"Shivery Delicious" (w/ Nicole Kidman)

Summary

Las Culturistas: “Shivery Delicious” (w/ Nicole Kidman)

Hosts: Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang
Guest: Nicole Kidman
Date: March 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

For their 10-year podcast anniversary, Matt and Bowen celebrate the milestone with an epic guest: Nicole Kidman. The trio embarks on a journey through pop culture, formative art, high fashion, personal vulnerability, travel adventures (including “Diarrhea Island” in Antarctica), the olfactory arts, and the enduring power of curiosity and yearning. Both warm and hilarious, the episode is an effervescent deep-dive into what makes a true Culturista—and a modern movie icon.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Reflecting on 10 Years—and Nicole’s Random, Bohemian Career (02:00–08:00)

• Decade of Las Culturistas: Matt and Bowen reminisce about the podcast’s beginnings in a friend's apartment and marvel at having Nicole Kidman—cultural icon—for this special episode.
• Career Randomness & Risk: Nicole downplays the “illustrious” descriptor:

  “Random career. It's all so random.” (08:18, Nicole Kidman)
  The hosts note her ability to always surprise, with Nicole attributing this to her “curiosity,” “desire,” and bohemian upbringing surrounded by culture and little judgment.

• On Baz Luhrmann’s Nickname:

  “His nickname for me is Dear One.” (04:44, Nicole Kidman)

• On Baz’s Cultural Savvy:

  “He's able to enter the zeitgeist, though. But he's got all his education and classical training. Kind of the best of the best, right?” (07:32, Nicole Kidman)

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Moulin Rouge, Operatic Roles, and Yearning (06:00–18:37)

• Wish Fulfillment in Moulin Rouge:
  Nicole delightfully recalls:

  “I get to fly on a trapeze in sequins…with men underneath me with top hats. Badass.” (07:02)

• On Opera’s Impact:

  “Opera gives you pathos and big emotion. Because I was taken to the opera all the time…” (16:12) Her upbringing steeped in opera, Russian lit, and the Brontës is credited for Nicole’s taste for roles rooted in “yearning and big feelings.”

• The Enduring Power of Yearning:

  “I'm in a state of yearning now…It keeps you alive.” (18:23)

• The “Shivery Delicious” Moment:
  The episode title comes from Nicole referencing a line she once had about the feeling of yearning:

  “I just remember the description of being Shivery Delicious.” (19:08)

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Process, Preparation, and the Joy of Acting (19:25–21:54)

• Favorite Line & “The Hours”: Nicole treasures the experience of that iconic monologue:

  “That monologue in the Hours at the train station… But she says no, it's the right of every human being to—I get to choose my destiny.” (20:00)

• Why Not Direct?
  Nicole loves being “in the hands of a great director and a great writer,” finding it “difficult” to lead herself, as she relishes exploring multiple perspectives and is “just interested.”
• Humility and Compliments:

  “It's not an Australian attribute...you have to always come in under. But I'm learning to take the strokes…because it feels good.” (10:44)

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Pop Culture Touchstones & Queer Nostalgia (24:24–27:38)

• On “Batman Forever” and Camp:
  Nicole reflects on Dr. Chase Meridian’s status in queer culture and her own insecurities:

  “My whole thing was I'm not pretty enough. No, truly. I really felt when I was doing that that I was not pretty enough.” (26:02)
  The joy of acting, for Nicole, derives in part from being able to become other people—and the Chanel No. 5 commercial gets its due as an artful pop masterpiece.

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Storytelling, Process, and Physicality in Performance (28:40–33:28)

• “The Others” Process: Nicole recounts her process negotiating intense roles, how saying yes/then no is part of dealing with psychologically dark material, and her need for full body-emotional authenticity:

  “If I don't feel it, I'm gonna be faking it, and then I'm no good…So I have to somehow find this weird state of being that keeps it real…” (31:01, Nicole Kidman)

• Body as Instrument:

  “Where do you feel them in your body? Is it here? Is it in the chest? What happens? Is it in the gut?...Let's start from there.” (31:54)

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Antarctic Adventures: Travel, Family, and Diarrhea Island (33:28–43:30)

• Nicole & Matt’s Shared Vessel: The two realize they were on the same Antarctic cruise ship, just at different times!
  Hilarity as Nicole dubs a penguin-infested, guano-coated island “Diarrhea Island.”
• On Travel with Family:

  “I bring everyone…And there's two women that work with me, who have worked with me for years, who are also like my sisters. So it’s like, come on, we go. Let's go. Yeah.” (41:47)

• On Being a “Party Girl:”

  “I love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave...And they're like, does not go together, Mom. And I'm like, for me, it does.” (43:39)

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Fashion Roots, Couture, and Cultural Origins (48:44–53:04)

• “What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?”
  Without hesitation:

  “Couture. Thank you. Yeah, it actually was, because all my dreams were based on it.” (48:59) Nicole explains an upbringing surrounded by craftsmanship (her grandmother making her and Barbie’s custom clothes), which led to a lifelong love of fashion—eventually involving figures like Galliano and Lagerfeld.

• On Being a Mannequin for Designers:

  “You have to be willing to be a mannequin, like a model, and just…let them design to you.” (50:53)

• On Hosting MET Gala With Beyoncé:

  “Well, I just get to be there with Beyonce. Done my job. I'm done.” (52:10)

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The Art and Detail of Comedy & “Being the Ricardos” (53:10–58:15)

• On Lucille Ball:

  “Comedy is detailed…But if you’re really doing comedy...then that is arduous, hard, technical, skilled work.” (54:01)

• On SNL: Nicole reveals she hasn’t hosted since the 90s—would love to do it again, but admits the commitment is a lot with her current family/life balance.

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Sensory Life: Smell, Memory, and Kissing Scenes (58:31–91:40)

• Nicole’s Superpower:
  In a riotous segment, Nicole confesses:

  “I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on a smell.” (58:43)
  She’s so smell-sensitive, lingering on stories of losing (and regaining) her sense of smell after COVID, and telling tales of falafel breath on set.

• On On-Screen Chemistry:

  “You could be the most gorgeous, gorgeous guy and you come at me with bad breath and I'm like, no, no, no, it’s off.” (88:03)

• Who smells the best?

  “Rihanna…she smells divine. It's intoxicating. I've heard this. It is like I will follow you around, and it is like, you smell so good.” (91:00 & 91:08)

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Remaining Curious, Staying Teachable, and The Joy of Saying Yes (72:32–73:13)

• On Being “Teachable”:

  “That would be a good attribute to say I’m teachable.” (72:42)

• On Always Learning:
  Nicole and the hosts celebrate the power of welcoming new experiences, staying open, and “always waking up in a good mood.”

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Audience Interactions, Cult Status, and Nicole’s Impressions (43:44–60:20)

• Reactions to “Baby Girl” and Pop Touchstones:
  Nicole expresses surprise and delight that certain films or scenes (e.g., “Baby Girl” and the infamous “milk” scene) hit unexpected audiences, especially younger fans and the gay community.
• Impressions/Big Little Lies co-stars:
  Nicole does her best Laura Dern, capturing her warmth and spirit, and reminisces about her dynamic with Rhys Witherspoon and Laura.

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Final Segments: “I Don’t Think So, Honey” (79:51–90:00)

A signature Las Culturistas rapid-fire takedown of something in culture:

• Bowen Yang: Antarctica and its logistical/physical challenges.

  “I don't think so, honey. Antarctica...” (80:09)

• Matt Rogers: Outdoor furniture—its tendency to deteriorate, get dirty, and blow away.

  “The scam. The long con that is outdoor furniture.” (84:32)

• Nicole Kidman: BAD BREATH, especially when acting intimate scenes.

  “I don't think so, honey. If you have bad breath. I cannot stand bad breath.” (88:03) Hilarious anecdote about Alexander Skarsgård eating a falafel sandwich before a screen kiss:
  “No, no, no, Alex, I'm meant to be kissing you and into you. Put away the falafel now.” (88:33)

• On Olfactory Memory:

  “Which is why when I lost [my sense of smell], I was relieved.” (90:10)

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Rapidfire: Random Delights & Notable Moments

• On Outdoor Furniture:

  “Just drag the indoor furniture outside when you need it.” (86:03, Nicole Kidman)

• Looney Tunes fashion:
  Revealed that Bowen was wearing Looney Tunes apparel; Nicole professes her love for Tweety.
• Rihanna’s Scent:
  Confirmed as “intoxicating.” (91:08)
• Saying yes—even when you can’t skate/ride/whatever:

  “Can you ice skate? Absolutely…then she was on the ice…not so good.” (71:05–71:10)

• Nicole on practical magic 2: Winks to reunions with Sandy Bullock, Julia Roberts, and more.

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On Travel, Identity & Growth

• Encouraging Global Experiences:
  Nicole’s daughters, now 15 and 17, have already been to all seven continents. She advocates “raising global children” and “sitting in a dark theater watching subtitled films” as windows to the world.
• The Importance of Solitude & Self-Acceptance:
  Deep reflection ensues on relationships, “the reality of what this life is,” and finding peace in being alone.

  “Am I okay with being alone? There will be nobody there when I die. Is that gonna be okay?” (64:35, Nicole Kidman)

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Notable Quotes

• “It's the right of every human being to—I get to choose my destiny.” (20:00, Nicole Kidman)
• “I'm in a state of yearning now…It keeps you alive.” (18:23, Nicole Kidman)
• “You could be the most gorgeous, gorgeous guy and you come at me with bad breath and I'm like, no, no, no, it’s off.” (88:03, Nicole Kidman)
• “That is my daughter and I. We watch Bridesmaids when we're feeling down. Whenever we need a lift, we watch it, we recite it…our savior film.” (09:41, Nicole Kidman)
• “Couture. It actually was, because all my dreams were based on it.” (49:01, Nicole Kidman)
• “Shivery delicious.” (19:08, Nicole Kidman—episode title inspiration)
• “Rihanna…she smells divine. It's intoxicating.” (91:00, Nicole Kidman)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Las Culturistas 10-year reflection: 01:55–02:31
• Nicole’s process & risk-taking: 11:36–13:31
• Childhood, family, and cultural formation: 12:32–13:31
• Discussion of Moulin Rouge & opera influences: 06:27–18:25
• Yearning & shivery delicious: 17:31–19:17
• Favorite lines & “The Hours” dialogue: 19:25–20:31
• Batman Forever & Chanel No. 5 commercial: 24:24–28:18
• Actor’s process/body work: 29:33–31:53
• Antarctica & “Diarrhea Island” stories: 33:28–43:30
• Fashion/couture as formative culture: 48:56–53:04
• Comedy as detail—on Lucille Ball and SNL: 53:40–58:15
• Nicole’s sense of smell: 58:31–91:40
• ‘I Don’t Think So, Honey’ rants: 79:51–90:00

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Conclusion

Nicole Kidman, unsparingly candid and endlessly curious, delivers a masterclass in self-expression, vulnerability, and the artistry of a risk-embracing career. Whether dissecting pop nostalgia, sharing adventurous misadventures in Antarctica, espousing the importance of couture, or extolling the virtues—and perils—of good and bad breath, she embodies the spirit of a true Culturista. The anniversary episode is a feast: celebratory, shivery, delicious.

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“Rule of Culture”

• “No more falafel before you make love.” (89:35)
• “The eighth continent: the Moon.” (68:24)
• “Having taste means knowing where to look.” (01:14)

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For fans, newcomers, and culture lovers: this episode captures Nicole Kidman at her most personal and playful, rendering her as both icon and approachable, ever-yearning party girl.

Transcript

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

Wow. Is that the culture?

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

Get tactile.

[Bowen Yang]

Here we are, Bowen Yang. It's a very special episode.

[Matt Rogers]

Why is that?

[Bowen Yang]

Because 10 years ago this week, we started this podcast.

[Matt Rogers]

That's crazy.

