Episode 653: The Du Pont Foxcatcher Murder Part II - The House of the Butterflies

Summary

Last Podcast On The Left

Episode 653: The Du Pont Foxcatcher Murder Part II - The House of the Butterflies

Release Date: February 20, 2026
Hosts: Marcus Parks, Henry Zebrowski, Ed Larson

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Overview

This episode continues LPOTL’s deep dive into the history, influence, and horrors wrought by the Du Pont family—a dynasty described by Marcus as “quite possibly the most evil family in American history” (07:00). Picking up in the post-WWI era, the hosts dissect how Du Pont shifted from “merchants of death” to architects of American consumer society, all while fueling war machines, polluting the planet, and knowingly poisoning generations. The tone vacillates between acerbic comedy and outrage as the hosts unpack the family’s direct role in war crimes, creation of “forever chemicals,” and their political manipulations at home and abroad.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: The Post-WWI Du Ponts

[07:00] Marcus Parks:

• After WWI, the Du Ponts earned the "merchants of death" title for war profiteering.
• Expanded influence into cultural manipulation (Boy Scouts), governmental meddling, and responding to Bolshevik Russia by defending their business interests.

Quote:
"There's going to be a lot of death in this episode, and the DuPonts are at the center of it all." – Marcus (08:13)

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2. 1920s Expansion: Building Consumer America

[09:43] Marcus Parks:

• The Du Ponts steered the rise of mass consumerism by creating products first, then manufacturing a demand for them: cellophane, rayon, shatterproof glass.
• "Cellophane had no practical use...They created a use for it." – Marcus (13:08)
• Their chemicals and synthetic materials fundamentally changed modern life (and waste).

Comedy Breaks:

• Conversation about pantyhose, consumer fetishism, and various ways the Du Ponts’ products integrate into daily (and absurd) life ([16:00]–[18:00]).

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3. Leaded Gasoline: “The House of the Butterflies”

[23:06] Marcus Parks:

• The horrifying origin of tetraethyl lead in gasoline, created by Du Pont-controlled General Motors.
• Workers at the Deepwater, NJ plant became deranged and died from lead exposure, the factory earning the nickname “House of the Butterflies” because of toxic hallucinations ([25:13]).

Quote:
"Workers affected by the tetraethyl fumes would try to snatch invisible butterflies out of the air and many drew butterflies on the brick walls of the factory. The fumes...It's fucking insane." – Marcus (26:10)

• Leaded gasoline’s ubiquity (1923–1986) is strongly linked to violent crime waves, widespread developmental issues, and brain damage. The Du Ponts covered up the dangers from day one.

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4. Reinventing Greed: Economic Power & Manipulation

[36:41] Marcus Parks:

• Du Ponts, through financial exec John Raskob, maximized profit by slashing labor costs and manipulating the stock market, contributing directly to the 1929 crash and ensuing Great Depression.
• Discussion on whether the Du Ponts “caused the Holocaust” by laying groundwork for unstable Germany.

Quote:
"Did the duponts cause the Holocaust? I'd say kinda." – Marcus (36:55)

• The hosts note the perverse trickle-down of trauma, greed, and political upheavals (with comedic asides on cousin-marrying politicians FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt).

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5. Political Meddling and the “Business Plot”

[44:46] Marcus Parks:

• In response to FDR’s New Deal and higher taxes for the rich, the Du Ponts and allies plotted an outright coup (the “Business Plot”) to overthrow him—foiled only by General Smedley Butler’s integrity.

Quote:
"The plan was to overthrow FDR and install a military dictatorship...All the plotters had to say was, 'Nah, I didn’t do that.' And not a single one...faced consequences." – Marcus (47:15)

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6. War Profiteering: WWII and Beyond

[52:40] Marcus Parks:

• Du Ponts produced 70% of US explosives in WWII, and their innovations (cellophane, nylon) permeated everything from parachutes to rations.
• The Manhattan Project: Du Pont ran Oak Ridge and Hanford, mishandled uranium waste, and manufactured the radioactive fuel for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Quote:
"They should just change their name to the Vatican...responsible for so many deaths." – Ed (61:51)

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7. Napalm and Anti-Humanitarian Inventions

[64:57] Marcus Parks:

• Du Pont helped develop napalm (with Standard Oil and Harvard’s Dr. Louis Fieser), allowing it to be cheaply mass-produced and used primarily against civilian populations in Japan and later in Vietnam.
• Casual reflection on the moral reckoning (and lack thereof) in American warfare.

Quote:
"A quarter of Tokyo was simply erased off the Earth by DuPont products." – Marcus (68:00)

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8. Corporate Colonialism: United Fruit and Banana Republics

[70:13] Marcus Parks:

• Du Pont controlled the United Fruit Company, directly responsible for the “banana massacre” in Colombia and US-backed coups (notably Guatemala), setting up decades of dictatorship and atrocity.
• Dulles brothers’ deep involvement as Secretary of State (John) and CIA Director (Allen).

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9. Birth of the “Forever Chemicals” (Teflon/C8)

[79:11] Marcus Parks:

• Du Pont’s invention of Teflon (C8), a “forever chemical” now found in 99% of human blood.
• Knowing C8’s dangers since the 1960s (tumors in rats, monkeys, and gene mutations), Du Pont continued production, lobbying, and environmental contamination—particularly in poor communities dependent on Du Pont jobs.

Quote:
"It is referred to as the devil’s piss. And I should know because I drink piss." – Henry (81:41)

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10. Legal Reckoning and Lack of Accountability

[90:10] Marcus Parks:

• 2000s: Class action suit exposed Du Pont's knowledge and concealment of C8’s risks.
• Du Pont paid a $347 million settlement (peanuts for them), and continued using a new, equally untested chemical (GenX) to replace C8.

Quote:
"These are the people in charge of our lives and have been for some time...Betting on collapse and misery more than ever." – Marcus (94:22)

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11. Final Thoughts: Why Do This Series?

[96:09] Henry Zebrowski:

• The hosts express their anger and moral disgust, emphasizing the importance of exposing systems of power and the real horror behind sanitized corporate legacies.
• A promise: next week, the series culminates in the infamous Foxcatcher murder (the crime and madness of John du Pont).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “The darkness of this world was shaped to an outsized degree by the decisions made by the Du Pont family.” – Marcus (08:20)
• “As long as the promise [of being rich] is there, people will keep voting against their own interests.” – Marcus (10:46)
• “If you ever bought a pack of smokes, you’ve given money to Du Pont.” – Marcus (13:08)
• “The duponts knew exactly what tetraethyl lead did from the very beginning. And they did everything in their power to cover it up so they could keep making as much money as possible.” – Marcus (30:08)
• “After World War I, many Duponts became the new American multimillionaires. Before long, the Duponts had broken the record for most yachts owned by a single American family.” – Marcus (35:06)
• “Colon cancer, by the way, is killing our generation en masse as we speak...We got to start a new campaign to screen millennials and Generation Xers for colon cancer.” – Marcus (92:31)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 01:02–07:00: Banter, intro, overview of Du Pont post-WWI
• 09:43–18:00: Consumer society, synthetic product inventions
• 23:06–34:00: Leaded gasoline (“loony gas”), House of the Butterflies, cover-ups
• 36:41–44:46: Economic manipulations, Great Depression, political influence
• 44:46–48:50: The Business Plot/coup attempt, FDR as "class traitor", Roosevelt family digressions
• 52:40–69:11: WWII, Manhattan Project, napalm, war profiteering, atomic legacy
• 70:13–76:12: United Fruit, banana republics, CIA coups in Latin America
• 79:11–89:59: Forever chemicals, Teflon (C8), environmental and bodily contamination, PR cover-ups
• 90:10–95:19: Class action lawsuit, “Gen X” chemical, moral call to action
• 95:43–97:20: Preview of Foxcatcher finale & hosts’ impassioned motivations

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Tone, Style, and Notable Humor

• Sarcastic, rage-fueled humor about capitalism, corporate evil, and true crime podcasting tropes.
• Absurd asides (pantyhose fetishes, “wells,” cousin marriage jokes, etc.)
• Genuine pathos over environmental and human destruction, especially regarding cancer clusters (Ohio River Valley, “Bucky Bailey”).
• Continual reminders that their mission is to “talk about things that interest us in this world. And I think it’s important to know.” (96:33)

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Final Takeaways

• The Du Pont family has impacted nearly every aspect of modern life—war, environment, consumerism, politics—with few, if any, meaningful consequences.
• The hosts’ horror at Du Pont’s history is laced with dark humor, but rooted in urgent calls for awareness and action.
• Next episode: The Foxcatcher murder and the “wild, toxic legacy” when a Du Pont heir is left to his own devices.

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For Listeners Skipping the Episode

This episode delivers a thorough, hilarious, and infuriating account of the Du Pont dynasty’s century of greed, violence, and chemical pollution—from gasoline poisonings to plasticized consumer culture, atomic bombs, napalm, CIA coups, and the molecules now embedded in your bloodstream. With comic relief, rage, and staggering fact, they demonstrate that horror isn’t always supernatural: it can be family business.

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Listen to the next episode for the thrilling, murderous conclusion: John du Pont and Foxcatcher.

Transcript

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

That's when the cannibalism starts. Started. What was that? Yeah, I mean, I'm not super looking forward to it, but I mean, as

[Marcus Parks]

someone who's had four colonoscopies, at this point the medication has actually gotten quite a bit better. It used to.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Do you like the taste of it now?

[Marcus Parks]

No. No, no, no. It's efficacy. It used to be.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I thought you just like to process more. No.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, they used to be you would just sit on the toilet all day long, like painful diarrhea. And the stuff they give you now, it just turns everything in your stomach into water and it's just like a fire hose coming out of your asshole.

[Henry Zebrowski]

As long as it's not painful.

[Marcus Parks]

It's not.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And you're filling my day because that's kind of one of the hardest things. Especially between gigs.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, especially when I'm trying to fill my CEO time.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Fill your day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's like a great way to do it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We ready to go?

[Marcus Parks]

Every once in a while I want to do it. Just sometimes when I'm feeling a little heavy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I get it. We'll get you in there. Just do a colonic.

[Marcus Parks]

I can.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, we'll blow it out.

[Ed Larson]

I've never done a colonic.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's. It's semi pseudoscience.

[Ed Larson]

You did it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It just blows old out of your.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And when I say heavy, I. I just mean. I don't mean like, I feel heavy. Yeah. I feel like I need to. To poop.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'll get it out of you.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'll jump on your stomach.

[Ed Larson]

You know what I found? Shaky a bunch.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Sure.

[Ed Larson]

You ever thought about getting held upside down and slapped all around?

[Marcus Parks]

Not by you.

[Ed Larson]

I could do it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'd love to put you on my back and I'll jost you around like I'm a big pony.

