
This week the boys close the book on David Parker Ray a.k.a. The Toy-Box Killer, focusing on the latter half of his secret life of crime, the details behind his smarmy band of accomplices, and the story of the unbreakable victim who helped put the killer behind bars.
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Ed Larson
This is the last on the left.
Marcus Parks
That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? No, no, it's nothing. But this guy. No, I don't want a single rub. If you could not throw up a single visual reference today, that'd be great, you know, because this is the last one. This is the one we want to get super visual. Yeah, I think that's where we're really gonna start turning the audience.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, I mean, I wouldn't. Have y' all both seen Cindy Hendy?
Marcus Parks
Oh, yeah, that's. What?
Henry Zebrowski
Have you seen Cindy?
Jesse Ray
No, I haven't.
Henry Zebrowski
I actually would like Ed to see Cindy Hendy.
Marcus Parks
You know what she looked like? You know, I'll put this way, she looks like Janice from the Muppets. But like, if Janice from the Muppets had an endless hole for.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah.
Jesse Ray
Is she the super tough chick?
Henry Zebrowski
No, Cindy Hendy is the accomplice, the girlfriend.
Jesse Ray
Okay.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. You want to pull up Cindy Hendy.
Jesse Ray
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
You watch out.
Henry Zebrowski
That's her.
Marcus Parks
Yep. She looks like Janice from the Muppets if she had an endless hole for dick.
Jesse Ray
Janice is beautiful.
Marcus Parks
That's Janice from the Muppets, if that was a person.
Jesse Ray
There's no hippie in this woman.
Marcus Parks
Yes, she's unfortunately the most hippie you've ever met.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, unfortunately, this is the end result of hippie. Like, if you don't stop hippie and you just kept like, you know, they say a copy of a copy of a copy. You know, when you keep making, like, copies of something that eventually you get something, like, awful. That's what Cindy Hindy is with, like, Pink Floyd fans.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
I just don't believe either one of you.
Henry Zebrowski
She's got the. Well, she's got the Janice jaw, You know, like those big gigantic lips and.
Marcus Parks
The same shape of head.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
She got this. Got a lima bean head and she's got the kind of straw hair. And so she does kind of look like Janice. And I know she does. I just put her in there like.
Jesse Ray
Janice, leave Janice out of this. Janice is a wonderful Muppet.
Marcus Parks
You just don't want to get Disney IP angry.
Jesse Ray
No, I don't care about the Disney IP getting angry with me.
Ed Larson
She is not Janice. Look at Janice.
Jesse Ray
Janice is gorgeous.
Henry Zebrowski
It looks exactly. They look exactly the same. They look so similar.
Marcus Parks
Janice has no eyes.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
I mean, Janice. Yeah. This woman has no good teas.
Ed Larson
She's not wearing a hat.
Marcus Parks
My God.
Henry Zebrowski
I can't believe you can't see it. Welcome to last podcast on the left. My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with Henry Zabrowski. I would say I the correct Henry Zabowski.
Marcus Parks
Thank you.
Henry Zebrowski
We're on the same side here today, finally.
Marcus Parks
And I just want to say today's episode is dedicated to Julie, your wife. This is a huge get for this, for this show, and it's your anniversary and congrats.
Jesse Ray
I've already told her she's not allowed to listen to these episodes. Every time she wants to talk about these episodes, I'm like, baby, you're going to cry.
Henry Zebrowski
You're not going to like it.
Jesse Ray
Tell you about what we're talking about.
Marcus Parks
I got into it about the tapes, too. I did some information when you were talking about finding the 50 minute tape versus the four minute tape. So apparently the. There is some chatter around which one is genuine and which one is not. So the 50 minute one apparently was written. Was. Is the full transcript, but it is not. His voice sounds like him. It's not, though. It's an impersonator. It's somebody else doing the voice.
Jesse Ray
Jeff Foxworthy, I hope.
Marcus Parks
Oh, my God. Jeff Cox.
Ed Larson
You wake up strapped to a table.
Marcus Parks
You might be inside the toy box.
Jesse Ray
With us.
Henry Zebrowski
We all. We all also have the. The comedic chameleon, Ed Larson.
Ed Larson
How you doing, everybody?
Jesse Ray
This can't get over fast enough. Thank you, Marcus, for handing in the longest script you've ever given me.
Ed Larson
Yeah, it really is.
Henry Zebrowski
It really is the longest one. I've written since we started working together. It's real thick by a couple pages.
Marcus Parks
But the 4 minute video is his voice. So that actually is David Parker Ray. So they are both. It's half real. The 50 minute one is like half.
Jesse Ray
So that's just the transcripts of the tape.
Marcus Parks
That's where we got all the information about the dog fucking and all that kind of stuff that we. That came out that we have not necessarily added back into this episode. Yeah.
Jesse Ray
But what I would say I did he in this.
Marcus Parks
Excellent. And I want to make sure that we don't leave anything out and it's not really.
Jesse Ray
We'll get it done.
Henry Zebrowski
I still left quite a bit out.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, I know, I know.
Jesse Ray
There was a couple times and I.
Ed Larson
Was like, man, does this need to be in there?
Henry Zebrowski
It does. Welcome to Toy Box Killer Redux Part two.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So when we last left David Parker Ray, he and his daughter Jesse had just captured, tortured and raped a friend of Jesse's named Kelly Garrett over a period of three days in David's infamous toy box. Upon her release, David had given Kelly a heavy dose of psychotropic drugs that scrambled her short term memory into an amorphous blob of unknowable trauma. David then drove Kelly, who was a newlywed, back to her husband's house and himself. David's drugging method was successful because Kelly had no memory of what exactly had happened to her over the previous three days. But Kelly's husband didn't believe her story at all. He instead chose to think that Kelly and Jesse Ray were trying to somehow scam him. That didn't even get. Didn't really get specific with it. Just like, I don't believe it. You're trying to get money out of me. Kelly's marriage was therefore annulled and she moved away from Truth or Consequences with nothing more than the feeling that something absolutely terrible had happened to her after she'd gone out drinking with David Parker Ray's daughter Jesse.
Marcus Parks
This is probably a terrible way to introduce this character, but we thought about me and Eddie had a really funny idea on the road about the idea of me playing the character David Porker Ray. Yeah, Fat David Parker. We started doing the jokes, right? So at side stories we. We were doing a couple of these jokes and you know, let me. We're like, all right, so hey, you may have found yourself in a situation you can't get yourself out of. Now you're gonna have to choose mayonnaise or light mayonnaise.
Jesse Ray
You hungry bitch.
Marcus Parks
Hey, Bitch, you ready for some pizza rolls? I sure am. I've had 25 already for breakfast. I had some for lunch, and I'm about to have some for dinner with you.
Jesse Ray
Bitch, I know what you're thinking. Your cholesterol is already really high.
Marcus Parks
The problem with the character is that the tagline and all of the punchlines. Take. Hey.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, that's. That's the thing that was going to be the. The. The note that I had every single.
Marcus Parks
Time we were doing. Hey. Like, no, no, it's hard.
Henry Zebrowski
It's really hard. It's. It's not pleasant to listen to at all.
Marcus Parks
No, I.
Jesse Ray
Well, I always pictured myself as the person strapped to the table.
Marcus Parks
Of course, yes, you should, but you.
Henry Zebrowski
Should have led with that. If it's. If it's that, then it's funny.
Jesse Ray
All right, so now picture that picture. I'm the one strapped to the table.
Henry Zebrowski
And I'm going, hey, yeah.
Marcus Parks
Everyone's laughing. See? Everybody laughing.
Ed Larson
You don'.
Marcus Parks
Happens to a man.
Henry Zebrowski
Hey, I know you're thinking, how long has it been since my last meal? How long will it be until my next meal?
Ed Larson
See, he's getting it.
Henry Zebrowski
Okay, now. Now I'm in. Now I'm in.
Jesse Ray
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I am hungry.
Marcus Parks
Don't worry. You have your anniversary dinner soon.
Jesse Ray
Oh, I can't wait for my nice Californian dinner, Ma.
Henry Zebrowski
Jesse was just the first of many known accomplices who would join David Parker Ray in his incredibly wide array of sadistic criminal activities. Accomplices who would participate in way both large and small. These partners in crime, however, would share something in common with the people they victimized. 201. Each of the people we're going to discuss today could be described as lost souls, lost to substance abuse, sexual addiction, violence, or a combination of all three, plus a few things extra. In other words, these were all people who had fallen through the cracks. And it's in those cracks that people like David Parker Ray and his accomplices thrive because they've also lived most of their lives in those same places.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, I own land inside your crack yeah, you come on, slip down find me. Also was working on my. Hey, Diddy. Diddy. That's my Texas. That's my Lubbock accent.
Henry Zebrowski
It's your Lubbock accent.
Marcus Parks
Didi.
Henry Zebrowski
Diddy.
Jesse Ray
Hey, Diddy only knows one word.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. And it's also not even close to correct, buddy.
Marcus Parks
I watched the Poop Cruise documentary last night, and the mother's from Lubbock, Texas, and I swear she was like, I knew I needed to get him home to his dd. Literally what the lady kept saying. I knew I had to get her on from that poo poo cruise to back to his daddy.
Henry Zebrowski
I would say she probably moved to Lubbock from somewhere else.
Marcus Parks
I think maybe from Bitchville.
Henry Zebrowski
Are they always hungry there?
Marcus Parks
Yeah, I guess. I guess.
Ed Larson
According to the bit.
Jesse Ray
There'S a poop in the bag.
Marcus Parks
Poop in the bag. Honestly, that's so unreasonable. It wasn't that unreasonable. We'll get whatever.
Jesse Ray
I'd have been so excited. I love the poop in the bag.
Marcus Parks
Say that's literally all I was talking about last night. We'll save this side stories.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, the first accomplice we're going to discuss today is a local named Roy Yancey. Born in 1971 to a conventionally quote unquote good family in Truth or Consequences. But Roy's parents split up when he was young and by 16, Roy's life had gone off the rails. Now Roy did take drugs and drink like most of us did in high school, but Roy also found that very special niche that a lot of bad, angry kids found in the 1980s. A niche that would both terrify their parents and give the kids a way to make the themselves feel powerful.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
See, starting in the summer of 87, Roy and his high school friends began pretending that they were members of a satanic cult by desecrating graveyards, tagging pentagrams on buildings around Truth or Consequences and holding so called black magic rituals in the nearby Sierra Mountains.
Jesse Ray
What were their rituals consist of?
Henry Zebrowski
Unspecified. Probably just a bunch of kids chanting while, I don't know, listening to probably the most satanic music they had. Wasp.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Like, like Motley Crue. That's pretty evil.
Marcus Parks
Venom then.
Henry Zebrowski
They didn't know Venom. They didn't have Venom and Truth or Consequences. You guys have no idea how hard it is to find good music out there in the fucking wasteland.
Jesse Ray
Yeah, there's no specs out there.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, that's why you get a lot of like people playing the Belly Button.
Henry Zebrowski
I'll tell you how fucking isolated it was. I did not Hear Nirvana until 1993. Whoa. Two years after Nevermind. And that was just because a kid from Washington state moved to our town and like brought his CDs with him. I didn't know Nirvana existed until I was 10. Like that's, that's how isolated this is.
Marcus Parks
That's amazing.
Henry Zebrowski
And that was in 1993? Yeah. This is 87 this. Five years before that.
Marcus Parks
It's kind of amazing that they figured out how to put together a ramshackle satanic ritual that way. Honestly, it's kind of inspiring. But just so you know, anytime anybody mentions Satanism ever, and of course is my job here is just remember that these children don't know what they're doing. They literally were children that were trying to. To scare adults. And it worked.
Henry Zebrowski
And the thing is, is that they're also, they're probably taking all of this imagery from the news reports and all the satanic panic bullshit that's talking about satanic cults being a problem.
Jesse Ray
Yeah, it's like in the 90s when kids in Boca Raton, where I grew up, are drawing anarchy A's on their notebooks. It's like there's nothing anarchy about you. You live in Boca Raton, you're going.
Marcus Parks
To school, you're in history class.
Jesse Ray
You have to turn this in later.
Henry Zebrowski
Quite a few kids in America spent their teenage Years in the 1980s Spray painting Pentagrams in abandoned houses because they were bored and frustrated. I in fact saw many remnants of this trend all over my area, Texas, when I was exploring abandoned structures not too far from New Mexico in the 90s and 2000s. But Yancey's crew either took their satanic cosplay too far, or Yancey found that Satanism was a convenient cover that he could use to dress up his violent urges in something that supposedly had meaning. See, in 1987, in the days leading up to Halloween, Yancey and his friends went on a canine killing spree by poisoning dogs who were exclusively owned by people with surnames starting with the letter R. Then the so called satanic cult left the dead bodies of those dogs on the owner's doorstep. Yancy and his friends subsequently bragged to the other kids at school that they'd sacrifice these animals in rituals that were supposed to summon the devil to truth or consequences.
Jesse Ray
Why they are.
Henry Zebrowski
It's a random fucking thing. It's just one of those things. It's like just a weird thing to choose.
Jesse Ray
Do you think it's a coincidence or. They definitely chose that.
Henry Zebrowski
They definitely chose that. But as to the reason why, who the fudge knows?
Jesse Ray
The one thing I think you did get wrong though is that Yancey is actually pronounced Yancey.
Ed Larson
Roy Yancey. My name. My name's Roy Yancey. Hello. I'm evil. You better boost believe it. It's me. Fancy.
Jesse Ray
Yeah, I'm sorry to correct you, but.
Marcus Parks
You'Re right, you're right.
Henry Zebrowski
I bet you never thought that a.
Ed Larson
Roy Yansy could be a prince of hell. But Here he is. I Prince, New Mexico. Hello.
Marcus Parks
I wonder.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
You're going to tell your compatriots like you're in truth, you're in toc, you're in T orc, whatever they call it. Tc, right. And you go up to your gimme like, you know, me and my friends.