[Bowen Yang]

Feels silly to me.

[Matt Rogers]

Ten years? Well, I mean, we're not helping with this whole, like, 2016 nostalgia thing going on right now.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, there is a lot of that.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, I was gonna ask, like, where were you 10 years ago? But now we literally can't say.

[Bowen Yang]

We were in our friend's Alex Ramsey's apartment with a mattress in the window to keep out the sound.

[Matt Rogers]

That was our. That was our soundproofing at the time.

[Bowen Yang]

And we are now 10 years later, sitting here with our guest.

[Matt Rogers]

Look at that. Look at God.

[Bowen Yang]

And I gotta say, look at God

[Matt Rogers]

because she's with us in the room.

[Bowen Yang]

She's here. I don't know that we could have booked a better guest for our 10 year anniversary. A podcast about pop culture.

[Matt Rogers]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

You'd think that the 10 year is going to happen. We probably should get a full blown pop culture icon in here.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I did my thing of like, I'm gonna watch a project, I'm go

[Bowen Yang]

back and revisit the classics.

[Matt Rogers]

It's the sort of decision paralysis thing that happens with, I think, our guest, where I'm sure she's used to this by now, where everyone's like, I loved you and. And then like, they must like, sort of short circuit. And then like.

[Bowen Yang]

And what did you pick?

[Matt Rogers]

So I picked. I was very happy with To Die for and the others, which I. And then I watched the Criterion Collection featurette where there's something I want to ask. She mentioned something that I want to ask her about, which is that she almost quit because she was like, I can't do this. This is a woman who is awful to her children. Not a spoiler alert, but you know what I mean. Well, well, it's the others. If you've seen the others, if you

[Bowen Yang]

know, you know, I went for something old, something new. I went for final two episodes of Big Little Lies, season one.

[Matt Rogers]

Perfect.

[Bowen Yang]

And I went for Eyes Wide Shut, which I had never seen.

[Matt Rogers]

Uh huh.

[Bowen Yang]

And boy, are there questions as a result of this list of projects. But there are approximately a million roles that our guest has been incredible in. Not just as an actress, as a producer, I mean, fashion icon, et cetera. Arguably best performance is the Chanel no. 5 commercial.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh.

[Bowen Yang]

Which, yes, this is a podcast that's gonna bring it up.

[Matt Rogers]

Absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

Our 10 year anniversary special and our guest is the one, the only, Nicole Kidman.

[Nicole Kidman]

It was so hard to stay quiet through that.

[Bowen Yang]

You stayed very stone.

[Matt Rogers]

You were very.

[Nicole Kidman]

Did you see me?

[Matt Rogers]

You take direction?

[Nicole Kidman]

I was like, yeah, you told me to shut up.

[Bowen Yang]

But then when we said Chanel number five commercial, you did. You did jump up.

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, Baz just texted me.

[Bowen Yang]

Did he?

[Nicole Kidman]

Literally. So you must have been telepathically picking something up.

[Bowen Yang]

We were just talking about him, actually.

[Matt Rogers]

We were just talking about. Because the way she.

[Nicole Kidman]

My Bazzy. We love Bazzy.

[Bowen Yang]

Wonderful.

[Nicole Kidman]

His nickname for me is Dear One.

[Matt Rogers]

Dear One.

[Nicole Kidman]

Isn't that a lovely nickname?

[Bowen Yang]

Has that been for just always. Since the beginning.

[Nicole Kidman]

Dear One.

[Matt Rogers]

Dear One.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. So elegant.

[Matt Rogers]

Same Number of syllables as Nicole, but

[Nicole Kidman]

somehow Dear One is nicer.

[Matt Rogers]

Dear One, I can say he has a nickname for me because I met him at an event, and his nickname for me is. I kid you not, you bitch. Bowen.

[Bowen Yang]

You bitch.

[Matt Rogers]

Because it's how he thinks.

[Bowen Yang]

He's gonna book the podcast.

[Matt Rogers]

He wants to come on the podcast.

[Nicole Kidman]

You gotta have him.

[Bowen Yang]

Of course we do. Of course we do. We're just negging him.

[Matt Rogers]

See what he likes. He is. He's. Oh. Because he sent me the loveliest email after Ariana Grande and I did this Moulin Rouge sketch, and you guys.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no.

[Matt Rogers]

But it was kind of the best thing. Best outcome possible was to, like, be able to, like, be in conversation with him anyway.

[Nicole Kidman]

He's rivet. I mean, all you want to do is be the center of his universe. So when you drop from that spot, it's very painful.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bowen Yang]

When you're in his orbit, it's something else.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

You know?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I have to say, I think Moulin Rouge was like. We asked that question a lot. Like, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? And Moulin Rouge came out in 2000. So it was just around the time when we were starting to, like, be like, I'm gonna watch a movie that my parents don't know I'm gonna watch. And my mother was. Would see the trailer for Moulin Rouge, and she would say, that looks racy. That looks very racy. And I was like. I went into fifth grade, and I told my teacher, my mom says Moulin Rouge looks racy, and it's not racy. Well, you know, it might be a little racy. Well, that's sort of about what it's about. But then you watch it.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. Close to two. A cortisone.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, just about a cortisone.

[Matt Rogers]

A cortisone and consumption.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's right.

[Matt Rogers]

The consumption racy topics.

[Bowen Yang]

The greatest consumption. Death put on celluloid, I think. Can we talk about it? I'm speechless.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. And even people on the team are like, like, gagged.

[Bowen Yang]

Just the consumption of it all.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then I get carried, though, in feathers. Pink feathers. Come on.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

I get to fly on a trapeze in sequins. Yeah. With men underneath me. With top hats.

[Bowen Yang]

Pretty good.

[Nicole Kidman]

Badass.

[Matt Rogers]

Badass.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then I get to die and be held by Ewan McGregor singing to me. And then. But I also get to get carried in pink feathers. Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Pink feathers seem to be.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, that's really lovely.

[Bowen Yang]

A lot of wish fulfillment there.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. It was Just so exquisite.

[Bowen Yang]

And also like the. The soundtrack that was birthed from Moulin Rouge. I think that that doesn't get enough respect. Put on its name because all bangers on that soundtrack.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, well, he's. He's just a music whiz, so. I mean, Baz is classically built in terms of all his knowledge and the way in which he's been trained. And then he talk about culture and pop culture. Then he's able to enter the zeitgeist, though. But he's got all his education and classical training. Kind of the best of the best. Right?

[Matt Rogers]

He's a fountain.

[Nicole Kidman]

Who else do we want to talk about?

[Bowen Yang]

Enough about you.

[Matt Rogers]

Mostly it's going to be you.

[Nicole Kidman]

Let's move on.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm going to tie back to you

[Nicole Kidman]

because I just throw someone at me and I'll answer anyone.

[Matt Rogers]

Nicole Kidman.

[Bowen Yang]

How about that?

[Matt Rogers]

Because I feel like.

[Nicole Kidman]

Not me. I'm boring.

[Matt Rogers]

Come on. The reason why. I think the reason why you've had this incredibly illustrious career is because.

[Nicole Kidman]

Random career. It's all so random.

[Bowen Yang]

But random in the best way. Like, I love that. We never know where we're going to get from you.

[Nicole Kidman]

It is random.

[Matt Rogers]

Scarpetta March 11th on prime today. Today.

[Nicole Kidman]

I think it's binge. I know you not meant to binge things, but binge.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you think it's a binger?

[Nicole Kidman]

I think this is a binger. If you like binging love. I like binging.

[Bowen Yang]

Me too.

[Nicole Kidman]

It comes, you know, it's not healthy, but I love it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Take it all at once, huh?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. Just watch it.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

Watch it and watch it and watch it and watch it and watch it. And done.

[Bowen Yang]

Perfect couple. I binged. Netflix made that easy.

[Nicole Kidman]

Right. Okay, well, hopefully this makes it easy. Jamie Lee and I. Oh, who could.

[Matt Rogers]

Jamie Lee, Ariana. Bobby, kind of.

[Nicole Kidman]

And he just. He is creme de la creme. And then Simon Baika for years.

[Bowen Yang]

Bobby Cannaval.

[Nicole Kidman]

I see you. And everyone else.

[Bowen Yang]

And everyone else. Well, he was famously. He holds a place in gay culture because he was Will's boyfriend on Will and Grace. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

He was like the tough talking. I think he was a firefighter. Right? Or was he a cop? He was one of those boy jobs.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah, he had a cop. He's not aged at all.

[Matt Rogers]

No. Right. Look, some people, some people have.

[Nicole Kidman]

Rose Byrne is very lucky.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, she's the best. We were watching clips of her and Kristen Wiig going back and forth in an outtake reel in Bridesmaids right before you walked in.

[Nicole Kidman]

I was just Talking about that. That is my daughter and I. We watch Bridesmaids when we're feeling down. Whenever we need a lift, we watch it, we recite it. We. And we do that in the kitchen. And that is our go to saving. That's our savior film.

[Matt Rogers]

That's our savior film. There's a.

[Nicole Kidman]

To pull us out of a Funk, of course.

[Bowen Yang]

100%.

[Matt Rogers]

There's an underappreciated. It's a new vocal stim for me, which is a Roseburn line in that. Which is after, like, the toast off Roseburn goes. Dessert wine is out.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Matt Rogers]

That's such a funny little.

[Nicole Kidman]

Like, dessert wine is out.

[Matt Rogers]

Dessert wine.

[Bowen Yang]

There's also. We were blown away by, like, the patronizing way she looks at Kristen Wiig whenever she's trying to say, like, an accomplishment of her. Hers. Just like the wide open.

[Nicole Kidman]

Like, wow, you're a train wreck. Get the hook.

[Matt Rogers]

Get the hook. Exactly. Perfect. Oh, but I just. Okay. Yeah, I was gonna pay you the compliment, and then I was gonna transition

[Nicole Kidman]

into Take it back.

[Bowen Yang]

No way.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Get the hook.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you get this? Do people say that you don't. Do you receive a compliment?

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, in general, I'm trying to. It's not an Australian attribute. Like we always have to. Yeah. Humility is very important. But also, it's just hard to take compliments because the last thing you want is to be seen as big headed.

[Matt Rogers]

Right, right, right.

[Nicole Kidman]

Of course, you have to always come in under. But I'm learning to take the strokes.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Because it feels good.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, you worked hard.

[Nicole Kidman]

You worked hard for it. Give me something. Give me, please.

[Bowen Yang]

You came to the right place.

[Matt Rogers]

We do this too much, some might say, is that we fawn too much, which we will keep to a minimum. But I. I think the reason why. Because you're talking about Baz being so plugged into the culture. I feel like you have that same sense too, of just knowing when something is a worthwhile. Not even worthwhile. It's just a risk, period. Right. I feel like this randomness that you're talking about is just risk. And you.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's curiosity.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's desire. It's. And it's always just being willing to try things and jump off the cliff. That would be the way in which I approach things. But I wanna have fun. I grew up in a family that had a slight bohemian quality to it, but it was a very intellectual family. So I was taken to see all sorts of theater and opera and art. I was raised on Culture. And my mother loved fashion. My grandmother could sew and knit and embroider. And they played piano and spoke French and all those things that you. Oh, okay, teach me. But they were socially conscious and sort of just an interesting group of people to have been born into. Yeah. And to be launched into the world by.

[Bowen Yang]

So things that were fascinating were around you.

[Nicole Kidman]

There weren't boundaries. There were.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Nicole Kidman]

In terms of sometimes my mother would have a strict moral code and then at other times it'd be like, huh. But there was a huge. There wasn't a lot of judgment. The barriers were taken away. And you could express all sorts of thoughts and ideas in terms of philosophy or secrets. And some of my greatest moments were curled up in my mom's bed, sort of us both sharing human. Just humanness and ideas. And I nursed her through cancer. And so I saw all of that. I saw her losing her hair. I saw a 50 year marriage and the way that unfurled as it went along with truth and honesty. Kind of interesting. Right. And she gave me insight into what it was to be. Just to be alive.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

And that. And she. I could ask her anything. And my dad as well. So that's a really good basis to start life from. Right?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

100.

