna run a motorcycle breaks on kids.
Matt Rogers
Right? If you're gonna ride a motorcycle and I. This sounds a little insensitive. At least go on the donor list. Well, yeah, at least make it. I'm on the donor list for society. So am I.
Amy Poehler
Of course.
Matt Rogers
Of course. Come on. Cut me open.
Bowen Yang
Get on the. Cut me open and take this stuff. Some of this stuff is good in here.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Some of this stuff's still good.
Amy Poehler
These eyes.
Bowen Yang
Oh, honey.
Amy Poehler
Someone should have.
Bowen Yang
I was noticing them. Are you. Are we giving Gray Blue?
Amy Poehler
Well, you know what? I think we are. We're giving.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Wonderful.
Matt Rogers
Wonderful.
Bowen Yang
All right. Well, that was mine.
Amy Poehler
That was incredible.
Bowen Yang
Oh, wow.
Amy Poehler
This is hard to do this third. I just have to say, because you guys are so good at this.
Matt Rogers
No, we're setting you up for success.
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I want you to chime in on mine after I'm done or during. Please, please.
Amy Poehler
Okay, okay, okay.
Bowen Yang
Okay. So this is.
Amy Poehler
Have you ever done someone's. Then they. If you've done what they were gonna do.
Matt Rogers
No, never.
Amy Poehler
I was sweating.
Matt Rogers
Oh.
Amy Poehler
Because I have a little bit of crossover. A tiny bit.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Bowen Yang
Oh, really?
Matt Rogers
That's good.
Amy Poehler
Nothing bad. Nothing bad.
Matt Rogers
Thematically tight.
Bowen Yang
Okay, here is Bowen Yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Matt Rogers
I don't think so, honey. Standards and practices. We should be able to say at least five shits and five on SNL per season.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Matt Rogers
Because after this whole ego wodem, Ms. Eggy. Because these men ain't. What moment? First of all, favorite moment to televised. Absolutely ever.
Amy Poehler
Incredible.
Matt Rogers
Second of all, we are so hampered in. In our comedy at SNL by not being able to say shit and fuck. Celeste and I talk about this all the time. Let us say shit and fuck like, it's us, it's Abbott, it's ghosts. We're the. We're the last network comedies.
Bowen Yang
It's like, we.
Matt Rogers
Can you give SNL an exception, an exemption? Like, if we're dismantling the FCC because of Trump, like, can we at least. Can one boon. Can one. Can one silver lining be that we get to say shit and fuck? And I'm even keeping it to an allotment to an allotted five and five. Five shits. Five bucks. It would make. It would bring a sketch to the next level. It would. It would. It would make it so that you would be able to, like, know, oh, this is the real world. It's not a heightened sketch. Reality. Shit and fuck are so comedically powerful as words. I really think it would help us.
Bowen Yang
And that's one minute.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Bowen Yang
So were they intense about that? Like, did they come down?
Matt Rogers
I don't think anything came down, which I love. And ego was like, no.
Amy Poehler
That was hilarious.
Matt Rogers
So funny. I mean, don't you agree? Wouldn't have it been this much more fun?
Amy Poehler
And I'm gonna say, NBC, I think you can monetize this.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Why don't you have a competition and people can vote like, American Idol. As to which cast member gets to say the shit.
Matt Rogers
Oh, my God.
Bowen Yang
So you can be like, if you.
Amy Poehler
Want Bowen to say it, you know, text 0032 on your phone and let Bowen say it.
Bowen Yang
Thank you.
Matt Rogers
Or if you want to monetize it in a way that is like, I don't know, like, GoFundMe coded. Like, just have a fundraiser for our FCC fines and just help us cover our fines for the five shits. And the five that we get to say 100.
Bowen Yang
You know who should get to say it? Like, whenever he decides to stop. Keenan on his last episode, the whole 90 minutes should just be him saying whatever the.
Amy Poehler
Well, you could treat it like vacation days. You don't use it, and it rolls over to the next year, and then you get to say 10 of them.
Bowen Yang
Yes, exactly. Casual Saturday.
Matt Rogers
Wrap him up.
Bowen Yang
I really like that. I never understood. And I actually. I don't understand because you can say. You can say dick on the show.
Amy Poehler
May I offer one small counterpoint?
Matt Rogers
Yes, please.
