Episode 660: Jimmy Savile Part III - Built on a Lie

Summary

Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 660: Jimmy Savile Part III - Built on a Lie
April 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This third and final installment in the Last Podcast On The Left’s series on Jimmy Savile focuses on the height of Savile’s power and the systemic failures that enabled decades of predation. The hosts—Marcus Parks, Henry Zebrowski, and Eddie Pepitone—trace Savile’s rise as a beloved British media figure, his exploits within the BBC and the National Health Service (NHS), his connections to political and royal power, and the culture of silence and complicity that protected him. The episode is a harrowing exploration of institutional corruption, class privilege, and the mechanisms predators use to evade justice, all rendered in the show’s trademark blend of grim humor and incisive social commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Savile Post-1973: Embedded in Institutions

• Savile shifts his focus from music scenes to charitable roles in NHS facilities such as Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital and Stoke Mandeville Hospital (04:09).
• His “charity” work was a facade to access victims within institutional care; to the public, though, he was the most charitable man in Britain (04:38).
• Cultivated public sympathy by performing visible acts of devotion, notably mourning his mother (“the Duchess”), and became an emblem of altruism and working-class success, despite his increasingly sinister behavior (05:42).

2. The BBC, 'Jim'll Fix It', and Cultural Blindness

• Despite internal knowledge of Savile’s abuses, the BBC prioritized ratings (07:08). He is granted his own children’s show, 'Jim'll Fix It', further cementing his national image (07:40).
• Hosts discuss the British cultural trope of celebrating “eccentric” figures, which helped camouflage Savile’s predatory oddness (06:41).
• 'Jim'll Fix It'—a show granting children’s wishes—gave Savile more access to minors, although he publicly professed to hate children, a contradiction he weaponized as a smokescreen (14:04, 15:22).
• He devised or manipulated wish-fulfillment scenarios to engineer opportunities for abuse; the show’s “Pied Piper” motif is highlighted as an ominous metaphor (16:13).

3. Networks of Protection: BBC, Police, and the Royals

• Reports of abuse reached police and BBC authorities for decades, but were suppressed or ignored due to Savile’s celebrity status (07:08, 09:08).
• The BBC’s culture allegedly harbored widespread sexual abuse among staff, supporting a climate where Savile was essentially untouchable (08:25, 46:29).
• Powerful friendships—most notably with Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and the royal family—further shielded Savile from scrutiny and fueled his influence (18:27, 23:31, 26:55, 29:31).
• Savile’s ability to ingratiate himself to the ruling class—particularly Thatcher and Prince Charles—is connected with deflecting attention from structural neglect (“don’t depend on government; depend on people like Jimmy”) (24:12, 26:55).

4. Royal Connections and Another Layer of Abuse

• Hosts delve into Savile’s relationship with Lord Mountbatten, himself an alleged serial abuser, and the role of class and deference in perpetuating cycles of abuse (48:54, 53:26).
• Savile’s status as a royal “fixer” extended his immunity and gave institutional offenders a fellow predator and conspirator (53:50, 54:17).
• The murder of Mountbatten by the IRA is interpreted as just retribution for his crimes against children in Ireland (62:15).

5. Victim Testimony and Everyday Complicity

• A graphic account of a 12-year-old’s rape at Stoke Mandeville illustrates how hospital staff felt powerless to intervene due to Savile’s prominence; ignoring or enduring his presence was treated like an occupational hazard akin to asbestos (29:31, 34:36).
• Staff feared reprisal or institutional collapse if they acted against him, resulting in an environment where even other staff members became victims (36:16, 34:44).
• This dynamic is revisited throughout—institutions were compromised, and a sense of futility prevailed among rank-and-file workers (34:36, 36:16, 95:03).

6. Media Manipulation & Libel Chilling Effects

• Instances where reporters or comedians (notably Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols and stand-up Jerry Sadowitz) attempted to expose Savile but were censored or banned because of potential libel suits or industry blacklisting (44:51, 45:19, 95:55).
• Savile cultivated media distractions by boasting of violent pasts and reframing questions about sexual crimes (88:16, 89:22).
• Chilling effect kept rumors confined to “edgy” subcultures but out of mainstream discourse until after Savile’s death (46:29, 95:55).

7. The Culture and Psychology of Predation

• Savile’s “Catholic accounting” mindset: charity work was, in his mind, a way to balance out his crimes so God would still reward him (41:00).
• He left hints and had a compulsive need for attention; his manipulations extended beyond sexual predation to psychological games played with institutions and individuals alike (41:00, 42:14).

8. Complicit Systemic Actors

• NHS bureaucrats like Brian McGinnis are named as fellow abusers or enablers who blocked basic reforms for victims (90:23).
• Allies inside law enforcement and media were actively courted, bribed, or compromised (105:50, 106:31).
• The “pedophile network” is portrayed not as a Bond-villain cabal but as a decentralized web of institutional and social connections (105:50).

9. Aftermath, Operation Yewtree, and Legacy

• Once Savile dies, hundreds of survivors come forward. Operation Yewtree identifies nearly 600 cases of assault, though the true number may be far higher (111:05).
• Savile’s commemorative headstone, a self-aggrandizing shrine, is unceremoniously destroyed after the revelations (113:13).
• Despite exposure, very few perpetrators or enablers at institutional levels faced meaningful consequences (113:56).
• Final reflections stress the need for societal vigilance and structural reform—recognizing that predators weaponize systemic weaknesses, and that only openness and understanding can help prevent future abuses (119:11).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On British Slang and Cultural Distance

• Henry: "Then he came in and he gave a little wibble wobble to my manglers." (01:46)
• Marcus: "Your problem is with the slang, is it? The slang’s too cute." (01:42)
• Henry: "I’m hardwired to find the UK accent to be silly." (02:38)

On Institutional Complicity

• Marcus: "While he would usually rape or abuse someone in the process of said swooping, his celebrity and reputation ensured that his crimes went unreported or uninvestigated." (06:49)
• Marcus: "Police all over England have been getting reports on Jimmy Savile for decades by this point, and they had done nothing." (07:08)

On 'Jim'll Fix It'

• Henry: "Jimmy, that's exactly who I suspect. You know what I mean? When I see a guy saying how much he hates kids, but then only does is hang around kids, it's starting to make me think..." (15:22)
• Marcus: "Savile left clues concerning his true intent and motivation. In the title sequence of Jim Will Fix It, Savile led a train of children in the style of the Pied Piper." (16:13)

On Power Structures

• Marcus: "Savile was the supposed working class man... even though Thatcher’s policies were straight up hateful toward the working poor of Britain, she could always bring Jimmy Savile around to tell the people their suffering was actually a good thing and they might even deserve it." (24:12)
• Henry: "It's grifters working with grifters." (25:19)

On Catholic ‘Credit System’ Thinking

• Marcus: "[Savile] believed that if he did enough charity work, it would balance out the ledger with God." (41:00)
• Henry: "Only truly good deed is one done against your will... if I'm miserable doing this, then that means I'm good and that afterwards I can do whatever I want." (43:43)

On The Pedophile “Network”

• Henry: "This is a pedophile network." (105:50)
• Marcus: "It’s a guy’s apartment…they all share the tips of the trade…because they have to operate in groups." (106:19)

On Victim Reports Being Ignored

• Marcus: "If she saw Jimmy Savile come anywhere near her during her recovery, she’d scream the place down. The other nurse just shrugged...because everyone at Stoke Mandeville believed that there was nothing they could do about Jimmy Savile besides endure." (35:26)

On the Power of Systems

• Marcus: "Savile was a genius at knowing and seeing how systems worked…understanding systems is one of the skills that can enable a person to commit evil on a truly massive scale." (115:22)

On Legacy and Reflection

• Henry: "Knowing that… contraction is what makes you do bad things…when you expand and allow progressive things in, you defeat this evil inside of yourself." (119:44)
• Marcus: "We can't stop [this] until we understand it. We can't prevent it until we understand it." (120:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Savile’s transition from music to charities: 04:09–07:03
• BBC & ‘Jim’ll Fix It’: 07:08–16:54
• Savile’s relationships with Thatcher and the Royals: 18:27–29:31; 47:38–56:05
• Royal family & Lord Mountbatten’s crimes: 53:26–62:15
• Victim testimony & institutional self-protection: 29:31–37:46
• Media/cultural failures, Johnny Rotten: 44:51–47:05
• Catholic credit/debt psychology: 41:00–43:43
• Specific crimes, suppression, and police inaction: 87:14–109:24
• Operation Yewtree and posthumous exposure: 111:05–113:56
• Final reflections on systems & prevention: 115:22–120:51

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Thematic Takeaways

• Complicity Thrives in Powerful, Insular Systems: Savile’s evil was enabled by the very institutions designed to serve or protect the public—media, health care, law enforcement, even royalty. Whether through willful ignorance, fear, or active participation, those systems became cover for his crimes.
• Predators Exploit Structural Weakness: The hosts highlight how a predator’s understanding of institutional inertia (“workplace hazard”) creates a paralysis among would-be whistleblowers.
• Media and Social Attitudes Matter: The hosts connect the dots between societal discomfort discussing abuse, victim-blaming, and predators’ success.
• Speaking Out Breaks the Spell: Only after Savile’s death and the removal of the threat of libel were victims’ voices widely heard—emphasizing the importance of sustained, open public conversation on abuse.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a thorough, gut-wrenching examination not just of Savile’s crimes, but of the cultural, institutional, and psychological mechanisms that allowed them. The hosts’ irreverent, often dark humor provides some necessary relief without undermining the seriousness of the subject matter. The conclusion underscores that while systems can be exploited by monsters, public understanding and vigilance are the only way to repair—or rebuild—those systemic protections.

"We can't stop it until we understand it." (120:30, Marcus Parks)

"When you expand and open your heart... you defeat this evil inside of yourself." (119:44, Henry Zebrowski)

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I'm like trying not to smile.

[Marcus Parks]

Your problem is with the slang, is it? The slang's too cute.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He came in, he gave a little wibble wobble to my manglers.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, man. I watched the TV show, the Netflix show, the Louis Theroux doc, another doc, an interview. And then I wasn't gonna put on something else, and I was like, you know what?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, it's extremely sad. And everything, it's gonna change. And every time it's just been like. And that's when he gave my winky a bit of an institutional handshake. It's like, I'm just sick of this, dude. You rather.

[Marcus Parks]

Just like, he handled my penis. Is that what you want?

[Eddie Pepitone]

It does sound a little better. It helps me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Then it's not all just like me. Tiddly winks. I'll get in a bit of a scritchety scratch.

[Marcus Parks]

Welcome to the last podcast on the left, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Marcus Parks. I'M here with the linguistic police, Henry Zabrowski.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just like, you know, it's just hard because I'm hardwired to find, like, the very nice UK accent and British accents to be silly.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Silly and charming.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. Austin Powers did that to all of us. It did, yeah. And of course, we have the man who has seen enough. Perhaps too much, said Larson.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yes. Yes. I don't want two lumps. I want none.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No lumps. No lumps. Me mangle bits. I'm getting toddlers jumped.

[Marcus Parks]

And here we are at the conclusion, part three of Jimmy Savile. The second head on the Mount Rushmore of evil is about to get its last little pink. That's me, that's me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And there's the little penis. Excellent. Ah, yes. Adidas stripes knocked out.

[Eddie Pepitone]

The Mount Rushmore of evil should just be their asses.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know.

[Marcus Parks]

No, just the taint. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If there was one thing that they had the same of Himmler and Jimmy Savile's. But I bet you couldn't tell the difference between the two. They were bent over. You would not be able to tell the difference.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I have a small ass, you have a small ass, they have negative ass.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. They. Yeah. Truly incredibly white. Incredibly white.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes, indeed.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Elmer's Glue in the pants.

[Marcus Parks]

So when we last left Jimmy Savile, the year was 1973. And since Jimmy's age was starting to show the music, all the leaves are proud.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Sorry, I was providing a soundtrack.

[Marcus Parks]

You're about five years too late on California Dream, the music scene that had produced the Beatles and the Rolling stones in the 1960s, that was no longer providing Jimmy Savile with a steady stream of vulnerable teenage girls to manipulate and abuse. So when Jimmy began reaching middle age, he fully embedded himself into various National Health Service facilities, like Broadmoor Psychiat Hospital and Stoke Mandeville Hospital for Spinal Injuries. It was, of course, under the guise of charity, but Savile's real purpose was the farming of these institutions for victims. But as far as the people of England were concerned, Jimmy Savile was the most charitable man in the country, A person who devoted his every spare moment to helping the less fortunate, even if he was sometimes a little grumpy about doing it. The grumpiness, however, was just a part of his northern charm, and the people loved him for it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, he liked the spinal injury place. He was stoked when he got the job.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Cute. That's a cute joke about pressing yourself against somebody who can't move. And I think that's A really? That's nice. It's nice to see that you can still make poetry out of it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm just glad they were finally pulling the cord on this. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But they didn't. And that's the problem.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, Savile also had the sympathy of the Nation in 1973 because his, his mother, the Duchess, had just died and Savile had milked his mother's death by very visibly sitting with her corpse in repose for five days straight. The nation became invested in the death of the Duchess, not just because of the weirdness of the situation, but also because Jimmy Savile was one of the BBC's top personalities. By 1973, besides his rotating Top of the Pops hosting gig on television, Savile was also hosting two shows on BBC Radio 1, a travel show, Savile's Travels, and and a chat show, speakeasy. Because of Jimmy's constant presence on the airwaves, the people of England felt like they, quote unquote, knew Jimmy. By the early 70s, ironically, considering his appearance and his demeanor, Savile had become a comforting presence to the people of England, a symbol of altruism, charity and workingclass success.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They also have a na their nation of celebrating eccentrics.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes, they are. And Jimmy Savile was the gruff Yorkshire clown. He was the man who swooped in with his God given gifts of gab to, to make everything all better when someone had a problem. But while he would usually rape or abuse someone in the process of said swooping, his celebrity and reputation ensured that his crimes went unreported or uninvestigated.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think swooping encapsulates that. Swooping.

