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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Matt Rogers
Look, man, there.
Bowen Yang
Oh, I see my eye.
Matt Rogers
Oh my. Bowen, look over there.
Bowen Yang
Wow. Is that culture?
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Goodness.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Bowen Yang
Las Culturistas.
Matt Rogers
Ding Dong.
Bowen Yang
The Lost Culture.
Matt Rogers
Risa's calling. How do you feel when we're in this setup doing it? I feel like we're recording this on a Monday and it's way PM for way on the West Coast. And I feel like this was always when we recorded it during the pandemic. So it's a little sensitive for me in a way that's like a little spooky.
Bowen Yang
What's coming up, what is surfacing?
Matt Rogers
I don't know. I'm just like, that was a vibe when we were recording it. Like that era, the pandemic. Lost culture recordings were a different moment in last culture history.
Bowen Yang
For those of y'all that are endeavoring, for whatever reason, to go back and listen all the way through, first of all, we commend you and applaud you. I can't imagine that is mentally medically advisable.
Matt Rogers
No.
Bowen Yang
But I hope that those episodes don't feel too capsule y in the moment. But of course they are. Cause like, what else would they be? I do feel like every now and then throughout the year we have these zoom episodes. I mean, what feels different about it this time? That it's nighttime.
Matt Rogers
It's literally the time of day. It's literally like I'm looking outside and the darkness has descended and I'm sitting. You know what, really this comes back to again, It's. I'm sitting in this same room that I've been in since February 2020 in LA and must leave.
Bowen Yang
That sounds like a you problem.
Matt Rogers
It's. Oh, it's a major me problem. Everything I'm bringing especially, and here's the thing is, it's like I've been so excited to record all day because when you talk about culture catch ups, you hope you can recap some culture that's as good as the stuff we've gotten in the last even 24 hours. Even 24 hours. But for us, the last 72 hours, of course, 96 even.
Bowen Yang
96. But how's this for a throwback? You want to talk throwback?
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
We're going to be talking about the Grammys.
Matt Rogers
Yep. Say it.
Bowen Yang
Say this part, which was the topic of conversation for the first ever episode of Las Cole Touristas.
Matt Rogers
And that's why it saddens us to say this is the last of Lost culture. Just kidding. You absolute freaks.
Bowen Yang
The Kyle's came in and stormed the castle and ruined it.
Matt Rogers
All the kitties were throwing themselves onto the freeway.
Bowen Yang
Jesus.
Matt Rogers
Jeez. Sorry, guys.
Bowen Yang
Death to all of them. Jesus.
Matt Rogers
10 and 2, everyone. Or 12 and hand on your hip if you're like me driving on the roads because we're cruising into culture. The Grammys were last night. We were in Vegas this weekend and Lady Gaga has hit us with it hard. Sorry, Billie. Wow. The coach lately, Bo. The cult lately, Bo.
Bowen Yang
The culture lately. Matt, can we outline chart the course of how we want to discuss this? You brought up Billy. We can talk about snubs, which there were. There's always a few, even for a night that I thought was as great as it was last night. It's just. It's so rare that it's Grammys and we're happy.
Matt Rogers
Can we say best Grammys in our lifetime?
Bowen Yang
Maybe since 99. Maybe. I don't know.
Matt Rogers
Best Grammys in our recent lifetime. For sure. I mean, this was fun from the beginning. It moved. I loved the winners. I have little qualms here and there, but the wealth was being spread. I think we got some moments that were kind of live tv, unforgettable. Like that entire. Let's start here. That entire Best New Artist section.
Bowen Yang
Loved.
Matt Rogers
That was a great TV moment. Dochi's performance. How about that?
Bowen Yang
Catfish into Denial is a river. Phenomenal conveyor belt. Ripping the Thom Browne off. All of it. I mean, just her fucking being held in, the splits, the training this girl has. Yeah, I think I showed you. When Crazy first came out this video, my first exposure to Dochi was a couple years ago. This video called Crazy Love.
Matt Rogers
This video. This video went really hard.
Bowen Yang
Kind of reminds me of Abracadabra, which we will get to.
Matt Rogers
Don't you worry, freaks.
Bowen Yang
Don't you worry, freak. I don't know. This is. She is, first of all, historic Grammy win, but she seized that energy and, God, I mean, this is. This is so gratifying for her, where it's the sobriety journey that she's been on. This album is about that journey, and for it to be held up in that way is so cool to see what an inspiration. We love Dochi in this house. The only girl that Azalea's afraid of now.
Matt Rogers
Oop.
Bowen Yang
Because Azealia tried it with her and Doji was like, please don't do this. You will regret it.
Matt Rogers
This girl is a bazooka on stage. I mean, it is everything at 10 top quality. I mean, the precision, the vision, the just degree of difficulty that she's doing things at. And for it to look this easy, this is exactly what excellence is. I thought there was a second there after that performance and, you know, when she had won Best Rap album, and I had thought this when, you know, her new stuff was coming out a little early right in the voting period, she had that insane performance on. I believe it was Colbert.
Bowen Yang
Colbert. Oh, yes.
Matt Rogers
I was like, this girl could take best new artist.
Bowen Yang
And let's not forget tiny desk. Absolutely.
Matt Rogers
Oh, the tiny desk was crazy. The tiny desk was out of this world. But she is somebody that is gonna be talked about the rest of her life if she wants and plays it right. She's forever. That's a really big, bright superstar.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. We love Dochi to go back to the best new artist. Block loved it. I mean, really stacked year. Ray Rhea, I think is. If anyone besides Billie has a snub narrative around her, I think it's Ray. But it's purely because. And I think this is maybe a thing that we can talk about in terms of indie artists. Like, Rhea does not have the same things at her disposal that the other nominees and best new artists did necessarily like. The reason maybe that she is still being known is because she's working with what she has and we need to give her more because she is such a talent. My God. Because between Rhea and I think, and I wanna say claro, like, these are the indie girls and the indie artists that like, was like the last little crack in the china for me, where it's like, oh, this is the thing that we can look at in the future, maybe, where it's like, let's give indie artists a little bit more of an apparatus to succeed in this space.
Matt Rogers
The way that Ray opens up her vocal when she's bouncing, like, because it's so dexterous and it's so cool and it's. Her albums are like. And her music is like a Rubik's Cube to me sometimes where I'm like, I do sometimes. Sometimes I wish it just were a little bit more streamlined.
Bowen Yang
It's slippery. It's slippery.
Matt Rogers
But my thing is, like, watching her perform and I got to see her at Coachella 2 last year and live. She's crazy. Like, watching her perform is almost more interesting the way that it said because you get to the experience of watching it live and really sitting in it. Like, I think one of my favorite songs for her and don't read me for this is Black Mascara. Just because it is a little bit more straightforward.
Bowen Yang
But sure.
Matt Rogers
I'm so blown away with how dynamic she is. And my favorite part of her voice is when she's belting. I mean, she's got the healthiest belt in that room, I think. Well, that's Dante. We can't say that because Cynthia Erivo is maybe the best singer in the world.
Bowen Yang
You and I had said this and then I obnoxiously. I'm going to say this to readers. Katie Publicist Publicist finalist Kyle's. I did text her while she was singing and I said, I think you are unequivocally one of the best vocalists of all time.
Matt Rogers
Everything about that performance was crazy. Crazy. The amount of people that went up there and just completely demolished and created a feeling of euphoria in that room.
Bowen Yang
Yes, it was an entrancing night.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
We were all enthralled. We were in a literal thrall. We were going crazy watching the TV together. And it was moment after moment. I got my life watching all of it.
Matt Rogers
My experience, like, I think reached, you know, remember that moment. This is also an award show moment. It was actually number one on the top 200 moment of culture. That feeling of Adele D'zim happening. And you just feel a pure euphoria in your chest watching one of these shows. I had that, like three times. I had that when Chapel performed at the end when she's. I want to get my dad belting her tits off while they're running the choreo of everyone running on stage. I was up out of my chair screaming, throwing hands when the entire crowd. It has to feel awful to be Drake. When the entire crowd said a minor. That. That. That was so crazy.
Bowen Yang
That's the industry being on one side of that beef in the craziest, most cruel, but perhaps justified way.
Matt Rogers
It really is over, huh? Like that. That's wild. It's hard to. I would imagine it's hard to feel good or be able to come back to a good place anytime soon after that one. And then the third moment I had was, I guess a time. Maybe it's one moment that feels like two movies. It feels like one, rather, is Beyonce's country album win reaction. And then album of the year, which one of our long national nightmares is over? At least Beyonce is an album of the year winner.
Bowen Yang
Do you have a vessel of. For a beverage in front of you?
Matt Rogers
You know what? Let me Mo.
Bowen Yang
Engineer Mo is joining us.
Matt Rogers
Engineer Mo is raising a glass.
Bowen Yang
Okay. This is for. For self titled. For four. Four lemonade.
Matt Rogers
It's for I am Sasha Fierce.
Bowen Yang
It's for I am Sasha Fierce.
Matt Rogers
It's for Renaissance.
Bowen Yang
Of course. Renaissance. And let's even say B day. Let's even say dangerously in love.
Matt Rogers
Let's say it all.
Bowen Yang
It's the full discography.
Matt Rogers
This goes out to the writings on the wall. The writing has been on the wall. This goes out to survivor. This is 25 years in the making Beyonce album of the year winner. And it Feels good. And it was when the world needed it the most.
Bowen Yang
Cheers.
Matt Rogers
We'll see you at the Rodeo Chitlin Circuit tour.
Bowen Yang
Last night was this crazy reminder to me, I guess. I mean, or unless some people have this tidbit at the back of their head, I'm like, oh, my God, not since the miseducation of Lauryn Hill.
Matt Rogers
It's just like. It's not even about. Just like her not deserving it. It's about. Like, it's about so much more. You could just tell everyone in the room was feeling not even just a wrong being righted, but just like that is the person that is the bar for everyone in the room. And she should be up there at the. At the finale of that evening, finally. And the way that she was genuinely surprised about country album, you knew that was a. That was a meme coming like the asteroid and don't look up. It was headed our way. And I've seen so many great artists online do things with that and great meme artistry happening from these Grammys, I have to say. Lots of visuals.
Bowen Yang
Very good.
Matt Rogers
We have a very visual pop star crowd right now. They're giving us a lot to look at.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, it feels nice. I do want to shout out the heroes and as they call themselves Sheroes, who were the firefighters and especially Ms. Mama, who weeks ago was engulfed in flames saving lives, you know, trying to put out these fires.
