"Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)

Summary

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Episode: "Locked In" (w/ Tate McRae)
Release Date: February 26, 2025

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Introduction

In the "Locked In" episode of Las Culturistas, hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang welcome the multi-talented artist Tate McRae. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts, this episode delves deep into Tate's journey through dance and music, her songwriting process, and her experiences performing on mainstream platforms like Saturday Night Live (SNL).

Award Presentation and Initial Interaction

The episode kicks off with a humorous skit where Matt and Bowen present Tate with a 2024 Webby Award for Best Individual Episodic Comedy Episode. Despite Tate’s playful confusion about the award, the lighthearted moment sets a friendly and engaging tone for the conversation.

Bowen Yang [03:10]: "This is really good. So we were thinking that maybe our guest could present us with the award."

Tate McRae [03:19]: "Yeah, of course."

Tate McRae's Background

Dance Career Beginnings

Tate McRae shares her early life dedication to dance, highlighting her intense training from the age of eight. She discusses how ballet was a central part of her life, even contemplating a professional ballerina career in Berlin at just twelve years old.

Tate McRae [11:35]: "I started off as a dancer, so trained super intensely since I was eight years old. Like, 40 hours a week."

Transition to Music and Songwriting

An unexpected turn occurs when Tate's YouTube channel is derailed by a broken camera, leading her to lock herself in her bedroom to write her first song, "Broke Me First". This pivotal moment marks her entry into the music industry, where she receives immediate attention from record labels.

Matt Rogers [13:30]: "I was locked in for two hours, you wrote a song. I was locked in."

Fusion of Dance and Singing

Tate discusses the initial compartmentalization of her dance and singing careers during the COVID-19 pandemic. As her music career gains momentum, she realizes the importance of blending both disciplines to fully express her artistry.

Tate McRae [14:20]: "So I just never knew how to connect the dots. I was just like, this will be one side of me, and then the other side of me is just a thing of the past."

Songwriting Process and Collaborations

Collaborating with Amy Allen, Julia Michaels, and others, Tate describes her songwriting sessions as dynamic and emotionally driven. She emphasizes the difficulty of balancing personal emotions with creating universally relatable music.

Matt Rogers [23:30]: "Yeah, it's very inspiring. Thinking about tour and thinking about performances while you're writing, it has to be."

SNL Experience

Tate recounts her memorable performance on SNL, where she executed a dance break that left both the hosts and the audience in awe. She describes the challenge of performing choreography in a confined stage space with peculiar acoustics.

Tate McRae [16:17]: "It feels like on that stage is so small that, like, doing a dance break, I was like, is this kind of weird?"

Tour Experiences and Plans

Discussing her upcoming tour, Tate expresses excitement about performing in iconic venues like the Forum and Madison Square Garden. She shares experiences from touring in Tokyo, highlighting unique cultural interactions and memorable performances.

Tate McRae [67:07]: "We've been all the edits all the edits everyone was like, oh, this is great. It was like beige. And the final edit was like so realistic."

Personal Insights and Alter Ego

Tate introduces her alter ego, Tatiana, a persona she embodies during performances to channel her energy and persona on stage. This separation allows her to deliver dynamic performances while maintaining her authentic self offstage.

Tate McRae [64:17]: "I call her Tatiana. And it's just when I go on stage, I black out. Like, I don't actually remember that much. You just, like, perform."

Reflection on Fame and Public Perception

Tate reflects on the duality of her public image as both a dancer and a singer. She addresses the challenges of public perception, where fans often recognize her for one aspect of her talent but may overlook the other.

Tate McRae [25:28]: "Like, these lyrics are great and you're such a great writer. Thank you."

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a fun segment where Matt, Bowen, and Tate engage in playful banter about dance choreography and cultural trends, reinforcing the camaraderie and light-hearted spirit of the show. Tate encourages listeners to embrace their passions and balance different facets of their identities.

Tate McRae [90:35]: "I have had this frustration I've had with CarPlay in my car."

Notable Quotes

• Tate McRae [05:19]: "Listen to the album out February 21st. Please welcome into your ears Tate McRae."

• Matt Rogers [14:21]: "I think you've merged both sides of your creativity."

• Tate McRae [24:34]: "It's the way that comes into the songwriting room that just change it for me."

• Matt Rogers [42:35]: "Is there the pressure every time to go in there and, like, write a hit?"

• Tate McRae [44:49]: "Singles happen for a reason. I think they make sense and the album will make it all come together."

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This episode offers an intimate look into Tate McRae's artistic journey, her dedication to both dance and music, and the ongoing evolution of her career. Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang ensure that listeners are both entertained and informed, making "Locked In" a must-listen for fans of contemporary pop culture and music.

Transcript

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Goodness.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow. Los Culturistas Ding dong Lost Culturista's calling. It's a big day. We've sang our guest song in front of her already.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, cause I first heard about the truly seminal superb. I was gonna say superior single two hands through you because you were saying in the group chat. Ooh, two hands just came on in the coffee shop. And I couldn't help it.

[Matt Rogers]

It was a shoulder shaker in the coffee shop.

[Bowen Yang]

What did you say? Like, you caught yourself, like, just gyrating. You were gyrating Giving Tate. You were giving Tate in the coffee shop.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, listen, it's one of those. It doesn't really matter who's around.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what I'm saying?

[Bowen Yang]

Just. We haven't acknowledged this. This is. And we're not like, big dogging in front of our guests or anything, but we. This is our first time we've seen our Webby Award. 2024 Webby Award winner, Best podcast Individual episodes comedy.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, this is really good. So we were. We were thinking that maybe our guest could present us with the award.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Tate McRae, would you give us our Webby Award?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, of course. What's a Webby?

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, so Webby award is if you do anything on the Internet, like post or comment.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You know, you might get nominated.

[Matt Rogers]

You could get nominated for a Webby. Anyone with any online activity is sort of up for this.

[Tate McRae]

Wow. I know.

[Matt Rogers]

This is best individual episodic comedy episode.

[Tate McRae]

Congratulations.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you so much. And so, like, we're just kind of in our chairs.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

So I guess the ceremony.

[Matt Rogers]

Just pretend you're opening an envelope. Well, we're nervous.

[Tate McRae]

The 2024 Webby Award winner goes to. Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Oh, my God.

[Matt Rogers]

To get this from Tate McRae.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you, Tate.

[Tate McRae]

Congratulations, guys.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God. Do you have a speech prepared?

[Bowen Yang]

No, you.

[Matt Rogers]

I just want to thank Tate McRae for gifting us with this. We couldn't have got it from someone that's more important to culture at this moment. And this is gonna dovetail into our intro. So close to what we are in the. So close to what era.

[Bowen Yang]

We're in the. So close to what? We're in the Miss Possessive era. Mispossessive tour era, as it were.

[Matt Rogers]

And we've been in the era.

[Bowen Yang]

We've been in the era. Okay. I think by the time this episode comes out, we. We. We've gotten to listen to the album. Early album comes out February 21st. Hitting tour starts March 18th.

[Matt Rogers]

Even a Pisces season tour.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a Pisces season tour. No, I think it's just after Pisces.

[Matt Rogers]

We'll talk about it right after.

[Bowen Yang]

We gotta talk about your. Your signs and.

[Tate McRae]

Please, we gotta talk about your stuff.

[Bowen Yang]

There's.

[Tate McRae]

Read me. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

We bring out the tarot cards. We don't know shit.

[Bowen Yang]

She is someone who we've spoken about on this podcast is an equally balanced three header. Just three hyphenate. I guess it's two hyphens, but it's three titles. Singer, songwriter, dancer, all three. She's truly incredible. The album hadn't come out. Think later. It hadn't come out when you were on snl, right?

[Tate McRae]

No, I was still making it.

[Bowen Yang]

You were still making it?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I'd heard. Greedy obviously had heard. You broke me first. I was like, I like this take. Oh, the first time I heard Tate was on. You was on Troy's track. Great song, great song. And then she comes on snl and then this. It's whatever. We'll bring her in first. And then I want to. I just want to tell you about this moment because it was truly an earth shaking moment for everybody at snl.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

But we love her so much. Listen to the album out February 21st. Please welcome into your ears Tay McRae.

[Matt Rogers]

Thank you for putting up with our bullshit and giving us our award.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you for having me. I didn't know. I didn't know when to come in. I was like, did I sit back?

[Matt Rogers]

We actually do. We do that intro for everyone and it's actually since we've started doing video, people get really upset because they see the person sitting there. It's sort of like. It's not just like.

[Tate McRae]

I felt like it was like a closed conversation.

[Matt Rogers]

It was a closed conversation. Everyone, the tots are going to be out there being like, why the fuck are they wasting her time? But never, no, we'll never do that again.

[Tate McRae]

They'll be fine.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, they're sweet.

[Tate McRae]

They're sweet.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. To, like, sort of create a really nice fan community. Has to feel good.

[Tate McRae]

It does.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, they're great.

[Bowen Yang]

Feels not the exception to the rule. Feels like every fandom is, like a little bit mean and they're terrifying.

[Tate McRae]

All Stans, I think, are a little terrifying.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

How do we get here?

[Matt Rogers]

Were you ever a terrifying stand for someone? When did you get closest?

[Tate McRae]

I honestly, I think, like, the closest, like, fangirl I've been is like, to Ariana Grande.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like, I've just been obsessed with her for a very long time and I. Yeah, she's like the closest I think I've gotten. And then maybe like Rihanna, like. Yeah, I feel like those two are like the girls that I'll like, die for.

[Bowen Yang]

Arianator and Navy. But, like, because this is the thing, like, I'm sure the Britney comparisons are, like, flattering, but at the same time, you were like a zygote when she was like out there, like, already very popular.

[Matt Rogers]

I was thinking about that, like, a lot of the millennial gays are like, it's Britney 2.0. Like, get on board. And I'm like, I wonder how you feel about that, because she wasn't. It wasn't like, us. Where was, like, we remember when Britney came out.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I think comparisons are just hard because, yeah, like, obviously every person that comes onto the scene, they instantly get a comparison people just, like, familiarity.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

But I think it's just hard because, like, you can't create, like, recreate great art like that. Like, it's a new thing.

[Bowen Yang]

I bring this up. Not to, like, reiterate this, but I'm just saying, like, you Stan art, because that is your generation of, like, coming up, watching Nickelodeon, being like, oh, my God, I love her. You know what I mean? And it wasn't necessarily Britney at the time, because you were, like, still, like.

[Tate McRae]

Like a baby. Zero.

[Matt Rogers]

A true baby.

[Bowen Yang]

Totally.

[Tate McRae]

Literally zero years old.

[Bowen Yang]

Baby vibes.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you miss being a baby?

[Tate McRae]

A little bit.

[Matt Rogers]

I want to be a baby.

[Tate McRae]

I want to be a baby that naive was, like, being that naive is. Is a nice feeling.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I kind of want to be an iPad baby more than anything else, but I. Why is that just a baby that's on the iPad.

[Tate McRae]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

And they're in heaven, but their brains are.

[Tate McRae]

They are frying.

[Matt Rogers]

They're frying in front like a baby that just can't absolutely slay a device.

[Tate McRae]

I think that's most babies nowadays.

[Bowen Yang]

It's crazy.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Tate, do you think the slutty glasses are the accessory of the year?

[Tate McRae]

The little. These ones.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you know the one, like, everyone wears. As someone who's not wearing these, the slutty glasses are not the slutty glasses. But I'm saying everyone's wearing the slutty glasses now, and I feel like you really pushed that forward in a huge way and really so proud. Yes.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you. I love a slutty glass. Like, I think it's really nice.

[Bowen Yang]

Right. Why are you wearing them now?

[Tate McRae]

I didn't think it really fit. The fit. The fit. Today's a classy day.

[Matt Rogers]

Today's not a slutty day.

[Tate McRae]

Today's not a slutty day. Yeah, it's a classy day.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, thank you for classing it up.

[Tate McRae]

Of course.

[Matt Rogers]

Have you met Ariana yet?

[Tate McRae]

No, I haven't. Really?

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, let's.

[Matt Rogers]

We'll call her.

[Tate McRae]

Please, Please. Great.

[Bowen Yang]

You have a favorite.

[Matt Rogers]

Ari era.

[Tate McRae]

I mean, Dangerous Woman was like. Yeah, Was like, my shit. I Just think that into youo is, like, the best pop song ever created.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you gone on record to say this before?

[Tate McRae]

Because I actually don't think so.

[Bowen Yang]

This is. This can unite. This can heal the nation's wounds.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Because we can all agree across generations that into youo is one of the best pop songs ever written.

