Side Stories: Annabelle Strikes Back

Summary

Last Podcast on the Left: "Side Stories: Annabelle Strikes Back" Summary

Release Date: July 16, 2025

Overview

In the episode titled "Side Stories: Annabelle Strikes Back," hosted by The Last Podcast Network, Henry Zabrowski and Ed Larson delve into the ominous resurgence of Annabelle the Doll. This long-form summary captures the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn throughout the episode, providing an engaging narrative for both regular listeners and newcomers.

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1. The Return of Annabelle the Doll

The episode opens with Henry Zabrowski introducing one of the most chilling stories they've been tracking: the return of Annabelle the Doll. Annabelle, previously kept under protective custody due to her purportedly malevolent nature, has been unleashed once more, embarking on a disturbing tour known as the "Devil's on the Run Tour."

• Henry Zabrowski [10:15]: "Annabelle the Doll has been on tour, causing havoc wherever she goes."

2. Dan Rivera’s Mysterious Death

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Dan Rivera, the lead investigator for the New England Society for Psychic Research and Annabelle's tour manager. Rivera's sudden and unexplained death shortly after bringing Annabelle to Gettysburg has raised suspicions and fueled conspiracy theories.

• Henry Zabrowski [25:29]: "Dan Rivera died mysteriously the day after Annabelle arrived in Gettysburg. Could Annabelle be responsible?"

The hosts speculate whether Annabelle orchestrated Rivera's demise, highlighting the eerie coincidences surrounding his death and the doll's presence.

• Ed Larson [26:02]: "It's definitely the doll. Heart stopped by doll."

3. The Gettysburg Incident

Gettysburg serves as the backdrop for one of Annabelle's most infamous episodes. The town experienced a series of unexplained events coinciding with Annabelle's performance, including the malfunctioning of emergency services.

• Henry Zabrowski [14:33]: "When Annabelle arrives in town, the 911 service goes out. What’s different that day? Annabelle was in town."

Despite Rivera's public statements denying any involvement of Annabelle in the chaotic events, the community remains uneasy.

• Ed Larson [15:17]: "Sold out shows like 1300 tickets in Gettysburg. We should do a live show there."

4. Future Annabelle Tour Locations

Looking ahead, Zabrowski and Larson discuss upcoming locations on Annabelle's tour, expressing both fascination and horror at the potential for further tragedies.

• Henry Zabrowski [33:59]: "Annabelle Tours the White House. White House challenge."

They humorously contemplate the implications of Annabelle's presence in high-profile venues, underscoring the escalating fear surrounding her tours.

5. Additional Side Stories

Beyond Annabelle, the episode touches on other macabre and bizarre stories, maintaining the podcast's signature blend of horror and dark humor.

• Screw Worms in Honduras: A terrifying account of parasitic worms causing gruesome infections, highlighting a public health nightmare.

  • Ed Larson [40:10]: "The screw worms have killed a couple of people. They screw themselves deeper and deeper into your body."

• Casey Anthony's Transformation: A satirical take on the infamous figure Casey Anthony, focusing on her controversial appearance changes and public persona.

  • Henry Zabrowski [35:54]: "Casey Anthony is getting hotter. It’s not stress; she has no conscience, allowing her to thrive."

• Chimpanzee Behavior at LA Zoo: An exploration of unusual and aggressive behaviors exhibited by chimpanzees, blending factual information with comedic commentary.

  • Ed Larson [63:56]: "Glenn, the alpha chimp, is now like the Jesus of the chimpanzees at the LA Zoo. Back from the dead."

6. Listener Engagement and Stingers

The hosts incorporate listener contributions, featuring stingers (short musical pieces) from fans, fostering a sense of community and participation.

• Henry Zabrowski [67:17]: "That was from Dylan Radek from Akron, Ohio. Good work."

7. Concluding Thoughts

Wrapping up the episode, Zabrowski and Larson reflect on the unsettling patterns emerging from Annabelle's tours and the broader implications for those involved in paranormal investigations. They express a mix of fascination and apprehension, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating future developments.

• Henry Zabrowski [75:49]: "Nothing makes a ghost hunter happier than finally becoming a ghost."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Henry Zabrowski [10:15]: "Annabelle the Doll has been on tour, causing havoc wherever she goes."
• Ed Larson [26:02]: "It's definitely the doll. Heart stopped by doll."
• Henry Zabrowski [33:59]: "Annabelle Tours the White House. White House challenge."
• Ed Larson [40:10]: "The screw worms have killed a couple of people. They screw themselves deeper and deeper into your body."
• Henry Zabrowski [35:54]: "Casey Anthony is getting hotter. It’s not stress; she has no conscience, allowing her to thrive."
• Ed Larson [63:56]: "Glenn, the alpha chimp, is now like the Jesus of the chimpanzees at the LA Zoo. Back from the dead."
• Henry Zabrowski [67:17]: "That was from Dylan Radek from Akron, Ohio. Good work."
• Henry Zabrowski [75:49]: "Nothing makes a ghost hunter happier than finally becoming a ghost."

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Conclusion

"Side Stories: Annabelle Strikes Back" offers a gripping exploration of the dark forces unleashed by Annabelle the Doll's revival. Through detailed narrative and sharp commentary, Henry Zabrowski and Ed Larson present a compelling mix of horror, mystery, and humor. This episode not only deepens the lore surrounding Annabelle but also weaves in other unsettling tales, maintaining the podcast's reputation for delivering spine-chilling content.

For those intrigued by true crime, the supernatural, and the macabre, this episode is a must-listen, encapsulating the essence of The Last Podcast on the Left.

Transcript

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

This is the last on the left side stories.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Just so you know, we're supposed to wait 28 seconds before we can begin saying naughty things. 12 at the very top of the show because it's hurting our ability. 16 to I guess sell Pampers.

[Ed Larson]

18.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I guess we're selling Pampers. Have you had I love my podcasting active diaper that I wear because normally what it allows me to do is just 26. I can just feel confident knowing.

[Ed Larson]

Tits.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Okay, great. We did it. We did it. No, we did. 28 seconds. It's still really close. No, man, 28 seconds. Just make sure you add a little bit of silence in there and then that'll add it up to 28 seconds. And that's gonn to keep us from getting constantly. I'm just getting harassed from all angles. Yeah, I'm getting harassed from all angles.

[Ed Larson]

We're getting our rats over this.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, I'm getting my ass. We actually gonna have to bleep out the. God damn it. Yeah, that's the only thing that's a problem. They said that's a one word.

[Ed Larson]

One word.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a one word. They said save it for what you need.

[Ed Larson]

Think of a couple others.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Just. They just said, really? That word?

[Ed Larson]

Because I don't think it's that bad.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, me neither. We're in the uk, it means friend.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. How you doing?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yo, See you.

[Ed Larson]

Bag.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, whatever. Well, welcome to side Stories. So much worse. So much worse. We just made. We made it all worse. We made it all worse. Hi, I'm Henry Zabrowski.

[Ed Larson]

I'm Ed Larson and I got lips.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Would you. All we have to do is bleep out the crack. I won't bleep out that one too. I got it. All right, we're just gonna get all of those. We're gonna knock all those out. By the way, saying the C word. For those of you just know that I'm not just dropping slurs and that's what you had to bleep out. I love broadcasting.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah. Made for radio.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hey, that's what my mom said.

[Ed Larson]

Watch your ass, Cumulus.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, God. Isn't that a stupid cloud? Guys, I want to say thank you to everybody that gave money and gave a donation to Convoy of Hope that went and delivered supplies to those affected by the Texas floods. And those of you that did it. In the name of Jeffrey Epstein. So far we have. We're close to 20 donations.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

In the name of Jeffrey Epstein. No one said anything. Convoy of Hope is sending people Bibles.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Which of Jeffrey Epstein is amazing. Nothing makes me happier. But now this is over.

[Ed Larson]

So we have to end.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We have to end it. So.

[Ed Larson]

You all are hilarious. Thank you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But I now need, for those of you that sent in this description, I need you to re email us with where we can send you your shirt.

[Ed Larson]

Your shirt, and tell us your size. And we'll do our best because we're just using the shirts that we have in the studio.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We're going to get you a shirt.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So if you're a medium, it might even be a shirt from my home that used to be on my body.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're a medium and you are closer to a large, let us know that. If you're a medium and closest to a small, let us know that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Just say small or say large. I do not hear. We're not here bandy and about size.

[Ed Larson]

We're saying, well, we're almost out of mediums, so if they want a medium, you know, they have to. They have to say that. All right, I am a medium, but I'm closer to a large. Or if you don't have a medium, give me that small. Go for the large, go for the large.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Never go for small.

