MY DIASPORA (w/ Matt + Bowen)

Summary

Las Culturistas: "MY DIASPORA" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

Podcast: Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Date: September 10, 2025
Network: Big Money Players & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode titled “MY DIASPORA,” Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang embark on a personal and pop-cultural journey, reflecting on their recent experiences at Apple’s exclusive event in the Bay Area and deep-diving into recent music awards, queer allyship, and iconic pop moments. With characteristic wit and candor, they explore what 'diaspora' means to each of them, share backstage stories, celebrate cultural heroes (like Regina King and Heidi Gardner), and perform their beloved "I Don't Think So, Honey" rants. It's a free-flowing, intimate episode full of humor, insight, and cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Apple Event Recap & “The Diaspora” Concept

[02:18–06:35]

• Bay Area Adventure: Matt and Bowen were invited to Apple Park for an exclusive keynote event (“Awe Dropping,” or “Awe Inspiring” as they attempt to remember). The vibes at Apple Park are compared to “severance” (from the TV show) for its design:
  • Matt: "It's giving severance. Okay. In terms of design." [03:04]
• Meeting Regina King: At a pre-announcement dinner, they sat next to Regina King, leading to heartfelt reflections on meeting their heroes:
  • Bowen: "Regina King sitting next to me... this is a true hero of mine." [05:27]
• Beta Blockers & Social Anxiety: Bowen credits beta blockers for easing social anxiety at big events, jokingly advocating for them:
  • Bowen: “Can I be the spokesperson for beta blockers?” [06:07]
• Pop Culture at Apple: Tech reveals like language-translating AirPods and the new "iPhone Air" spark joyful, campy banter:
  • Matt: “I’m excited about the iPhone air. She’s cunty.” [06:41]

2. Diaspora, Misunderstandings, and Cultural Identity

[04:00–04:44]

• Both hosts riff on how they originally misunderstood "diaspora."
  • Bowen: “Remember for years I used the word diaspora wrong. I thought diaspora meant struggle.” [04:00]
• They joke about redefining the term, tying it back to their own histories and challenges.

3. VMAs Breakdown & Pop Star Praise

[11:15–30:02]

• Detailed, punchy discussion on VMA highlights:
  • Rain on Me reunion (Ariana Grande & Lady Gaga)
  • Sabrina Carpenter’s advocacy and performances
  • Tate McRae’s “level up” moment on-stage
  • Mariah Carey receiving the Video Vanguard Award after “never winning a VMA in her entire career”
    • Matt: “This woman put Jack McBrayer on the map. Sorry, Tina.” [21:37]
• Segue into musical discussions and hilarious explanations of K-pop-related drinking games (Apatuh), and commentary on the shifting meaning of VMA categories.
• They banter on “defeat” vs. “beat” for pop award language:
  • Matt: “Defeat is so severe.” [15:29]
• Celebrate the winning Video for Good, debating charity underwear donations and meaningful pop impact.

4. Pop Culture, Queer Allyship & Social Commentary

[35:04–38:48]

• Analyze “queerbaiting,” straight celebrities in queer spaces, and the Nick Jonas shirtless era:
  • Matt: “If you chased Nick Jonas away from posting thirst traps, you’re not helping, you’re hurting.” [36:52]
• Reflect on how performative masculinity and inclusivity play out in today’s pop culture.

5. SNL Insights & Farewells

[53:29–58:53]

• Bowen prepares for his return to SNL, reflecting on returning cast and honoring departing ones, notably Heidi Gardner:
  • Matt: “Heidi Gardner, you are one of the greats. You will go down as one of the funniest people ever.” [54:20]
  • Bowen shares Heidi’s generosity writing for other cast members and her huge heart.
• They give love to other departing cast members, emphasizing community and celebration in the comedy scene.

6. “I Don’t Think So, Honey” Rants

[63:34–68:14]

• Matt’s Rant: Frustration over not being able to watch "Survivor Australia vs the World" in the U.S., and lauds Parvati Shallow’s gameplay.
  • “Parvati Shallow, you will always be… the best Survivor player of all time.” [64:13]
• Bowen’s Rant: Laments lack of celebration for the 10th anniversary of Carly Rae Jepsen’s “Emotion” album:
  • “Where are the parades? Where are the dinners? Where is the discourse at all?” [67:21]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Diaspora’s Meaning:

  • Bowen: “I thought diaspora meant struggle. Well, my diaspora is—I was gay growing up, didn’t know what diaspora really is.” [04:06]

• On Apple Park Design:

  • Matt: “It’s giving severance, okay?” [03:04]

• On Meeting Regina King:

  • Bowen: “...this is a true hero of mine.” [05:27]

• On Nick Jonas Thirst Traps:

  • Matt: “If you chased Nick Jonas away from posting thirst traps, you’re not helping, you’re hurting.” [36:52]

• VMAs, Lady Gaga:

  • Matt: “Artist of the year, Lady Gaga. Absolutely. That feels right to me.” [13:29]
  • Bowen: “That was a legend star making performance.” (re: Tate McRae) [11:52]

• SNL Farewell to Heidi Gardner:

  • Matt: “Heidi Gardner, you are one of the greats... a deeply talented, good person.” [54:20]

• On Carly Rae Jepsen’s “Emotion”:

  • Bowen: “Where are the parades? Where are the dinners? Where is the discourse at all?” [67:21]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:18 – Arrival at Apple Park, event recap, belly button banter
• 04:00 – Defining “diaspora” and personal history
• 05:27 – Regina King dinner story
• 06:36 – Apple tech unveil, Beta blockers
• 11:15 – VMAs discussion: performances & winners
• 21:37 – Mariah Carey’s cultural impact
• 35:04 – Queerbaiting & Nick Jonas “thirst traps” discourse
• 53:29 – Bowen returns to SNL, farewells to cast
• 54:20 – Tribute to Heidi Gardner
• 63:34 – “I Don’t Think So, Honey”: Survivor & Carly Rae Jepsen
• 67:21 – Lack of celebration for “Emotion” 10th anniversary

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Tone & Style

The hosts are playful, irreverent, and self-aware, consistently breaking the fourth wall with in-jokes, running gags (rules of culture), and comedic vulnerability. They blend niche pop-culture references with genuine emotional candor—celebratory, occasionally snarky, but always welcoming.

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Conclusion

This episode is a microcosm of all things Las Culturistas: witty queer banter, heartfelt tributes to icons, personal stories about “diaspora” and identity, and a hilarious, hyper-current pop cultural lens. Matt and Bowen celebrate their own journey while uplifting others and poking fun at the ever-turning wheels of the culture machine. Pop fans and comedy lovers will revel in the charismatic chemistry and sharp insights, especially with quotable moments and high-spirited cultural critiques.

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End of Summary.

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A Casamigos margarita.

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Everyone loves a Casamigos margarita. She really is that girl.

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It's true. Everyone can get behind her.

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She's a little tangy.

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She's good Any which way Anything goes with my Casamigos and that's rule of culture number 87. Cause anything goes with my Casamigos Please drink responsibly.

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Is that culture? Yes. Goodness.

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Wow.

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Las Culturistas Ding da dong.

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Las Culturistas calling. Where would you say we are?

