Side Stories: Beyond Contact w/ Captain Ron Janix

Summary

Podcast Summary: Last Podcast On The Left Episode: Side Stories: Beyond Contact w/ Captain Ron Janix
Release Date: April 23, 2025
Host/Author: The Last Podcast Network

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Introduction

In this episode of Last Podcast on the Left, hosts Henry Zabowski and Ed Larson delve into a mix of true crime and paranormal phenomena. The episode features an in-depth discussion on the high-profile trial of Lori Vallow Daybell and an exclusive interview with Captain Ron Janix, a renowned figure in the UFO community and organizer of the annual Contact in the Desert event.

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The Pope's Untimely Demise

The episode kicks off with a darkly humorous take on the fictional death of the Pope, setting a satirical tone for the discussions that follow.

• Henry Zabowski [02:25]: "Papu Jorge, I'm so sorry you're dead."

• Ed Larson [02:53]: "How you doing? Welcome to Side Stories. My name is Henry Zabowski."

The hosts playfully explore conspiracy theories surrounding the Pope's supposed death, poking fun at the media frenzy and public reactions.

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Lori Vallow Daybell Trial Overview

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the ongoing trial of Lori Vallow Daybell, who stands accused of orchestrating the deaths of her children, Tammy and Josh.

Key Points Discussed:

• Evidence and Trial Progress:

  • The hosts discuss the circumstantial evidence presented against Lori, including text messages and witness testimonies.
  • Henry Zabowski [17:35]: "She was the one that told T. Kylie to fake coming out with the baseball bat."

• Jury Deliberations:

  • Concerns are raised about the length of the deliberations and the potential for a hung jury.
  • Ed Larson [16:23]: "Do they have the death penalty in Arizona? Could she get the death penalty?"

• Legal Strategies:

  • The decision of Lori not to testify in her defense is examined, highlighting its impact on the jury.
  • Henry Zabowski [19:53]: "The fact that she didn't testify says a lot to the jury."

• Public and Host Reactions:

  • The hosts express frustration and skepticism about the legal system's handling of the case.
  • Henry Zabowski [86:57]: "So Lori Valo screw you."

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Exclusive Interview with Captain Ron Janix

The latter part of the episode features an engaging conversation with Captain Ron Janix, a prominent UFO researcher and the leader of Contact in the Desert.

Topics Covered:

• Experience and Involvement in UFO Research:

  • Janix shares his journey into UFO phenomena and his role in organizing Contact in the Desert.
  • Captain Ron Janix [44:35]: "I've always had a curiosity to that. I always like things that are unknown."

• Skepticism and Open-Mindedness:

  • He emphasizes a balanced approach, maintaining skepticism while remaining open to possibilities.
  • Captain Ron Janix [47:38]: "I don't jump to alien any of these things."

• Notable UFO Cases:

  • Discussion about the Roswell incident and Travis Walton's abduction story, highlighting their credibility.
  • Captain Ron Janix [49:55]: "Whose gonna make that up? Who's gonna think of this?"

• Government Involvement and Secrecy:

  • Janix critiques government transparency regarding UFO disclosures and black budget projects.
  • Captain Ron Janix [60:07]: "If there's nothing to hide, why do you need to gut this bill?"

• Future of UFO Research:

  • Insights into upcoming events at Contact in the Desert and plans to bridge academic research with paranormal studies.
  • Captain Ron Janix [65:25]: "We really separate ourselves from other events. Nothing against the other events."

• Impact of Technology on UFO Documentation:

  • The hosts and Janix discuss how advancements in technology affect the authenticity and perception of UFO sightings.
  • Captain Ron Janix [78:49]: "With drones, they're just over there, you know, and it's the problem now you add misinformation."

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Conclusion and Upcoming Events

Wrapping up, the hosts promote various live shows and events, including upcoming performances and Contact in the Desert. They express enthusiasm for the collaborative efforts with Captain Ron Janix and encourage listeners to participate in future episodes and live gatherings.

• Henry Zabowski [85:36]: "So where do you. Your show?"

• Ed Larson [88:42]: "We're doing side stories live from the Fort Lauderdale Improv. Come and check that out."

The episode concludes with humorous banter and a strong promotional push for upcoming events, maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and dark commentary.

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Notable Quotes

• Henry Zabowski [02:25]: "Papu Jorge, I'm so sorry you're dead."
• Captain Ron Janix [44:35]: "I've always had a curiosity to that. I always like things that are unknown."
• Captain Ron Janix [60:07]: "If there's nothing to hide, why do you need to gut this bill?"
• Ed Larson [88:42]: "We're doing side stories live from the Fort Lauderdale Improv. Come and check that out."

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Final Thoughts

This episode of Last Podcast on the Left masterfully intertwines true crime with paranormal investigation, offering listeners a comprehensive look into both high-profile legal cases and the enigmatic world of UFO phenomena. The candid interview with Captain Ron Janix provides a unique perspective, enriching the episode's depth and appeal.

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Transcript

[Henry Zabowski]

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[Ed Larson]

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[Henry Zabowski]

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[Ed Larson]

There for your first drive.

[Captain Ron Janix]

The hatchback.

[Henry Zabowski]

That took you cross country and back, and the minivan that tackles the weekly carpool for the cars you couldn't live without.

[Ed Larson]

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[Captain Ron Janix]

There's no place to escape to.

[Ed Larson]

This is the last on the left side stories.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. Everything is rolling, so whatever you guys are feeling. Wow. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

A little rhythm.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, a little rhythm. A little, little. Pope is Dead music.

[Henry Zabowski]

Well, you know, it's. It's important because it's important today to really recognize the fact the curse has been broken. News has finally happened in time for side stories to talk about it. I know it has finally happened. We've been waiting for something like this for years. It has never happened. The Pope always gets better.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, he loves getting better.

[Henry Zabowski]

He always goes dipping down and then pulling up the nose. Make everybody get all excited. Starting up the conclave. They're sending out the invites.

[Ed Larson]

This Pope died like. Like five times.

[Henry Zabowski]

He's been dead.

[Ed Larson]

That's the other thing.

[Henry Zabowski]

He's been dead for six months at least. They said irreversible heart failure is how he died. I actually, I had heard, I saw a stroke. Yeah, well, he was stroking. Oh. Stroking to the east, stroke to the west. Stroking to the boy that I love best. He is stroking. Pope Francis is dead. Hey, how you doing? Welcome to side Stories. My name is Henry Zabowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.

[Ed Larson]

How you doing? I. I want be the first spoken to the atheist to bless the Pope after he's dead.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know, a lot of people.

[Ed Larson]

In the name of the dad and the.

[Henry Zabowski]

The ghost and the enchanted something apparition. Yep. I want to say a lot of people said Henry Zabowski is going to come out hard with the, you know, the Pope harboring molesters. Joke about how, you know, how he's, you know, him and Whoopy Goldberg, I think, had an affair together. There's a lot of people. He was coming for that. Ted Danson, ex wife material.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

I think that there's a lot of people that would expecting me to say stuff like that, but I want to say, Papu Jorge, me so sorry you dead.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Henry Zabowski]

Papu Jorge, I'm so sorry that the last thing that you had to see was J.D. vance's fat face. But everybody else was also saying the same thing. We've all seen the millions of jokes about J.D. vance killing the Pope.

[Ed Larson]

He was probably already dead. Oh, we're just sitting there.

[Henry Zabowski]

I think that the Pope's been dead for two months.

[Ed Larson]

I think so.

[Henry Zabowski]

I think they knew that they had a dragon fatter. I don't know. And I. You know, whatever it is, apparently when you. Yeah, when you gain cancer, it's not like. It's like you get cancer. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff.

[Ed Larson]

You probably had everything.

[Henry Zabowski]

He had every single thing that you could have. He had it all in one go. J.D. vance begged to see him. He sent his goon, but Papa Jorge went and sent his goon at him to tell him, you know, you're not a real Christian. JD Vance went, then they went. And then he got to see him on his last breaths. But I still think that he. He was dead. He saw Papu Jorge sitting there. Papu Bore. They screwed his little hat on. They got the threads on, on there. You know, they made sure he had his arms attached because they fell off about three weeks ago. And so, you know, they have the. The strings. Oh, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

All popes are puppets.

[Captain Ron Janix]

We know that.

[Henry Zabowski]

So nice. And nature, so nice. Welcome to Levan. Have you ever been to Italy?

[Ed Larson]

You know, J.D. vance is, like, wondering why he's not answering him. He's like this motherfucker stonewalling me.

[Henry Zabowski]

Or he's like, wow, quiet contemplation just watching the corpse of him rot in front of him. We also said we're looking at his.

[Ed Larson]

Since when do we let vice presidents meet the Pope, by the way?

[Henry Zabowski]

Since all the rules are gone, Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

Vice presidents, vice presidents don't get to meet the fucking pope.

[Henry Zabowski]

Vice presidents need to be pretty and shut the fuck up.

[Ed Larson]

That's right.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's all I want to see. I want you to sit in your little fucking box. I want you go. I want you to do something dumb like teach people to read or something. That's what vice presidents are supposed to do. They're not supposed to. He's too busy. And you know what he looks like. And eventually, you know, they Think that you had anything to do with this, J.D. vance. The Vatican is going to disappear you.

[Ed Larson]

Oh my God.

[Henry Zabowski]

And I hope. I just hope that he said one wrong thing in that room.

[Ed Larson]

But. Oh, you. I. I can guarantee it.

[Henry Zabowski]

It probably just something like. Oh man. Whoa. Hey, nice dress. But done. Done. But the. We were looking at pictures of Papu Jorge in his casket. And if you look at it, you can tell. I. They. They sort of don't embalm them. I don't quite know.

[Ed Larson]

Let me get a close up of this.

[Henry Zabowski]

I don't know how it all works.

[Ed Larson]

Large for me to know.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see it big. I want to get in there. Can I take a VR tour of the Pope's casket?

[Ed Larson]

Man. What about the guy behind him dressed like a jester?

[Henry Zabowski]

That is the Swiss Guard.

[Ed Larson]

That's the Swiss Guard?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes. That is a part of the Vatican Guard. That's the elite guard that their jobs are to protect. That hat.

[Ed Larson]

Maybe a different fucking outfit would help them be better fighters.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, that's how you know they're fighting.