[Ed Larson]

Unless plenty of 3x. Looking for a night shirt.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Seriously? Everybody's looking to, like, wrap up a bunch of Loose body parts. If anybody has a bunch of old fish that they need to wrap up in a bunch of old, old shirts, then we're gonna send them directly to you. So go to side stories. LPOTL gmail.com. please follow up the receipt. Email. Sending it. We're sending it. It's coming.

[Ed Larson]

You know, and we got a whole bunch of the Eddie's Deli shirts, but they only sent us huge ones. I think they. Everyone thinks I'm so much fatter than I am.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, you.

[Ed Larson]

But that. Like when they made the shirt. This is like a new shirt.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We're just a big guy. Yeah, you are way bigger.

[Ed Larson]

I sound fat.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You do?

[Ed Larson]

I do. Hey, how you doing? Yeah. Oh, I got to get this ham out of my throat.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, that's a triple xl.

[Ed Larson]

Yes, triple xl. But I'm actually just a regular xl.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You are. Because also, when you've taken very good.

[Ed Larson]

Care of yourself, I'll see what happens.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, thank you guys. That came out. Salt Lake City.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We had such a blast this weekend.

[Ed Larson]

What a great place. Both shows were amazing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Super weird place. Natalie got really upset. She went to go look at all the. She did. We did a little bit of Mormon she shows. Yes. Yes. We spent an extra day in Salt Lake City just to make my wife upset. Yeah, but that's called vacation.

[Ed Larson]

Usually you could do that at home.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes, normally. Normally. That's normally where I keep it. You know why? Because it's free. I can get upset in there for free. But no, it was just because of all the crimes of the LDS Church that we were watching. And then I was doing my funny, kind of semi sarcastic like, you know. You know, because right next to Temple Square, they used to have a park where people could go. And instead what they realize is that it was getting jammed up with all of these, like people wanting handouts or free food and all this stuff. Like they were some kind of.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, because they know about all the money that the Mormons are.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, like there's some kind of helpful religion or whatever. And so what they did instead was that they turned that whole area into a luxury mall. Like they just made it into a gigantic stone bound, outdoor fancy mall that had giant gates that went up on the Sunday because it's fully private property and it allows them to not only make money because they are obviously capitalistic indebted, ever, the Mormons. And they also allow to get the. They don't. They can then move the homeless to the far out stretches near the base of the mountain.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then Natalie and I walk through a homeless encampment and they're crispy. They're crispy out there.

[Ed Larson]

No, they are. They are.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But yeah, the temple now.

[Ed Larson]

Crispy as in like sunburnt or just like angry?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Both. And as they should be. And everybody going in and out of the temple square is watching you. A lot of little Mormon families. And we. So we went and walked through. But Natalie did appreciate my understanding of like. Yeah, of course. This makes sense. This is what the Mormon church does.

[Ed Larson]

Is this where I bought my elder outfit?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, that was not bad.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Mall. No, it's noted me Very, very fancy. But it will never know. Why do the Mormons buy a Lululemon if they hate ass?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. What is your problem?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't know.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, you never know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hey. Yeah, I guess it's money. I guess they just. They just like money and they don't care what weird slides up people's cracks. So slc you never disappoint the wise guys. Was great.

[Ed Larson]

Why is you guys great? We got some other ones come us. September 21st in Kansas City. October 24th, Redway, California. And November 30th in Columbus, Ohio. We got some side story shows for you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We're going to have a really good time now, guys. Okay. So we spent a lot of time on the road, and Eddie and I, we actually had a wonderful pool hang with Joe Pera.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And Carmen Christopher, where we got to see each other's bodies and talk each individually about how we're afraid of dying on the road.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because it's one of those. It's like a. It's like a comedian nightmare after Bob Saget, you know, his tragic accident. All these types of things. If he wasn't on the photograph, Joe.

[Ed Larson]

Didn'T have a shirt off, but he did have his shirt off in the pool. And he's Henry. And I got to see.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's hot.

[Ed Larson]

Joe Paris shirtless body.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And he's trying to grow chest hair.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's doing his best, which I really appreciate because. But last time he was as literally as slick as an eel.

[Ed Larson]

How do you think that happens?

[Henry Zabrowski]

What do you mean?

[Ed Larson]

How do you get hair later in life?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Becoming a man.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Going through.

[Ed Larson]

He was always a man, baby.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You got to go through some stuff.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Hey, go out there.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because he's probably had a punch. A mailman. I'm sure he probably had to yell at a plane leaving an airport. You ever had to do that?

[Ed Larson]

Yell at a plane? Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're not coming back here. Like, you know, you had to do some man stuff.

[Ed Larson]

I usually yell at the bank. Yeah, yeah, that's my favorite place.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, Something like that. That allows chest hair to sprout. So anybody out there looking to become more masculine, go yell at an institute. In an institution. The key is to get thrown out of a government building. That's how you start to develop even more masculine traits. It's gender affirming.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But this is not any tour that we're about to talk about.

[Ed Larson]

God, yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is one of the bigger stories that we have continued to follow. And honestly, I'm saying to. I'm saying this to y'.

[Ed Larson]

All.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We are not even asking for this.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. This is. This is crazy.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is one of those where people keep saying, saying, why do you keep bringing up Annabelle the Doll? Even after the Ed and Lorraine Warren series, we all know that they're full of everybody's t. Everybody's all, you know, like, good, let's not talk about the haunted properties of Annabelle the Doll. Let's take a look at it. So Annabelle the Doll has been on tour, Right. So far.

[Ed Larson]

The weekend in Gettysburg.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She did. She went to Gettysburg. Everybody's favorite summer location. Nothing I love better than sitting with my family on the fields of Gettysburg with several Coney island dogs, some hot coffee, couple of packs of cigarettes, watching my daughter grow up, smoking them, eating hot dog me, and just imagining what it's like to watch all those men die. Right. You know, I love being at Gettysburg, so. But this is. This was not a fun time at Gettysburg for this gentleman. So Annabelle, as you know, has been on tour, and she's been causing a lot of. Annabelle burnt down a plantation. Annabelle freed prisoners from a New Orleans jail. Now, we already know this, and then we know Annabelle went missing.

[Ed Larson]

She also went to San Antonio, which got crazy floods.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Crazy floods. So Dan Rivera, who was the lead investigator for the New England Society for Psychic Research, nesper. He's a U.S. army veteran. Right now, he's essentially Annabelle's tour manager.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He is taking her around on this new tour, the Devil's on the Run tour. Amazing idea. Now, everybody kept saying, hey, why are we taking this supposedly highly deadly haunted doll out of its protective casing and putting it on the road? And I'll tell you why, Eddie. Do you know why?

[Ed Larson]

Because it sells tickets.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, give me some more money. Yeah. So that's why they wanted to do it, but they didn't think about, you know, what they always say? Oh, you only thought about if you could, but nobody ever thought about if you should Whoa. So, you know, in the end, we didn't. They knew they were leaving money on the table. We got to get Annabelle out of retirement. This is what they've done to Elton John several times.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And they finally also haunted doll. She's a hot. He is a. If a human was an evil Jack in the box, it's Elton John. Love him to death. Love him death. I saw him live. He was fantastic. The whole crowd applaud when. When they found out he could stand up off the chair. So this is. So Annabelle has been on tour. Dan Rivera, remember this? It was several weeks ago Annabelle went missing.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. We accused Dan Rivera of lying correctly. And we said that he was faking a video or showed an old video because we thought Annabelle was missing. We heard Annabelle was missing, but you know what?

[Henry Zabrowski]

He didn't do anything to assuage my feelings. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

He didn't respond to you, Henry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, no, no. To none of us, though. To none of us. All he said was the words. It's not a cover up. Stop talking about Annabelle. Did you see him on Truth Social? He just said, stop talking about Annabelle. Right. And we're like, why are you doing this? And someone's. Someone's protesting too much.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But then what really happens to anybody that harbors the devil? Oh, they could burn themselves. So Dan Rivera, Annabelle's tour manager, I guess he finally got her together, brought her to Gettysburg, her favorite place. First thing that happens, Annabelle arrives in town for the tour. The 911 service for all of Gettysburg goes out.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, who's really. What's really happening there? And it's Pennsylvania.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean, it's. I. To be honest, I feel like it's a hotbed for other activity.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what I mean? I feel like that the. There's like a new version of those. The. The blue guys.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Third Are there.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, the new. The new unions.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The new Confederates are there.

[Ed Larson]

They're the grays.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They're the same. They're white. They're white.