Matt Rogers
Was this the one who actually said the name of the album?
Bowen Yang
She said the name of the album, but she was giving me something close to an Adele dazeem moment because she, with her full chest and conviction, a.
Matt Rogers
Hero, a shiro Shiro.
Bowen Yang
I clapped in my room alone when she so confidently said this was the.
Matt Rogers
Moment we were waiting for at the.
Bowen Yang
End of this huge, touching, amazing culmination of the night, which was to help rebuild LA after these fires. They pass it on to her. And she goes. And she's about to like, roll out the nominees, go to that package. She goes, and now the nominee for album of the year. And I said, miss the nominee for.
Matt Rogers
Album of the year. Because she knew only one really mattered.
Bowen Yang
It's that and then.
Matt Rogers
Cause only one would ultimately be the winner. And that's something that she was thinking about that we weren't. Are there even nominees when one's gonna win? Think about that.
Bowen Yang
Think about that. And she opens up that envelope. She gasps, holds it to her chest.
Matt Rogers
Holds it to her chest, then says.
Bowen Yang
The words carboca, Cowboy Carter, Cardboard Carter, Cardboard cart, Cowboy Carter.
Matt Rogers
This woman had not corrected I wish we had gotten Cardboard counter.
Bowen Yang
Cardboard counter.
Matt Rogers
Cardboard counter. Title of that. Cardboard counter.
Bowen Yang
Cardboard counter. That is the title of app. I'm not being. I'm not being facetious here. She was incredible.
Matt Rogers
No, she had the star energy that everyone in the room wishes they had.
Bowen Yang
This woman was saying goodbye to her family every day to fight these fucking fires.
Matt Rogers
Yep.
Bowen Yang
We just need to put that on TV more, that's all. Like at award shows.
Matt Rogers
Bring out real people in a real way. The entire night was a perfect balance of acknowledging obviously the trauma that everyone has been through and the fear that people have, but also the little moments of levity. Like, I loved when. I mean, it's obviously devastating. This is the reality that we even have to have this. But the fact is, like, there was a couple months where they show people going through rubbish and like, finding wedding rings. Those little moments of hope. I mean, they probably raised a lot of money. They said 7 million at that one point in the show. I was moved to donate. Everyone should donate. I mean, it was. It was. It was a really well balanced evening in a time that feels so fucking messed up. And obviously so much has been going on in the past couple weeks. And we, by the way, just want to affirm our solidarity with the trans community and just make sure that everyone knows that we got their back because what's going on is so fucked up. But it was great to see so many people standing up, using their voices in a time that feels weird because it feels like we're letting one person control everything. And I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about Elon fucking Musk. I just watched, like this crazy YouTube video with Jasmine Crockett before I got on here. The vibes are so all over the place. Cause Beyonce is album of the year, but Elon's taking over the world. It's at a fever pitch right now.
Bowen Yang
It's just crazy that you have a best new artist winner. Say something. Speak so cogently and directly to this, like, real issue that so many people, not even just musicians, as so many people.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Understand. And meanwhile, it's all these headlines being like, the Democrats don't have a message. It's like, well, what the fuck then? What the fuck are you doing? It's right there. Yeah, it's crazy then, like, this queer girl is reading from her moleskine or from her, like, term or whatever.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Speaking to the people in a way that, like, is so invigorating and so validating and tragic and dark and all of these things. But meanwhile, there's like a messaging issue for, like this horrible, horrible, dysfunctional party. It's. It's so crazy. I mean, yes, like, there was something about last night, the Grammys, that was life affirming and beautiful and communal and all these things, but it also sadly felt like, ensconced in that space.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Only. And, like, we just need, we need to sort of let that out. We need to ventilate that, that whole vibe. I don't know how I sound like a fucking idiot saying this, but, like.
Matt Rogers
No, I agree.
Bowen Yang
I mean, that's what, that's what I want.
Matt Rogers
That's what I was thinking about the entire time is I was just like, it's so crazy to hear these attacks on dei, which I can't even believe like, is an acronym that we're, like, discussing in this, in this way.
Bowen Yang
Like, it is say a slur, just say any slur.
Matt Rogers
It's like a given that obviously diversity strengthens everything, period. Our country, our world, period. You're watching this night, it's like, even on a vibe check alone, if you're at home watching that, you're not, you're not questioning things a little bit. Like, I'm so happy that they didn't make explicit mention of, you know, Trump or whatever, because then he would have felt the need to, like, pick on people or get in a fight with this, you know, award show, as it were. He'll, like, he loves to just, like, feud with them as if they're individuals, but it's just crazy that we can hold both right now. It's wild that people can't see that there is a truth and a light. I don't know, it is wild.
Bowen Yang
I went a little crazy as the night went on as they were wrapping the evening around the fires, which they should have, and I think they executed that beautifully. And the objective was met, which was money was raised. The other piece of that that was missing, I thought was, why aren't you acknowledging that this is climate change? Yeah, like, why are we, why are we afraid to acknowledge this? Which is why when Gaga finally says trans people are not invisible, I burst into tears because I just, I was just holding this. There was just this tension the entire time of, like. So we're just not going to, like, talk about any of this. We're not going to acknowledge how everything is fucking is the bleakest it's been in a long time.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
There are all these different forces at play and all these different whims and so many things that, like, are beyond Comprehension. But there was just something like, fine, like finally some valve was like, turned a little bit. When someone acknowledges, like, the way that the industry is so fucking crazy in terms of developing artists, the way our current attitude towards transgender people is unacceptable. Inhumane is inhumane. Just full stop. Like, yes, Gaga, thank you.
Matt Rogers
Like, truly, thank you.
Bowen Yang
This is why. This is why I'm like, re. Energized on Gaga. Not just because of abracadabra, but because it's like, wow, she's at an award show. She is like, using this platform in the way that is has always been.
Matt Rogers
True to her as a leader, as a real leader, as a true leader and a true ally and a true icon to the queer community. And she knew that this was. I mean, not that she needs an opportunity. She knew this is.
Bowen Yang
No, no.
Matt Rogers
She knew this was her duty to do that. And it is so real. And then for her to release that song and it's not meaningful because of this, because it's meaningful on its own merits, because the song is so great and it's just so exciting and it's so Gaga. But also it does call back to a time in her career which felt like we didn't have to worry about the world hugging us back. You know what I mean? Like, it was giving that Born this Way vibe that those kinds of sounds like. It was so. It was like a hug. It was like a sweaty, euphoric Molly hug from Lady Gaga towards the queer community. And we fucking needed that. And I again, was. This is, I guess another moment from the telecast, which I guess we're considering it a part of it. But like, I was up out of my chair. I could not sit down last night watching these Grammys. I really couldn't. It was just. It's so fitting too, to come at the end of a musical year that was so honestly important because it was a one constant throughout this year was that music, you know, popular music. While we can have problems with the industry aspects of it, it really was a salve all year. And it felt like you saw the people in that room getting the credit and having some fun together. That had really been there in our ears all year, to put it in super simple terms. But it just felt good. And for her to do that was, Yes, a moment that was so necessary.
Bowen Yang
Thankful for the cuts into the audience, like whoever's in the control room. Bravo, Bravo.
Matt Rogers
You were jamming.
Bowen Yang
You were jamming. The cuts to Taylor was not too excessive. Let. Let that girl dance in peace.
Matt Rogers
I love Taylor Swift at that award show. Because you know what? She's kicking back those champagne flutes. She is putting on Janelle Monae's jacket, keeping it on all night. She's dancing around because I guess for her, it's like she might as well have fucking fun. Of course, she knows the entire world is going to judge her anyway. Sure, I'll be the only one standing up. Good.
Bowen Yang
Let her.
Matt Rogers
I hope I can get to a place in my life where I can go anywhere, and if I want to dance, I do it. That's what I'll say. I hope I dance. In the words of Leanne Womack, I'm repurposing the queen, but I hope I dance.
Bowen Yang
Or how about you flip it and go. You hope I dance. Make it a command.
Matt Rogers
How about we flip it and reverse it. We hope we dance.
Bowen Yang
Wow.
Matt Rogers
Maybe that's title of app. We hope.
Bowen Yang
We hope we dance.
Matt Rogers
That's actually good. We hope we dance. For Gaga, the category is dance or die.
Bowen Yang
Absolutely. But we just have to give a shout out to Ms. Cardboard Cowder.
Matt Rogers
Cardboard Carter, is it? I mean, that was a great moment in time and the fact that, like, no one. No. There was no little titters. There was no little laughter. We're the only stupid idiots that are making an issue of it. But Beyonce, just clean one cardboard carver deer.
Bowen Yang
Just to finally put a period on this, we need to say Captain Sheila Kelleher Burko, you are truly a legend. You were perfect. And now the nominee for album of the year. It just brings me joy. I'm truly. I just have to make myself clear. I'm not making fun of this person.
Matt Rogers
No, I just.
Bowen Yang
It brought me joy. I'm like, this is. This is who we need to uplift.
Matt Rogers
To me, I was like, my. My whole thing was like, this feels like central casting. LA Firefighters. I'm like, this woman is everything. She's holding the space.
Bowen Yang
Her hair. Yeah, the hair was perfect.
Matt Rogers
It was kind of giving throwback. It was kind of giving, you know, late 80s, early 90s country woman. It was giving Judd.
Bowen Yang
It's giving Judd. And I was thinking it's giving Judd meets Ava Max uneven sides.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Bowen Yang
Do you know what I mean? Or. It's just. She just had one. One side of the hair over the shoulder and the other behind. But I did think of my girl Ava.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I thought it was giving Judd, but you know what I'm saying? It's like.
Bowen Yang
No, it is Judd. No, I totally know what you're saying.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. There was a nod here. I mean, I think not only were most of the musical acts and album of the year going country, I think so is LA firefighters. Shiro.
Bowen Yang
Shiro. I do want to talk about this idea of righting wrongs, because I agree with that. And I also think, did we overcorrect by having these poor people from the academy be forced to apologize publicly to the Weeknd?
Matt Rogers
I think that if they felt they needed to do that, then it's good that they did that because clearly there was something wrong.