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I would say we are in the Menlo Park, Stamford, Atherton, Mountain View area area. We are in the bay, as it were. We were very lucky to be invited to the Awe dropping. That's the name of the event this year. The awe dropping. Awe inspiring. No, hold on, let me.

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We better get this right.

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It is.

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What Bowen is trying to say is that Apple invited us to come be a part of, not be a part of. To come and well, I guess be a part of.

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Part of it.

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We watched the keynote here at Apple Park. We got to come walk around Apple Park. It's. It is pretty jaw dropping.

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It's giving severance. It's giving severance. Okay.

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In terms of design.

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In terms of design. And everyone's kind of giving any. Just kidding. I'm giving any. When I go there, I feel. I feel the sort of Hitchcock like camera move and then I like fritz out.

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Tell everyone what your belly button is giving. Girl.

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My belly button has only ever given any. Have you ever been with an Audi man? Yeah, I want. I want to know what it would like.

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But I've been with so many men.

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Did you put it in yet?

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What is mine? I actually have an odd belly button.

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We're going to have we got to see the most normal belly button I've ever seen.

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No, because can you see that it's like it's got Audi like properties to it?

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You mean, would you call this an in the air and Audi that is pure and. No, you're not so special, girl. Not. We're both pretty normal.

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Am I Diaspora. Remember for years I used the word diaspora wrong.

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You thought diaspora meant struggle.

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I thought diaspora meant struggle. Well, my diaspora is. I was gay growing up, didn't know what diaspora really is.

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It sounds like that. I mean, maybe we can really give it new meaning.

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Well, when people talk about the diaspora, right. It does feel like it could be the struggle. That's why the title of this app is called the Diaspora.

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Is called My Diaspora. My Diaspora.

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Well, parentheses.

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My struggle is my struggle. I mean, we got to have wonderful conversations with people.

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Yes. This was very cool.

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Can I tease something that you. A connection that I knew would happen deep in my bones.

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Go ahead.

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We go to this event. There's a gorgeous, intimate dinner that is set the night before the announcement. We look at the place cards. It's giving wedding. It's giving Heels on the Grass. One of the nominees for Things that.

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Women have to Do, a Walking Home.

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Alone award for thing that women have to do, which is one of them was Heels on a Grass at A wedding. It was very much giving wedding.

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Beautiful, beautiful dinner in Apple park, which was. Dinner was gorgeous.

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Look at the place cards. We are being watched by a phalanx of people and we see that the place cards are Bowen. Matt, Oscar winner Regina King.

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Regina King sitting next to me. And I was just. I love Regina King. Since the second I saw Regina King, of course. Like, and I'm like, okay, well, this is like a true hero of mine. You've known her for a few years because she hosted snl. I remember at the time, I've gone.

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On the record saying she's one of my favorite hosts.

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That you had such an amazing time with her. I just think she's one of the greats. And we had. Obviously won't share like our conversation, but we had the most beautiful convers. And I love Regina King.

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I'm so proud of you. Please don't let me be patronizing, but I, I feel like this is a situation when your anxiety and your nerves might have kicked in.

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Well, not on my new beta blocker.

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Not on the beta blocker. Thank God.

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Can I, can I, can I be the, the. The spokesperson for beta blockers? And there's. It's not going to be like the name droppy episode. You guys. Like, we, I just. We sat next to an extremely cool hero and that was just indicative of what the whole lovely event was. And if you follow tech, you know that lots of cool things were announced. I mean, I think the buzziest thing might be the AirPods that do language translation right?

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Let's say. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Although they. You were excited about the iPhone air.

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I'm excited about the iPhone air.

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That's very U coded.

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She's cunty. Yeah, that, that a cunty video.

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Glp. But for phones.

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She's taking the shot.

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She's taking. It's actually roller coaster number 16. IPhone. She's taking the shot.

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I think internally people are also calling it the Ozempic iPhone.

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Are they really?

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Yes, yes.

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Oh, did you hear that on the ground?

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I heard that on the ground. Fun little. Fun little gay guy. You know, gay. Gay guy speak.

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Lots of different guys right there. Straight guys, gay guys, guys. You can't tell. And of course, women now, which is of course falls under gay guys.

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Yes. Women are some of my favorite gay guys. And that's a rule of culture.

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RuPaul. RuPaul. That's a rule of culture. Which one is that?

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50 women are some of my favorite gay guys.

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Katie's out there. Shout out.

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Shout out now. Propranolol Is that what you're on?

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Yes, I am.

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How does it feel to take a. Take a. Does it make you lol. More it. Well, I guess there should be called propray. Yes.

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Lol. So, to be transparent. Pro prepayes, y'.

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All.

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Pro. Yes. Law.

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Yes, y' all.

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Or proper. Yes. Yes, y'. All. What's that song? I don't.

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I'm not sure.

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Oh. Oh. Past that. Dutch.

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Yes.

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Missy Elliot. Anyway, that's. But that's beside the point. Missy Elliott is beside the point. It's actually real coach number 30.

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Missy Ellis is beside the point when she's not.

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Yes. During the Culture Awards, I did realize my anxiety is a problem. As I've documented on this podcast, I am on beta blockers now. I take them when I need them. I highly recommend Much better.

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I'm so happy to hear that. But needless to say, we had a fabulous night, and I love that my sister and the. The Queen King. Her name is literally Queen King. Got to connect. Not to. You know what. What do you want us to say? We got invited to the Apple.

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I'm sorry, but if I get the opportunity to talk to one of the coolest people ever, I'll probably tell you about it. So that did happen. It was. It was fun. I mean, like, we. We're still here. We're leaving tonight. We're actually getting on a red eye this evening because we have two episodes of the podcast that we're recording tomorrow with guests. Very exciting guests. Should we reveal who's on the show next week?

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I say no.

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Okay, never mind.

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Let's not.

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Should it just be a drop?

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I think it'll be a drop. And people will.

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You're gonna gag.

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We'll have fun.

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Let's just say if you're a fan of this podcast and you know our interests, you're gonna be excited and interested to hear what's coming.

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Here's the Easter egg, which is not the way that Easter eggs are really done. It's back to school.

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Yes.

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It's back to school.

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Yes. That's all school is, a session. And pencils.

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Pencils up. Pencils up.

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Whoa. Should title of Happy Pencils Up.

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First time. We're predetermining the title.

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The title of that first time.

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Are you saying the app for next week should be Pencils Up? Pencils up is this week? Yeah, I thought it was.

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Find it next week with our guests.

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Yes, of course. I thought you. I thought this one was going to be my diaspor, but I like Pencils up, too.

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I don't think I've ever been so. Not nervous is not the right word, actually. Yeah, maybe it is nervous. I do. We've had some incredible guests. Like what we're doing tomorrow, it's important to me. It's special to me.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah. This is a big moment now.

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It'll be really, really nice.

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And I just love edging y'. All. I love that y' all are hard at home. I love it. I love thinking about it.

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Yeah, I love thinking about it, too.

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What's on your mind today?

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Mostly just wanting to just figure, you know what? I just. I hate a red eye. I'm sorry.

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Yeah, no, no, no.

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That's literally been taking up a lot of. And not an interesting take at all.

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No, I. But some people really do.

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They.

