Episode 657: The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs Part II - 3 Guys, 1 Hammer

Summary

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Last Podcast On The Left

Episode 657: The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs Part II – 3 Guys, 1 Hammer
Release Date: March 20, 2026
Hosts: Henry Zebrowski, Marcus Parks, Ed Larson

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Overview

This episode delves into the horrifying true crime case of the Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs—two Ukrainian teenagers responsible for a string of brutal hammer murders in 2007. Returning for Part II, the LPOTL team provides a chilling, deeply researched, and irreverently humorous breakdown of the case’s most infamous crimes, their escalation, the notorious "3 Guys, 1 Hammer" video, police investigation failures, and the enduring legacy and myths surrounding the killers, all while delivering their signature dark banter.

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Key Discussion Points

The Maniacs and Their Methods

• Obsession with Hammers: Early discussion humorously covers types of hammers and murder weapon preferences.
  Henry: “Unfortunately, I like an old-fashioned… ball peen hammer. Just normal out of an old…” (02:21) Henry: “The proper way to hit somebody multiple times with the hammer is on the side because then it doesn’t get stuck and then you don’t have to jimmy it out.” (04:40)
• Victim Profile & Modus Operandi:
  • Victims were often vulnerable, alone, picked off paths, or knocked from bikes, then bludgeoned with hammers or stabbed.
  • The maniacs often filmed their crimes, starting with animal torture before escalating to human victims. Henry: “Tricked to the side of the road, surprised from behind, and then beaten with hammers until their faces were unrecognizable.” (05:06)

The "3 Guys, 1 Hammer" Video

• Recording the Murder of Sergey Yatsenko:
  • The podcast breaks down the infamous snuff video in detail, recounting how Yatsenko—already a survivor of multiple misfortunes—became a target due to his apparent vulnerability.
  • Henry: “No one was supposed to see this footage outside of the system and the boys. It would play in the trial…” (07:05)
  • The video became notorious online, but the full, 30-minute director’s cut was far more graphic than the circulated clip.
• Courtroom Reactions:
  • Ambulances were stationed outside the courtroom; viewers reportedly fainted or vomited.
    Henry: "Ambulances were actually parked outside while this footage was shown because so many people… were fainting and vomiting after seeing it." (07:59)
• Chilling Details (08:59–13:52):
  • Detailed, staged pre-planning; cold joking about who to attack; callous disregard for the victim.
  • The full attack: beating, gouging out eyes with a screwdriver, taunting the dying man, and finally posing for photos.
  • Last words: Igor (as dramatized): "What a fucking day for you, huh?" (13:47)
• Impact on Hosts:
  • Personal reflections on having seen the video, and their disturbed reactions.
  • Marcus: “I remember watching it… in the closet at the creek…” (14:53)

Escalation and Capture

• Further Murders:
  • The pair continued killing—becoming brazen, killing in daylight and in front of witnesses.
  • Crimes grew in savagery, including the murder of a pregnant woman whose fetus was also killed.
    Henry: “…they removed the fetus from her belly and smashed that with hammers as well.” (18:10)
• Police & Public Response:
  • Initial police denial that serial killers existed in Ukraine; fear gripped citizens; authorities failed to link the murders quickly.
  • Eventually, clues and eyewitnesses (including children) aided the investigation.
• Their Downfall:
  • Caught after trying to sell a victim’s modern cellphone for $20; the SIM card led police straight to them.
  • Bungled efforts to clean up evidence; police found bloodstained clothes, stolen items in pipes, and incriminating digital files.
  • Marcus: “They were arrested as they walked out the door. Done.” (24:30)

Motives, Psychology, and Trial

• Confessions and Defense:
  • Igor was forthcoming and proud; Victor played down involvement, saying he did it for money.
  • Igor told investigators: "What do you feel when you cut a sausage?" (31:09)
  • The defense argued insanity and coerced confessions; parents denied their sons’ guilt, some suggesting a conspiracy or CGI fakery.
• Ideology:
  • The maniacs clung to a pseudo-Nazi, neo-pagan mythology (Himmler’s Silmarillion, Poetic Edda) to justify their crimes, but the hosts repeatedly describe this as hollow, teenage bravado.
  • Henry: “All of this to say they were teenage morons making up to sound cool.” (35:39)
• Verdicts:
  • Igor and Victor: Life sentences, still imprisoned.
  • Alexander (third member, not involved in murders): 9 years for robbery.
  • The judge: "Do you think the blind are judging you? We have already seen enough of you from the front and the back and the profile." (37:14)

Legacy and Myths

• Internet Infamy:
  • The leaked court footage (3 Guys, 1 Hammer) turned the killers into viral figures, spawning copycats (such as the “Academy Maniacs” in Russia) and macabre fascination in online communities.
• Copycat Crimes:
  • Several Russian teens emulated their methods after seeing the video, forming bands with names like “Evil Dwarves.”
  • Henry: “They mimicked the Hammer Maniac’s attacks for several more weeks before they were caught… In total, six people would be murdered, nine injured.” (40:07)
• Political Weaponization:
  • Vladimir Putin later cited the maniacs as "proof" of rampant Nazi violence in justifying invasion of Ukraine.
  • Propaganda used video stills and spun rumors of their release—none of which are substantiated.
• Snuff Film Market Theories:
  • Explores the widespread but unproven idea that the maniacs were creating content for a snuff market.
  • The reality: there is no credible evidence of a snuff "industry" linked to these crimes.
• Gore Sites and Internet Extremes:
  • Discussion of platforms like Ogrish and LiveLeak, the appetite for real violence online, the lack of context in what’s shown, and the role of police or court leaks in their dissemination.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Maniacs’ Amateurism
  Henry: “These fuckers, you gotta remember, they don’t build lasting things though. They don’t.” (58:59)
• On the Ukraine/Russia Context
  Henry, recounting Putin’s rationale: “…declaring his intention to denazify Ukraine… he was referring almost directly to the Hammer Maniacs. Stills from Three Guys One Hammer would be used as examples of young Nazis filling the streets of Ukraine.” (44:05)
• On Snuff Films
  Marcus: “If snuff films existed, we would know about them because somebody would say, ‘I have a snuff film.’” (51:50)

Panel Banter

• On hammer preferences
  Henry: “I like an old-fashioned. Just fucking ball peen hammer… if you really want to kill somebody. The old way.” (02:21)
• On court process in Ukraine
  Marcus: “They were held in a cage in court like a traveling oddity. But we know that’s how they do it in Eastern Europe.” (31:58)
• On propaganda and public myth
  Ed: “Now the Ukrainians. The one thing I do know about the Ukrainian government is they were incredibly corrupt and incredibly violent up until Zelinsky.” (45:18)
• On analogies for the killers
  Marcus: “Igor and Victor, that’s Larry and Moe and Alexander is like curly?” (26:02)

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Important Timestamps

• The Hammer Discussion: 02:05–05:06 — The hosts debate hammer types and the mechanics of murder.
• The Start of the Maniacs’ Killing Spree: 05:06–06:28 — How the spree began; early patterns.
• “3 Guys, 1 Hammer” Breakdown: 08:49–13:52 — In-depth walk-through of the infamous video.
• Victim Profile, The Pregnant Woman: 17:12–18:28 — Details about the escalation of violence.
• The Maniacs’ Arrest and Evidence: 24:30–28:34 — Capture, bungled coverup, and damning evidence.
• The Trial and Prison: 31:59–37:34 — Confessions, court spectacle, and sentences.
• Legacy: Copycats and Putin’s Propaganda: 38:52–46:42 — Copycat crimes and political misuse.
• Snuff Film, Gore Culture Discussion: 48:51–55:47 — Debunking the snuff market, internet gore sites, and the modern appetite for real violence.

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The Hosts’ Synthesis & Closing Thoughts

• The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs remain an infamous—if deeply disturbing—case, their crimes invoked by reactionary propagandists and inspiring twisted adulation online.
• Despite the darkness, the hosts emphasize that evil rarely builds anything lasting (as with these murderers’ hollow “legacy”), and the city of Dnipro, despite scars and ongoing real violence from war, endures.
• Memorable parting thought:
  Henry: “Why use a hammer to crush your person? Use a hammer to build a house for an old lady. Use a screwdriver to calm down your podcast hosts...” (58:07)

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Further Reading & References

• To learn more: Search the episode in your podcast player; consider researching “Dnipro Hammer Maniacs,” “Three Guys, One Hammer,” and the related criminal/political context in Ukraine.
• For more episodes and resources, visit lastpodcastnetwork.com

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Transcript

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

There's no place to escape to.