[Ed Larson]

They were. Pretty much Everyone was white, but they went.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's. So that's what's bubbling there. So first of all, that happened. Dan Rivera had to come out and say, Annabelle did not. He's been, again, fighting all of this. He's been saying Annabelle did not set a plantation on fire. And he was trying to joke about it, but you could tell he was kind of defensive. He also said that she did not set those prisoners free, which we know for a fact that she did, because she's. And she's antifa.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Then she shut down the 911 calls. Dan Rivera. Yes. Thank you. Then Dan Rivera says, hey, Annabelle definitely didn't shut down the 911 calling services here in Gettysburg, Virginia. Sure. Likely story. What changed that day? What was different that day besides the failing infrastructure of the country? Annabelle was in town. Yes. Right.

[Ed Larson]

She was in Gettysburg.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She was in Gettysburg. And then what happens? They do the tour. They do that show that night, you.

[Ed Larson]

Know, sold out for the weekend.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sold out. Like they said, it was like 1300 tickets.

[Ed Larson]

Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's huge.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's amazing. I wish we had those numbers in Gettysburg. We gotta go there. We gotta do live at Gettysburg.

[Ed Larson]

I think this is actually a great idea.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We're gonna do it on the field.

[Ed Larson]

Only if we could bring Annabelle.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Which one of us is Confederate? Which one of us is Union? I mean, we have to reenact it.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, boy.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Is this bad?

[Ed Larson]

I guess.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Trouble.

[Ed Larson]

Well, Marcus is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Exactly.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. His. His family.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And he's the one. Yeah. He's the one that the. Although the audience likes more.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And I'm from.

[Ed Larson]

I'm from Florida, but my family's Jersey.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Florida was Cuba by that point. It was like it was Spain.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, well, there was some fighting down there, you know, but yeah, he. Marcus is the Confederate.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So Dan, he's gonna love this. He's gonna love. When this is isolated. So they did the show, obviously. They had the meet and greet. Annabelle's out there looking for strange. You know, she's single. She's the first time she's on tour, so you. God knows what she got herself into. Dan Rivera goes back probably to the Residence Inn where he was working at. I don't know where they found him dead. I believe they found him at his hotel, but, yeah, I'm going to blow the lead on there yet. Dan Rivera died mysteriously in the night the day after. They had already gotten a town into Gettysburg. Now they. They. We don't know the cause of death yet. I think I know what it is.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Doll.

[Ed Larson]

Doll. Yeah, it's definitely doll.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Heart stop by doll.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Heart stop by doll. Like they're gonna. They're digging into an autopsy right now. They said the autopsy could take several.

[Ed Larson]

Months, but he died in this hotel. It doesn't look like there's any nice hotels by Gettysburg. Unfortunately, it might not have been a good place where he died.

[Henry Zabrowski]

What's the nicest hotel by Gettysburg?

[Ed Larson]

Well, they square.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, that seems nice.

[Ed Larson]

It looks expensive. More than. It's nice.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I wonder if he's there.

[Ed Larson]

The Union Hotel. So that's where the winners stay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. As they should.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They don't have a Confederate hotel, do they?

[Ed Larson]

I think the rest of them are Confederate.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Or is it just the homes?

[Ed Larson]

The Dobbin House, maybe. Oh, the Gaslight in. They tell you it's Union, but it's. But it's Confederate from your grave. I love my feet. I love them so much. They're really good. Just like Brian Wilson said, to take care of your feet. And I know what you're thinking. I didn't know he said that. And that's because it wasn't a popular song. But he did say it. But that's not what we're here to talk about today. We're not here to talk about Brian Wilson and all of his great music. We're here to talk to you about Bombas. Because they take care of your feet. They gave me a couple, you know, not to tell anyone too much about what happens here when you're reading ads, but they gave me some bombos and I never put them on my feet before. They gave me some them, and after they gave them to me, boy, oh boy, my feet love Bombas. And bombas seems like they love my feet. And I don't know about you people at home, but my feet sweat. You know, I'm big and I'm walking around and my shoes are tight and, you know, because of, you know, because of the multiple problems I have with my body and, you know what bombas did? They say they don't care about your problems. We're gonna make you feel good no matter what. And they help me. Not just, you know, when I'm walking around town, they. They help me if I. Whenever I'm playing my many matches of tennis, golfing on the greens of Burbank, or hiking through the mountains of Big Bear. Bombas, they're right on my putties. And I know what you're saying, Ed. What are putties? Putties are feet, and my putties are covered in bombas. And yours should be too. Head over to bombas.com and use the code LPOTL for 20 off your first purchase. That's B O M B A S.com code LPOTL at checkout. That's bombas.com and use code LPOTL. Be good to them feet. They're the only ones you get.

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Nothing I love better than performing at an old vacated orphanage.

[Ed Larson]

So now that we got all these dead soldiers, what are we gonna do with their children?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I say we put him to work in a soulless, empty building.

[Ed Larson]

Amazing. We'll bring a doll here 160 years later to kill a man.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I hope it does. So, Dan Revell, Dan Rivera, they went to the. So can you even imagine that you spend your afternoon to Gettysburg and where you have dinner at the orphanage?

[Ed Larson]

So did he died at the hotel or did he die in front of Annabelle?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, he died at the hotel. Where was Annabelle? In the other queen bed? Yeah, he definitely. It's not like she's sitting in the car. Annabelle's in that room.

[Ed Larson]

You don't think they left her at the orphanage? She probably loves it there.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah, but I think that's the problem. She likes it too much.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then she can't. She's gonna get canceled.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, because Annabelle is What? She's a six year old girl, right?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, it's a 90 year old pedophile man inside of her.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, you've heard the character. I do.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I've heard the character. You do, but I thought it was a little girl.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think he's. That's like a mixture with the Enfield Poltergeist as well. It's the same thing. It's a bit of a. I thought that the character from the conjuring was the old ghost. The old man ghost. That's a conjuring too.

[Ed Larson]

That's conjuring too. I. It says here in the New York Post, the psychic medium claimed the doll was inhabited by the spirit of a dead six year old girl called Annabelle. And the Warren said it was demonically possessed and moved the doll to the museum in Connecticut.

[Henry Zabrowski]

See, the doll's gonna say anything that you want to hear. Okay? The doll doesn't. Is not. It has no agency. The doll is gonna say, of course the ghost and the demon inside of it's going to little girl. I wouldn't do anything wrong. And you know, guess what they're really doing, man? They're baiting kids.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, they're bait all right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And so Dan Rivera died in the unceremoniously won't name the hotel. We're just gonna choose one. Yeah, choose one, Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, I. I still think. I mean, I just deleted my page.

[Henry Zabrowski]

About hotels, but I do love calling.

[Ed Larson]

It the gas light in. We'll say it's the gas.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Like, I just think it's amazing, but, you know, also. But I. I do want to give, like, an honest, heartfelt. I'm sorry to the family of Dan Rivera.

[Ed Larson]

I think you should apologize for calling him a liar.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, I will, because there's no proof that he wasn't lying.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, the fact that Annabelle was in Gettysburg.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But I think it's. I think she was missing for a period of time.

[Ed Larson]

You think she was missing and he got her back?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes, I think that he probably left her on a bus. And I think that they. I think it was. I don't think Annabelle necessarily left on her own cognizance. I think that technically he. He might have left her in an Uber.

[Ed Larson]

Well, they did recently build her a new display.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, I know. She's got her mobile display, and so now she's like John Paul ii that she.

[Ed Larson]

With her new display. They said that they used holy water and stuff like that mixed with the paint.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Dan Rivera himself said that when he was in the company of Annabelle, he was wearing three different crucifixes, and one was stained with a stain that included holy water in the stain. It didn't work?

[Ed Larson]

No, it didn't work at all.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because you know what? Also, it didn't help against high cholesterol.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah, that might be the problem. The food in Gettysburg. I'm guessing it's all burgers.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I can't imagine. I feel like now they probably have like one vegan place. There's More and more embracing of that side of things. But I think it's mostly French fries. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But, you know, it's. It's sad. I. But I feel. I feel for Dan Rivera's family. But he was taking. He knew what he was getting himself involved in.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I mean, well, he works for Annabelle. Or used to, anyway.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Listen, if you're, like, trying to think, who's a dangerous musician?

[Ed Larson]

Van Morrison.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Are you Van Morrison's tour manager? You know, you gotta watch your shins because Van Morrison likes to kick.

[Ed Larson]

He's a kicker.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He likes kick.

[Ed Larson]

He's a kicker and a drinker. Spitter, too.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He is icky. It's literally a kicker in a spitter. He'll slap you. He'll bite you. Alpaca.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, he isn't dead. It's like being with a herd dog, you know? Like, he's intense. So when you are tour managing Van Morrison, you know, wear thicker pants. You're gonna hang out. You're gonna need to keep your head on a swivel. You're gonna keep them liquored up. Right?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Dan Rivera should have been kind of maybe more dialed in about what were Annabelle's needs.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because now. Where's Annabelle?

