"Joyful Joyful" (w/ Constantine Rousouli)

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Joyful Joyful" with Constantine Rasouli

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang released the episode titled "Joyful Joyful" on May 7, 2025. In this episode, hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang welcome their special guest, Constantine Rasouli, also known as Anna Hosnier, to delve deep into the vibrant world of culture, theater, and personal journeys within the performing arts.

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1. Celebrating "Titanique": An Olivier Award-Winning Musical

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic discussion about Titanique, an off-Broadway jukebox musical that has achieved international acclaim. Constantine shares insights into the show's success, including its Olivier Award win and global performances in London, Australia, Canada, and soon, Brazil.

Notable Quote:

• Constantine Rasouli (05:01): "Titanique is a true success story. It's now an Olivier award-winning musical that's making waves around the world."

2. Behind the Scenes of Musical Theater

Constantine recounts personal experiences in musical theater, highlighting the challenges of auditions and the emotional labor involved in performing. She emphasizes the importance of finding roles that resonate authentically with performers’ vocal strengths.

Notable Quotes:

• Constantine Rasouli (41:28): "Auditioning for musical theater is literal hell. They give you 87 packets of material and expect you to learn it in one day."
• Anna Hosnier (43:49): "Having to change the key of a song is not a big deal. Your climactic belt should showcase your true talent."

3. The Evolution from Twink Culture to Maturity

A heartfelt segment where Constantine and Anna discuss their transition from the "twink" phase of their lives to embracing more mature identities. They reflect on how moving to Los Angeles impacted their personal and professional growth.

Notable Quotes:

• Bowen Yang (94:04): "The twink death is the return to Saturn. It coincides with major life changes like moving to LA."
• Anna Hosnier (94:26): "We go through phases, just like fine wine. It's all part of our journey."

4. Navigating the Greek Cultural Influence

Anna delves into her deep connection with her Greek heritage, sharing anecdotes about her upbringing, attending Greek Orthodox services, and how the cultural backdrop shaped her identity and career in theater.

Notable Quotes:

• Anna Hosnier (71:05): "I am the epitome of my Big Fat Greek wedding. Greek columns, plastic-covered furniture—it was our lifestyle."
• Bowen Yang (71:54): "Discovering through 23andMe that my Greek heritage was almost nonexistent was a Culture Clash moment."

5. The Impact of Iconic Pop Culture Moments

The hosts reminisce about late '90s and early 2000s pop culture, discussing influential shows like TRL, boy bands like the Backstreet Boys, and iconic movies such as Coyote Ugly. They highlight how these cultural elements influenced their personal lives and the broader cultural landscape.

Notable Quotes:

• Bowen Yang (50:02): "TRL was everything back then. It shaped our music tastes and cultural references."
• Anna Hosnier (52:11): "Lindsay Lohan's scenes in Coyote Ugly are some of the best I've ever seen in a movie."

6. Addressing Modern Social Media Dynamics

In a candid 60-second segment titled "I Don't Think So, Honey," the hosts critique modern social media behaviors, emphasizing the frustrations with private profiles and the challenges of genuine connections in the digital age.

Notable Quotes:

• Anna Hosnier (96:08): "If you're private on Instagram, why are you even there? Share your life or don't be on the platform."
• Constantine Rasouli (89:38): "I hate it when profiles are private. It feels like a lost cause for meaningful connections."

7. Future Endeavors and Global Expansion

The conversation wraps up with exciting news about future tours for Titanique, including performances in Sao Paulo and Rio. The hosts express their enthusiasm for taking their cultural discussions and performances to international audiences, highlighting the show's continued growth and relevance.

Notable Quotes:

• Anna Hosnier (101:20): "We're going to Brazil in October! Bom dia!"
• Bowen Yang (101:30): "Titanique is making people happy around the world. It's a beautiful thing about art."

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Conclusion

"Joyful Joyful" offers an engaging exploration of cultural phenomena through the lens of passionate performers. Constantine Rasouli's experiences, combined with the hosts' dynamic discussions, provide listeners with a rich tapestry of insights into the ever-evolving landscape of culture and entertainment.

Highlighted Quotes Recap:

• Constantine Rasouli (05:01): Celebrating Titanique's success.
• Anna Hosnier (43:49): Emphasizing authentic vocal performance.
• Bowen Yang (94:04): Reflecting on personal growth.
• Anna Hosnier (71:05): Highlighting Greek cultural influences.
• Bowen Yang (50:02): Nostalgia for TRL.
• Anna Hosnier (96:08): Critiquing private social media profiles.
• Anna Hosnier (101:20): Announcing international tours.

This episode serves as a testament to the power of culture in shaping identities and fostering global connections. Listeners gain not only entertainment but also a deeper understanding of the intricate dance between personal experiences and broader cultural movements.

Transcript

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

Look man there.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh I see my eye.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh my Bowen, look over there.

[Anna Hosnier]

Wow.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Is that culture? Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Goodness. Ding dong. Lost Culturista's calling. Before we got on, I said lost culture. Like as if we had to snap into it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I feel like we've never had to really hit the dials before in that way. But we were coming off of a spirited discussion about what we will never tell.

[Bowen Yang]

We will never tell what we just told. It's actually roller culture number nine. We will never tell what we just told. And I'm also in my literal morning.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Show bag Right now, you are warmed up, chatterbox. You are doing a great job. You look so good on that tv.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you, sister.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Something about those cameras is really. I gotta say, I look pretty good, too.

[Bowen Yang]

You look so snatched, and you wore, like, a blue moment.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Blue is the warmest color. Especially roller culture number 10.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Blue is the warmest color. How has it been so far? You just finished day two of five.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm having the best time.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Isn't it wonderful? I told Matt this. We checked in yesterday. I was like, how was it? He was like, it's great. It's so fun. And I go, I, like, totally get why people do this.

[Bowen Yang]

I get it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

This is a nice gig.

[Bowen Yang]

It's so much fun. And by the way, the sound dude, who's an icon, loves you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh, I love him.

[Bowen Yang]

And your beloved, get this, Bow and yang, beloved in 30 Rock. It's actually roller coaster number 11. Get this bow and yang, beloved in 30 Rock. And, you know, 30 Rockefeller center is in the heart of one of the greatest cities in the world, New York City. And there has been an off Broadway musical. You're never gonna believe this. I really do feel like I'm doing the morning show.

[Anna Hosnier]

You're never gonna believe it.

[Bowen Yang]

You're never gonna believe it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You need. You need to. There has to be a list somewhere of, like, little filler phrases for talk shows in general, but especially morning shows where, like, you're never gonna wait.

[Bowen Yang]

You heard about this yet?

[Constantine Rasooli]

You hear about this yet?

[Bowen Yang]

I found myself doing it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Coming up, we have a cooking demo from. No, no, no, no. My segments were makeover. Loved that.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, we're getting a makeover on Friday.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I love the makeovers. Yeah, this is gonna be fun. And then guy who showed us how to properly use a plunger, that's actually really good. And you know what I asked him, Guys, listen up. You can wash the plunger with your toilet water.

[Bowen Yang]

What?

[Constantine Rasooli]

After you plunge, make sure you flush. Obviously put a little bit of bleach or whatever toilet bowl cleaner you have in there. And then just, like, you just dip it in, kind of rinse it out, and then that's all you have to do. I always got so stressed out after my shit covered, plungers would come out the toilet. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm now thinking, I just want to apologize. I just moved out of my apartment that I had been renting from one Matt Risch. And I just want to say apologies. Dude, that plungers covered in poop.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You could have rinsed it.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I couldn't have because I didn't I didn't know. I didn't have you here to tell me what to do.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Morning TV is so important, but I.

[Bowen Yang]

Could never talk about poop covered plunger on morning tv. You know what I'm saying? This is why I'm so happy to be here. I feel like I can finally breathe because I'm with my sister and this is not morning tv. Although people do listen to it in the morning. Can you imagine listening to us in the morning?

[Anna Hosnier]

No, No.

[Bowen Yang]

I would say, well, I guess maybe if you want to be, like, shocked into the day.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I mean, get the fag off the airwaves. I'm not listening to that.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I almost did today is my. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. That this podcast has become popular. I just feel like maybe I will do it later.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Do it later.

[Bowen Yang]

Because then people are like, why are they screaming during I don't think so, honey? And I'm like, babe, you're joining us in progress. It's in Media res.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's in media res.

[Bowen Yang]

We scream during that part of the podcast and during a lot of the other parts of it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Here's what I scream for. Oh, wait, I just cut you off. I'm never gonna believe this was an off Broadway show in New York.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I say you literally did not cut me off?

[Constantine Rasooli]

I feel like I diverted.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, your feelings aren't facts, bitch.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Hey, Trump. Anyway, that's a problem. Hey, Trump.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Hey, Trump.

[Bowen Yang]

Your feelings aren't facts.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Facts, bitch.

[Bowen Yang]

That's real close to number 12.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Hey, Trump. Your feelings aren't facts, bitch. Watch that be the headline.

[Bowen Yang]

I would love that.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, should Lost Culture start a feud with Trump, we have to move to Ireland like Rosie.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Mm. Well, listen, so what do you scream for? I scream for this off Broadway show that's been in New York for a few years now. It has been truly a community building cornerstone for theater, for theater goers, for people in the community, for tourists from all over the world. My own mother saw this show, and I would never take my mom to any Broadway show. She slept through Hamilton.

[Bowen Yang]

See, I don't get that because it's so loud.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's a loud show. But we went on a Sunday after an SNF and we were all tired.

[Bowen Yang]

Lin Manuel, this has nothing to do with you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

This has nothing to do with you.

[Bowen Yang]

Lin Manuel, sweetie, so you did amazing work on Hamilton. It's actually really close to number 13.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Lin Manuel, you did amazing work on Hamilton.

[Bowen Yang]

Has nothing to do with you. That his mom fell asleep. But listen, I think I know what show you're talking about. And that show is Titanique. And I know that because, well, our guest is not only one of the original stars of it, but also the co creator, co writer. And I feel as though I have to hearken back to the very first time I saw our guest, which was at La Poisson Rouge in a iconic production of Cruel the musical Unauthorized, which also starred Amanda Schectman. She was playing Sarah Michelle Gellar. And our guest was playing Ryan Phillippe. And one of the first things I ever saw was your bare ass. And now he shows his ass every God damn night night out in public. But no, this is like truly a moment in time because we saw this show Titanique and we were literally took to the mics and just let everybody know. And I've been so proud to see what it's done. I just saw it in the West End, it's in Australia, it's in Canada. It's like it's all over the place. I mean this is a true success story. It's now an Olivier award winning musical. Our guest is an Olivier award winner.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Drama desk. Lucille Lortel.

[Bowen Yang]

The ones except Tony's.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Until they get their shit. Until they get their shit together.

[Bowen Yang]

But they kind of just nailed it on some of the nominations.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I got to say, we can talk about that.

[Bowen Yang]

We can talk about that.

[Constantine Rasooli]

He's so wonderful. What a funny writer, performer, talent, friend, traveler, world traveler. We're talking about this.

[Bowen Yang]

Always around the world.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Always around the world with his hot little friends.

[Bowen Yang]

Everyone, please welcome to your ears, Constantine Rasooli.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh my God. First of all, LOL to that introduction, I am so gooped and gagged to be here with my girls.

[Bowen Yang]

We forgot to say the big news, which is that Titanique, you can see it in New York until June 15th. And then do you want to tell them what's so special about those final weeks?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Hot off the press, everyone. Hot off the press. Marla Mandel and I will be coming back into the show for the final two weeks and if we, you know, sell out lots and lots and lots of tickets, maybe we'll pull a Phantom of the Opera and extend for another six months.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't know if you're willing to.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Say that on this show.

[Anna Hosnier]

I don't know, we'll see. Maybe, you know, all of these last culture people who listen, we can figure it out.

[Bowen Yang]

There's now so many readers, Katies, publicists and finalists like, and I think that Ken Kyles you have an opportunity here. You have a big opportunity here. Cause how many times did you do it in the new space? The bigger space.

[Anna Hosnier]

The bigger space. Like a year. A year?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Cause it was like half a year. It was like six months. At the old UCB space asylum that you guys know. The asylum, you know, in the basement of Gristedes, which was wild. Just mold, rats, and it smelled awful.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It was really bad.

[Anna Hosnier]

But you know what? It was like our favorite time.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I think.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Where were your dress? Like, where did you guys do changes? And what was the dressing room?

[Anna Hosnier]

Behind a curtain, literally. Or in, like a closet.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But there's no space.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, there's absolutely nothing. It was those two rooms, and we split all the boys in one and all the girls in.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Right. And then there were the guts. Like those gray brick hallways. Not brick even. It was just like those. But those were the smelly parts.

[Anna Hosnier]

That was gross.

[Bowen Yang]

There was always an inch of water on the floor.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, absolutely. It was the actual Titanic. I was like, ooh, this is very on brand. Let's go here.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Weren't there, like, Grassides basement specific jokes in the original show?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes. At the end of the show, Marlo would say, thank you all for coming tonight in the basement of a Gristide. And then we had to switch it, you know, when we left.

[Bowen Yang]

When you moved.

[Anna Hosnier]

When we moved to the Del Roth Theater, which is in Union Square.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I knew that.

[Bowen Yang]

So I went, Fuerza Bruta.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh. Oh, my God.

[Anna Hosnier]

I just.

[Constantine Rasooli]

The Fuerza Bruta shook.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Fuerza is watching the ghost. The ghost of Fuerza. What is Fuerza Bruta?

[Anna Hosnier]

I don't remember. All I remember is taking a. A gummy. And I was so. Can I curse? Yeah, it's Iheartradio. I was so fucking high that I looked up and remember, like, they had this, like, water crazy thing.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I never saw it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay, well, anyway, there was this immersive crazy. No one knows what it is. They're up in the rafters in this water thing. And I thought I was A, drowning, B, panic attack. C, immediately left and got food and got food.

[Bowen Yang]

You gotta go.

[Anna Hosnier]

And put myself to bed. Cause I was like, I've got to get in my ass.

[Bowen Yang]

Gotta get the fuck out of Forza Bruta before I drown.

[Anna Hosnier]

Before I drown and die. Meanwhile, I'm on the floor like, get it together, Queen.

