“Wealth Whispers and I’m Screaming” (w/ Gabby Windey)

Summary

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Episode: “Wealth Whispers and I’m Screaming” (w/ Gabby Windey)
Release Date: April 2, 2025

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Introduction

In this captivating episode of Las Culturistas, hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang are joined by special guest Gabby Windey for an in-depth exploration of reality television, personal mental health journeys, and the complexities of navigating fame and relationships. The conversation is rich with humor, candid insights, and profound reflections, offering listeners a comprehensive look into the cultural phenomena shaping our lives.

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Gabby's Experience on "The Traitors"

Navigating the Game: Gabby Windey shares her strategic approach to competing on the reality show The Traitors. She discusses her decisions and the interpersonal dynamics that unfolded during the game.

• Gabby Windey [02:17]: “This is insane. I love."

Authenticity vs. Strategy: The hosts delve into Gabby's balance between staying true to herself and employing game strategies to win.

• Gabby Windey [03:34]: "I went after Tony first. He was so chaotic. He has such a big heart. But you have no idea what is going on in that cute little head."
• Matt Rogers [01:50]: "We're skipping the whole pretense. Let them into your ears."

Critical Moments: Gabby recounts pivotal moments that defined her experience on the show, including her interactions with other contestants and her eventual victory.

• Matt Rogers [05:07]: "But let's go. For some reason, Britney was, like, brandishing this Karen identity towards the end of the show."
• Gabby Windey [25:03]: "She really is strategy. I'm like, how do you think that many steps ahead?"

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Mental Health and Medication

Personal Journeys: The conversation shifts to mental health, with Matt, Bowen, and Gabby openly discussing their experiences with medication and coping mechanisms.

• Gabby Windey [03:31]: “I took an Ativan last night. I woke up groggy.”
• Matt Rogers [21:43]: "I'm trying to make a concerted effort to back off the self-medicating with marijuana because it's gotten to a point, which is too much."

Imposter Syndrome: Gabby candidly addresses her struggles with imposter syndrome and how it has impacted her confidence.

• Gabby Windey [57:12]: “I have crazy imposter syndrome, and pretty much before medication, just, like, zero confidence.”

Balancing Act: Matt discusses his cautious approach to using medication, highlighting the importance of mental health management.

• Matt Rogers [22:31]: "Know what it is for me is like, this just makes me nervous because of my family history."

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Relationships and Support Systems

Support from Robbie: Gabby talks about her relationship with Robbie, emphasizing the mutual support that has been crucial in navigating the pressures of fame and personal growth.

• Gabby Windey [11:22]: “She is especially, like, in the last couple weeks, we've been so busy. She is the... I literally would not be here without. Manager sent me the sweetest text.”

Navigating Public Scrutiny: The hosts discuss how being in the public eye affects personal relationships and the importance of having a strong support system.

• Bowen Yang [08:08]: “You’re the best thing that ever came out of Aurora.”
• Matt Rogers [35:19]: “She is so smart in the end.”

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"I Don't Think So Hunt" Segment

Humorous Critiques: In this comedic segment, Matt, Bowen, and Gabby humorously critique various aspects of pop culture, from Disney villains to wireless technology.

• Matt Rogers [70:12]: “If I have to watch one more movie where the villain is yourself, I’m going to fucking lose my shit.”
• Bowen Yang [73:16]: “Wireless, cordless, Bluetooth, anything. We’ve reached the critical mass of things.”

Tech Frustrations: Gabby joins in with her playful take on the obsession with wireless gadgets and the nostalgia for corded technology.

• Gabby Windey [76:28]: “Come on in the nad. Puff. Yes. This is my cocktail.”

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Closing Thoughts

Embracing Authenticity: The episode concludes with reflections on the importance of staying true to oneself amidst external pressures and the evolving landscape of reality TV.

• Gabby Windey [54:34]: “I just hadn't seen an example. Even still, now we don't see a lot of lesbians.”

Cultural Impact: Gabby and the hosts discuss how reality TV shapes cultural perceptions and the significance of authentic representation.

• Matt Rogers [43:17]: “They need to change it up this summer. You might do a duffel.”

Final Reflections: The hosts and Gabby wrap up the conversation by emphasizing personal growth, the value of genuine connections, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery.

• Gabby Windey [84:15]: “She introduces me to culture, but I do have taste.”

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Notable Quotes

• Gabby Windey [03:31]: “I took an Ativan last night. I woke up groggy.”
• Matt Rogers [21:43]: "I'm trying to make a concerted effort to back off the self-medicating with marijuana because it's gotten to a point, which is too much."
• Matt Rogers [70:12]: “If I have to watch one more movie where the villain is yourself, I’m going to fucking lose my shit.”
• Bowen Yang [73:16]: “Wireless, cordless, Bluetooth, anything. We’ve reached the critical mass of things.”

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Conclusion

“Wealth Whispers and I’m Screaming” offers a multifaceted look into the intersections of reality television, mental health, and personal relationships. Gabby Windey’s candid discussions, combined with Matt and Bowen’s insightful commentary, provide listeners with a rich and engaging exploration of contemporary culture. Whether navigating the strategic complexities of The Traitors or addressing personal mental health challenges, this episode embodies the essence of what makes Las Culturistas a beloved cultural compass.

Transcript

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Not gonna lie, I eat the lasagna once a week, and that's a fact. When the clock strike dinner, think Stouffer's Shop now for family favorites.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Wow. Is that culture?

[Matt Rogers]

Yes. Goodness. Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Las culturistas.

[Matt Rogers]

Ding dong. Las culturistas. Calling culture sort of in the house.

[Bowen Yang]

Culture in the house. Well, this is the most precious skill to me in life, which is something that you do well. I don't think I do well. Someone who can just unfurl their mind so solo in front of a microphone.

[Matt Rogers]

Unfurl the mind are three words I didn't know I needed together until you just did that. Unfurl your mind.

[Bowen Yang]

Unfurl the mind.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Through words, through movement. It's like certain people do, like a stream of consciousness. I don't think that's what our guest does. I think there's something even more elevated where it's like, you've been told it's like slam poetry.

[Gabby Windey]

I didn't know if I was supposed to be.

[Matt Rogers]

No, come on.

[Bowen Yang]

Hold on.

[Matt Rogers]

We're skipping the whole pretense. Let them into your ears.

[Bowen Yang]

Gabby.

[Gabby Windey]

Wendy. I was like, me being privy to this. I was looking at the camera like whole, holy shit.

[Matt Rogers]

It gets weirder and weirder as we do it on camera for people to just sit there while we do the intro.

[Gabby Windey]

But get it. I loved it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

I'm like, keep going, keep going.

[Bowen Yang]

But, like, I think you do it better. Literally. I'M not kidding. Than anyone else who has ever lived.

[Gabby Windey]

This is insane. This is so crazy of you. Like, it's like not even clicking.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't you agree, though?

[Matt Rogers]

On some level.

[Bowen Yang]

Long winded. Listen to it.

[Gabby Windey]

It's like, oh, my God, thank you.

[Bowen Yang]

It's poetry what you do.

[Gabby Windey]

Thank you. I know everyone's saying that. Which, like, my cannot fit in this room right now. It's like, so insane when I winning.

[Matt Rogers]

The Traders long winded icon talk more.

[Gabby Windey]

Than, like, it doesn't even have to be about the Traders. It was Bella Hadid reposting the business hours TikTok. And then now I'm skyrocketing into the stratosphere. I'm like, I cannot be stopped you.

[Bowen Yang]

But it was like, it was bound to happen anyway. I don't think all up to Bella. You didn't need the Bella repost.

[Gabby Windey]

I don't know. Like, I mean, maybe you just. Podcasts take so long to get off their feet that I'm like, damn. Like, I don't actually know if this is clicking and people say they like it. Like, they're lying to my face. Cause you know, I've. I'm lying to everyone else's face.

[Bowen Yang]

Sure.

[Matt Rogers]

Did you lie to our face when you came lying?

[Gabby Windey]

No. Fuck no. Are you kidding?

[Matt Rogers]

Are you a traitor?

[Gabby Windey]

I'm like, no, stop. You guys are both iconic. I'm like, literally, imposter syndrome.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't. Don't be. No, literally, don't be. What are you talking about? We're like. I'm like, I got nervous for you today. Stop that you were coming.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, same. I took an Ativan last night. I woke up groggy.

[Bowen Yang]

No, not an Ativan. Not an Adamant. No.

[Gabby Windey]

But this Y is 0.25. Okay, well, listen, times two.

[Bowen Yang]

You're, like, up on your doses because you are a medical professional.

[Gabby Windey]

Right, Exactly.

[Bowen Yang]

Right. Like, I know you know all the shit.

[Matt Rogers]

You got it together in terms of MGs.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Literally via experience and experimentation.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes, I know.

[Matt Rogers]

But I. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what's the girl that will get you if you allow her to take your life. Which I did at one point. And then I was waking up every morning and just started sobbing. Melatonin.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, really?

[Matt Rogers]

Melatonin. You have to really be careful of her.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Because 10 milligrams of melatonin is now bad. A metric ton of depression.

[Gabby Windey]

Whoa. The sobbing in the morning is so real. I had. I had a breakdown over a coffee shop in the maid hotel. Because they wouldn't let me get on their. Their WI fi. I'm like, I spent $20 in carrot juice. I just need to get some work done. Looking at my computer, sobbing. I got recognized.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Gabby Windey]

But she couldn't tell because my head was down, that I was going through something. She's like, I just want to, like, let you know I'm a huge fan. Then I slowly get up with welled eyes. This is not one Sydney Sweeney tear.

[Matt Rogers]

This was a cascade of. Why didn't they let you on the WI fi? Because characters wasn't enough.

[Gabby Windey]

Because characters.

[Matt Rogers]

Characters. Cause the carrot. The amazing character that you brought in. No. Why wasn't carrot juice enough to get on the WI fi?

[Gabby Windey]

Because only hotel guests. I'm like, it's not gonna cost any more money if you let me on the WI fi. I swear. And they love to turn me down.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Gabby Windey]

But you know what? I'm like, actually, a Karen, I feel like, doesn't get as much of a response than a victim. I'm gonna cry. To elaborate on this, I'm gonna cry to your face. And then maybe they would let me on the WI fi. Whereas Karen is just, like, the wrong energy. Then they wanna fight.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

I think if I cried to them, they still wouldn't let on the wifi, but they would have broke, like the bitchy barista. 100% character.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Character. Because of the characters. Wait. You're so right. Because I don't want to start any shit.

[Gabby Windey]

Start it.

[Bowen Yang]

But let's go. For some reason, Britney was, like, brandishing this Karen identity towards the end of the show. She was like, I'll speak to the manager. And I'm like, you don't. That's not something you brag about.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I mean?

[Gabby Windey]

Totally. Dolores was calling her Karen left and right. She'll say it to her face.

[Matt Rogers]

Really?

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. And I'm like, that's Dolores.

[Bowen Yang]

That is so Dolores.