Ed Larson
We went and we made a ritual to bring the devil here to trc.
Marcus Parks
And they're all like, I thought the devil was already here. It's my daddy.
Ed Larson
Yeah, that's work.
Henry Zebrowski
Now this supposed satanic cult must have been getting the type of attention they wanted from their fellow students because they soon began planting pentagram covered letters inside the lockers of female students. It said that the cult had pledged themselves to sacrificing a virgin.
Marcus Parks
And you better fix that by sucking my dick. You're safe. Oh, my penis made you safe.
Henry Zebrowski
Terrible.
Jesse Ray
Yeah. I don't think that makes her not a virgin either.
Marcus Parks
That's the idea is that if you make them. But if you, if you start with the blow jobs, you work up the vaginal sex, then she's safe from the devil and she's your girlfriend.
Henry Zebrowski
But outside of these fairly typical if distressing high school pranks, Yancey and his friends were also connected to a string of burglaries in the area in which a fair amount of guns were stolen. The local DA actually formed a task force to investigate because he was worried without evidence that their local satanic cult was stockpiling weapons for nefarious purposes.
Marcus Parks
Oh yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Now his only reason for thinking this is fear, because I can think of dozens of terroristic attacks perpetrated by gun toting Christians all over the world. In fact, I think the number one spot is held by a very Christian man. But I can't think of a single instance of a mass shooting or a terrorist activity being perpetrated by a Satanist or a satanic group. It's just not their style.
Marcus Parks
We stay inside largely. We are, we're difficult to get around. A lot of you see a lot of chronic illness.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
And then you see a lot of just, just straight up, I don't want to fucking. I don't even care enough about you to kill you.
Henry Zebrowski
Mobility issues do factor in.
Marcus Parks
It does. And, but it's like it's that idea. Satanists don't care about you, so why would they kill you?
Jesse Ray
And it's hard for them to shoot guns with all their fingerless gloves.
Henry Zebrowski
And the rings, my God, the rings.
Jesse Ray
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Revenge will come for you do to worry.
Ed Larson
But first.
Marcus Parks
Those dragon wings hurt. They Hurt.
Henry Zebrowski
But in the end, while the task force didn't find any guns, nor did they find a satanic plot, they did hear that the satanic group may have been led by an older man named David. And it has been speculated that this David was David Parker Ray. But this makes little sense because this was the exact same time period that David Parker Ray was being heavily investigated for human trafficking by the FBI. And it's very hard to believe that David Parker Ray would be sending high school Satanists out on missions to steal guns while the FBI was on his ass.
Jesse Ray
Also FBI, bad job.
Marcus Parks
Super bad job.
Jesse Ray
You know, I try to root for you, but this is, you know, is a bad check.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, they really fucked this up.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, actually, I think on this one, I don't think, I don't think he was trafficking women to Mexico. I think that was something that his. I think that was something that his daughter made up. And that's specifically what they were, what they were investigating. So I think on this one I'm not going to give the FBI a pass necessarily. But they, they were investigating what they were investigating and they didn't find any in any evidence.
Marcus Parks
It makes total sense. And it almost sounds like, almost in a way that they were told specifically to look for the wrong thing.
Henry Zebrowski
I mean, it wasn't that they were told to look for the wrong.
Marcus Parks
There's massive group rapes happening inside of the little toy box. So you figure. But that was the thing that someone could look at.
Henry Zebrowski
But that was five years before he built the toy box. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's like he didn't build the toy box. He didn't build a toy box until 1991, maybe 1993. And this all occurred in 1987. This was back when the FBI was called on David Parker. He was still splitting time between Phoenix and Elephant Butte. He hadn't even moved to Elephant Butte permanently.
Marcus Parks
Damn.
Henry Zebrowski
Which also tells you that he had nothing to do with fucking. He didn't have enough of. He didn't have enough roots in the town to build a rapport with high school kids to turn them into little Satanists. Like it's fudgeing. It's ridiculous to think so.
Marcus Parks
I'm sorry. FBI, always.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, while Roy Yancey never went down for satanic gun trafficking, police did arrest him and his friends after they broke into their English teacher's home so they could leave a rotting dog penis on the teacher's computer keyboard as a so called satanic warning.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, read that.
Ed Larson
Watch how great that Mr. McClancy it's a little bit of dog penis all the way straight from the backyard.
Henry Zebrowski
But as it is with many of.
Marcus Parks
These incidents, the teacher just picked it up.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, today, class, we are going to be talking about the beauty of the phrase dead dog's cock. Now, please, can anyone tell us why this phrase is aesthetically pleasing? They say it's celador. I say dead dog cock.
Marcus Parks
Actually, give me the dead dog's cock. I've had a bit of roast biff for lunch. Ah, it's in between my teeth.
Jesse Ray
Please, the key of D.
Henry Zebrowski
But as it is with many of these incidents, the dog penis was just a smoke screen. It's a smoke screen for their ultimate goal, which was the $3,000 in property that they stole from the teacher's home. And for this, Yancey and his buddies had to spend time in juvie and write a lengthy essay on the history of Satanism, which, depending on how much they hated homework, could have actually endeared them more to the ideology.
Marcus Parks
Honestly, you sit them down with the Satanic Bible and they start read reading. And really as how the tenants are actually quite humanistic and very interest interesting. It might actually really help their empathy in many ways.
Henry Zebrowski
It might. But it didn't.
Marcus Parks
Nope.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
It didn't take.
Marcus Parks
No. It didn't work. No.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Now, Roy Yancey did clean up his act a bit when he did a stint in the Navy during the early 90s. But when he returned to Truth or Consequences.
Ed Larson
Hello, sailors. I'm ready for the high seas. Let's go. Hoping for World War Three. Oh, we're going to the Persian Gulf. That sounds like a quiet place for Roy Yancy. Roy Yancey, love of the desert.
Henry Zebrowski
But when he returned to Truth or consequences in 1995 at the age of 24, the allure of the party lifestyle was too much for Roy Yancey to resist. Yancey began heavily using acid and heroin, and his penchant for partying, paired with his increasingly adventurous sexual appetite, caused people around Tiercy to refer to him regularly as Toy Boy Roy.
Marcus Parks
You just sat on my.
Ed Larson
Yo yo.
Marcus Parks
No.
Henry Zebrowski
Roy Yancey and Toy Boy Roy are two entirely different people.
Marcus Parks
Hello.
Jesse Ray
Same voice, though.
Marcus Parks
Same voice.
Ed Larson
Toy Boy Roy, I'm here for you. I'mma expand your vagina with this big gaping dildo. Hello. Knock, knock. Here comes Toy Boy looking for the vagina.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, since Roy Yancey was enough of a fixture in the Tier C party scene to earn a fun nickname, he eventually ran into and became friends with who else but David Parker Ray's daughter, Jessie Ray Sensing that Roy Yancy had just the right pep in his step that her father liked, Jesse introduced Yancy to David, which is a far more likely introduction story than the previous assumption that David had been the shadowy ringleader of Yancy's high school satanic cult. But. But no matter how they were introduced, Roy Yancey had by late 1995, become a regular fixture on the local saddle masochistic party scene that centered around David Parker Raid. This was when Yancy was in his mid-20s. Yancey, in fact, understood and accepted the dangers of being in such a scene because he once admitted, and this is actually much funnier with the voice, once admitted to a friend that he was tied down and anally raped with a broomstick at one of David's parties. And yet Yancey kept returning.
Ed Larson
Hello? Second. I'd like a second plate. Hello. Come on. That's not how you clean a butt. Hey ho ho. Who ordered this? Made broomstick. Do you think you could get one of the plastic ones? The woods got splattered. Uh oh. Uh oh. Get the dust pen. Hey ho. I mean use the hoe. Uh oh. Thinner rud flies from your grave.
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Henry Zebrowski
Now, Yancey was one of the more sexually adventurous members of the Truth or Consequences scene because Yancey was openly bisexual. As such, Yancey befriended, and presumably considering the evidence, had a sexual relationship with a 42 year old truth or Consequences gay man named Kenneth Lee lane in late 1994. But the reason why I mention this is because the evidence shows that this relationship ended with Lane's death. And it's very likely that Roy Yancey was the one who killed him. Now, Kenneth Lee Lane, according to his neighbors, often had what they called strange music blasting through his walls. Lane also kept a fair amount of women's wigs in his apartment, as well as a large cardboard cutout of Elvira, which, from what I've learned from years of watching Drag Race all spells drag Queen in letters 500ft tall.
Marcus Parks
I just think he was a sensitive man that liked to party and he just happened to like something that wasn't Merle Haggard.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, it's the music, it's the wigs, and it's the Elvira. Yeah, dead drag queens love Elvira.
Marcus Parks
Oh, I know.
Henry Zebrowski
Massively so.
Marcus Parks
Oh, I know.
Jesse Ray
Also, strange music is probably just like, what we call decent music.
Henry Zebrowski
It's probably just good disco.
Jesse Ray
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And indeed, Kenneth Lee Lane may have participated in whatever drag scene nearby Albuquerque may have had at the time. But Roy Yancey allegedly put an end to whatever fun Kenneth Lee Lane might have been having in a most brut fashion. See, Yancy was leaving lane's apartment on December 26, 1995, and the neighbors remembered that Yancy had left the apartment with an unusually large smile on his face.
Ed Larson
Good morning, Mr. Peterson. Oh, I see the lawn's looking nice. I'm on my way to the ice cream parlor. Bye. Bye. Happy Boxing Day. Can we please get rid of that guy?
Henry Zebrowski
It took six days before the smell of decomposition began to seep through to the next apartment through the heating vents. And when police broke the door down, they found Lane's dead body in the front room. But in another instance of homophobic cops writing off an obvious murder, as these gays sure are weird, Lane's death was ruled as accidental. This was despite the fact that Lane's autopsy revealed that he had died from metal poisoning because an assortment of nuts and bolts were found in his stomach, in addition to a doorknob being shoved in his rectum.
Jesse Ray
It's an accident.
Ed Larson
Oh.
Henry Zebrowski
You know how these guys, these gays with their hardware parties where they all show up and they just. They eat wrenches and they eat nails and nuts and boats and stools.
Marcus Parks
And the thing they say to each other is, how do we make each other furniture? And that is one of the worst things you could imagine a man wanting to be a lamp. What did.
Ed Larson
What.
Marcus Parks
What are our boys killing children of Vietnam for?
Jesse Ray
I've been trying to tell these gays.
Ed Larson
Use your hands to open the door. We played a game of Lion Witch in the Wardrobe, trying to see if I could turn him into a magical closet.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, when the landlord cleaned out Lane's apartment, he discovered some old blood spatter patterns, drawings of pentagrams on a table, and a few black candles. Now, we know this is probably just harmless experimentation, getting witchy on the weekends, as people like to do. But the rumor began to spread that Lane had been killed in an occult ritual.
Marcus Parks
What would these fuckers have thought of my house? Walk into my house? I just. I would just, I guess, look like King of the La Pedophiles, right? Like the evil pedophiles and all this. Like, okay, Prince. Yeah, Prince.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Too many pentagrams. No, I do remember one time we had hired someone To. To clean our apartment in New York. And the lady left immediately after walking into my office because. Without saying a single word. Because it scared her so much.
Marcus Parks
Good.
Henry Zebrowski
I felt bad. I felt so bad. I just wanted to say. It's like. It's ornamental.
Marcus Parks
My. My wonderful handyman. We work together all the time. Archero is a genius, but he literally was like. He pointed once. He was like. El diablo said, see? And estacasta. El Diablo is bueno.
Henry Zebrowski
But even if Lane had been killed in an occult ritual, then the cops had a suspect with a history of using occult trappings to intimidate others. Roy Yancey. And Roy Yancy was the last one who saw the deceased alive. And yet it would be another 13 years before the.
Marcus Parks
Crazy.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, another 13 years before the case would even be investigated as a murder. And that was, of course, after David Parker Ray and the rest were caught. Now, there's really no mystery as to whether or not David Parker Ray and Jesse Ray committed murders in the toy box. And that's because Roy Yancey told investigators that he participated in a murder inside the toy box when it was very much in Roy's best interest to say that he was not involved. As the story goes, a 21 year old mother of two named Marie Parker went missing after hanging out with David, Jesse and Roy in 1996. Marie was another lost soul who'd run away from T or C at the age of 14. But she'd returned to town pregnant after five years of drifting. Drifting? Marie met David Parker Ray's crew.
Marcus Parks
Not Tokyo drifting?
Henry Zebrowski
No, no, Southwest. Southwest drifting. Much worse.
Jesse Ray
It's on a horse and buggy, right?
Marcus Parks
I think it's in a. Or maybe shopping cart or a hand cart. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
No, it's. It's in the. It's in the bed of a truck. Well, Marie met David Parker Ray's crew through Jesse Ray. And within months of entering their circle, Marie had smoked enough meth to become homeless. She also began dating Roy Yancy, but the two of them broke up when Marie tried getting clean.
Ed Larson
I don't like you sober.
Henry Zebrowski
David Parker Ray, however, gave Marie an army tent. And he let her stay on his campsite by the beach at Elephant Butte Lake. But from what it sounds like David, Roy Yancey and Jessie Ray were merely saving Marie for a Fourth of July special. Now, if Fourth of July at Elephant Butte Lake in the 90s was anything like my childhood holidays at Lake Stanford during the same time period, the environment would have been absolute heaven for a chaotic soul. I mean, these are the best Memories of my childhood.
Marcus Parks
You see you like this. This sounds deeply frightening. Like this.
Henry Zebrowski
These type of parties are easily the happiest times of my childhood. Is like the 4th. The 4th of July and the time surrounding 4th of July at the lake.
Marcus Parks
Why? Because you just let out to do whatever the hell it is you want to do.
Henry Zebrowski
Pure fucking chaos everywhere. Yeah, Fourth of July in these southwestern lake towns during the 90s. Utter fucking mayhem.