[Bowen Yang]

It happens sometimes. I remember one time I was too high in the pool and I had to get out because I was positive I was gonna be attacked by a Shark.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Mm.

[Bowen Yang]

That's these gummies, babe.

[Anna Hosnier]

I think that was meth.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That was meth.

[Anna Hosnier]

Sorry, babe.

[Bowen Yang]

All right, that was a meth gummy.

[Anna Hosnier]

That was a meth attack with a.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Vyvanse pill nestled inside.

[Anna Hosnier]

Little rainbow sprinkle.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Y'all don't fuck with water, though. But y'all are so tied to water in so many ways.

[Anna Hosnier]

From being Greek.

[Constantine Rasooli]

From being Greek, sister. Ah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Make out.

[Bowen Yang]

Honestly. Wait, though, I do think I'm a Pisces person. You know what I mean? Greek, definitely. Also, you're Titanique.

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm Titanique water. I mean, I'm an Aries. Is fire as hell.

[Bowen Yang]

Is that Cusp?

[Anna Hosnier]

No, I'm full Aries.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Okay.

[Anna Hosnier]

Full Aries. LOL. No, Cusp is the 21st. Which is Pisces. Aries.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Okay.

[Anna Hosnier]

Because my sister's a 21st, so she's. She's a cuspy.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, cuspy.

[Anna Hosnier]

But we love her. Hi, Ren.

[Bowen Yang]

Hi, Ren.

[Anna Hosnier]

Hi, Ren. You cuspy ass shady.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You and Ren are the. Are.

[Becca Ramos]

Are the sibs.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Are the sibs.

[Anna Hosnier]

She's two years older, best friend, amazing love.

[Bowen Yang]

You kind of give, little brother.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, I'm the child, baby.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I mean, it's perfect.

[Anna Hosnier]

Aries. Like, I'm the baby of the zodiac. She's a monster.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Is Aries the baby of the zodiac?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, you can either look at it as like, baby of the zodiac or like the super, like, grandmother of whose grandmother?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Then who's on the other side of Aries that it's supposed to be like the end of Pluto?

[Anna Hosnier]

I don't know.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, but that's Pisces.

[Anna Hosnier]

Is it? Oh, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm last.

[Anna Hosnier]

So you're.

[Bowen Yang]

I am the grandmother's grandmother.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Hey, G. Ma.

[Bowen Yang]

Hi, baby.

[Anna Hosnier]

I love you, baby.

[Bowen Yang]

Hi, baby boy. I'm so proud of you. You've done well. I die immediately.

[Anna Hosnier]

Done it. Death by grandma.

[Bowen Yang]

God, death. It's so awful. And so why did you want to capitalize on it with Titanique on death?

[Anna Hosnier]

On death? Because you know what? It's gonna be a brutal death when we leave New York City. And that's because you people didn't want to buy tickets. So wait, you're not closing?

[Bowen Yang]

Cause it's not buying tickets.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I'm kidding.

[Anna Hosnier]

I mean, it's. Listen, we've lasted three years, which is in these in dem streets now and in dem times. Can you believe that a little tiny ass off Broadway show could literally survive three years of a pandemic into Trump? Yeah, it's just absolutely mind boggling that we still have been here and we've now gone all over the world. And I have to say, I have to say, and I always say this, it's literally because of you two. No. Yes. I'm sorry. It's true.

[Constantine Rasooli]

If you're okay, let's assume that's true. What is not true is that it's both of us. I think it does squarely fall on Matt. The.

[Bowen Yang]

No, listen to me, both of you. All I know is, and we're both gonna take this, we saw the show and it was like, it just reminded me. It actually literally inspired me because I was like a. I'm not dragging what goes on on Broadway. In fact, I think it's been a great last couple years.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But I also think that the influence of that show and how much joy it brought and how much real comedy it brought, as well as like the incredible music obviously of Celine Dion, it just feels like it was a joyful idea that then became a joyful process that then became a joyful performance that then resulted in all this like joyful, like discussion and consumption of it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen.

[Bowen Yang]

Joyful consumption.

[Anna Hosnier]

Joyful, joyful.

[Bowen Yang]

Frontrunner for title of it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Thank you, thank you. Joyful, joyful. Sister Act 2.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Sister Act 2.

[Anna Hosnier]

Go into it now.

[Bowen Yang]

Really good. It was easy to talk about.

[Anna Hosnier]

You guys were so wonderful. I mean, granted, like I had known of you. We had met a couple times and then you guys were just so lovely and you really championed this little tiny baby project in the bottom of Grassides and you put the word out there. So we are so grateful. I am so grateful. I love you. I mean, I just want to reiterate that to the listeners because it's really true. You have people who champion you and push you forward and you guys are so incredible at that and always paving the way for other people. And it's not just one sided. You are just uplifting. And I am so inspired by both of you and I love you to death, honey. And that is my. I don't think so, honey.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh my God.

[Bowen Yang]

A positive. I don't think so, honey. Mitch, sorry.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's seconds into this. I mean, I always tell you, but I really need everybody to know that like everybody has their own path and like people can be nice and help each other out in this crazy ass business in the world. Everybody just be kind and be nice.

[Bowen Yang]

Absolutely.

[Anna Hosnier]

And it really just goes a long way. And we are, you know, we're just. We love you and we're so thankful.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Well, we have always. I've seen the show. I can count on two hands now the number of times I've seen it. But I think losers across the world. I know. Losers.

[Bowen Yang]

Nothing to do on the weekend. I literally. We were in London for how many days ago should we go see nights ago? Well, we had to see what it was giving in my stand.

[Anna Hosnier]

And you have to know, it's.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's giving.

[Anna Hosnier]

Our babies are giving.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's really good. The vocals.

[Anna Hosnier]

The vocals. I mean, everybody's vocals are insane in this show. Like, truly unbelievable. But like, the vocals in London, I'm like, you monsters know how to sing.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. It's giving Olivier Award winning and nominated performers all up and down the countdown.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But an iceberg bitch won Olivier.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes. For Layton or Leighton Williams.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Congratulations.

[Anna Hosnier]

Leighton is truly unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, the whole cast is unbelievable. I love them to death. I just saw them. I was in London last night and got back.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I can't believe. World traveler.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you actually.

[Anna Hosnier]

World traveler.

[Constantine Rasooli]

World traveler. Paris, then London.

[Anna Hosnier]

London, Milan.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Bus club. Not a club.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No sleep.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Anyway. But yeah, the London production's unbelievable. It's at the Criterion. Go see it if you're in London.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's ongoing.

[Anna Hosnier]

That is running until, as of now, I think, January of 2026. So work, work. And now it's in Paris as well. Work.

[Bowen Yang]

Unbelievable.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You just went to the theater in Paris?

[Anna Hosnier]

Went to the theater in Paris, the Lido Theater. It's at the Champs de Ligees in that fierce area.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Fierce.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Didn't they go to Crazy Horse?

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Can you talk about that? Crazy Horse. I think. I think.

[Anna Hosnier]

I think we should go, you guys. Let's go. No, no, no, no.

[Bowen Yang]

We're going to France next month.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay, well, period. It has to be first on your list. It's one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wow.

[Anna Hosnier]

The women are. I'm gay as hell. The women are the hottest things I've ever seen.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I get it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Truly, like, stunning tits. Good tits, but, like, not fake. It's just like, natural, gorgeous bodies. And I heard that from their tit to their navel, they all have to have the exact same inches, but they can have, like, little, like, kitten heels and, like.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I know it sounds devastating.

[Bowen Yang]

Sorry, Beth.

[Anna Hosnier]

Sorry, Beth. You're half an inch off, baby.

[Bowen Yang]

Off the road.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Queen.

[Anna Hosnier]

Literally. You can choke, Beth. Wow. You'll never get this job. But, yeah. No, it's unbelievable. But it's so precise in the lighting. It's the art. It is art. It is Art. It's like Picasso. I'm like, what the fuck am I seeing? It is crazy. Oh, my God. The most unreal horse I've ever seen.

[Bowen Yang]

Now, do they bring out a horse? No.

[Anna Hosnier]

I wish.

[Bowen Yang]

Look at that horse. Look at that horse. Look at that horse.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah, we should. We should see Cowboy Carter in Paris and then go to the horse.

[Bowen Yang]

We are.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, make it a horse there.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Do we have the tickets?

[Bowen Yang]

We were told someone was getting the tickets. Matt Whitaker is supposed to buy us tickets.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Okay, whatever.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. Okay, so our plan.

[Anna Hosnier]

You tell me everything.

[Bowen Yang]

We're gonna be in a can from the 15th to the 19th because we're promoting our culture. Awards, which you have performed on.

[Anna Hosnier]

We won.

[Bowen Yang]

We won.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You won best indoor live performance or live performance?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

Went to Titanic two years ago.

[Anna Hosnier]

Best night of my life, by the way.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That was so much fun, you guys.

[Anna Hosnier]

If you can ever get to a live taping. Live taping.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Live taping.

[Anna Hosnier]

Live taping. I know.

[Bowen Yang]

Isn't it crazy?

[Anna Hosnier]

I felt like it was like the gay Super Bowl. I came out and they were like, yes. And I was like, wait, you have a no idea who I am, but I love this. And I was eating it up.

[Bowen Yang]

No, but they did know.

[Anna Hosnier]

I know, but it was so.

[Bowen Yang]

Our audience was just as excited for Titanique as they were for, like, when Julia Fox came.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Exactly.

[Anna Hosnier]

You guys, I felt it. I mean, my pussy fell out. I was like, oh, my God. This is what it's like to be Lady Gaga in front of, like, everybody.

[Constantine Rasooli]

There were at least 200 people in that crowd who've seen you be Fiero. Have seen you be Link. You know what I mean? Have seen you on Cruel Intention.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, literally. Let's talk about this. So you've been Fiyero and Link.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And Link and Jack.

[Anna Hosnier]

And Jack.

[Bowen Yang]

And Ryan Phillipe.

[Anna Hosnier]

Wow. And I'm gay as hell.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Looking for Ms. That means that you can do it.

[Anna Hosnier]

You can do it, too. I mean, gay actors work.

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, let's talk about that Fiyero, which is Jonathan Bailey in the movie. Then we got Link, who's Zac Efron in the movie. Then we have Leo DiCaprio. Heard of him. Who's Jack in the film. And then we have Ryan Phillippe. That's a bang off. If I've ever bang off. That is a demon twink.

[Anna Hosnier]

That is a demon twink's dream come true.

[Bowen Yang]

Like Lollapalooza.

[Anna Hosnier]

Listen, I don't take it for granted, honey. Okay? It's. Come on.

[Bowen Yang]

You are tying it all together.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. The Mentally ill, broke ass version. Cool.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Stop.

[Anna Hosnier]

Holler at me. Onstantinerasouli. They will.

[Bowen Yang]

And you know they will.

[Constantine Rasooli]

They will. They holler.

[Anna Hosnier]

They holler.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You come up on my hinge a lot because it's like, these are like, these are the hot guys that are like, top, top, shell.

[Anna Hosnier]

And you don't say hello how?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Well, because I'm like, first of all, someone I know. It's like, no, I know.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's so weird.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's weird. And also weird.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's a weird thing because some people then take it. Cause you've done this before when you see a friend and you're like, hey, stupid, I see you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Totally.

[Anna Hosnier]

And you're like, whatever. And then it stays at that.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yep.

[Anna Hosnier]

Then there's other people who take it too far, and they're like, wow, actually, Matt is really into me. And then you're like, wait, actually, that was a joke. I'm.

[Bowen Yang]

Ooh, I know.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then you have to.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You can't even be, like, too clear about it. You can't clarify. By the way, I am attracted to you, but I don't think we would be a good man. It's like, but why would you.

[Anna Hosnier]

Like, why?

[Bowen Yang]

I give you a call later. Hey, I know that we just did this crazy bit on hinge, but this is me really calling to say I'd be down. I get less.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

I get less demisexual as I get older because I just value my friendship so much.

[Anna Hosnier]

So do I.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I'm saying?

[Anna Hosnier]

So do I.

[Bowen Yang]

But it's hard. It's a hard thing to figure out when you're a gay guy with fun, cool, attractive friends. Because, of course, it's really hard to.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Be a gay guy with fun, cool attractors.

[Anna Hosnier]

Look at us.

[Bowen Yang]

What I mean is like, it's. What I mean is, it's like, it's a difficult thing mentally. You sort of get in your head of like, okay, well, why not? Well, then it's like. And friendships are important, of course. You know what I mean? Number one, it's like I said to a friend recently, I was talking about, like, a mutual friend of ours. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. I just had kind of a thought. And my friend goes, you know what that is? Friendship.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's actually okay.

[Bowen Yang]

And I was like, okay, yeah. It doesn't have to be a thing I do gymnastics in my head about. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's like, yeah, I have a friend that I'm like, a little attracted to. And it's my friend, and I can have that boundary.

[Anna Hosnier]

Absolutely.

[Constantine Rasooli]

How long. What's the tradition of you and Jake and Gus and like, and like those pals?

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God. My besties.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Your besties. You guys have so much true.

[Bowen Yang]

You guys are always having a blast.

[Anna Hosnier]

I know we are. It's just. They're monsters. They're truly absolute monsters. And I wish them nothing but negativity. Yeah, That's a shout out. That's a shout out to my girls. My. My hermanas. We have a. We have our threat as sisters. We're all getting tattoos that say hermanas, but, like, one's getting her. I'm ma, and I think Gus is not. Not lol. And then when you put them together, like, you guys.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, Someone's taken a side in the battle against Jay Z.

[Anna Hosnier]

Please welcome to the stage. Yeah, they're the best. I mean, they're my brothers. Like, they're the brothers I never had. I've known Jake for like 20 years now, which is insane. We met on Facebook because everybody said we used to look alike, which we do. When we have the same hair. We're like very twinning.

[Bowen Yang]

Twinning, yes.

[Anna Hosnier]

But back in the day when we were actual twinks, people would stop me on the street and I'd be like, are you Jake Wilson? Go, Big Blue. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And then they go to him and they'd be like, are you Constantine Rasuli? And he was like, who is that? And then he found me on Facebook and he was like, whoa, I think we should go out for a drink.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And then he.

[Anna Hosnier]

MySpace.

[Becca Ramos]

MySpace stroke.