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They pick the red eye. They choose the red eye. Greta does that.

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Of course. My thing is it's, you know, it's always good in theory, and then once you're. Once you're on it, whatever, it's all fine. It's when you land.

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It's when you land and when you.

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Get off the plane and do that. That zombie walk that you're like, this is. I paid for that.

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Yeah. It's going west to east, which is the brutal thing.

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It usually is, I guess, because that way, like.

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Well, that's. I guess a red eye. Yeah.

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Time travels. It's just as a. Time is additive.

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Remember the Ryan Cabrera song, Time Goes so slow. Time moves so slow. No, I don't. You don't remember that? I have Ryan Cabrera on the brain because we saw an appearance from Jessica and Ashlee simpson at the VMAs.

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Yes. Yes. Should we talk about the VMAs?

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Yeah. What was your favorite part?

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My favorite part was just the mere fact that Ariana Grande and Lady Gaga were sitting next to each other.

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Yeah, I did like to see that Rain on Me reunion.

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Very fun.

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Would you call Ariana the big winner of the night? I would.

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I think it would be Ari Gaga.

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Sabrina.

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Sabrina. I mean, Tate was a great winner in my eyes. I think she. God, she's a good performer, that one.

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Wait, it Winners in terms of how good her performance was. Did she win a vma?

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I don't know if she won anything. I was not keeping up with the actual win.

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Let's actually look and see what won.

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But I'm saying, like, Tate McRae, that was. That was legendary. That was. That was a legend star making performance.

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Yeah.

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No, she's had many at this up until this point. But that was. I think that was a level up for sure.

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That was an extreme. But also, if you see her perform live, like, you're going to get the dancing. And I do think, like, when you're on the VMAs, it is the time for you to whip out your dancing. I thought Sabrina's dancing was really level, though.

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Fabulous dancing. And I love that the advocacy, the. The allyship for trans people was off the stage as well. She threw a Sabrina 54 party. Love that.

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Love that girl. By the way, everyone all of a sudden coming out. Wow. The Sabrina album is really growing on me. Yeah. Because that's what happens when you allow things to marinate, when you don't have the knee jerk.

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Literally before the. We talked about this before the album even comes out. People are coming out with their quick responses. Okay.

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You wouldn't just eat a steak off a cow. You have to let it marinate before you can eat it. To say nothing of cooking it. There's so. There's such a process when it comes to meat and also pop music. Yeah. Especially with the culture number 16. There's such a process when it comes.

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To meat and also.

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And also hot music. Speaking of meat, the video of the year presented by Burger King. This is a real fact. Did go to Ariana Grande for Brighter Days Ahead. Thank you for that.

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Thank you for that. Ariana Grande and elderly prosthetic makeup. That is camp. That is. I heard her being an old ass at Cerebro.

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Not since Rose have we seen such an old performance.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Not since Gloria S. Stewart.

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Gloria Stewart, Artist of the year, Lady Gaga. Absolutely. That feels right to me. Best new artist, Alex Warren. I have to say, I have an Alex Horan blind spot. But they talk about this person. Yeah, I think.

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I think it's fine.

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Okay.

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That's my thought.

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Song of the year, Apatu Love that. You can't deny people are listening to it.

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You can't deny that it's a song about a game that you do that plays with her friends in Korea.

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Is that what it is? Like a little hand?

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It's like a patty cake sort of thing.

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Okay. Because it could mean so many things. It could mean like someone spitting apartment it could be apartment because it's a drinking game.

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I'm sorry.

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I mean, I definitely like the song. I just. I did not know what it was about and was scared to ask.

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It's a. It's. It's based on the sort of. Okay. It's patek in that everyone puts their drinks in the middle, they chant apatsu apartment. And then the leader calls out a random number. Players move their hands to the top of the stack, counting out loud. The person whose hand lands on the call number has to drink. Sounds fun.

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It does sound fun. I mean, maybe next week we'll play Apatuh. Where? I don't know. I don't think we will. I think if there was gonna be a time to do Apa to Regina, it would have been last night. We should have broke the mics. Or we could have learned what Apatu was and done it today on the episode. But I just don't think we will.

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No.

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Best pop artist, Sabrina Carpenter.

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Great.

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Feels exactly right to me. Best pop. I'm guessing that means best pop video. They've kind of stopped using the word video, you know?

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Why do you think that is?

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I guess there's video of the year, but then it's called best. There's. There's best pop artists and then there's best pop. So best pop artist was Sabrina Carpenter.

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And what's best pop?

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Who defeated Ariana Grande in this category? And then best pop was Ariana Grande brighted years ahead, which defeated Sabrina Carpenter. Man child.

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Defeat is so severe.

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Defeat is too much for me.

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You should say beat.

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Yeah. Best album, Sabrina Carpenter. Short and sweet again. It's the video Music Awards. I don't necessarily understand.

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Yeah.

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But I'm happy Sabrina won an award. Best collaboration. Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars dive with a smile. We can all agree, of course. Beat up to best hip hop Dochi Anxiety. Best R and B Mariah Carey type. Dangerous.

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Wonderful.

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Who also won the video vanguard of the year award. Bianca made an appearance. She did, yeah.

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Was Bianca the original mistress of mayhem? Dark haired rival clone?

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Yes. I think even Lady Gaga would say that.

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Daga would say that. But I encourage pop stars to do this more. I mean, I feel like we haven't had a moment like this since Britney was wrestling herself in a gown in the hold against Me music video.

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Yeah.

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Really? I always love when the pop stars are fighting themselves.

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You know who I think would be really good at that? I would love to see Dark Sabrina. Oh, dark Sabrina, I think would be really good.

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While I'm thrilled that she brought Jenna Ortega into the mix with the taste video, it felt like it could have also been Sabrina in a dark wig.

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Sabrina, you should have cast yourself. You played yourself when you didn't cast yourself.

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Fuck Ortega.

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I'll tell you it's prayer. Mariah the Video Vanguard Award after never winning a video music award in her entire career, I said this was true disrespect all along.

[A]

This woman put Jack McBrayer on the map. On the Map. Sorry, T. Nah.

[B]

Sorry, Tina.

[A]

Yeah, that is crazy.

[B]

Yo, thoughts on that?

[A]

I mean, please expand.

[B]

Oh, so many thoughts. First of all, there are so many Mariah Carey videos that earned. That should have earned this distinction. I would say Heartbreaker is one of the great pop music videos. Obsessed, even going all the way back. Like, you know, Mariah Carey directed the video for Fantasy herself, where she rides a roller coaster and is on the rollerblades. I mean, to direct while also acting in rollerblades. Not enough people think about how difficult that must be.

[A]

Has never done it. James. You know what?

[B]

Scorsese couldn't even listen. I know that Scorsese is trying his hand at acting. You know, I mean, not me. For the studio. Do it in rollerblades, and then you can be on Mariah Carey's level and sing.

[A]

And guess what, Marty? Yeah. Cranston still beat your ass.

[B]

Yeah. How's it feel, Marty?

[A]

Marty.

[B]

What if we lost culture to feud with Marty?

[A]

I think we are. I think ever since I ran afoul of Fran Leibowitz, I think she probably recruited Marty to the cause of, like, that. That Asian guy.