Jesse Ray
I mean, I just think it's the 90s because I remember spending 4th of July up in Jersey, and that's when I learned that you can shoot bottle rockets out of PVC pipes, but not in a good way. Yeah, I learned that in a way that was very damaging to me. But I was like, you know what? I'm gonna use this on my. Someone else.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, yeah, dude. I mean, thankfully, all the scars that I had from this time period are all healed up, man.
Marcus Parks
I had a lot of them.
Henry Zebrowski
A lot of burn. A lot of burn scars. I mean, every document had a pile of fireworks being set off without any care for safety, and every adult was too fucking drunk to supervise or even care about what the kids were doing. Today, we call it neglect. Back then, we called it fun.
Jesse Ray
That's right.
Henry Zebrowski
But I only bring that up to demonstrate that these places in this period of time were pandemonium factories, and some very dark shit could go down amidst the noise and spectacle. Now, pretty soon after the Fireworks ended on July 4, David Parker Ray arrived in in a furious mood at the campsite where Marie had been living in David's army tent. See, the night before, Marie and Roy had rekindled their relationship over a meth pipe with Jesse, and they'd all made quite the mess as a result. As was rare for David, he lost his shit and yelled at Jesse in front of everyone that she, Roy, and Marie were jeopardizing his good reputation at the Parks Department. This, of course, also gave David justification for what he and the others were about to do to Marie, because David could now paint Marie as a quote, unquote problem. According to Yancey's confession, Marie told her brother that she was going to Blue water Saloon on July 5 to score meth, which is where she ran into Jesse and Yancy. Unbeknownst to Marie, though, Jesse and Yancy had arrived there that night specifically to find her peekaboo. After a few minutes of conversation, the trio hopped in Jesse's truck and drove to the local cemetery to engage in the long and storied Southwestern tradition of doing a meth deal in a graveyard. Oh, God. I don't know why, but yesterday I just became obsessed with the phrase meth deal in a graveyard. Meth deal in a graveyard. I just kept saying it over and over again. Meth deal in a graveyard. I loved it.
Jesse Ray
Well, now you need to write an album, dude.
Marcus Parks
That's your.
Henry Zebrowski
That's my debut album. That's your Badlands best Deal in a graveyard. Yeah, okay.
Marcus Parks
That's your Strip down in a hotel room with just a drum set and your voice.
Henry Zebrowski
I start from that point and build. Yes, but once they got to the cemetery, there was no meth deal to be had.
Marcus Parks
Came all the way out here, and I'm. I'm tired, y'.
Ed Larson
All.
Henry Zebrowski
Instead, Jesse took out a handgun and handcuffed Marie while Roy Yancey stood nearby to make sure Marie didn't run for it. After Marie was subdued, she was driven back to David Parker Ray's toy box, where Jesse and David let her inside. Now, Roy says that he didn't participate in the torture and rape of Marie Parker, but he fully admitted that he knew what purpose the toy box served. And he could certainly guess at what Jesse and David were up to in there for three days straight.
Ed Larson
Give me three guesses.
Henry Zebrowski
But while Roy claims he didn't enter at any point during the rape and torture, he was invited inside right at the end when Jesse and David told Yancy that it was time for Marie to go. So at midnight on July 9, Roy entered the toy box to find his sometime girlfriend naked, blindfolded, gagged, and bound to a cot. Jesse then handed Roy a rope and told him that he knew what he had to do. I suppose, figuring he was in too deep as an accomplice at this point, Yancy began to choke Marie with the rope. But as we all know, death by strangulation, even with the rope, can take an uncomfortable amount of time. Especially if your heart's not in it.
Ed Larson
Stop looking at me. Stop watching me. I can't be micromanaged like this.
Henry Zebrowski
When things weren't moving along fast enough, Yancey put his knee on Marie's chest for extra leverage and used every bit of his strength to choke the life out of her body before she finally went limp. After Marie was killed, the three conspirators wrapped her naked corpse in a blanket and snuck it out to Jesse's truck. Under cover of darkness, the body was loaded up and driven with fair certainty to a remote area north of Elephant Butte, a place called Monticello Canyon. And when I say with fair certainty, I mean they knew exactly where the they Were going. Yeah. Roy watched Jesse and David unroll Marie's body from the blanket before hurling it off the side of the ravine. But after the body landed at the bottom, Jesse and David scrambled down to conceal the corpse in a burial mound of sorts with loose gravel. Once it was all over, David and Jesse told Roy Yancey that if he told anyone about what happened that night, he'd be the next to die.
Jesse Ray
So they never found that body?
Henry Zebrowski
That. No, they never found that body even.
Jesse Ray
Though they know where it is.
Henry Zebrowski
It is suspected that David Parker Ray later moved it.
Jesse Ray
Okay.
Marcus Parks
Yes. And then who knows, someone who could also. Animals could have got to it, you know, maybe, who knows, just loose gravel.
Jesse Ray
Coyotes just ripping it apart and this man.
Henry Zebrowski
And out there it's nothing but coyotes. There's coyotes everywhere. So yeah, quite possible that. And there's also big cats. There's a lot of things that could have got to that body and drive.
Marcus Parks
Some dogs, a lot of birds, there's some snakes, rats, four pound scorpions, lot of stuff.
Henry Zebrowski
Now Jesse and Roy probably paranoid from the meth and filled with the urge to leave because they were the last people seen with Marie Parker. They drove thousands of miles the very next day to the Texas coastal town of Galveston where they basically lived homeless on the beach for the next year. Wow. Yeah, well, it was one of those things where like Roy Yansy came back. He's like, I, you wouldn't believe it. I lived with homeless people on the.
Ed Larson
Beach the whole time.
Henry Zebrowski
That means that you sir, were homeless.
Ed Larson
No, I was just roommates with a homeless person. I know that the distinction is hot.
Marcus Parks
Understand Turning a master, that's like what this voice is. Master shake. Hello.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, it is a bit of a master shake. Yeah. Well, as it turned out, there really hadn't been a lot of heat to escape in the first place. Marie had been reported missing even before Yancey Murderer. Yes. But very little was done after the police found her Geo Metro abandoned in the parking lot of the bar where she'd last been seen alive. In fact, the official file in her disappearance didn't even name Roy and Jesse as the people Marie had left with. They didn't even get the genders right. Instead, the report said that Marie had left with two cowboys in a two tone brown pickup. One of Marie's friends did say that she knew that Marie Parker was dead after Marie Parker went missing. And she also said that she knew Jessie Ray probably had something to do with it. But as it has happened countless times and will have happened countless times more, Marie Parker was deemed not worthy of a full investigation, partly because the cops had been told that she'd been out looking for drugs on the night she went missing. Now, while Jesse Ray and Roy Yancey are certainly villains in their own right, they both, at the very least, seem to have shown at least the tiniest bit of reluctance before fully crossing over into David Parker Ray's world. That, however, was not the case with David's future girlfriend, Cindy Hindi.
Marcus Parks
It seems that whatever goes along with a predator person's choice of victim, like the way that they do that, it actually also kind of is the same way that they choose accomplices, because the same way that they can suss out who they can sort of con, they sort of also can kind of suss out who's got that X factor that's like me very much so. And Cindy Hendy just like arrived picture perfect.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, yeah. No, they. They can definitely tell who's safe to let in.
Marcus Parks
Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, by the time Cindy Hendy showed up in Truth or Consequences at the age of 37 and it. That was a hard. 37.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
She was what you'd call a permanently out of pocket human being. For example, Cindy had fled to New Mexico in the first place from Washington state because she disobeyed a court order to enter rehab. Cindy had already spent some time in prison. She didn't really want to go back to prison, but she also didn't want to. To slow down the partying. So Cindy abandoned her two children and headed straight for the town of Truther Consequences, where Cindy knew she would be amongst other similarly outof pocket individuals.
Marcus Parks
She literally probably looked at a map and just like, it's like, oh, yeah, sure, what you want? I'm trying to do. What's my Janice voice? What's the Janice voice?
Henry Zebrowski
She's sort of honky. Yeah.
Marcus Parks
So it's like the idea she just was like, where God go get the most up.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah. She's more like, yeah, man. Like, that's how I'm like, yeah, man, let's do it.
Marcus Parks
Let's go to true the consequences, man. That's how I. Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
That's how I imagine.
Jesse Ray
Oddly enough, best thing that happened on those kids.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Seriously. Yeah. Dodged a bullet.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, they did visit Truth or Consequence. One of them visited Truth or Consequences once, but called her her grandmother after, like two days and said, get me the out of here. This is. These people are abusing me and this is a hellish nightmare.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, we don't like it here.
Jesse Ray
It's all consequences.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Now upon her arrival in T or C, Cindy Hendy quickly established a partying reputation that was considered hardcore even amongst local standards. Cindy came to be known as Six Pack Cindy.
Marcus Parks
Oh.
Henry Zebrowski
Because a six pack was all you needed did to get with Cindy.
Marcus Parks
Cool.
Jesse Ray
Self explanatory.
Henry Zebrowski
Cindy was also rumored to be earning money through sex work. But she claimed openly and loudly, she never had to worry about being arrested because she, quote unquote, had something on most of the police and businessmen in Truth or Consequences.
Marcus Parks
It's chlamydia.
Henry Zebrowski
I got some.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, man, I got it on him.
Henry Zebrowski
I got it in them.
Marcus Parks
I got it everywhere on there on the sheets on my left.
Henry Zebrowski
Cindy's arrival in town, however, was somewhat serendipitous. See, David Parker could have never handled a woman like Cindy with his chronic impotence.
Marcus Parks
Hey, spaghetti disease downstairs. That don't mean I got meatballs upstairs.
Henry Zebrowski
But in 1997, right around the time Cindy showed up, David Parker Ray very unfortunately received a prescription for Viagra.
Marcus Parks
Dudes rock. Hey, that's awesome. Thanks to Pfizer, we also reach out. Honestly, we heard last podcast and left. We want to say thank you, Pfizer, for all of the wonderful things you've added just to our show today.
Jesse Ray
And this is back in the day when people were still getting. When sex. Registered sex offenders were still getting Viagra off of their government insurance.
Henry Zebrowski
Really?
Marcus Parks
Yes.
Jesse Ray
It stopped in 2005.
Ed Larson
Wow.
Marcus Parks
You know what though? A couple of years of freedom, that's all we can guarantee here in America. God, can you just imagine being. Being. Because that's what's hard. Is that like, even as a h.
Jesse Ray
How you going to say it?
Marcus Parks
The idea of start my day hard as an offender, it's just like you're already going to get hard. You're definitely going to get super, super hard over something super inappropriate. Why you getting extra hard on it?
Henry Zebrowski
But no, that's the thing is that David Parker Ray didn't get hard and he was, but he was still an offender. So getting hard doesn't necessarily correlate to being an offender.
Marcus Parks
Chill, Andre, chill as well.
Jesse Ray
Yeah, there was so much Viagra everywhere back then. I remember, like we used there used. It used to be all over my school in high school, around this same time period.
Henry Zebrowski
That's insane.
Jesse Ray
It's really crazy. I remember we talked one kid and then taking it before football practice, he.
Marcus Parks
Had to go home.
Ed Larson
Weird.
Marcus Parks
Oh, man, my.
Ed Larson
My phone cup, man, my cup is.
Marcus Parks
Filling up, dude, I got to go. Oh, yeah, man, that's evil, dude.
Henry Zebrowski
No, David, before the Viagra. He'd always seemed kind of standoffish to his co workers at the park. They all considered David to be a bit of a loner, kind of a dull guy. But mostly David was seen as a scrounger who was concerned with taking home broken equipment and spare parts from around the park. Little did his co workers know, however, that David was actually using those abandoned and broken components from Elephant Butte State park to build the majority of his homemade torture devices. But once David started taking Viagra, his fellow employees said that David became much friendlier and was much more talkative about his sex life.
Marcus Parks
How do y' all dating, huh? It sucks. The apps. What do you even do? Everybody's talk going on about height, right? A bit of a sharp dress, man.
Henry Zebrowski
He was. He got. He started adorning himself in turquoise jewelry. He started wearing cowboy hats. This is all the want of your average new Mexican whitey. He just finally had the money to do it.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. And the dick. Now it's been the hardest parts, honestly, because I hate being a hypocrite and I don't want to be some big old dandy man if I'm not just using a mutant power drill and a tied down woman. Now at least I can get hard as well. Watching it all happening. God damn it. Has done so much for my self esteem.
Jesse Ray
That's right. And no one else has done well for my self esteem. Is these rattlesnake suspenders?
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Viagra may cause many side effects. Effects including. I'm David Parker Ray for Viag.
Marcus Parks
For Viag, a Pfizer company. I take nine every morning. I hang out in the toy box and wait.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, not too long after David got his Viagra prescription, Roy Yancy and Jesse Ray felt comfortable enough to return to TRC from Galveston. Jesse moved back in with her father, Elephant Butte. While Roy Yancy got a roommate in town.
Ed Larson
This is Shelly, my roommate.
Henry Zebrowski
Jesse and Roy also quickly rejoined the T or C bar scene. There they met and bonded with new arrival Cindy Hendy. So quickly that both Roy Yancey and Jesse started dating Cindy at the same time. And all three of them would go back to David Parker Ray's trailer to fuck.
Jesse Ray
So Cindy was dating everybody?
Henry Zebrowski
Well, at this point she's not quite dating David Parker Ray yet. She starts with Roy and Jesse.
Marcus Parks
So she's his daughter and his co killer. Okay.
Henry Zebrowski
And then she graduates to him eventually. Yeah. She's got to work her way up to Davy. I mean, yeah, you can't go after the big dog first.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, dude, no, you got to show you got the middle so you can handle it. Sure you got enough vagina now the.