Amy Poehler
I do think there's something fun about not being able to say it.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Amy Poehler
That causes comedic tension.
Matt Rogers
Of course.
Amy Poehler
Fun. So you. It may. The air may be let out of that balloon when you do, and you might not get the juice that you wanted to squeeze. You want it because you can't have it.
Bowen Yang
I also, like, shit's not even really a curse word anymore. Come on. Like, over time, it's like, who is actually bothered if their kid says.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Bowen Yang
Who is actually bothered?
Matt Rogers
Right.
Bowen Yang
I understand. Is one thing. It's like. It's. It's. It's a. I guess, still a little taboo, but like an ass. Well, it's.
Matt Rogers
You can say ass. You can't say asshole. Yeah, you can say taint, but you can't know. You can. You can say taint because it's a part of the body.
Amy Poehler
Oh, you can?
Matt Rogers
Yeah. We've. We've had. We've had standards notes on this.
Bowen Yang
You can say.
Matt Rogers
You can say taint, but you can't say, like, taint hole, gooch, or whatever. You know what I mean? Because it's like. It's not anatomically precise unless the musical guest is named.
Amy Poehler
And then you can say, ladies and gentlemen, once again, gooch.
Matt Rogers
That would be. That would be a hack. Anyway, that's. That's my. That's my thought.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God. That's a good one.
Bowen Yang
This is a moment in time. Listen.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Is that okay?
Bowen Yang
Yes, of course it's okay. The great.
Amy Poehler
Let me see, Let me see. Okay.
Bowen Yang
Your notes.
Amy Poehler
All right. I'M ready. I'm ready.
Bowen Yang
So this is Amy Poehler's. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.
Amy Poehler
Okay? I don't think so, honey. Horror movies. Okay, okay. Life is scary enough. I do not need to unlock a new fear. I have a very active amygdala. I have a decent amount of empathy. I do not want to watch a young couple have to eat their own eyeballs to get out of a locked room. Okay. And don't tell me that it's about the rush of being in the same room with people and feeling social, because if you want to get that kind of, like, social bonding, you need to go to church.
Bowen Yang
30 seconds.
Amy Poehler
Not a horror movie. And by the way, church is another thing that I don't go to anymore as an adult because I've realized it's not for me. There's three things that shorten your life. Motorcycles agree with you. Smoking and violence. Silent images. And then lastly, this is. This also means pranks. No pranks. A jump scare. And a prank is a hate crime.
Bowen Yang
Five seconds.
Amy Poehler
If you prank me, that means you hate me. The only devil that I want to see on the screen is the one that wears Prada.
Bowen Yang
Thank you. And that's one minute and silent. I am with you every word. So hard. I went to go see the movie. Drop.
Amy Poehler
No, no, never.
Bowen Yang
But can I say I advocate for this movie because it wasn't. And this is an all positivity. It wasn't that scary. It was a thrilling scene, suspenseful, not violent movie.
Matt Rogers
You're talking about violent images.
Bowen Yang
No.
Amy Poehler
Yes. I'm telling you, I don't like any kind of scare. No scare.
Bowen Yang
When people die in a movie, it's sad.
Amy Poehler
The world is too scary. The. The news is rough. I cannot hand. My. My nervous system cannot handle it. And I could never handle it. And I just want to say this. I did participate in pranks at one point in my life. The patriarchy comes for all of us. Yeah, we all. But I apologize. And I have listened and learned. And no more pranks for me.
Bowen Yang
Honestly. We don't do. We don't prank.
Matt Rogers
We don't know.
Bowen Yang
Have we ever pranked each other?
Matt Rogers
No. And I want to say I would.
Bowen Yang
Never do that to you.
Matt Rogers
This is a real call out. There were some Instagram accounts. Diet Prada did a whole April Fool's thing of like, this is the casting of the Britney Spears biopic. Ariana Grande, Troye Savant. And people thought it was real. I'm like, April Fools. Let's just.
Amy Poehler
No more April, no more. Right now. We can't afford. No, no, no, we can't.
Bowen Yang
Because people really don't know anymore what's real and what's fake. And so to have a whole day of, like, fake as.
Matt Rogers
No, no.
Amy Poehler
But, like, when you look at the movies, it's like, you. What do you want to see? The Gorge or Baby in the Basket?