Bowen Yang
I mean, clearly.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I mean, come on. We have to give credit. Also, Sabrina took home two, and I was confronted a little bit in some group chats about people being, like, really espresso for pop vocal performance. Let me tell you something about that tasty little cookie voice. You hop on the track. That song is a hit because of her vocal. It is a warm little summer coo. And just because a vocal is not rangy does not mean it doesn't have artistic value.
Bowen Yang
It is an artistic choice to whisper like this on a song.
Matt Rogers
Yes. That is performance.
Bowen Yang
So I guess you can't stand Lana anymore if you took issue with this. This win. A coup is a choice.
Matt Rogers
A coup is a choice. That's actually roller coaster number six.
Bowen Yang
A coup is a choice.
Matt Rogers
And you know that one will be in the book. And now after every rule of culture, we're going to have to signify whether or not it's going to be in the book, which is officially happening.
Bowen Yang
Absolutely. Sabrina. I thought I did not know the reference until the next day that it was Goldie Hawn.
Matt Rogers
It was a Goldie reference.
Bowen Yang
Love that. Actually, she is. That's the thing. I'm like, the death becomes her thing. Like, it's all coming together.
Matt Rogers
Really telegenic. Doesn't really cover it, huh? Because it's another thing to hit the spot where you're supposed to stand, have the light hit you and bring joy to the world. It's another thing, too. How do I put this? So much control over the movement in her eyes. Like, beep, beep, beep. She's like a little cartoon cookie that I want a bite out of, quite frankly.
Bowen Yang
Well, you know, there is this thing going on where people are commenting on a reel and maybe a TikTok as well of Ms. Aidy Bryant on Seth Meyers recently. And a lot of the comments blowing up saying, oh, my God, she looks just like Sabrina Carpenter. And I think it's in the eyes, it's in the nose, it's in the beautiful lips. But the eyes really do have it, as they say, if you are someone who has control over where the eyes beep and boop, you are made in the shade.
Matt Rogers
You're made in the shade and you're made for TV and film. And film. What I love too, about Sabrina's performance, I love that she comes out, does espresso, does please, please, please. And then goes back to espresso like as if to comment on, no, the song's never over. This is never over. This is a movement, not a moment.
Bowen Yang
This was an earworm, a monoculture song. When people said that those weren't possible anymore.
Matt Rogers
What do you think was in her flask all night?
Bowen Yang
Hard to say. I mean, she was really loving sipping from it. And I want to say. But she kept her composure in a way that makes me go, maybe she's just doing a fun little performance.
Matt Rogers
I think it was a Jennifer Pedranty.
Bowen Yang
Malibu and diet, not Jennifer Pedranti.
Matt Rogers
You heard what I said. My girl gives Jennifer Pedranti. Okay, Sabrina and Jennifer Pedranti. I want to see that. Actors on actors.
Bowen Yang
I want to say, speaking of Sabrina, let's tie this into producer of the year Non classical goes to Dan Nigro, who is apparently working with Sabrina.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I love that.
Bowen Yang
Does that maybe add something explanatory to this little bit of gossip that Sabrina and Olivia were chit chatting last night?
Matt Rogers
I mean, first of all, if you don't think I scrutinized the video of them hugging, you'd be deeply mistaken.
Bowen Yang
Was there a hug?
Matt Rogers
There is a big hug. There was happy chatter. Because I'll tell you what the recording academy, the literal, actual recording academy does, is they put those reaction shots up like the crowd footage.
Bowen Yang
No one's safe.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Bowen Yang
I want to say that on the note of the Grammys, the recording academy kind of putting grist for the mill.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Out there. I mean, good expression.
Matt Rogers
Oh, you ate that grist for the mill, girl. Where does that have its origins?
Bowen Yang
I think from mills. I think from millwork.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
We haven't even talked about Vegas.
Matt Rogers
We haven't even touched on Vegas.
Bowen Yang
Guys, we will get to it because there's a couple more big things we need to talk about. We need to revisit Abracadabra. First of all.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, we're not done with Abracadabra. We haven't even picked up the wand or the hat. Cast your spell of night. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh, my God.
Bowen Yang
Grist through the mill real quick. It's like the academy.
Matt Rogers
Like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm sorry, I'm jumping ahead. Go say what you need to say to the recording academy.
Bowen Yang
Remember, like, when they were tweeting the day before, like, this person sitting with this person? Yeah, like that huge list of like, oh, why are they doing this? Because it's getting us excited. Because they knew that the night would be hugely eventful and interesting and I thank them.
Matt Rogers
There was a photo and it's going around as the Powerpuff Girls of Sabrina Carpenter, Chapel, Ron and Billie Eilish all together looking like three legends and slays. And I just wanted Olivia in there. I wanted to get my girl in there. I wanted a four. I wanted that picture of Kesha. Nicki Minaj, Katy Perry.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And Rihanna redone.
Bowen Yang
Right. It is also giving Charlie's Angels. And does that make Olivia the Demi Moore?
Matt Rogers
You know what? I just. All I'm saying is I. It seemed united in there, even, like, oh, my God, I can't believe I scrutinized these videos so much. But the recording academy posted them. Like, even just sort of, you know, the girls walking by each other, and it seemed civil in there, and they knew. They knew the world needed to see Harmony.
Bowen Yang
I'm just gonna put this out there, okay? And I think this is somewhat responsible of me, and I think this speaks to something. And this obsession that we have around these narratives that we form around these people.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
I'm gonna tell you firsthand, these people like each other. Okay.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
They just like each other. And I can tell you, primary sources. I'm not gonna tell you which, but you can guess, at the end of the day, these people respect and love each other, and they're all in this together. All right?
Matt Rogers
And the same is true with podcasters.
Bowen Yang
Put your weapons down.
Matt Rogers
Put your weapons down. Putcha. And because let me tell you something. Stop with all this feud about podcasters. Stop with the stuff with the feud about Matt, Bow, Kat, Pat, Joel, Kim. Stop with this feud. Dax Shepard. Y'all are always putting us in a feud with Dax Shepard.
Bowen Yang
And can we just say we love.
Matt Rogers
The man and we all know each other, okay? We hang out. We respect each other as artists.
Bowen Yang
Wait, Dan Nigro. I'm just saying that is. I mean, that's like an anointing that I think is really, really cool.
Matt Rogers
And I liked his earring.
Bowen Yang
Yes. And Amy Allen, Songwriting of the year, Songwriter of the year, non classical. This Woman, Short and Sweet. All the big tracks on Short and Sweet, along with Julia Michaels. We love Julia Michaels. I think she was. She was there last night, looked so happy, looked just so proud to represent all the work that she's done, but especially on Short and Sweet. But Amy Allen Apatow, with Rose and Bruno behind that and was Sky Riley, Smile 2. She wrote all the Smile 2 tracks.
Matt Rogers
Oh, wow. Yeah. People are really living for that.
Bowen Yang
Like, this girl is one to watch.
Matt Rogers
She's there. I mean, she's the Grammy winner for Snowwriter of the Year. And also another thing, the Billy of it all, somebody in this situation was gonna have, like, a off night in terms of taking things home.
Bowen Yang
Totally.
Matt Rogers
But the good news is for Billie Eilish is. She has nine.
Bowen Yang
Nine.
Matt Rogers
She has two Academy Awards and I think that. Isn't she a win. She was a nominee for most awards. Award for most awards at the culture Award.
Bowen Yang
So she's nominated for an lcca.
Matt Rogers
She's good on the hardware.
Bowen Yang
She's really good on the hardware. But it is.
Matt Rogers
She's got hardware, you know, coming out of her booty.
Bowen Yang
It's just tough because that is perhaps her best album and to have. No, I get it. I totally get it. No, but you're right. It's like, what would we have traded? You know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
I would have made a trade. I can pitch a trade. Here's what I'll say.
Bowen Yang
Song of the year.
Matt Rogers
Song of the Year. Give it to Billie Eilish if she's gonna go home empty handed everywhere else.
Bowen Yang
No, no, no. Record of the year. Because Song of the year is definitely not like Us.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, I'm one of them. I mean, so if you're looking at it in terms of songwriting. Yeah. I guess the reason why not like Us is as high impact is because of the writing.
Bowen Yang
But Record of the Year, I'm just saying, like just production wise birds. So come on.
Matt Rogers
That would be my trade. Just. And that's just in a world where it's less fun when those awards are one by one song.
Bowen Yang
Totally. And also in categories filled with these amazing. Stacked with these women, like it all gets split. And Kendrick does emerge out of that victorious. Which slay.
Matt Rogers
I was a little worried for Chapel there when Sabrina looked like it was going to be a Sabrina sweep. I was like, I mean, as much as I live and die for Sabrina, I was like, we can't. We have to have Chapel up there getting something. Especially after that performance. Best new artist is the perfect award for her to win because not only is she the most high impact, you know, exciting new star of the year, critically and commercially, I would, you know, wager to say. But also the way that she changes the way we talk about them and the way that just the way she's demanded respect, the way that she commanded the room last night, she, you know, it's almost like she was being given not license, but the fact that everyone in that room was down to stand up and applaud and she had Taylor fucking Swift standing up and applauding that sentiment. That is huge. It's major.
Bowen Yang
Taylor's always going to ride for like the work.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
What Chapel was saying was the work should not devastate us in this. And it's because of the record, it's because of the industry.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Like, this girl got fucking dropped. Like, it's. That's another, like, slight similarity to Gaga where it's like, oh, these are both huge visionary artists, queer artists who were fucked over by this business.
Matt Rogers
The insight into the music industry that I do have, I will say it's shocking when you realize how hard it is to make money, when you realize how much work goes into this stuff, it would shock you. It is so much harder. It's incomparable to any other section of the entertainment industry that I could see. You know what I mean? Like, speaking as someone who's written, acted, and done the music and touring thing, like, you would have to be huge to make even a little bit of money just doing recorded music. It is a harsh reality of that. And for her to get up there and do that, especially with the narrative that she's had, they should take it seriously. They should take it very seriously.
Bowen Yang
It's just a class issue that she spoke to.
Matt Rogers
And you are so right when you said that 100%. Because, of course, people who work hard for systems that can reward them with basic human dignity should be given that dignity. Yeah, it's crazy.
Bowen Yang
Speaking of people who put in the work to change something, hopefully institutionally, Charli xcx, finally a Grammy winner.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
So incredible to think, because she literally has a song about how she goes to the Grammys to be a terrorist, basically.
Matt Rogers
Yep.