Henry Zebrowski
Arrival of Cindy Hendy into the T or C party scene is one of those chance meetings that would feel like destiny if the only consequences for the stars aligning weren't just women being raped and murdered. That's true poetry, actually. I think it shows shows that synchronicities do not make distinctions between good and evil. Well, Roy Yancey, he soon began bragging to his friends that Cindy Hendy liked being handcuffed and beaten up. But Yancy soon discovered that Cindy, she also not only liked it the other way around, but she liked it the other way around. Non consensually. Roy Yancey would wake up in the middle of the night to find Cindy beating him. And once he was jolted awake, he would find that Cindy had handcuffed him as well. So Roy had no choice but to let Cindy satisfy herself so he could eventually be let free. Now, as we said last episode, David Parker Ray could be very charming in his own Elephant Butte fashion. But once Viagra came into the mix, David gained a newfound confidence. As such, David and his daughter Jesse began inviting swathes of local women and tourists from around the T or C area onto David's sailboat where they would take long expeditions that were women only. Except for Dave. It These expeditions came to be known as ladies days. But the reason why I bring up ladies days is because ladies, Ladies. Ladies days is just. It sounds like. I mean. Yeah, well, ladies days, it just sounds like. Yeah, all those ladies, like, they used to have like wild horse prairie days back home. Like there's always the days that this one's awful.
Marcus Parks
Many ladies own each day, many days. So it's ladies days. Every day has many ladies ladies and there are many dates.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, the interesting thing about the days is that sometimes the days will be only one day.
Marcus Parks
Yep. Yeah, but that is. But then there's a series of them throughout the month.
Jesse Ray
Well, with all these drugs he was giving them, it could have been D.
Henry Zebrowski
A, Z, E. Well, very true.
Marcus Parks
Very cute.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, the reason why I bring up. Yeah, that's the cutest roofy joke I've ever heard. But the reason why I bring up ladies days is because on one ladies day in particular, David gave one of his passengers insight into why none of the bodies of David's victims have ever been found. On one voyage, David began a conversation with one of his young female passengers by pointing out the deepest areas of the lake. Which in my opinion leans on the implication a little too hard.
Marcus Parks
It's not flirting.
Henry Zebrowski
No.
Jesse Ray
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, after pointing out the deepest point of the lake, David began pontificating on the best ways to dispose of a human body within said lake. He told this young girl that a man could open up the chest of a corpse and fill it with rocks as ballast.
Marcus Parks
Okay.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, theoretically.
Jesse Ray
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And theoretically, the chest cavity would then need to be bound tightly with chicken wire so the rock chickens.
Marcus Parks
God.
Henry Zebrowski
That way the rocks can never come loose. Theoretically.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, it sounds good theory.
Henry Zebrowski
And finally, the body would be dropped overboard to sink to the bottom of the lake where David said, quote, the catfish would enjoy. Boy, a three star meal.
Marcus Parks
That sounds like fun. I want a nice meal. I like catfish.
Henry Zebrowski
You know, it's interesting to me that he chose three star.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
He doesn't even appreciate the meal.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, that's the thing, is that he knows that it's not the best meal that a catfish could have.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. Best thing a catfish can eat is cornmeal, which tells you that he thought.
Henry Zebrowski
About it a lot.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Like how now when I'm putting all these women, it's like how the catfish feeling about it.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Are they liking it?
Marcus Parks
Are they?
Henry Zebrowski
Now, Roy Yancey was also invited on David's boat from time to time. But being bisexual, Roy would also sometimes bring his roommate, a guy also named David.
Ed Larson
This is David because Roy twins.
Henry Zebrowski
Because Roy was also banging David. Now roommate David immediately got the shiver jimmies when he met Jesse and serial killer David. And he tried his best to get Roy Yancey to stop hanging out with him. Roy, however, insisted.
Ed Larson
Nah, they're cool.
Henry Zebrowski
And he therefore kept up the friendship that's actually like, nah, they're cool.
Marcus Parks
Whatever. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, if a friend is telling you that your other friends are bad news and it's not like a Valley Girl situation where they just don't like his clothes or where he's from.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. It's not making fun of him for.
Henry Zebrowski
Having androids like, don't be stubborn. Because there's a big difference between he's bad because he dresses weird and he's bad because I get the feeling that an ancient evil lurks within his soul.
Ed Larson
That's what I like about him.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Just because someone's nice to you and if everyone else says they're horrible, just give it a leather lesson.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, yeah, just think about it.
Henry Zebrowski
But despite his own warnings, roommate David figured, all right, it if you say they're cool, they're cool. But that surrender led roommate David into being a witness to some pretty up and highly incriminating on serial killer David's boat one dark evening.
Marcus Parks
Hey Roy, just so you know, Roommate day. Dave doesn't really want to be key witness. Dave. Okay, so let's get the hell out of here. I have no idea what I'm even doing in this town, but I do.
Jesse Ray
Like being on a boat.
Marcus Parks
This is nice. I always said you never do anything nice, we never do anything nice. So in this I have to give you credit, but otherwise it's a bad boat.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, during one particularly boozy night, Roy and roommate David were invited to a party on David Parker Ray's boat. Along with Jesse Ray Ray, Cindy Hindy, some dude named George.
Marcus Parks
That's George.
Henry Zebrowski
And a woman named Angelica Montano. Before long, the partygoers were smoking dope, drinking beer and whiskey and in some cases shooting heroin. All while David Parker Ray blasted Pink Floyd on his big ass battery powered boombox 90s style.
Marcus Parks
One of these days I'm going to cut you up into little pieces.
Jesse Ray
Oh yeah, that is a Pink Floyd line.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
No, I mean but these guys just.
Marcus Parks
Hello? Is there anybody out there? Yeah, sure.
Henry Zebrowski
Just that over and over.
Marcus Parks
Oh yeah, very much. All the, all the spacey stuff. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But it must be said that while David Parker Ray might have supplied the drugs during these parties and he may have been a notorious chain smoker, he was never seen drinking even so much as a single beer himself. Same thing they said about Manson. Manson was at least near the end. Manson was always sober.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. David Parker Ray is the same way.
Marcus Parks
Judge John Wayne Gacy.
Jesse Ray
I thought he was hammered on coke and weed all the time.
Marcus Parks
He would, but then sometimes he would. He knew that he had a bunch of dudes and he'd pretend to drink. Oh yes.
Henry Zebrowski
It depended on how. With Gacy it depended on how on his toes he felt like he needed to be. Yes. And David Parker Ray felt like he needed to be on his toes all the time because he was a true predator. He was always looking out for that opportunity and I think with him because you know, on these boat, on the boat, the crazy thing about it is that they said that like hundreds of girls came onto David Parker Ray's boat and nothing happened to him.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, they just wait. He just took money from him. Essentially he used it as a little.
Henry Zebrowski
Job, if even that, like sometimes it was just hanging out with David and Cindy on the boat. With David Parker Ray, he I think stayed sober at all times so he could be clear headed enough to recognize if he could attack a woman and get away with it. Like he didn't want to make. He didn't want to make any foolish mistakes.
Jesse Ray
Now, a lot of these guys drink afterwards the copy. Did he do that even? Or staged over the whole.
Henry Zebrowski
Totally sober?
Marcus Parks
Oh, no. He didn't feel guilt. There's no guilt here. No, no. He believed that all humans were tools to be used.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, as it almost always went with a David Parker Ray party, shit started getting dark. When the clothes started coming off, Jesse, Cindy, and newcomer Angelica all began stripping. But very suddenly, Angelica, who was almost certainly on heroin, she found herself being handcuffed and stretched out on a long table by Cindy and Jenny. Jesse, as roommate David looked on in stunned horror. Jesse quickly grabbed a camcorder and began videotaping while Roy Yancy grabbed a cattle prod to shock Angelica's genitals while Cindy held her down. Now that is indeed up. But what's almost just as up is that Roy Yancey was surprised to see that his roommate David held the opinion that tying a drugged naked woman down and shocking her genitals with a cattle prod was a fucked up thing to do.
Marcus Parks
I thought we were going on the wine tour. I thought that we were gonna go.
Ed Larson
To a spa or something.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Then Roy's like, what's the big deal?
Ed Larson
This is what we do for fun here. We're on the boat. Yeah, we're sailing. It's lady these days. This is how you sail?
Henry Zebrowski
No, he did actually tell him. He's like, oh, no, it's just a sex thing. Like, what are you freaked out about? People like this. People like it. They enjoy it. Come on.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, I mean, technically, if everybody's consenting, it's fine. You just need to sort of to clear that with everybody.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. But roommate David was like, I don't think she's consenting. I don't think she wants to be. I don't think she wants this to happen to him.
Marcus Parks
No, I don't think so.
Jesse Ray
Also, at the very least, the word cattle should never be brought into a sexual situation.
Marcus Parks
Unless, of course, people like to zap their. Their penises and their vaginas. I've seen it. People do it.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, people do it. People. People sometimes love it.
Marcus Parks
Quesar, you know, ain't gonna yuck your yum.
Henry Zebrowski
But in the end, Angelica survived the night and woke up in a terrible state after the abuse she suffered. She was, however, too afraid to go to the police. And her incredibly intense drug addiction would ensure that this was not the last time she would cross paths with David Parker Ray's crew. See, from what it seems like Cindy and Jesse used Their gender as a sort of lure to make girls like Angelica comfortable. As always, it's the same game played by so many other couples who kill. Basically, having a girl present makes a possible victim. Victim more likely to take a chance. And they are therefore more likely to get in the car with the creepy old man. And to that point, as I said, David, Cindy and Jesse regularly brought home young female hitchhikers. And a girl who spent a lot of time on David's boat said that it was possible that hundreds of other girls may have passed through David Parker Ray's world with varying degrees of molestation and murder.
Marcus Parks
It was his entire life. Yeah, he dedicated every.
Henry Zebrowski
Why he moved to Elephant Butte.
Marcus Parks
Yes. He dedicated every minute of his life. Life to his. To the sexual game.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
And it. It is. We've covered a lot of guys, we've made fun of them.
Henry Zebrowski
We've.
Marcus Parks
You know, we've always kind of talked about this idea, especially with serial killing. It comes out of extreme mediocrity. This is no different. But David Parker Ray was actually, unfortunately, very good at this. And this is an example of somebody that went a real long time without anybody being caught. And it's kind of one of those really very scary things of how many other David Parker Rays were out there and are currently out there.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, David Parker Ray was caught at the age of 59, and he built the toy box, I think around the time he turned 50. So, you know, there was still, you know, 49 years. Who knows what the fuck he was doing? Like, you know, we talked about it a little bit last episode, but there's really not a whole lot known. Known about his life up until that point. And, you know, there are a lot of these guys, as you said, are born out of mediocrity. I don't think David Parker Ray was. I think David Parker Ray lived life exactly how he wanted to live it at all times and was very pleased with himself because of it. And that's fucking terrifying to know that there's many men out there like that now. By Halloween of 1998, David Parker Ray and Jesse threw a small party at their trailer that supposedly included a black magic sacrifice to the Devon. Cindy was reportedly all in when it came to black magic after Roy Yancey had allegedly introduced her to the occult. And she was excited that David had picked out a dress specifically for her to wear that night. This night, it seems, was a turning point for Cindy. It could be that Cindy Hendy saw David Parkeray as the more powerful man in the group because it was around Halloween of 1998. That Cindy stopped seeing Roy Yancey. So she could move in with David David on a casual basis. Although Cindy was also still seeing David's daughter Jesse. So to make it absolutely clear for those of you not familiar with these sorts of situations, Cindy was casually living in David Parker Ray's double wide. While carrying on a sexual relationship with both David and David's own daughter. All while they lived in the same domicile.
Marcus Parks
It's a family of things. It's a family.
Jesse Ray
Barely a door in that place.
Henry Zebrowski
And a double wide. Yeah, they got a couple of bedrooms in a double wide.
Marcus Parks
Hey, when daddy and daughter are the same person, who needs a door? Who needs all that soundproofing? It all is. It's his daddy teaching daughter.
Jesse Ray
It's. I don't know why I thought he had a home, like a house.
Marcus Parks
That trailer's home.
Jesse Ray
I meant house. I meant house.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah. Double.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Double wide's definitely a home in double. Double wide's. It's pretty big.
Ed Larson
You can really knock it in there.
Marcus Parks
You can really nail it into the ground.
Jesse Ray
It's twice as wide.
Marcus Parks
I get it.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. And God, it's so long. It's wide. It's long. Footage in a double wide is surprising.
Marcus Parks
There's a lot of stuff you could do in double wide.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, even though Cindy was now technically with David Parker Ray, the new living situation didn't preclude Roy Yancy from engaging in sexual dalliances with Cindy. Cindy within said double white. That November, Cindy hired the local grocery store owner, a guy named Rick Hart, to take some sexy shots of her in David's trailer. Because Rick the grocer also thought of himself something of a photographer.
Marcus Parks
Yes, I got my wins. I take pictures of two. Four. One squash. Two for one squash, huh? I come, I take naked pictures of your father, daughter, woman.
Jesse Ray
Excuse me. Did you take the pictures of these grapes?
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
You like the shine? You like the grease on them?
Jesse Ray
Listen, I think I have a. This seems crazy to ask, but let me guess.
Marcus Parks
You're your father's girlfriend, huh? And you want me to take nude pictures of you, your father and your daughter in all one. One big kind of triangle.
Jesse Ray
Oh, my God.
Marcus Parks
I will do it for free. You just please. Two for one squash.
Jesse Ray
I'll buy the squash.
Henry Zebrowski
What a salesman. Well, Rick the grocer obliged and took some very flesh world like photos of Cindy.
Marcus Parks
Play with your father's balls.
Henry Zebrowski
These are solo shots. This is just Cindy in the trailer by herself. Like new.
Marcus Parks
Very close, very classy.
Henry Zebrowski
But When Rick came back a few nights later to deliver the photos, Cindy. Cindy was waiting with David and Roy Yancey. Rick the grocer was instructed to take photos of all three of them being intimate with each other. So Rick happily obliged by shooting images of Roy sucking Cindy's nipple while Cindy was naked. All while David looked on from the cuck chair with approval.