[Ed Larson]

Not for good. For fighting.

[Henry Zabowski]

I will say don't with the Swiss Guard. I've made comments about the Swiss Guard before and apparently they will you up.

[Ed Larson]

Really?

[Henry Zabowski]

Apparently. Yeah. They are very highly trained. That's his private army.

[Ed Larson]

Do they put holes in people?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

String them up.

[Henry Zabowski]

Jesus.

[Ed Larson]

Like.

[Henry Zabowski]

But the Papu is here melting. You could see him in this casket. He's slowly melting. Which shows.

[Ed Larson]

But the funeral's not till Saturday.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, I know.

[Ed Larson]

He already looks awful.

[Henry Zabowski]

They're gonna have to pop them on ice.

[Ed Larson]

They're gonna do something, right?

[Henry Zabowski]

I think they do. They put them. They put them in the fridge.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. They have to. Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

I mean, you know, you got to have all the spread going.

[Ed Larson]

It's not like it's cold in Italy.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's nice.

[Ed Larson]

It's nice. Well, that's France.

[Henry Zabowski]

The stole my joke.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, but you deserve it. And I love how they had to like, they're like, okay, he's five, eight, but we need. We need a six foot five casket for the hat.

[Henry Zabowski]

Just so you know, we're gonna have to bury him with that. It's actually. It seems he died with it still on. It's melting into his forehead.

[Ed Larson]

That's because he has a d dildo on top of his head. Yeah, it hides the hat. Hides the dildo.

[Henry Zabowski]

I wonder like. So now we're going to go through the conclave. Side stories. Lpotlmail.com I'd love to know what we Know about what they do to the Pope's corpse? Because I know we did. We're talking about with gurney right before the show. They have a whole thing. Obviously, it's a whole very.

[Ed Larson]

What do they do in his eyes?

[Henry Zabowski]

They do a regimented breakdown. They. Jerry Orbach didn't get to ask. So we don't get A Pope doesn't get to ask either. But they. They go through a whole procedure. And I know one of them is they take a little hammer and they knock him on the head three times. This is true.

[Ed Larson]

Silver hammer.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes. And they knock him on the head three times. And then they go, Jorge. And they say his real name. And I guess that transmutes him back to human.

[Ed Larson]

Or if he, like, like, if possible.

[Henry Zabowski]

Wake up and then. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Ed Larson]

Finish. Shut the fuck up.

[Henry Zabowski]

Shut the fuck up. Go back to sleep.

[Ed Larson]

Concrete.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's my turn. Pop out. It's my turn. I'm in charge.

[Ed Larson]

Hell yeah, man.

[Henry Zabowski]

I mean, because what happens? They seal the apartments.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

You never know what happens in there. I would. If I would do. I'd go, like. I'd go up to his little lips and go, oh, forgiven, Henry.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Oh, great. Thanks, buddy. I know about all your crimes and I forgive you. Thank you. Thank you, Papua.

[Henry Zabowski]

But, yeah, everyone's expecting us to talk about how, like, a lot of you gave me pushback because he's. He was the nice Pope.

[Ed Larson]

He's the best pope we've had.

[Henry Zabowski]

Was that even mean?

[Ed Larson]

But I do better than the other. Fuck.

[Henry Zabowski]

He's fine. I. What's hard is, is that I don't mind.

[Ed Larson]

The next one's gonna suck.

[Henry Zabowski]

He has used homophobic flirts, slurs in the past, but he's also stuck up.

[Ed Larson]

For gay people, sort of.

[Henry Zabowski]

The thing is, is that I said.

[Ed Larson]

They'Re allowed to be humans, kinda.

[Henry Zabowski]

He's like. It's still one of those where I do think that. I know that everyone's saying, like, at least he's trying. But you know what? I'd love someone that didn't just try.

[Ed Larson]

You just be executed.

[Henry Zabowski]

Do it. Be the Pope. This is my thing. Aren't you, like, the fucking infallible head of the church? I know you have all these people you have to convince and all this kind of shit, but when it comes down to it, he could literally come out and be like, not only are gay people great, but I jerk off to gay porn every day. Like, if you really wanted to change shit, he would actually, actually change. Instead of kind of hinting and kind of half Changing. And before everybody tells me, oh, the politics and blah, blah, blah, it's like, yeah, I get it. I don't give a fuck. If he's chosen by God, then he should be able to do whatever the fuck it is he wants.

[Ed Larson]

Also, the Catholics, you know, they could use a little refresh, a little, little sprucing up.

[Henry Zabowski]

Somebody needs to do something with like, like a set of huevos, you know, someone's got to actually, actually do something. And now we have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever. If anybody has seen Conclave and they know how Conclave ends.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

And I think that could be really, really fun. This is a good way for someone to sneak in there.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, so Pope Francis here, I like this. He says he sneaks in views on sex and masturbation as he kisses feet of prisoners. Lucky Pope.

[Ed Larson]

Really?

[Henry Zabowski]

What does he say on the whole on Holy Thursday, suck on these feet. Hey, Hey.

[Ed Larson]

I know I'm supposed to kiss him, but I could suck on him if you want.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know what? I'm, I'm in prison for child molestation. You go ahead and suck m feet.

[Ed Larson]

Bo, is it okay that I'm like, super old?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

Do you mind that I'm old?

[Henry Zabowski]

Honestly, that to me is the grossest part of this, but, yeah, please start sucking. And so he says that he's saying no to masturbation.

[Ed Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zabowski]

He says God is the. He said sex is one of the most beautiful things that God has given to the human person. Even though he's never.

[Ed Larson]

He doesn't know.

[Henry Zabowski]

He has no idea.

[Ed Larson]

He don't know about sex even.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, he doesn't know. Does he know what queefing is? But while in the mayor in favor of sex masturbation, he sells. He still says is a big no. No.

[Ed Larson]

Masturbation's a no.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, no, no.

[Ed Larson]

You know what's a big no? No Having sex with children.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's a little fat.

[Ed Larson]

No, no.

[Henry Zabowski]

A lot of those guys, it's a bit of a yes. Yes. They are very, very. They're super into it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Criminally so I, I. So now we are mourning the passing of Il Papu. The next one's morning.

[Ed Larson]

As in it's, you know, it's early.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's 2:15.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

I think that the next pope is going to suck.

[Ed Larson]

And they have to suck.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah. So I don't.

[Ed Larson]

We went from Nazi to halfway decent sort of.

[Henry Zabowski]

Sort of again. I still feel like it's given him too much credit. No one.

[Ed Larson]

There's no reason to like a Pope.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, it's like a president. It's like a king. Anybody that likes anybody that is in charge by some cult in the world. So this secret group gets together and puts together they all decide what they have interpreted, what God has told them to choose who the guy is to be Pope. And they've chose multiple Nazis. They've chose multiple war criminals. Yes, they've chosen. It's like, so. I don't want to hear it. So now the next pope is going to be some other guy. It's probably going to be like. It's going to be Bezos. No, even he. I don't even know if he's an American. 1 11. He doesn't live in the Vatican.

[Ed Larson]

We might have our first American Pope. I forget the guy's name. We might get an American in there.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, good, that's what we need. No, I don't think so. I. You know what I want?

[Ed Larson]

I want some English out of the pope.

[Henry Zabowski]

Robot. Robot pope. Where's my roomba pope?

[Ed Larson]

Roomba Pope.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, they got roombas that can mop now. Where's my roomba pope?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, you got to put a hat on a Roomba. Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

These guys, they're all saying the same thing. They got. We might have our first. They're all. There was talk about having a first.

[Ed Larson]

African pope, but they didn't like how he. That Francis approved of same sex couples.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, they are going to choose somebody. That's very bad.

[Ed Larson]

You know what I like about Francis's death, why I think that he did that, I find to be kind of cool, is he said that there's always a private viewing for all the cardinals. And it was like that. Shit. They don't get that. I think it's take anything away, change anything is all I'm saying.

[Henry Zabowski]

How about change something that matters?

[Ed Larson]

You know, you start small.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know, I guess that's my question. It's like, I guess where everyone wants me to give him credit. I guess it's just. Yeah, fuck all of these people.

[Ed Larson]

Cardinal Mateo Zappi.

[Henry Zabowski]

Every single time I see one of their little tiny hats, I get angry. I hate the cardinals. Tiny hats?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. What's the. Why do they have all of origami hats?

[Henry Zabowski]

I'm so.

[Ed Larson]

They have like a class and they all made their hats together. Now they have to wear it.

[Henry Zabowski]

You work at in and out, or is that just what you do with kids?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Disgusting. I know.

[Ed Larson]

Two seconds.

[Henry Zabowski]

Legitimately, I do. I am trying to dial back the molestation jokes because we. That's our act on the road.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

I don't want to spoil those bits. So I, it's just this idea of the. I'm, I'm not, I don't care that the Pope is dead. I'm glad that he's dead. But unfortunately it just opens up.

[Ed Larson]

You not care or are you glad?

[Henry Zabowski]

No, I just don't. I'm just one of the other. I'm mad that there's going to have to be a new choice. This is, you know what this is again? This is another British wedding. This is another royal wedding garbage. This is another. Oh, the Queen's dead. I'm gonna have to watch five hours of fucking dragging her wrinkly ass across fucking the bridge. You go dump her in the river or whatever they did that was fun.

[Ed Larson]

To go to look at the dead queen for so long.

[Henry Zabowski]

There's another thing that the whole world has to stop and give a about that I'm sick of, you know, I'm sick of these things, you know, I wanna, I wanna talk about what, how we helped Ryan Coogler's sinners do very well in the box office.

[Ed Larson]

The difference, the original horror movie, big budget R that made some cash. Dude, that's the fucking news. It's going to. This is a great year for between this and the substance and Nosferatu. This is a fucking big year for horror movies coming back to the mainstream where they fucking belong.

[Henry Zabowski]

I am also going to confess that I am buying time in this recording, waiting with the verdict. Watch open for the Lori Valo trial on my YouTube.

[Ed Larson]

I wonder what Mr. Coogler thinks about that.

[Henry Zabowski]

Let me ask him.

[Ed Larson]

Probably call him on the phone. Pull up the cougar phone.

[Henry Zabowski]

The cougar phone. But no, I, I, I've been sitting here because of what I was also hoping for in another first for side stories that that that verdict would come in on time.