[Marcus Parks]

No, he's a swooper.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, he's a swooper, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Police all over England have been getting reports on Jimmy Savile for decades by this point, and they had done nothing. But they weren't the only ones in the UK who actively hampered any opportunity to stop Jimmy Savile. The other organization at fault here was the BBC. They'd had knowledge of Savile's crimes since Top of the pops began in 1964. They knew that Savile was a creep when they hired him for Top of the Pops. But since ratings trumped every other concern, the brass at the BBC decided to once again ignore Savile's crimes when they offered him his biggest opportunity yet. A decade after hiring him, even after seeing what Jimmy Savile was capable of, both in the halls of the BBC and out on the road in his caravan, the BBC still gave Saville his own television show, a show centered around children, no less. And they premiered that show, Jim Will fix it, on May 31, 1975. With the BBC's full support. Jim Will Fix it solidified Jimmy Savile's transition from counterculture weirdo into an older, familiar uncle like figure in British society. Which of course gave Savile even more opportunity to hide his monstrous habits in plain sight.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Swoop, there it is.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, there's another little swoop. He's a regular little flying squirrel. But this is, you know, I actually kind of wonder if it's an interior almost like from BBC, because what we'll know for after the fact, Operation U Tree. There's quite a bit pedophile activity happening at BBC all over the fucking, fucking building.

[Marcus Parks]

Very much so.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I actually wonder almost if it's a unconscious thing of a pairing him with something that'll almost be like this will almost keep him honest, that if we put him on television with all these kids, there's no way he'll continue to do whatever it was that he was doing.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't think they even thought about it at all. I really don't think they did. I think that it was just. That's a part like any sort of like pedophilia, sexual assault, anything like that

[Henry Zebrowski]

was just icky and dumb and outside the door.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, it's just a part of the culture. That's just what boys do. It didn't even factor into the types of jobs that they would give him. Because if it, if his behavior factored into the types of jobs they gave him, they wouldn't have given him a fucking travel show in which he had a rape van that was ready to be parked anywhere in England.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But the thing is, he already had the rape van and they didn't have to buy that. And I think that it does help. You know, networks love that all you

[Marcus Parks]

need is a tape recorder.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what they call, literally it's the tires model.

[Marcus Parks]

Now the concept of Jim Will Fix it was that every week Jimmy Savile would grant the wishes of children who express their deepest desires in adorable letters. Jimmy would read a letter aloud on the show, then fix the wish either in the BBC studios or on location, depending on the request.

[Henry Zebrowski]

British children always sound ancient and haunted. I don't like that show because it's all just being like this, Jimmy, please let me see the moon. And it's just like, ugh, I just put them back in the wardrobe.

[Eddie Pepitone]

How do they all look? Sicker than make a Wish kiss.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know. Oh, Jimmy, do it. I want to be a pencil. All right.

[Marcus Parks]

Put in the jibber. Well, for example, a kid might want something super simple on Jim will fix it. They might say, like, oh, I want a pet.

[Henry Zebrowski]

A camel.

[Marcus Parks]

All right? And so they take him to the zoo and he pets a camel.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You want camo? Is that what you want? That's what you like. I got a fucking pile of camels.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Unfortunately, he got a couple humps as well. Eddie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So much fun.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm doing what I can.

[Marcus Parks]

No, no, no. This ain't a camel. This is Billy the Camel. We just call him Billy the Camel. Cause he don't piss. Never.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And guess what? That's what. All he does is drunk. Yeah, certainly does.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Spit

[Henry Zebrowski]

comes out as tears. That's what the doctor said. Oh, man. How you doing? Hi there, child.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, piss off, camel.

[Marcus Parks]

Kid might want to meet a celebrity. That's super easy. You call up a celebrity, find a day he's free, and you just set up a meeting and they have a fun day together. But the wishes they could also get complicated. One time, a troop at Cub Scouts said that they wanted to eat lunch on a roller coaster. That was a very popular episode. Another time, kid got to appear as a guest star on an episode of Doctor who.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean, that's. Some of these are better than others. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eating lunch on a roller coaster is the dumbest I've ever heard.

[Marcus Parks]

It's really.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Getting a guest star on the biggest show in the BBC. That's a smart child.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Also, I really think they should change the name to Dr. Wen.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Dr. How? Whatever.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure, Eddie, sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Let him have it. He's never been. They won't let him back in in London.

[Eddie Pepitone]

They're not going to let him back.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want more blood meat.

[Marcus Parks]

Can you put more blood and make it grainy and put it in a casing and then feed it to me?

[Henry Zebrowski]

My fun. My friend would like some more blood if we could. Oh, you're so white.

[Marcus Parks]

Though there was some cool music ones like Kid got to play drums with Adam and the ants. One time they played Kings of the welcome frontier. 1. Kid got to be the guitar tech for Iron Maiden for a day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

See, it's fucking awesome.

[Marcus Parks]

That's cool.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's awesome. Didn't one of them be a hamster?

[Marcus Parks]

One of them. They want to be a rat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted to be a rat and they just sort of put him in cage. No, they just want. They dressed him as a rat and then let them Wander around the studio in total silence.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want to kill one third of the population. Wrong. This way, right this way. Come on. Right now, right now. Right, left, right. Let's go.

[Marcus Parks]

But I mean, usually the wishes were fairly low lift and the show depended mostly on the adorability of the children being filmed. But regardless of the wish, the kid would always receive a big medal at the end of the segment. That said, Jim fixed it for me and I looked on ebay and unfortunately there are no, every once in a while the Jim will fix it metal will show up on ebay. Yeah, unfortunately, the only thing I could find was a life size cardboard cutout of Jimmy Savile that was made to order that cost $180. Well, you might be shipping though.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You might be surprised what's headed towards the office.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's great. We'll put it in the bathroom.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just want to, you know what it is, you know what we should use it for, is that if anybody does like, let's say they make a mistake or something, they do. So they have to sit with the Jimmy Savile thing in the office. Yeah, they have to sit with.

[Marcus Parks]

Has to be next to their office, next to their desk for an indeterminate period of time, depending on the severity of the transgression.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Exactly.

[Marcus Parks]

Now the big difference in Jimmy's career shift was that instead of being surrounded by teenagers like he was on Top of the Pops, Jimmy Savile was now dealing almost exclusively with children. And while I know I said that Jim will fix it was not necessarily his pedophile highway. Savile, of course, couldn't help himself. There are allegations that Jimmy Savile sexually abused some of the children who appeared on his show. And there were even allegations that Jimmy Savile may have devised certain so called fixes specifically to create situations where he would have access to victims. But for the most part, Jimmy Savile usually wasn't involved in the fix unless the child specifically requested. I want Jimmy Savile to do this with me. I want to go on a roller coaster with Jimmy Savile. I want to, you know, ride in a fast car with Jimmy Savile, so on and so forth. Because even before Jimmy Savile was given the show, he had already openly and clearly said in public, I hate children. He said he hated children. In fact, Savile was the second choice as host for this program. But even though Savile regularly referred to children as brats, he recognized how good of a smokescreen a show like this could be. People could Watch. Jim will fix it and say, look, don't even like kids. Still making a time. Make him happy as a good man. We can all look up to him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Jimmy, that's exactly who I suspect. You know what I mean? I feel like it's somebody that likes kids, would want to do things for kids. When I see a guy saying how much he hates kids, but then only does is hang around kids, it's starting to make me think. I think that you want me to think that you hate kids because you kids.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I really don't like kids, but I gotta hang out with them all the time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You have to hang out with them. That's the difference.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It is the difference.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Choosing to hang out with the monetized in a way, at his work. I don't like children, but I also. I just. But it's not. I don't hate children. I'm.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm fine with children.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm fine with children.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Fine with children.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Yeah, kids are great. I worked at a daycare for a little while in college.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I'm fine with kids. I just don't like them when I'm on vacation or when I'm at the gym. Sure, yeah, but we're like when I'm places.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, they're like cops. It's just better when they're not around.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, but it's good to know that they're there.

[Marcus Parks]

But as Jimmy Savile very unfortunately almost always was, he was completely correct in his assumption. Jim Will Fix it was incredibly popular and the show went on to become a successful staple of British pop culture for almost 20 years. But as Savile was often fond of doing, he left clues concerning his true intent and motivation. In the title sequence of Jim Will Fix It, Savile led a train of children in the style of the Pied Piper. This, of course, was a reference to the old fable involving a rat catcher who lured children away from their village and their parents with his magical flute. And those children, of course, were never seen again.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I probably call it a little piccolo.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Call a little piccolo.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. No, I don't think he's got that long of a penis.

[Marcus Parks]

No, he does not. No, he had, I think famously a very small and extraordinarily smelly penis, which was smelly on purpose.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank you.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That rat child didn't have a chance.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, man, no. So I was looking right here. Kids say the Darndest Things by Bill cosby started in 1997. So maybe it was sort of even kind of like it took a while, I guess.

[Marcus Parks]

And that is, you know, and that's the incredible thing, is that both Bill Cosby and Jimmy Savile had shows that depended on kids just being adorable.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I got my eye on you, Jeff Foxworthy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We all know he's smarter than a bit.

[Marcus Parks]

You might be a pedophile now. While Jim Will Fix it was not his main pipeline for victims, Savile certainly invited his pedophile friends around to play whenever he could. Novelty musician Rolf Harris, often called the Jimmy Savile of Australia, appeared on an episode of Jim Will fix it in 1976. That was the guy who wrote Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that was the one where he gives the kid over to the pain. He gives him over to her, right? And he's like, oh, thank God you're giving me this kid to have in my hands. I can't believe you're giving me this kid. And Jimmy Savile's like, it'll only happen here when I can give them to you.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. The infamous Gary Glitter also made several appearances on Jim.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He really just loved them.

[Marcus Parks]

But perhaps the greatest villain to ever appear on Jim Will Fix it was a woman who in 1976, was already campaigning for the spot of Prime Minister as the leader of Britain's Conservative Party, although she would not make prime minister until 1980. See, it may not surprise you to find out that Jimmy Savile was a staunch Conservative, and he had completely fallen for this particular woman's politics after he saw her speak at a young Conservative conference. That woman was the great villain of 1980s England, the UK's Ronald Reagan. I'm speaking, of course, about Margaret Thatcher.

[Eddie Pepitone]

No, she was actually a better actor than Reagan.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She honestly was an interesting watch. I will say, truly, I had no. Like, I've always heard about Margaret Thatcher, and I kind of like, it was at a time where, like, especially now, I'm trying to be more abreast of what's happening in the world and in history. And I finally watched Margaret Thatcher, like, I watched her talk. And she really is a dynamic speaker. Very much so. She was a dynamic speaker. But what an evil fucking. Yeah, like. Like, I didn't fully understand how directly evil. Yeah, she was.

[Marcus Parks]

And gleefully evil.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Very much so. And I feel like it all like, Jimmy Savile just saw a counterpart.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I mean, at least Ronald Reagan tried to hide his evil folksiness and charm and all that, because he has to. He's American. But, yeah, man, the British, when Margaret Thatcher came along, just fucking wanted to be as cruel and cold as possible.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Has that absolutely wonderful aristocratic voice.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

As she comes in, she redo the filth the easiest way possible with a huge horse like teeth. Iron pants.

[Marcus Parks]

Let me cross your wires a little bit. Did you see Gillian Anderson's portrayal of Margaret Thatcher in the Crown?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, but I. Because I know you have me.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I know you have a thing for Gillian Anderson.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, of course, but Gillian Anderson, she can do that. But. Yeah. And if she wanted to do that, like, in my home with me, like, that would be fine, you know, I mean, if she wanted to act like Margaret Thatcher and then I'd be like a corgi. Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

If she came into your home and did that, they'd have to call that show the Frown.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She came in and was just so. It's Tom to have a treat. It's Tom. I'm a chuff that I have more corgis, and I come and wagging my little tail and then she puts peanut butter all over her.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay, so you're kind of. You're crossing the streams a little bit with the Queen and Thatcher.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know what she had. I don't know what pet she had or what she butler.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I. I watched the Iron lady just to learn a little bit about Margaret Thatcher for this.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And what a pointless movie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, utterly pointless.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Just her, like, hallucinating her dead husband and was like, there's hardly any politics in this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, that's the idea. It was trying to. Trying to get behind the politics. Get to the woman, Eddie. Get to the body. Get her body. Get under the clothes. No, I'm saying they were trying to get in there.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You're trying to make her Margaret Snatcher.

[Henry Zebrowski]

My vagina was born smooth as an ink.

[Marcus Parks]

The one thing that people don't know about me is I actually have a cloac.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Did you know there's one hoe. I don't need two hoes. I have one. Oh. In order to evacuate my bowls. This is great. This is fun. This I love accent work, man. All this.

[Doug Stanhope]

And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, everyone. Check out this guy in his bird. What is this, your first date? Oh, no.

[Doug Stanhope]

We help people customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual together. We're married.

[Marcus Parks]

Me to a human, him to a bird.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

[Doug Stanhope]

Anyways, only pay for what you [e-mail].

[Henry Zebrowski]

liberty, Liberty, Liberty, Liberty. Fly from Your grave. No.