[Ed Larson]

This is the last on the left.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's when the cannibalism started.

[Ed Larson]

What was that?

[Marcus Parks]

So, boys, I. E. Are you ready

[Henry Zebrowski]

to come back to my world? I'm here.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm in it.

[Ed Larson]

So you. This is your world?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

So you're giving up aliens for hammer maniacs?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I have found a purpose.

[Marcus Parks]

He's always been pretty enthusiastic about brutal murder.

[Ed Larson]

So no satanism anymore? No straight hammer murders. Hammer murders.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's all I like.

[Ed Larson]

Now, now, how do you feel about the movie? You were never really there. The Joaquin Phoenix, Lynn Ramsey Taxi driver. Hammer movie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Extremely good movie.

[Ed Larson]

It's phenomenal film.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Great hammer movie.

[Ed Larson]

Great hair. You know, there aren't enough hammer movies.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There are not also, you know, I'd also say skill list. Kill this because it's got a great hammer scene.

[Ed Larson]

A lot of hammer scene. And kill it.

[Marcus Parks]

Do you have a preference of hammer clob, mallet ball peen?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Unfortunately, I like an old fashioned. Just fucking ball peeing hammer. Yeah, just normal out of an old fucking. Like that's the best thing if you really want to kill somebody. The old way.

[Ed Larson]

Hammers in, dude.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I honestly, I just type with my left hand. I swing my hammer back and forth to just get myself in the zone. But we're here. Welcome to last podcast. On the left, I'm still your narrator and I'm sorry, Henry Zabrowski. And to my right, I have comedic genius, Marcus Parks. What does that mean?

[Marcus Parks]

It's gibberish. Oh,

[Henry Zebrowski]

perfect. And then we have race trader Ed Larson. Yeah, very good. Very, very good. How do you, how do you feel being the Ukrainian representation on the show?

[Ed Larson]

You know, it's weird how little I know about my people.

[Marcus Parks]

It's incredible. I had no idea that you had Ukrainian blood until this episode.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Look at his brow structure. Yeah. Look at his craziness.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, no, no, I see it.

[Ed Larson]

25 Polish. 25 Russia. Russia. 50 Ukraine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm, I'm in there.

[Marcus Parks]

Dude, I always thought that was a Polish head. No, it's a Ukrainian head.

[Ed Larson]

It's a little Polish.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. They would avoided you because I tell you what, it would be really hard to smash your head open with hammers.

[Ed Larson]

That's what I'm saying. I'm surprised like they did because Ukrainians, like historically could take a punch, you

[Henry Zebrowski]

know, because that's why they went after women and children.

[Ed Larson]

Ah, that's right. I forget. And I recently bought a tack hammer to answer your question.

[Marcus Parks]

Very nice.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I had, I went to put up a pennant and I had a tack and the wall was too hard and I was like, I know what I'm gonna do. I went to the fucking lumber store and I got a tack hammer and I went home and I hit the tack.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're an old man. You're an old fucking man. We spent our Saturday eating stew and watching cruisin. I'll save that for our other show.

[Ed Larson]

You know how old I am by pennants?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What's your favorite hammer?

[Marcus Parks]

I'm good old fashioned claw. I love a claw, but I also love a good sledgehammer.

[Ed Larson]

And this is a claw.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, that's a claw hammer right there.

[Ed Larson]

Because of the back.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. It's because, you know, there's a lot of different options with a claw hammer with ball peen. With all this. You got one option with a claw hammer. You can bludgeon, you can rip, you can tear. There's a lot of stuff you can do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And unfortunately, our maniacs know, unfortunately, the proper way to hit somebody multiple times with the hammer is on the side because then it doesn't get stuck and then you don't have to jimmy it out.

[Ed Larson]

Interesting.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That is what they discovered using trial and error. Oh, that's true.

[Ed Larson]

That is wild.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

What kind of hammer did they use?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Good old fashioned. That one right there. Claw hammer.

[Ed Larson]

Claw hammer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah. Wrapped up in plastic. But let's get into it.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

When we last left our maniacs, When we last left our maniacs, they were revving up when they should have been given up. Eight victims in 12 days, each killed in the same horrific Way tricked to the side of the road, surprised from behind, and then beaten with hammers until their faces were unrecognizable. This wave of mayhem took over Dinopropetrovsk, leaving its citizens terrified, looking over their shoulder at every urine. The police investigation just couldn't get started. No one wanted to link the crimes together because that would make it too serious. Serial killers do not exist in Soviet influenced Ukraine. The streets became empty, cafes and movie theaters abandoned. The maniacs stalked a dnipro freely and were killing like they never cared before you both.

[Ed Larson]

Yo, that's great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's beautiful.

[Marcus Parks]

It was good.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Up until this point.

[Marcus Parks]

The boys, they're maniacs. Maniacs for sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's about a lonely woman.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Up until this point, the boys had mostly filmed. They mostly filmed animal torture and mutilation. It is believed they filmed some of their robberies as well. But their big hit would be a change of subject matter for their film oeuvre. This would be the first time they recorded a murder of a human being. And they were very excited.

[Marcus Parks]

Who wouldn't be?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Now the long form video that the world would come to know was three guys, one hammer, as seen in an eight minute cut on the Internet. The director's cut, which played in court. The original video was over 30 minutes long and featured our maniacs chuckling and nervous like virgins before a high school dance.

[Marcus Parks]

You go talk to her.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Literally the same energy. Yeah, same energy. It's wild to see how young they are, acting like they're about to do something fun together like go on a jet ski or see last podcast on the left live in Pittsburgh, May 29 of the Carnegie.

[Ed Larson]

That's right, man. If you bring a hammer, you get a free brighter side sticker.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I promise you. I promise you. You got to leave the hammers in a basket, but initial them, you'll get them. No one was supposed to see this footage outside of the system and the boys. It would play in the trial alongside the recording of a kitten. Of the kitten crucifixion, if you guys remember.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, the kitten crucifixion rather than a kitten crucifixion.

[Ed Larson]

The thing about the kitten crucifixion is like, you would think it'd be cuter, you know, but it really, it just wasn't real. Crucifixion.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I wish I had Pontius Puglet, you know, with a little Roman, like little Romans, like little thing on there. Crucify him.

[Marcus Parks]

It's better for the, you know, the pun. But if we're Getting judgy dogs. It's going to be a corgi. You should have a corgi.

[Henry Zebrowski]

As the judge punches Piglet. Save it, save it. This is our children's book, you know. Ambulances were actually parked outside of the court while this footage was shown because so many people, this is true, were feigning and vomiting after seeing it. Three guys, one hammer, as would be named by the uploader, was filmed on July 12, 2007 and it centers on the murder of 48 year old Sergey Yatsenko. Now we're going to go into the detail of this contents verbally, but I'm not going to show any of the video. And honestly, it's hard because it's not really just because of taste. It's because apparently Chris Dalia bought the rights to show young ladies on Snapchat where things are never deleted. Remember? Now I'm going to. We are going to go by. We're doing this beat for beat.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So we have, here we have our cast, Marcus Parks. He will be playing Igor Suprunyuk and Victor Sayenko will be played by Ed Larson.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So you're going to read the lines, I'm going to read the stage directions. We're going to go from. We're going to go through the entire video so that you don't have to watch it. In the first part of the video, Igor and Victor planned what they will do to their victim. It's the first 20 minutes of the 30 minute video. They had parked the Daewoo on the side of the road, waiting for the right victim. Victor balances the phone on top of the car to get a wide shot of the street. Igor says, we will stop a car

[Marcus Parks]

that comes by and if it's a big strong guy that comes out, we tell him no problem, as in move on. But if a little one comes up, we tell him welcome with this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then he pulls the yellow hammer out of a plastic shopping bag. Igor plays it up for the camera. He hid the camera behind his back and then exclaimed, I will put on the teeth. He did. He's like Ren. At one point, after they've been waiting for a few minutes, Victor says, at

[Ed Larson]

this rate, we'll be waiting all week.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They also talk about hoping the person has a cell phone, but not one so nice that they won't be able to sell it quickly. Victor jokes about how difficult doing the killing while filming with one hand is going to be. They decide that if it's a one man and one woman who passed by first they'll do it. But if it's two men, they'll have to see how they look. Igor yawns and struts around, bored. While they are waiting. They also talk about the bloodstains the other victims left on their daewoo. Igor says they are like pigs staining the car with their blood. Eventually, Sergey Yatsenko pedals towards the maniacs. This man is a survivor. He had already escaped as his van actually crashed in a lake. And he escaped from the lake on his own. He barely survived. And then he just got out of remission from throat cancer. He's still on his. Had his surgery bandages on from the cancer surgery.