[Tate McRae]

I truly think it is one of the best of all times. And I think it, like, didn't at first, like, get the recognition that it deserves. No, I do think it was actually pop perfection. And I remember talking to Ilya about it, who, like, produced the song, and he was like, we crafted it over such a long time. Yeah, that lynching chorus is insane. Yeah, yeah, it's a perfect song. So I think Dangerous Woman was, like, my favorite. There's also just, like, little album cuts that, when I was younger were just like, my shit, just, like, in the car, really feeling them, like, thinking about you. And I love thinking about you and Touch it are just, like, inside.

[Matt Rogers]

I was going to say touch it. I almost feel like because into youo looms so large and people talk about that song even though it, like, was a single and people agree it didn't get the shine. The song that gets lost is Touch It.

[Tate McRae]

I fully agree.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

It's so good.

[Tate McRae]

Crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

Those hooks. Crazy. Wait, Ilya was. It's okay. I'm okay. So talk about that. It's the first time working with him, right?

[Tate McRae]

I've worked with him a couple.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, he did stuff on the last album. He.

[Tate McRae]

I've worked with him like, a couple times, but we haven't released that many records together. I write all the time.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tate McRae]

But this was, like, one of my first. First ones I wrote with him.

[Matt Rogers]

When I first became, like, super aware of you was, you broke me first. And do you want to know why? It's because I was scrolling and Kelly Clarkson had covered you Broke Me first on her show. And I remember she did, like, a different arrangement of it. Like, she did like a more like.

[Tate McRae]

Like, I guess, Kelly Clarkson rendition.

[Matt Rogers]

Kelly Clarkson rendition of it. But the lyrics were jumping and I was like, I get why she picked this song because the lyrics are great and you're such a great writer. Thank you. And I feel like sometimes in the dance of it all, like, when you see someone, like, slaying as hard and executing on such a level as you are, people aren't realizing that there's real writing going on. Have you been doing that since before you started taking dance as seriously? Or was it always equal passion or Is that something that you discovered when you realized recorded music could be a thing?

[Tate McRae]

Well, I started off as a dancer, so trained super intensely since I was eight years old. Like, 40 hours a week. Like, wow. I was at a ballet school.

[Bowen Yang]

I was gonna say your ballet trained. That's intense.

[Tate McRae]

Like, six hours of ballet a day. Like, very intense. At one point, I, like, literally went to Berlin to become a ballerina. Like, wow. And then I was like, this isn't for me.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Because it was so difficult.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I mean, I was 12 at the time. I was, like, competing in ballet. Like, I was just like, I need to. I was so creative. I just needed to, like, not do the same thing every day.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And then it was. Are you thinking you could dance after that?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I did. So you think you dance at age 13? And then when I was 13, so, yeah, I was competing my whole life. Dance was, like, everything to me. I was like, this is the only thing I'm gonna do in my life is dance. And then I went on so youo Think youk Can Dance and moved to LA for two and a half months and then got back home to Calgary. And I was. I was just like, I am so bored. Like, I was just on tv.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

You came third place.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, it was. It was a really crazy two and a half months.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, but you were in it till the bitter end.

[Tate McRae]

We were into the end, and I was, like, the only Canadian on this, like, American Voted show. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Right. Which is kind of impressive to place third.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, it was. It was weird. Like, none of my friends or family could, like, vote in the show. I'm like, well, fuck, this sucks. But, yeah, so I got home and I started this YouTube channel, and I was like, I'm gonna choreograph dances every week and post them every Friday and post them on YouTube. And then one day, my camera broke and I was like, fuck. My camera broke. Like, this is ruined. Like, my Friday posting isn't happening. So then I locked myself in my bedroom, and I was just like, I'm just gonna write a song. And so I taught myself how to play the chords of Tequila by Dan and Shay.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Great.

[Matt Rogers]

One.

[Tate McRae]

Great song. Wow. And I started playing these, like, C chords and then wrote this song in, like, two hours and then showed my parents, and they were like, absolutely not. You cannot, like, put this on the Internet, because they're just like, this is, like, not good. Like, they didn't get it at the time.

[Bowen Yang]

But you were in the zone. You were locked the fuck in. I was locked in for two hours, you wrote a song. I was locked in.

[Tate McRae]

They were like, can you please shut up? I was singing so much, and then, like, blew up overnight and just became that song. That song blew up overnight. Like, got called by, like, 14 record labels within, like, two weeks. And then all of a sudden, like, I was like, okay, maybe I should, like, start songwriting more.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But I feel like there was a time when dance got kind of compartmentalized into something else, and then you merged the two. Right.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. So then after, eventually, when I released, you'd broke me first. At age 16, I was still in high school, finishing homeschooling and finishing everything, and then doing dance on one side and then singing on the other side. My career started to, like, pick up a little bit, and. But I was stuck at home in Covid. So I started this, like, singing career, but I was like, dance is just so separate. Like, this isn't a thing that should be mixed. Like, So I just never knew how to connect the dots. I was just like, this will be the one side of me, and then the other side of me is just a thing of the past. Right. And then obviously, as I grew up, like, 17, 18, 19, I was just like, something is, like, really missing. And then I ended up, like, being, like, I want to do pop more intensely. And. Yeah. And so then I feel like I've, like, finally found a perfect mesh of, like, dance and singing.

[Bowen Yang]

So what happened at SNL was you came in on Thursday.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. What happened? I want to know your perspective.

[Bowen Yang]

It's just we. Because we get the feed. The camera feed upstairs on the 17th floor. As we're writing and doing rewrites for the week, it was Jason Momoa as your host. Yeah. That was a fun show.

[Tate McRae]

It was fun.

[Bowen Yang]

He was, like, giving everybody his, like, new vodka. Did he give you a bottle of.

[Tate McRae]

Vodka, by the way?

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. Thank God. Because you were a minor.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But you were on the bleachers. You were doing greedy.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And everyone was like. It reminded me of when we. When BTS came and, like, they were doing their dances, and everyone was like.

[Tate McRae]

Ah, my God, something's happening.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, something about dance on that stage is really, really powerful.

[Tate McRae]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

And you were doing it, like, throwing your.

[Matt Rogers]

I love.

[Tate McRae]

I was going crazy because.

[Bowen Yang]

And this is a crazy comparison, but I've been watching, like, old Jackie Chan movies, and, like, that man uses his body like a fucking Swiss army knife. And you were doing the same. I was like. You were.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Going off, and we were all screaming and with joy being like, this Girl is amazing. And it was this moment on the. In the writers room where we were all like, we're just freaking out over you.

[Tate McRae]

Really? I was so nervous.

[Matt Rogers]

I would imagine.

[Tate McRae]

It also just feels like on that stage is so small that, like, doing a dance break, I was like, is this kind of weird? Like, I didn't know. I really. I really didn't know because I was just like, oh, my God. Is this, like, a little extra to like, be doing a full dance break on, like, a little box?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, but. But I get. Because it is so much smaller than you think, when you go in there, you're like, wait, this is the whole asset.

[Tate McRae]

And also, the sound in there is very, like, it's weird.

[Bowen Yang]

The acoustics are weird.

[Tate McRae]

It's just a little empty sounding. Like it's, like, full, but then also empty in a way. Like, I could hear every sneaker. Like, that's so crazy to think about. Crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, because it's like, basically like, we call them the bleachers, as it were. But it's like a mezzanine, and it's wide. And then the floor audience is, like, to your left.

[Tate McRae]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

And so you're performing this way, but most of the audience is, like, in this concentration. And it's just.

[Tate McRae]

You're not really performing to the audience.

[Bowen Yang]

No. Or to the cameras, in a way. It's hard to parse it out. But did the experience on a TV show help with that before, or.

[Tate McRae]

No, I think so, yeah. The weird part about dancing and singing is when I was a dancer, I used to hold all my nerves in my throat.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

And then I could just cough on stage and no one would hear me because the music was loud.

[Bowen Yang]

You're an asthma legend.

[Tate McRae]

I'm an asthma legend. So that's a crazy title of asthma legend.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you embrace it, or did I say something insane?

[Tate McRae]

No, I do embrace it.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I mean, it's stuck with me.

[Matt Rogers]

You've had to embrace it.

[Tate McRae]

I had to. Yeah, of course.

[Matt Rogers]

I've heard you.

[Bowen Yang]

I've just heard you talk about your inhaler.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I do. I embrace it.

[Bowen Yang]

You. You. You must. There's no choice but to embrace.

[Tate McRae]

Right. Because it's there.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

It's about a high school girls soccer team who gets stranded in the woods after their plane crashes and need to do some pretty crazy stuff to survive.

[Bowen Yang]

This season their mental states begin to fracture and normal teenage girl drama is elevated by life and death circumstances. Fast forward to adulthood and everything they did in the wilderness seems to be coming back to hunt them.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the perfect mashup of horror, mystery, suspense and laughs with an absolute star studded cast. I'm talking friend of the show, Melanie Lynskey, Tawny Cypress, Lauren Ambrose, Simone Cassel. Special guests Elijah Wood and Hillary Swank. With Christina Ricci and more. Plus, this season promises to answer so many burning questions.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't miss the new season of yellow jackets now streaming on the Paramount plus with Showtime plan.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

Book now@virgin voyages.com or contact your travel advisor. Is Greedy the song that changed everything? Yes.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I think you broke me. First changed like a little bit. And then Grady, I think changed. Just like the way people like maybe looked at me.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

Just because they didn't know I danced that part.

[Matt Rogers]

That's. I guess what I mean is it's like when I say changed everything, I'm specifically talking about like the way that you fuse both sides of your creativity. Yeah, because honestly, when I heard you broke Me first. It would never have crossed my mind that you were not only a dancer, but the best dancer. Then when I found out, you know, she came from. So you think you could dance? I was like, huh? Because it really doesn't.

[Tate McRae]

It's the polar opposite. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

So polar opposite. And so then you make this decision, and is it greedy a song that unlocked things, or was it like that, just the single in that group of things?

[Tate McRae]

I think it unlocked a lot for me. I think figuring out how to write over a beat that I would actually dance to was like, mission impossible for me. I was just like, I write ballads, and I know how to write over piano and chords and things that make me feel things. And then I basically just had to train myself to write over beats.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

It's hard. It's just, like, good learning how to do something.

[Bowen Yang]

Even the style of songwriting is changing because you've also said that, like, you like doing your set of chords, but now it's like, songwriting now is, like, it's got to take a weird little turn.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Unpredictable.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Is it hard to keep up with?

[Tate McRae]

I mean. Yeah, I think you're. It's just times are different now. Like, I used to write songs for my middle school and high school emotional self.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And that was just, like, my form of expression and very therapeutic for me. And now it's, like, my career. So it feels like now I envision it on tour. I envision it, like, I think there's just, like, way more components that come into the songwriting room that just change it for me. And that's, like, very inspiring. Thinking about tour and thinking about performances while you're writing, it has to be.

[Matt Rogers]

Because I would imagine, like, will you break it down and, like, do, like, not to reveal what you're going to be doing, but, like, will you give an acoustic set? Like, is that something that excites you?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I love acoustic sets, too.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Because then it feels like that full side of me that, you know, isn't, like, the right one I usually do.

[Matt Rogers]

On stage, because you would imagine that it's like. Like I'm someone that knew you from. You broke me first. And what struck me at first, because I wasn't even hearing you sing it. I was hearing Kelly sing it. I was like, these lyrics are great. And also for that to be one of your early songs, it's kind of complicated that, like, it's like. It's kind of, like, complicated.

[Tate McRae]

It is.

[Matt Rogers]

So the songwriting jumped out to me first, and then. But. But probably the world first, like, heard you on Greedy and, like, knows you as a dancer. So this probably people. Most people don't know that you're going to give the songwriting depth that you're going to give. So that's going to be exciting for people to discover at the show.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I think my. My real fans know that sometimes it is difficult because people only see, like, me doing a dance break online and they'll be like, she never sings. Like, me, I'm singing this whole. I've been singing, I've been singing, and sometimes they just like, they only see the dance break. So then I'm just like, oh. Like, oh. It's sometimes like, you need to watch the whole show. You don't know. You don't know the whole picture.

[Bowen Yang]

I think. I think the rollout for this album has been like, mission accomplished. It's like. It's like it is all living in the same space.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you.

[Bowen Yang]

Because, like, it's okay. I'm okay. Like, the first time I saw it, I was like, oh, my God, she's.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. He was like, getting arrested. She sits out getting arrested. Like, I was like, it's a pop moment.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a pop moment. And then we went there and then two hands. I'm like, this is. This is the best thing I've ever seen.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it's really great.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you have a car thing?