[Ed Larson]

She's just sitting in Danny's bird now.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Orphanage. I want to know, is she just at the orphanage? Apparently she was in the hotel room while he was dead. This is what I'm saying. She's in the other queen bed. She was just sitting there. If I was the cops, I would have shot it three times.

[Ed Larson]

You might as well, dude.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If I was the guy, yo. Yeah. You walk into a room, you see a dead paranormal investigator half laying out of the bed with the foam in his mouth, and you look and you see Annabelle perched up on the chair of the hotel room.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And you mean to tell me you're not putting two in her head? Well, you shoot her in the goddamn head or you rip her open looking for fentanyl because it's quite possibly he might got some of that Gettysburg toot, and I have no idea if that Gettysburg toot is clean.

[Ed Larson]

No. No, it's certainly not. So still scheduled, is Annabelle coming to Maine in September with who? With Tony Spura.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, Tony Sparrow's coming out.

[Ed Larson]

Tony Sparrow? Yeah, it's Tony Sparrow is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Tony Sparrow's coming out.

[Ed Larson]

I think he was in. I think. I believe he was there, too.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He is the. I believe, yes. He's the paranormal, Reacher. He's the son in law of Lorraine and Edward Lauren Warren. I think we still Remember Chris Gallerin.

[Ed Larson]

And Wade Kirby also be there. Dan Rivera has not been taken off the poster yet.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You need to do that, guys. You need to make that move.

[Ed Larson]

It's still fresh. I don't think they're in. Internet works too well right now, so. But also, Annabelle's going to be in Lexington, Kentucky for Scare Fest.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Stop plugging her.

[Ed Larson]

October 19th.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, we got to know. Let's not. People are dying here, okay? Dan Rivera was her road manager, her opener, her friend, her travel manager, okay? And Annabelle fucking put. Just. Just killed him. Tony Sparrow's next.

[Ed Larson]

Is this weird that I want to see Annabelle more now?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Of course. No, no, it's not weird at all.

[Ed Larson]

Would you go see Annabelle? Yeah, yeah, right, of course. But do you think we've talked so much at.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, I'm. No, I have much respect, but I don't. But in terms of like, I know she's a killer and I like. And I get that.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. But she belongs in her prison. Do you think it was because he took her out of the box and brought it to the hotel room? That's where she killed him.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The only thing that. I mean, a lot of people have been getting on me for this style of content before, but I think the only thing that could have maybe happened is I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but hopefully he didn't make a move on Annabelle. Oh, yeah, because maybe that's kind of what. Because I bet you on some level he's like, yeah, sure, she's a six year old ghost, but that ghost was made like 90 years ago.

[Ed Larson]

Well, do you think the dress is sewn on? Do you think it unzips?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, I don't know. No.

[Ed Larson]

No. You don't think it unzips?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't like that idea. I don't like that idea. Yeah, but I could see Annabelle getting revenge.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. One thing I do know about Annabelle, she's on the rag, you know what I'm saying? Because she's raggedy and all.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Disgusting.

[Ed Larson]

It was disgusting.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Unbelievable. She's too young for a period.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, you know, why does she have. All right, if she.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She's having her period at six. That's bad. That's problems. There's stuff in the milk. There's too many hormones in the milk. I get what RFK Jr saying. You would even believe this girl's gonna have to have periods of the experience to eat experience. Everywhere. Everywhere I go, every elementary school I go to, I go to each. Every one of those elementary schools and I just Check all the little girls for periods. That's the end of that story now. I mean, no.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. No.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean, no, it's not. She's gonna kill Tony Sparrow next. There is no way that Tony Sparrow is good. Dan Rivera looked like Timothy Shamole next to Tony Sparrow. You know what I mean? Like Dan Rivera looked like he was filled with life. Tony Sparrow looks like Tony. Tony Sparrow is not going to eat good enough to live on the road.

[Ed Larson]

Do you think that there's a chance that Tony Sparrow knows that Annabelle needs to kill to stay popular?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Maybe he feeds her deaths.

[Ed Larson]

Do you think that maybe pillow over Rivera's face by Tony Sparrow to make Annabelle look more evil and framing Annabelle.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Tony sparrow side stories. LPOTL gmail.com. you have one chance to exonerate yourself before I assume that you're killing your own investigators for PR purposes. Yes. There's no evidence. There's no evidence there to say that that's what happened.

[Ed Larson]

There's no evidence to say that it isn't.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Exactly.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Except for the fact we do. Yeah. Yes.

[Ed Larson]

The cause of death has not been revealed yet.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No. Because I mean we will. We'll find out what it is. I. I'm just.

[Ed Larson]

Imagine it's chili fries.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm hoping it's just a normal heart attack and this won't be worse news for everybody involved. You know what I mean? I hope it's just a normal good old fashioned heart attack. 54 years old. That's up. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wondering whether or not he got that Gettysburg toot.

[Ed Larson]

There's Tony Sparrow.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Tony sparrow looked like 40 years ago.

[Ed Larson]

No, he really did.

[Henry Zabrowski]

There is no way he is going to last two days with Annabelle on tour. It's like being with Vince.

[Ed Larson]

Neil, he dyes his beard red.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, looks like.

[Ed Larson]

What is that?

[Henry Zabrowski]

He says no, Eddie, he's as young as he's ever been. Look at him. This was in Gettysburg.

[Ed Larson]

This is in Gettysburg.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. The last time he was in Gettysburg, this was. They published an article about the Gettysburg visit right before man died. What is Tony Sparrow doing with all the bracelets? Why does he have so much jewelry on?

[Ed Larson]

I mean, it's all kind of. It's gotta have, you know, holy water in it or something.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, protection. Yeah, sure, definitely. Well, just go.

[Ed Larson]

Just honestly that she will spare his life.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I hope not because we need more to talk about.

[Ed Larson]

Man is crazy. I can't believe. So Annabelle is just killing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is just been the longest Annabelle run I have heard and it doesn't Stop. It's not stopping. Tony Sparrow is next.

[Ed Larson]

He has to be.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what's next after that?

[Ed Larson]

What?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Washington, D.C. whoa. Annabelle Tours the White House. White House challenge.

[Ed Larson]

Whoa. I mean, he does like young redheads. Yeah, he does.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, he does. But you know, hey, papa, blonde wig on her. She might have a shot. All right, so let's get on to this next story. Casey Anthony's got a bob.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. She's got a. She got a. She got a small haircut.

[Henry Zabrowski]

All right. That's just really as far as I'm going to go.

[Ed Larson]

It is, yeah. She looks like shit. Someone put a show on her neck. I guess it's where it's like, this is where you should choke me to death.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I will quickly say this. So we said. So we. People sent this article to us.

[Ed Larson]

It.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's literally page seven mixed with our lives here where it's. It's a pap. It's a paparazzi picture of Casey Anthony on a date in New Hampshire. To be honest. Doesn't look like it's going well.

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The guy looks like he is tired and upset and it looks like she's info dumping on him wherever they're at. Now, now most people are talking about her severe. Bob and I. I'm not going to join in on that. But I am going to say what Eddie and I realized. We had a little side discussion. And this is. I'm going to say this without like I want to. How do I take. Take the misogyny off it. Right? Let's take it off and just say I believe. Believe her evil power is the fact that she's getting hotter. It's not that. It's just not just the fact that she's getting dummy thick and it's looking good. It's the fact that some people, like most people that were under. That are under a certain amount of stress. Right. Casey Anthony, if you really thought, if she had a soul she would be under a certain amount of stress that would probably make her look worse. Right. In terms of. Stress hurts you. Stress is a thing that ages be hot. But I don't think she's stressed. I'm. That's what I'm saying. She has no conscious. So it's allowing her to thrive. And so she is, you know, she's, she's with it. She's got that. She's got a kind of a glam is on thing going on.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. She's hanging out in, in New Hampshire.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, you know, everybody loves New Hampshire.

[Ed Larson]

She's at a Bar called Season Tickets, and she's not wearing a bra.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This just in, but yeah, that's really. As far as that goes. I just mostly we're all kind of keeping tabs in her. She's. She's already talked about doing some kind of only fans comedy special. She tried to be a victim advocate. The audience didn't like it, and so she has. She's still trying to figure it out, but she is definitely. She's going to be. I'm going to say next. Next. Trump's term. She's going to be in charge of the Department of Transportation.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Secretary of Baby Children Defense.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, exactly. The.

[Ed Larson]

So this isn't her old boyfriend that we were talking about a couple weeks ago. This is a new guy.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Whoa. She just destroyed that other guy's life and moved on?

[Ed Larson]

I guess so. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Whoa. That's kind of crazy. No way. Not Casey Anthony.