[Ed Larson]

So he got cancer surgery, got into his car to drive home.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bike. No, no, no. Before that. The lake was before that. Lake was before that.

[Ed Larson]

I thought this was like just the worst possible.

[Marcus Parks]

I got. I get into the lake, then I have throat cancer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I find out they cut it out. I go home on bike.

[Marcus Parks]

And then to mania, kill me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, that's what happens in Russia. Hospice is 12 hours long.

[Marcus Parks]

So Igor says someone on the bicycle is coming.

[Henry Zebrowski]

When Victor asks what the guy looks like, Igor responds, he's normal. As they wait for Sergey to approach,

[Ed Larson]

Viktor jokes that it'll take at least an hour and a half to get here.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Come on. Then right before the attack, Igor says,

[Marcus Parks]

if he's strong, help me kill him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

To which Victor responds, of course, of course. And finally Viktor exclaims in excitement, what

[Ed Larson]

a video we will capture. Not just pictures.

[Marcus Parks]

We will be like Eisenstein or Tarkovsky.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Cinema. Cinema. We were just watching Tarkovsky. And it's funny just how serious just the production still is. Like just the logo.

[Ed Larson]

They throw a lot of pipes in.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That they do now. Sergey rides past Igor, swings the hammer still in the yellow plastic bag and knocks him off his bike. The boys, giddy as school girls, run over to the injured man, now on the ground, groaning. Then Igor hits him in the head with the hammer. Victor runs over with the phone camera in hand, at Igor's urging as he

[Marcus Parks]

says, get the shot, get the shot.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Still laughing, they drag Sergei off the road and into the woods. They smack him with a hammer again, and Sergei seems to be trying to yell or speak, but addition to being bludgeoned in the face and head, his voice hadn't recovered from his recent throat surgery. Igor tells Victor, quiet, quiet. As he struggles not to laugh.

[Marcus Parks]

Listen to his gurgling.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They then bring the camera closer to the struggling Sergei as they hold for silence for a full minute as his muted groans Fill the speakers. They laugh in his face as he mutely cries out. Then Viktor uses a screwdriver to remove Sergei's eyeballs until we see the pink brain matter that is exposed to the air. He stabs Sergei over and over again in the belly with the same screwdriver. Igor says, vitya, we must take a

[Marcus Parks]

picture with him as a memory.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Vidya is a cute little nickname for Viktor. He then says, this time was awesome.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I don't understand how he stayed alive. I had screwdriver like this, and I stabbed.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He demonstrates how he had held the weapon.

[Ed Larson]

I could feel his brain.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sergei survived for a full eight minutes. The camera moves inches away from Sergei, his face now a puddle of bone and blood. Igor taunts him one last time, asking,

[Marcus Parks]

what a fucking day for you, huh?

[Henry Zebrowski]

They finally wash the weapon and their hands with a bottle of water. Victor appears panicked at this point, urging Igor to leave immediately. Igor says, no, they must get the picture first. This is where we last see them with Sergei standing over his corpse. Zig hiling.

[Marcus Parks]

Was the sig heil too much? I don't want to put the hat on. A hat?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no. Where do I put the hat on? Into Ms.

[Ed Larson]

Paint.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay, so. Oh, so we fix in post. Yeah, we fix in post.

[Ed Larson]

Technically, rush out is more hammer. You know, it was on the old flag. I don't know. So, hold on. Was. Was Sergey dead when they left him, or was he just still, like, he

[Henry Zebrowski]

was completely dead by the time that they were done.

[Ed Larson]

So by the time the video's over, you, like, see him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You see him die. You see him die on camera.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. It is a full murder beginning to end.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Both of you have seen this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I've seen the. I. I remember first seeing it when it first came out, like, 2008. And then. I don't. I. Now I've only seen stills since.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I think I saw it in 2011. I remember watching it when. In the closet at the creek.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The. The first. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

The. Or the second place we recorded.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

The tiny little closet. I remember watching it, by the way.

[Ed Larson]

The room that you had panic attacks. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I wonder why the room had panic attacks in. But that had more to do with just impending claustrophobia from spending 10 to 12 hours a day in a closet.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And with many other people in there. Three, sometimes four other people in there at a time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Breathing so loud. Breathe so hot. Yeah. So drunk.

[Ed Larson]

So that.

[Marcus Parks]

So high.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So they filmed this. So we know. We don't know if they filmed every murder, but we know that it only took two days after shooting the video for them to murder again. July 14th, they knocked 45 year old Natalia Marmachuk off her scooter, dragged her into the woods, beat her to death. But they were getting very cavalier with their crimes. The murders were now just being openly done all day. This particular murder had several witnesses. A bunch of street boys, as they were described, were hiding in a rickety Ford of old construction pallets and saw the entire attack. Obviously once they were done singing about moving to Santa Fe, they gave a description to police which matched the one young Vadim gave under duress during at the police department.

[Ed Larson]

All right, so is it always hammers and screwdrivers?

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's always hammers and screwdrivers.

[Ed Larson]

No tire irons. They don't change it up at all.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Pipes. Some sand filled pipes as well. Yeah, that's the other one.

[Ed Larson]

San filled pipes is fucking scary.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, Russian.

[Marcus Parks]

It's how they killed the. The. The kids that were going out fishing at 3 in the morning. They knocked knock them off the bikes with it and then beat them. Yeah, they just, they really like the simplicity of itality of it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And they like stuff they can get from the store.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Something they don't have to ask somebody to get. Which is why they didn't get a gun.

[Ed Larson]

It's exactly why I used to have computer cleaner instead of drinking. I was too young, see. You could buy the computer cleaner.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, that's legal. Legal.

[Marcus Parks]

But you're walking on sunshine. I mean, I understand

[Henry Zebrowski]

now.

[Ed Larson]

I mean we're here, we're talking about this. Did they also use the back of the hammer?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, that was in the originally that was the problem is that they said it took too long for them to pull it out.

[Marcus Parks]

It gets stuck pretty easily.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Cool. So they're trying to make it go fast. See by this point the entire city of Dnipro is paralyzed. Streets are empty. Tourists left the industrial city center. Kids were being kept home from school. And still total silence from the police.

[Ed Larson]

There were tourists.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, right, right. I don't know. We'll get to that later. We'll get to later. The first mention of the hammer maniacs in Ukrainian news would be June 24, after the three of them were already arrested. This is where all the details begin to break down. Due to the sheer amount of murders, it seems the local media couldn't keep up and began to lump the murders together even as the each individual murder escalated in violence. From June 14th to the 16th. Two people were found a day, same M.O. knocked off a bike Picked off a path, beaten, stabbed multiple times. The victims followed the same pattern. Vulnerable, weaker people. This one, however, we're starting to see an edge up. One of the victims was eight months pregnant when she was found. Her face was unrecognizable as all the others. But at this very peak of their total depravity, they removed the fetus from her belly and smashed that with hammers as well.

[Marcus Parks]

Then to me, that's what they should be known for. Like, they should be like the fetus smashers. Like, that's not the hammer maniac.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, they didn't film them.

[Marcus Parks]

They didn't film them and they didn't still.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean, yeah, they should technically be the baby tartar murderers, I think.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, two more of those, they probably would have been. And that's just the one.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I think that was the issue for them really, was that they didn't want to be the baby tartar murder.