[Marcus Parks]

Jimmy Savile saw Margaret Thatcher speak at the Young Conservative Conference. He made a big show of clearing the way so Thatcher could go to bed after her speech that night. Clear the way, Clear the way. Important woman coming through.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And if there's something that reminds me to this day of conservatives, of this idea of like, he did that he like went out of his way to do this sort of like public thing for me.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh yeah. Well, at their core, all, you know, most conservatives are submissives. Like they're subs. They, they, they love, like, especially the leaders. They love when people show deference to them, when, when people, Brown knows them, when they kiss their ass, like, and they, and in turn the underlings love to show deference to people in position of authority. That's what it's all about. It's all about submission. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah. They're like a big old daddy, her fucking big old cunning mommy. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, this impressive display of Brown nosing endeared Savile to Margaret Thatcher. So she agreed to do an interview with Jimmy Savile on his BBC radio talk show, Speakeasy. The two of them got along like a house on fire. And thereafter they began a long and close friendship that lasted for decades. After Speakeasy, Jimmy Savile hosted a visit to Stoke Mandeville with Margaret Thatcher. Of course, this was one of the hospitals where Jimmy Savile regularly assaulted patients who were paralyzed, underage or both. But Margaret Thatcher had a grand time hanging out with Jimmy Savile and she soon after appeared on Jim Will Fix it in a joke segment where she asked Savile to fix it so she could become Prime Minister.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, that's simply the living end

[Marcus Parks]

now. Sava was of course not the deciding factor in Margaret Thatcher becoming Prime Minister. Nor was he fully responsible for Margaret Thatcher's 11 year reign in which she reshaped England into a cold, cruel image of herself. He did, however, help Thatcher in her rise to power. And while this certainly gave Savile even more protection than he already had, he also came to play an important role in the public perception of Margaret Thatcher's administration as the years went by. Csavo was the supposed working class man. He's the former coal mine and bevin boy. And even though Thatcher's policies were straight up hateful toward the working poor of Britain and particularly hateful towards coal miners, oh yes, she could always bring Jimmy Savile around to tell the people of Great Britain they're suffering was actually a good thing and they might even deserve it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And he was barely even anything but a presenter his whole fucking life. Yeah, he never had a. Yeah, he worked a working class job then, but he'd been a fucking TV presenter for like 30 years at this point.

[Marcus Parks]

And before that he was a fucking criminal.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, you're just like, not. You're not the working class man, which is another thing we're seeing. It's just, it's grifters working with grifters.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Didn't they actually fire Margaret Thatcher from being Prime Minister?

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, that happens all the time. I mean, they've had how many Prime Ministers in the last eight months? 12.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's a good point.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Her tits quit. That was the main thing. Their tits quit first. She was like. They were like, we are out of here.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, not Elizabeth, her early. Hers won't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, additionally, Jimmy Savile's charity work could be used by Margaret Thatcher as an example of why the government didn't need to help its people. Thatcher's views, you see, were very closely aligned with the fuck you, I got mine attitude that we see in today's politics. In fact, Margaret Thatcher is one of the authors of that particular doctrine. But according to Margaret Thatcher, you didn't really need to worry about the government coming in to help you. You didn't need to depend on the government for anything because private citizens like my good friend Jimmy Savile. Yeah, he's always there to help and he told you can depend on Jimmy Savile.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's fascinating because it all works hand in hand. It's like they all were working together in this, like, perfect way of creating this, this environment of, of essentially every single human beings on their own.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And he's right there, like. He's right there, like, being like. Yep. Because he already got his too.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. Of course, now every single human being's on their own. And it, that's, it's the sort of like, divide and conquer thing. Because if, if you make every single human being on their own, they are very easy to control and very easy

[Henry Zebrowski]

to rule because they don't want to get together. Yeah, you're. We're basically telling them that there's no point to all of you getting together.

[Marcus Parks]

Exactly. Yeah. No, it's. It's all about control. Because with Jimmy Savile, even he benefits from that sort of system where everyone's on their own. Because if you're on your own, there ain't nobody there to protect you. And Jimmy Savile can swoop in and fuck you up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah. And then the lower class you are. And the lower of whatever the rung it is, like whatever caste is, the even more subject to whatever the upper classes that they want to do to you is all completely considered. That's the pecking order. Yeah, that's what happens. So you have slid to the bottom, unfortunately. Which means I get to rape all of you with impunity.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Anyone with power he cozied up to, of course.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, because he couldn't rape them. Like literally. Because he couldn't do the other. Yeah, he had to, he had to do. He had to become the, the, the sycophant and the mirror to them in order for them to feel okay with him being around.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah. Because if I'm friends with you, I can't do that horrible thing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. But also because I. Because I don't do horrible things because I'm friends with you.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. I mean everybody, every single person in Jimmy's the Jimmy Savile came into contact with. His first question was always, how can I use this person? And if he couldn't use them, then he had no use. Then he wouldn't be around them, he wouldn't, he wouldn't bring them into his inner circle.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that's why could. Fletcher loved him because she was there to use him. Yep.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, the great irony here is that Jimmy Savile, the so called altruistic private citizen, was effectively acting as the boogeyman of the British Government's National Health Services.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And he said, because they already have a lot of other boogeymen, like cancer and like, like so many other things are. The boogeyman of the zema was a

[Marcus Parks]

big one at the time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, polio, like all these things, those are the real. That's what you'd think would be the main enemy of the hospital.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Mouth jaundice.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, big one. Kids hate mouth jaundice.

[Marcus Parks]

And this of course was while Margaret Thatcher was using Jimmy Savile as an example of how the British were perfectly capable of taking care of each other without governmental help. See, by the mid-1970s, Jimmy Savile had become a recurring nightmare within the NHS system. A monster who could appear at any moment to sexually abuse and psychologically destroy any young girl in the NHS's care. For example, in 1977, a 12 year old girl was sent to Stoke Mandeville Hospital for the simple procedure of having her tonsils removed. No spinal injuries, no debilitating conditions, just routine surgery. Because the spinal cord part of the house, that was just part of Stoke Mandeville. But Stoke Mandeville is like a massive hospital.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's a huge complex.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it's a big complex. I think it's Birmingham. But after the procedure, the girl was put in the geriatric ward because the children's ward was full. And that's where Jimmy Savile, at 51 years old, found her. Alone and vulnerable, draped in gold chains, dressed in a tracksuit and chomping on his trademark cigar. Jimmy Savile approached the 12 year old and positioned himself between her legs without saying a word. Later, the girl said that Savile had a distinctive muggy odor as he approached. And the smell only got worse when he pulled down his track pants. Sal then raped the girl and ejaculated on her thighs within moments. He then wiped up his semen and left all completely silent, except for a few grunts and moans, as if the girl were simply an object that existed solely for his pleasure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Marcus, that was gross.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I hate you.

[Marcus Parks]

It's fine, it's fine. I understand, I understand. If I were to read those two paragraphs and someone were to look at me and say, marcus, I love you, I'd say, never talk to me ever again.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I hate to break the, like, the mystery of what we do here, but, like, Marcus sends us his scripts and he puts the little breaks in there for when he wants us to, like, yell at him. And he put one there and it's

[Henry Zebrowski]

just like, no, I got nothing to say. I got nothing to fucking say to that.

[Marcus Parks]

It's a suggestion for if you might want to say something.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Goo, goo, goo. Gh.

[Marcus Parks]

I didn't think that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Is that good. You want me to. Goes the goo.

[Marcus Parks]

I thought that perhaps someone might want to comment on the smell of his penis and how he had purposefully made his groin smell horrible in order to make things that much worse for his victims. Or at least that's my personal theory.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I mean, you know, and I just make my smell for me.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You were wrong.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm my own victim.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, it's not over.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, I know.

[Marcus Parks]

The story is not over.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, no. It's only good. It continues to get worse.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yep.

[Marcus Parks]

And when the staff came around to check on the girl who just had her tonsils out, she immediately told them that one of the porters had hurt her and pointed to her groin. This girl had no idea who Jimmy Savile was. She just knew that someone on the staff had done something wrong. But the staff member knew exactly who the girl was talking about when she said that a porter hurt her and therefore she told the girl to not say anything about it, because if she did, the staff member might get into trouble. Not the man who did the crime, but the staff member. And while that's certainly bad enough, it wasn't the end of it. Hours later, Savile returned to the 12 year old girl. And after she pulled her sheets over her head in fear, Savile again wordlessly reached under the sheets and penetrated the girl's vagina with his fingers. Then again, just walked away, didn't say a word. The girl then watched as Savile walked to the bed of an unconscious elderly woman. They're in the geriatric ward after all. And there Savile climbed on top and laid over the old woman's body. And at that point a nurse walked in and told Jimmy that he shouldn't be in there. Like Savile was a child. She was just shooing out of the kitchen, Jimmy, you know you're not supposed to be in here.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sorry.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Seemingly very used to this sort of situation, Savile just popped off the old lady and walked away. And the girl only recognized her rapist sometime later when she saw Jimmy Savile on the BBC.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And unfortunately, that was the first time anybody ever planked. And it's another horrific thing that now we see the, the seedy beginnings of what would be considered to be an innocent fad.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, Jim, culture can really get upsetting.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah. Jimmy Savile culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Now this story makes it sound like the staff at these hospitals were fully complicit in Jimmy Savile's crimes. But it was far more complicated than that. Staff raised concerns about Jimmy Savile to their superiors again and again over the decades. But their concerns were always, always, always just waved away.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Jimmy Savile's very presence put the entire place in jeopardy. Yeah, and it's. There was, it was, it's almost like, like it kind of feels like a ghost, like an evil entity arrives. And yes, they all know that it's there, but they know to extricate him would bring the whole fucking hospital down

[Eddie Pepitone]

because they would make no money. Yeah, no, only one bringing the money.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Dude, it's not even that.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's just like your fundraiser is Skeletor.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, but there are other fundraisers. It's the fact that you let him in, he just is now in. No one's correcting him because nobody want. Everybody's afraid. And then once you're past that first lip of, of all of these, like, things that he's doing, you're now culpable.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, you're culpable. I mean, the way I see it is like, Jimmy Savile became almost like a workplace hazard. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Cancer.

[Marcus Parks]

It was something that people had to deal with, you know, and it's almost like the entire. Like an entire hospital is just full as full of asbestos. And you got to do your best to not let the asbestos into the lungs of the patients, but it's going to get in there. But if you get rid of the asbestos, you have to get rid of the whole fucking hospital.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, exactly. You'd have to break. You literally have to, like, detonate the hospital.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Also, it's just like when you. When you say something, you're like, oh, you've been seeing this for years. Why are you just saying something now?

[Marcus Parks]

Exact thing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Exactly. You know, he knew exactly what he was doing. He knew exactly what to do.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. But the authorities told the staff and told themselves that since Jimmy Savile was so high profile, he must be okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He has to be okay.

[Marcus Parks]

There's no way that this guy's doing anything irregular. So it would be best if the staff just forgot about whatever it was that they thought they saw. As such. As I said, the staff at Stoke Mandeville had to treat Jimmy Savile as a work hazard even when they themselves became patients. One nurse, recovering from her own spinal surgery, for example, told another nurse that if she saw Jimmy Savile come anywhere near her during her recovery, she'd, quote, scream the place down. The other nurse, however, just shrugged at this comment and walked away, because everyone at Stoke Mandeville believed that there was nothing they could do about Jimmy Savile besides endure. And of course, do their best to protect patients however they could. And Stoke Mandeville's fucking huge, you know,

[Henry Zebrowski]

so it's like Cedar Sinai. Yeah, it's huge. And remember, multiple buildings.

[Eddie Pepitone]

There's a huge campus. It's gigantic. It's like a college.

[Marcus Parks]

And he has keys and he can show up anytime he wants. You may not. You may not. Like, that's the thing. Jimmy Savile might be on the. In the hospital for a week and you might never see him.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He has, like, an office and an apartment and a rape van.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Like, it is like, there's multiple places for him to go and abuse people.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's all over the place. And all you have to do to get yourself completely not involved at all is just to not look. And I think that's a part of it. Is that it's so fucking big and bad and it's just. It's this thing you don't want to look under. You don't want to look under that lid because the second you pop the lid, all of this shit comes out of it.

[Marcus Parks]

And Savile didn't keep his molestations to just the hospital rooms, nor his office, nor his caravan. One girl said that Savile groped her repeatedly over a three year period in a little room within the hospital's chapel because that's where the girl attended mass starting at the age of seven. She said that Salvo would leave the door where he committed his crimes open during the molestation, specifically so he could watch the priest lead services while he assaulted child after child.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The equivalent of bringing your phone to a restaurant to watch a football game while you're with your family. Is that one of those where you just want or just that you go, keep like. You go like fiddle, fiddle, then look up the priest and he goes, hey. Doesn't give you the thumbs up.

[Marcus Parks]

I think he wanted to make it as evil as possible.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Like that's what it was. He wanted to be evil and he wanted the kid. And I think he also got off on wanting the kid to feel as powerless as possible.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'll reap you in the house of God.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And I'll do it while staring at a priest. And that's how powerful I am.

[Henry Zebrowski]

God doesn't exist because he'd kill me if he did.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. And that also scares the kids so much that they don't tell anybody about what happened.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, it's extremely powerful.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Now, as you can tell, just so long as Jimmy Savile stayed in the United Kingdom, he was pretty much allowed to be a menace wherever he went. And the worst consequences he would ever face were to be chased off like he was just some naughty teenager. In 1978, Jimmy Savile was thrown off a cruise ship after the captain got a complaint that Savile had definitely molested a 14 year old girl, had lured several other children into his cabin with the promise of an autograph before exposing himself. And Savile had literally chased another teen around the ship as if he was starring in his own horror movies. And trust me when I say that these stories that I'm telling here, this is just a small sample of the countless crimes that Jimmy Savile committed throughout the decades.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I would say that he's the kind of guy that could commit 10 felonies a day and not even kind of Acknowledge that that's what he was doing. Obviously, I think that he was like. He was raping on like. Like on mass. It was compulsion and it was 24 7. Like it was anywhere he was. And he was doing it all the time. I think we're looking at least a thousand plus.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. If not more.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know, where that doesn't happen. Crime wave at sea.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Right. And that's why you want to go to [e-mail] last, because we'll make sure the only people we're chasing around are mature mothers. All right? So if you're. Just know that. Just know that we are. We're milk wolfs only over here we're

[Eddie Pepitone]

talking two pound clits.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, that's what I like to see. Yeah. Jimmy Savile had a. He called them walnuts. Ah, clitorises.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, wow, Great.

