"Tangent Zone" (w/ Jinkx Monsoon)

Summary

Las Culturistas: "Tangent Zone" (w/ Jinkx Monsoon)

Podcast: Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Episode: "Tangent Zone" (w/ Jinkx Monsoon)
Date: September 24, 2025

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Overview

In this vibrant, freewheeling episode, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang welcome the always-iconic Jinkx Monsoon for a deep dive into queer visibility, Broadway, awards season, neurodiversity, and the formative cultural touchstones that shape their art. The trio navigates tangents galore ("Tangent Zone" lives up to its name), riffing on everything from egg aversions and awards show etiquette to the nuanced craft of playing "drunk" on stage and being true to queer voices in a shifting entertainment world. The episode is celebratory, candid, occasionally unfiltered—and packed with signature Las Culturistas energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Star Culture, Queer Visibility, and Awards Season

• Return of "Star Behavior": The hosts observe a resurgence of bold, unapologetic behavior among artists, contrasting today's "walking on eggshells" to the chaotic revelry of Old Hollywood (02:26–03:06).
  • "Stars are back. Star behavior is back. Hit the vape." – Matt Rogers (02:32)
• Awards Shout-outs and Queer Triumphs: The group celebrates recent Emmy and Tony wins by openly queer friends and colleagues: Hannah Einbinder, Jeff Hiller, Cola Scola, J. Harrison Ghee, and more.
  • "Honestly, the winners were so fantastic this year." – Bowen Yang (03:51)
• Community Over Competition: Jinkx and the hosts discuss how, with less scarcity of roles for queer performers, it's now possible to truly celebrate each other rather than compete for one spot.
  • "The ability to celebrate one another keeps growing. Because we pull each other in—recommending each other for roles, tearing down those stigmas." – Jinkx Monsoon (13:54)

Creating Their Own Platforms

• DIY Queer Artistry: Jinkx credits personal and communal success to taking initiative during times of scarcity: creating shows, self-producing, and bringing other queer performers along.
  • "When no one believed in us, we created our own stuff. You created this [podcast] when the roles were scarce. Cole created their own play… Now that scarcity is not a thing, it is so easy to celebrate each other." – Jinkx Monsoon (11:27, 13:52)
• Broadway Reflections: Jinkx remarks on the surreal experience of entering spaces she once admired, noting the importance of representation and history.

Neurodiversity & Performance

• ADHD as a Creative Asset: Jinkx shares how she channels her ADHD into roles, particularly her turn as Mary in O, Mary!—using her own mental state as an engine for improv and presence on stage.
  • "Two hours before showtime, please don't hit me up with something crucial... This is the first time I’ve ever been cognizant of going onstage with a clear head, then letting my ADHD be Mary’s ADHD." – Jinkx Monsoon (29:23)
• Vape and Routine: Jinkx addresses using vape to manage focus, dispelling notions it's a lack of seriousness.
  • "When I'm hitting my vape, it's not because I don't take my work seriously. It's because the vape fills in the cracks." – Jinkx (31:58)

The Craft of Acting: Voice, Gender, and Playing Drunk

• Exploring the Voice: Lively exchanges about "masking," using different voices for safety growing up, and the gender spectrum in their performances.
  • "I've never really been able to mask it. Matt certainly does." – Bowen Yang (18:41)
• Jinkx's Approach to Characters: She discusses building each character's unique voice, referencing previous roles and techniques honed over years in drag and theater.
  • "Every role I've played—I always start with: I don't like a character having my voice. I want to find, even if it sounds like my voice, the ways it's different." – Jinkx (27:09)
• Playing Drunk is an Art: The group delves into how truly difficult it is to act convincingly drunk, referencing both their own work and advice from acting school.
  • "A drunk person is trying to hide that fact. They're trying to focus." – Jinkx (55:29)

Death Becomes Her: Culture, Power, and Queer Legacy

• Formative Culture: For Jinkx, the movie "Death Becomes Her" is a major cultural touchstone: watched on repeat as a child, it shaped her understanding of power and camp.
• Deconstructing Power Dynamics: Jinkx studies every character's relationship to power, noting parallels between queer experience, historical women’s struggles, and roles like Madeline Ashton and Helen Sharp.
  • "People with immense power can either be benevolent or malevolent... I see how people with power behave, and it informs how I approach characters." – Jinkx (56:36–58:27)
• Drag as Cultural Preservation: Jinkx highlights how drag keeps queer cult classics alive—especially through performance, parody, and celebration in nightlife.

Broadway, Community, and Drag Race Impact

• Sisterhood & Support: Drag Race alumni—regardless of season—uplift and network in a way that transcends competition.
  • "Drag Race allotted so many of us a way into doing something we were damn sure we could do." – Jinkx (71:50)
• Range & Misconceptions: Jinkx discusses fears around being pigeonholed as a drag artist, and the importance of embracing what makes her unique.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Scarcity and Community

• "It used to be hard to watch roles go to other performers... because that was the only one that was gonna happen. But now that scarcity is not a thing, it's so easy to celebrate each other." – Jinkx (13:52)

On Neurodiversity on Stage

• "If I'm fully locked in and present with everyone on stage, then my ADHD is seeing every little thing. When people say I'm good at improv, it's because I keep my peripheral open as much as possible." – Jinkx (29:23)

On Pop Culture & Performance

• "Drag queens are the ones who keep it present in queer culture... we are the ones who every year deliver those costumes that make you remember those characters." – Jinkx (61:23)
• "Death Becomes Her is about two women who make things happen because things have happened to them." – Matt Rogers (61:05)

On Manners and Social Decency

• "I don't think so, honey. Where has everyone's manners gone? Because I am so serious... what happened to just common decency?" – Jinkx (91:16)

On Eggs (A Comedic High Point)

• "Eggs: what the fuck? Someone explain to me the egg of it all. It's a bunch of plasma and a yolk... dealing with them, eating them as the thing—I don't like." – Matt Rogers & Jinkx (83:38 and after)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Queer Success at Awards / "Star Behavior" Returns: 02:26–05:27
• Broadway: O, Mary! and Drag Race Triumphs: 05:36–13:52
• Scarcity & Queer Community Building: 11:27, 13:52
• ADHD & Acting Process: 29:23–33:02
• Playing Drunk on Stage / Revisiting Death Becomes Her: 35:38–58:27
• Drag & Cultural Transmission: 61:23–64:36
• Egg Rant: 83:38–87:50
• I Don't Think So, Honey (Manners): 91:16–92:47
• Discussion of MADtv Reunion / Closing: 95:23–96:37

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Final Segment: "I Don't Think So, Honey"

• Bowen: Develops a sudden late-in-life makeup allergy.
  • "Itchy itchy boo boo, I don't think so honey." (81:10)
• Matt: Eggs and the agony of eggshells.
• Jinkx: The disappearance of manners and common decency.

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Conclusion

This episode is a joyous, candid, and insightful celebration of queer culture and the creative process, featuring some of Broadway and drag’s brightest. Whether riffing about pop culture or unpacking the deeper realities of queer visibility, Jinkx, Matt, and Bowen’s rapport transforms every tangent into essential listening for anyone passionate about LGBTQ+ community, performance, and what it means to make culture—and live it boldly.

Transcript

[Jinkx Monsoon]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

What?

[Bowen Yang]

A Casamigos Margarita.

[Matt Rogers]

Everyone loves a Casamigos margarita. She really is that girl.

[Bowen Yang]

It's true. Everyone can get behind her.

[Matt Rogers]

She's a little tangy, she's a little sweet, she's good.

[Bowen Yang]

Any which way anything goes with my Casamigos.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's rule of culture number 87. Cause anything goes with my Casamigos.

[Bowen Yang]

Please drink responsibly. Imported by Casamigos Spirits Co. White Plains, N.Y. casamigos Tequila 40% alcohol by volume.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I mean if you want to get into some touchscreen technology, how about the smart charging case? Clear sound? These are not standard things. You're only going to get them with the JBL Tour Pro 3, baby.

[Matt Rogers]

And I love the sound of JBL when it goes. These earbuds are packed with innovation because you can't stand out by following others.

[Bowen Yang]

Touchscreen Smart charging case for one touch control, instant EQ customization, true adaptive noise canceling and the one of a kind audio transmitter which can plug and play with everything from game consoles to in flight entertainment. What more could you want first? Doesn't follow. Grab a [e-mail] look man there. Oh I see my, oh my Bowen, look over there.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Is that culture, yes. Goodness, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Las Culturistas, Ding dong.

[Bowen Yang]

Las Culturistas calling as our guest takes a massive hit of the vape. I'm jealous, to be quite honest.

[Matt Rogers]

Stars are back. Star behavior is back. Hit the vape.

[Bowen Yang]

Expand on that.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It's just weed.

[Bowen Yang]

No, we know it's just weed. We love it doesn't matter.

[Matt Rogers]

This is the thing. Back in the day, like, let's say at the Chateau, there would be signs. I'm saying in the 70s, there'd be signs at the Doors that were like, no actors.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, the revelry.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, people in showbiz were never moral paragons.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

And now it's like, okay, we all gotta, like, behave and like, everyone walking.

[Bowen Yang]

A street line and walking.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

That's what you say.

[Bowen Yang]

No smoking inside.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm sick of eggshells.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm so fucking hard. They're hard to scoop out of the egg.

[Matt Rogers]

When you crack the egg, give me.

