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Jennifer Lopez
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Jennifer Lopez
Where?
Matt Rogers
Oh, I see my eye. Oh, my Bowen, look over there.
Bowen Yang
Wow.
Matt Rogers
Is that culture?
Jennifer Lopez
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Goodness.
Matt Rogers
Wow. Las culturistas.
Bowen Yang
Ding dong.
Matt Rogers
Las culturistas calling. We sort of gave dark vibes today for Spider Woman.
Bowen Yang
For spider Woman, I feel like I should say mw excited.
Matt Rogers
Misiento muy excited for our guests.
Jennifer Lopez
Hilarious.
Matt Rogers
It goes all the way back. This is a moment in Lost culture three because it's not every day we get a full blown, for real fucking icon in the seats.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, my God.
Bowen Yang
Kind of on one hand, honestly.
Matt Rogers
I mean, truly. I mean, there was a moment in the new film Kiss of the spider woman, which is great, and our guest is fantastic in it and we want to talk all about it, where she sort of looks over her shoulder in a bold red lip and smiles. And I was like. I was back, like, watching selena.
Bowen Yang
It was 97 all over again.
Matt Rogers
I was just like the countless times this person has brought joy continues to in all forms of media. An entertainer in every sense of the word. This has been always a J. Lo Stan podcast. And you guys know that. I think we gay.
Bowen Yang
I think I love you. Poppy was on the great global songbook.
Matt Rogers
I think it was on the great.
Bowen Yang
Global songbook we ranked the top 300 songs of all time.
Matt Rogers
I love your puppy.
Jennifer Lopez
That's right.
Bowen Yang
That's right.
Matt Rogers
We love I love your puppy. Come on, come on now, please, everyone, it's time to welcome into your ears Jennifer Lopez. Hello.
Jennifer Lopez
Hello. I don't think I had such an introduction.
Bowen Yang
Oh, maybe, maybe, you know, you like a frivolous time every now and then.
Jennifer Lopez
I love it. I love it. My whole life is a frivolous time. Exactly.
Bowen Yang
I feel like you get. You get thrown into, like, I'm sorry, these, like, rigid interviews where they. Where the people, like, don't know what to ask you.
Jennifer Lopez
It's true. And they. It's a little bit repetitive and everything, so. This will be fun. I think I was looking forward to this.
Matt Rogers
No, this is going to be fun because I have a question for you, which I don't think you get asked a lot. We have something in common. We were both high school track athletes.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, yes.
Matt Rogers
Okay. I want to know your.
Jennifer Lopez
Not just high school. I started a track when I was in. I want to say.
Matt Rogers
That'S early. Yeah. So you was running five or six years.
Jennifer Lopez
Fifth or sixth grade?
Matt Rogers
Yeah, seventh. I started.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. So what were your events?
Jennifer Lopez
I was at 800.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Tough.
Jennifer Lopez
1500 meter.
Matt Rogers
We did the same.
Jennifer Lopez
Did you really?
Matt Rogers
So I was a miler.
Jennifer Lopez
Me too.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Come on. Middle distance.
Jennifer Lopez
What Was your time?
Matt Rogers
436.
Jennifer Lopez
Mine was 450. 50. I think my best one ever was 4. 49.
Matt Rogers
So you were for real?
Jennifer Lopez
I was for real.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Well, of course you were.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. No, I thought that there was times in my life where I thought I would take the athlete. I loved tennis. I had, like, a great backhand. That was compared to, like, believe it or not, John Magaro right over the net. It was just like, sink on the. I don't know how I did it. It just was a natural thing. Sink on the other side. And so it was my tennis moment, and then I had my track moment and I went. You know, I did it for years and did that. And I was into softball, so I was like a athlete. I was like a little tomboy jock person.
Bowen Yang
Name one thing you haven't excelled at.
Jennifer Lopez
I mean, I sucked at basketball.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Jennifer Lopez
The finesse of it. I was more like a brute strength, 100% run stamina person. You know what I mean? It's a different. It's a different skill.
Bowen Yang
Totally. Totally.
Matt Rogers
Well, you've mentioned sports that are very passionate. You know what I mean? I feel like track is a very passionate.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. The glory.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Chariots of Fire.
Matt Rogers
Let's go.
Jennifer Lopez
I can hear it in my theme song.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, we used to. There was a couple of movies about Steve Prefontaine, like, who was at distance runner. Billy Crudup played a mobile movie. We'd watch it all the time. There's like.
Jennifer Lopez
Those movies are so inspiring.
Matt Rogers
Yes. And I feel like it's the keep.
Jennifer Lopez
On going factor of it.
Matt Rogers
All right.
Jennifer Lopez
You can't stop me. I will do it.
Matt Rogers
But then when did you.
Jennifer Lopez
I had that energy.
Matt Rogers
I was gonna ask. This feels like a broad question, but I feel like it is apropos it's like that passion, like, I feel like that's like a through line in your career. I feel like this movie, the Kiss of the Spider Woman, is such a passionate performance. You can feel it in all the lines that you dance and everything that you do.
Jennifer Lopez
Thank.
Matt Rogers
Reading about your athletic past, I was like, there's something about track, running and tennis, I was gonna say as well. It is very passionate.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
But have you always been a passionate person, even as a kid?
Jennifer Lopez
I think so. I think so. I think that's just something that you're born with. It's not something you kind of develop. You have a deep well of feeling. Right. And I feel like even when I had my first therapist, she was like, you feel very deeply. Wow. And I think it's an artist thing too. You know, it's like where I'm not. I'm not afraid of those emotions. I like the way they feel. It makes me, you know, feel alive, I guess, in a sense. And so I've always. Yeah. Been that way.
Bowen Yang
But was there, like, a precipice of you, like. Cause you were saying you had to, like, make the choice. I mean, did that feel like a commitment where you were like, I guess I'm gonna go down, like, this performer path.
Jennifer Lopez
I just loved singing and dancing and acting. I just loved it more. I loved it more.
Bowen Yang
You loved it more?
Jennifer Lopez
Loved it more than what was happening with the sports for me, which was great. I mean, I had a wall full of trophies and medals, and my parents would put them up. They were like, the whole wall, you know, every weekend I was going to a track and winning, and it was fun, but it didn't, like, it wasn't my passion. It didn't fulfill me. I was good at it. I think it was like, kind of a training ground for discipline for what I do here.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
At a certain point, like, I think people that don't have, like, you know, because you did have, like, a dramatic past, like, in terms of, like, high school. You did musicals and stuff.
Jennifer Lopez
I did.
Matt Rogers
I did, yeah. So that must have been a schedule, by the way, like, being a full athlete and doing the musicals.
Jennifer Lopez
By the time I got into high school, I was full arts.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Okay.
Matt Rogers
Okay, cool.
Jennifer Lopez
I had transitioned out.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, sure. Right.
Jennifer Lopez
By the time I was a freshman then I was like, I'm just. I'm just a theater girly. That's what I'm going to do.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. But the athletic past does prepare you for that 100%.
Jennifer Lopez
It actually gives you a leg up on everybody because you're a hard worker for the support, for the discipline of just like, I will work from now to then. It's not like, well, you know how wishy washy artists sometimes you kind of like, you know, do a thing where you're like, I'm so tired. I can't do this right now. That was never in my vocabulary. That was never me. Learn. Losers really need to sit down. No. No sitting down.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, there's no sitting down.
Bowen Yang
No sitting down.
Jennifer Lopez
Run another lap.
Matt Rogers
Yep.
Bowen Yang
When you hosted SNL when I was there, I feel like that was the thing. Not that it surprised me, but I was like, okay. Like, JLo's like, in this.
Jennifer Lopez
Like, yeah, she's a worker. She's a worker.
Bowen Yang
I mean, you and I were like, sitting next to each other just like in between, like, sketches. I was like, oh, yeah. Like, she's not going back to her dressing room. She's just like, she's a cure.
Jennifer Lopez
On set.
Bowen Yang
On set.
Jennifer Lopez
Once I get on set, I'm on set.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yep.
Jennifer Lopez
I get ready, I may come out 15, 20 minutes late, whatever, you know, whatever. But I do. Yeah, but I do.
Matt Rogers
But you come and you don't have to stop a lot.
Jennifer Lopez
We're going to make up the time.
Matt Rogers
Exactly. Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
We're going to get out early.
Matt Rogers
Yes. I get up early because y' all.
Jennifer Lopez
Early when you're younger, but when you get older, you're like, please get me home.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, let's go home. 100.
Bowen Yang
Give me my time back.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Because you guys did not have that much time to shoot this spider woman.