[Marcus Parks]

Thanks.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank you. Oh, wow. Wow. Another happy moment gone.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Trying to have fun

[Henry Zebrowski]

for a second.

[Marcus Parks]

And it was specifically the clitorises of women older than then. Then the age of 25. He called them walnuts. Walnuts. Because he thought that any woman over the age of 25 was kind of gross.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'll shut the up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, fine. I call them tadpoles. Who's worse? Who's the worst person? I don't know.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, Jimmy Savile, ever the man to constantly throw people off his trail, published a book about faith in 1979 called God Will Fix It. God Will Fix It. In this book, he compared himself to mlk, Gandhi and Jesus Christ.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's closer to Gandhi than anybody.

[Marcus Parks]

True, very true. Savile claim that like those men, he was also vilified for the good work that he did and people believed him when he said this shit. But in this book, Savile also explained his belief system, which I think tells you a lot about Jimmy Savile's psychology. See, in Savile's mind, God worked on a credit debt system. Savile believed that if he did enough charity work, it would balance out the ledger with God. The good would outweigh the bad, and he would therefore be allowed into heaven after he died. No matter how much bad he did, as long as he did enough charity, it was all going to be fine. And personally, I think this is why Jimmy Savile constantly said that he couldn't wait to die. I think that Savile fucking hated the charity work. He hated children and he hated doing good things for others. But in his. His Catholic brain, Savile believed that he had to do those things to make up for all of the horrible that he did. But since Jimmy Savile was inherently evil, he continually used charity to commit even larger crimes on an increasingly larger scale. This necessitated more good works, which only created more misery. So in the end, I think Jimmy Savile wanted to die because he wanted to break free from a cycle that was exhausting and torturous. And for Jimmy Savile, while never once considering the misery he visited upon others,

[Henry Zebrowski]

he felt that society. I completely agree with you, Marcus. He was above society. Like, he kind of believed that all of society. He was such a full on irredeemable narcissist that he really just believed society was there for him.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that these guys are like. And that's why it was such a task to be saddled with all of this responsibility of being this ubermensch that is past all of us, that understands things better than all of us. And this is just so much weight. And that's the reason why he was so happy to die.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's interesting because a part of me thinks that he did like it, you know, because he never turned it off. You know, if he was at a restaurant, no, it was someone's birthday, he would go sing for them and stuff like that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was a cat. But I could, as a former Catholic, still, no matter what is in their Catholic, no matter what I can do when. How much I can ch it out. The penance cycle is so crucial to that idea. I can literally just be him being like, in. Because, like, I got really into the idea of like Emmanuel K. Like I got into in college, this idea that only true D good deed is one done against your will. Right. That you. Normally people do good deeds because it makes them feel good. So it's essentially a selfish thing. An only truly good deed would be done against your very will itself. And I can see in his own brain that's how he equates it all being like, if I'm miserable doing this, then that means I'm good and that afterwards I can do whatever I want.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Do you think he prayed?

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. Yeah, I think he prayed constantly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think he was the only one who thought that he. I think he thought he was the only person that could talk directly to God.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. And I think that there is a Catholic priest out there. There was a string of Catholic priests out there who were just privy to the worst shit. I think he confessed everything that he did to a. To priests at one point or another.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And they just absolved them and they kept him going because like, you remember that one guy, we. We cut it out of the last script, but we talked a little bit about that pastor, that priest he was working with.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And there's like a whole nick, nobody knows what happened. That guy. But there was a guy, there was a priest around him for a while.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. And then you look and there was a picture of him and a priest, and the priest is looking at him like you look at your best friend.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

You know, like you look at, like, somebody that you absolutely love, adore and admire.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, he got, like, high honors from the Vatican.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, he got a papal knighthood from the fucking Vatican, which is, of course, you know, stripped away after he d died, but, yeah, he still got it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know, you strip it away, you still gave it to him.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

So you still suck.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, there were some people who were trying to speak openly about Jimmy Savile's crimes in the late 1970s, but those voices were unfortunately not the type the average British citizen would listen to. Famously, Johnny Rotten, lead singer of the Sex Pistols, gave an embarrassingly edgy interview to the BBC in 1978, the same year the Sex Pistols broke up, in which Rotten claimed that he wanted to make a film killing all the people he wanted to kill, starting with Mick Jagger.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Brad, he's so edgy.

[Marcus Parks]

It's the. The interview. I didn't want to play it because I didn't want people to think less, even less, of Johnny Rotten because he sounds like a. Yeah, he sounds like

[Henry Zebrowski]

a teenage, like, boy. It's awful.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, he was. He was, you know, he was probably 21, something like that, when he did the interview.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He's also somehow the hero of this story.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, sort of, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, interestingly, the second person on Rotten's cringy kill list was Jimmy Savile, because according to Johnny Rotten, Savile was a hypocrite with, quote, all sorts of seedy rumors surrounding him. Now, there's a lot of debate as to whether the interview actually aired or not. Some people said it did, some people said it didn't. And Johnny Rotten was not ever specific with what those seedy rumors were about. They just said he was seed. But it is a fact that Rotten statements about Jimmy Savile did get him banned from the BBC for a very long time. Rotten's ban did not go unnoticed in the example the BBC made of the former Sex Pistol produced a chilling effect when it came to other people in the entertainment industry. Openly talking about Jimmy Savile's crimes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think it's because we're gonna end up finding out that BBC had a lot more other pedophiles in the building besides just him. And it was a whole thing.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. They did not want any investigative bodies to come looking around.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

The whole thing's built on a lie. Naming themselves BBC.

[Marcus Parks]

Right. Because that there aren't any big black cocks.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what it's talking about, big black cocks.

[Marcus Parks]

Right. Those are BBCs. Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And there's none there.

[Marcus Parks]

True.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Big black.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, Johnny Rotten speculated during the interview that his comments about Jimmy Salvo would probably be cut. And Rotten had every reason to believe that they would be. That's because by 1978, Jimmy Savile was not only one of the biggest stars on the BBC, Savile was also already heavily involved with the British Royal family. Now, as far as how Jimmy got connected to the Royals, his most frequent one off charity stunts involved competitions in cycling and foot races. Because Jimmy Savile was addicted to exercise.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Do you know, I got a really good anecdote from a friend of the show, comedian Eleanor Morton, who's a Scottish comedian that talked about her mom would go to a couple of these races. It was so often that Jimmy Saville would start the race, get off to a area van, would pull up, he'd get in their van, they'd drive all the way to the end, drop him off. And it was just like. That was so obvious. It was so obvious. And he very obviously was doing it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Because he always looked fine at the end of the race.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Not wet.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. You can't run an entire race with a cigar hanging out of your mouth, no matter what Jimmy Savile wanted you to believe.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[Marcus Parks]

But Savile also engaged in competitions involving endurance marches with the Royal Marines. And it was through the Royal Marines that Jimmy Savile met the Royal family. Or as Jimmy Savile cheekily liked to call them, the Firm.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Certainly don't look that way.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, they are. I definitely call them the runny, the flab, the puddles. People say we puddle around, you know, I do find he was the only one who called him the Firm.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, he was.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But it's a great name. But I will say it's a great nickname for the Royal Family.

[Marcus Parks]

It is. Well, through the Royal Marines, Jimmy Savile became good friends with Lord Louis Mountbatten, Admiral of the Fleet, who became Savile's bridge to such powerful figures as Prince Philip and the former Prince Charles Because Mountbatten was sort of a father figure to both men. He was Prince Philip's uncle. Savile would offer few hard facts when it came to his relationship with Lord Mountbatten. When pressed, Savile would ramble convoluted stories about how he had taught Mountbatten how to, quote, quote, navigate public relations, which, according to Savile, gained him entry into the British establishment's innermost circles. Savile claimed that he had taken an oath of omerta silence when it came to the Royal family and that his success with the royals throughout the decades came down to him, quote, minding his own business. In reality, though, Jimmy Savile got on with Lord Louis Mountbatten because Mountbatten was the Royal Family's most dangerous sexual predator until the arrival of England's sweatiest royal Prince Andrew, formerly known as.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I thought he was gonna be a good guy finally.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Now, Lord Mountbatten is another example of, like, I don't know if, like, how do we put this? There's obviously when I think of the Royal family, all I think about is inbred predators, right? Like, but I know that they're not all that. Some of them are just more slack jawed, you know, yokels, essentially, literally

[Marcus Parks]

a bunch of hog. Honkies.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, a bunch of honkies.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's exactly what they are.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like when I look at like, to me, like the ultimate examples, like, now we're looking at the princes now, right? We got Prince Andrew, the other one,

[Marcus Parks]

the, the boys, Harry and what's his name, the other.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Who cares? Who cares? They'll be dead soon. They'll all be dead. It doesn't matter. It's gonna be over. And they're both are like that. They were doing the thing that we did last week with all the,

[Marcus Parks]

well, the one who's actually Prince Charles's son or King Charles's son, he's the one who has. How wonderful. The other one who's actually his father is actually a redheaded tennis player. Yeah, he's looking good.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's doing great. Yeah, he's doing great. But you know, there's something about. I wonder how I'm not going to be like, they're all pedophiles. They're all

[Marcus Parks]

stupid and reductive. And it's incredibly unhelpful when people say, like, everybody's a pedophile. It's so stupid.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It really is. But, like, my question is, I wonder what the actual percentage is of interpretation of people that have done this type of activity. Not Just, I'm just talking about rape and all this kind of.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I were to guess, like, this is me being like, really concerned. I would say 15% sure.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm definitely going to guess that it's, you know, I would think there's probably a bell curve when it comes to pedophilia. The extremely poor and the extremely rich probably commit pedophilia and sex crimes at far higher rates than everyone in the middle.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I love that middle ass. That's why I'm just. I sit right in the middle man right

[Marcus Parks]

now. Much like Jimmy Savile, Lord Mountbatten was considered to be a British national treasure. He was a war hero, a naval leader and a major political player. Some even considered Mountbatten to be the true power behind the throne. He was the one who supposedly told Queen Elizabeth what to do.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Put the crown on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What a fabulous idea. I've mostly been using it on my bottom. What a wonderful impression.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, Mountbatten counseled many members of the royal family, specifically Prince Philip, that's Queen Elizabeth's husband, and Prince Philip's son, the current King Charles. Through Mountbatten, Jimmy Savile formed close relationships with both Philip and Charles. And those relationships would continue until Jimmy Savile's death decades later. It was from the 70s to the 2000s, or actually more like the 60s, but he became particularly close in the 70s. And when Mountbatten met Jimmy Savile in the 1960s, the two of them had an immediate rapport, which Savile described as a, quote, attraction of opposites. Savile was the working class clown, while Mountbatten had no less than 12 noble or military titles to his name. Before long, Mountbatten was asking Jimmy Savile to give speeches in his his stead during official events where Savile would speak and joke and make everyone laugh. And Mountbatten, all he'd have to do is cut the ribbon. Take a couple pictures.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Either that is quite difficult for me to do due to the tensile strength

[Doug Stanhope]

of the fabric itself.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Someone needs to help me. How do I cut this ribbon? How do I do it with my hands?

[Marcus Parks]

Ribbon made out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bring me a child.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, Salville took the call on Mountbatten, the governor, while Mountbatten very ominously referred to Savile as the fixer. Now, this could have been a reference to Jim will fix it, but Lord Mountbatten did indeed have quite a bit to fix. Like Savile, Mountbatten had a ravenous sexual appetite for both sexes and all ages, although Mountbatten certainly leaned Closer to the boys than Jimmy Savile.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Traction of opposites.

[Marcus Parks]

He likes boys and I like girls.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That would have Paul Abdul song. Also, I will say the. In terms of royal nicknames for themselves and others, they are particularly very corny.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And if you look at just like. Because like the email that Prince Andrew sends to Epstein, if you look at his sense of humor, if it's anything like Mountbatten, I can definitely see the fixer thing being like, not a. He'd be like, they think it's clever. They think it's like I call him that because of his show, but actually it is because he helps me cover up my pedophilia and it's just like, yeah, we know.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, we understand.

[Doug Stanhope]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Doug Stanhope]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

[Doug Stanhope]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

Well, according to Mountbatten's biographer, his home was quote awash with young, good looking naval ratings bustling about the place with no apparent purpose. And Mountbatten's gay friends affectionately referred to him as. This is nice. Mount Bottom.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's when someone comes and pushes the pudding.

[Marcus Parks]

Here comes Mount Bottom.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hello, Sam. Everybody start whittling my tiddlywinks. I'm waiting.

[Marcus Parks]

There's nothing wrong with being secretly gay or bisexual or what have you.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just want him to be gay. All I want from them is to be normal gay.

[Marcus Parks]

It would have been super fun. We could have got a whole other Netflix show out of that. But Mountbatten Secrets were far worse than simply mounting the bottoms of various consenting British sailors.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Technically, that's something to brag about. You wouldn't believe how much dick I can take. You would not even Believe how many meters, 29 kilometers of pure sailor penis has run through this royal linnity, and everyone be like, amazing.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow. Great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Didn't, like, all of, like, the famously gay Brits, didn't they, like, kind of, like, castrate them chemically, like, for a long time?

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what they did with the guy, the scientist guy. That Benedict Cumberbatch game. Yeah, there was some of that, but,

[Eddie Pepitone]

yeah, like, the pedophiles, they do nothing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, that's just, you know, that's just boys being boys. That's another way of the British being boys.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'll tell you what, those little girls knew exactly what they were doing with their pigtails. Perfect little handles for blowtorbs. I know what they're doing.

[Marcus Parks]

Alan something.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There we go.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Turning. Alan Turing.