[B]

Wow. I forget that you and Fran Lebowitz had beef. As Cardi would say, a debate. We didn't touch on any of that.

[A]

We haven't really touched on the Cardi thing.

[B]

I loved it. I hate that her time was wasted.

[A]

I hate their time is wasted. But doesn't get any better than that in terms of album promo.

[B]

No.

[A]

I thought she handled herself very well. Even when she did curse our. Throw that thing at that fucking disgusting ass paparazzo.

[B]

She made a point.

[A]

She was like. The fact that not a. Like, a woman would never ask me that. It's not like. It's not that she said the fact that you would never ask a man that. It's the fact that a woman would not ask me that. Yeah, I think, like, kind of a fun. Not fun. It's like. It's like an interesting reversal that you don't hear super often.

[B]

I love Cardi. I'm team Cardi. I'll always be team Cardi.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I. I just. Yeah. I mean, I'm really looking forward to the album. You realize it's been, I think, like, seven years since Invasion of Privacy, which is one of the great albums.

[A]

One of the great albums. We don't have much to add.

[B]

No, I. One thing I would say is if I had a favorite moment from the whole trial, which I do, it feels like every year there's, like, a celebrity trial that. That sort of Breaks the mold. You know what it's going to be next year is probably because I think that they are going to trial. Right. The Blake and Ryan of it all.

[A]

Well, that's not gonna be fun.

[B]

No, it's gonna, it's not gonna be fun at all. I, I, I couldn't be less interested. But that's probably gonna be like the trial of next year.

[A]

You need fun people.

[B]

Cardi B is a fun person. Yeah. What was your favorite moment of the, of the Cardi trial?

[A]

I wasn't calling her fat. I was calling her a bitch.

[B]

I was calling her a. I mean, just security heavy. She looked like she could protect the building.

[A]

Oh, my God. She, she's a poet.

[B]

I couldn't. Did you watch any of, like, the way the lawyer was talking to her?

[A]

It was awful.

[B]

I was like, how can this be what it is? But okay. So another thing I learned, and I did learn what it means to be a hostile witness. That's an actual legal term.

[A]

I see.

[B]

I thought that a hostile witness was just to describe the behavior of a witness.

[A]

Attitude.

[B]

Let's say, like, oh, we have a hostile witness. But then it was like, here's Cardi B being called as a hostile witness, which means an antagonistic witness. A witness that is hostile to the defendant. The plaintiff.

[A]

I'm sorry. Yes.

[B]

So basically, like, like you say you.

[A]

Can be the defendant and the hostile witness.

[B]

Yes, I often, I think defendants are hostile witnesses because they're being asked questions that are adverse to them, protecting themselves.

[A]

The line of questioning from the, from whatever is, is, is. That's what's hot.

[B]

So basically, if you're a defendant, if you're a named defendant in a case and you take the stand, you are a hostile witness because they're trying to present facts against you against your best interest. Correct. So you are a hostile witness by definition. So, for example, had P. Diddy taken the stand, he would have been, he would have been a hostile witness. This is my understanding of it. I don't have a degree.

[A]

You're giving lawyer.

[B]

You think I'm giving lawyer? I do think that you give doctor and I give lawyer.

[A]

Absolutely. By the way, let's start the revolution and just pronounce it lawyer.

[B]

Lawyer.

[A]

It's more fun. Lawyer is something that is east coast culture sort of being thrust onto the rest of the, you know, because, you know, in the uk, they just call them barristers.

[B]

Yeah, I don't want to do that.

[A]

We're not calling them barristers. I mean, I guess, you know, they're attorneys. That's my lawyer. Lawyer. That is. That is. I'm sorry, that's New York culture being sort of imposed on the rest of America.

[B]

Can I say the legal process also a hint for next week. That might have given it away.

[A]

It gave it away. Girl. But that's okay.

[B]

Girl, huh? Title of that. Girl, comma, girl.

[A]

Girl.

[B]

Okay. So, yeah, I would say that I did learn that hostile witness thing. I do think that lawyer is similar.

[A]

To liar, no lie.

[B]

Hey. Because lawyers deal with liars.

[A]

I mean, they are liars sometimes. Everything about that 100. I'm just trying to make it a little bit easier for our ESL friends. Including me. Including me. Because guess what?

[B]

Bowen Yang is esl.

[A]

English was a trip. It still is.

[B]

Bowen Yang is ESL. It's actually number 14. Bowen Yang is ESL ETL.

[A]

ETL. If you want to get real.

[B]

If you want to get real, English is your third language, which is something I tell people about you. What do you tell people? What's a fact that you tell people about me? Because these are the facts I tell people about you. Did you actually know that Bowen. It's English as his third language. Did you know that Bowen was born in Brisbane? Did I tell the story of Bo? What's the story you tell about me?

[A]

It's. This is gonna get really. This is getting really earnest. And I don't mean to. I don't mean to embarrass you, but I say my Rogers is the funniest, smartest person alive.

[B]

Well, that's opinion based.

[A]

But that's fact. That's fact. And that. That is the story that I tell.

[B]

I'm tearing up. What do you think won the award for Video for Good? You as one of the stars of Wicked for Good.

[A]

Oh, that's so. Thank you for framing the question that way.

[B]

The nominees were.

[A]

Oh, well, don't tell me the nominees.

[B]

The. The Video for Good. Yeah, like. Like Video for Good, which I think is very similar to our category, which was a West Elm social change moment of the year.

[A]

I think that the winner for Video for Good was any. Any TikTok. That was. That was about. That was an ad for those. Like nostril expanders.

[B]

No, those should have won, though. They were actually robbed. They were the nostril expander because you go on TikTok and they would have you believe if you don't use them, you're going to choke and die while you.

[A]

That you are depriving your brain of the. That you're a dumber, uglier person for not breathing in more through your nose.

[B]

Did you ever buy them? No. You know what? I did buy?

[A]

Please.

[B]

TikTok got me with this one. Have you ever seen the push up board, which you can take the plugs out like the handles? Oh, yeah, that looks cool. I bought that.

[A]

And do you use it every day of your life?

[B]

You know what? Not every day of my life, but sometimes because it like, it like, isolates different muscles.

[A]

You can do different grips and different.

[B]

Yeah, head, shoulders, knees and toes. Knees and toes. All right, so the video for good.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Who. Who.

[A]

Just tell me who won. Unless it's more fun for you to dole out the.

[B]

If I tell you who won, it could. Well, I mean, that is giving away. It was won by Charlie XCX and Billie Eilish for Guess. It changed everything.

[A]

Well, it did show us, like, God, this is what a pile of underwear looks like. Maybe I should not be. Maybe I should be more sustainable in my, my apparel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, how did it win?

[B]

I guess I. What I'm gonna assume is that they watched it was qu.

[A]

Rights that.

[B]

And also, I'm sure, like, how was this the video part of the video?

[A]

Like, I'm sure, like, we missed something where it's like we're donating this much money to some like, oh, my God.

[B]

Wait, this is what it is. And this actually is furious. Okay. It, it wasn't. It wasn't any of this. This is what it was. The video ends with a message that the undergarments not worn in the video would be donated to I Support the Girls, an American charity which distributes underwear and period products to women suffering. Suffering.