[Matt Rogers]

One of the. I almost did it as my. I don't think so, honey today. But I'm gonna do something else, which I feel more passionately about. But one of my things is, like, people are dogging Dolores for winning the traitors. And I'm like, you know what? She was so faithful that even at the end, she earned it. Because people were like, we're gonna end the game. And to still exist at the end of that whole experience and be like, we're good to share the money. Like, just like that. Lack of cutthroatness is playing the game as a faithful. Totally.

[Bowen Yang]

You can do it that way.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. It is what it is, you guys. She's at the end for a reason. Or not a reason. We're all splitting the money. It's how it ended.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

You know, it's like, I feel like it's not that deep every day. She would be like, please, traitor, kill me. She did not want to be there. So then I was like, bitch, are you a traitor? Like, why don't you. Yes. Bob the drag queen was like, are you rich or did. Did you need this money? I was like. Because at first I was like, what do you mean, rich? He's like, bob Harper rich lives next door to RuPaul.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Gabby Windey]

And I was like, no, I'm here because I need the money.

[Bowen Yang]

Ye.

[Gabby Windey]

You know, I'm not. This is on loan. Mew, mew. My money's still talking. We're not whispering. Wealth whispers. And I'm screaming, yes.

[Matt Rogers]

We're entitled about wealth whispers.

[Gabby Windey]

And I'm screaming, poetry, actually. I'm like, anyone who will listen. I still haven't got my bonus money. Oh, what? I'm $7.99 in the hole from the wedding.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my least. $799.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. That's how much the wedding costs.

[Bowen Yang]

We'll then mow you.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, my God. Thank you. I'm like, now. I'm like, no, I still need it. Give it to me.

[Matt Rogers]

How do you do it?

[Gabby Windey]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

Is that so dumb? Nom. That's so. Kill me.

[Gabby Windey]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

Why did I just offer that? I'm sorry.

[Gabby Windey]

I'll give you my Venmo. It's my dog's name and his birthday. I had to change it. Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

It's not your own name?

[Gabby Windey]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, why? Because people were charging and sending you money.

[Gabby Windey]

They found out they requested. Yeah. They're like, oh, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And then it's one bad slip of a finger, and you've given someone $2,000.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally. Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

I feel like the combination that you've experienced of Bachelor Nation being a vibe and being like, oh, little prickly, and you and I are fellow Denver folk.

[Gabby Windey]

Really?

[Bowen Yang]

I grew up in Aurora.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're the best thing to ever come out of Aurora.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

You should actually, like, print that on merch.

[Bowen Yang]

It's a rough.

[Gabby Windey]

No, it is.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a rough town of Aurora.

[Gabby Windey]

You said it, not me. And I'm like, this makes sense. Why, like, you're so funny. You're so successful.

[Bowen Yang]

Stop it.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, baby.

[Bowen Yang]

No, but wait. You were UCCs.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. You know it.

[Bowen Yang]

You know it.

[Gabby Windey]

Big shout. Out. And then were you also asking for money? Probably via Venmo. I'm like, get out of here.

[Matt Rogers]

You're not calling to say they're proud of me?

[Gabby Windey]

No. They're like, alma mater. I don't care about you.

[Matt Rogers]

Alma mater doesn't matter.

[Bowen Yang]

You're the best thing to come out of Colorado training.

[Gabby Windey]

No, actually, I don't usually own it. But you said.

[Bowen Yang]

Why would you?

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly.

[Bowen Yang]

It's like, that's where I went to conversion therapy. Facts.

[Gabby Windey]

What? You went to conversion.

[Bowen Yang]

I went to conversion therapy in Colorado Springs. We would drive down the two hours each way each week.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, my God.

[Bowen Yang]

And it was so funny. And then my dad and I ended up bonding that way.

[Gabby Windey]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

It was kind of sweet.

[Matt Rogers]

In the car rides. Isn't that like a cinematic piece?

[Gabby Windey]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

Like bonding in the car rides, driving your son to conversion therapy. They're in packed two hours.

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly. What else is there to talk about? You, like, converted him, actually. And accepting. Yes, yes.

[Bowen Yang]

But like, that is like the crucible that has forged you. Like, that is why you are like, you are iconic. Cause Colorado Springs and Broncos and Bachelor and Dancing with the Stars and now traitors.

[Gabby Windey]

Thank you. Everyone forgets Dancing with the Stars.

[Matt Rogers]

No, but you know what? Can I say something? We're sitting here with someone.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Who did a tens across the board samba to live in la Vida loca. And we've never had that before. We've never had that in a Guest.

[Gabby Windey]

My buttafogo.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Okay. And you imagine. And I winked at the camera. I had a shot at tequila for the first time in my life. My old Broncos coaches were there. Oh, my God. I was like. They were talking shit about me. They were like, where were those legs when she was on the team?

[Bowen Yang]

Stop it.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. And then I winked at the camera. I was like two stepping. And then I shot him a wink. And that was.

[Matt Rogers]

You gave it to him?

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. That's what got me my 10.

[Matt Rogers]

I scored a 40. Out of 40.

[Bowen Yang]

40 out of 40. What was the moment when Buble did not give you a 10?

[Gabby Windey]

What do you think of the talking mad shit on Michael Buble? First of all, this is not the first, second, third, or fourth time. I will also scream it. Michael Buble is beyond dead to me. Beyond. He like, literally, I fucked me. Looked me up and down on the way to my trailer. You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm for sure getting a 10 out of this.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. There's no way.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Do you think he was trying to.

[Matt Rogers]

Flirt by giving you an iron I don't know.

[Gabby Windey]

That is not the way to flirt with me. I don't do that. Yes, I like the love bomb. I like. I'm all for it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Was that part of the courtship with Robbie, your now wife?

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. What Came on to who?

[Matt Rogers]

Tell us the love coming on to who?

[Gabby Windey]

You know what the thing is with love bombing is? It's like, it's only love bombing if you don't like it.

[Matt Rogers]

You're right. That's a rule culture.

[Bowen Yang]

That's a rule culture number 75.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what the thing is with love bombing? It's only love bombing if you don't like him.

[Gabby Windey]

Right. Once you decide you don't like him, then you're like, fuck you. You love bombing forever, to be clear. But if you like it, you'll get married in Vegas and it's the love of your life. Congratulations.

[Matt Rogers]

But it's beyond love. Bummer now. It's been a while.

[Gabby Windey]

It's been a while. She is especially, like, in the last couple weeks, we've been so busy. She is the. I literally would not be here without. Manager sent me the sweetest text. He's like, you are becoming so successful because of the people you surround yourself with. Like, it's just a testament to literally, Robbie. Like, she is incredible. Not one jealous bone in her body. She's like, you're my girl. A man could never. Like, I've dated those. And just her sheer, genuine joy for me. Like, I check in on her every day. I'm like, are you sure this is okay? Like, I do want to prioritize our relationship above all. And I know she's the same. So, like, love bombing or not, like, lay it me. She's like, why are you calling me a love bomb?

[Matt Rogers]

But it's not a love bomb across the outlet.

[Bowen Yang]

You want it?

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait.

[Matt Rogers]

But it's interesting that you bring that up because it's like, famously, you went on the Bachelor, and my question is, for anyone that really goes on the Bachelor, how genuine was that? Like, where was your head at? What was your state of mind going into the Bachelor? Is it, I'm going to find the man of my dreams and roll the dice on this? Or were you a fan of the show?

[Bowen Yang]

What was the vibe?

[Gabby Windey]

I fucked. You know, I was like, I'm here.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

You're like, I fucked with exam. Fucked him. It's like, I know what I'm supposed to do. And, like. And the whole time I was thinking, it's me, you know?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

I'm like, why can't I have a relationship. I was obviously dating, like, the wrong gender. So I was like, this is it. I'm at the age, I've done the work. I can fall in love with this toe looking ass, you know, skinny jean wearing. This is my guy.

[Matt Rogers]

So when you get out of the car and you see him, is there something that happens because you're on the Bachelor where you're like, is it something, like, in your brain that makes him an object of affection? Because now you look back and you're like, nah, totally.

[Gabby Windey]

Have you seen his dancing videos? Oh, my God, they will make you run. I'm gonna send you one. And you wish you didn't have eyes. Oh, like, there. But there is people who are like, did the producers manipulate you? I'm like, I manipulated myself.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Like, you're in an environment. The competition aspect is huge. You're gaslighting yourself. That's all you talk about in interviews. So you're like, man, I really am in love with him. Like, I can do this. Thank God I escaped that by the skin of my teeth.

[Matt Rogers]

I know. And then told him to fuck off at the end when he wanted to walk you out. Yeah, no, that's.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. My face full of disdain. I'm like, how did I do that?

[Matt Rogers]

Do you think it was that moment that secured you the Bachelorette offer? Because you. Because you kind of were just like, well, we've never really had someone be.

[Gabby Windey]

This flavor of fuck off toad, I definitely thought. But nobody else did, including the producers. I went into my interviews because I interview a lot of, like, women for the Bachelorette and I was texting my producer, who we have a really good relationship with, and I was like, what, do I have this in the bag? Like, what do you mean they're interviewing anyone else? Like, I'm sure, just because they have to. And, like, lo and behold that, like, it was not going to be me for a long time. I'm like, what news to me?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Were they just going to have Rachel?

[Gabby Windey]

I think so. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

But then overall, can you, like, average out the whole experience across, like, the entirety of the Bachelor run? Are you, like, glad I did it?

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

No regrets?

[Gabby Windey]

Absolutely.

[Bowen Yang]

There you go. That's great.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You know what I mean?

[Gabby Windey]

I'm like, I would do it for the accommodations alone. First class, great champagne, penthouse. The Bachelor is the one show that I've been on that has treated us really like stars. Like the full thing. Yes. Like trailers, glam every day. Great accommodation. Yeah. So leaving that, I'm like, what is this, right?

[Bowen Yang]

Because I feel like there's little things trickling out of Traitor's production where it's like, oh, no. We all stay at the hotel next to the airport.

[Gabby Windey]

I cannot confirm. I didn't.

[Matt Rogers]

And we love Peacock and we just.

[Gabby Windey]

Wanna say it's all love.

[Matt Rogers]

You guys are Culture Awards winners for best streaming service.

[Bowen Yang]

How.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm coming.

[Gabby Windey]

You know how.

[Bowen Yang]

We love you, sir.

[Matt Rogers]

But we know he wasn't staying in a daisy.

[Bowen Yang]

He was staying in a daisy.

[Gabby Windey]

No. I may or may not supposed to be saying this, but we stayed in the castle and I will die on that hill.

[Matt Rogers]

We stayed in the castle and basically, like, that really was you getting ready for bed, right?

[Gabby Windey]

In the.

[Matt Rogers]

In the B roll.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Full face and makeup. They told me to jade roll my. And I thought they were going to slow it down, but I was like, that is not how you Jade roll.

[Matt Rogers]

My favorite thing that's ever happened in the history of the Traitors is at one point, the Traders are discussing in the second season, murdering Larsa, and she's reading a book and she flips at least 13 pages in once. They were like, larsa, read the book.