[Marcus Parks]

Alan Turing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Alan Turing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Marcus Parks]

We see we got there together. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Couples come buckets of ass.

[Marcus Parks]

As far as Mountbatten's crimes went, in the 1919s, Mountbatten's driver was paid a fair amount of hush money to help conceal Lord Mountbatten's insatiable thirst for children. Aged eight to 12, Mountbatten would knock them out with lemonade and brandy and then dress them up in baby girl outfits before raping them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's really embarrassing.

[Eddie Pepitone]

So when they got to 13, he was, like, too old?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I mean, he. 8 to 12. I mean, that's the thing. He. He raped enough children where he developed a taste because he developed a specific, like, I like him seven. Too young. Thirteen. Too old. Eight to 12. Sweet spot.

[Eddie Pepitone]

God, that's a lot of times.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it is.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It really is.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm letting it sit here.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Is that why you're wearing the hat for seven?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no, no. Keep safe.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, with Lord Mountbatten, if it was just the driver making these claims, if you just had one guy saying, like, oh, yeah, he. He. Like kids, you might chalk it up to homophobia. Happens all the time. But another source said that Mountbatten raped a Burmese boy in the back of a packed cargo plane in Sri Lanka. That same source said that Mountbatten preferred high class, properly educated young boys, and he did everything he could to procure more victims. Any source, using any means at his disposal, just as Jimmy Savile did. But as it turns out, Lord Mountbatten's eventual death in 1979 may have had quite a bit to do with where Mountbatten sourced most of his victims in his later years. Because it seems like Mountbatten may have learned a thing or two from Jimmy

[Henry Zebrowski]

Savile pedophiles exchange information and change the way they do things. According to other pedophiles. It is completely true. There was another example of this that they saw in like this is. This is, this is a side quest that shows exactly what I'm talking about.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. See, Lord Mountbatten was a massive enemy to Ireland, especially during the so called troubles concerning the constitutional status of Northern Ireland. Mountbatten was therefore stationed in Northern Ireland during the 1970s. And like Saville had done with the hospitals, Lord Mountbatten seemed to have stopped with the upper class British boys in favor of turning Northern Ireland into his own so called sweet shop.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is where it would have been super crucial if leprechauns were real. Yeah. Because then he could have just had at them because they're guys.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, but the thing is that the

[Eddie Pepitone]

leprechaun has to agree to it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And dwarves exist. It's not like people that are leprechaun sized don't exist. They do.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I appreciate you thinking that that was going to be nice.

[Marcus Parks]

I do that. I do appreciate it as well.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Just. Yeah, you're trying. I mean you're really stupid, but you're trying.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But just imagine how just better it

[Marcus Parks]

would have been if there were magical being little guys.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, magical little guys.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. No, they're like.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, I get there being like, where's my gold? Oh, psychedic.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like how nice would it be, little gay leprechaun.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, no, the magic is important.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, you have a shisha lay, huh? I heard you're about a bit of a bottom. Here I come. Oh, I'm looking for my gold. Oh, found the brown gold.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, that's why, that's why, you know, rainbow is a gay thing and the pot of gold is all the money that the gay bars make.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, it's not we ho.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Well, according to author Robin Bryans, Mountbatten was a central part of a pedophile network that allegedly kidnapped Irish boys from Kinkura Boys Home in Belfast for use in orgies at Mountbatten's castle throughout the 1970s. These accounts were confirmed by survivors who, like the little girl at Stoke Mandeville, only learned that a famous British establishment figure had abused them after seeing Mountbatten on the news. The difference here though is that the news story seen by Mountbatten's victims was the story reporting Mountbatten's fiery and deserving death.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is awesome.

[Marcus Parks]

At the hands of the ira.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly, this is. This is pretty awesome.

[Marcus Parks]

This is actually really fun. See Lord Mountbatten had been a target of the IRA for several years and had already survived at least one attempt on his life.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They put a grenade inside of the bottom of a little boy and it was simply too resistible. And I just said, should I pull the pin? Should I not pull the pin? I had him executed.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, there is some suspicion that the IRA had full knowledge of Mountbatten's abuse at the boys homes in Belfast.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh yeah, they did. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

It's said by some that the abuse was a big factor as to why they chose to assassinate Lord B. Latin. But the IRA actually had a lot of reasons to kill.

[Eddie Pepitone]

They kill him for fun.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. But it was old. But that one makes it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Extra sweet.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And we're not going to go into all those reasons lest we fall into the Troubles ourselves. I want read an amazing Irish book right now called the Third Policeman. I. I would recommend it to anybody. I'm having a great time with it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I actually was reading this great book. It's like an alternate history book about the Troubles, but it's got all the Teletubbies in it. It's called the 12th.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I can go for a gay lick myself.

[Marcus Parks]

Great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Disgusting.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Un.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Believable. Unbelievable. Who should be in free speech? Who should be in there? It shouldn't be me.

[Marcus Parks]

I mentioned Flann o' Brien and you're giving me Teletubbies and you're giving me gay puns.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I can't wait.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Let's see how this guy was blown to death. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

For the purposes of this story, just know that it was indeed the IRA who put Mountbatten down on August 27, 1979. That morning, Mountbatten took some family and friends out on his boat in Northern Ireland to check on some lobster pots that they'd placed the day before. Unbeknownst to Mountbatten, the IRA had filled those pots with 50 pounds of explosives overnight. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Let's go through these because I tried to get rid of the girls. Let's go dig through all of these maps

[Marcus Parks]

factually. Sound of use for the 13 year old. They make wonderful chums. When the boat reached the pots, the IRA detonated the explosives, blowing up the boat and killing Mountbatten instantly.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And cooking all the lobster.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

When the authorities found his legless corpse, Mountbatten was floating face down in the water. And Northern Ireland had one less monster to deal with.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, that must have been so sweet. I just want to get it once.

[Eddie Pepitone]

What do you mean?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just to see to the news like somebody I really don't, like, get exploded.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's the funnest way for you to get sweet revenge.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's been a while.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I've never seen somebody just like somebody I truly dislike get exploded. It's been a long time.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, it has been. There was the one Russian general, but I kind of liked him, but that

[Henry Zebrowski]

was, like, hard because that guy, he was a. Yeah. Because he did it. Because he was like, I'm coming for you, Putin. And Putin's like, well, you know, you just. Chef flight, come visit me. Let's talk about it now.

[Marcus Parks]

Even though Jimmy Savile's closest relationship with the royals was blown up by the IRA and all this certainly puts a different tenor on the episode of the Crown that dramatizes Mountbatten's death. He is. Mountbatten is portrayed as a hero in that show.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Really?

[Marcus Parks]

No, he's portrayed as a great man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, it's because Netflix was not allowed to put any single salacious bad thing besides just, like, sex stuff. They were not allowed to put anything in this. The show, because of how thoroughly controlled the UK allows any kind of entertainment about the. The royal family that. That's allowed to be portrayed. Because they'll sue you t. You don't exist, dude.

[Eddie Pepitone]

When I did Historical Roast, when I was a writer on that, we had a fortune fer play Princess Diana, and. Which was hilarious. She was amazing. And. But we had, like, jokes about the Queen killing her and stuff.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And then making. People from Netflix UK flew in and they're like, nah, you got to cut those two jokes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The reason why they do that is

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm surprised to let us do this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, it's because they don't know we're doing it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, we'll find. We'll find out. But Savile had also developed a close relationship with Prince Philip, Queen Elizabeth's husband, by the time of Mountbatten's assassination. See, Prince Philip immediately saw Jimmy Savile as a way for the royal family to project a common touch. And his words, not mine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And definitely what Prince Philip knew, because that, like, I could see him just, like, he's just. He's liquid.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Jimmy Savile was a way for the royals to appear more approachable, because that was always a concern for the royals in the latter half of the 20th century. They had to figure out in the age of mass media, media, how to appear as human beings, because the. The monarchy had never had to worry about being a human being before television.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because that's. It is interesting because all of the media is changing everything because you're even just having to understand that like, Lord Mountbatten probably had not even been like pictorialized that much in terms of like, things that they saw every day. So you could definitely see him coming and abusing a bunch of people and then I'm not realizing that they were just abused by a member of the Royal family.

[Marcus Parks]

Prince Philip also believed that Jimmy Savile's so called common touch could be of great use to his incredibly awkward and terribly disappointing son, Charles, the Prince of Wales and heir to the throne.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, how I wish I could be your tampon. I wish I could still be your tampon and crawl inside of you, my dearest. Can you imagine how rough her tampon was?

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Camille.

[Marcus Parks]

Camilla. Camilla seems fine.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I think it's wool.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't know if people go out and shop for different textures.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You should be with your tampon.

[Marcus Parks]

Bring me the absolute scratchiest tampon you can find.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Heavy Flo. Oh, here comes the Flo.

[Marcus Parks]

As we mentioned last. That's why they call it Aunt Flo.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow. Well, as we mentioned last episode, Charles immediately took to Jimmy Savile as part jester, part friend, part confidant, part advisor and at times, full mentor. In other words, it was clear to anyone who saw them together that Charles trusted Savile and valued his opinions in all matters. Now, it took Jimmy Savile until the mid-1980s to fully worm his way into Prince Charles's inner circle. But starting in 1986, the two of them began a 20 year correspondence in which Cavill basically told the royals how to behave in public with actual people.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, they'd be like, how do I respond to this situation? How would you do it, Jimmy? And then he would give them advice.

[Marcus Parks]

He would write like five page, like outlined strategies for, like, this is what, you know, you need a situation room. This is how you talk to people. These are the things you say, these are the things you don't say. And they listened to him.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He was great at it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. He was quite good at. Very specific, like, honestly. Of emergency pr.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. How to manipulate people.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's like if the wolf was a wolf.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. By the end of the 80s, Jimmy Savile had unrestricted access to the royal palaces and what's boasted of popping into Buckingham palace after completing the London Marathon to have a shower and then afterward tea with the Queen.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But who knows what's real and what's not real too?

[Marcus Parks]

Well, we do know that it is that he could show up as any. He could basically show up almost anywhere in England and talk his way in. Unless it was, like, a top secret military facility. Then he could talk his way. He could talk his way into any royal palace.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He also never tried. He never tried. Who knows?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, well, Savile was so trusted by Prince Charles that Charles actually called Savile in to be a marriage counselor to, in a word, fix his broken marriage to Diana, even though Savile was notoriously single his entire life. Life. Savile, however, took the opportunity of this access to lick the arm of one of Charles's female clerks just before a so called counseling session. The clerk, just like the hospital staff at Stoke Mandeville, was told not to say anything about the assault because Salvo was there on an important mission to patch up things between, quote, the boss and the bossette. And nothing was more important than that. Now, as far as Savile's relationship with Princess Diana went, it seems like it was one way in public and another in private. In 1987, Savile invited Diana to help him unveil a new MRI scanner at Stoke Mandeville Hospital. And Savile certainly played up the role of jester with Princess Di in public. He made her laugh however he could. He wore a funny T shirt that said for sale, and she playfully slapped him like, oh, you're so funny. But in private, Diana told a former royal correspondent that Savile was so creepy that she would physically recoil whenever he was around. Savile had inserted himself into Diana's marriage without her consent because Charles liked having him around and he trusted him. And Savile could show up at any residence at any time to, quote, check up on Diana. Savile finally went too far when he licked Diana's hand. Although details on that incident are scant, we just know that at one point he licked her hand.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But as far as we can tell, that was probably near the end of her marriage to Charles anyway, because it's sort of awkward when your husband's friend licks your hand and your husband waves it off as charming. Oh, so working class.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, they're all prisoners. Princess Die was a prisoner at that point.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, like she was just. And then they murdered her now. Yeah, sure, they murdered her. Queen Elizabeth II murdered her. Here she did.

[Marcus Parks]

Step on her. There you go. Oh, boy. Netflix UK here to see you.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just wonder if you would r

[Marcus Parks]

terribly if you would possibly refrain from saying the Queen killed the Princess Diana.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Get out of here, you limey bastard. Dang.

[Marcus Parks]

And that's why we can say it now.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad she's dead. Not Princess Diana? No.

[Eddie Pepitone]

The Queen.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, enough's enough. You're right, you know, and that's what really, what it came down to. Enough's enough.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Enough's enough.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Stuff is enough.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, to be fair, there have never been any accusations nor evidence of pedophilia when it comes to King Charles.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. He wants to be Camilla's tempin.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, that's it. There's never. There's never been any indication that King Charles has any dark sexual secrets. He's pretty damn normal. That really. The weirdest thing is wanting to be Camilla's tampon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's the grossest thing about him, is how much he loves Camilla. But also he seems like a very boring, if clueless, befuddled man.

[Marcus Parks]

But that's what it is. That being said, King Charles has certainly surrounded himself throughout his life with pedophiles and sexual monsters. Whether it's his Uncle Louis, his brother Andrew, or his many pedophile friends.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Many pedophile friends.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It definitely makes you look better in comparison.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just hard. All of your friends are pedophiles. It just gets to a point where

[Marcus Parks]

it's like, now, whether that's a Charles thing or it's just a feature of being in the social class of incredibly wealthy and powerful people, that's up for debate. Could be one or the other.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Could be an inbred thing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, it's an inbred thing. You won't understand. You understand. You wouldn't understand. Oh, yeah. My eyes look two, two, two different directions. It's an inbred thing.

[Marcus Parks]

Let me ask you this. Is it a party hole thing?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. Oh, would I understand. You would not understand. Is it in bread thing?

[Marcus Parks]

But the fact remains that Charles's social circle was indeed far more evil than the average person's social circle. Besides Jimmy Savile, Prince Andrew and Lord Mountbatten.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's enough.

[Marcus Parks]

Charles was also close with a pedophile who had the unfortunate and appropriate name of Peter Ball.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. We had to change it from the proper Balls.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, it was a dark Sunday.