[Ed Larson]

It's crazy. It's like every time, like I think, like I set my mind on, there should be no death penalty, I learn about people like this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, man. And that's the worst part too, is that they're 19, right? They're fucking. They're evil.

[Marcus Parks]

Young.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're young and they're evil.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. I actually looked up what the fetish smashers would be in Russian. It's actually kind of a cute little name.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What does it mean?

[Marcus Parks]

Source Gritty Plover.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, that is cute. That should be a cartoon. It's just like two little cute, like abortionists with pink hammers. Fly from your grave. Last podcast on the left is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game? Well, with the name your price tool from Progressive, you can find options that fit your budget and potentially lower your bills. Try [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. Not available in all states. This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. Whether you're just starting out or scaling your business, Squarespace is the all in one website platform designed help your business stand out and succeed online. Squarespace gives you everything you need to offer services and get paid all in one place. From consultations to events and experiences. Showcase your offerings with a customizable website designed to attract clients and grow your business. The best part about it is it can help you design a funnel in which you can very quickly record commercials so that you can get it done while you were desperately trying to get on break. That's the best part about Squarespace. It can really shorten up the time you spend doing things. You got to get in there. You got to get in there. Use Squarespace. Man, is it fast. It is absolutely incredible. You're going to love your experience at Squarespace. Head to squarespace.com left for a free trial and when you're ready to launch, use offer code left to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Are you tired of spending hundreds on crazy high wireless bills, bogus fees and free perks that cost you more in the long run then a premium wireless plan for mint mobile for 15 bucks a month might be right for you. Bring your own phone and number, activate with ESIM in minutes and start saving immediately. No long term contracts, no hassle. It's crazy how much I am saving on with my Mint Mobile phone. It's kind of almost too much money in a way. I'm saving so much money I'm able to buy myself that new re heightening surgery. Have you heard of this where you they smash your shins and they stretch you out so that you look like a. Like an evil giraffe. You go to Turkey and you spend several thousands of dollars to be harmed by them. And I want to say thank you Mint Mobile for giving me that opportunity. Because I can finally succumb to the shame I feel. And without you I wouldn't be able to Mint Mobile thanks for the money. And if you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop [e-mail] lpotl that's mintmobile.com lpotl upfront payment of 45 for 3 month 5 gigabyte plan required equivalent to 15 per month. New customer offer for first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See Mint Mobile for details. In mid July a funeral service was held for 13 year old Andre, one of our younger victims from episode one. Young Vadim, the first to identify the pair to the police after days of beatings, was not ready to go to the funeral so he stayed home. Luckily or unluckily for him, the Hammer Maniacs also attended. This would become another category in their photography portfolio. They attended the funeral, waited until the congregants left and then took posed photographs with the casket. Afterwards Igor would use Ms. Paint to add Hitler mustaches to Victor in his face. They attended several victims funerals and always did a little photo shoot afterwards. Given the graves, the middle finger and the traditional suck it x. Oh, like

[Marcus Parks]

dx like yeah yeah.

[Ed Larson]

They didn't even have the common decency to nail the coffin shut, right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, you know, like, hey, what do we do here for hey?

[Ed Larson]

You know.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Again, they don't build lasting legacies. After a truly horrendous run, leaving 21 people dead, Igor and Victor entered into a traditional cooldown phase. Probably they noticeably stopped. Word had started to spread. Dnipro's only so big. How long could they hide if they stayed in town?

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

By now every police officer in Dnipro was on the case. Pedro Ochvar, head of the investigator department of the Dnipropetrovsk Regional prosecutor's office even admitted their investigation had massive problems.

[Marcus Parks]

Obviously, yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Many of the original attacks and robberies were never even reported to higher ups. They were considered one and done crimes. They didn't do anything about it, but at least they admitted it. And there was several, like disciplinary hearings. Yeah, yeah, my bad. Literally.

[Ed Larson]

They probably have never fucking worked before, these cops in a small ass town like this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, it's. It is again, it's all about that. This is the middle period in which everything that was Russian about Ukraine is still trying to become Ukrainian. And it is very difficult for them to get rid of the old world police attitudes.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And all of these ideas of. They just were. They kind of were expected to run the place on their own.

[Ed Larson]

And they had descriptions of them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, but they had. You would have to first take the children witnesses seriously, which is again they were not wanted to do.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean it's not that small. It's the fourth largest city in Ukraine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I guess. I guess it is pretty nothing. Yeah, I mean like, you know, it's not.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean it's not that. I mean it's around the. According to Wikipedia, the 2022 estimate was a little under a million people.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Ed Larson]

That's a huge city.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean it's the size of like Austin. Yeah. Or maybe. Yeah, about the size of Austin.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But it doesn't matter. Because the heat was starting to turn up. Igor and Victor would regularly pawn the goods they stole. This would be no different. See, the key was to rob people with brick phones. Nothing too new. They decided against their better judgment and tried to sell a newer1 for $20 USD. Once activated the SIM ping the phone company, the police located a device. The pair were arrested as they walked out the door. Done. It was immediately that he went to go one cell phone. Literally by the time they left, they were arrested. They then went to Alexander Hans's house and arrested him there almost simultaneously.

[Marcus Parks]

And Alexander was the kid that didn't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That wasn't a part of the murders?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. He had just robbed a couple of people and decided, I'm out. He was also the poorer one too.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. And he was included in the shots, like in the mug shots of the maniacs.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Ed Larson]

And he probably knew they were doing it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, there were other. Yes, there's been other factors probably to the arrest, but we're not quite certain. The cashier could have probably recognized them from wanted posters and have called the police discreetly. That is possible. We don't know, though it is possible. This is what they were saying. This is one of those more interesting nebulous things is that they were ratted out by an acquaintance that was scouted by them to be a potential new third maniac like Shep.

[Ed Larson]

Wow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Here we're going to have another guy in there.

[Ed Larson]

Wow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And there was a guy that they might have been courting that then went and told the police.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay, so you're saying that Igor and Victor, that's Larry and Moe and Alexander is like curly?

[Henry Zebrowski]

He was. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And then he left.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He left.

[Marcus Parks]

And then they tried getting a ship.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then Shep told Chef, boy, Chef, you like hammer? You hate face? Honestly, mostly what I do, I like the paintbrush. I like to make a pretty painting of a flower. That will not work with us binding. You know, they say there's a million ways to skin a cat. These guys know.

[Ed Larson]

I thought it was a thousand.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, they invented like another bunch of them.

[Marcus Parks]

I thought it was a hundred.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, yeah. Igor and Victor would be arrested on July 23, and the Den of Propertrov's Hammer maniac murder spree would come to an end. Investigators dispatched their homes to search for evidence. Igor and Victor's parents were not exactly cooperative with authorities. Victor's parents kept the police outside the home for 40 minutes as sounds of septic pipes flushing could be heard in the neighbor's living room. The next day, plumbers took apart the pipes inside the complex to find a watch and three cell phones belonging to victims of the Hammer maniacs. Oh, no.

[Marcus Parks]

Now I have to take feces dump.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I have much borscht for lunch today. Listen, I cannot argue. I also had the borscht for lunch and currently I am fighting much diarrhea. Fighting and fighting diarrhea with all of the strength of ocean side of my life, you grail Ukrainian fight diarrhea and wind.

[Ed Larson]

If Ukrainian toilets weren't so clogged, they would have never found this evidence.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Right, Right. So that day that these two cross eyed trolls, they were awful at being elite soldiers of the Aryan Race. Laughable, considering the Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of their countrymen.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, to be fair, they helped. For freelance Maniac, they did good. Like 21 is pretty good.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Pretty high number.

[Marcus Parks]

But you know, but we learned, remember from the Foxcatcher series, like if you have the support of the state, you can accomplish anything honestly, that's why we

[Henry Zebrowski]

need those art programs back. So according to detectives, while searching for clues in Igor's and Victor's rooms, it looked as if no attempt was made at all for covering for their many crimes. In both Igor and Victor's closets, every single item had bloodstains. Every shirt, every jacket, every pair of sneakers was splashed with fat. Drops of crusty red and brown sluice,

[Marcus Parks]

mostly brown blood dries. Brown, brown.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Also among the maniac's personal belongings, they found a bloody earring ripped from the lobe of one of the victims and several computer hard drives containing their self made memorabilia. Igor collected newspaper clippings about the killings in a scrapbook. Think about a 19 year old keeping a scrapbook. He followed his own story obsessively. Several murders would only get linked to the pair because Igor saved the specific article about a random dead body. Otherwise police would have no idea. In the report, detectives noted Igor's dog eared copy of Mein Kampf at the side of the bed.

