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Bowen Yang
Let's get rid of that unpleasant feeling forever with one word. Stouffers. No matter what happens, you'll have a dinner plan that everyone loves.
Matt Rogers
With Stouffers, some chicken enchiladas or a cheesy chicken and broccoli pasta Bake is always welcome whether it is plan A or plan delicious.
Bowen Yang
Not going to lie. I eat the lasagna once a week and that's a fact. When the clock strikes dinner, think Stouffer. Shop now for family favorites. Look, man.
Matt Rogers
Where?
Bowen Yang
Oh, I see my eye.
Matt Rogers
Oh my. Bowen. Look over there.
Bowen Yang
Wow. Is that the culture?
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Goodness.
Matt Rogers
Wow. Las Culturistas Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. This is a brand new space and I really had to orient myself. This is. It's. It's very Sunset Boulevard. Those people out there in the dark. Yeah, it's very.
Bowen Yang
I love that for you too. When Vanessa's character is auditioning for.
Matt Rogers
For to be a qvc.
Bowen Yang
Qvc. QVC host.
Matt Rogers
You know what I just realized about you? They'd be so lucky to have you. Go to qvc.
Bowen Yang
No, don't even.
Matt Rogers
Why do you. Why are you offended?
Bowen Yang
No, I. I said you could sell.
Matt Rogers
Products on television live.
Bowen Yang
It is a hard job and it is kind of too. It's like encased in amber. That kind of television, you know. It's like time. Like seeing Stacy Rush do it from the Real Housewives of Potomac. Be a QVC legend. I go, this is so comforting. These women are selling some of the ugliest jeggings you've ever seen in your life.
Matt Rogers
It's like a jewel tone jegging that comes with a bracelet and it's like a Christ bracelet. It's like, what I love about these jewel tone jeggings is I can feel confident and sexy while also staying a Christian woman.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
And I'm a Christian woman. While I also. You'd know I'm fun. And that's one thing at home that I think a lot of people are thinking. And I know there's a lot of good Christians out there is. Could I still be fun?
Bowen Yang
Wow. Now these are flying off the shelves. We've already sold 12. These are really selling.
Matt Rogers
And we only have 15. And so that's why I'm saying this is. And that's how I know there's a lot of great Christians out there.
Rosebud Baker
And this isn't a.
Matt Rogers
But this is. And can I just say, we were just doing it. You know, we were just doing it.
Bowen Yang
You were doing it.
Matt Rogers
No, you.
Bowen Yang
I was.
Matt Rogers
I'm sorry, am I blind with someone?
Rosebud Baker
No, you guys were doing it. Really? We were both doing it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, you were doing it.
Bowen Yang
I like, threw a penny in the fountain, girl. You know what I mean? I didn't. I didn't fully.
Rosebud Baker
You threw a rhinestone.
Matt Rogers
Wow. A jewel tone.
Rosebud Baker
A jewel toned rhinestone.
Bowen Yang
So speaking of writer, I mean writer.
Matt Rogers
Performer, stand up legend, by the way, like, we're sitting here, we're just thrilled because this has been a long time coming.
Bowen Yang
It's been a long time coming. This is someone who has seen us bomb and grovel and just be among.
Rosebud Baker
Not bomb.
Bowen Yang
We've.
Matt Rogers
We've bombed.
Rosebud Baker
I've never seen you bomb.
Matt Rogers
I don't know if. I don't know if, like, when have.
Rosebud Baker
We never seen you guys?
Bowen Yang
But that's not true.
Rosebud Baker
No, I truly. I would not say that. I would honestly say.
Bowen Yang
I'm sure I. I had union hall sweats in front of you at some point while you were in the back.
Matt Rogers
Being like, union hall sweats? Is that something we'd call it?
Bowen Yang
It's a uni. Oh, I felt many union hall sweats.
Matt Rogers
Yes. I crushed at union hall every time. You've never, never had the whole sweats. Only felt the union shoulder shake one off stage. Killed them one time. Those people.
Bowen Yang
I was bombing so hard. I turned around to the lady who's Hanging on the wall. And I, I said she was Mary Todd Lincoln, but that's not who that lady is.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, but you know what? I don't know.
Rosebud Baker
Who is that lady?
Bowen Yang
I don't know. It's just some lady.
Rosebud Baker
She might as well be married.
Matt Rogers
Ms. Hall.
Bowen Yang
Ms. Hall.
Matt Rogers
And the way Todd Hall.
Rosebud Baker
Mary Todd Hall.
Matt Rogers
Mary Todd, of course. But listen, this voice that you're hearing, if you're listening to this at home is one of our pals. It's been a long time coming. The Mother load is the special. Honestly, it is funny every single second. Which, dare I say, you can't say even about stand up specials. Most of them.
Bowen Yang
This is about any piece of comedy.
Matt Rogers
Any piece of comedy. Like come see us at Union hall ten years ago.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
You get a few chuckles and get.
Bowen Yang
A few chuckles and that's it. She self directed it. Which we need to talk about.
Matt Rogers
Love.
Bowen Yang
That's fucking.
Rosebud Baker
So fun.
Bowen Yang
So cool of you.
Rosebud Baker
So fun.
Bowen Yang
I need to. We need to ask you about this. She's on the Harmless lady tour. By the time this comes out, she will have Edmonton. I'm sorry, Baltimore, then Edmonton, then Sacramento.
Rosebud Baker
Shut up.
Matt Rogers
I can't believe it.
Rosebud Baker
You know, you know my tour date.
Bowen Yang
I know your dates. I don't know the dates. Well, it's from England.
Rosebud Baker
I mean, you know the cities.
Bowen Yang
I know the cities.
Rosebud Baker
I think Cleveland is in there.
Bowen Yang
Cleveland's in there. I think by the time this comes out. But Cleveland from the future, go see.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And if Cleveland.
Matt Rogers
You just really, really feel shame about this because the fact is this is one of the greats. Please welcome into your ears Rosebud Baker.
Rosebud Baker
H. I'm so excited.
Matt Rogers
When I saw you at SNL the other night, the overwhelming joy I felt. And it wasn't just because Lady Gaga was in the building. It was because Rosebud was there.
Rosebud Baker
Shut the fuck up.
Matt Rogers
No, it was.
Rosebud Baker
Every time I see you at snl, I get like, I get excited. And it's not just because somebody from outside of the building is in the building.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, the SNL sweats.
Rosebud Baker
You know SNL sweats, where you're like, oh my God, somebody, somebody, humanity.
Bowen Yang
Does it feel. Have we talked about this? It feels a little bit both violatory and exhilarating when, like people from the outside world, like, permeate.
Rosebud Baker
Yes, yes. And it's, it, it's odd because obviously, love my husband, hate bringing him to the party.
Matt Rogers
Really hate.
Rosebud Baker
But I feel like I'm babysitting. He doesn't operate with. This is the problem. He doesn't Operate with the same level of paranoia that I have to operate at. So I walk around after him just being like, what'd you say to them?
Matt Rogers
Right then it's like knowing where the landmines are in the battle.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. And he'll be like, they were fine. And I'm like, yeah, but what face did they make?
Bowen Yang
Right.
Matt Rogers
I now just pictured Andy just walking into a battlefield, and it was. It made me laugh. He's a funny guy.
Bowen Yang
Funny guy.
Rosebud Baker
He is. He's. He is a redwood.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Honestly, he's a redwood.
Matt Rogers
Bts, for people that. That. That had. That were not here for the conversation prior to us recording. I saw Redwood last night. The Adina Menzel tree musical. We're calling it Tre. Here's what I'll say. I loved watching her in the tree and I loved how much joy she was feeling doing the musical. And that is where I will end.
Bowen Yang
That's what people say to me every week after an SNL show.
Rosebud Baker
I like, you're having so much fun.
Matt Rogers
So much fun in the sketch, and.
Bowen Yang
That'S what a comedy show should be.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. And that's what's important.
Matt Rogers
You bring us joy.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. And you're happy.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. You have no idea what I've been through.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
But anyway, the special is so good.
Matt Rogers
It's so good.
Rosebud Baker
Thank you. Thank you for watching it. I truly. Whenever. When I started doing it, when I was like, okay, I'm going to do a special about, like, becoming a mom and what that feels like, I was like, this feels a little bit like walking into an open grave.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Because everybody. No one cares. No one cares. Whenever I bring up motherhood, I feel like I just was like, are you guys into rollerblading? Everybody just looks at me like, if you are, I guess, you know. So I tried to make it a special that felt like whether you had had kids, didn't have kids, it was funny and you could enjoy it. And so I feel like I succeeded.
Matt Rogers
It just feels like you the entire time. It doesn't feel like this is my special on motherhood or becoming a mother. It feels like this is Rosebud's special. Right. And I love that about.
Rosebud Baker
Thank you.
Matt Rogers
Like, it's. It's great. You really are one of the best joke writers out there. No, I'm. It's. It's for real. I mean, like, it's just great to see people, like, actually put jokes in.
Bowen Yang
A comedy piece, period, which feels less than a comedy.
Rosebud Baker
And what's important is that you're happy and you had fun.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
You were having fun up there, and.
Rosebud Baker
You'Re having fun up there.
Matt Rogers
Wait, what was the choice to shoot? I guess. Was it. You shot it twice?
Rosebud Baker
Yes, once.
Matt Rogers
Eight months.
Rosebud Baker
So I shot two separate hours. Right. It was like I shot the first hour when I was eight months pregnant. I waited a year. I took the jokes from that hour and I kind of like built on them based on my experience after having had the baby, and then shot a second half of it a year after having the baby and combined the two into one special. It was really fun to do, honestly. I mean, it was terrifying and crazy. When I look back at it, I'm like, that was insane of me. Only somebody who's like, living with the fear of being kicked out of the industry would do something like this. No, truly. I like, that is what. I look at it and I'm like, that was what was motivating me. I was like, I have to keep working, you know, like, this is gonna feed her, you know.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I hear you.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. So I was like, I was working my ass off. But it was really. When I look back at it, I'm like, it's so. I do feel like. And I feel like a loser saying it.
Bowen Yang
Say it.
Rosebud Baker
No, I'm like, it does feel like it's so me. And so when I look at it, I'm like, I'm proud of it. It doesn't feel like something where I was trying to impress, you know, middle aged men, Right. Which when I watched my first special, I'm like, okay, I see what you were doing there. You were trying get the respect of the comics and get that, you know, and now I watch this and I go, that was like 100% me. And just trying to, like, make something that I was proud of.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And like, you shouldn't even, like, rate yourself retroactively on the first special because we went through that phase. We're probably still going through that phase of like, I guess it should appeal to a general audience, which means inevitably.
Rosebud Baker
Like, people that aren't like me.
Bowen Yang
Exactly.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. Yes.
Matt Rogers
Let me sort of traffic in this thing that I don't necessarily believe in and also am not so that I can get across this thing that may do better as a result.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
But then you find out it's a complicated thing, but it's like, no, just be yourself. That's what's going to connect you with people. And yes, that connects you with your fans. But it still doesn't really work in the industry. Yeah, there still will.
Rosebud Baker
It's like, you can build your Own fan base. And it's like the industry still like, well, what about the men in Ohio?
Bowen Yang
Right?
Matt Rogers
And you're like, I forgot about them. Because I don't think.
Rosebud Baker
Because I don't care. Yes. I don't want them. I don't even care. Like, it surprised me that men did like, the special, like, straight guys did. Like, it was a little disappointing, but I was like, okay, I'll take the win. I was like, okay. But it did feel like, I guess that's just what happens, like, when you are you. It doesn't. Then that's all you want. You just want to get on stage and not have to just get over that hump of, like, explaining who you are in the context of the rest of the world for the joke to land.
Matt Rogers
Totally.
Rosebud Baker
Do you know what I mean?
Bowen Yang
Well, and because it's. It's that thing, and I'm rolling my eyes as I say this out loud. It's like you're being so specific that it. That it feels universal.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Bowen Yang
Like, the guy in Ohio can appreciate, like, as a husband, getting postpartum anxiety. Like Andy did or something.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I mean.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I didn't even know could happen either.
Rosebud Baker
I didn't know it could happen.
Matt Rogers
But then obviously it made sense. Like, it is his child. And it's like if you. If you're someone who can ruminate on the idea of, like, this is a thing that wasn't alive a little bit ago.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
You know what I mean?
Rosebud Baker
Yes. And you're like. And the whole time, it's funny because I have, like, a traumatic reaction to, like, sickness. I'll be like, she's not sick. She's not sick. And then Andy will be like, but she is. But she is. And it actually turns out to really be perfect because he'll call the doctor on stuff where I'm like, I don't think we need to be concerned about that because that could be a nightmare for me emotionally and terrifying and for her. And sometimes I'm like, thank God you're paranoid, because.
Bowen Yang
Sure. You know, it's a Checks and balances.
Rosebud Baker
Well, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Do you think that that. Because also in the special, you talk about how you guys were raised very differently. Like, you, like, you'd make a joke about, like, your dad throwing you, like, a football into, like, a lake and being like, that's how you swim, and then jumping in and saving you and being like, see looked your life. What a guy.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. And whereas, like, you know, gaslit into loving your father.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Right.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
He's from Seattle. From a more like, I guess, liberal, progressive.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Situation.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Do you think that that has informed you as parents, even if you're like, growing up being like that? There's no way. There's no way. I'm not going to throw my kid in.
Rosebud Baker
Right? Yes, 100%.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Because I'll be like, I remember him coming home with minhow and. And he was like, I think she has a dairy allergy. And I remember my reaction going, no, she doesn't.