[Marcus Parks]

Change from the old name. Richard Testicles.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Testicles.

[Marcus Parks]

Polish name.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Mr. Testicles. Come closer.

[Marcus Parks]

Dick Testicles.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank you.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Nice to meet you.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Big Black Cop, abc.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, Ball provably committed offenses of sexual abuse against at least 17 teenage boys and young men.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You can say that again.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I don't know.

[Marcus Parks]

Ball provably committed offenses of sexual abuse against at least 17 teenage boys and Young men, men. Crimes for which Ball was convicted of in 2015. It was very nice, a very small sentence. It was a slap on the wrist at best. But even after the first allegations were made against Peter Ball In 1993, Prince Charles came to Peter Ball's aid and wrote a letter to Ball in which Charles said that he wished he could have done more to right the monstrous wrongs that have been done here, because he thought that this whole thing. It's a big misunderstanding. It's always a big misunderstanding.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like, sure, they were young, but it was boys being boys.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And Charles then arranged for the Duchy of Cornwall to buy a house for Ball and his twin brother so they could rent. And effectively, Charles set up his pedophile friend in residence while Ball figured out his next move.

[Henry Zebrowski]

These are great friends.

[Marcus Parks]

He is a great friend. And so it is my estimation that rather than being a pedophile himself, King Charles is more of an incredibly insecure and overly trusting fool who's willing to go to bat for anyone who's nice to him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly, it's. It's. That is actually dead on descriptor of him.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And in turn, it seems like sexual predators like Jimmy Savile and Peter Ball, they recognize that King Charles was a very useful idiot that they could adhere themselves to if they wanted to continue escaping justice, which. Which they did.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The way people describe working with him, I kind of get a little. During this series, I got a little bit, like, involved in several YouTube videos talking about people that have worked for Buckingham palace or work for Prince Andrew, who work for these things. And the way they talk about Charles is that because, you know, like, he's doing the thing where he's not doing the proper cancer treatments, he's doing the whole holistic thing and he.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, so he's going to die soon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, He's. That's. They all say he's well meaning if an absent person.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's just like a. Literally like a. Oh, duh. Like, that's like his whole life.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, dear. Not another one.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Off another one.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You see the footage of the person putting the pen in his hand and, like, helping him sign.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, he's not probably. He does have problems with his hands.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Obviously

[Henry Zebrowski]

you've seen them sausages he couldn't molest if he wanted to. And I honestly think that's what's nice, is that it kept him clean. I think having the big sausagey fingers was like. Because you have an idea how hard it is to get the little buttons.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

No, I don't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I have many, many, many, many dolls. You're always undressing and changing clothes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

In the seasons you don't undress the doll, you can't see what's underneath.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Hey, how do you know that I. If I don't. They weren't made to order like I asked for them.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, my God. Are those really his hands?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, buddy. Jesus.

[Marcus Parks]

Lord. Rob just pulled up a picture of his hands. I've never seen his hands. Those are.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Looks like they're about to explode.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly. They keep them honest.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow. And they're all different lengths.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Each one's a different brand of sausage. One's Johnsonville at the Vienna. Right there, I see. Oh, yeah, that's definitely. Oh, there's. There's a couple of Johnsonvilles.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. There a Oscar Meyer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah. There's definitely a Nathan's.

[Marcus Parks]

There's a Armor Hot Dog.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Armor Hot Dog, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

God, that is vile.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just die already, buddy.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, God.

[Marcus Parks]

God, we'll get there eventually.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, you will.

[Marcus Parks]

Now Margaret Thatcher finally became.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's, like the most disgusting thing in this entire series.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I can't believe you never saw this before. I'm glad.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I've never seen it either. I have no idea.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Nauseous man.

[Marcus Parks]

God. And you're a man with gigantic sausage fingers. You have gigantic sausage hands. Is that going to happen?

[Henry Zebrowski]

But get. Hey, maybe. But guess who. I'mma trim them. Guess who's not complaining, though. Yeah, y', all. Camila. Because it gets out. Four finger dip in there.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's why she's still bleeding.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, the flow

[Henry Zebrowski]

now.

[Marcus Parks]

Margaret Thatcher became prime minister in 1980, and since Jimmy now had connections at every level of British government, he began making regular visits to both Downing Streets street and Buckingham Palace. At those locations, Savile would assault the people who worked for the royals and the people who worked for Thatcher, all while he gave advice to the people who ruled England.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's literally raping people in Buckingham Palace.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. But even though Savile was now a part of the crew that made the decisions that affected the lives of every person in the United Kingdom, he was still considered a person of interest in the infamous Yorkshire Ripper Murders. Now, to give you a refresher, the Yorkshire Ripper Murders involved a string of 13 killings and seven attempted murders in Jimmy Savile's territory in Northern England, Leeds and Manchester. The Yorkshire Ripper was eventually identified as Peter Sutcliffe, who was arrested in January of 1981. But Jimmy Savile had been considered a person of interest to investigators prior to Sutcliffe's arrest for multiple reasons. Firstly, most of the Yorkshire Ripper's victims were sex workers, and Jimmy Savile was known to be a regular patron of sex workers in Leeds. Secondly, two of the murders were committed in Hyde park in Leeds. And at the time, Jimmy Savile's apartment overlooked said park and was located not 150 yards from the crime scene.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And he had a mobile rape unit. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Jimmy Savile was actually brought in for questioning after members of the public finally came forward and reported that his reputation as a predator might make him a person worth talking to. To. Then, after another body was found near one of Savile's other homes, a dentist actually made casts of Savile's teeth to see if the bite marks matched. That's how interested they were in Jimmy Savile. Damn. But even though Jimmy Savile had been the subject of a murder investigation in 1980, Margaret Thatcher still put him up for a knighthood for the first time in 1981. That's how much Margaret Thatcher loved Jimmy Savage Savile. But due to the incredible rumors concerning Savile's sexual crimes, it would take nine more years of constant campaigning before Savile would finally become Sir Jimmy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is probably a question for our listeners side stories lpotl gmail.com But I actually wonder how common it is to campaign to be a knight.

[Marcus Parks]

I think it's pretty common.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just seem like there's some people that, like, you know, because I forgot who famously. I think Keith Richards famously said no. There are certain people that. No, I think he. Bowie said no.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Bob Dylan said no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. This idea that there's a. But the idea. It seems kind of gauche to campaign to be a knight, but maybe that is. Maybe that's common. I don't know.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Probably part of it. We have no idea.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I have no idea.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. But Jimmy Savile. Ish.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, perhaps because Jimmy Savile had been a suspect in the Yorkshire Ripper murders, he was quite chuffed, as the British say, to discover during a sponsored fun run for prisoners on the Isle of White that the actual Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe, was being held at that same prison.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And just to remind you, these corpse, these women were raped, mutilated, and he had that special. He had the rape pants. He had special. Get him pants where he would wear a sweater underneath his. So he would wear a sweater over his legs with his dick and balls going through the neck hole under his pants, so that when he want to quickly rape somebody. He could just drop his pants. His penis was out.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Why not just not wear a underwear, you know, you don't have to wear upside down sweaters.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Eddie doesn't get it. Eddie doesn't get doing things with panache.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Also, like, there's obviously where he's committing the crimes. Hyde Park. He's hiding in the park.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, you know.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And they were looking for leads,

[Henry Zebrowski]

lead sleeves.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, just like it had been with the pedophiles at Broadmoor, Jimmy Savile and Peter Sutcliffe became fast friends. Savile described Sutcliffe as a good bloke. His actual direct quote was, Peter Sutcliffe's as good as gold. The Yorkshire Ripper as good as gold. And this was despite the fact that Sutcliffe had raped and killed over a dozen women. Now, after Peter Sutcliffe was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, he was transferred to Warehouse, but Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital. There, Savile and Sutcliffe became even closer because now Jimmy Savile had unrestricted access to the Yorkshire Ripper. And both staff and patients remarked that these two monsters could often be found deep in private conversation, as if the two of them shared a bond that nobody else could fathom.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And there was a thing that he did where this famous boxer was visiting the hospital while Jimmy Savile was there. And Jimmy Savile thought it was really fun, funny to introduce the two of them and get them a picture taken of the two of them shaking hands. And it ruined this guy's, like, life right after the fact. And Jimmy Savile thought it was hilarious because the guy had no idea that he was shaking hands with the Yorkshire Ripper. And it's just this idea of, like, not only does Jimmy Saville like the Yorkshire Ripper, he likes him enough to include him on bits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And Peter Sutcliffe's down for it all as well.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, yeah, it's weird because it's two things, right? Like they have things in common being predators. But it's also like, Jimmy Savile is a notorious star fucker.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And he's like, gotten famous. The Yorkshire Ripper.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And there's also, again, something to this idea of I can see something within this person that nobody else can see because I have this sort of ability to forgive. Yeah, he, like, that's kind of what he even says. Like, I forgive him of his crimes. I can look into him and I can see something that nobody else can see. Because what he's trying to do, much like we're seeing in our current, like, fucking temperament. He's trying to make Peter Sutcliffe. He's trying to, like, rehab Peter Sutcliffe a little bit. You know, he's trying to say, like, oh, look, no, no, he's just a regular bloke. Because if we can all forgive the Yorkshire Ripper, then eventually maybe you'll forgive me.

[Marcus Parks]

Maybe. Yeah. And it just. It's just another way for him to be a good person. Seem to be a good person's like, well, how would you like it if nobody ever talked to you?

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know? Yes. Cuz you're the Yorkshire Ripper. And at some point it has to. There has to be friendship bars. There has to be some barrier to entries to certain forms of friendship.

[Eddie Pepitone]

No Rippers.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No Rippers. No Rippers. Jesse and the Rippers, the character that John Stamos played on Full House.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Even though, you know what?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. Wow.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I'm gonna say no as well, because John Stamos sucks.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow. Oh, whoa.

[Marcus Parks]

I won't.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I won't take that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He does. I don't have an opinion. I don't have an opinion.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I love John.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm right in the middle.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, fine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't have an opinion.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, I'm on the. I'm on Team Rebecca Romaine. Oh, really?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, I don't know what he did there

[Marcus Parks]

because I love strange new worlds and I think it's a good, good Star Trek show.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I do choose Rebecca Romaine.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Okay. Well, you don't have to. It's been decades.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I choose Rebecca.

[Marcus Parks]

Just like it was in the 60s and 70s. There were times when the press got close to exposing Jimmy Savile during the 1980s. In 1983, two girls age 10 and 11 had a bad experience in Jimmy's house after he invited them inside for a tea. So the girls told their parents.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Parents.

[Marcus Parks]

And the parents called both the cops and the tabloids. Savile was therefore hounded for months by the tabloids because they've been waiting for something like this for a long time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But Savile claimed that nobody could find any evidence of anything, which, quote, earned him total respect from the authorities. They had so much respect for him. They looked into him. They found nothing. Oh, my God, they love him so much.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Do you have any idea how hard it is to string together evidence for sexual assault? It's one. It's extremely difficult. Well, I mean, it's why these guys. Guys do this, though. But they do. They do this because it's. These charges bounce off of them? Well, I mean, because it's. They're the evidentiary, like what you have to get.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. The burden of proof is insane, but at this point there are dozens upon dozens of reports all over. Anyway, tell me about it, about Jimmy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sal, I'll. Believe me.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm not fucking encouraging, I'm just saying.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, no, it's difficult now, obviously the police just weren't doing their job and not just because they might have been leaned on by the Prime Minister or the Prince of Wales, who, remember by 1983, three. Both of those people are close personal friends to Jimmy Savile. As we said, Jimmy Savile had gained control over the police decades before he even met a royal. So he had nothing to worry about when it came to investigation. His biggest worry was the ever present and vicious British press. But Jimmy Savile had an innate understanding of how to manipulate any given situation, no matter how large it was. And his plan for the press worked perfect perfectly. To distract from the 1983 pedophilia accusations, Savile gave interviews in which he would quickly deny the sex crimes, then change the subject to smaller transgressions from his past involving violence so as to give the papers something salacious to print. Savile went back to his dance hall days, describing himself as a godfather with an army of goons who would tie up and beat geezers who were trying to look up a girl's skirt or grow up him, all on Savile's cold orders. Savile even claimed that a bouncer once kicked a man's head in on Saville's say. So this is amidst many other stories of dance hall and black market goings on that may or may not have happened. Savile then once again admitted to indulging in girls and groupies. But way back in the 60s, 20 years ago, but so long ago, why are you even asking about that? And he would immediately and cleverly pivot to his well established altruism. He said ever since he started his hospital and charity work, all that business with the young girls stopped. Don't do that. Don't do that anymore.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh yeah, it's like how we. We're so busy making war, we can't work with the Medicaid. You can't fix Medicaid. We got big boy things to do.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I mean, in his defense, he was in the necrophilia.

[Marcus Parks]

And so, because the British people wanted to believe it, Savile skated by once again. And he was left to continue indulging in his Monstrous habits from one end of England to the other other for another 30 years. Another 30 years, another 30 years. Now, as the years went by, Jimmy Savile embedded himself even deeper into the systems that allowed him his indulgences. He was like a tick. And he therefore gained more allies in his sexual monstrosity, particularly within the nhs. The senior civil servant who ran the mental health division of the Department of Health, A1 Brian McGinnis, was indeed an alleged pedophile who was said to have raped at least one disable child, but ultimately escaped charges.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Good numbers as far as this episode goes.

[Marcus Parks]

1.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

McGinnis also blocked legislation that would help sexual assault victims with disabilities, which is a. I mean that's a hard thing to come out and say.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Nah, well, it's cuz they're like. The main thing is just cuz like ew. And like what a boring subject. Why aren't we putting more kids on roller coasters to eat lunch? Like, what are we doing here? Why are we talking about all we need to protect all these people? What are we doing here?