[Ed Larson]

TMZ says this was a first date.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, wow. And that guy. That guy looks stressed.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because you see, you know where the one eyes looking right at that camera.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's looking dead at the camera that is taking a picture of him and Casey Anthony on a date.

[Ed Larson]

He looks very bored. In this other picture, she's looking at.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Showing us her. His phone. She's just. Oh, God. What do you even ask her? What's the date about?

[Ed Larson]

Do. Do you think that maybe, like, halfway through the date, he didn't know? He just thought he was, like, on a Tinder date with this hot chick named Casey.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, I. You know what? I. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt that he just matched with the chick named K.C. he probably, like, she looks familiar. Whatever.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. No bra. And then, like, literally, like, because. Because men, unfortunately, it's sometimes with, you know, Cishet men, they think they don't. Things don't sink in.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They don't full. They don't fully. You're maybe fully. And asking questions. Okay. And so I think that that might. I'm gonna give them the benefit.

[Ed Larson]

They wanted to watch the Red Sox game, so they're red. So. And there's even worse. They were sipping on Bud Lights, and Casey ordered a club sandwich and he got a steak sub.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I know so much. It's because the whole restaurant was talking about so weird.

[Ed Larson]

I have, like, slowly but surely, as I get older, falling in love with tmz. And I wish it wasn't true.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They are so evil.

[Ed Larson]

I hate them.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They are.

[Ed Larson]

But I Just. I'm drawn to it. I can't help myself. Every time, like every. I'm looking at today's stories. 4. All four are TMZ.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Dude, TMZ is evil.

[Ed Larson]

Broke the Dan Rivera story.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes, TMZ is evil, but they get the information. They. They really do. And so we don't. We're not supporting them, but we're entertained by them.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Wow. Yeah. That is a bad. It is a bad Bob. Now that I'm looking at it. It's. It's definitely. I'm so bad.

[Ed Larson]

It looks like a Frank.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hello. It is. I not just want to talk to your manager. I'm gonna kill your manager haircut. That is what that is. Is your manager a little girl? Let me take care of her for you. But yeah, that's really the. That's the hot goss on Casey Anthony. And we cover it here. Now this other story that Eddie found is the single worst thing I've seen all my month.

[Ed Larson]

Which one is this? Is this.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You made me look at this.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah, man. This one's a great one.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This one is this. I don't like this story. This story.

[Ed Larson]

Terrifying.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Really, really, really gross.

[Ed Larson]

Don't call it a comeback. I've been here for years, baby. The screw worm is back. That's right. We're all getting up by screw worm, baby. Yeah. Back in the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The saddle again.

[Ed Larson]

Back in the cow again. So the screw worm is an. Is a man eating worm that has been turning Honduras into a goddamn nightmare.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is so awful. So it's like this fly that can land on an open wound and it can shoot between 30 and 500 eggs.

[Ed Larson]

300 to 500.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh my God. And then you. They turn into these screw worms. They're the black headed cent meter long and they just slowly but surely screw into your body. They burrow through you until they get.

[Ed Larson]

To your lungs and they get to your brain and they just find the way through your vessels and they're impossible to get out. They have to do like tweet surgical tweezers to find them. There's this chick who. She got. She was in the hospital in Honduras and usually they're just like dealing with people getting like killed with machetes and because it's really dangerous place. And then this chick's in there and scaring all the nurses because she's got screw worms coming out her nose. She's. Every time she like blows her nose, a bunch of these screw worms come out. She's just screaming in pain.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm just going to hear. I'm going to even read this because it's like I. So this is horror. It's horrific. This guy. There's one picture in this article of a guy who got skin cancer and the screw worms jumped onto his skin cancer and just burning their way into his brain. And it's like. It's bad, dude. It's bad. And largely it's because, you know, we. I don't want to get even more political anymore this week, but it's like, like idea that it's a. We funded a program for a while.

[Ed Larson]

We killed the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Out of these screw for 30 years. And they've just kind of decided to come back. Right. Because we decided to stop sending sterilized flies to go stop and create this sort of artificial barrier between these. Because normally these things affect cattle.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. And the illegal cattle trade, which I didn't know was a thing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I did not know that cartels also sold illegal beef. Beef. And that they did. They were also in the beef industry and in the oil industry.

[Ed Larson]

Makes me like them a little.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean, it's intense. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, but they said that the trafficked cattle, like all this, like smuggled cattle, had the screw worm and now it's jumping from cattle to people now. This is like. This is just horrible. Right?

[Ed Larson]

And it used to not attack people, but now it's in people. That's the other thing that's really weird. The screw worm used to leave people alone, but now it's fucking eating people.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, this. This happened to a young woman named Raina. They said the presence of worms were so far up the cavity, without a swift response, they could have gnawed into Reina's brain. This is from Reina. During the bus ride, some of the worms had ventured into my mouth. I've been sneezing a lot and every time some come out. Five hour bus ride. It's been two days now. The pain in my head is so intense it makes me wince. I can feel them in my nose because it's so sensitive. I can feel them moving. I can sense them like they are forcing their way higher into my nose. I have no idea why I was targeted. Maybe it happened while I was asleep. What can I do? Can we please watch Resident Evil on this bus? I would love to do it. And then the later. So the reporters watching her. And then the doctor comes by like, this is just brutal. The reporters there being like, later. I watched a doctor squirt saline solution into rain his nostrils, which leads to a few more worms Emerging itching.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. But they, these worms have killed a couple people so far. They get, yes, they get into your body and they literally screw themselves in deeper and deeper and deeper. All right. And they, they will come through any sort of. Like this one guy took a band aid off just to let his wound breathe for what was minutes, he said.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then he was a homeless guy, which is really sad.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, but. Yeah, but then the flies got in there and they built their screw worms and these people are getting screwed that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Die said he said they bite really hard. I could feel about 10 different worms at one time.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And if you look at the, the cups of the worms. It's rough, man. Yeah, it's real, real rough. And this is after I watched the stupid Top Chef episode the other night where they were all eating bugs. All fun. They're all like this new thing too is like, like, which I do believe is the subtle like everybody's got used to eating bugs because it's going to be the main like form of our protein one day and it's slowly but surely like kind of like dipping its way more and more to pop culture. Right. I think that, I think that's like one of those like government disseminate information dissemination projects that we're a part of. But I don't want to eat these ones.

[Ed Larson]

No, you can't eat them because they'll just eat you. 78 year old Maria Consuelo lives in Colonia, a volatile neighborhood said to be controlled by ms.13. She had they, they took over her foot. Do you see this?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh no. I'm watching. Yeah, they definitely gentrified her foot.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'd call it. Yeah, that's what I'd call it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Like, it's like they all moved in from Wisconsin.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah. The fly must have laid eggs. When the gauze on my wound was not applied tightly the next day I felt like there was something digging inside my lathe. Itching was unbearable.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Rob is just squirming. We are kill right now. This is nasty, dude. It's just more like this is the kind of stuff we might see happen over and over again. Because we don't know why. They don't know really why it came back so intensely and why it jumped to humans so quickly.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, no, they don't know why, why it's happening, but it's definitely happening. And the illegal cattle trade is what is sparking it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's almost like it's all tied together.

[Ed Larson]

It's almost like there's a stomach issues and they're all tied together. Who said that? I'm terrified by this.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah, you should be.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, man.

[Henry Zabrowski]