[Ed Larson]

So we have a couple minutes left. You never know what's going to happen. Rob's watching. I don't got to know for a week. One fucking asshole in there being an asshole.

[Henry Zabowski]

I actually don't know if it can go that long. I think it really can only be like the fact that it's taking longer than 15 minutes to decide that she's guilty is one of the biggest travesties I have ever seen.

[Ed Larson]

Do they have the death penalty in Arizona? Could she get the death penalty?

[Henry Zabowski]

She is not there. She's not up for death penalty because this is just a conspiracy trial.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, okay. So this is just saying that she's.

[Henry Zabowski]

Like involved she orchestrated the conspiracy. Now, I can see how you can convince maybe some of the less bright members of the jury pool that there is a reasonable doubt. Right. Like, because the main issue is that the. The prosecutor put out all of this circumstantial evidence. Which is the text. Yeah, but the texts tell the entire story of a person going ahead and planning. Like, she was the mastermind. She was the one pulling all the elements together. She was the one that told Alex to get the gun. She was the one that made sure that her. Her other bestie got her. The pulled her brother out of the scenarios that Charles Vallow would make sure that he would show up alone to the house.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

She was the one that told T. Kylie to fake coming out with the baseball bat. No, but you can. It's insinuated. And the problem is that how. It just depends on how difficult a jury wants to be.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Because they also.

[Ed Larson]

They don't know that she killed her kids.

[Henry Zabowski]

Ostensibly. They don't know. We think at the end of this.

[Ed Larson]

They'Re going to be like, what, she killed those kids?

[Henry Zabowski]

I think so, Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I would have changed my goddamn food.

[Henry Zabowski]

Exactly. Which is the reason why they didn't want it in there. It's because they're trying to figure out if you can. And. But this is the. This is one of those hard lines because there was no person seeing a meeting of them together, orchestrating the plan.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

There was no. There's nobody from within the plan to testify because guess what?

[Ed Larson]

They're dead.

[Henry Zabowski]

Everybody's dead.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Even.

[Henry Zabowski]

And no one's asking about that. No one's asking, where's Tyler? Why didn't she talk? Where. And they know Alex is dead, but they were like, where. Where's everybody else?

[Ed Larson]

Where's Chad Gabel's wife in general? What?

[Henry Zabowski]

Dayel. They are T. Jad Daybell, the prosecutor specifically carved out. Because they did not. Number one, he's not going to come. It's his right to plead the fifth because he's married to Lori Valo. Like, because he was still legally married. So it's his right to not testify. No lawyer of his would tell him to go testify because he's trying to fight his death penalty.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, he's getting shot in the head. We all know that.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, can't wait. Oh, man, let me do it. And then the. The next ones are the. But that's kind of the issue now is that. That any one of those pieces of information, if Lori Valor were to bring up, would allow the prosecutor to open up the Story and bring in the. The story of her killing her kids, which is what Lori Valo kept trying to fight. And then, as you could see, the reason why she did not end up testifying on the stand and the reason why she didn't end up testifying, which is I did find an interesting statistic, is that 90% of defense trials that don't include the defendant testifying on their behalf, they end up losing the case.

[Ed Larson]

Wow.

[Henry Zabowski]

So it's. The fact that she didn't testify says a lot to the jury. And because the reason why she didn't testify is because she didn't want to be under control of having to answer questions from the prosecutor.

[Ed Larson]

Because she asked herself questions.

[Henry Zabowski]

If she testified, she would probably. She would do one or the other. It's actually, I had to look this up. It's either she would have a set of written questions that would be asked by her. She has an assisting lawyer. She has somebody that's kind of helping her get through a lot of the processes there because she doesn't have a law degree and she's a homicidal maniac.

[Ed Larson]

And so she did a good job, though.

[Henry Zabowski]

She did not.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, they're still deliberating.

[Henry Zabowski]

The only reason why they're deliberate two.

[Ed Larson]

And a half hours today, they're just.

[Henry Zabowski]

Doing it because they are a pain in the butt. They are doing it because it's pain in the butt. They legitimately. She did such a horrendous job of doing what she was needing to do. It just really depends on, and I mean this as nicely as possible, how dumb the jury is, man. I'll tell you what depends on how dumb or how, how difficult the jury wants to be.

[Ed Larson]

If I can give you a little brighter side to this. If she does get off, first of all, she's in prison for the rest of her life no matter what. So it doesn't even matter. But if she does get off, I think it'll influence a lot more idiots to defend themselves and then. But. But then they'll end up losing.

[Henry Zabowski]

Well, I mean, there is just no way she's going to win. There's just no way. But we'll find out. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's what they said.

[Ed Larson]

You should be in by now.

[Henry Zabowski]

Well, no, not necessarily. Right now it's at two and a half hours. Yeah, right now it's two and a half hours. They said that she got in Idaho. She got seven hours to took them to decide that she was guilty in Idaho. It also was a much longer trial.

[Ed Larson]

She didn't represent herself in that.

[Henry Zabowski]

No. And it was a much thicker trial, but this one, it's just, just. I don't understand. It's obviously it's a. It's slightly less of a sentence too. And. But I do think that once they find out that after the fact that she's murdered her children, they're going to be pretty upset if they let her go on this one. But I mean, we still don't know where that is. We just don't know where it is. And. And Lori Valow. So the answer is she can have answers. She can have questions that her assisting attorney can answer to her. And then there's other things that you can do. Sometimes they allow you to testify to a narrative where they allow you to just extemporaneously talk where you can monologue at the, at the, at the jury. She can't.

[Ed Larson]

Both of us almost said audience.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes, it is such performance. But that's all it would be.

[Ed Larson]

It's all it is.

[Henry Zabowski]

But then. But the problem again is that then she would be open to cross examination. And the last thing that she wanted was to be spoken to by another woman. Which is the saddest thing. I think in the end she just hates. She definitely hates this prosecuting attorney. Nothing would make me happier than watching this prosecut attorney nail her to a fucking wall. But it's just. We. It's not gonna happen.

[Ed Larson]

The poll on Law and crime network, 28,000 votes guilty by 94% not guilty 2% because hung jury 4%.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's because the audience knows she kills her kids.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

The audience knows she's already a convicted murderer.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

And. But the jury has to know that she is a prisoner. So they know she's a prisoner already, but they don't know what. What of.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

They don't know what for. They technically.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

I mean they know that she's led in every day in handcuffs and, and taking them off. She knows she's wearing a body shock vest.

[Ed Larson]

Oh really?

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh yeah. Just in case she uses nicely though. Yes. Because that is her right. Because she's in trial. The goal is, is that that's. It's one of those things they talk about us about how it might influence the jury to see you in prison wear.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, because on her. Looks great. She deserves every.

[Ed Larson]

So what happens if she's not guilty? Just like there's this g. Flawed justice system and that's it.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, it's like technically the justice system does what it does.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

So it's up to the Jury. It is up to the jury. You can't do anything about the issues of humankind not understanding.

[Ed Larson]

Open back up and they start looking for Charles Val's murderer.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, they don't.

[Ed Larson]

No, no, they.

[Henry Zabowski]

No. Cuz Alex can killed him. Essentially. Alex is the murderer. Yeah, but Alex isn't there because Alex is dead. Which they also did not talk about how he died. Oh, we know that they said that she died. He died by natural causes, which is still true.

[Ed Larson]

Pink juice out the. Out the lungs.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes, that's still true, but doesn't necessarily mean that it was natural because I still think it's very possible that he's.

[Ed Larson]

Suicide or something like that. Did he get an autopsy? I don't remember.

[Henry Zabowski]

I think it worked. Is that. No, because that time they thought it was all. I think that they. They were so certain that it was natural causes. What? Brain aneurysm. Pulmonary aneurysm or something like that, which is the same thing that I guess that Tammy Dabo had. Even though they opened that one up.

[Ed Larson]

Interesting. So Alex probably was murdered as well. But we. There's no way to know for sure.

[Henry Zabowski]

No way. No way.

[Ed Larson]

Especially if he died the same way as Tammy.

[Henry Zabowski]

At least sounds like it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

But you know, so this is going to play out. But she. I just. I cannot imagine she's not going to be.

[Ed Larson]

What was Tammy's official cause of death again?

[Henry Zabowski]

I think again it was. It was considered suspicious at first. It was considered pulmonary embolism and then it was suspicious.

[Ed Larson]

And then Daybell Chad got.

[Henry Zabowski]

Got. Got for it.

[Ed Larson]

Got. Go for it.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes. So Chad Dabel's already gone all the way. Now they're saying that. Yeah, she was asphyxiated. Oh, so she was. That's what they tried to say.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, that's right. Because they dug her up and they found the marks on her and all that.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh yeah, that's bro. The bone broken in her throat.

[Ed Larson]

That's right, that's right, that's right. It's almost like we did a whole thing about this.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's almost like we did a month on this.

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[Ed Larson]

All right, so speaking. This is some future news that I. I just. I can't even believe this story. It's just wild. This is like, what the. This is like, what's we can expect for, like, this to start happening. Woman posing as ICE agent kidnaps X's wife.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, this is like. This is a full on. Like, she had a costume and a character, the whole thing.

[Ed Larson]

All right. With detentions by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in the headlines. A woman in Florida decided to don an ICE shirt and kidnap. Might have been icy. It might have been like, oh, yeah, like ghost a kidnap her ex boyfriend's wife. Latrance Battle, 52, showed off the shirt and held a handheld radio when she showed up at a hotel chain where the woman worked on April 10, according to Bay County Sheriff's Office. She also allegedly presented a business card indicating that she worked for the sheriff's office and told the employee she was there to pick her.

[Henry Zabowski]

This is too easy.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. In the. In. The victim, in the process of becoming a legal US Resident, got into the vehicle with Battle, believing her to be a real ICE agent. So she's just terrified and she gets in there. Once in the vehicle, the woman tried to call her husband and lawyer, but Battle forcefully snatched the phone from her hand. Deputies wrote in the arrest affidavit. They added, the victim became suspicious after Battle drove past the sheriff's office and made comments indicating the woman would have to suffer the consequences of her husband's actions.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, dude, that's bad. This is like. Ladies get angry, man.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, dude, this is wild. This is.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know what? I'll say? I really appreciate that a woman's doing this.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

I'm not a man.

