Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang Episode: "The Universe Needs To Relax" (w/ Cynthia Erivo)
Hosts: Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Guest: Cynthia Erivo
Produced by: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts
Introduction to Cynthia Erivo’s Journey
In this episode of Las Culturistas, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang sit down with Cynthia Erivo, an Emmy, Grammy, and Tony-winning actress and songwriter, to delve deep into her transformative role as Elphaba in the acclaimed musical Wicked. The conversation explores her emotional and professional journey, the intricate process of embodying such an iconic character, and her future aspirations in the entertainment industry.
A Surreal Screening Experience
[03:05] Cynthia Erivo:
"I was fresh off seeing the film Wicked Part 1 again. Last night there was a screening... Kristen was there. Norbert was there. So many wonderful, wonderful people."
Cynthia recounts attending a special screening of Wicked Part 1 surrounded by Broadway legends and original cast members. This event was not just another viewing but a profound immersion into the world of Wicked, emphasizing the generational impact and the communal spirit of the Broadway family.
[03:20] Bowen Yang:
"This was not just any screening."
The screening featured an intimate gathering of Broadway friends and family, making it a monumental occasion that highlighted the enduring legacy of Wicked over its 21-year run worldwide.
Embarking on the Elphaba Journey
[12:32] Matt Rogers:
"Defying Gravity... that battle cry is so different."
The hosts dive into Cynthia’s portrayal of Elphaba, particularly focusing on her rendition of "Defying Gravity." Cynthia elaborates on the necessity of infusing the final note with grit and rage, marking the beginning of Elphaba’s transformation into the Wicked Witch.
[12:59] Cynthia Erivo:
"It had to be, for both of us, the release of everything, it had to be a roar."
Cynthia and her collaborator John crafted a unique vocal departure from Elphaba’s previously clean timbre, aiming to capture the raw emotion essential for the character’s evolution.
Navigating Emotional Depth and Performance
[17:05] Cynthia Erivo:
"I'm aware that so many people on that set are versions of Elphaba... We're all watching a version of ourselves in this moment."
[19:27] Cynthia Erivo:
"It felt like there was the most amazing energy in the room."
Cynthia discusses the emotional challenges of portraying Elphaba, particularly in scenes that depict rejection and loneliness. The supportive environment on set allowed her to navigate these intense moments, fostering a sense of communal understanding among the cast.
[17:09] Bowen Yang:
"The song 'Dancing Through Life'... I could get chills."
The conversation highlights specific scenes, such as "Dancing Through Life," where Cynthia’s performance evokes a powerful emotional response from both the audience and her fellow cast members.
The Audition and Collaboration with John M. Chu
[22:36] Matt Rogers:
"When you performed 'I'm Here' at the Tony Awards... it felt like you were putting a warm blanket over everyone."
[23:21] Matt Rogers:
"How do you unwind? What do you do to, like, chill?"
Cynthia shares her audition experience with director John M. Chu, emphasizing the respect and support she received during the process. The collaboration was marked by mutual understanding and a shared vision for Elphaba’s character, allowing Cynthia to bring her unique interpretation to life.
[23:32] Cynthia Erivo:
"I didn't want to even know until they needed me to come in."
Her approach to auditions is rooted in authenticity and a deep connection to the character, ensuring that her performances are both genuine and impactful.
Impact of the SAG Strike on Production
[47:28] Bowen Yang:
"And I will say that when the SAG strike happened... it's a collaborative thing with you and with Jon."
[48:20] Cynthia Erivo:
"At first it started off like torture... accepting we weren't coming back quickly."
The unexpected SAG strike posed significant challenges, delaying the final stages of filming Defying Gravity. Cynthia describes the period of uncertainty and the emotional toll it took as the cast awaited resumption of production, ultimately strengthening their resolve to complete the project.
Future Endeavors: Music and Production
[59:08] Cynthia Erivo:
"I'm under a joint venture... I'm kind of ready. We're putting finishing touches and getting it all done."
Looking ahead, Cynthia discusses her collaboration with Ariana Grande on a new music project. This venture signifies a fusion of her theatrical prowess with her passion for music, aiming to create an eclectic album that harnesses her vocal strengths.
[63:08] Cynthia Erivo:
"My production company is working on a series right now... Prima Facie is being turned into a movie."
Additionally, Cynthia shares insights into her production company’s upcoming projects, including adapting the play Prima Facie into a film, showcasing her ambition to explore diverse narratives and expand her creative footprint.
Personal Reflections and Creative Process
[57:21] Cynthia Erivo:
"When I was 11, I realized... there’s something I can do with this."
Cynthia reflects on her early connection with music, recognizing it as the first language that shaped her artistic identity. This foundational relationship with music fuels her creative endeavors, both in acting and songwriting.
[60:18] Matt Rogers:
"What is your next run? What's the next?"
The hosts inquire about Cynthia’s future projects, to which she hints at further creative explorations while maintaining an air of mystery about upcoming ventures.
Closing Thoughts
[71:55] Cynthia Erivo:
"I've actually never read Middlemarch yet, I'm going to get into it. I'm going to read a little bit more."
As the episode winds down, Cynthia shares her love for literature and her plans to immerse herself in classic novels alongside her bustling career. The episode concludes with heartfelt acknowledgments of the collaborative spirit that defines Cynthia’s approach to storytelling and performance.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
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Cynthia Erivo [03:05]:
"I felt like, oh, I'm part of this incredible sisterhood... it became a really huge moment to be a part of." -
Cynthia Erivo [12:32]:
"Defying Gravity... that battle cry is so different than the way you've approached vocally the rest of the performance." -
Cynthia Erivo [17:05]:
"I'm feeling very, very, like floaty. Last night was crazy and amazing." -
Cynthia Erivo [21:22]:
"What do you mean? Just wine." -
Cynthia Erivo [62:05]:
"It's unforgettable that I can do that. I understand. She's like, your voice is an instrument, so just use it that way."
Conclusion
This episode offers a profound exploration of Cynthia Erivo’s artistic journey, highlighting her dedication to her craft, the emotional depth she brings to her roles, and her unwavering commitment to storytelling. Through candid conversations and insightful reflections, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the cultural impact Cynthia has in the realms of theater and music.
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