[Gabby Windey]

We're like, larsa don't play. Yes. We're like, get on your selfies, get on your feet. Only fans. This is not for pleasure.

[Bowen Yang]

Breaking the foot money.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Good for her.

[Gabby Windey]

I'm a Stan of Real Housewives of Miami.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

Thank you for saying that. We think it's top three.

[Bowen Yang]

Absolutely.

[Matt Rogers]

A couple seasons ago was, like, unbelievable. Last year was iffy. But we love Salt Lake. We love Miami.

[Bowen Yang]

Glad Atlanta's back.

[Matt Rogers]

Glad Atlanta's back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Jersey, obviously. Dolo.

[Matt Rogers]

Love Jersey.

[Gabby Windey]

Jersey. Yes. Yes. She was my number one. She's what got me into the franchise.

[Matt Rogers]

Me too.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Literally same. She reminds me of all my mom's friends. I don't know how to explain it. She's like, so, like, down to the earth and salt of the earth. And there's something about, like, the loyalty thing, which I don't ascribe to kind of at all. I think if you demand loyalty, it's a huge red flag. But with her, I'm like, I know it's authentic to you, and therefore I will ride for you with this value.

[Gabby Windey]

I completely agree. You said it perfectly. I am ride or die if I with you. But also, I'm not. That's different.

[Bowen Yang]

Or die is not the same as, like, I'm. I can't explain it.

[Gabby Windey]

I. The demanding loyalty you put perfectly. Yeah. It's like, yes. That you cannot go into a relationship with expectations.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Gabby Windey]

Because then it's not genuine. So I don't really demand loyalty maybe. I don't know.

[Matt Rogers]

Because it means you're going to do something fucked up. It's like, it's like if I'm coming out here being like I demand loyalty from you, I'm like, okay, what's going to be the gun to my head situation.

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

That you're insinuating will be in at some point in time that I need to ride for you despite anything.

[Bowen Yang]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't love that.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. They're waiting for you to fuck up.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's my opinion about what Teresa Giudice does on New Jersey.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, Dolores.

[Matt Rogers]

Not to wade into it but like that's my one thing with Dolores is I'm like, I, I understand this is a core value straddling the line a little too much. But sometimes you gotta call it the way you see it.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh yeah. Teresa is such a liability. The fact that Dolores can stick with her. I'm like, damn, girl, she's loyal.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean, ye.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Were you when you're in the Traders Because I would imagine you're like, you're obviously a huge fan of reality tv. Like did you watch the gamer type shows? Like are you a Survivor person?

[Gabby Windey]

No. When Boston Rob came in and everyone like shit their pants or like got wet. Yes. And like have seen like old tiktoks of him where he had like mad swag and that accent. I had no idea. I'm like, who's this backwards at looking ass? Like I'm not, I don't care about him. But no, I didn't watch any like gamer stuff. I quickly learned.

[Bowen Yang]

You quickly learned. I don't think it held you back. Like, I mean, did it clearly not right?

[Gabby Windey]

No. Yeah. I went after Tony first.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

He was just like, he was so chaotic. He has such a big heart. But you have no idea what is going on in that cute little head. Yeah. And I'm like, he's gotta go. So.

[Matt Rogers]

Especially because he's like, all you need to hear is he's a two time winner of Survivor and you're like, we'll get him out.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. And all the gamers do it to themselves because they come in being like, I want to be a traitor so bad and I would be the first to be recruited. So like, I'm curious how other seasons are gonna go. I feel like they need a traitor season of like just gamers and just like dumb reality. Yeah. Or.

[Bowen Yang]

And then another one of Just, just. We'll call them normies, like non TV folks. Because now that UK is back, it's.

[Gabby Windey]

Like, oh, that pops off. They love the civilians.

[Matt Rogers]

So do you watch the International Trader Seasons?

[Gabby Windey]

No. You might.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, there's like, like an incredible season of Australia. I think it's Australia season one. And then there's UK series one and three, which I just finished. You'll have like, a really different appreciation for it when you see. Cause there's no reality people at all. It's just like kind of normies that they cast. Yeah, but there's something about it when. And this speaks to you as well, when these people really need the money.

[Gabby Windey]

That's the thing. The stakes are not high enough for us. For some people, like, that's why, like, when Danielle at the reunion was like, I was doing anything I can for the money. I'm like, respect?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. 100%.

[Gabby Windey]

Swear on your grandchildren. I'm not your grandkid. I don't know what they're gonna think when you go home to them and have your first dinner. Like, I'd be like, damn, grandma. But. But, like, good for you. Like, I've done like, you know, way more for less.

[Bowen Yang]

For less.

[Gabby Windey]

I'm begging you for 7.99 and he'll give it. Please don't.

[Matt Rogers]

I'll supplement.

[Gabby Windey]

No, I'll give a split of it.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, great.

[Matt Rogers]

Perfect.

[Gabby Windey]

No, no, I cannot. I'm gonna have to give it to someone who's like, begging for money.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

College tuition. I'm like, I'm not Nicki Minaj. I'm sorry, but weddings, like, not yet. One day, you are the next.

[Bowen Yang]

Nikki, you kind of.

[Matt Rogers]

Gabby.

[Gabby Windey]

You don't think so? I don't. It's a lot of pressure. I'm like, now that I'm growing, I'm like, fuck, you guys. You're not gonna like it here all the time. Like, I swear I need the bar to be so low.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, it's not about where the bar. It's not about a vertical level of the bar. It's about a horizontal placement. Because you are showing. You're literally, like, telling us, like, what your medication doses are on your pot. You know, you're being real as fuck and people are loving you for it.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Honestly. And this sounds like, trite, but it's like. Because I wish somebody else did that. And some people do that on TikTok, which is why I started, because there's so much stigma still. Like, when I was in my 20s, that's when I really needed to Be medicated. Well, and now I'm like. I act like I'm fixed, but it's like, no, because I'm medicated.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, a version of fixing.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, totally. But nobody talked about it.

[Bowen Yang]

Right?

[Gabby Windey]

You know, it was so taboo. Now I meet someone, I'm like, what meds are you on? Yeah, because we're all on. What meds are you on?

[Matt Rogers]

I was on Lexapro.

[Bowen Yang]

I just re. Adderall.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes, love.

[Matt Rogers]

So actually I had a real moment yesterday where I was like, I showed up to a place I was supposed to go and, like, socialize, and I realized I was too high. And I was like, wait, I didn't need to be, like, so stoned to be here. So now I'm like, trying to make a concerted effort to actually back off the self medicating with marijuana because it's gotten to a point, which is too much.

[Gabby Windey]

I did that. I went through the same thing. And you'll be happy because you're like, why do I have to, like, put myself through this? You know, it's like self sabotage in a way.

[Matt Rogers]

Know what it is for me is like, this just makes me nervous because of my, like, family history. But it's like when I start forgetting things, I'm like, pull the plug. Like, like, don't do anything to your brain where you could, like, create holes in it and or whatever. Like, it's just what I'm on this week right now is it's like every time I even, like a thought leaves my mind and it won't come back, I'm like, well, it's because I absolutely fry my brain and this is not my own doing.

[Gabby Windey]

And I'm like, where's the genetic testing? I know it's early on. I was like, I have the diet. I have to eat clean.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I become a vegan and, like, change my literal life. I start becoming Dillon Efron. Down to earth.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

I can't with the activities he gets into. By the way, his B roll in the castle was just him shirtless over here, him shirtless over there.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally everywhere.

[Matt Rogers]

Hanging from the ceiling.

[Gabby Windey]

I know, I'm the real estate of his biceps. I'm like, what about the real estate of, like, my nipples? Like, come on. Would you, like, might get a nip slip? And don't tell me. I want it to be out. That is intentional. Oh. I'm like, come on. Like, the women have to, like, be smart, be funny, serve looks and be smart. And he just has to. I mean, the amount of abs he has Is insane.

[Matt Rogers]

I feel like the six pack, it's 16 or something.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like. It's like a fully shredded. And he's so. He's actually so thin.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, it's like the V. Sure. But it's like beyond that. It's like. It's like a really sculpted, perfected male.

[Bowen Yang]

Physique in the chest, little waist. It's.

[Matt Rogers]

It's Efron face.

[Bowen Yang]

Efron face.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Ugh.

[Gabby Windey]

I know. I'm like, come on, you guys. Come, come.

[Matt Rogers]

Was there any part of you that was like, look at him hanging from that thing.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. No. Like, wait, when he got miked, like, me and Bob the Drag queen would be like.

[Matt Rogers]

That sucked that Bob was gone so long.

[Gabby Windey]

We were so close. Like, you the like, bts that Alan Post. It's just me turning around, like, looking up at him. He'd be like, get away from me. Like, I'm so clingy when I like someone. So I would just, like, follow him around. And he's like, please, get away from me. Which is why I was so surprised that he was a traitor. But I'm like, we never talked about the game. We always talked about. I was like, I don't give a fuck, like, who you think is a traitor. Like, I just want to hang.

[Matt Rogers]

Right. That honestly probably helped you though, right? For the first, like, at least half of it is like, you know, being an old person, making your authentic connections. And then all of a sudden, it's like you snapped into a game mode when you kind of had to.

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly. Which you kind of knew going in, you know. You know, everything's a social game. It's like, you have to be able to pivot. That's the strategy. They're like, you had an alliance. It's like. But I knew it wasn't going to last. It's like, people are going to fall off. You're going to be alone at some point, and then it's kind of going to be easier because nothing's personal. But it's like, I feel like you should just understand that. Right. It's just like innate. It's wife.

[Bowen Yang]

Totally. It only this season got personal within the traitors.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

In a way that was like, oh, this is a little ugly.

[Gabby Windey]

I agree.

[Matt Rogers]

In a way that you gagged watching that.

[Gabby Windey]

Insane. When Carolyn in the turret. This I'll never forget when they were like, who should we go after? Who should we go after? And she was like, Danielle. Like, just the three of them pointing across her and like the Audacity like, is incredible.

[Matt Rogers]

That has to be so wild to be on. Literally participating in a reality show, and more than half of it is happening in a place that you can't see. And then you really, like, I guess you didn't really understand what the show was giving until it was on.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, I knew they were taking up so much screen time. I knew there was, like, a subplot and a plot, and I'm like, fuck you. Like, I just want some. Please share. Every day when we would get, like, d min, the eps would come in like, jaw on the floor. This is the best television we've ever seen. I'm like, I know it's not because of us.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Gabby Windey]

I know it's not because of the faith.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm surprised they even said that.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, they were freaking out almost every night. They knew. I'm like, are you lying to us at this point? But it's like. Cause we didn't know what was going on in the turret.

[Bowen Yang]

But that gasses you up in a way that makes you a little suspicious. And you're like, okay, well, something's happening behind a veil that we're not privy to.

[Gabby Windey]

We knew they were drama the whole time. I'm like, you guys are giving, so I need to go into my interviews. Do you guys do nad? I have heard of it.

[Bowen Yang]

What's d? Nad?

[Gabby Windey]

Nad. Nad. Nad.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, oh, I love it. If you feel like you can lift a car after you.