[Marcus Parks]

Well, in 1988, Jimmy Savile and Brian McGinnis were brought in to be a part of a task force to reform Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital. And so these monsters sat on the hospital's board, right next to various other allies of Margaret Thatcher. This was a Thatcher project. Now, being on the actual board of Broadmoor emboldened Saville even further and he began shaping the institution to suit his own needs. He recommended small, smaller wards with more private rooms, more individual therapy for patients and a new office for himself. All of Savile's requests were granted, but it was discovered after his death that Savile had used his seedier connections to gather blackmail on Broadmoor staff, which he used to get them to support his ideas. To further distract from his own crimes. Savile even started accusing nurses of committing fraud through fake overtime claims and even told people that they a hidden IRA terrorist cell operating out of Broadmoor. Now, none of these claims were true, but they did wonders at keeping the criminal focus off of Jimmy Savile at Broadmore Psychiatric Institute. So all you got to do is just accuse someone of fraud, say there are terrorists out there somewhere, go look for them. It works on many levels for many different people at any time in history.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And it does seem, yeah, it does seem to be working extremely well right now. Especially when you let a villain, Nolan, be in charge of everything. Yes, it just seems that they then can do all this very easily.

[Marcus Parks]

But to truly show you how much control and influence Jimmy Savile had over Broadmoor. Savile basically handpicked the new general manager of the institution during his so called reform. Savile recommended his good friend of 20 years, Alan Franey, who had no experience whatsoever working at an institution like Broadmoor, a high security psychiatric metric facility. Yes, but because the establishment listened to Savile and because it's apparently a long standing feature of conservative governments to give important jobs to people with absolutely no experience, Franey held the manager position at Broadmoor for eight years. That meant that for eight years Jimmy Savile had total unrestricted access to all the patients and prisoners at Broadmoor, while Franey himself had something around 50 so called affairs on the grounds.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, they just made it an entire operation, huh?

[Marcus Parks]

No, they made it where it was.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean it was perfect environment for themselves.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It was a literal prison.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, Y. And so with almost total control over the facility, Savile began parking his caravan at the main gate where he would stand wearing swim trunks, a gold chain and sunglasses. He was there to welcome visitors because as if he didn't have enough choice with just the patients and the prisoners at Broadmoor, he would try to entice youngsters visiting relatives at Broadmoor into his caravan away from the watchful eye of their parents. Because it's, it's insatiable.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just, it's just, it's literally his entire life.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He doesn't like anything else.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm surprised.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He eats food.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Like literally he doesn't like watch television probably. He doesn't like go to the movies. You know, like it's.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is the reason why we're. But it's literally why we're doing this series is to really constantly remind people how unique this scenario was. Like, like it wasn't right. Now we know we really wasn't. But it's you. It's a unique thing that's like a modern thing that now we're really dealing with.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It was truly the only thing he did. It was like literally like I was like, like if Jim Henson didn't make puppets and he only raped.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly, the Muppet show be way different. Yeah, way different. Especially with all those little kids on his hands.

[Eddie Pepitone]

But you know, nothing happened.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, you're right.

[Marcus Parks]

Nothing happened with Jim Henson.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Jim Henson, yes, but on Sesame Street.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But he was not. But he was a cold father. But he didn't molest anybody.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Was. He was absent.

[Marcus Parks]

Absent, sure. Well, by 1980, in 1988, Jimmy Savile had fully integrated himself into the system. And since he had so many powerful allies in all the right places, regular people caught in the middle truly felt that there was nothing they could do to stop him. And if you're asking why people didn't just come out and tell the press about Savile's crimes, if you're calling the entire nation of England a bunch of cowards who were too scared to do the right thing, there's actually a pretty good example from 1987 that will show you why it was so difficult for people to come forward and why it was so difficult for the press to report on. On anything. See, just before Savile took over Broadmoor, he was very nearly taken down the same way that Bill Cosby fell from grace at the hands of a comedian. He had sort of forgotten that. The whole reason why Bill Cosby's crimes came to light is because one of the guys from our old scene in New York, Hannibal Burris, he had a Bill Cosby bit in his set that went viral. It was, what, like 2014 or something?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, like, remember?

[Marcus Parks]

Like, it was fucking insane when that happened.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But that's also one of those things where I did. I did not know. Know as a Bill Cosby is somebody that meant a lot to me. I did not know about these accusations. I had no fucking idea. And what Hannibal was saying is that this was such a pervasive knowledge throughout the African American community that then he. When he finally pulled it off the top, everyone went, what?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know, like, oh, fuck, yeah. Because there were multiple articles about it. Just none of us ever saw them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just didn't. It didn't all go together. It all didn't come together in my brain because I created a special place in my mind for Bill Cosby.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And from that one clip of Hannibal that I think. I mean, wasn't it t. Like, it was taken from the audience, like him doing, like, an auditorium show or something?

[Henry Zebrowski]

He was just riffing. Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It was, like, really one of the first viral things.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, he was just riffing.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And from that, Bill Cosby's entire world fell apart. Likewise, Jimmy Savile came very close to getting Hannibal by a standup comedian named Jerry Satowitz, who special in 1987 in which he said that Savile only does charity work to gain sympathy for when his pedophile case comes up. That special, however, was never released, and it was only spiked out of fear that Jimmy Savile would sue for libel. And this, of course, is the same reason why newspapers declined to Print stories about Savile for years on end. Because if a middling comedian can't even make a joke about Jimmy Savile, then a picture paper certainly can't report his crimes as truth. Gasavel also had a team of lawyers who issued letters threatening lawsuits against any newspaper that might print a story that had even a hint of an accusation that might harm Jimmy's reputation. And those letters certainly prevented more than one story from being published throughout the decades.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, because it makes sense. You fucking throw people out this, you know, people are going to withdraw their claims. They don't want to go through the rigmarole of being dropped, dragged through the mud, through multiple court cases, lots of articles. All of a sudden you're a celebrity because you got raped by one.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, no, it's horrible. Now another big question mark here is Prince Andrew, who as we all know, was so well connected to Jeffrey Epstein that the Royal Family excommunicated Andrew for the relationship. But before there was Epstein, Prince Andrew's best pedophile friend was Jimmy Savile.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, Prince Andrew really had a type. Yeah, he really, really had a type because he really was like, they all knew, everybody knew that Prince Andrew was a rapist as well.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Or at least they. He loved prostitutes.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure, sure. Well, Prince Andrew actually participated in an episode of Jim Will Fix it in which an 8 year old boy asked to visit a warship. Prince Andrew readily pitched in and he hosted the child aboard the Mine Hunter HMS Cottage moa. So that's four known pedophiles, including Jimmy Savile on Jim Will Fix it, as far as I know.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey. But there was only one guy regularly on the show. Those guys were guests stars.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, interestingly, there aren't any stories that I could find of Jimmy Savile and Prince Andrew engaging in sexual crimes together, but Jimmy Savile was absolutely one of Prince Andrew's most trusted advisers. When Prince Andrew up and said a bunch of really insensitive about the locker be bombing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Jimmy Savile was the one who told him, here's how you fix it, here's how you make it better. And by 1990, Savl's connections to the royals finally gained him a full knighthood. He was now Sir Jimmy Savile. But when he was asked why it took him so long to be knighted, he said it was because he, quote, unsettled the establishment. Even though Jimmy Savile had been a part of the establishment since at least the 1970s, maybe the 1960s.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He is the establishment.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I just casually looked for Saville and the Epstein files, and there's a bunch of it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I don't know why we didn't do this earlier. I'm sorry for derailing us.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Of course.

[Marcus Parks]

It's fine. I'm sure he shows up quite a bit. It's just. That's a. There's a lot of side quests that I had to.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Blaming you.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just like.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's just.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Of course. But it's also important to understand that this is. So what we're seeing here is a. As a. An effect. We're seeing like, stuff like this. Jimmy Savile, because it was his sole purpose in life to rape people, he put himself into every single sphere of importance that he could get himself into.

[Marcus Parks]

And the knighthood was very much a part of that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, that was the whole. The whole thing is that he knew in his mind the knighthood fixed it all.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, he would use it as proof that the allegations about sexual abuse and assault, they had to be made up. You know, his knighthood proved that beyond a doubt. Why would they knight me if I was a sexual abuser, if I was a rapist? Stop asking.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You think they wouldn't look into it?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, exactly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The Royal Family, of course, that bastion of justice where nobody has a chin and all their eyeballs are nights right next to each other.

[Marcus Parks]

But after knighthood, Jimmy Savile sort of faded into the background of British culture. Reporters continued confronting him with the pedophile rumors in every interview he did. Hell, even Louis the asked him directly about. About it. Jimmy Savile began deflecting by saying, you just couldn't be nice in this world anymore without someone accusing you of being a monster. This is what you get for being nice to people.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But the knighthood actually. Actually, in my mind, gave him permission to pull back. I think that's the reason when he got the knighthood, he realized, I don't have to be this ever. I can just go back to just kind of raping and doing the things I want to do on my own. I don't have to now do full court press because now the knighthood does that for me.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Savile, however, did make a few appearances here and there on British television in the last years of his life. In 2006, he made a cameo on Celebrity Big Brother, but actually ended up acting quite shy because everyone else was more important and famous than he was. Weirdly, Dennis Rodman was on that season.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It takes a lot to be the least weirdest person in the room when Dennis Rodman, you know, like Dennis Rod the most. You're weirder than Dennis Rodman.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's a challenge.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's a challenge. Dennis Rodman should have beat the out of him. How much money would he. God, how much money I would have paid to watch. Watch Dennis Rodman beat the out of Jimmy Savile.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Or at least just like, in a dress.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They put a wedding dress on him and block them. Yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But as the years went by, that shyness became Savile's M.O. because Jimmy Savile would act like a lost dog if people weren't constantly acknowledging his fame and his reputation. For example, when he went away for weeks on an American cruise ship during his twilight years, he was unique, unsettled, because the ship was full of Americans and Americans have no clue who Jimmy Savile is.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. And I imagine most Americans, if we saw you walking around, would be like, get away from me. Like, literally, like, who the are you? You're gross and weird.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, yeah. It'd be like, oh, that guy's on his way to the casino. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Creepy. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

So Savile had his secretary call him on the cruise ship every day he was out to sea, simply so she could affirm to him that he was indeed a special, special boy, even if the Americans had no idea that there was a British legend in their midst. Now, Savile was quite long in the tooth when the new millennium hit, but that didn't stop him from being monstrous. When Savile was brought in to co host the last episode of Top of The Pops in 2006, when he was nearly 80 years old, he still managed to sexually assault a teenage girl in the studio audience.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This isn't his late. This is 79 years old. He's still fucking in that. This. He's still this.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, I could see him doing it for old time's sake.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah. Just because I'm in. I'm in office. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm in the top. I'm in Top of the Pops. That's. That's what I used to do.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Also. It's probably easier for him to get away with it as an old man because people, like, find dirty old men charming sometimes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sometimes.

[Marcus Parks]

Sometimes, yeah. And at this point, him being an old man, some say, is why the investigations at the end of his life, life didn't actually go through, because it's like, ah, he's too old. He's gonna die, he's gonna die. We're like, we don't Want to, you know, he's too old.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Let's not unsettle everything. We unsettle everything now. Like, you know, like he's gonna, you know, he's gonna be dead soon.

[Eddie Pepitone]

We still hunt Nazis.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, as we should.

[Marcus Parks]

No, we should. He should have gone to jail.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If there's a single Nazi left alive, I don't care if there are 102. String them the cut their feet off, cut their face off, shoot them in the head. Could not give a.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, when Savile started popping up on TV again in the mid-2000s, women who had been raped or assaulted by Savile began speaking out. And the loudest voices were coming from women who had done time at Duncroft Approved School for girls in their youth. But even though Jimmy Savile was in his 80s when this started happening, he still never let down the guard that had kept him protected all those years. In Surrey, a police investigation called Operation Ornament was opened following Savile's appearance on Celebrity based Big Brother. But even though several rape allegations were collected, the investigation stopped when it was discovered that at least four Surrey police officers were personal friends with Jimmy Savile. Those cops attended weekly social meetings at Savill's apartment, meetings known as the Friday Morning Breakfast Club. For four decades, serving and retired police officers would come to Savile's penthouse to be charged, charmed, befriended or compromised, all for the purpose of keeping them on Jimmy Savile's side when he needed protection, which was awful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, I, I, this is really where we see what, that's when people say the words pedophile cabal or like people network all this kind of stuff. Like on one hand, I think that's the problem is that on our minds we see like evil villains, like guys like literally like looking evil in some castle or, or like, you think it's like a, like a real, like evil villains, like lair or whatever. This is a pedophile network.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it's a guy's apartment.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just going to a guy's apartment where they all share the, the tips of the trade. They all are constantly getting each other in trouble. We are seeing, and we see it again and again and again because they have to work and they have to operate in groups.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And you also see with stuff like this, they also bring in people who ostensibly didn't want to be there in the first place or didn't want to be a part of it. But all of a sudden, you know, they start hanging around with these people. You start hanging around with the wrong crowd and suddenly you're gonna find yourself in a very compromising position.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You're fucking implicated, man. Rico.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Now, it wasn't until 2009 that Jimmy Savile was actually contacted by the cops to come in for questioning. But Savile refused to come in. He said that he had a West Yorkshire police inspector who, quote, usually deals with this sort of thing, and if the cops wanted answers, they should call that police inspector. Now, incredibly, this is inspector fully admitted that Jimmy Savile was a close personal friend. Said, oh, yeah, Jimmy gets complaints like this all the time. Has for years. Wouldn't worry about it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just like. But then he gets it all the time, all the time. Just like.