[Ed Larson]

And it's costumes. I do like theater.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know, most dudes are the ones that go this far. Yeah, it's nice to see lady really go for it.

[Ed Larson]

True jealousy.

[Henry Zabowski]

Most of the time you just got to get a nice. Good. A new hair color. You feel better.

[Ed Larson]

She took her to an apartment complex where. And then she was able to contact a resident there who was. Who called for help. So not a red roof in. So she was. Someone saw that, you know, she was in trouble, and they called the police for her. So that's nice.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yes.

[Ed Larson]

When the woman was able to speak to her husband again, he told her the apparent ICE agent sounded a lot like his ex, a woman he said attacked him at his job two years earlier. So that's her move. She shows up at your job and with you, that's.

[Henry Zabowski]

I mean, that's the. That's where everybody's super vulnerable. Do you remember back in the day in high school, did you ever play mafia?

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Henry Zabowski]

Did you ever do that? I know what it is when you, when you. When people would have, like, you'd get a hit and then you had to hit somebody. Like, we used to do this in high school where it's like, you know, like certain places were safe zones, but everybody was playing, had a water pistol and you could whack somebody.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Like do a thing, and then when you whack somebody, they give you who they were supposed to whack, and then you go do it again and again.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, that's kind of fun.

[Henry Zabowski]

But if work was supposed to be off, let's. Yeah, that's what this lady doesn't get.

[Ed Larson]

She doesn't know the rules of mafia. She just knows the rules of ice.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Show up to our schools. Apparently, that's what they like when the. Then she was fleeing to Alabama, she got caught and she was charged with kidnapping in commission in commission of a felony robbery by sudden snatching, impersonating a law officer, and the commission of a felony and felony violation of probation. So she.

[Henry Zabowski]

Wow, that's just like. I mean, that's a long way to go to get revenge. You really don't need to do all that much for that much.

[Ed Larson]

What was her plan, though?

[Henry Zabowski]

I just think.

[Ed Larson]

Was she gonna try and deport this woman?

[Henry Zabowski]

I think that she was gonna try to. To be honest, I think that she was rolling for as fat as long as she could with just kind of improv, improvising, saying, yes, Anderson. And then I think eventually she realized, like, oh, this is going to play out unless I kill this woman.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I think it's good if you're going to commit a crime. I think it's good to have a goal.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's like writing a book. It's like writing a book stuff with Stephen King said. Stephen King said the key to writing a book is knowing the ending. He's like, everything else you'll figure out, but if you know the beginning and the ending, you could do a lot to get from A to Z. And so that's the main thing for anybody looking to a long con, one that think of the ending in mind. And also to take the complications out of it, you can just grab the woman coming out of work and putting her in the back of your car. You know what I mean? You don't need to get a costume. You don't need licenses or any of that stuff. You can't just whack her in the back of the head when she's coming out of a bathroom. So I would say also that's not advice.

[Ed Larson]

No. As much as it's just, you know, what are you doing here, lady?

[Henry Zabowski]

Just think about if you're gonna do a crime, just understand that it's gonna keep going. It's gonna keep going. And I have one other story I want to do.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, all right. Please.

[Henry Zabowski]

Arizona is not a friendly place. And nothing really says that quite like the story.

[Ed Larson]

They're about to let Lori Valo off.

[Henry Zabowski]

I mean, I know.

[Ed Larson]

So allowed any updates, Rob?

[Henry Zabowski]

No, not yet. No.

[Ed Larson]

He's still deliberating these ass, slow ass pieces of.

[Henry Zabowski]

So here we go. So in Arizona, a guy by the name of Daniel Lanks. This is in Phoenix. Now, I can realize that this is just aggravated assault facing felon. This guy, he's facing felony aggravated assault. He had an unprovoked attack. A cop said. So people came up to him. A guy came up to him and he said, hey, how you doing? And then Daniel Lanks pulled his eyeball out.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

The victim beat the shit out of him after that.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yes. Because once you pull the eyeball out, out, the guy's pretty surprised. The victim stated that during this incident, he was in fear for his life and safety, believing that Daniel could have killed him. Absolutely. He popped your eyeball out.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Also popping an eyeball out, it's not that hard.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, no, that's what I hear.

[Henry Zabowski]

Get the thumb in there or you.

[Ed Larson]

Just hit the side really hard.

[Henry Zabowski]

The key. I want to just like. That's what my dad always said. Go for eyes and balls.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

That's very nice of him. He was advice. And my buddy's dad taught me how to fight. And he always. He. When I got my car, he gave me a cue ball and I said. And then he was like. I was like, what do you. What do I do with this? He's like, oh, you keep it in your trunk in case anyone tries to run from you.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, wow. Good.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know me, always hunting people down to the ends of the earth. Yes. She said, he just went up to him. He just like, because what crime? Where is there a crime? Daniel Lanks, 39. Older than him.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's like, that's where I'm starting to get upset when I'm starting to see that I'm older than some of our criminals. Oh, yes. It makes me upset.

[Ed Larson]

That's why I can't watch sports anymore.

[Henry Zabowski]

I know.

[Ed Larson]

Children.

[Henry Zabowski]

I can't watch children do anything. But.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, no, I mean, this guy being fucking, how you doing? And then rips his goddamn eyeball. I mean, he was obviously doing bad. Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

You doing. I'm stressed. You know, he just. I just didn't even really say how he popped it out.

[Ed Larson]

He reached from behind him and like scooped it.

[Henry Zabowski]

But that's crazy.

[Ed Larson]

It is really crazy.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's a crazy way to do it.

[Ed Larson]

He must have done it before.

[Henry Zabowski]

Do you think. And I don't mean that. I'm not blaming the victim at all.

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Henry Zabowski]

Is it any way I was loose?

[Ed Larson]

Oh, just a little loose. You might have had big sockets. I think your eyes are so deep in your head they'd be really hard to get out.

[Henry Zabowski]

Super hard to get.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. And that's a challenge to you people.

[Henry Zabowski]

Try to come and scoop my eyes. I dare you to try to scoop my eyes. You'll never get near enough to my eyes to scoop them. My eyeballs are always moving around.

[Ed Larson]

We need some grill tongs to get him out. But after he fucking took this guy's eye eyeball out, he fell to the ground, started screaming, my eye, my eye, my eye. And then he just started punching him in the face and broke his jaw. Yes. That is a brutal attack.

[Henry Zabowski]

Links was apparently he was near a shop at the intersection of Broadway and 48th Street. It was around 1am and victim walked.

[Ed Larson]

Don't talk to anyone past midnight again, I'm up.

[Henry Zabowski]

Victim blaming, but not victim.

[Ed Larson]

No, it's his advice. This isn't victim blaming. This is just straight up advice.

[Henry Zabowski]

Well, I will say you don't do the head nod to any kind of man.

[Ed Larson]

Head nodded, you know, that's only like, literally head nod is like, am I supposed to be scared of you right now?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

But that's what a head nod is.

[Henry Zabowski]

A head nod is, is a communication I see between men. We're acknowledging each other's presence and you just go like, Like, I just came from up north in Oscoda. Up up north in Michigan. Oscoda. I just also big shout out to the American glory growers.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

I actually got actual good weed seed grown by hand from a place dead in the middle of nowhere.

[Ed Larson]

Amazing.

[Henry Zabowski]

Michigan. It was great stuff. Go check it out. But the. The idea that you could, like, so you're talking to another man, you gotta. Sometimes you gotta give somebody the head nut.

[Ed Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zabowski]

I feel that. That's with men communicating to each other.

[Ed Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zabowski]

Like, it's good to do. It's good to leave.

[Ed Larson]

You think he was whistling.

[Henry Zabowski]

Hey, how you doing?

[Ed Larson]

Hey, how you doing?

[Henry Zabowski]

But you don't. The key is yes, Never verbal, because it does seem to enter into a thing. So he said, hey, how you doing? Langston said, I'm gonna whoop your ass. Which is not a proper response.

[Ed Larson]

No, it's rude.

[Henry Zabowski]

You said Daniel still detectives to shut the up. He did not understand his rights. And yes, he said, how you doing? And then he turned around here and he popped the eyeball out of.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Of him.

[Ed Larson]

And he has an eye tattoo.

[Henry Zabowski]

Maybe that's what he was jealous of.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, Zakah. I should have got that tattoo. What is that, New York Yankees? What is that?

[Henry Zabowski]

No, it looks like it's flowers. They think it looks. Yeah, it looks like. What's the. The. It's like a dandelion plant.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, weird. Or is it like a cactus?

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh. Oh. I wonder if that's his spirit animal. I think he covered up a teardrop.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, I think covered up a teardrop.

[Henry Zabowski]

But that doesn't make sense, though. Why would you cover up the teardrop? Isn't your. Isn't the teardrop supposed to let everybody know you killed somebody in prison? In. Yeah, isn't that what a teardrop is?

[Ed Larson]

I got. I got. I got a teardrop tattoo next to my brown eye for all the dookies I've slain.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's the poor. The poor tattoo artist having to get in there.

[Ed Larson]

It's a God. He was able to model it after his own teardrop.

[Henry Zabowski]

Whoa.

[Ed Larson]

Cuz he was crying.

[Henry Zabowski]

Lonely teardrops. Is that what that song's about? Yeah. Yeah. Hot tears will never dry. Lonely tears. Drums. That was actually one of the first Motown hits.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, really?

[Henry Zabowski]

We learned that it was written by. What's his name. It was written by Barry Gordy.

[Ed Larson]

Man. What a great time at the Motown Museum. Yeah, we went to the Motown Museum.

[Henry Zabowski]

We had a great weekend.

[Ed Larson]

Detroit's wonderful.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, we had a. Awesome time.

[Ed Larson]

What was that? Hot Sam's.

[Henry Zabowski]

Hot Sam's. I told you all about Hot Sam.

[Ed Larson]

Dude, Henry and I are looking sharp. Not right now, but, like, you know, when we want to dress up again, we have some. We bought some really nice clothes.

[Henry Zabowski]

I love Hot Sam.

[Ed Larson]

That was a very cool place. Yeah, Go to Hot Sam's if you're into Detroit.