[Gabby Windey]

I question the legality because I'm like, I'm here week after week, like, I'm a fiend. This is the substance. But you could.

[Bowen Yang]

This is the substance.

[Matt Rogers]

You want it?

[Gabby Windey]

No. But you didn't know where this was.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm fine with you. I'm hanging on here.

[Bowen Yang]

Everywhere.

[Gabby Windey]

Okay, so there's like, a nasal spray. It's legal in the uk. I've gotten it in the uk. So I got the nasal spray. It's so strong. I did it up my nose before my promos. My. My blood vessel blue. I had a red eye. I'm like, something's gotta change. So I was squirting it in the back of my mouth. I would. I would dope nad before every interview so I could be, like, talking like, you, Dylan Efrain. Like, come on his head so far up my ass, he can't see straight. Like, oh, yeah. And before the round table.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, before the round table.

[Gabby Windey]

It helps you think.

[Matt Rogers]

You are doping.

[Gabby Windey]

I was doping. It lasts, like, 20 minutes, but that's enough to get you through the beginning, which is, like, the Most nervous you are when.

[Bowen Yang]

Like when the seals are being broken on who's. Who's being spotlit this week or something. And so I always felt like your presence at roundtable was so measured, and I guess that's. Are you saying that's why you were.

[Gabby Windey]

So, like, clear that and propranolol.

[Bowen Yang]

Uh huh. Crossing your arms.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. I was like, yes. My heart rate's in the 40s. I'm feeling good. Oh, maybe 38. I can think so clearly. Yeah. I was like, come for me. They're like, you should be a lawyer. I'm like, I'm drugged up. Like, this is what anybody needs if they want to be a lawyer.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Which. My. Everyone who's listening to this, it's not a benzo.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Gabby Windey]

You know, it doesn't affect your. It just makes you think clearly. So there is still a skill. I am not attributing all of this. I haven't had NAD in 10 days.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what?

[Gabby Windey]

Like, I will say, come on, come on, give me some credit.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm telling you, I know I've had.

[Bowen Yang]

It through the iv.

[Matt Rogers]

The liquid iv.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes, yes.

[Matt Rogers]

So there's an option you can do which is like exclusively NAD plus. And it literally takes about. It took me about two hours to get through the bag.

[Gabby Windey]

It's brutal.

[Matt Rogers]

You lay there and you feel like there's like a million pounds on you. I'm telling you, when you get up, this is the only time I've really understood, you know when they say, like, a new mom can lift a car for babies under a car, by the way, a scenario that I'm like, who came up with that? Like, why was the baby under a car?

[Gabby Windey]

I'm like, that's me on prednisone.

[Matt Rogers]

Literally. But like, you do the energy. You are the. You are mother.

[Bowen Yang]

Your mother. Yeah, absolutely.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Everybody has been there. Traffic was a nightmare. You got home late and your dinner plans are out the window. And you hear the inevitable tiny voice saying, I'm hungry.

[Matt Rogers]

That's when dinner dread sets in. What are you going to make tonight?

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Especially me. With the lasagna, maybe some chicken enchiladas. Spaghetti with meat sauce is always A winner. Or how about some cheesy chicken and broccoli pasta? Bake? Yes, please.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Gabby Windey]

Take hours?

[Matt Rogers]

Is it actually that long?

[Gabby Windey]

Hours? Like maybe we don't have like time at all, but it's I would say pushing two hours, maybe two and a half, three.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

So when it seems like someone is voting for something really random, like, let's just say a lot of Dolores votes, it wasn't that they were like necessarily super random because I would imagine the person that she's written down has gotten time at that round.

[Gabby Windey]

Not the case for Dolores, but the case for everybody else that you may see voting random. Like all the times Dylan voted for me, we were going head to head.

[Bowen Yang]

Really?

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And they cut all that.

[Gabby Windey]

All of it. I ate him alive. Which is probably why they did.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, they wanted him to be the golden boy.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

So. But yeah, we really went head. I'm like, come on. Like, that wasn't. Danielle was not my only good round table. Sure, I had a bunch.

[Matt Rogers]

You did eat that round table up.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Every production would text us every week being like, how'd you like the episode? I'm like, where am I?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

They're like, you're in it, Gabby. Like, you're doing it.

[Matt Rogers]

Remember that you did win.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. People on social media love you. And I'm like, more. It can never be enough.

[Matt Rogers]

Where am I?

[Bowen Yang]

What did you say to Dylan? What got caught? Can you reveal?

[Gabby Windey]

Like, do you remember? You probably don't. In the teaser at the beginning of the season, before it started, I was like, watch your cocky attitude, because it's gonna get you in trouble.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. He was accusing me because he had just gotten Bob the Drag Queen out with the help of Boston Rob. Like, a lot of it. It is some, like, whatever, intuition, strategy. But a lot of it is people are like, the game plays itself, which I really believe. But, yeah, you know, I pulled all the cards. I'm like, you're coming after me because my personality. Because you never met a woman like me.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh. Period.

[Gabby Windey]

Actually, I think. I don't know if that's true.

[Matt Rogers]

And a little bit of honesty.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yes. A little bit of everything can exist. It doesn't mean I'm a traitor manipulator, because my tits and my ass are out. That is the definition of misogyny.

[Matt Rogers]

There you go. I wish you would give it in a lesson.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally. And he is so sweet.

[Matt Rogers]

I know. He's literally.

[Gabby Windey]

He's just an easy scapegoat. Cause whenever I talk to Dylan, it's all of the men. You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

You are a standard.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Dylan does kind of accomplish so much. He is like, he can be the hero. There was a moment when he was going after. When he was, like, going after Bob the Drag Queen in a way that I was like, no, no, no, don't go after Bob. Where I started to see him as a villain. But then he would become this easy stand in for, like, all the males on the cast. Like, he just. He's so flexible as a character on this show.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

In a way, that is good. I think.

[Gabby Windey]

Totally. It was. There was no question ever that he wasn't a faithful. And he really does his brain because he loves those game shows. He really is strategy. I'm like, how do you think that many steps ahead? And a lot of times he was right.

[Bowen Yang]

He was so right.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Even, like, down at the end with the whole Britney thing when Danielle, like, you know, had something nice to say to everybody except Britney. I'm just like, that. That is so perceptive.

[Gabby Windey]

I thought that was up of her.

[Matt Rogers]

Because it was literally giving Britney Away. I was like, in a way it's like, I don't know what they say. And I'm also not one of those people who's like dunking on Danielle constantly. Cuz I think she's gotten a lot of abuse and I really don't think it's fair. But my thing with that was I was just like. Like you kind of did give away that it's her because in insinuating that she betrayed you.

[Gabby Windey]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

The only way she could be in that position is if she, she had knowledge that she then betrayed.

[Gabby Windey]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

So that was. Tipped it a little far from me.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. The whole thing, once the recruit or like suspected recruit happened where like there goes Britney. There was just no other option really. She should have went for like Dylan or something because then it would have been a little more confusing, but it was just like too obvious. And then Britney changed. Like when Dylan was like, Britney's acting now. I'm like, damn, I'm not giving you enough credit, Dylan. I'm like, why do you have to say that? But it's real.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it's really real. Like I love wonder, would you do like an all star season?

[Gabby Windey]

I know, I'm like, it's too early to say cause I haven't got my money yet.

[Matt Rogers]

I can't believe you haven't gotten the money.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally once I get it pre tax, come on my account, we'll figure it out. Yes. Don't hit the UK taxes and then the US like a bonus, you know, but. But I don't know, part of it. It was like the most fun show I've done to watch back.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh great.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. And it's just like, it's pretty innocent. There's not a lot but. But filming was way more stressful than it led on. But I think doing it the second time around you have more experience.

[Bowen Yang]

I mean you are like getting hung out of like a helicopter by the end. Which is crazy.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh my God. I freaked out. I'm like, you're not letting me say goodbye to my family.

[Bowen Yang]

Right?

[Gabby Windey]

You are liable. I know Dylan's gonna cut this rope like any at any second he gets. I was literally buckled in by one buckle. I'm like, is there any other buckles? They're like, no, I'm not going anywhere. But at least give me like some kind of a psychological safety because it was a huge buckle. They know what they're doing. They're like, we promise, Promise it's safe. I'm like, by concept, this is not safe in any stretch of the imagination. I will not recommend it to anybody. I'm like, I have a fully formed frontal lobe and amygdala. So you're fear center. So, like, you're just not getting me. I came back and Brittany and Dolores were like, how was it? I'm like, really?

[Matt Rogers]

I was surprised Dolores went up there.

[Bowen Yang]

To be honest with you.

[Gabby Windey]

Same. And Britney. Yeah, yeah. Riddled with fear.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait. There was also that part where it was like, when Dolores was partnered with God lover Chrishell. With the. With the bugs.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And, like, Chrishell pulled out right away. I was watching it, being like, dolo. You would have lasted two more minutes. I know you for watching you for years on that show, I think.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

This partnership was not built to last. The bug challenge, right?

[Gabby Windey]

No. She was like, I picked the wrong partner. I'm like, I beg to differ. I think you picked the right one.

[Matt Rogers]

You guys went out of there quick.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, who's your partner again?

[Gabby Windey]

Carolyn.

[Bowen Yang]

And you guys made it through?

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, we did. I was like, carolyn, I'm so ready to go whenever you are. I just don't want it to be my fault. Want anything. And she was like, let's keep going. I'm like, but it was kind of like, it was a big moment. People were like, I'm so proud of you. I'm like, saying, fuck those maggots.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Pervert. And my tits.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, they really.

[Gabby Windey]

Everywhere.

[Bowen Yang]

Everywhere.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

What about Carolyn? Like, were you as scooped as everyone? When she ultimately was a traitor, were you on. Did you ever think that before it was happening?

[Gabby Windey]

No, Only that day, it was like after the chessboard challenge, where she was kind of giving away too much, and other people brought it to me. I'm like, oh, damn. I could see it. Cause it was same as Bob the Drag Queen. We just didn't talk about the game.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

And she didn't manipulate or try and lie to anyone. She was just like, what do you think? What do you think? So I never thought anything of it. I didn't totally think she was a faithful. I'm like, I'll figure this out later. But, like, I'm sharing her vape. Like, we're having a good time.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, you can have the vape.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, amazing.

[Gabby Windey]

You're not allowed to share it, but I was puffing, puffing. I'm like, come on in the nad. Puff. Yes. This is my cocktail. Go fucking cruising at the round table.

[Bowen Yang]

I am obsessed.

[Matt Rogers]

No notes on the way you prepare.

[Gabby Windey]

No. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

An iconic turn. So, yeah, I mean, well done. Congratulations. I think it's time to ask out any questions.

[Matt Rogers]

Absolutely, 100%. So this is when we ask, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you?

[Gabby Windey]

Honestly, girls.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Come on.

[Gabby Windey]

You're right.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what's crazy? That it got it right in the moment as it was airing and as you watch it now, looking back, I mean, we were like New Yorkers at that era. Like that. Relatively a little bit younger than. Close to their age. It is aging. Like, a fine one.