Bowen Yang
It's like there's.
Amy Poehler
It's like, am I like. Is this a punishment?
Bowen Yang
Well, yes. I mean, it's literally punishment. I. I think it's. Well, there's a whole community of people whose whole thing is like, I'm going to go watch these movies where, like, with the final girl of it all.
Amy Poehler
I know.
Bowen Yang
That means at least six or seven young women are dead.
Amy Poehler
No, no.
Bowen Yang
I hate when people die. You ever seen the movie Zodiac?
Amy Poehler
I did see.
Bowen Yang
Tough for me because there's that one horrible scene.
Amy Poehler
I know.
Bowen Yang
Where he comes and murders the couple in broad daylight.
Amy Poehler
I know.
Bowen Yang
Are you kidding me?
Amy Poehler
And it's also real.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. It happened.
Amy Poehler
It happened. God, why do we have to make everything a movie about everything that happens?
Bowen Yang
True crime is so nasty.
Amy Poehler
Why do we have to make. If it was bad and it happened. Let's not make a movie about it.
Matt Rogers
We can read about it.
Amy Poehler
We can read about it. We can listen to podcasts about it.
Bowen Yang
See, but the podcasts are even worse sometimes because then it's like it's all happening in your head.
Matt Rogers
You fill in the gaps, but the images. Is this how you feel about true crime?
Amy Poehler
Okay, so I had a moment, a true crime moment, you know, because I'm a white lady of a certain age, so I did have a true crime moment, but I can't watch anything.
Matt Rogers
I see.
Amy Poehler
I can read. Read or listen, but I can't watch anything.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Amy Poehler
That's about true crime. Like, any of those date. Any. Any. Yeah, Even softy stuff, like softball stuff. Like, I cannot watch it.
Matt Rogers
The softy stuff count as. Does like, cult stuff count as softy stuff.
Amy Poehler
Cult.
Matt Rogers
A cult documentary.
Amy Poehler
Well, that one isn't as bad. But I don't understand people that join cults. Right. I can't relate.
Bowen Yang
Even as an enneagram7.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. I was gonna say you have a high cult sensibility.
Bowen Yang
I'm probably the closest.
Amy Poehler
I mean, I did like the one where the love has won. Yeah. Because mother is resting is when she asked for the chicken parmesan.
Matt Rogers
I was just gonna say.
Bowen Yang
And this is what.
Matt Rogers
This is my. He hasn't watched it. But I'm like. My selling point to him is like, there's this whole segment in an episode where they go through her recipes, like, Galactic Taco Salad.
Amy Poehler
I asked for the chicken parmesan.
Matt Rogers
She's screaming at these people, like, where's my chicken pie? Like, it's amazing. The.
Amy Poehler
The term mother is resting is incredible. I just didn't like talking in Wing Dings, right? And everyone is sitting by her bed, and it's like, I don't get it. I don't get it. It's tough.
Bowen Yang
I just didn't want to see. I, I. When I heard she was actually dead and blue in the first scene, I.
Amy Poehler
Was like, that was really hard for me.
Bowen Yang
Wrap my head around watching.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, cults are tough. But when a woman's in charge, it's a little bit more fun.
Matt Rogers
That is why it's fun.
Bowen Yang
I even get scared of, like, urban legends and conspiracy theories.
Amy Poehler
Also, like, when I was a kid, no spooky stories. I didn't be, like, being scared. I didn't like. I do not like that feeling.
Bowen Yang
Oh, there was show. Are you afraid of the dark? This was on Nickelodeon when I was a kid. And there was one episode with Tia and Tamara, who I loved. The storyline was, one of them gets, like, cursed and turns into a lizard. And then the lizard becomes the other one. So, like, so it was this crazy situation where was it scary? One of them was a lizard, and one of them was a real girl. And they were played by Tia and Tamara. Tia was, like, real, and Tamara was like the lizard who had become a human. And their best friend, who they shared was like, had to spray one of them with a hose. And the one they sprayed would turn into a lizard. And the girls were like, it's me, Tiffany. It's me.
Matt Rogers
You know it's me.
Bowen Yang
And she was like, tiffany, don't you remember the times we would have at recess? You do. And then she was like. And it became a thing where she sprayed the one. There's a huge hug. The last scene of it is, we'll say it's Tia has picked up the other lizard and goes like, literally. She didn't say this. It was Nickelodeon, but she was basically like, bye, bitch, and threw her down a well, crushed her. And that was the real one.