Matt Rogers
That's not. Those don't exist. Even though even fully aware they do, but fully aware they exist, your parent jumps out.
Rosebud Baker
I literally was like, no.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Rosebud Baker
Not an option. And I didn't. I didn't look into it. I didn't ask him why he thought that even. I just went, nah, it's not. No. Brand new gut.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Brand new gut. Can't have a dairy allergy.
Matt Rogers
And we found out. Yes.
Rosebud Baker
We did not find out. I think I actually, on that one, he was like, you might be right about this.
Bowen Yang
You won.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Complacency won.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. But we will. Hopefully. We should just get it checked out. Honestly, looking at it now, I'm like, we probably should just take a look.
Matt Rogers
The gunkles say.
Bowen Yang
The guncles say, check it out. Then it reminds me of this other joke you have about your mom, like, talking about, like, you getting a blood transfusion when you were an infant at a time when kids were getting aids from.
Rosebud Baker
Yes, the transfusion. Yes.
Bowen Yang
And you being like, well, did I have it? And then she's like, well, we never got a check because it would have ruined your social life.
Rosebud Baker
Right. In first grade, I'm like, literally, first grade. I think she was like, you could have. You could have. We just never found out. And the doctor said it would be bad for your social life. I was like, no, he didn't.
Matt Rogers
The waspy doctor.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. I was like, absolutely not.
Matt Rogers
No. I don't know.
Rosebud Baker
And it's funny too, because my mom, like the Pokemon evolution of my mother is like going from like Republican wife to like, liberal divorcee who, like, paints in Maine.
Matt Rogers
Love.
Rosebud Baker
You know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
She moved to Maine.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. And she is now very liberal in a way that you're kind of like, okay, right.
Bowen Yang
You're overshooting.
Rosebud Baker
She's overshooting. You know, she's painting a Ukrainian flag in her garage and she's like, look at this. Look at what I did with a big sunflower in the middle of it.
Matt Rogers
Like, cool. You are discover. You're having a rediscovery.
Rosebud Baker
That's Good. Yeah. No, that's good for you, you know.
Matt Rogers
No, that's true.
Bowen Yang
But then does. Do you feel her brain in your head in this moment of parenthood?
Rosebud Baker
I do. I. You know, that's a really good question. I feel like my dad's parenting had more of an effect, even though I was with my mom more. So, I mean, I think the artistic side of me is all. My mother, like, she's a painter. Her whole side of the family is like, all, like, writers, painters, you know, photographers.
Bowen Yang
Your sister, too.
Rosebud Baker
And my sister is in the art gallery world. She works in art. And so I. And my other sister's a musician, so it's all like, we're all very much that. Yeah. But my dad, maybe it was like, the absence of him, right. That made his presence, like, more of a. Or maybe just genetically. I. That's where it comes from.
Matt Rogers
Do you think maybe, like, the absence of him made you think. Fixate on him more and therefore, like, his parenting, like, was. It's. It's the searching for that or the wanting that. That makes it, like.
Rosebud Baker
I don't know. I'm just like. I look at it and I go, he was. He was like a fucked up guy. And when I think about it, I'm like, he's kind of the reason I'm funny. You know, I like, when I think about my dad making fun of people jogging, I'm like, that's like. That's my sense of humor.
Matt Rogers
He was your comedic influence.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
They do tend to be that. Yeah, my dad would. I don't know my dad. I feel like we probably had similar dads. My dad plays a Long Island.
Rosebud Baker
Long is.
Matt Rogers
But it's kind of like I was.
Rosebud Baker
Listening to the episode with Sarah when you were talking about how you drew him asking for a beer.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Peanut, get me a bear from the frames.
Bowen Yang
I mean, yeah, literally.
Matt Rogers
And all my mom could say was, I love you. It's not funny.
Rosebud Baker
Did he make him. Did he make you walk on his back when his back hurt?
Matt Rogers
You know what, dad?
Rosebud Baker
That.
Matt Rogers
You know what's crazy? I used to make people do that. I used to make Sudi do that.
Bowen Yang
Yes, you did.
Matt Rogers
Judy was walking on my back all of college, and now I'm like, did I get that from my dad? I don't think so. My dad would do the thing of, like, get on my biceps. I can lift you to heaven.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Like, I did that. So it was a. It was a lot of other physical stuff. And he used to. We used to Play a game called Crocodile, where he was a crocodile in the bed, and I was like, try. I was like a muskrat, and he would take me into. Throw me off the bed. Oh, that's.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, that's the best. That's what we do with Minnow.
Bowen Yang
She loves that, I bet. Oh, that's fun.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I want to get thrown.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, it's really fun. She really loves it. She does it to herself now, where we'll, like, grab her and we'll throw her into the bed, and then we'll say, boom. While she does it. So then she'll climb up on the bed, and she'll just fall into the pillows and go, boom, Boom. It's very lonely to see. To see her do it to herself.
Matt Rogers
You know what, though? Sense of humor for me.
Bowen Yang
Sense of humor.
Matt Rogers
She's pratfall.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Pratfall Queen.
Rosebud Baker
Big time. Big time.
Bowen Yang
You've been asked this a million times, but with two comedian parents, what is. What do you, like, you expect her. How is she going to, like, spit that out when she grows up?
Rosebud Baker
You know? I have no idea. I genuinely hope for her sake that she's not a comic, but I also am. Like, I understand it's my job as.
Bowen Yang
A parent to nurture whatever.
Rosebud Baker
To nurture whatever she wants to do, and that is, like, what I intend to do. And if she wants to do comedy, I'm gonna be like, great.
Matt Rogers
That's awesome. Then also, you guys are gonna be there as comics one day watching her.
Rosebud Baker
Sets and be like, it's gonna be really tough.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah. Because you're gonna have to go through a developmental period.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. You know what I think is I just. Just based off of her personality so far, I do think that when she. If she doesn't like it right away, she's gonna be like. And I don't want to.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
So it's like, great.
Matt Rogers
Let's.
Rosebud Baker
Gemini Moon.
Matt Rogers
You know, okay.
Rosebud Baker
Try whatever. Try a lot of different things and then see what you like.
Matt Rogers
By the way, I remember one of the. One of the times that we hung out at SNL in Bowen's dressing room. You came in and you were crowdsourcing names. Yes.
Bowen Yang
I remember this.
Matt Rogers
There was an era where you were, like, really looking to people to. Because I remember you had, like, narrowed it down.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And Minnow rocks.
Bowen Yang
Minnow rocks.
Rosebud Baker
I love Minnow. It's like my aunt's name.
Bowen Yang
I love that.
Rosebud Baker
I feel like it's just, like, a cute little homage to her. And, yeah.
Matt Rogers
It's fun to say when I heard we landed there. I was like, I don't know if that was even in the ether at that time.
Rosebud Baker
I think I said it to you.
Matt Rogers
And Greta, you may have. And I think we. We did have a very positive response.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. Because we were. But we were going back and forth about the middle name. If you have Minnow, then what's the middle name? Because I was like, what about like, Penelope? And then we were like, that's a little Wes Anderson.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You know, like.
Matt Rogers
Veers on too much.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Wait, what is the middle name?
Rosebud Baker
It's Baker.
Matt Rogers
Oh, great.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Oh, my God.
Rosebud Baker
So I just made it Baker.
Matt Rogers
Oh, that rocks.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. Right? It feels.
Matt Rogers
It kind of feels like a darling.
Rosebud Baker
It feels a little bit like. It could be that or it's like a welterweight from, like the 1950s, you.
Bowen Yang
Know, not heavy, not light.
Rosebud Baker
Minnow. B. Haynes.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Is the welterweight.
Matt Rogers
Incredible author, I feel.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
Of important feminist work.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Music producer.
Bowen Yang
Music producer.
Matt Rogers
One word. Minnow. Like willow.
Rosebud Baker
Minnow.
Bowen Yang
Welcome back. Quincy Jones.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
Minnow. Behanes.
Matt Rogers
Minnow. Beh. I love it.
Rosebud Baker
It's fun.
Bowen Yang
You have my fate. I think my favorite. There's a lot of. It's hard to pick a favorite, but I think my favorite currently joke in the special is being a mother in New York is like being a gay man in the 50s. You have to hang out with people who are like you. And it has to be in the park. It's like, I don't know how anyone does it here. I really don't.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, yeah.
Bowen Yang
You can't go to fucking restaurants.
Rosebud Baker
You can't go to restaurants. And people talk to you differently. Like people that you've known your whole life, they talk to you differently.
Matt Rogers
I was dying at mama, hey, mama. You doing mama. And it's not even. And that you are like a gay guy too. Cause. Cause we're all calling each other mama out, right?
Rosebud Baker
Mama, hey, Mama, hey, Mama, hey, Mama, hey, mama. Yeah. And the whole time. And you're judging each other. You're totally judging each other. How do you do it?
Matt Rogers
Have you made, like, mom friends explicitly that you actually like? So.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. So, like, what are the challenges?
Rosebud Baker
I haven't. I have not made a single mom friend.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
I mean, I have friends who are moms that do comedy.
Matt Rogers
Sure.
Bowen Yang
Yep.
Rosebud Baker
So like comic moms I do get along with really well because I'm like. They get it. They understand.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
But it's weird to be a stand up who's a mom because you don't really fit in with the other moms.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Rosebud Baker
And you don't fit in with the stand ups and you're just kind of like, so stand up comics who are moms or parents. You kind of understand.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Because you really are living like a severed life.
Bowen Yang
It's a weird double isolation.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
You know?
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And you've got a crazy job and.
Rosebud Baker
It'S like, I know. Andy went to a party last night for the first time. He, like, went to paintball with, like, a bunch of his friends.
Bowen Yang
That's fun.
Rosebud Baker
And he came home and it felt like something like awoke in him. He was like. He goes, I don't. I don't think I realized how isolating this is.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And I was like, yeah. He goes, that was the most fun I've had in years. I was like, paintball, you know. Okay, whatever. Whatever floats your boat, babe.
Bowen Yang
Should we go? Should we go bowling or something?
Matt Rogers
Like, I think we should go now.
Rosebud Baker
Because now paint and sip.
Matt Rogers
Now I'm going to get. Literally. Now. I'm an actually fixate on paintballing. I went paintballing once, and it was for a straight guy's bachelor party.
Bowen Yang
And you had a blast.
Matt Rogers
And I had the best time.
Rosebud Baker
That was a straight guy's bachelorette.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, literally. And it was. It was like a lot of gay guys. Who was one of those New York theater straight guys who, like, has a lot of gay friends.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
So it was like, me, Dave, our friend Ryan, etc. Like, all getting.
Bowen Yang
Was this Luke's?
Matt Rogers
Yes, it was Luke.
Bowen Yang
I love that.
Matt Rogers
And it was. We were all getting shot at by straight men. But it was like, I've dated so.
Rosebud Baker
Many of those, like, theater straight guys. It's actually embarrassing, isn't it? The personality of like, a New York cop.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You're like, what?
Matt Rogers
Wait, elaborate on that.
Rosebud Baker
Well, me and Andy were talking about it, like, every, like, New York actor who's like, a straight man.
Bowen Yang
Okay, I think I know where you're going with. Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You know what I mean? They all have like a bandana as a bracelet and they'll be like, yeah, I'm an actor. And they've got like a fucking leather jacket on. And it. They have this energy, like they throw a cigarette and they fucking spin on it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. They like, you know what it is?
Bowen Yang
I completely know what it is. I can name like three people.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Damn, you're right.
Rosebud Baker
All like that. And you, you just want to be like, you know you're not actually a cop.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. You know, you're in order. Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Yes, I know. You're living like a Blue collar life as an actor. Kind of. But like, your hands are soft.
Bowen Yang
Right, Right.
Matt Rogers
I also think, like, those guys go through phases too, because in college that's when they're the worst because they get so much action.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Like, these girls are so starved because it's mostly gay guys and like other. Other girls. And also they're in these programs where they're competing with each other anyway.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
So there's already. They're in the mindset of, like, only so many of us can get a roles and be fudged.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
So it's. And those guys are absolutely spoiled for choice.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
And they. It's a different kind of thing. They. They do grow up. And everyone we've talked about has grown up. Yes.
Bowen Yang
But they do in college have to send out those signals among their classmates to be like, I'm not gay, by the way, like that.
Rosebud Baker
It's just a subtle signal. Sort of walk down the street yelling, I'm not gay, by the way.
Bowen Yang
Did it work?
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. I can't. The number of guys that I've dated with like fedoras and, you know, it was really a rough time where I wanted. I wanted to be in a relationship with another artist because I feel like they get it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You know, they get the life that you're living.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
But the actors, honey, I just.
Matt Rogers
It's a little too. The only word is emo.
Bowen Yang
Picture yourself going for a drive. What comes to mind? Potholes, lane splitting bikers, sleepy truckers, red light runners, and distracted pedestrians crossing where they shouldn't.
Matt Rogers
The truth is the road can feel unpredictable, like it's out to get you at every turn. But it doesn't have to be that way.
Bowen Yang
Hyundai's available advanced safety technology is designed to help keep you protected against them. Many challenges the road throws your way.
Matt Rogers
From forward collision avoidance assistant to Blind Spot View Monitor, our vehicles offer available features designed to help safeguard you and your loved ones.
Bowen Yang
You can change lanes with much more confidence thanks to the available Blind Spot View monitor, which actually shows you a live video feed of your blind spots.
Matt Rogers
The standard forward collision avoidance assist can help prevent or mitigate accidents by alerting you of an imminent collision and automatically applying the brakes if you don't.