[Bowen Yang]

Yep.

[Gabby Windey]

I agree. I totally agree. And when you rewatch it, you, like, understand how you've changed. Oh, yeah, but it's so good. I'm like, fuck. Jess is a pick me. But, like, yes. When I watched it the first time, I wanted to be her because I'm a pick me. I mean, there's no character that you don't hate. Yeah, well, you. Yes, but it's like you love him and you hate him. Marnie.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, that was me.

[Gabby Windey]

Work of art.

[Bowen Yang]

Work of art.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

That was unfortunately me. And I remember you had. Remember when Mike Spence had. On your door, it was a sign. When you would leave Bowen's apartment, there was a sign that said, don't be Marnie.

[Bowen Yang]

Don't be Marnie. Yes. Yes. Oh, my God. There was a sign in my apartment.

[Matt Rogers]

I'll never forget it.

[Gabby Windey]

Cause you're like, that's me. Unfortunately.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I literally. It could be all of us.

[Bowen Yang]

But the thing is, it could be all of us.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

That was what was so genius about those four characters. It was like, it called. Called Back to Sex and the City in a way where it was like you could watch the show and see yourself in all of them. But this was like the Alti, like, Brooklyn, like, nouveau version of what that show was. It was like, yet again, we've done it. These are, like, more explicitly unsavory people, and what they do is, like, worse and spoke to the time a little bit more. But it was a perfect sequel to that show where you.

[Bowen Yang]

I think. And this is a compliment because I think she's the least unlikable one. I think you're a full shoesh.

[Gabby Windey]

I love Shoosh.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yeah. She's kind of kooky crazy, but so.

[Bowen Yang]

But she was just so smart in the end.

[Gabby Windey]

Totally. But she comes off as kind of dumb.

[Bowen Yang]

But, like the episode where they go to the, like the North Fork Hamptons house or whatever, and the show, she's just on one because she's drunk.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

And she's just, like, tearing into all of them.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Sometimes you need to.

[Matt Rogers]

Sometimes you need to.

[Bowen Yang]

Sick of all of you.

[Gabby Windey]

It makes you stronger as a relationship, you know, the bond.

[Matt Rogers]

She actually was the most mature because she was the one who got who she actually. If you watch it again from the beginning, she's the most open. She's, like, so thirsty for, like, Jess approval and, like, to be involved in those girls. And she was kind of, like, side character y there for a little, like, definitely number four on the call sheet. And then by the end, she was the first one to be like, I don't want to be friends with you guys. I don't like you guys. You haven't been good for me. You all need to grow up like I am. So ultimately, she was the character who was able to mature the fast.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. No, I agree. And I can relate to that character. Always the one that's, like, wanting to fit in so bad because, like, when you don't fit into a friend group or they're, like, not giving you attention, like, it hurts so bad to be that girl. But we all have, you know, even on Housewives, and I feel like sometimes they pull in new housewives, and you can tell who was like that. Angie from Salt Lake City. And I'm like, fuck, I relate. And letting it, like, doing it and letting it all hang out and doing it so confidently.

[Bowen Yang]

She's blossomed.

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly. And now people understand her. I think she's so funny. Like, she seems like she's a really good time.

[Matt Rogers]

She came on our podcast. She's the only. She's the only one that's been on the show. And we. We kind of, like, don't ask a lot of Housewives because we like this to be a space where we can kind of rip the piss out of them.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

But with her, we were just like, let's go. It's our last episode of 2024. It's Angie K. I love it.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. It's a waiting, perfect housewife. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Lisa Rinna wants to come on.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm like, she's coming on our show. We believe she'll be fine.

[Bowen Yang]

I think you should have her on.

[Gabby Windey]

Okay. Okay. Not to put pressure on what I need. Want. I need the pressure.

[Bowen Yang]

You two. You two together is really interesting, no?

[Gabby Windey]

Interesting.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I'm saying, like, compelling.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, I need to hear this conversation the same.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. I love her, and she's iconic. The thing is, like, yes, I'm gonna say something controversial, and this sucks. Like, we. Robbie and I talk about all the time. It's like, her daughters. How do you feel that you're never gonna be as iconic as your mother.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. No. And you know what's funny? The second place, the second she got off Housewives.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

She then, like, hit the fashion circuit harder than either of them. Like, it's a moment.

[Gabby Windey]

She's an icon. She's working with the sickest photographer. She does the most editorial. She's timeless. She shows the. At Marc Jacobs.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, were you at that show, too?

[Gabby Windey]

No, I've never been to a show. That's why I'm wearing Mew Mew Desperate.

[Matt Rogers]

You look great.

[Gabby Windey]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's a really, really good color.

[Bowen Yang]

Really good on you.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. I'm waiting for a nip slip.

[Matt Rogers]

They're sort of. They're sort of. They're sort of there.

[Gabby Windey]

How is it? Like, how far is she gonna go?

[Matt Rogers]

It is.

[Gabby Windey]

No, this one definitely is. And it's white. And see through your abundance.

[Bowen Yang]

Your abundance of nipples.

[Matt Rogers]

Great.

[Gabby Windey]

Sorry, Donnie. I'm like, I am gonna like Blake Lively at some point. No. Where she's just like, I'm sexually harassed. But she's the one that's a Blake Lively, but she's the one who's doing it. I'm like, oh, my God. My podcast editor, where I'm like, you can name this one. Like, clit burnt off. Like, masturbating for money. I'm like, no comments, please. Just do it.

[Bowen Yang]

But, like, to go back to this. This idea that you could be a Nicki Minaj for a new generation.

[Gabby Windey]

There's too high of praise.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no. It's like, Gabby, people are like, coming.

[Gabby Windey]

From you is insane.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no, no.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. If I didn't have my Ativan last night, my propanellol, I'd be having a panic attack. But I'm fully char.

[Matt Rogers]

Honestly, I will say I hadn't thought about carrying around nad, but now I'm really excited about thinking about it.

[Gabby Windey]

Get the nasal.

[Bowen Yang]

Nasal.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes, I did. Don't do it in your nose because you'll bloodshot your eyes. Do it in your mouth.

[Matt Rogers]

In your mouth.

[Bowen Yang]

Spray in the mouth?

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Nasal spray in the mouth.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Do you think maybe you breathed in too hard?

[Gabby Windey]

I think it's just like. It is, I think just a strong kind of abrasive because you see how nad fucks you up.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I mean, it's.

[Gabby Windey]

You know, when you're getting it, so it's just too much for the little natural those.

[Matt Rogers]

What happens is, I. I don't even have it put in the bag anymore. They do an injection.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, we're on the same thing.

[Matt Rogers]

I get it right here.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And sometimes, like, do you want it in your butt or do you want.

[Gabby Windey]

It in the arm?

[Matt Rogers]

And I'm always like, I don't know. I asked you to come to my home to give me. This is just me and you. I don't want to, like, drop now. Like, even I have boundaries at times. Same with this medical professional.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, I know. I'll do the arm. Sometimes it's like there's really no saying.

[Matt Rogers]

But when they come to your house, like, because occasionally I'll treat myself and, like, I'll get an IV at my house. And. Yeah, I. One nurse that came over to my house, and she had just gone through a breakup, and it was, they're in your house for, like, 45 minutes to an hour. So I ended up, like, being a real shoulder to cry on for this traveling IV nurse. And she was, like, really going through it. And then I had her again three months later, and she was still having a hard time.

[Gabby Windey]

Girl, we gotta get over it. Yeah, girl, you need some nad. Some dick.

[Matt Rogers]

That's when love bombing goes wrong.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

This.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And I was like, I'm so sad. And then she cried in my apartment.

[Bowen Yang]

But for her, I think she probably was, for lack of a better word, triggered when she came back to your apartment three months later.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what? Maybe.

[Bowen Yang]

Maybe.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Gabby Windey]

Yes. We're not Vegas people. Like, we don't like to gamble. Like, they have good shopping, but so does la. And we're in New York a lot. But now we're like, we have to go here once a year. Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Person you might. That might go to two or three times. You'll start to really like it.

[Gabby Windey]

We love the nostalgia. We went to the Hamptons once at the beginning of our relationship for our first time. Both of our first times. She grew up in New York but like obviously never went to the Hamptons. She grew up with nine siblings and her mom was just like, fuck, no.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

So we went and I were like, we have to go every year. We went last summer for a wedding, a chic wedding. So we have to go. So it's like Vegas and the Hamptons.

[Bowen Yang]

Those are the regular places. I'm slowly becoming a Vegas person.

[Gabby Windey]

Are you?

[Bowen Yang]

Because I hadn't been back for like 12 years. I went back to see Shania Twain and Mariah Carey again.

[Matt Rogers]

We had the best.

[Gabby Windey]

I want to see Mariah Carey's been on your pod. She's my all time. Yes. On road trips. Oh, my God, I love her. She gets me through.

[Matt Rogers]

She literally sat exactly where you sat. And we. We couldn't even like. But that was. I would say you can take it.

[Bowen Yang]

Where's the nad?

[Gabby Windey]

Where is the nad? Yeah. Literally. Yeah, yeah. In the back of the throat and the amybula.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't do that anymore.

[Gabby Windey]

No. Only with nad worthwhile is that a.

[Matt Rogers]

Relief to no longer have to suck dick ever again.

[Gabby Windey]

I never did it in the first place. Let's be honest. They'd ask. They'd be like, if you have to ask, obviously I don't have to do it. Now you go down on me and shut the fuck up. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, God. How empowering.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yeah. That should have been the first clue, but it takes you a while.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

No. You're being fed all these signals from the world that, like, you should love this.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

And it's like, why?

[Gabby Windey]

That's what it is. It's really society. And I grew up in Colorado. Like, in the Midwest. There was just like, no. No gay girls. Rarely even gay dudes. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

So was there, like, something in your brain? Like, I guess what I'm asking is, did you consciously know this to be true and buried it, or was it something that, like, actually wasn't awakening at some point after you went through things?

[Gabby Windey]

I think more of an awakening. I don't ever try and bury anything, but that's probably, like, my conscious versus subconscious thinking. But it's like, I just hadn't seen an example. Even still, now we don't see a lot of lesbians. Yes. Like, not on tv, not on anything. So I was like, I wanted to be happy. I wanted to be in love. And I thought that was gonna be with a man. But it's like, I didn't want kids. So I'd pray every night that, like, I know there's a God if I ended up with a man that didn't want kids. But it's, like, such a blessing. And at the end, I think it just all happened at the. Like, I would go to bed, and you know how you have kind of, like, subconscious thoughts right before bed? I'd be like, what if I'm gay? What if I tell my family I'm gay?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Like, what's going to happen? So I think. And I was, like, such good friends with a lesbian. Like, the coolest lesbian, only one I've ever met as a nurse. So I think there's probably a big emotional attraction, but I just didn't know it. Like, the whole unit was like, are they dating? And I'd, like. I would never take it personal. I'd be like, you know, I'm like, that's so funny. But, like, she didn't push, which was so nice. You never, like, hit on me, came on to me we just had, like, the best.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. And that's how I think Robbie and I are like. People are like, oh, to be a fly on the wall. Normally, I'm like, it's gonna be boring as. But, like, with her and I, it's like, I think it would actually be fun to be a fly on the wall.