[Marcus Parks]

Dog eared. So he saved certain passages to read again.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it's been like, oh yeah, oh this is a good one.

[Ed Larson]

My struggle must have wreaked in there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh yeah, yeah. Full calm.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, that's the blood. Well, that's the question that I have is that, you know, they say that Victor's parents wouldn't let them in. Yeah, because, you know, they were flushing evidence. So did their parents just know that they were, that they were killing people and they just sort of said, you know, we'll deal with it later.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They had opened animal skeletons in the house. Right. Her parents, the way they, the parents seem to really view that they are doing the harmless boy thing of mutilating many, many animals. Sure. That is what they're saying is that it's. This is. How could this be a crime? They are just boys. Yes. They have systematically like tortured these animals. But they are, they viewed them as like, oh, you know, it's this country boy do country thing. Like, and so they were begging off entirely, saying that there's no way that they ever could have done. It's also like they were busy. They were, they both were professionals. Both of them, both of their parents worked. They were not around. They Also were just the. They just kind of. By that point, they were in 19.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. But even so, it seems like there's, like Richard Chase's apartment is like, inside somebody's home.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

And how are you going to miss that?

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's because they were. They didn't want it to be true. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Also, as someone with a Ukrainian mother, she would have done anything to keep me out of jail.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That is what my crimes were. You're funny enough. It's true, because that will come up. That's going to come up. They refused to believe that they were guilty ones. At the police station, Igor and Victor quickly confessed to at least 19 killings. Victor tried to soften his involvement, staying stating he only did it for the money. Igor, on the other hand, he enjoyed his newfound spotlight. When asked by detectives how he felt after murdering almost two dozen innocent people, he responded.

[Marcus Parks]

What do you feel when you cut a sausage?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Excitement. Yeah, I feel.

[Marcus Parks]

I feel good, too. I like cutting sausage. I cut sausage all day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, well, I think you mean something else. I got sausage. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

When it was. Oh, man. When they're on the grill and they get all fat and you cut it and the juice squirts out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. I love a toddler. Yeah, I love a toddler. Now.

[Marcus Parks]

Now I can see you're Ukrainian when

[Henry Zebrowski]

I see the joy in your eye

[Marcus Parks]

when you talk about sausage juice.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's so good. We're going to independent. We're going to Indianapolis only trying to get sausages. Igor is quite excited about the details, explaining step by step, the murder of Sergey Yatsenko. When asked by interrogators, why did he film this? He simply stated to remember in their first initial hearing, the boys jeered at the live human audience. They were held in a cage in court like a traveling oddity. But we know that's how they do it in Eastern Europe.

[Marcus Parks]

They did it with Andre Chikatilo.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's kind of fun. Yeah, I want that. I want it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. The cage in the courtroom, it's pretty great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Alexander was the only one visibly beaten by police, even though he was the only one of them to not murder a human being. We know why.

[Ed Larson]

And they didn't, like, beat them for fun even?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no. Because they were very connected.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

That's crazy to me.

[Marcus Parks]

So Alexander got all of the anger, all of it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They beat the living out of him

[Ed Larson]

because they were beating a confession out of him that he didn't. And he actually. He held strong.

[Henry Zebrowski]

In a weird way, he gave up the other two. They were given a psych evaluation. And they were proven as fit to stand trial. That didn't stop Igor's lawyer from mounting an insanity plea defense for his client. Victor's lawyer would also follow suit, stating Igor got pleasure from the murders and admitted to the investigators that if the police had not taken him away, he would have continued to commit atrocities. Igor forced Victor to film videos. Victor was afraid of becoming a victim of the Hammer maniac himself.

[Marcus Parks]

That's always the defense when there's two people, one person all like. It's the same thing with Ken and Barbie killers. Yeah, everyone. I think it was Ken and Barbie killers, but yeah, it's.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, that's always in the pre trial

[Ed Larson]

hearing bars and snooch.

[Henry Zebrowski]

In the pre trial hearings, the boys acted like conquering heroes. They were proud of their exploits. Igor explained it all for detectives.

[Marcus Parks]

By killing first cats and dogs and then people, we overcome our fear of death.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Apparently they don't even do enough towards their own homicidal goals. Igor lamented detectives that only if he had a gun they could kill for

[Marcus Parks]

real and beat Chikatello's record.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Igor and Victor.

[Ed Larson]

I'm sorry to do this. I don't want to get to. Who's Chikatilo?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Ah, Andre Chikatilo, the Red Ripper.

[Marcus Parks]

The most infamous serial killer in Russian history. Really? Yeah. That's. You didn't read the book that. That we wrote this whole chapter on him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Illiterate piece of.

[Ed Larson]

I read the one chapter that you told me I had to read for the thing that we did.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, Andre Ticatello is a truly one of the worst of the worst. Yeah, one of the worst. The worst killed children. He couldn't come unless they were screaming and dying. So he became. Once he realized that he just would. He would murder to come. And then one of the worst things he did was he cut that little girl open and he chewed on her uterus. He said it was like chewing gum.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, he liked it. He really liked.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You don't like that.

[Marcus Parks]

He really liked eating people. Just chewing on the. The body parts of his victims killed somewhere around. I think it was 52, 53 that we know of. Yeah, he was the worst.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, God.

[Ed Larson]

His name sounds like a menu item. Coming back to Taco Bell.

[Marcus Parks]

Andre Chikatilo. Now available after midnight at Taco Bell.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bong ding.

[Ed Larson]

Oh.

[Henry Zebrowski]

With now with beats. Igor and Victor, they had created a fake mythology out of old racist ideas played out on the Internet like a game of telephone. They must have researched the Icelandic parts of the Himler silmarillion.

[Marcus Parks]

Why are you bringing Iceland into this

[Henry Zebrowski]

we got you because remember, Himmler stole the Iceland's past in order to rebuild. The white people were from the mountains and created everything.

[Marcus Parks]

This is the Poetic Edda.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Beautiful, beautiful piece of literature.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is. That was fucking corrupted by the Nazis, right? The shitheads said they were building an army for heaven. The more people you killed, the more souls would be bound to you in the afterlife. All of this to say they were teenage morons making up to sound cool.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Once the trial began, however, the tune changed. Igor and Victor begged off. They claimed their confessions were tortured out of them. Even though Alexander was the only one showing any signs of physical violence. Their parents, with access to good lawyers, attempted to prove that all the videos were faked. That it was a Russian disinfo scheme. Igor's father went as far to harass witnesses to not testify. Victor's parents will claim until this day that the videos were a Byzantine machination of Russian and U. S Special ops using CGI that hadn't been invented yet.

[Ed Larson]

Lock them up too.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey man, who cares? The prosecution's evidence was much stronger. They had many eyewitnesses, all of the trophies they found in Igor and Victor's home belonging victims, and lots of DNA evidence. But obviously the most damning was the video footage.

[Marcus Parks]

The evidence that the prosecution had was evidence so overwhelming that it's not even worth mentioning.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just one of those where I just wanted to say like they put up like a defense and then it's just like. And then it was like, here's all the stuff that you did, you know, like. Prosecutors showed several film crimes in court. The director's cut of three guys, one hammer. The kitten crucifixion video. And another attack with a survivor. Her name was Lydia Marshen Cava. She got to watch herself get her own teeth kicked in several times while attending court that day. There were at least four other videos shown. Whoever leaked three guys one hammer must have had access to court records. We're going to get to it. It didn't hit the Internet until 2008, way a year after they were convicted, or months after they were convicted. The maniac's defense fell short. The judge in the case responded. Do you think the blind are judging you? We have already seen enough of you from the front and the back and the profile. It took two days to read the 150 page long verdict. Alexander Hansa would get nine years for his participation in the armed robberies. But nothing for the murders.