Bowen Yang
Hyundai vehicles are equipped with the standard driver attention warning system, which constantly monitors your attention levels. Once detected, it sounds alerts and visual cues to help bring you back to focus on the road.
Matt Rogers
With available class exclusive safety features, Hyundai lets you enjoy the journey with confidence, knowing that your car is working hard to help avoid the dangers of the Road from getting.
Bowen Yang
You Learn more about hyundai@hyundai USA.com. call 562-314-4603 for complete details. How did you and Andy meet?
Rosebud Baker
We met at Matchless Bar. Matchless, like, years ago.
Matt Rogers
And were you ever thinking, like, it'll be another comedian, like, straight up stand up comedian, or were you kind of.
Rosebud Baker
Like, I did not know who it would be. I was just, like. I had gotten out of a relationship with a comic.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And when I met Andy, I was, like, still with this other comic, by the way. And then, like, never really even saw Andy until, like, after that. And I remember, like, meeting Andy and seeing him and him being, like, a very awkward human being. And he told me, like, we had talked for the first time in the day to each other, and he was like. I just. I pretend. He goes. Sometimes I, like. I feel like I'm pretending to be a human being.
Matt Rogers
Oh, you've said this.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, yeah. And he was like. He said the whole thing about how he, like, talks to himself. He'll be like, good blinking Andy, you know, while he's talking to someone. And so I immediately liked him, but not in a way where I was like, oh, I gotta get fucked. You know what I mean? I gotta get dicked down.
Matt Rogers
This guy who thinks about blinking is gonna absolutely give it to me in every witchcraft.
Rosebud Baker
He's going to split me in half. Not. No. But also, you know, not, like, not.
Bowen Yang
Not the top of my head.
Rosebud Baker
Yes, Mama.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yes, Mama. So Yes, Mama might be titled on this.
Bowen Yang
Mama. It's so on the nose.
Rosebud Baker
It is on the nose. Yes, Mama. Yes, Ma. I guess I just thought, like, no, it's not gonna be him. And I did. I called up Sidney Washington after I realized I had a crush on Andy.
Matt Rogers
To vet him.
Rosebud Baker
No. To be like, do you think I'm okay? Do you think I'm doing all right? And. Cause it was so outside of. He's so outside of, like, my type and my. What? I was, like, looking for sure that I was like, do you think I'm. Everything okay up here right now? How have I sounded to you? You know? And she was like, oh, this is really out of left field. But she goes, but it makes sense in a weird way. And I was like, that's how I feel. And so we went on a few dates, and then I knew I wanted to get married. So I said to him, you know, not necessarily to him. I just knew I wanted to get married. So I was like, hey, sad news for you. Yeah, I want to get married. So if you don't want to get married, we should just start fucking other people.
Bowen Yang
Right? Right.
Rosebud Baker
And he was like, well, I don't want to do that. I don't want to. I don't want to fuck other people. And so he was like, I'll get married. You know? And I was like, you know, not to me necessarily. It was a weird conversation to have because you're not telling someone, like, you gotta marry me.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You just have to be like, this is what I want.
Matt Rogers
My cards on the table. Here's what I see and not even see for my future. This is what I'm, like, planning for. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rosebud Baker
So. And at the time, did not want kids. Just really wanted to be, like, married and fun. I just love, like, a fun married couple that travel.
Matt Rogers
That travel unburdened, etc.
Rosebud Baker
And they're like. They make each other laugh. I really wanted that life. I was like, that looks so fun.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And so it was literally nine months later that he proposed. So, you know we're both drug addicts.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
We remember when we met him in Montreal. Yes.
Bowen Yang
He was the same flight back.
Matt Rogers
Did you know who we were the.
Rosebud Baker
Entire time about geography?
Bowen Yang
No. But yes. He's a map guy.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, he's a real map guy.
Bowen Yang
He's a real.
Matt Rogers
Wait, what?
Rosebud Baker
He loves. He loves to talk about. Tell him where you're from. He will bring up at least three landmarks in your hometown.
Bowen Yang
Wow.
Rosebud Baker
He's like. He really is autistic.
Matt Rogers
I was gonna say. Is that. Is that an autism?
Rosebud Baker
We've never gotten him tested, but I'm. I'm pretty positive, like, based on everything that I have read and know about autism, that my husband for sure has it on some. You know, he's on that spectrum.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, totally.
Rosebud Baker
For sure. Because it's crazy. I mean, the way just watching Jeopardy. Next to him, I'm like, well, why aren't you on that?
Matt Rogers
He should go on it.
Rosebud Baker
He should. I know.
Matt Rogers
Let me tell you, like, the. The. I've been on the. The celebrity Jeopardy. And did well once I figured out. What. How do you do it? Like the. The clicking of the buzzer. That's the hardest part.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, really?
Matt Rogers
Yes. As long as you get that down, he could win.
Rosebud Baker
Okay.
Matt Rogers
He could win you. I played with other idiots like me. I just think it's a cool thing.
Rosebud Baker
Even if we watch. Even. I swear to God, even if you put him on celebrity Jeopardy, he knows every, like, side character actor's name.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And you know, where you're like, how do you even Know this. And he's like, he's one of the most famous actors in Britain. And you're like, no, he's not. No, he's not.
Matt Rogers
I wonder who it is now.
Bowen Yang
I wonder who it is.
Rosebud Baker
It could be. He says it about everyone.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
How much of it do you absorb? Do you find that you learn things from him or are you like, I absorb her?
Rosebud Baker
None of it. Like, I wish I absorbed some of it. It would be amazing if I absorbed some of it. But it all just goes like.
Matt Rogers
There are people that are just like that.
Rosebud Baker
I'm. I can't. Yeah. I don't know about you. You work at snl, so you can't remember anything, right?
Bowen Yang
My brain is, is fucking.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. And you're in entertainment, so. And also a Pisces, so I assume your memory is kind of shitty.
Matt Rogers
My memory is. Well, pretty good, actually. No, no, no, it's. Well, okay. My long term memory is excellent. My short term memory is getting worse all the time. I think it's. I actually started to freak myself out because I think it's about marijuana. I also, like, all my grandparents have, have, you know, dementia, struggled and met their demise to some sort of like, that type of thing. So I'm now, I just turned 35. I'm now in that phase of like. Okay, so at what point is something coming for me?
Rosebud Baker
Right, right.
Matt Rogers
We were saying it's like algorithmically, death really decides at like 34, 35, that you're seeing like panicky, like middle aged stuff. Yes, it's, it's. Yes, it happens. Yeah. I was thinking about you the other day, like, oh, no, because you're 34 still. But just wait. Things change on the day.
Rosebud Baker
It gets way worse. In your late 30s, just FYI.
Bowen Yang
What, what's coming up in the.
Rosebud Baker
I'm getting just pajamas.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, just, just pajamas.
Rosebud Baker
No, it's like, well, you don't work. Right. They're like, you're retired. It's pajamas.
Bowen Yang
Well then, so then that's. That makes me feel great because the algorithm is still stupid and it doesn't know who you are.
Rosebud Baker
But that's also given the number of things I've filtered out, because they were literally offensive.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You know, so it's like pajamas and.
Matt Rogers
Memory care facilities in all caps.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, yeah. They're like a place for mom.
Matt Rogers
You're like, what a place for Mom?
Rosebud Baker
I'm not even 40.
Bowen Yang
You know, it's going to get even.
Matt Rogers
Worse even now as we sit here with our phones on the table because they're currently listening this is the most up thing that ever happened. Last night I met dinner after the show and I literally said, what do you guys think about deviled eggs? Like, getting them for the table to share? No, I. I flip open my phone, it's like, deviled eggs. It's like the algorithm was like, just wanted to talk about deviled eggs.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I'm like, this is too specific to not be you literally monitoring me at all times when my phone is, like, not in active use. It's. Yeah, well, order.
Rosebud Baker
Deviled eggs is. I thought it was going to be for a senior home. I thought it was going to be.
Matt Rogers
That your interest changing, so might your circumstances.
Rosebud Baker
Deviled eggs for the table.
Matt Rogers
A place for dad. A place for gunkle.
Rosebud Baker
Place for gunk.
Bowen Yang
Honestly, I do we, like, start this now and plan out, like, an assisted living facility for, like, Brooklyn comedians or something?
Rosebud Baker
I mean, we should. There should be something. But I'm scared because I'm like, what could be worse than a nursing home? A nursing home for comedians.
Matt Rogers
Oh, God.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Just desperately trying out your, like, new stuff.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. Just. Or, like, doing bits like people are on when they're in their 80s.
Matt Rogers
Like doing a bit that you're choking but you are. Or like, doing a bit that you forget, like, something but you Wait.
Rosebud Baker
That is my biggest fear when I'm on stage. I've had panic attacks about that.
Bowen Yang
Of choking.
Rosebud Baker
I have panic attacks while I'm on stage about what? If I had a seizure right now, they'd all think I was doing an act out.
Matt Rogers
They'd be like, she's amazing. She's so physical.
Rosebud Baker
And I'm like, I've never been physical in my act in my whole life. I don't know why I think this, but for some reason in my mind, they are all gonna think I'm like Pablo Francisco and I'm just doing a full like, like. And I've had full panic attacks where I don't remember the entire set because I'm just, like, by rote, memorizing, saying it out loud.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
But in my mind going, if I had a seizure right now, they'd all laugh. They'd all be laughing that I.
Matt Rogers
That's crossed my mind before, everybody.
Bowen Yang
If you see Rosebud Baker live and she seizes on stage, it's not an act out.
Rosebud Baker
It's not real at all.
Matt Rogers
The hospital, she's suddenly a physical comedian.
Rosebud Baker
Something's wrong.
Matt Rogers
She's having a seizure. Something is wrong. Hold on. Andy will be there. He'll call the police. If it was up to you. You'd be like, I'm fine.
Rosebud Baker
And he's calling the pediatrician first.
Bowen Yang
You have to come down.
Rosebud Baker
He's like, this is actually about my wife, but I don't have the doctor's number. Yeah. It's a terrifying thing to imagine.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I mean, but the great thing, though, is, like. I mean, as I was watching the special, I was thinking about it. I was like, to have, like, that family unit in place does kind of like, this is like, weird to say, but it does. You have people that are gonna look after you forever. And sometimes I think about that, like, it sounds weird to say and, like, we all have it in some regard because, like, community has been so important in how we develop and stuff. But, like, for, like, queer people, like, that is really important to have, like, your chosen family, etc. Because, like, I need to know who's gonna check me into the facility.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, me, me, me.
Matt Rogers
Or just, like, end it, girl.
Bowen Yang
No, no.
Matt Rogers
Bring me out of my segment.
Rosebud Baker
I would say the same thing to myself.
Matt Rogers
Literally.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. I'd be like, please, just unplug it. I don't want to do it.
Matt Rogers
Once we get bad news. Let's commit to that.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I'm telling you of Mice and Men.
Bowen Yang
That's interesting.
Rosebud Baker
Like, you want to be hugged to death.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah. Kill me like he killed her. Not like, not. Not the shooting mother.
Bowen Yang
Me.
Rosebud Baker
No, just kill me like the little mouse.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
I was thinking of hold me till you crush me.
Matt Rogers
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I was thinking of his mama that he shakes. Not me. Remembering of mice and men. My long term. I'm telling you, crack.
Rosebud Baker
That is good.
Matt Rogers
It's a crack memory.
Bowen Yang
It's a crack memory. I think if you make it to the finish line, which is check me into an assisted living facility. I've made it to, like 78 or whatever.
Matt Rogers
God willing.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, like, that's. That's the prize.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, I hope not.
Bowen Yang
That sucks. That's the last tile on the game of life. You know what I mean? Literally.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, but that being the prize, does that has to bum you out.
Matt Rogers
It's such a bummer.
Bowen Yang
But I'm saying it's nice. Like, I don't totally disagree with what you guys are saying, which is like, just end it there.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Picture yourself going for a drive. What comes to mind? Potholes, lane splitting bikers, sleepy truckers, red light runners, and distracted pedestrians crossing where they shouldn't.
Matt Rogers
The truth is the road can feel unpredictable. Like it's out to get you at every turn. But it doesn't have to be that way.
Bowen Yang
Hyundai's available advanced safety technology is designed to help keep you protected against the many challenges the road throws your way.
Matt Rogers
From Forward Collision Avoidance Assistant to Blind Spot View View Monitor Our vehicles offer available features designed to help safeguard you and your loved ones.
Bowen Yang
You can change lanes with much more confidence thanks to the available Blind Spot View monitor, which actually shows you a live video feed of your blind spots.
Matt Rogers
The standard Forward collision avoidance assist can help prevent or mitigate accidents by alerting you of an imminent collision and automatically applying the brakes if you don't.
Bowen Yang
Hyundai vehicles are equipped with the standard Driver Attention Warning system which constantly monitors your attention levels. Once detected, it sounds alerts and visual cues to help bring you back to focus on the road.
Matt Rogers
With available class exclusive safety features, Hyundai lets you enjoy the journey with confidence, knowing that your car is working hard to help avoid the dangers of the road from getting you.
Bowen Yang
Learn more about Hyundai@Hyundai USA.com, call 562-314-4603 for complete details.
Matt Rogers
You know what is like absolutely. You could go crazy watching it is Gutfeld on Fox, which is like the Fox late night show. It is the absence of comedy. There is nothing funny happening on it.
Rosebud Baker
No.
Matt Rogers
It's like the ratings are so through the roof that you almost have to wonder. It's like are people watching it because it's like they feel it's like their political homework or just because they don't trust anything on anyone else?