[A]

Suffering. No, no. What do you mean?

[B]

They were. This is serious.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[B]

And period products to women suffering domestic violence, homelessness, and hardship. The charity later said that it had received 10, 000 pairs of underwear, most of which was sexy. And its founder, Dana Marlowe, stated that they welcomed such a donation on the grounds that it was important to them to encourage choice. Choice of what kind of, you know, undergarment to wear. She was quoted as saying, there's people for every style. Just because somebody is experiencing homelessness doesn't mean that they don't prefer to wear a thong. That was what Dana Marlow said talking to the BBC News beat in August 2024. So this won the VMA for good.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I, I, I.

[A]

We applaud.

[B]

I endorse this.

[A]

We endorse this. Dana, the only thing missing from your statement was you did not guess the color of her underwear.

[B]

It was the lacy black pair with the little bows. The ones I picked out for you in Tokyo. Or we're gonna go next year.

[A]

We're gonna go next year. I always. Whenever I hear that song, that. That remix, I always think of Billie Eilish going shopping for lacy underwear in Tokyo, picking it out for Charlie.

[B]

Presumably Charlie likes boys, but she knows I'd hit it. I actually think it's. This is a big statement. I.

[A]

Your favorite song off of it might.

[B]

Is it my favorite song off of Brat? No. You know what's my favorite song off of Brat? All Things Told. Well, the song, I think, is the biggest classic off Brat, and I'm just always gonna hold to. This is 360, and I think 360 and 365 together is truly special. But my favorite song off of Brat is one Dutch. Yeah. Sympathy is a knife.

[A]

Love. Love.

[B]

And Von Dutch is the closest second there's ever been the closest second there's ever been in recorded history. What's yours?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I don't know, man. Just something about 365.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Goes so hard where you're just like. Where you once, like on your. Unlike your third listen where you're finally starting to understand the pattern of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And how she breaks the pattern in the middle and then, like, comes back to it. I'm like, this is. This is fucking genius.

[B]

And that's saying something coming from noted Apple girl, Bowen Yang.

[A]

I just want to clear something up.

[B]

Yeah, this actually would be good. Good time to clear. Clear it up. Because it's. Brat is happening right now.

[A]

Brat is happening right now. Brat is the most relevant.

[B]

Brat is relevant in September 2025. This is what. This is when Brat is starting.

[A]

Not. No, because guess what? Apparently Charlie had an amazing showing at Tiffany. A rupture. I can't wait for that.

[B]

Oh, no, please. I'm so ready for Charlie's actress era.

[A]

No. And everyone's saying very promising things ahead 100.

[B]

I mean, she can hold this. She can hold any screen.

[A]

But what was the question?

[B]

Oh, the question was a pattern.

[A]

Oh, noted. Apple girl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Apparently it's. It's been proliferated now that Conan Gray is the only Apple Girl who has also been Sally.

[B]

Nope, not true.

[A]

Please don't erase me.

[B]

You better get your facts straight. Get your facts straight. I don't appreciate that Bowen was Sally. Where were you, Sally?

[A]

I was Sally on guess what. The Tonight show, starring.

[B]

Is that where you were, Sally? I thought that you came out at a show. I didn't Even know this about you, ma'. Am.

[A]

Honey, it's out there.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then Tucker would go on to say in interviews that Sorry, I was one of his favorites because why? I danced like a little kid.

[B]

100%. I watched that interview because I'm kind of obsessed with Roman.

[A]

No, he's.

[B]

By the way, you know who we also hung out with at the Apple park and we saw her and it was like we had seen a long lost friend, like our cousin. I. I've only met her once and you had not known her before, but the one, the only Lena Dunham who just did a movie with Natalie Portman and role model, AKA Tucker. And apparently you can look forward to him being a movie star.

[A]

He has it.

[B]

Quite soon.

[A]

He has it. That's all we'll say. He's.

[B]

He's got that star quality.

[A]

He absolutely does. And guess what? This man, I don't know what his sexuality is.

[B]

Usually there was bicon rumors.

[A]

If there. If the. If I don't, whatever. I'm sure we're gonna hear, you know, things. The word queer baiting in the discourse again. Maybe when it comes to him, I don't care because this man is. Guess what? He is posting pictures of Brandon from Sean Cody on his Instagram, making jokes about how like, you know, role model stuns in new photo like this. Like, you know what? They can queerbait if they know what's up.

[B]

I don't care about the queer baiting. Can I say I think the world got darker once Nick Jonas stopped posting shirtless photos. Like, I don't know why, everyone was like, I think there was a moment there where like they had Nick Jonas speak at Stonewall and maybe that was going too far. But like, why did we scare Nick Jonas away from posting? Like, what are we doing? Like, you're not helping. You're hurting for real. You know, when I was in fourth grade, we had to do a class project and I've never told this story before where we had to go out and from sticks and mud, we had to create longhouses. Native American longhouses. And this was an entire day long project. And I remember at the end of.

[A]

The day, not sure what this is going on.

[B]

At the end of the day, you have to listen to every story to get to the end. It's actually really close to number six. You have to listen to every story to get to the end. At the end of the day, there had to be cleanup. And my teacher, Mr. D, who was my favorite teacher, I'll never forget it because it was one of the only times he got really upset with me because I was not helping. I was goofing off. If you can picture me as a fourth grader, you can understand. He goofed off.

[A]

I bet that's so cute.

[B]

Socializing, disturbed learning. And he looked at me, and in front of the whole class, he said, if you're not helping, you're hurting. I never forgot it. And I'm telling everyone in the queer community right now, if you chased Nick Jonas away from posting thirst traps, you're not helping, you're hurting. And now all we get is Joe Jonas walking around the stage looking. Looking like that. And we could have had two Jonas brothers giving us, I'm sorry, but ass.

[A]

We're not actually wagging our fingers at anybody. But there's. There's a world in which straight men could have come into the fold. We could have made it a little bit easier for them to be allies.

[B]

So that they didn't all move to Austin. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

That's all I'm saying.

[B]

I'm just like, why was it so bad that Nick Jonas wanted to, like, wiggle it in front of us? Just let him. Some of us were really enjoying it. And maybe there's parts of this I'm not thinking about. I'm just saying if you're not helping, you're hurting. You didn't help here.

[A]

What's Mr. D doing now?

[B]

I would be really curious to know. I would be really curious to know. I'll say it. I think that in fourth grade, so I'm a noted lifelong Mets fan, and he was a Yankees fan. And I started. I remember I came home one day from school, I looked at my dad and said, I'm a Yankees fan now. And he was like, okay, sure. And then I started wearing Yankees jerseys and dark Jeter clothes.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

I think I'm old enough now and enough of a, you know, realized, actualized person to say I had a crush on my teacher.

[A]

He sounds hot.

[B]

He was handsome. He was handsome and funny. That's.

[A]

Oh, well, there you go. Done deal.

[B]

He had one big flaw, which is yelling at children. Well, no, he wasn't yelling. He was stern. And he had right to be one. One thing he didn't do correctly. And ultimately, in the grand scheme of things, he can be forgiven for this. But he printed, pronounced it Hermione.