[Nicole Kidman]

But I'm just sorry to get serious.

[Matt Rogers]

Thank you. What?

[Nicole Kidman]

This is meant to be funny?

[Bowen Yang]

No, but literally, like sometimes I watch your movie and I think when she got the script for this, like, there's no way to really see it. Like Moulin Rouge, for example. Like the whole first half hour of Moulin Rouge, it moves so fast and it is so crazy. Like the scene where you're changing under the tent with Jim Broadbent and you're sort of like trying on your different Personas and stuff. It's gotta be impossible to see. But I guess then for you that's just like thinking and trusting of the director. Cause I feel like that drives you a lot.

[Matt Rogers]

Director.

[Nicole Kidman]

And because he and Catherine Martin cm the two of them, they had a beautiful big house that they would create in and that's where we would rehearse. And there was very much a bohemian quality to the way they. They create their art. And so when you're brought into that, you spend six weeks workshopping. But prior to that, I'd done a photo shoot for Vogue with them. And I'd seen their work growing up in Australia and watched them morph into who they were. And they were just like these crazy talented. I mean, Baz was an actor, you know, and a really good actor.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I bet

[Nicole Kidman]

he's in a film called Winter. Winter of Our Dreams with Judy Davis, and he's fantastic in it. He plays a junkie.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, wow.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. So there's a tidbit for you. Yeah, Go find that.

[Bowen Yang]

I will find that.

[Matt Rogers]

Winter. What is it?

[Nicole Kidman]

Winter of Our Dreams. Winter of Our Dreams with Judi Davis.

[Bowen Yang]

One of the greatest, the best.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

So, yeah. And then CM and Baz went to nida, which is our National Institute of Dramatic Arts.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. So I'm getting this bohemian sort of. No, no, no. There's a bohemian element here to the way that you were raised. And I think also I'm just gonna pick up on the opera piece.

[Nicole Kidman]

Opera.

[Matt Rogers]

Because I think that I'm gonna, like, have those two helices come together in terms of, like, it describing, like, the Nicole Kidman oeuvre, which is, like. It's operatic, but it is also so, like, artfully diverse, for lack of a better term. Right. Cause it's like, I think in you talking about the others, it's like you were like, this is Madea. This is. Yeah, this is classic Greek Euripides. But it's also. It's this opera radic kind of thing. But I think that applies to a lot of your roles. Would you agree?

[Nicole Kidman]

I think what opera gives you is it gives you pathos and it gives you big emotion and. Because I was taken to the opera all the time, and I would sit there with my dad and my mom, and we would cry. I mean, and my mother would explain, because she could speak Italian, she could speak French, so she would explain the stories. And the stories, I mean, they're fantastic in the same way that Shakespeare, the Greeks. And I grew up reading Russian literature. I was obsessed with the Russians.

[Bowen Yang]

Really?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

How did you come to be obsessed with that?

[Nicole Kidman]

Just because I had one of those lists of the hundred books you're meant to read. But I started on Dostoevsky, and then I went, oh, hold on. And then I just kept going on Dostoevsky. And then I moved over to Tolstoy. And then before you know it, I'm obsessed. The Russians. And I went to St. Petersburg, actually, and saw all of the places that Tolstoy had built War and Peace around, and people pointed out where, you know, Prince Andre, all of it. And I was like, what? Yeah, so that was kind of the beginning of my artistic basis is the Russians. And then I moved over into the Brontes, of course. Which give you the yearning.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, it certainly does.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm. I'm on a Moor I'm living on the moors.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you seen.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes. And I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. But I've read Wuthering Heights six times.

[Matt Rogers]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

And I love Heathcliff.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

So I just, you know, and that state of yearning that the Brontes existed in, that probably was my state as a teenager and probably continues on now. It's one of the most. It's the. One of the most underrated states of being.

[Bowen Yang]

Yearning. I would agree. Because it is so. It's so painful, like, when you're in it, but then you can only be in it for. Tell me if you think this is true. Like, I'll never yearn. Like I did when I was, like, 15 to 25. Like. And you don't realize that you're not gonna feel that feeling as intensely anymore.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, I feel it.

[Bowen Yang]

Really?

[Nicole Kidman]

I still.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, you still do.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. I'm in a state of yearning now.

[Bowen Yang]

You are.

[Matt Rogers]

And it can be towards anything or anyone.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

But it keeps you alive.

[Matt Rogers]

Mm.

[Nicole Kidman]

Keeps you moving forward.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. I got a yearn again.

[Nicole Kidman]

Come on. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Let's bring back the urine.

[Bowen Yang]

I know. I'm trying to feel like. I guess. I guess I was specifically thinking about it in terms of, like.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, romantic desire. You know what I'm saying?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Especially being closeted.

[Nicole Kidman]

Touch me.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

The tingles.

[Bowen Yang]

I know.

[Nicole Kidman]

Come on. The fighting of it all. Shivery delicious. I had a line once in this film called Flirting where I play a small role, but I just remember the description of being Shivery Delicious.

[Bowen Yang]

Shivery Delicious.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, that's really good. Shivery Delicious is title of F. Title of F. That's actually the title of this episode.

[Nicole Kidman]

A Shivery Delicious.

[Bowen Yang]

It's become. And I couldn't think of anything better, truly. Do you have, like, a favorite line of dialogue you've said?

[Nicole Kidman]

I have. I mean, I've worked with the greatest writers. You truly have, I think the Hours gave me. Yeah. When you're. David Hare wrote just exquisite dialogue inspired by Virginia Woolf from Michael Cunningham and then directed by Stephen Daldry. But that screenplay was. Was just beautiful. And to be able to do it justice. That monologue in the Hours at the train station.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

That was like to. And we rigorously worked that. And I have to call out the praises of Stephen Delane in that, because that's so much what acting is. There's two of you in that scene. He loves her. He wants to take her and save her, in a way, from herself. But she says no, it's the right of every Human being to. I get to choose my destiny. I get to choose, and I really believe in that.

[Bowen Yang]

Will you direct because you speak like a director.

[Nicole Kidman]

I do, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Because I feel like you're, like, really working in, like, the. Obviously this is like a genius actress, but, like. But what I'm saying is, like, you, I think would be an actor's dream as a director, because no one understands it better than you.

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, I. I've always. I mean, you never say never to anything, because whenever I do that, that's. That's a disaster. And then you go, oh, okay, well, I changed my mind. Yeah. My prerogative. But I love being an actor.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, right.

[Nicole Kidman]

I actually love being in the hands of a great director and a great writer. And I love being there to contribute. But to lead it, that's very difficult. That's decision making. That is unfaltering in your vision. Whereas I see all ways. So I need. Okay, this is what we're doing.

[Bowen Yang]

Two bohemian people.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's where we're going. Probably

[Matt Rogers]

you want to be amenable to all kinds of outcomes.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm interested. I'm just interested.

[Matt Rogers]

That's beautiful.

[Nicole Kidman]

And so I hope I always stay interested. I love asking questions more than having questions asked.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

I am driven to help families like

[Bowen Yang]

mine navigate the healthcare system system. I'm so blessed to lead an amazing team at UnitedHealthcare, focusing on the member experience and making that better. I'm Spencer and I'm committed to care. So I have a question then, just because I have to tell you again, just looping back to those things that you remember from pivotal moments in your life. I think that every, every queer person our age probably remembers walking into a Blockbuster, which was the video rental store where you can rent VHS, and walking over to the Batman aisle and seeing Dr. Chase Meridian on the COVID of the Batman Forever VHS telling you the Veronica Lake hair. I found out something about myself seeing that picture of you on there. I was like, I need to know everything. And I rented it again and again and again and I watched it. And that movie, I have to say, and Batman and Robin.

[Matt Rogers]

Camp Classics.

[Bowen Yang]

Underrated. Camp Classics Masterpieces.

[Nicole Kidman]

Joel Schumacher.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, we created her together. That hair, everything. And he was like, here she is, here's Dr. Chase.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And he probably felt the same way we did walking into Blockbuster when you walked out, like it's my dream.

[Nicole Kidman]

My whole thing was I'm not pretty enough.

[Bowen Yang]

Come on.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, truly. I really felt when I was doing that that I was not pretty enough.

[Matt Rogers]

What was the idea? What were you trying to. What were you trying to.

[Nicole Kidman]

Veronica Lake. Yeah. But I mean, also just that sort of the dream. The dream blonde. Right. And I did not feel like that. I've never felt like that, so. But that's the beauty of acting is you can pretend, create, become, which is what we love. Yeah. You can put on a wig, you can suddenly put on red lipstick and you can dress differently and put heels on and suddenly you are kind of. You would love to be. And then it all comes off again and you're back. But it's so great being able to step into that. I mean, the same was so many different characters. But a lot of people also cite the Chanel no. 5 commercial as the. So they always say to me that was.

[Bowen Yang]

I'll never. When did I win into the stream? I must have been the only person in the world who didn't know who she was. You have it going.

[Nicole Kidman]

Are you kidding me?

[Bowen Yang]

No, it was on repeat. It's my favorite movie. The Chanel number five commercial was starring you and Rodrigo Santoro. Directed by Baz Luhrmann is my favorite film.

[Matt Rogers]

Come on.

[Nicole Kidman]

And that pink dress. Oh. Everything about it running down the street. But that's Babs. That's dreams and that's CM too. And they can just create that. That's why the pink feathers, the pink dress.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm a dancer. I love to fight God.

[Nicole Kidman]

Okay. Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

It's too much for me. It is the best. And it was. It's like, I remember no one had ever done.

[Nicole Kidman]

But no one had ever done that sort of film. I remember Karl Lagerfeld being like, I love this. He gave the thumbs up to it, which was a huge thing for Carl who was just like chic personified. Right?

[Matt Rogers]

Of course.

[Nicole Kidman]

And it was like, okay. But they spent an enormous amount of money on that.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. It can't have been cheap.

[Nicole Kidman]

They didn't. They didn't go cheap. But why go cheap when you don't have to? And you can create something iconic like that.

[Bowen Yang]

We remember it.

[Nicole Kidman]

Some clothes. I'm so glad they didn't skimp.

[Bowen Yang]

No. I love like a big ass commercial that at the last second you find out is about something that had nothing to do with.

[Nicole Kidman]

Do with this story.

[Matt Rogers]

It's perfect. It's like you don't. Like, it's how it should be. It's because at that point, it's like, you're not being duped into buying something. You're just in the world.

[Bowen Yang]

You already bought it.

[Matt Rogers]

You've already bought it because you're in the world of the thing. But can I ask, on the acting note, on this love of acting. I was watching this feature, this featurette on the others for the Criterion Collection, which was. It entered that a couple years ago, but congrats. Of course.

[Bowen Yang]

That's huge.

[Matt Rogers]

But you were saying that you almost said no and no.

[Nicole Kidman]

I said yes, and then I said no.

[Matt Rogers]

But that you also. That this is your usual process. That you kind of said that this is like something that happens. Not a lot, but it's.

[Nicole Kidman]

I try not to do it now because it's incredibly frustrating and irritating for

[Bowen Yang]

people, for the line producer, for everybody.

[Nicole Kidman]

Like, what?

[Bowen Yang]

But forget other people.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like. It's because I think you were acknowledging it as part of your process. Right? Like, oh, for anything that is kind of maybe scaring you a little bit. Like, that is part of how you approach it. Like, you're saying you don't do it anymore now, but, like, what was it?

[Nicole Kidman]

No, I still do it.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, great.

[Nicole Kidman]

I just do it. Less step to healing is awareness.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

Perfect. So I'm on the road.