[Bowen Yang]

The yolk straight away. And you know when I'm coming, You know. Cause I call in advance, I make a reservation.

[Matt Rogers]

This is my own thing. So, honey, later, it's gonna be egg forward, period.

[Bowen Yang]

We just high five. For those who can't watch us and are listening to this, like, it's still just a podcast.

[Matt Rogers]

It's tv.

[Bowen Yang]

It's tv.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a TV show. We're on the idiot Bo.

[Bowen Yang]

Hey, speaking of tv, the Emmys. I just want to say some shout outs. Hannah Einbinder. We're proud of you, baby. Every single bit of it.

[Matt Rogers]

Every moment rocks. Hannah Einbinder, we love you. Gene Smart.

[Bowen Yang]

Cristin Miliotti. Oh, it happens.

[Matt Rogers]

Aaron Doherty. Adolescence Love.

[Bowen Yang]

Owen Cooper. Adolescence.

[Matt Rogers]

Owen Cooper. Adele Tramell.

[Bowen Yang]

Honestly, the winners were so fantastic this year, and surprisingly. And we'll save the best for last and say Jeff Hiller. God, what I said to Beau, I was like, what did that feel like? In the room, quickly tell them.

[Matt Rogers]

Rapturous, Euphoric. Volcanic, I would say. I erupted from the corona of my crown chakra.

[Bowen Yang]

As a. I erupted from the corona of my crown chakra.

[Matt Rogers]

Corona, crown. I'm being redundant and repeating words, essentially, but you know what I mean? Like, I connected with.

[Bowen Yang]

That's like a Lord lyric. It's like a lyric by the singer Lorde.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, you're saying Lorde is redundant.

[Bowen Yang]

Erupted from the crown of my corona chakra. Anyway, loved, loved, loved. Get him next year, girl.

[Matt Rogers]

Girl, Never. I'm Susan Lucci until I die.

[Bowen Yang]

I think that's really chic for you.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I love it.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, nothing better. I Get to go to the little parties.

[Bowen Yang]

Go to these little parties.

[Matt Rogers]

Fun. Oh, wait, I have to shout out.

[Bowen Yang]

Go ahead.

[Matt Rogers]

Brittany Snow, Mollen Aukerman, Katie Lowes, Rebecca Cotter, all the hunting wives. Everyone involved in Hunting Wives because they were the belles of the ball. Everyone turned to gawk and say, wow, look at them. They are television peak, television multi. And I want to say someone dropped out during the broadcast from presenting. They pulled in Britney and Marin during the show because Celeste and I sat in front of them. They were like, I guess we're presenting. So chill. So matter of fact, about so professional. They were like, yeah, we don't know what the copy is yet. They did not find out the copy until 10 minutes before. And I would say one of the highlights of the night.

[Bowen Yang]

Sorry, it took me a long time, so I had. This is brilliant to hear. And I just want to say I had a night full of highlights the other night because I went to go for, I think, my fifth time.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

To the Broadway production. Oh, Mary.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my fifth, too. To see our guests.

[Bowen Yang]

Because it's kind of at the point now where it's like every time they announce even. Even I get, like, a whiff of a casting rumor, and then it comes to be. I'm like, well, I guess I'm going again. And it's never a hardship. It's always a hard. It's always a hard me. Rock hard in the seats for comedy and more.

[Matt Rogers]

When they post the daguerreotype of whatever actor in the curls, in the bratty curls, as Cola Scola puts it, I go, I guess I'm buying.

[Bowen Yang]

Can I say, this is the year where we've got Cola Scola with a Tony, Jeff Hiller with an Emmy, and.

[Matt Rogers]

Jamel Tillman with an Emmy, currently our.

[Bowen Yang]

Guest on the board and become a Broadway fixture. And so deservedly so. I can't think of anything more. Right. Also, since we've last seen our guests, she has won RuPaul's Drag Race all Winners, All Stars, which. What was the title they gave?

[Matt Rogers]

7 all winners, but it was called.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, Superstar of the Queendom or whatever. You know, they're always coming up with these long titles, honorifics, if you will. It is a true joy, as always, to sort of. And let me hit that. Am I allowed?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Yeah, of course, honey.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm out. I trust you.

[Bowen Yang]

There's trust here.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You're on Alda, I'm on prep.

[Bowen Yang]

So because our guest is on prep, we can share this.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And that's a part of everything I need to Talk about today.

[Matt Rogers]

This or prep?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Prep.

[Matt Rogers]

This is gonna be the most Prepped Forward episode we've ever had.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, that's on you.

[Bowen Yang]

We should have been way more Prepped forward. Well, that's good. Is that medical?

[Matt Rogers]

Sure.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I mean, I use it medicinally. I got it from a legal dispensary.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, yeah, I have to wait for you to finish. Welcome to yours.

[Bowen Yang]

Jake's Monsoon. We got a little carried away there, but we figured we give you time to make.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I wanted to interject.

[Bowen Yang]

Interject now, please, through all of that.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, first of all, I wanted to name drop constantly because you said Hannah.

[Bowen Yang]

Go ahead.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Mind Binder, who was a guest judge on All Stars 7. Gene Smart, who I have yet to meet, like, face to face, but I performed for her at the Tonys with the Pirates.

[Bowen Yang]

The Pirates? Those from Penzance.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh, my God, I said it wrong. After Penzance.

[Matt Rogers]

How do you say it?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Penzance. And I've watched press people say Penzance.

[Matt Rogers]

Pinzens, the Z that throws them off, these prince people.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You know, that might be the one symptom I still feel from weed. Cause, like, what I was gonna say is I'm so, like, I seem pretty functional to you right now. I'm on so many other things that negate the weed, but the weed is just, like, patching in the cracks.

[Bowen Yang]

I understand.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

That's how I feel about LK Jean Smart. She was in Call Me Izzy. Call Me Izzy recently on Broadway, across the street from. From my building. So sometimes I would be getting out of my car and she'd be doing her stage door, and I'd get to just, like, look over, and there's Jean Smart. Right? And when that wasn't happening, then I had her giant poster just outside my window. So fabulous. Life has become really genie. Life's become very surreal, and I've just had to embrace it. Because if I sit around commenting on how surreal it is, I'll be one of those people who's like, oh, my God, this is so amazing. Rather than shut up. Enjoy it then.

[Matt Rogers]

This is the new normal.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I've been trying to practice talking less. I'm not doing very.

[Bowen Yang]

Why we invited you to a podcast.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Because I dominate everything anyway.

[Bowen Yang]

That's not true.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Because I don't want to be content. Well, I'm what they call a bossy bottom. Right? Anyway, who's they?

[Bowen Yang]

Who are they?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Called the general public Queerdom. Jeff Hiller recently came to see O Mary. Of course, Michael Urie was also nominated. And of course, of course I Was rooting for my castmate. That's what you do, Harrison. Also, Jeff is a friend, and they are friends with each other. And so, you know, when he came to see the show and Michael and him were hugging and the three of us were hugging and congratulating each other on kicking off lot of ass as very queer people, unapologetically. So I think the last thing I said to them before I departed that night was, now one of you go win that Emmy so a straight guy doesn't get it or something. I like that. I didn't really know who the rest of the nominees are because I'm completely unplugged from current culture by choice. Anyway, you got it. You were nominated.

[Bowen Yang]

He was in the very category.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

So I'm. Well, see, we have the odds, and.

[Matt Rogers]

I wasn't in that.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And that's what I want to talk about. About, like, us kicking ass, you know, I'm so. Please do you forgive me? I'm so sorry. I didn't know.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, no, no, no, please. It's something I couldn't care less about.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But that the same applies to you. If you had been there, I would have said, now, one of you.

[Matt Rogers]

I was in that hustle.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Were you there that night?

[Matt Rogers]

I was in the. No, not. Not that night. Not the same night.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh, my God. Because it's all in the blender at this point.

[Matt Rogers]

I know, but that category, I didn't even realize this until after the fact. Everyone made a little lovely moment out of the boxes when they announced the three of us leaping for Jeff, which was me and Colman and Michael. And I was like, oh, right. It's because this was, for the first time in a long time in not any awards show, but in a long since I can remember, a mostly gay Guy Group category. 4 out of 7.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It's an astounding thing to witness. It's like so many things all at once. And I was talking to you about this when you came to see O Mary, that there was a scarcity in this industry for us. The visibly, unapologetically queer, like, couldn't try to hide it if we wanted to. So why, like, waste my life trying to play characters that aren't right for me when I know what's right for me, right? And I can keep pulling this thread. But basically, if you look at YouTube with this podcast that's become a TV show, right? And you look at Cola Scola, who wrote O Mary, and you look at Michael and Jeff and all of these people succeeding, do you know why we're fucking succeeding right now. Because when no one believed in us, we created our own stuff. You know, you created this when the roles were scarce. Cole created their own play to create more roles for people like us. And look at the roster since, you know, and then it's just. It's this amazing thing. And I was telling Matt, like, when there was the scarcity, it didn't matter what the role was. If there was any role that wasn't, like, in the box, we were all going for it. It didn't matter if you were a drag queen or a trans woman or a gay guy or, you know, it was like, the role's queer, so we all have to find a way to go for it. And then we're all kind of like, oh, I hope you get it. No, I hope you get it. But we're all actually. You know, it was hard. It used to be hard to watch roles go to other performers not because you don't want it for them, but because you're like, well, there goes that role this year. That's the only one that's gonna happen. But. But now that. That scarcity is not a thing, as I was saying to Matt the other night, it is so easy to celebrate each other. Yeah. You know, like. And I learned all of this from creating the Jinx and De La Holiday show, which is my thing that we created. Right. So if you look at all these queer artists that are blowing up right now, we've all been doing this for 20 years or something. You know, I don't know how old you are, but we're probably the same age.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, 16 years.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

L. Exactly. So it's like. Exactly. It didn't happen overnight. But the ability to celebrate one another only just keeps. Because then we pull each other in. Rather than fighting with each other, rather than competing, we all pull each other in and then recommend each other for roles because we have worked at tearing down those stigmas.