Marcus Parks
Hey, hey, David, bigger smile, big smile. You love to watch the nipper get sucked.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, it ain't getting any bigger than this. It ain't getting any bigger than this.
Marcus Parks
Neck.
Henry Zebrowski
It ain't getting any bigger.
Marcus Parks
Okay, now, Roy, when Isaiah was a sucker nipple. What I need to do, you put entire breast and mouth. Suck whole breast into mouth.
Ed Larson
Okay? I don't need you breathing down my neck.
Jesse Ray
David, what is this looking on your face? Are you sleepy.
Henry Zebrowski
Now? Later, Rick would defend his photos of Cindy as tasteful sexy.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, those.
Henry Zebrowski
Those are his exact words.
Marcus Parks
You can barely jerk off. You could barely jerk off so much class.
Henry Zebrowski
He said that his work in the trailer was more akin to college girls flashing at spring break. Which to me means that Rick the grocer would also describe a girl's Gone Wild tape as tasteful sexy.
Marcus Parks
One of my favorite food videos I've ever seen. It's the. You got these two young ladies and they have one cup that they share, and the man comes in one provides some butt ice cream to the cup. I love it. It's.
Henry Zebrowski
Have you heard of this? Do you know about this?
Marcus Parks
Talk about taste for sexy. Because everybody's getting a taste of it.
Ed Larson
You know what I'm saying?
Marcus Parks
Squash two for one. You want to some of these old grapes?
Henry Zebrowski
But Rick, he wasn't turned off by the photo shoot at all. He actually got to know his clients pretty well over the next few months or so. He thought. He actually believed that David Parker Ray was the victim here. Here. Because in Rick's view, Roy Yansy and Cindy Hendy were taking advantage of a sweet, if incredibly horny older man in his late 50s.
Marcus Parks
You stop fooling that big tall drifter. I see the two of you. I see what you do. Man with silly voice, lady who looks like Muppet. I see what you do. And you know, you should start taking advantage of that very kind man. Very nice man who new broomstick. I asked him to. I asked, I begged him to.
Henry Zebrowski
David, you come now. Live with Rick. You now live with Rick. You come with me now.
Marcus Parks
Come with me now. This is what I call grapes. This is what I call meat. We all call them grapes.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, Cindy did not keep her exhibitionist image impulses to the trailer. And as an out of pocket person, Cindy didn't seem to be able to control these impulses no matter where she was. One of the best examples came from one of Cindy's friends, a woman named Jean, who said that Cindy showed up to her house in December of 1998 just as Jean's kids were trimming the Christmas tree. Cindy arrived in the afternoon with a girl named Trish, but both of them were already highly intoxicated.
Ed Larson
Hi Meow meow me. Merry Christmas. It's not fucking Christmas unless you're drunk by four. Yeah, Merry Christmas.
Henry Zebrowski
Relatively quickly, Cindy was lifting up her shirt to show her bare breasts, which were heavily bruised from the extensive use of a bondage suction device.
Marcus Parks
This is a sucking device.
Henry Zebrowski
As the children looked on in wonder, Cindy began making out with her friend and it was at this point that Gene asked them to leave.
Marcus Parks
Merry Christmas. It's been a fun night. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you so much for the gifts. They're going to love the little baby bottles of Smirnoff. Get out of here. My favorite murder F. Me too.
Henry Zebrowski
I say it all. I say it to myself all the time.
Marcus Parks
Get out.
Henry Zebrowski
Get out of here.
Marcus Parks
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Henry Zebrowski
Permanently with David Parker Ray in January of 1999. She decided this was the guy for her because really, David Parker Ray, by Elephant Butte standards, he's a catch. Yeah, you know, he's not. He's got most of his teeth, he's got a really well paying job. He wants to take care of you.
Jesse Ray
A toy box.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, a full on man and honestly, a double wide. That's two more than one.
Henry Zebrowski
But one question listeners might have is how David Parker Ray was able to hide his activities in the toy box if the trailer was plopped down right there in the front yard. Well, the simple answer is he didn't. By the time Cindy moved in, David had already spent months carefully training her on the best ways to help him kidnap and torture a woman. But notice that I said training, not grooming. David didn't have to groom or convince Cindy of anything because for her, the whole toy box experience was absolutely thrilling. Consequently, after Cindy moved in, she told David that they should kidnap a woman soon so they could experience these thrills together. As far as who their first victim together would be, Cindy, or at least the first one we know of. Cindy looked through her contacts and came up with the woman that they'd previously victimized on David's boat with the cattle problem prod, Angelica Montano. See, Angelica had stayed friends with Cindy even after the attack on the boat, which a mutual friend of theirs had chalked up to a shared interest in drugs. Cindy and David had drugs, so Angelica looked past what had happened on the boat to get the drugs. So In February of 1999, Angelica was speaking with Cindy on the phone, and Angelica lamented that she couldn't afford to buy her boyfriend a cake for his upcoming birthday. This innocent lamentation became, for some reason, the needlessly complicated web that Cindy would use to entrap Angelica for the purpose of sexual slavery.
Marcus Parks
Not through cake.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes, it's all through cake. Cindy promised to give Angelica a box of cake mix that Cindy had at her trailer if Angelica agreed to meet with her and David at the courthouse in Truth or Consequences. After a hearing that the two of them needed to attend, Angelica agreed. But on David and Cindy's arrival, Cindy slapped her forehead and said, ah, biscuits. I forgot the cake mix back at the trailer.
Marcus Parks
Yep.
Henry Zebrowski
So Cindy told Angelica that they could all drive back to Elephant Butte to pick up the cake mix. And they then give Angelica a ride back to Truth or Consequences so she could make the cake herself. But that is not how things went down at all.
Jesse Ray
98 box of cakes mix is like a dollar fifty.
Henry Zebrowski
Angelica ain't doing well.
Marcus Parks
No, not doing well. And let me just say, I don't know if. If it's necessarily about the cake mix.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah. No, it's just. Yeah. Angelica is doing very, very poorly. Now. Once they got to the trailer, David grabbed a dagger, held it to Angelica's throat, and told her that she was being abducted. At first, Angelica thought David was just pulling a bad prank, but she soon realized how much trouble she was in after David punched her in the mouth and her supposed friend Cindy held a gun to her head. Before long, Angelica was naked with a padlocked silver collar around her neck, chained to the bars on either side of David and Cindy's bed inside trailer where they both lived. This, strangely enough, would become a pattern for David and Cindy. The abduction would begin in the double wide, where torture and molestation would take place for a day, sometimes two, sometimes three. But the toy box would be saved until the end as a sort of grand finale. So after putting a leather gimp mask on Angelica's head, David played his induction tape in his and Cindy's bedroom. And once it was done, Cindy forced Angelica to swallow a roofie. A gump. Some point, Angelica lost consciousness. But when she woke up, she, in a very unsettling scene, found David and Cindy simply watching tv.
Marcus Parks
Pivot. Pivot. I love this episode of Friends.
Henry Zebrowski
Is.
Marcus Parks
So fun to Ross and Rachel. They're just. I don't know.
Ed Larson
Is that the one where they move the couch?
Marcus Parks
Yeah, yeah, that's the one that gets stuck on the stairwell. I just can't get enough. Channel has got my butt in a sling, you know? He's funny as hell. I get it, man. Snarky as hell. I don't know how they're not all laughing at his jokes.
Jesse Ray
That's a lot of TV to get into for an entire roofie to pass and go by.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Now, Angelica was kept in the main house under Cindy's watch when David went to work the next morning. But Angelica soon discovered that Cindy didn't really do much of anything with her daughter.
Marcus Parks
Day.
Henry Zebrowski
Cindy just sat there watching soap operas and only once offered Angelica food. A shared burrito, which Angelica, of course, didn't want. All she wanted was to be set free. So she sat there all day, chained up, begging Cindy to unlock the chains. Now things like, it's kind of insane how people's behavior is the same. Like no matter what they're into because when David came home from work that night, he said he's just too tired to really do anything.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, I'm just not.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, he's just wore out.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. So David sat naked from the waist down in a T shirt, what we call the Bad Daddy Special, while he and Cindy watched part one of Stephen King's Storm of the Century three part miniseries on TV while Angelica was still chained to the wall.
Marcus Parks
Well, I was. I guess me and them are alike in that way because my family also sat and watched the Stephen King Storm of the Century when it first came out that night as well.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
I'm sure your father had no pants on.
Marcus Parks
Oh, no, he definitely didn't. He wore bikini briefs, though, because honestly, he might want to lay a couple of paper towels down.
Henry Zebrowski
Did he have a. Did your dad do the bikini briefs and the T shirt thing? No shirt.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, bikini briefs. That's what it was. Forever. And then he only had to put clothes on if my sister's friends were coming.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marcus Parks
For the dudes, it didn't matter.
Henry Zebrowski
Similar. Y. Yeah, yeah, similar. At my home.
Jesse Ray
Yeah. My dad was all tidy whities and like a. Yeah, like a Homer Simpson T shirt.
Marcus Parks
Y.
Jesse Ray
Which is probably the same exact outfit.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Bad Daddy Special.
Marcus Parks
Bad Daddy Special.
Henry Zebrowski
But technically, though, now the Bad Daddy special is when there's no tidy whitey. Yeah. Just the dicks hanging out and you're just wearing the T shirt.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. Porky picking it. Yeah, we've heard that.
Jesse Ray
Yeah. So it was mine was the regular Daddy special.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. Regular dad.
Marcus Parks
Dad special.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Father dress.
Marcus Parks
Yes.
Jesse Ray
Get out of the house.
Marcus Parks
Father's. I love seeing Father's now.
Henry Zebrowski
At one point, Cindy left to go get groceries, which was the first time since the abduction that Angelica had been alone with David. In another incongruous moment, though, Angelica asked David for a hug. And David surprisingly reciprocated.
Marcus Parks
Oh.
Henry Zebrowski
He held her tenderly and reassured her that nothing bad was going to happen. But once Storm of the Century Part one was finished, David began rambling about the various crimes he committed over the years. Crimes most murderous. David told Angelica that he'd killed an ex girlfriend and he'd killed the ex girlfriend's little son. But this was only after he turned the ex girlfriend's 10 year old daughter into a sex slave. David also said that he'd once killed a man in his trailer. But then David began complaining about how much of a mess the murder had made because he'd shot him in the and head. Head. This murder, we understand, was most likely the killing of David's former boss, Billy Ray Bowers.
Marcus Parks
Now listen to me. Run my mouth. Listen to me. Just run my mouth. I'm sorry. It must be boring the hell out of you.
Jesse Ray
How much do you think of this Is the truth or him just trying to scare her?
Henry Zebrowski
No idea. Yeah, like, I know he. He definitely killed Billy Ray Bowers. And he's. It's most likely that he killed him in his trailer because David said it and then later Cindy, like, said the same thing. We're going to get into that, even though Cindy was there at the time. But it might just. But it did say that David was saying the same thing to multiple people. I have no idea if he killed an ex girlfriend. I do know that there was a woman living already living in David's trailer when Cindy moved in. Like, some woman's just kind of shows up for just a second in the narrative, and then she's just never mentioned again. Yeah. So it.
Marcus Parks
She either disappeared or he disappeared her. And the. The truth too, is, was that once you're in that little world, they're so far away from everything. And every. We. We've discovered, I think in the show that there's two real, two types of killers besides just product and process. It's those that killed way more than you think they did, and those that killed way less than they say they did. You have something like Ted Bundy that was so open to talking about his crimes that eventually, like Henry Lee Lucas, too. Eventually, you're. You're like, you might actually be full of shit, but David Parker Ray, I think, is guilty of way more crimes.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Because of the way he behaved and how kind of like, controlled the environment was.
Henry Zebrowski
And there's also other evidence that we'll get into later that does definitely show that there, at the very least, used to be bodies out there.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, another unnerving aspect of Angelica's abduction was that for two days straight, straight Angelica would watch Cindy send David off to work as if they didn't have one of Cindy's friends chained to their bed against her will. But things got far worse when David came home from work on day two refreshed and ready to take Angelica to the toy box. After giving her a bath, like a dog collar and all, Cindy applied makeup to Angelica's face while telling her that she had to look her best for the video. Angelica was then led to the toy box where she was subjected to all manner of torture, from beatings to electric shocks to repeated assertions of foreign objects, large and small. Sometimes Those items would also be electrified. And it was quite obvious that Cindy Hendy was having the time of her life. Or at least that's how it went for the first hour. Fortunately for Angelica, an hour was all the time Cindy and David had before the Premiere of Part 2 of Stephen King Storm of the Century.
Marcus Parks
And much like them, I also. Me and my family viewing. Yeah, we were glued to the television. God.
Jesse Ray
So you saw. You watch this with your family?
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
So you know now that when you were watching this with Jackie, your mother and your father, that this woman was getting tortured.
Marcus Parks
That is the same thing.
Jesse Ray
Cuz we all watched it at the.
Henry Zebrowski
Same time and we all look at the same moon every night. Well, David and Cindy, they'd been like super into part one of Storm of the Century.
Marcus Parks
That's the thing, man.
Henry Zebrowski
So they stopped everything on night two to continue the series. Later, Angelica would dryly say, quote, thank God for Stephen King, you know, has.
Marcus Parks
He responded yet with all of his.
Jesse Ray
Equipment and stuff like that? He could have taped it.
Marcus Parks
No, I don't want to spoil it.
Jesse Ray
All right.
Marcus Parks
No, this is about. We go. Stephen King and went to hide for a certain period of time because he was hit by the bus, and then he got hit by that van, and then we didn't know if he was ever gonna ride anything again. And he went. He wrote the Storm of the Century. And everybody knew. They didn't know it was super mysterious. We didn't know it was. We know if it was gonna tie back in to the Dark Tower or not. So I had to see that.