Bowen Yang
Like, incredible. This is someone who, like, carved her own path, had her own vision for what she was gonna do. Dabbles between being a quote unquote mainstream pop artist, and then has, like, swung the pendulum in such a crazy, incredible way that to see her finally get rewarded in this way and to see her have this celebratory victory lap at the Grammys in a way that's like a little bit, like, gratuitous. A little bit. Like, I even was clutching my pearls a little bit. I was like, oh, this is a lot. But, like, by the end of it, I was like, that's exactly what it should have been.
Matt Rogers
It was uncompromising, which is what's been so incredible about her. It was brat. It was. It was the last. Not the last, because who's. Who's to fucking say? But it was an exclamation point on that whole fucking album cycle.
Bowen Yang
Because guess what? Even if you're still. Even if you're one of those people out there who's like, oh, I'm so over brat, like, blah, blah, blah, she makes drug use seem uncool. That's kind of built into her. Her view on this, which is this is gonna rub someone the wrong way no matter what, no matter at what time in the cycle of. And the development of this era. For me, quote unquote, it's kind of bulletproof, and I think it's brilliant.
Matt Rogers
Absolutely. I mean, I still stand that it was the album of the year. Culturally, I will always think that.
Bowen Yang
Yes, yes, I agree. I agree.
Matt Rogers
If the trade is that Beyonce gets that moment for what is essentially a career of greatness, then everything is right with the world. But they knew it too, that that was the thing that we would want to end the show on, because it was the last performance. And even if Beyonce took the award, Charlie XCX punched us in the fucking face. And that's exactly what should have happened. And her screaming at the end of it, happy birthday, Julia Fox on the Grammy Awards. I love it. That was. Yeah. Great programming.
Bowen Yang
Great programming.
Matt Rogers
When are we like this about any award show? When.
Bowen Yang
No, I know. Truly, this is. This is a rare moment and we should seize it and we should live in this for as long as possible. Charli is the fourth woman, fourth solo female artist to win best dance Electronic Album. After Madonna, Gaga, Beyonce. Crazy. She joins those people. It's crazily a category dominated by, like, by men. Aphex Twin or male Axe, Daft Punk, Chemical Brothers, Skrillex, Fred again. Which love to those people, but it is so weird that it's like you would think that women would dominate that, but let's see if it shifts at all. Like, that seems to be like a fertile ground. Even still, I will never tire of a girly pop or even a Kia putting out a dance electronic album.
Matt Rogers
No, I mean, first of all, can I just say, Charlie and Gaga are fucking gonna be our Coachella. It's. And that's just. That's. It's so soon, and it's gonna be so fucking good. Like, now, let's talk about Abracadabra, because I was texting you guys. We were in the group chat, texting, and I had, you know, walked away from the TV for a second because I figured, you know, commercial break. And I just remember looking over and seeing her in that fucking red spiked getup and knowing that Mother Monster was present and speaking. She tapped on that mic and I just texted you guys. Um, guys, look at the tv. And we.
Bowen Yang
Oh, trust me, I was already looking. But I'm like, you. I turned away for a second and then I heard her say, the category is dance or Die. And I was like, something's happening.
Matt Rogers
Well, you know what is? I know Jared and I know Jared had muted the TV because he does that during commercials. And I just needed everyone to be on the same page that she was. I thought it was just going to be a clip. I thought it was just going to be, you know, maybe 15 seconds and it to announce that there was a new single. It was the entire video and Then presented by MasterCard at the end was, did make me laugh. I did actually collapse with laughter. But wow, the visuals, they were exciting the entire time. She looks insane. The post chorus, Beau. The post chorus, are you. And now it's making me love Disease even more. And we said this when it came out that we could not wait to hear it in context. It is going to be so good in context. The way that song starts. When you hear this other song, it's just, it's gonna breathe. It's gonna really feel very good live. This is gonna be very good. Mayhem is going to be extremely canon.
Bowen Yang
She does a 30 minute extended interview with Rolling Stone about just with all the stems of disease. She's playing you the snare, the kick, the bass, all the vocals, all the everything in the stack. It's like, go and listen to this because it will open up the entire world of disease for you and you will understand it to be one of the best Gaga songs. Just trust me.
Matt Rogers
Not since the BTS featurette on the substance has there been a 30 minute explainer that's been so necessary. We haven't seen this in weeks. It's been weeks since we've seen this.
Bowen Yang
I just think Mayhem is gonna be a gaggy time for many reasons. That's all we can say.
Matt Rogers
I mean, she said, she said, I have long dreamed of a time when we could dance, of hosting a dance party in the desert. I have long dreamed. And then you do hear that dream in this music. I was like, this is, this is meant to be amongst the stars, the skies and the sands.
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
No, I, Are you kidding me? I have to see her. I have to.
Matt Rogers
She's my favorite.
Bowen Yang
I love her so much. I, I, I burst into tears last night. I burst into tears when she said trans people are not invisible. I Was like, this. This. This woman.
Matt Rogers
Yep.
Bowen Yang
This woman has been so important to us. Do you understand you. You. Of course you do.
Matt Rogers
I mean, it's just we.
Bowen Yang
We need to thank her.
Matt Rogers
It's not to be missed. It is. This is not going to. And also just her getting carried in her goofy face when she's like. How do you even describe. It's when she set her frame in the video and there she's seated and she's in her chair just, like, having a spasm. I'm like, yeah, this is the Gaga that. It's funny because she did come back with Chromatica. She gave dance pop again. And all this stuff about, like, you know, her return to the dance floor. We've talked about it. Like, we've been like, excuse me. Knock, knock, knock. We just got back from our long trip to Chromatica. We got on a spaceship and went to Chromatica. I don't understand why you don't remember this. You threw up, Mark. You threw up on the spaceship.
Bowen Yang
Right, Mark.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
But now, does it do anything for you that there are these visuals that are.
Matt Rogers
I mean, absolutely.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Because, I don't know, like, Chromatica was actually speaking to art pop a little bit in a way that I kind of loved. It was more. It was living in a more R Poppy space for me. I don't know how to describe it other than, like, brighter. Like, when you saw Stupid Love, you were like, okay, you know, this is. But this is dark, spooky haunted house Gaga. I've wanted to go back to this haunted house. I liked it.
Bowen Yang
You've long wanted to go back to this haunted house.
Matt Rogers
I like the drama. And Chromatica had drama, of course. I mean, those instrumentals that chromatica 1, 2 and 3, like, that broke up the album. It was there. But there's a vocal drama in what she's doing here. And there is a lot of characterization that is new, which is really exciting to hear from her. Like this. This vocal fry that she is using, but it's, like, placed differently. You know what I'm talking about, right?
Bowen Yang
I absolutely know what you're talking about.
Matt Rogers
She's made discoveries vocally.
Bowen Yang
Well, it's interesting that you say Chromatica is in dialogue with Artpop because I am getting the sense that mayhem is in many ways also in dialogue with Artpop. Because Abracadabra does remind me. Does seem to be a child between Aura and Venus.
Matt Rogers
Okay. I can definitely feel that. For me, it's just. It's. It's more like.
Bowen Yang
But it is giving Fame Monster, not Shysa.
Matt Rogers
It's swine. But Swine was also artpop, so you are right.
Bowen Yang
Interesting. Very interesting. I think what gave me chills to think about was if this is harkening back to the darker tracks of Born this Way and the Fame Monster. I thought, well, the Fame Monster wasn't even a full length fucking album. And if we're about to get that and I think, I love that it's ending on Die with a Smile, by the way. I think it will fit, it will work in the sequence. I just think this is, this is. This is going to be a hugely important album for us, for many people. Just, just. I just have a feeling she is having fun. She is confident, she's doing stuff. She's going to be at the SNL February 14th show at Radio City. I cannot wait to see her.
Matt Rogers
That's going to be amazing. Last time we saw Radio City was the Tony Bennett show. That iconic Tony Bennett show.
Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
March 7th. I mean, that's two days after my birthday. Mm. This is the birthday gift. This is Pisces season. Gaga, you know, it doesn't feel Pisces. It's not giving that. But just know that it will be meaningful.
Bowen Yang
Well, it's Pisces season for you and it's a Scorpio album for me. Perhaps. I would say not to center ourselves in this, but I would agree with that deeply. Paris Goebbels. Bethany Vargas, co directing this video with Gaga. Bravo. I thought it was gonna be a return to Nick Knight. Cause it felt very fame. The Eau de Parfum commercial. I don't know if you remember that where she is.
Matt Rogers
I do.
Bowen Yang
In a dark space and all these muscular men are climbing a giant version of herself. It just. There was just a lot of parallels. But the narrative of this video, I think so beautiful to me, it's just her in red. It's a battle between light and dark. And guess what? The light wins. The light wins.
Matt Rogers
And also, I mean, just the fact that like her and the dancers are just gathered there so Mother Monster can order them to play her little game. Category is Dance or Die. They dance for her and they dance. We see the routine, we see the passion, we see the dance. And then at the end they look up and Mother Monster is looking away. And then she looks at the Camera as if to say, yes, acceptable. And the last shot of the video is Gaga on the floor looking up like. And it's like, she's. You know, she's done her job. She's won.
Bowen Yang
She has not died.
Matt Rogers
She's pleased. Mother Monster. She can continue on today.
Bowen Yang
Well, Gaga has said in the last 24 hours since this video came out that this video is about a path forward.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Bowen Yang
And the only path forward, the only alternative to dying, is to what Dance.
Matt Rogers
Category is dance or die.
Bowen Yang
I don't care that I'm reading too much into this. I really don't care. There is something that is healing about me being obsessed with a Lady Gaga song like this that we are all obsessed with because she's given it to us so many times before. I feel like Rain on Me was like one of the only bright spots in that lockdown period where we were all listening to this song at the same time, and it felt incredible. I just. I can't thank her enough. I can't thank this woman enough.
Matt Rogers
It's just coming from a very commanding place, and I think that's all we really want to do, is take orders from Gaga. You know what I mean? That's ultimately what I. The only leader that I believe in as of right now is Lady Gaga.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
And she says dance or die. So that's an easy choice for me, Right, Personally. But I'm not a nihilist. I'm an optimist.
Bowen Yang
You're an optimist.
Matt Rogers
The opposite of a nihilist.
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Bowen Yang
Let's talk about another. Let's talk about Vegas.
Matt Rogers
We had fun.
Bowen Yang
We had a lot of fun, didn't we?