[Bowen Yang]

Of course it would. Everyone is like, everyone's rooting for you guys.

[Gabby Windey]

Thank you, truly.

[Bowen Yang]

I hope you feel that.

[Gabby Windey]

I do. She's like. She's just the best. She is who she is. As you see her, like, on camera, in the public, and at home, she's so naturally just herself.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait. Oh, my God. You know what I'm remembering right now? You were at our friend Greta's New Year's Eve party.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

And, oh, my God, were you guys there? No, we weren't. But I was supposed to go. And I remember, like, later, she was like, oh, my God, Robbie brought Gabby. And I was like, oh, my God, that would have been such a New Year's vibe. Us with our nad and champagne.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally. Yeah. Yes. Sharing. Squirt, squirt, squirt, squirt, squirt.

[Bowen Yang]

Back in the throat.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's great, too, when, like, when you. When you can have a partner that, like, has, like, cool, interesting friends, too. It's, like, totally. You know, it's like, sometimes it's hard when you're dating someone and you look a little bit past it and you're like, what? I want to hang out with them in the community that they belong to, but that's, like, a really cool thing you found.

[Gabby Windey]

She has the coolest community. She's just, like, the coolest. She's an industry darling. Like, everyone we hang out with is, like, pretty prominent. I'm like, babe, I don't know if I can't. What am I gonna say?

[Matt Rogers]

No, they're. They're probably obsessed with you.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, my God. I can't. It's, like, just something I can't wrap my head around. But she's always, like, wanting to double with, like, eps of, like, networks. I'm like, babe, go yourself. But it's like, I load up on propane, wall on nas. Okay. Come on, baby.

[Matt Rogers]

But you can lift the emotional car.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

You're at Gabby, you're at a point now where it's like. I mean, people at work. Like, everyone at a subtle. SNL's like, oh, my God. Like. Like, Gabby, Wendy, like, like, what a fucking legend. Like, everyone is like. It's just like, you're very easy to Adore.

[Gabby Windey]

Thank you. It means the world. Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Just on, like, a mass scale. It's, like, within offices. It's. It's just like, oh, my gosh, like. Like, Robbie Hoffman came the other week and, like, was Gabby with her? Oh, no, I don't. Like, It's. It's just. You figure into the conversation in that way organically.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, my God. Thank you. You have no idea what it's doing for my confidence. I have. I have crazy imposter syndrome, and pretty much before medication, just, like, zero confidence.

[Matt Rogers]

It's hard to.

[Gabby Windey]

Depression.

[Matt Rogers]

It's hard to. I think, especially when you're someone who's, like, you know, obviously very aware of pop culture. Like, you knew what it is you were walking into. And then all of a sudden, I can imagine that it would be really fucking crazy to be in the car at the Bachelor and they're riding you up, and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I'm doing this thing that a lot of people are going to be picking apart, watching, picking apart, scrutinizing, talking about. And you've probably seen all different sides of it because, like, you've probably been at any given point, like, the hero, the villain, the neutral person, the person who doesn't feel they're on camera enough, et cetera, like, in positions where, you know you're in a position of tension on live television, et cetera, like the three shows that you've done, and then, like, everything surrounding it, it's such a wide variety of experiences that how can you feel possibly comfortable when it's always changing?

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Outside of it being high profile.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. So true. I feel like I'm definitely at different stage right now. Like, at first, after Bachelorette, I think I, like, kind of realized how niche it was and how Bachelor Nation was and, like, stuff like that. And it was. It's not more. It's not more forgiving. It's way less forgiving, but it's less serious. You know, people just, like, don't take it as serious. So we were doing press. We went on Kimmel. We did all that stuff with Anthony Anderson. It was again, the D squad, but it's like, it's like him and Willie Geist, who's like, I heard a joy.

[Bowen Yang]

Willie Geist is a joy.

[Matt Rogers]

He's the greatest. But when you go on Kelly Clarkson.

[Gabby Windey]

You want Kelly Clarkson to provide context.

[Matt Rogers]

They went on Kelly Clarkson as the winner of the Traitors, and the host was Willie Geist. And it's like, I'm sorry, but if you pull up to the Kelly Clarkson show. You do want Kelly Clarkson's joyful superstar ass to walk out there and say y'all, et cetera.

[Bowen Yang]

But Willie is king. Of course. This is where we're coming from.

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly. Robbie was like, yeah, he was. She was like, who is this guy? I'm like, this guy. She's like, adore him.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

And I'm like, oh, okay, I understand. But, like, was beyond stoked for Kelly Clarkson. Yeah. But we did. We did GMA we did all that for the Bachelor. And it just. It felt a little easier this time around. I feel like there's a lot more pressure because, like, more. Especially since Traders is an industry show. You know, I'm like, damn, there's really eyes.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

So, like, yeah, like, I have to show the fuck up, but. So I hope I get more comfortable. I think I will. But, yeah, it's like a different kind of fandom. It feels. Which is amazing, but also, like, scary, because when too many people like you, it's like the loyalty thing, it's like, what's going to happen if I have a bad take? I tried out a bad take last night at dinner with, like, my new agent and my manager.

[Bowen Yang]

What was the. Can you try it out on us?

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yes. And we were.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, we went out of bed.

[Gabby Windey]

I tried it out. It was like we were talking conspiracy theories. And I'm like, well, yeah, you guys, like, now I'm a this. And the room fell silent. And I'm like, I'm not gonna lie. I did not love that reaction. I'm gonna backtrack. This wasn't what I was expecting. They're like, no, that's a bad. Don't say that in public. No, that's a bad take. I'm like, you know what? You gotta try. You gotta try. I gotta see. This is. Thank God I tried it out with you instead of, like, on the podcast. But I was this close.

[Matt Rogers]

Fine.

[Gabby Windey]

I was. Next episode, I was gonna do it. So, like, thank God.

[Matt Rogers]

Pulling the trigger.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

This is the thing with the shows you've been on. It's an industry show with Traders, but, like, people who respond to you will then find their way to something that is completely in your own voice, which is long winded, which is gonna be the podcast. And then they're gonna get to know the full, real version of yourself. I kind of feel that way about SNL being, like, a portal into this. You know what I mean? So, like, it's all good, but it's crazy making, though, to, like, be in that in that open, exposed sort of plan and just be like, okay. I'm like, I'm getting. It feels like you're getting slings and arrows from all sides.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Who among the four girls and girls would be would come out if the show were still on?

[Gabby Windey]

As gay.

[Bowen Yang]

As gay.

[Matt Rogers]

Who's gay?

[Bowen Yang]

Probably Hannah.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, definitely. I feel like she always kind of read as bisexual or I feel like Marnie. Cause she's so repressed.

[Bowen Yang]

Right?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, Marnie. I don't think Marnie. Well, the joyful thing about Marnie is she's like, will never change.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

I. I think that was the thing that I loved most about the end of the show was I was like, marnie is that girl that we all know from our twenties that's just never gonna change. Maybe she never had a chance. Maybe she's in denial, but she is definitely that girl who at least is trying out girls because, like, it becomes a thing that she's curious about.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Cuz she's doing her research. She's a Taurus.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

I feel she's gonna like. Or maybe. What is the other one that I'm forgetting?

[Bowen Yang]

Aries.

[Gabby Windey]

No, a Virgo.

[Matt Rogers]

The other in Virgo, they. They speak to one another.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Like the earth sign. They have a list and they're checking it twice and they want to make sure that everything is like perfect and that they've done their research.

[Matt Rogers]

Wait, what are you.

[Gabby Windey]

Twinsies?

[Matt Rogers]

Pisces, Scorpio.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh my God.

[Matt Rogers]

That's why we did that.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Scorpio. Yes. Yeah. Pisces, man. I feel like they get like. Is the jury out?

[Bowen Yang]

No, I love it. We love a Pisces.

[Gabby Windey]

I think so too. I do. Like a Pisces. I feel like they're just themselves and emotional.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, we are. We. I would. I would go ahead and call myself a little high maintenance.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

But it's okay. Yes. I need a lot from the people that are in my life, but I think that they love me for it.

[Gabby Windey]

But you're lovable.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes, yes.

[Matt Rogers]

But I also know I understand how I can be.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Well, at least you're in on it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It took a long time.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

But what are you?

[Gabby Windey]

I'm a Capricorn. Me, Bustin, Rob King, Carolyn Dolo Do. And Sierra. Can you believe it?

[Bowen Yang]

Five Capricorns on this cast and.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. And Capricorns are like rare.

[Bowen Yang]

I love Sierra. Got did so dirty.

[Gabby Windey]

I love Sierra. Me too.

[Matt Rogers]

She's so hot.

[Bowen Yang]

Gorgeous.

[Gabby Windey]

She's so fucking hot.

[Matt Rogers]

It's crazy.

[Gabby Windey]

It's Crazy. Her eyes, like everything.

[Bowen Yang]

Like I would. You know what I mean?

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, it's that kind of thing where it's just like, it pushes the boundaries of like homosexuality. It's like that we might be able to cross over. But then again, my thing with ever trying it with women is it's like I just respect them too much. I don't want them to have a bad time. So don't ever try me because I can't promise a good time. Guys out there, I can make sure we have fun girls. It's like, do your thing.

[Gabby Windey]

That's so sweet.

[Matt Rogers]

Even when I was in high school and like, and like gay guys that were closeted were like, yeah, I'm going to hook up with a girl. Just because like our gay friends are like, I used to hook up with girls. I'm like. Even when I was like really wanting to fit in and wanting the approval of my straight friends, I just could never put another like a girl in my high school in that position like, ever. Because I was just like, I just don't feel comfortable flopping.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh my God. That is. Yes. I like how it's still self interest at the end of the day.

[Matt Rogers]

Ultimately it's like, I don't want to flop, but also I don't want you to have a bad time. Like that would humiliate me.

[Gabby Windey]

Is that the Pisces man in you?

[Matt Rogers]

I guess.

[Bowen Yang]

Definitely.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, right.

[Matt Rogers]

I'd have to look it up. I'd have to really get into it. But I'm also.

[Gabby Windey]

What does this mean? Is this Pisces? Then you will.

[Matt Rogers]

Is this Pisces? When you're gay in high school, don't fuck girl. Because ultimately self interested by you. Also don't want them to have a bad time. Rather be friends.

[Gabby Windey]

And AIs like, yes, stop.

[Matt Rogers]

Or AIs like, what?

[Gabby Windey]

AIs like, I'm learning from you.

[Matt Rogers]

We're filling in blanks.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Wait, what's Robbie?

[Gabby Windey]

She's a Sagittarius. She's a double Sag and a Libra.

[Bowen Yang]

Great. Oh, that's a good.

[Gabby Windey]

She's amazing. She's the life of the party. Effortless, funny, Obviously.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, no, it's. It's time for Robbie to come on.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, you guys gotta have her. Yes. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

We'd burn the world.