[Ed Larson]

I'll play airplane games.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, all right. Yeah. Dishwasher.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what I find funny is that every single old bastard I've ever met in my life all told me that I was going to get more conservative.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that time and the weight of age would finally wisen us to conservative ideals.

[Ed Larson]

They didn't count on you learning about murder every day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They really should put more warnings on books and what they do to you. Because still, even as the resident capitalist, I'm the Satanist capitalist of our trio. Yeah, that's right. That's me. And I'm still out there fighting the good fight, making sure I. I take kid. I take candy from children, resell it to them for the opportunity for them to learn about business.

[Ed Larson]

See, what you need to start doing is take candy from children and give it to poorer children.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, great idea. And then take it from. If they don't have candy for vice. Pork is without candy. I charge the poor kids for not having candy.

[Ed Larson]

Fee got excited because I thought you said pork kids. And I was like, they make kids out of pork now.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey,

[Ed Larson]

don't be a jerky boy.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, you're saying that you are getting less conservative as you grow older.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I am getting angrier and angrier and angrier. And the documentary. I'm going to go ahead and say that Eddie made me watch about this subject.

[Marcus Parks]

That would be the devil you know. The devil we know. Fantastic documentary.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. That was more unpleasant than any Joseph Fritzel coverage. I'd rather watch Joseph Fritzel have sex with his daughter than watch that documentary again. That's how sad it was.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Josef Fritzl had a plan.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He was locked in.

[Marcus Parks]

Welcome to the last podcast on the left, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with resident capitalist Satan witness, Henry Zabrowski.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm thinking about ruminating.

[Marcus Parks]

All right. You're going to ruminate about the capitalism.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, sure, absolutely. But I will say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say Joseph Fritzel wasn't locked in. The daughter was.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. And the man with the headband, It's Ed Larson.

[Ed Larson]

How you doing? Now, Marcus, I don't like to critique your work.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Ed Larson]

But I was reading through your script, and I noticed a couple of mistakes. Like every time it says Dupont, it says Dupont. And not, like a thick black line.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, that's kind of been. This is way too.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm so used to reading redactions, it's almost like my brain just puts redactions.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Dupont has a D and O and N and a T in it, so it clearly should have been redacted. And, you know.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, no. Heads deep now. He just talked about the Dante thing. I just get. That's all. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, and if we unredacted all this, the whole system would fall apart, Edward. Don't you know that? Don't you know that the dow is above 50,000?

[Ed Larson]

Oh, man, there's. But there's like so many names in your script that, like, hold people accountable.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's kind of angry.

[Marcus Parks]

It's hard to handle. It is hard to handle, but we're going to fucking handle it today.

[Henry Zebrowski]

David Pambayani, can I ask a serious question? She says, hey, the President's a pedophile and we're covering it up, obviously. But the dow is over 50,000.

[Marcus Parks]

Why are we talking about that?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sure. But my question is, is that. That actually made me realize, oh, so now that the global market has been separated from the presidency, that's what you're telling me then, is that his crimes are not affecting the market. That means we can really get him now, right? Because he's in more trouble than he's ever been. The market's doing great. That should show you the market's gonna do fine. Let's get some guillotines going, man. The market will hold.

[Marcus Parks]

And you know what? We're actually gonna prove that point again and again today. That the market will hold.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. I just can't believe the cousin won.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, that's why you hold things to the chest. Country thing like your niece.

[Marcus Parks]

Country was built by cousin fuckers. Some actually. Some of the best Americans we've ever had were cousin fuckers. We're going to get into it.

[Ed Larson]

They have lots of assessments. I mean, investments.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You don't get a great return on them. Assessments. So when we left. Wall Eyed.

[Marcus Parks]

So when we last left the Dupont family, in this continuing coverage of quite possibly the most evil family in American history, World War I had just wrapped up. And journalists were referring to the duponts as the merchants of death because of how much money the duponts had made selling munitions to the Allies during the war. The duponts were also starting to dabble in cultural manipulation. That's, of course, with the Boy Scouts of America. And this was in addition to their decades of governmental meddling. This was all in response to the rise of communism in Russia, which the duponts had taken personally because. Because the murdered Russian czar, Nicholas ii, he'd been a good customer. But even though the duponts had made an ungodly amount of money making products that were mostly used to kill human beings, they were about to enter a decade where they would begin to have an effect on just about every aspect of human life in the century to come. And I'm not just saying American life. I am saying human life. As it turned out, there truly was not a limit to the greed of the Duponts, and as a result, they would straddle the 20th century is not only a family that was involved in many of our deadliest wars, but also is one of the worst offenders when it came to introducing the forever chemicals that are continuing to kill people around the world every day. In other words, there's going to be a lot of death in this episode, and the duponts are at the center of it all. If anything, this episode will prove that the darkness of this world was shaped to an outsized degree by the decisions made by the dupont family.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Okay, I'm going to do a little think tank here. Okay. Now, let's say we're all CEOs of a company.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay. Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Let's say we're a podcast network. CEOs, okay.

[Marcus Parks]

All right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Now let's just say fired. All right. Imagine. Imagine comes out. Podcasts cause ear cancer.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It comes out. Before we face allegations, before we get to the Paddamberg trials, which we're hung for a crime that we' get to, that there will be retribution.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Three years from now, it's going to come out that podcast cause ear kids.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And right now, this is an internal study that we've done saying that podcasts cause ear cancer, and we're getting the message in.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Marcus, how do we spin this?

[Marcus Parks]

Well, if podcasts cause ear cancer, then the only thing that we're going to need to do is we're just going to have to go to video and subtitles.

[Ed Larson]

Netflix.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Netflix

[Marcus Parks]

subtitles. Read the subtitles. As I am talking, we've already solved the problem.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. And if it wasn't for this new rash of ear cancer, there would be so much less ear cancer research.

[Henry Zebrowski]

See, and that's a waste of money. That's a real CEO right there.

[Marcus Parks]

Creating jobs. Yeah. Now, as I said at the end of the last episode, the 1920s was a decade in which the DuPonts would have the largest impact on American society outside of providing gunpowder for all our wars. And Our various colonial conquests across the continent. See, the 1920s were when the era of mass production and modern consumer society truly began. It's the birth of the modern world. And the duponts were right there at the forefront of everything. They guided the construction of this new world by having a big say in how it worked, who was in charge, and most importantly, how money was made. The 1920s saw the birth of the white collar worker, the regular middle class Joe with the office job. And the duponts knew that they could continue to get away with anything. Just so long as enough of those white collar workers believed that they could one day join families like the duponts in their depravity and their greed. As long as the promise is there, that's all you need. Those people will keep voting against their interests for merely the promise.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. Yeah, exactly. If you think that one day that you could be a billionaire, you will want them to not get taxed.

[Marcus Parks]

Exactly. You're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be a billionaire one day. I don't want to pay taxes when I'm a billionaire.

[Henry Zebrowski]

One of the super key things, and I'll tell you right now, if you want to get a leg up on getting into a billionaire family, you have to just develop a taste for unibrows and gills and old Cummins. Yeah. If you can just build yourself up to that, just get into that mind space, you might have what it takes to be a billionaire.

[Ed Larson]

We're being hard on the dupont family.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I honestly, I've been saying that at home at my money.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I pull my money out and I apologize to it. I say I'm sorry.

[Ed Larson]

If it wasn't for them, there'd be no Toxic Avenger.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Where would Lloyd Kaufman be? Oh, my God. Just a professor at Harvard.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But the duponts also knew that they could not count on constant war to keep their bottom line high. And since the conquest of the American Indian had been done and dusted for decades by the 1920s.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's sad for them.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

The Duponts knew that they needed to diversify. So the Duponts purchased a majority stake in General Motors. At the same time, the automobiles were becoming an integral part of American culture.

[Ed Larson]

Now in the company General Motors or just Motors? In General.

[Marcus Parks]

A good question. The company General Motors.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thanks, Barney. Just remember, next week when you come by, let's just ask simpler questions.

[Ed Larson]

I like motors. I know.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know that you do. And that sounds just like one.

[Marcus Parks]

The duponts also acquired dye patents for the paint used on those Automobiles. So the duponts made money twice on the car and on the paint.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Fuck, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

The duponts also produced the first cheap cellulose film, which allowed the fledgling motion picture to increase production dramatically. We wouldn't have the most motion picture industry if not for this. Finally, they began acquiring or creating entire chemical industries that would produce such modern miracles as shatterproof glass, rayon, and cellophane. Now, rayon, I'm trying to get rid

[Henry Zebrowski]

of all my fake, fake fabrics, man.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, all your polyesters.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it rubs on my nipples. Hurts my nipples.

[Marcus Parks]

It does. Now, cellophane is important here. Cellophane had no practical use when it was invented, so the duponts, seeing the new consumerist world for what it was, they created a use for it. They put a team of scientific researchers to work to see how they could best use this thin, clear plastic. And it was discovered that cellophane was a great way to wrap products like bread or cigarettes. If you've ever bought a pack of smokes, you've given money to dupont. Any pack of cigarettes that is wrapped in cellophane gives money to DuPont. That is just one of the tiny ways in which they make money off of this world.

[Ed Larson]

Man, I love that little wrapping paper. I used to always, like, whenever I, like, sell weed or like, I'd pinch a nug off, you know, you take that off, put the two nugs in there, then you light it with a lighter. Yeah. So you could burn it and put the plastic into the weed.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, we all did. There's not a single person that didn't put two hydrocodone in an old cigarette holder wrapper and burn it with a lighter and then take those later on, open it with your teeth, and then take those for whatever you. When you're going to work, obviously.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, man. When I used to smoke so much like that, like, the high point of my day would be taking the cellophane off of a. Off a new pack of cigarettes. Like, there was no happier moment than taking that off.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Pure joy.

[Marcus Parks]

Pure joy.

[Ed Larson]

Is there any reason to pack cigarettes?

[Marcus Parks]

It keeps them.

[Ed Larson]

It's fun to do. I know that.

[Marcus Parks]

It keeps them a little fresher.

[Ed Larson]

It's.

[Marcus Parks]

That's the thing. It helps a little bit. Like, that's the thing about cellophane is that all of this, it helps a little bit. You know, it does kind of keep things fresher, but it also produces ungodly amounts of garbage.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What are you talking about? The birds love it. Yeah, the birds like having new opportunities to learn new mediums.

[Marcus Parks]

They don't love it as much as the fish. Cause the fish. I mean, if they didn't want to have their stomachs filled with plastic, why keep eating it?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Why eating the water?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, that's where I keep my plastic.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

God damn morons.