Rosebud Baker
It's the thinnest premises you have ever seen. Like, it's hard to. Here's the problem. To write a good joke, a premise has to be true.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You have to write a true premise to write a true punchline. Not that the punchline is supposed to be like true in the sense factual, but like what we would consider a punchline.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
I. You cannot. It's. That job is going to be harder and harder to do because you're trying to write jokes about premises that are not true.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Bowen Yang
Exactly.
Rosebud Baker
So I mean as long as everyone in that world is considering it to be true, I guess it works.
Matt Rogers
It must work because his ratings are so big. They're so much bigger than any of.
Bowen Yang
Right. And I was. But I was telling you that the ratings is more of a function of like it being embedded in other news programming on Fox. Right.
Matt Rogers
I hear you.
Bowen Yang
Where like Daily show could never get those numbers because it's on Comedy Central and no one's like keeping Comedy Central on all day.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And leaving it on at night.
Matt Rogers
And I Completely get that. But my thing is, like, I mean, it's on, they're hearing it. And if there's nothing to challenge the idea that it's A, not comedy and B, also not true, then it's just on and they start to believe it. I think I'm just like, like really realizing more and more that we're just in two completely different silos and there's really nothing to be done about it. Yeah, there's nothing you can do.
Rosebud Baker
If you do care about, like, what is true. There are still journalists. They do exist.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Rosebud Baker
You know, like, I have found that even just at update, right, we. We get a setup. I have to turn around so often and be like, hey, is this something I should be freaked out about or is this a headline that is. Sounds a lot scarier than it actually is?
Matt Rogers
Uh huh.
Rosebud Baker
And most, most often the answer is like, you don't need to worry about this until this and this and this happen.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Bowen Yang
And who's telling you that? Like, who?
Matt Rogers
Che Chimagic.
Rosebud Baker
I go. The beacon of truth.
Bowen Yang
Che's in the office.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Che came to work.
Bowen Yang
Che came to work.
Matt Rogers
What?
Bowen Yang
We love you, Che.
Rosebud Baker
Just Josh Patton who studied political science and gets, you know.
Matt Rogers
I didn't know that about Josh.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, we love Josh.
Rosebud Baker
He's so smart. And oftentimes whenever I'm about to, like, freak out and it's hard for me to write a joke when I'm like, emotionally, of course, like, this is crazy. Yeah, he'll be like, ah, it's not crazy for another three months. You know what I mean? And I'm like, okay, all right. So I can budget the amount of, like, fear that I have, but more often than not, you can, like, look this stuff up. You can find out, like, if it's true and if it's not.
Bowen Yang
Right. But I love that Patton's telling you, oh, worry about bird flu in June.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. Yes. Yeah. He'll be like, it's not a problem until this happens.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Once a million birds are dead. Phone.
Bowen Yang
Okay, we're here.
Matt Rogers
When I said June.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
We're thinking more April 15th.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. Like, I was so freaked out about the flu. The flu. Meeting getting canceled. And like, I was like, oh, no, no, no. And he was like, if it gets canceled in six months, then we're really in trouble.
Bowen Yang
How do you know this?
Rosebud Baker
Because.
Bowen Yang
Because of the major.
Rosebud Baker
Because of the major. I guess he just reads a lot. I literally just realized that. I just went, because of his major.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, but that, but that's, that's that's an answer.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
He is a very smart, funny guy.
Rosebud Baker
Well, he's also like.
Matt Rogers
I mean, it is like, he's. He's engaged in it constantly to. To do. I'm actually fascinated by how Weekend Update works. Like, is it. Do you guys work the same, like.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, we work the same week. Like, we go in Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Yeah, we go in and we do, like, three to five pages of jokes a day. So we just get, like, all these setups, and that goes out to everyone. I don't know really why. I don't know if anybody.
Bowen Yang
I know it's on the setups. There's a setups file in the server. And, like, I'm like, we should. I'm like, cast doesn't need access to this necessarily.
Rosebud Baker
Not really, but everyone does sometimes. People use it. So I. I guess I truly speculation, but we just write three to five pages of jokes a day by ourselves and then turn them in. And then on Friday and Saturday, we go through all of them once, like, Jost and Che have made their picks, we go through all of them. We tag each other's jokes up. We listen to them. We listen to the jokes that were picked back, and based off of the reaction or the way that they feel saying them, it's like they kind of narrow it down from that for Saturday. And then Pete has, like, such a hard job because Pete has to make sure that the show has different topics, that it's covering a widespread and that things haven't been just blasted out already, that they're not telling jokes that have already been told, unlike Colbert or Alan or. His job is so hard.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. I always think about his job. Pete Schultz, also one of the kings of Update. Yes. Has to really keep his ear to the ground in a way that is hard.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. And keep both hosts happy, making sure that they're getting the jokes that they want off.
Matt Rogers
And then what's the interaction between. I feel like I'm, like, asking questions. I'm learning, too, because Bowen is such a star on Update. Like, what is the interaction between people writing their updates and, like, the Weekend Update writing team is there so.
Rosebud Baker
Well, like, when Bowen comes in, he'll pitch something that's like, hey, I'm thinking about doing the hippo, but, like, kind of making it off of, like, mapping it off of Chapel roan. And we're like, great. Sounds done.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Like, that's just such a finished piece.
Bowen Yang
You check in on Tuesday or Monday or Tuesday with, like, the premise.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
With the update team.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. And you come in and you're like, this is the thing. And then you go write it. Right. Other times, someone will come in and they're like, I want to do something that's kind of about this. And then we'll pitch on it and we'll help them and, like, write. And this is something that I actually didn't understand as a sketch writer. On the sketch writing side is if you go into Update and you're like, I have this idea for. For a feature. It's not completely done. You can sit down and pitch with them. They will give you a full, like, we'll give you, like, two to three pages of jokes. And I don't see it often. Get into the thing. Well, sometimes it does, but it's hard for people to understand that we're there for that.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You know what I mean? Because you just. In your brain, it's two different things. Staff. So you feel like you're just kind of chucking it, like, just going back and forth. I've never said chucking it.
Bowen Yang
No, you're chucking.
Rosebud Baker
You're done chucking it.
Matt Rogers
Chucking it. Really work.
Rosebud Baker
You're chucking it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, I'm sitting here chucking it.
Rosebud Baker
We were just checking it. And I feel like when I say things about snl, I forget. I lose my grasp on the same language.
Bowen Yang
I have no idea what words are.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
When people ask.
Rosebud Baker
And I also don't know what's safe to say. Like, I'll say things and then I'll immediately be like, well, that's it. You want to walk into the ocean cooked. Yeah, it's over. But. So we're chucking it. We're back to chucking it. And. And you just think, oh, that's not really. They're not really pitching. But we're totally pitching.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, you are.
Rosebud Baker
So there's that.
Bowen Yang
I. I honestly need to take advantage of that more.
Rosebud Baker
Whenever you want. Chuck it. Come chuck it.
Matt Rogers
Go chuck it. Just so everyone's clear, Bowen is wearing a jewel tone legging and a beautiful Christian bracelet. So I know he's a Christian. And when he talks about his Lent piece, that he was gonna.
Bowen Yang
Yes, I had a Lent piece.
Rosebud Baker
You can wear rhinestones on your vagina.
Bowen Yang
On her vagina.
Rosebud Baker
So angel serve Jesus.
Bowen Yang
I sold two, so these are flying off shelves.
Matt Rogers
There's only three.
Rosebud Baker
There's only three on Angel's wing.
Bowen Yang
Wait a minute. That's a tattoo.
Matt Rogers
I thought you were about to push it up. I thought you were gonna go on Update as, like, a QVC person.
Bowen Yang
Oh, that's fun.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, yeah.
Matt Rogers
Has anyone ever done that?
Rosebud Baker
Probably.
Matt Rogers
I mean. Yeah, probably in the 50 year history of SNL, me thinking no one's ever done it.
Bowen Yang
Kings David Ortiz will go and sell, like, his fake. His fake products.
Matt Rogers
I do love that.
Bowen Yang
Always a blast.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
No. Basically, the character was a lent mascot named Lenny. He was in a friar's outfit, and he was, like, there to, like, whisper sweet nothings about giving up swearing and alcohol and then got up to sing a song. And then when he stood up, like, titty mags and cocaine and titty mags. And then. And then he would just be like, I. Like, I'm a monk who loves. Loves boobs.
Rosebud Baker
Okay. I love it.
Bowen Yang
It was very much in my voice as a boob lover.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, did anyone pitch that you stand up and there is no robe on the road?
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Wait, someone did.
Matt Rogers
Picture.
Rosebud Baker
Okay.
Bowen Yang
See, I gotta chuck it with y'all.
Rosebud Baker
We gotta come chuck it.
Matt Rogers
We gotta go in there and chuck it. Okay, I'm gonna chuck it in a different way now. We're gonna ask you the central question of our podcast. This is the question. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you, Rosebud Baker? This is that thing, that hint that culturally it hinged. You.
Rosebud Baker
Okay. So I did think about this before I got here.
Bowen Yang
Thank you for that.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, I did. I thought about it and. Because a lot of culture. I don't remember because I have blocked out most of my life. However, I believe that dance movies.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Center stage being the main one.
Matt Rogers
And congrats, Zoe Saldana on the Oscar.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. Because. Because Zoe Saldana putting a cigarette out with her pointe shoe sent shivers down my spine in a way where I was like, I can be cool and a girl.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And like, I don't know. She's the one that got on the motorcycle, but she was in my mind.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rosebud Baker
She was the one that got on the motorcycle with the. With the ballerina that. That drove the motorcycle.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
And they had sex in his apartment with, like, floor to ceiling windows.
Matt Rogers
Oh, wow.
Rosebud Baker
They had the same windows as the friend's apartment.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. They did that, like, completely unattainable thing that some people in New York were living in film and television at that time.
Bowen Yang
Floor to ceiling windows. Yeah, totally.
Rosebud Baker
And I think that just made. That sort of turned me on in a way that, in a theater kid kind of a way, which I have been, I would say, closeted about for most of my life that I was a theater kid now, is that this.
Bowen Yang
Is why you and, like, Greta get along? Cause you can both meet each other.
Rosebud Baker
Theater kids from D.C. yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Damn. That's the common thread.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Two of our greats.
Rosebud Baker
Mm.
Matt Rogers
Two of our greats that grew up.
Rosebud Baker
So it was like anything that was, like, based in New York City. Like, Rent, obviously. Musical. The Zoe Saldana putting out the cigarette with her point shot.
Matt Rogers
That image is very. It's formative.
Rosebud Baker
It's so. But I'm like, that was it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
That was the moment where I was like, I'm fucking cool.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rosebud Baker
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to New York, and I'm gonna be an artist in New York. Yeah. Oh, that's fun. And I was like.
Matt Rogers
And have edge, but also, like, be driven.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. I'm gonna have edge, but I'm gonna, like, eat cotton balls for punch to.
Matt Rogers
Starve myself or whatever soup would be too.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. Oh, I can't.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. No.
Bowen Yang
Dance movies as a genre have really fallen off. I just like, well, we need more of them. Like, the last big ones were like, step Up.
Matt Rogers
Do you want to know what I think? They sequelized them all too much. I think step up, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10. Not 1628. Once you dil, it just feels like.
Rosebud Baker
It'S a toy story.
Matt Rogers
Exactly. I mean, unless you're actually gonna, like, really make them different and change them. I feel like, honestly, they got over.
Rosebud Baker
Franchise also, I think that if you follow the arc of any dancer and their career is going to end way before five movies. You got it. You can't. Nobody wants to see a dancer after retirement.
Matt Rogers
Not only just because, I guess your body changes and gives, not gives up, but, like, is. Is not able to do that.
Rosebud Baker
Your body's washed.
Matt Rogers
Your body's washed.
Rosebud Baker
Your body's washed.
Matt Rogers
After two years in Vegas, hoofing it for Jay to the low, chucking it with JLo. And also, like, the lifestyle. Chucking with JLo. The lifestyle, I guess, also is like, we can't keep doing this.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I can't. Wearing a flat rim hat and doing get right.
Rosebud Baker
No, you can't, you know.
Matt Rogers
Kill yourself.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
But I mean, like, where is our generation? This generation's like, flash dance, Showgirls, Dirty Dancing. Like, what Dance. Is that what you're talking about when you're talking.
Rosebud Baker
Yes, I'm talking about those dance. Where people were having, like, they were in high school and they were dancing up against each other. They were like. They were on teams. They were fighting each other with dance. It was like. It was our west side Story.
Matt Rogers
They Literally did West side Story. But I don't know what it was that it just didn't hit the culture because it was good. But the thing is, you know where those dance moments popped out, which they haven't really done in a few years, are those live musicals that they did, like the Grease live musical that they did on Fox. That was exactly what like Julianne Hough was like made to do. And I'm like, why isn't she the huge like old Hollywood star of these types of movies is? Cause they don't make them anymore.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. I think that people have gotten to. This is just a theory, but I think we've gotten too invested in the villain running the story.
Bowen Yang
Like the antihero, the dark other side.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, we all love the anti hero, you know, and I think we all sort of leaned into the anti hero with Tony Soprano and Breaking Bad and all these. And all of a sudden we were like a dancer who wants to make something of herself, you know, it just didn't. I think we all have just leaned too far into that. So much so that we. Oops. Made one. The President.
Matt Rogers
Right, right, right, right.
Rosebud Baker
I'm like, let's just get back to like fun dance movies.