[A]

Well, that was before the film. That was before Goblet of Fire. Sorry, we're talking, you know, I'm sorry, guys. We're going into this territory. But this is before Goblet of Fire, where J.K. rowling felt the explicit need to have Victor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To have Hermione correct. Victor Crumb's pronunciation of it.

[B]

I was like, yeah, yeah. I. I'll never forget reading, because that was. Goblet of Fire was peak. We're going at midnight culture. So I remember I was like, I think I might have even gotten to that part of the book, like, hours into the night. And I. That was that iconic little passage where she's spelling her name out for Victor Crumb.

[A]

So can you really blame Mr. D?

[B]

I certainly can't.

[A]

That's his. And that's his big flaw. That's a pretty good flaw.

[B]

No, he was amazing. He was great. He was great. And I. I hope he's well. I hope he's well. He had an impact on me. And you know what he told me at the end of the year, which I never forgot? He took every student outside and he gave one piece of advice. You know, when he told me, I.

[A]

You've said this before.

[B]

You have to have more fun. Because I used to take myself very seriously. I was like. Even though that one day I goofed off. But I was, like, really into school and, like, was. I was kind of that kid that was like, it's in my hand a lot, looking at people's papers, like, being competitive. He's like, hey, listen, have more fun done. Because not everything has to be so serious. And then I never took anything seriously again.

[A]

And we have him to thank.

[B]

That was a long walk from where. How did I start? Well, what got us into that?

[A]

Got us into that.

[B]

Oh, you're not hoping. You're hurting Nick Jonas. You should come back. Just come back to Broadway. You got all the comeback to Broadway. You got all the goods. We see you at the shows. Please. Quoting a role model. A role model. Yes. Oh, please. Go for it, go for it, go for it in your little hat. You know what I'm saying? He wears a little hat.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, Okay. A lot of talk about performative masculinity or, you know, men performing as men. And it's like.

[B]

It's like you. You gotta.

[A]

You can't yoke them because if either they, like, like, are catering, quote, unquote, to, like, women and queer people, or they just, like, they have no other recourse but to, like, adopt all the terrible things about being male in the year 2025. It's like. It's like. And then, like, we're.

[B]

We're absolutely.

[A]

I mean, performing as gay men and in our way, like everyone's, everyone's kind of picking up their cues and their social proof from each other. We're not qualified to talk about this in any intellectual way.

[B]

We are not qualified to talk about any single item. And yet we still are here 10 years in the game. Well, you know, it's going to be 10 years in March on March, I think 11th, 2025. And we, I, I don't know that this is the way it is, but 500 is going to fall around the 10 year anniversary, I think. Unless this is literally the 500th episode and we don't know which is possible.

[A]

Count it as that.

[B]

No, not right now. Imagine we did just an episode. The rest of the episode is just us counting.

[A]

One, two, three, four.

[B]

Okay, imagine this. You walk through a door and boom. You're literally reliving your past. Like full emotional flashback, the whole thing.

[A]

In the new romantic drama A Big, Bold, Beautiful Journey, Margot Robbie plays Sarah. She's bold, she's brilliant, she's got that I'm fine energy. But is she? And Colin Farrell is David. So charming, very broody. They meet at a wedding not their own. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. And sparks fly.

[B]

And then, plot twist. They find themselves embarking on a big, bold, beautiful journey to unexp places. Discovering magical doors that literally unlock different memories. Their time hopping through the most pivotal, awkward, heartbreaky laugh out loud moments of their lives. We're talking childhood regrets, first crushes, that one night you wish you could redo.

[A]

Just one while revisiting their pasts. Maybe, just maybe, they're also writing a new future together.

[B]

It's whimsical, it's joyful, it's romantic, it's got emotional depth. Plus Colin Farrell and Margot Robbie. The chemistry alone.

[A]

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[A]

Oh, my God. Absolutely. That's our TED Talk.

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Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Do it even though you shouldn't. I think that is comp.

[B]

Do it even though you shouldn't. Nick Jonas, I hope you come to our TED Talk.

[A]

Yeah, sure. Yeah, fine. He shouldn't be speaking at Stonewall. Let him.

[B]

Who cares? What did he. What did he say that bothered you so much? Probably nothing. I don't think he came with a speech. He probably went up there and was like, yeah, guys, I'm an ally. We got upset. He never took his clothes off again. He's a never nude.

[A]

Shame. What a shame. It is a shame and a lovely human being.

[B]

Have you met him? Yes, of course you have.

[A]

So sweet. Yeah, truly. You know, you and I are just waxing idiotic as we usually do.

[B]

Honey, honey.

[A]

We've embraced it.

[B]

Honey. Ouch. I just waxed idiotic and I didn't have enough glue on. What is it? What's what? What? What is it? What do they put on Wax? Yeah, wax. Gosh. Ow. Ow. That glue hurt. So. Yes. Anyway, I did not know that that was where all the money from the guest music video or. Not the money. The. The underwear. And that is why it won the music video for good.

[A]

I see. Oh, we're still. Yes. Back to VMAs. I love. I love to retrace.

[B]

Well, this is our big VMA episode. Best group, group Blackpink. Song of the summer. Tate McCray. Just keep watching.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

That's interesting.

[A]

You love Just Keep watching.

[B]

I do. Was it the song of the summer?

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

So these. Let's just see. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. There were 16 nominees for song of the Summer. How does that work?

[A]

I can't think of 16 songs that came out.

[B]

Here's what they are. Tate McCray. Just keep watching. Addison Ray, headphones on. Alex Warren. Ordinary. Benson Boone. Mystical, magical. Didn't know that was big X. The Plug. Featuring Bailey Zimmerman all the way. Don't know what a single part of that means.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Chapel on the Subway. Demi Lovato, Fast. Well, just wait.

[A]

Oh, brother. We'll be here all night. Let's just say that.

[B]

Let's just say that. That doa Cat jealous type that just came out. Hunter X. Oh, this is. This is the K Pop Demon Hunter song. Golden Jesse Murph Blue Blue Strips Justin Bieber Daisies.

[A]

We love daisies.

[B]

Shake it to the Max by Molly Silent Addie, Skilla Bang and Sheny. Okay. Morgan Walling featuring Tate McCray what I Want Raven Lyne featuring Rex Orange County Love Me Not Sabrina Carpenter manchild There's a song I know know and somber 12 to 12.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're not going to do the.

[A]

Thing where we're like, who are these people? Because that is like probably the most peevish thing that I can think of saying in this day and age.

[B]

But I peevish. And we're not doing it.

[A]

We're not doing it. But yum. I guess out of those man Child.

[B]

Golden.

[A]

I feel like I was listen I was hearing everywhere.

[B]

Did you watch K Pop Demon Hunters? I did.

[A]

No, not finished.

[B]

I didn't either, but all good.

[A]

I don't think it's for us. I think it's bright colors for the kids.

[B]

I that's my thing is I was like love it. I yeah. I couldn't get invested in like a story. But I did think that animation was amazing and I thought some of the songs were fun. I was just like with, with, with my time. I wasn't gonna watch that whole thing.

[A]

Oh good.

[B]

But, but go off and good for you. Joel Kim booster for being in it.

[A]

Slay.

[B]

Yeah. Did you know?

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

He, I, I, I think he kept it a secret from us.

[A]

That's chic, Joel. Well done.