[Gabby Windey]

So cultured.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, she is.

[Gabby Windey]

She introduces me to like a ton of culture. She's amazing.

[Matt Rogers]

What's the thing that Robbie brought to you that you're now obsessed with everything.

[Gabby Windey]

I mean, she's helped me. It's like, she has introduced me to culture, but I do have taste. Yeah, I gotta give myself some credit. She has amazing taste too. But like art. I never really appreciated art before. Definitely designer. Vintage. Ruined my life. Now, like, obviously I'm obsessed. She loves. She's such a good shopper. Movies. Her mom was really cultured and like, only just put on amazing movies, like, well directed, like, just appreciated that. I love to read. So, like, books. She's telling me all of her mom's favorite books and like American class classics. I'm like Joan Didion. I did Catcher in the Rye. Love Sylvia Plath. Like, I've just never read him before. I could take or leave Catcher in the Rye for sure. What's that guy?

[Matt Rogers]

He always annoyed me.

[Bowen Yang]

J.D. salinger.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, he's a pervert. Then we watched the documentary and we're like, okay, well, don't love this, but obviously love the women writers.

[Bowen Yang]

Have you seen the Joan Didion documentary the Senator Will not Hold?

[Gabby Windey]

No. But now I'm obsessed. She is such a good writer.

[Bowen Yang]

Everybody has been there. Traffic was a nightmare, you got home late, and your dinner plans are out the window. When you hear the inevitable tiny voice saying, I'm hungry.

[Matt Rogers]

That's when dinner dread sets in. What are you gonna make tonight?

[Bowen Yang]

How can such a simple question be so hard to answer? Well, it doesn't have to be, because a delicious, family pleasing meal from Stouffer's is only a ding away.

[Matt Rogers]

So if your dinner plans are derailed, don't worry. Just turn to a delicious solution from Stouffer's. A meal that will always le. Leave everyone happy. Especially you.

[Bowen Yang]

Especially me. With the lasagna. Maybe some chicken enchiladas. Spaghetti with meat sauce is always a winner. Or how about some cheesy chicken and broccoli pasta bake? Yes, please.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

Picture yourself going for a drive. What comes to mind? Potholes, lane splitting bikers, sleepy truckers, red light runners and distracted pedestrians crossing where they shouldn't.

[Matt Rogers]

The truth is the road can feel unpredictable, like it's out to get you at every turn. But it doesn't have to be that way.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

You can change lanes with much more confidence thanks to the available Blind Spot View monitor, which actually shows you a live video feed of your blind spots.

[Matt Rogers]

The standard Forward Collision Avoidance Assist can help prevent or mitigate accidents by alerting you of an imminent collision and automatically applying the brakes if you don't.

[Bowen Yang]

Hyundai vehicles are equipped with the standard Driver Attention Warning System which constantly monitors your attention levels. Once detected, it sounds alerts and visual cues to help bring you back to focus on the road.

[Matt Rogers]

With available class exclusive safety safety features, Hyundai lets you enjoy the journey with confidence, knowing that your car is working hard to help avoid the dangers of the road from getting you.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Bowen Yang]

I think it's time.

[Matt Rogers]

So we've reached the point in the show where we take 60 seconds each to absolutely destroy pummel and make feel bad. Something in culture that deserves all those things. I feel like I may have done some variation of this before. But I don't know what it was about the YouTube wormhole I was in earlier. But I need to say it again. I don't think I've taken this angle. Here we have you.

[Bowen Yang]

You were vetting this with me earlier. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. Any of his time starts now.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think so. Honey. Not enough brutal deaths to villains in children's films. I'm talking about Disney anymore. If I have to watch one more movie where the villain is yourself, I'm going to fucking lose my shit. Kids need to fear death and they need to understand the brutal reality and consequences of your villainous behavior. Please pull up. I'm sure streaming Disney. The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Look at what happens to Froyo the man.

[Bowen Yang]

Froyo.

[Matt Rogers]

Claude Frollo.

[Bowen Yang]

Frollo.

[Matt Rogers]

Frollo.

[Bowen Yang]

30 seconds.

[Matt Rogers]

He falls off a Gorel and goes into lava. Half these villains died in lava. Missed mama from Princess and the frog gets dragged to hell. Deservedly. For his villainous behavior in the Princess and the Frog. Ursula stabbed to death in the middle of the ocean. We can only imagine she sank to the bottom. And don't even talk to me about. About Scar who is ripped apart by the hyenas. And I was made better as a result. Because I have fear and I know consequence. I don't think so. Honey. These flop ass new Disney movies and the flop ways in which villains don't even exist.

[Bowen Yang]

And that's one minute.

[Gabby Windey]

That was amazing.

[Matt Rogers]

Thank you. Because I'm just saying like, it's like. And also don't get clever with me. Don't get cute with me. Frozen where it's like a secret villain who like what. Who even cared what even even happened to him. Did he die too? In one.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't even acknowledge his culture.

[Bowen Yang]

One. He gets like kicked out of the kingdom. It does nothing bad.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh yeah. How brutal Exactly.

[Gabby Windey]

I'm not such. I love. I'm like. I could barely keep up. But yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I just want. What. All I'm saying is it's like if you're trying to protect kids. Yeah, that's a problem.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

I agree.

[Matt Rogers]

We need more. We need more violent reality in Disney films.

[Bowen Yang]

Be exposed to like pathogens. You know what I mean?

[Gabby Windey]

Totally. To build up their immune system.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

The vaccine being watching a man burn to death because he was mean to the princess.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. Don't do that.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I know. You're with me.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally. Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so there we go. Think about that one. True. On that Bonyang. Do you have an I don't think so, honey. On today?

[Bowen Yang]

I do.

[Matt Rogers]

That's perfect and glorious. This is Bowen Nings. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now.

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think think so, honey. Wireless, cordless, Bluetooth, anything. We've reached the critical mass of things. I don't need to be waving my mouse from across the damn room of the computer screen anymore. Look at that. Look at that right there. Can we get camera coverage of the mouse with the cord that is anchored to something? I know it's gonna work. I don't have to switch a switch on and off and then wave it around to wake it up and then have the Bluetooth connection. 30 seconds to know that it will work. I know the cords to be an insurance policy in their own right, so that therefore I don't have to figure out. Go into my settings and click into Bluetooth and click interconnect or disconnect and re. Establish the connection. We have put up with too much for the sake of what? Convenience?

[Matt Rogers]

Of decluttering?

[Bowen Yang]

Of our hatred of wire, strings and connection? No, bring it back. Abandon AirPod. Embrace tradition. Go back to the corded earpods of your.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's one minute. And also, there's no one better at hiding cords than him.

[Gabby Windey]

Well, that's what I'm like. I don't know if I can get behind this because the hatred of the cords is so real.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

So I.

[Bowen Yang]

That's only if you have so many of them. You just edit the cords that you must have in the house.

[Gabby Windey]

Well, first of all, that was amazing. You sold me. I want cords everywhere.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Gabby Windey]

Like, come on.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, here's the thing. Like, you were the one that taught me about the thing you put on the wall to put the. You put the cord.

[Gabby Windey]

And what is it?

[Matt Rogers]

Cord management.

[Bowen Yang]

I've got little bins, like, next to the outlets. And then you just put. You put like, your power. Your power strip, your surge protector in that. Have all of the cords sort of hide within that little box. And it looks like you don't have cords in the house.

[Gabby Windey]

Incredible. And it does work better.

[Bowen Yang]

It does. Because.

[Matt Rogers]

Because. Because literally, there's no question as to what could be going wrong. It's like, oh, it's not plugged in. Or I, like, need a new cord. With the wireless of it all, it could be anything, a million things. It's an anamorphous problem that changes.

[Gabby Windey]

Why am I not connecting? Why, yes.

[Matt Rogers]

And the bows.

[Bowen Yang]

You feel crazy.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally, I'm like, is it me? Do I have to take this into the. Where's there? There's no tech shop that'll come in and troubleshoot any kind of tech equipment. Like, what about my bows? What about my JBL pill?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Gabby Windey]

What happened? I cannot charge it anymore. Where do I take this? I know it's not broken.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, you're shit out of luck.

[Gabby Windey]

Literally. Also, no cords. We're back on cord.

[Matt Rogers]

No. And for this to be coming from you, too, someone that I believe embraces technology and progression. I think if there's one thing about Bowen Yang, it's that he embraces technology and progression and moving forward. Because you always have the newest stuff. You're Gadget King.

[Bowen Yang]

I'm like, hairpin turning now because it's just like, oh, this is not necessarily a good thing for me or the world.

[Matt Rogers]

When it all burns down, what then? My thing is, like, if the wireless were to go down, which we could get into the conspiracy theories, but, like.

[Bowen Yang]

Is this our bad take? Like, we should all just, like, be preppers, you know what I mean?

[Gabby Windey]

No, totally, totally. I 100% agree.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, I want to be able to live off the grid. Completely.

[Gabby Windey]

Absolutely. I'm getting dual citizenship to Canada because Robbie.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God, that's amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

We're fleeing, the weather's terrible. I'd rather go to Florida, which, like, should be its own country, but, you know. But it's not. The people there are its own demo.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it's true.

[Bowen Yang]

You know, there's like a map overlay all around North America of, like, the most climate scale, safe place in North America is, like Toronto, basically.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

I believe, like, that that part of Canada, like Midwest Canada.

[Matt Rogers]

So don't they also say, though, like, if you are nervous about things, go to Denver.

[Gabby Windey]

That is crazy. I feel like that's where you go to have a midlife crisis. But, like, people are going to Denver. Be scared.

[Matt Rogers]

It's like, go check on that Extremely liberal state.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

High altitude. This. I could do a one minute thing on this. High altitude is bad for your health.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay. But do you want to do a thing on that or do you want to do anything?

[Gabby Windey]

I have a different thing.

[Bowen Yang]

This is a perfect segue. Okay. All right. We're going to put one minute.

[Gabby Windey]

What's the intro?

[Bowen Yang]

I don't think so, honey.

[Gabby Windey]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

All right. This is Gabby Winnings. I don't think so, honey. No time.

[Gabby Windey]

I got to close my eyes like you start now. I don't think so, honey. The yes girl. What are we doing? No. I am a no bitch.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

Do you want to go to Abbot at Akbar on Saturday? No, bitch. I'm sorry. I like Meryl. Yes. I just cannot get into the musical theater. I'm so sorry. Okay. I love. Okay, abba. I don't know if I can get into their music. I love their history. I love incestual. How incestual they are. But I'm not going to leave the house on a Saturday. No. Because what about an opportunity? I want an opportunity to get REM sleep. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm not gonna meet the love of my life. Even though I did meet Robbie on an opportunity night out. Use your critical thinking.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

I've seen stayed in for so long. What do you mean a yes girl? We've been gaslit again and again and again. What am I gonna do? Fly to Thailand? I'm scared it's gonna get lost in the second. I have no budget. I'm staying in hostels for three weeks and jet lag.

[Matt Rogers]

No. And that's what matters.

[Gabby Windey]

No bitch.