Matt Rogers
Fun dance movies. I think that it actually speaks to like my. I don't think so, honey. From the other week, which was I need to see animated movies. Disney, whatever for kids. Where the villains die really bad deaths.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Because they used to do it all the time and they got afraid. Cause it's not just anti heroes that we're obsessed with. Also protagonists who are complicated. And the actual. The villain is what's inside. It's her insecurity. It's the fact that she has a weird identity she hasn't come to grips with. That's the villain of the story. It's like, no, give me a fucking one eyed total bitch coming in here. Who wants to kill tktk? It was puppies for Cruella de Vil. They would never do that.
Bowen Yang
They would never do that.
Matt Rogers
There would never be a woman dressed in the animal she killed anymore.
Rosebud Baker
Not for kids.
Bowen Yang
We've had too much. Like these are. If these are the three stories. Man versus nature, man versus man, man versus himself.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Bowen Yang
We've had too much man versus himself.
Rosebud Baker
I'm over it with man versus himself.
Matt Rogers
No, we need to fear the villains of the world because they're out there.
Rosebud Baker
Man versus the algorithm.
Matt Rogers
That is the fourth one.
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Matt Rogers
It's.
Bowen Yang
It's the TikTok dance movie. It's people at a high school, they're all competing for TikTok dances or something, some bullshit like that. And then they find out the real villain is the algorithm or something.
Matt Rogers
Oh, I love that.
Rosebud Baker
Or the guy running the TikTok cult that they're in.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, but here's the thing. We need to reveal it. The movie that the algorithm actually is a person with one eye dressed in all dogs. He's a killer. Like, and we have to watch him be pushed into lava, get pushed into lava. But it's not enough. He's like coming out of the lava and like crocodiles who can swim in lava rip him apart. And we watch it.
Rosebud Baker
He. But first he comes out of the lava with the dog, with the dog costume. He's wearing a crocodile.
Matt Rogers
Exactly.
Rosebud Baker
He's got he's gaze in the mouth and he's like, guess what? I'm wearing this too.
Matt Rogers
It needs to be a 4 minute death scene like what we did to Mikey Madison and once upon a time in Hollywood. Like that. She didn't deserve that. Some of these villains deserve not. Well, actually she was in the Manson family. She did deserve, she did deserve that.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And she was, she was also a ghost face.
Bowen Yang
She Got stabbed in the eye and once.
Matt Rogers
Mikey Madison has burnt to death in two out of, I guess her three films.
Bowen Yang
Ghost Face and Once Upon a Time.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Can I be honest? Have. I did not watch all of Once Upon a Time. I do like certain scenes from it, but mainly I just remember Brad Pitt on a roof.
Bowen Yang
Right.
Matt Rogers
So.
Rosebud Baker
Because I take a photo of the screen in the movie theater, which was insane.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. The man looks good in a lot of positions.
Rosebud Baker
But I was alone in the movie theater. It's not okay. I was literally like, the movie theater.
Matt Rogers
My phone is out. I'm not watching. I should have come. Like, I'm telling you, like, it's for sure. Like, it's really bad. Sometimes I'll pick a movie that I know no one is going to be there for just so I can go to text and dark room.
Rosebud Baker
That's.
Matt Rogers
I don't know what that.
Rosebud Baker
You know, I used to do that when I was having a really bad day. I would get a kara karaoke room by myself.
Matt Rogers
Oh.
Rosebud Baker
And sang by myself.
Bowen Yang
That's amazing.
Matt Rogers
What were you chucking it on?
Rosebud Baker
Just chucking it to, like, the hardest ones, you know, just like trying to belt out a Whitney Houston.
Matt Rogers
Good.
Rosebud Baker
Just give it a shot.
Matt Rogers
So totally vocally push yourself. It wasn't a place where you could, like, you know, rap hard. It wasn't a place for like, whatever. It was about pushing yourself vocally.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. Yes. It was like, I just want to. I don't feel my. My. My sponsor, my therapist. I'm like, there's a lot of. There's a team.
Bowen Yang
The Care team. There's a care team.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. There's the Village. My. My therapist sponsor.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
He was like, you need to like, yell in a pillow every once in a while. That's good because I was telling him how much I related to Walton Goggins in this white lotus. And he was like, yeah, you should probably like, yell into a pillow about that. And. But like, I don't feel comfortable yelling into a pillow. Cause that's insane. So if I go into a karaoke booth by myself, myself. Also insane, but fun.
Bowen Yang
But no.
Matt Rogers
And also so much of why it exists.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Have you ever booked one of those rooms? I think they still have them in New York where it's just like old printers and TVs. And then you have. You take a jackhammer and you just like. It's like you office space. It.
Rosebud Baker
I. Yeah. I've seen a lot of people do that and I wanted to do it so badly, but I was pregnant at the Time. And I was like, this is when I actually need this. And it's not safe.
Bowen Yang
And it's not safe now. If you would, like, let's all go.
Rosebud Baker
Let's do it.
Bowen Yang
I think all of SNL should go.
Rosebud Baker
Yes, yes.
Bowen Yang
That would be amazing. So much.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, my God, yes.
Bowen Yang
You know what I mean?
Matt Rogers
Maybe, like, while they go to the host dinner or something. Yeah, like, you guys just go skip out on a Tuesday. Just take an hour and a half to go, like, yes.
Bowen Yang
Like, truly hammer down on these things. It helps. It really does.
Rosebud Baker
It would almost like, I'll watch that story about Larry David, like, yelling at Dick Ebersol. I'll just watch that when I'm in a.
Bowen Yang
Just the story.
Rosebud Baker
Just the story. And I'll just, you know, of him just yelling and saying this and everybody watching, and then him storming out. And then I just like, stop it. I don't even watch the. How he showed back up on Monday. I'll just be like, yeah, good for you. You know, when I'm in a mood.
Matt Rogers
Totally. But it actually is a thing. I've never really thought about channeling my anger in that way. I know those rooms exist. It was, like, a couple weeks ago, I was working out, and the guy who trains me, we were doing this thing where, like, he would throw a ball to me and I would twist and throw the ball back, and I had to throw it as hard as I could.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And all of a sudden I was like, wow, this is, like, the best and most alive I felt. So literally yesterday in the shower. Do you know what I thought I was like, what if I just went and tried, like, boxing.
Bowen Yang
Oh.
Matt Rogers
Not with another person, just literally just, like, hitting a bag. Like, I actually think I could get into that because I didn't understand. And one of the things I've actually realized in my own therapy over the past few years, and I think we share this, is, like, actually how much anger I have about some things.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, my God.
Matt Rogers
And it's really very useful in, like, a. In, like a.
Rosebud Baker
The way what happened with your voice when you said. Really?
Matt Rogers
No.
Rosebud Baker
Really, really?
Matt Rogers
No, no, I'm telling you. Like, he even said something about it at the trainer. He was like, oh, wow, like, you have some aggression. And I was like, yeah, I think it's really becoming apparent right now. But I thought to myself, like, what if I could just go punch something in a productive way?
Rosebud Baker
But I do think it's a slippery slope. Boxing to MMA to Rogan.
Matt Rogers
You don't. You don't see me Going MMA Rogan, though.
Rosebud Baker
No, but I sometimes I wonder if they. If the two literally are. If it's unavoidable.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Like, no matter who you are starting out, I worry.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
If one day we'll all end up at just different. Different eras at mma.
Rosebud Baker
It'd be so funny if you started boxing and within a year, you were, like, straight.
Matt Rogers
Was like, living in. Living in Austin. Twirling as a slur. Twirling it. It went from hey, mama in the park to you're a faggot in a real way. Living in Austin.
Bowen Yang
Listen, anything possible spinning on his head?
Rosebud Baker
Why is that the way that I think that's the most masculine thing, which it is.
Bowen Yang
We're not disagreeing with you.
Rosebud Baker
What is wrong with me? Spin on it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
I'm really into, like. I think it's Zoe Saldana that did it. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
So then when you move to New York, did that feeling wash over you of, like, I'm Zoe?
Rosebud Baker
It definitely washed.
Matt Rogers
Like it does for all of us.
Rosebud Baker
At some point, obviously. At some point, I was like, I am Zoe.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
But more so than I was like, an amalgamation of these characters where it's like. Which is hilarious because I was just, like, 20 with a drinking problem, but I did feel like I was like, I'm a little bit rent. I'm a little bit center Stage. I'm a little bit Sex in the City. I'm a little bit friends. I thought it was all of those things.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And truth be told, I was none of those things. I lived in a railroad in Greenpoint, the worst part of Greenpoint with my ex and his metal band.
Matt Rogers
Oh, boy. So they were actually living there.
Rosebud Baker
They were living there rehearsing.
Matt Rogers
There.
Rosebud Baker
They were rehearsing. They were. Yeah. It was. It was tough. I. Because I do hate. I hated their music, but I do hate metal in general, but I hated their music.
Matt Rogers
And were you honest about that?
Rosebud Baker
I. I wasn't. Because I. Truth be told, it was that or rehab. So I was like, I have to. I'm like, he. He, like, promised my family he would take care of me because I. I was supposed to go to rehab, and I sort of like, did I Bamboozled.
Bowen Yang
Wow.
Rosebud Baker
And worth it? Yeah. No, I. I definitely took my parents money, and I was. I told them I would buy a ticket to D.C. to go to rehab, and instead I stopped off in New York and I got off the plane and I moved. I moved it. And his metal.
Bowen Yang
I didn't know this about you. That is. That is the Rosebud. Baker story.
Rosebud Baker
So insane.
Matt Rogers
Very Zoe.
Bowen Yang
Very Zoey.
Rosebud Baker
Very Zoe.
Matt Rogers
Literally the energy of ballerina. Slippery, Very Zoe.
Rosebud Baker
But bloated and alcoholic and had not moved a muscle in terms of dance.
Matt Rogers
Oh, my God.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Everybody who moves to New York, it doesn't matter who you are. There's some piece of media and whatever. I'm not saying anything new, but that, like, you just are fantasizing about and.
Matt Rogers
You think you're living. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
For guys, it's like, I don't know, Taxi Driver or something. Maybe. I don't know.
Rosebud Baker
I will say that is. That is a theater guy. That is a theater, straight guys version of a New York City life.
Bowen Yang
Right. And then for, like, women and gay guys, it's sex in the city.
Matt Rogers
Sex in the city.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
But then, so girls hit when we were, like, at the end of college, like, slash. Getting out of college, and we were like, oh, wow. This is like the literal version of what it is.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
The Green Point Metal band is very girls.
Matt Rogers
Very girls.
Rosebud Baker
I was actually Hannah.
Bowen Yang
You were?
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Wow.
Rosebud Baker
I was Hannah. Having terrible sex in an apartment with a boyfriend that was building things. Things.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
For no reason. I'm like, there's nothing to be built. It's a rental.
Matt Rogers
I can't get over that Adam Driver went from playing the weirdest boy in Brooklyn to Kylo Ren.
Rosebud Baker
And you know what's even weirder is that he was hotter to me as the weirdest one. Sure.
Bowen Yang
Of course.
Matt Rogers
Thousand percent. I think that that was the. That was honestly one of the top three things that made that show successful.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Was the debate. Yeah. Yes. Just how reasonable it was that this was the hottest guy all around.
Rosebud Baker
All you wanted was for them to end up together.
Matt Rogers
Weird.
Rosebud Baker
Do I have, like, lipstick, like, caking?
Bowen Yang
Nope.
Rosebud Baker
Okay.
Bowen Yang
You look perfect.
Matt Rogers
But what is it lately about I feel the same way. My lips have been, like. I'm so conscious of my lips lately.
Rosebud Baker
I know. Cause if gross lip is really something that you live with, like, there's not worse. It's bad worse.
Matt Rogers
No, gross lip is worse than bad breath. It's rule of culture number 19.
Bowen Yang
Gross lip is worse than a bad breath. Yeah, I guess so. Mine just chaps the same spot, and I peel from the same spot constantly.
Matt Rogers
Mine gets mealy in the corners. I'm really sorry. That was, like, so disgusting. I. I feel the need to, like, turn to everyone here and say, I'm so sorry.
Rosebud Baker
No, I'm glad you said it because that's what I'm worried about right now.
Matt Rogers
I wasn't thinking about it until you said it, and now I'm self conscious about it. But let's just live in this together.
Rosebud Baker
And if you have Matt, like, Matt Mac lipstick is like, it's great for stage or whatever, but it does. It just cakes.
Bowen Yang
It clumps.
Rosebud Baker
You're like, oh, damn, I don't want to have a cake on my lip. Anyway, we were talking about Adam Driver being hot.
Matt Rogers
Well, I mean. And also, it's funny that you say they were having bad sex, because I remember this must have just been my. My experience at the time. But I was like, is what they're doing really hot? Because remember when he. Because he dated, started dating Sherry Appleby in the show, and then he, like, made her crawl around on the floor and he, like, came on her tits and she was like, I don't like this.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
And I was like, oh, he has that weird sex that he loves with Hannah.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I hadn't even. I guess that was like, why the show was so weird.
Bowen Yang
You needed the character to point out that it was. Label it as weird.
Matt Rogers
No, it was just like, it was. I guess what I was latching onto was I was like, there's really different modes of this. There's no such thing as, like, good sex and bad sex. It's like your sex is your sex. And this guy, his weird stuff, like, works for her. Like, I was never worried for her.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
It just seemed like she was in position where they were figuring it out sexually. But I was never worried for Hannah.