[Henry Zabowski]

Go check it out. Go check it out. There was one other thing I wanted to remind people of. Go check out the Foreign report on its own YouTube channel. So this is the thing we're trying to do here at Lost Podcast Network, which is we're trying to give some of our shows that are not as similar to Last Podcast and the others more of a chance to thrive in the Internet space. So that is requiring us to put them on their own little channels. Please go and subscribe to the foreign report on YouTube.

[Ed Larson]

I'll go do that right now, man. Cena. Cena Ghaznavi is the smartest person I know.

[Henry Zabowski]

He is very smart.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, well, him and Marcus, but that's. No offense the to either one of you, but they, you know, they're smarter.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's not my job. Travis is great on there too.

[Ed Larson]

Travis is great. Travis is great everywhere. Travis is great ever. But I love the forum report because it really does like show every side of the news.

[Henry Zabowski]

It really does. They're actually an educated, level headed response to global news and it is extremely. It's great.

[Ed Larson]

No agenda.

[Henry Zabowski]

None.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, it's great.

[Henry Zabowski]

And he always done equally well. The best part of is that the, the best part is that when you get everybody angry, that's how you know you're right. When everybody's angry, that's how you know you know you're correct. So now we have a special guest who's going to join us here in the last podcast. In the left studio goes man, intrepid leader in the UFO space captain Ron Jannix of Contact in the Desert. He's going to be here. We're going to be drawn with him a little bit.

[Ed Larson]

That's right. Yeah. Because we're going to promo and talk about our eventual like multiple shows. We're doing a Contact in the Desert.

[Henry Zabowski]

Multiple shows.

[Ed Larson]

And Ron's been doing it every year, right?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah. For a dozen years. So we're going to find out all about the backstage shenanigans of Contact and why you should come out and see it. Because it's going to be hilarious.

[Ed Larson]

It's going to be amazing. And we're going to be out there from I believe May 30 to June 2. Yeah, I think is the correct. Correct dates.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

No, we got our whole comedy show and then we have a last podcast proper show.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

It's going to be a blast where we're going to interview and we're going to have a good time.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're better. We better.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Man, I love this. I. Contact in the Desert is such a, like, crazy, fun experience.

[Henry Zabowski]

I love it.

[Ed Larson]

It was last year when we did it. It was like, with the time where I was like, oh, my God, this is like, I'm. I'm involved in something crazy.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yes.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

So here we go. Now we will hear from Captain Ron. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we promised you this. We have Captain Ron Janix from Contact in the Desert. Now, this man has experienced too much truth at once. Now, you've been doing Contact in the desert for how long?

[Captain Ron Janix]

This is our third year.

[Henry Zabowski]

But this is your third year, right? Of the entire time for owning it? Yes.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I've been involved in it since, like, 20, 15, 16. I was like, a host, and I, I. I got to know the old owners, and I would host and participate. And so I've been going there. It's been my favorite week of the year for about 10 years.

[Henry Zabowski]

Is there anything else that you do? Are you a Burning man guy?

[Captain Ron Janix]

I've never done Burning Man. Now I did. Do you know Contact in the Desert used to be, like, Burning Man? It was literally, physically in the desert. It was at Joshua Tree.

[Ed Larson]

Cool.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Literally. And you'd walk from, like, little hut to little hut to see the different speakers. It was 120 degrees outside because it's in the desert. You're literally walking over cactus. Literally. And Joshua Trees.

[Henry Zabowski]

Was that like, do you have the same crew there then? Like. Because, like, now you have, like, George, Nori and George Knapp. Like, you. Now you're having, like, the luminaries.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah, no, they did. They've had Nori and those guys have been going the whole time. They went out to the desert. Absolutely.

[Henry Zabowski]

Naps the legit, though. Legit naps hardcore.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, I know. I've seen the documentaries. You know, he's a man.

[Captain Ron Janix]

That's one of my favorite guys in the whole field, for sure.

[Ed Larson]

Very cool.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Genuine investigator.

[Henry Zabowski]

We might get invited to his home.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Great.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're trying to force it.

[Captain Ron Janix]

He's in Vegas.

[Ed Larson]

Have you ever been?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Not to his house, but I've seen him in Vegas. He's great.

[Henry Zabowski]

Have you ever done a thing? I just want to. Just straight.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I've done a thing before.

[Henry Zabowski]

Have you done a thing?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Have you ever done a thing?

[Ed Larson]

Never. Never.

[Henry Zabowski]

He hates.

[Ed Larson]

I'm a novice. I don't. First of all, Yeah, I want to get that out of there. I'm not an expert in field. I'm very much a student, and I'm having a great time learning. Then Contact in the Desert really Taught me a lot and opened up my eyes last year.

[Captain Ron Janix]

You can digest a lot in those five days. That's how it was for me. I mean, when I first went to that, I saw a flyer once and all these names were on it, like Van Danigan. Oh, yeah, those guys. Like, I gotta go see this. And then it was just like, so much thrown at me at once. You can really ramp up your knowledge quickly in five days.

[Henry Zabowski]

Did you always. Were you always into UFOs, like, what got you to all this?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Had an experience. I'm not an experiencer or anything like that, but I've always had a curiosity to that. I always like things that are unknown. I like those shows in search of anything that's like that. I liked Art Bell, if you guys.

[Henry Zabowski]

Remember Art Bell, he's my patron saint.

[Captain Ron Janix]

There you go.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, and Marcus Parks is currently that stuff.

[Captain Ron Janix]

And I kind of fell into a buddy of mine. He had a podcast about UFOs. He's like, you're really into this. Why don't you come on? And then we did, Truth be Told together for years and years and years. So I just. And you know, the more you do it, every time you interview somebody, you learn that much more. Maybe you read their book before they come on, or you read stuff about them, you watch their lectures, and it just grows, grows, grows, grows.

[Henry Zabowski]

Were you a standup? Did you do comedy? Because you're very funny. Did you do stuff like that? Like, what were you doing that got you decided that you wanted to talk about it? Because a lot of guys get into the material, but they're not microphone or camera ready.

[Captain Ron Janix]

You know, it's just one of those things. I was a personal assistant for 20 years working for, like, celebrities in Hollywood, so I never really was in front of the camera or any of that. I never.

[Henry Zabowski]

You're used to harboring secrets.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah. And I'm the behind the scenes guy. Absolutely. You know, I was always behind the scenes, but it doesn't bother me. I'm. I'm. I'm open to either role.

[Ed Larson]

You'd never guess. I saw you, like, running stuff last year. You were, like, emceeing, like, it's like, oh, there's Nick Pope. Come on up here. You bring him on stage, you make him uncomfortable, answer some questions.

[Henry Zabowski]

Love it.

[Ed Larson]

I love it. It was great. It was like a true. Like, like, oh, no, it reminded me of Playboy After Dark.

[Captain Ron Janix]

There we go. No one has ever said that about contact in the desert before, that's for sure.

[Henry Zabowski]

I'm still not ready to Say it, Ron. But I will follow it up. I will.

[Ed Larson]

But it's like, yeah, you're just walking around. You don't want schmoozing with people. You lean on a table like, hey, Whitley, how you doing, buddy?

[Captain Ron Janix]

What's going on? You know, I've been doing this now for about 14, 15 years. I've interviewed all these guys. I've got to know some of them and become friendly with them. And we almost feels like to us that Contact in the Desert's sort of like a banquet for a community. You know, it's almost like an annual thing that we know. We all go there, we all meet here. What have you been working on this year? What have you been doing? You know, a lot of these guys know each other. Some of them don't see each other till contact next year.

[Ed Larson]

I feel like there should be a yearbook almost.

[Henry Zabowski]

Almost.

[Captain Ron Janix]

You know what I mean?

[Henry Zabowski]

Do you ever do, like through all of this process, like there's one side of you, obviously you run and you're the proprietor of Contact in the Desert. So that's one side of you. On the other side of you, you've been experiencing these people at the center of ufology personally for 15 years. Where is it taken, your beliefs?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, I'll tell you what, My whole life, I'm. I am right here, man. I am right in the middle. I am the middle of all of this. So I'm very skeptical, but I'm very open minded. I am. A lot of these guys have gone on some of these other shows and they want me to say provocative stuff. They're like, what's the craziest thing? You'll say, sure. And I'm like, you got the wrong guy. I'm not that guy. I'm right in the middle.

[Henry Zabowski]

Same with us, where it's like, I am one of those, what I like to view is I'm across the board agnostic.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well done, well done. Now I will say this, I will say in the 15 year period that we're talking about, I have moved more towards belief that there's definitely something going on. I've always thought there's something going on. Now I really feel, you know what, there's more to this than we see. Because it's one of those things. You can't have a cursory knowledge of UFOs. Like if you talk to somebody on the street, oh yeah, I've heard of Roswell. You don't know about UFOs. When you interview these guys, when you read these books, when you deep Dive into this. It's a layered onion, as you know. So you start getting more and more knowledge in this area. There's some serious shit going on here. And, you know, I've had the honor of talking to people like Avi Loeb. Yes. You don't get to be the top of astronomy at Harvard without knowing something. And he says it's most likely that somebody's gonna be coming here. Why is he saying that? I give credence to these guys where I think some people dismiss those guys, and that's not right.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, well. Cause part of me wonders at this point, like, so is there some. What's one piece of evidence or piece of information? Would you say that really kind of kicked you over the line?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Okay. I'll tell you right now, I hate this because it's the cliche, and I answer it the same always. But it is Roswell. And if you read the Roswell books that Don Schmidt and Tom Kerry have put together, their research is incredible. And they've interviewed these guys over and over, and they all fit into this perfect narrative. I mean, the idea that they interview the. The guy that runs the funeral home in that town, and at that night that Roswell crashed, he got a call at 3 in the morning and we need caskets. Bring him out here. Well, is there a car crash? Don't worry about it. Just bring him over. Well, I mean, that just fits so perfectly into the story. Who's gonna make that up? Who's gonna think of this? And Art Bell read the deathbed confession of that colonel. He says, I wrote this for my granddaughter to know that we're not alone in the universe. Because I saw the bodies and I saw the ship and I saw this. But I didn't want any of the bullshit. And I was threatened. Why would somebody do that? They wouldn't do that.