[B]

He's not really a secret keeper. No. But I he kept this one pretty close to the sexy little chest. Joel. Oh, Joel. Anyway, the Latin icon award was Ricky Martin and it was so funny watching everyone being like, oh my God, he's so hot. He's hl. It's like, yeah. Where you been?

[A]

Been?

[B]

Where have you been?

[A]

He's hot. People tend to age hot.

[B]

In this case, it's like story to noted. He stayed hot. He. He actually is. And one of the greatest specimens we have.

[A]

Truly great specimen inside and out. An angel on this earth.

[B]

He's so good.

[A]

You've gone to meet him.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[B]

You get whatever. Let's leave it there.

[A]

You've gotten to meet him. Just a sweetie. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. I, yeah. This was so ultimately Lady Gaga four wins. Ariana Grande and Sabrina Carpenter three wins.

[A]

Let's. Let's talk about the legendary thing that was that night, which is that Gaga gets her award. Runs over From Long island to Madison Square Garden does. Takes a later. Later State goes on stage at a later time because of the VMA wins, which is all, you know, pre planned and the logistic. The movements are all, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Arranged. All good. But for her to like, go from that to that and do the Mayhem ball. Do the Mayhem ball. Do the whole disease moment with the top down camera in the. In the sort of grave litter box with the moon man, like go off. I'm still thinking about that show.

[B]

I mean, anyway, it's. It's. It is. It's. It's the pop culture moment of the year. Right?

[A]

I think.

[B]

So what's coming close?

[A]

Let's just. Let's just cap it at Q1 through Q3 for. For what we've experienced so far.

[B]

Well, the. The fact is we can't experience what we've not yet experienced. We can't get into Q4. We haven't yet experienced it.

[A]

I pray. I pray for all of us.

[B]

And I lift my hands and pray. Okay.

[A]

Anything else to talk about?

[B]

I love when Bowen Yang wants to stop. Not that he'll just like, we'll make this a quick one and then just like flit away and I'm like, no.

[A]

No, I'm with you, man.

[B]

Not bad.

[A]

Not bad.

[B]

Okay. What else? What else? No, not really. I guess I do have. And I don't think so, honey, that is relevant to my pop culture moment of the week.

[A]

I see.

[B]

I'm ready to do it.

[A]

We don't. I'm sorry, we don't have to end the episode.

[B]

No, no, we actually kind of do, because I want you guys to. This is a peek behind the curtain. We're actually recording this episode. The latest we've ever had. It is almost 5pm PST on Tuesday, September 9th. So you're going to be hearing this right after we do it. Because we were so excited to be invited by Apple and we came here and it's been the last couple days.

[A]

Our schedules have been.

[B]

It's been a little much. And so just, just so you know, for the future, we're about to do a lot of backlogging with very special guests. I was looking. I think that we literally have like. We know who our next, like, 15 guests are gonna be. Wow. Because we're doing something very different than we have, which is. Bowen Yang is gonna be yours. Turning to Saturday Night Live, do you have anything. Do you have anything to say about your big return and the. And what's going on?

[A]

I. I am thrilled to go back I will miss the people who are not coming back very, very much. And that's it. I just look forward to taking my post.

[B]

Take your post, girl. Take my post.

[A]

Get to your muster stations.

[B]

It's time to must.

[A]

It's time to must. Oh, I love that.

[B]

It's time to must. It's time to must. I want to say one thing, and I'm just gonna, like, say this, like, because I believe it to be true. Heidi Gardner, you are one of the greats.

[A]

You are one of the greats. You will go down in history.

[B]

You will go down as one of the greats. You are one of the funniest people ever. I just want to share a little anecdote, which is I went to Just for Laughs with Heidi Gardner in 2017, New Faces characters. And I'll never forget when you do New Faces, you do one performance in a huge theater. And I'll never forget, Heidi went second. I went ninth. And so I was rehearsing. I was late in the show and she had gone, and then we did a. So I didn't get to see her because I was busy getting ready the next day. You do it in a very small space, and so everyone got to watch each other because we'd already done it, we'd already rehearsed everything. And I'll never forget watching her perform in that small space and seeing just the micro things she was doing with her face. Heidi is a true new actress. She reminds me of Cecily and that she, like, really embodies to the bone her characters. She's created so many brilliant ones. And I knew then that she was special. And all these years later, I still know it. I love Heidi Gardner and that show was made so much better for her being on it. And I just love Heidi.

[A]

She would be one of the only cast members who the room internally on. On Wednesday could trust with being a solo writer on. Yeah, you know, they have. They have our names at the top of each sketch script. You know, they like Green Gillespie, you know, Yang Yim. Like, it would be like Rogers Yang or whatever. And then, you know, if it's always like a very, very vulnerable thing as a cast member to, like, put only your name on it. Like, there's just like something in the room that's kind of shifts. But anytime you saw just Gardner, you knew you were in good hands. She would take it upon herself to write pieces for other casts. She wrote.

[B]

That's amazing.

[A]

A whole ass update feature for Punky Johnson one year.

[B]

Wow. I love that.

[A]

I didn't Know that it was just the most. It was one of the most beautiful, kindest gestures I've ever seen at that show. And her heart was so big and clearly so fucking funny.

[B]

She's great.

[A]

A true anchor on that show. And a. You know, especially in those lockdown days during COVID like, it was just so weird. This is just. I mean, we all kind of like had people, I hope do this, but like one of the first people who was just like, okay, like, just to get through this, like, let's just each wake up or, you know, no rush. There's no time in whatever. Like, let's just each text each other every day. Something that, like, made us smile today. And like, that was like this like foothold that I had emotionally in terms of like, knowing, like, we were just sharing music and just a truly beautiful person. We're not talking about her like she's.

[B]

Passed, but I mean, but it was funny. Cause you were like, she had such a big heart.

[A]

But we're just commemorating.

[B]

Yeah. Cause it's worth it to. When someone's at somewhere for eight years and did unbelievable work.

[A]

Truly, Truly.

[B]

And you know what I mean. And is a deeply talented, good person. And I will also say, you know, I go to the show many times to visit you and see you on Saturdays and your dressing rooms are conjoined or they're neighboring rather. And she always just has the coolest friends, the most colorful group of people around her. Just like the vibes. They're always like, there's always pizza in there. Like, I just love Tidy's dressing room. Like, she's got an incredible personality. She's an amazing performer and she's a great person. Yes. And. And I just think she deserves to be given her propers as she exits that show.

[A]

Absolutely. And one of our favorite updates is absolutely ignore 80s cocaine wife.

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[A]

No after party.

[B]

Come on, Michael. Come on, Michael.

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New after party. Come on, Michael.

[B]

Me, you, Lauren and a fat lady. Come on. Heidi's so great. So she's just the best. And.

[A]

And just to shout out Devin Emil, Michael Longfellow, they were fantastic comedians going in. They are fantastic comedians coming out. And I gotta reserve comment, you know, man, just. Those are. Those are some a plus gems.

[B]

Love.

[A]

And we welcome. We're not gonna nick Jonas you out of the queer community.

[B]

Oh, you are welcome, hottie. Anyways and excited about the new people. This is gonna be great. Here we go. Okay, Imagine this. You walk through a door and boom. You're literally reliving your past. Like full emotional flashback the whole thing.