[Bowen Yang]

And you also get, I think, better at what you do and funnier when you're surrounded by people who you're inspired by and have things in common with, as opposed to pushing those things away. Just every single time community has been, you can draw a direct line to why something succeeded, how something got better.

[Matt Rogers]

I think that's why we were also happy for Jeff, because Jeff was this true, like, an actual leader in.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

In.

[Matt Rogers]

In terms of, like, comedy gaze or theater gaze. If, like, it was him teaching at UCB or being in the mainstage casts that we all went to go see the shows, he inspires Josh Arpenier and Jackson to then come together. Whatever. They have a model for this. They put their show up, then we all go see their show and go hang out at Barracuda Rest in Peace afterwards. And it was like us and Cole and Julio and all of the New York comedy queers just hanging out. And then we always say that was the beginning of actual New York queer comedy.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, and also, for what it's worth, we were also watching you on Doll.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

You were on TV at that point.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Literally, this is happening. Like, you just described your New York queer comedy community in the drag world.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You know, Alaska had Drag the musical off Broadway. Her and I were. Her and I and Cole and Tommy Dorfman were all nominated for this acting award with a bunch of muckety mucks. And my friend's mom, Mia. I like saying that. I do it as much as I can. My friend's mom, rona, you know, Ms. Mia. You know Mia. Anyway, it was incredible to look around.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

At that function, the Drama League Awards, and see all the big people who are having a really big moment on Broadway. See lifers in the biz.

[Bowen Yang]

Lifers.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

See, like, people who are household names. I mean, Nick Jonas was sitting right behind me looking down my dress, I'm sure.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You know, there was touching. I mentioned Mia Farrow. It was like. And to even be able to look over my shoulder and see Mia Farrow just sitting there and she. Politely. Because she's my friend's mom, you know, and she's so incredibly kind. I love her so much. It's. I. They're. The Farrow family are like chosen family to me. So it was incredible to see those faces and then see familiar faces. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Of course you're in the room because.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You were talking about your comedy family in New York. And I just keep thinking about when YouTube was a brand new website. That's how long I've been a fan of and Jeffrey self. Starting with just them, kind of like dominating short form as it was being born. So much so that a TV network logo picked them up. And then I watched every episode of Jeffrey and Cole Casserole. So it's like Cole being a huge sensation on Broadway and the ability to celebrate that truly and genuinely, it fuels me to keep going because I'm like, we gotta take this and run. Yeah, there's a place for it.

[Matt Rogers]

I was gonna say, like, the scarcity is not, like, fully in the past. If it keeps trying to push the.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Front lines out, then that's why we have to double down and again, what I'm saying is we created our own stuff, and it's authentic to who we are as performers. And when we get hired for things because they saw something in your podcast or something, whatever, you can connect the dots. But, like, when they hire you from your work that's authentically you, then you get to be authentically you in the work. They hire you.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. A hundred. Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Rather than having to show up at an audition and be like, hi, my name is.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

The voice. Was that.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Voice.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I don't really. I've never really been able to mask it. Matt certainly does.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, I was.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Can you remember?

[Bowen Yang]

Gets. You know what's crazy? It gets harder to slip into as I get older and bigger, I guess more comfortable. My, like, Long island accent and also my masculine thing. But it was kind of like this, I guess. I mean, to be quite honest with you.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Like, it was definitely like that immed. It adds the diddy, malady, the slurring.

[Bowen Yang]

What it needed to do. It did.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It's shorter vowels. You can't push your S's. It's. I think that's it. And the upper lip sort of, like, flex. It's like, I'm not. See, I don't even want to try it.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You don't have to. I'm just curious, you guys. I'm gonna do mine for you.

[Bowen Yang]

Go.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, like, back in college, if it was someone I felt safe around, I'd say, like, good morning. I'm just cleaning the room. But if it was someone I didn't know or didn't feel safe around, who.

[Matt Rogers]

Happened to be in your room while you were cleaning, and what would you say?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

No, I was the janitor at my college.

[Matt Rogers]

You were.

[Bowen Yang]

You actually were.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Please don't send me on a tnt.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm so sorry.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I'm so sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Rogers]

I thought you were doing, like, a. Oh, my God.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It was a bit. And it's true. I don't need to come up with fiction.

[Matt Rogers]

Anyway, good morning.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I'm cleaning your room.

[Matt Rogers]

As if someone.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And then say it was someone else. It probably would have sounded like, hey, just cleaning. You know, like, just trying to be. Cause when I tried to do a straight voice, it sounds like what I did jokingly, and it starts sounding funny. And then people are like, what is this? Cause, like, if I. I can pitch my voice very low, do you do.

[Bowen Yang]

The lowest you can do?

[Matt Rogers]

This would be the lowest I can do. But it's like, that coming out of me is like, what the.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I only learned how to do that.

[Matt Rogers]

Snatch Game is who that. Who is that? That sounds like.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Please.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. You're not going on stage.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Let's not pontificate that. But no, no, the point is, is like I learned that playing that cowardly lion in high school. But it's such a character.

[Bowen Yang]

That was your take on the Cowardly Lion?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh, well, I would slip into it when he would be.

[Matt Rogers]

When he would try to be brave.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Yeah, yeah. It was like my actual Cowardly lion voice was.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, Dorothy, really good.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh, no, really a dandy. I had a snagglepuss exit stage live. You forget that he was kind of giving bird Lara. I were king of the forest. But the thing is, it's not an attractive.

[Bowen Yang]

It doesn't.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It doesn't.

[Bowen Yang]

It's the cat.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It's what doesn't lend to what I. The roles I play.

[Matt Rogers]

These.

[Bowen Yang]

Right, these ingenues.

[Matt Rogers]

But I think you bring it. I think you are bringing a very, shall I say, like full spectrum of gender to marry. I think that's your unique take on Mary. It's like you're going like you're screaming like a fucking madman like that. Which like Cole didn't necessarily do. You know, Betty didn't do. Titus didn't do it.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

When I saw you do Mary a couple weeks ago I was like, Jinx is one of our preeminent screamers. I think you have to. You're screaming in such a considered way. And I imagine there's some vocal exercise or health that helps.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, I've been joking. This is my easy answer because if I try to give the real answer, then it's like a 10 minute conversation because I go on tangents. Anyway, the quick fun answer I say is, well, I worked as a drag Queen for over 20 years and I still do. So I've worked in every shitty venue and had to find a way to be heard in every crappy situation. And so I've learned a lot of different tricks. The true thing is every role I've played because I always like to start with like I don't like a character having my voice I want to find even if it Sounds like my voice. I want to find the. Like, the ways it's different.

[Matt Rogers]

What's Mary's voice?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Just a little more. Sorry, I have to, like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I'm putting you on the spot.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I can't drop into her.

[Matt Rogers]

No. Right, right, right. But just qualitatively, like, what do you think it is?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I think Mary's one of the closer to my actual voice. Over the years, I have picked up from every character different techniques. Like, I know I can pitch my voice that low because I played the Cowardly lion once, and I found that trick then, and I never lost it. And so all of my screaming is very particularly placed and pitched so that if I growl here, then I know I have to kind of, like, whisper yell here until I can get another drink of water, cough and clear my throat, and whatever I need to do to then growl again. So I plot a course. And that's what I do with rehearsal, is I get very technical about, okay.

[Matt Rogers]

My dresser has to be here backstage with a bottle of Essentia.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I come with my own.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm sorry.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I don't rely on people to just have my brand.

[Bowen Yang]

So you're carrying.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I'm carrying.

[Matt Rogers]

You're carrying.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But what was the thing? Oh, Mary. Well, she's, like, more white, and she goes a lot more nasal. Yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes. Probably helps.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

There's moments where she just. You know, like, she just is all. She's very erratic. It's just. With Mary, I've mentioned it a few times, but I like to clear my head of what's going on in my life as best I can. Everyone who works with me knows, like, two hours before showtime, please don't hit me up with something crucial that's gonna throw me off course. Because that is, like, when I'm listening to my playlist and I'm doing my makeup and I'm checking in with the cast and. And I'm getting into the mindset. And then this is the first time I've ever been cognizant of the fact that I go on stage with a clear head and then let my ADHD be Mary's adhd. And I realized, in retrospect, I was totally doing that with Ruth, too. But with Ruth, I was calling it her hearing problem. With Audrey, I was calling it her, like, nervousness around men. So I always have found a way to disguise it so that, like, if I'm fully locked in and present with everyone on stage, then my ADHD is seeing every little thing. And when people say I'm good at improv, it's because I keep my peripheral open as much as possible. And probably that came from having to walk down to the street as a queer person. 100%. And having. I think about that a lot, too now with my noise cancellation headphones in.