[Tate McRae]

It was mostly just because I feel like the album was like a lot of it just was around, like, these road visuals. Every time that I would, like, write a song, I would just envision, like a never ending road. And maybe that was because I was literally on the road all year and like, felt like things were never ending.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

But I had that, like, constant visual in my head. So I heard two hands. I was like, we could do a video like this. That could be really sick.

[Matt Rogers]

It's gas station.

[Tate McRae]

And then Sports car just happened to be.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Named sports car.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Okay. You literally. You're saying tour felt never ending. You just finished.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You're about to go back.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

How does that sit with you?

[Tate McRae]

I mean, luckily, I love tour.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I think it's very fun. This is also my first time doing arenas.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

I was gonna say.

[Tate McRae]

Which has been like a lifelong dream of mine. So I'm very, like, excited for that.

[Matt Rogers]

You have to be.

[Tate McRae]

It's like, feels like a new chapter. I also, as a dancer, I feel like you are just used to just like, never stopping.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, I get that. So the pace of life is. It will be daunting for anyone, but it's something that you're accustomed to.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I think so as a dancer.

[Bowen Yang]

Because the ballet training is, like, you might as well be living in, like, a nunnery that's, like, so disciplined.

[Tate McRae]

It is. It's crazy. It's exhausting, honestly, that ballerinas. I think I have, like, one of the hardest jobs in the world.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

This is easier.

[Tate McRae]

Sometimes being a pop star feels a little easier in some way. Like, a little bit, like, a little more relaxing.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you find that you can connect with, like, other pop girls? Like, because I would, like. Because it sounds like, of course, for fans being, like, oh, like, they think about the pop girly thing and, like, you know, there's that discussion, obviously, about, like, Charlie and Lord and, like, them bridging the gap and everything. How have you felt? It's been, like, entering that lexicon of people. You know what I mean?

[Tate McRae]

Of pop girls. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

You feel like there's support and it's cool.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I mean, we, luckily, I think right now are in a time of just, like, there's so much hate on the Internet and so much hate in the world that, like, internally, it's just, like, very supportive. The most supportive. And all we want to do is see each other win.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like, all my friends and I, we just have very wholesome relationships.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

Anytime we hang out, it's just very wholesome. I think that's very lucky right now because it is, like, we all know how much we get, like, beat up on the Internet, so it's, like, nice to have friends that, like, are actually.

[Matt Rogers]

Real demonic outside your, like, little cookie circle.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. Should we knit? Like, it's literally, like, very sweet.

[Bowen Yang]

Because the only thing you guys have in common is that you are getting insane energy from the Internet.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That is the only thing you guys.

[Matt Rogers]

Well. And that they do music.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But, like, because of, like, in that circumstance. You know what I mean? Like, that is, like, that's the thing.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, it is. It is weird. It is weird because sometimes, like, you're just like, I just started writing for fun. And then. Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. And then it becomes this thing.

[Tate McRae]

It becomes huge. You're like, whoa. Like, you don't expect to get. We know that you're, like, meant to be judged and music is subjective, but you never expect, like, the personal attacks.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a war that breaks out.

[Tate McRae]

You're like, oh, this is a huge deal for no reason.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

And that is crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

Was Amy Allen. She was on Think later, too. Or you guys were working together even before that. Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I started working with her on Think later and this album and this album.

[Bowen Yang]

I feel like she's getting this, like, shine now because of the Grammy.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Judy Swan and, like, like, working through you and, like, Sabrina, it's like, talk about that process because it seems like you two are very keyed into each other in terms of, like, the work ethic.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I mean, Amy Allen is one of the most talented songwriters I've ever met in my life. She's so incredible. Such a badass girl. I worked with her and Julia Michaels a lot on this album. I think it's just interesting. Like, no one understands a girl perspective quite like another girl. So, like, you can have other producers in the room, but it's just like, she gets it. Like, I can kind of just, like, say, this is happening with my boyfriend, and she'll be like, oh, my God. Exactly the same. And it's easier to, like, put into words. Yeah, totally. But it is. It's very inspiring. We have two different, like, processes in songwriting and obviously different perspectives because we're just have grown up differently. So it's. It's been really fun. I just feel like I get new knowledge every time I work with her.

[Matt Rogers]

So when you guys are together, is it like she hops on keys and, like, what is it?

[Tate McRae]

Like, what is jam stuff?

[Matt Rogers]

No, no. I'm literally, like, sometimes when I see these people, like, I just wonder, like, who actually plays in the room? You know what I mean? The process to me is, what's so interesting?

[Tate McRae]

Okay, well, it kind of depends. So if I'm in the studio alone and I'm just writing on my own, someone will play chords or whatever, and I'll, like, sit in the corner for, like, a couple hours, right. Go into the studio track, and that's it. If I'm with, like, a co writer, like an Amy or a Julia or Ryan, usually will start a beat or whatever. We'll kind of get, like, the vibe for the song, then we'll discuss what the song is about. I saw you both need to be on the same page.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

You're working towards the same goal.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

And then it usually just becomes like this, like, you find the magic at some point of what the song is and what you both relate on, and then you kind of just like, spit back and forth, like, different lyrics back and forth and until the song is, like, built, so.

[Matt Rogers]

But a lot of times it, like, starting with a beat and a track, and then, like, a feeling develops around it.

[Tate McRae]

For sure.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Cool.

[Bowen Yang]

Is there a preference on a style? Is it, like, Is solo. Because speaking. I mean, this is not quite the same thing. Like, I always prefer writing with people.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

When it comes to, like, you know, comedy or show or scripts or whatever, it's like, I've learned to, like, not feel so bad about, like, oh, I don't do so well on my own. But, like, do you have one preference?

[Tate McRae]

It's honestly just different. Like, you. Other people have different strengths. Like, Ryan Tedder is so good at a pop chorus. Like, and that is his strength.

[Bowen Yang]

Calling card.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

So I'm just like, God, if I'm, like, melodically. Yeah. Like, if I want to walk into a room and I want to write a pop song, like Ryan, Amy, those are, like, pop choruses that, like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

Usually. Right. The first thing they sing is, like, feels really good. But if I'm writing something that I feel like is hard to communicate, like, sometimes I feel like I can't really. I have a hard time discussing my emotions.

[Bowen Yang]

Totally.

[Tate McRae]

So explaining it to someone is really even more complicated. So what I do is I need to be alone. I need to, like, have my subconscious thoughts, like, spit it out for me.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And then I can, like, find perspective on the situation, the relationship. Because I just really am not great at communicating. And that's, like, why I started writing in the first place, so. But if I have, like, a concept, it's less deep. Deep, deep in the back of your head, then it's. It's fine with another person.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Because either way, you're just making sense of what the song is about.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Whether it's just you needing to, like, spill it out, like, spill for a couple hours. Or that you're, like, reconvening with Ryan and Amy and Julia to be like, what is this gonna be?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

It's the same destination.

[Tate McRae]

And there's a lot of times where concepts are really obvious, and they're like, oh, this is what I need to write about. Whatever. And then there's a lot of times where you can only find perspective at the end of the process because then you figure out what you actually meant, and that just takes a lot of digging. Like, and that's where I need to be alone. But. But, like, if. If it is an obvious, like, concept, and it. It's just like, a. Something that is happening in my everyday life. There's some things that are sometimes, like, buried so deep that you're just like, I don't even know where this came from.

[Bowen Yang]

What's an example of an obvious concept on. On the album?

[Tate McRae]

I would say an obvious concept Like a song called Signs.

[Matt Rogers]

We both said that was one of our favorites.

[Tate McRae]

Signs is like the most obvious because I'm like, okay, can you please fucking read my mind? You need to just like do better. Yeah. You need to be able to read me.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

If this is going to move forward, I shouldn't have to do anything.

[Tate McRae]

No, literally, you should just know already. I get it. You should know already. So this was me and Amy walking in. It was a five minute combo, being like, literally read my mind. And then we started writing the song. So that was very obvious. Quick conversation, nothing too deep. I would say a song like Purple Lace Bra.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Took a second to like, it was me writing some concepts on my own and then came into the room and I cracked it with Amy. Cause I had an idea and she helped me, like, shape it a little bit.

[Bowen Yang]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tate McRae]

So that one was like a little less obvious.

[Matt Rogers]

So just connect all this to when you were younger, because songwriter is something you find out of the camera breaking. But before that, you're doing dance. And we'll ask you the central question of the podcast in a second. But I just wonder, as someone who was around girls doing dance contests all the time, and that was such a fun thing that we all did with each other as kids, did you have a long period of dance being really fun for you before it became a job? And if so, or if not, how did you find the fun in it?

[Tate McRae]

Again, I've always just been obsessed with dance.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. So it never got like, it's too much on the schedule. Like, I'm hating dance right now.

[Tate McRae]

It's not really. It only started to get ugly at like age 16, 17, where I was like, I want to go to high school.

[Matt Rogers]

I hear you.

[Tate McRae]

And I want to be a kid. And I remember feeling that with like, I want to go to school with my brother. I want to go to a party.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I want to drink alcohol. I want to like. It was just like that feeling of like, I need to be normal.

[Matt Rogers]

And yet you have this extraordinary gift and opportunity.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. It was a catch 22 because I felt like the coolest I ever felt was when I was in my element. I didn't feel cool in school or my personality always felt a little awkward. And so I was like, I'll feel myself when I am in my art and in my craft, and that's when people will fully understand me. So it was weird because then I went to high school and I was like, oh, my God, now I've even more feelings because I feel so out of place.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And it was like, I'm not at ballet school anymore. And so then it drove me after that to, like, you know, I think really get into it again. Like, to go back to it.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Because high school's a fucking beast. Beast. Right.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

I still think, looking back, it was the hardest time.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And they tried to. They really tried to make you think this is the best four years ever. You're always going to want to be the. You couldn't pay me to go back.

[Tate McRae]

No, no. I felt the same. High school was interesting.

[Bowen Yang]

Calgary high school was interesting. Like. Like, what's the vibe in Calgary high school?

[Tate McRae]

Probably the same. No, honestly, it was like. It was like, normal. It was just like, the vibe.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. Because I grew up in first, a quick little second. I grew up in Brossard, in. In Quebec.

[Tate McRae]

Oh, whoa. Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

And maybe it's a French Canadian thing, but it's like it always seemed a little bit. Ironically, it seemed a little bit grittier.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

And like, more in your face. But that's maybe the French. The French Canada thing, like, probably Calgary.

[Tate McRae]

I don't know.

[Bowen Yang]

But Calgary feels like. It's like. It's not. It's not bc.

[Tate McRae]

It's like.

[Matt Rogers]

It feels like for real Canadians, it's like real Canada.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

It is the streets.

[Tate McRae]

The streets of Canada. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

The one street.

[Matt Rogers]

The one street.

[Bowen Yang]

The ones. Wait, so. Okay, so. But it just. It was rough. It was just hard. It made you feel like. It made us feel, like, crazy.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. It didn't. It does. Did make me feel a little crazy because I was just like, oh, I feel really out of place.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And I. I feel so. I thought I, like, overthought and overanalyzed myself before this. Now I'm like. My personality is like the biggest problem in the world. So.

[Bowen Yang]

But would you say, like, did that be the songwriting at all?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. So that. That's when I, like, really started to. I mean, I loved writing since I was a little kid. I'd write short stories and poems all the time. But that's when I really started to get into songwriting because I felt so fucking crazy. But I was just like, people need to understand me.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like the second or third time you've said that. It's about being understood. It's not about being impressive or anything, which I think is so interesting because your skills are so impressive. But it's not about that. It's about more you getting yourself across and being understood for sure.

[Tate McRae]

That's what it has always been, for me is just, like, literally not being able to explain myself and then being able to explain myself fully through dance and singing and feeling so seen exactly how I want.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Nothing weird.

[Matt Rogers]

You feel like when you listen to your albums, like, is that the number one thing you want is like, I feel like I got myself across there, like. Or what is it?

[Tate McRae]

That's the goal.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I think it's hard to do that because sometimes you're so locked in a bubble that. Of perfecting songs that you're just like, whoa, what was that?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

But that's. I think, at the end of the day, the goal out of every album.

[Bowen Yang]

I think last album, you were like, I have a harder time writing from a place of, like, joy and happiness. Because I. Is that still true?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I think you need to hurt a.

[Bowen Yang]

And I asked that in such a crazy way. I'm just saying, like, because you do write from this place of, like, I need to get these emotions out. I need to process in this way. And totally, I don't need to process happiness because I'm feeling happy.

[Matt Rogers]

It's hard to be driven by happiness to express.

[Tate McRae]

You know, I am. I think I'm a pretty happy person.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, I asked that in such a crazy way. I'm sorry.