[Anna Hosnier]

Then he Facebooks me and he's like, let's go out for a drink. And I'm like, okay. I was like, everybody says we look alike. Doppelganger. I met him. We go to Wait for this. Bourbon street on 46th Street. Remember that place? Wow. Yeah. Back in the day, dating in that area. Wild.

[Bowen Yang]

A vibe.

[Anna Hosnier]

I used to live on 52nd and 9th, like, above therapy, which is Hush now.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wow.

[Anna Hosnier]

Good luck with my project. Go to sleep, honey. Like, literally, go to sleep. Go to sleep.

[Bowen Yang]

No, can't. No, too much. Too much thumping.

[Anna Hosnier]

And so, yeah, that's how we met. And I was like, lol, you are rich and we'll never date. And then years later, we crossed paths again.

[Bowen Yang]

So wait, you went on a date, though? Initially.

[Anna Hosnier]

Initially. And I was like, haha. This is fun.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Cool.

[Anna Hosnier]

Bye.

[Bowen Yang]

So there was no smooching, nothing.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then two years later, I'm on tour with Legally Blonde in la.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Who were you in Legally Blonde?

[Anna Hosnier]

I was Nikos. That one. And then I worn her after. So.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, Connie man vibes.

[Anna Hosnier]

Lol. Yeah. With no career. Flying my way to the middle.

[Bowen Yang]

Well then I was like, wait, okay, so you guys meet up two years later.

[Anna Hosnier]

Two years later, my roommate at the time and other like very good friend Courtney, she was like, hey, my best friend from college is coming. And I was like, yeah, cool, whatever. He can stay in our apartment. And she goes, well, there's no bed, so like you have a king sized bed, so I guess he's gonna have to stay in your room. What? And I was like, courtney, that's crazy. Courtney, take your brain. Courtney, take a break. Literally. And then she was like. I was like, who is it? And she's like, oh, it's Jake Wilson. And I was like, are you kidding me? I was like that guy who's like my doppelganger.

[Constantine Rasooli]

How long had it been again since last time?

[Anna Hosnier]

Two years.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Okay. Okay.

[Anna Hosnier]

Then she shows up to LA like a bat out of hell. Comes into like, into the fucking Oakwood suite apartments. And I was like, hun, what is happening? And then, you know, besties, besties ever since slept in my bed. We like turned. It was like one of those movies. And I was like, I think we're gonna be best friends.

[Bowen Yang]

I think we're best friends.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then we were like kickle. Like Kiki Gaggle.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I love it.

[Anna Hosnier]

It was the best ever. And then Gus came in, you know, 10 years later.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

And just wreaked havoc.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, sure.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah, y'all.

[Anna Hosnier]

Three of y'all are the best.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a jam.

[Constantine Rasooli]

There's. But there's like the right amount of chaos there from each of you.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, beyond.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You know what I mean?

[Anna Hosnier]

Beyond. I think like. Yeah, it's a good buddy system.

[Bowen Yang]

Three Great. You know what I mean?

[Anna Hosnier]

I can never travel with anybody else. There's three of us. That's it.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, but did you feel seen by White Lotus?

[Anna Hosnier]

Catch ourselves.

[Constantine Rasooli]

We literally.

[Anna Hosnier]

We were just in Paris, in London, lol.

[Bowen Yang]

Talking about.

[Anna Hosnier]

And I brought them. I brought them as my dates opening. And we were like, we are the basic bitches from White Lotus. And I was like, which ones are you? I was like, go.

[Bowen Yang]

We just did that last week with Joel Kim.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah. We cast ourselves. Who are you in the three?

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm. I would probably be Michelle.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah, you're Michelle.

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm Michelle.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I'm Michelle too.

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm a Michelle.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And then.

[Anna Hosnier]

Who are you? Who are you?

[Bowen Yang]

I think I'M carry hun out of me. Joel and Bowen.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, go on.

[Bowen Yang]

I think Joel is just Leslie Bibb.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That big trumper. That Joel Kim.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, that's Joel Kim. Booster.

[Bowen Yang]

You got a fan. And Joel Kim. Booster. T R U M P More like J K B. It's actually really cooler. Number 14. T R U M P more like JKB. He's gonna hate it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

He's gonna hate it.

[Anna Hosnier]

He is going to punch all of.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Us in the face. But we'll like it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, we'll honestly love it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Totally.

[Anna Hosnier]

Punch me.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Punch me.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

Are you dating now?

[Anna Hosnier]

Mm.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Mm. She's unhinged.

[Anna Hosnier]

Single as hell.

[Bowen Yang]

Single as hell.

[Constantine Rasooli]

What do you want? What's. What's on the list?

[Anna Hosnier]

What do you want?

[Constantine Rasooli]

What do you want? I need to do a pros and cons list and I feel like I've been told it's like the thing you're supposed to do and I still haven't gotten around to doing it. So give us yours.

[Anna Hosnier]

Pros. Be an actual human. Be a legit person. I need you to do the fucking work. Get up every day, meditate, go to therapy. I mean, know who you are.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Have a great relationship with your family and friends and just respect yourself and respect people, love people, care about people. I don't know, have something that makes you wake up every morning that is grateful for. I want gratitude. I want a funny person. I want a kind, respectful human who gets it. Just don't play games. These fucking gays are wild.

[Bowen Yang]

Let me tell you.

[Anna Hosnier]

They're wild. And it's always like, what's, what's, you know, around the corner. It's like, you know what? How about you just look in front of you, yeah. And get to know a human and like, pull back a fucking layer instead of sitting there and being like, mm, you're really cool for the moment. And then. But I'm completely looking around the corner.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, that's like all of la. Which is why I moved back.

[Anna Hosnier]

Well, that's why. Oh, I had to leave.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You had to leave. You're a little incensed about this.

[Anna Hosnier]

I am. I'm pissed.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah. No, okay, so talk about this.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you been given the runaround?

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, for years.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. For years.

[Anna Hosnier]

Run around or the ghosting is actually, can we not ghost anymore?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Why would someone ghost you?

[Anna Hosnier]

Because I feel like people, they think that they know what they want. They think that they're ready for a relationship or they're ready to, you know, open up and they have no idea. It's all bullshit.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I know.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's like, it's face value. It's a facade. It's like, okay, I get it, you're insecure and this is how you go about doing that. But you should also be a respectful human and say, I don't know, it's communication. If you're not feeling it. If you're asking me out and you're pursuing me and you've DMed me and slid into my fucking DMs and found my phone number and sent a letter by stork.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Shit.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then you have the audacity to not even respond after we go out on a date and it was actually good. And you're telling me these things like, wow, this was incredible. You're really an amazing person. I'm so happy we met. And then a full on ghost. At least grow the fucking balls.

[Bowen Yang]

We are too old.

[Anna Hosnier]

We are too old for the shit. You can easily. I would respect you one so much more if you came to me and said, hey, that was incredible. You're an amazing person. I just don't think we're a match. I would love to be friends. And if not, you know, I'm happy we got to do that. And I'd be like, you know what? Incredible. Thank you.

[Bowen Yang]

And I have to say, like, I think people are doing it more than they were, but I get those messages and I'm not upset.

[Becca Ramos]

Me neither.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

All I feel is fine about it. I'm like, wow, that's awesome. Maybe we could be friends. I do have a lot of friends.

[Anna Hosnier]

I have a lot of friends. But I'm happier, honest and open.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Totally.

[Anna Hosnier]

Instead of. Well, that's also coming from people who actually, you know, are not gonna freak out and go insane because we're not insecure.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Totally.

[Anna Hosnier]

So it's like, if you're like, you do the work, whatever. I would love to. I'd rather hear that. And I feel like the other people who are ghosting are so insecure that they're probably afraid of the other persons that's gonna. They're gonna yell at in confrontation. And it's like, I get it. But like, you will be better off, trust me. Because I'm gonna see your ass at a fucking party. Absolutely. And I'm gonna see you all over New York City and. Or all over the world.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

So why make it awkward?

[Bowen Yang]

That's what sucks sometimes. The thing that chaps my ass is like, how small the gay community is, where it's like, yeah, I dated this person and I did not. Well, or whatever. I'm dealing with this. And someone was like, well, who is it? I'm like, you don't know him.

[Constantine Rasooli]

They do.

[Bowen Yang]

Who is it? And then I say the name and it's like, oh, yeah, this person. Da da da da da. And I'm just like, I'm in hell. Because I'm just like. It makes you feel like you're in like a rat maze. You know what I mean? Like, no matter what, you're gonna end up at a dead end or you're gonna run out of like. Which is a crazy thought.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But I do think it's worse in LA than New York. My bit is like, there's like 6 million gays in New York and 33 in Los Angeles. So broadening scope in terms of dating has become like, important to me because I kind of do want ultimately my partner to be someone that's like my partner. Like, I don't really want to hear about their history.

[Anna Hosnier]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I'm saying?

[Anna Hosnier]

Totally. Yeah. Because there can be a hundred gays in a room. And if 99 and 99 and 99.

[Bowen Yang]

Have fucked each other, 99 literally have.

[Anna Hosnier]

All each other one time.

[Bowen Yang]

That's roller culture. Over 15, there could be 100 days.

[Constantine Rasooli]

In a row 99 each other.

[Bowen Yang]

But it only takes one to believe in you. And that's Bradley Cooper.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Well, yes, I do now.

[Anna Hosnier]

Wait.

[Bowen Yang]

Hard launch with Gigi, though. Hard launch with Gigi. Dispel the rumors. They hard launched their relationship on one of those. So she posted a carousel and it was number 18 in the carousel we just talked about.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Carousel.

[Bowen Yang]

Did I say it weird? Hey, carousel.

[Anna Hosnier]

You good, sis?

[Constantine Rasooli]

You good, sis?

[Bowen Yang]

Carousel. You find out I'm having a full blown stroke.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Both of you.

[Anna Hosnier]

I had strokes today. This morning. I mean, God forbid, but literally, you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Just got off a plane.

[Anna Hosnier]

We just got off a plane. I'm still jet lagged as hell.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, well, I underst we just did.

[Constantine Rasooli]

The best carousel at Epic Universe.

[Bowen Yang]

Epic Universe in Orlando. You have to go. It's in Celestial Park.

[Anna Hosnier]

Can't wait.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Hermana should go to Orlando.

[Bowen Yang]

Hermana should go to Orlando.

[Anna Hosnier]

Orlando.

[Bowen Yang]

Why haven't you been in that show?

[Anna Hosnier]

I originally auditioned for it to be what's his face, his standby.

[Bowen Yang]

Andrew Reynolds.

[Anna Hosnier]

Andrew Reynolds.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wow.

[Anna Hosnier]

And Andrew actually got me the audition.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh, I love that.

[Bowen Yang]

And then I went in.

[Anna Hosnier]

But it was. Or he had told him. He was like, you should really see Connie for this. But it was like back in the day when I was so young, and it was the time when they weren't giving scripts out to anybody.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I don't like that.

[Anna Hosnier]

So I had to go in at 10am learn that crazy song. That's stupid. And then they're like, bye. See you at noon. Or two. When you auditioned in front of the whole team without knowing any material, you're just like, have fun. Like, sight read this. And then here's the side. And just cold read. I was like, are you kidding me? And then they were like, you're not the right type of funny. And I said, are you kidding?

[Bowen Yang]

Not the right type of funny.

[Anna Hosnier]

I go, I am comedy.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like you become Fanny Brice. Yeah, I'll show you pratfall. But, like, why would you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Why would you? See, that's a devastating thing to be told, though, that you're not the right kind of funny.

[Anna Hosnier]

I know. Isn't that sad? That was the Book of Mormon who we missed. If new people weren't listening.

[Constantine Rasooli]

They did miss, of course. But you. No, it's totally fine.

[Anna Hosnier]

It was too. Andrew was incredible. All of them were incredible. Too fucking high. I am a high baritone, okay? I'm not going to pussy pop these notes and have a mental breakdown. Eight shows a week on stage to be like, I believe, like, I'm not.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Gonna do a lot.

[Bowen Yang]

It's crazy.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's too. I'm like, also, can we lower the keys for men? That's an. I don't think so, honey. That I'm gonna get to later.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

The jig is up. We all do not have to be screaming fucking like, mixy bitches.

[Bowen Yang]

Bowen just said. No, no, no. Bowen is a counter tenor.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, I know, I know.

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, you said something so prescient the other day, which is being born with an AMAB voice is a curse.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's true, it's true, it's true.

[Bowen Yang]

Did we make that a real culture?

[Constantine Rasooli]

We did not make that a real culture. Number 15, being born with an AMAB voice is a curse.

[Bowen Yang]

We're off to the races on rules today.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Absolutely.

[Anna Hosnier]

The rules are coming in hot.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Can I say something, though? Someone commented, and I just. I just. I. I made the mistake of reading the comments on the sketch I did with Gaga where we sang Wonderful Tonight. And someone was like, bowen's only. Bowman's only a scream singer. And I'm like, okay, how dare you.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I just.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Can I just pull back the curtain and say that I am proud of myself for just being present with one of our great rehearsers, Lady Gaga. She wanted to run that song a bajillion times, and we delayed rehearsals for it because I was like, no, we're getting this right. Because she looks at me and she goes, I think it'll be funnier if we're really good at it. And I said, absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

I always think that about musical comedy. If it sounds so much funnier, I agree.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And then we just. We had to find the. We, like, auditioned, like, seven different keys, and I somehow kept my shit together next to Stephanie Germanotta, and I was like, I'm with you wherever you want to go and whatever. I'm not like. I'm only bringing this up because the keys are hard, and any AMAB voice that has to adapt to a key is doing a lot of emotional labor just for themselves in the audience. And I'm just saying that Gaga was incredible.

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, that was not scream singing easy, and it was not scream singing. I actually was impressed by how effortless it felt. Like you were kind of just, like, tossing it up there, and I was just, like, really proud of you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But the last time I felt that way, that I was tossing it up was at Chromatica Ball.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, you wanna know why? Cause when you're on mushrooms, you're the best singer in the world. It's actually number 16. When you're on mushrooms, you're the best singer in the world.

[Anna Hosnier]

Did you hear that? Yep.

[Constantine Rasooli]

So you're. Would you say counter baritone?