[Matt Rogers]

You're on the road. Can you tell the, like. Do you understand that now as a thing of, like, this is just something about going through it?

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, that particularly was. I was making Moulin Rouge when I agreed to do it. So I was a teen when I read Grace, which is, you know, the others, the character and the others. So I had not delved psychologically into her because I'd accepted in a different state of being. That being said.

[Bowen Yang]

Got it.

[Nicole Kidman]

I then arrive over there and I'm like, oh, my God, I've gotta now start prepping this woman who kills her children.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. So true.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, I don't wanna do this.

[Matt Rogers]

Right, Right.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm like, I don't wanna do this. I do not wanna kill the children. So then you go back to, is it killing the children or is it saving the children? So as soon as I could shift into, oh, I'm saving the children, even though that is so insane and crazy it was, choosing to save them from terrible pain, then I could motivate into the role.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Nicole Kidman]

Does that make sense?

[Matt Rogers]

It makes sense. And was that something you found with Alejandro, or is that something you and

[Nicole Kidman]

with the Acting coach I work with. And the way in which my whole. Just my nervous system and the way in which I approach something, I have to feel it. If I don't feel it, I'm gonna be faking it, and then I'm no good. So I have to somehow find this weird state of being that keeps it real, even though I'm still existing in life with my feet on the ground.

[Bowen Yang]

But I've got to get your stomach there.

[Nicole Kidman]

Comes from in here.

[Bowen Yang]

It comes from.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's all body work.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

The emotions are in your body.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Where do you find them? Yeah, that's really.

[Bowen Yang]

I guess that's a really good thing to remember, too, is if your body is telling your brain something, that probably means more than, you know.

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, you know, a lot of times you'll go, especially with trauma and stuff. Where do you feel it in your body? And so it's a really great way to approach a character. Where do you feel them in your body?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. That's interesting.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. Is it here? Is it in the chest? What happens? Is it in the gut? Is it in the groin? Is it in. Where is it? And let's start from there. I sound kind of crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no.

[Bowen Yang]

But you don't at all. Like, I feel like that. That is sort of an answer to my question of, like, what would compel you to say yes to certain scripts? Because, for example, something like Destroyer or like the Paperboy, it's like, you'd read these things and be like, huh? But then the huh of it sort of is a guttural instinct. And so it's not. Oh, I don't feel comfortable with that. So I'm gonna say no to it. It's. I feel uncomfortable with that. Let me listen to that.

[Nicole Kidman]

And Charlotte bless, say in the paper boy. I mean, that was just. She's all like. She's sex. She's wild. She's all body. She's all like. She's. You know, And I wanted to go. And we were shooting down in there in. In Louisiana in the Heat, truly. And it's swampy noir, and that's kind of great to go and do something with Lee Daniels, do swampy noir and Zac Efron.

[Bowen Yang]

Not bad.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. Dancing in the Rain.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Iconic.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. And sitting out in front of the prison with my feet up on the dashboard, and it's just kind of like, yeah, she's a cat, she's wild.

[Bowen Yang]

And then you get to be wild. Wild in the Louisiana swamps.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. They always say, live a normal life. And then in your imaginary life, you can do whatever you want.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. That's the coolest thing.

[Matt Rogers]

That's the coolest thing.

[Nicole Kidman]

Part of your normal life, so I'm very normal.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. Well, part of your normal life was going to Antarctica. Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

There's a note.

[Bowen Yang]

We're connected here.

[Matt Rogers]

We're connected.

[Nicole Kidman]

I can't believe we went.

[Bowen Yang]

You just missed each other.

[Matt Rogers]

We just missed each. We were on the same. So everyone. Nicole and I were on the same vessel, but at different times.

[Nicole Kidman]

I went before you.

[Matt Rogers]

You went before me. And people on the ship.

[Bowen Yang]

People.

[Matt Rogers]

First of all, can we just shout out the loveliest crew on the silver sea?

[Nicole Kidman]

Clover cloud. The loveliest, loveliest people. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And it just felt like this wonderful. Like, well, our boat was.

[Nicole Kidman]

Tell me your story.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

How'd you end up in Antarctica? Who were you with? And why did you go.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. And then. Would love to hear your version as well. Of course. Obviously. I just got back yesterday.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yesterday.

[Matt Rogers]

Yesterday. Because.

[Nicole Kidman]

So. It's all so present.

[Matt Rogers]

I woke up this morning still feeling the sway of the Drake Passage. Like my brain is still used to, like, being rocked by the currents, by

[Nicole Kidman]

the big currents, by the big currents.

[Matt Rogers]

So my. It's my mom.

[Nicole Kidman]

And the smell of penguins and the

[Matt Rogers]

smell of penguin shit.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's not the most alluring smell.

[Bowen Yang]

It breaks.

[Nicole Kidman]

The majesty of the penguins are divine. Gentoo penguins.

[Matt Rogers]

Gentoo chinstrap.

[Bowen Yang]

Ooh.

[Nicole Kidman]

We love them.

[Matt Rogers]

We love.

[Nicole Kidman]

Just not their diarrhea, their excretion.

[Bowen Yang]

You hate it.

[Matt Rogers]

And what makes you so confident?

[Nicole Kidman]

Did you go hiking on Diarrhea Island? That's what I called it. What a question.

[Bowen Yang]

Hiking on Diarrhea Island.

[Nicole Kidman]

That was Diarrhea Island. Yeah. I was like, I'm gonna just stay down here. I don't need to see those chicks, those peninsulas.

[Matt Rogers]

Who was calling it Diarrhea Island?

[Nicole Kidman]

Nicole Wasland and our whole family.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. Cause it was diarrhea. I saw no ice, just diarrhea.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, you missed that.

[Nicole Kidman]

Their stomachs must not have been upset.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, they were upset.

[Bowen Yang]

He didn't bring this up.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, no, but this is.

[Nicole Kidman]

This is just a sidebar. Antarctica is gorgeous.

[Bowen Yang]

We don't have to know. We don't have to make.

[Matt Rogers]

Let's make this the main bar. This is Diarrhea island is the topic of the rest of the episode.

[Bowen Yang]

We're never gonna go to Diarrhea Island. I already was never gonna go to Antarctica. I don't think it's for me.

[Nicole Kidman]

This is a small little section where there was a few penguins that had upset Stomachs.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

But beyond that, those are cries.

[Matt Rogers]

They're molting.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

They're just in a moment of just, like, letting it all in shock that I said it.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm hooked on it.

[Matt Rogers]

Just to hear, just to be asked by you, did you go hiking on Diarrhea Island?

[Bowen Yang]

On diarrhea or island?

[Matt Rogers]

Diarrhea or island?

[Nicole Kidman]

But back to. Back to the glorious sea of Antarctica and the sea lions and the kayaking

[Bowen Yang]

and the sea lions.

[Matt Rogers]

We kayaked.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, yes. Is that not the greatest thing in the world?

[Matt Rogers]

It was.

[Bowen Yang]

I was.

[Nicole Kidman]

The silence.

[Matt Rogers]

The silence.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

It must be the most.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, it is spectacular there.

[Matt Rogers]

Truly untouched.

[Nicole Kidman]

And the silence is unrivaled. I mean, there is. You hear nothing. Yeah. And the most peace that you. I mean, it truly is. And I meditated on the kayak for, like, five minutes and just went. I think this is the happiest I've ever been.

[Matt Rogers]

Now.

[Bowen Yang]

Is that because of the quiet?

[Nicole Kidman]

I think it's just everything that surrounds you there, and it's timeless. And then you're aware of the fragility of everything.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Wow, wow, wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Because you're aware of. Cause you're looking out, and it's like, this is untouched, uncorrupted by man. And you realize how much of our surroundings and how much of our interactions and how much of our psychic being is ruined by man.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

It's like. It feels like you're the most in touch with, like, nature as you ever have been. I felt that exact way in kayaking. The seals were abundant. We saw a glacier sort of crumble before our eyes, and people were like, oh. And I'm like, no, I think that's normal. I think it's a sound. It's a thunderous sound.

[Nicole Kidman]

Crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. No, but we. We had to go to Punta Arenas.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Been there, been there. And we were held for three days. They were about to go because of the weather. Cause of the weather. So they had to. We were like, so if they. If they pushed your trip back by three days, they canceled the entire cruise. So we were on day three. It was like Groundhog's Day in, like, Puento Arenas, this lovely Chilean town.

[Nicole Kidman]

So nice. So nice. Yeah. So warm. So friendly.

[Matt Rogers]

So friendly. Great food. And then great coffee. Great coffee. Great sea bass. Anyway.

[Bowen Yang]

And now I'm coming around.

[Matt Rogers]

And we're coming around.

[Nicole Kidman]

Did you not want to go?

[Bowen Yang]

I really didn't. It was gonna be my. I don't think so.

[Nicole Kidman]

I've gotta go. But you go with people that are very, very. Like the cruise we went on. Silver seas. You have to clean everything. I mean, they are so ecologically minded. You have to be so careful.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

Because you can't take any of our viruses or bacteria or anything into. Into that continent.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. You. You can't even. They won't let you kneel. Like, they won't let you crouch down.

[Nicole Kidman]

Like they don't want to swap everything. Yeah. It's very regimented. Very. Very sterile and clean.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, right, exactly.

[Nicole Kidman]

Listen to us.

[Bowen Yang]

Listen to us.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I mean, we're interested in this.

[Bowen Yang]

It's an ad for Antarctica. No.

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, it's kind of like.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a thing people.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's a thing.

[Matt Rogers]

People are going.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. And it's also. There's still very few people that have been. Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

What is the percentage? I think it's very low.

[Matt Rogers]

My mom was Saying it's like 1%, which is not. Which makes it gives it a bad rap. It's like. It's not 1 percenters. Clearly.

[Nicole Kidman]

It was people being like adventurers who go there. And you're an adventurer.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, it was. His parents dream to go. His mother's dream to go.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, you went with your parents.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes, I was with my parents and it was like a good son. I loved it.

[Nicole Kidman]

Good son.

[Matt Rogers]

No, it was great.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes. You didn't want to go, but you went for it.

[Matt Rogers]

I was genuinely excited.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes. I'm a good son. I'm a good.

[Bowen Yang]

You have six continents now, right?

[Matt Rogers]

Yes, I'm on six.

[Nicole Kidman]

You haven't done seven.

[Matt Rogers]

I haven't done seven. So I was stolen valley when I got.

[Nicole Kidman]

What continent have you not done?

[Matt Rogers]

I am dying to go to Africa. Right, okay. And still haven't done.

[Bowen Yang]

I need Africa and Antarctica.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

And Antarctica was. Oh, but this is just to say that, like, we. So then we're like, oh, we lost three days, but we're on the ship. This is great. And then I had to fly back in time to do the Actor Awards. But then. And they kept pushing the dates out of King because. Did you fly in or did you cross Drake Passage?

[Nicole Kidman]

We flew in.

[Matt Rogers]

We were doing.

[Bowen Yang]

Onto the ice Runway.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, we heard about this King George island crazy. So they wouldn't clear us to fly for three days. So then we got the other. The flip side of it on the way back, which is we're sailing Drake Passage, which is where the Atlantic and the Pacific meet the harshest waters.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's what happens if you don't. If you can't fly out. You. You do have to cross the path.

[Matt Rogers]

You do have to cross the pathways.

[Nicole Kidman]

I did not know that. I didn't do my full research.

[Matt Rogers]

No. And so when they broke the news to us, the room erupted in equal cheers and groans of agony.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

We were about the same. Cause we had it. We were held for an extra day.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

And there was tears of joy and tears of. I've gotta get back. I've got a job to do. I'm gonna lose my job. We gotta get off this boat.

[Matt Rogers]

So how did you and the daughters, how did you guys react to that, to being held in exercise?