[Marcus Parks]

Surprisingly fair for an Eastern European court.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They literally. This was A good move. And most everyone believed in this. They were all happy about the fact that he only got nine years, even though he was a part of it.

[Ed Larson]

From what I understand, I could be wrong. It seemed like Alexander also agreed with it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, he was like. Because he felt really bad he was a part of the case against the other two. Yeah, that's how it worked. And. And then Igor and Victor didn't get the book thrown at them as they should have. They were declared guilty on all counts and were sentenced to life in prison, where they are still today. Unfortunately, their reputation would outgrow their input into this life. They became Internet famous after the court footage was leaked and went viral. Millions of views on hundreds of websites featured three guys, one hammer. Black pilled. Urchins from Dnipro would brag about the proximity and access to the maniacs like an incel badge of honor. In 2011, Russian teenagers Arthur Onufrev and Nikita Litkin would be directly inspired to murder strangers with hammers themselves. The press would dub them the Academy Maniacs. And the murders happened in Irkuts, a Russian city. This time very similar. Run up 2 shithead kids get wrapped up in neo Nazi ideology. The the Academy Maniacs went as far to actually join a legit White power organization with the clever name, get this. White Power.

[Ed Larson]

Whoa. Hide in plain sight.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, that's the idea. What is this about? White Power Chicken sign. They were obsessed with becoming like their favorite serial killers. First it was the Chessboard Killer. Alexander Pushnikina. Right. A Russian serial killer. We have to do a whole thing on him. Yeah, he's very famous. Right.

[Marcus Parks]

I've got. There have been many Russian serial killers that I discovered when we were writing the book.

[Ed Larson]

You're like surprised I didn't read a book? You've known me for almost 20 years. I've read less books than those years.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The two idiots would form a fan club called Poochesquina for president. When three guys, one hammer hit the Internet, they saw how they could enter the history books like their idol, Andre Chikatilo. They beat a 12 year old boy riding by on a hiking trail to death with mallets. No homicide investigation was necessary since police determined it was a snow scooter accident. The failure on behalf of the police made the little fuckers feel invincible. They mimicked the Hammer Maniac's attacks for several more weeks before they were caught in. In total, six people would be murdered, nine injured. They formed a band called the Evil Dwarves. Did you listen to it?

[Marcus Parks]

I did not listen to the Evil Dwarves. But I'm well familiar with their biggest influence, Anal Cunt.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. And Anal Cunt seems to be. I looked up Anal Cunt and There Seem to be nice Men. Right.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, Anal was a joke that. Well, it started off as a joke. They wanted to do the. They wanted to have the most offensive band name ever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's not it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. And also, Gigi Allen ripped off Anal. Because a lot of people say, oh, you know, it's based on a. Gigi. No. Gigi Allen ripped off Anal Con. And to be fair, the first two anal records, they're called Everyone Should Be Killed. And I like it when you die.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, but it's obvious.

[Marcus Parks]

It's a joke.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's ironic.

[Marcus Parks]

It's obvious.

[Ed Larson]

Napalm Death. I mean, Cannibal Corpse.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. But, like, listen to some of the song titles from Everyone Should Be Killed.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're gay. Technology's gay.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, that's a different album. But the first. That's the second album.

[Ed Larson]

Because the worst.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, because the second.

[Marcus Parks]

The second album, they decided they were from New Jersey and it's like they wanted to do things like, hood's gay, Everything's gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay. But the first album is like, you got some songs, some more songs. Even more songs. Song titles are fucking stupid. Having to make up song title sucks. And of course, a cover of EMF's. Unbelievable. Amongst 52 other tracks on the album, every anal song is less than a minute long. Most of them are like, you know, 30 to 40 seconds. Drawing chord. It's really fast. It's supposed to be funny.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I would also say, straight up, their band is bad. No, I listen to evil. No, Evil Dwarves is bad. Anal Khan has some charm to it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. Animal Khan has a lot of charm, but controversial to say the least.

[Ed Larson]

No, I like just the Dwarves.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, the Dwarves are great. Dwarves are fantastic.

[Ed Larson]

Dwarves are great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, they do here.

[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

Legacy Would Be brought up again in the crimes of Luca Magnotta. The proto looks maxer from Canada who purposely broadcast his crimes to Gore sites. His video One Lunatic, One Ice Pick depicted the dismemberment of a young man, a student named Lynn Juan. The most infamous fallout from this case however, would have to be, in my opinion, the use of the Maniacs his crimes to inspire an invasion of another country. Vladimir Putin has developed an intense hard on to occupy Ukraine. From what I can glean, Putin wants to be an emperor and one can't be that without an empire. Russia wants Ukraine's location and its resources. We learned that from risk. But some countries, evil dictators, will at least take the time to lie about a reason why. And to that we can thank Vladimir Putin and Putin's February 2022 speech declaring his intention to denazify Ukraine with an invasion. He was referring almost directly to the Hammer Maniacs. Stills from Three Guys One Hammer would be used as examples of young Nazis filling the streets of Ukraine. This is a spin on the actual history. Ukraine did have its own nationalist fascist party during WW2. The OUN organization of Ukrainian Nationalists.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, almost every Eastern European country had Nazi collaborators and anti Semites. Every not almost every single one, everyone. Every single country that the Nazis occupied, there were collaborators in that country and people that were like yeah, bring them in, kill all the Jews.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then what they also did was then think they could still hold their own. Right? Like the the Oun would help the Nazis commit violence against Ukraine Ukrainian people they'd helped during Operation Barbarossa. But they had this idea in their head that then we'll form our own Oun nationalist Ukraine and the Nazis will love us and then we'll get to hang out with Germany and Italy and a whole pure utopia of made out of total hate.

[Marcus Parks]

And did it happen like that?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Absolutely not. Nazis fucking backtrack. They completely backstabbed them. They eventually arrested all of the Oun, they put them in concentration camps and the idiots left left over from the from the Oun would still be around to do the thankless dirty work for the Germans during the occupation.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Now the Ukrainians. The one thing I do know about the Ukrainian government is they were incredibly corrupt and incredibly violent up until Zelinsky.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So what happened? So this is the truth is that they were corrupt but this is. It was all systemic and it was sort of like a hangover from the Russian occupation which is whole. It was more of like a confusion and a malaise and a giant parliamentary system that was really like. It made things really fudgeing complicated and slow.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And it all. And the economy was in the shitter. There was a lot of problems. But the truth is fascism isn't that shit of an idea. And across the board and honestly for the most part people don't really even like it in practice. Nazism really only took place amongst the people. In western Ukraine, fascist policies were deeply unpopular in the majority of the country. But 20% of the population stood with the Oun and the Nazis. So it's like there's a whole thing here. In modern propaganda, the Dnipro Hammer Maniacs would be featured in television commercials and magazine articles as examples as the rise of the neo Nazi. And rumors were spread that Igor and Viktor were released to join the Ukrainian armed forces and have since escaped and were murdering freely in the chaos of war.

[Marcus Parks]

And that again is a. That is a spin on reality. Ukraine has released many prisoners.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like yeah, if you want to get

[Marcus Parks]

out and fight for us you can. But it's for like nonviolent offenses specifically

[Henry Zebrowski]

for people that have only killed. You can kill one person, can have killed one person and they will let you go. But that is it. It's all. It's more than two. No sexual crimes. It's anything. It's like it's non violent crimes mostly.

[Marcus Parks]

Except for the one. Yeah the one murder rule. They need people. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't blame them for that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't think the maniacs would qualify either way. We're just saying that it's. It's very complicated. Right. So. And they try to. Propaganda was trying to simplify it because Russia has its own problems with neo Nazis. Hate groups like Mad World, the Blood Magic Gang and the Cleaners committed crimes across the country. And I know those guys, they aren't playing fucking bummer. Shoot. They are the names of Russian far right extremist militia gangs who've also killed dozens of helpless people and the name of Adolf Hitler and his tiny mustache. It's an extremely complex issue. There are decades of nuance. But I will. I'm just going to say my opinion here as the narrator is I will declaratively state that I don't trust Vladimir Putin I don't. I mean, it's just because I've been hurt by shirtless Russian daddies before.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I think you have.