Henry Zebrowski
And also, I ain't gonna tape it that night because the next morning, I ain't gonna be left out of conversation at work when all boys gonna be talking about Storm of the Century. I won't be in there. I won't be able to talk about it. I might be. I. Spoilers.
Marcus Parks
No spoilers.
Ed Larson
No, no, no, no.
Marcus Parks
I want to talk.
Jesse Ray
And if I don't get my eight hours, I am a bastard.
Marcus Parks
I'm a bastard. You saw me yesterday. You heard me yesterday.
Jesse Ray
I was a pain in the ass.
Henry Zebrowski
Perhaps because Angelica was a friend of Cindy's, she got far better treatment than some of the other women who were kidnapped and tortured in the toy box. I mean, don't get me wrong, it was still absolutely horrendous. But Angelica had been in dangerous situations like this before, so she actually played it quite smart. Smart. In an incredible show of strength, Angelica managed to keep up the friend facade the whole time she was in David and Cindy's thrall later saying that if she had, quote, played the, they probably would have killed her. As such, David actually softened towards Angelica by the end of the third day. And he even told her that he liked her as a person. And he never would have kidnapped her if he'd known her better beforehand.
Marcus Parks
If I all knew how much we all love Stephen King and the Long Lord and how much we all wish. We can't wait to read Wizards in Glass. Can't wait to all wonder whether or not he gonna do. What's a gunslinger gonna do, you know? Is it gonna all feature in? I just wouldn't.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, David even allowed Angelica to call a friend so she could arrange bus fare to Albuquerque. Once travel arrangements were taken care of, David unlocked Angelica's handcuffs and collars. And after four days of torture, David almost paternally offered Angelica a car coffee, and he returned her clothes. He then asked her to come over, give him a hug. And once she did, David and Cindy drove her to the bus station without incident.
Marcus Parks
Pull it in, girl. Pull it in, girl. I just can't. What we've been through, all right.
Henry Zebrowski
Hell. Hell of a week.
Marcus Parks
Storm of the century. Remember that down there? You remember that?
Jesse Ray
He couldn't even give her money for bus fare.
Henry Zebrowski
No, you did well. Didn't like her that much again. Guess now Angelica was smart enough to keep the game going until the very end. So when she said goodbye, she told Cindy and David that she'd love to do it all again, except next time she wouldn't be playing the victim.
Marcus Parks
You hear me, y'? All? I'll be on the other side.
Ed Larson
They're like, all right hearing you.
Marcus Parks
Damn.
Henry Zebrowski
But as soon as David and Cindy drove away, probably saying, what a nice girl, Angelica sprinted out to Interstate 25 and frantically tried flagging down one of the passing cars. Eventually, she was picked up. Picked up. In a moment that seems serendipitous, an off duty member of the local sheriff's department picked up Angelica from the side of the road. And after agreeing to take her to Albuquerque, he drove away with Angelica. Both of them sat there in silence. But finally Angelica said that she had something to say. But he wouldn't believe her if she told him. Now, Angelica didn't know this guy was a cop. So when the officer pressed, Angelica felt comfortable in describing her 4D days in captivity with David Parker Ray. Now, after hearing all this, the officer owned up to his identity and asked Angelica if she was willing to go back to Truth or Consequences to file a police report. Now, maybe David said something to Angelica. Maybe She. Maybe he didn't. But Angelica said that she would never go back to T or C. Because the police were involved in what David Parker Ray was doing.
Marcus Parks
Absolutely. Yeah, they were definitely. Someone was at least hanging out. There was somebody. Because I do think that that also is a part of the reason why he went under the radar for a while. I think that there was a. You. Obviously they were waiting to whatever pressure point built, but there was just too much cop activity in and out of his area.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, and that's the. And it's also just the thing, you know, you're in these sorts of, like, situations in. In these sorts of towns. Like, you really do end up finding yourselves hanging out with people that you. You should not be around, that you do not want to hang out with, just because there's not that many people. I say this from experience where you're like, you're sitting there and it's like, I just spent three hours with the worst man in the world, and I had no choice in the matter. Like, it just. It just. The only man there, it just happened, you know, Like, I just had to sit here and listen to it and take it for three hours. And I would imagine there were a lot of officers and there were a lot of cops that just happened to be hanging out with David Parker Ray. And they knew, knew, like, oh, people know that I hang out with them.
Jesse Ray
Also, when you're younger and you're up all the time, you don't realize that you could just not hang out with certain people.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
You know, you don't just make a mistake. Even in New York City, I'd find myself deep in the conversations with people that I'm just like, this person's a criminal. And then you see him again the next day because you really, frankly, don't know any better yet.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, you really don't. Now, Angelica kept asking the officer what she should do, and the officer kept telling. Telling her that they couldn't do anything unless she filed a report. But Angelica, unfortunately, would never get around to it. So the officer was, quote, unquote, pressed for time. So when he got to Albuquerque without having successfully convinced Angelica to file a report, he dropped her off at a bus station just outside of town. And instead of going to the police, Angelica went to her father for justice. After telling him everything that happened, Angelica and her father were fully planning to return to Elephant Butte to murder David and Cindy for what they'd done.
Marcus Parks
Now that would have been a very cool ending to this whole fucking story.
Henry Zebrowski
Sadly, would have been an Incredible ending to the story. But in yet another tragedy in a life full of them, Angelica's father was gunned down by a 15 year old boy outside of a Taco Bell in a drug deal gone bad. Just four days after she told him about her ordeal. Completely distraught and still unwilling to trust the police in any capacity, Angelica decided to decided that she would leave David and Cindy's fate to God for the time being while she returned to a life of sex, work and drug addiction.
Jesse Ray
I mean she had to be somewhat right. I mean she told a cop about David Parker Ray and David Parker Ray kept doing what he was doing.
Henry Zebrowski
I mean without someone there to file a report. I mean the cop, and that's the thing, is that the cop, he was a sheriff in Sierra county, which is, that's the, that's the county where truth of consequences is. It's not like it was out of his fucking jurisdiction. No, it was, wasn't.
Marcus Parks
He just didn't want to deal with it because he doesn't believe they didn't believe a woman. He didn't believe a woman that was basically still a sex worker that was a drug addict and he didn't want to deal with her. And she's completely right because it is not her burden to stop it. She just got out.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
And she should just have never go. She should never go back to Truth or Consequences ever again.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Now from what it seems like, Angelica was far from the only woman that Cindy and David victimized in the relatively short period of time they were together. In all David and Cindy, they were actually only together for about six months before it all came crashing down. They had been in each other's social circle for about a year before that. But I mean that it burned bright and burned fast.
Marcus Parks
You know what I view this as? It's like a. You know how we talk about how when serial killers slide into berserker mode? It's like that, but it's with the two of them, David Parker Ray alone, David Parker way alone could handle it. But once he had her in there and threw a bunch of gasoline on it. Oh yeah, they're really getting reckless and they're really getting insane.
Jesse Ray
He may have never got caught.
Henry Zebrowski
He wouldn't have. I don't think he would have ever gotten caught if he hadn't brought Cindy into it. I think he would have died just a few years later.
Jesse Ray
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, probably. I don't think he'd be live that much longer.
Henry Zebrowski
No, just a few.
Marcus Parks
No, he had a massive heart attack.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. He was A. Yeah, he was a chain smoker. Did not. He was not healthy.
Marcus Parks
And that's something you couldn't learn from him. Stop smoking. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But regardless of how long David and Cindy had known each other, David had apparently told Cindy quite a bit about his own illicit activities that had occurred before they met. Met? See, when Cindy got drunk or high, she got chatty. And while this had absolutely nothing to do with their capture, Cindy's big mouth should have gotten them arrested long before they got caught. See, just a few months after the abduction of Angelica Montano, Cindy went over to her friend Jean's house. The one where she'd shown Jean's kids or bruised up tits the previous Christmas.
Marcus Parks
That one. Oh, that Christmas, yeah. Amazing.
Ed Larson
They let her back.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. It's almost like it's the only people that know.
Henry Zebrowski
It's the way it goes, man. It is the way it goes. People do up. You're mad at them for about a month, maybe a couple weeks, and then they come back and they do it again.
Jesse Ray
Remember when Cindy almost ruined Christmas?
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
She's on her way over.
Marcus Parks
Great. Oh, so she can ruin Arbor Day, too?
Henry Zebrowski
Well, once Cindy showed up at Jean's house, she began downing a bottle of white wine with Jean and Jean's husband. Before long, Cindy was telling her host that her boyfriend, David Parker, was Ray. He was a serial killer who'd killed hundreds of women over a period of 20 years, and that Cindy personally knew of six or seven women whose bodies had ended up in the bottom of the lake. Now, he. She wasn't tearfully confessing this. She was saying this with a smile. She was bragging. She loved it. And Cindy didn't stop at telling her friends that her boyfriend was a serial killer. Far from it. Cindy talked about how much she actually loved that he was a serial killer. She proudly stated that she'd always been intrigued by serial killers. Cindy then talked about the toy box, spilled everything about the toy box. Said that there was a blood stain the size of a quarter that wouldn't come out. It was from the time she said that David shot a man in the head inside the toy box. But David, he learned from the messiness of that murder. He didn't shoot anybody in the head anymore. Now he strangles people to death because it's cleaner, you know? And Cindy said that she couldn't wait to experience the rush of strangling someone to death with her own two hands. And she was going to do it soon.
Marcus Parks
Do you want some stuffing? We actually have. I don't know. What else we got out for, you know, for sides. I don't know if you got any kind of dietary restrictions or anything. We got some cranberries.
Henry Zebrowski
That's great. But the thing is about that you don't understand, like, when you actually, like, kill a human being. When you put their hands around their throat and their eyes start, like, bugging out, they start bugging out so bad.
Marcus Parks
Why don't. Yeah, that sounds great. Why don't we put little Marie to sleep? You know, just sort of remind me of Christmas, you know?
Jesse Ray
Shows how much people probably don't pay attention to each other.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Crazy.
Marcus Parks
No way.
Henry Zebrowski
And Cindy then described David's method of slitting open corpses to fill their innards with rocks so they'd sink to the bottom of the lake. And, you know, and really, as I'm reading all this, I realized that Cindy probably took a big hit of meth right before going inside. Oh, there's no way.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, because especially they're like. Yeah. Much like how we did with. As you notice how Deborah here put a lovely lemon and a onion inside of the chicken in order to add an aromatic part of it. Yes, I can. I can't agree. Can you please, please leave? Can you get the fuck out of here? Get the fuck out of my house.
Henry Zebrowski
And finally, just as she was leaving, Cindy told Gene and her husband that she and David were planning to take another victim soon. To keep David busy while Cindy visited friends in Seattle.
Marcus Parks
All right, great, Cindy. See you soon. All right, bye now.
Ed Larson
Bye, Cindy.
Marcus Parks
Bye, Cindy.
Henry Zebrowski
No, no, but that's the thing that he's gonna be gone, so he's gonna need something to do. So I'm definitely gonna get a woman. Then I'm gonna go to Seattle, and he's gonna have a big good time over there.
Marcus Parks
Love it, Cindy.
Ed Larson
See you soon. Bye. Bye.
Marcus Parks
Very tired. Time for work.
Jesse Ray
Let's get your bruised up.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, whether all the rest of it was bullshit or not, that's up for debate. But we do know that the last statement Cindy made was true, because she did indeed have a visit to Seattle coming up, and a kidnapping did occur. But regardless of the veracity of Sidney's statements, what, you may ask, was Jean and her husband's reaction to her confessions? Well, put simply, just as soon as Cindy left, they turned to each other and said, aw, bull honky. She ain't killed no buddy.
Marcus Parks
All you got to be is super not reliable. Yeah, no one believes anything.
Henry Zebrowski
They didn't believe a word she said, and instead they just considered the encounter as another wacky knot with sixpack Cindy.
Jesse Ray
Honestly, I probably would have done the same thing.
Marcus Parks
Oh yeah. You know how many things? Cuz I also feel as a comedian too, I sometimes don't have like a proper register when someone says something that's either extremely offensive or over the top or something like that. Because sometimes I'll just call like, haha. Yeah. And not even kind of like really put it all together until later on and you realize like they've sort of maybe confessed a crime to me or something. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
As horrible as the consequences were, Cindy and David's relationship, it was obviously special.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So two days after Cindy fully outlined not only David's entire serial killing career, but also her plans to join him in the future to her future friends, David proposed. And the two planned to marry in June at a ceremony by the lake.
Marcus Parks
Oh wow. That's just how beautiful that would have been over by the lake with all the bodies in it.
Henry Zebrowski
You remember that night when we was out there on the lake? We dumped that body right out there.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, I do. You know, I was thinking is that you could stab my.
Henry Zebrowski
I could and I will.
Jesse Ray
Now I have all these rings called covered in blood.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, good.
Jesse Ray
Would you like any one of them?
Marcus Parks
Do not clean them, but you get one.
Ed Larson
You just get one.
Henry Zebrowski
That wedding, however, would never come to pass because David and Cindy would only have a short time together as a serial killing, or at least serial abducting couple, because soon a woman would escape from their clutches alive and running. The plan for that march, as Cindy had told me, Jean, was to kidnap a woman so David would have something to do while Cindy was out of town. David, however, had convinced Cindy to postpone her trip to Seattle because he didn't want her to miss out on the excitement of kidnapping a new sex slave. So the two of them set off for Albuquerque on March 20th in their white Toyota truck with the camper attached to the back. This was with the express purpose of meeting a pimp named Terry who could unwittingly provide them with their next victim.
Marcus Parks
Yes, it is me, Terry the pimp. Everybody. All you hoes, line up. Okay, let's see. See your faces. Hand the money over to me. Thank you. All right. Yes. Say. Say you're welcome. Okay, thank you. All right, let me see your re. Yelp reviews.