Jennifer Lopez
No, no. That was the one thing. Everybody's like, what was the most challenging thing about this? Or what was the hardest thing? It was the time we didn't have. You guys probably had a ton of time to do the wicked stuff. Like, you worked on it for two years, two movies, right? We just. It was so fast.
Bowen Yang
Like, what, six weeks?
Jennifer Lopez
It was four weeks of shooting for me. And then they shot another four weeks, I think the Prison Nothing side of it. And I had, you know, I started learning my songs the minute that I got the role right. I was just like, okay, I'm gonna learn all these songs. I'm gonna be ready. But we didn't really start rehearsing till a few weeks before. Diego was panicked. And so was. We were all panicked in a sense. And we just didn't have a lot of time. They didn't have a lot of time to create it, to do it, to do it. So it was crash course. Talk about being on the set. All the time or being in rehearsal all the time. It was just very challenging. Sometimes we would have to do, like, two musical numbers in a day.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Jennifer Lopez
One for six.
Matt Rogers
And these are intricate and big set pieces.
Jennifer Lopez
And you wanted to shoot them in one take.
Bowen Yang
Nope.
Jennifer Lopez
I want. I don't want to say this motherfucker, but this one. I don't know if you could say that on podcast.
Matt Rogers
We can say motherfucker on podcast.
Jennifer Lopez
This might be one of my first podcasts. So you have to. It's a morning.
Matt Rogers
Oh, my goodness, no. But we were so excited you were coming. You have to know, like, this is. And I said it brought me all the way back to Selena. And I feel like while you're here, we do have to talk about that. And specifically one thing. So this movie came out in 97 just to go all the way back.
Jennifer Lopez
Right.
Matt Rogers
So it would be a couple years before you, you know, had your debut pop album, which was on the six, which was one of the great debut pop albums. And, like, it's really changed pop music, you know, brought all that, like, Latin movement in you. Ricky, Enrique.
Jennifer Lopez
That was explosion. Yeah, yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I was thinking about Selina, and there's a scene where you're in the stadium, and it's like, it's a full packed stadium, and you turn around and you have a smile, and you hold the screen and the whole space, but yet you didn't have experience doing that at the time. And I think now when we watch the movie, we take for granted, oh, of course there's J. Lo in a stadium. We know the image of that. But at the time, that was not a thing that you had been accustomed to doing.
Jennifer Lopez
No, the only thing was the footage of Selena and watching her do it. And luckily, I had great footage of her. And when I tell you I studied this footage, I could tell you every step, every way her finger moved, her eyebrows, everything. I just was so focused on trying to get her right for everybody because she had passed away. And I was just. That scene. I know exactly what shot you're talking about, and I haven't seen the movie in years, but I remember it. It was the way she took in the audience of 70,000 people and selling the Astrodome and just like a little girl who had dreamt of this and whose father's dream. And there they were. And she was the first, I believe, Tejano artist to sell out the Houston Astrodome. 70,000 people.
Bowen Yang
That's a lot.
Jennifer Lopez
She was 23, you know, and it was a big, big deal. And she Just stood there and kind of looked around. I had to kind of put forth the feeling of everything that moment meant. Right, Right. For her, for her dad, for her family, for everything. Right. So it was a big moment, but it was definitely the. The footage that I had that helped me get there.
Bowen Yang
But how much of that was you studying the footage for accuracy? And how much of that was like, you, Jennifer, like, letting your soulfulness, your humanity, like, kind of like project on. Onto the screen, onto the camera? Like, that has to be. There has to be some of you in that you.
Jennifer Lopez
You can't help but stand there as yourself. Right. But as an actor, and I very much was in the actor mindset of doing that and not being myself. You can still get there. You can still have that happen. You can still feel those feelings and feel the magic. Because the 35,000 people had showed up as extras for that scene for her. They didn't know who the hell I was.
Matt Rogers
So that's what that was. They were there because they knew it was a Selena movie, and they knew.
Jennifer Lopez
It was a Selena movie. Come down to the Selena movie, and they had, you know, know, they CGI the rest of the. But 35,000 people just showed up for her movie after that. Yeah. You know, I'm sitting. Standing there, and I come in on the little horse and carriage and how she came in, and I. And I step up to the stage and the lights go off, and when the lights go off, they explode. I mean, I get. I get gooseies right now thinking about it. And they. And I had never felt that.
Matt Rogers
No.
Jennifer Lopez
But again, me, I would have fallen apart and be like, oh, my God, right. If I was Jennifer. But in that moment, she's a seasoned performer who has, you know, performed on many, many stages. And I just, with all of the composure of the world, did exactly what she did in that moment, which was take the stage as a superstar that she had become.
Bowen Yang
Wow. That's the discipline of you, like, running for.
Jennifer Lopez
Well, as an actor. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Right, Right.
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Jennifer Lopez
True.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
It's so shocking to me that Kiss of the Spider Woman is your first musical theater project.
Matt Rogers
Wild. Wild.
Bowen Yang
Because I feel like you've expressed that your influences have been like, Streisand or these, like MGM, 20th Century Fox, Columbia, old school movie musicals.
Jennifer Lopez
Rita Moreno.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, Rita Moreno. And like, you know, and like, the Bye Bye Birdie thing would have been so amazing.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
But I feel like this is the perfect thing for you. And what was that wish fulfillment like for you to, like, do it in this way, in this heightened way that felt cinematic and Technicolor and all that, you know?
Jennifer Lopez
It was amazing. When I read the script, I was blown away. I was like, oh, my God, it's happening.
Matt Rogers
This is happening right now.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes.
Matt Rogers
I'm getting the opportunity.
Jennifer Lopez
Okay, I'm gonna sing, I'm gonna dance, I'm gonna play the three characters. I'm gonna do. The cheetah didn't die. You know, it was like a pinch me moment, for sure. It was just so exciting. So exciting. And you're right. I had, you know, dreamt of doing this for years, But I'm a big believer in. And I've had to be. And if you're gonna have a long career, you have to come to peace with what's yours is yours, and nobody can take it away. But also, conversely, what's not for you is not for you. And you have to be. Understand, like, I really have seen it when I look at my career, because people make me talk about it. Do you know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
People make you talk about your career.
Jennifer Lopez
It's not like something I'm sitting at home. But when you talk about it, you go, wow, the things that came to me came to me when I was ready for them and not a second sooner. And you have to be at peace with that part of it because it's so easy in this business to go, this person is doing this and this person is doing that, and why don't I have this movie? And why didn't I get a chance at that? And a long time ago, I just decided, I'm on my own path here. I'm on My own trajectory, my own journey. I have a whole different thing than anybody else, and so does each person. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with how mine plays out because it has to do with how and what I need to grow and evolve as a person and as a human, not just as an artist.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Jennifer Lopez
And so that part of it I've been able to kind of really embrace.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
I also feel like something about you that I really love is that you always are thinking about how you're gonna entertain your audience.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, my God. I feel like it's all about them.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And. And when we get so many different kinds of projects from you and different forms of media, and I'm just thinking about how it almost calls back to, like, you have to make a choice between being an athlete and then being an artist. But it feels like with your career, you've said, you know what? I'm not really gonna make that choice. Like. Cause there was that run of, like, critical success in terms of film. And then you pivoted to a pop career, like, and you would think. Cause really people didn't do both. But you did both so well and sort of proved that you could. I mean, I believe first woman to have the number one box office movie and album at the same time. Like, these are big trailblazing moments that I guess you can't. You can't have if you're not thinking, like, I know this is gonna be a way that entertains people and I'm gonna be great.
Jennifer Lopez
You have to. That's the thing. It's like, there's so much noise. And now it's even worse with social media. There's so much noise of what people will tell you you can and can't do, or what you should do or what you do well or what you don't do well or. Or they need to do this or they need to go away, like all this stuff. But the truth is only really, you know, what feels right to you. And when I was acting and like you said, having like this critical acclaim in the beginning of my career with these movies and working with directors like Francis Ford Coppola and Oliver Stone and all these Soderbergh and all these people. And then I decided I wanted to do a pop. I wanted to do, you know, the Madonna, Janet Jackson thing, which is what also some of my idols growing up, people were like, are you fucking crazy? And I'm like, no, I just did the movie Selena and this is the one I want.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. So it was. It Was then.