[Marcus Parks]

Now the non explosive chemicals created or bought by Dupont Pont would actually be their biggest moneymakers of the 20th century. They began making lacquers, varnishes, acids, paints, and artificial leathers. Pleather. Then they would hire a team to turn each and every product into something marketable. Rayon, for example, was an artificial silk made from wood pulp created by the DuPont Corporation. Rayon textiles are used for a lot of shit. But one of their big uses in everyday American life was artificial silk stockings, which became hugely popular and eventually evolved by the 1950s into pantyhose.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If you. We didn't like ripping them open so much with our teeth, they wouldn't do so well. But so many people seem to get a kind of unnatural, almost unholy joy ripping them, Ripping them off somebody.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And while pantyhose might seem like a small thing, this adds up. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

For some people it isn't a small thing.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Some people not let it go, huh? Some people you're just kind of stuck right in that pantyhose fetish. I would.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no, no, no. It's a fascination.

[Marcus Parks]

So you're saying that the dupont family directly contributed to one of your personal fetishes?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, I don't have that. I'm just saying it's generally objectively fascinating for anybody to watch a woman who was stuck in a well or in a way outside mostly, I'd say most general public people, something stuck into a well. And she's a haunted girl. She's wearing pantyhose because she's obviously mature, bigger in the back area.

[Marcus Parks]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You gotta haul her out by them. Yeah. And then. Yeah, my. The objectively sexy thing of accidentally ripping them open as you're pulling her out of the well is one of those things that I think everybody can connect to and relate to.

[Marcus Parks]

Are you describing the episode of Pretty Face that your wife was in?

[Henry Zebrowski]

She did the video, she did the stunt work for it.

[Ed Larson]

Wow. This became wholesome somehow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm just saying everybody likes pantyhose.

[Marcus Parks]

But that is to say, this adds up. And by creating the product. Product first and finding a use for it second, the duponts greatly helped with the creation of the highly wasteful American consumerist lifestyle. Their R and D paired with their incredibly effective advertising department, which their advertising department alone employed thousands of people. This soon Made the Duponts the head of the world's largest chemical empire.

[Ed Larson]

So they were basically playing like, whose line is it Anyway? Props with random shit around the office. Than making billions of dollars.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, what can we do with.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I don't know. I put. Put a potato in it. Wow.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's a potato swinger.

[Marcus Parks]

It's a potato swinger.

[Ed Larson]

Like, no, no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know about how. How many people are swinging potatoes. I don't know.

[Ed Larson]

Barney, what if we wrapped the bottom of a woman in it?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wait a second. What is that feeling? Yeah, I just got hard. I think we have to do it.

[Marcus Parks]

And as we all know, Jimmy getting hard is a number one sales team number. That means that if he gets hard, that this is going to be a big seller. So put. Put that wrap on that woman.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, did they ever make condoms?

[Marcus Parks]

I don't know if they ever got in a latex. I do know.

[Ed Larson]

Probably the shit that kills the sperm.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, they might have gotten a spermicide. Yeah, they were. They might have gotten into latex. I know they got in a spandex. We'll talk about that later. A ton of synthetic material like Mylar that we. The. You know, the thing that we put comic books in. You know, like the plastic that Mylar comic. Like, they invented that. So much shit.

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

See mintmobile.com now, because the DuPonts already had their hands in car manufacturing and painting, it only made sense that they would try their hand at at fuel as well. And here's where we begin exploring the true unabashed evils of the dupont's chemical dominion. See, while the duponts did not manufacture commercial automobile fuel itself, they did create and manufacture the so called lead in leaded gasoline. And this manufacture would have an incalculable negative effect on American and world history. In the early 1920s, a scientist working for the DuPont control General Motors discovered a chemical compound called tetraethyl lead. Tetraethyl lead made engine combustion more efficient, increasing both fuel economy and vehicle performance. Sounds like a good thing overall. Yes.

[Ed Larson]

Let's go.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want to go back. Push it out. Spray the hose.

[Marcus Parks]

But after dupont built a chemical plant to manufacture tetraethyl lead in a southern New Jersey township ominously called Deep Water, they found very quickly that tetraethyl lead came with dire consequences.

[Ed Larson]

I wonder if this is why Jersey doesn't pump their own gas for health reasons.

[Marcus Parks]

Extremely short order, dupont discovered that the tetraethyl lead manufacturing process, it made workers go violently insane. DuPont employees at the Deepwater plant even began dying in raving delirium. Which soon led people to refer to tetraethyl lead as loony gas.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's so fun. Loony gas. Oh, it's like working at the joke factory. They must only laugh. What? Oh, to have a dupont community I could be a part of.

[Ed Larson]

I like farts. That's my loony gas goose Work.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Good work, Barney.

[Ed Larson]

Good time over here.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're bleeding out of your ears.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, I'll eat it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Love Barney. Love his attitude.

[Marcus Parks]

Love his attitude. He's always gonna be number one in my heart self.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Starting now.

[Marcus Parks]

The already creepy Deep Water chemical plant soon gained an even creepier nickname. People began calling it the House of the Butterflies. That's nice. Can you begin? Yeah. Look at like this factory on a hill in New Jersey. It's like behold the House of the Butterflies.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, dude, it sounds like a like Neil Gaiman place where they put children that are like, like they, you first they think they're being brought to a magic school, but then it's like a prison.

[Marcus Parks]

No. Yeah. It's where they grind up their bones to make magic dust.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I like going into the Butterfly gardens and with my little nephew. Cuz he's, I mean he ate like four last Time we were there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like, get out.

[Marcus Parks]

Try this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What's this one taste like? What's this one taste like? Is this one here? Try this one. This one might be raspberry.

[Ed Larson]

I'm bringing ketchup next time.

[Marcus Parks]

It was called the House of the Butterflies because workers affected by the tetraethyl fumes would try to snatch invisible butterflies out of the air. And many drew butterflies on the brick walls of the factory. The fumes. Yeah, it's fucking insane.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So fun.

[Ed Larson]

It's a very cute disease.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, that's why they call it looney gas. What a wonderful way to celebrate diversity.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, fumes from tetraethyl lead can be absorbed not just through the lungs, but through simple skin contact. And like many of Dupont's chemicals, it is totally resistant to all forms of detoxification. In other words, once it's in the body, it stays there and it builds up until the victim finally succumbs to lead poisoning. Amongst many other terrible symptoms like seizures, vomiting and headaches, lead poisoning can also cause diminished cognitive function, mood disorders and irritability. And when you add a violent personality into that mix, you got all the makings of a serial killer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You. Know, there's no excuse. We've done it, we've cleaned it up, we're done with it Now.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, this shit was floating around in our era for decades upon decades. Especially in smog ridden true crime capitals like our fair Los Angeles. I mean, you've seen the pictures of what LA looked like in the 50s and 60s and 70s Mordor. Yeah, it did.

[Ed Larson]

Don't look great now.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, hey, it's, I will say it's way better than it ever been.

[Marcus Parks]

I, I even New York City as

[Henry Zebrowski]

well, even for when I first started coming here, it is extremely better.

[Ed Larson]

That's why the sunsets are so beautiful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You mean it? Tell me, you, every time you look at a sunset and you, you see that nice slice of green, you thank the punt, okay? Because, oh, it wouldn't be so nice if it wasn't all for the chemicals making the birds gay.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, bro, everybody knows the sky is supposed to be purple.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This bird's got two peaks. That means extra food. Lucky bird.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, as more cars hit the roads of America and more leaded gas was used, the crime rate in our country steadily rose. It's thought that the fumes from leaded gas were most harmful to kids. That all the exhaust common from the tailpipes of these cars prevented the full development of a child's brain. While it didn't necessarily make a person more violent exposure to tetraethyl lead made people more likely to act on violent impulses. The reason why we think leaded gas caused developmental problems is because gasoline containing DuPont's tetraethyl lead was not only in use, but it was the standard in America from 1923 until it was finally banned in 1986. Now, the crime rate in America didn't suddenly drop in 1986. We all remember that the 90s were rife with violent crime. Nobody move, nobody get hurt.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Because it was also very deeply hidden in the poetry written by our central. By our very sensitive artists like Tupac.

[Marcus Parks]

That's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And Biggie Smalls. Poets.

[Marcus Parks]

But the crime rate did begin to sharply drop a few years after leaded gas was banned. And lest you think that I'm confusing causation with correlation here, many countries that have used and banned leaded gas have seen the same rise and fall in violent crime at roughly the same rates on roughly the same timeline as America did.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And no matter what these pieces of shit. Shit. In our capitol are trying to tell you, we're actually at the least violent point in American history as well. Like, we're actually in a place since where we have. Despite all the mass shootings, despite everything, we're still at less violence than ever before.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Then it's the safest America's ever been right now, weirdly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Isn't that fucked?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, Yeah, I think. Yeah. New York City, even with happening, they're just.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They're literally creating a problem in Minneapolis.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

To solve it. That's what they're doing.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Camden used to be the murder capital of America. And then, you know, everyone got murdered eventually.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like one of those things, man. There used to be so much more people around here to kill. Yeah, yeah, I remember that, too. Yeah. You remember how awesome last year was? Yeah. Let's go to Delaware.

[Ed Larson]

Is this still considered murder?

[Henry Zebrowski]

If it's a dog, yeah, Barney, for you it is.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, you might also play devil's advocate here and say that there was no way that the DuPont Corporation knew what kind of effect leaded gas would have on the public in the long term term. But as we'll see again and again with the duponts, they knew exactly what tetraethyl lead did from the very beginning. And they did everything in their power to cover it up so they could keep making as much money as possible. Shortly after the Deepwater Chemical plant opened in the early 1920s, a worker named Frank Durr, who'd been working for the duponts. There's no other way to say that name. Besides, he'd been working for the Dupont since he was 12 years old. And he started working with tetraethylide at the age of of 37. Endurer had been a perfectly normal man prior to Deepwater, but he was soon plagued by terrible nightmares. After working with tetraethyl lead, he eventually lost grip with reality completely and was sent to a mental asylum where he died in a straightjacket.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Listen closely, Listen closely. I had a dream. I had a dream and it's real.

[Marcus Parks]

What was was a car.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was an old jalopy car. It started talking to me in a funny voice and I kept kind of laughing to myself because I kept completing the sentences he was saying. He would say stuff like, let's get her done. I saw another car in a Mexican accent. He was so funny and goofy. Oh, I just, I want to live in that world. I want to live in a car based world.

[Ed Larson]

You know, there's no villain in the that movie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Cuz guess who the villain is? The Guant. Making people hallucinate that it's real.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, about five years after Frank Durr, five workers at the deep water plant began raving incoherently before developing uncontrollable twitching and convulsions. Reportedly, all five of these men died screaming in delirium from the effects of tetraethylad poisoning. This is in the 1920s and America still had 60 more years of tetraethyl lead use to go, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sorry to laugh, but there's just something about somebody just going.

[Marcus Parks]

Like, I think it tapers. I think you don't necessarily just. It's not like Monty Pythons and then you fall.

[Ed Larson]

It's like that old Holden joke. Sometimes I scream myself to sleep.