[Bowen Yang]

That's no bitch.

[Matt Rogers]

100%. Also, the thing about Akbar, and this is a real culture, you can't sleep there. It's number 30. The thing about Akbar, you can't sleep there.

[Bowen Yang]

Can't get good movie nights.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes, noted. Opportunity nights.

[Matt Rogers]

But no.

[Bowen Yang]

But the real opportunity night is getting REM sleep.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes, exactly. So you can be your full self.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

What am I? No. These tequila sodas are not getting me anywhere. Especially at Akbar. It's largely gay men. There's no opportunity waiting for me. Guarantee you not when I make my own.

[Bowen Yang]

Right, Exactly.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

What was the opportunity night that you. That you met Robbie? What was the opportunity?

[Gabby Windey]

And that's where I think, like critical thinking is. Unless you want to. Unless you don't to be a yes girl. You know when it's like, just say yes. Why?

[Bowen Yang]

Why? Why?

[Gabby Windey]

If I don't want to do it, I'm not gonna make myself do something I don't want to do. But at this point, I was a new lesbian and I wanted to scissor. So I didn't have to be a yes girl.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Gabby Windey]

I was just like, yeah, it was my idea.

[Bowen Yang]

Right, Exactly. I think Shonda Rhimes wrote a whole damn book about being a yes girl year of yes. And it kind of ruined it for a lot of people.

[Gabby Windey]

The self help part of our culture is like how it's been Pushed on us is awful. If you find yourself in the self help aisle, get yourself a psychiatrist. Lamict. 200 milligrams.

[Bowen Yang]

Like 200 milligrams seems high.

[Gabby Windey]

It is. I had to. I had to up and up and up and up.

[Matt Rogers]

You don't need to literally question whether or not this is healthy because again.

[Gabby Windey]

As a medical professional, literally, yes. And I go to a psychiatrist and she's actually very like timid, conservative with me.

[Bowen Yang]

You've talked about this on the pod.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, she's the best. I always show up on our FaceTimes and I'm like, I upped it again. I didn't get this passed by you, but I. Full disclosure. And I've been getting Xanax from Mexico. So either you prescribe me or I'm.

[Bowen Yang]

Gonna go back to Mexico.

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

She's like, fuck, this guy knows the ins and outs.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

She's an opportunity bitch.

[Bowen Yang]

A no bitch. An opportunity bitch.

[Gabby Windey]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

Like, no, I'm with you. I'm a no bitch.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Bowen Yang]

It's okay.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah, like we have different interest and we should be able. I'm like so scared of telling my friends, like, I'm not interested in abba. Like, come on.

[Bowen Yang]

But you just told me that and I. And I took it. I took it grade.

[Gabby Windey]

But you're not asking me to go, right? Like with. With the intention of me saying yes. If you knew I was going to say no, it'd be different. Like, but. Because then I could freely. But now I'm like, I still have to walk on eggshells, but I can't anymore.

[Matt Rogers]

I love Akbar for the people that it's for, which are people in their 20s, like, like honestly, gay guys in their 20s, queer people in their 20s, like rock out at Akbar. For me, it just like, it does get a little too crowded and that's. I will fully call out myself. Me progressively becoming a no as I get older. But I need to go to the spaces that are a little bit more airier. Your high tops, lows, fearless. Like if I'm. If you're gonna see me out, you'll see me there. Just because I can like breathe and.

[Bowen Yang]

Like high top slos feels as roomy. It's nice.

[Matt Rogers]

I can spin in a circle if I so don't.

[Gabby Windey]

It's the second time I've heard of it. I've never been.

[Matt Rogers]

You'd be a huge success people.

[Bowen Yang]

You would get mobbed.

[Gabby Windey]

But okay. Yeah. I love that, honestly.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, good. Then go.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. I'm like, picture. Cheers.

[Matt Rogers]

You'd be a massive success at High Tops Los Feliz. And this. They. They can use this clip for social.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby Windey]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

We approve this message.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Bowen Yang]

And buy Gabby a free. Get Gabby a free drink if she ever stops.

[Matt Rogers]

But not a tequila soda.

[Gabby Windey]

Not a tequila soda, not a tequila. A light organic orange, no sulfates, please.

[Bowen Yang]

Yum.

[Matt Rogers]

Light organic orange.

[Gabby Windey]

No hangover. It's easy to metabolize.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, Orange wine really is the one.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. It's an LA thing. Everyone. Everywhere I go, like, even in New York, I'm like, this is so LA of me. Do you have a natural wine? And they're like, no. I'm like, perfect. I'll go myself.

[Matt Rogers]

Is your favorite restaurant Great White?

[Bowen Yang]

I love Great White.

[Matt Rogers]

Why do you have to look at.

[Bowen Yang]

I like Great White.

[Gabby Windey]

Do you? Yeah, you basic. Oh, my God. The one on Melrose.

[Bowen Yang]

Great White.

[Gabby Windey]

Thank you very much.

[Matt Rogers]

Like the true queen, the true marriage.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Marnie is literally a hostess at Larchmont.

[Gabby Windey]

That you're on your. With your. With your toe. You're at Great White. And then you're gonna go to the farmer's market.

[Bowen Yang]

That sounds like a lovely day. I know.

[Gabby Windey]

I love bagels. Yes. And the newsstand.

[Matt Rogers]

The newsstand, yes. Oh, my God. You go there, you can. People watch there. It's good stuff. And then they have the green juice at. What's it called?

[Bowen Yang]

Go get em, tiger. No, no, no, no, no.

[Matt Rogers]

What's it called? Oh, God. Come on. Press juicery.

[Bowen Yang]

Pressed juicery.

[Matt Rogers]

I fucks with the pressed juicery.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

I am mar.

[Gabby Windey]

Loud and proud. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

No. Since they won.

[Gabby Windey]

What is that? Karaoke that she did stronger at the birthday party. Was it. Or it was Hannah's. Something wasn't. Am I getting it right?

[Bowen Yang]

Wait.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, my God. It was Kanye West. Oh, stronger.

[Bowen Yang]

One of the most iconic moments in television.

[Gabby Windey]

Oh, my God. It's amazing.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, I'm doing the Girls rewatch. I keep telling myself this once every other month, but it's always happening. Oh, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

I did it two years ago when, like, everyone was doing it, but I would honestly do it again. It's so good.

[Bowen Yang]

That pilot, though, flopped. The first scene, Hannah's first line. I'm a growing girl. For her first scene to be stuffing her face in front of her parents, to the last scene in the finale where she is getting latched onto by her child. It's so such a perfect.

[Gabby Windey]

It's incredible. I mean, and she was so young. Writer, director, star. I know the jury's out, but that Was we love Lena.

[Matt Rogers]

We love Lena. I honestly think Lena. Lena got a bad rap because XYZ like think piece here. But I mean, obviously a lot of it was her being messy. But like, isn't that what we loved about the characters that she was creating?

[Gabby Windey]

Talking about it is like it will never. We'll never forget about it. It will never. It's always going to be relevant. Like in her just like genius, how talented she is and like a way to portray it in such a real way. Like she just let her nepo hang out right at the beginning of the scene. Yes. I'm like, this is so real for like people this age. Like, dad, I need a hundo. I cannot eat. Weren't her parents in one of those places in York that's like they was given a discount because they were artists. I think they. It's like something. Yeah. Some. It's called something where they were like true artists. So they were able to get some kind of a discount on their rent. Exactly. Which like only New York would support.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Gabby Windey]

That. That's what we need.

[Bowen Yang]

And only America would stigmatize.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah. Yes. So true. Here we are. Red, white and blur.

[Matt Rogers]

Red, white and blur.

[Bowen Yang]

Listen to.

[Matt Rogers]

That's actually. That's a rule of co culture number 40. Here we are. Red, white and blue.

[Bowen Yang]

You're a legend. You better remember that you are.

[Gabby Windey]

Both of you.

[Matt Rogers]

You have to come back to the show.

[Gabby Windey]

Please. No. Would literally love. I would do this. You must, like anytime.

[Matt Rogers]

You must. This was so fun.

[Gabby Windey]

Housewives, I love to talk about.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Gabby Windey]

Everything.

[Bowen Yang]

We barely scratched the surface.

[Matt Rogers]

We didn't even. We didn't even itch it.

[Bowen Yang]

Atlanta's back. I got. I gotta catch up.

[Gabby Windey]

I've never watched Atlanta. Should I.

[Matt Rogers]

It's so worth it. And also the way they've rebooted it. Like now Shamia is the star and I think it like suits her. These words mean nothing to. But they will.

[Gabby Windey]

Yes. I'm hanging on. What season should I start with?

[Matt Rogers]

One.

[Gabby Windey]

Okay.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah, one or one is Nene.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, Nene Leakes and charade and Kim's olseac. Like you really kind of can't do better.

[Gabby Windey]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

It needs to be a linear experience. But I started with. Was it six? Was it was. Who said that? Six?

[Matt Rogers]

No, that's eight. Or nine.

[Bowen Yang]

Or nine.

[Matt Rogers]

There was a season that Nini wasn't on which was like explosive. It was the first ever four part reunion. Because if something happens in the reunion that is so crazy actually involving traitor Phaedra Parks that I think got her the traitors was the way she acted on this season of Atlanta.

[Gabby Windey]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

So this actually relates to you.

[Gabby Windey]

And I heard Phaedra was maybe gonna be dropped. Or was she? And then now she's back. She's now back.

[Bowen Yang]

She's now back.

[Gabby Windey]

Exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

Cause it didn't work out on Married to Medicine.

[Gabby Windey]

Who.

[Matt Rogers]

Who but long winded is the pod. Traitors is the show. So I guess a little bit late to do a spoiler. Gabby does win. But of course, very fun watch nonetheless. I mean, this has been so fun.

[Gabby Windey]

So fun. Thank you guys so much for having me on. This is huge.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby Windey]

Everyone's like, oh, my God. This is.

[Bowen Yang]

This is major for us.

[Matt Rogers]

And we end every episode with a song. Who? You can dance. You can die having the time of your life. See that girl, Abba.

[Gabby Windey]

Watch that sing. Sing the dancing queen. Say my love, Abb.

[Matt Rogers]

Bye Bye.

[Bowen Yang]

Las Culturistas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.

[Matt Rogers]

Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, executive produced by Anna Hosnier.

[Bowen Yang]

And produced by Becca Ramos, edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Laborde.

[Matt Rogers]

And our music is by Henry Komirsky. Have you ever felt that uneasy anxiety when the 4pm hour strikes? That creeping meal related distress that happens when you don' quite feel prepared? You know, dinner dread.

[Bowen Yang]

Let's get rid of that unpleasant feeling forever with one word. Stouffers. No matter what happens, you'll have a dinner plan that everyone loves.

[Matt Rogers]

With Stouffer's, some chicken enchiladas are a cheesy chicken and broccoli pasta bake is always welcome whether it is plan A or plan delicious.

[Bowen Yang]

Not gonna lie, I eat the lasagna once a week. And that's a fact. When the clock strikes dinner, think Stouffer's. Shop now for family favorites.