Jennifer Lopez
Was that, like, the moment right after Selena? Yeah, it was right after Selena, and it didn't happen right away, but I. That's. That's where I started kind of heading. And it wasn't until Tommy Mottola came across a demo of mine that I did right after Selena that he was like, oh, let's get you in here. This girl actually can do this. And that's when it all happened.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
But the. The point is, is, like, you can only. You know, I knew that I could do it. I wanted to do it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
And so I did it, you know, and that was. And I didn't understand. No. And that's the beauty of being, like, young and ignorant a little bit, is that you don't know all the things that could go wrong, and so you kind of just go forth to conquer. And I knew. I didn't know how I would reconcile the movie career and the music career, but I knew I. I could do both, so why not do both, right?
Matt Rogers
Well, it almost feels like because they're with the pop career, like, you already were a household name, created Google Images and all. But, like, then the pop career sort of brings you this mainstream, like, sort of, you know, conversation that you're in with the audience, and I feel like that leads to you being in some of the defining romantic comedies of that time. Right. And for me, I was gonna ask about, like, the way you have such great chemistry with so many different kinds of leading men. Like, I don't think you get much more different than McConaughey and Ralph Fiennes. I know, but yet you. You as, like. You are, like, the thing that. I don't know, it's just.
Jennifer Lopez
I can fall in love with anybody.
Matt Rogers
But people want to think that's true.
Jennifer Lopez
That's the bad quote from here.
Matt Rogers
No, no, we're not taking that.
Jennifer Lopez
But, no, my point is, I feel that. I don't know if it's because I'm a romantic and I so believe in love. Even Kiss of the Spider Woman, for me, is only about love, is I'm able to kind of have that chemistry with people and with all different kinds of people, I'm able to kind of see through this and get to kind of like who the person is on the inside and really fall in love with that person for that moment between, like, you. Like they say, between, you know, action and cut. Right.
Bowen Yang
There's, like, a new kind of chemistry in this movie, though, where. Which I'm. I'm curious about what you think about this. There's A chemistry between you as the leading woman in the lead role and, like, a queer person who projects themselves onto you. And I feel like, love.
Jennifer Lopez
Like, this is my favorite thing.
Bowen Yang
Go ahead, like, Melina, turn it to you. Like, projecting themselves onto you. I was watching. I was like, I've been doing this with J. Lo my whole fucking life.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I've been like, I want to be, like, where she. You know, literally, like, I would like. I wonder if you feel like that is a new thing you haven't explored in this film. Like, that dynamic between, like, a gay man and a woman who is just shiny and bright.
Matt Rogers
The diva worship.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. You know, I. Of the three characters I play in Kiss of the Spider Woman, I play Ingrid Luna, who is that character, right? She is the actress that he idolizes, and she does a movie called Kiss of Spider Women that he shares with Valentin, his prison cellmate. And in that movie, he's saying, Ingrid Luna plays these two parts. She plays Kiss of the Spider Woman, and she plays Aurora. And he identifies very much with Aurora, but he identifies with all of them. And she is the powerhouse performer, Ingrid Luna, right? Who, like you said, he looks up to, and he wants to be like. And she's the perfect woman. And in this mom in particular, she's like this siren, and she's amazing and all of that. And it's funny because I identified most not with the Spider Woman, the Aurora, even though there were parts of me that I feel were very much like each of those characters. They're very different. But Ingrid Luna was the one that was most like me, right? Because she's the entertainer.
Bowen Yang
She's the vessel for all these different things.
Jennifer Lopez
She's the vessel for all these different things. And one of my favorite moments in the movie was doing where you are.
Bowen Yang
Oh, my God. It's so stunning.
Jennifer Lopez
So that's where I say to him, like, come with me. Let's escape together. Let's escape into this song. Let's escape into this movie. Let's escape into this world. Forget you're in a prison. Don't be where you are. Be with me. Let's go have fun. And I can't tell you how many times in my own life I have had someone come up to me and say, this song got me through this or this, you know, movie, made me dream and want to do what I'm doing today. And today I'm a set decorator or whatever it is, like, so many different stories. This one helped me get through my mom. She died when I was 12. And you became like my pseudo mom out there, you know? And the more I kind of keep going, they keep going. And when they see me fall down and they see me get back up. But what they don't realize and what I love about the movie and I love about that number where you are, is that he saves her, too, in that she goes, you know, she touches his face at the end. And it was very important to me. I was like, can he put his head on my shoulder, please, Bill? And can I just touch his face there? I know that there's a separation of, like, the movie and it's not real and all of that in the movie, but the movie within the movie. I said, but I really feel like I want to touch him. When I say, my sweetest fan, I said, because he does the same thing for her that she does for him, right?
Bowen Yang
He immortalizes her.
Jennifer Lopez
And. And I can't tell you that in the hardest times of my personal life, how my own fans and followers get me through. They get you through. They really do. Because you go, I can't let them down. I can't fall right now. I can't. I can get through this, and I can show them that I can get through this. And it is going to be okay. Not only is it gonna be okay, and I do this with my kids as well. It's like, I'm gonna get through. And I said this to my kids, we're gonna get through this and we're gonna be better, better, better. I'm gonna be stronger. And you're gonna see that, and you're gonna see that you can do it in your own life, too. But that relationship is such an important relationship and a real relationship in my life, even though we don't know each other personally, it's a real relationship.
Bowen Yang
I was gonna ask because I feel like you've withstood so many different forms of weird celebrity culture, right? Like tabloid shit, then the paparazzi peak and like the o. Now it' just the Internet, social media and social media. It's like, I was gonna ask you, like, how you maintain that humanity throughout that. Those different eras of celebrity culture. But I feel like you've answered it. Like it's the fans that get you through.
Jennifer Lopez
And it's all the same, right? Whether it was the tabloids or whether it's social media or whatever it is, or the normal media, any. Any of it. And people can be harsh and cruel. It was the same thing when I first started. And you get your first bad review or you get your first Thing you learn that it does not define you, that you know who you are. And the more I could put my feet on the ground and go, who am I? Who am I?
Matt Rogers
Yeah, right.
Jennifer Lopez
Do I know who I am? And it sets you on a search to really be in touch with yourself all the time. Because it's so easy to listen to and this is anybody. You don't have to be a celebrity for people to kind of say things about you. And you go, you know, and they destroy you. They destroy a side of you. You know, they hurt your ego, they hurt your mind. They live inside, rent free in your. All of those things, right? But the truth is, if you really know who you are and you stick to that and you stay close to that. I have a really try to have a really strong relationship with God and myself first before I can have it with anybody else. And this I've learned over years. It's not something I had figured out when I was younger, but when I was younger and I first started in the business, I used to say to myself, when I put my head down on the pillow at night, am I proud of who I am?
Matt Rogers
Right?
Jennifer Lopez
Am I proud of what I did today? Did I treat people well? Did I do my best? Was I kind? You know, and those things are the things that matter to me. And I can put my head down a pillow and say those things. So it doesn't matter what other people think or think they know or think they hear or doesn't. It doesn't really affect me in that way.
Bowen Yang
Because on the flip side of this, I think it's my favorite thing about your work is this thing that you do where it feels like there's this cultural amnesia around, like, what JLO can do. And it's like every, like every few years, it's like, oh, yeah, I forgot that she was an amazing dancer. I forgot that she. Or I forgot that she was so funny.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I forgot that she.
Bowen Yang
Oh, my God, she looks good in all these clothes.
Matt Rogers
Oh, my God.
Bowen Yang
I forgot that she's a good singer. It's like there's all these different, like, it's like you're re auditioning for, like, the audience all the time. It's because, like, they get lost in the sauce of, like, what people, what the chatter is. But meanwhile, you know that you can do all these things and you're just reminding people all the time.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, but I'm. It's not even that part of reminding them. It's. I keep doing what I love to do, no matter what yeah. I'm in the pursuit of kind of finding projects and things that excite me and just doing that and. And what I'm learning to do more of now is wait and not do all the things that excite me.
Matt Rogers
Gotcha.
Jennifer Lopez
Like, give me some.
Matt Rogers
What does that look like? Waiting.
Jennifer Lopez
It's a little. It's hard.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
But last year, when I had to cancel my tour and I took a whole year off, I finished Spider Woman last March, and I didn't start another movie till the following. This following March, I did Office Romance. And during that year, I literally just sat in, like, a rocking chair.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
You know, I was with my. Yeah, but I was with my kids. I really wanted them to feel me, and I didn't want to be away from them, and we reconnected in a way, because I've always been a working single mom for most of their life, and so it was so nice for them to have me there every single day for a year, which was so different for them and for me, but also for me, while they're at school and while they're doing whatever they're doing or they're away at camp or doing their things with their friends, it's just me by myself. And I got to really kind of feel good about. It's not ever going away.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, it's there.
Bowen Yang
You've done it.
Jennifer Lopez
Like, you.