[Marcus Parks]

Now there's one thing the duponts do just as well as chemicals and munitions. It's public relations. So dupont's PR team got to work dismissing the severity of what the so called loony gas was doing to its workers. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the dupont's PR team pushed or even created the term loony gas in reference to tetraethyl lead to make the whole scandal seem silly and less dangerous. Now, dupont did indeed reduce deaths from tetraethyl lead poisoning in their plants. But hundreds continued to be poisoned. These people would be treated, then sent back to work where they'd be poisoned again. In one 18 month stretch, 300 workers were poisoned, causing hysteria and extreme anxiety. Eight of those 300 died. And even though a 1936 investigation showed that the poisonings and deaths were caused by neglect and a lack of safety precautions, the duponts were never punished by or even charged. Instead, they continued manufacturing tetraethyl lead. The fumes from the exhaust coming out of every single car in America eventually poisoned much of this country to one degree or another. The resulting brain damage caused untold amounts of death, destruction, and misery through the violent crimes caused by those who were poisoned. Serial killers were just a part of it. And hell, besides the serial killer epidemic of the 70s, 80s and 90s, one could even argue that the lowered inhibitions of the hippie movement in the 60s might have also come from tetraethyl lead poisoning.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And it's also why their brains are so pickled that those same people that tried to create a big civil union like Civil Rights March World, they would then become the group of people that would subjugate us all.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And would vote Ronald Reagan in the office. And also the reason why the boomers are so fucking awful on the Internet and in the community. They really can't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They can't regulate their emotions. They don't know what's going on. They're extremely mean and disoriented. Yep, Yep.

[Marcus Parks]

Quite possibly. But of course, that's just speculation.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's just conjecture.

[Marcus Parks]

The duponts couldn't be bothered with what was happening to their workers at plants like Deepwater. After World War I, many Duponts became the new American multimillionaires. Before long, the Duponts had broken the record for most yachts owned by a single American family. Yeah. And each yacht, each yacht had, like, a cute name. Like, one was called the Gadfly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's funny as hell. Congrats, dupont. Hard work all around, everybody. I'm doing the. I'm doing the thing that. That kids do now.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Where they clicking their fingers together because. Because children have become elderly African American people.

[Marcus Parks]

Dupont's profits continued to skyrocket throughout the 1920s because they made money off every road and car built in America. They had hands in every industry involved, from concrete and rubber to steel and paint. Taint, their financial executive at the time, John Raskob, increased profits even further by maximizing the output of products while minimizing the cost of labor, which was bad for the worker, but great for the investor. Speaking of investors, the DuPonts were also one of the main companies who manipulated the stock market throughout the 1920s to maximize their wealth. Businesses would go under as a result of this stock manipulation, and the duponts would buy Those companies for pennies on the dollar. Of course, that stock manipulation eventually led directly to the stock market crash of 1929 and the Great Depression that followed. And it can be laid directly on the feet of the DuPonts amongst other business leaders. And of course, this caused even more untold misery to millions across the globe. I'm going to make another little, I guess, speculation here.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Marcus Parks]

As we said in our Himmler series, if we didn't have the Great Depression, Hitler probably wouldn't have ever gotten into power because the crash of Germany's economy effectively opened the door for the Nazis. So did the duponts cause the Holocaust? I'd say kinda.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It definitely didn't help. You know, like stuff didn't help. The rampant sort of like unmitigated growth, like a tumor in greed, center of the stock market in our entire industry kind of zone. I think that didn't help.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

But what people don't talk about though is that if there was no Great Depression, how would we know what it's like when things are good, you know?

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that's the silver lining. That's what brings to the table.

[Marcus Parks]

It really is.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because that's truly important. Think about how, how amazing it would have been.

[Marcus Parks]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We didn't have the Great Depression.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Then it's like our whole vibe's off.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Like no Woody Guthrie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No Woody Guthrie. No east of Eden.

[Marcus Parks]

Do you wanna.

[Ed Larson]

Come on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's worth it, Steinbeck. Everybody loves it. Laugh a minute. Everybody loves a big black pearl.

[Ed Larson]

If there was no dust bowl, then, you know, it would just be on a plate.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Why? Why would maids.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, just as it had been with the boom and bust economic cycles of the 19th century, the Duponts were far too rich for the Great Depression to touch them in any meaningful way. While profits did drop after the crash of 29, just one single Dupont, Pierre Dupont, he was still able to profit $26 million in 1932. That's down from 31.5 million prior to the Great Depression.

[Henry Zebrowski]

To be honest though, well, that is a bit of a disappointment to the shareholders.

[Marcus Parks]

It is a bit of a disappointment to the shareholders. But I'm talking. That is personal wealth. That is personal wealth of Pierre Dupont. But while the duponts were still making unimaginable amounts of money, the majority of Americans were suffering because of their actions and the actions of other wealthy Americans. And so Americans elected Franklin Delano Roosevelt to the presidency in 1932 to try and turn the whole ship around. Around. Now, Roosevelt was himself fabulously wealthy. So wealthy in Fact that he did indeed marry his cousin.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Eleanor Roosevelt was his cousin. She didn't even have to change her name after the wedding.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's so nice to skip a trip to the court and the civil city hall and the DMV and stuff like that. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I think it's cool to marry your cousin if they're gay, cuz that's kind of funny.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They never kiss.

[Ed Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't think FDR are an Eleanor Roosevelt ever had sex with each other. Well, they had a baby. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He could shove his fingers with his seed up into her. I've seen that happen.

[Marcus Parks]

They had, they had sex with each other. Like. Yes, Eleanor Roosevelt or you know, her sexuality is of course a matter of, you know, debate and discussion. But they, they did have sex. And. But FDR also had his own. He had many, many girlfriends on the side. But that's the interesting thing is that it hurt Eleanor every time that he did so. Which tells me that there was some so of definitely like relationship there.

[Ed Larson]

One thing we.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All we will know is that Eleanor was always on top. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

She had her own house that would. Looked at the other house.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. Funeral. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

See, honestly, it's a really nice. That's nice.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

And then she did have like this. Really? Because when I went to Hyde Park, I was, we were asking, of course. Yeah, we had a like, private tour

[Marcus Parks]

and Hyde park is amazing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's really cool.

[Ed Larson]

I actually really like the FDR presidential libraries.

[Marcus Parks]

Really cool.

[Ed Larson]

But so, but when we went, we're like talking to her, we're like, hey, what about Eleanor being gay? You know, all this stuff. And then she's like, well, yeah, she did live with a woman in her house, but she also was banging this dude. And she showed me like a picture of this like strapping man. Like.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Holding her and stuff like that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So she's a security guy, right?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, she was just partying.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, Eleanor was just horny as. But that's just, that's what Eleanor was. Yeah, she was a swinging lady.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Great Eleanor Roosevelt quote. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

[Marcus Parks]

That's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She also. One of my favorite quotes of hers.

[Ed Larson]

I should have brought a snorkel.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She's got a real Steve Buscemi face.

[Marcus Parks]

All right, all right, I'm gonna get out of here before you start in on the Eleanor Roosevelt's face, Jo. Well, Eleanor was in fact Teddy Roosevelt's favorite niece. She was part of the Oyster Bay Roosevelts. Fdr, on the other hand, he was part of the Hyde park faction of the Roosevelts. But that's all to establish that Roosevelt was fucking rich. He was the cousin of a recent president. But despite Franklin and Eleanor shortcomings, like, for example, the later internment camps, they still genuinely gave a fuck about the common man. And the Roosevelts were often seen as class traitors by people like the duponts as a result. See, the duponts were not happy when FDR was elected President, but they were somewhat satiated when Roosevelt told them that he was more than willing to work with them rather than against them when he took office. That happiness, of course, only lasted as long as it took FDR to actually implement policy. See, the inflection point that we're at today with AI is extremely similar to the one faced by America during the Great Depression. And it is also very likely that the AI bubble is going to lead to another crash, like the crash at 29 sometime in the near future.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's never going to wake up and be God in the machine. I'm sorry, Peter Thiel, I don't mean to disappoint you.

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Marcus Parks]

As it is now, technological advances in the 1920s had changed the fabric of American society because more goods and services were being produced with less labor. But if people had no money to buy those goods and services, then the whole American system collapses. And FDR knew that. So FDR used the government to tip the scales. He created public works projects to not only build infrastructure, but to fund jobs in the arts, theater, music, and history. All this, of course, had to be paid for. But instead of putting the burden on the lower classes, FDR simply raised taxes on the extremely wealthy. A novel fucking idea. And if there's a single politician listening who cares even a little bit about anything other than gaining and holding power, FDR's New Deal programs and policies paid for by taxing the wealthy. They were some of the most popular and successful programs. Programs in American history.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, they brought us food back. Yeah. I will say, man, you know, we're

[Henry Zebrowski]

talking a lot of mess, but I'm pretty happy that my tax dollars went to kidnapping the president of Venezuela, because I think it was worth it. I think that it was completely worth it. I got my own little bucket of crude. Yeah, that's what you guys have to understand. What you don't know is that if you hit a certain marker in money. Yeah, I get a bucket of crude every year. Yeah, I can do with whatever I want. And honestly, this year I'm just taking it to the beach.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, I.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, you don't have to really

[Ed Larson]

take it to the beach because all those little sewer grates, you know, it says there goes right to the beach.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, but if I don't drive to the beach, then how am I going to contribute to the pollution going to the beach?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh yeah, that's why I send a Waymo.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I purposely died. Pick up an order, Waymo. An empty Waymo.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

To go there and done.

[Marcus Parks]

But there is a reason why we're talking about all this. Because raising taxes on the rich, that put FDR squarely in the dupont's crosshairs. Roosevelt made the dupont's even angrier when he implemented the Glass Steagall act, which prevented the kind of stock manipulation that had led directly to the Great Depression. Glass Steagall act, by the way, was repealed in 1999 by Bill fucking Clinton. And its repeal led directly to the Great Recession of 2008. So. So yes, this shit is necessary. But because FDR was raising taxes on the rich and putting rules into place that would prevent average Americans from getting fucked over en masse, the duponts and other business leaders became convinced that they had to prepare for a literal civil war to prevent their America from being destroyed by so called socialists.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Does it sound familiar?

[Ed Larson]

Yet

[Marcus Parks]

in this, this is simply because the government was like, you should pay taxes because the DuPonts were not paying. Like, you gotta, you gotta pay taxes. Like, sorry. And so you can't engage in games that might cause the stock market crash. He can't do that anymore. And they're like civil war.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like you literally will make maybe like 2%, 5% less. Like this is the thing that you're. We're caught in this idea constantly. This like the pressure that we just get as a little tiny network of like, why aren't you, why aren't you done a live show on the moon yet?

[Marcus Parks]

Why are you.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Where's your, where's your. Like, it's a kind of shit where you're like, what are you fucking talking about?

[Ed Larson]

All I know is 33% of my money is the same as 33% of their fucking money.