Rosebud Baker
Right. No. Ever. I felt like it was. It was odd to me because I was like, oh, this is a guy who genuinely loves her, wants to care for her, want, like, just loves her.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And for some reason, it's like, sexually, he's like, into this shit, you know? And she kind of always seemed a little bit like. I guess.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, you're right. And that was very early twenties of it. Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Because I always felt like Hannah was going, like, sure. I. You know, it was always. She literally would, like, shrug her shoulders as consent, and then they'd be like, yeah, cool. But it was that. I mean, that's why I. I gotta say, like, when I was watching Girls, and then I think it was like, me too. A few years after that.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And I was, like, rewatching it and I was like, well, this is half of my sexual experience.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Rosebud Baker
As, like. Like, as just a person that grew up when I did.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
So I'm like, so does everything. I literally called my therapist. I was like, I actually just don't have the bandwidth for this.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Said that, or you said, no, I said that. I was like, I don't have the bandwidth to break all this down. I'm just going to kind of push this down. And he was like, okay, wow.
Matt Rogers
It's like, what were we okay with? And what were we just like, oh, I guess this is what sex is. Like, I'll. I'll submit to whatever this is, despite the fact that, like. Because I guess what it was for me is it was. I was like, well, this person that I'm having sex with can't have, like. Like, a real relationship with sex in a way. I don't like a proclivity towards this thing he wants to do. I guess we're just both figuring out, and it must be fine.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And then. Yeah. Wow.
Rosebud Baker
I'm like, sometimes you meet somebody and you're like, well, I was never into this before, but I guess I kind of am with you. Like, you don't. You never know. And then you're like, it's just. It's sort of a mystery that I'm gonna leave unsolved. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
You know, but, like, that show kind of portrayed it in a way that I. I think we probably hadn't seen before.
Rosebud Baker
Absolutely.
Bowen Yang
You know what I mean?
Rosebud Baker
Absolutely.
Bowen Yang
In a serialized way. Like, oh, you can track, like, the sex that Adam was having with this character is not the same as the sex he was having with Hannah. And therefore, that is. Yes, this weird.
Rosebud Baker
Sort of questionable. Yeah, whatever.
Bowen Yang
They definitely didn't do that in Sex in the City. It was always, like, fun.
Rosebud Baker
I know. The sex scenes in Sex and City, when you rewatch them back, you're like, no, it's like, that's.
Matt Rogers
That he. That's not even that. It doesn't even look right. No, it wasn't even staged. Like, all this Samantha stuff is just like.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I don't know. What I loved about girls was, like, it never made an attempt almost ever.
Bowen Yang
To make it look.
Matt Rogers
To make sex look hot or good.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Matt Rogers
It was always weird.
Rosebud Baker
It was always absurd, odd, and clanky.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And like. And, like, that was the whole thing with Adam and Jessa, too. Right. Like, the first time they fucked, it was terrible. And they were so positive it would be good.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
And then it eventually does get good and they get on the same page. But, like, those two characters having bad sex was so. It was such a moment in that show.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
They were chucking it.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, they were really chucking it back at the time.
Matt Rogers
Chucking it is title event. That's What? It is chucking it. It's not. Hey, mama.
Bowen Yang
Chucking it.
Matt Rogers
It could be chucking it with mama.
Rosebud Baker
Chucking it with mama.
Matt Rogers
Chucking it with Mama might.
Bowen Yang
That's the winner.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
People are gonna be like, what's this gonna be?
Rosebud Baker
They're chucking it.
Matt Rogers
They're chucking it.
Rosebud Baker
We're gonna find out. We're chucking it. We're clanking it. I think I said clanking a second ago. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
When I was talking about the sex in girls, I said clanking.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Which it does actually work.
Bowen Yang
It's clanking.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
It's very Judy Garland. Meet me in St. Louis.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang.
Matt Rogers
Wait.
Rosebud Baker
Scarecrow meets Tin Man. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Imagine if they. It'd be terrible.
Bowen Yang
I would watch.
Matt Rogers
I would watch the Scarecrow and the Tin Man.
Rosebud Baker
I Google it. It.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I want to click the link. I'll click. I'd click the link.
Bowen Yang
Whenever.
Matt Rogers
Whenever he sees two hot guys in a picture together, he goes. I'd click the link.
Bowen Yang
Actually, that's really.
Matt Rogers
That is so this. Oh, God.
Rosebud Baker
I click the link.
Matt Rogers
I click the link. He said, it's about me. A picture of me and someone else. The other day, I was like, not you clicking my link.
Rosebud Baker
Not me. Responding to a picture of the baby with that later today.
Matt Rogers
Click the link. Oh, my God.
Rosebud Baker
No, that's not how you do it.
Matt Rogers
I was watching Denise Richards has a new reality show on Bravo. It's like, Denise Richards, like, not on Housewives, but. And she was talking about, like, her daughter joined only fans.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
She kind of couldn't really say anything because, like, she had Hollywood and was doing, like, wild things, etc.
Rosebud Baker
And they have brought it up.
Matt Rogers
Right. And so. Yes. And so. But now on the show, it's like, they're explaining it more. And the daughter, Sammy, was like, well, it would have been fine had you not joined right after. Because Denise was like, well, then I joined OnlyFans because I didn't want my daughter doing it alone. Like, I wanted her to feel, like, empowered.
Rosebud Baker
Denise. Okay.
Matt Rogers
And then. And then the daughter was like, do you know how embarrassing it is for me to have to explain to my friends, like, why you're on OnlyFans? And it's just so funny that culturally that's where we're at. Like, mom, I do porn. Porn is my thing.
Rosebud Baker
Let me do porn by myself.
Matt Rogers
Mom, why do you always have to do porn after me?
Rosebud Baker
I know I was doing porn for.
Matt Rogers
Years before you, but I understand why you're Upset. Honey.
Rosebud Baker
Okay, I do need to watch this show.
Matt Rogers
It's. I actually, I texted all of them.
Bowen Yang
I was like, you told me you.
Matt Rogers
Just want to say, clink, clink, clink. I just want to knock on the door and say, denise Richards is giving something on the show. You click the link. You click the link on Peacock.
Rosebud Baker
I click the link.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Rosemat. Any housewives thoughts you want to get off your chest?
Matt Rogers
Yeah. What's up?
Rosebud Baker
I have so many. I have so many. I feel like I'm really. I've never loved Sutton. I'll be honest.
Matt Rogers
We're having a hard time.
Bowen Yang
We're having. But you're loving her.
Rosebud Baker
I've. No, no, no. I've never loved her.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
But now I am like, you are an evil, evil person.
Matt Rogers
She's the villain.
Bowen Yang
At the very least, she's just broken. You know what I mean?
Rosebud Baker
Okay.
Bowen Yang
Generous, but, yes, I've said evil, too, in the past.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. I just. Watching her sit across from Dorit and do this.
Matt Rogers
Oh, the wallet thing really bothered me.
Rosebud Baker
Like, with the eyes, I was like, calm down. You look like Ramona.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, it was. It was giving Ramona face. Also, if the insult was about, like, wealth in a way that was, like, trackable or actually funny, that would be one thing. But it's like, you need to fight with someone whose wallet fits. It's like, well, a wallet doesn't fit.
Bowen Yang
The premise has to be true.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, the premise has to be true.
Matt Rogers
And I'm just like. And then, like, it was so easy to dunk on her because the rest of the women were just like. Like Kyle said in the after show, she was like, well, then we have to talk about where you actually got your money, which is from a divorce.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
Period.
Rosebud Baker
Thank you.
Matt Rogers
Like, so that's just it. And I was like, do you feel this backed into a corner, or are you just that mean?
Rosebud Baker
Because I think she is that mean. Yeah, I think she is that mean because she's never been backed into a corner once that I've seen. I'm like, except somebody maybe said something about her drinking, but it's like, hello, that's the job.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
But also, she. She. There. There were things to say about her drinking.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I remember the show one time, like, they saw. They showed her pouring, like, a huge cocktail in the middle of the day, and on the bottom handle of the corner, bottom thing, it said 11:45am yeah, it was like the show was it out.
Rosebud Baker
You're like, okay, well, maybe don't do that on camera. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Or. Or if you're going. Yeah, exactly. If you're going to do it on camera, expect that one of your castmates, whose job it is to say something like this.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
May say something like.
Rosebud Baker
And the whole show, the whole premise of the show and the lot. And this is why the logic of it gets so depressing, if you really, like, start to think about it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Is like, you are putting your life out there.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
And you're going to get torn apart. And that's kind of what we do with Housewives. It's fun to do. We feel better about ourselves.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And it's fudged up, but, yeah. It's sort of the last, like, dark, disgusting habit, I think, of, like, this part of culture where it's like. It's. Listen, let's enjoy it while it lasts.
Matt Rogers
It's WWF for women and gays.
Bowen Yang
Yes, absolutely.
Rosebud Baker
100%.
Bowen Yang
And I will say when I did, because I have publicly spoken against Bronwyn on Salt Lake. And I met her finally at the SAG Awards, and then we had this lovely moment and I explained myself and I apologized for all these terrible things that I had said.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I said, you are ultimately a fantastic mother. She, like, shows up to all these rallies where she's supporting her trans kids, and then. And then she goes, bowen, I can take it. This is what I signed up for. I love you no matter what you say. And I'm like, oh, that's actually such a transcendent attitude about it.
Rosebud Baker
That's what I love about Bronwyn. That is what I love about her. I kind of. That was the vibe, at least. I was like. I feel like it's the same vibe off camera.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
You know, whereas Sutton, it's. I'm getting. It's Dr. Jekyll.
Bowen Yang
I was just gonna say yes.
Rosebud Baker
You know, Jekyll Hyde, for sure. I feel like Dorit. I'm really loving Dorit this season. I'm. I'm loving her kind of, like snapping back and getting mad and just. I'm just enjoying that.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. It's because it's real. It's real. That's ultimately what it is, is like the authenticity is kind of. It's like she does. She has no more fucks to give because it's kind of like, you know, this. This job now, the Housewives, is now, like, you know, she doesn't have to, like, think about, like, what her husband's gonna think or, like, pretend at all. She's like, oh, this is the place where I can be my most authentic now. It's not. But I don't have to wait to fight with my husband behind closed doors. Okay, great. Then I'll just say what I feel.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. And she'll be like, hey, little peanut. Anyway, she's a cunt.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
Like, I love that she's, like. She's, like a good mom. She's sweet to her kids. I love the way she talks to her children. I was never talked to like that. I mean, my mom was, like, very sweet and loving and kind, but she didn't call us, like, little peanuts and, like, the little nicknames that. Jackie. Yes. Yes, Jackie. Yes. He just has, like, the cutest little Nick nicknames for them. And I just think that's really sweet. But, I mean, who knows? They'll probably grow up to a resenter for it. It's a.
Matt Rogers
Well, I mean, if it's not that, it's definitely the show at large. Oh, you. Oh, I was a television star at what age? And I didn't know.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
That.
Rosebud Baker
Did you guys watch Potomac?
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Stacy rushes his everything.
Bowen Yang
Rushes my.
Rosebud Baker
Everything's so funny.
Bowen Yang
And I want to say I believe her.
Rosebud Baker
I believe her, too.
Bowen Yang
Really?
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Thank you for saying this.
Rosebud Baker
I believe her because I.
Bowen Yang
Because TJ has clearly shown himself to be, like, a bad.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. Why would I believe this man?
Bowen Yang
Why would you believe him?
Rosebud Baker
What. What about him even read as even a teensy bit believable.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Bowen Yang
And I believe that she's, like, heartbroken over the fact that, like, this guy who, whatever it means to her or to us. Her best friend.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Would then betray her and go on and, like. And, like, tell the man, like, oh, she was paying me to be her boyfriend the whole time. Like, that would be a heartbreaking thing. And she would not know how to. She. She was probably in shock in that moment and did not know how to, like, explain that because it's such a hurtful thing.
Rosebud Baker
No. I feel like the way that she handled it, I was like, you guys are just making her look more innocent.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. And still I rise.
Matt Rogers
And still I rise was a moment in culture history. But I will also say I think it's somewhere in the middle. I think she did not offer to pay him, but it was fake and arranged.
Bowen Yang
Sure.
Matt Rogers
I think the whole thing was fake and staged. Whether or not, like, they made an agreement that money would change hands, I can understand why you guys think that's definitely didn't happen. But I do think that they either did not know each other. I don't even believe that they were best friends. I believe that he was Flown in because he was wanting to do it. He probably was two faced to her as well. I just don't believe it was real.
Bowen Yang
I just think once the show was out, he could not handle the humiliation of people being like, well, he's clearly forgot the others, whatever.
Matt Rogers
Just for the streets and for the guys.
Bowen Yang
And so he probably needed to retaliate in some way, which is to embarrass her.
Rosebud Baker
Right. And. And he did it in a very. May I say, please. Homosexual way.
Matt Rogers
Yes. By calling into the reunion.
Rosebud Baker
By calling into the reunion and being like, run me my money.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rosebud Baker
It's like, okay, now you're just stirring the pot, right?
Matt Rogers
It felt like a flavor I recognized.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. He was dropping tea. He's dropping more tea.
Bowen Yang
Exactly.
Matt Rogers
He was. He was chucking it.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, he was chucking it.
Matt Rogers
He actually chucked it into the reunion. And then when Eddie. Eddie got first chair, I was like, thank God.
Bowen Yang
Thank God. I love Eddie.
Matt Rogers
Eddie's hot. And Wendy had an amazing reunion.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, yes. Yes, she did. What do you guys think of. I don't know why. Her name's Mia. Thank you.
Matt Rogers
Gotta go.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
It's time.
Bowen Yang
It's curtains.