[Eddie Pepitone]

But that means worry about it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You should worry about it. It's like the opposite. It's like. It should be like, this is the only time I've heard of this.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I will go into this person's crazy. You know, it's one time I up. No, it's a hundred, it's more.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And if more and more people don't like, I just. What if it's two? This is. This would come down to where the problems with operate, where people would come at Operation U Tree later on because they just. This idea of just believing victims is something that it's just. They're just not ready for.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And so a report was made and buried Mark Confidential. So no other department in the UK was made aware of what had transpired with Operation Ornament. The only time Jimmy was ever put in the box, so to speak, was when police interviewed him in October of 2009 in the friendliest yet creepiest possible location to ask him about his alleged sexual assaults. They met at Jimmy's private office at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, where Jimmy committed a large portion of his crime.

[Eddie Pepitone]

So they were like sitting on his jizz, asking him if he fucking jizzed there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, in interviews, interview that lasted just a hair under an hour. Savile led the questions and barked denials anytime he was asked something directly. I mean, the. The audio from this is. It's chilling because they ask him a question, you just go out of the question. And he would just yell over and over again, he's like, no, not. Never. Not at all. Never did that. And you get mad at them and you can see the cops get cowed.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They do.

[Marcus Parks]

And again, this was good enough for the investigators who closed the investigation at the the interview. As author Dan Davies recognized, this was a pattern that went all the Way Back to the 1950s, accusations of rape would be made against Jimmy Savile. But police investigations, every single time, for one reason or another, would stall out before charges could be made. And Jimmy Savile kept that game going until the day he died.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's just so crazy when it's like, you look at guys like Savile and you're like, it's so obvious, right?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

But then, you know, you look at like, you know, like Trump, it's so obvious, you know, but it's like, how do they keep getting away with it?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because it's so obvious.

[Eddie Pepitone]

There's certain people where it's just like, crimes. I just can't stick to them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because our human society depends on certain social mores that holds it all together. We, there is a part of this, is that we are supposed to experience, experience shame, right? We're supposed to experience regret. We're supposed to experience these things that are supposed to, like, the hesitancy to do these crimes. Most of our justice systems are based upon like, like, more like, like etiquette. Like, most of it's based on stuff like that. So when you get like. And because these crimes are so difficult to prosecute, because, number one one, it's like most courts deeply depend on evidence, right. In terms of actual evidence. It's not just the, what you consider witness testimony, all that kind of stuff. It's like they want a picture of Jimmy Savile in mid rape with the newspaper there with the date. They like, that's the thing, that's what they're looking for, these smoking guns.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's so crazy because any other case other than rape, like witness testimony, means something.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that's because. Because there's so much rape that if we were to always go at every single case that required it, we would never stop prosecuting it. And I think that that's part of what we're. That's just nightmare. It's a nightmare.

[Marcus Parks]

It's an absolute nightmare. And the other thing about it is that, like, people like Salva, people like Trump, they're connected. And those connections and they fight, get them out of situations all the time. Because we, a lot of us, I think, operate on this principle that there is justice in this world and that we have systems in place to keep bad things from happening or at least to punish bad people when they do bad things. But those people that are in charge of those systems have to get the wheels moving and they can just say no. Like, that's the thing. The people who prosecute the People who arrest, they can just say, no, I don't feel like it. And therefore that person will never go to trial, they will never get prosecuted. Just, just because the wheels never move. And so, because Jimmy Savile had figured out the system to a T, he died quietly in his sleep of pneumonia on October 29, 2011 at 84 years old. He was found lying in his bed with his fingers crossed and a smile on his face, satisfied that he had lived a life of evil indulgence without consequence. But once Jimmy Savile was finally, finally dead, the libel suits were no longer a problem. The victims voices grew louder and a police investigation called Operation U Tree was finally launched by Scotland Yard. Even though it took an entire year after Savile's death to go after a dead man. Yeah, to finally get it going. On the first day of investigation, 24 people reported crimes against Jimmy Savile. And by the end of it, police had 600 lines of investigation open with a final estimate of 589 reported assaults. This of course is an incredibly low number considering how Savile was active as an opportunistic predator for almost 60 years. The real number is probably double, if not triple what was reported to the Operation UTRI officers. Maybe even more than that. Oh yeah, before long, Jimmy Savile's massive headstone which had, and his, his headstone was. He had a last fuck you to everyone he ever hurt. His headstone read. It was good while it lasted.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And it was what, it was like something like several meters long. And it had quotes from the, from the, the, the royalty and his friends. And it had all the numbers of the money he gave. It was this massive like monument to him.

[Marcus Parks]

Yep. Torn down in the middle of the night and thrown in a landfill. And Savile's oversized presence was totally wiped from buildings, monuments and park, the United Kingdom. It's incredible how many buildings had his name on it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

They should put that thing in the British Museum.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, exactly. And here's a little thing we made ourselves. Normally we steal things from Africa, but every once in a while we do bad things here.

[Marcus Parks]

But in the end, very little accountability came to all of the people complicit in Jimmy Sav's crimes. Nobody at the BBC went down for allowing Savile to use their studios and their reputation as traps for victims. People from the BBC went down for other things.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. For Operation U Tree, there was a couple of guys that went down for like, you know, there was, there was one anchor that went down, Max Clifford. Went down. He was a publicist. The guy named David Patrick Griffin, that was another guy. And Gary Glitter was like the, the one that was caught by u tree.

[Marcus Parks]

Well Gary Glitter was also. I mean he was in prison for a while. Well he'd been on the run for a while.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Long time.

[Marcus Parks]

Because he had he the reason why Gary Glitter got in Cause cuz he dropped off a laptop at a repair shop and it was full of child pornography.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes but that's like considered to be the big get. And the guy they got later on was a guy by the name of Ray Charles. A guy by the name of Ray Terrett was a guy that got arrested that ended up being like. Were they conv. Like sort of like the, the proxy Jimmy Sav. Because he came up with him and he was a. Was his chauffeur during the 1960s and they got him in November 2012 and they got him on I believe seven counts and then he died in prison. The Ray Terrett's like the one that they think they view as like. That's the one we got instead.

[Marcus Parks]

Cool.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Great.

[Marcus Parks]

Nobody at the NHS went down for allowing Jimmy Saville to run rampant across their facilities. Nobody in the police went down for continually killing any investigation into Jimmy Savile's crimes. But while many people either reluctantly assisted Jimmy Savile in his crimes or readily participated, it was Savile himself who played the grotesque spider sitting at the center of this web. See if this series shows anything, it's that Savile was a genius at knowing and seeing how systems worked. In my opinion, understanding systems is one of the skills that can enable a person to commit evil on a truly massive scale. Like Jimmy Savile. Savile did. I mean I, I actually the person that Jimmy Savile is really similar to actually Keith Ranieri. Oh sure, they just, they understand systems and they understand people and they understand how to work them to their advantage.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But also don't give him that much credit card. Neary is still a. You ripped off science.

[Marcus Parks]

Very, very low. No, he's a low, super, super low.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Jimmy Savile eats his lunch. You know, I mean in terms of evil guys.

[Marcus Parks]

Very much so, very much so.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I think Jimmy Savile would like have like. We don't do March Madness. Jimmy Savile would beat Keith Ranieri to death.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, easily. No, no, Keith Ranieri is a very low level piece of shit. But yes, but it's the similar line of thinking. It's just understanding systems and you can really commit. That's the Thing is that the people that understand systems the best almost never use that power to make those systems better. They almost always use their knowledge of the those systems to commit evil to enrich themselves. And one by one, Savile figured out how to manipulate all the important systems of 20th century England. He started in the black markets of Leeds. He started in the organized crime system. Savile eventually got to the point where he was pulling the strings of the Prime Minister and the Royal family, all in service to feeding the gaping hole of evil within his own own soul. He destroyed countless lives with his crimes. But he's psychologically damaged even more with the way in which he did it. By using systems, Savile irreparably damaged the trust that people have in the systems that are supposed to protect us and are supposed to make our lives a little bit easier. People like Jimmy Savile only serve to prevent the evolution of humanity as a species that can work together for the greater good. And while I would love to say that people like Savile are part of the past, it seems like there's more people, people like Jimmy Savile out there than ever. Or at least we're far more aware of people like Jimmy Savile.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Do you see that? There's another person that is con. Accusing RFK Jr. Of killing a woman. No, there's been four of those now.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow. Yep. Holy. What does RFK Jr. Think about that?

[Henry Zebrowski]

There's a lot. And we're gonna have to go in a lot of the evidence here and just really talk about, does a woman really want to be around me?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

So you're telling me a man who's related to the Skakel family might have done something?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know, buddy, I know.

[Marcus Parks]

But now that we know who these people are and what they're able to do, it is up to us to figure out how to rebuild these systems or choose people who can. I'm just going to go ahead and say that if someone already has multiple allegations of sexual assault and pedophilia, they're probably not the right person for the job of reform. So let's hope that sometime in the very near future, perhaps even in our own lifetime, let's hope that the world will not be run by people who are so easily compared to the second head on our Mount Rushmore of evil, Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Goodbye, fucker.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bye, fucker. I can't wait to blow this mountain up at the end of this entire series. But really, I. I'm glad to not talk about this, man. Anymore for a while. I also have learned quite a bit and it. Making. It's. It's. It's weirdly helping me. It's helping me like there is between this and the Epstein stuff. Yes. It's dark and it's bad and it's. All of this is. It feels bad, it hurts, but it's like a good hurt. I'm starting to understand of like what. How I want to live my life.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's a part of what all of this makes me go back to is thinking about my life, how I can expand and grow versus contract. Knowing that. That that contraction is what makes you do bad things.

[Marcus Parks]

When you expand and what allows bad things to happen.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. And when you expand and open your heart and allow progressive things in and you do this up, you defeat this evil inside of yourself.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Not talking about this shit, not listening to. To like this. That's what keeps it all secret. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think that that's the issue now is that when people were saying, oh, this is icky, you don't want to talk about this. Unfortunately, it's the subject of the day and we need to get balls of deep in it, not to use a term, because we got to understand it. We got to figure out what the we're doing about it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Because we can't stop it until we understand it. Yeah. Yeah. We can't prevent it until we understand it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We have to see the stuff before it gets the b. Too bad.

[Marcus Parks]

Exactly. We have to see it coming. And that's. We always have to see it coming. Be on the lookout. I mean, don't, of course, don't live your life in paranoia and you know, thinking that everybody is a pedophile. That's also a. That's also another negative way to live your life.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But if somebody's telling you they're a pedophile, believe them. Listen, they're actually say that.

[Marcus Parks]

If someone's telling you're a pedophile, believe them. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Also believe Cherry Bop the wonderful. I love the fruity Pebbles. Remember that? I remember David Alan.

[Marcus Parks]

David Greer. Well, yeah, we can end it on a David Allen Greer reference.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank you, Dag. This one's for you. Patreon.com Last podcast on the Left. You can go and see our. Listen to our episodes ad free. You can also see Last Stream on the Left live every Tuesday, 5pm PST. Every once a month we do our after hours where we take videos sent by the Patreon subscribers and we judge the them for you. But you can get that all by Joining our Patreon.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes, indeed. And don't forget to follow us over on the socials at LP on the left. And check out all of our YouTube channels over at the LPN TV YouTube channel.

[Henry Zebrowski]

YouTube channel.

[Marcus Parks]

We got some good. We got some good no Dogs in Space coming up. Stuff coming up very soon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No dogs. Hoopa goo. Coming back April 16, and it's gonna be GX2.

[Marcus Parks]

It's coming back by Raytheon Technology.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's right. And everyone's in this. We got the whole network in it. We got a lot of guest star. It's going to be, I think it's one of the coolest, like, visually coolest things we've ever put together.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's awesome. And then also check out an LPN TV Bloodbath Hour, Vampire in the Masquerade, Playthrough, because we're about to start shooting season two.

[Marcus Parks]

That's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And check out bloodbath 77. It's gonna be really fun. And then for just know next week we're coming back. We're doing true crime.

[Marcus Parks]

That's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We got some true crimes. And. But you just, just know that in the next Mount Rushmore head the. Not that far off.

[Marcus Parks]

It's really not, you know, it's really not probably, I would say end of summer.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. So we'll be coming back again to this horrific series with another.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Thank God. I can't wait.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You can't wait for this next one.

[Marcus Parks]

You're really gonna.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's not, it's not like we're two for two on these. Mount Rushmore setting me in a depression.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The next one, it's not gonna make you super happy.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah. No, this one. There's definitely a point yesterday when I was just staring out the window, just going, oh, God. Okay, just finish it. You can finish it. You can. You can finish it. It's good. It's good work. It's good work.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, if you're looking to be cheered up next week, you can see us in Cincinnati, Ohio at the Taft Theater. That's going to be April 25th. May 29th, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. June 27th, Grand Rapids, Michigan. July 17th, Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. That's right. And if you want to come see me on the road, just go check out anytoons.com for all my shows.

[Marcus Parks]

And remember, these are the last shows of the JK Ultra Tour. The last few times we're going to be doing this show. So if you want to see it or if you want to see it again, come out and see us.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I actually saw a tweet that said that Tulsa is like Portland if it was incredibly poor. And I wonder if that's true or not.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's weird.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was a tweet I saw.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Tweet you saw, huh?

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I don't know if that's true. But I can't wait to go.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Tulsa's got a downtown.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Never been there.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Stallone goes there. It can't be that poor.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're right.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And Martin Starr.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, I miss him. Hail, sweet Satan, everyone.

[Marcus Parks]

Elgin.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Hail, ld.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Ld, Larry David.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's for tune in to HGX to find out who LD is.

[Marcus Parks]

Yep, that's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Good tease. Good tease.

[Marcus Parks]

Bye, fuckers.

[Doug Stanhope]

And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, everyone, Check out this guy and his bird. What is this, your first date?

[Marcus Parks]

Oh.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, no.

[Doug Stanhope]

We help people customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual together. We're married.

[Marcus Parks]

Me to a human, him to a bird.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

[Doug Stanhope]

Anyways, only pay for what you [e-mail].

[Henry Zebrowski]

liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.