[Ed Larson]

How would you. What would be your first move in defeating Putin and Risk?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, honestly, first of all, is to fucking get him in the room with me playing Risk. That's the first move. Slowly. Poison.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Because you don't know. Vladimir Putin actually speaks perfect English. He just chooses not to.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No plan Be very good at risk. Yeah, I imagine he's super good at risk. He breaks his own dice. And as for the rumors, and this is a big thing. And as for the rumors that the Dnipro Hammer murders were content farming for international snuff markets, the evidence is thin. The only videos to surface from their collection came from a leak within the court system. Only three guys, One Hammer is confirmed to be legit on the Internet. The rest, we've only heard the description. Take this just like it sounds. But a source that was friends with Igor stated that he said, Igor said, When we hit 40 kills, then we get rich. Implying that they were vendors making an order. But there is no significant evidence of a Ukrainian mafia snuff film ring connected to this case. Full stop.

[Marcus Parks]

None.

[Henry Zebrowski]

As awesome as that may be, ironically.

[Marcus Parks]

How is that ironically awesome?

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's cool to think that there's something like that because that's just fun idea. Just adds a.

[Ed Larson]

Fun from like an evil Satanist perspective. Yeah, sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

From my perspective. Yeah. Even though I would say the general concept of an international snuff fill market seems a more realistic possibility each passing day.

[Ed Larson]

Snuff question. All right. Do snuff films have to have rape in them?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, that's if you pay the extra premium.

[Ed Larson]

Three guys, One Hammer is a snuff film.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If it was paid for. A snuff film is only. Is. Is done two orders.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. It's a snuff film, is a produced project.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It has been asked for, it's been paid for.

[Ed Larson]

So you can't make it and then sell it. That's not a snuff.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, you can. That would be snuff.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. If you make it. And then it would be like if Tires model. It would be like if you make. Yeah. Made a movie or made a TV show and then sold it to a distributor, then it becomes snuff. Until then, it's just private.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it's a problem, man. It's like Peyton alone in your house. See, I. This is my personal opinion. I think that snuff films could potentially exist in very small batches in even Smaller circles. The only reason why is I could apply the same rules that C Sam has, right? Private encrypted groups. It's WhatsApp chats, right. It's like just literally texting people on the phone. Tell it was a telegraph telegram. Telegram.

[Ed Larson]

I love my telegram.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He loves it. Oh, God, he loves it. Right?

[Ed Larson]

Every time. Oh, no, you go ahead, you talk.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Dedicated to extreme tastes and pornography all the way across the legal spectrum. Them from like, not a crime, but don't dog sit for me style. Like, I love eating and watching people eat. You can get that. That's legal. You can get it.

[Marcus Parks]

That's fine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But you might have to go find it.

[Marcus Parks]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But in on the same places where you find that stuff, you're probably going to find the fully illegal. It's not a Serbian film. Triple X. Right. Like you're going to find the real thing. Because in my. Maybe, maybe. But I think that in my opinion, you could, in my opinion, you could apply the same rules to snuff, but just shrink it. Shrink it. Shrink it, trinket, Shrink it. The lists are extremely short. But there's another theory that Rachel, our researcher, fucking dug up. She saved my butt. Rachel saved my butt. This fucking series.

[Marcus Parks]

But I do want to say about snuff films, I, I, I truly do think that if there was a market for snuff film, like if there was an actual market, people producing them, we would have found out about it by now. It would be. But we would know about it. Like, they, there's no way that they can operate under such intense, extreme secrecy where we wouldn't know. Because that's the thing about all the Epstein stuff. It's like we knew about all of it in rumor for years. Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It even floated and floated and floated for so long.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And something like this, it's. People cannot keep their mouth shut. They just said that is the human condition. Human beings cannot keep their mouth shut about things. They cannot keep secrets. And if snuff films existed, we would know about them because somebody would say, I have a snuff film.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, there was a market for snuff films. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

If there was a market. Of course, people. Of course, there have been plenty of people that have died on camera. Yeah. Filmed murders on camera, of course. And I'm sure that those have been sold at some point to other people. But I don't think that there is an underground market where people are producing snuff films.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But there's an interesting thing Rachel brought up that we were talking back and forth so we, we got a little bit into exactly where was Three Guys One Hammer first put up. Yeah, that was like, hard to figure out. So Rachel Burke kind of there's a theory that might connect some dots of all of this. The biggest Gore site to host Three Guys One Hammer was O Grish dot com. She pointed out, like, as Rachel says, if you look at it, it's the only one of the all of these Gore sites that had to submit context rule. So you literally had to say what it was, where it came from. So it was technically kind of legit. And this was back in the day, it wasn't like YouTube. It was bulletin boards. So this is really about the conversation. This is about putting things up and watching and people would, like, talk about it. Just so you know, there was a time back in the day before YouTube for those of you that are younger. All right, remember, just know that right now you have big pants on. They're gonna get skinny again.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then those skinny pants are gonna get big again and they're gonna go back to skinny. They're gonna go back to big. It doesn't matter. Keep the old style pants because they're gonna come back. Okay.

[Marcus Parks]

All right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But there was also a thing like bulletin boards where it was. The Internet was more about talking to people and not about likes. Yeah, yeah, Stuff like this. Ogres. Dot com. Right. But what if Gore sites came of age, which they did when millennials came of age, because most of it was fueled by the war on terror.

[Marcus Parks]

This is a good, this is a very good point.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This comes from Rachel. The basic argument is that footage of beheadings, war crimes, and other forms of extreme violence was re being repackaged as amateur war porn. This was a huge benefit to Gore sites because like amateur pornography, it gave them a steady stream of material that they could regurgit and recirculate without dealing with copyright costs invading all of the other legal issues with as with dealing with actual snuff paid for content. So essentially it's a lot of like, why pay for it when there's so much of it for free? It's all out there. It's already being filmed. Many of these hostage and execution videos were much longer just like the Dnipro one from then their original forms. A lot of them. When we see stuff like people dying on Gore like Gore.com and these other things, what we actually don't know is that a context has been stripped from them. So a lot of them are way longer from the violence. They take the violence out and they show it, but you don't see all the other stuff, like minutes of political speeches, confessions, all this kind of stuff to show you that these were filmed by people in war. Yeah. Doing this as a, like, hostage situation.

[Ed Larson]

Man. One that stuck with me that I saw was, like, there was a guy who was, like, being drawn. Quartered by pickup trucks.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

And like, they dra. And then finally, like, his arm got ripped off, and then they were dragging his ass, and then his shoulder fell out of his body, like, while he was like. And then, like, of course, like, the thing I saw, like, paused and showed the shoulder fall out of his body. And then they stopped the truck and

[Henry Zebrowski]

then just shot him a bunch legitimately. Why pay for it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

When you can. When there's just so much of it. And this Ogrish would eventually turn into Live Leak, which is why it was the. The most legit one, because it saved around there. And those of you who don't remember, Live Leak, that was a Gore site that essentially had used skin put on it. Yeah. And then it became legit. But, God, I love Live Lake. All right, get rid of it because it's bad.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it was a bad thing.

[Ed Larson]

I know it was bad. I used to watch it, too.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because what happened is all of these websites got also then got shot. They basically rose up during a war of terror, then got shut down when all these guys started seeing military videos being shown and private military videos, like the Abu Ghraib stuff. All the stuff getting. Coming out. So then the government started crack down on the Gore website sites, saying that they were a threat to national security. So maybe we could see. Because now Gore sites are basically gone.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There's still motherless. There's still a couple of other things. And one more interesting detail in relation to the Hammer video. The author's claim of this. This. We got all this from this dissertation that this guy wrote. Ogress relied heavily on a global network of about 50 key contributors working in fields like law enforcement and medicine. This makes it pretty likely, according to Rachel, which I think was interesting, that one of the cops. Or gotten someone else that was in the actual. A member of the court uploaded those files or so probably more than likely sold them.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, we see that. I mean, a cop took a picture of Kobe's body and sold it. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Chris Farley. I saw that.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's very often. Let's just say coroners are not always the most moral humans. Not always. Not always. It's not about it. It's just easy to do. They're like, yeah, I'll take a picture of a body. We don't. I care. Yeah, yeah. I see them all day. And the other big question I have is if you're gonna. Oh, let's say all. It's true. Let's say all the stuff market is true and you got all of these factors and all this kind of. You're gonna hire these 19 year old idiots that can't hold on to a goddamn job when you have a whole of four pay mercenaries. Yeah. There's all of this like inter country former soldiers of some. Like there's so many guys looking for work.