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So I have an I don't think.

[A]

So honey to do this is Matt Rogers I don't think so honey as time starts now I don't think so.

[B]

Honey that there's no way to clean Just watch Survivor Australia vs the World in this country that we call and I'm using air quotes America because in my America first of all a lot of this shit isn't going down but you could Definitely watch Australia vs the World on a streaming service. I don't exactly know what's up with Paramount but I know this ball has been so dropped and it's gone down the street. Kids are crying because they can't find their ball.

[A]

Oh, and now I'm gonna.

[B]

And now I'm gonna spoil it with my final 30.

[A]

It's been spoiled.

[B]

Parvati Shallow, Hugh will always be, not just family, the best Survivor player of all time. And now it is fact. A second win, a flawless game, no votes cast against her iconic and bespoke idol plays unbelievable, like, deference from everyone playing that game till the very end. They had no choice but to crown Parvati Shallow the best winner of all time. And I don't think so, honey, that we can't just watch it. You gotta pirate it.

[A]

Suck it, Tony.

[B]

Suck it. Second Tony.

[A]

Well, the fact that Sari is on camera while showing her vote, I was crying. That is powerful. And I wasn't even. I was just watching. I just looked at the posts on. On socials. I was like, for Sari to confer that title, one of the best reality game players ever to confer that title upon Parvati. That is true. That is true.

[B]

Queendom.

[A]

Queendom, sister.

[B]

It was queen. First of all, I feel like I. It's one of those sentences you hear and then you remember it forever. Don't think I'm doing this because I love you. It's because I truly believe you are the best Survivor player in the world. I was so emotional. And also, guys, you just gotta find a way to watch Australia versus the world because it was one of the best seasons of Survivor I've ever watched. And it's. It would really, I think, help to watch. I believe it's season five. It's contenders versus challengers or something. Champions versus contenders or something. It's the season that Luke and Janine are on in Australian Survivor. It was one. It was by far at the time one of the best Survivor seasons I had ever watched, maybe the best until now. Wow. Wow. And Parvati and Saree are just brilliant on this. And you can. Here's the thing. It's not even really a spoiler because it's just such a coronation and cakewalk for Parvati the entire time because she's just that good. Two time winner of Survivor, Parvati Shallow, one time runner up in a season she should have won. Sorry, Sandra. This was in an era when there were bitter juries. Juries did not vote for the best player. They took a lot of personal bias into those things. It was taken much more personally. This was a well played game all around. Everyone was good and it was brilliant. And it would be a really worthwhile watch. We love Parvati.

[A]

Parvati is family on Parvati Family Lost Coach. Absolutely.

[B]

Parvati is family on Lost Coach. Well, and now speaking of family on Lost Coach, this is your mother. Oh, this is Bowen Yang. Do you. Are you struggling to find a topic? Know you have one? This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[A]

I don't think so, honey. There has not been enough celebration around the 10th anniversary of one of the best pop albums of all time. Do you know what I'm going to say?

[B]

Emotion. Oh, period.

[A]

By Carly Ray Jepsen. Where are the parades? Where are the dinners?

[B]

Where is the discourse at all?

[A]

The celebrity look at the documentary. I mean, we're getting a deluxe album with, like, the full Japanese and deluxe European editions. But we have More, as in the song. More is the only release that we've gotten so far. I think maybe this rollout has not been, like, publicized in the way that it should have. I'm not giving anyone any notes over at the label, but this is. This is an album that gave us such hits as Run Away With Me. Emotion. I really like you. Gimme love all that boy problems, your type. When I needed you I didn't just come here to dance. And dare I leave out Cut to the feeling.

[B]

And that's one minute. Yeah.

[A]

Take me to Emotion.

[B]

I really don't think that there's been many better pop albums than that in, like, the last 25. No, like. And as. As people who listen to pretty much everyone that comes out, that one does stand the test of time.

[A]

But it's this thing about Carly Rae where it's like, is she always going to be undersung? I'm sure there's an acceptance on behalf of all parties, but especially in this and the time where we should have a commemorative moment about this. Yeah, I would love to throw the parties. Throw. Go throw the parades. I'll throw a parade.

[B]

Did you know that Dan Nigro was a producer on this?

[A]

This album brought up so much. So, like, Shellback, obviously, but this was Deb Hines, like, getting. Dipping his hand into it. Like, Rostam really were starting to work with the girls. Like, this album really launched so much. Greg Kirsten as well.

[B]

Oh, wow. Shellback was on Runaway with me. Just, I mean, love Greg Kirsten, by the way.

[A]

Way.

[B]

Always great. Yeah, yeah. Dan Nigro was a writer and producer on When I Needed you. So good.

[A]

Love that song.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

Anyway, I just love that. Oh, my God. And yeah, the Heims were writers, lyric writers for Making the Most of the Night too.

[B]

So they were.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Huh. Oh, love that.

[A]

So I just.

[B]

Making the Most of the Night. That would make sense. It does feel like this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's a little Heim impression. Yeah. No. Love, Carly. Right. If you have a favorite track on Emotion, what is it?

[A]

Run Away With Me.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

Period. That feeling just like.

[B]

I mean, I. I feel like that.

[A]

Album was the beginning of what we now call indie pop pop. It was when like, a. A pop album of the highest caliber came out. And yet it felt like not everyone was talking about it.

[B]

You might be finding Dead. I'm going to go ahead and say Robin Body Talk, I think might have been the start of that. But everyone.

[A]

But everyone knows Dancing On My Own.

[B]

Everyone knew Dancing On My Own. Everyone knows Dancing On My Own. But I think at the time, the. Because Dancing On My Own was not like giving radio.

[A]

I thought it was.

[B]

I don't think it was. I think it was more of, like, a song that got, like, passed around. Let's go ahead and look at this. I'm saying Dancing on My Own. Let's see. Okay. Charts. Yeah. It was only bubbling under Hot 100.

[A]

Okay. Interesting.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the thing is it's like for Dancing on My Own, at least domestically, because it looks like it did a lot better internationally, which makes sense. But that's like I. I would say the song of a generation, by the way, literally, us seeing, like, Elena this. This weekend, and now I was talking about Dancing on My Own is so funny because that was the moment I believe it to be solidified in pop culture was. That's all Season one, Episode three, All Adventurous Girls do it closes the episode. I do remember when we went to go see her at Barclays and the entire audience was just screaming, screaming, wailing on my own. It was just very clear that that was. That that was our song. I felt like that with. I love it too. With Charlie. Also featured in Girls.

[A]

Also featured in Girl Curls.

[B]

And we shouldn't Ira Erase Iconop. They were. That was their song.

[A]

Oh, no one's erasing Iconop.

[B]

No one's doing that.

[A]

Well, this was another fabulous episode.

[B]

And we end every episode with a song. I got this feeling on the summer day when you go, I crash my car into a bridge. I watch, I let it burn. I throw my bag into stairs and I threw my car into a bridge. I died. I just said, I threw my car into the bridge. I threw it like she's a mother who has endorphins. Oh yeah, they always use that thing of like. Well, you know how a mother, if she's in distress, if her baby's in endorphins. Adrenaline Diaspora.

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