[Matt Rogers]

I stopped you on the street once because you had those headphones in and I had. You had to, like, real. I had to really get in your eyeline.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And it was amazing because I'm laser focused in Times Square. That's the way you have to be.

[Matt Rogers]

We stomp. We're stompers to our music on the street.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I guess it's the only way to get through it. You have to make a game of it. You have to do it like Mario Kart.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, 100%. I do think that those games did help. Walking the streets of New York. It's like, I see where I'm going. Like, I. Yeah, there's something. You're in a tunnel.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

The thing I feel is. So before being able to call it ADHD or whatever special acute thing is going on up here, ADHD is like, pretty much what it looks like. Right. Whatever's going on up here. When I thought my brain was broken, I wanted to suppress all of it because I just didn't want people thinking, what a freak, you know?

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

As soon as I started working with a psychiatrist and a therapist, and they helped me identify what I'm dealing with here. And I'm on. Like I said, I'm on medication that helps me with all my symptoms. And so I just want to say publicly, when I'm hitting my vape, it's not because I don't take my work seriously. It's because the vape help. It fills in the cracks. Like I said, If I have 10 thoughts going on, you limit them. It goes down to five. I think this tried to explain this kind of Z way, but, you know, like, that's another tangent, heavy tangent zone. There should be warning to anything.

[Bowen Yang]

But. Yeah, no, I mean, that's very interesting that that's. That's a truth.

[Matt Rogers]

Because I feel like there are roles that are complementary to that kind of thought. Like, that kind of attention to things that you have with your ADHD as you're on stage and as you're plugged into people. I think Mary is one of those roles, right.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Where it's like, absolutely. Because you could look at her and think she's a sociopath, and that's one way to play her. And that's. I mean, that's what I thought the first time I Saw it. But now that I've worked with her and had to empathize with her and had to get insight, trying to decode Cole's very, very perfectly written show, there's a reason why it works so well with so many different guests. Like, the writing is just incredible, and so there's a lot of material there to pick apart and figure out why she does what she does. And so I was like, well, sociopath's one way to go. But I always like to go, everything's genuine. Because that raises the stakes. Like, if the character isn't lying, and this whole time they secretly have a secret that negates everything they're doing on stage or whatever. I don't know. Whatever the internal monologue, I'm like, no, I want to make sure I'm committing to the truth of what's going on with this character. And Scott Ellis was talking a lot about that in Pirates. It's like, it's a farce, but for the characters, the stakes are life and death, and that's what makes it funny, is committing to that truth for them. So this was just kind of affirming something I was already kind of, like, figuring out for myself. And so anyway, that was a tangent, but I was like, sociopath means she's doing all of this just because she doesn't care, Right? But ADHD can mean she says it very loudly. I'm so bored. And I know that feeling. And Cole and I are both people who used to drink and don't anymore, right? So I'm like, okay, things are lining up. Things are lining up. I'm like, she's bored. Everything that happens gives her a new idea. She used to use alcohol to numb it down everyone. And then that pulls another thread. I'm like, okay, that's why she wants the alcohol so bad. It's not necessarily that. You know, it's like, don't you understand? It's the thing that you all want me to behave normal. And she believes that's the thing that's gonna help her behave normal. I've fucking been there.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But then the whole idea of, like, alcohol helping you feel normal is the tipping point is like, yeah, why fuck with that? Right? Because it's so easy to overdo it. And then you can't backpedal.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I wanna talk about playing drunk because, like, it's this thing that, like, seems a little bit trivial. It seems like all actors can do it. All comedians can do it. They can't.

[Bowen Yang]

It's hard.

[Matt Rogers]

It's very hard. And I feel like there's a feature in this show where you're talking about. There's a couple moments in the show where Mary is drunk. Like, one particular moment. But I feel like. And I haven't really gotten to talk to Cole about this, but I feel like they wrote the show as a way to make sense of their addiction in a way.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And I feel like I have to imagine. I mean, Mary is this erratic character that, like I said, the first time I saw it, I thought she was a sociopath. And then I spent some time with the material. And I'm sure if I had seen it a second time, I would have, like, unlocked it fast.

[Matt Rogers]

You saw just once before.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

With Cole, before getting the role. And then I stuck in a few more times. Anyway, the point being that I just felt like, she's not a sociopath. She's dealing with real things for her. And then I know that Cole said they wrote the role to share parts of themselves that they had previously never thought of putting on stage. Right. Knowing that. And I've been saying this a lot because people keep saying to me, which is the hugest compliment. Because, like I said, this is like a perfect play. It's incredibly written. It's incredibly structured. If you do the text analysis, this is like a tight, well constructed play. You can tell that people who really cared about it put a lot of work into it.

[Bowen Yang]

It's got one of the best monologues, too, in the Great Day. Monologue is, I think, one of the greats.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I think I had a different point. But it's great material to work with, so it's easy to find all of this stuff. And I keep saying, oh, Cole and I have lived parallel lives. Right. I've been saying this a lot. Cole, not necessarily a drag queen, but has played many drag roles or roles where Cole was, you know, gender bending, if we're still even calling it that these days. I'm like. I'm thinking, like, it was just Cole being Cole. Right? Like, you know, Cole. It's like Bernadette Peters. Cole.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I couldn't call that drag, because it was just one wig and some lipstick. It wasn't drag. It was like channeling.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And so I've thought this for a while. We met 13 years ago. Cole and I colonoscopy. Cole and I in Australia. That was the first time we met. But I had been a lifelong fan. And so me and Cole and Jeffrey run into each other. Cause we're all on comedy tours in Australia. And I started. I was like, you're on a comedy tour in Australia. I'm on a comedy. Like, oh, my gosh. I started to feel like these people that inspired me to be so queer in my work because they were making it work for themselves. Am I, like, kind of catching up with them? You know, it was this moment of like, are we all kind of doing the same thing?

[Bowen Yang]

You're orbiting each other, right? Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You know the feeling 100%. And then it's like. And then as it became more normal to know them, it was just kind of like, oh, we do the same thing in different ways. And thinking of that, it's like the hugest compliment when people say, it feels like this role was written for you. And I'm like, it wasn't. It was written for Cole. It just happens to be so well written and so true to life that anyone who has lived a similar life or can easily, like, transpose what Mary's going through onto their life. Like I was easily able to do because we live these parallel lives. It's like, no, it wasn't written for me. But you can see why people say it, right? Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think clearly it's speaking to both of your lives in this fascinating way. And I also was thinking about the Great Day monologue as actually an anxious thought. You know what I mean? That whole monologue is actually one big ADHD tunnel that you can get through about. It's literally her racing towards something before it's even had the chance to be. Because she's so. And it panics her. And, like, what I love about that moment is, like, the opportunity it gives the audience to realize they care. Like, it's. Cause you may not have actually even realized that that's your last in the lab.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You know, I kept saying I thought she was a sociopath. That's probably the point in the show where I go, she's not a sociopath. Her circumstances are dire.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And then I think about, now that I've spent so much time with the material, her circumstances are life and death. And it's in no uncertain terms. It's not like interpreting it. Her circumstances are life and death.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And I just relate to Mary so much, but I know so many people do. And again, that's a credit to the writing, a credit to the direction. But I was gonna. I almost didn't wanna share this. Cause I'm like, am I really gonna give away this secret to my performance? Give it while I'm still in the run. But you only have, like, a week left. Oh, okay. The great day monologue for those in the know. For me, my great day is literally playing Marion Broadway.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, that's.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It's that easy. And I was like, I bet Cole was thinking that too when they wrote this. And I'm like, Cole didn't know this was gonna be on Broadway when they wrote this. They just wrote something so true to what it feels like when you were born to do this and you have known it your whole, like, I'm talking whole life. Like, as long as I've known that I was trans and a redhead, I've also known I was an actor, a performer, a singer, et al.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, you have, you have six great days and one of them's a great matinee day. Two of them are sometimes.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh, two days.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm saying if your great day is playing Mary, then you have like so many great days.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Call it Double Soup Tuesday at the orphanarium. If you watch Futurama, you get it. You make me feel like Double Soup Tuesday at the orphanarium.

[Bowen Yang]

That would be my day to day.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

With Double Soup Tuesday. Every day's Double Soup Tuesday.

[Bowen Yang]

I had soup today, actually.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh my God. When I play Mary, every day is Double Soup Tuesday.

[Bowen Yang]

I love that.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

I'll tell you, it's prayer. You're the first person in Las Culturistas history that we have asked this question twice of Jinx Monsoon. What was the culture that made you.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Say culture was the film Death Becomes me. Did I say this the last time?

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, I don't think you did.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Thank gods. Because that's the dramaturgy I did. Okay, I can literally. I've been thinking about why it made me.

[Bowen Yang]

What is striking right now?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, one huge factor is that because I'm realizing this was a very cool rule of my mother. I was allowed to watch basically anything without gratuitous sex or like raunchy nudity as long as I watched it with her so I could ask questions and she could put it into context.

[Matt Rogers]

Very smart.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Very smart and cool. Because her and I, our thing together was to watch horror movies together. Cause we love horror movies. Anyway, but so Death becomes her with. Is called like a horror comedy, right? A dark comedy. You watch it now and it's like, that's not that dark. You know, I saw Dix the musical.

[Matt Rogers]

You sick and that's darker.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

God was a faggot.