[Ed Larson]

There's no way Victor wouldn't have ratted on it. Right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

There's no way Victor wouldn't have spilled the beans.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If they knew assassins. It wouldn't be the first thing out of their mouths.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it really would be. And there's also. But on the other hand, what if it's like amateur porn? But what if they. What if they really do enjoy like let's take a couple of kids and let's do what we will with them and see what they do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what I was saying is what if they were an indie production company that was looking for a big distributor. It's not called Hammers Gone Wild.

[Marcus Parks]

But I don't. I don't think that's the case. I, I do 100. I mean I'm just playing devil's advocate. I 100 think that they're just doing it on their own. Because you're right that they would have flipped.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Immediately, all day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Or they would have just been killed in prison.

[Ed Larson]

Exactly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because right now they're still alive. They're sitting in there.

[Ed Larson]

God crazy that no one's killed them in prison yet.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's hard.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean I'm sure they're in a. Just a tiny box. They're not allowed interactions with other prisoners.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. I'll sum up this series by asking y', all, why can't we give peace a chance? Why use a hammer to crush your person? We use a screwdriver to pop eyeballs like fat filled gushers. Use a hammer to build a house for an old lady. Use a screwdriver to calm down your podcast hose.

[Ed Larson]

Hey, wait.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What? It's vodka. Drink.

[Ed Larson]

Oh. Oh.

[Marcus Parks]

I thought you meant that I was

[Ed Larson]

at me while I'm talking.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, it's a vodka.

[Marcus Parks]

I thought to turn it around and stick the handle up his ass.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no, no. I would say me in my butt with it. Yeah. No, I'M talking about the drink.

[Ed Larson]

By the way. Back of the Hammer. Probably would have been way better to pop out the eyeballs.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Really good. I wish you were there.

[Marcus Parks]

See, unfortunately no, it would be too. See, that's the thing. It would be too awkward to get it in there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You get a lot of cheekbones.

[Marcus Parks]

The screwdriver is, I think, a better fulcrum.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank you, Marcus. You know, guys, unfortunately, I'm gonna say I don't think there's an easy lesson here. Yeah. Sometimes. Because you know, it'll come down to if we're going to do this wrap up. You guys would have tried to get inspired. I'm sorry. Because sometimes bad things happen to people not asking for it. It's easy to do violence, especially to weak, unarmed citizens not prepared for a fight. The Hammer Maniacs are just another example of the effective strategy of kill all, loot all we've seen since man organized his violence. These fuckers, you gotta remember, they don't build lasting things though. They don't. The Hammer Maniacs legacies. They may be long and they may be dark, but it did not kill the heart of Dnipro. I don't care what you state. You can still go river eel trapping in the Dnieper anytime you want. That's so nice. It's flush with eels. And you have to see, honestly. And I would even beg you to see in the Magister majesty of the monument to the students and staff of the Medical institute who died during the Great Patriotic War in person.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because that's got to be fun. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, the Great Patriotic Board, by the way, that's what the Russians called World War II.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

It's a. That's a weird monument to have.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just.

[Marcus Parks]

It's just that students and staff at the Medical Institute who died.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep.

[Marcus Parks]

I guarantee you we're going to get an email about how this is a very important monument in Ukraine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Teach me. Okay. Big, I feel. Got it. Huh?

[Ed Larson]

Real.

[Marcus Parks]

A plaque.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Dude.

[Ed Larson]

I'll read any plaque in the goddamn world.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's his favorite thing to read. An airport.

[Ed Larson]

I'll just be like, plaque

[Henry Zebrowski]

my hour. Catch the next man.

[Marcus Parks]

There's a plaque here.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So. Actually, so I think no matter what anybody says, dinopropetrovsk is doing great. Except actually, I just got this note from our researcher Rachel. Dnipro has actually become a frequent target in Russia's war against Ukraine. On January 14, 2023, a Russian missile strike destroyed a nine story apartment building, killing five people and injuring at including 12 children. As recently as January 22, 2026. Another missile strike damage a residential building, injuring at least 11 people, four of them children. But hey, no hammers.

[Ed Larson]

That's right.

[Marcus Parks]

Way to go, Vladimir Putin. I mean, he's. He's climbing up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's climbing up.

[Marcus Parks]

He might read. He might surpass them one of these days.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, Vladimir is. He's sick. Yeah, yeah, he's sick.

[Marcus Parks]

They've been saying that for years, though. I wonder if it's cold in Moscow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah. Do you think he ever. He must be lonely. No one can sit. Only they can't sit between, like 20ft of him.

[Marcus Parks]

He doesn't have a wife.

[Ed Larson]

Wow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He doesn't have a wife. He has a girlfriend, right?

[Ed Larson]

Maybe he has someone who, like sits next to him so people don't call him gay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Did you ever see Is that what I'm doing?

[Marcus Parks]

No, no, no. When they say I go out to ride bear, I mean actual bear, Everyone,

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

One thing I know is if you want to buy a legit American hammer, try an est wig made in Rockford, Illinois.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Our local hammers. I also like when you type in three guys, one hammer. There' least one article that's about home improvement. It's so funny to have it immediately be three. It says three guys, one hammer, and you're like, what? As you go. And it's like, what? Just all a couple of buddies and what a couple of, like a couple of tools can do on a weekend.

[Ed Larson]

And you're like, you don't need three guys when you got Bob Villa.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No Bob Villa. He himself is 10 men. But thank you for allowing me to

[Marcus Parks]

do this fantastic job, Henry. Yeah, really, this is. This is really a lot of. It was really a lot of fun to be over here in this side and you really have like an easy week

[Henry Zebrowski]

sometimes. Sometimes I'm rock hard.

[Marcus Parks]

But hey. But I have also been able to use this time to get caught up on no Dogs in Space. New episodes coming in April. New season starting in April.

[Ed Larson]

Fuck yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Can't wait.

[Marcus Parks]

Hey, it's time for Punk 2.0. We just figured out the full season yesterday and it's going to be fucking insane.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hell yeah. I love it.

[Marcus Parks]

It's going to be exciting.

[Ed Larson]

I can't wait. Wait.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I love to hear it. Go to patreon.com last podcast and on the left to get ad free episodes. You can also pay to see our last stream on the left live every Tuesday, 5pm PST.

[Ed Larson]

That's right, we're going to be on the road. April 25, we're going to be in Cincinnati, Ohio, at The Taft Theater. May 29, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and Carnegie. You know that already.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I pushed it.

[Ed Larson]

June 27, Grand Rapids, Michigan, the GLC Live. And on a full weekend in Oklahoma, July 17, Tulsa at the Canes Ballroom, Oklahoma City at the Tower Theater. And then in two weeks, if you're in la, I'm gonna be at the Lyric Hyperion with amber Nelson on April 3rd and with Ashley Brooke Roberts. Gonna be a lot of fun. Good Friday. Spend it with us today. They killed Jesus. Come see some comedy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was the only good thing they did on that Friday.

[Ed Larson]

That's right, it. Oh, they loved it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Kill them again. Go on YouTube. Check out some places underneath. LPN, Romantic Seed, the Foreign Report. No Dogs in Space. It's coming back out for a brand new season. And LPN tv, You're gonna see the new season of Vampire Masquerade at some point.

[Ed Larson]

That's right. And HGX2.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I saw.

[Ed Larson]

I saw the first cut of the first episode.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Look good.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, it's funny.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's funny. It's gonna be. It's going to be good. So you go out there and I hope you have a child. He go out and he find his own peace, huh? Child.

[Marcus Parks]

Caucasian.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, is this Hermler's back?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, always Hammer. Never, never just sitting up. Instead of doing the tip of the tap on the head, why don't you try, why don't you do it on a drum?

[Marcus Parks]

All right, let's get out.

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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