[Nicole Kidman]

I was happy.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, good. And now you're a cruise person. You said on camera.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then I was like, but I gotta get off.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. There comes a time I can do

[Nicole Kidman]

one day, maybe two days, but I've gotta get back.

[Matt Rogers]

So I think you and I are the same.

[Nicole Kidman]

But I'm a cruise person now. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you really?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Cause you said you have two more planned.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

With Silversea.

[Nicole Kidman]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

One with Silversea.

[Matt Rogers]

Great. They're lovely.

[Nicole Kidman]

And one with Ritz Carlton.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, fun.

[Matt Rogers]

And the Imams.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm trying them all.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, good.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm ready. I'm ready. But my daughters, because there's only two of them, they're like, we want our family. So my sister has six kids. They have partners. They all. So I bring everyone. And then my best friend Since I was 4, all her children and their partner. It's just. We have a big tribe that we travel with, and we're all like. And then Katie, who's here, is like my sister. So we have, like, this huge tribe of people. And there's two women that work with me, who have worked with me for years, who are also like my sisters. So it's like, come on, we go. Let's go. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

No, there's nothing better than being able

[Nicole Kidman]

to bring you together. I grew up in a family where we travel in big groups and we would do things in big groups. So it's very comforting to me.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, definitely.

[Nicole Kidman]

So if I'm in the position to be able to share and do it, of course I'm doing it. I will work so hard so I can play hard.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. And also, it's like we were talking before the episode started about, like, why you'd rewatch something you've already seen or do something. For me, it's often, like, I want to watch other people experience this thing. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes I don't know what that Is. But it's like, maybe there's something to it for you and wanting everyone to be together. It's like, we're going to have an experience together. And I really do enjoy the. I don't know what that would be called, but that sort of, like, transference that happens when someone else is having a moment of awe and wonder or whatever the emotion is. You might be able to anticipate it yourself. But that's like. That's a thing.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's a thing. It's a thing. It's why I love throwing parties. You a party girl giving gifts? Yeah, I love doing that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a party girl.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

What did I say? I said, wants to somebody. And my kids were making fun of me. Oh, I love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

And they're like, does not go together, Mom. And I'm like, for me, it does.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

How do you feel? Do people still come up to you and bring up basement as sort of a cultural, like, touchstone now in a post Baby Girl society?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Baby Girl hit. We thought it was gonna be. Speak to older women primarily. It hit a younger generation and gay men in a way that I had no idea how.

[Bowen Yang]

The milk was huge. Milk is back now because of it. I had a glass of milk at dinner the other day. Good. Yeah. I just locked eyes with my waiter. No, I literally did.

[Nicole Kidman]

But it was fascinating what people related to in that film. We thought it was a very, very, very niche thing. And it actually kind of. It moved. It had tentacles that spread wide. And then in the same way that big little lies reached sort of a particular group of people. Baby Girl did.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I love that.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Cause it's unexpected to me, of course. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

As it's a dance.

[Nicole Kidman]

But I loved dancing in Baby Girl down there in that basement.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, so good.

[Nicole Kidman]

And we started. And I came out of that with COVID and the flu.

[Bowen Yang]

A double whammy. That's where it goes down.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's where it went down.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And how did it come back that you just ran all the tests?

[Nicole Kidman]

I got so sick and I knew going in, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going down here. I can just feel it. It's the middle of winter and it's running rampant right now, so.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, well.

[Bowen Yang]

Baby Girl went down.

[Nicole Kidman]

Baby Girl dropped.

[Matt Rogers]

Baby Girl dropped down to her on all fours. She fell on all fours?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Not even on all fours. Flat on my back. There we go. Okay, we're getting.

[Bowen Yang]

No, now we're cooking.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Bowen Yang]

I'm Brian.

[Matt Rogers]

I work at United Healthcare.

[Nicole Kidman]

So, Brian, why do you care?

[Matt Rogers]

I care because I don't want to leave anybody behind.

[Bowen Yang]

I oversee one of the biggest resource centers in UnitedHealthcare.

[Matt Rogers]

I see people walked in my office every day, just like my parents. They have no idea about the healthcare. I feel like they are my uncles, aunties. I treated people like family. I'm Brian, and I'm committed to care.

[Bowen Yang]

Now we have to ask you the question which is the central question of our podcast. Nicole Tidman, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? This can be a film you saw, a musical artist, something atmospheric.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, I'm gonna tell you. Couture.

[Bowen Yang]

Couture.

[Nicole Kidman]

Thank you. Yeah, it actually was, because all my dreams were based on it.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I would look at, like, the clothes and fashion and exquisite. And my mom would say, look at that and look how it's made. So from Audrey Hepburn to Grace Kelly to all the different houses given all of them, that's what, culturally, for me, made me dream.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow. Fashion.

[Nicole Kidman]

I grew up loving it. I somehow stumbled into being exposed to it. Standing there with Galliano fitting dresses on me and Lagerfeld fitting dresses on me, and being on the COVID of Vogue and having access to the most beautiful things to wear on your body.

[Bowen Yang]

When did that start?

[Nicole Kidman]

Little, because I was. I would stand on a table, and my grandmother would make all my clothes. But not kind of just haphazard put them together, like, hours and hours and hours. And she would put little collars on and little fur and a little trim and some ribbons. Everything was. Yeah. Couture. So I was baby couture. Oh, I was like. And I would stand there for hours because I wanted to wear the clothes.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you remember the first?

[Nicole Kidman]

And then I would dress my Barbie in couture clothes. Cause my grandmother would make my Barbie clothes. So I had clothes for my Barbie that nobody had.

[Bowen Yang]

Of course, the Barbie store.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then even my Ken doll had some flowers. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

This is before Chalamet. So wait, when do you. Do you remember the first designer or, like, artist in the fashion world that you worked with directly? And you felt like, oh, this is a moment for me in terms of an entry into the fashion world.

[Nicole Kidman]

I mean, the first one was John Galliano, and I was shooting Eyes Wide Shut, and so I was able to go over to Paris regularly, and I would stand there for them, and they would try things on me and try different fabrics and Then I would go in and try on the hats, and then I would go to Carl's house. Then it sort of just was. You know, it was just a bridge. And from that point on, I was. And you have really. They don't come to you. You have to go to them, and you have to be willing to be a mannequin, like a model, and just. And let them design to you. And because I'd been so tall and skinny my whole life, suddenly there was a reason to be tall and skinny.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't morph icon. Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I wanted always to be short and curvy. And so suddenly it was like, oh, I can be tall and skinny, and somebody doesn't mind that.

[Matt Rogers]

And there's a purpose. I mean, what are you anticipating?

[Nicole Kidman]

They can utilize it.

[Matt Rogers]

Of course. Of course. Are you anticipating anything in particular with MET Gala this year as being part of the host committee? Because I feel like it's such a pivotal year for the gala.

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, I just get to be there with Beyonce.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you kidding?

[Matt Rogers]

That's all that matters.

[Podcast Announcer]

That's it.

[Nicole Kidman]

Done my job. I'm done.

[Bowen Yang]

Here we go.

[Nicole Kidman]

Truly.

[Bowen Yang]

But is it a thing where you guys. Do you discuss. Do you get. As being part of the host committee with Anna?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, we work with Anna, who is iconic and a genius.

[Matt Rogers]

No, she's staying on to always chair the gala.

[Bowen Yang]

The gala. Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

We need Anna.

[Matt Rogers]

We do.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, we need Anna. Anna has created so many people's careers. She's a massive supporter of art and fashion and women. I mean, she's extraordinary. And so therefore, to be able to. And this is. I think it's the third time I've. Coach had, I think.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

So. But to do it now, I'm so, so happy. And my daughter. Sunday will be coming.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, amazing.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That's so fun. That's another thing you get to do with your daughter. That's incredible.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

And she loves fashion. She's actually just walked the Dior show. She says, yeah, she's flying back from Paris now. I know.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my God. That's the crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

I know.

[Nicole Kidman]

Which I have nothing to do with. It's her whole world and her relationship, and she and Jonathan Anderson and. Yeah, it's incredible.

[Bowen Yang]

I was thinking, as you were talking, like, you mentioned Grace Kelly, who you got to portray. You mentioned Audrey Hepburn, who obviously, in Big Little Lies, you guys all get to do the Audrey Hepburn getter. And I did read.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then there's Marilyn, who I. Of course, I'll always be in love with Marilyn.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean. Yes. And also I wanted to ask about Lucille Ball because I think that that's one of my favorite performances you've ever done. You really did capture just, like, her, like, relentless commitment to getting. I just.

[Nicole Kidman]

To getting it right.

[Bowen Yang]

To getting it right.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And I wonder if that's something that you connected with.

[Nicole Kidman]

That was it, like, she's a harder worker than me. She knew what she wanted. She had to be. She came in an era when she had to be such a trailblazer. She had to. She was so brilliant that her. And comedy is detailed. So as she would say, comedy is detail. You can't be generalized. You can't be haphazard. Sometimes you'll stumble on a joke. But if you're really doing comedy and comedy every week that has to deliver time and time again, then that is arduous, hard, technical, skilled work. It's not just, fly by night, give it a whirl, you know, and that's what. But that's what I learned from playing her. She was also an amazing businesswoman at a time when there were not women at the helm. And she had a very, you know, complicated love relationship. And she loved him. And she was this, you know, just extraordinary being. So to be able to play her, whether I looked like her or not, I was able to capture her voice, at least, and her mannerisms. And then it was like I couldn't get rid of her, and she was in me. But it was so fun. And half the stuff that we prepared and everything was not in the film. So.

[Bowen Yang]

Really?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

In terms of the staging of the

[Nicole Kidman]

show, that's really cool. So I could do every movement. Every single movement. Like, by. I studied and studied, and with a movement, like, we did so much prep, and then a tiny bit of it is in there, but that's. That's performance. You have to do an enormous amount of work, and maybe it makes the cut or maybe it doesn't. You can't be attached to it.

[Bowen Yang]

Kind of complicated theater that was doing sitcom at the time that I guess you have experience doing.

[Matt Rogers]

But, like, gosh. And we're talking about it. Cause I completely agree, and it's funny. I was even watching Being the Ricardos when I had Omicron and I had to miss my only SNL, which was that. Which was that episode in December 2021. But I was watching you, and it did just give me this. It did just download me with this notion that, like, you have to. Comedy is logistics. What did you say earlier? Comedy is detail.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, detail.

[Nicole Kidman]

All in the details.

[Matt Rogers]

It's all in the details.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then. Where's the laugh? Where's the laugh? Okay, there it is. And they were lucky. Cause they have the live studio audience, so they had the feedback. I think it must be so hard trying to do that without that, because this is like, okay, great. We know that works. We know that. It's like when you do theater and you go, great, right? That's working. Or you're surprised at what works, and then you go, geez, I thought that wasn't gonna work. And that just landed.

[Matt Rogers]

I know.

[Nicole Kidman]

Hold that, save that. We can layer that now. Now we can add and add and add.

[Bowen Yang]

There's also nothing more distracting than an artificial laugh track. Like some of. Some of the multicams that they do now where you can tell there's an artificial laugh track. I'm like, I don't think we. I mean, we probably didn't need it.

[Nicole Kidman]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

Because it's just you.

[Matt Rogers]

You.

[Bowen Yang]

We know from years of growing up on that, like.

[Matt Rogers]

Right. It's like watching an AI video. It's like, I know the artifice here.

[Bowen Yang]

And so therefore a little off in terms of the volume of the reaction or the timing of the reaction.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean. But you've never hosted SNL before, have you?

[Bowen Yang]

No. Back in the 90s, you did.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, oh, oh, yeah, I did. Does this motivate you to do it? Did any of that motivate you, or are you itching?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, I would love to do it again.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, you should.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's just a lot of work.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it is.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's a lot of work.