[Bowen Yang]

So dark. Dark sided.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You sick mother. So anyway, my mom rented Death Becomes her and I realized a huge factor was because of where my birthday lies. Instead of starting at age 4 in kindergarten and turning 5 two weeks later, they decided to keep me at home another year because my mom had just been in this horrible car accident. The car exploded on us while we were in the car.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh my God.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And all the steam burnt up my mom's legs. So she decided for us to stay home together for a year. We were living with my grandmother and that meant we spent a lot of time watching movies together. And she'd make semi regular trips to the movie store, the movie rental place.

[Bowen Yang]

The Blockbuster if you will, for the vhs.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And I'd request Death becomes her every time. And then I'd just watch it on a loop. So when I tell you. And I watched it again last night in preparation for today. I have never tested it, so I don't wanna make this hyperbolic statement that I can't back up. But I'm fairly certain I could say every line.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow, I believe you.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I could do it with the movie, definitely. But I'm fairly certain I could just do it from memory.

[Matt Rogers]

Could you do.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But I don't wanna be certain about that because there's all those interstitial scenes that don't include Meryl or Goldie.

[Matt Rogers]

Not putting you on a.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Or Isabella. You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

But I'm saying, even though you should, while the musical is concurrently on Broadway, you should stage a one person jinx. Monsoon does the movie word for word of death becomes her.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Listen, if I had capacity for anything else. You do at this point, I mean, that sounds like a great plan for next year. And next year is this Christmas.

[Bowen Yang]

We wanna see it.

[Matt Rogers]

We wanna see it. But you love.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

That's the Jinx and Dela holiday show.

[Bowen Yang]

Just open up for yourselves.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, I say every line. Dela lip syncs it playing every character. It's a two person. I say every line live from memory. And she lip syncs live to me speaking live to a lovely line.

[Matt Rogers]

Simultaneous vote. Not tracks from the movie, not any audio from the movie.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But I'm underscoring which is available on Spotify because it's on many of my playlists.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I do love that. It's funny. You think you're going to the jinx and death becomes her. To see one of you play Goldie and one of you, you play Marilyn. The gag is that it's just you speaking and her lip syncing.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

So we both are the entire movie.

[Matt Rogers]

Exactly.

[Bowen Yang]

Exactly. In this way you both get to live out both.

[Matt Rogers]

Perfect.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And speaking of the musical. Amazing. I can't stop listening to the music.

[Bowen Yang]

He just recently saw us out.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I gotta say, I told this directly to Megan. Sorry, Megan Hilton. Yeah, of course. I. You know, Jen and Megan and Michelle.

[Bowen Yang]

They were also watching the girls. The girls child, Destiny's Child.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Telling my kids this.

[Bowen Yang]

Meg from Destiny's Child. From Destiny's Child. Jennifer Simard. Imagine the Beyonce super bowl, but with them popping out. Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my gosh, they would be amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

They would tear.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I saw the show. I was thoroughly entertained from.

[Matt Rogers]

We saw the same answer that with Jennifer, right? Yes, yes, yes. Andrea Gershon and Gina Gershon.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I'm so glad I'm in good company to name drops so fervently.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so you went to go see the show.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I said to Megan, didn't get a chance to say it to Jen, but Jen and I have a special relationship. I'll talk about that next. But I said to Megan, you and Jen and really Michelle, all three of them, like, delivering incredible drag performances.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You know, like. And it's just really inspiring to see the doors I have opened.

[Bowen Yang]

Honestly, for.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Them to drag on Broadway.

[Bowen Yang]

You created the type.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

They were able to do drag on Broadway.

[Matt Rogers]

They were.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Paul Tazbel was able to design Broadway.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, he did, though.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Three years ago, those months off, I.

[Bowen Yang]

Told you, by the time we know, you weren't with us.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But I thought of that joke while I was brushing my teeth, so I.

[Bowen Yang]

So you had to get it out.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You had it for you. And if I didn't do it, I would have been so pissed and I would have been anxiety texting you afterward. Jen Simard and I presented together at the Drama Desk Awards. Different from the Drama League Awards.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah, There's a Drama League.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I got them in the. Right. Yeah, I was Drama League. Nick Barish was Drama Desk. So anyway, I'm presenting with Jen. We're both very feminine redheads. I made the joke while we're presenting. Cause she was wearing a low cut dress.

[Matt Rogers]

Amazing boobs.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Sorry, I mean, yeah, I mean, like.

[Bowen Yang]

They'Re out of Jessamar.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

That's the thing is, like, if you're gonna wear, it's probably because, you know, you have incredible tits.

[Bowen Yang]

Flauntable assets.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Flauntable assets. If you got it, flaunt it. Right.

[Matt Rogers]

So you're presenting.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

We're standing next to each other, kind of looking a little like each other, except some key differences, right. And so I said, I feel like we're standing at opposite ends of a feminine spectrum. And she said, but both redheads. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, so now every time I see her, she does this thing that I absolutely adore. And I hope saying it publicly doesn't mean she stops doing it. Cause I hate when that happens. You know, when I tell someone I like something, they do, and then the next day they stop doing it because they feel insecure of this thing.

[Bowen Yang]

I should never stop.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I was actually giving them their flowers on. Anyway. She just goes, that's my friend. Jinx. That's my friend. That's my friend. That's my friend. And then she comes over to me and we take a picture and she goes, that's my friend. And I think it's very cute. I just fucking love it. They're all so incredible. I've been singing along to the soundtrack. And Chris Seber, oh, he's so good at it.

[Matt Rogers]

He's incredible. Christopher Catelli, amazing direction.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

The character of Stefan and The actor's name is escaping me right now because I haven't been on Instagram in. So I haven't seen his name recently. But so good. Like, what a great way to flesh out a throwaway character from the movie. You know what I mean?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, 100%.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, you love Death Becomes her so much that. And I know this ties back to what you were saying in the beginning. You were making things when there weren't opportunities given. I mean, fresh off the Drag Race event in season five, you do this documentary called Drag Becomes Her. And I think. I think there is this spiritual importance to this film that you have in you.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Beyond the performances and the looks and.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

The cosmetics, I feel like I learned every. Okay, so part of my dramaturgy of this, I'm like, trying to make it all make sense of why it made me. So one big thing I do with my characters these days is I, you know, I start with finding their voice, but I also start with finding their relationship to power, because I see how people with immense power behave. And it was something we talked about in acting school. And the best advice about playing drunk, I got in acting school. I went to Cornish College of the Arts in Seattle, Washington. Hal Ryder said to me, the mistake young actors make about playing drunk is going like, oh, I'm drunk.

[Matt Rogers]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

A drunk person tries to hide that fight. Yeah, they're trying to focus, you know? You know what I mean? Anyway. Oh, God damn.

[Bowen Yang]

Relationship to power.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Power. Relationship to power. People who have a lot of power can either be benevolent or malevolent. You know, they can either abuse it or can be generous with it. And that's a spectrum. Right then I've spent a lot of time doing pieces set in specific time periods where women had limited agency. And I've been thinking about that a lot as a trans woman in this time period and how there is something spiritual right now for me, I feel it very deeply as a witch, that helping tell the disenfranchisement story. Helping talk about these women who probably have bad reputations. Yes. Or I don't know that the real Mary Todd, she has a freckled reputation, let's say. But, you know, I'm like, some of these women that seem so extreme. I'm thinking Judy Garland, Right. We know how and why she passed away at a very early age. And then I try to. Since I spent so much time with her, I tried to think of, like, you know, what she was dealing with, the context of her life being completely disenfranchised and having almost no agency in your life. And then you are a household name that has to, like, convince people to hire you because you promise you'll be on your best behavior. You know, like, that duality in a person, to know you have that inside, but you also have this inside.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. And for everyone to know you have it too. And that gives them even more power, because they know they can. You are the one that they're controlling.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Exactly. And so I was thinking today about Madeline Ashton and Helen Sharp and their relationship to power. And they both believe that their power is derived from their sex appeal.

[Matt Rogers]

Because there's a man in the mix.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Because there's a man in the mix. Yeah. Right. Like, Helen has found her dream man, and she believes. You know, she says, I need to see you could pass the Madeline Ashton test. Like, that's the final test before we get married. Because if you meet her after we get married and you can't pass the test, it will break me. I just know it will, because it almost has every other time it's happened. Right. So when Madeline is able to steal him away, she's like, of course. Because she's sexier than I am. And then she gives up on her life, and then she finds a way to sex appeal, which is gonna give her the power to get back at someone like Madeline Ashton, who, even though was a friend, has a lot of protection around her. Right. She calculates this whole freaking plan. Madeline Ashton is dealing with the fact that as a woman in Hollywood, her youth and her beauty are her power. That's her power. So it's also sex appeal. But it's like Helen's need for the potion is completely different from Madeline's, but they are both because of their extreme circumstances. And those extreme circumstances, like you've already mentioned, were because of and because they're women at that time. So I just lined it up with my own life, and that's what gives it the spiritual meaning. I'm like, yeah, that's perfect. As long as I'm helping tell those stories authentically and helping you care for the character that at first glance seems that's a crazy person. Right. But then when you really listen to her and really empathize with her, and if you can get your audience to do that, then they realize this is just a woman under extreme circumstances. And then hopefully, hopefully, that sinks in. Whoever they are, whether they needed to hear it or whether they already knew it, it's either a beautiful affirmation or it's a lesson that I Swear to God, I hope they got. You know.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, it's all about, like. And this is something you probably experienced in your own life, where it's like, what is my locus of control? Like, do I make things happen or do things happen to me? And Death Becomes her is about two women who, like, make things happen because things have happened to them. Does that make sense? I know we're a little stoned, but it's like, that's.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