[Tate McRae]

No, no, it was a great way. I mean, it's exactly what it is. I feel like I'm a very normally happy and, like, stable person, but then there's, like, one little hole inside of me that's so fucking sad.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And I don't know what that is. And it just, like, that's what I write from.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you get closer to figuring it out? Like, is it, like, what is it? Is it men? Has it been men? Well, it's not now.

[Tate McRae]

The answer is always yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

I get that. I really don't know what it is. It's always like, it's. It's been since I was, like, a little, little kid. It might be because I'm a. Cancer.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Cancer. Scorpio.

[Tate McRae]

Circle.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Scorpio.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. What?

[Tate McRae]

I know more about Pisces than I do Scorpio.

[Matt Rogers]

Scorpio is the dark Pisces.

[Tate McRae]

Whoa.

[Matt Rogers]

And I say that in, like, all positive ways. Like, Scorpio has the edge that Pisces can't muster up. And I feel that way about cancer.

[Tate McRae]

Too, that we don't have the edge.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, no, no.

[Bowen Yang]

You have the edge.

[Matt Rogers]

You have the edge.

[Bowen Yang]

You are a cancer queen.

[Tate McRae]

Right? We're, like, a little spicy, but really.

[Matt Rogers]

Sensitive, but mostly protective.

[Tate McRae]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, so that's the hard shell. Whereas, like, Scorpio, it's more of the stinger. You know what I mean? It's like, scorpio, don't cross. Because, I mean, I always say about him, he doesn't suffer fools.

[Tate McRae]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Whereas I'm like, I will give everyone the benefit of the doubt until. And blame myself until I'm like a puddle.

[Tate McRae]

Right. Cancer and Pisces get along really well. Same with Scorpio.

[Bowen Yang]

We all get along, really. We're all water signs. We're the three water signs.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Kind of cool.

[Matt Rogers]

We all belong splashing around together.

[Tate McRae]

We do. In the ocean.

[Matt Rogers]

So we can protect each other, but also open each other up.

[Tate McRae]

Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But I feel like when you do write from a place of joy and happiness, it, like, it is a huge sort of success because, like, two Hands, I feel like, is so joyful.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, it is. Well, I think then that clicks into my, like, performer side.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Which feels like my alter ego feels like my side on tour feels like the mode that isn't my, like, sensitive self is, like, what I turn on when it's time to perform.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

And that's. If I'm gonna write that kind of song, I have to be in that headspace.

[Matt Rogers]

So my question is, like, when. When you are, like, creating a record that, like, pretty much already beforehand, because you've had such huge success on streaming and radio and everything, and you're such an exciting artist and you're creating a new album, is there the pressure every time to go in there and, like, write a hit? Or is it more just about, like, today we're writing a single, or, like, today we're. Right, we're trying to fill out, like, something that I want to explore. Like, I guess how intentional is the process of writing something that's meant to catch?

[Tate McRae]

I mean, it's so hard because I try not to approach it that way, because you just want to, like, go in and experiment for, like, months, and then there hits a point where your label's like, okay, where's the single?

[Matt Rogers]

Though?

[Tate McRae]

Experimentation is done. Like, where's the single? And then it becomes really fucking stressful because then. Then you're just like, oh, my God, what's the song? And this is where I become the most indecisive person. Of course, like, my team, like, wants to shoot me when I'm picking a single because I can't decide.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't hurt Tate.

[Matt Rogers]

But isn't it crazy, though, that, like, that they do turn to you and then they're like, I mean, even for me and my like, comedy album, what do I know? They turned to me and they were like, so what? The single? And I was like, oh, I was supposed to pick. I feel like, like, isn't that. Don't you feel like it's kind of nice that it's your responsibility, but also you're like, oh, God, it's so cool.

[Tate McRae]

You can't see it. It's like you can't see your own work when you're in the middle of creating it. Like, yeah. So many words and jumbles and yeah. You're like hearing yourself talk and sing back. It's like you can't pick.

[Bowen Yang]

Right?

[Tate McRae]

You can't pick.

[Matt Rogers]

It's also like such a ready made drag from the fan community. Like, oh, she picked the wrong single.

[Tate McRae]

You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

That's the worst. And we, we as like people that talk about pop culture, like all the time, like, we're guilty of it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, when our fave, like in retrospect, like clearly should have picked something else as the first single. It's like, you know, you, you're like, it's like a thing, but it's not as easy as.

[Bowen Yang]

It's so not hearing the hit.

[Matt Rogers]

You can't read people's mind.

[Tate McRae]

It's a special skill. And I don't have it.

[Matt Rogers]

I think you have it.

[Tate McRae]

I literally cannot pick a single. It's so not obvious me. It all sounds the same, but that.

[Bowen Yang]

Shouldn'T be part of your job. No, but it literally is.

[Tate McRae]

Sucks. It is literally part of my job.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And very important.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

How have you felt about the singles this, this go around? Like, are you excited about the ones you picked?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I think so.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I think everything happens for a reason. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And what's the reason?

[Tate McRae]

The reason is like, I think you can always have doubts about songs. Not like things about some songs, like things about other songs. And wish the worst part is like, you love things and then it's like the week to release, you know, this is the worst fucking song I've ever heard in my life.

[Matt Rogers]

Just because you've listened to it too much at that point.

[Tate McRae]

Yes. And now you're just like processing it too much. Totally. I think singles happen for a reason. I think they've like, they make sense and the album will make it all come together.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you have a favorite song off the album? Yeah. Like, what's the one you can't wait for everyone to get to?

[Tate McRae]

Okay. I'm excited for Blood on my hands.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And I'm excited for, like, I do, because I feel like it's a little different.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, I do is great. Flo Millie, I've loved forever.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. She's great. She's got, like.

[Matt Rogers]

Sounds great.

[Tate McRae]

She does sound great. I've just also never done a song like that with a rapper.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

That's really cool.

[Bowen Yang]

Your first time with, like, a hip hop feature. Oh, great.

[Tate McRae]

I know.

[Bowen Yang]

That's.

[Tate McRae]

It's fun.

[Bowen Yang]

Major.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Major laser.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. I want to shout out Green Light. Because the bridge on that, there's. Is it a vocal effect? Because there's like a. Like, do you know what I'm talking about?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Sick.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you. I love Green Light, too.

[Matt Rogers]

I think that was another one of our favorites. Signs and Green Light were the ones we shouted out.

[Tate McRae]

Green Light was one that I wrote on my own. That was a hidden one where I was like, I don't know how I feel right now in this relationship. And not in a bad way. Not in, like, I don't know how I feel. It was more or less just being like, what am I feeling? And what I had felt was I was, like, still hurt from a past relationship. And then I was like, fuck. I feel like I'm, like, waiting at a. A green light, and I literally just can't press the gas.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Tate McRae]

And I thought that was such a weird feeling. And that was, like, the road metaphor. But that one was. That one was fun to write. I like that one, too.

[Bowen Yang]

There's, like. There's. Wow. Like, the poetry in that is, like, huge.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I feel that way so many times.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. It's just. It's hard to believe in yourself. Like, it's hard to believe that you're like, yeah, sure, you're giving me the go ahead, but is it going to be worth it once you, like, really get on the ride with me?

[Bowen Yang]

Totally.

[Matt Rogers]

That's. And it's scary, of course. Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And also, you just, like, can't unhear or undo things that have happened to you in the past.

[Matt Rogers]

No, you can't.

[Tate McRae]

Just stuck with you. Like, you are now just a reflection of your past. And you have to learn how to, like, have a better experience and overshadow that or, you know, fall in love again and feel the good things again. But you have to, like, jump off first before you fall in love.

[Matt Rogers]

I think the scary thing is, it's like, when you see how much you can give and how much it can go away. It's like, why would you ever do that?

[Tate McRae]

Again, I know.

[Matt Rogers]

And also knowing that the people who give you the most, also, you lose the most from them because they gave the most.

[Tate McRae]

It's so weird. Like, you never do this with friendships or with things in life where you are the closest person, and then it's all of a sudden just like, nothing.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like, that is so shocking to the system. Like, it is a death. It's heartbreak is so awful.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

There's like, oh, I was talking about this other day, and I was just like, that was one of the worst feelings ever. Like, any type of heartbreaks, you're just like, what is this? I shouldn't care this much, but I care so much.

[Matt Rogers]

You care so much because also it's like. Because it's not actually a death. Then people come in with their opinions on what you should be doing to get over it, how much time is okay. But it's literally grief. It is the loss of a person. And you wouldn't talk about someone's grief about an actual, like, loss to death in that way. So I don't think people should necessarily be judging it. Like, yeah, like, every time I think of myself in my past being like, girl, come on, move on. Like, you know what it is? It's like, now that I've been through stuff like, you can't.

[Tate McRae]

You can't.

[Bowen Yang]

I've never bought into, like, the. It takes this long to get over something this.

[Matt Rogers]

What do they say? Like, half the duration of what it was.

[Tate McRae]

It's like, really?

[Matt Rogers]

That's wrong.

[Bowen Yang]

It's just wrong.

[Tate McRae]

Neil is wrong.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't listen to people who tell you that.

[Tate McRae]

I agree.

[Matt Rogers]

As the seasons shift and we spend more time at home, how are you making your bed a space that works for everything? Whether it's snuggling with loved ones, sharing laughs with your pets, tackling a busy morning with the kids, or simply unwinding after it all.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I know you do. You talk about it.

[Bowen Yang]

My face just fell. In a genuine earnestness, he made eye.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

It's about a high school girls soccer team who gets stranded in the woods after their plane crashes and need to do some pretty crazy stuff to survive.

[Bowen Yang]

This season their mental states begin to fracture and normal teenage girl drama is elevated by life and death circumstances. Fast forward to adulthood and everything they did in the wilderness seems to be coming back to hunt them.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the perfect mashup of horror, mystery, suspense and laughs with an absolute star studded cast. I'm talking friend of the show Melanie Lynske, Tawny Cypress, Lauren Ambrose, Simone Cassell, special guests Elijah Wood and Hilary Swank with Christina Ricci and more. Plus, this season promises to answer so many burning questions.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't miss the new season of Yellowjackets now streaming on the Paramount plus with Showtime plan.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so it's time for us to ask the question that we ask of all of our guests. This is Tate McCray. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? This is when you can pinpoint. I think I started to become myself when that moment of pop culture, like, entered my life.

[Tate McRae]

Okay, I've thought long and hard about this because I'm really not like that into pop culture, but that's fine.

[Matt Rogers]

Any culture.

[Tate McRae]

Okay. But I, I will say like one moment. I was like a big Disney channel kid when I was younger and I really do think that that shaped my personality. And I remember that Hannah Montana was life changing for sure. Just like, me being like, well, I have to become a pop girl now. I have no other option. Like, I have to become a pop star now because that is so sick.

[Matt Rogers]

I will have a place where I can. I will have a place where I can put that version of me. Yeah, well, she kind of was doing what you talked about, which is like, I do want to be a kid, but also, I know I'm a superstar, and that's how they'll understand me.

[Tate McRae]

Me, Totally.

[Matt Rogers]

So, yeah.

[Tate McRae]

No, that's how I kind of felt like in high school. Like, not to that extent, of course, but, like, a little bit.

[Bowen Yang]

Did that open up a country music for you too, in a way or no?

[Tate McRae]

Like, did it make me want to do country music or just, like, did.

[Bowen Yang]

It give you an appreciation? Like, you're like Billy Ray. Like, who's this man?

[Tate McRae]

Who's this man?

[Matt Rogers]

I can see you doing country.

[Tate McRae]

You know what? I can, too, because Calgary, for some reason, is kind of country. Like, we have, like, this one month in the summertime where literally the whole place is like, haystacks, cowboy hats, only country music.

[Matt Rogers]

Isn't there a festival?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. Stampede.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

So weird. Like, it's just for one month.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, awesome.

[Tate McRae]

The whole town goes.

[Matt Rogers]

Goes country.

[Tate McRae]

Straight country. There's. Yeah, whatever. So I'm, like, actually into country music.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

But I did feel that, like, coming home. Like, when Miley would come home and she'd sing the climb and she'd take off her wings, it's just me, like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I just, like, remember being like, this is gonna be me one day, like.

[Bowen Yang]

But literally, look.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Giving Hannah Montana.

[Tate McRae]

Right. Honestly, for sure.

[Matt Rogers]

Was it also a little bit like seeing Miley and also seeing her as someone? That was. Because I would imagine that it's like the Disney star thing looms so much around the Disney Channel and, like, Hannah Montana. It's like you see kids that are your age or kids that you can identify with, like, in the industry, proving that it's somehow possible.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I think that was really shoved in our faces at that age of, like, Disney Channel was glamorizing pop stars.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Every show, like Camp Rock, even. That was our era.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like, oh, my God, they were singing. Yes, yes, exactly. Just being like, whoa. Like, this is legit.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, yeah, you want to be a star. Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

I just remember that feeling, like, this is the shit. This is. The only thing in life is music.