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Captain Ron Janix]

So I find that extremely clear. You do it for the money. You want to get fame, you want to get a book. Not that anybody makes any money on this shit, but they think that.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

So somebody like that, to me, that's compelling to me. I don't know why people aren't more compelled by some of these things. John Mack. You guys familiar with John Mack?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Head of psychiatry at Harvard. Another guy who went to look at this phenomenon and said, I'm gonna explain, since he's at the top of psychiatry in the world.

[Henry Zabowski]

He was. Yeah. This is another guy that had his career ruined by his interest in UFOs because he was a legit guy.

[Captain Ron Janix]

A legit guy.

[Henry Zabowski]

That wanted to talk to experiencers.

[Captain Ron Janix]

So why do we talk? Why do we take this guy as being at the top of his game? And he's this highly respected guy. And then he sets out to say, I'm gonna figure out what's wrong with these people. It must be another phenomenon. And then he looked into it and he said, no, that's not what it is. Something really is happening to them. So if this guy's the top of his class, top in the world of this, why don't we then take his answer? All of a sudden he's crazy. That must be nonsense.

[Ed Larson]

And he's a professional bullshit detector.

[Captain Ron Janix]

That's bullshit to me. I can't stand that. If you guys can't take John Mack at his word, or Avi Lobet, his word, or these guys, then why do we even have academia? Why do these guys raise to that level?

[Henry Zabowski]

Exactly. I actually, I do think that that's really interesting. And I also wonder in the last 15 years, has anybody. Because what I'll get, even on my level, I'll get somebody who's like, your level.

[Captain Ron Janix]

You mean like low level?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, Yep, I exactly. I get. People send me stuff that they're like, what's your. Like, don't let anybody know about this. I have secret information. You have to look at this thing. What's like a thing? Like, how often does that happen?

[Captain Ron Janix]

That does occasionally happen to me. What happens more often to me? See, if this ever happens to you guys, I'll meet somebody I don't know, or I'll be wherever. And maybe they find out what I do, or they ask what I do and I tell them. And they'll immediately be like, well, no, I don't believe in any of that nonsense. That's all bullshit. I swear to God. I've told the story a hundred times. I swear it's true. They do that old Columbo routine where they go, no, no, that's. You know, there's this one time.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I was up late at night. My dad and I were fishing. It was dark. This thing came across the sky. Wait a minute. A minute ago, this was nonsense. And then you have a personal. I don't even have that. They have it. It's very common that people have an experience.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yeah. Or.

[Captain Ron Janix]

My mom told me a story when I was a little girl. You hear these things. It's amazing how prolific that is.

[Ed Larson]

So let me ask you something. As someone who obviously believes. You're the owner. Co. Owner. Of Contact and Addiction Desert, you've Never had an experience. Are you, like, actively looking at the skies, or you just go about your day?

[Captain Ron Janix]

No, I'm not that guy. I'm somebody that puts credence into what Avi Loeb says, credence into. John Mack says. I think Travis Walton is awesome.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I got to know Travis Walton. I did a whole special thing on his 45th anniversary. I brought his brother back in. I brought the original people in. We had a big three thing. Pretty freaking believable, man.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, Travis Walton's would honestly the thing that switched me at contact last year, because it's just like the other guys have no reason to lie. The other guy, they all told the same story, and I love that. Like, Travis Walton, when he gets out of the car, he's. He's looking at the ship and he's talking shit, he's yelling at him, he's throwing shit, he's fucking screaming. They kicked his ass. They brought him up, and then he comes back without a scratch.

[Captain Ron Janix]

All of this is plausible to me. All of this makes sense. Exactly. Those guys would be like that. Of course, those guys would take off. Of course they'd be scared. All of it's very plausible to me. Even Roswell's plausible. And there's so many of these ancillary things that fit in the Travis Walton case. It's also great that there's one incident.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I'll tell you another thing for me personally, that I probably shouldn't say, because this will bite me in the ass. But when you come to me and you're Travis Walton and you say, listen, this one day, this one thing happened to me, I was out in the woods, the ship was there, I got beamed on, and that was it. Maybe lightning strikes, it's these guys. I can't stand that. Oh, you know, I've been to Mars and I've worked on alien bodies, and I've been underground on spaceships, and I've been underground on Earth with the military working on this, and I've operated on alien bodies and I've got implants.

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[Captain Ron Janix]

Minutes.

[Henry Zabowski]

Can I ask you. I want to ask your opinion then with stuff guys like that.

[Ed Larson]

I'm.

[Henry Zabowski]

I'm torn because I think that guys like that, obviously they believe the more details they throw into some kind of story that the more real it sounds. But I actually also wonder like, what do you think their other motives are? Because number one, there is people always say, oh, money, they sell book rights. Let me, let me straighten it out for you. There's not a heck of a lot of money in uology, especially in the book markets. And then to the idea of just. Or is it too just for attention? Like I do understand people lie for that attention. But I also wonder if there's ever something to this idea that there is some massive. Like we just did the Montauk project.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Preston Nichols, sure. Total, you know, God knows what's going on with this guy. But on some level you almost kind of wonder like, what if something did happen to him him and then the US government like did some kind of erroneous experiment, fucked up his life, scrambled his brains and then dropped them back into a Long island park. And now he's this babbling guy, this crazy sounding guy, but he actually was a part of something.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Like it could be a natural psychosis. It could be, you know, MK Ultra type stuff where they fuck with people, which they have done and they've come out and it's proven that they've done these kind of things. So. So, you know, I don't like to dismiss anybody's story completely out of hand because, you know, maybe these guys that I'm referring to, maybe it's genuine. Maybe that's possible. I don't lean that it is. I wouldn't bet a nickel that it is. I don't think that is. It feels very disingenuous. That's a one in a billion chance that something could happen to you. You've had nine of those happen to you. Now the math is in the multi trillions and that's hard.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's like you, Philip Schneider, you're the special one, you know what I mean? Like it's hard.

[Captain Ron Janix]

And you shot him and you got away and these other guys came and all the ant. It's like, well no, that's why I like Travis's case. I like these individual case one time with you know what? Maybe. Yeah, that's very plausible to me.

[Ed Larson]

And it's not like he was into it beforehand, you know, like it's right. You Know, that's. That's.

[Captain Ron Janix]

None of those guys were. They didn't even know about this.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. And so that's what. That's what's convincing to me. And also, it's just you. The problem is with all of this is if you're gonna take it seriously, you do have to listen to everybody, no matter how absurd it sounds. And you have to invest. You have to take it all seriously. You have to investigate all of it. And it's very time consuming because a lot of people come in there with crazy stuff.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Guess what sucks now you add misinformation. You have misidentification.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Which is 95% of the cases. But then you have misinformation. Then you have intentional Richard Doty disinformation.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Now that's really cloud the water, so it makes it even harder to get to the truth. I always think that a lot of these things, there's 10% truth in it. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And then when I hear it over and over, I mean, why are these abduction stories throughout history, word for word? If you ever read Communion, there's some great pieces in Communion where Whitley describes. He writes, passages that people wrote hundreds of years ago ago that sound like an alien abduction case from today.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, it's. I completely agree.

[Captain Ron Janix]

So that's credible.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes. Something's been going on. I'm a. Jacques Vallee.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Like a student. I totally believe there's some kind of either physical slash psychic phenomena that follows our consciousness, whatever the hell it is. I don't quite know. Like, I. I wonder now, like, do you feel like. With stuff like this, have you ever felt that the Men in Black or anything like the idea of, like, do you think that the government ever fucked.

[Captain Ron Janix]

With Contact at Contact in the Desert? Yeah, I don't think they fucked with it at all. But I mean, I've heard from many people, including Nick Pope, that there are DoD officials that have shown up at Contact in the desert. And it makes perfect sense to me. Do you know what I think, you guys? What do you guys think of Arrow?

[Henry Zabowski]

I think that this whole thing got outed and that they have been trying to figure out how to package it in a way that makes sense. And I also think that Lou Elizondo's influence might have been less than he puts himself into the scenario. I think that.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Oh, you mean like every single person in ufology? You guys can edit that right out, no problem. But anyway, something like Arrow, to me, which is garbage. I don't think it's to share the information with us. It's, I want to see what you guys have.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

They want to collect everything so that they know what people have.

[Henry Zabowski]

But one of the biggest questions I always, always have is, okay, let's say the US Government is right. There's no such thing as UFO activity. Everything they've come out and said is correct. It's like, you know, we're not doing. But then why have they put so much time and effort in discrediting all these movements?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Right. Why are there these $80 million programs that, oh, there's nothing to see here if there's nothing. Okay. Not only that, adding exactly to what you said, Henry. So in 2023, they had the Schumer bill, the UAP disclosure bill.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

And then in December, they gutted it. They took all the teeth out of it. Wait a minute. If there's nothing to hide here, why do you need to gut this bill? I have.

[Henry Zabowski]

Well, they say it's to protect the special cameras, to protect the special ways.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Oh, shit. There are no Bigfoot living in my apartment. And if you want to send a bill that says, I'm going to look in your apartment, God forbid, go right ahead, please. So if you got nothing to hide, then why would you not say, come take a look. Why do we have to take all the teeth out of that? That alone is suspicious as hell to me.

[Ed Larson]

Like, they released the Tic Tac footage. We've seen that, you know, with everything that was going on with the drones last year. So it's not like the American public hasn't seen, you know, footage that is extremely credible from the government. And what was the response? No one really cared. So why are they hiding it?

[Henry Zabowski]

Well, January 2023. Look, we shot all those things out of the sky. We did all this thing over Michigan. They shot an object the size of a sedan that no one would claim above Alaska. And we were all just acting like it didn't happen because they couldn't find. And then they went to go look for the rubble, and they said, oh, it was a snowstorm. And then I had friends that were actually in Alaska, the time period that they were like, sky's clear. Sky's clear. They definitely could have went and looked for that shit if they wanted to.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I think things like Arrow and these other things, you know, when we say government, that's too broad of a term. I do subscribe to the idea. I think Danny Sheehan's on board with this, too. Is the idea that, as Dr. Stephen Greer says, that this knowledge is held in a black budget, unacknowledged project. It's not like government employees know this about this. It's not like when we say the government, it's probably. Yeah, right. So if it. This is held, this knowledge is held in a small group throughout history, whoever had the best technology won the war. It's been that way since the dawn of man, 200,000 years ago. It's been that way since.