[Anna Hosnier]

No, I'm a high baritone.

[Constantine Rasooli]

High baritone. Sorry, Sorry.

[Anna Hosnier]

I mean, I can, like, with a fierce mix, though. My. My mix is unbelievable.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, but, like, everybody is, like, screaming, and they're like, can you full voice that? I'm like, how about you full voice?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Your.

[Anna Hosnier]

Your. Your own foot in your ass. Yeah. How about you shut up?

[Bowen Yang]

I wrote a lot of my Christmas music when I was 27.

[Anna Hosnier]

And you can tell.

[Bowen Yang]

You can tell.

[Constantine Rasooli]

What do you mean?

[Bowen Yang]

Because, like, Lube for the Sleigh, my song, the Bridge is a belted, like, ooh, vowel on loop. It's just like. It's crazy.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Totally. Totally.

[Bowen Yang]

And you know what's funny is it's like, I didn't realize I didn't know how to sing my own music until I started with a voice coach, and it broke it all open for me. Now I, like, love going there. Like, warming up your voice. Like, do you stay on top of your vocal health?

[Anna Hosnier]

I do. I mean, yes and no. I mean, I feel like after doing eight shows a week is insane. And you're just, like, mentally and physically drained. So you're like, I need, like, a month or two off between gigs or, like, whatever. But, yeah, I mean, there's definitely those moments where you have to be on it. Like, I'll always check. It's like a sick and sick and twisted, like, space that you wake up and you're like, yeah, yeah. You wake up every day and you're like, I have to check even. It's like, three months, the show's done, and you're like, oh, I'm still checking to see if my voice is there. It's crazy. Sure, we call it musical theater mental illness, but it's wonderful.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's not mental illness. It's.

[Becca Ramos]

No, it's.

[Anna Hosnier]

But you gotta stay on it for sure.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You're keeping your chops up.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. I mean, you don't know when, you know, Broadway's gonna call and say, hey, you're on.

[Bowen Yang]

It's time to shred, bitch.

[Anna Hosnier]

Time to shred, bitch. I mean, this literally just happened after Pandemic. Do you remember, like, the height of Broadway coming back and everything was canceled. Everybody was getting Covid for the eighth time.

[Bowen Yang]

Right, right, right, right.

[Anna Hosnier]

They're trying to get these shows back open and blah, blah, blah. I hadn't done Wicked for seven years, and I got a phone call. It's Christmas Eve, like, two days before Christmas Eve, and I'm back in Jersey at my mom's, and I'm at the gym. Cause, you know, gotta get the workout in before the Christmas spirit.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Of course.

[Anna Hosnier]

So I go to the gym up the street, and I get a phone call from my stage manager from Wicked, who I hadn't spoken to in forever. Mary Beth Abel, who I love. And she was like, ah. She calls me Stan Constantine. If you guys didn't catch that. So then she literally calls me. She goes, mm, Stan. And I go, MB she goes, what are you doing? I was like, what are you doing? She's like, well, what are you doing? I was like, I'm at the gym. She's like, so do you want to come back into the show tomorrow night? And I was like, tomorrow night? I was like, what? No, not even to be Vieira, because I first started as the understudy. And she goes, in your original track from no. 7, it had been like 12 years, but I hadn't been back in the show for like, seven.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Got it.

[Anna Hosnier]

And I was like, ma'am, you want me to put that skirt track on? And you want me to like, I don't know, lift a bitch stage right for in the dark and be a cog in a wheel? And she was like, yep, yep. Basically, she's like, you remember it, right? I was like, are you kidding me? She goes, you'll be fine. I marched my ass to that theater, got back into my old costumes. Because the best thing about Wicked is these motherfuckers have your costumes in crazy Ziploc bags in a warehouse, and they just call an assistant and they're like, get Connie Rasuli's costume from circa 2010, blah, blah, blah, shoes and all literally in a beautiful package oh my God, Splayed out on this dressing room table. And you're like, wait, this is lol. Am I gonna fit into this? Cause I was a twink back then.

[Becca Ramos]

You did.

[Anna Hosnier]

You know what? I have a fat ass and a bad attitude, and I went right into it.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Great attitude.

[Anna Hosnier]

Great attitud. No, it was great, but it was crazy. I was like, this is psychotic. Speaking of, you know, just getting random phone calls and having to be right to be ready.

[Bowen Yang]

Well.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You're describing two impossible situations. One involving sight reading, which is. That's an idol.

[Anna Hosnier]

That was crazy. True. I don't read music, so I just like. I. No, I'm one of those.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't even understand what they thought. Like, my thing is like, okay, so. And probably this is a little bit the deal, but it's like, do you want it to be good or do you want it to be not good? And maybe sometimes they want it to be not good so they can just like, like invalidate people. But like, that's so awesome. Can you speak a little bit? What the fuck is auditioning for musical theater? I did it twice, and I couldn't literally kill myself.

[Anna Hosnier]

It is literal. It's hell. They give you like 87 fucking packets of material and like, haha, learn this in one day. And you're like, wait a second, I have to. Now, Back in the day when we started, I had to hire a pianist, put it down on a stupid, like, voice, which is money, by the way.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And time.

[Anna Hosnier]

Money and time. And, like, you know, going to just hire a penis is like, at least $100. And I'm like, cool, can you just play this for me and, like, plunk this out so I can learn it within four hours? I mean, it's crazy. They give you the stuff and then they want you to be as off book as possible. So it's like you're epically going in and failing.

[Constantine Rasooli]

So that's such a setup.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then if, like, you're like, wow, I'm really good for this part. I remember being like, oh, wow, this is really something that I'm dying to do, and I'm really good for it. And it's just written musically a little bit too high, because the person who did it in the fucking workshop or the reading has a higher voice than you. And there's this thing in musical theater that the higher you sing, the better vocalist you are. And we have to stop that narrative.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, that's so nice.

[Anna Hosnier]

And it makes me crazy because, well, all these little Meow Mixie girls who are screaming tits, they're like, she's the best voice in the world. I'm like, she sounds generic as hell. You sound basic. You sound like Sir Mix a lot. Mighty Mouse. I don't want to hear that. Like, where's, like, give me a Bernadette Peters. Give me, like, give me a legit Audrey. Give me a. Give me, like, Carol Channing. I don't know. Give me a fucking actor again. Like, give me somebody who can act the fuck out of something and then be able to sing and then put it in their key. So that's why when I wrote Titanique, I said, I never want anybody in this business. I'm looking at you. Okay. To come in for me if I ever write another musical again, I want you. Well, I want them to feel as comfortable as possible because I never want that feeling of, like, I am so right for this, but I just can't sing it. What key do you want it in? I'd be like, hey, you're incredible. I want you.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

So what is gonna. What is gonna be so comfortable for you? Eight shows a week? I want you to be able to sing that.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I could cry.

[Anna Hosnier]

Literally, I was like. And people would be like, I've never been in a room like this before. And I was like, I know. I've been there. And I've had, like, full on crazy panic attacks after being like, I fucked myself. And I'LL never get seen for this casting director again. And they saw the worst of me because I was too high and I cracked. And then you just go through a spiral, and then you hate your instrument and you're like, no, no, no. You should love your instrument.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, absolutely.

[Anna Hosnier]

This is what you were blessed with.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

So, like, I don't know. I want to show you the actual true self of my voice and my talent. So, like, having a fucking key and changing it is not a big deal. No, I don't think so, honey.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait a minute.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's, like, round of applause.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, that was really important for everyone. I remember, like, Like, Henry is so in, like, these. These musical directors, they can do it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

They can.

[Anna Hosnier]

You know what I mean? But it's their ego, too. They're like, no, it's gonna sound better like that. And they just. Then they. They, they. They fight you. And I'm like, hey, actually, I know what's to the naked ear.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Sorry, babe.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

No one's gonna know the difference.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, if you lower this half a step, no one's gonna know because in your voice, in your voice, whatever key is gonna be your climactic belt or like, the climax of the song is going to sound unbelievable because it's in your.

[Bowen Yang]

It's in context of when the song.

[Anna Hosnier]

Is in context of the song, and it's in context of your talent and of your gift. It's like, hello. No one knows if I'm hitting a.

[Bowen Yang]

Or a D unless they're like those. Those people with, like, perfect pitch that are like that. Want to tell you about it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. The Rachel.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I don't need to know.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I don't need to know. Can I say something?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. I don't need to know.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't need to know that you have perfect pitch. It's actually really culture number 17. I don't need to know that you have perfect pitch. That's great.

[Anna Hosnier]

And that's on period and culture.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's on. On period and Culture.

[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

We should ask the question.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah. Constantine Rosuli, what is the culture that made you say cultures? For me, the formative culture that made you move in a cultural direction.

[Anna Hosnier]

The formative culture. Okay.

[Constantine Rasooli]

There can be many answers.

[Anna Hosnier]

There's many.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

I just will always remember. I mean, clearly. Trl.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I saw Carson Dilley this morning, and I'm so gagged. Like, he just walks around today's show like, that's what he's doing now.

[Anna Hosnier]

And I'm like, that's Carson Daly. I know. That was, like. For me. I remember coming home, rushing home, getting off the bus, throwing my backpack on the counter, being like, where's the sandwich, Ma? And then grabbing, like, a Diet Coke and sitting my fat ass on the couch with a bag of chips.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Watched you back then, too.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, I was a fat kid growing up.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, really?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, she was a husky mama. Yeah, husky mama. We shopped at the husky section.

[Bowen Yang]

So you drank a Diet Coke, ate chips, and, like, turned on crl? I did it again. Was number one again. Yes.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then I'd be, like, learning choreo. Putting in the VHS to be like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, the video's gonna play. And then my sister would come in, and then she would annoy me, and I'm like, shut up. The video's playing. It's Brittany.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You and Jake are besties. I mean.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, same person. That's sick. Like, he's number one Britney fan.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Of course.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Like, I'm not gonna take that.

[Bowen Yang]

You can't even try.

[Anna Hosnier]

You can't even try. I mean, it's. She'll literally blow me up. Blow you up and throw poop at my face.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh, my God. Okay, so trl, thanks for Baboon.

[Anna Hosnier]

God. Don't you miss a baboon.

[Bowen Yang]

A baboon on the carousel.

[Constantine Rasooli]

The carousel.

[Bowen Yang]

TRL rocks.

[Anna Hosnier]

TRL was like that. Let me have it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Truly. Let me have it. And it, like, shaped everything. I mean, I wanted.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I.

[Anna Hosnier]

You know, highlights. And I. I went to this local CVS and, like, had this whole hair dyeing fiasco in my bathroom.

[Bowen Yang]

Who was the. Who was the person that inspired that the most? Was there, like, a. Because there was JT doing his, like, frosted curls.

[Anna Hosnier]

I think it was. I think it was. It was Nick. Backstreet Boys. Nick Carter. Wow. That was the first concert I ever saw. It was Backstreet Boys. It's a good one. Great one. But they let me have it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, they sing.

[Anna Hosnier]

They were fantastic.

[Constantine Rasooli]

They sang down Backstreets and choreo and Choreo. We'd have to explain something to. Cause I guess there are younger listeners who don't understand the impact of Backstreet Boys.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, God.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, the boy bands.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, it was.

[Anna Hosnier]

It was girl. It was girl. Girl bands. Boy bands. Like, you guys have no idea what it did to us.

[Constantine Rasooli]

First email I ever sent from a computer in the business center of, like, some stranger's apartment building that we went to for, like, a family dinner in Canada was to the official Backstreet Boys fan site account. Like, hi, I want to say hi to Nick Carter. I love you. This is Bowen, and my first email I ever.

[Bowen Yang]

You sent a little gay email.

[Constantine Rasooli]

A little gay email to Nick Carter.

[Bowen Yang]

He really was the one.

[Anna Hosnier]

He was the one.

[Bowen Yang]

And then as you get older, although Kevin. Kevin.

[Anna Hosnier]

Kevin can get it. Kevin, you can get it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Now, Howie, I met backstage at SNL50, the sweetest guy.

[Bowen Yang]

You know who I wanted to fuck bad?

[Anna Hosnier]

Who?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Aj.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, he's bad boy.

[Bowen Yang]

AJ could get it with his little beanie and his goatee and his tattoos.

[Anna Hosnier]

Also, that he could fuck the vocals on aj.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, he was kind of the sound of that group. It was not Nick.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It was not Nick.

[Bowen Yang]

Nick would float in with his little nasally tenor, but it's like Justin Timberlake.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, it's the same thing. JC has the voice.

[Bowen Yang]

JC taught me everything I know.

[Anna Hosnier]

Same.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Kevin was mysterious. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I need to correct it. It was not Howie that I met backstage. It was aj. And AJ was so sweet.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, AJ is a doll.

[Constantine Rasooli]

AJ's a doll. But Kevin.

[Anna Hosnier]

I think Kevin is hot.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Kevin's gorge.

[Anna Hosnier]

Like, stunning.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Stunning.

[Anna Hosnier]

Like, hasn't changed at all.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Backstreet Boys. TRL was there.

[Anna Hosnier]

Ricky Martin also. Let me have it.

[Bowen Yang]

Who I. Yeah, he's.

[Anna Hosnier]

Did he do something to his face? Because she looks unbelievable.

[Bowen Yang]

He looks.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I think he's always been beautiful.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, I mean, he.

[Bowen Yang]

He's a vibe.

[Anna Hosnier]

The vibe. He was my vibe. Live in la vida fucking loca.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Fucking loca.

[Anna Hosnier]

Punched me in the clown so hard back in the day. And I could only go to Coconuts and. Or Sam Goody, if you remember that. Sam Goody, where we had to, I don't know, go to a place to receive music. Everybody. You know, Jenna, who. You just get it on your phone. I had to wait. And I would be pissed. I would go to every CD store to try and get this album when Ricky Martin came out, and it could be sold out.

[Constantine Rasooli]

This is, like, it was sold Out.

[Bowen Yang]

Just so you know.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You guys were streaming now, where it's like, oh, I can pre save it. There's like, leaks early. It's like, no, no, you had to wait. Truly. I remember, like, needing desperately to get there on the day Oops, I Did it Again. Came out this album because I was like, it might not be there for a week.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's going to be gone. Wait in line.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You had to drive to Borders and, yeah, the CD wouldn't be there. You go to another a Sam Goody. A fucking.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, it was coconuts. Coke.