Amy Poehler
Terrifying.
Bowen Yang
And that was children's entertainment.
Matt Rogers
Entertainment that aired after Sesame street.
Bowen Yang
That literally, they expected me as a child of the 90s, to hold both these things that, like, Miss Piggy is queen. And also, like, Tia and Samira at each other's throats. One of them would see the other one dead, crushed at the bottom of a well, and I. That was entered. That was like, children's entertainment.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God.
Bowen Yang
Well, that and the Goosebumps. Book off.
Amy Poehler
Off. No, off.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. R.L. stein, he was around UCB for a while.
Matt Rogers
You know that he came to a lot of baskets.
Bowen Yang
He came to. He was like. He was. I remember one time I was going.
Amy Poehler
In maybe to do mod Goosebumps when he came in.
Bowen Yang
Well, I think it was. I think it was like he had been part of, like, a spank or something. Or like, Something was the name of.
Amy Poehler
A show, which is.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
We were coming in to do Mod Night, and they were like, everybody calm down. Minus here. Yeah. This is where it gets inside base.
Matt Rogers
We had a spank. We had a fun spank.
Amy Poehler
We did.
Bowen Yang
We gotta run.
Matt Rogers
We gotta run out of it.
Amy Poehler
Oh, you did.
Bowen Yang
BO gave us a run through left. Amazing. Earth.
Amy Poehler
Nice.
Bowen Yang
Maybe it's on YouTube.
Matt Rogers
Maybe it's on YouTube. Well, damn.
Amy Poehler
I mean, this is so fun.
Bowen Yang
It was a good hang.
Amy Poehler
It was a good hang.
Bowen Yang
Congrats on having the most successful podcast in the landscape.
Amy Poehler
Thank you. I hope someday you'll want to do it.
Bowen Yang
We will want to do it.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Amy Poehler
Come on. It would be my absolute joy if I could kill you.
Bowen Yang
Killing it. And I mean truly.
Amy Poehler
Any advice? You know, we talked about advice before we leave. Any advice for me?
Matt Rogers
Don't change a thing about it.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Matt Rogers
The reason we've done this for so long is because it's basically formally the same thing as episode one. Don't add too many bells and whistles. I was going to say what you've innovated on in the podcast is starting out with that panel discussion with the people who know your guests. I'm like, that's so damn smart. And just keep it exactly the same. Don't change your thing.
Amy Poehler
Don't overthink it. That's the.
Bowen Yang
Don't overthink it. And also don't. Like, over time, we accumulated more people because we started as, like, you know.
Matt Rogers
Doing our own comedy thing.
Bowen Yang
You started. And immediately it was like the. The. The. Like, everyone came and, like, you know, started listening. But over time, people started to have, like, notes for it. And that's when you're like, oh, that's because everyone's gonna want something different from it. So I would just say, like, keep it fun for you, and, like, everyone's gonna want something different for it. Like, I like it when it's people from snl. Or, like, I want, like, when it's this. Or I like, when it's like, anecdotes or this, like, just keep having fun.
Amy Poehler
Stay true to yourself. Yeah, just listen.
Bowen Yang
The most boring advice.
Amy Poehler
No, but it's true. Listen to your instinct. What is your space? Redford.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, Redford. Redford, Redford.
Amy Poehler
Alan aldo and Alan Aldo. 70s queen.
Matt Rogers
70S queens. Well, we end every episode with a song.
Bowen Yang
Oh, what is the song? It comes.
Matt Rogers
It's coming. Hold on. Hello? Hello?
Bowen Yang
Baby, you caught. I can't hear a thing.
Matt Rogers
I ain't got no service in the club.
Bowen Yang
You say. You say. What? What? What did you say? Oh, you're breaking up on me.
Matt Rogers
Sorry, I cannot hear you.
Bowen Yang
I'm kind of busy. Kind of busy. Maybe Beyonce will come out this weekend when we're there. We are in the pause. Honestly.
Matt Rogers
Las Colturistas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.
Bowen Yang
Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hasnier.
Matt Rogers
And produced by Becca Ramos, edited and mixed by Doug Behm and Monique Laborg.