[Bowen Yang]

So Miley and Hannah are like, the Locust, and does it then bring in, like, Selena and Zendaya and Ari and.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I think that's the whole lore. I think that's what I wish I could go back and be like, oh, it was an earlier pinpoint, but really it was Disney Channel.

[Bowen Yang]

That's the perfect pinpoint.

[Tate McRae]

That was when my brain was forming and I was watching that every day, being like, Alex and Mrs. Waverly Place is my personality. Hannah Montana is my life.

[Bowen Yang]

And.

[Tate McRae]

And I'm gonna go do Camp Rock with Joe Jonas. Like, that was like my whole. Like, this is going to be my life.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That's powerful, right? That's like. No, I'm. It's. By the way, did we get Disney Channel in Canada? Yeah, when I grew up there, it was like YTV was.

[Tate McRae]

You didn't get it? Oh, YTV is like a.

[Bowen Yang]

But YTV was like Canada's Nickelodeon.

[Tate McRae]

We had. My family had Disney Channel.

[Matt Rogers]

He didn't. You didn't have cable?

[Bowen Yang]

I didn't even have cable.

[Matt Rogers]

But, like, you would go to school.

[Bowen Yang]

And you would stay after school and you would watch YTV and there was a show called. Oh, and like, you get.

[Matt Rogers]

Can I tell you. Yeah, no, we. We had different versions of it. Can I tell you what you would have been absolutely obsessed with? Because we're obviously the same age. You would have rode so hard for Lizzie McGuire.

[Bowen Yang]

I know, I. No, I know I would have.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Lizzie McGuire was. She was everything.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, she was.

[Bowen Yang]

She was Sleepover in the fifth grade. Was all boys, mind you.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

And for some reason, it was like midnight, one of the boys, straight as an arrow, allegedly decides to put on Lizzie McGuire.

[Matt Rogers]

The movie or the show?

[Bowen Yang]

Just the show. And then it's all of these boys talking about how hot Hillary Duff is.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, well.

[Bowen Yang]

And I was just like, but she's being funny.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, you can't see her talent. I'm like, but she's so. But first and foremost, she's a talent.

[Tate McRae]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Rogers]

And they were all like, so sweet.

[Bowen Yang]

But all these guys were like, yanking it.

[Matt Rogers]

They were yanking it. It's so weird to think about the concept of teen idol because that's essentially what that is. It's like all the girls wanting to, like, for example, someone like Hilary Duff, she's so famous at a time when everyone is going through puberty.

[Tate McRae]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's weird.

[Tate McRae]

I know. It is weird.

[Matt Rogers]

That's crazy.

[Tate McRae]

It is crazy. Very formative years in your life.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I remember my friend. My friend. My friend's older brother had a life size cutout of Hilary Duff. And I was like, now looking back, I'm like, what happened there?

[Bowen Yang]

No, red flag.

[Matt Rogers]

Red flag. But then it's like, I was so into her music too.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Come Clean. I still think Come Clean is one of the great songs.

[Bowen Yang]

The club remix of that.

[Matt Rogers]

So we're just seeing the talent.

[Bowen Yang]

We're just seeing the talent. Literally.

[Tate McRae]

Literally.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. How did you meet current boyfriend?

[Tate McRae]

How did I meet current boyfriend? I have known him for three years. We've been friends, and it wasn't until last year I was in Cabo and he happened to be in Cabo at the same time. And we have never had one good interaction. We're in the same friend group, so we have the same, like. And we hang out all the time. And we had never had one non awkward experience.

[Bowen Yang]

Really Rivals to romance.

[Tate McRae]

Kind of like a little bit. He's like, we weren't enemies. I'm like, yes. We were like, wow. We just had this feeling where, like, every time we would say something to each other, it was just, like, not what we planned to say.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like the most social suicide moments of all time.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like, I would trip every time I see him or I'd, like, try to dab him up. I'm like, why the did I just dab him up?

[Matt Rogers]

Like, right.

[Tate McRae]

So weird now you know that.

[Matt Rogers]

Anyone else?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, literally.

[Tate McRae]

I'm like, what was that? Like? I was so out of character. And I remember he used to be like, why do my. Why do these friends, like. Like Tate? And I'd be like, why did my friends like Laroi and how do we all get along? And then Cabo.

[Bowen Yang]

You just happened to be in Cabo at the same time?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That's amazing.

[Tate McRae]

And he texted me and he was like, are you here? And I was like, yes. And then we got together. Got together.

[Bowen Yang]

He's great on the album too.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, he's so great.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

I will say, do you think looking back now, you, like, it was a subconscious. You liked him the whole time?

[Tate McRae]

No, I. I think I'm so about personality. Like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

If we have, like, a funny connection or like, you, like, get me, that's when I'll really get a crush on someone.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Tate McRae]

It's never from, like, first glance.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like, ever.

[Bowen Yang]

And so he, like, got you eventually.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. Because we actually had good conversations that trip. And like. Yeah. It felt like we finally clicked. We finally got each other.

[Bowen Yang]

Was this after snl?

[Tate McRae]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. Because I remember at snl, the afterbird. Do you remember this? You and I were, like, in the room trying to, like, scope out. You were like, the boys. You were like, single.

[Matt Rogers]

He was like, oh, that's so fun.

[Tate McRae]

I was like. I was like, well, I was really in my single era. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

There's a lot of eligible bachelors around there.

[Bowen Yang]

What I told Tate was, I don't think there are a lot of options.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I was sitting besides some people, and I was like, we are not hitting it off. Like, one of our.

[Matt Rogers]

One of my favorite stories is it was like SNL after party. It was the Lizzo episode. And remember this? We were. We were all at the after party, and Lizzo came in ready to party.

[Bowen Yang]

She came.

[Matt Rogers]

She had changed her dress. She came in ready to slay. Twenty minutes later, she leaves going, guess not. The party was dead. Like, sometimes alchemy just isn't happening in a gal.

[Tate McRae]

Because I've heard it's like, can be the craziest thing on earth. That night, it was like. It was like, mid level.

[Bowen Yang]

Your words, right? Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like any party. It's like, if there's. If there's an alchemy, there's an alchemy.

[Tate McRae]

Totally.

[Bowen Yang]

I can't speak ill of the SNL after party because it's, you know, this hallowed thing.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, you were. You were supposed to come with the bird's eye view on the actual eligible guys there. But apparently.

[Bowen Yang]

And I pitched a few. But I was like, but no. Like, Tate.

[Tate McRae]

They weren't working.

[Bowen Yang]

They weren't working. Like, Tate needs something special. And then look. And now. Now you're with now.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, but that was tough. I really don't like looking for guys. Like, it's so.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the worst. You would rather be pursued?

[Tate McRae]

Much rather. I'd much rather be, like, natural. Like, it just happens.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, totally.

[Tate McRae]

Like friends to lovers. Like, that. I'm like, that bad vibe.

[Bowen Yang]

But that's. That's the royal.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, that was that vibe for sure. Which felt way more natural.

[Bowen Yang]

Totally.

[Tate McRae]

I'm not like, a big, like, flirt up front.

[Matt Rogers]

That's not the cancer vibe anyway.

[Bowen Yang]

No, you flirt.

[Tate McRae]

Like, that's not me.

[Matt Rogers]

So the Tate on stage is not the Tate flirt game.

[Tate McRae]

It is so funny. The Tate on stage is, like, so polar opposite to my actual personality. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Hannah Montana.

[Tate McRae]

Hannah Montana. I'm gonna get dragged for comparing.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, please.

[Tate McRae]

Why would you.

[Bowen Yang]

We all wanted to be her.

[Tate McRae]

We all wanted to be here, and she's an icon. But.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. So I don't know this, like, person that I am on stage. My mom is always just like, what? Who is this? Like, I'm like, I don't know. She's like, you're too sexy or you're too. Like, it's too much, like, the. Too intense. Like, it's not me, like, because I have, like, these, like, lock in galvanized. Like, when you're on stage, it's just like, it's happening.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It's time. Go time.

[Tate McRae]

But it's just, like, very different from my actual personality, so it's, like, shocking sometimes to my family.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, because you're so. You are very, like, chill and mellow in conversation. And then, like, in videos on stage, it's like you are. It's the eyes. You're right. You're locked in.

[Tate McRae]

We're locked in.

[Bowen Yang]

But, like, two hands. It's okay. I'm okay. I'm just like. Even like, run for the hills. I'm just like. You are. You are dialed in in an amazing way. And I'm like. It's so interesting to hear you say that. It literally is Hannah Montana.

[Tate McRae]

In conclusion.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, imagine. Imagine you went on stage for the first time you ever performed. Like, locked in were galvanized and came off, and it never went away. Like, your mom would be really freaked out then.

[Tate McRae]

That's terrifying.

[Matt Rogers]

My daughter's locked in, Right? What do I do? Can you please help? My daughter's locked in.

[Tate McRae]

So locked.

[Matt Rogers]

My daughter's too locked in.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Describe the Persona. Who is she? What? What's she about?

[Tate McRae]

My alter ego.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Sasha Fierce.

[Tate McRae]

Literally, it's. I've made it into, like, a joke, so I talk about it, like, way too much. Like, probably way more than I should, but it's. I call her Tatiana.

[Matt Rogers]

Tatiana is a really good name for her.

[Tate McRae]

Hey, yeah. Tatiana. And it's just when I go on stage, I black out. Like, I don't actually remember that much. You just, like, perform.

[Bowen Yang]

I. I know what you're saying, because I've. We leave our bodies sometimes. Or like, you. You feel this way.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

Right. Like, you feel like you're. It's now just, like a thing with your body and God, like, in the universe, and it's just like you get possessed. And that's the best performance. When I become too aware of, like, I always say, this is like the craziest example. When you're on stage and you become too aware and too in your body, it feels like you're, like, manually breathing. You know, when you're in bed and you're like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Remember that you have to breathe.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

And then you stop breathing because you're like. This is really. This is an automatic thing.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, I've never heard someone describe it this way. This is huge.

[Tate McRae]

Okay, don't think about it before bed if you.

[Matt Rogers]

Because you'll die.

[Bowen Yang]

Because you'll die.

[Tate McRae]

If you think about breathing before bed, you will stop breathing.

[Matt Rogers]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, shit.

[Tate McRae]

Because it is so automatic when you.

[Matt Rogers]

Become aware of yourself. It's over.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

So, like, that's. I mean, that's. That's just it.

[Tate McRae]

You're just. It's. And then when you're on stage and you have people watching you and you're like. You forget how to, like, walk and.

[Matt Rogers]

Move, so you have to turn into someone else.

[Tate McRae]

I have to. Otherwise, I become way too aware.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

And then I could, like, do nothing normal. Like, nothing is. It's just, like, you have to be in a different body or a different space.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, it's crazy conceptually to think about the fact that you wrote a song for two hours in your room, and then weeks later, it was like, okay, like, a bunch of people saw this, and now they're knocking on my door to, like, get me to sign.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And then that's the kind of the same thing where it's like, you wrote.

[Matt Rogers]

First song she ever wrote.

[Bowen Yang]

First song you ever wrote.

[Tate McRae]

But it's like.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, there's just, like. It kind of translates to this idea of, like, you wrote something and you, like. It's a very intimate, interior experience. And then you're doing arena tour with all these songs that you wrote in the privacy of your own studio, you know?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, it's. It's bizarre.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't know. It's like a stoner thought, but you know what I mean? It's like.

[Tate McRae]

It's crazy. Exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

You wrote a song and then you had to perform it. So crazy.

[Tate McRae]

This is really crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

No, but that's where I get like, all, like, the. That's where I feel like the universe is just, like, planning everything out. Because I'm like, these coincidences and these things happening, like, aren't. Aren't just, like, yeah, random. Like, they're just meant to happen. Like. And I think that, like. Yeah, I feel like. I feel like you, like, know that from a young age you kind of, like, know what you're gonna do.

[Matt Rogers]

What's the venue that you're most gagged about performing like, that you can't really believe is happening?

[Tate McRae]

Well, the Forum will be fun.

[Matt Rogers]

Forum is gonna be great.

[Tate McRae]

Doing a couple nights there, which will be fun. And MSG again.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I love.

[Bowen Yang]

That's wild.

[Tate McRae]

I know. MSG is just special. Just New York. I Just bought a place in New York.