[Marcus Parks]

Goddamn right. And so in 1933, the Duponts joined a cabal of businessmen in an attempt to actually overthrow the United States government. This came to be known as the Business Plot or, or the Wall Street Push. This was an actual coup that was attempted in this country. The plan was to overthrow FDR and install a military dictatorship that the business community could control with a general named Smedley Butler as a dictator.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Smedley I cannot wait to use the cannons.

[Ed Larson]

We're going to go with Frank Butler, but he's like, your name's not evil enough. And I will have my handlebar massage attached as well.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Ed Larson]

And when I'm done with them, I'm going to kill the Smurfs.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I honestly think that Vice President Gargamel has a lot of adults, and we really should just. Honestly, I think we should hear him out and really kind of see how it plays.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, Butler was approached by a Wall street broker with all the details of the plot, but Butler, actually, he was a loyal American. He was immediately upon. He was, however, smart enough to hide it. Butler continued getting information from the broker until he had enough knowledge to testify in front of Congress where he revealed the plot and the people involved. And tell me again if this sounds familiar, but all the Potters had to say was, nah, I didn't do that. And not a single one of them faced consequences for trying to overthrow a democratically elected president.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like they caught a mid coup. They were like, so we caught everything. And they're like, oh, oh, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I didn't do that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean, us, me merely joshing, sir.

[Marcus Parks]

Is the First Amendment not in this country anymore? Is he not a part of this country anymore?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Choose Smedley. Oh, Smedley's the guy.

[Ed Larson]

He's the good one.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, after FDR was elected in a landslide in 1936, the Duponts pretty much resigned themselves.

[Ed Larson]

That's also how he got around.

[Marcus Parks]

Some.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What's wrinkling? A surfboard that's really good.

[Marcus Parks]

Bring out the presidential skateboard and someone

[Henry Zebrowski]

bring the four presidential huskies to pull it.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, after that reelection, the duponts pretty much resigned themselves to working within the system. And they soon discovered that it really wasn't that much different from one they'd already been working within for 100 years. They were still able to hire the Pinkerton Detective Agency to infiltrate labor unions and prevent those guys from striking in the North. And they were still able to recruit the KKK to terrorize and murder black workers at their facilities in the South. The DuPont Corporation actually went on a bit of an invention streak in the 30s due to a scientist named Dr. Wallace Carruthers, who developed over 50 patents for the DuPonts. Amongst many other products, Dr. Carruthers invented DuPont's most profitable product ever, Nylon. Oh, nylon is used in everything?

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yes.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, it's in stockings, curtains, underwear, hair brushes, toothbrushes, surgical sutures, guitar strings, fishing lines, yoga pants. That's Spandex or Lycra.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, whatever holds it in.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. So.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's far too many products to name here.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Is that why they're hard to rip? Yeah, cuz that's so frustrating when a woman is bent over inside of a well and she has this Lululemon, these like scent guard ones and they just don't rip.

[Marcus Parks]

Did you find a. A website that's all well pornography?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, absolutely not.

[Marcus Parks]

Well based.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, I would never do something like that specifically.

[Ed Larson]

Is that why you bought Natalie a bucket for your anniversary?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, that was because of all my chum.

[Ed Larson]

So much chum.

[Marcus Parks]

Realizing now the fetish isn't. Isn't St. Wells.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There's just something about ripping.

[Marcus Parks]

No, it's the wells. The wells.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, I like the trees. I like stonework.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, sadly, Dr. Wallace Carruthers suffered from depression throughout his life. And shortly after developing nylon, his sister died. He also felt like he'd run out of ideas. So in 1937, Carruthers died by suicide after ingesting potassium cyanide in a lonely hotel room.

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

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[Marcus Parks]

Now, even though nylon would be the dupont's most profitable perfect product, don't forget there's still a munitions company.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, wow.

[Marcus Parks]

And While World War I had been incredibly profitable for the DuPonts, it was nothing compared to what they would make from World War II. Now, the DuPonts were what you'd call early adopters in the Second World War, as early as 1925. That's just six years after the first war's end. The DuPonts were illegally smuggling arms to warlords in Manchuria, and they had full deals with the Chinese government by 1929. Duponts, however, were all about playing both sides, just so long as one of those sides was in America. The DuPonts also invested in the Japanese military.

[Ed Larson]

Wait a second.

[Henry Zebrowski]

These guys are really fun. They're super smart.

[Marcus Parks]

And when Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931, one of the earliest conflicts of World War II, and also led to such horrible events as the Rape of Nank King. They did so with munitions bearing the name D. Dupont. Dupont also sold powder and dynamite all over Europe throughout the 1930s. And they even invested over a million dollars into Benito Mussolini's chemical industries in Fascist Italy. And so when World War II began, the Dupont name was all over the battlefield.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We were trying to work with Mr. Mussolini, and he had a lot of wonderful ideas. But I do feel like that the Parmesan gas is not really as effective as it is sort of just making the men gather where it is, and. And they're eating it with their hand. It's delicious.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's. Wow.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. He need nobody needed he needs some non stick Teflon on that noose.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm a free. I'll see you later.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, I'm a lack of soap.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, I'm sure you're wondering by this point how the Nazis play into all this. And let me tell you, the duponts do not disappoint.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Fuck yeah, dude.

[Marcus Parks]

Fuck yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Don't leave a fucking set on the table.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. See, it was illegal to sell arms to Germany after World War I because of the Treaty of Versailles. So in the 1920s, the Duponts got around this treaty by arranging for the Germans to, quote, unquote, steal powder and dynamite in Turkey. By 1933, the year Hitler took power, the Duponts were smuggling shipments of munitions into Germany through the Netherlands. Then they purchased a 20% stake in Hitler's largest German munitions manufacturing manufacturer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

See? Yeah, this is business, guys. Yeah, it is business.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, I mean, speaking of business, by this point, and this is something that goes way under the radar, an American Senate munitions committee had agreed to allow American companies to sell munitions to Nazi Germany. To be fair, British and French munitions companies were also selling to the Nazis in 1934.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, how else are they going to win?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm just, you know, just sad because they got a real return on their investment, didn't they?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But regardless of who all was doing it, the duponts were indeed one of the companies supplying the Nazi war machine in 1934 in advance of Hitler's conquest. As a result, I'm willing to bet that more than a few Poles were murdered by dupont munitions when the Nazis marched east a few years later. Dupont, however, remained publicly neutral regarding the rise of fascism in Europe. Until, of course, America entered the fray.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They really wanted to distract the Polish. They could have dropped a lot of sheer panty hose all over the little villages filled with wells. So many wells out there on the little villages and just imagining all those little. The peasants struggling with the pantyhose that

[Marcus Parks]

really would have the Goronskis and the

[Henry Zebrowski]

Balanskis and the Dublouskovitz and the Gorskis. The Gorskis for certain.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

You know how many fucking kielbasa you could fit in pantyhose?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, I mean, you know, yeah, if they're long

[Marcus Parks]

now behind the scenes in the highest levels of the United States government. In the 1930s, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his cabinet made a secret industrial mobilization plan that would have 20,000 factories, including DuPont factories, switch to the production of war materials. In 1940, Congress approved a $17 billion arms program. And as we all know, World War II did indee indeed do quite a bit to get America out of the depression. That was, of course, caused by families like the DuPont. So arms manufacturers got us into it, and they got us out of it as well. One of the little known facts about America's involvement in World War II is that Dupont did have an inadvertent role to play in Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. See, silk had been Japan's biggest export, but DuPont had effectively replaced silver silk with nylon. That cratered Japan's economy. The yen fell to low, low levels. Japan saw this as an effective declaration of economic war. And while this, of course, wasn't Japan's only reason for attacking America, it absolutely contributed to the decision.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And honestly, I'm trying to pull. I said this before, but I'm trying to go back to all the old fabrics.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Trying to get back into it because they're made better, they feel better, and it's nicer. So it's like, you know, silk is nicer than nylon.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just more expensive.

[Ed Larson]

My pants are made out of lamb skin.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Not allergenic. And also what's nice is natural body heat. Makes it kind of smell like it's Easter in here.

[Ed Larson]

Bad?

[Marcus Parks]

No. Once America got into World War II, Rosemary. The Duponts didn't really have a problem with FDR anymore. Dupont produced 70% of the explosives used by the United States during the war. 4.5 billion pounds of explosives in all. They also sold 38 million yards of nylon for parachutes, 93 million pounds of cellophane to wrap rations and drugs, paint to cover the hulls of the entire United States Navy, and 51,000 miles of DuPont film to capture the action. This, of course, is only a fraction of what DuPont made for the government during the war, not mention what they made for the Allies. United States military, for example, bought £11 million of the incredibly cancerous insecticide DDT. That's another Dupont product to delouse troops and kill malaria spreading mosquitoes in the Pacific Theater. From whatever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Mosquitoes.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, no, I hate. Now I hate mosquitoes, too. And from what I remember, the cessation of DDT use in New York City is why bed bugs made such a huge comeback when we all moved there in the mid 2000s. So there's trade offs.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's actually DDT's having like a reconsideration moment. Like, they've been like. It's kind of funny. Like they've been saying now that they think that there might have been, which is hilarious. The idea that now they're like defending DDT to come out and say it might not be as bad as we originally thought it was. And now they're starting to say actually the damage that bedbugs, ticks, mosquitoes do might actually equal out to whatever other environmental or health disease DDT does to you.

[Marcus Parks]

Breast cancer. That's what DDT causes.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm sure if it was testicular cancer, people would probably have a lot more to say about it. But since it's breast cancer, well, cuz,

[Henry Zebrowski]

you know, it's hard.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Even so, with testicular cancer, it's like one of the most. You can fix it.

[Ed Larson]

So. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then you also get the cancer special. You get to be Tom Green. Tom Green got a lot of mileage out of it. He really did.

[Ed Larson]

And without breast cancer, I wouldn't wear pink in October.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, you never would. Unless of course, when he's dressing as trans Miss Piggy.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, by the end of World War II, the DuPonts had profited the modern equivalent of $13 billion. Which proves that there is still plenty of absolutely obscene profit to be had, even when these people pay their taxes. But out of everything that the duponts did during the war, there was nothing more destructive than what they contributed to the weapons America dropped from the air. And another surprise. The duponts were intimately involved with the Manhattan Project. Now, Los Alamos was the site where the atomic bomb was built and developed. But the military needed a company to process the radioactive fuel used in the Fat man and Little Boy bombs. So General Leslie Groves, director of the Manhattan Project, he approached dupont to see if they were interested. Now, the duponts were hesitant because the conditions for participating in the Manhattan Project were that they couldn't profit off their work, nor could they hold the patents to anything they produced. Profit, labor, later, like, I don't know. Well, in the end, the duponts did it for America, I suppose, and agreed to participate.

[Henry Zebrowski]

As long as it's an atomic bomb, we will work for without profits. Okay. How many people can it kill at once? We'll do that for the love of it. Yeah, yeah. Love of the game. Absolutely.