[Matt Rogers]

And it's about sort of. Gosh. Cause I was gonna say it's about relinquishing the control, but also being so. Just so fastidious with it too.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm happy to relinquish control to people that know what they're doing. So I would be happy to come back and do it and try stuff and just play. Cause really, it is playing. Right. But it's also when you have two kids and you live in Nashville and you work and you've got a whole other. It's a lot to commit to. But I mean, it's an honor if you're ever asked.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

So, yeah. Bow down. I would like. I would so love to. I'm sort of ready now. Cause I'm also at a place where

[Bowen Yang]

I go, ah, yeah, let's do it.

[Nicole Kidman]

Give it a try. If you fall flat on your face, it's okay. Get back up.

[Matt Rogers]

You kind of skipped the idea. Diarrhea Island.

[Bowen Yang]

You have no Idea where I've been, what it smelled like.

[Nicole Kidman]

That smell is a particular smell.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I not replicable anymore.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm very, very smell sensitive.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, like. Yeah, we're gonna get to this part of it. My personality.

[Bowen Yang]

You have a heightened smell.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, you did come in and complimented our scent.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on a smell.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank God you're still here. So I was like.

[Nicole Kidman]

And you. I. You make me laugh. And I love you both. And I love how you smell. Check this out. This is good.

[Bowen Yang]

Really good vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

Really good vibe.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, so I. Do we have to ask you this other thing, which is. So we've had Rhys and Laura here.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes. My girls the best.

[Bowen Yang]

My girls, the best time with both of them. Rhys came in and she did an impression of you.

[Nicole Kidman]

I've heard it. Then it's wrong.

[Bowen Yang]

Laura came in and did an impression of Rhys. So. So we have to know if you have a Laura Dern.

[Matt Rogers]

In a word, she says you definitely do.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah. Now let's talk about this. Yes, this is happening. Yes. Right. I know. Yes. It's the warmest, most responsive. And you go, she gets me.

[Matt Rogers]

Me.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, she's resonating from her spirit.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

That is.

[Matt Rogers]

Lord.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Nicole Kidman]

Right? Yeah, it is that, isn't it?

[Bowen Yang]

And then she said her arms, like, it's a little bit at the elbows. You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

She articulates from here. You know what I'm saying?

[Nicole Kidman]

But seeing those two together, watching them improv. Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Hilarious.

[Nicole Kidman]

They should actually have their own improv show. They are hilarious.

[Bowen Yang]

We were laughing.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, but you haven't seen them together.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Nicole Kidman]

When they throw it back, I mean, they're both brilliant comedians. Yes, brilliant. And then I just worked with one of the other brilliant comedians of my generation and Sandy Bullock.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I'm non. Practical magic, too.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, I.

[Bowen Yang]

Absolutely.

[Nicole Kidman]

But I mean, those women own it.

[Bowen Yang]

Of course they are. Come on.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. And. And Julia. Julia Rose.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, of course.

[Nicole Kidman]

The great comedians of the generation.

[Bowen Yang]

Can we not sleep on your performance and just go with it, please? Okay. Because there are people I know, and I'm gonna shout them out. Jared Frieder. Who says that's Nicole's best. Yes. Just go with it. You don't have. You have no idea how many.

[Nicole Kidman]

Dave Matthews. Where I'm dancing on the thing. You've got to.

[Bowen Yang]

You worked with everyone.

[Matt Rogers]

What haven't you done? That's amazing. It's truly incredible.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. We were in. I was in Hawaii with Adam Sandler and Jen, I mean, come on, can it get better than that?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

And Dave Matthews.

[Bowen Yang]

We gotta get you on the morning show. Yeah, we gotta get you in there with Rhys and Jen on the morning show.

[Nicole Kidman]

In all my spare time.

[Bowen Yang]

I do have a question about how you do all of it. Like, do you look at your calendar and is it. Are you booked through December at this point?

[Nicole Kidman]

Actually, no.

[Bowen Yang]

You're not?

[Nicole Kidman]

No, I'm not.

[Bowen Yang]

Is that a purposeful choice for this year?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, I'm open as of the summer.

[Matt Rogers]

Cool.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm just like, I'm going. Okay. What's coming my way? I give you a not know.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, we have this Friday.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm not. But I'm. I'm. I've got some holidays planned.

[Bowen Yang]

There we go.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, I'm all about dinner parties. Vacation.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. Right.

[Nicole Kidman]

So. So I got a cruise planned.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Where are you going? Can you share?

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, I can't tell. I'll tell you off. Please.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm going to Thailand for the first time and I'm.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, lovely. Oh, yeah, I love Thailand.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Never been.

[Nicole Kidman]

Been all over Thailand.

[Bowen Yang]

I do feel like for some reason

[Nicole Kidman]

I filmed in Thailand.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Twice. I did Bangkok Hilton when I was really, really young. And then I did a film, Railway Man.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, you don't know that film.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think I know Railway man.

[Nicole Kidman]

But I'm honest with you and say

[Bowen Yang]

I tell you where.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Bowen Yang]

This is the Nicole Kul. Yes, yes, yes. I'm happy you did. You can watch it all. But no, I'm. I'm excited because I do feel like it's this weird random thing that keeps happening where I end up going on a vacation to wherever the last White Lotus was.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait a minute.

[Nicole Kidman]

Thank you, Mike White.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you, Mike White.

[Nicole Kidman]

Where's he going next? Where did he say he's going? You should get ahead of it.

[Matt Rogers]

He's going south of France.

[Bowen Yang]

It's camp.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, lovely.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you know that? No, that's a rumor.

[Nicole Kidman]

Fire out. That's going to throw down. Right, let's go.

[Bowen Yang]

This is what the buzz is on the streets.

[Nicole Kidman]

Well, he said he's ingenious. Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

There was an interview he did the other day where he said the interview deals some with celebrity and about people who are comfortable being seeking out a love that is more than just with one other person. They need a love of something larger. And about answering that question of why and about how people can feel when they're in a relationship with someone who needs more love than just one person can Provide really interesting. And I think that like, like, you know, obviously there's going to be things back to.

[Nicole Kidman]

That person is not satiated with themselves. Right? Yeah, of course they're not in love with themselves.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Nicole Kidman]

Is that what is filling the hole? Probably they're not at peace. So that's a pretty. You're. I mean, you're going to face. You're going to have to face the. The reality of what this life is at some point. So whether you're going to allow yourself to come to that place or whether you're just gonna get felled by it. Right. It's a choice. So you can do the work to actually try to. And it's never done, but you can always be going, okay, what do I do here? How do I. What. What is the next chapter? Particularly when you get to a certain stage in life, it's like, okay, where am I at now with who I am? And. And am I okay being alone? Cause as soon as you're okay with. And when I say being alone, like really being alone, it's not just being alone for a couple of days in your apartment. It's am I okay with being alone? There will be nobody there when I die. Is that gonna be okay?

[Matt Rogers]

Are you?

[Nicole Kidman]

No. But you know, you can't. You don't know. Of course, at some point you've gotta

[Matt Rogers]

just face the facts, which is about

[Nicole Kidman]

you come talking to me like, shh, jeez.

[Bowen Yang]

This is about 80s. I think about it alone.

[Nicole Kidman]

Because those dark.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

3am in the morning when you wake up and you are alone, well, that then is like, okay, this is where I have to be at peace.

[Matt Rogers]

And being at peace is just about like assigning meaning to. If the meaning you're assigning to your life is not like deleterious in some aspect to your vitality. It's like if it's like this thing of like, if your love has to involve the love of other people in this way that is a little grotesque or untenable or unsustainable. It's like that is going to eat away at something. You have to find. You have to switch gears and find a different reason to like be alive and to give yourself meaning. Besides this thing that is not healthy

[Bowen Yang]

for you, we can't give you what you're needing from it. Mm.

[Nicole Kidman]

Mm. Never will.

[Bowen Yang]

Never.

[Nicole Kidman]

Never.

[Bowen Yang]

Mike White, and you think he's. Do you ever watch any reality television? Because he's fully on Survivor right now. You didn't know this? Mike White is a Survivor contestant. He came in second oh, I'm so happy to tell you this. He came in second on a season of Survivor years ago. Post him being a well known Hollywood writer way after, you know, School of Rock and enlightened and all of that. He went on Survivor, came in second place in a tough like. Well, did he have to eat something? I'm sure it's hard.

[Nicole Kidman]

What do you have to do?

[Matt Rogers]

You gotta, you gotta live, gotta do

[Bowen Yang]

the Tribal council, the votes, all that came in second place.

[Matt Rogers]

Second.

[Bowen Yang]

And now he's on. This is the 50th season where they've brought back all the icons of the show and I guess some somehow he fit into his schedule going out there for nearly 30 days and competing on Survivor. He's on it right now.

[Nicole Kidman]

How's he doing?

[Matt Rogers]

Well, it's only one week, but so far so good.

[Bowen Yang]

And his whole narrative in the first episode was he took his shirt off and he had like this ripped body and everyone was like Mike White. But I was like, I mean, man's got a Hollywood trainer.

[Matt Rogers]

There you go.

[Bowen Yang]

But that was the whole. His whole narrative on the first episode was, oh my God, he's ripped.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's crazy. I had no idea.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But you watch everything but reality tv.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, I sometimes watch reality tv. I've watched it with my daughters and I've been like, oh, no, this is too much. Turn it off.

[Bowen Yang]

What are they into?

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm not allowed to talk about what they're into or anything.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, God.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm too. I get called millennial.

[Matt Rogers]

So join the, Join the club.

[Bowen Yang]

Join the club.

[Matt Rogers]

You're in the right place.

[Nicole Kidman]

And that is not a compliment, right?

[Bowen Yang]

Of course not From a teenager.

[Nicole Kidman]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

But you do have reputation like, like for watching a lot like Reese does. The impression of you being like, we have to get this direction.

[Nicole Kidman]

But I watch films and I watch. Yeah. I'm, I'm like. That's why you were like Andrea Arnold. Yeah. I'm like, who is this? This over here in Norway right now? And over in. Yeah, I'm like, I love to that. I've grown up doing that. I would go and I would sit in a dark there and I would watch subtitle films. Since I was little was my access to the world and I also wanted to raise global children. So that's why my kids have been to seven continents.

[Bowen Yang]

That's amazing.

[Matt Rogers]

As of two weeks ago or three weeks ago. Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Crazy, right?

[Bowen Yang]

They hit seven at what ages?

[Nicole Kidman]

She's 15, the youngest and 17. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Beautiful.

[Bowen Yang]

That's amazing.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. And now they Gotta go round two.

[Bowen Yang]

We have to find a new continent. We gotta go to space. There's the moon. There is the moon. The eighth continent, the moon. It's actually roller culture number 15.

[Matt Rogers]

The eighth.

[Bowen Yang]

There is the moon. The eighth continent, the Moon. Well, I'm trying to think if they. Before we do. I don't think so, honey. If there's anything else. I need to pick our guests for an expression.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't like.

[Bowen Yang]

Pick brain.

[Matt Rogers]

Pick brain?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. You can pick my brain. Pick my heart.

[Matt Rogers]

Your heart? Oh, okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait. You know that you have one of the most iconic Vogue 73 questions.

[Nicole Kidman]

I do?

[Bowen Yang]

You do.

[Nicole Kidman]

I did not know see either my six alpacas. Yeah, that. I mean, there's only four now.

[Matt Rogers]

There's only four. I'm so sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

We going to get two new ones?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, good. Yeah, we got to keep it at six alpacas.

[Nicole Kidman]

My six alpacas. And then they're like, can you lead the alpaca through the frame? We're like, no, no, no. That you do not understand. We were like, come on, come on, come on, Byron. Named after Lord Byron. Come on, come on, Byron. Nope. Byron was like, no. Then we're like, forget it. This doesn't look good. Byron. We're pulling Lord Byron.

[Bowen Yang]

Byron.

[Nicole Kidman]

So just like. No. Sit on the porch. How many takes was yours?