[Ed Larson]

Since the bow and arrow.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah. Previous to that, in 2001, they had the bone. That was enough. You had a better technology than the other idiot. So I think that that's been going. So if you have this knowledge, why would you share it? So I don't think most people in government or even people at Arrow, they do have plausible deniability because they're not going to put the guy that really does know in charge of it.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, because we're going to put some.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Jackass that doesn't know anything.

[Henry Zabowski]

Because a lot of times they're not good talkers. They're not good talkers either.

[Captain Ron Janix]

That's by design.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

They're not going to put some guy that really knows the dirty secrets and really has that information and is a great talker. They're not going to do that. So to me, that's how I feel about it.

[Henry Zabowski]

Is there anything that's appeared at Contact that like, has truly blown your mind? Also, for the people that don't know, Dan, Daniel Sheehan is a very influential lawyer. That was a part of like, he worked on, I believe, Watergate. He was a part of the whole Silkwood Iran Contra. He did a lot of stuff. He worked a lot. A lot of different things. He very important that is now taken up the mantle of helping whistleblowers and helping people come out with UFO information. What broke him?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, Danny's been privy to some information which is awesome. That makes him fully believe this.

[Henry Zabowski]

I got to go see him talk. And the way he talks about it is just like, I've seen it. You will see it one day. But I've seen it and I was like, show it to me.

[Captain Ron Janix]

He's seen it. He's been to the Vatican archives. He has seen some great. Now here's another credible guy. Talk about a credible guy. This guy's record is beyond reproach and he's just been fighting for humanity for years. I mean, how great to have him in our corner. I mean, that is as credible as it gets.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's just very interesting. And I just wonder if anybody else Because I saw his talk at Contact, which was great. Was fascinating. Talk about all, like, the maneuverings of, like, using all these, like, new whistleblower laws and stuff.

[Ed Larson]

What else did.

[Henry Zabowski]

Contact is like, blown your mind.

[Ed Larson]

Has anyone ever brought in anything, like, physical.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah, we had that guy that goes by the name alien hunter.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yep.

[Captain Ron Janix]

And he brought in all kinds of things that he claims are implants that he.

[Henry Zabowski]

I remember stuff like that.

[Captain Ron Janix]

It's like, you know, maybe. Yeah, there's. Those are all into the unknowable box. How would I know? Yeah, it might be he's collected over the years. Maybe.

[Ed Larson]

What about like a skull or something?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, we. No, no, but we do have the crystal skull comes there. The actual Mitchell Hedges crystal skull is there, and people get to meet with them and everything. It's really cool.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, I got our Aurors taken. Last time we had our Aurors pictures taken. There's a lot like, how do you choose what all ends up there?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, you know, we have a kind of a committee of us. We all kind of think about it. We go down to Gordon's house in Mexico and we talk about these things. And, you know, each year there's kind of things that are happening or hot. Like this year we're doing the telepathy tape lady.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Which is huge. That's suddenly the hottest thing in the world, you know, and it's incredible. Again, John Hopkins, Harvard. That's where she did her studies. She's been studying these kids for 15 years. This is incredible stuff, and it's legit. We really do want to lean into the scientific academic side of this.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes.

[Captain Ron Janix]

We really separate ourselves from other events. Nothing against the other events. It's just we each have our own lane sort of a thing. Our lane is really moving. And even my podcast, Beyond Contact, which is tied to Contact, we want to lean into the academic side of things. We want to interview Danny Sheehan. We want to interview historians like Richard Dolan. Let's find out the actual first document, you know, firsthand witnesses, that kind of thing. We don't like the speculative stuff.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yes.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Maybe people can talk to cats. Maybe people have been on Mars. Maybe all that's true. Let somebody else handle that. That's great. And if I'm wrong on that stuff. Awesome. I'll be. I'd love it. Yeah, let's stick. We want to stick in the lane over here that's more academic, more scientific, and let's get to what's going on.

[Henry Zabowski]

And I will say thank you so much for letting us Come and ruin the festival.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, it was a great thing up until now. Now that you guys are part of it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know, very excited.

[Captain Ron Janix]

We were a five star event. Now we're at about 0.5. I've noticed that.

[Ed Larson]

And the only thing that's time's still there.

[Henry Zabowski]

Hey, man. And that's the effect that 0.5 is really sticky.

[Captain Ron Janix]

You know what's funny about that is I was on the first podcast on the left this morning.

[Henry Zabowski]

So I hate these fuckers.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Really weird that I ended up here.

[Ed Larson]

And after this heaven.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Is that it?

[Ed Larson]

So let me ask you, is anyone going to be talking about the drone thing this year? Because. No. It seemed to go completely unanswered.

[Captain Ron Janix]

The drone thing went away, didn't it? Awfully quick.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. And now we're just pretending like nothing. It was the only thing anyone was talking about at the beginning of this year. Year. I know a lot of crazy has happened in the news, especially like the Pope died yesterday and stuff. But what I mean, like, come on. Like, is anyone like, does anyone have a report? Does anyone like what do we.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Doesn't it feel like those were military drones? And doesn't it seem like my.

[Ed Larson]

I think some of them. Sure.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I think it's most likely something like a military drone that's looking for like a dirty bomb.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's what they were.

[Captain Ron Janix]

One theory that makes the most sense to me. We don't want to talk about it. Don't shoot it. Down. Down. Don't worry about it.

[Henry Zabowski]

Don't worry about it.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Don't worry about it. Because they don't want to say that out loud. Which makes sense.

[Henry Zabowski]

See, I got a fun one. We did a live show. We were just. Indeed we were. Did a live show. And after the live show I was like saying goodbye to people like, you know, like at the end and the guy pulls me aside and he's like I work for the intelligence services. And what we are currently working on. The reason why they're not talking about what the drones were is that they are. Are a pilot AI flown drone squadron. They are. They're not only non manned, but there's no humans involved in flying them at all.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Was it interesting meeting Richard Doty personally.

[Henry Zabowski]

I love the guy. I love the guy. No, because I saw them was like we've been. We followed it for weeks. Like we watched all. Looks like I was screaming. I did a whole thing on last stream in the left about nothing to see here. Like certainly not a bunch of drones turning into gobbledygook and Then zapping other drones out of the sky. That's not for certain. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, it was insane footage. Across this country, across the world, there.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Were guys that were running boats and driving out just to film.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Just know we're gonna probably do quite a bit of drone talk.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, we drone on a lot.

[Henry Zabowski]

But that's a part of what we're gonna. Don't worry. We'll handle the drones. Don't you worry about that.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Don't ask, don't tell. We don't tell. We don't let any. We don't tell speakers what to say. Including, shockingly, you, gentlemen.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, yes. Have you.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Gentlemen is being very, very. You know, I have.

[Henry Zabowski]

Earlier, I'm disgusted you were even called.

[Ed Larson]

Did you get any. What was the response from our show? Did you get any complaints?

[Captain Ron Janix]

A lot of negative stuff.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah. Good, good.

[Captain Ron Janix]

No, it's all good. I'm glad you guys got a sense of what contact is, because it's one thing to tell somebody, it's one thing to talk about it, but, like, you know, then you see it.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's like, I'm converted.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Oh, I get it.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, dude. I go. I would go for free. I would go to. I'd buy tickets.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Do you not agree to this, though? Because this is something that frustrates us. People have a misconception in their brain that this is tinfoil hat. Crazy people talking about crazy shit the whole time, you know?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

It's certainly not.

[Henry Zabowski]

You do a good job. Because there are. There are people. Obviously, it's all layers. Oh, yeah, for sure. So on one level, I was joking about how I came into the lobby of the hotel and there are people that put me to shame. Shame for how driven I am about this material. Right. Like, I'm seeing people live, eat, and breathe. And I'm watching them all, too. I was like, they're taking it so much even more seriously than me. There's a part of me that I thought we were all gonna be getting drunk in the pool. Like, I thought all y'all gonna be the pool. And then when they're. When I didn't say, I was like, oh, no, this is actually pretty serious. And then what was nice is like, yeah, sure, you got some. You got all spectrum. You have the whole spectrum.

[Captain Ron Janix]

It really is.

[Henry Zabowski]

So there really is those. Truly. They got the ground grounded side. You got your Jeremy Corbell, George Knapp.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

And then you have our friend Michael O Sedona, who's on the other side. They would tell you who does also crazy stuff. Because. But it's fun because it's a part of the whole experience. And I. What we're gonna try to do is kind of bridge those two. Right. The idea of, like, we're. We calm, knowing what we're talking about, but also we're joking about it because I don't know how else to speak.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Speak well, and that's fine.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, it's entertainment when we're up there, you know, we are the entertainment. We're not the. They're not coming to us for expert opinions. We don't have doctors.

[Captain Ron Janix]

We have Ross Cohart for that. Oh, but, dude, that's fine.

[Henry Zabowski]

I want to party with him, though, this year. This year, though, I'm getting more of these guys in the pool. I was saying that I'm like, listen, we could have these same discussions outside in the water.

[Captain Ron Janix]

It's 100 degrees in the center of the pool. It works.

[Henry Zabowski]

I feel like we should push it. There's a part of me that last year. Are. You. Are. You saw me. You saw my Polish body.

[Ed Larson]

So I got a question about too.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Much of it, to be honest.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, my gosh. I love being in that pool. It was a great time. Now, I gotta say, I was outside of another event. It was very nice. You guys had. You played ET outside for everybody, the families and all that.

[Henry Zabowski]

That was great.

[Ed Larson]

That was really nice. But during the ET showing, there was some crazy crap happened in the sky. There's a bunch of blue stuff broke up there. Well, did you hear about that?

[Henry Zabowski]

It was all SpaceX. I think it was all that.

[Captain Ron Janix]

That's. That' that's what we guess.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah. Yeah. But it was awesome. But talk about the place, watching an alien. I definitely was smoking a J out there and watching somebody go like, there's something in the sky. And I was just like, God damn it. I knew it would happen.

[Captain Ron Janix]

At Contact, we have those folks that see it every day, as you know, as you mentioned earlier, you know, it's that whole gamut, and it's fun and it's funny how things do happen at Contact. It's just weird. Like, even the Ross Kohlhart, the first big interview he did with David Grusch happened during Contact. It was the year before you guys came. We literally stopped the event, all poured into one room, and we all watched the live press conference together. And then Danny Sheehan and Richard Dolan went up, and speakers were, like, in the audience asking questions. Hey, do you think he knows this? And do you think this? And why couldn't he say this? And it was awesome.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's awesome.