[Matt Rogers]

Good for you.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you. New York is just like my place.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

New York is the place. I love to hear it.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Honestly. Oh, God. Just that. There is nothing like it. Did you. Do you see a lot of live shows, too? Do you go a lot of stuff?

[Tate McRae]

I try. I'm just, like, on tour a lot.

[Matt Rogers]

Did you see the Sweat tour?

[Tate McRae]

Yes, I did.

[Matt Rogers]

Did you see that at Madison Square Garden?

[Tate McRae]

I saw that at the Forum.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. The Forum was great. Madison Square Garden. I thought it was gonna flip over.

[Tate McRae]

Really?

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. So crazy. Charlie's. I mean, Troy's music just sounds different in there because, like, it's more of a vibe. Like, it. It was kind of breathing. I love, like, the Charlie and Troy show because it was like. When Troy was out there, it was, like, cool and, like, pillowy and gorgeous. And then Charlie came out and just, like, punched you in the face. And it was rotating between that. But when she was in that venue, I thought it was going to flip over.

[Tate McRae]

That was one of the best shows I've seen in a very long time. Absolutely. It was so good.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

So. Well, I loved the two of them. Flipping.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I haven't seen a show like that before.

[Bowen Yang]

That needs to happen more often.

[Tate McRae]

I think so, too.

[Bowen Yang]

Not since Justified, Stripped or the then scrapped Kanye Gaga tour.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, wow.

[Bowen Yang]

2009.

[Matt Rogers]

It's crazy to think about that as a reality.

[Bowen Yang]

It was gonna happen, and then it got canceled after the VMAs. After. I'm gonna let you finish. Something split in the fabric of culture. At that night, we were just talking about that.

[Matt Rogers]

That was so consequential for all of pop culture history.

[Tate McRae]

That night was wild.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, you did Tokyo for the last tour?

[Tate McRae]

Yes, I did.

[Bowen Yang]

Tell me everything. What'd you think?

[Tate McRae]

We just went to Tokyo for the first time. We ate so much steak, I turned into a grain of rice. Ate so much.

[Matt Rogers]

I love rice.

[Tate McRae]

Like, we just, like. But we had, like, the best time ever. Like, Tokyo is one of my favorite places. It's magical.

[Bowen Yang]

It's crazy.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, it's. I've never seen it.

[Matt Rogers]

We.

[Tate McRae]

We played with pigs.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

You went to a Micro Pig cafe.

[Tate McRae]

That was like, number one.

[Matt Rogers]

Micro Pig.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. They're like. Well, they're maybe not micro.

[Bowen Yang]

There's some big ones.

[Tate McRae]

They're macro pigs.

[Matt Rogers]

They're macro pigs. That sounds horrifying.

[Bowen Yang]

There's like a straight in Harajuku or. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if this is when you went on, but there's like, there's, like, multiple places in Tokyo where it's like, the Puppy Cafe. No problem. The. The Cat, the Kitten Cafe. No problem.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

The new animal is the micropigs.

[Tate McRae]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

And then the even newer one is Otter Cafe.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. Those are crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

Those are crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, It's a cafe with otters.

[Bowen Yang]

You. You eat, you pay, you, like, order some food. You eat, you sip your tea, and then they. They run around and they come up to you.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. And they, like, sit in your lap.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. This is too precious.

[Tate McRae]

No, it was perfect. And then. Then they all stack on top of each other so there's like. There's like eight in your lap at once.

[Matt Rogers]

So what animal are you? You can't say micro pig, because I'll fight you.

[Tate McRae]

I don't know, but that's fine.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm so not a micro bitch.

[Tate McRae]

What do you think yours is? What are your guys.

[Matt Rogers]

People that wanted to really drag me to hell would be like, I'm some sort of reptile.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

But I don't think I am.

[Tate McRae]

I don't really see that.

[Matt Rogers]

I would like to be some sort of crazy bird.

[Tate McRae]

Okay. I could see that.

[Matt Rogers]

You can?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Why are you laughing?

[Tate McRae]

I'm not laughing. I'm just, like, picturing it.

[Matt Rogers]

I feel like I'm a bird. I feel like definitely giving ostrich. They don't even fly.

[Bowen Yang]

They don't have to.

[Matt Rogers]

I was gonna say eagle.

[Tate McRae]

I don't think you're not.

[Matt Rogers]

I was gonna say falcon. I'm a falcon.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so with that, what are you?

[Bowen Yang]

I might be a pig. I might be a pig of some kind.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know.

[Tate McRae]

I feel like you're more of like, a koala or something.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I'll take koala chlamydia down.

[Matt Rogers]

You know, they all have chlamydia. Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, I'll be koala.

[Tate McRae]

I'll. I feel like I would be a. Hmm.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't look at him.

[Bowen Yang]

I feel like you're.

[Tate McRae]

I want to be a cheetah. But I'm not.

[Bowen Yang]

You are.

[Tate McRae]

You are.

[Bowen Yang]

No, you're actually a cheetah. What are you talking about?

[Matt Rogers]

You don't think you're a cheetah?

[Tate McRae]

I don't think I'm that fast.

[Bowen Yang]

It's not about speed. It's just about the. The demeanor.

[Tate McRae]

Right. And you have a cheetah energy, Billy.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, when you're on stage, like, that's that or that. Who that girl becomes.

[Bowen Yang]

Tatiana is a cheetah.

[Matt Rogers]

She's a cheetah She's a leopard.

[Tate McRae]

I could be more of like a rhino now or something.

[Bowen Yang]

Right. Have some respect for yourself.

[Tate McRae]

They're like, you're.

[Matt Rogers]

I love that we're asking her what she thinks she is.

[Tate McRae]

No. Okay, I'll take it.

[Bowen Yang]

It's Tate and Tatiana. You know what I mean?

[Tate McRae]

Together. A cheetah.

[Matt Rogers]

Because a cheetah writes too.

[Tate McRae]

Just a little slower. Yeah, Take a little slower than.

[Matt Rogers]

So maybe mountain lion.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

I like that.

[Bowen Yang]

Mountain lion is good.

[Matt Rogers]

Stands above, sees the world for what it is.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you call her Tati sometimes or is it full on? Tatiana.

[Tate McRae]

I call her Tatiana.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Don't say Tati to her.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Tatiana. Will you up?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Was Tatiana's getting arrested? Was that Tate?

[Tate McRae]

That was Tatiana for sure.

[Matt Rogers]

You would never get arrested.

[Tate McRae]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

What are your crimes that you've committed?

[Tate McRae]

I'm. I've actually never committed a crime.

[Matt Rogers]

Never.

[Tate McRae]

I'm a big goody two shoes.

[Matt Rogers]

Really?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I don't. I really do not cause any trouble.

[Matt Rogers]

I will say that's good Disney Channel vibes.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, I'm one of those good kids.

[Tate McRae]

I am good. I'm pretty wholesome team.

[Matt Rogers]

Is this true?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Okay.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I'm. I think you confirmed I'm pretty good at issue. So, like that, that arrest scene was. Was funny. My parents were on set too.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, they were.

[Tate McRae]

But.

[Matt Rogers]

But was it getting a pasty vibe?

[Tate McRae]

I don't know. It wasn't even naked. It was. Kaya, let me say this.

[Matt Rogers]

Set the record straight.

[Tate McRae]

This like, like the editing was so good that it looked like I was super naked. I was in like full on like a workout set. Just beige.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tate McRae]

So I was sitting there and I'm just doing my acting. Yeah, like, whatever. So it wasn't even that intense. Yeah. And so my parents were like, woo.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, yeah. So they were like, we're so down.

[Tate McRae]

We're so down.

[Matt Rogers]

That's Tatiana out there getting topless arrested.

[Tate McRae]

This is pop.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, yeah, this is pop.

[Tate McRae]

My dad was like, yes. Yeah. Like they were just like, this is really cool. And then the editing came back, right? And it looked so realistic.

[Bowen Yang]

It was giving.

[Matt Rogers]

Girls Gone Wild.

[Tate McRae]

It was giving like, whoa. Like, they did too good.

[Bowen Yang]

Sure, they did too good.

[Tate McRae]

And the final edit wasn't until like two days before. So we had been all the edits. Everyone was like, oh, this is great. It was like beige. And the final edit was like so realistic that all of us were kind of numb to it. So when I was like, when the Internet became like Shocked. I was like, oh. Like, I didn't really, like, think too hard about this.

[Matt Rogers]

Are you? But they'll. The Internet will always think too hard.

[Tate McRae]

Of course.

[Bowen Yang]

That's their job.

[Tate McRae]

So that was. That was funny because it wasn't actually, like, it wasn't that, like, yes, salacious on set shit.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm sorry that I said tits out earlier.

[Tate McRae]

It's okay.

[Matt Rogers]

It was disrespectful.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm apologizing all throughout this episode.

[Tate McRae]

I didn't take any offense to it.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Now she was cool as cucumber.

[Bowen Yang]

Cucumber. I have a question. How long does choreo live in? You like it? Could you, like.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, that's good.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you need to be refreshed?

[Matt Rogers]

How.

[Bowen Yang]

How much do you need to be refreshed?

[Tate McRae]

Okay, so I can pick up pretty fast. I would say, like, I can learn it right before. Memorize it and perform it like. Like, for when we premiered. It's okay. I'm okay. Like, we learned it the day before.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Tate McRae]

And then did it. Once I do the performance, it's out of my head, like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

I don't remember unless we rehearse it for weeks and then it, like, sticks.

[Matt Rogers]

Because something else has to go up in the brain.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I have, like, no memories, so.

[Bowen Yang]

But for sure, like, I was gonna.

[Matt Rogers]

Ask if you have a favorite dance break of all time. Like, if you have a favorite pop.

[Tate McRae]

Music dance break of all time.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, what's. What's one that you're like, that she or he shredded that.

[Tate McRae]

I need to think.

[Matt Rogers]

I know. Because now it's gonna. That's the thing. It's just like, whatever you say is gonna have weight because now you're the queen of the dance break.

[Tate McRae]

That's a hard question. And to think on that for a second. Yeah, no, think on it, because that's a big one.

[Matt Rogers]

That is a big one. Because you know what jumps to mind for me?

[Bowen Yang]

What?

[Matt Rogers]

This isn't probably it, but I think one that because it was so dance contest. Me, the gay little gay boy, and my girlfriend's culture. Janet Jackson, all for your. Oh, Janet Jackson, all for your. Like, that was a song that probably was a hit primarily because of groups of little girls and gay boys doing dance contests from when she's in the.

[Bowen Yang]

Train station just now.

[Matt Rogers]

That's what I call music. I don't know. Let's call it four. Like, just track one. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That was a deep.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm going to agree with my sister. Yeah, right.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That's a huge one.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I'm still thinking.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, It's a commitment.

[Tate McRae]

When she is a big commitment.

[Matt Rogers]

I know.

[Tate McRae]

That's a huge. I mean, I would say, like, single ladies by beyond.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, yes.

[Tate McRae]

Like, I just think that that was big for me.

[Matt Rogers]

Did you learn it immediately?

[Tate McRae]

I don't think I did. Yeah, but I just remember watching it. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, but I'm saying, like, for tour, like, I was this close to trying to learn the dance break for two hands.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Because I was trying to do, like, the, like.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, you're literally, like, upside down, like, across the windshield. Wait, what? Do it again.

[Tate McRae]

I don't know what move you're referring to.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm 12. Shit.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow. She didn't even know what you were referring to.

[Bowen Yang]

I didn't do that. She's like, I never fucking.

[Matt Rogers]

Because you went like this.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, she. I'm like.

[Matt Rogers]

Which is kind of, like, kind of.

[Bowen Yang]

Cool when you sing the word two.

[Tate McRae]

I'm trying to remember the choreo.

[Bowen Yang]

I want you to hit.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow. I can't believe we're watching.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow. Oh, my God.

[Tate McRae]

This one.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. Wait, do that, do that, do it again.

[Tate McRae]

It's like the. And then you, like, drive the car. Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

But that's so. I. I'm obsessed because it's like, it's hand. It's giving car.

[Tate McRae]

It is. It's, like, giving, like, hip wave and then car.

[Matt Rogers]

So what would happen if. Would you be proud of us if. Let's say we did the two hands Choreo.

[Tate McRae]

Yes. Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

We're gonna do it.

[Matt Rogers]

We might do it.

[Tate McRae]

You should.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm gonna tell you my idea for later.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Maybe you can even be involved.

[Tate McRae]

Okay. What do you guys think?

[Matt Rogers]

You'll be on tour.

[Bowen Yang]

You'll be on tour.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

When is tour? Until for now? Many send.

[Matt Rogers]

They laugh. The team laughs. Because it's going for four years. October.

[Tate McRae]

October.