Henry Zebrowski
Terry the pimp introduced David and cindy to a 22 year old woman named Cynthia Vigil, who agreed to give David oral sex, in his case, camper, for $30. Coincidentally, Cindy's birth name was also Cynthia.
Jesse Ray
How amazing.
Henry Zebrowski
It's A coincidence that Cindy's last. That their last victim has the same birth name.
Marcus Parks
You say coincidence, I say happy accident.
Henry Zebrowski
Just a lot of names, you know, there's two Davids. There's Cynthia.
Marcus Parks
Oh, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Kismet limited. But once Cynthia, the active sex worker, was inside the camp camper, David pulled out a fake badge and a pair of handcuffs, said, this is a bust. And Cindy busted out of the camper's bathroom with a stun gun. Now, Cynthia Vigil was as tough as her name suggests, so taking her down wasn't easy. But finally, David and Cindy managed to handcuff shackle and duct tape Cynthia before driving her back to Elephant Butte. That's what it took to take Cynthia down. It took handcuffs, shackles, and a shitload of duct tape.
Jesse Ray
I mean, you know, she's a lady of the streets of Albuquerque. Yeah, you know, it's a tough situation.
Marcus Parks
Unfortunately, yes, Cynthia is. Was definitely a bit of an escape artist. Yeah. So good luck with her.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, after they brought Cynthia inside their double wide and played her the tape, David and Cindy took to the torture routine that was, by this point, customary. Electrodes and spiky dildos, metal bars and chains. But this time, David added something new, something that he had threatened in his tape, but as far as we know, only did one once. After fetching a can of gravy from the kitchen, David dipped his fingers inside and pushed the gravy into Cindy's vagina. Then David brought in his dog from outside and let the animal lick it all away. You satisfied now?
Marcus Parks
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Are we all. Are all you sick out there satisfied that we talked about the dog?
Marcus Parks
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Jesse Ray
Dogs will love anybody.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, dogs will love you in any situation.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, Cynthia was put through a lot over the next couple of days. Ordeals involving suspensions, hog ties, whips, clamps, and an elaborate system of extremely painful pulleys and weights. They were all made from Elephant Butte State park equipment. And incredibly, all this happened before Cynthia was even taken into the toy box. This all happened in the double wide. But on the morning of March 22, Cynthia awoke to find herself handcuffed and shackled to the wall. While David was getting ready for work, David unlocked the handcuffs, but left Cynthia chained up. But just before he left, he promised her that when he returned, he was going to introduce her to the place where they were all going to have some real fun. David was going to take. Take her to the toy box. Upon that threat, Cynthia became extraordinarily determined to never find out what the happened inside the toy box. But luckily for her, Cindy was still spending pretty much the entirety of her days obliviously watching soaps. And on that day, Cindy had also quite stupidly, left the keys to the padlock that was holding Cynthia captive. She left the keys on a coffee table just a few feet from where Cynthia was being held. Now, Cindy was fully entranced in her daytime TV by 3pm, which, if I remember correctly, 3pm's Judge Judy time.
Marcus Parks
I mean, I don't know. It could be the Cosby show time.
Henry Zebrowski
It is 19. It's 1999. So. Yeah. Oh, 3pm is also bewitched time.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Could have been a whole myriad of horrible television shows.
Marcus Parks
When was Wapner.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, Wapner was also three was.
Marcus Parks
Wapner was People's Court.
Henry Zebrowski
Dur.
Marcus Parks
Over this point.
Jesse Ray
Mills Lane could have been Mills Lane. It's definitely a. Definitely a court show.
Marcus Parks
Judge Joe Brown.
Henry Zebrowski
No, Judge Joe Brown wasn't around yet. There wasn't. There was an overlap between Wapner and Judge Judy, but, you know, Judge Judy eventually took over.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, she. She actually hired an assassin to kill Wapner. Sleep.
Jesse Ray
I know. At 5:00pm Supermarket Sweep was on USA. And I love that show.
Marcus Parks
Night Court used to come on at.
Henry Zebrowski
Six because people frantically running around food and shoving it in the Quick, get the ham. Well, while Cindy was duly distracted in the living room watching whatever was on 3pm at 3pm coming out of Albuquerque, Cynthia made her move in the bedroom. After stretching herself across the table as far as the chain would allow, Cynthia wrapped her feet around the base of the coffee table and slowly pulled it towards. Towards her. Finally, after a lot of scooting, Cynthia grabbed the keys and opened the padlock. Actually tiptoeing, Cynthia made her way across the den and picked up the phone to dial 91 1. But just as the operator answered, Cindy walked in and caught Cynthia in the act. Thinking fast, Cindy grabbed a glass lamp and smashed it over Cynthia's head. But Cynthia, as I said earlier, was among the toughest ladies in New Mexico. While blood gushed from multiple wound wounds, Cynthia managed to grab a blunt instrument from the table, which she used to smash Cindy's head in over and over until Cindy was knocked unconscious. Covered in blood, and totally naked, Cynthia burst out of David's trailer and ran barefoot down a dirt road as fast as she could, trying to get anyone to stop and help her. The first person she ran into was an old lady who locked her doors and sped away while the second just swerved around her. But finally, after running for three blocks. Blocks. Cynthia spotted an unusually nice double wide with manicured grass and a covered porch. This person, Cynthia figured, just might give a. And sure enough, after knocking on the door, Cynthia was relieved to find that the owner was all too willing to help. Cindy, meanwhile, had regained consciousness. Soon after Cynthia escaped and immediately called David at work to tell him what happened. For his part, David just told her to stay calm. He said, I'm on my way together. We're going to get in the rv. We're going to find her. But by the time David Parker had picked up cindy in his RV at the trailer, Cynthia had already called 911 and police had already set up roadblocks. And since an RV is no sort of a chase vehicle, David and Cindy surrendered when they hit the block, and they were finally arrested for their many crimes.
Marcus Parks
I do believe he might have known at that point that it was over.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, as soon as she called and said that she escaped, he knew it was over.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. And that he. Because that was like, he knew. He knew. And I think that it was just. It's just that thing, like, God damn it, Cindy. You know, like, I knew you. Yeah. This muppet ass.
Jesse Ray
And he still went back for.
Marcus Parks
Of course, he loved her. He was using something.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, I think at this point, they. I think they always had a plan. Plan for, well, they might escape. What are we gonna say if they escape? I know they had some sort of plan because when they were arrested and interrogated, they had the same story.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
They both said that everything that had occurred between them and Cynthia vigil was totally consensual and had, in fact, been a part of a transaction. Cynthia, they said, was trying to kick heroin. And David and Cindy had agreed to help her in exchange for some bondage sessions. The whole thing was simple. Barter had gone wrong.
Marcus Parks
You always spank the heroin out of people. Yeah.
Jesse Ray
You don't kick heroin.
Marcus Parks
You shoot it. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
David, however, couldn't help but get carried away during his interrogation. While talking to the police, David took a pen and paper and made a detailed drawing of a butt plug, then fully described how he'd inserted it and.
Marcus Parks
Why and what's important here. Honestly, the most important part of the butt plug is the end bit here that sticks out of the butt because that's what keeps it from sliding all the way into the intestines. Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Without this, you ain't getting it back.
Marcus Parks
Without that. That is Just a missile. And you. Your colon. Yeah, the. The end part actually is what makes it the plug.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Well, you know that ain't yours no.
Marcus Parks
More once you put it in the gold in the butt.
Henry Zebrowski
But at that point, it seems like David realized what was happening. He realized that the cops were pumping him for information. He realized that the cops were getting him excited. So he told them that he better get a lawyer because, quote, I think.
Marcus Parks
I'm in a lot of trouble.
Henry Zebrowski
A lot of trouble. As far as being in trouble went, David was indeed correct. When the Truth or Consequences Police Department opened just David's trailer, never mind his toy box, they knew they were fully out of their league. So they immediately turned the case over to the New Mexico State Police.
Marcus Parks
Now, is that a mixture of just. Is that an. Is that actual understanding or is that pure laziness? Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Is that just like. Well, this lot of paperwork. Don't want to do that. Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Hold on a second. We're all stupid.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. I don't know if you know. I don't know if you guys know, but between us, we have. And there's 10 member over here of the. Of. Of the Truth of Consequences Police Department. We together have an IQ of 150.
Henry Zebrowski
And did not Socrates say, I only know that which I do not know? And so there is for wisdom in us being lazy.
Marcus Parks
Quit talking.
Ed Larson
That says they're going to give us a case.
Henry Zebrowski
Within days, David and Cindy were facing 90 years in prison. But predictably, when a judge set their bail at a million dollars each, Cindy rolled over on the supposed love of her life as fast as humanly possible. She called the agent in charge and told him that David Parker Ray. Oh, you know, just a. He'd murdered at least 14 people. He'd used makeup to make his victims more photogenic for the videos he made and sold before killing them. He buried and dumped bodies all over the Southwest. And after hearing all that, the agent at the New Mexico State Police also figured, like, I ain't good enough to deal with this one. So he kicked it to the FBI.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. Somebody's gonna come and he's gonna write all what you just said. Okay.
Jesse Ray
So he's selling these tapes all over the country, maybe the world.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Did anyone ever find any of these tapes when raiding somewhere else?
Henry Zebrowski
I don't know what I have. I have no. Have no idea.
Marcus Parks
The information I have is. I actually got a really interesting. In Atlanta. I'm going to. Before I even really talk about it, I'm going to flesh it out more but there is a central figure that is attached to a lot of this and I do think that you'd be surprised. I don't think that. I think when he put out those videos was out the death part. So it was just the S M stuff.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. So it was going there's no murder, there's not snuff films.
Marcus Parks
Yes. So that is just. I mean it's definitely out there. It is for certain out there.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh yeah, no, I'm sure. I actually I. I would not be surprised if somewhere on the Internet on some tube site that there is a David Parker Ray video that we just don't know what the it is.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not there yet.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. I'm not super looking for that.
Marcus Parks
Well, cuz the guy wasn't talking to Atlanta. Guy was just like, you mean tell me you don't use Tor, like you don't use the Dark Web? And I was just like no.
Jesse Ray
Why there isn't well written there.
Marcus Parks
Just like. Yeah. I went to go found old David Parker Ray's tape and my wife is ecstatic. Can't wait for me to show her all the David Parker Ray original tapes I found.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, I gained nothing from it and yet I watched them anyway and it's a crime.
Marcus Parks
Everyone's angry at me.
Jesse Ray
Our Google search histories are awful enough.
Henry Zebrowski
Now. After throwing David under the bus, it seems like Cindy figured that she might as well get as much mild as mileage out of snitching as she possibly can. So she also brought up Roy Yancey and told investigators that Roy had killed a woman named Marie Parker years before.
Marcus Parks
And I'll do it again.
Henry Zebrowski
And as it was at the time, investigators did think that this case was about to blow wide open. Because just after Cindy rolled over on Roy, investigators found bones in David's backyard. And those bones did indeed appear human. Going off that, investigators began to believe that cold cases were about to be solved by the the dozens. That countless families would finally discover what had happened to their missing loved ones. But tragically, no bodies were turning up. Police dug through every inch of David's property and found nothing else. Likewise, the divers scouring Elephant Butte Lake found nothing either. And this was despite the fact that they were in possession of a map found inside the toy box that had about a dozen X's marking locations, exact locations all around the lake.
Marcus Parks
It sounds like that also might have been a plant.
Henry Zebrowski
It might have been. But the lake water, was that the lake water in man made lakes?
Marcus Parks
Oh no, it's the sky you can't even.
Henry Zebrowski
It's. It's just algae. It's all algae blooms. You can't see sh. You cannot see anything. What you get, it's not just mud. You don't just have like the muddy water of the Rio Grande. Like yeah, that's definitely a factor, but it's also the algae.
Jesse Ray
Now is this the lake in the state park or is this a separate lake? Lake.
Henry Zebrowski
Guess it's a lake in the state park. The only one.
Jesse Ray
Yeah. Yeah.
Marcus Parks
Cuz then how many lakes are there?
Jesse Ray
Yeah, not that many in New Mexico. I know that much. So people are just kayaking over all these bodies all the time?
Marcus Parks
Very much so.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, Elephant bu. Lake is very much a recreational facility.
Jesse Ray
Yeah, no, I'm just looking at these guys having a great time.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, you're looking at the. Oh, you're at the website. Well, speaking of which, even when human material did show up on the. The lake, it proved to be useless. Just a few months after David's arrest, a fisherman, a guy out there on the lake just trying to have a good time, he spotted a burlap bag floating on the water. The bag had split open to reveal its contents. And those contents were described as quote, pinkish clumps of cheese like material. The material was determined to be human flesh and bone, but it had been in the water far too long to be of any use use. And that was just what happened when one guy actually reported something. Who knows how many people saw awful floating in Elephant Butte and just left it because they didn't want to get involved.
Jesse Ray
I would start screaming and then run away and then not think about it for years.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, it does happen. But also I do think it's an essential nature of this place.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, I think like we said last week, it's a place where people go to be left alone.
Marcus Parks
Yes. So they want. So they got. Want to be left alone so they leave others alone. So everybody is. Everybody's minding their quote unquote, minding their own business, even though everybody knows everything about everybody.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, of course you want to know about everything about everybody. But yeah, I mean, and that's the things you look over in the side of, you know, you. There's also all sorts of floating in these lakes. Like it's not like these are a bunch of conservationists and environmentalists. They're just throwing in these. In these waters. But when it came to the investigation, the worst horror, of course, course, was the toy box itself. See, every item inside had to be cataloged. And a young special agent Named Patty Rust was tasked with making detailed drawings and diagrams of every single thing contained therein. But the futility of it all, the sadness and the pain, it was all far too much for Agent Rust. A week after completing her task, she walked out of the toy box. Box, pulled her service weapon, and shot herself in the head.
Marcus Parks
Jesus Christ.
Jesse Ray
So she did it at the toy box or at home?