[Bowen Yang]

How many takes was yours?

[Nicole Kidman]

Maybe six.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, wow. It's a long day. Day.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's a long day. But you kind of play and. Yeah, but you walked all through my country estate.

[Bowen Yang]

I love gorgeous.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's different now.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I've redesigned it. I redid it. Might need another 73 questions there.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, we have to go back. We'll do it. Not that we want to do it. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

There's more animals. There you go.

[Bowen Yang]

There we go. Reason to return Chase Meridian.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't send me the questions.

[Nicole Kidman]

As miniature goats now.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, perfect.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, to die for. You just watched to die for.

[Bowen Yang]

For the first time.

[Nicole Kidman]

You didn't meet the horses.

[Bowen Yang]

No, we didn't.

[Nicole Kidman]

To see that many, many more. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Because he had never. Okay, so he had. He had a blind spot, which was my six alpacas. He had a blind spot, which is to die for, which was. No, he's seen it now. Finally saw it. To die for. I love Suzanne Stone.

[Matt Rogers]

Suzanne Stone. I feel like Sandstone is a killer. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But I love her for.

[Nicole Kidman]

But a pretty killer.

[Bowen Yang]

She was a gorgeous killer. But I have to say, like, there's just something again. Maybe it is.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's Buck Henry and Gus Van V. Santino.

[Matt Rogers]

I can't believe Buck Henry wrote that. And Gus.

[Nicole Kidman]

Buck Henry for everyone. If you saw the Graduate, he wrote the Graduate. I mean, he's one of the great, great writers. And then Gus Van Sant. What can we say?

[Bowen Yang]

I also shout out to, obviously, Joaquin, but Ileana Douglas, oh, amazing in that movie. And gets lost in the conversation of great performances from that era. That. That's a great performance.

[Matt Rogers]

Was she already a skater when you guys shot?

[Nicole Kidman]

No, she couldn't skate. She said she could skate. Hey, we're at it.

[Bowen Yang]

I love it.

[Nicole Kidman]

Can you ice skate? Absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

Absolutely I can.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then she was on the ice. Not so good. Not so good.

[Matt Rogers]

She made it look good.

[Bowen Yang]

It's so good in the movie.

[Nicole Kidman]

She in a double.

[Matt Rogers]

She in a double.

[Nicole Kidman]

But no, but she did. She got there. But, you know, that's what you say. Can you ride a horse? Absolutely. Can you ice skate? Yes, I can. Can you? What just said? Have you done that?

[Bowen Yang]

Have you lied?

[Nicole Kidman]

I've said, yeah, I can sing. And then Baz is like, we're gonna need more singing lessons. You know, it's always yes.

[Matt Rogers]

It's always yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

And then you grow.

[Matt Rogers]

Because you know who I'm talking? I'm talking to Gina Gershon tonight. Cause her book, her memoir just came. She's the best.

[Nicole Kidman]

I've never given my love I will.

[Matt Rogers]

All throughout her memoir, she's like, every. Every role I've got, like, Showgirls. Can you dance? Yeah. No. It's like. It's like you just say yes. You have to. You have to. I will, I will.

[Bowen Yang]

But then it's gonna become where it's like, can you ski? And I'm going to be like, yeah, and you really can. Then it's a hazard. So say yes. Within reason, people.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah. It's dangerous when you sit. It's like, how much do you want. Want the role?

[Bowen Yang]

Exactly. Pretty.

[Nicole Kidman]

And they're. They're onto us now because then they're like, okay, well, show us they've got it. They've hacked us as actors. I know directors and producers are like, send me a tape. Show me.

[Matt Rogers]

Not that anyone has to put you through your pace.

[Bowen Yang]

I know, like, you've proven you can do everything. Also, like, what I'm.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm on. I'm on a. I'm just on a massive learning curve. I'm always like, okay, teach me, teach me. I'm teachable. That would be a good attribute to say I'm teachable.

[Bowen Yang]

Teachable. That's a great thing to be.

[Matt Rogers]

I think it's Time for.

[Nicole Kidman]

I hope it is.

[Bowen Yang]

Might be time for. I don't think so, honey.

[Nicole Kidman]

And I'm not rigid.

[Bowen Yang]

No, certainly not.

[Nicole Kidman]

And I always wake up in a good mood. Yes, I always.

[Bowen Yang]

You always wake up in a good way. What do you attribute that to?

[Nicole Kidman]

I don't know. Born that way. You wake up. Yeah, I've always woken up in a good mood.

[Bowen Yang]

Does that correlate to how you go to bed?

[Nicole Kidman]

I go to bed. I. I have trouble sleeping because I have a lot of energy. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you drink coffee or.

[Matt Rogers]

You don't even need it or.

[Nicole Kidman]

Not after midday, but I did today. That's why I'm kind of jacked up now. Can you tell? I'm usually a lot quieter, more sedate. Yeah, I feel a bit jacked up, actually.

[Bowen Yang]

I had a cold brew today and then two Coke Zero, so. I'm a killing machine.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, yeah?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

Will you sleep tonight?

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe not, but that would be because I was so excited about this.

[Nicole Kidman]

You're so excited.

[Bowen Yang]

No, I'm serious. We have been dying that you're coming.

[Matt Rogers]

No, it felt cosmically right. When on the boat were like, you know who was just. Here's Nicole Kidman. I was like, I'm talking to her next week. It was. It was crazy. I feel like even though you are caffeine post midday, it is still talking to you and being with you in person, it is still the thing of, like, oh, well, Nicole Kidman, like, has levitated in all her roles, essentially. You know what I mean? It's like you have this, like, airy likeness.

[Nicole Kidman]

You can come and feel so good.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, you really have given so much to culture and that's what our podcast is about. And we've now been for 10 years. And I would imagine you probably come up, like, you know, quite often, to say the least. And I just think back to all the eras of, like, our life as moviegoers, and you have a place in all of them. And I just.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

And in so many different ways, like, whether it's like, as mainstream as Batman or as niche as something like birth, you know what I mean? Or, you know, Dogville or Dogville. I mean, like, this is like, you are a true. You have a true artist spirit and you're also this, like, megawatt movie star and they just. They don't make them like you anymore. Like, Margot Robbie must be like spiritual sister to you.

[Nicole Kidman]

She's my. Yeah. And I love Emma Stone. I love how she's so brave and she's just like, yeah, Shave my head. Absolutely. What do you want, Yorgos? Let's go. But then, you know, I've just went and worked with Osgood Perkins. I did a small role in Young People, which is this horror film that he's got coming out, and I love him and I wanted to go and support him. So he's like, I've written this role. It's three days work. And I'm like, yep, yep, I'm coming. Coming your way.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

So I just love being able to do something like Practical Magic, which is a big studio film, and then go do a fully independent Crazy Wild Thing with a bunch of really great young actresses who are rising stars.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, we're good friends with Megan Fahey and just. Yeah, love.

[Nicole Kidman]

And she's. She's so good.

[Bowen Yang]

She's amazing.

[Nicole Kidman]

She is on the cusp of being massive.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, she can do it all.

[Nicole Kidman]

She can do it all.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. I mean, did you see Drop?

[Nicole Kidman]

She's sort of effortless. No heavens.

[Bowen Yang]

She was in this movie called Drop, which came out last year, which was. She plays a single mom recently. Single mom who goes on the first date she's been on since her abuser husband, like, took his own life and tried to kill her. And she's finally got her legs again, and she goes on a blind date with this guy and she sits down at dinner and she starts getting airdropped messages from someone at her home who's kidnapped her son. And so it's just. It's sort of like. Like a. It's like a.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like a red eye.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't even know.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's like, oh, I'm gonna watch it.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, it's good. And Megan is fantastic in it. She just holds the frame and she's just so.

[Nicole Kidman]

And she's gorgeous and she's talented.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I'm gonna text her after this.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Anyways, all that and more.

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

I'm Brian.

[Matt Rogers]

I work at UnitedHealthcare.

[Nicole Kidman]

So Brian, why do you care?

[Matt Rogers]

I care because I don't want to leave anybody behind.

[Bowen Yang]

I oversee one of the biggest resource centers in UnitedHealthcare.

[Matt Rogers]

I see people walking walked in my office every day just like my parents. They have no idea about the health care. I feel like they are my uncles, aunties. I treated people like family. I'm Brian and I'm committed to care.

[Bowen Yang]

It's time for I Don't think so honey. We take one minute to tear something up in culture.

[Nicole Kidman]

We time It.

[Matt Rogers]

We time it.

[Bowen Yang]

We time it, you'll see how it goes.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, I know.

[Bowen Yang]

All right, I'm ready to go. It's not gonna be popular with the rest of the panel here today, but I'm just gonna go ahead and do it.

[Matt Rogers]

I know where this is going. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey's time starts now.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so, honey. Antarctica. No, because I FaceTime my girl on the way to Antarctica, and she's supine in a rickety vessel with the. What do you call it?

[Matt Rogers]

A scop patch. A scop patch.

[Bowen Yang]

Whatever this is. You have to learn what that is to go to Antarctica. He's got the scop patch. Whatever it is, however you goddamn spell it on his neck. I. He goes, yeah, but I can't see. My girl is cross eyed supine on the Drake's Passage. Now I know what the Drake's Passage is. The most treacherous one is where the Atlantic meets the Pacific. I don't think so, honey. Keep them separate. I see my girl finally gets to Antarctica, takes a few pictures, sends me a video. It's the iceberg falling apart. The iceberg takes the video of the iceberg, and I say, now, is that supposed to happen? He says. They go, yes and no. I go, okay. Not great information for me on tonight. I. I don't think so, honey. Antarctica, you can kind of get there. Kind of not. You have to wait days. Nicole Kimman's flying in on an ice. What is it called? The pathway? I don't know. So, honey. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute, just maybe not for me. I can get. I can get Africa in. And that'll be six.

[Matt Rogers]

And you're gonna keep it.

[Nicole Kidman]

We'll work on you.

[Bowen Yang]

We'll work on.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's a bad. That there. No, we can delete that.

[Bowen Yang]

We're deleting. We can delete that. It's funny. Okay. But I will say I had planned to do that one, so I did it. But you guys do make it sound really appealing and adventurous. Oh, good, the quiet moved you off.

[Nicole Kidman]

Now, truly, you've already changed your mind.

[Bowen Yang]

That's my prerogative. My prerogative.

[Matt Rogers]

The patch is transdermal. It steadies your optic nerve. So then I couldn't see.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yikes. Yeah, I didn't do the patch. I just was.

[Bowen Yang]

Pug, you roughed it.

[Matt Rogers]

You were dragging. Oh, I just did it.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm a Navy seal. No, I've been told that with pain.

[Bowen Yang]

Really?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

What made Someone say that to you, Destroyer?

[Nicole Kidman]

Because I can. No, no. For some reason, Destroyer, They're a broken bone and just still not even go and get it X rayed and not check it and walk around and just say, it's a pulled muscle.

[Matt Rogers]

Really?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

[Matt Rogers]

Holy moly.

[Bowen Yang]

Now that's concerning.

[Nicole Kidman]

Not normal for a redhead. Cause usually you feel extra pain. That's what they say.

[Bowen Yang]

Redheads feel extra pain.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Is that a recessive gene thing?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, it's something to do. They just say, well, I'm not that. Yeah, I can, like, I don't know. I put myself in a trance.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

They go, do you need the anesthesia? No.

[Matt Rogers]

Huh.

[Bowen Yang]

So you needed to Survivor is what you're saying.

[Nicole Kidman]

I wish I'd known Mike was doing it. I would have done it with him.

[Bowen Yang]

Honestly. I don't think it's too late. We might get him back for another surgery if he's Mike.

[Nicole Kidman]

You should have texted me and said, you want to do this together?

[Bowen Yang]

Honestly.

[Nicole Kidman]

And we would have gone head to head.