[Ed Larson]

Of course. How.

[Henry Zebrowski]

How big of a hole? How many Japanese? Yeah, absolutely. Let's do it twice, man.

[Ed Larson]

Dupont respond is responsible for so many deaths, they should just change their to the Vatican.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Got you, Chicago Pope. Suck my dick.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, in short order, dupont built the Oak Ridge plant in Tennessee and the Hanford site in Washington State. These were where we developed and manufactured nuclear materials for the bombs that we dropped on Japan. And since there was no profit to be had, it seems as if DuPont standards for safety were even lower than usual. At Oak Ridge in Tennessee, for example, example, 50 million pounds of uranium chips were simply stored in dumpsters and buried in shallow trenches, while another 12 million cubic feet of radioactive waste was just put in the ground right alongside the uranium.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Is it cool that these mounds are humming? I just want to know. I have this paper mask on. I'll be okay. Right? That's great. Great, great, great. Absolutely. Because it's like a. It's green over here. I'm like, I can't see anymore. Is that a. Okay, that's a common side. I'm. I'm burnout.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Well, that explains the singing Bush.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, he was saying horrible things earlier because it was. We called it the slur bur this

[Ed Larson]

morning, but then we just changed that Bush's name to George.

[Marcus Parks]

As for the Hanford site in Washington state, it is believed that the DuPont company allowed 400 billion gallons of contaminated waste to seep into the earth. All this naturally found its way into the groundwater at both locations. As a result of this incredibly lazy disposal, some workers at Oak ridge had a 900% increased chance of getting leukemia, while workers and locals at Hanford reported elevated instances of thyroid ailments, infrastructure infertility, miscarriages, deformed babies, and, of course, leukemia. And all of that is in addition to the fact that these sites, DuPont sites produced the uranium that was used in the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, both of which were brought to you by dupont. Okay. And all of this is in addition to the fact that these sites produced the uranium that was used in the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and naga. Nagasaki, both of which were brought to you by dupont.

[Ed Larson]

That's right.

[Marcus Parks]

And here comes Jeff Gordon rolling around

[Henry Zebrowski]

the driver once again in that dupont car.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. No, they responsible for the deaths of a million Japanese civilians.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Yeah, a lot. That's. And that's for starters. Yeah, yeah. Actually, it's not even for starters. That's, like, for middles.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Hey, I still. I kind of cut it in half. Yeah. Because we were already in a war.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, the atomic bombs were not the only dupont product dropped on Japan from the air during World War II. The DuPonts were also massive manufacturers of one of the most evil wartime products to ever be used. Napalm.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly. Yeah, it's bad.

[Marcus Parks]

It's really bad. Developed at Harvard in 1942, napalm is a five fire weapon. It's a gelling agent mixed with gasoline or diesel that allows it to spread across large areas and insert itself into every little crevice, all while it burns at temperatures of up to 1200 degrees.

[Henry Zebrowski]

My question is, like, isn't this weapon used for just like, Agent Orange? Wasn't the idea, was it, to clear out foliage? No, no, because I didn't. The idea was your excuse, quote unquote. The excuse, like, with ancient orange, the idea was to, like, kill all the plants.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, that was Agent Orange. No. And napalm was used specifically to destroy cities and kill civilians and just kill wanton violence. Yeah, it really is just used to kill and destroy. I mean, as far as how hot it burns. To put it into perspective, cremations start at about 1400 degrees. And napalm's chemical makeup allows it to sustain these temperatures for a long time while also generating massive amounts of carbon monoxide. That means that napalm suffocates you while it's simultaneously. Simultaneously melts your flesh.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean, a lot of things on YouTube say you begin to your cremation at 1400 degrees. But I've actually been doing a lot about, like, sometimes you can get a better Maillard reaction on the body if you start on a cold slab and then turn up the heat.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, well, the reason why I know that it wasn't just for defoliations, because when they started going up in front of Congress, you know, people were starting to say, like, okay, this napalm is the worst ever. People at dupont and at. And what was the other one Dow Chemical would say, like, no, no, no. The point of napalm is that it removes all the oxygen from the air, so you suffocate before you burn. That's the whole point. It's actually very humane.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just hard because then you have like five congressmen and three of them are going, yeah, yeah, yeah, let me have some. Yeah, yeah, I can spray it on some little girls.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Well, when napalm was invented at Harvard by Louis Pfizer, who interestingly, was the same guy who develop important blood clotting agents and antimalarial drugs.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, you just like clots.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. Napalm was actually made with natural rubber, which was hard to get, but here's where the Duponts come into play.

[Ed Larson]

Lambskin

[Henry Zebrowski]

mint jelly.

[Marcus Parks]

When Dr. Pfizer approached Dupont with the problem, like, hey, I got this great stuff that burns a lot, but I gotta use natural rubber. DuPont, they brought Standard Oil into the game. And all three of these people worked together to develop synthetic Rubber. And thus dupont made it possible for napalm to be cheaply mass produced.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, but also those little bouncy balls in the quarter machines. Oh yeah, you can make those too. Fun.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Dude, you know what's nice to.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I'm my little fidget cube. This is probably made with dupont products. Oh yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But you know, like, there's so much division now. It's just so nice to see these companies getting together and like working on a common idea. Yeah, it's nice. This is the third space that we've been talking about. A place where CEOs can meet and destroy the world comfortably.

[Marcus Parks]

Napalm was primarily used against Japan during World War II. And I really don't think it's a coincidence that napalm was used in the decades after on mostly nonwhite combatants, because it seems like it was seen as too cruel of a weapon to use against those of European destruction descent. And there's proof for this.

[Ed Larson]

Did they just not have it in time?

[Marcus Parks]

No, they had it. The firebombing of Dresden, for example, was magnesium based. That killed about 22,000 people. Firebombing of Tokyo, however, the deadliest air raid in history that primarily used napalm and burned OR suffocated nearly 100,000 civilians. On March 10, 1945, cluster bombs were dispersed over Tokyo with incendiary bomblets filled with 1.2 million gallons of DuPont made napalm. And by the end of the operation, a quarter of Tokyo was simply erased off the Earth by DuPont Products. And also the chemical used to make synthetic rubber in napalm also causes cancer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, well, that's just if you live. Obviously if you live through it.

[Marcus Parks]

No, no, the people who make the napalm, they're also getting cancer in the plants from making the napalm from working with the synthetic rubber.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's great to hear. Honestly, it's nice to see because the only time I make incendiary bomblets is when I'm done getting my rupair made. Napalm. When I go to get that super authentic spicy Thai, man, I'm making some fucking omelets, dude.

[Ed Larson]

It just to think about the numbers here on that 100,000 people, you know, we just kind of like move past that.

[Marcus Parks]

In two days.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, it's in two days. Pearl harbor was 3,000.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

And we have a fucking holiday, you know, 9, 11 was 3,000. This is. We killed 100,000 people in two days in Tokyo.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Where's their holiday?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, where's the. That holiday?

[Marcus Parks]

Well, we don't have it. They have remembrances.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, but do they turn into a barbecue? Do they have fun with it? Do they have a dance with it? Then it's not really a celebration. Japan. Get on it. Be better. Do better.

[Marcus Parks]

Now. After the DuPont spread as much death and destruction as they could across Europe and Asia, they turned their sights south after World War II, using another one of their non munitions companies. This one, however, had nothing to do with chemicals. This one was all about food. See, it's a little known fact, but the duponts had held a controlling interest in the legendarily evil United Fruit Company since the 1920s. This was the company behind South America's so called banana republics. Now those of you steeped in history know that United Fruit is part of the reason why large parts of South America are so still fucked to this day. Basically, United Fruit turned South American countries into single export economies where the only thing that mattered was how many bananas they could produce. I. E. That's where the term banana republic comes from. Workers naturally rose up against the horrible working conditions imposed by United Fruit and DuPont. But because DuPont had far more freedom to be evil down in South America amongst a powerless population. Population. Thousands died as a result. See, where dupont had to be a little sneaky about busting unions in America down south, they showed what they would do if there were no guardrails in countries like say Colombia, they could use government soldiers to simply open fire on workers. This resulted in tragedies like the banana massacre of 1928, in which up to 3,000 protesting workers were murdered and dumped into either mass graves or the ocean. They just open fire on these people?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, man. And like you have to like take, hold these people accountable. And that's why I shop at Tommy Bahama.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's a really good, very responsible thing. And honestly, I'm just glad that no bananas were hurt. No, the banana massacre of 1928. Just because the bananas are innocent. Here they are now.

[Marcus Parks]

By the 1950s, DuPont's United Fruit began working with the United States government directly because the Secretary of State under President, President Dwight D. Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles, as well as his brother CIA director Alan Dulles, both of those guys had done legal work for United Fruit.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Everybody. I don't like everybody being family members.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, it's like the same names keep

[Henry Zebrowski]

popping up over and over and over and over again.

[Marcus Parks]

See, United Fruit specifically had a problem with Guatemala because Guatemala had democratically elected a president who had instituted sweeping reforms that included redistributing unused United Fruit land to families Families and rural farmers.

[Ed Larson]

Hey, man, I voted for Guatemala Harris. Is it?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know. I think it's too confused. I think it's too stupid.

[Marcus Parks]

I think it's too stupid. I think it's too stupid.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't.

[Marcus Parks]

Because you know what? Makes no sense at all in any way whatsoever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I see Guatemala Harris on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Ed Larson]

You know what I mean?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like, I see a small, chubby Filipino drag queen named Guatemala Harris.

[Marcus Parks]

I see that too. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Well, Guatemala, choose one. All right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Figure it out. Let's go. How many further.

[Ed Larson]

Figure that.

[Marcus Parks]

If you ever want me for Celebrity Drag Race. Martha Sparks. I got it locked and loaded.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's ready.

[Marcus Parks]

She's ready to go.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Henry Zabrowski. Literally just browse, like, with the brows capitalized.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Ed Larson. Very good.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, dupont's United Fruit, they didn't like that the Guatemalans had democratically elected a man who had socially policies. And since this all had the flavor of communism, dupont contacted their old friend Allen Dulles in the CIA to see what the United States government could do about all this. And so Dulles went all in. He gave 100 CIA agents and $7 million to DuPont's United Fruit in order to overthrow Guatemala's democratically elected government, all so they could install someone who was willing to do anything that United Fruit and dupont wanted. Interestingly, this CIA backed. This is where the CIA printed its very first assassination booklets.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They were. I actually have a. One of the archive saved versions of their assassination booklets, and they have these. It's very interesting because the idea is to spread it amongst the people, and they'll really be into it. And most of them are all like, okay, yeah, why are you doing this?