[Constantine Rasooli]

What's co. Is that a Jersey thing?

[Anna Hosnier]

I think that's a Jersey thing. Or maybe it's Tri State. Do you remember coconut?

[Bowen Yang]

I don't remember coconut.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Coconuts.

[Bowen Yang]

But I'm same thing.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's from CD stor. It was crazy. But, yeah, I would be pissed. And the only thing that I. My scroungy little hands got up, got on was Ricky Martin's Living La Vida Loca on cassette. So I had to. Then wait. Okay, then you guys. You had to wait. When the cassette ended, you had to rewind.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You had to rewind and flip it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, flip it and reverse it.

[Bowen Yang]

Having to flip it and reverse it. Wait.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then the other side was like, the Spanish side. So I was like, okay, now I'm gonna listen to this in Spanish.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Learn some Spanish.

[Bowen Yang]

If you think I'm not off book on no Me Ames by Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony. I have news for you. I'm kind of not. But I was at one point.

[Anna Hosnier]

Guys, now that's comedy.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's called a reverse.

[Bowen Yang]

It's. No, it's everything. My favorite Ricky Martin song is a valid.

[Anna Hosnier]

Which one?

[Bowen Yang]

She's all. I ever heard that one.

[Anna Hosnier]

Guys, vocals. It is 1255 and we are singing down.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I'm not singing. Y'all are.

[Bowen Yang]

But you could be.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I could be.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I gotta lube up. But wait.

[Bowen Yang]

She's all I ever had. That was everything.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Titanique, a jukebox musical for Ricky.

[Anna Hosnier]

For Ricky.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Would you do a jukebox musical again or.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No, you wouldn't want to write your own?

[Anna Hosnier]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

Write your own.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna write my own music.

[Bowen Yang]

We'll do the book.

[Anna Hosnier]

That's my. Yeah, we'll do the book. For sure. I mean, yeah. Mgm, Fox, everybody come to us. We have guru. I mean, just hire us.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, can I ask a question? How can Titanique be on the West End but not Broadway?

[Anna Hosnier]

Good question, but I don't get it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Tell us.

[Anna Hosnier]

I don't know, I think here's the thing, you know, you. There's different models. I would say there's different models for every show. You know, we were this random jukebox musical that came out right after Pandemic. So I think our producer was, you know, trying to keep it small in the sense of, like, let's build the brand and not go too hard too soon, you know? And then it started, like, really picking up speed and momentum, and I think we had an opportunity in the height of it. Like, when. When Marlon and I were gonna leave, it was like June of 2023. I mean, it was like, I looked at in the audience, and it was like, you guys again. And like, that's it. You guys again and again. And it was like, you know, Margot Robbie and Matt Bomer, who is the hottest person I've ever seen.

[Bowen Yang]

He listens to the show. Hey, girl.

[Anna Hosnier]

Matt, it's Connie from Titanique. And we never met backstage. Cause you left, and I was pissed, but you made me so nervous, and nobody ever does, so I love you.

[Bowen Yang]

He's pretty. Beautiful.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Gorgeous. And then it was like, you know, Lauren. And then Lauren was there.

[Bowen Yang]

I know.

[Anna Hosnier]

RuPaul. And just, like, all these people, and you're, like, looking out in the audience. You're like, what the fuck is happening? Like, this was. We never expected any of that to happen. So you're sitting there and you're just like, okay, maybe this is gonna transfer and this is gonna go to Broadway. And I just, you know, I don't know what happened. You know, there's never a. It could possibly happen again. I think we were fighting the parody of it all, you know, and people, especially in the business, are like, oh, snooty. This is Broadway. We don't do parodies. When I'm like, I know it's. But it's a new comedy, and clearly the world loves it. And we just won an Olivier, which is like the Tonys of London.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And for, you know, it's bringing theater.

[Anna Hosnier]

Back, and I'm like, can't we just, like, have fun again and just laugh and we don't have to always learn lessons when we go to the theater.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Sure, sure.

[Anna Hosnier]

And it doesn't have to be this, like, highbrow, crazy story about mental illness and pills and. Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

I psychopharmacologist tonight.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, exactly. So it's.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, that was my Alice Ripley. Lauren.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Really good Lauren.

[Bowen Yang]

Alice Ripley.

[Anna Hosnier]

Hello. It's really pertinent now, so I just think there's room for everything there's room for everything on Broadway. And I wish sometimes the bigwigs of Broadway didn't look down to a comedy that is just like, oh, this is a dumb comedy. Meanwhile, comedy's harder than dramas, you guys.

[Bowen Yang]

100%. Meanwhile, O Mary is like a Pulitzer Prize finalist.

[Anna Hosnier]

I mean, look at, I mean, example Cole. I am so beyond inspired by them. That was one of the craziest things and most incredible things I have ever seen in my entire life. That whole cast, everything. So it's like, yes, cool, fun, crazy, weird, new work is allowed. We're allowed to play. And clearly it's working. The people want it. So, yeah, I don't know. Hopefully, maybe we will one day get there. But I think right now it was just. We kept it as an off Broadway show, and I think it just sat there and I think we were building the brand and it just was like our little baby that just is waiting in the wings.

[Bowen Yang]

That was cool. You know what I mean? I feel like it's like there's something about it that felt like you gotta.

[Anna Hosnier]

Especially when it's a cool underground theater.

[Bowen Yang]

It was a cool underground thing.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Like, you saw it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It will always be a unicorn.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Like, it was a magical unicorn.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Like the. Like, whatever. Like, this is the. What Catherine O'Hara says in about movies. It's like a great movie is great forever. Like, a great show. Like that is literally great forever. And you are. It is literally around the world.

[Anna Hosnier]

Thank you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You should be so proud.

[Bowen Yang]

That's so beautiful. Like, to have an extension of you. Like, I always. This is the stupidest, dumbest, dumbest comparison that I'm gonna make. And look, I'm looking in the camera. I know how dumb I am. Okay. I know. I don't need you to tell me. I think that this podcast is popular because I have people telling me how dumb I am. I know that I've known it for years. What I'm gonna say is, it's like when you book a pre show at a theme park and you. It lives forever hundreds of times a day and you don't even know it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, Titanique is every night around the world, sometimes twice a day. It's making people happy. You are like, writing and performing all the time without even doing that. And that is such a beautiful thing about art and theme parks.

[Anna Hosnier]

Thank you. Honestly, that is the best compliment ever. I am so thrilled.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, I was watching. I went to Universal when we were there. I was there the day before with my sister, and they have the Bourne stuntacular Which is. Yes, a Jason Bourne stunt show. And Julia Stiles does the pre show serving jacket. And Julia Stiles serves this pre show so hard. And I'm like, she has to know, Julia. You have to know. You're giving it to the girls every 20 minutes thousands of times a day. Every 20 minutes, you're up there giving the jacket of a lifetime work. My favorite part of it, and then we don't talk about this anymore, is she's dead in the movie series. Like, spoiler alert, Julia Styles is fully dead. She gets blown up. She gets blown up and literally lays in the street like this. And then in the pre show, she goes, jason believes I'm dead. And they show her death, like. And I'm like. Cause you are canonically.

[Constantine Rasooli]

She's alive, though, I guess, now.

[Bowen Yang]

So if you were a huge fan of the Julia Stiles character in the Bourne movies. She's alive.

[Anna Hosnier]

She's alive and long. Also. Bring back Save the Last Dance.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I tell you something? Yes.

[Anna Hosnier]

I think that might be our next musical. Why not?

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, I'm coming up with that idea right now.

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm coming up with that idea right now.

[Bowen Yang]

Because you know what? They're literally doing 10 things I hate about you. I know.

[Anna Hosnier]

Also, you know what else is gonna be good? And I'm throw it out there. Center stage. Full parody of center stage.

[Bowen Yang]

Really cool.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's niche.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's a niche market. Everybody, go watch it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Go watch it. Niche is over. It doesn't matter. It's everything.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's everything. Yeah, it's everything. It was. That shaped me back in the day, too. Talk about culture.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Okay, so let's go. Let's go back to this TRL center stage.

[Bowen Yang]

Zoe Saldana's, like, sort of, like, entrance into the mainstream.

[Anna Hosnier]

The mainstream.

[Constantine Rasooli]

We, like, weren't we like, didn't we put it on On Fire island one year? We just, like, where we were, like.

[Anna Hosnier]

Making and, like, Donna Murphy, like, come on. I was just talking about this with Christopher Wheeldon, who is a very good friend, who's, you know, our girl from mj, you know, ballet dancer to the stars.

[Bowen Yang]

Come on now.

[Anna Hosnier]

And we were chatting about it, and he was just like, yeah, he worked on that movie. So he told me all the tea, which we'll talk about after, honestly.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah. That's probably such good stuff.

[Anna Hosnier]

Unbelievable.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Unbelievable. We saw Danya's beginning of her career was literally center stage. And then Crossroads, when she wasn't she.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Pregnant in it in Crossroads, was she.

[Bowen Yang]

Was she the pregnant one? Or was that Taryn Manning.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Taryn.

[Bowen Yang]

Think about that trio.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Kim Cattrall.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

And Kim Cattralla's the mom.

[Anna Hosnier]

I mean, that is crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

I need the oral history now.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then. Coyote Ugly. This is like the. The year of movies.

[Bowen Yang]

Coyote Ugly is something I watch whenever it's on. It also has one of the hottest sex scenes ever. If you watch the extended version.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I think I've seen it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay, wait. Do you remember that? My favorite scene?

[Bowen Yang]

What?

[Anna Hosnier]

What's your favorite scene from Coyote Ugly? I'm about to blow your damn mind.

[Bowen Yang]

Um, is it. Wow, I don't know. What is it? Nope, Mine is the sex scene.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, I'm asking you what yours is.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, no, mine is the sex scene, period. It's like. His name is Adam Garcia. He was also a Fiero.

[Anna Hosnier]

He was in London.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. This guy is. He is the hotter.

[Anna Hosnier]

Look him up right now.

[Bowen Yang]

Guy. Ever.

[Anna Hosnier]

Beautiful hair.

[Bowen Yang]

He was beautiful. Like, dark, like, black hair. Honestly, kind of looks like Matt Bomer. Yes, but like, a little bit more like.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, he had curly. Like those. Didn't he have, like, the curly locks?

[Bowen Yang]

I almost used the word supple.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Supple locks.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. This one.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I've seen him everything.

[Bowen Yang]

Show the camera.

[Anna Hosnier]

Show the camera.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, get into it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Hold on, hold on. I gotta zoom in. Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. And there was a whole scene where he did the striptease. This is the best scene.

[Anna Hosnier]

Body. Yes, yes, yes.

[Bowen Yang]

What's different? What's the scene?

[Anna Hosnier]

My favorite scene. Do you remember when she.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, do you have a favorite scene?

[Constantine Rasooli]

I've never seen it.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay, Bowen. Sorry.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Tyra literally tell you to jack off.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, yeah. Go home now.

[Bowen Yang]

Sorry, Tyra.

[Anna Hosnier]

Sorry. Tyra, do you remember when she. When she goes and brings her cassette tape to, like, the label?

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, I do.

[Anna Hosnier]

And it's that fierce black woman who's sitting there and she's like, on her phone, and then she gives her thing. She goes, hey, I'm so sorry. Can I leave this for you? And she was like, honey, let me tell you something. My daughter tells me that she's a bisexual and that she hates me more than anybody else in the whole motherfucking world. Now let me tell you. How can I make your dreams come true? Because I am dying to know. Monologue for the stars.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh, my God.

[Anna Hosnier]

Best part of the whole movie.

[Constantine Rasooli]

TikTok.

[Anna Hosnier]

Let me have it. I need to find her.

[Bowen Yang]

My best bisexual daughter.

[Anna Hosnier]

Unbelievable.

[Bowen Yang]

Tells me she hates me more than anyone else in the world.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Now let me tell you. Now tell me how I can make her dreams come true.

[Anna Hosnier]

Because I am dying to know, where.

[Bowen Yang]

Is the Oscar for that?

[Anna Hosnier]

Isn't that. It was the best monologue I have ever seen in a movie.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's like one of those, like, doubt style, like, actress pops in.

[Bowen Yang]

She needed an Oscar nomination.

[Anna Hosnier]

She needed an Oscar nomination. It was my. I mean, I still remember it. That was, what, like, 25 years ago?

[Bowen Yang]

Something's just something wrong with me from that era, though, from this era that we're specifically talking about, like, our brains being, like, truly spongy in a way where it's like, now I can put on movies from that time or movies that I was watching at that time.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Like Grease and be off book.

[Bowen Yang]

Off book.

[Anna Hosnier]

Off book.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Off book. On Clueless. Off book. On, like, Bring It On.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God. You can quote anything from Bring It On. Truly, anything.

[Constantine Rasooli]

We met Big Red. I know. I know.

[Anna Hosnier]

We've said it before.

[Bowen Yang]

We did meet Big Red. We literally. Big Red, who was also sexy media.

[Constantine Rasooli]

The teenage witch.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, she was.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yep.

[Anna Hosnier]

That's right.

[Bowen Yang]

Lindsay. She came up and she. We were at Coachelli. We were leaving, I think Charlie xd.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And she came up, and this woman.

[Bowen Yang]

Comes up, and she's so kind, and she goes, oh, my God. I just want to say, I listened to your podcast with my daughter. She's right over here. And the daughter's so cute and waves. And then we're like, oh, my God, thank you so much. And then she goes. She goes, I played Big Red. And then we bring it on, and we both.

[Anna Hosnier]

Does she look the same? What does she look like?

[Bowen Yang]

She looks the.

[Anna Hosnier]

So you're like, girl, we know it's you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Gorgeous.

[Bowen Yang]

In fact, I think it was a little dark or whatever, but I'm so happy she said that.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yes, me too.

[Bowen Yang]

Because the second she did, I literally.

[Anna Hosnier]

Like, you're like, I sizzle, I scorch. And now I pass the torch. The ballots are in, and one girl has to win.

[Bowen Yang]

She's perky, she's fun, and now she's number one. The whole thing. We've done it on this podcast before in these very.

[Anna Hosnier]

Cheers. We are gay as hell.

[Bowen Yang]

I have to tell you.