Rosebud Baker
It's gotta go. It's. We're done.
Matt Rogers
I think she probably is because the thing is, like, you can't really just. I mean, she literally just left. And I know Andy hates that.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, right. Like in. In a. In a punitive, like, way, like, I think so.
Matt Rogers
I also think if. If it wasn't that that storyline is like circulatory now and has run its course. And also I do think we've seen all of her tricks in terms of, like, funny things she can say, do, et cetera.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
I think we can lose Mia. And. And also I think.
Rosebud Baker
I think she's just like a straight up villain.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Like, I think it's. You see the good sides of every housewife and you love the good sides of them as well. With Mia, it's just getting harder and harder to understand. Like, where's the.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Where's the side of you that's really. I mean, walking off for her kids? If. If I were to believe that that was. I think it was partly why she walked off. I believe that. But like, walking off was like maybe the most redeemable thing she did where I'm like, okay, yeah, stand up for. Get out of there if you're not. But the problem is I've seen so much of her behavior is like, sort of mean spirited or manipulative that now it's hard for me to believe that when she does something redeemable, it actually is for the right reasons. Sorry to use ABC language.
Bowen Yang
No, no, no. But bachelor language. She. Yeah, her walking off is a redeemable thing, but she still walks off. At the end of the day, she still is pulling away from the whole thing in a way that you're like, well, then you don't. Then you can't. Then you shouldn't be here.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And you're in that position because you did this to your children.
Rosebud Baker
Right.
Matt Rogers
Like, it's like, yeah, sure, you're walking off because. Not my kids, but. But it's like, we wouldn't have a not my kid situation had you not broken the news of the divorce to.
Bowen Yang
The kids on the. On camera.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. It just doesn't really math for that to be the thing that's like. Like as if Giselle had crossed the line. And trust me, like, I don't have love for Gisele Bryant, but my thing is, like, she's. She's expressing her. Her views on it, which were a lot of the viewers, you know, positions, which was. We can't really believe you went.
Rosebud Baker
I'm gonna say I kind of do. Like Giselle.
Bowen Yang
That's okay.
Matt Rogers
And that's a. That's an opinion.
Bowen Yang
Please.
Rosebud Baker
She's such. And that. And that. And that's an opinion. And we're just chucking it.
Bowen Yang
We're just chucking it.
Matt Rogers
Chucking it around.
Rosebud Baker
I'll chuck it. With Giselle, I would. Here's the thing. I think she is. She's a Debbie Downer for sure, But I do relate.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, Giselle.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. As a Debbie Downer, I. I do relate. My problem with Giselle is when she stirs the pot for no reason. And that's.
Matt Rogers
No, that's the thing is, I don't think. She's not a compelling person. Like, I actually think she soars when she's, like, dealing with something personal or with her family, et cetera. Like that. Or when she, like. Like, I thought that.
Rosebud Baker
So psychotic to throw them out of that.
Matt Rogers
Oh, so crazy. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I mean, they got there.
Matt Rogers
I feel like when she seemed genuinely concerned for Karen, I was like, this is the kind of thing that, like, you know, not everyone can do on television. Like, I do think, think, like. And she wouldn't be on television for the song if there wasn't a lot there. It's the very transparent producing that I don't like, and I don't like it when anyone does.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, she does do that. She does do that a lot.
Bowen Yang
And the Karen stuff, I do feel.
Rosebud Baker
Like Giselle probably produces a lot in her own life, though.
Matt Rogers
Like, that's interesting.
Rosebud Baker
I'm like, you're a producer in general.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Because her life is kind of like a reality show anyway. Like. Yeah, with what's his face.
Matt Rogers
Oh, Jamal.
Bowen Yang
Bryan.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, yeah, the guy.
Bowen Yang
The guy. Soapy, soapy, soapy.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah. I don't know. I'm. I've gotten really into Beverly Hills this year and I. And I did enjoy Potomac. I kind of dipped off at the end, but I didn't tune in for the reunion.
Bowen Yang
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
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Matt Rogers
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Bowen Yang
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Matt Rogers
Atlanta had a really good premiere episode.
Rosebud Baker
I heard.
Matt Rogers
I know. I gotta watch it. I will say this. You know what I'll do it for. I don't think so, honey. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bowen Yang
Perfect.
Matt Rogers
It might be time.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, it's time for. I don't think so, Honey. This is our one minute segment where we rail against something in culture. Yes, Rose pets, a vet.
Matt Rogers
Wait, mine is gonna be controversial.
Bowen Yang
Okay, Controversial. You dropped mine.
Rosebud Baker
Wait, so is mine.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Because mine is housewives related and it's gonna be controversial because I don't.
Rosebud Baker
I'm so excited.
Matt Rogers
And it might get me a little bit in trouble, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Okay.
Bowen Yang
This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Matt Rogers
I don't think so, honey. Hating on Portia Williams for the. For the stealing the man thing. I feel like we don't know what happened. And I feel like the thing with Portia is I believe that she is a bleeding heart, and I believe that she is really susceptible to men and their manipulation. And that is not. It's. Sure, it's a character flaw, but it's not an evil thing about her. I think when they. When people are like, she's a homewrecker, fuck her. I don't I the homewrecker label because I think it. It sort of gets across like an evil person that wants to ruin lives. I do not think that's who Portia Williams is. I think that she was in a situation where, sure, she had met a woman's husband on television and then they got divorced. I think a lot can actually happen in 18 days. Maybe you're not a manic Pisces at home, but I can tell you a lot can happen in two or three days. I've been in situations I didn't want to be in, but my feelings in my heart were telling me one thing, and I think it can help happen when you are Portia Williams or Matt Rogers. And if you are, give us our identities back. But I don't think so, honey. Condemning her for this thing, which obviously didn't work out. She's also paying for it now. I don't think so, honey. This attitude.
Bowen Yang
And that's one minute lovely.
Matt Rogers
That's how I feel like. I feel like. Of course, when I heard that Portia had gotten with Simon Gobadia, who's fallen Gobaria's ex husband, like that, soon after, I was like, wow, that sounds like a really weird situation, but I just don't like it when people are like, fuck her. Homewrecker, et cetera. There must have been cheating, et cetera. It's like, you don't know. A lot could have happened in that two and a half weeks afterwards. And matters of the heart are complicated.
Rosebud Baker
I got engaged in three days during the pandemic.
Matt Rogers
There you go. That's what I'm saying.
Rosebud Baker
That I. Some of us cannot sit home alone. Yes, yes.
Bowen Yang
Love that.
Matt Rogers
It was really that. That short.
Rosebud Baker
It was three days.
Bowen Yang
The engagement was three days.
Rosebud Baker
No, no, no. We got engaged within three days.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Rosebud Baker
Like, pandemic lockdown started three days later.
Matt Rogers
That's just what I'm saying.
Bowen Yang
That's great. Know she's a villain if she shows up on the show with one eye and she wears a cape made of dogs and someone pushes her into the lava.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. In this world where villains look like villains from now on.
Rosebud Baker
Please, please, One eyed.
Matt Rogers
My thing is, like, there's real villains out there. One of them is president. Let's not. Let's not waste energy on Portia Williams. Let her ruin her own life. She's gonna do it.
Rosebud Baker
It's episode one, too.
Matt Rogers
I am saying it had an amazing premiere, and Shamina Morton is now, like, the center of show. And I didn't know that she really could carry that center, but I said kudos to them for making that swing because it paid off. It's. She's. I didn't realize that she had all.
Bowen Yang
Of that going on.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
But she's gonna be really fun to watch.
Bowen Yang
I can't wait. I need to watch it too. You're doing a Housewives one too?
Rosebud Baker
Yes. No, I'm not doing Housewives.
Matt Rogers
Okay, so you'll go next?
Bowen Yang
I'll do. I'll do one anyway, because I actually, I have an idea now.
Matt Rogers
Okay, good. This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. Is time starts now.
Bowen Yang
I don't think so, honey. Ashley Darby. Because you know who might have also paid for her significant other? Ashley Darby. Who is that guy? Who is that guy? And she can't even take a joke about how he does look like Jack Harlow. And even if he doesn't, Wendy still made a fun joke. The premise has to be true. The premise is he looks like Jack. Jack. What's a Jack Harlow? And I mean, Ashley Darby. The nonsense you pulled this season.
Matt Rogers
You.
Bowen Yang
You receded so far into the background this season that I forgot you were even on the damn show. You didn't deserve to sit that close to Andy at the reunion. And you should have owned up to the lies you did spread about Eddie, because even though you did not come from you, you helped bring it to a national platform on the show, and you need to take some accountability for that. I've never found you funny. Never found you cute. You look good in drag, I guess.
Matt Rogers
As a man, but otherwise.
Bowen Yang
Guys, I don't care for your antics anymore, if you can even call it that. Congratulations on your divorce being finalized. But even that situation is very telling about the kind of person you are.
Matt Rogers
And that's one minute. Also, the one thing you missed, the kissing with Jacqueline. Kill me.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, my God. Kill me.
Matt Rogers
It was so stupid. It was so dumb and fake and staged. I was like Tell me the best desperate people in the world without telling me.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. The way she walks and she's like, so. Like, I've never seen you two talk.
Matt Rogers
No, never. And I also. The absence of attraction to each other.
Bowen Yang
Truly.
Matt Rogers
You know what?
Bowen Yang
That.
Matt Rogers
What that was giving was Ashley knowing she had no storyline and that the Jack Harlow thing is, like, not real.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And also Jacqueline being, like, something that's not mia. Yes, I'll do it.
Rosebud Baker
What do you want to do? Kiss? We should.
Matt Rogers
And then Ashley being like, no, we don't need a flop. Like. Yeah, totally, totally, totally.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah, totally. I was. Anyway, I'm busy getting ready.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Just think about being a human and, like, walking into that thing with the camera on you and having that stupid interaction. I was.
Bowen Yang
I was like, they called the camera guys into the. Into that bathroom.
Rosebud Baker
I've done student films that were actually less sad.
Matt Rogers
And we're going to show them right.
Rosebud Baker
After this tune in.
Bowen Yang
Okay. This is Rosebud Bakers. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.
Rosebud Baker
Okay. I don't think so, honey. Severance season two's pacing. You guys have the audacity to keep us waiting two years only to drop one episode like, this IS Network Television 1997? I don't think so, honey. We are not on the severed floor, okay? We remember what you did to us last time. I don't think so, honey. We are five episodes in, and what do we have to show for it? A little espionage? A little cryptic workplace dread. That is a Tuesday for us.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
Okay, where is the momentum? What happened? Where's the what the hell just happened energy that we just signed up for? Because right now, honey, it feels like I'm sitting through a corporate training video. And the pacing. I've had actual miscarriages. Move faster, okay? The whole show. Show is just walking, staring, whispering cryptic nonsense like the baby goats. What about the goats? And I swear, if one more character just stares at something for a full 15 seconds instead of saying something, I'm gonna throw my Apple TV remote into the ocean. Okay. I don't. There's so much more. I just. I don't think so.
Matt Rogers
And that's what. Continue on with your thoughts. Yes. Because literally what you have.
Rosebud Baker
I have so much more. I literally am like, I have a lot of feelings things about this because I've stuck with it until last episode where there was, like, four bottle episodes in a row. Are you kidding me?
Matt Rogers
It feels like people are starting to bail.
Rosebud Baker
I'm. I'm getting upset.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And I. Listen, if they can land the plane. God bless them. I will be blown away.
Matt Rogers
I trust them to land the plane. Just because it feels like it's moments of greatness are so great. But I would agree. I. I had a really hard time with the first season because sometimes that was also.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Patricia Arquette literally went to an old, old friend turned enemy who did not want anything to do with her.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Was like, please, I need to borrow your truck. He's like, no, why would I give you my truck? He. She gets in the truck. He's like, okay, yeah, we. I'll drive you somewhere. Then she gets out. She's like, looking for something that she literally contacted a past friend turned enemy for. Walks into the house to go look for it and takes a six hour nap.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Looks for it for two minutes. Take six. Six hour nap. I was like, what? So what is.
Matt Rogers
What are you looking for?
Bowen Yang
I mean, what should I be paying attention?
Matt Rogers
We'll have to hope it pays off. For me, the second season just needs a lot more Patricia Arquette.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Like, that was one of the great things about the first season.
Rosebud Baker
I agree. They needed a lot more Patricia. I mean, what they gave us of Patricia is I. I'm not happy because she's amazing.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And she was so good when she was like, like just female rage behind the wheel of car. I love that. I love a woman on the verge.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
You know, and then this whole episode, this whole thing where she's. They're trying to explain what her whole deal is with Lumen.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And also why the. Why does everybody talk so fucking stupid? What is this?
Bowen Yang
They're severely.
Rosebud Baker
One sentence like a human being. I mean, that's part of why I love that the character's.
Bowen Yang
Character.
Rosebud Baker
Yes.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Where the normal guy, he's just like, what's up, guys?
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Instead they're like, we're going to tend the garden. What garden?
Bowen Yang
What garden?
Rosebud Baker
What even. Where even is that?
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And what about the baby goats? And what about. About the trapdoor or whatever? I don't care.
Bowen Yang
Is it feeling losty for some?
Matt Rogers
Well, I think, I think. Well, it's interesting. Like, I've actually heard that a lot of people that are watching Severance and absolutely loving it are really not liking White Lotus. And I think that you've heard a lot of the same things about them both being slow. So. And then my friend said, Whitaker said this the other day. He went to go watch White Lotus with a bunch of our friends who love severance. And he said they were watching White Lotus. Lotus. Like That's a clue. That's a clue. That's a clue. And I'm like, oh. So I get it. It's like, some people want to watch this, like, it's like a puzzle, and other people want to watch it like, it's like a satirical comedy.