Matt Rogers
You proved it.
Jennifer Lopez
You did it.
Matt Rogers
You did it.
Jennifer Lopez
And it made me realize, like, you have nothing to prove. You should just be doing shit you love when you want to do it, and you don't have to do all the things. But I was on the all the things program for a long time.
Matt Rogers
The all the Things program.
Bowen Yang
The all the Things program.
Jennifer Lopez
You know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
Yes, I.
Jennifer Lopez
It's like, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that. Because I loved it. And I was just. You're filling a hole. You realize that you're filling a hole in that way.
Bowen Yang
It's not even that. It's just that you were, again, like, raising these kids, and now they're, what, like, in their teens?
Jennifer Lopez
They're about to go into college next year, but, see, like, they're graduating this year.
Matt Rogers
Whoa. That's wild.
Bowen Yang
The twins.
Jennifer Lopez
It's crazy.
Bowen Yang
You're letting that go slow. Like, that's. That. That part of your life is fading out. Like, it's not fading out. Just motherhood is changing.
Jennifer Lopez
It's different.
Bowen Yang
And so then all these other things start to fall away, too.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
You know, Maybe that's it. It's not filling a void necessarily.
Jennifer Lopez
I mean, back in the day, I feel like it a little bit was. And now. And what I'm saying is, like, I've learned that I can. There can be times when I'm doing nothing and it's okay.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, I. It's important.
Jennifer Lopez
It's. It's actually. It's gonna make me better.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
It's actually when I do take on something that really excites me. Does this really. Now I do the thing where it's like I drive everybody crazy. So is this really exciting? I mean, it's going to take time away from the house and do I want to do that? No, I'm going to pass on that. I'm going to stay home.
Matt Rogers
I want to stay home. I want to pick out pillows online.
Bowen Yang
Totally.
Matt Rogers
No, you know what I mean? It's crazy.
Jennifer Lopez
The online shopping is a problem.
Matt Rogers
You know what the thing about retail therapy, it works.
Jennifer Lopez
It's. No, but it's just like I'll be here sitting in the rocking chair, thinking about life, dreaming about things, dreaming about the next thing and what it'll be like and you know, that type of thing.
Matt Rogers
Well, that's also a big part of the creative process too.
Bowen Yang
Absolutely.
Matt Rogers
Is the silence. I think, I believe it was Micaela Coel who, like, and when she won her Emmy, she gave the most beautiful speech. She was like, don't be afraid of the silence. Go to the silence. Because the silence is what's gonna tell you what the next thing is. And that thing that you hear in the silence might be scary, but don't be afraid.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Like to do this.
Bowen Yang
What room was the rocking chair in?
Jennifer Lopez
It's outside on my back porch. Faces the tree in the backyard and it's by a little fireplace. And I just sit there and look at the sky.
Matt Rogers
What kind of rocking chair? Is it vintage?
Jennifer Lopez
No, it's like an outdoor ride. It's vintagey looking. Yes, 100%. And I sit there with. It's very funny. It's a little bit granny. I sit there with a blanket on my lap. I put my feet up. I put my iPad over here in case I need to. Online shower.
Matt Rogers
Of course.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. And I just. And I just sit there and people call or they don't call a lot of times I'll listen to a book or I'll read a book or, you know, and then I'll think about that and I'll take notes on the book and. Yeah, it's just elevating my Consciousness.
Matt Rogers
You have to. That sounds so peaceful and great.
Jennifer Lopez
It's a fantastic thing. Get a little tea. There's a little tea moment. I like a pretty teacup.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
You know, just normal stuff.
Matt Rogers
Also, like even just the opportunity to be by yourself, period is great because like when you are you, I would imagine it's a lot of people. It's a lot of being handled. It's a lot of.
Jennifer Lopez
All the time. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And then, you know, to say nothing of like everyone out there in the world wanting to weigh in. It's just like a lot of physical people touching and moving and handling and stuff like that.
Jennifer Lopez
100%. I was just in the bath. I stopped to just go to the bathroom here. On the way in here, somebody comes in while I'm being. They're ready for you. I'm like, can I? Are you serious right now? I'll be right there.
Matt Rogers
We sent them in there. Get JLO out of here.
Jennifer Lopez
I'll be there in two seconds.
Matt Rogers
No, but I sometimes think about that. Like we obviously do shows and tour in a totally different way, but it is kind of interesting when it's excitement and then the silence.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Like just that.
Jennifer Lopez
You know, I love, I love that. I love the. You know, I was on tour this. I loved being on tour this summer and it was like stadium. And then it was like nothing.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
It was like, yay.
Matt Rogers
It's like a bath.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
It's yummy.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
Well, obviously you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.
Jennifer Lopez
True.
Matt Rogers
But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time. That's just brilliant time management.
Bowen Yang
Very true. This gives me an idea. Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready? First cruise dining. Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?
Matt Rogers
Curated dining. Next.
Bowen Yang
Okay. Good choice. That's what Virgin Voyages offers. Second question. Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations. Again, I think I see where this quiz is going. Virgin Voyages is amazing.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, absolutely. The cruises are kid free. From sunrise yoga to late night cocktails, every moment is made for grown up fun.
Matt Rogers
Nothing against kids. Kids are awesome. But sometimes it's nice to be kid free.
Bowen Yang
And there's so much included value. Over $1,000. Right.
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Bowen Yang
And you know what? I deserve luxury.
Matt Rogers
You do? And me too. Yes.
Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
And there are so many amazing stops. You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bimini. And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, like Aruba, St. Lucia and Curacao.
Matt Rogers
But it's not all go go, go, right?
Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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I think it's time to ask Jennifer Lopez the question.
Matt Rogers
Yes. Okay. So, Jennifer Lopez, we. I feel like we're getting a little hints as we talk.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
But this is the central question of our podcast, which is, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you, like, defining art or other. Other things in your life?
Jennifer Lopez
That I would have to say it was my mom showing me west side Story and then Barbra Streisand and Funny Girl.
Matt Rogers
You're in the right place.
Jennifer Lopez
Those two moments for me, just. I could never live up to what that is. I will always be chasing that in a way, because as a little girl, I was just like, this is what I want to do with my life. This is the culture. Whatever this culture is, whatever this world is, that's what I want to be doing. And I feel like I'm just arriving there now with Kiss of Spider Women, and I feel like my. My world now is going to. It's like returning to yourself again. Right? Like, back to the little girl, the dreams, and having that Opportunity to do that and now, like, incorporating that into everything. Like, now I'm doing. Setting up my Vegas residency, you know, for New Year's Eve and all of that.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Matt Rogers
Caesars.
Bowen Yang
Caesars.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, Caesars at the Coliseum, where Adele just was. And I'm, you know, thinking of, like, doing a totally different type of show than I've ever done.
Bowen Yang
Wow.
Jennifer Lopez
It's gonna be. And it's still, you know, as entertaining as ever, but even more so in a different way, incorporating these things that were always my influences since I was a little girl. So it's gonna be fun.
Matt Rogers
That's one of the reasons why I'm so excited that you landed in this chair for this movie, because I knew it would connect to this question. And I feel like when you say Barbra Streis.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, my God.
Matt Rogers
Like, he shared that when you got. When you came to host snl, you had a Barbara bag.
Bowen Yang
The Coach bag.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
It was the first. I texted him right after. I was like, oh, my God, J. Lo. I commented on JLo's dry sandbag, and she goes, funny Girl.
Matt Rogers
My mom would play that movie on a loop when I was a little kid.
Jennifer Lopez
I mean, there was no other movies for me except west side Story and Funny Girl. That's it. It made me want to do what I did with my life and still inspires me to reach for that. That level of what they did in those movies.
Bowen Yang
You should put a boy like that on the set list for the Call of Date. I'm kidding.
Matt Rogers
You would tear it up.
Jennifer Lopez
You know, it's funny. I'll invite you both to the show so you can see what I'm doing. It's very different and new. I'm gonna do all my hits, all my songs, but it's gonna be. You'll see.
Bowen Yang
I'm excited. Well, what were you identifying with in west side Story? Like, were you like, I'm Natalie Wood or I'm.
Jennifer Lopez
I'm Rita Moreno.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, of course you are.
Jennifer Lopez
I wanted to be, like, the gang leaders girl girlfriend.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, of course.
Jennifer Lopez
In the beautiful purple jazz, who was dancing in the middle of the. The gym and stealing the show and. Yeah, I just loved her. I loved her so much. And Rita Moreno was so good in that. In a boy like that. I mean, it's just. And America, the whole thing.