[Anna Hosnier]

You love it.

[Bowen Yang]

She was so nice. And then I had this, like, lovely DM exchange with her after, because I didn't realize in the moment that she was also on Sabrina, which I watched religiously.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I wore that show out. And then Bring it on.

[Constantine Rasooli]

My first, like, Harvey fantasy boyfriend. You kind of Harvey. Okay, You're a Harvey.

[Bowen Yang]

Where's Harvey?

[Anna Hosnier]

Where is Harvey?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Most handsome boy.

[Anna Hosnier]

You there, Harv.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, you know what happened to Jenna Lee Green?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Nessa.

[Anna Hosnier]

Nessa Rose. Nessa Rose also she was. I think she understudied Elphaba. We were very good friends in la. Love. Taylor Lee Green.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, she is a talent like her. Libby.

[Anna Hosnier]

Libby. But do you remember when she was in. What was that? Oh, my God, I'm having a blank Off Broadway show with John Hill and Michael Arden. Oh, and Natalie Joy Johnson and.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh my God, this is a great career. But I see that show today.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, it was about like the two gay boys in Catholic high school and they fall in love. Oh, my God, what is it called?

[Bowen Yang]

I don't remember it either.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Gay boys in Catholic high school and fall in love with.

[Bowen Yang]

Wicked. I like that as a title.

[Anna Hosnier]

Wiccan.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wicca. I like that it's a title.

[Bowen Yang]

What is this? I can't remember what that.

[Anna Hosnier]

Anyway, but Jenna was in there. She was leading that vocals down. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I will sometimes watch like a comp. I'm sure I'm with the right people to share this. Just a compilation of Wicked Witch of the east, which I think is the best.

[Anna Hosnier]

Shoshana.

[Bowen Yang]

Sorry.

[Anna Hosnier]

Shoshana is the best, Sean. Period. I will say Jenna Lee Green gives.

[Bowen Yang]

You a big full belt. Run for her money.

[Anna Hosnier]

She does. Jenna's incredible. The Wicked Awaken.

[Bowen Yang]

I love it. It's the best. Why isn't it on the album them? That's why. I don't think so, honey.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Slime tutorials of Wicked Witch of the East. That is explored territory that I have not. Wait, what is slime tutorial? That's unexplored territory.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yes.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Does that count as a slime tutorial or no?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

What's slime tutorial?

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's like. It's just like a. It's like bootleg cuts of things, but.

[Anna Hosnier]

It'S like Christmas haunting you.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, sure. Sure, sure, sure, sure.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I might be. I might be misusing the term.

[Bowen Yang]

I like it though.

[Anna Hosnier]

I like it though. Let's use it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Let's use it.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, speaking of slime, this was Nickelodeon culture. This was also around that time. TRL. Nickelodeon. This was 1999. 2000.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

This was the millennium.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. This was the time.

[Constantine Rasooli]

What was Sabrina on?

[Bowen Yang]

Sabrina was on Nickelodeon.

[Anna Hosnier]

Nickelodeon.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Or was it.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, no. Was it abc? Was it part of tgif?

[Anna Hosnier]

It was tgif.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, it was TGIF Went so hard.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, I know. I couldn't wait because what were we gonna do on a Friday? Let's go to our friend's house and.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No way.

[Bowen Yang]

Not Me?

[Constantine Rasooli]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

I would get on the bus on Friday, and my mom, who would just walk me, I would look out the window because I was. This is a weird thing. I was really afraid of the bus. I used to get. Have anxiety attacks about getting on the bus and not having anyone to sit with. So I would get on the bus through middle school and high school, not. Not through high school, through elementary school and middle school. This was the thing. So I'd get on the bus and look out the window, like, terrified. Like, me, like, dying, shaking. And my mom would go to remind me that it was coming on later.

[Anna Hosnier]

Mother. I need to hug her.

[Bowen Yang]

I love her. It would. It would make me feel so much better because I knew that. That if I just could get through school, I could watch tgif.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh.

[Bowen Yang]

Boy meets World.

[Anna Hosnier]

Boy meets World. Topanga. That hair, those tits.

[Bowen Yang]

Can you imagine a woman named Topanga?

[Becca Ramos]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Literally. Like, get out of here.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Get out. I love that.

[Bowen Yang]

I love Topanga.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Topanga. Like, who thought that was a good idea?

[Bowen Yang]

Obviously someone genius.

[Anna Hosnier]

Topanga Canyon. I'm sure they lived in.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Exactly.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you think she was named after the canyon in which she was born?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Where else are they. They pulling that from?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, where are you pulling that? Because Topanga was a slut. Okay. From the canyon.

[Bowen Yang]

No, Cory and Topanga, that was. They were the first power coup.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

They really were.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then Dawson's Creek came after. Oh, my God. All of it. And then Buffy and Charm.

[Bowen Yang]

Were you a Buffy gay?

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God. Was I a Buffy gay?

[Bowen Yang]

So when Sarah Michelle Geller came to see the show, were you dead?

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God. I'm so. I was so dead. I mean. And Sarah came, like, three times.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh, really? That's so nice.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Sarah Selma Reese.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Did Ryan come?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes, Ryan came. And he was the best.

[Becca Ramos]

Oh, of course.

[Anna Hosnier]

He was so the most.

[Bowen Yang]

He was really nice, lovely person.

[Anna Hosnier]

He came up to me after, and he's like, way to keep the Valmont name alive, man. And I was like, I'm gonna make out with you now. I'm literally obsessed.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh, my God.

[Anna Hosnier]

He's so wonderful. Sarah is so wonderful.

[Bowen Yang]

I only heard the best things about Sarah Michelle.

[Anna Hosnier]

Sarah Michelle Geller is. It also looks exactly the same.

[Bowen Yang]

She's having, like.

[Anna Hosnier]

She's having a renaissance. Yeah. She's the best. I love her so much.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I would like to see? I would like to see. I know they're doing a new season of Buffy. I would like to see SMG in the new season of White Lotus. I feel like Sarah Michelle Gellar.

[Anna Hosnier]

She will let you have it would tear up some.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

Because people forget how dramatically good she is.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I feel like people don't remember that she was giving you versatility.

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm sorry. Cruel intention. She was like, what, 21.

[Bowen Yang]

Iconic.

[Anna Hosnier]

The best performance I have still to this day, one of the best performances I've ever seen on film. All three of them.

[Bowen Yang]

When they find her coke vial at the end and just a single tear comes down her. Her face. Because she knows they her up.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

She is a new season of Buffy. Or new.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a new.

[Anna Hosnier]

I think it's a new.

[Bowen Yang]

I think it's just. I think they're rebooting it as a show. Right.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I thought it was. I know what you did last summer.

[Anna Hosnier]

Same.

[Bowen Yang]

Same thing. I still know what you did last summer.

[Anna Hosnier]

Remember the thrillers, like when we were like those scary movies and screaming, yes, Jen, Kate.

[Bowen Yang]

And Robertson is Jason.

[Anna Hosnier]

J.T.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Robinson.

[Bowen Yang]

Did I still know she did someone great? Et cetera.

[Anna Hosnier]

Those were guys. We lived in great times, dad. We didn't know. Napster.

[Becca Ramos]

Napster.

[Bowen Yang]

God. Remember Kazaa?

[Anna Hosnier]

Kazaa. Limewire.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Limewire.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you remember Rhapsody?

[Anna Hosnier]

Of course. I had all of them. They would all go. I would completely fuck up my mother's computer every five minutes. We'd have to take it to Toshiba. And she'd be like, you crashed the computer again, Khan. And I was like, sorry, girl. I had to download that song. That took 48 hours. Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you deeply connected to your Greek roots?

[Anna Hosnier]

1,000%. Yes. I am the Greekest person ever.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Because I don't have, like, Greek culture in my life, but I feel like you do.

[Anna Hosnier]

Here you go. I'm right in front of you.

[Bowen Yang]

There you are.

[Anna Hosnier]

She is. I am the epitome of my Big Fat Creek wedding.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

There are. There are Joey Fatone. I am Joey Fatone. No, I'm Nea Verdalos.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You're Nia.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh. There are columns in front of my house. Yes. So let's say Greek columns.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yep.

[Anna Hosnier]

There was plastic on the furniture my entire fucking life.

[Becca Ramos]

Love it.

[Anna Hosnier]

In that room that nobody can go in.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Plastic on the remote. No, no.

[Anna Hosnier]

But that's crazy.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Sorry. That's an Asian thing. Maybe.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay, cool, cool, cool.

[Bowen Yang]

Germs.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Because germs.

[Anna Hosnier]

Germs.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But there's more germs on the platform.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Keep going.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, we would. We. Still, to this day. There's a baby lamb for Easter that's on a spit, roasted outside of my fucking house in the backyard.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Beautiful.

[Anna Hosnier]

And people are like, what is that smell? And I'm like, it's just a lamb.

[Bowen Yang]

The baby lambs.

[Anna Hosnier]

The baby lambs getting in the bath. And my mom's just like making stew from the insides of the lamb. And I'm like, girl, are you okay? Like, what is happening? We are this Greek. I mean, it's sick. My sister lives behind my parents house. That's beautiful because that's amazing. And also.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wait, what's her name? What's her name?

[Anna Hosnier]

Renee Ren.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Renee Ren. Oh, that's right.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Okay.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And also, I cut you off.

[Anna Hosnier]

What? Oh, no, also just that I'm so Greek. Like, I went to Greek school every.

[Bowen Yang]

Were you Greek Orthodox?

[Anna Hosnier]

Greek Orthodox.

[Bowen Yang]

Me too.

[Anna Hosnier]

Holler.

[Bowen Yang]

So I only. It was the first eight years of my life. I've told you this. We were Greek Orthodox. I know you. We moved to a different town and we switched to Roman Catholicism because my dad goes, it's basically the same. And it's. It was the Greek word that's all in Greek.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's all in Greek.

[Bowen Yang]

So I couldn't understand.

[Anna Hosnier]

And it's three hours long. You want to go to church for three hours every Sunday? I don't think so, honey.

[Bowen Yang]

That was crazy.

[Anna Hosnier]

Crazy. I would have to sit there and be like dozing off. And my mom's like, pay attention. I'm like, to what?

[Bowen Yang]

I can't even understand because it was all in Greek. I didn't understand it. And then we. They were like, basically the same. We became Roman Catholic. And then I could hear what they were saying and I'm like, oh, this. Well, this sucks.

[Anna Hosnier]

Well, because also, like, there's something beautiful about going to a Greek church. It's like stunning. Like Byzantine arc, like things and art.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I live next to one.

[Anna Hosnier]

I mean, it's stunning. It's beautiful.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's the church next to me.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, that's.

[Bowen Yang]

That's a Greek Orthodox church.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Church, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Huh.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. My parents. Speaking of, when you transferred to Catholicism. My parents, when we were going to high school, we had no high school in our town. You would have to. To like go private or go somewhere else. And so they were like, we're gonna put you in Catholic school. And I was like, wait, what? I was like, but I'm not Catholic. Like, same thing, same thing. So then me, like, having to go to mass every, whatever, Friday. And then I was like, okay. And then I got bamboozled into singing in the choir. So then everybody calls me the gay singing kid. They're like, hey, gay singing kid. Great job on Our God is an awesome God. And I'm like, cool. Don't even know that song. And I'm sitting here like, singing like McDonald's fucking songs. That's what it felt like. Because I was like. I grew up in the Greek church, which was like, all like Byzantine, ancient Greek, like, hymns.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Sure.

[Bowen Yang]

The best one.

[Anna Hosnier]

What is it?

[Bowen Yang]

Did you ever sing Hosanna in the Highest?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Of course.

[Bowen Yang]

Hosanna in the Highest. It's actually kind of cunty. Yeah. Blessed is he who comes from the.

[Anna Hosnier]

Name of the Lord.

[Bowen Yang]

No, it's actually. They need to put it in a pop song. I think Lorde should do it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Lord should do it.

[Anna Hosnier]

I think they should do it with a mashup with Charli X's.

[Bowen Yang]

It should be on they're out album Virgin.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes, absolutely. Did you ever remember Sweet Redeemer? That song was a banger.

[Bowen Yang]

Give it to us.

[Anna Hosnier]

How'd it go? Sweet Redeemer I surrender all I am to you yeah, it was. Wow. It was wild.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But yeah, I used to sing it.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then I used to get in trouble by the priest because my, like, mentor in high school, two guys, Frank and Ed, who I fucking love still to this day, they would always like, make me just like, go off like American Idol style. And I was like, okay. And then the priest would be like, listen, son, this isn't American Idol. Stop singing like that. This is church. And I was like, okay. I was like, I'm not even going.

[Bowen Yang]

To wear, like an extended belt.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, I used to hold. I would hold things out. People would be like, yo, gay singing kid. That was so fierce today. And I'm like, thanks, man. That was so fierce today. And I was like, well, I'm actually not gay. And they're like, haha, sure. But yeah, I would just like, go off at Mass because I was like, I'm not Catholic. What is this? This is like fun, crazy music.

[Bowen Yang]

We're all just goofing off.

[Anna Hosnier]

We're goofing off. Yeah. At Chur.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But don't you love that you have the sort of pop star narrative of he gotta start singing in the church choir?

[Anna Hosnier]

In the church choir. I sure did. I mean, I sang in the church choir in Greek church too.

[Bowen Yang]

So like.

[Anna Hosnier]

But that was like, you know, hymns and shit. So that was.

[Bowen Yang]

Speaking of all these movies that we remember every line. Remember Sister Act 2, where there's that iconic scene where Lauryn Hill and her friend are singing. I sing because I'm happy. So then at the end they're singing and the one girl goes to the. Lauren Hill goes to the one girl. Girl, you could really make it. And she goes, this is for church.

[Anna Hosnier]

But when she was like, she was like. Or you clearly know that she has a better voice than Lauryn Hill. Sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, she literally sing.

[Anna Hosnier]

And then she was like, girl. She's like, I just can't. I can't get that. You have it. I can't get that low note. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no. This is.

[Bowen Yang]

This is for church.

[Anna Hosnier]

This is for church.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. You could really make it.

[Anna Hosnier]

You could really make it.

[Bowen Yang]

That movie is so special.

[Anna Hosnier]

Rita Marie Watkins, get your behind upstairs.