Matt Rogers
We had Shania on Friday, we had Mariah on Saturday, and we had Destruction on Sunday. How did you feel getting on the plane from Vegas to New York? Because my plane ride from Vegas to.
Bowen Yang
LA was tough and famously. That's a quick one.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah. It's really no big deal in the eyes of God, right?
Bowen Yang
Think about this five hour flight for me.
Matt Rogers
Willing to think about it. Willing to.
Bowen Yang
But I do feel comfortable sharing this because it did gag me.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Bowen Yang
I told you this already.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Oh, okay, good. I think, I think this, I think this is definitely fair game.
Bowen Yang
I get on my plane, I have my blinders on. Then I see at the, on my foot, at the foot of my seat, a little bottle of like hand sanitizer or something. And I was like, oh, that's not mine. I pick it up, I go to my seat partner next to me, lovely man named Michael. We got to chatting. I said, is this, excuse me, is this yours? He goes, no. I turn around, excuse me, is this Mariska Hargitay?
Matt Rogers
NBC icons on the plane?
Bowen Yang
She said, oh, that's my perfume. And we shared a laugh. She was making jokes with me.
Matt Rogers
Does she recognize the queen?
Bowen Yang
I did not want to bother her. I think she was with her wonderful daughter. And then upon de planing, we just exchanged pleasantries. She was there to see neighbor Getzi. And I was very vulnerable and shared with her that I was there to. She was like, this isn't a work week. I was like, I was there to see Shania Mariah. And she goes, oh, well, of course. So glad I got to share that with.
Matt Rogers
There were like two crowds in Vegas. There was the Nate Bargazzi stand up crowd and there was the Shania Mariah crowd. There was the Sharia law.
Bowen Yang
Shariah law. Well, There was the sharia law crowd, and there. What's the bargetsy pun that we can come up with now? We can't really. Bargetzi, bargetzi, bargetzi laughing Bargetzi pargetti.
Matt Rogers
This is why we are not Nate bargazi and there's not people making the pilgrimage to Vegas to see us.
Bowen Yang
And we can't even be clean comics. We got to put dirty words and say hole and.
Matt Rogers
And stuff. We're saying hole and for laughs. We're out here begging on the street. We're. We're destitute comedically saying hole and for laughs that we are destit comedically pathetic wastes.
Bowen Yang
It's true.
Matt Rogers
Anyway, we saw Shania on Friday. Here's what I'm going to say about the Shania show. Incredible energy from Shania. We need to get her in a better outfit, guys. She's. My girl was wearing a negligee, right? She was comfortable, but can we get an outfit on her in Vegas? Please? Dazzle us with the outfits. Come on. Don't do Shania like that in a peach negligee.
Bowen Yang
Totally.
Matt Rogers
She's saying, honey, I'm home, and I had a hard day.
Bowen Yang
But, you know, also, up, up, up can only go up from here.
Matt Rogers
How is she gonna get us good? How is she gonna get you good in a peach negligee and a top hat? Get that woman in a better outfit. I'm serious. And that's gonna be my brave take today. Okay, but because she gave us a performance and the songs are songing. Yeah, but she was in that outfit I didn't like for too long, and then the outfits got a little bit better. But this is Las Vegas. This is the Bach theater at Planet Hollywood. Okay, Right.
Bowen Yang
I will say one of the great, great songs is Man, I Feel like a Woman.
Matt Rogers
There's no disputing. I would have started with it. She ended with it. I do think, man, I feel like women at the top would have really.
Bowen Yang
Got us going, but man, I feel like a woman is the defying gravity of songs. I would say it is a man.
Matt Rogers
I feel like woman is the defying gravity of songs.
Bowen Yang
It's a war cry. It is.
Matt Rogers
That's what impressed me much. I just feel like I can never get over the dehyten between.
Bowen Yang
Okay, so you're a rocket scientist.
Matt Rogers
Okay, so he's got a car. Oh, so. Okay, so you're a rocket scientist. Okay, so he's Brad pet. Okay, so you got a car. Shania, that doesn't work comedically. We need Shania and UCB sketch 101.
Bowen Yang
So you're saying car, rocket scientist Brad Pitt or car?
Matt Rogers
This here's what I would rather. Here's what I would rather, in order. I would rather the guy I'm fucking have a car. Well, first thing I would say, even baseline living in LA have a car.
Bowen Yang
And I don't relate to that because I live in New York and most of us take public transportation.
Matt Rogers
Right. But okay, so you have. I mean, for me, it's like car is one thing you can get from place to place. Like, it's not going to be tough to see you next. I would say, okay, rocket scientist then for me, because it's like you're clearly successful. You know what I mean? I don't know that we can talk about a lot of things because I don't know anything about rocket science.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Matt Rogers
But I like that you're engaged in what you do, you know what I mean? Because I don't think you're a rocket scientist by accident. I think if you're a rocket scientist, you love rockets and everything there about you applied yourself in this way and congratulations. Would rather fuck you than someone that just had a car. And then, even though I'm concerned about like a high probability of narcissism, I can't deny Brad Pitt would be the most desirable thing for me. Matt Rogers out of those things. So that's the order I think it should go. Because I think the dick would be so good that the narcissism wouldn't matter that much. And I'm also not positive that Brad Pitt is a narcissist, but it's just that he's Brad Pitt.
Bowen Yang
Right. I mean, that woman in France or whatever gave out, gave away so much money because she thought this guy was him.
Matt Rogers
Sure. And I mean, people have given away a lot more and less. My thing with Brad Pitt is it's like we. We can go there.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
But that, that would be the natural progression for me. And I just think. I don't think it would be too tough to do. We'd have to look at the verse. But, you know, we could do it. I imagine we rewrite that don't impress me much. A hugely successful song on this episode. We just rewrite it and restructure it. Pitched to her.
Bowen Yang
She says no, which she has every right to do.
Matt Rogers
No, she. Trust me. I hope whatever.
Bowen Yang
She never has to know about us.
Matt Rogers
I hope the only word she ever says to me is no. I hope. I go upstairs and I go, shania, I Love. I hope I just hear no. Yeah, that would be fine.
Bowen Yang
Totally. I would say car. But again, I don't relate.
Matt Rogers
Because you don't necessarily need them to have a car though.
Bowen Yang
I'm gonna say something crazy.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Bowen Yang
My order. Brad Pitt.
Matt Rogers
Cause sure you don't care.
Bowen Yang
She's had. Of course I care.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Bowen Yang
She's an amazing actor, a talent, an.
Matt Rogers
I'm a looking guy.
Bowen Yang
Great looking guy. But troubled.
Matt Rogers
I would say it's too much for me.
Bowen Yang
Girl, troubled.
Matt Rogers
Let's fuck once. You know what I mean?
Bowen Yang
And it do impress at me much that it's him. But it would be more. It would be more impressive if I met you. And after you look like Brad Pitt, you also have a car in New York City. I say, wow, this guy. This guy is one to watch.
Matt Rogers
Okay, so there's Brad Pitt. There's then car.
Bowen Yang
Car.
Matt Rogers
You're saying rocket scientist is your most desirable, the greatest heightened.
Bowen Yang
Gotta be really smart.
Matt Rogers
Doesn't mean you have good stroke game.
Bowen Yang
I don't know. I think maybe I'm a sapiosexual.
Matt Rogers
I don't think you are.
Bowen Yang
Hmm.
Matt Rogers
Can I say something about you? I've never thought you were a sapiosexual for one second.
Bowen Yang
No, I'm kidding, girl. I am shallow. I really am.
Matt Rogers
If you are fucking a rocket scientist and the stroke game is on 10, we want you to be on an episode of Lost. Coach, we'll do the voice change thing on you. But if you're fucking a rocket scientist, who is the best sex of your life or anything close to it, please contact us somehow, some way. You'll find a way, I'm sure. And don't play games. Don't mess around.
Bowen Yang
Please don't mess around.
Matt Rogers
Don't fake that you're fucking a rocket scientist and don't try to find someone that is. I'm talking to people. And Bowen, I'm sure you. You agree with me here. We cut. Cut the bullshit. If you're fucking a rocket scientist and the stroke game is looking like what Dylan O'Brien does in the Sundance movie. He's in that. He just won that award for. Did you see that gif?
Bowen Yang
I did not.
Matt Rogers
Stroke game has to be on Dylan O'Brien.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Matt Rogers
Rocket scientist. Then contact last coach. We want you to come on. Not for a full episode. We'll do 10 minutes.
Bowen Yang
I will say if it is the triple crown of rocket scientist. Car. Brad Pitt. It's happening. If you're all three.
Matt Rogers
Oh, period. If you're Brad Pitt, you're a rocket scientist. And you have a car. You can fuck Lost cults.
Bowen Yang
So maybe the order doesn't matter at the end of the day.
Matt Rogers
No, no, no. Because in a world where the thing I'm thinking about is song structure, it matters deeply.
Bowen Yang
Of course. Of course. Fine.
Matt Rogers
But it don't impress on me much that I have a little sigh come out of my body every time. So you got a car? Happens at the end of that song.
Bowen Yang
I know.
Matt Rogers
I never know. I'm going into that final chorus as excited as I could be because I. I feel. I don't know.
Bowen Yang
You're right.
Matt Rogers
I'm waiting.
Bowen Yang
Brad Pitt is. You're right. On a songwriting level. On a heightened level. Absolutely. Brad Pitt is the last one. I agree with you. I think we were just. I think. I thought we were just sharing our personal values and priorities.
Matt Rogers
No, I mean, listen. And I think it's important that we did because I think it'll affect the songs that we write. And I think that now the audience knows what to expect from us a little bit better. And listen, if Shania's whole thing. And remember, she's from, like, a place in Canada that I think her town doesn't even have a name. If for her, having the car is the number one thing. Look, I don't know what the Canadian reality is. I don't know what the country Canadian reality is. If having a car is huge to her, maybe she's really excited. Maybe she's. I don't know what is. What are we going to Autophelia? Maybe Shania wants. Maybe she has a thing with cars.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, sure. Mariah Carey. And there's one more. And remind me to go back to one more thing about the Grammys that we did, a huge thing that we missed. But let's. Let's. Before I don't want to break up this.
Matt Rogers
I knew there was going to be something. I knew there was going to be something that we had missed, and I had a panic attack about it.
Bowen Yang
Simply, your jaw's going to drop. But let's talk about Mariah. Do you want to talk about Mariah? Do you want to go back to Grammys?
Matt Rogers
Let's talk about Mariah.