As you should be. That's why I'm. I just feel bad for the. Oh, the cows are just happy this hasn't happened. They're leaving us alone.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, they, they said it hasn't really happened in 16 years, but now it's starting to happen a lot and down in Honduras and it's coming to Mexico.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, go head on down to Honduras and spend some of this tourist money because they need it. All right? Just don't mind the worms. They do need that. They do need that tourism money. If you could. This is an advertisement from BetterHelp. Oh, people are really getting stressed out of work. Not me. All I do is make them laugh. And there's nothing stressful about making people laugh. Not the most esoteric, nebulous thing in the world. But for those of you that do experience workplace stress, it's now as well. It's considered one of the top causes of declining mental health. With 61% of the global workforce experiencing higher than normal levels of stress. It's almost like none of us like to work this hard. Most of us can't wave goodbye to work. But we could start small with a focus on wellness. With over 30,000 therapists worldwide, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally. Maybe they can make you feel better. And it works. With an App store rating of 4.9 out of 5 based on over 1.7 million client reviews. And that's just in the numbers. It's in the numbers. It works. It's convenient too. It's on your computer. So that makes it super convenient. You don't have to go to some weird giant international hub in the basement of a of a skyscraper, just on your computer. Very easy. So as the largest online therapy provider in the world, BetterHelp can provide access to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of expertise. Our listeners get 10% off their first [e-mail] LastPod that's better. H E L P.com LastPod Whether your child is trying to catch up, stay sharp or get a head start for the fall. I Excel can make learning a seamless part of summer. Summer. Who doesn't love to learn during the summer? I Excel is an award winning online learning platform that helps kids truly understand what they're learning, whether they're brushing up on math or diving into social studies. I think IXL is one of the best things ever happened to me and my family. It's taught Carmi how to read. It's taught Wendy how to do our taxes. Honestly, it's just nice because I just pay them in check. Chicken. That's all they want is chicken and kibs. Make an impact on your child's learning. Get IXL now and last podcast on the left. Listeners can get an exclusive 20% off IXL membership when they sign up today at ixl.com last visit ixl.com last to get the most effective learning program out there at the best price. You know what doesn't belong in your epic summer plans? Getting burned by your old wireless bill. While you're planning beach trips, barbecues and three day weekends, your wireless bill should be the last thing holding you back. Make the switch to Mint Mobile. Don't let your mobile service be sold to you by a couple of guys on a podcast. With Mint. You can get the coverage and speed you're used to, but for way less money money. And for a limited time, Mint mobile is offering three months of unlimited premium wireless service for 15 bucks a month. I got my Mint Mobile directly from Ryan Reynolds. I met him in a parking lot. He didn't know I was going to be there. I had followed him from his home. I told him what my plans were, who I was and what I was all about. He subscribed to the podcast, of course. But then in order to deter me from the rest of my plans, Ryan Reynolds gave me a free phone. And I gotta say, it really turned my life around. Because while I was desperate, scared and wondering how I was gonna work my way out of all of the various messes I had worked myself into, Mint Mobile showed me that there was a way to survive. So this year, skip breaking a sweat and breaking the bank. Get this new customer offer and your three month unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month. Month@mint mobile.com lpotl that's mintmobile.com lpotl Upfront payment of $45 required equivalent to 15amonth limited time. New customer offer for first three months only. Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes. An unlimited plan, taxes and fees, extra cement Mobile for details. That was one interesting thing. Now this other story. You would think it also would have come from this part of the world, but no. It came from Cleveland. Ohi okay. A ship that docked in Cleveland last summer. They have now. There was a goo right underneath this boat. It was a research vessel called the Blue Heron. It was monitoring harmful algal blooms and Lake Erie, which I think is largely caused by the people.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I just assume you've been to Lake Erie.

[Ed Larson]

No, but we're going to be in Cleveland the Saturday after Thanksgiving. I'm excited to maybe get some of this algae bloom on me.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I hope that we can get some of this mysterious goo to come to the show. Show. Now this they found at the bottom of this, this, this thing right now, the Captain Raleigh, he piloted the boat to Cleveland where it was in there was the Great Lake shipyard where he was. Had the car. The boat was having mechanical issues. And when they. The. The propeller shaft bearings needed replacing, apparently. And then when they opened it, they noticed this tar like substance oozing from the rudder post. And it was normally hidden component of the ship's steering apparatus. They didn't know what it was at first. They thought it was like, like, they thought it was like grease. Yeah, right. A glop of the glue.

[Ed Larson]

Plop.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They plopped it in water. They like scraped some off and they plopped it in water, but it didn't leave a sheen. So that's how they knew it wasn't grease. And so then they try to shoot it with blowtorch.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Which is what did we learn from the thing, you know, hold. You want to put that in a controlled environment. They try to burn it with a blowtorch. And it wouldn't burn.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Right. So that's, that's concerning. Right. So then they brought it to the University of Minnesota delivery sleuth. We could all. We can go take a look at it. That's when old Doug Ricketts, he was a marine superintendent for the Blue Heron, he figured it out. They went and they went, they took it over. They, they brought it to a guy named Cody Chic. They were working on the. They. They put it all together. Basically, they found that whatever this thing is, is a new, like, DNA strand. It's something new. And they've called it. Guess what.

[Ed Larson]

What?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Ship goo one.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That is the name of it. Ship goo 001 is the official name of this new DNA strand. We don't know what the hell it is. The discovery of the Grude the goo demonstrates how life can exist in unique places, including built environments. We're seeing it more with like the algae and the bacteria that can consume plastic.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Or the animals that can, like, live in giant rivers of trash. So, like, in many ways, I know many people are very concerned about the environment, but I think it's fun to challenge nature. Right. That's all it Is that's all pollution is.

[Ed Larson]

Chaos theory.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a challenge to nature to see if what they can do with it. And they're. They're succeeding wildly. They're turning into black goo.

[Ed Larson]

This is upsetting, but Lake Erie has never been known to be clean. No, no, it's not like this is like coming from a place where like, oh, Lake Erie's nice.

[Henry Zabrowski]

There's a lot of like new for some reason around the Michigan area of like, like go visit Lake Erie, bring your family to Lake Erie. And it's like you guys keep begging me to go. Yeah, we're at Lake Huron.

[Ed Larson]

You're right there.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what I mean? Lake Huron's nice also.

[Ed Larson]

Lake Michigan. They should be promoting that. Michigan.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But why do I need to go to Lake Erie? It's going to suck.

[Ed Larson]

It is. It's notoriously stinky.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But same time side stories. LPOTL gmail.com. what do you like about Lake Erie?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And why is it the new black goo? And if we're going to go take our black goo out on a date. 8. Where are we going in Lake Erie?

[Ed Larson]

I know. I. One thing I always know about Cleveland. Cheeseburger Town.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You mean like the cheeseburgers Mayor and the police?

[Ed Larson]

I wish. Oh my God. Oh yeah. No, no, it's. It's got lots of good cheeseburgers there. Well, I'm excited for that. This story intrigued me. You didn't seem to care about it, but let's just talk about it for two seconds.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Which one?

[Ed Larson]

The hospice nurse. She got in trouble because she amputated.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is an update.

[Ed Larson]

Technically, it's an update. Yes. So a Wisconsin nurse who amputated patient's frostbitten foot without authorization and planned to use it as a ghoulish display in her family's taxidermy shop was given a sweetheart plea deal, which she will serve no time in prison and just pay $443 in court costs.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hey, you know, cuz, in the end she was just trying to do something fun with it.

[Ed Larson]

She took off a man's foot.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But I feel like in the end he wasn't using it anymore.

[Ed Larson]

He was going to die soon. He was frostbitten.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. She technically saved his life, which I think was probably looked at the.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, days later. Well, you know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, he didn't need the foot.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. No. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

By that point she's already got the foot.

[Ed Larson]

She was initially charged with intentionally causing great bodily harm and mayhem.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

And physically abusing an elder person. But the felonies which could have carried a maximum sentence of 40 years in prison. Were dismissed after she pled guilty to lesser charges. She was given a misdemeanor.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, she took a plea.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. No, she took a plea.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, sure. Great. I mean, that's what she did. They gave her a crazy deal, probably. You know, you look at the person's history. She was a nurse. She had. If she didn't have any other criminal history. If it's really just. In the end, it's an art project in a dumb, disgusting way. So I feel like I could see a judge being lenient.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I could see it. You know, he was in hospice care, you know, and she. But she called his feet mummy feet.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, they were, but I also. They became mummy.

[Ed Larson]

That. Yes, that's what she did.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That was her artistry. And it wasn't like he was the kicker for the Eagles. You know what I mean? Like, the. The. The foot was. Was garbage.

[Ed Larson]

The plan was she was going to taxidermy his black foot and put a sign next to it that said, wear your boots, kids.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, that's actually great idea.

[Ed Larson]

I guess so.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's like a joke. It's like a joke. It's like a funny joke. It's a good warning, too. It's also, I feel. Feel like she's an interesting woman on the fact that she even thought of it. But she's a nurse.

[Ed Larson]

The nursing home administrator had told police that he explicitly told Brown not to perform the amputation. And she did.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, you see, I do believe that that's, like, the real issue here.

[Ed Larson]

Got extremely upset. Quotation marks.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. I don't think we need the quotation marks. I think that she obviously was very upset, but also, like, what if you gave her the foot?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Oh, she said that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But did she want the foot?

[Ed Larson]

When I found out, I pretty much lost it. He had a heart of gold. Phenomenal artist.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. And a foot of.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And the problem is, as a foot.

[Ed Larson]

Foot of foot of coal full of.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm just saying, like, the idea of, like. You ever see that when you leave? Okay, maybe h. Wow. This is probably not gonna help us, but the idea of that again. No.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You. You leave a jail out. We're gonna beep them out. Have the beef. Each one out now.

[Ed Larson]

Damn it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's what we're doing now.

[Ed Larson]

Rob's gonna need a raise.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We need a special noise for that word. The very end of this is the. You know, people put out a table you don't want anymore. So are you a Criminal. Or like, technically it's like illegal. Like, like if you leave a table out on the street and you saw.