[Bowen Yang]

Get your nose out of the books.

[Anna Hosnier]

And your head in the clouds.

[Becca Ramos]

Aren't they making the third one?

[Constantine Rasooli]

What's the rumor on that?

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, so we need to sit Whoopi down in that chair. Actually, yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Whoopi needs to get here now.

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, why hasn't that happened?

[Anna Hosnier]

You guys need to get that immediately.

[Bowen Yang]

I bet we can.

[Constantine Rasooli]

In fact, I know we can.

[Bowen Yang]

By the way, Whoopi tore up the Met Gala.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah, she looks like that.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you see that?

[Anna Hosnier]

Can we talk about the fact Fashions.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, let's talk about.

[Anna Hosnier]

Because, you know, it's current.

[Bowen Yang]

Highlights.

[Anna Hosnier]

Highlights. Who? Let me have it.

[Bowen Yang]

Tiana.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Tiana.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Tiana Taylor.

[Anna Hosnier]

Tiana Taylor.

[Bowen Yang]

It was more in the best way. Janelle Monae, everything.

[Anna Hosnier]

Everything. Always, Period. Always. Bad Bunny looking like. Looking like the Scarecrow from the Wiz. And I was so here for it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yep. Absolutely.

[Anna Hosnier]

With a Michael Jackson glove. I was like, bitch, go off.

[Bowen Yang]

What did you feel about Zendaya and Anna Sawai being in the same look?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Was it the same?

[Anna Hosnier]

It was the exact same.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I don't know. I thought it was different takes on this. Okay. Yeah, but why?

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, you look at it side by side.

[Anna Hosnier]

I will. She can wear anything. I mean, Zendaya's the most stunning human in the world, but it reminded me of, like, you know, old Selene was that brand new look behind the backwards suit, which was iconic. But I'm like, okay, we've seen it. Let's maybe do something else.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Sure. Rihanna announcing baby number three.

[Anna Hosnier]

Rihanna baby number three.

[Bowen Yang]

Fully pregnant.

[Anna Hosnier]

Fully pregnant with zero fucks.

[Bowen Yang]

I said R9. More like R3. Oh, Rihanna, third birthday.

[Anna Hosnier]

Also, is that album actually going to happen?

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so.

[Anna Hosnier]

I hate that. I hate that. I hate hearing terrible, terrible.

[Bowen Yang]

I just don't. What the streets are saying is that she really just likes to smoke weed and watch housewives and do the fashion thing.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's what the Streets are saying, who among us?

[Anna Hosnier]

I mean, we're here for that. But also, I just need one more. Just give me one more.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Of course.

[Anna Hosnier]

One more.

[Constantine Rasooli]

To end on. Anti is pretty. Pretty cool.

[Bowen Yang]

Here's the thing. I don't think it's that she doesn't want to. I just think she feels she set a really high fucking bar with Anti. I also think she genuinely enjoys these other aspects of her life. And if it's coming, it is on her time, which is, as we know, late.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

The way she rolled up, she made everyone on that carpet wait 45 minutes after the last person to take her fucking picture.

[Anna Hosnier]

Unreal.

[Bowen Yang]

Good.

[Anna Hosnier]

Good. Unreal. Do we like Dua Lipa's look?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yes, I did like Dua Lipa's look. I liked Colman, obviously.

[Anna Hosnier]

Coleman can do no wrong.

[Bowen Yang]

Amazing.

[Anna Hosnier]

Coleman can do no wrong.

[Bowen Yang]

Also, shout out Hunter Schaefer.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Crushed.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

But always just the affection.

[Anna Hosnier]

And who else?

[Bowen Yang]

Lorde looked amazing too.

[Anna Hosnier]

Lorde looks amazing too.

[Bowen Yang]

Lord is like, really, I think, making like an. Like an announcement about their gender.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

I feel like.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Like it's saying they feel like a man and a woman and a woman.

[Anna Hosnier]

But also.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But not. But not.

[Becca Ramos]

But not.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Not like dropping the pronouns just yet.

[Bowen Yang]

Right. So I love the new song.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's great.

[Bowen Yang]

It grew on me. Like, the first time I heard it, I was like, oh, come on. And then, like, the second or third time I heard it, I was like, what was that?

[Anna Hosnier]

I love it. Miss it. I miss that crazy voice.

[Bowen Yang]

Me too.

[Anna Hosnier]

I miss that crazy voice.

[Bowen Yang]

I saw Charlie again at Barclays.

[Anna Hosnier]

Was it amazing? Yes. And full rain on stage. I was dead.

[Bowen Yang]

I think it's my third time in a month seeing her because both times at Coachella and then Bartlett, now this. And I saw sweat when the girl. So confusing. Lord verse comes on, it's like hosanna in the highest.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, I'm sure. No, no, it is.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's like sweet Redeemer.

[Anna Hosnier]

Sweet Redeemer.

[Bowen Yang]

It's Sweet redeemer.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

By the time she gets to.

[Anna Hosnier]

Is that awesome?

[Bowen Yang]

They say we still have the same hair. By the time that part is going, you're just like.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You're jumping.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, yeah. You're a full cardiac arrest.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. It's. It's so good. And guess. Let me tell you something about guess. And I told you this. Guess. People thought. And this is no disrespect to Rain on me by Ariana Grande and Lady Gaga. That is a classic. People thought that that was like, the female duet of our Time to rival Enough is enough. No more tears.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Donna Summer, Barbra Streisand. It's guess. Guess is so powerful.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Big statement.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

There's room for everything. I'm just saying the feeling that you get during guests.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

There's nothing like that.

[Anna Hosnier]

Also, I don't know if I told you this. Maybe I've told you this before on my, you know, world traveling extravaganzas. We went to the boiler room set in Ibiza. I was there with Armanas.

[Constantine Rasooli]

With Armanas.

[Anna Hosnier]

With Armanas. We were there. Armanas.

[Bowen Yang]

Saw Charlie XCX Spoiler rooms.

[Anna Hosnier]

We were there. I lost my mom's.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I bet you guys were rolling tits.

[Anna Hosnier]

I was so high. Yeah, it was cool. Crazy. I made out with some for you. Gorgeous, hot man from Ibiza. And I was like, cool, I'll never see you again. But also, let's make.

[Bowen Yang]

I love to do that. All around the world.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, same.

[Bowen Yang]

Just grab a man.

[Anna Hosnier]

Come over here. Get over here. Yeah, it was wild.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wow.

[Anna Hosnier]

Crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

That's like a historic.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's a historic moment. People were like, I still listen to that. And I'm like, I was there.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You were there.

[Anna Hosnier]

I can't believe it. I still can't believe it. Thanks. I mean, that was all Gus. Gus made it happen.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Thank God. To our girl. Our baby girl. Baby bride.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Baby bride.

[Anna Hosnier]

Baby bride. No, he's not married. But I just. That's like.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like breaking news.

[Anna Hosnier]

Breaking news. She's married.

[Bowen Yang]

Breaking gay news on a gay podcast.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes. Right here.

[Bowen Yang]

Kenworthy. A baby bride. More information.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, you're slaying the. The. The transitions into the news.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what they did tell me on today? They were like, you're so good at transitions. And I was like, that's actually. We're used to doing it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

We're used to doing it. They didn't tell me that.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, that's because they don't. They feel they don't need to, because you know it all the time, hear it all the time.

[Anna Hosnier]

I was.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I did slay. Are you doing Prompter wars, by the way?

[Bowen Yang]

I asked to do Prompter wars, and I don't think we're doing it because.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Tina just did it.

[Bowen Yang]

But I'm gonna ask again.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You need to do. I need to see you.

[Bowen Yang]

I want to do. Yeah, the teleprompter is so.

[Constantine Rasooli]

They do, like, tongue twisters on the teleprompter, and they go really, really fast. You're supposed to, like. It's like. It's like A battle with. With, like, Jenna and like, whoever else.

[Anna Hosnier]

Well, my dyslexia would really kick in hard.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what, though? Who's to say that's not what's on the board?

[Anna Hosnier]

So why do kids have fun? Let them.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Let them.

[Anna Hosnier]

Let em.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Bfgw. Big Fat Greek Wedding Wedding.

[Anna Hosnier]

Vfgw.

[Constantine Rasooli]

One of the great movies.

[Bowen Yang]

One of the great, I think a.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Comedy breakthrough moment for me was Andrea Martin talking about her. The lump on her neck. Yes. That is one of the funniest things in movie history. History.

[Anna Hosnier]

There was a spinal cord. Spinal cord and teeth.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I got a.

[Bowen Yang]

Inside. The lump was my twin.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Full set of teeth.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It was my twin. Like, this is.

[Bowen Yang]

Andrew Martin is so forever. It's not even fun.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I love that movie.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's so good.

[Bowen Yang]

It's good every single time. I remember I went with my Greek grandmother.

[Anna Hosnier]

Who's Greek on your mom's side or dad's side?

[Bowen Yang]

So this is the controversy.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, yeah. No one knows.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No, no, no. But have you heard this?

[Bowen Yang]

So I live my entire life thinking, like, almost 50% Greek. Like, that's kind of what the vibe is. Like, my mother's side of the family. Like, there's a lot of Greek there. In fact, we had even seen the movie. And my nana, who's now passed, she was like, this is my culture. I'm so happy they made a movie about this. And it was just a huge success, like it said. Etc. So then I think, like, two years ago, I do the 23andMe. Spit in the tube, send it in. Comes back 0.0% Greek, almost 40% Turkish.

[Constantine Rasooli]

But it's giving. Menstruation.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's giving Right next door.

[Bowen Yang]

Right next door. It's giving. Let's just call it a culture clash.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Grandma grew up in Greece, and my.

[Bowen Yang]

Mother'S maiden name is Claritas.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

So it's like they're Santa Claritus.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Santa Claritus diet. They're right. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But the Drew Barrymore hit show.

[Anna Hosnier]

Hit show.

[Bowen Yang]

Love you, Drew.

[Anna Hosnier]

I do love it, Drew.

[Bowen Yang]

I do. But, yeah, no, that was so. That was like. I was kind of like, thank God that she passed before she would have.

[Anna Hosnier]

Had a heart attack.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think she would have loved the news.

[Anna Hosnier]

Wouldn't have loved it.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Constantine Rasooli]

She is Greek. You are Greek, though, like that. You come from Greece.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. I mean, you're there, it's fine.

[Bowen Yang]

But then, so then I looked at a picture of, like, a Turkish person. I, like, Googled, like, Turkish man, and everything that came out was like, it was kind of like, I got it. I was like, yeah, I think I am.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You see it a little bit. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I'm saying?

[Anna Hosnier]

I mean, it's so. They're so close. It is what it is. Like, my father's village, where he grew up is like this tiny little place called Kastoria, which is right next to, you know, Albania and Turkey and everything. So it's like.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Do you speak it?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Oh, fluently.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Love.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

That was the best part. Part. A great part. Now knowing that you're like, okay, cool. We're past, like, Greek school and like, shit. That I had to go through my.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Whole life every Sunday.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, no, no. Every Tuesday and Thursday for three hours after American school. No. Yeah. Talk about then you having to study for American school, do your homework and then do Greek homework.

[Bowen Yang]

You can't watch crl.

[Anna Hosnier]

I had to tape it.

[Bowen Yang]

You had to tape it?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Tape it. Oh, we had to. We had to press record on a VCR for that. Anyway. Anyway.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, manually. I had to press it.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You had to press. Oh, wow, vhs.

[Bowen Yang]

I actually, this. Us talking about this makes me realize I do know my. I don't think so, honey.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Great.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, good. I think it's time.

[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

I think it's time for I don't think so honey. And this is going to be a throwback. It actually is applicable to all times, by the way. I don't think so Honey is our 60 second segment where we take a minute to rant rail and more against something in culture that deserves it. And I have that thing.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so honey. And his time starts now.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so honey. People who fast forward and cannot start it on time and like. And when it comes back from commercial, you've had years now to understand the timing on this and it happened back in the day and it's years and years and years because I'm saying it's not just the dvr. It's also rewind culture from VCR culture. You know, you hit the button to resume a little before. I hate going back, going forth, going back, going forth.

[Constantine Rasooli]

30 seconds.

[Bowen Yang]

I hate it. You know, when it's over, I guess you wouldn't know because you have to guess, but, like, develop your instincts, develop your internal clock, and then, like, just get it right. Like, I hate this. About 15 seconds. Fast forwarding through things. I would rather watch a commercial. Sorry. Fuck you. I don't think so, honey.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's one minute.

[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I don't think so, honey. Honey, what are the lotions of the world doing to help us in any situation?

[Anna Hosnier]

Like, why.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Why can't we have lotions that just work? I'm putting hand cream on and I still have cracked palms. I'm putting lip balm on. I'm still. Cracked lips. There's nothing, there's. My body is a sponge and there's nothing in the world that can actually hydrate me to its fullest potential. I think this is something that is. That is accelerating my age. I think this is something that I. 30 seconds, I can't stay on top of. And then it will. Eventually it will show in my hands. There are people out there, you know, the stars out there, who are aging from their hands first. And I think. I think I will be one of those people.

[Bowen Yang]

He'll be one of those stars.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I'll be one of those stars. You know who I'm talking about? You know who I'm talking about? Don't you know who I'm talking about?

[Bowen Yang]

Not really aging from their hands for Marlo.

[Anna Hosnier]

Five seconds. Sorry, Marlo.

[Constantine Rasooli]

That's actually great company B.

[Anna Hosnier]

And I would.

[Constantine Rasooli]

If I. I get any closer to being like Marlon Mandel, then you know what? You never help me anyway. Am I the only person who's like, what's the point?

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, let me see your gorgeous soft hair.

[Anna Hosnier]

First of all, look at this.

[Bowen Yang]

Look at how beautiful his hands are.

[Anna Hosnier]

Mine are. I have little baby hands, like T. Rex hands.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Gorgeous hands.

[Anna Hosnier]

Look how small these are.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Smaller hands. Smaller hands than you. You're cheating.

[Bowen Yang]

Isn't that small? Do I have the biggest hands here?

[Constantine Rasooli]

You have huge hands.

[Anna Hosnier]

That means you got a big dirt.

[Bowen Yang]

He goes, you have huge hands.

[Anna Hosnier]

What does that mean?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Big show up penis and toes.