Bowen Yang
America is one of the best. It's still one of the best musicals the Queens has ever made.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Ever, ever, ever.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And they did an amazing job with the. With the reboot as well.
Bowen Yang
I agree.
Matt Rogers
Like, I thought that number in particular, too, I was like. So, like, grand. Really blew me away. Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
From Funny Girl. It would be. My man. I sing.
Bowen Yang
I sing it.
Jennifer Lopez
I've sung it many times. I love it. There's so many songs.
Matt Rogers
It's a great show in and of itself.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, I love it.
Matt Rogers
I think. My man.
Jennifer Lopez
I remember just that last moment and knowing the story. It's just all black. And she stands there forever. I love that one.
Bowen Yang
How old are you?
Jennifer Lopez
When I sang that for my kid's dad's birthday, when he turned, I threw him a big birthday party.
Bowen Yang
Beautiful.
Jennifer Lopez
I had ran a triathlon that day.
Matt Rogers
Casual. Doing it all. All the things program. And you get up. All the. All the things program is title event. All the things program.
Jennifer Lopez
Because the kids were 6 months old. He was turning 40 in September. And I decided when the kids. When I was still pregnant, I was like, I'm gonna do a triathlon. When the kids. After I give birth to get back into shape.
Matt Rogers
Wow. Yeah. Just a casual triathlon. Right?
Jennifer Lopez
But I was like, I'm giving myself. There was a show on tv, and this kid was like, I'm gonna do a triathlon. I was like, I can do it. Triathlon. Like, they're like a beached whale. Like twins. £50 off my belly. And I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking, I'm gonna do a triathlon. And I started looking to see when a triathlon was. And there was one in Malibu on September. Whatever. And then it just so happened that mark was turning 40 years old. And I was like, well, his birthday's on the same day. We'll do the party, and it will throw him off. Cause I'll do the triathlon that morning. That will be the focus. And then we're gonna just. And whatever. And oh, so. And so is having a dinner, and we have to go to it, but we'll get changed on the plane and whatever. And we walk in and he's surprised. He's like, what the hell is happening? Huge surprise. And then I disappear. And he's like, where did Jennifer disappear to? And then I come out and I sing. My man.
Matt Rogers
Just a casual day.
Bowen Yang
That's a fourth sport in and of itself.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Truly.
Jennifer Lopez
I realize now, as I say it out loud how crazy it is, because I haven't talked about that 20 years.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I don't know. The running, swimming, biking and singing and Belting Barbara.
Bowen Yang
Belting Barbara.
Jennifer Lopez
Wow. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I killed for that.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. That was fun. That was a fun day. Really fun day.
Matt Rogers
So were you.
Jennifer Lopez
And then we Left to Europe that night.
Matt Rogers
Oh, come on.
Jennifer Lopez
For our vacation with the babies.
Matt Rogers
There you go. Were you pleased with your time in the triathlon? Or I guess you didn't have much to compare it to.
Jennifer Lopez
You were good. I have stories about the triathlon that are crazy.
Matt Rogers
What happened during it.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Swim is the crazy thing.
Matt Rogers
Crazy, right?
Jennifer Lopez
You know, you go and you're looking at the ocean for the first time, and you're like, I'm going in there swimming to the buoy. Not the first one, the third one.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Okay.
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Jennifer Lopez
I'm sure there's sharks out there.
Matt Rogers
No. 100%.
Jennifer Lopez
I'm almost positive that there's big fish in there.
Matt Rogers
Which is not going through your mind when you're like, I'm going to do a triathlon. You're in the pool, you know, at.
Jennifer Lopez
The high school, swimming 70 laps and feeling like you're Wonder Woman. No, it was crazy, but I did it. And you're supposed to have your bike set up. Your bike set up. So when you come out of the water with your wetsuit, you peel off the wetsuit, you go over, and you get on your bike, you put on your sneakers, and then you bike for 18 miles or whatever it is, and then you run four miles after that. So you have to have your running sneakers on. On the whatever. So.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Have you ever been to marathon? No. I mean, like, is this.
Jennifer Lopez
No. That feels like it would be too hard, right?
Matt Rogers
It's Crazy town.
Bowen Yang
It's Crazy Town. And it feels like now there's this for me. Well, sure. It's, like, for anybody. And, like, now, I don't know, like, Harry Styles running the Berlin Marathon now is just, like, making me go like, okay, like, is this a thing that I should do? No, not that you should do, but, like, is this a thing that, like, is, like, a new PR thing for certain people to do? You know what I think?
Matt Rogers
I think it's what we were just talking about. I think this is his version of, like, I'm taking the time to find I'm gonna run a marath.
Jennifer Lopez
Sometimes you're just like, don't you get, like. Especially when people put a lot of things on you, of course, you just kind of, like, want to go, what's for me? Yeah, what am I doing for me?
Matt Rogers
Right?
Jennifer Lopez
You know, And I think that the triathlon, for me, I remember going down when I was pregnant into a room, and I looked and I saw that, you know, I had, like, two. These. My awards were in there, and I. There was American Music Award, and I had just won for Best Pop Latin Album the year before the kids were born. And I was like, wow. Oh, good. Because I wanted them to be proud of me, of their mom. And I'm like, pregnant there. And I'm looking, I go, okay, well, that was just this year, so that's good. It wasn't like I wanted 10 years ago or something like that. And I think the triathlon was part of that. It was. I want them to be proud of me now. They've never. I've told them the story. They care. They could care less. You know what I mean? Okay, he ran a triathlon. But, you know, one day maybe they'll think of it and go, wow, my mom ran the triathlon.
Matt Rogers
Well, they're probably getting to six months.
Jennifer Lopez
After she had me.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, they're probably getting to the age now. You know, you sort of treat your mom with edge because you don't want to feel like you need anyone.
Jennifer Lopez
No, they think you're the dumbest person in the world.
Matt Rogers
Right, Exactly. That was my nice way of saying it.
Jennifer Lopez
Well, they have to individuate. They have to go. They're so dependent on you those first 10, 12 years that once they get into the preteen 11, 12, they start going, I can do this without you. So they have to make you the dumbest person in the room. They have to go, I'm smarter than you. I can do that. And they really do think they're smarter than you, you know, and that you don't get it and that you don't understand anything for a little. And then they get to a point, which is, I think, where we're. I'm now with my kids, where they start appreciating you again.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, sure.
Jennifer Lopez
Because you're still there through all of the things that they threw at you, you know, and all the ways that they were kind of like, eh. And they still have a little bit of that.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
But they really are proud of you and they love you and appreciate you, and it's a beautiful thing, but it's stages, you know, just like life, there's stages.
Matt Rogers
Do they watch? Like, I guess it's like if you had to put something in front of them that you're like, I want to watch. I want you to watch this thing that I did. What is that thing?
Jennifer Lopez
Nothing.
Matt Rogers
No, no. Do you get nervous about it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're the ones.
Jennifer Lopez
They're excited. They came in for the premiere of this. Yes. Because we live in LA and they. And I'm doing A movie here. And so they flew in to go to the premiere tomorrow night.
Matt Rogers
Amazing.
Jennifer Lopez
And it's funny, they saw the CBS this Morning that I. And I talked about the kids on that, and Max said. They told me my dad, who was taking care of them was like, Max said, I'm actually looking forward to this one.
Matt Rogers
Do you think it's because he knows this is a skill set that you like? Really? What do you think it is that made him say that?
Jennifer Lopez
I think. I think it's the singing, the dancing and the acting. I think they've seen movies of mine. I think they've seen me. They've seen me on tour since they were babies, you know, but they. They haven't seen anything quite like this. And I think my. Both. My kids are very, very bright. They were both very intelligent and kind of aware, as this generation is of the world and all the things going on. And I think they realize that this is an important movie of representation and inclusion and what it stands. And I think they get proud of things like that. They're like, oh, I like that. I like that mom is doing that. You know, it matters to them. I know how much it mattered to see Rita Moreno in a movie playing the gangster's girlfriend. It made me have the life I have today. Made me realize that I could be a singer, dancer, actress, right? Like, I could do that because she was Puerto Rican. That mattered to me to see that. And it matters to them to see these things.
Bowen Yang
You know, I think the movie is about that. I think Spider Woman is about. About fantasy being. Escape fantasy being. Especially in times of political turmoil.
Jennifer Lopez
It helps you get through.
Bowen Yang
It helps you survive. Fantasy of survival in a time when it's a movie about just queerness.
Jennifer Lopez
And it's about two men who couldn't be more different than each other. One is like this cisgendered, revolutionary political guy who's at the front of the lines fighting, and the other one's a trans window dresser who's effeminate and who is like, you know, couldn't be on. They couldn't be on further end of the spectrum, right? And how being in this situation, they get to really experience each other's humanity.