No, I mean, I have never been more lucid. No, it's like with. Death Becomes Her. I thought about this today when I'm telling you, I prepared. This is what I mean. Death Becomes Her. It's like drag queens keep things alive that are important to us. And queer people do, too, you know? But, like, drag queens are the ones that, like, keep it present in the queer culture. We are the ones who every year, deliver those costumes that make you remember those characters. Or we do the drag parody version, or we do drag numbers inspired by When Madeline Ashton Falls down the Stairs, which I saw at a nightclub that had a long. You could either wait. They could either hit the music when you made your way to the stage. Like, you could quietly, discreetly make your way to the stage and then hop up and hit the music. Or because they had a follow spot, you could start at the top of the staircase.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like if you actually ate shit and fell down the stairs while that.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Luckily I never did because I always started at the top of the staircase. I'd be like, the dress is Chanel. The shoes wears. Like, walking down the stairs, it was like, it's a. I see me, you know, like, it was a chance to do that, right? And so I think it was there. I think I saw. I hope it was there. And I didn't tell that whole thing for no reason, but I hope the drag queen hears the story, Whoever or wherever she was. She did a number where it was, like. Started with her at the top of the stairs doing, like, I see me. Or maybe she didn't do that number. Whatever. She's doing a number at the top of the stairs in, like, the blue costume and then fakes falling down the stairs. There's, like, sound covering it and stuff. The follow spot is, like, looking for her at the bottom of the stairs. She rips off the blue costume, and now she's got the tits on back. You see that the tits are on her back and she's got the costume on backward. And that the neck's all twisted. And then I don't remember what the number was. But she performed a number. But it doesn't matter what the number was, because as long as it was the perfect number, it's like, how fucking brilliant is that? So we keep these things alive for each other. And now that we are having this moment where we are culture makers, you know, we are culture aficionados. I mean, your award show, I was seeing the pictures from it, and I was having.

[Matt Rogers]

What do you think of the pictures, Jake?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

No, I was at probably the worst FOMO of my life, you know, not because I wanted to be nominated, but because I was like, look, first of all, look at all my friends. And then second of all, look at all those, like, fucking muckety mucks. It's just like the Drama League award luncheon.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like, can you believe army of Pharaoh was Goldblum?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Can you believe that you are again, that you get to be in a room where you look at someone, whomever, and then you look over and you see. Well, that was one of your friends.

[Bowen Yang]

Best parts of watching it, I think. Cause for the cuts to the audience. The cuts to the audience were the best because it was like, oh, my God, there's our friend Bianca. And then there's, you know, Sarah Michelle Geller. And it was. It was just. It was a real treat for just us and also our friends. Like, as the. As those circles get bigger, as you know, so many people were involved in it. And I was like, wow, this is like a very personal experience that we're having watching this. Cause it's people that we love intimately and there's people that we love, like.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Externally, all sorts of experience. Like I said, life is surreal. But I don't want to waste too much time commenting on it. I want to just really fucking enjoy it. It's like, you know, when you take a party drug, you know, you have so many hours on that drug. If you spend the whole time going, am I acting weird? Am I acting weird? Am I acting weird? That's what I'm trying to say. Especially with the whole surreal thing. Like, if every. You saw me, you were like, hey, Jinx, how are you? And I was like, ugh, life is. Oh. Oh, my gosh.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I can't believe how many famous people I meet every day. If that's how. That's not what I want to be. I want to be plugged into it. And then if it comes up naturally in a story, I'll fucking drop the name, of course. But I don't want to start the conversation there. I want a conversation to happen naturally because I'm looking the person in the eyes and actually having the conversation.

[Matt Rogers]

You don't want to be perpetually reflective because then you're not actually experiencing anything new. And that's it.

[Bowen Yang]

Sometimes I just look down at my glass and I say, I love this. I'm in the present. I love the shape.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Is that your Meisner? Is that your Meisner?

[Bowen Yang]

Is that technically Meisner?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It's like.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it's like you have a cup.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I have a guess.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I have a cup. And it's.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

This is a cup.

[Bowen Yang]

This could hold so much, the possibility of this cup. I sometimes want to go back. Not back, I. But I think it would be interesting to go for, like, two or three weeks to, like, an acting school and, like, get on the ground and eat the lemon.

[Matt Rogers]

I think they have that.

[Bowen Yang]

I probably could do it, huh?

[Matt Rogers]

I think we both should. I could use the classes.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, it would just be like. Because there were all those tales they would tell back at nyu, like. Like, people that were in, like, theater. Theater school, and, like, they'd be rolling on the ground.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I saw that character you did on YouTube and the UCB where he wrote. What was your work? Worst villain.

[Bowen Yang]

Batman villain.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Could have just been.

[Bowen Yang]

That was the worst actors.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Actor, you know, it was amazing. Why does no one ever bring up your Batman villain character from the UCB archive on YouTube?

[Bowen Yang]

Well, you know what? It's just.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I thought when it was fresh, that's Midge.

[Bowen Yang]

But when it was going on, that. That was such a part of, like, we had a different iteration of our lives, and that was what I was doing. I was doing character work all the time. It's just from a phase of my life that was never this. So no one ever really knows or engaged with that. And it's funny. It's relevant, I think, to the conversation is it's like when someone knows you as something a lot or doesn't know you as one thing, that's like a. That's something you have to break through.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And then also, like, you know, you. You two. And I think of Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson. I mentioned I love that movie. Did I mention I love that movie?

[Bowen Yang]

You did.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You did.

[Matt Rogers]

You said it was dark.

[Bowen Yang]

You said it was dark.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh, I was being snipey for comedy, but it's actually. I'll tell you the same thing I told the boys. I love that. No, you. I'll tell you the same thing. We went to dinner sometime after I. I'd watched the movie a couple times, and I said I need to tell you I love the film. However, I had to come to that decision only because my anxiety around the idea of the whole slippery slope argument.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, oh.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And then I really thought about it and I really thought about it and I was like, that's their fear, not mine. I know that that's not real. How come straight men can make the most disgusting, vile, horrible jokes, but if it's, you know, normalized, then we just go, ha, ha, ha ha. Men being men or boys being boys? And I thought they weren't making movies like that anymore. And I'm like, oh, no. I just stopped seeing them. The beautiful thing I love is the movie is satirical. And it's like showing you. Do you see how ridiculous you're being? That's like, to me, it's like. Like this is the most ridiculous thing you can imagine. Let's show em. Let's show em what that actually looks like.

[Matt Rogers]

There's no slippery slope. We're off the mountain. It's like we're calling. We're saying God is a faggot. It's like it's. We're singing the most.

[Bowen Yang]

The craziest. It's a wonderful song and it's a great song and you wanna sing it afterwards.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And I started saying to myself, it's like, why do Trey Parker and Matt Stone get to make their shitty commentary? And no matter what they say, it's like, it's satire. It's satire. And so they can be as transphobic as they want. It's satire. It's satire. Don't get offended. It's satire. And I was like, well, thank the gods that we are at this point. Now that queer people are, one, there's not the scarcity. Two, we don't have to be a singular archetype of character. We can. I described it as like, when I played Doctor who villain. It's like, I'm so glad I'm here. In this era, queer people are back to being villains.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, I love that.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Because it was when we realized that queer people being villains was a mockery, you know, of our characteristics and that stopped being a thing. Well, now we're back to queer people being actors in mainstream things. That's not so crazy. So we can be villains again anyway. And then you and the boys have a mutual connection in ucb. And it reminds me that, like, Drag Race is this sisterhood where we don't even have to be on the same season, but those of us, like I said, the Familiar faces, I could list them, but there's so many drag queens doing things that I think 20 years ago when I started drag, I thought, that's surely not possible. When I started in college and gave up drag, briefly, seasonally, and told myself I had to give up drag to be a serious actor, that was a lie. I told myself, by the way. It was protective or something. Yeah, yeah. I was just scared that if I got labeled as a drag queen, that was an end of the versatility of my acting. Then I eventually made the decision, you know, like, yeah, they warn you about being pigeonholed and they warn you, like, do you just want to be a character actor? Do you want to have the ability to do everything? And I'm like, well, I. I know I have the ability to do everything, but I also know I'm one hell of a character actor. So if I put that foot forward, at least I'm guaranteeing work. And I worked a lot straight out of college and I did a lot of classical work. That was stuff that, like, that's a drag queen playing Mistress Quickly in Henry V. And half the people didn't know it was a drag queen, you know, so I've always been doing what I do. Um, it's just like I found my way in and drag and Drag Race has allotted so many of us a way into doing something we were damn sure we could do.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Like Bob the Drag Queen says it, like, why she auditioned. She said she was. She's a stand up comedian and a brilliant actor and lots of things. Right. Bob is an incredible human whom I love and lots of things. Has lots of partners for all the things.

[Bowen Yang]

Many different versions.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

No, I'm teasing. But the many shades of Bob the Drag Queen. No, it's just like. Again with a tangent.

[Bowen Yang]

She needed the platform to get those opportunities.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Yeah, yeah. I saw Drag Race and I said I could do that. But she also knew she could do a lot of other things. Doing that thing with Rue says it all the time. Like, if God. And I'd say if the goddesses or if the universe or if whatever opens a fucking pathway, take it. And if you know you have other things in you, you'll find a way to redirect yourself back there. Even if it's just a hobby. You know, there's some people who have hobbies that have not with their work, and they love that. My work is my lifestyle, so it's hard to. I mean, video games are my. That I guess video games and. Oh, you know what? And that's why I won't do like, I did Like I'll do like a limited. Like I'm gonna stream a video game for a charity or for whatever, you know, like.