Bowen Yang
Okay. Mariah Carey, you are such a legend. I mean, not that we need to tell you. We already have, to your face, but seeing you live, seeing you sing these songs in chronological order of release and for you to end at Mimi is both cruel and also a testament to your genius as a songwriter and an artist and a vocalist, because there's so many other hits after that that you could have put into the set list, but you chose not to because you wanted to be. What a celebration of Mimi.
Matt Rogers
I just feel like you can't really name anyone else who can only do 40 seconds of every single one of her songs because there's so many and there's only so much time in a night. And then there's still shit, you're leaving. Being like, oh, she didn't do this, she didn't do this, she didn't do this, she didn't do this. But the fact is, next residency. How about that?
Bowen Yang
For her to mash up Honey and Heartbreaker.
Matt Rogers
That was tough for me.
Bowen Yang
That was one song that was tough. But then you go, I get it, she wants to get out of there. But those are two standalone perfect pop songs that, yes, maybe have similarities structurally or chord wise, but come on, give them their own moment. Those are so perfect. We're not telling you how to do your job, Mariah. Oh, please.
Matt Rogers
That was my mom, which is saying.
Bowen Yang
We love you so much.
Matt Rogers
The literal only thing with the whole show is she mashes up Honey and Heartbreaker. And I was like, ooh, those are both my. Those are literally my two favorites. But I'll say the songs that she did do full lengths of Always Be My Baby, Dream Lover, which, by the way, this was my one thing I'm kicking myself that I didn't say to Ariana on the episode when we had her. I think that when Mariah eventually has her Kennedy Center Honors, Ariana should sing Dream Lover. I think she would crush that. Dream Lover is so good.
Bowen Yang
So good.
Matt Rogers
It's so good. I mean. And yeah, that was a real. It was a real trip down memory lane. And you could tell that everyone there. The lamellae was just very strong. There was. That guy was there by himself. And I kept turning around, making eye contact with him because I knew that we were having the same moment.
Bowen Yang
Like, yeah, it's.
Matt Rogers
It was joy. I mean, Mariah is. It's just those songs that take you back home, really. If you're a lamb, you. That's a show you have to go to because it's only going, I think, till. Or at least this leg of it, February 15th or something.
Bowen Yang
Please go see it.
Matt Rogers
It's like a tiny little run this time. Like, I don't know what she's doing with it. I probably should, but you gotta go see Mariah do the show. Come on. It's so good. She sounds great too.
Bowen Yang
She sounds great. She's having fun. She's taking tiny ass steps. To the piano or to. Across the stage. She cannot be focused or bothered to do anything else but give you a perfect vocal. Give her. Let her walk, let her cook, let her do whatever. Because guess what? Her voice, in every sense, is a comfort. With what you just said, but also with her spoken word interstitials, I really was moved by the end when she was just saying that as an artist, the thing in life that she has learned, the biggest thing in life that she has learned as an artist is to never give up on your dreams. That nobody, no mother, father, she. Now, she just. And she just lists people who might try to take and drain that from you. Never give that up. And that is a perfect, simple, succinct message to give to anybody, to have it feel universal, have it land universally. That's what songwriting is at the end of the day. And she. Guess what? She's the best at it. So, yeah, there was.
Matt Rogers
There was that moment at the end where she was like. And nothing and nobody. No ex husband. No husband, no boss, no boyfriend, no landlord, no dentist, no clown, no president. She was. She went so far and listed so many names of people who could potentially hold a position of power over you. And she said that none of them can hold you back from your destiny. I mean, from your dream, Mariah. Because I had forgotten. I had forgotten.
Bowen Yang
We've both forgotten. And it's. Thank you, Mariah, for the reminder. We just thank you for all the ways you've enriched our life. Our lives. And I want to bring it back to Graeme's. Unless there's anything else you want to.
Matt Rogers
Say about Mariah Bowen learned the rules of baccarat.
Bowen Yang
I learned the rules of baccarat. Did not get a chance to play because the buy in is so high, but Matt and I did have fun at the blackjack table with our friends Cliff and Gustin and Riri.
Matt Rogers
And we had a wonderful unit. We had a family unit.
Bowen Yang
We had a family unit. It was a very nice. We had to karaoke. Had a blast. And then, of course, we were part of a larger group that was also there as well. Lovely. Oh, celebrating Sharia law. We know it's. We know it's Sharia. We just pronounced it Sharia.
Matt Rogers
Shariah was just, you know, it's. It's. It's a little fun thing you can do with words. It's called wordplay. If you're a Mariah fan, you know all about it. But I digress.
Bowen Yang
You said that in a very Mariah way.
Matt Rogers
I know. What can I say? You know, sometimes I get a little. Mariah. It's a moment.
Bowen Yang
This is what we forgot to talk about.
Matt Rogers
Okay, what did we literally miss?
Bowen Yang
Megan 2.0.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah. To feminine Omenon. The Megan 2.0 trailer. That's cinema.
Bowen Yang
And have you done any research at all into the plot details?
Matt Rogers
No. Is Allison Williams not around in this one?
Bowen Yang
Get ready.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Bowen Yang
Gemma, which is the character name, which is Allison Williams character.
Matt Rogers
Uh huh.
Bowen Yang
Gemma is now a writer, okay, who is criticizing the dysregulation of AI and she's a prominent voice in the sort of like we should be careful about.
Matt Rogers
AI because she knows better than anyone. She survived the events of Megan 1.0.
Bowen Yang
She survived Megan 1.0.
Matt Rogers
Barely. If you saw Megan, you know that Allison Williams barely leaves with her life. Sorry, Gemma, the character that Allison Williams plays. Because when it's Allison Williams up there, you completely forget about Allison Williams. You just see Gemma.
Bowen Yang
Absolutely. So Gemma is now a prominent voice in this movement? Yes, somehow.
Matt Rogers
Oh my God.
Bowen Yang
The technology and the sort of recursive model that Megan represented, because Megan has been discontinued. Well, certainly a defense or military contractor. I want to say. I might be butchering these details, but I this, these details are really, actually crazy. And I'm gagged and I cannot wait for this movie.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Bowen Yang
Someone with sinister motives has gotten their hands on the model, the Megan AI model, and is now putting it into their. Into a new AI named Amelia Perez. No, no, no, no, no. Don't say that name. I don't want to hear that name while I'm talking about Megan. Or ever, frankly. Amelia is the new girl. Amelia, who will be used in an army of Amelia's to basically be a weapon of war. Gemma, in an effort to stop this and stop Emelia, has to go back, reboot M3GAN and join forces with her.
Matt Rogers
You are kidding me. Gemma and Megan are gonna team up against Emilia?
Bowen Yang
Like are you like this is an amazing three dolls. I'm so excited for this movie.
Matt Rogers
No, you know what, I have to disagree with you. We have to get Emilia Perez in there.
Bowen Yang
What do you mean?
Matt Rogers
We need these cinemas to cross over. We need this cinematic universe.
Bowen Yang
No, we don't.
Matt Rogers
The PCU needs to combine with Megan.
Bowen Yang
That bitch had her fingers chopped off. She is not going to be involved in the Megan cinematic universe.
Matt Rogers
Okay, you're right.
Bowen Yang
Emilia Perez. I want no Emilia with an A.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, and it's gonna be Amelia A M E, L, I A.
Bowen Yang
Like Dimoldenburg, Emelia de Moldenburg. It's an army of Amelias. And the Only people that can stop them are Megan and Gemma.
Matt Rogers
If I was in a spelling bee and the word was Emelia, I would say, can you use that in a sentence? And one thing that they could do was Chicken Shop Date is hosted by Emilia de Moldavi.
Bowen Yang
Oh, that's good.
Matt Rogers
And what's a gag about that is Dimoldenburg isn't even the word you'd have to spell. You would have to spell Amelia because that was the question to begin with. So my question to you, Bowen, is can you spell Dimoldenburg?
Bowen Yang
Dimoldenburg. Are you gonna pull it up?
Matt Rogers
Yes. Yes. Go.
Bowen Yang
Dimoldenburg. D, I, M, O, L, D, E, N, B, E, R, G. Demolzenberg.
Matt Rogers
That is correct, yes. Akilah and the Bee. More like Bowen and the Bee.
Bowen Yang
Now, just so I have the details right, and just so I don't want to, like, mislead anybody, I'm just going to read what I have found on the Internet. Set two years after the original film, Gemma Parentheses Williams becomes author and advocate for the regulation of artificial intelligence. When a defense contractor steals the technology behind Megan and creates their own evil AI powered robot called Amelia, who is intent on taking over the world, Gemma reboots and updated M3GAN to destroy Amelia. Are you not so excited for this movie?
Matt Rogers
That's gonna be a must see. When is it coming?
Bowen Yang
It is coming out June 27, the end of Pride Month. They know the market. Our bets are in seats.
Matt Rogers
The gays are gonna be so exhausted for Pride, they're gonna need to sit down and watch a movie. That's actually so. That's really smart. They're gonna put that movie in theaters where it's traditionally seated because the gays are gonna need to be seated. Right? The gays are gonna be seated for Megan in terms of Internet slang. And they're also gonna be seeded out of necessity because they're so tired from pride. This is so smart, bro.
Bowen Yang
This is Megan level genius in the way that Megan the Doll is a genius.
Matt Rogers
But I never bet against Allison Williams.
Bowen Yang
Oh, never? When have we ever?
Matt Rogers
I literally never have. We have the Alison Williams Cool Girl Award for a reason at the LCCU's. Okay.
Bowen Yang
Which is now henceforth known as the Alison Williams Cool Girl to world. In the words of Angie Katsanevis.
Matt Rogers
Yes. Cool girl to world.
Bowen Yang
Cool girl aworld.
Matt Rogers
Have we reached out to Allison Williams about being on this podcast? I think we gotta know.
Bowen Yang
We gotta know. Well, we. We've certainly reached out. We have certainly reached out. Is all. Is all I can say we love her.
Matt Rogers
We want you to get on the show. Allison Williams, come on the show and we know you can hang. And Allison, you think you should be on the show? Come on.
Bowen Yang
Come in, June. Come on.
Matt Rogers
Lost culture for Megan 2.0. Allison Williams, challenge. That wouldn't be fair if she didn't do Lost cultureistas for Megan 2.0. That wouldn't be fair to the gays. Come on, Alison. I would hate for you to disappoint the entire gay community. That's all. I'm just gonna leave that hanging there.