[Matt Rogers]

Because you want to have a Halloween.

[Tate McRae]

Of course I want to have a Halloween. So November, because we just announced new dates.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Congratulations. And that's why I said for now, because I knew y'all had a trick up your spin.

[Matt Rogers]

We knew the team was gonna push it.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. So now it's November and I don't get a Halloween? No.

[Matt Rogers]

That stinks. You'll get a Christmas.

[Tate McRae]

I'll get a Christmas. Christmas.

[Bowen Yang]

You need to spend Halloween in New York, and then you're gonna sell your house and be like, I never want to live here.

[Tate McRae]

Why?

[Matt Rogers]

No. You're gonna be so obsessed by the time you get to, like, actually, well, you spend time in New York. You've been home, and you get to, like, acclimate and make it your home.

[Tate McRae]

I actually haven't moved in yet. I put the offer in, like, two days ago.

[Bowen Yang]

Congrats.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, nice. And so it's gonna happen?

[Tate McRae]

I hope so.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Sometimes they pull out.

[Matt Rogers]

No. Yeah, it's. It's a whole thing. New York, New York real estate is. It's intense, gnarly, and nasty. But when you finally finish tour in November, like, then you're gonna move, and I think that November, December, actually action. September, October, November, December. That the fall quadrant. Yeah, the fall months.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

Is the best time to be in New York.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

I think so too. I think I'm gonna really enjoy there and then in the next year in New York.

[Matt Rogers]

And you do have a place here too.

[Tate McRae]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

You gotta.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, you gotta.

[Tate McRae]

I got it.

[Bowen Yang]

Favorite dance break of all time.

[Tate McRae]

Wait, didn't I say single ladies?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, she did. Yes, yes, yes. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Didn't I answer this question that's gonna cause me to get dragged online? Because now I didn't say these other girls.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

Hello. Can't win in this town.

[Bowen Yang]

I didn't realize that that's what we were putting you through.

[Matt Rogers]

That was a very Bowen response. Cancer vibes.

[Tate McRae]

You can't derives. Well, I think your hand in this award right now.

[Matt Rogers]

I know. Can you believe?

[Bowen Yang]

Well, okay, so we're gonna do.

[Matt Rogers]

This episode's winning a webby.

[Bowen Yang]

This episode is winning a webby, by the way. We're gonna do the choreo of two hands.

[Tate McRae]

Where?

[Bowen Yang]

We'll tell you later.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

You know, I'm not too brag. There might be eyes on it. Like, people.

[Matt Rogers]

There's gonna be eyes on it. We're just saying we hope we don't disappoint you.

[Tate McRae]

Well, do you need some help? Like how to learn it?

[Matt Rogers]

Are you gonna teach us?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, I can help if you're gonna.

[Matt Rogers]

If it's like, we should learn from you. Excuse you.

[Tate McRae]

This is so ambiguous. Like this.

[Bowen Yang]

We'll be in touch. We just told Tate the idea, and we had to skip past it and cut that out.

[Matt Rogers]

And she approves.

[Tate McRae]

I approve.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it's gonna be good. As the seasons shift and we spend more time at home, how are you making your bed a space that works for everything? Whether it's snuggling with loved ones, sharing laughs with your pets, tackling a busy morning with the kids, or simply unwinding after it all.

[Bowen Yang]

I love to get in bed with my Brooklinen sheets caressing my skin. Every wash makes them even softer to the touch. And I really, no joke, do love getting into my damn Brooklinen bed.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah I know you do. You talk about it.

[Bowen Yang]

My face just fell in a genuine earnestness.

[Matt Rogers]

He made eye contact with me and said I genuinely love Brooklinen.

[Bowen Yang]

Period.

[Matt Rogers]

Brooklinen has everything you need for a refresh. High quality comforters, cotton throw, blanket, etc.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Shop award winners and fan faves in store or [e-mail] that's B R O-O-K L I N E N.com get 15% off your first order today. This season, secrets will be spilled. The new season of Yellowjackets is coming to Paramount plus with Showtime and I could not be more excited. From major awards nominations to conspiracy theories galore, you'll want to catch up on the last two seasons ASAP and get in on all the buzz.

[Matt Rogers]

It's about a high school girls soccer team who gets stranded in the woods after their plane crashes and need to do some pretty crazy stuff to survive.

[Bowen Yang]

This season their mental states begin to fracture and normal teenage girl drama is elevated by life and death circumstances. Fast forward to adulthood and everything they did in the wilderness seems to be coming back to hunt them.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the perfect mashup of horror, mystery, suspense and laughs with an absolute star studded cast. I'm talking friend of the show, Melanie Lynskey, Tawny Cypress, Lauren Ambrose, Simone Cassel, special guests Elijah Wood and Hilary Swank with Christina Ricci and more. Plus, this season promises to answer so many burning questions.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't miss the new season of Yellowjackets now streaming on the Paramount plus with Showtime plan.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay Bowen, you know what we need to discuss Virgin voyages. I mean have you heard the tea? It's giving luxury. It's giving adults only chic. It's giving no kids screaming by the pool.

[Bowen Yang]

Ooh, I'm more than familiar. Imagine this all in voyage pricing over $1,000 in value. Wi fi tips, entertainment and dining included. Even at the Michelin curated specialty restaurants. Like what? No hidden fees, My wallet just exhaled.

[Matt Rogers]

And let's talk about the vibes. 90% of cabins have a private terrace with your very own Hand woven virgin red hammock. So you're just swinging there, staring at the glittering sea, sipping champagne. It's main character energy.

[Bowen Yang]

Plus it's award winning travel and leisure and Conde Nastraters Choice two years running. And they've got everything from themed cruises to Incredible itineraries for 2025 and 2026. North America, Iceland, the Mediterranean. I mean, come on.

[Matt Rogers]

And if you're like, I need sun. They got Caribbean escapes this winter. You could be sipping a cocktail in San Juan instead of freezing your face off.

[Bowen Yang]

Virgin Voyages is the moment. Adults only, lux as hell, and zero stress. Look it up, book it and thank us later.

[Matt Rogers]

Book now@virgin voyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

[Bowen Yang]

You know, a good wedding is like an amazing symphony. From the food to the music, to the fashion. Honey to the style.

[Matt Rogers]

When it all comes together, all these things, you can expect love to grow. And that's good because the wedding should all be about that. Creating an atmosphere and an environment where love can. What's the word? Flourish.

[Bowen Yang]

Flourish. You know, a wedding is all about achieving the vision. And with Zola, you can plan your entire wedding in one convenient place. From the day you get engaged and search for the venue. The day you send out your save the dates, make your registry, and even taste your cake, Zola has literally everything you need to make the whole process super easy.

[Matt Rogers]

The first and only stop you need to make on your wedding planning journey is Zola. They've thought of everything you'll need and have built every tool to get you to I do.

[Bowen Yang]

Zola will give you expert guidance and unparalleled support. Their wedding pros are on call to walk couples from question to answer anytime.

[Matt Rogers]

Every Zola wedding is as unique as the couple planning it.

[Bowen Yang]

Start [e-mail] that's Z O L A dot com.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, well, this has been, you know, very sweet time, but now we have to get a little nasty and ready with that. I don't think so, honey.

[Bowen Yang]

That's right. This is. I don't think so, honey. This is our segment where we each take one minute to rail against something in culture. Matt, do you have something?

[Matt Rogers]

You know what? I do have something. It's time.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Tate McRae]

Is it in culture? It can just be anything.

[Matt Rogers]

It can be anything. And mine is. Mine is very much in life. I'm not doing.

[Tate McRae]

I don't think mine's honey. It's honey in life, too.

[Matt Rogers]

In life.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, we'll all do life. I don't think so, honey. This is Matt Rogers. I don't Think so. Honey's time starts now.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think so, honey. Man bun. I still see some of you doing it. And can I say, like, it was never. Was never it. The tiny little man bun was never it. And I'm looking around. I don't think I see anyone here that's giving a man bunny. I see potential on a couple people. I see potential hair length, where you could give that. As someone who is starting to wade into the might grow my hair out community, I have a buzz right now for people that are only listening. I may grow my hair out. I'm committed to 30 seconds, no little bun. Cause I'm gonna show you a video of me with long hair, and it actually looks good. I put a wig on, okay? If you're gonna grow your hair out, just give it a style. Give it something. Just the. The tossing it up into a messy bun. You are not iconic girls from my high school.

[Bowen Yang]

You're not.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, the only way you can toss your hair up into a messy blind and come out and have it be slay is if you are an iconic girl from my high school. You know what I'm saying?

[Tate McRae]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

These girls that came in, like, the sweatpants with the top rolled down on the slides and the messy, messy bun and lacrosse sweatshirt. Only you with the messy bun. Everyone else, especially you gentlemen, it's got to stop.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's one minute.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay?

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

That's where I'm at on that. And you know what has really pushed me over the edge? It's, you know, the old photos of Justin Baldoni. I don't like when he had the.

[Tate McRae]

Hair out when he was in Jane the Virgin.

[Matt Rogers]

When he was in Jane the Virgin.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

And he would give people know about pop culture when he would serve a bun. I was like, see, I can't believe we ever did this.

[Tate McRae]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

But you're. And you are thinking about growing your hair out.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm thinking about growing my hair out. I'm just saying, if it ever gets to the point where you see me and I have long hair, and I'm like, you know what, guys? Hold on a second. And you see me toss it up into a bunch, please stop me and remind me of this. Play the clip.

[Tate McRae]

I like your hair right now. I like your hair right now.

[Matt Rogers]

You thought you like it. Buzz.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, it looks really good.

[Matt Rogers]

Thank you.

[Bowen Yang]

It complements your. Your skull shape.

[Tate McRae]

It does have a good bone structure.

[Matt Rogers]

That's what you wish for.

[Tate McRae]

That's hard because a lot of people, like, don't have a naturally Good skull shape.

[Matt Rogers]

Could you buzz?

[Tate McRae]

No, I don't think so.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, you have such great hair. Why would you.

[Tate McRae]

I don't think I could buzz.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Tate McRae]

I feel like I have a strange head shape.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you get tummy time as a child? Yeah. You must have gotten.

[Tate McRae]

What's tummy time?

[Bowen Yang]

Tummy time is when you're a baby. They flip you over on your tummy so that you're not lying on your. On the back of your head, the whole.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, I didn't get any of that.

[Tate McRae]

I don't know. I feel like they must have forgot mine was a little flat.

[Matt Rogers]

Give me tummy time. I have a little bit of a flat head, too. Want to tell you about that.

[Tate McRae]

You know what's a tip for babies is my mom says that your hips form before you're two years old. So if you stretch your baby's hips before you're two years old. She did this to me. She would stretch my splits before I was 2.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Tate McRae]

And so my hips are naturally open because she formed my hips that way. Whoa. So that's a trick if you want to have.

[Matt Rogers]

You got it from your mama?

[Tate McRae]

I did get it from my mom.

[Bowen Yang]

You got it from your mom? Put me on the clock. I've got something.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait.

[Matt Rogers]

Hold on. He's about to go against his mother. I know this. He's about to drag. Okay, wait. Hold on. Okay. This is bowen. Why don't I have my thing? This is Bowen Yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so, honey. Not my mom, but just the hip architecture in human beings in general. Do you know we have our hip flexors go from back to front, and we have side to, like, side, like, going across the pelvis. It's crazy. It's the. I think it's where I'm gonna go. It's how I'm gonna die. Something's gonna happen to me in the hips. Like, I'm trying to use them in dance settings, in maybe a sexual setting, and it's just not. 30 seconds. I'm not executing the way I want to execute on the hips.

[Matt Rogers]

Your hips do lie.

[Bowen Yang]

I've been doing the same split stretch routine for the past two years. I'm no closer to getting into the splits. My mom should have done this. What your mom did 15 seconds. What Tatiana's mom did, and I mang flopped. And I can't believe. Listen, it's like, the one childhood school trauma that stays with me is your hips is my. All these girls and boys were doing the splits in front of me. And I was like, I want to do that. I still, after a lifetime of stretching, can't.

[Matt Rogers]

That's one minute.

[Tate McRae]

Can't do the splits.

[Matt Rogers]

That's. That's really. I can't do it either.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, I guess, I guess you can't answer how you got to do it because your mom kind of did the work for you.

[Tate McRae]

Uh huh. Well, but then I. You just stretched out. I did rhythmic gymnastics when I was younger too.

[Matt Rogers]

I was gonna say.

[Tate McRae]

So they would, they would take your like first leg on a chair, your back leg on a chair, and they'd sit on your knees. It's.

[Bowen Yang]

No, that's crazy.

[Tate McRae]

And you'd just be sobbing for like.