[Matt Rogers]

But you're not gonna commodify it otherwise because.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Exactly. Because that's mine. And it has nothing to do with drag other than the fact that it inspires some of my looks. Well that's fine. That fil.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, 100%. Well, I hope you've taken notes. At home we will move into. I don't think so honey.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Here. Now is this how long the episode was supposed to be or did I go over.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, no. We're gonna end at 3:30 right when.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You that Because I'm so verbose and I always over talk. I kept identifying when it was a tangent because we started tangent zone because of the meds. I don't need to rehash. You can scroll back in the video 15:15:15. Because this is a TV TV show and you could just, you know, listen to the episode once more as I'm sure lots of you people do. Because I listen to the same things over and over and over because I find new new things to it every time.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Is it the spacious interior that's comfy for the whole crew or the capability to go off road?

[Matt Rogers]

It could be. Or maybe it's up to 600 plus miles of range. What it's all that and more.

[Bowen Yang]

The Hyundai Palisade defies everything you thought you knew an SUV to be with more style and capability. It's something new entirely.

[Matt Rogers]

It has class leading interior space with purposeful tech. Available front row and second row relaxation seats.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Also available 8 track all wheel drive so you can be ready to go anywhere in style. It also includes standard 100 watt USB C ports, available Bose 14 speaker audio and standard passenger talk driver intercom.

[Matt Rogers]

The all new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid is more than just another suv. It's still the Palisade but with so much more.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

You know, a good wedding is like an amazing symphony. From the food to the music to the fashion, honey to the style.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, when it all comes together, all these things, you can expect love to grow. And that's good because the wedding should all be about that. Creating an atmosphere and an environment where love can. What's the word? Flourish.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

The first earbuds on the market with a touchscreen case which allows you to control your audio without reaching for your phone. They also have a touchscreen smart charging case for one touch control.

[Matt Rogers]

I love being able to touch my buds and control the volume. Feels amazing on the skin with a.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

They've got a next gen smart charging case for a seamless listening experience. Leave your phone in your pocket. The smart charging case has all the features you need to fully control and customize your listening experience and the earbud settings in multiple languages right from the case.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

I'm going to do my I don't think sony about something new in my life which is frustrating. This is our 62nd segment we take to rant and rave rail wreck things in culture that need to be all those things. So here we go I you have something? Yeah, I have something.

[Matt Rogers]

This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many of his time starts now I don't think so.

[Bowen Yang]

Honey that you can develop new allergies if I my entire haven't had a thing I don't want the thing at 35 suddenly what a random age for you to attack me goddess or mother nature whoever. What I'm talking about is the fact that I sometimes have to put a little makeup on for our jobs and I think that I around my eyes you can see I've developed some sort of contact dermatitis rosacea and more around my eyes it's suddenly I have a skin allergy I gotta go hypo I guess they're saying words to me like hypoallergenic and I have always loved and them saying do you have any allergies? And saying no suddenly you're gonna throw this barricade in front of me and I'm gonna have to leap over it like the hurdle would and I don't want to hurdle I want to sit on the side and enjoy my life of not this rash I don't think so honey. I guess I have more time huh? Itchy itchy boo boo I don't think so honey.

[Matt Rogers]

Itchy itchy boo boo that's one minute.

[Bowen Yang]

I all of a sudden like it'll be the day after two days my face will break Out. Suddenly I have, like, sensitive skin.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Why?

[Matt Rogers]

No, because our immune systems are trash.

[Bowen Yang]

I hate that transition.

[Matt Rogers]

I. What? What do you mean?

[Bowen Yang]

Our immune systems? They do get worse, don't they?

[Matt Rogers]

It's out of our hands. I don't know why we haven't evolved out of, you know, makeup.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, you're probably right.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm saying. But I don't know.

[Bowen Yang]

Do we need to psychologically and like, emotionally and spiritually evolve out of makeup?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I mean, but mostly physiologically, like, evolve out of makeup. Because otherwise. Because it's just the allergy that's.

[Bowen Yang]

You're right. You're right. Exactly. Okay. And either would work. We could physiologically age out. But we need. We do like to have it for play. But. Yeah, no, for some reason, like, it's just. It's been happening and I guess I gotta see my derm.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I think the answer to why late in life, at first I was. Had to respect that it was your time. Because.

[Bowen Yang]

Cause I wanted to be like, tell me all now.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Like, no, just my own thoughts. Not like I have any real information. Just I think about this.

[Bowen Yang]

But why do you think they happen?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Well, because there's so many things being put in our stuff that we have no fucking idea. I mean, you know, we're having the microplastics conversation. I don't even wanna pull up this thread. Because then people weaponize it, that idea, which is true, but then skew it.

[Bowen Yang]

To be something else.

[Matt Rogers]

To be something else.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I don't even need to list.

[Bowen Yang]

No, we all know examples.

[Matt Rogers]

I know that I have a PS5 controller in my brain. That's the amount of microplastics that I have.

[Bowen Yang]

You think that it's. Yeah. They say that the amount of microplastics in all of our brains is like. Yeah. It's like it's solid matter. If they really want to put it together, it's cool.

[Matt Rogers]

I have at least quadrupled that based on the microwave meals that I eat for pleasure.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh.

[Matt Rogers]

When I am stoned and I'm gonna go home and eat my michelinas.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah. Do you ever have a microwave lasagna?

[Matt Rogers]

All the time. My Stouffer's. And I've been cutting back ever since the microplastics conversation has moved in this. No, I'm. No, I'm glad we're talking about this.

[Bowen Yang]

Come out of the closet.

[Matt Rogers]

I have another food thing and that's my own. I don't think so, honey.

[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

[Matt Rogers]

I Don't think so, honey. Eggs.

[Bowen Yang]

What the fuck?

[Matt Rogers]

What are you. Someone explain to me the egg of it all. It's a bunch of plasma and a yolk. And there's a film around that where if you crack the egg, the membrane of the egg is the thing that makes it hard. So that if you have shards of egg in your container in which you are trying to whisk the egg, it is virtually impossible to take out to extract a shard of eggshell, another piece of eggshell, to scoop it out. But then that runs the risk of more eggshell going into the fucking thing that you go, no, I guess I'll try my luck with a spoon, a chopstick, but then, no, it is always. It is never worth it.

[Bowen Yang]

15 seconds.

[Matt Rogers]

This morning I've been practicing my one hand egg crack because guess what? I turn myself on. That's right. I get off to myself when I crack an egg with one hand. And then I looked like a damn fool eating a shard filled omelette while I could have been having something actually normal.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Don't eat meat only eat.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't go animal based, only plant based.

[Bowen Yang]

That's what it is. I didn't know you.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, don't eat.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I could not agree with you.

[Matt Rogers]

Sit down. No, but that doesn't deserve a standing oj.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Yes, it does. Because I have spent my whole life having to experience, explain to people the.

[Matt Rogers]

Egg, the, the shark, the shell.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

No, it's just like, first of all, yes, you are correct on all of that. But the standing ovation was just to find another person who had that many complaints.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm with you.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Eggs. Because they are such a popular food. The way you scoff.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, because I had them today.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Right, okay. That's what I've dealt with my whole life is everyone likes eggs.

[Matt Rogers]

Everyone loves eggs.

[Bowen Yang]

They love them.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And do, do I like things where eggs are an ingredient? Of course. But eggs, dealing with them, eating them as the thing I don't like.

[Bowen Yang]

It is horrible what they start as.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Also dealing with them, but I just don't. I don't like the flavor, I don't like the texture. There's so many ways to prepare them. I've tried them all. Don't like them.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't like them.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I don't like eggs. But then I say that and then people think I'm vegan. So then I have to go on this whole fucking thing. And if they don'. Then I go, I don't like eggs. And they go, you don't like eggs? Have you tried them scrambled? Have you tried them fried? And then I'm like, oh, my God, please, not again with the eggs. So most of the time, when people. And then it's like, you don't like eggs. Are you vegan? And I'm like, yeah, I'm vegan. Because I'm like, this will save time. And then the breakfast I am delivered is nothing because they didn't have anything. It's a piece of bread.

[Bowen Yang]

Again, it's so shocking whenever anyone thinks that just, like, a piece of bread is toast.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Yeah, it's sliced. A piece of bread is not toast.

[Bowen Yang]

It's rule of culture number six.

[Matt Rogers]

A piece of bread is not toast. The creativity that disappears when you say, I don't want an egg in my thing. Well, they go, oh, well, I guess we could do.

[Bowen Yang]

We don't have any tofu. It's like, why. I think it's because of the consistency.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I think, like, the egg itself. So anyway, I feel like you can like eggs themselves, but your ability to hate them that much at the same time, to hold that much capacity of hatred for eggs. I have finally found one other person who at least shares some kind of passion about that hatred.

[Bowen Yang]

I have a bad comedy idea for. For you guys. You and Jinx should sing Rihanna hate that. I love you so you know that one. But, like, with eggs in the back, this is like a bad comedy idea. You do it like Little Field in 2013.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But I.