[Marcus Parks]

Do not want to die. Yeah, I do not want to kill people.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Please leave us alone. And the CIA was also. Was like, not good at this.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, well, I mean, they did it.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, it was successful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But then it's like, well, they were. Fucked everything up.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, the thing is, the CIA was really good at doing it. It was the follow through that the CIA was really bad at.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It turns out it's super crucial.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, in the end, the assassination booklets actually weren't really needed. The CIA had used a PR firm to spread false propaganda that Guatemala had been taken over by communist Soviet, which it hadn't. But because the PR was effective, the coup was fully supported, and it was achieved with a relatively low body count. And so the CIA installed a military dictatorship, and dupont's United Fruit was Welcomed as corporate aid to the government. This installation, however, led to a civil war in Guatemala just a few years later. That civil war lasted for over three decades. It was the leftist rebels versus the United Fruit and United States backed Guatemalan military death squads. Hundreds, hundreds of thousands of people died. Mostly indigenous Mayans. They were killed before a treaty was finally signed in 1996. And by the way, United Fruit still around since 1984, it's been known by the adorable name of Chiquita Banana.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I like the lady

[Ed Larson]

that's kind of. You know, bananas give you potassium. I shop dole.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I drew my own banana.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Really?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

Yep. In his hammock.

[Henry Zebrowski]

A real small pink and gray.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, after World War II, the DuPonts made five and a half billion off the Korean War where napalm was used to the tune of 80 tons a day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank God. I was actually concerned. I was hoping they make money on the Korean War. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Don't worry. Plenty.

[Ed Larson]

At least we won.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. At least that war. A solid victory. Everybody love that one.

[Marcus Parks]

It's not like the North Korean leader just today named his heir.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's his. It's the girl, right? It's the girl.

[Marcus Parks]

It's his daughter. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Fascinating. It's all, we will do an UN family run. I want to do it so bad one day.

[Marcus Parks]

It's just hard to. It's just hard to know exactly what the is going on there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What happened?

[Ed Larson]

How is North Korea going to have a female leader before us?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Seriously, buddy. No, it's fascinating. It is like we're watching that country. Something's going to change inside of that country. But yeah, it's the first female leader. It's amazing.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, Dupont also began moving their operations overseas, and by 1970, half of their chemical plants were in Latin America, which had already been effectively colonized by the dupont company, United Fruit. Dupont was also heavily invested in Southeast Asia, which meant that they absolutely had a large stake in the Vietnam War.

[Ed Larson]

At least we won that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Because again. And you said, oh, without dupont, we wouldn't have the Holocaust. Yeah, sure. But also without dupont, you know, so we wouldn't have ccr.

[Ed Larson]

Dude.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah, I know Credence, man.

[Marcus Parks]

I know Credence, brother.

[Ed Larson]

At least they're still together.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

John Fogerty. Super fair.

[Marcus Parks]

Good.

[Ed Larson]

You know what?

[Marcus Parks]

I'll trade. I. I'll give up ccr. I'll give. I'll give up Credence. I'll give it up. Yeah. I'll give it up.

[Ed Larson]

Unfortunate, son, I guess.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Have you ever even Seen the rain.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, while Dow. See, while DOW Chemical got most of the bad press for making the napalm for the Vietnam War, dupont absolutely contributed their fair share.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, they were like the Scottie Pippen.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. US forces dropped 350,000 tons of napalm on Vietnam over the course of the war. But napalm ended up hurting the war effort in the end. The infamous photo of the Vietnamese girl running naked the in and screaming was taken after that girl had been burned in a napalm attack. And that photo alone did quite a bit to change American opinion on the Vietnam War.

[Henry Zebrowski]

My uncle was sprayed with Agent Orange, and that's the reason why they were all my blood. My cousins were mentally handicapped.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't know if agent. I don't know who made Agent Orange. I think that was Dow.

[Ed Larson]

Is that Dow?

[Marcus Parks]

I'm pretty sure that was Dow that made Agent Orange.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, he got sprayed real bad with it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Dow is also pretty bad.

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it's bad.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm saying it's all bad over there. Vietnam sand sounded like it was really complicated.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Actually, it was quite simple. But out of all the sins of the dupont family and we skipped over hundreds, their worst might be in the forever chemicals that they have knowingly and callously introduced into the bodies of each and every person listening right now. And the most insidious of those first forever chemicals was introduced by the seemingly innocuous product known as Teflon. Now, we all know what Teflon is. Keeps shit from sticking to pans. But Teflon is also used in the manufacture of carpets, shampoos, smartphones, paint, furniture adhesives, food packaging, cosmetics, and much, much more. It is resistant to heat, oil, grease, and water and has therefore become an intelligent, integral part of the modern world.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's almost like it doesn't exist.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it's everywhere.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what I mean? We, like, in a way where it's just like. It's so cute and it's so harmless and it doesn't do anything and nothing touches it. It's just. It's innocent and it's sweet.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. No, it's actually one of the worst things to ever be introduced into the world.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. It's because there's something about a chemical that's made that no one can touch it. You know what I mean? Like, it's like this thing where it's. The one thing it does is deny all physical engagement with the world.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And it turns out that the thing that is extremely resistant to water is also really Harmful to bodies that are made primarily of water.

[Henry Zebrowski]

70% water.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah. You know, but, you know, this is all coming from the people who helped us make bullets.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, you want to stick a dynamite

[Marcus Parks]

brought to you by the company that brought you Nagasaki?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah. They're all like, oh, sorry, we took a long time. Time to kill you. We could do it once. You want to do it at once? Oh, we'll kill everybody immediately.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, Teflon is made with a chemical that is commonly known as C8. C8 falls under the umbrella of forever chemicals, meaning that it never leaves your body and it causes adverse health effects like cancer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like we're adopting it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it's like it's part of us. C8 is what you call bio persistent, meaning that it will not and cannot be removed from your blood. It remains in your body even after you die. That's so romantic and it's actually so horrible in every way that it is referred to by chemists as the devil's piss.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I should know because I drink piss.

[Marcus Parks]

One of the many, many ways in which C8 gets into our bloodstream. Remember how many things I said that is that Teflon is in lipstick shampoo. But one of the many ways that it gets into our bloodstream is like, say you have a pan coated with Teflon and you use it for a long time. After a while, bits of Teflon start to flake off into your food. You therefore ingest C8, which significantly increases cancer risk, amongst other health problems. I mean, imagine how many restaurants you go to little bits of Teflon.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Flake off, you know, in your own home, everywhere. It's. That's how it gets into everything and everyone.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, now I just straight up eat credit cards. Like, now I just. I eat a credit card. It's just like, I don't really care. I honestly to kind of feel they've been talking about the loneliness epidemic. And it's nice to have something that's with you always.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

And like forever chemicals are a great investment because they last forever.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it's true. Now you're thinking like a businessman.

[Henry Zebrowski]

See, that's all it takes. You just got a couple of shares.

[Ed Larson]

I hate sharing.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, the Dupont began manufacturing Teflon sometime in the late 30s or early 40s, and they did so in conjunction with another American chemical giant, 3M. Both companies, of course, said when they began using CH that it was an inert substance that had no adverse health effects.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like it doesn't exist.

[Marcus Parks]

No, that was a guess. Or let's say a hope.

[Ed Larson]

Oh.

[Marcus Parks]

Because they hadn't actually done any studies on C8's effects when they introduced it into the public.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Can I ask why you're an enemy of hope.

[Marcus Parks]

I'll be an enemy of plenty. Yeah, I'm an enemy of hope.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Why are you an enemy of hope, Cousin hope? See what happens with these liberals. You can't engage with them on anything. They're monsters, they're mean. Now please just die.

[Marcus Parks]

All right. Eventually. Well, 3M finally got around to doing some testing in the early 50s and what they found was immediately disturbing. They began testing C8 on rats and found that not only did all of the fetuses and the pregnant rats. Rats die, but all of the rats developed fatal tumors.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, okay. So we stopped using it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, honestly, the mice can't use it. Obviously. It's a mice bound problem. They'll never get the uses of Teflon. Oh, what a great episode.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, they did. They look. Okay, well, causes tumors in rats. Let's try it on dogs and monkeys.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Ten years later, later, by the 1960s, tried on me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I saw what it did to the m. I'm just a whole hound dog. Don't do it to me. Let's see if we can even. I bet you we can't even get you wet. Try to spray it with a hose. The water just beads all over it.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. There's non wetting dog.

[Marcus Parks]

Nope. All the dogs and all the monkeys developed huge tumors and died.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh.

[Marcus Parks]

In fact, they found that the monkeys died with the lowest doses of C8 out of all the animals tested. Which tells you it's probably really bad for humans too.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, they said it's one part to 1 billion. So a drop in a swimming pool. The Olympic swimming pool.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And that's enough to you up?

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And eventually 3M learned that C8 actually has adverse effects on DNA itself. It is changing our DNA. And so when 3M learned how toxic C8 really was, they went to Dupont and told them that. Well, yeah, we're not saying you got to remove C8 from all your products. We're just saying you probably shouldn't dump anything containing C8 into local water supplies. Just try that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just don't do that.

[Marcus Parks]

Just don't do that. Not saying you got to take it out of everything. Just saying dispose of of it properly. Dupont, of course, said you. And continue dumping it wherever they want it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And this is where I like literally watching that documentary it's so hard because every serial killer documentary I watch, which I love, you know, I love all the. Like, her panties were found stuffed inside her cavity. Like, I. I like that. Right. That provides, like, almost a sense of comfort to me.

[Marcus Parks]

So your asmr.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. But then, like, watching the poor people on this, Honestly, this wonderful documentary, just, like, a guy with, like, eyes just going. You know, I just. Still happy to be alive.

[Ed Larson]

You still

[Henry Zebrowski]

could possibly. It's just nice to see Rainbow and you just sitting there just like, Jesus Christ.

[Marcus Parks]

Sad. The devil we know.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Bucky's all right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's a. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's doing great.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm just saying, honestly, like, I was not that guy. I'm talking. It's just. Everybody's jacked up.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. No, but. Yeah, but he's sitting there like. Yes. And when they had to put the balloon into my forehead to make my head, it was the worst thing I've ever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is, like, the most upsetting thing I've ever watched.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

They had to put a balloon in his forehead to stretch his skin so they could take the skin from his forehead and give him a second nostril, because he was born with only one nostril.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's bad.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And that's all due to the C8 exposure suffered by his mother when she was pregnant with Bucky.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Whose coworker. The same thing happened to her and her child.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Now, it was noticed, starting way back in the 1970s, that people who lived near DuPont C8 plants were developing cancer at rates 20 to 30% higher than the rest of the population. And women who worked in those plants were giving birth to children with incredible physical deformities. Dupont, however, kept using it in countless products, and they themselves knew that C8 had spread everywhere. See, Dupont had done their own research

[Henry Zebrowski]

because they realized if we make everybody deformed, that's the new base.