[Bowen Yang]

That's what they say about the Greeks.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Show it now.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You know what I mean? Like, what's the point? I'm Saying what's. I just. I put on lotion today. I'm still dry.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Talking about, look at that, Bo. And no, you have a gorgeous bow. And no, you're luminous.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I just. I can't. I don't know what humidity means in terms of, like, how it affects my.

[Bowen Yang]

Body at this point, I feel like. I do think sometimes, like, with hand cream and stuff, it's like. I wonder if it's a little bit of, like, once you start using it, you need it more. And that, to me, makes it feel like a scam. Like, sometimes I've been using skincare.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's like, shitty lip gloss.

[Bowen Yang]

People will compliment me on my skin, and I'll be like, oh, I haven't used anything in weeks and months. And then I'll, like, break out. Or I'll have skin purging. Because I've been using, like, the best products.

[Anna Hosnier]

I don't do anything but put my face under hot water and burn.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Is that true?

[Bowen Yang]

Hot water?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I don't do anything but burn off my face.

[Anna Hosnier]

Burn off my face. No, I have cold water. I've. No. In the shower. I literally have. I mean, I have a. Like a washer. Washer.

[Bowen Yang]

You have beautiful skin.

[Anna Hosnier]

Well, because we're Greek, we have oily skin.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

Olive skin tones.

[Bowen Yang]

Like a motherfucker.

[Anna Hosnier]

Like a motherfucker. But I can get pasty as hell during the winter. Everyone's like, you okay? You sick?

[Bowen Yang]

The answer is no.

[Anna Hosnier]

And I'm like, yes, I am.

[Bowen Yang]

I have, like, gangrenous face, like, October through December.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. Green.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

That's disgusting.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No, that's not.

[Anna Hosnier]

But yeah, but then, like, I get, you know, go in that sun, and boom.

[Bowen Yang]

But then what? Because if you go in the sun too much, that's when.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, but that's when we're gonna get the Lindsay Lohan.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I know. I can't wait.

[Anna Hosnier]

Who do we have to. Who. We have to find out all this information. So if anybody has information about this.

[Bowen Yang]

Were you just about to say, who do we have to fuck to get to Lindsay Lohan?

[Anna Hosnier]

Who I have to fuck to get to Lindsay Lohan face? Jesus Christ. I am. I'm getting up there, and I want. I want to be revealed.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I don't think you.

[Bowen Yang]

If you out there, know who we have to fuck to get the Lindsay lohan face. Dial in 1-866-666-IDOLS03.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Connie, I don't think you.

[Anna Hosnier]

Idols03.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I think you. I think you, like, get into the. Get into the daddy identity.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay. We're Gonna get there.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You. I think out of anybody that I know has had the best twink. To twink death. To daddyhood.

[Anna Hosnier]

Honestly, I'll take it.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you remember your twink death?

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, it was.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like a little trauma.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, I do.

[Constantine Rasooli]

People are posting their twink death photos.

[Anna Hosnier]

The twink death was. I wanna say. When was that? Like, right? There's a picture of Hairspray on Broadway after, like, after we closed. And then I did Legally Blonde. Then something happened. I moved to la. And the twink death was really hot.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Beautiful.

[Anna Hosnier]

It was beautiful. And I was like, bye, girl. But it was wild.

[Bowen Yang]

The twink death is the return to Saturn. Yeah, it's roller culture number 17.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

The twink death is the return to Saturn. They coincide. Cause I remember mine was also when I moved to LA. 27, 28. I got to LA and was trying to do that thing, that twinkie thing of I tuck my ring or T shirt into my jeans and all of a sudden it was like, oh. Oh, that's not looking like it used to like. And then you're like, it's. Cause you're not a twink anymore.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. We all have to. Like a fine wine. Yeah, like a fine wine.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Fine wine.

[Bowen Yang]

All right, so listen, this is. Speaking of fine wine, we're about to have a fine. I don't think so. Eddie from Connie.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God, I'm nervous.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Don't be.

[Anna Hosnier]

Don't be. Go off.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm made for this.

[Anna Hosnier]

I am made for this.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you ever done this? Have you done a lot? We didn't know you back when we did live shows.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, no. This would have been one for the books.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Anna Hosnier]

Alive.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, bring it back.

[Bowen Yang]

That was. Honestly, maybe we should bring it back.

[Constantine Rasooli]

For, like a special big thing. I think it'd be very fun.

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe that's our Radio City show.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, yeah, you guys. 1,000%.

[Bowen Yang]

We don't have it booked anymore, but okay, so you want to know the tea? We had Radio City Music hall booked for the Culture Awards, but because we're doing it on Peacock, it's just like too, like.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It would have been too much money.

[Anna Hosnier]

Too many cooks in the kitchen. I get it.

[Bowen Yang]

So we're doing it in LA at the Orpheum, but we literally had a date for. It would have been next. We were doing it at Radio City Music hall. And now I'm thinking, let's do. I don't think so, honey.

[Constantine Rasooli]

At radio city with 50 people. I would love that.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God, that would be.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And there's. They can all fit on stage.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my God.

[Anna Hosnier]

They can all fit on stage. That stage is huge.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It's a humongous stage.

[Anna Hosnier]

And also, it's Radio City. It's the most iconic place in the world.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, you know, Giggly Squad sold it out twice. And I'm like, okay, so it's possible for two girls that have a podcast to do that.

[Anna Hosnier]

That's true.

[Constantine Rasooli]

We're almost.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, you guys are two fantastic girls.

[Bowen Yang]

Hey, thanks.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Wait a minute. We have one fantastic girl before us. He's about to do an end of the fantastic girl.

[Bowen Yang]

One fantastic girl stands before me. I only have one phone in my hands.

[Constantine Rasooli]

We have MA from Hermana's. We have Octavia Spencer.

[Anna Hosnier]

You have Octavia Spencer in Ma.

[Bowen Yang]

The best film of all time.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Best film of all time. Great Fire island movie.

[Anna Hosnier]

Honestly.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Put it on.

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm gonna put it on.

[Constantine Rasooli]

The summer.

[Anna Hosnier]

I'm. Put it on.

[Bowen Yang]

When are you going?

[Anna Hosnier]

I don't know. We have to figure out August. Should we all go together?

[Bowen Yang]

So August.

[Anna Hosnier]

Anybody want to give us a call?

[Bowen Yang]

Do we have something for August?

[Constantine Rasooli]

We have. We. We gave it up because we're going to P Town for a carnival. Wait, we gave it up because it's the same week as the P Town house?

[Anna Hosnier]

What about July?

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe I'll go to P Town. I have to decide.

[Anna Hosnier]

Let's just.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Well, we'll talk about that.

[Anna Hosnier]

We need to.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Yeah, we'll talk about that. We have to be there together.

[Anna Hosnier]

We have to. It's a must.

[Bowen Yang]

That would be so fun.

[Constantine Rasooli]

It'd be very, very fun. This is.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, my God. I don't think so, honey.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I can't wait for this.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, Jesus.

[Constantine Rasooli]

This is Constantine Razuli's. I don't think so honey's time starts now.

[Anna Hosnier]

Okay, you know what? I don't think so, honey. Being private on Instagram. Okay, we're gonna talk about this right now. Because if I see you DM me, and then I click on your fucking picture and that tiny little fucking picture, and there's nothing to go to, and you have 800 followers. What are you, a Quaker? You can't just be out in public. Then why are you on Instagram? I need you to share your life. Share everything. Sorry, I'm keeping it from my close friends and family.

[Constantine Rasooli]

What?

[Anna Hosnier]

The 200 people that you know? Why don't you fucking text them? I want to. I want to scan your pictures. I want to creep on you. I want to see exactly who you are. I want to hear Your voice. I want to get the fucking tea. Because if we're going to bone, I want to see if you're man enough.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Anna Hosnier]

It wasn't man enough for me. Also, best song ever. Meow Mix. I was. I don't know, the best mix in the world. 15 seconds. But like, seriously, I. And then I click on another picture and then it's like this gorgeous group of people and you. Fucking private. And we're never going to meet because you're never going to see my DM or my. Or the message. So it's a lost cause. Okay? So you can choke. Get that shit off. Private and fucking DM me. Thank you so much.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And that's one minute. You're so right.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Right. I don't know how people expect something to get going when it's like. All I can do is like, click your little. I can click that.

[Anna Hosnier]

And it doesn't even. Also when it's private. Another. I don't think so. It doesn't expand.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No, it doesn't expand. You go and see the.

[Anna Hosnier]

So.

[Bowen Yang]

And I'm not giving you the follow right away. No, I gotta see what I'm signing up for.

[Anna Hosnier]

I gotta do the creep of, like. I'm gonna, like, two pictures and then you're gonna see it because you're gonna scan.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You're gonna make me be the pick me when you're the pick me when you're.

[Anna Hosnier]

Exactly.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No way.

[Anna Hosnier]

No way.

[Bowen Yang]

First of all, just beware of the pick mes. Cause even if they seem cool, that's okay.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Oh, they are.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. They think they're so cool. I'm like, you're not cool.

[Bowen Yang]

I just.

[Anna Hosnier]

Because you're a private.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, no, shut up. Well, and also, here's thing. If you want. Whatever. If you want to be private, fine. You're being. I don't think so, but whatever. There's also this. And a lot of gays that I truly respect. These girls. They'll have a private profile, but then pretty much all of their stories will be close friends.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Right? Right.

[Bowen Yang]

So do that. Have like your little whatever. Like, it can be nothing.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

But then just like engage with. Cause you can also do grid Close Friends.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You can do Grid close Friends.

[Anna Hosnier]

Exactly.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Keep all the GRID hosts close friends. If you don't want anyone to see anything, literally.

[Bowen Yang]

But private is. I mean, in this context.

[Anna Hosnier]

Then don't. Then don't be on Instagram. Then don't be. Just. It's okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't be flirting. Don't be suggestive in the DMs. With a private person.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Exactly.

[Anna Hosnier]

How very dare you?

[Constantine Rasooli]

How very dare you?

[Anna Hosnier]

This is my.

[Constantine Rasooli]

This is not quite the same. That is very. This is all very justified. My original. I don't think so, Tony. Before I blanked on it and went to lotions because I saw a bottle of lotion right there.

[Bowen Yang]

Aveeno Daily. Oh, my God. That Aveeno give you the idea?

[Constantine Rasooli]

That Aveeno gave me the idea. Because I. I'm stroking.

[Anna Hosnier]

But the.

[Constantine Rasooli]

My original, I don't think so, honey, was if you're on a dating app and you have a LinkedIn, deprivate that because I gotta see what you do and where you went to school. Because it's.

[Anna Hosnier]

It's good information.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I'm not gonna judge you.

[Bowen Yang]

What sucks about LinkedIn, which I learned the hard way. People can see when you go look.

[Constantine Rasooli]

No, but you don't log in. No, you log off your LinkedIn, open a private browser, go to their LinkedIn and if it blocks you, if you have to log in, then you go, well, I'm not going that far. I'm not gonna to like have them see that I viewed their profile.

[Anna Hosnier]

But I just want to.

[Bowen Yang]

I hate that.

[Constantine Rasooli]

You know what I mean?

[Bowen Yang]

Because why can't I. Why can't I just like. I like to do a little stalking.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah. I like to creep in like a creepy crawler, as we like to call it.

[Bowen Yang]

A little online creepy crawly. And like love that when you get like fucking busted on by like.

[Anna Hosnier]

Oh, okay, I'm sorry. Wow.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I don't mind that.

[Anna Hosnier]

I would love a busted on.

[Bowen Yang]

I say that with Jenna Bush Hager tomorrow. You know when you get busted on, she's like, hey. Well, I could bust all over this episode.

[Anna Hosnier]

I love you guys.

[Bowen Yang]

This is so fun. We love you and adore you.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Day one. Love you. Does that make sense?

[Anna Hosnier]

Day five.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Day five.

[Bowen Yang]

Day five. Hate. Day six. Love a guy.

[Anna Hosnier]

Day six, maybe.

[Bowen Yang]

Day seven. So what?

[Anna Hosnier]

Who cares?

[Bowen Yang]

So what?

[Constantine Rasooli]

Who cares?

[Bowen Yang]

So what? Who cares? This has been fabulous. You're the best. Listen, June 3rd, he goes back in. June 15th, they all go out. Unless you make this undeniable, it must continue. You. You could not see a better show. And the good news for you, if you are international is Trump's not your president. And also you can probably see Titanique.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Paris.

[Anna Hosnier]

London, Australia.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Where in Australia? Sydney.

[Anna Hosnier]

Sydney.

[Constantine Rasooli]

Great town.

[Anna Hosnier]

And we're going to. We're going to Brazil in October, baby. Bom dia.

[Bowen Yang]

Like Lady Gaga.

[Constantine Rasooli]

2.5 million.

[Anna Hosnier]

Yeah, 2.5 million. That would.

[Constantine Rasooli]

I would love to see that.

[Anna Hosnier]

We're going to be in Sao Paulo, and then we're going to take a trip to Rio. So just maybe come. You guys should actually.

[Bowen Yang]

When?

[Anna Hosnier]

When?

[Bowen Yang]

When? When?

[Anna Hosnier]

October. Something Early October.

[Constantine Rasooli]

We're coming.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Anna Hosnier]

No, I know. There's like.

[Bowen Yang]

There's so much gay shit to talk about.

[Constantine Rasooli]

A lot of gay shit to talk about. A Celine song came on on my way here. I can't believe I didn't even tell you. I should be the song that we sing.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, let's go. I surrender I surrender everything to give a chance to live again I reach to you I know you can feel it too make it through a thousand dreams I still believe I pray you give them all to me I hold you in my arms and never let go I surrender.

[Anna Hosnier]

Wow.

[Constantine Rasooli]

To hear that song, go to Titanique. Closing June 15, maybe. Bye. Las Colgaritis is a production by Will Ferrell's Big money players in iHeartRadio podcasts.

[Bowen Yang]

Creating and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier.

[Constantine Rasooli]

And produced by Becca Ramos, edited and mixed by Doug Behm and Monique Laborde.

[Bowen Yang]

And our music is by Henry Kabirsky.

[Constantine Rasooli]

This is Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Constantine Rasooli]

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[Bowen Yang]

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