[Bowen Yang]

Those were the days.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And I represent the hate. And Bowen represents the love.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And I feel like it's just a, like, 90s throwback. You guys would Ebony and Ivory tear.

[Matt Rogers]

At that with me with doing a duet with Jinx.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

A duet with. I do want to say this about the microplastics and the Michelinas. I always said Michelinas. Anyway.

[Bowen Yang]

Gasolina and Michelin together.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Michelina. I ate them in college.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. Delicious, Delicious.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Listen, though, you were in Wicked.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Those are like a dollar a pop. I'm sure they're like, what, five bucks a pop now? They were a dollar a pop in college. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

In the Miquelinas.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Are you saying he's. You could probably get a deal.

[Matt Rogers]

There's something about it.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

The point is you can get something. Something that is exactly like that, that might cost more, but it will be so much kinder to your body, and it'll satisfy all the same things. And I'm not even saying healthy. I'm not even saying healthy. You have reached this point in your career that if you want to get a take home take and bake lasagna. Or if you want to get something that you put in your oven. I know. You know what? You probably have the money to get one of those. What? Air fryers.

[Matt Rogers]

The number.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I mean, there's so many things you could really step up your game is all I'm saying. Unless what you need is the michelinas, in which case I totally get because I have a can of Dinty Moore beef stew for the very same reason. I don't eat beef anymore. But I know that there is gonna be a. I just once again need to taste Dinty Morpe stew. I used to do it on tour and Michelle Visage would say, starting your day with a little Dinty Moore there, huh? Because it would be 9am and I'd be eating beef stew.

[Matt Rogers]

The number of spaghetti oats was all off. Spaghetti Oaks in my pantry would freak out.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I get them once in a blue moon. I need spaghetti oaks Spire D. Beef.

[Matt Rogers]

Ravioli in a cake.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But that's not microwave. I make them on the stove.

[Matt Rogers]

They're still pl. But there's plastic in them. I'm sure it's not processed in the same plant.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

My high horse. You can't avoid it.

[Matt Rogers]

It's crazy. And it's my favorite food.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

There's some more. There's some plastic.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, listen, we can escape.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I'm sorry. I should have cleared it with you before.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, no, no. I feel like you're used to this because I'll tell you what was really good. Our reactions. So they'll cut them. No, they'll cut to us. Don't worry.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I just also got very self conscious that I might have not been tucked. But you know what I'm embracing. Thank you. Okay, Bo, you can. Don't bleep it. I want people to know that it's an anxiety I deal with.

[Bowen Yang]

Are you ready to do your. I don't think so, honey.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Hold on. Good.

[Matt Rogers]

Yep.

[Bowen Yang]

We have to make sure that we are clear.

[Matt Rogers]

Totally.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Are you ready now?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I hope so.

[Matt Rogers]

This is jinkx monsoons. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I don't think so, honey. Where has everyone's manners gone? Where the fuck have all your manners gone? Where have all your manners gone? Because I am so serious. I feel like if I try to empathize and if I try to figure out why no one has any manners anymore. And I think. And we all had to like, you know, socially isolate and, you know, you could. It was like, don't Say hi to your friends. So we took that on. But, like, manners. Like, it's not gonna kill you to leave. Hold the door open for two seconds. You know, it's not gonna kill you to not be a cunt to people while you walk down the street. You know what happened to, like, just common decency. Look up from your phone when you're having a conversation with people, you know? And while I'm clearing the air where it's like, condoms. What's that all about? I paid for the research. I donated my money to that cancer research fund. It's a moot point anyway. I have diaphragms now.

[Matt Rogers]

That's one minute. Whatever happened to good breeding and nice manner?

[Bowen Yang]

Nice manners and good breeding is hopefully both.

[Matt Rogers]

Hopefully both.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You know that I thought long and hard about everything we discussed today that I knew was on the docket. Right.

[Bowen Yang]

And you wanted to really give.

[Matt Rogers]

Thank you for sticking to this.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I really thought long and hard about that. And I'm like, is this gonna sound classist? Is this.

[Matt Rogers]

It's not about class.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It's literally common decency.

[Bowen Yang]

It's, don't slam the door behind me when you see me coming.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I don't think it's no small fault to our leader showing no class or decorum that now people feel like that's.

[Matt Rogers]

Out there's social malaise, and therefore everybody is, like, in their own little space.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And listen, in Times Square, I'm just trying to get through as quickly as possible. But I'm not being a cunt while I'm doing it. In fact, because I'm from the Pacific Northwest, I would rather go out into the street and walk around a crowded sidewalk. Maybe I do it in a huff if I'm late. I try not to be late because I. Anyway, but I'm so passive aggressive that I'd rather walk around the issue than say, excuse me, because I'm so scared it's gonna come out. Excuse me.

[Bowen Yang]

And in which case, you wouldn't be having the best. You'd be having good marriages.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Excuse me. Could you get five children wrangled so that I can get to my rehearsal?

[Bowen Yang]

Get your kids wrangled.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Want to say I'm a Broadway star, but that's what we're talking about here, and you're making me feel.

[Bowen Yang]

Feel it as you swiftly pass by.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

So anyway, I have a personal investment in people remembering to just be decent to one another for many, many reasons. One, because I'm a person and we're all just people. And, like, how the hell are you Gonna make life hell for everyone else. That's who you wanna be. You wanna add to the problem. You see a problem and you wanna add to it. You wanna press the door close button. I'm in a building where I have never seen so many people get on an elevator and press the door close button frantically, like in front of you as you're about.

[Matt Rogers]

As you get into their one time. That sucks.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

But mostly it's like I'm in. I hold the door open for them to then watch them go. I'm like, yeah, it brings out something animal pain. It's breaking my brain. Brain. Because I don't. I used to joke like, you know, people are like, how'd you get to be so polite? Or whatever. And I'm like, I just was raised right and I.

[Bowen Yang]

How'd you get to be so polite? That's such a beautiful thing.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

So sweet. How'd you get to be so sweet? As you're very nicely. Won't you tell me very kindly How'd you get to be so sweet? I could also do why Mad TV is a big part of culture that.

[Matt Rogers]

Made that we have to.

[Bowen Yang]

When I had.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

It was my goal to have all I had. Nicole Sullivan, Mo Collins, Stephanie. We've had Wilson.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, I'm saying like you need. You need to do this.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Let me tell you, I've. Oh, yeah. I would love to host a reunion the way Andy Cohen does with Housewives and just talk about him as drag him. You know, if there were any reason to do like a live. Hi, Jinx. Oh my God. I think you just. I think you just. Do I have to pay you now?

[Bowen Yang]

We can talk about producer stuff on air. We're going to say no, absolutely not. But then we're like really mean and sharp.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

I want to cut of that tour you do with the Mad TV women. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, no, no.

[Bowen Yang]

Nothing happens here.

[Matt Rogers]

Are we getting this?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

And he wouldn't. I want to produce it. I'm going to produce it myself.

[Bowen Yang]

We're all going to co produce.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

You want to be an angel donor? Of course.

[Bowen Yang]

Listen, Jinx is still in unmarried till the 20 damn 8th. We went at the time of our lives. But of course we did because you're fucking brilliant.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Oh, thank you. And you both are as well.

[Bowen Yang]

We love you dearly.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Thank you.

[Bowen Yang]

We end every episode, every single episode with a song. Do you know what's in my head? Do you want to have fun? Fun, fun.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

How's about a few laughs?

[Bowen Yang]

Laughs. I can show you a fun laughs.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

Good times. Fun laughs. Good times, fun, laughs, good times.

[Bowen Yang]

And then there's a bunch of stuff about what happens when you walk in the joint. You can find it online.

[Matt Rogers]

Las Coltristas is a Production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio Podcasts.

[Bowen Yang]

Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Becca Ramos, edited and.

[Matt Rogers]

Mixed by Doug Baines and our music.

[Bowen Yang]

Is by Henry Kabirsky. There's my at home voice and my podcast voice. My podcast voice is like a leveled up version of me. Kind of like the new Digiorno Wood style crust pizza with a leveled up crispy yet perfectly airy crust. Now that DiGiorno has new wood fired style crust pizzas, I might start doing the show from home. Digiorno is dropping a new crust in four topping varieties, Premium Pepperoni Supreme Speciale, Italian Meat Trio and four cheese. I'll have all four. You've never had pizza like this at home. It's restaurant quality pizza without all the other restaurant stuff. The new Digiorno Wood fired style crust pizza. It's not delivery, it's Digiorno. You can't spell Culturistas without R I.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

We're talking about the food Easters, the theater Easters, the nature Easters, the luxuriestas whatever you're in Easter for, you'll find it in the Ocean State.

[Matt Rogers]

So start packing those bags and be the best Easter you can be.

[Bowen Yang]

Rhode Island. All that.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Do you know what the perfect addition is to any party?

[Jinkx Monsoon]

What?

[Bowen Yang]

A Casamigos Margarita.

[Matt Rogers]

Everyone loves a Casamigos margarita. She really is that girl.

[Bowen Yang]

It's true. Everyone can get behind her.

[Matt Rogers]

She's a little tangy, little sweet. She's good. Any which way.

[Bowen Yang]

Anything goes with my casamigos.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's rule of culture number 87, cuz. Anything goes with my casamigos.

[Bowen Yang]

Please drink responsibly. Imported by Casamigo Spirits Company, White Plains, New York. Casamigo Stila. 40% alcohol by volume.

[Jinkx Monsoon]

This is an iHeart podcast.