Henry Zebrowski
It was the. She did it at the toy box they had taken. The FBI had taken the toy box and moved it to their offices in Santa Fe, where everything could be cataloged and where the. The whole thing. And it was in Santa Fe. Yeah. She just walked on.
Marcus Parks
Just.
Henry Zebrowski
It was just. It broke her completely. Oh, God.
Jesse Ray
I could see it.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
It's up. Because also, I think that once you see how much evidence was in there.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Marcus Parks
How much stuff. And there's no. And there's nothing to stick him with.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. I mean, there are. There the only.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. They're going to get him.
Henry Zebrowski
They're going to get him, but not in the way that you want to.
Marcus Parks
No.
Henry Zebrowski
Now, Roy Yansy was picked up from his job as a short order cook after Cindy told on him.
Ed Larson
You want him smothered and covered? Hello. Pick it up. Who likes marshmallows on the sandwiches? I do. I do. I love it.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, after Roy was picked up, he spilled just as much as Cindy. And eventually, victims like Kelly Garrett were identified and questioned as well. And Kelly Garrett gave investigators enough information to also arrest David Parker Ray's daughter, Jessie. But in the end, the sentences handed out were either paltry or ultimately unsatisfied. Roy Yancy was sentenced to 20 years in prison for the murder of Marie Parker. But even though the death of Kenneth Lee Lane was investigated, Yancey never got the charge. David Parker Ray, meanwhile, had three trials that collectively came to be known as the David Parker Ray Tour. These concerned the kidnappings of Cynthia Vigil, Kelly Garrett, and Angelica Montano. All stories that we talked about on this show. But the reason why we talked about these stories is because these women were the only three out of the possible hundreds that David brutalized who could be identified and. Or found. They only found Kelly Garrett because of a tattoo. A photo of a tattoo. They found a photo of a tattoo. They've tracked her down. And then when they told her, hey, this happened to you, all of the memories came flooding back. She didn't remember any of it entirely. Hell, after David Parker Ray was caught and the FBI had to come and show her pictures of what happened to her.
Jesse Ray
So brutal.
Henry Zebrowski
Incredibly brutal. As Such David Parker Ray was ultimately sentenced to 223 years in prison after he tried to get a dominatrix to testify on his behalf about what everyone in the court just didn't understand about rough sex.
Marcus Parks
That's how like think about that. Think about that. He was setting that up.
Jesse Ray
You try and throw in anything he could to not get in prison.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. But infamously David Parker Ray served less than one of those 223 years as he died from a heart attack on May 28, 2002. As far as Cindy and Jesse went, they both got off incredibly light. Jesse Ray ended up serving just two years in prison, got five years probation. She's just out there. Like I said last episode there was a Reddit comment that said someone took a trucking course with her and she is moon.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, I bet.
Henry Zebrowski
Cindy Hindy. Meanwhile she was released in 2019. As of 2024, Cindy lives in a community in Washington state that is in no way happy to have her there, man.
Jesse Ray
I bet when Jesse's a trucker that she doesn't even honk when people do the.
Ed Larson
That's the most.
Marcus Parks
Yeah. Cuz I still do it and I don't care if you think I'm mentally handicapped. I like it fun for me.
Henry Zebrowski
I hope that you think I'm mentally handicapped because you think you're making my day. Which you are.
Marcus Parks
Yes. And you are still making a fully capable person. Yeah. Happy. Unbelievable.
Henry Zebrowski
But then there's the question of truth or consequences. Four days after Jesse Ray was arrested, the city nevertheless decided to go ahead with an anniversary marking. 50 years since the incredibly stupid renaming of their town.
Marcus Parks
I know it's really bad timing but honestly it comes down. We already ordered all the banners and the guys here. That fucking guy is already flown into town. The guy from the old TV show. He's gonna die anytime soon. And we just got. We ordered all these pizzas. We can't stop.
Henry Zebrowski
While divers were down in the lake looking for human remains, the city was hosting a parade led by the almost 90 year old living corpse of the original host of the game show.
Marcus Parks
He's doing that Jimmy Carter got frozen in fear.
Henry Zebrowski
That was Ralph Edwards. But there's no word on if Ralph was told about what was going on out at Elephant Butte at the time.
Marcus Parks
I'd like to go see a toy box.
Ed Larson
I like toys.
Marcus Parks
I like. We used to have a jack in the pots. That used to surprise everyone.
Henry Zebrowski
Incredibly. Truth or Consequences has in the years since putting become a sort of billionaires playground.
Jesse Ray
Great.
Henry Zebrowski
Currently it's the base for Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic space tourism company.
Marcus Parks
You got to change the virgin name.
Henry Zebrowski
Branson. Branson began commercial space flights out of TRC just a few years ago. Those flights go for about $600,000 a seat, which I would imagine is more than enough to buy a hell of a lot of double wides out at Elephant Butte where so many of David Parker Ray's victim. Victims remain undiscovered.
Marcus Parks
Jesus Christ. What a great show then.
Henry Zebrowski
That's it.
Marcus Parks
Wow.
Henry Zebrowski
That's David Parker Ray redux.
Jesse Ray
Just drudge the lake.
Henry Zebrowski
It's too big. And they also don't have the money. Dredging lake's really expensive.
Marcus Parks
They don't want to.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah.
Marcus Parks
Yep.
Henry Zebrowski
They don't want to. And it's too. And. And also the, you know the burlap sack, like that cheese. The. The cheesy substance. That for me really says a lot about what happened to those bodies. They just disintegrated.
Jesse Ray
There's just no more DNA in that.
Henry Zebrowski
Not at the time.
Marcus Parks
Unless those people were in a DNA registry in the first place. To be found.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, not at the time. And not sent like. And not sense. Yeah, yeah. They have to already be. Yeah. Because that's the thing is that they're not like they're the people that are being found. It's not like they're criminals. You know, so there's. The DNA is not going to be on the database in that way. And also a lot of these people aren't. Weren't reported like they weren't reported missing. So they don't have anything to match it against.
Jesse Ray
What about the bones found on his property?
Henry Zebrowski
Turned out to be nothing.
Jesse Ray
Oh, they weren't human.
Marcus Parks
No.
Jesse Ray
They just. Human esque.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Monkey bones.
Marcus Parks
At that time I killed those three chimps.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Yeah. Now that's what I was going to.
Ed Larson
Bring up is that.
Henry Zebrowski
Is that fourth of July when we got them three? Yeah. And that one chimp got a hold of that artillery shell and he lit it and he put it down the throat of that other chimp. But it was big enough to blow up all the. All the champs.
Marcus Parks
It was amazing. It was amazing. Also I did find Roy Yansy. I thought it was him, but it's. I don't think it is. He was in Iowa. This is another guy in an Iowa's sex offender list. I mean Roy has his address.
Henry Zebrowski
Roy Yans. He's about this. That is a sex offender name.
Marcus Parks
That is. Look at this sex offender. He's. He's not smiling.
Jesse Ray
I mean he is a sex offender.
Henry Zebrowski
Actually, that. That sex offender is smiling. There's a. I would say a flirty curl to that lip.
Marcus Parks
This one's here. This one's a weird, but it looks like Spicoli from Fast Times. Yeah, I don't know who these. This. I don't know if that is. He's in Des Moines, huh? Yeah. Well, I'll tell you. I'll put the address up on the socials. We all go to his house, bring him the show.
Jesse Ray
Well, thank you, Marcus, for finally breaking me.
Marcus Parks
Really. I'm glad you needed it. Yeah, we needed it.
Henry Zebrowski
It. About time.
Marcus Parks
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Jesse Ray
Ray, I can't wait to take my wife on a nice romantic dinner tonight.
Marcus Parks
Yeah, you go and you be nice to her.
Henry Zebrowski
Just flush it all out. Just on the drive home, put on the soundtrack to the Little Mermaid and just no under the seas. That's gonna remind you. You stuff don't do under the sea. You can do. What are some of the other.
Marcus Parks
I don't know. Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Look at this stuff. Isn't it neat? I feel like that's.
Henry Zebrowski
That's like the toy box.
Marcus Parks
Hey, wouldn't you think my collection's complete when you think that I'm the dude. The dude that had everything.
Henry Zebrowski
Hakuna matata. How's that?
Marcus Parks
Yeah, no worries.
Henry Zebrowski
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Marcus Parks
You know, it's a bad song for him. Be our guest.
Henry Zebrowski
Be our guest.
Marcus Parks
Put our service to the test.
Jesse Ray
Also a terrible song, I'll tell you that. Lumiere. Someone needs to keep an eye on him.
Marcus Parks
There's who's a part of the toolbox.
Henry Zebrowski
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Jesse Ray
My wife.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yay.
Jesse Ray
She ain't never going to hear this.
Henry Zebrowski
You can say Janice. How about Janice?
Marcus Parks
Yeah.
Jesse Ray
Hail Janice.
Henry Zebrowski
Who looks. Who looks exactly like Cindy H. She.
Marcus Parks
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Hosts: The Last Podcast Network
Release Date: July 11, 2025
Description: This episode delves deeper into the harrowing crimes of David Parker Ray, known as the "Toy Box Killer," exploring his methods, accomplices, and the chilling aftermath of his actions.
The episode begins with the hosts, Marcus Parks, Henry Zebrowski, and Jesse Ray, reminiscing humorously about introducing dark and disturbing content to the audience. This sets the stage for a detailed exploration of one of America's most notorious serial killers, David Parker Ray.
[05:25] Henry Zebrowski: The narrative introduces Roy Yancy, a local from Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, born in 1971. Roy's troubled upbringing led him to join a satanic cult-like group in high school, engaging in graveyard desecrations and black magic rituals.
[08:51] Marcus Parks: Roy's descent into drug abuse and violent behavior eventually connected him to David Parker Ray through David's daughter, Jessie Ray. Roy's integration into Ray's sadistic circle marked the beginning of a more sinister chapter in Ray's criminal activities.
Quote:
Marcus Parks [05:25]: "I own land inside your crack yeah, you come on, slip down find me."
[14:40] Henry Zebrowski: Roy Yancy and his crew escalated their criminal activities by poisoning dogs owned by people with surnames starting with 'R', leaving them as 'satanic sacrifices.' These acts of cruelty were designed to instill fear and establish their cult's presence.
[16:07] Henry Zebrowski: The local DA's task force, fearing a potential satanic plot, failed to find concrete evidence linking Roy's group to actual weapon stockpiling, illustrating the challenges in investigating such elusive crimes.
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Henry Zebrowski [14:40]: "So, but no matter how they were introduced, Roy Yancy had by late 1995, become a regular fixture on the local saddle masochistic party scene that centered around David Parker Ray."
[29:00] Marcus Parks: Marie Parker, a 21-year-old mother of two, became entangled with Ray's group, leading to her abduction and brutal torture in the infamous "toy box." This device, a homemade torture chamber, became the central tool in Ray's spree of violence.
[37:12] Henry Zebrowski: Ray and his accomplices subjected Marie to days of torture, leaving her with no recollection of the events due to heavy psychotropic drugs. Despite her harrowing experience, Marie's attempts to seek justice were thwarted by disbelief and personal tragedy.
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Marcus Parks [29:00]: "She's physically traumatized and psychologically shattered, yet her husband annuls their marriage, leaving her isolated and with no support."
[42:25] Henry Zebrowski: Cindy Hendy, a 37-year-old woman with a volatile background, becomes the pivotal figure who fully integrates into Ray's murderous endeavors. Her arrival in Truth or Consequences marks a significant escalation in the group's activities.
[51:27] Henry Zebrowski: Cindy's relationship with both Roy Yancy and Jessie Ray introduces a new dynamic, leading to the abduction and torture of Angelica Montano. Cindy's lack of remorse and fascination with violence amplifies the group's brutality.
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Henry Zebrowski [42:25]: "Cindy was already a permanent out-of-pocket individual, making her the perfect accomplice for Ray's dark ambitions."
[71:33] Jesse Ray: After Angelica Montano manages a daring escape, Cindy's recklessness leads to her capture. Angelica's encounter with an off-duty sheriff's officer becomes the turning point that eventually leads to the downfall of Ray and his accomplices.
[87:15] Jesse Ray: "He may have never got caught."
Henry Zebrowski [87:15]: "No, he had a massive heart attack."
David Parker Ray's reign ends not through direct confrontation but via his own demise from a heart attack, shortly after his capture. Cindy Hendy and Jesse Ray receive surprisingly lenient sentences, highlighting a disturbing failure in the justice system to fully prosecute such heinous crimes.
Quote:
Jesse Ray [87:15]: "He may have never got caught."
Despite capturing Ray and his immediate circle, the podcast discusses the vast number of potential victims whose bodies were never found. Evidence such as the "toy box" and various testimonies paint a picture of a much larger scale of violence that remains unaccounted for.
[109:20] Henry Zebrowski: The tragic suicide of Agent Patty Rust, overwhelmed by the horrors cataloged in Ray's toy box, underscores the emotional toll on those investigating these crimes.
Quote:
Henry Zebrowski [109:20]: "It was just, it broke her completely."
The episode wraps up by reflecting on the enduring impact of David Parker Ray's crimes on the community of Truth or Consequences and the broader implications for understanding serial killers who operate under the radar for extended periods. The hosts lament the unresolved cases and the potential for numerous other victims who remain unidentified.
[115:58] Henry Zebrowski: "They don't want to. And it's too... It's just algae blooms. You can't see."
Final Quote:
Jesse Ray [115:53]: "Our Google search histories are awful enough."
Episode 626 of Last Podcast on the Left offers a chilling examination of David Parker Ray's atrocities, highlighting the complexities of his criminal network and the systemic failures that allowed him to evade justice for so long. Through detailed storytelling and candid discussions, the hosts shed light on the dark corridors of human depravity, leaving listeners both informed and unsettled.
Disclaimer: This podcast discusses real-life violent crimes and may contain unsettling content. Listener discretion is advised.