[Ed Larson]

Its legs off without anyone asking. Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And you take those legs and you turn them into, I don't know, like you're gonna make them to look like big horse cocks for the pride parade.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And you're, you have it all set. So that is technically a crime, but it's also art. So I, that's my thing. I think the R tips it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But also I, I, I, I could see that she fired for being a nurse, though, I believe.

[Ed Larson]

No, she's not allowed to be a nurse anymore.

[Henry Zabrowski]

See, that's, that's a, I think that's the bigger punishment of all.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Cuz she loved being a nurse. Obviously.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. She looks like a purse. All right, moving on. No charges for John Elway after he killed his agent in an accident. His agent fell out of his golf cart, hit his head.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Now how do we know that John Elway killed this man? Man?

[Ed Larson]

Well, he was driving the golf cart and this man fell out of the golf cart and he hit his head on the pavement and he died.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Was, Was John Elway intoxicated?

[Ed Larson]

It doesn't seem like he was. I'm gonna say probably. He's on a golf course.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean, I do wonder if John Elway. Because he's got big old chompers.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Now, yeah. Yeah, I guess it's. But how would he be even kind of remotely charged? Why would he be charged? Because it was an accident. Did he crash the, the cart?

[Ed Larson]

It seems like he might have like swerved and the guy fell out. Jeff Spurbeck.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Why was that guy wearing a seat belt or something?

[Ed Larson]

I mean, you're in a golf cart.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's not.

[Ed Larson]

It's a golf cart on a golf course.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But also in a seat belt. You got tuck and roll.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, this guy is 62, he ain't talking nothing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

How f, how fast could John Elway possibly have been going?

[Ed Larson]

I mean, I don't know how fast he was going, but they were, he tried to drift. They were leaving a party after attending the Stage Coach music festival. They were definitely.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, they, he was hammered. His balls. Yeah. Oh, ye. Hammered.

[Ed Larson]

I tell you what, though. Damarino's driving. This don't happen.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. Cuz he's alone in the cart. Cuz he has no friends.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, come on. Come on. Everyone knows that. You can't find a helmet that fits John Elway. His head's too big.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Is, is, Was Dan Marino a friendly.

[Ed Larson]

Man, when I met him, he was.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Nice, but, I mean, in terms of the. Did he have friends?

[Ed Larson]

I'm sure he had friends, but, I.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Mean, he does, but, you know, I'm.

[Ed Larson]

Sure he had lots of friends. I'm sure he's got. I'm sure he's coveted friends. I hope so. I know he. You know, he has a child out of Wetlock. There's one friend that's different.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's called being a responsible athlete. The fact that he even. The fact that he even acknowledges the kid is huge.

[Ed Larson]

I don't think he had a choice.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Y. Well, there's a lot of stuff you can do. They say 600 people die each year in golf cart accidents. Oh, yeah. I can definitely.

[Ed Larson]

Everyone's driving those things drunk. Golf courses. Are you ready for this? Get rid of them. I hate golf.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I know.

[Ed Larson]

Golf sucks.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think it's dumb.

[Ed Larson]

It's so much space. Make a park.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Literally.

[Ed Larson]

Give the land back to the people.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Here's a compromise. Gun range.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. I'd rather be a gun range.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We can all get trained.

[Ed Larson]

Every time someone wants me to play golf with them, I'm like, what do I look like?

[Henry Zabrowski]

It is. It is considered to be the ultimate aging man's bonding experience, and it's just not for me. I don't like golf. I don't like the outfit. I don't like the little clubs. I don't like the tiny ball.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. I don't like the elitism. I don't like that the people who work there can't afford to live any close to it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I just don't like everything about.

[Ed Larson]

I hate that they hit the balls into the water. Don't clean them up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Also, the idea of how many alligators.

[Ed Larson]

Choke on golf balls. I'm sorry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I also hate a sport where it's the least amount of points wins.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It should be the opposite always.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Why?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Most points negative is good. That's stupid.

[Ed Larson]

You.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're dumb.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, man. This.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think I do an. I think I do a commercial for the pg. Yeah. No, we love golf. We love golf.

[Ed Larson]

We do a golf for. We do a golf commercial.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Definitely. Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah. Golfers love listening to True Crime podcast.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They do, actually. They actually. A lot of times golfers love it. And they also, a lot of times make the crimes that allow us to report.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, well.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And that's what we love about golf, is that it keeps guys out there. So get out there, roll up a. Roll up on your favorite court course, and you want to hit that Little ball out there, the other little hole. Have a good time out there.

[Ed Larson]

The only good time I ever had on a golf course is when I was a kid. We broke into one and had a keg party.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, sure.

[Ed Larson]

Destroyed it. And it's a lot of fun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I just want to drink at the bar.

[Ed Larson]

I don't even want to do that. Well, because you got to drink with everyone who plays golf and then they're all.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's why I would just say stuff like. Well, have you heard of. About gay sex? He said it. He said it.

[Ed Larson]

Hey, boys.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hey, boys. Want to take turns with me? Now? Speaking of this, let's. Let's do this little quick story right before we get to letters, because this is pretty great.

[Ed Larson]

Is this. Which one? The chimps. Yes, yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You said this very last week. This is just really funny.

[Ed Larson]

I found this. Go ahead and just play this. This wonderful fella, real Greg Baldwin had an amazing Instagram reaction that I probably should have used on the stream, but it just felt like it was news. Let's just play this and then we could talk about it.

[C]

This is a wild story about the chimpanzees at the LA Zoo. So the alpha male leader, his name is Glenn, right? And he was so successful, they decided to transfer him to another zoo. So chimps are very smart, so they couldn't just have him disappear. Would have caused chaos. Right. So they anesthetized him, they knocked him out, they put him out so all the other chimpanzees can see him and think that he had passed away. They had like a chimp funeral and he went to the other zoo, but things didn't work out, so. So they brought him back and all the chimps went nuts, Right. They thought Glenn had died and he became the leader again, of course. And so Glenn is now like the Jesus of the chimpanzees at the LA Zoo. Back from the dead.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Would make me. Nothing would make me happier if this creates the first chimp religion, like, because that has to be wild. They just mourned him because chimps mourn.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then he just.

[Ed Larson]

They know what's up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They can speak, but he comes back. I'm actually really surprised they didn't all group beat him to death.

[Ed Larson]

Well, I mean, you never know. Well, that. Here's the thing, I'm surprised that didn't happen also because back in 2012, these same chimpanzees group murder murdered a chimp baby.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, that happens actually, quite a bit.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was mauled to death. In front of a crowd of people after the. The. The. You know what else gave birth just killed it immediately.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what else was mauled to death?

[Ed Larson]

What?

[Henry Zabrowski]

The homeless of Salt Lake City. Oh, that's right.

[Ed Larson]

Good pun. Yeah, good pun, buddy. I like it. Hell yeah. Yeah. But the. The infant was born on March 6, 2012, to. To Gracie, who's being allowed to keep the infant overnight. And then an adult male chimp decided that he didn't want that baby around.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, that is. It's very common amongst the chimp community. They're not woke.

[Ed Larson]

Yep.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You guys have to be careful. We all love chimps, but their views are problematic.

[Ed Larson]

Jamie Becker, the zoo's director of mammals, said, I feel bad for the people who saw this happen.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, yeah, sure.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, there were young children that were there.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, they should learn.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Those kids should know that father could do that to them if he so wanted to.

[Ed Larson]

All right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That daddy could regulate if he needs to be scared of your father.

[Ed Larson]

So we got LA Zoo, I feel like just keeps having problems. We had problems with the elephants.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't like zoos anyway. I don't really.

[Ed Larson]

I like zoos a lot, but when they're doing good and the LA Zoo has a decent reputation. But I keep hearing awful stories. Well, yeah, well. But now this is, I guess, a good story. Story. The new one.

[Henry Zabrowski]

What? That's this Jesus. Jesus chimp. I. No, we. See. I don't view any of the. I'm afraid of with the theology of these animals. I actually think it's very concerning. And I guess it's probably good that they didn't beat him to death because then the chimp would have become a martyr and he would have become more of a concept than just a fellow chimp. And I think that would have caused them to rise up.

[Ed Larson]

They know they can't with Glenn. Well, you don't know their ass up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I would check Glenn.

[Ed Larson]

He's the leader.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I was just the new leader.

[Ed Larson]

What happens when you ch that clan?

[Henry Zabrowski]

You get up. It's me, Vanilla Rumsky. I'm the new. I'm the new leader of the monkey group. And the fact that you died. Damn it.

[Ed Larson]

They're apes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're dead. I'm calling us monkeys. I'm taking us back. He's great again. I'm taking this back.