Matt Rogers
And they fall in love and it becomes something beautiful.
Jennifer Lopez
You love somebody, you never thought you could love somebody. You don't understand their political views. You don't understand their gender. You don't understand their preferences. You don't understand. Understand anything about where they grew up or anything like that. And it shows us. It reminds us what Manuel Puig wrote in that novel back in the day reminds us that love and humanity and the soul of a person is much more important than the shell or their circumstances or where they grew up or what they are. Right. Like that who they are inside is really the thing that matters, and that love can transcend all of that if we just allow ourselves to be loving. And I think that is the important message of the movie.
Bowen Yang
It's the perfect project for you because you get to fulfill all these things that have always defined who you are as an artist. It's a very relevant film right now.
Matt Rogers
Especially for the reasons you said. And beyond.
Bowen Yang
And beyond. I mean, and you get to sing Kander and Ebb songs, and it's like Terrence McNally. It's like, these are the highest levels of theater and musical theater. It's like. It's the perfect intersection.
Jennifer Lopez
The thing that you said that I said earlier was, is like, it came to me when I was ready for it. And honestly, you mentioned John Kander and Fred Ebb, who people know did Chicago and all of these great music. It was in the cabaret and all of this and Kiss of the Spider Woman. And to be able to sing all of those songs, because I have 10 musical numbers in the movie.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, you show up two in a day.
Jennifer Lopez
10 musical numbers in the movie. But I also had a brand new song of theirs called Never you.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Jennifer Lopez
Which they had never put in the musical, and we wanted it. They wanted a. He had saved this song, I guess, and it was like, let's use this in there for Armando and for Aurora. And when I heard it, I was just blown away. I was like, okay, so who. Who's the template? Like, who. How do I sing it? He. They go, no, no, you sing it like you. You sing it how you would sing it. You're Aurora.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Jennifer Lopez
You're Ingrid Longnut.
Matt Rogers
That's why you're so perfect.
Jennifer Lopez
That's when it kind of hit me, and I was like, oh, fuck. Okay.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
All right. I can't listen to Cheetah's version. I can't listen to anything else or all the people who sang it on Broadway. I just have to. It's me, and I get to do that. And that was such a blessing and such a privilege. And I'm so happy and feel so blessed to have been able to do it. And this is a gift. It was a real gift.
Matt Rogers
It's done so well. And also, you don't get a better director than Dokanden. I mean, you must have been a Dreamgirls Fan, too, Of course. Yeah. Come on now.
Jennifer Lopez
Beauty and the Beast.
Matt Rogers
All of it.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Even Gods and Monsters. Have you ever seen that?
Bowen Yang
I don't think I've seen God and monsters.
Matt Rogers
Ian McKellen and Brendan Fraser. Wow. Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Really good in Chicago.
Bowen Yang
And screenplay.
Matt Rogers
Well, obviously.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Well, Chicago was Rob Marshall, but. But.
Bowen Yang
But Bill Cowden wrote it.
Matt Rogers
Oh, the movie.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, wow.
Matt Rogers
You forget that or. I forgot.
Jennifer Lopez
And he wrote this and directed it.
Matt Rogers
Directed, yeah. It's really amazing. I do want to say, just in terms of, like, speaking. Speaking to the, like, you know, the bravery of this movie and how prescient it is. There's so many indelible images of you throughout your career. You know what I mean? Like, I mentioned you just as Selena smiling in front of that stadium, et cetera. I could list on and on, but I do want you to know that at the super bowl, when you put up that Puerto Rican flag, like, you just give you a season gift, you just. You lifted so many people's spirits, like, including my own. I'm obviously not from Puerto Rico. But just to see. See your pride, especially in that moment, and as you know, conversations happen about Bad Bunny doing the super bowl coming up, I just, like, really want you to know that that will always stay with me. And so many people that were watching it, and especially you being up there with your daughter, that. That you and Shakira together. I did watch the documentary. I know there was some strife about, like, we're going to share it. Like, I deserve my own. Which you do, and so did you. But I will say that, like, boom, hit, hit, turn.
Bowen Yang
I know.
Matt Rogers
It made me so happy, and I can't imagine it different, but that super bowl was one of the great super bowl halftimes.
Jennifer Lopez
I think it's that thing of, like, what's for you and how it's for you is how it happens when you're ready for it. Like, I don't think I was ready 10 years before that to do this super bowl. And when it came around, it was meant for her and I to do together. And I see that now. And there's moments where, like, you. You get, like, come on. Because we were. She's trying to fit her whole discography, and I'm trying to fit mine into, like, not 15 minutes now, seven minutes. And so it was frustrating. It really was. But at the end of the day, it really was meant to be in the way that it happened in such a beautiful way. And you're right, that, that. That for me, being able to make those Kind of very palatable political statements in a way. Like where people could receive it.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Jennifer Lopez
No matter who you were, whether you were Latino or not or if you were a woman or not. It did. It was so important for me. And it was important for me because my kid was there singing with me and all those little girls that were on stage with me that day and representing all the kids in cages and all of the things. And the woman on top of the world, on top of the Empire Steel building or, you know, celebrating the sexuality of being on a stripper pole and. But then like, look, ma, no hands in the middle. All of it was very intentional.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
And one of the best things in my life. But as I said, and it's kind of people may have seen this where I was. I literally just started crying. It just caught me by surprise. Thinking about my child kind of yelling back at me, I'm going to live my life 100%. I was just like, I can't, I can't. But it was just. It was everything. It was everything in a moment of life. All of my worlds collided in that moment. You know what I mean? From growing up and being a little Puerto Rican girl in the Bronx to my work as an artist and my singing and my dancing and being Latin and having a child and being a mother and all of it just the pride of all of those things that you can have in one moment. And all of it coming together was just. It's kind of like a lightning bolt.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. You'll always have it. And we'll always have it on YouTube because, you know, the gays, like we're pregame.
Bowen Yang
We're playing it at music video games.
Matt Rogers
You know about that, right? Like the gay pre games that happen, you know, they go there is big is this show. It's just when gay guys get together at a pregame before you go out and you put music videos on or a post game or post game, you.
Jennifer Lopez
Know, you come back and watch all your videos.
Matt Rogers
Yes, 100%. I'm telling you.
Bowen Yang
Ritual.
Jennifer Lopez
Why am I never invited?
Bowen Yang
You're invited to the next.
Matt Rogers
You didn't invite me. We'll come after Caesars. We'll do it in Vegas. Do it in Vegas. That'll be real trouble.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes, yes, yes. The answer is yes.
Bowen Yang
It's very fun. You'll love it.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
Well, obviously you're listening to us. Smart use of your time.
Matt Rogers
True. But you could also be on a virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time. That's just brilliant time management.
Bowen Yang
Very true. This gives me an idea. Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready? First cruise. Dining. Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?
Matt Rogers
Curated dining. Next.
Bowen Yang
Okay, good choice. That's what Virgin Voyages offers. Second question. Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations. Again, I think I see where this quiz is going. Virgin Voyages is amazing.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, absolutely. The cruises are kid free. From sunrise yoga to late night cocktails, every moment is made for grown up fun.
Matt Rogers
Nothing against kids. Kids are awesome. But sometimes it's nice to be kid free.
Bowen Yang
And there's so much included value. Over $1,000.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
And you know what? I deserve luxury.
Matt Rogers
You do? And me too.
Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
Yeah, like Aruba, St. Lucia and Curacao.
Matt Rogers
But it's not all go, go, go, Right?
Bowen Yang
You can totally go into relaxation mode too. Your cabin is a full on sanctuary, private terrace, ocean views and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
Okay, so we've come to I don't think so, honey, which is our segment in this podcast where we take 60 seconds. That's one minute in. Look it up to Rant against something in cult. I have something that is specific to our guest. Okay, here we go.
Bowen Yang
Here we go. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Matt Rogers
I don't think so, honey. That you can wear the color green if you're not this woman. You can't wear green. At the super bowl when they had that neon green lights from the Waiting for Tonight video. And she said, never forget hustlers on the poll. I said, I stood up and I said, she owns that color. Because it's not just. I bet you thought JLO green. You thought about Versace green dress.
Jennifer Lopez
I did.
Matt Rogers
No, baby, I did the Waiting for Tonight music video. The color of the six. The color of the six.
Bowen Yang
Hello.
Matt Rogers
It's all coming around. Hello. I saw her show up to the premiere of Wicked. I said, that's because Elphaba's green.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
And Elphaba, I have news for you. You get green during this press tour.