[Matt Rogers]

Minutes, just like, why is this happening? And they're like, so you can one day become the queen of the dance break.

[Tate McRae]

Literally, like, actually, this is for your.

[Matt Rogers]

Own Good, Tate McRae.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, maybe that hole of pain is from. That is from. That is from the chairs.

[Bowen Yang]

From this thing sitting on you.

[Matt Rogers]

So you were that girl who could just whip out a cartwheel.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. Oh, 100%.

[Matt Rogers]

I was so jealous of you growing up.

[Tate McRae]

I was that bitch.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, you were that bitch. You were like flipping in the back y. Always upside down.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, well, for greedy, you literally shot your leg up like a full 180 like straight line up and down. And I was like, how do you do this?

[Tate McRae]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

It's that, it's that after you slay so hard, do you just laugh because you're like, did it again. Is that a weird question?

[Tate McRae]

I wish it was that easy.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. All I'm saying is if I would was you and I just tore it.

[Tate McRae]

Up, could you imagine me just like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes, that's what we're saying. If I was you and I just came out and was like two hands on me and just like eight, I would be like, whatever. Like, I'm that bitch.

[Tate McRae]

Maybe that's what I should start doing.

[Matt Rogers]

You have a very high degree of that girl ability.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, that's a word.

[Tate McRae]

I made up a little giggle at the end.

[Matt Rogers]

That girlable.

[Bowen Yang]

That girlable.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, all your music videos are very that girlable.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

All the songs are have a high, high degree of that girl ability.

[Bowen Yang]

I think you should consider like the long black middle part like you have in. In sports car.

[Tate McRae]

Really?

[Bowen Yang]

That looked incredible.

[Tate McRae]

Really?

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

I think it made my face look a little long.

[Bowen Yang]

Wasn't thinking, though.

[Matt Rogers]

No one was thinking. That's the voice in your head.

[Tate McRae]

That's the voice in my Head. I felt like I needed, like, a layer or something. We didn't have enough time to cut a layer, though.

[Bowen Yang]

Really? Oh, it looked perfect because we. Because that was you next to the horse. Horse.

[Tate McRae]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

How was that horse? Looked scary.

[Tate McRae]

He was super nice, actually. He was really cute and sweet. I'm allergic to horses, but I do love them.

[Matt Rogers]

I love that interaction. You're a horse girl.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm allergic to horses, but I do love them.

[Matt Rogers]

I just can't help but feel like I. I always. When I was little, my sister did gymnastics, and so all of her friends did gymnastics, and they were flipping, turning, screaming through the skies. Like, I was just like, why can't I move?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It's because my mom didn't sit on my hips.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Which is not what. I don't think that's what you did.

[Matt Rogers]

So not. You did rhythmic gymnastics, not, like, competitive.

[Bowen Yang]

Gymnastics with the ribbon.

[Tate McRae]

And I had a ball routine.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

Where you, like, put the ball in between your back and you feel like you've, like, literally, like, start, like, do a somersault with it.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you ever think about, like, who thought of that? Who thought to do that?

[Tate McRae]

I have no idea. And I also have. Don't understand the reason for it. Like, I don't understand why I trained that hard to, like, fit a ball between my back and do.

[Matt Rogers]

It's crazy. Can we, for a second think about every gymnastics event? It's all insane. Uneven bars. It's like, what? It's like someone's one. Someone one day was like, you know what it's gonna be? Girls are gonna run as fast as they can towards a brick. They're going to fly off the brick hands first, flip in the air and land on their feet. And if they don't, it's.

[Bowen Yang]

It's flop.

[Tate McRae]

It is, but it is. It's such an interesting thing because it's the same with dance. Like, I did a music video yesterday. I'm like, I am literally dying for dance right now. And then dance category is dance. I'm just, like, exhausted, bruised, like, like, literally killing myself. And just for a dance break.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Like, that is such a weird concept.

[Bowen Yang]

One day shoot.

[Tate McRae]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, that's. You got it knocked.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. I have bruises everywhere. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I can't believe you came here.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

What you didn't see is she had to drag herself to the seat.

[Tate McRae]

I did.

[Matt Rogers]

And we didn't help. We sat here, we were like, yeah, it was cold. Cold as hell. Okay. It is your opportunity and time to do it.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

And I can tell that you're gonna tear.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. This is Tate McCrae's. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.

[Tate McRae]

Okay, so I'm only doing this because my mom just came into town, and it's just a frustration I've had with CarPlay in my car.

[Matt Rogers]

Speak on that.

[Tate McRae]

So whenever my parents. So it's a little finicky. Like the USB and the Bluetooth switches on and off a little bit, but then I get to a point where it's pretty consistent, and I walk in, it clicks, whatever. My parents come into town, and every single phone hooks up all of a sudden, and they're like. I'm like, guys, turn off your Bluetooth. And they have no idea how to turn off the Bluetooth.

[Matt Rogers]

30 seconds.

[Tate McRae]

So it's just like, swipe, swipe. My mom, dad. I like, grab their phones. It is the most frustrating.

[Bowen Yang]

Speak on it.

[Tate McRae]

And I'm just like, why does the car have to click to their phones? They don't live here. This isn't their car. Why is it connecting to this 15? And it's just really hard because I feel like I lose ownership of my car when they come into town because I can't listen to my music. I can't. My navigation is off, and it's just really frustrating.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's one minute. Say, I don't think so, honey.

[Tate McRae]

I don't think so, honey.

[Matt Rogers]

There we go.

[Bowen Yang]

CarPlay.

[Matt Rogers]

Now it's officially etched in time.

[Bowen Yang]

Now it's etched in time. CarPlay should know that it's a dad phone or a mom phone.

[Tate McRae]

It also should just be better. I don't understand why it's not better.

[Matt Rogers]

No, it's gonna kill us. Carplay is gonna kill us. Because when it starts to act up and you're driving and you kind of that panic attack yourself from being like.

[Tate McRae]

My turn, is it? Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Well, for me, it's like, I need music to be playing in the car. Like, I'm not. Not maybe a podcast, but usually. No, usually music.

[Tate McRae]

Music.

[Matt Rogers]

And when. And to say nothing of directions.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Which is also a thing with CarPlay. It's like, you cut off my music and directions. Why am I in the car to begin with?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

And now I'm on the road, like, hello, Doing surgery, like, on my car. And I'm like, this was supposed to be easier.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It's not like everything they say that makes things easier. That's why I don't trust the self driving cars. I'm like, no, thanks.

[Tate McRae]

Scary. That is really scary.

[Matt Rogers]

It's crazy. Every time they have made an advancement in cars, I'm like, I. I feel as though we can go back to basics.

[Tate McRae]

I think so, too.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you doing Google Maps or Apple Maps for directions?

[Tate McRae]

Apple Maps.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't say that.

[Tate McRae]

Why are you guys Google Maps?

[Bowen Yang]

No. No, we're not. You're so sweet about that.

[Matt Rogers]

Why are you guys Google Maps? No, we all have Google Maps, but I just feel like Apple Maps is so tough, actually.

[Tate McRae]

Really? No, it's the complete opposite, really.

[Bowen Yang]

Sometimes Apple Maps is really, really good.

[Tate McRae]

I think it's just a cleaner layout. Okay. I think that when you. It's just, like, less, like, clunky.

[Matt Rogers]

All right.

[Tate McRae]

Like, you zoom in on Google.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

Apple Maps is just automatic.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. You know what came and went ways?

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, people.

[Matt Rogers]

It's still going strong.

[Tate McRae]

People still use it.

[Bowen Yang]

Ways is still ways still out there.

[Matt Rogers]

We just lost a huge ways.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Sponsorship.

[Tate McRae]

Big chunk of the pipe. Yeah. Turned it off.

[Matt Rogers]

And we were struggling, so. They're gonna ask for a webby back.

[Bowen Yang]

Damn it.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, we needed that.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Take our Ruby back.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. If you want it.

[Tate McRae]

Sure.

[Matt Rogers]

Tate McRae accepts this Webby on our behalf.

[Tate McRae]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

You know, if you. If you. If you flick it, it springs. Look, do that.

[Bowen Yang]

Doesn't it feel kind of good to put your hand in, like, see, like, this?

[Tate McRae]

Is that what you're trying to make me do?

[Matt Rogers]

It's like, doesn't it feel kind of good to put your hand in it to justify that he was doing it.

[Tate McRae]

It does feel good.

[Matt Rogers]

It feels great.

[Bowen Yang]

Bracelet. But not really.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bowen Yang]

Exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

This has been such a nice time getting to know you. You're fucking cool as hell.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

You're so talented.

[Tate McRae]

Thanks, guys.

[Matt Rogers]

And we're gonna come see you.

[Tate McRae]

Please can. We would love.

[Matt Rogers]

We want to come see you at msg.

[Tate McRae]

Please come.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Tate McRae]

That would be so fun.

[Matt Rogers]

And maybe even by then, we'll have the two hands choreo down.

[Bowen Yang]

I think we will. I'm gonna do that.

[Matt Rogers]

You'll see us in the crowd, like, literally hurting everyone around us.

[Bowen Yang]

I think that's gonna. We're gonna start up the TikTok trend.

[Tate McRae]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

We're gonna do it perfect.

[Matt Rogers]

Has there not been a TikTok trend since started at this point?

[Tate McRae]

I think there is for that dance, probably.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you dictate what the trend is?

[Tate McRae]

I don't think you really can.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Tate McRae]

You can do, like, just post stuff.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

And if it trends, it trends.

[Matt Rogers]

Because, like, it wasn't. There wasn't Charlie. Someone else made that.

[Bowen Yang]

Someone else Someone else did the app.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Tate McRae]

That was good.

[Matt Rogers]

It was so good.

[Tate McRae]

That was good.

[Bowen Yang]

That's what you want. I mean, we'll be that girl for you, you know?

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. That's what you want.

[Bowen Yang]

That's what.

[Matt Rogers]

That's what you want to have someone else.

[Tate McRae]

This is a marketing meeting. Next.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. Over. The team's all here.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, so close to what is out right now. Please do it.

[Matt Rogers]

Have some fun for once in your life.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah, fucking go.

[Bowen Yang]

Listen to Flo Milli spitball.

[Tate McRae]

Have a glass of wine, listen to the album, sit back.

[Matt Rogers]

Is that your optimal vibe for it? Like, have a glass of wine.

[Tate McRae]

I think so. And like a chill.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tate McRae]

Don't think too hard. I mean, but think harder. Don't think too hard.

[Bowen Yang]

Think harder and then think later.

[Tate McRae]

And then don't think.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't do it. We're getting mixed messages from tape.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah. Just completely contradicting myself. Every album.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. We end every episode with a song. I guess the apples we already messed up. It's this.

[Tate McRae]

You started it.

[Matt Rogers]

Hey.

[Bowen Yang]

N1.

[Tate McRae]

That's the best part of the day.

[Matt Rogers]

I do love the N1.

[Tate McRae]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

So that's for you to do at home. Bye. Bye.

[Bowen Yang]

Las Colduristas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.

[Matt Rogers]

Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier.

[Bowen Yang]

And produced by Becca Ramos, edited and mixed by Doug Behm and Monique Laborde.

[Matt Rogers]

And our music is by Henry Kabirsky.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Visit premierprotein.com and go to where to buy, to find a retailer near you or to find where to buy online.

[Matt Rogers]

Premier Protein sweeten the journey. Hey, y'all. I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. When youn're Invisible is my love letter to the working class people and immigrants who shaped me. Season 2 shares stories about community and being underestimated. All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, this sucks, let's do something about it.

[Tate McRae]

We get paid to serve you, but we're made out of the same things.

[Bowen Yang]

It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the testament.

[Tate McRae]

Listen to when youn're Invisible on the.

[Matt Rogers]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[Matt Rogers]

Ow.

[Tate McRae]

Go slower.

[Bowen Yang]

From Blumhouse TV, iHeart podcasts and Ember 20 comes an all new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hurst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend. I've been spending all my time looking for answers about what happened to Santi and what's the to find a missing person, sleep with everyone he knew, Obviously. Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Matt Rogers]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro and I've been.

[Bowen Yang]

Lucky enough to do stuff like Broad.

[Matt Rogers]

City and Narcos and Roadhouse. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough.

[Bowen Yang]

Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history.

[Matt Rogers]

Each week I'll be sitting down with.

[Bowen Yang]

Some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians.

[Matt Rogers]

People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, and Joseph Gordon Levitt.

[Bowen Yang]

I love storytelling and I love you.

[Matt Rogers]

So I can't wait.

[Bowen Yang]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on.

[Matt Rogers]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

[Bowen Yang]

You get your podcasts.