[Matt Rogers]

You would have gone head to head.

[Nicole Kidman]

I definitely would have come in second. You know, I think I will come in last, though. Cause I give up easily.

[Bowen Yang]

No, you don't. You can walk around with a broken bone.

[Nicole Kidman]

No, but in terms of a competition, that's that I would just go, eh, I give up.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you not a competitive person?

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm not good to have on a sports team because I was always chosen last for the volleyball team because I just was like, well, is this really important? Do we have to win this?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm not a good Devil's tennis partner because I'm like, oh, I can psychologically. I need some sports psychology.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm with you.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I give up. I'm like, didn't matter. See, I think for me, it matters too much. Girl, I'm so sorry.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Let's all to dinner, you know, let's

[Bowen Yang]

have a glass of wine.

[Nicole Kidman]

It's just too stressful. Life's too stressful.

[Bowen Yang]

Life's too stressful to care about life.

[Nicole Kidman]

Winning the volleyball game, not all the tennis match. Let's just play some recreational tennis.

[Bowen Yang]

Hit the ball back and forth.

[Nicole Kidman]

I said hit the ball. Nicole, what are you doing? See, Serve it.

[Bowen Yang]

They. They. They're not going to get what they want.

[Matt Rogers]

Right?

[Bowen Yang]

Your tennis partner?

[Nicole Kidman]

No. Oh, but I'll play and I'll wear a short tennis skirt and try to look cute.

[Bowen Yang]

Give the. Give the vibe.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Nicole Kidman]

Couture.

[Matt Rogers]

Couture.

[Bowen Yang]

I was just say it's couture. Couture, tennis, playing, all that training. Are you ready? I don't think so, honey. Okay, here we go.

[Nicole Kidman]

Speak really fast.

[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Dangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think so, honey. The scam. The long con that is outdoor furniture. What do you mean I gotta tie it down? What do you mean that a cough of a Victorian child could blow the cushions into another yard? Now I'm doing parkour from one patio to the next just to fetch my damn stained water stained cushions for my rickety rattan rattan chair. I gotta tie up the umbrella that is also gonna be marked by the dirt and minerals of rain. I don't know, man. If you gotta tie down anything so it doesn't blow away like tumbleweed, I don't think it's worth buying and placing in your own space. Outdoor furniture, It's a scam. Your outdoor rugs, they're gonna look like shit in six months. Wait for one season to pass by, it'll look bad.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's one minute that is true. I have to co sign this.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm co signing it too.

[Matt Rogers]

And you on a damn farm, Nicole.

[Nicole Kidman]

And I'm like, you get the beautiful, warm, stained wood, and they're like, no, the silver ratty is actually what it's meant to look like. And you're like, no, no. I wanted it to stay looking like it was in the store. That's what you said it would do. It's just like any furniture you put outside. And then it gets old and ratty.

[Matt Rogers]

It's in particular. Faster.

[Nicole Kidman]

Faster, actually than the indoor furniture. You're right. So just drag the indoor furniture outside when you need it.

[Matt Rogers]

You might as well. You might as well.

[Bowen Yang]

It gets incredibly dirty incredibly quickly. Especially in la, where at least where my place is like just filth.

[Matt Rogers]

I think anywhere.

[Nicole Kidman]

I agree. I agree.

[Matt Rogers]

Anywhere.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm just saying I don't think so, honey.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you. That part. And you know, I hate thinking about you doing parkour around the building like you're spider man or something.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm running around going, hey, pal, my little topiary fell into your whatever. You know what I mean?

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah. And then you've got the outdoor cushions piled up indoors, taking up space base. Not looking good. Where do we put these? Just shove them in the corner. And you're like, just. Just get rid of them.

[Bowen Yang]

Get rid of it.

[Nicole Kidman]

They're ugly.

[Matt Rogers]

I have to have a storage bin for the tarps to cover the grill.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so, honey. Tarps. Can I say nothing good happens around the tarp.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, no.

[Bowen Yang]

Like lay down the tarp.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, that was another thing in Antarctica that we had. You couldn't put anything to you to put it down on the tarp. You to put your life jacket onto the tarp. You to protect it all that.

[Nicole Kidman]

To protect it all.

[Matt Rogers]

It's beautiful.

[Bowen Yang]

More of the Antarctica energy around the world.

[Matt Rogers]

I think so.

[Bowen Yang]

Because I will say we went to Tokyo, then came back to America, couldn't believe how filthy we are by comparison. Like, you walk around New York and you compare it to Tokyo, it's like absolutely absurd. Like I. You don't even see it because you're so used to it.

[Matt Rogers]

I know, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, but it's like the that and

[Nicole Kidman]

like it's all about the contrast, isn't it? And then you to open your eyes. Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

That's why it's important to travel.

[Matt Rogers]

I agree.

[Bowen Yang]

I agree.

[Matt Rogers]

Now it's time.

[Nicole Kidman]

Uh oh, mine.

[Bowen Yang]

This is going to be good.

[Matt Rogers]

I think, I think you've got it. You've got the idea.

[Nicole Kidman]

I've got the idea.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You're going to absolutely crush it.

[Matt Rogers]

This is Nicole Kidman's. I don't think so, honey. And her time starts now.

[Nicole Kidman]

I don't think so, honey. If you have bad breath. I can't, I cannot stand bad breath. I mean, this is a deal breaker for me. Like, you could be the most gorgeous, gorgeous guy and you come at me with bad breath and I'm like, no, no, no, it's off. Right? It's like if I say breathe on me and I have to recoil. Yikes. I'm out. I am out. You could not offer me enough money.

[Matt Rogers]

30 seconds.

[Nicole Kidman]

And so therefore, when Alexander Skarsgrd ate a falafel sandwich before we the scenes in Big Little Lies, I'm like, no, no, no, Alex, I'm meant to be kissing you and into you. Put away the falafel now. Right. Because the bad breath does not turn me on. As I said, it is very important to smell good. But more importantly, the mouth, the taste of the mouth and the smell of the mouth is very important to me.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's one minute.

[Bowen Yang]

I have to say, Alessander Skarsgrd has been having such a moment with Pilian and you just knocked him out.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm sure he did not eat a falafel ever again.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, you looked him in the eyes and just said.

[Nicole Kidman]

I said no more falafel.

[Bowen Yang]

No more that.

[Nicole Kidman]

Nope. Not before you kiss. Not before you make love. No more falafel.

[Bowen Yang]

No more falafel before you make love.

[Nicole Kidman]

No more falafel away.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a rule of culture number 50.

[Matt Rogers]

No more falafel.

[Bowen Yang]

No more falafel before you make love.

[Matt Rogers]

Before you make love. And I just have to say, for an actor of your caliber to say that falafel could destroy the reality of the scene. Could just render. Could render the scene work completely meaningless. Purely on breath. You really are an olfactory queen.

[Bowen Yang]

You are an olfactory queen.

[Nicole Kidman]

Solar brat. The smell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want me to lean in?

[Bowen Yang]

Is that your most common sense?

[Nicole Kidman]

Totally.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah. Smell tied to memory.

[Nicole Kidman]

Which is why when I lost it, I was relieved.

[Matt Rogers]

After Basement, you said, unburden me.

[Nicole Kidman]

I was like, phew.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, this is during. This was after Baby Girl. This is after the scene after Covid

[Bowen Yang]

and the flu combo.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

They call it the baby Girl.

[Nicole Kidman]

I was in a good way because it was a mutant. It was finally, I was free.

[Bowen Yang]

Peace. Finally. It was like you were in Antarctica.

[Nicole Kidman]

I was free.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

I was free.

[Bowen Yang]

So that when it came back.

[Matt Rogers]

I am obsessed.

[Bowen Yang]

I can't now now knowing.

[Nicole Kidman]

And you want to know who smells the best ever? Rihanna.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, of course.

[Bowen Yang]

I've heard that.

[Nicole Kidman]

Actually, it's true.

[Bowen Yang]

Do you think it's that, like, she just has a scent that like.

[Matt Rogers]

Like.

[Bowen Yang]

Like a fragrance that she has?

[Nicole Kidman]

I don't know.

[Bowen Yang]

It's. It's something.

[Nicole Kidman]

We don't need to. We don't need to unravel it. Just know it's all true.

[Bowen Yang]

What does it smell like?

[Nicole Kidman]

It's intoxicating. I've heard this. It is like I will follow you around, and it is like, you smell so good.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my gosh.

[Matt Rogers]

I will follow you around. So you're saying I'm pepulipping.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Nepe Le Pew. In the most respectful way.

[Nicole Kidman]

But no, truly, she smells divine.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, by the way, I tell you,

[Nicole Kidman]

also really smelt divine.

[Bowen Yang]

I have my Looney Tunes characters on today.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes, we love Looney Tunes.

[Bowen Yang]

We love Looney Tunes.

[Nicole Kidman]

There's Coyote.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, there he is.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Now, don't you do Tweety Birds. Don't you do a little Quacka?

[Nicole Kidman]

There's Tweety Tweet.

[Matt Rogers]

All of them.

[Nicole Kidman]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

Honestly, I want I knew to whip this out at the right moment. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Something is happening. You were in a thrall right now about Rihanna. Tweety Birdie Bird smells in general.

[Bowen Yang]

The legendary ladies of our time.

[Nicole Kidman]

I'm sensory.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. I'm so Happy I remembered to key them in. This is a cute mock.

[Matt Rogers]

It's very good.

[Bowen Yang]

Anyways, so good.

[Nicole Kidman]

Listen, this has falafels, Tweety Bird, Rihanna.

[Bowen Yang]

The Rihanna. We covered it all. Diarrhea.

[Nicole Kidman]

That's why I didn't like it.

[Matt Rogers]

You see? Of course.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Nicole Kidman]

The smell. It's all about the smell.

[Bowen Yang]

It's been a shivery, delicious episode.

[Nicole Kidman]

Fabulous.

[Bowen Yang]

Fabulous doesn't even begin to cut it. We want to just say thank you so much for coming here.

[Nicole Kidman]

Thanks for having me.

[Matt Rogers]

Everything Scarpetta is out now.

[Bowen Yang]

You can. You can stream it the hell away, like, in one binge. That's what Nicole is saying to me.

[Nicole Kidman]

And watch Jamie Lee Curtis and I got fisticuffs. We come to. We. We physically fight in it.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I'm so happy.

[Nicole Kidman]

We literally fight.

[Matt Rogers]

And utes.

[Bowen Yang]

You are sister fight.

[Nicole Kidman]

But, like, come to blows.

[Matt Rogers]

You're two. I'm going to say rambunctious people. And just to see that it's going to be good is worth the price.

[Nicole Kidman]

I hope so. I hope so.

[Bowen Yang]

And Marco's got money troubles.

[Nicole Kidman]

Me.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Nicole Kidman]

I've produced that.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, yes, yes. On its way.

[Nicole Kidman]

Yes. With L. And the darling Michelle.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my God. We didn't even talk about the beguiles. We didn't talk about the beguiles. Bring me the axe.

[Matt Rogers]

Bring me the. No, no. Bring me the.

[Bowen Yang]

No, Bring me the anatomy book.

[Matt Rogers]

The anatomy book.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, start the episode.

[Nicole Kidman]

Sophia.

[Bowen Yang]

No. The best person's like, we gotta go. She's gotta Scarpetta. But on the next episode, it will be all about the beguiled and bringing in.

[Nicole Kidman]

You gotta ask me back anytime. And you gotta have Laura Reese and I back.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, no, please don't throw. All right, we end every episode with the song Come One May. We're both you in. Come one may. You were really you in there? I will love you until my dying

[Matt Rogers]

day.

[Bowen Yang]

We love that throaty belt Ewan. Let's get Nicole out. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Las Coldristas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts,

[Bowen Yang]

created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Decca Ramos, edited and

[Matt Rogers]

mixed by Doug Boehm.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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