Bowen Yang
And our music is by Henry Komirsky.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang – Episode: “I’m The Party” (w/ Amy Poehler)
Release Date: April 23, 2025
Produced by Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts
In the vibrant episode titled “I’m The Party,” hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang welcome the incomparable Amy Poehler to Las Culturistas. The trio dives headfirst into a dynamic exploration of pop culture, personal anecdotes, and the intricate tapestry of modern life, all infused with their signature humor and insightful commentary.
The conversation kicks off with the excitement surrounding Coachella. Bowen Yang shares his anticipation for his first festival experience, humorously noting, "Bowen's first Coachella. Cool it down." (01:12). Matt reminisces about past Coachella weekends, contrasting them with upcoming colder temperatures, highlighting the evolving nature of such cultural events.
The hosts segue into unexpected moments, recounting an earthquake experience in Palm Springs. Matt narrates the chaotic scene at the Tropicana, humorously detailing Amy’s reaction: "Mitra Johari is shaking her ass in this booth. What is going on?" (02:00). This anecdote serves as a gateway to discuss the unpredictability of life and live performances.
Bowen expresses his fascination with pop icon Kylie Minogue, stating, "She's everywhere else." (02:10), and muses about the potential of having her as a guest on their podcast. The enthusiasm extends to other pop figures like Lady Gaga and Charlie, emphasizing the duo’s commitment to featuring influential cultural personalities in future episodes.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on sobriety and personal development. Amy Poehler shares her journey towards reducing alcohol consumption, reflecting, "Being conscious, like, actually just being in the moment is like, oh, it's like a high is a win." (12:32). Bowen echoes similar sentiments, contemplating mid-30s sobriety and its impact on personal identity and relationships.
The hosts delve into osteoporosis, highlighting the importance of bone density and preventive measures. Amy details her proactive approach, including weightlifting and calcium intake, humorously stating, "I have to do leg presses." (18:13). The conversation underscores the cultural shift towards health consciousness and the unique challenges faced by women in their 30s and 40s.
Transitioning to lighter topics, Amy and Bowen discuss interior design preferences. Amy describes her California ranch-style home, emphasizing warm tones and subtle masculine elements, while Bowen shares his colorblind yet adaptable approach to decorating. Notable moments include Amy’s love for fuzzy textures and Bowen’s appreciation for a well-organized, visually appealing space:
Amy Poehler opens up about parenting teenage boys, advocating for a balanced approach that fosters independence while providing support. She offers practical advice on communicating with teens without overstepping, emphasizing active listening:
The trio reflects on the evolution of social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram. Bowen reminisces about early viral content, while Amy discusses the rising prominence of Las Culturistas on TikTok. They debate the merits and challenges of maintaining authenticity amidst changing digital landscapes:
Amy shares her admiration for Miss Piggy, positioning her as a cultural icon who defied traditional gender roles:
This segment celebrates the nuanced portrayal of femininity and masculinity in media, drawing parallels with other cultural figures like Kermit the Frog.
Exploring deeper psychological aspects, Amy and Bowen discuss the Enneagram, identifying their types and how these influence their interactions:
As the episode nears its conclusion, the trio engages in an exchange of advice. Amy emphasizes authenticity and warns against overthinking:
Matt and Bowen echo similar sentiments, advocating for maintaining the podcast's fun essence and not succumbing to external pressures.
The episode wraps up with light-hearted banter and reflections on personal growth, integrity, and the importance of creating one’s path in the ever-evolving cultural landscape. Amy encourages embracing authenticity and the unique journey each individual undertakes:
"A real friend sometimes says, 'You're not invited for your own good.'" – Bowen Yang (09:16)
"I'm the party." – Amy Poehler/Matt Rogers (multiple timestamps)
"Miss Piggy was always funny. She had really good jokes." – Amy Poehler (55:29)
"Life is an arrow pointing you to what you want." – Amy Poehler (47:02)
In “I’m The Party,” Las Culturistas presents a rich tapestry of discussions ranging from personal growth and health to pop culture and interior design. Amy Poehler’s insightful contributions, coupled with Matt and Bowen’s engaging banter, create a compelling narrative that resonates with both longtime fans and newcomers alike. This episode not only entertains but also offers valuable reflections on navigating the complexities of modern culture with humor and grace.