Jennifer Lopez
That's it.
Bowen Yang
That's it.
Matt Rogers
Then green returns to our guest. I'm telling you, I have to imagine that our guest can rock every single color. But there's nothing like the gre. Something pops up, everyone elevates. I feel better about my life. My shoulders drop when I see that neon green waiting for tonight.
Bowen Yang
I second.
Matt Rogers
Let's go Google image Jennifer Lopez green. You're gonna get a ton of good shit. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. I can't do that. Can I say you're not expected to do that.
Bowen Yang
Mic drop.
Jennifer Lopez
That's it.
Bowen Yang
That's it.
Matt Rogers
He did it.
Jennifer Lopez
By the way, I've always said green is my lucky color. It is. I don't say it's my favorite color. It's my lucky color. For whatever reason, I'm always in green when everything goes right.
Matt Rogers
Can I tell? I can't believe it's not your favorite color. I do love it.
Jennifer Lopez
I do love it as a favorite color. But I've always said. I've never say it's my favorite color. I always go, it's my lucky color.
Bowen Yang
What's your favorite right now in this moment?
Jennifer Lopez
Today, my favorite color.
Bowen Yang
Today.
Jennifer Lopez
Today. I would say, I would say green.
Matt Rogers
Especially after that. You can't come through. Not with green.
Jennifer Lopez
After that, I was like, do I have another color there?
Matt Rogers
No. Green is it.
Jennifer Lopez
That's it. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Are your eyes green?
Jennifer Lopez
They have a little bit of green and gold.
Bowen Yang
Beautiful.
Matt Rogers
I mean, I just like, I'll just. The waiting. First of all, waiting for tonight. If you do you have A favorite JLO song, because mine is Waiting for Tonight.
Jennifer Lopez
Is it. Thank you.
Matt Rogers
And Get Right.
Bowen Yang
Of course.
Jennifer Lopez
I don't know. I don't know.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Matt Rogers
It's.
Bowen Yang
I mean, there's.
Matt Rogers
It's hard to say.
Jennifer Lopez
Get Right, that's one of my favorite songs. Yes. But also just the. The end of it, it gets, like.
Bowen Yang
So, like, just when the beat drops out.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt Rogers
I love it.
Jennifer Lopez
And we do the dance. Brave.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yes.
Jennifer Lopez
I start singing and scream.
Bowen Yang
Did a little bit of it.
Matt Rogers
Well, the mark of like this. Because the second you hear Waiting for Tonight, like, the. And you're just like. Now, let me ask you a question. You know where you're at?
Jennifer Lopez
Let me ask you a question, because since you brought up Waiting for Tonight, I many times will put in the show the remix of Waiting for Tonight. Do you miss the original?
Matt Rogers
I think the original is a classic.
Jennifer Lopez
Okay, okay, okay, okay. That's all I need to hear.
Matt Rogers
It's not about missing it, because the remix is sick. Like, any. Anything you can do, but I can.
Jennifer Lopez
Perform it because I feel like it's more exciting. Like the lasers. The lasers came from the lasers.
Matt Rogers
You know what I mean? But we can have the lasers with the original. I mean, I feel like. But the original is just. It's a classic.
Bowen Yang
Yes, but this is. But this is your dilemma. Like, the original is a classic, but that's. If you want to, like, really bring it, like, down and ground, and you want people to, like, really lean in and listen to you sing, if you're playing the remix, we're all jumping and singing along.
Jennifer Lopez
Right, right, right.
Bowen Yang
It depends on what you want.
Jennifer Lopez
What's happening. Yeah. What section of the show? It's in.
Bowen Yang
There you go.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I don't think that's helpful. We're not really giving you, like, a decision.
Jennifer Lopez
I wanted to know because Benny and I, my longtime manager, godfather to my kids, and one of my best friends and my brother, icon, we always argue about that. We argue because he always wants me to do that. And I never do the original. I always do the remix live because I just feel like it's more exciting.
Bowen Yang
Sure.
Jennifer Lopez
And he's like, what about a mashup?
Matt Rogers
What about you start. You probably had every conversation.
Jennifer Lopez
I know, but I'm thinking, I don't know, in this new era of mine where I'm making the new show and creating something really new, but maybe I'll go back to that.
Matt Rogers
Is there a way to make it very dramatic in musical theater? In the beginning and then it kicks in.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. There's all kinds of things. I've done a lot of different things. Waiting for tonight. When I opened the American Music Awards, I sang Waiting for Tonight. I did it kind of like very slow, very this. And then we went into that big medley. There's a different. There's a lot of different ways to do it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I also want to say in terms of favorite songs before Bowen does. I don't think so, honey. I would sing no Me Ames knowing no Spanish, and I would just pretend I'd be like, no Meames. And I would just kind of give what I thought the words were, what it is.
Jennifer Lopez
But my mom was just like, I.
Matt Rogers
Can'T have you singing gibberish anymore. Because, you know, it was on all the time in the house. I love that album.
Bowen Yang
It's like the K pop thing. It's, like, moving.
Matt Rogers
I was making the words up. Up.
Bowen Yang
It's like, you don't know necessarily what's being communicated, but it transcends the language.
Matt Rogers
Oh, no. It's such a beautiful song. I love that song. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I'm just talking about, you know, these songs in general that are in English. You know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
It's like. No, I knew exactly what was being.
Jennifer Lopez
It's like the Bad Bunny thing. You don't need to understand Spanish to, like, be rocking with Bad Bunny all the time.
Matt Rogers
He's wonderful to look at, but first.
Jennifer Lopez
Of all, he's just a cultural phenomenon. Right? Like, he's one of those artists, like you say, that transcends everything. That transcends color, race, it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If you like good music, then you like bad money.
Matt Rogers
You will enjoy the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yes. Photos is one of the great albums.
Jennifer Lopez
Amazing.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. The last, like, decade, I would say.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I love. I love that album.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Bowen Yang
More general. This will bring it down. No, no, no. There's different ways to do it.
Jennifer Lopez
Okay.
Bowen Yang
I'm gonna do a different way.
Jennifer Lopez
Okay. Do it a different way.
Matt Rogers
This is the.
Bowen Yang
This is not pop culture. This is just life.
Matt Rogers
This is Bowen Young's.
Jennifer Lopez
Okay. This is life.
Matt Rogers
This is life. This is based on life. Like much. This is Bowen Young's. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Bowen Yang
I don't think so, honey. The humiliating task of making sure shampoo and conditioner bottles finish at the same time that you keep them evenly full. Because you got me acting like Dexter's laboratory in the steam, acting like a damn mad scientist trying to make sure these two things finish at the Same time. What is this?
Matt Rogers
Sexual intercourse. I gotta make sure they finish at the same time.
Bowen Yang
Because what you're not gonna have me do is buy some 2 for 1 parabens sludge 37. No, but this is the thing. Why haven't we figured out, as a society, put the conditioner in smaller bottles or to sell two sizes of one or the other, depending on what you go through faster. Finishing them at the same time is impossible. Meanwhile, body wash is sitting over there, minding its own business. Stick. Staying iconic. I keep my side of the street clean, it says. But shampoo and conditioner, this is a toxic relationship that I will never, ever.
Matt Rogers
Ever be able to transcend.
Bowen Yang
Being in the shower is hell every day for some people. Because guess what? I feel like I'm failing at life if I can't keep this.
Matt Rogers
And that's what. Man, you need a three in one. You need a three in one body wash, shampoo, conditioner. I've never understood the problem with three in one. People are like, no, it compromises on so much.
Bowen Yang
Exactly.
Jennifer Lopez
Conditioner is a totally different thing.
Bowen Yang
You gotta moisturize.
Matt Rogers
Tell us about it.
Jennifer Lopez
It's a totally different. Yeah, shampoo is a cleaner conditioner, moisturizer. It's like. Yeah, it's different.
Matt Rogers
No, this is the son of a hairdresser.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes.
Matt Rogers
The son of a Long island hairdresser. I don't even know this stuff. I know. Talk about volume. There you go. And I'm adrift over here.
Bowen Yang
No.
Matt Rogers
Well, thank you for your service.
Bowen Yang
I feel like we're not talking about this enough as a culture.
Matt Rogers
Clearly. And also the word paraben being mentioned. The fact that words like paraben. Just paraben slides, which.
Bowen Yang
Which is what it is.
Matt Rogers
The fact that words like that exist up here.
Bowen Yang
Come on.
Matt Rogers
That's my bestie.
Jennifer Lopez
That's my bestie. Are you guys besties?