[Marcus Parks]

That's the baseline. Yeah. Well, Dupont had done their own research on C8 in 1960, but they discovered when they wanted to compare blood contaminated with C8 to a clean sample, that no clean sample is existed in anyone. They searched everywhere for a clean sample, but they eventually had to use preserved blood from army servicemen taken before 1950 to find blood that did not contain any C8. This was in 1960. And today it is estimated that C8 is in the blood of 99% of Americans, if not 99% of the world.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Congratulations, Dupont.

[Ed Larson]

You did it.

[Marcus Parks]

Total market coverage.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Really good work, guys. There's some. Oh, wow.

[Marcus Parks]

But to the credit of 3M, they did voluntarily remove C8 from their products. And, you know, in the year 2000. It took them a while, but they did take it out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean, it's hard. It's hard. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

They realized it was bad and they stopped making it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Then they phased it out completely by 2002. DuPont, meanwhile, increased production and they built a new C8 plant in Fayetteville, North Carolina, around the same time. Time that 3M was pulling C8 out of all their products.

[Ed Larson]

That's right. So they started making it themselves just so they can keep using it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. Now, the effects of C8 weren't known for a long time because DuPont usually built its most dangerous chemical factories in poor southern towns where the people become depended upon and even grateful for the deadly jobs that dupont provides. You have people that will defend dupont until the day they die. Because dupont gave him a paycheck.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Because they gave them the fucking one bedroom house that their ten families. Family members live in.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Which also just shows what the US government could do, helping people get homes and helping people like what that would, what that could do, versus letting it be up to the corporations to do it to then poison all of us.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Dupont also spent decades successfully lobbying the media to prevent reporting on the horrors of C8. Dupont actually has a long and successful history of influencing not just the media, but the government as well, mostly to get policies legislated in their favor. There have actually been several dupont loyalists appointed to the Environmental Protection Agency over the years. And those men have been instrumental in shutting down investigations into C8. And just like the oil companies have done with climate change, DuPont has their own team of scientists who are paid to create reports that C8 poses no risk. We can all use Teflon as much as we want without worrying. Eat it with a spoon, put it on a sandwich. Everyone loves Teflon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly, I've been trying to put it on a sandwich. It just won't stick. That's why it's a fun game for the kids straight from the vat.

[Marcus Parks]

But by the mid-2000s, enough horror stories about C8 were making the rounds that a number of lawyers put together a class action lawsuit against Dupont. During the discovery process, it was found that Dupont had known about the dangers of C8 since the 1960s and had done nothing. In fact, they'd done worse than nothing. They had provably doubled down on production and had increased their PR budget to keep C8 stories out of the media. It was also found that DuPont have been dumping £50,000 of C8 into the Ohio river every year for decades.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Do you know how many people I know in Cincinnati that have had cancer?

[Marcus Parks]

A lot.

[Ed Larson]

It's fucked up insane how much they're really messing with everybody.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That whole area of the world right now with like northern Pennsylvania, Jersey, that whole thing has become a cesspool of environmental, massive environmental fuck ups. Remember that train collapsed with a fucking waste on it that went into the. This is like that. It happens again and again and again. And we're all just like, yeah, well, hopefully they don't poison too many of the people. Like, we're just kind of hoping it doesn't fully kill everybody.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Now, it was obvious that dupont was going to lose this class action lawsuit if it went to trial. That's how incredibly guilty they were. Do you know how incredibly guilty a corporation has to be to lose a class action lawsuit? So they offered a $347 million settlement instead.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, for everybody that works.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, everybody gets $1. Everybody that's ever tasted C8. It's one singular dollar.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, in a selfless move, the plaintiffs decided to use that money to put together a long term scientific study to look into the effects of C8 and prove that it caused health problems. After this seven year study was through, C8 in drinking water was linked to kidney cancer, testicular cancer, thyroid disease, fatal preeclampsia, high cholesterol and ulcerative colitis, which leads to colon cancer. Colon cancer, by the way, is killing our generation en masse as we speak. Killed James Vanderbeek yesterday. It is killing us at an incredible rate. I'm going say right now we got to start a new campaign to screen millennials and Generation Xers for colon cancer. I'm going to call it I don't want your death.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly, guys, preemptively get your buttholes checked. You're going to want to eat more fiber. You're going to want to drink more water. These are like.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, I don't know about drinking more water because that's made. This whole thing has made me fucking paranoid about drinking tap water because we don't know how, because so much. Well, even filtered filter. Don't take care of C8. Don't take care.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Too late, buddy.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Ed Larson]

But you know, you get your. You can drink out of a plastic

[Henry Zebrowski]

bottle and that'll be fine without a plastic. Have you done this recently? You know, you know what I've liked recently?

[Marcus Parks]

I've had a hard week, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Was I open up A gallon Ziploc bag. I fill water I fill from tap into the gallon Ziploc bag bag, and I just leave it in the car for a couple hours and then let the natural heat of the sun.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bake it. Yeah, yeah. So it really gets filled with plastic.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, Dupont promised to phase out C8 in 2015, but their shenanigans were not over. Instead of using C8 for Teflon and other products because we can't live without Teflon.

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Marcus Parks]

They are now using a chemical compound that they seriously called Gen X. No independent studies have been done on Gen X, but dupont's internal studies on rats have shown, you guessed it, tumors and death. Just like with C8. Our water and our bodies are now also full of Gen X in addition to C8 and a ton of other forever chemicals besides. Now, that's admittedly a lot of heavy shit, and I really wish we could have ended this exploration to the evils of the duponts on a higher note.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The only way to end it on a high note is. And then every member of the dupont family was then subsequently lined up, shot in the head, and their money was disseminated amongst the entire world.

[Ed Larson]

They stopped hiring the KKK and the Pinkertons and everything is fine.

[Marcus Parks]

But I suppose all I can say is that these are the people in charge of our lives and have been for some time. And if the Epstein files tell you anything, it's that these people are betting on collapse and misery more than they ever have.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They are betting on collapse to make money on the collapse.

[Marcus Parks]

They are actively pushing for it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They want to. To kill us just to make the money for a world in which there's none of us to work for them.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. But whether or not we let them push us over the cliff is up to us. Something needs to be done to remove these people from their positions of power, because it is quite obvious that they are more than willing to die right alongside the rest of us if it means that they can make profit right up to the point where their fucking heart stops. It has become existential and we need a fucking plan. But until that plan can be formulated and implemented, join us next week as we take a little break from the duponts to hear an episode led by our very own Ed Larson. While these boys are doing two shows up in Alaska.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, so we're gonna do a little change in the schedule because we will be leaving town early next week to go to the fair state of Alaska. Please join us last podcast on the left.com you can buy tickets for that that are still available for Fairbanks. I think we'll be there tomorrow when this episode comes out for everyone. We'll be there. So go buy tickets there if you would. But then we're coming back with the Fox Catcher Killer.

[Marcus Parks]

Then the week after that. Join us for the finale of our Dupont series where we're going to see what happens when one of these Duponts are left to spin their wheels and create their own fantasy world which results in. What else but murder?

[Ed Larson]

Some pure old fashioned murder.

[Marcus Parks]

Finally, someone's just going to. One guy's just going to shoot another guy. That's it. It's not going to be on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Simple.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, Just real simple. One on one. Violence.

[Ed Larson]

Idiot.

[Marcus Parks]

Shooting a wrestler.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We literally did this series because of how angry we are. Like, this is. This was not supposed to be this way. I already see several people sending emails. Oh, this is a lot of horror story. There's a lot of historical context, but it's one really. Just because we're furious and we are. We want to talk about these things, even amongst ourselves.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that's why we do this show. Because we are here to talk about things that interest us in this world. And I think it's important to know.

[Marcus Parks]

It is. It's very important to know.

[Ed Larson]

I think this episode had the most death.

[Marcus Parks]

You know, I. I think it might have. Out of every episode we've ever done, this might be the most death. Yeah, I think you're right. Of every single episode.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But also remember, though, we have a lot of true crime coming down the pipe. Yeah. So I want you to understand that we have a lot of true crime coming. And then right after my true crime series, I'm going to say it. I'm doing a true crime series.

[Marcus Parks]

You are.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We then are going to introduce another head on the Mount Rushmore of evil, which I think you might be very, very surprised what it is. So we're here. We're in it. We're locked in for the rest of your life. Hail Satan. I'll see you when I'm dead.

[Ed Larson]

By the way, I looked it up just to see who, like, because you mentioned Bill Clinton. I wanted to see who 3M and all of them were donating to now, who Dupont was donating to. Now. Their number one donation is to a place called the Committed to America pack. And their only person that they give money to is Mike Pence. And then the second person that they gave the most amount of money to was Kamala Harris. Yeah. So that's what we got going On.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They're still playing both sides.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. No, they are absolutely playing both sides. And the fucking establishment of both parties are corrupt and fucking evil. Just one of them is a little more upfront about it. The whole system needs to be wiped away and we need to change. Massive, massive change.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And my friend Charlotte introduced me to an a pont member of the family that was deeply involved in a full anti Jewish cult run by Lyndon Larouche. This goes. There's a lot here. Yeah, there's a lot here.

[Marcus Parks]

There's a lot. So there is a lot.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Happy hunting. Patron.com podcast on the left to get episodes ad free. You can also go and see Last Stream on the left live 6pm PST every Tuesday. Also now if you join our $25 tier, you can submit videos for us to play for all of our Patreon subscribers on our new show Last Stream on the Left after hours.

[Marcus Parks]

That's right.

[Ed Larson]

Oh yeah, the ones where we show our titties.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You guys remember that. And you when you say you see that at night. Silk stockings.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, silk stockings.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Nylon stockings.

[Marcus Parks]

Gilbert. Yeah, Gilbert Gotrid up all Night is where when you would have to alternate between get masturbating to bikini girls and then you'd have to listen to Gilbert Godfrey talk for a little while.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I tell you, that's how you learn how to do it.

[Ed Larson]

That's how you get re going to do it again.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm just glad we ripped open this topic like pair of thin pantyhose over the struggling butt of a woman stuck in a well. Stuck in a well.

[Marcus Parks]

Stuck in a well. Well.

[Ed Larson]

Come see us on tour. February 28th, Austin, Texas. March 13th, Indianapolis. April 25th, Cincinnati. May 29th, Pittsburgh. Wow, we're really doing the DuPont Tour.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That should be our next tour. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. The DuPont Cancer Tour.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

June 27th, Grand Rapids, Michigan. July 17th, Tulsa, Oklahoma. July 18th, Oklahoma City. Come see us live on the road. This is fun, dude.

[Marcus Parks]

That's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it we'll see you out in the ice. Hail Satan.

[Marcus Parks]

Hell, ging. Get your colon checked.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Get your checked.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. And hail Bucky Bailey.

[Marcus Parks]

Hell, Bucky.

[Ed Larson]

I like Bucky.

[Marcus Parks]

I like Bucky a lot.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Who's Bucky Bailey?

[Marcus Parks]

He's a guy in the documentary.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah. He is a sweet man. He is

[Marcus Parks]

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