Rosebud Baker
Like, it's gossip.
Matt Rogers
Exactly. And so I am. Give me gossip. Give me my. Like, delicious.
Rosebud Baker
It's so funny because I literally thought when Helena came in, I was, like, good on her. Because the way that I would have been fired for sexual misconduct on day two at that office just to try to make something happen in that drab ass, I'm like, God bless. She's the only person that's made anything happen.
Matt Rogers
But I just think it's, like, it's funny that these two shows are on at the same time and, like, the water cooler shows of the moment, and they obviously come out week to week, which, you know, forbids people from binging them.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
And I think it has something to do with our attention spans that we're saying slow. But also the fact is, like, I guess when there's a lack of prestige elsewhere, we'll. We'll just sit and have to wait. I just think two of them are offering two different. Different things. Severance is a puzzle, and White Lotus is like prestige soap.
Rosebud Baker
Well, Severance needs to release all three of the last episodes together, because, honestly, I need to be able to, like, speed it up myself. Because if it's appointment television.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
And I'm falling asleep in the middle of every episode.
Matt Rogers
Right. That's a problem.
Rosebud Baker
I mean, I will say I'll take 50% of the. That's my life.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Right, right, right.
Rosebud Baker
But, like, come on, come on, come on.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Whiz, bang. Something, something.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
It's a lot of stuff lately. We just watched a movie that was. It promised more action, and it delivered, and I'm like, well, then, I don't know. I think people would sign up for something that was like, a slow burn thing. But, yeah, it is nice to say.
Rosebud Baker
I am a White Lotus girl, though. I love that you said that, because I didn't realize.
Matt Rogers
I was like, I don't even think it's moving slow. It's just. It's funny. The people that are saying it's moving too slow are the puzzle people who.
Bowen Yang
Are watching it who love a show that is moving, that is, in fact, moving too slow. Yes. I'm gonna say something. And this is just the next extrapolation of what I've been saying for years. Chuck, it and chuck it, Netflix has been doing this. I would encourage other streaming platforms to do this. 1.5 speed. 1.5, 1.5, 1.75 speed.
Matt Rogers
Even 1.25.
Rosebud Baker
Wait, no, no.
Matt Rogers
You're anti this.
Rosebud Baker
No, of course I understand.
Bowen Yang
I understand if you're anti.
Matt Rogers
I used to be anti this. Why is it a bridge too far for you?
Rosebud Baker
That makes me so sad.
Bowen Yang
I know, I know, but because we are watching television.
Rosebud Baker
We are not reading.
Bowen Yang
Fine, fine. You're right. Actually, that's a great, great argument.
Rosebud Baker
You know what it reminds me of? Okay. It reminds me of, like when I was drinking, right? I would. If a friend was like, concerned with my drinking, I would adjust my. I would adjust my life to. To make way for my drinking. If we start that with tv, if we start adjusting our lives, make up for our short attention spans. Yeah, that's very slippery.
Matt Rogers
Okay, you're right.
Bowen Yang
I take it back.
Matt Rogers
You know what, though? I will say it's scary. What about for the mind? So. So, yes, for something like prestige, like these shows we're talking about. Yes, that's art. It is paced, it's edited. It's like specifically made for whatever.
Bowen Yang
The pace is relative. And that's why, like, I think 1.5 is fine anyway, initially, but now I take it back.
Matt Rogers
Okay, but I used to really get upset when people said they listened to this podcast at like 1.5, 1 point sometimes. 1.75 a. How are you doing that with how that must sound, really? Like, I'm in my brain all the time and I don't want to be in your brain all the time like mice. I am running that fast all the time. If you can listen to us at 1.75 clinical.
Rosebud Baker
I've been sitting here for an hour looking at you guys going, wow, they're so good at just getting it out. Nine years in the game, talking, just getting it out quickly and quick witted.
Matt Rogers
I have been asked by people I'm on dates with, like, so how. How much dead air do you have to cut out? And I'm like, we don't do that. And they're like, what? And I'm like, yeah, we just pick it up.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, we'll pick it up and we'll keep going.
Rosebud Baker
It's amazing. I was literally talking to Sarah about it this morning. I was like, I don't know. They're so quick. They're so good. I was like, I don't have. It takes me so long to form a thought.
Matt Rogers
That has proven to not be true here today.
Rosebud Baker
Well, because I honestly.
Matt Rogers
You've been chucking it hard and chucking it.
Rosebud Baker
You've been chucking it. But that's because I drink. I was chucking back coffees.
Matt Rogers
You over caffeinated for last couple. Was that something that's less than Sarah told you to do?
Rosebud Baker
No, but I did do it. I did it. When I talked to Sydney, she was like. Because I talked to Sydney last night and she was. She had just come from an espresso and I was like, you're like a different person right now. I love what this is doing for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was like, I just. I feel like I'd really had a good set or whatever. And I was like doing that tomorrow.
Matt Rogers
Oh yeah.
Bowen Yang
He's a Celsius, I'm a Celsius king. I mean the whole office is.
Rosebud Baker
I love Celsius. It's so good.
Bowen Yang
We love it.
Rosebud Baker
It's so good. And it's so much better than coffee because I do just feel like I am on a steady stream of crack cocaine.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
It's just XR extended release.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. Yeah. No, real like. Whoo. Like it just sort of slow up and then.
Bowen Yang
And then you're not.
Rosebud Baker
And you're landing upside down. But it doesn't matter.
Bowen Yang
It doesn't matter on Celsius.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And I find that even the upside down landing is not as bad as like a full on crash. No, it's just like you're upside down but you're kind of still aligned the ground.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Feather.
Matt Rogers
Did you hear Dakota Johnson say she thought it was like a healthy fruit drink?
Bowen Yang
She had 10 of them.
Matt Rogers
She had like six or seven of them. And when. And she was like actually like having a conniption on the set. And she was just like.
Bowen Yang
Cuz.
Rosebud Baker
Cuz no one told her.
Matt Rogers
It's like. No, that's like. It's a lot of caffeine. Even one is like you're gonna be zoom in.
Rosebud Baker
Oh my God. That's my nightmare.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
My. The first time I had five hour energy, I had like a full on breakdown in the street.
Matt Rogers
No, I was like five hour was like. That was an over correct feature before we landed. No.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. It was crazy. That was.
Matt Rogers
It's too much.
Rosebud Baker
It was way too much. It should not have been legal. I think it still is.
Matt Rogers
You definitely can still get it.
Rosebud Baker
I remember like it's a 711 purchase for a reason.
Matt Rogers
And they look like poppers too.
Rosebud Baker
They do, they do. They put them right next.
Matt Rogers
Can I get that little bottle and that little bottle I want to get absolutely amped and dilated.
Rosebud Baker
Oh, God. You hold them both up and you're like.
Matt Rogers
You're like, which one?
Rosebud Baker
Tonight?
Matt Rogers
This has been so fun.
Rosebud Baker
This has been so fun.
Bowen Yang
So fun. The Motherlode. It's on Netflix now. Harmless lady tour. Baltimore. Edmonton, Sacramento.
Matt Rogers
Cleveland. Somewhere in there.
Rosebud Baker
You do have a better memory than you think.
Matt Rogers
No, he's great.
Bowen Yang
That's short term. Short term.
Rosebud Baker
I literally was like, is there a teleprompter?
Bowen Yang
There's no prompter. Oh, and you're going at Heather McMahon's cruise. The absolutely not cruise.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. So many white women with, like, Adele vacation braids. It's going to be a problem. Blum.
Bowen Yang
Oh, you should get them too.
Matt Rogers
You should. Should be like, hey, ladies.
Bowen Yang
No.
Matt Rogers
Is everyone feeling like Adele tonight?
Rosebud Baker
I just like my. Imagine I go in there with, like, full extensions, like, actual wefts of extensions. Trying to braid those.
Matt Rogers
Absolutely. I want them to be really visible.
Rosebud Baker
Yes, really visible.
Matt Rogers
Chunky, visible extension. My favorite thing is, like. Like this someone who. Yes. Someone who either doesn't care or doesn't know that their extensions are wildly out.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. That was me on my wedding.
Bowen Yang
And it's a look. Oh, I bet you looked amazing.
Rosebud Baker
They show up in the pictures.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Rosebud Baker
Yes. I look like Heather on the beach. Heather on the beach.
Bowen Yang
I need to. I need to tell you.
Matt Rogers
I need to tell you. Oh, my God.
Rosebud Baker
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Wow. That made it. Made it even better.
Bowen Yang
Even better.
Matt Rogers
We love you so much. Amazing.
Rosebud Baker
I love you guys. Thank you so much for having me. This fun.
Matt Rogers
This is a joy. While we end every episode with a song.
Bowen Yang
That's right.
Matt Rogers
There's a fire. Wait, hold on. It's Donnie's last day with us. It's Donnie who operates our cameras. It's our last day for us. He's literally the cutest person in the world, so we just want to say he's moving on to another job. And actually, the. The song that we want to sing is what's a goodbye song? I hope you dance. I hope you dance, T. We hope you dance. We hope you do well in finance.
Bowen Yang
Do well in finance.
Rosebud Baker
Yay, Donnie.
Bowen Yang
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Podcast Summary: "Yes, Mama" Featuring Rosebud Baker on Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Episode Release Date: April 9, 2025
Produced by: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts
Title: Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Guest: Rosebud Baker
The episode kicks off with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang warmly welcoming Rosebud Baker, a seasoned stand-up comedian, to discuss her latest special titled "Yes, Mama." From the outset, Rosebud shares her excitement about the project, highlighting the personal and professional journey that led to its creation.
Notable Quote:
[05:30] Rosebud Baker: "I was like, hey, sad news for you. Yeah, I want to get married. So if you don't want to get married, we should just start fucking other people."
Rosebud delves into the intricacies of her special, explaining that it was filmed in two parts—one during her pregnancy and another post-birth. This unique approach allowed her to intertwine her experiences before and after motherhood, providing a comprehensive narrative.
Notable Quote:
[05:30] Rosebud Baker: "So I shot two separate hours. Right. It was like I shot the first hour when I was eight months pregnant... and then shot a second half of it a year after having the baby and combined the two into one special."
A significant portion of the discussion centers around balancing motherhood with a career in comedy. Rosebud candidly shares her anxieties, such as performing on stage while dealing with the inherent vulnerabilities of motherhood. She emphasizes the importance of authenticity in her humor, aiming to resonate with both mothers and non-mothers alike.
Notable Quote:
[07:30] Rosebud Baker: "I have panic attacks while I'm on stage about what? If I had a seizure right now, they'd all think I was doing an act out."
The trio explores their different parenting styles, reflecting on how their upbringing influences their current approaches. Rosebud discusses the impact of her father’s unique comedic style and her mother's artistic background on her own humor and parenting.
Notable Quote:
[12:56] Rosebud Baker: "Because even fully aware they do, but fully aware they exist, your parent jumps out."
Matt and Bowen provide insights into their writing processes for Las Culturistas and their roles on Saturday Night Live (SNL), particularly focusing on the challenges of writing for a dynamic platform like Weekend Update. Rosebud adds her perspective on joke development and the importance of a supportive creative environment.
Notable Quote:
[43:15] Bowen Yang: "Yeah. And keep both hosts happy, making sure that they're getting the jokes that they want off."
The conversation shifts to broader cultural topics, such as the portrayal of comedy in media and the evolution of television shows like Severance and White Lotus. The hosts critique the pacing and authenticity of these shows, juxtaposing them with their comedic endeavors.
Notable Quote:
[51:24] Rosebud Baker: "I think we've gotten too invested in the villain running the story."
In their signature "One Minute Segment," Matt Rogers and Rosebud Baker express their critiques on contemporary cultural issues. Matt focuses on condemning Portia Williams from The Real Housewives of Potomac, challenging the stigma around labeling her as a "homewrecker."
Notable Quote:
[83:01] Rosebud Baker: "I don't think so, honey. Condemning her for this thing, which obviously didn't work out."
As the episode wraps up, the hosts bid farewell to Donnie, their camera operator, who is moving on to another job. They conclude with a light-hearted song, celebrating Donnie’s contributions to the podcast.
Notable Quote:
[98:38] Rosebud Baker: "Yeah. I love you guys. Thank you so much for having me. This fun."
Authenticity in Comedy: Rosebud Baker emphasizes the necessity of being genuine in her stand-up routines, especially when intertwining personal experiences like motherhood.
Balancing Personal Life and Career: The episode highlights the challenges and triumphs of maintaining a career in comedy while navigating the responsibilities of parenthood.
Cultural Critique: The hosts provide thoughtful critiques on modern television shows, reflecting on the state of comedy and storytelling in current media.
Supportive Creative Environment: Effective collaboration and mutual support are crucial in the creative processes of Matt, Bowen, and Rosebud.
"We need to ask you about this. She's on the Harmless lady tour..."
[05:04] Rosebud Baker
"I've had panic attacks while I'm on stage about what? If I had a seizure right now, they'd all think I was doing an act out."
[07:30] Rosebud Baker
"It's like, you can build your own fan base..."
[10:54] Rosebud Baker
"Man versus the algorithm."
[52:55] Rosebud Baker
"The premise has to be true."
[38:37] Rosebud Baker
This episode of Las Culturistas offers an insightful blend of personal anecdotes, cultural critiques, and comedic banter, providing listeners with both laughter and thoughtful commentary on the intersection of culture and personal growth.