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Jennifer Lopez
Are you besties? You didn't just get thrown together?
Bowen Yang
No. We've known each other since college.
Matt Rogers
We didn't win a casting call.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
We've known each other since, like, 18, 19. Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Did you ever date? No, no, just.
Bowen Yang
I know everyone thinks that.
Jennifer Lopez
Just asking.
Matt Rogers
Just trying to get all the background. We never really get, like, directly asked the question, but.
Jennifer Lopez
No, I did. I just asked.
Matt Rogers
You're allowed to ask journalist J.
Jennifer Lopez
Lo.
Matt Rogers
I know.
Jennifer Lopez
Now, by the way, I hate. If you ask me. Don't ask me.
Bowen Yang
We're not out. Well, we're not gonna ask. Don't worry. But we are gonna ask you to do. And I don't think so, honey.
Matt Rogers
Are you ready? I don't know what to do. You have something.
Bowen Yang
It will come. It will come here. I want you to do, like, a legato. I don't think so. Any. Just like this. Keep it in this tone and speed. I just want you to, like, ruminate. Okay.
Matt Rogers
Jennifer Lopez is.
Bowen Yang
I don't think so. Your time starts now.
Jennifer Lopez
I don't think so. When people come to me knowing what my schedule is and how crazy it can be and not fill me in on all the details, they take, they. They leave out the details. They are trying to be helpful. They are trying to. They're trying to be, you know, the favorite person, but they're not. They're not. They really make my life stressful and full of anxiety. It's not fun in that way. I really much rather know everything ahead of time. Be honest with me. What I'm saying is be honest with me. I want you to be honest with me. You don't have to lie to me. You know how they lie to celebrities all the time? Don't do that. No. Tell me the truth. I can take it. I can take it. Just tell me. Tell me this is what's going to happen. This is what you need to know. Have me prepped. Have me prepared. I like rehearsal. I want to rehearse. I want to be prepared. I want to do it. I have the discipline. You can be honest with me. Just be honest with me. I hate when people are not honest.
Bowen Yang
And that's one of my.
Jennifer Lopez
I think so. Yes.
Matt Rogers
And we will never lie to you. Sometimes I do get the sense that when people get to a certain level.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
They'll come kind of like, I don't know if they get worried or like, they don't want to be the person who delivers the bad news or whatever. And it's like, it's okay.
Bowen Yang
Or they're holding on to the information and making sure they want to. They package it right and present it.
Matt Rogers
In the right way. Just tell me, are you someone that likes it like.
Jennifer Lopez
Like, straight, Straight? I love it.
Matt Rogers
Not like, hi.
Jennifer Lopez
No. So what do you say? Spit it. I literally. I'm like, spit it out. I want you to feel free of this. Yes.
Bowen Yang
Yes. On that note. On that note, I think the reason we love you and people love you is because you are an excellent communicator. As we're talking about communication. It's. It's. I think it's. That's your through line as well. You know how to connect with an audience. Thank you so much for communicating with us. Thank you for coming on the show.
Matt Rogers
And thank you for the years of joy and entertainment that you have brought. Because you really are. I mean, like, they throw around the word icon, but you are because you. You back it up. And, like, just the amount of times I've, like, left with a big smile on my face after seeing you do what you do is countless.
Jennifer Lopez
I appreciate you guys so much. You guys are fantastic.
Matt Rogers
We're so happy, you guys.
Jennifer Lopez
This has been the best part of my press tour.
Matt Rogers
Oh, my gosh. Clip it, clip it, clip it. And send it out to the masses. And always rooting for you.
Jennifer Lopez
Thank you.
Matt Rogers
We end every episode with a song.
Jennifer Lopez
Wait, you play a song?
Matt Rogers
No, we do. We do one. We sing one in front of the guests. Even our recording. Recording artist. Guess.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, wow.
Matt Rogers
Which one are you picking?
Jennifer Lopez
If you had my love and you.
Matt Rogers
Gave you Come for me. I picked the key, too. And if I gave you me. If you want to hear that, listen to on the six. Do yourself a favor, get on the six and listen to on the six. I might go out of my way today to ride it.
Bowen Yang
I'm gonna play that at home authentically.
Jennifer Lopez
You guys are amazing.
Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Becca Ramos, edited and.
Bowen Yang
Mixed by Doug Bain.
Matt Rogers
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
So start packing those bags and be the best Easter you can be.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Jennifer Lopez
This is an iHeart podcast.
Release Date: October 8, 2025
Hosts: Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang
Guest: Jennifer Lopez
Network: Big Money Players / iHeartPodcasts
This star-studded episode of Las Culturistas welcomes the incomparable Jennifer Lopez. Matt and Bowen dive deep with J.Lo into her new film and first major movie musical—Kiss of the Spider Woman—alongside early formative experiences, cultural icons, and life lessons from an entertainment career that continues to redefine what’s possible. J.Lo discusses discipline, passion, Latin representation, being an icon, artistic fulfillments, motherhood, fame, and the importance of honest communication and “the silence” in creativity.
[05:07–09:34]
“It actually gives you a leg up on everybody because you’re a hard worker…for the discipline.” – J.Lo, 09:10
[07:32–09:07]
“You have a deep well of feeling….I’m not afraid of those emotions. I like the way they feel. It makes me…feel alive.” – J.Lo, 07:32
[09:34–10:18]
“She’s not going back to her dressing room. She’s on set.” – Bowen, 09:45
J.Lo: “Once I get on set, I’m on set.”
[10:20–11:34]
“Sometimes we would have to do, like, two musical numbers in a day.” – J.Lo, 11:17
[11:49–15:17]
“I studied this footage. I could tell you every step, every way her finger moved, her eyebrows, everything…” – J.Lo, 12:33 “I had to put forth the feeling of everything that moment meant.” – J.Lo, 13:17
[20:41–22:43]
“The things that came to me came to me when I was ready for them and not a second sooner.” – J.Lo, 21:54
[22:51–25:27]
“People were like, are you fucking crazy?” – J.Lo, 24:32 “I didn’t know how I would reconcile the movie career and the music career, but I knew I could do both, so why not do both, right?” – J.Lo, 25:02
[26:09–30:52]
“I can fall in love with anybody…even Kiss of the Spider Woman, for me, is only about love.” – J.Lo, 26:09
“I can’t tell you how many times…I’ve had someone come up to me and say, ‘This song got me through this,’ or this movie…‘you became like my pseudo-mom’…” – J.Lo, 29:08
[30:52–32:55]
“You get your first bad review…you learn that it does not define you, that you know who you are.” – J.Lo, 31:19
[33:33–36:33]
“It made me realize, like, you have nothing to prove. You should just be doing shit you love when you want to do it, and you don’t have to do all the things. But I was on the all the things program for a long time.” – J.Lo, 35:21
“Don’t be afraid of the silence. Go to the silence.” – (Michaela Coel quoted by Matt, 36:54)
[35:43–55:01]
“Nothing!” – J.Lo, 53:21
But they were excited to see Kiss of the Spider Woman due to its importance and artistry.
[55:12–56:59]
“Love and humanity and the soul of a person is much more important than the shell or their circumstances or where they grew up…love can transcend all of that if we allow ourselves to be loving.” – J.Lo, 55:57
[58:26–62:35]
“You just gave…you lifted so many people’s spirits, like, including my own…that Super Bowl was one of the great Super Bowl halftimes.” – Matt, 60:03
“It was everything in a moment of life. All of my worlds collided in that moment.” – J.Lo, 61:31
[44:01–46:45]
“Those two moments for me…I will always be chasing that in a way, because as a little girl, I was just like, this is what I want to do with my life.” – J.Lo, [44:24]
Matt Rogers:
Riffs on how only J.Lo can truly wear the color green and own it across pop culture, from Versace to Waiting for Tonight.
“You thought J.Lo green—you thought about Versace green dress. No, baby, I did the Waiting for Tonight music video… everyone elevates.” — Matt Rogers, [68:23]
Jennifer Lopez:
(Dry, with a real-life edge):
“I don’t think so when people come to me knowing what my schedule is… and not fill me in on all the details… Be honest with me. You don’t have to lie to me… I want to be prepared.” – J.Lo, [76:24]
If you listen to just one part: Don’t miss the “Kiss of the Spider Woman” discussion about fan relationships and the impact of representation ([26:53–30:52]), the “Culture That Made You” segment ([44:01–46:45]), and J.Lo’s frankness on “the all-the-things program” ([35:21]).
Clippable Moments:
This episode is a masterclass on longevity, passion, and the cultural power of showing up—on your own terms—in a world that wants to define you otherwise!