Bowen Yang
She won't do that. She already isn't.
Matt Rogers
It hinges on this. Just kidding, girl.
Bowen Yang
Just kidding, girl. Cool girl world.
Matt Rogers
I hope the only word she ever says to me like Shania Twain is no.
Bowen Yang
Mmm. I think you guys would get along.
Matt Rogers
No, I think it would be great. I think it'd be best friends. I think. I think that we. Well, she's already married, so we can't be in each other's weddings. I'll think about it.
Bowen Yang
Suits you in yours for sure.
Matt Rogers
She should give a speech.
Bowen Yang
Picture yourself going for a drive. What comes to mind? Potholes, lane splitting bikers, sleepy truckers, red light runners, and distracted pedestrians crossing where they shouldn't.
Matt Rogers
The truth is the road can feel unpredictable, like it's out to get you at every turn. But it doesn't have to be that way.
Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
From forward collision avoidance assistant to Blind Spot View Monitor, our vehicles offer available features designed to help safeguard you and your loved ones.
Bowen Yang
You can change lanes with much more confidence thanks to the available Blind Spot View monitor, which actually shows you a live video feed of your blind spots.
Matt Rogers
The standard forward collision avoidance assist can help prevent or mitigate accidents by alerting you of an imminent collision and automatically applying the brakes if you don't.
Bowen Yang
Hyundai vehicles are equipped with the standard driver attention Warning system, which constantly monitors your attention levels. Once detected, it sounds alerts and visual cues to help bring you back to focus on the road.
Matt Rogers
With available class exclusive safety features, Hyundai lets you enjoy the journey with confidence, knowing that your car is working hard to help avoid the dangers of the road from getting you.
Bowen Yang
Learn more about hyundai@hyundai USA.com Call 562-314-4603 for complete details.
Matt Rogers
Hyundai vehicles have won over 120 IIHS Top Safety Awards from 2006 to 2024. As of December 2020, is your schedule crazy? Just want some me time?
Bowen Yang
Everyone could use a sanctuary from stress. Why not turn your bedroom into the space to decompress? With the IKEA selection of comfortable beds, pillows, decor, mood lighting and so much more. Every time you step in there, it's nothing but me time.
Matt Rogers
I mean you time sounds like a dream, right? Ikea is here to make your me time dreams come true. Visit them in store or at ikea-usa.com sleep to create a comfy, blissful bedroom.
Bowen Yang
Today, the White Lotus welcomes you to Thailand. The award winning HBO original series follows the exploits of various employees and guests at an exclusive Thai wellness resort over one highly transformative week.
Matt Rogers
As darker dynamics emerge, the series gradually reveals the complex truths of the seemingly picture perfect travelers, cheerful hotel employees, spirituality and idyllic locale itself.
Bowen Yang
A new season of the Emmy award winning HBO original series the White Lotus premieres February 16th at 9pm on MAX.
Matt Rogers
So Valentine's Day is coming up. You know everybody's gonna be dining out with their soulmate.
Bowen Yang
Well, not everybody. I mean, it's hard to find your soulmate.
Matt Rogers
True. But you know, it's easy to find your bullmate at Qdoba.
Bowen Yang
Ha. I follow you Bowlmate someone to share your Qdoba with.
Matt Rogers
That's right. Because everybody can get exactly what they want at Qdoba. You can create your own tacos, burritos and bowls.
Bowen Yang
And what's more romantic than always getting that famous three cheese queso and handcrafted guacamole free on your entree at Qdoba.
Matt Rogers
Right. But here's the kicker. You can get a free entree this Valentine's Day when you order an entree and drink.
Bowen Yang
Oh, one for you and one to share.
Matt Rogers
Right. And then your bowl mate becomes your soulmate. But it's only open to rewards members. So sign up in the Qdoba app and join Qdoba Rewards to redeem the offer. Valid in restaurant or online only on February 14th at participating locations.
Bowen Yang
Qdoba Rewards members only log into your.
Matt Rogers
Account or scan QR code at checkout.
Bowen Yang
One offer per member cannot combine with.
Matt Rogers
Other discounts or offers, delivery and taxes extra.
Bowen Yang
Other restrictions may apply. All right, it's time for. I don't think so, honey. This is our one minute segment where we. Oh, are you okay?
Matt Rogers
I'm never getting married. I have a total Marnie moment.
Bowen Yang
We can stop the podcast.
Matt Rogers
I'm never getting married.
Bowen Yang
Marnie gave us permission to be. To be ourselves.
Matt Rogers
Really do whatever we want. Really to be. If you want to be a music artist, you can. You think I'm not Marty Michaels, the.
Bowen Yang
Name that Marnie Michaels invents when she's at the Plaza Hotel when that couple thinks she's a sex worker.
Matt Rogers
Say it. Say it.
Bowen Yang
Magita Migita Perez.
Matt Rogers
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Megita Perez walked so Emilia Perez could run. That's actually rule of culture number 56.
Bowen Yang
Walked.
Matt Rogers
So good.
Bowen Yang
Run, stupid. Oh, my God. This. This show. Cancel us.
Matt Rogers
Okay, I. I think I have an. I don't think so, honey.
Bowen Yang
Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. And his time starts now.
Matt Rogers
I don't think so, honey. Carlos, Sophia, I think you gotta can it, hon. You gotta can it, missy. You gotta sit down. At this point, don't go on CNN and be pointing the fingers. You gotta sit down. When Zoe Saldana is at Q&As now, having to shoulder this question and calling herself saddened. Let me tell you something. To anyone out there listening, if you ever do anything that results in Zoe Saldana at a Q and A saying she saddened. I don't think so. Any add in Zoe? And how dare you? You sad. And Selina, I'm sure. And you know that she struggles. How could you do this? But, Carla, Sofia, I think what we could learn from this and imagine I had anything to learn from it. We can't all be trolls. And I think if this proves anything, it's that anyone can be a troll and everyone should be off the computer. I don't think so, honey. Emilia Perez. This is the weirdest moment of culture ever. I don't think so, honey.
Bowen Yang
And that's one minute. We've. We've really never seen anything quite like this. And Carla Sofia Gascon, why did you. No one on the movie or at Netflix told her to do this interview, by the way.
Matt Rogers
Oh, no. This seemed very of her own volition. If you don't know, now you know. Carla, Sofia, it's been unearthed, has been. Has said some tough, very bigoted racist stuff in the past. Claims are arising from her camp that a lot of it is fake. But I don't know, because she's, like, half contrite and half blaming everyone else. All I'm saying is Emilio Perez has brought so much chaos. And I'll say. I'll say this. I hope it doesn't. If she was gonna win that Oscar, Zoe, I hope this didn't mess it up for her.
Bowen Yang
Right?
Matt Rogers
Because that would be a huge bumm. Obviously, we have got a friend in the category, but, you know, like, it looks like she was gonna finally get this huge moment in her career. And it would be a shame.
Bowen Yang
It would be a shame. It's just a shame that one person can really fuck up a whole movie's campaign.
Matt Rogers
Well, when you go that far.
Bowen Yang
I know, but I'm saying, crazy.
Matt Rogers
The stuff that's out there, I mean, it's like endless, too.
Bowen Yang
And I don't even. My God, I have nothing really that trenchant to say. I'm just like.
Matt Rogers
It's just mean. It's not even stuff. It's not like someone being like, hey, let me use my voice in this, like, you know, chaotic way that's also gonna make people think it's just kind of lazy, mean, run of the mill, racist stuff and doesn't feel good.
Bowen Yang
But what you're saying in your inner thing's funny is interesting. It's like anyone can be a troll, and any troll can be an Oscar nominee. It seems like. Let's just, like, if there's a pill that can turn off that part of your brain, that thing that makes you want to tweet something insane, let's invent it. Because.
Matt Rogers
Well, it's like this weird thing where this movie is, like, all things. It's kind of an interesting microcosm when you think about Internet culture and also combining with this awards culture, because the trans community hates this movie, The Mexican community hates this movie, and it's the film. It's like the prestige film community and the industry community that loves this movie. And it's kind of like those things are at odds, and yet also now this person is being canceled for saying these things. And so weirdly, the right is, like, rallying for her, but she's trans. And it's just this very odd convergence of hot button things all around this movie that is, I will say again, bad nuts. This movie is wacko nuts. And yes, there is, like, something interesting there being said. And, like, I do think it's well performed. I think Zoe's great. I think Selena's great. I thought Carlos Sofia's performance was pretty great too. But it's just. It's so bizarre, like, as a film and as a, like, moviegoing experience that it leaves you scratching your head. And now all this extra stuff, and now it's gonna go into the Oscars. And I'll tell you what, vibes are not gonna be as high as the Grammys. The Oscars, vibes. It's amounting to be, like, one of the most bizarre, wacko years in Oscar history.
Bowen Yang
We think Mr. Michael Shulman will write another chapter in his book and also.
Matt Rogers
Wait, one more Thing. Speaking of bad vibes at the Oscars, that extended part with Will Smith last night at the Grammys. I'm sorry, who's watching that guy on television and not thinking about how he assaulted a man on tv? Who are.
Bowen Yang
Are.
Matt Rogers
Is anyone out there just like, are we just forgetting this? Also, Chris Brown won R and B album. Like, all I can make is noises.
Bowen Yang
Who is. Who's watching Will Smith go on about Quincy Jones? Supposed to introduce the celebratory moment for Quincy Jones by telling a fully boring anecdote about.
Matt Rogers
About himself.
Bowen Yang
About himself. But Quincy Jones at a snack table at Crafty being like, this should be better food. That's not. That is not meaningful. That is not a meaningful Quincy Jones contribution to the culture. I'm sorry, Mr. Smith, Quincy Jones telling you to get better craft services is not one of his most. Is not worth sharing to millions of.
Matt Rogers
People because he took care of people. And then Will Smith is like. And that's what I've striven to do my entire career. Like, making it about him. Dude, this is extra disrespectful and I'm going to mind my business, but I'm just going to say, I don't know who out there is not thinking about him hitting Chris Rock on stage when he's on television at an award show in, like, in the round in that same style. Not that wasn't in the round, but you know what I mean? It was just. It was reminiscent in a way that did make me comfortable. And I don't know who's hearing Chris Brown as a Grammy winner's name and not thinking about those pictures of Rihanna when he beat her up. But anyway, apparently there's. You know, maybe the vibes in that room were a little too good.