[Ed Larson]

Rip your goddamn arms off. Glenn. No one with Glenn.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Wow. Yeah, I guess not. Well, not even God himself.

[Ed Larson]

He's old.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Fat.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. I think that he's like, just leave me alone. How about I. Why you keep doing this to me. I'm Glenn. Why keep doing this to me? All right, time to do some listener emails. We got some good new Stingers, though.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, we got new stingers for listener emails.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We did. There's. We got.

[Ed Larson]

Are we gonna pick one eventually or we're just gonna. No. Okay. Maybe.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't know. Good. Oh, oh, I want to.

[Ed Larson]

These listeners, too.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Who listener? He. Oh, yeah, that's good. Oh, hot damn. Some white man blues. Hot. Hot man blues. That was really good.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Who said. Who did that one? That one was from Dylan Radek from Akron, Ohio. Good. He's in a band called Sea of Ghosts.

[Ed Larson]

Really good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Really good work. Do we want to play one? One more? Yeah. Yeah, let's check this out. Same guy, different guy. This one. Brandon Coin from San Diego. Check.

[Ed Larson]

This one's from the Lake of Ghosts.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Cool.

[Ed Larson]

I think I like that one more.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Whoa. More than the white man funk.

[Ed Larson]

I think I like it more than white man funk. Well, that one's had. Had some soldiers to it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, that was kind of more noise rock. That was actually. I feel like more. Even Marcus's flavor was cool, though. I like it. Yeah. Like, who did that one? That one was from Brandon Coin. Oh, yeah. Good work. Brandon Coin.

[Ed Larson]

Is he in a band?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Doesn't say. Getting one.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, get in a band, right?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Come on.

[Ed Larson]

Stingers ain't making any money.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Come on, man, get out there. And you know what? Cuz that's how you're going to equal the playing field, especially if you're ugly.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, you should have donated to them in Jeffrey Epstein's name. You would have gotten something. It's amazing how we gave those people more than these people. Like making art for us.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So much more. So much more. But you know, they get a sticker. Yep. No, no, no more. We can't track them all down. Yeah, we got to give all the other ones. Jeffrey Epstein.

[Ed Larson]

Have you ever gotten a good Bigfoot picture, by the way?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No.

[Ed Larson]

Has anyone said shitty ones in?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. Well, I've gotten a lot of people in. Got a lot of people in costume. I've gotten a lot of pictures of other fat men that they say, is that you or is it Bigfoot? Then I get a lot of other pictures of, like, funny Bigfoot statues, but yet I don't even see a grainy one yet. And you guys have to remember, again, side stories. Yell lpotlgmail.com, we're not joking about this. If you come to the Humboldt show and you have a good picture of Bigfoot we're gonna give you a pound of weed. You kind of need to be where the weed is.

[Ed Larson]

Ye.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. Because you can't ship it.

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And we're not driving it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And we can't fly it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. So it's on you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

All right. So it's kind of on you. For both.

[Ed Larson]

I still think it's worth it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I do, too. It's a pound of weed.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

All right, here we go. The Camo Man When I graduated high school in 2014. Christ. A few of my friends and I decided to take a weekend to go rough it in the woods in Sandpoint I, Idaho. After filling the old Jeep Cherokee with what not nearly enough bug spray or food and far too much twisted tea, we drove out to the woods for what was sure to be the best weekend ever. After finding a nice clearing, we decided to set up camp. Tents were placed, campfire was ready to be lit. Marshmallows eagerly waited to be roasted. But the first order of business was exploration. So off we went in the vast wilderness of Sandpoint I, Idaho. But then things started to get weird. We couldn't help but feel as though we were being watched or followed. And we were convinced that we kept seeing something darting between the trees just off in the distance. Being that we were all just 17 or 18 years old, we just played it off by saying it was Bigfoot. But after a few more miles of exploring, we came across a lively and friendly dark dog. We didn't realize we had gone so far that we were now approaching a small cluster of houses. We knocked on the door to a house trying to find out where this dog belongs, and spoke to this man who lived there. And he mentioned something that kind of freaked us out.

[Ed Larson]

That dog's delicious. Have you licked its belly?

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's my wife. He asked us. Have you seen the camo man in the woods? After a short conversation, he explained to us that there is a military veteran who lives near nearby and he spends his time sneaking through the forest in his retired ghillie suit.

[Ed Larson]

Cool.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We are sure that this is what we were seeing, but we were never able to confirm as our trip was cut short due to one of us getting a nasty bug bite, causing his hand to swell up like a balloon. This is 11 years ago and we still talk about camel man. It is weird, the idea of just like, hey, I'm just looking. I mean, don't mind me just looking.

[Ed Larson]

If you have a gilly stuff suit and you're not using it, what's the point?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, I would Wear it to the store. I'd wear it to the mall.

[Ed Larson]

It does it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

People wear it to the restaurant. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

No, you use it to hide.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I do both. It's for hunting, usually. So it's kind of like a red flag, I think if someone's wearing one of those. Hey, how you doing?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hey. Hey. What's going on?

[Ed Larson]

He's just in the woods.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Don't look at me. Don't look at me. I get mad when people look at me. I'll have a cheeseburger and a milkshake.

[Ed Larson]

To me this listener mail is There was a guy where he was supposed to be.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, he wasn't. He was stalking people. Children.

[Ed Larson]

He wasn't stalking anybody.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, he was. He was following them in the. In the woods for pleasures.

[Ed Larson]

I think it's okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, now you guys know what to do to Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

He didn't do anything.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I can't wait for you to do this to Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

This guy did nothing wrong.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The next time we go to any place remotely forest bound, we're going to set this up. Yeah, I just need to get in touch with somebody who has a ghillie suit.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, there's lots of ghillie suit listeners. I guarantee it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah, I want one. I might buy one. Let's do it to myself. Do it too. Immediately. When I google man in ghillie suit, there's man dressed in ghillie suit whistles at children in the woods.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, wow. Where is it? Is it the same place.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You see Eddie? Oh, your whole community's there. This is exactly what you should be doing. Hell yeah. Oh, great. Eddie. Nothing like oh, because you know, Ed loves his kids.

[Ed Larson]

Well, the show's sold out on the 29th, but if you want to come. Ghillie suit man.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Honestly, we won't even know there. That would be fun. Someone should bring the last podcast and left themed ghillie suit to the show. Oh, wow. Well, we really today really flew by, didn't it?

[Ed Larson]

It really did.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Wow. What another wonderful episode of side Stories. So make sure you live every day knowing the fact that almost a year ago to the day, today the president of the United States was not shot. You can laugh about the fact that they keep trying to tell you that he was. We know for a fact that he was. Wasn't. All right.

[Ed Larson]

I hate to say this, his ear looks good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's the best it's ever been. It was better than it was before. And you can love the fact that you can spend your days and your hours watching endless YouTube whole videos about what actually happened to him and the fact that he actually cut his ear on the holster of a secret serviceman that was standing at the podium. And the only thing he cared about, cared about was getting his shoes so no one could see that he had lifts inside of his shoes.

[Ed Larson]

And then that guy died because they set the whole thing up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yep. They don't. They couldn't care. We haven't heard one word about any of it since.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

Because they murdered a man. They murdered a fireman.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They did. But he was totally acceptable to sacrifice. So thank you guys so much. We got a lot going. Go to last podcast on the left dot com. Buy tickets to see us live. We're all over the goddamn place. You got to come see us. But a patreon.com lastpodcast on the left to watch us flap our gums. Also you can see the live stream every Tuesday, 6pm PST on our Patreon only. And then, you know, obviously we cut out what we can't make it to YouTube and we put it on there for free for you. But then go to our all our socials at LP on the left. You can see it and go to our new YouTube channels. We're making a lot of stuff. We are about to make an announcement. I think it's to going to actually make people happy. I don't know. I don't know what makes people happy anymore. But I think that even when they're upset, they're happy. That's the thing. It's mostly you're starting to find out that when they're upset, they are. They are happy. But this one's going to make you actually happy and it's going to come out at very, very soon. I can't wait to tell you about it. It's a whole new project we're doing here. But if. But between then go to the. Our new YouTube channels at LPN TV. Someplace underneath LPN Romantasy, the foreigner airport. And no dogs in space. Go check it out because that's where all our new is coming.

[Ed Larson]

All right, Dan, I hope you are inside.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Annabelle, you know what's nice? You know what's honestly the only kind of silver lining to all this is that nothing makes a ghost hunter happier than finally becoming a ghost.

[Ed Larson]

Oh my God. Does he have to hang out with all the ghosts of Gettysburg?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, wow, that's gonna be a bummer. Hail Satan.

[Ed Larson]

I don't know. Hail Ghillie suits, I guess. Hail Dan Marino, the.