Bowen Yang
Hmm.
Matt Rogers
That's just. That's all I have.
Bowen Yang
I've. Yeah, I've. I've. I've. I've got something.
Matt Rogers
Okay, everyone. Bowen Yang's got something. And I'm excited about that because he's gonna show off his I don't think so honey skills right now. This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey. His time starts now.
Bowen Yang
I don't think so, honey. Las Vegas. I love you. You're such a beautiful city. There is something in the air about the casinos not understanding or knowing how they feel about theming towards Asians, where you have beautiful Lunar New Year things out, but also you have slot machines. Half of your slot machines are something called the China mystery with someone in like a little. A little straw hat or Some such, like, a rice paddy hat. Like, let's meet in the middle. At least those seem to be on opposite ends of the Orientalism spectrum. And I. I'm not saying we have to, like, clean up every weird slot machine. Like, of course, that is part of the imagination of Asian people in this country. But let's pick one or the other. Either be, like, crazy in the depiction or celebrate the year of the wood snake.
Matt Rogers
Five seconds.
Bowen Yang
I think those things coexisting is a.
Matt Rogers
Little dissonant, and that's what I mean it. Yeah. And then there was that one slot machine with the Buddha on it. And correct me if I'm wrong, it was rubbing. He was rubbing his tits together and.
Bowen Yang
Shaking his titties, which is not what Buddha does.
Matt Rogers
That didn't feel like part of Buddha's thing.
Bowen Yang
You don't. Buddha's not gonna shimmy. Buddha is gonna sit there and be perfect. I don't mind the Buddha slot machines. I don't mind the Asian slot machines. I'm not saying take every Asian slot machine. I love. Like, we were talking about Rush Hour 2, and I. Ever since that movie, I was like, I want there to be, like, a hugely bombastically Asian casino in Vegas. Unfortunately, I think the one that comes closest is the Wynn, honestly. But it's like, one or the other. You know what I mean? Like, you can't have the China mystery and.
Matt Rogers
Exactly. That one slot machine where Buddha was flipping it and reversing it. I didn't know about that one, so. But if you're noticing it, I think there's a huge problem, and I think we need to raise all of them to the ground. I'm sorry.
Bowen Yang
No, no.
Matt Rogers
Leave only the vanderpump standing.
Bowen Yang
And Bouchon.
Matt Rogers
We had the best time at Bouchon. Shout out to Bouchon.
Bowen Yang
We love Bouchon. And we had a wonderful stay at the Encore.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, we had a fabulous time.
Bowen Yang
My first time in Vegas since I was a teenager. I could finally drink, I could finally gamble. I had a great time.
Matt Rogers
And we did.
Bowen Yang
And we did.
Matt Rogers
We only bet with small numbers, but we were up. I think I was up, like, 160 bucks.
Bowen Yang
You were up. Our friend Cliff was up, up, up. We commend you, Cliff. You really made a killing.
Matt Rogers
Well, he knows what he's doing.
Bowen Yang
He really does.
Matt Rogers
At the blackjack table, I kind of just look at him, the corner of my eye, and he just, like, shakes his head or. Or he go. Or he taps the table. And I do what he says, and I'm up 160.
Bowen Yang
Well, Cliff made me realize that some of these dealers, you forget you're playing against them in blackjack. And some of these dealers don't have your best interests in mind. So anytime I ask what the dealer recommends, I have to go. Wait a minute. I'm gonna ask Cliff. Cause Cliff knows. We love you, Cliff.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. King Daddy. His shirt said the whole, whole time.
Bowen Yang
Yes, and he was right.
Matt Rogers
He was right about that. Here's what I'll say. We're going to end the episode. This was a culture catch up for the ages. So much to catch up on.
Bowen Yang
Really. Does hearken back to episode one.
Matt Rogers
I got to say, I'm saying this was the gr. The Grammys. It was the Grammys again.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I want to apologize if our voices sound a little nasal and coffish. We were in Vegas.
Bowen Yang
You're saying mine is.
Matt Rogers
No, no, no. You know what? I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have done that.
Bowen Yang
I'm sorry. No, I should. I shouldn't have done that. I didn't mean for you to.
Matt Rogers
No, I was being a bitch.
Bowen Yang
No, no. I was. I was. I was.
Matt Rogers
I don't want to ascribe this to Bowen as it's not the case. I will say my voice sounds a little bit nasal and cougish because I've been in Vegas for three days, and I'm as sick as. I'm sure everyone is listening to this because everyone in America is currently sick. Sick. I also want to implore you not to touch birds.
Bowen Yang
I implore you not to touch birds. And I implore you to clean your nails, because somehow I got a staph infection last week that ravaged. I got. I guess they're poopy nails or child's poopy nails.
Matt Rogers
Well, Bowen wipes his ass with just his hand.
Bowen Yang
Well, with my. With my. Oh, God. How did we get here?
Matt Rogers
Bet you didn't know that about my sister. He wipes his butt with just his hands.
Bowen Yang
No paper.
Matt Rogers
He goes abracadabra. Anyway, I guess that's how this episode is gonna end, with a poopy hands joke.
Bowen Yang
And we end every episode with a song.
Matt Rogers
I'm not yet off book. It's. That's really. It cost your spell on the night. We're gonna go stream it right now. We're leaving.
Bowen Yang
Bye. Las Culturistas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.
Matt Rogers
Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hazniyeh.
Bowen Yang
And produced by Becca Ramos Edited and mixed by Doug Baime and Monique Laborde.
Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
So I can't wait.
Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang – Episode Summary: "We Hope We Dance"
Released on February 5, 2025, by Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts, "We Hope We Dance" delves deep into the cultural zeitgeist, centered around the recent Grammy Awards. Hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang navigate through performances, industry insights, and personal anecdotes, offering listeners a comprehensive analysis of the event's impact on contemporary culture.
A. Best New Artist and Dochi's Impact
The episode kicks off with Matt and Bowen reflecting on the Best New Artist category, highlighting Dochi's historic win. Matt Rogers (00:00) expresses enthusiasm, stating, “Virgin Voyages... luxury... Caribbean escapes,” which segues into discussing high-value experiences that mirror the premium nature of Grammy performances.
Bowen Yang (05:02) praises Dochi’s performance, emphasizing her technical prowess and emotional delivery:
“She is historic... her sobriety journey that she's been on. This album is about that journey, and for it to be held up in that way is so cool to see what an inspiration.”
Dochi’s performance is lauded for its precision and vision, with Matt noting:
“This girl is a bazooka on stage... excellence is exactly what she's demonstrating.”
B. Beyoncé's Historic Album of the Year Win
A significant portion of the discussion centers on Beyoncé's long-awaited Album of the Year win, deemed a culmination of her 25-year illustrious career. Matt Rogers (12:15) raises a toast to Beyoncé's achievements:
“This goes out to survivor... Beyonce album of the year winner. It feels good. And it was when the world needed it the most.”
The hosts commend the Recording Academy for finally recognizing Beyoncé's consistent excellence:
“It's a 25-year journey... Beyonce is an album of the year winner, and it feels good.”
C. Mariah Carey's Performance and Reflections
Mariah Carey's performance is another focal point. The hosts dissect her setlist and stage presence, appreciating her ability to blend nostalgia with contemporary flair. Bowen Yang (72:04) remarks on Mariah’s strategic song selections:
“Seeing you live, seeing you sing these songs in chronological order... it’s a testament to your genius as a songwriter and an artist.”
Matt adds a humorous take on Mariah’s limited song selection:
“The literal only thing with the whole show is she mashes up Honey and Heartbreaker... But by the end, it was exactly what it should have been.”
A. Trans Community and Climate Change Acknowledgment
The hosts emphasize the Grammys' role in spotlighting critical social issues. Bowen Yang (17:30) appreciates Lady Gaga’s declaration that:
“Trans people are not invisible.”
Matt expands on this sentiment, linking it to broader societal shifts:
“Diversity strengthens everything, period. Our country, our world, period.”
B. The Music Industry's Challenges
Discussing the difficulties within the music industry, Matt provides an insider’s perspective:
“It is so much harder. It’s incomparable to any other section of the entertainment industry... making recorded music.”
Bowen underscores the importance of recognizing and supporting indie artists like Ray Rhea, arguing for more robust support systems:
“We need to give her more because she is such a talent.”
Transitioning from the Grammys, the conversation shifts to the highly anticipated sequel, M3GAN 2.0. Bowen Yang (77:08) shares excitement about the plot:
“Gemma and Megan are gonna team up against Emilia?”
Matt humorously envisions a crossover cinematic universe:
“We need these cinemas to cross over. We need this cinematic universe.”
They delve into plot details, highlighting the film’s exploration of AI regulation and the ethical dilemmas surrounding artificial intelligence.
Personal anecdotes about their recent trip to Las Vegas add a relatable touch to the episode. Matt Rogers (61:07) recounts an amusing encounter on a flight:
“I asked my seat partner if the hand sanitizer was his, and realized he was Mariska Hargitay.”
Bowen discusses the cultural representations in Vegas casinos, critiquing the Orientalism in slot machine designs and advocating for more authentic and respectful theming:
“Let’s pick one or the other. Either be crazy in the depiction or celebrate the year of the wood snake.”
Their Vegas narrative intertwines humor with social commentary, showcasing their unique blend of entertainment and insight.
Wrapping up, Matt and Bowen reflect on the transformative nature of the Grammys and their significance in the cultural landscape. Matt Rogers (98:17) apologizes for any nasal tones due to their Vegas stint, adding a personal and humorous note:
“I’m never getting married. I have a total Marnie moment.”
The hosts reaffirm their commitment to discussing meaningful cultural moments and invite listeners to engage with upcoming content, ensuring the episode leaves a lasting impression of both entertainment and thoughtful analysis.
Matt Rogers (05:49):
“Dochi’s performance... heartfelt... breaking barriers.”
Bowen Yang (17:15):
“It feels amazing to see trans voices being amplified at such a high-profile event.”
Matt Rogers (43:59):
“Charli XCX finally a Grammy winner... celebrating visionaries.”
Bowen Yang (70:27):
“If you’re a rocket scientist with a car, you can join us on Lost Culturistas.”
"We Hope We Dance" offers a vibrant exploration of pivotal cultural events, intertwining personal experiences with broader societal discussions. Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang expertly navigate through performances, industry analysis, and engaging banter, making this episode a must-listen for anyone keen on understanding the pulse of today's culture.