[Captain Ron Janix]

So it's great that things happen there like that. And we've had people with that say that CE5 has happened, and they've seen things. It's awesome.

[Henry Zabowski]

I mean, if it doesn't happen there, where the hell could it.

[Captain Ron Janix]

You know, if. If it requires that energy and that mindset, well, boy, we have it. Or else you got to get 2000 people together thinking about this.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Something happens, all right. Something lands on the golf course. What's the protocol?

[Henry Zabowski]

Who do we send? Like, literally for. For contact?

[Ed Larson]

Everyone.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I was going to say Henry, to be honest, but, I mean, I don.

[Henry Zabowski]

I think. Only reason why is because I feel like if they're going to destroy me, at least we don't blow George Knapp. You know what I mean? Like, if I go and I get immediately zapped by lasers, technically, I've. I died how I lived.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, I think if you mentioned it earlier, we would send Danny Sheehan out there as our guy, right? Wouldn't that be.

[Henry Zabowski]

This is my lawyer. That would be me talking to the alien. This is my lawyer.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Intergalactic law.

[Henry Zabowski]

Talk to my lawyer. There you go.

[Captain Ron Janix]

There you go.

[Henry Zabowski]

How do you feel about the jellyfish shapes? UFOs. Have you been looking about this?

[Captain Ron Janix]

I've seen that. I've seen. There's all these. There's cigar triangle jellyfish, though, because they.

[Henry Zabowski]

These guys fight me on jellyfish.

[Ed Larson]

They seem silly.

[Henry Zabowski]

They don't like jellyfish, I utterly believe, because they're.

[Captain Ron Janix]

They're. They're describing that shape. It's not a jellyfish. Yeah, I know it's not a jellyfish. Henry thinks it's a jellyfish.

[Ed Larson]

No, it's not a jellyfish.

[Henry Zabowski]

Jellyfish shape.

[Ed Larson]

It's like. It's a jelly.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Debris hanging. There's some. There's some hanging off of it. What is that?

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

And it doesn't move. The debris doesn't move. The debris is stiff. You keep saying it's balloons. It's not balloons. It's a jellyfish ufo.

[Ed Larson]

I just. I say that it looks ridiculous more than I say it's balloons.

[Henry Zabowski]

Whatever, dude. How could they all. Everybody always has balloons.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I know that many balloons flying around here.

[Henry Zabowski]

I also like they. No one really watches UFO footage the way I watch. Watch it?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

You know what I mean? Like, kind of like, how do you.

[Ed Larson]

Everyone watches it the way you watch it in the middle of the night in their underwear, stoned out of their mind.

[Henry Zabowski]

Do you not do that?

[Ed Larson]

Is that not how you research, Captain?

[Captain Ron Janix]

That is not how I do it. But that's. It's interesting.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's how the information slides in.

[Captain Ron Janix]

But then you talk to some of these guys, Even like Mark D'Antonio, who's an astronomer that comes that we love. He takes a bus out into the desert and they look at. Do a skywatch and it's awesome. Oh yeah, that's another great, great aspect of contact. But you know, he will explain to you and then you'll be like, oh, it's not a UFO. I think 99% of the footage we see is not a alien controlled craft at all.

[Henry Zabowski]

Here, show them this one.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, so I found this one. This one is like. So I'm always on the search because we do the show together and I've always want to find something for Henry. And I was sitting there, I got some shows coming up in South Florida. And so I'm like literally looking at the newspapers. Who's writing articles about comedy, trying to get in the promo on my show. So I find this one guy, his name, he goes by lacrosse writer. His name is David Osborne. Did not respond to my request to put me in the Naples News. But he on the front of his page, which is a private page, so I can't show it up there. But I made him be my friend has this footage that just looks. I can't explain this footage. And here's what he wrote. This is the first video I shot after seeing something odd in the sky at 4pm A guy not connected at all. You know, he's like literally an entertainment writer.

[Henry Zabowski]

Just a reporter. Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Whether it's a UFO or ufp, the object was quiet and moved slowly, changing shapes. Here you can see it morphing into a geometric sphere before moving to the left southeast behind the tree. There was a little to no wind that day with temperatures in the low 70s. All right, so here it is. Here's the footage.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, morphing shape right there. That's an odd behavior for.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, you got it up there.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Okay. Yeah, take a look. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

So let's look at this.

[Henry Zabowski]

So like, what's different between this? So like, I find this interesting. How is this.

[Captain Ron Janix]

It's awfully slow, right?

[Ed Larson]

For 12 likes. I like that. No one has really seen it or like knows about it. They. There's no reason for anyone to look at it. And this guy's like risking his career for. Not for likes, just for like. This is what I saw in my backyard.

[Henry Zabowski]

I guess it could be a deflated balloon, but I don't like, would not afflated Debate like why is it like in the sky like that?

[Captain Ron Janix]

And it is rotating. You can see that it's rotating.

[Henry Zabowski]

Whoa. Yeah, it looks.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Do you know there's a guy in Mexico today? It's on coast to coast am. There's a photo today of a guy who took a picture that's similar to this.

[Henry Zabowski]

Well, dude. Well how did you feel about that? Jetpack man?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Jetpack man in lax he came back like a year later and then like a year and a half, half later.

[Henry Zabowski]

Jetpack man is strange too because Jetpack man is in the same realm. It's in the same realm as jellyfish. And it's also like they're saying that there's no commercially available jetpack that is able to fly at that height and for that length of time.

[Captain Ron Janix]

I agree. But I, I, I don't jump to alien. That's a problem. I don't jump to alien any of these things.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, you're talking about this. There is a good new picture.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah, click on that, click on that link right there.

[Henry Zabowski]

This one right here. This one?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yes, yes. That's an interesting photo, isn't it?

[Henry Zabowski]

This was from Plano Informat Informativo. Plano Inform Informa at on Twitter. And yeah man, that is a pretty thick looking ufo. And it's like a goddamn hubcap.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Like a classic UFO flying saucer.

[Henry Zabowski]

And those are my favorite. Those are great saucer shapes are my favorite because it still it hearkens back.

[Captain Ron Janix]

But now we have the problem AI's out there. We just went to nab in Vegas. The technology is so sick. When you're editing now the programs automatically have this built in while you're editing. If you shoot this room and you get here and you're like ah, it will add 10 seconds for you. It will crazy what it thinks is there. Oh God, it's sick. So it's getting harder and harder to trust photos or videos. That's why you like these multi witness cases. If we had Phoenix Lights happen today and we did the drones. Well kind of. But, but, but the Phoenix Lights there were thousands of people at the same time, saw the same object and that.

[Ed Larson]

Drones were all over the place.

[Henry Zabowski]

And though, and the Phoenix Lights was such a display right. That it's, it was definitely felt like a thing of look at us, we are here. That's how it felt.

[Captain Ron Janix]

But not everybody had a phone in their phone or camera in their pocket like they do today. So if we had that now, I think it was 90s, wasn't it?

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I'm an idiot.

[Captain Ron Janix]

But even then we didn't have phones in our pocket with cameras on them like we do now. If that happened, that exact same event happened today, now you would have this same object from literally a thousand different perspectives. And all this eyewitness testimony, now you got something to build a case on. Now, that doesn't mean it's alien again. Why couldn't this be a secret military project? Why couldn't this be something else? But would be a lot more interesting, wouldn't it?

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, very much so, because I also find that. I found that they. When you look at that footage, I do believe it was part of one giant structure. But, you know, I have a lot of people that, you know that the. The Fife Symington, the governor of Arizona, he came out and he apologized. He believed that he did see something that night. He freaked out after he kind of belittled the whole thing. Phoenix Lights is one of, still one of the most mysterious events in our history.

[Captain Ron Janix]

It's a great one. And even 1998, which is only 27 years ago, do you know that it was a different time already for this subject. That's why he felt he had to make a joke about it. It doesn't feel like somebody would do that today. A governor probably wouldn't do that today.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're more scared now, too.

[Captain Ron Janix]

We didn't see that when the drones came out, they didn't go, oh, it's an alien. They didn't.

[Henry Zabowski]

No, they did. They either talked about it very non. They very in, like, blankly, don't worry about it. Yes. Or there were. And then the rest of us spun.

[Captain Ron Janix]

And some of these senators were like, oh, my God, it's coming from a mothership. Like they went the other way.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah. Well, then you wonder, what are they getting out of it, too? Everybody's getting something out of it. I do believe on one hand, there's also an evangelical far right arm in our government that's really excited for things like something that could be an alien invasion or literally, they believe that some of the telltale signs that Jesus is coming, coming back is stuff like China will invade America. And to them, that's a good sign because it means we're all going to die, all the sinners are going to die, and Jesus is going to come back. And so that's the problems that also you're kind of. There's this other thing where half of our intelligence services have been taken over by literal, the most fantastical evangelical thinking, and they're trying to pop the seal to end the world and you hear.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Part of that supposedly being part of what they call the legacy people in government that know this information, that they're affiliated with this, and oftentimes they're coming from that angle. You got a guy like Chris Bledsoe who ties that into religion as well, but he's different.

[Henry Zabowski]

That's kind of like a. That's a personal relationship to God and how it was reflected by this phenomena. These other guys are trying, trying to make it happen, Right?

[Captain Ron Janix]

They're forcing it into that paradigm. Absolutely.

[Henry Zabowski]

And they're. But I don't know if the thing itself is going to be pulled into that paradigm itself. I find that the more they talk to whatever this trickster phenomena is or we deal with whatever this trickster phenomena is, it does not like to be used for other people's purposes. And I think that's a. That's a part of it. It's a. And it won't allow us.

[Captain Ron Janix]

And that goes way back, back to the gin even. You know, we talk about that. All these different beings that people saw. It's interesting how similar it time that that adds credibility to it, in my view.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Do you think Harry Reid knew more than he was?

[Captain Ron Janix]

For sure.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, for sure.

[Captain Ron Janix]

He's the guy that put the money into that program. The program, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Because I know he worked with it and he was always trying to find out what was going on. But at the same time, again, I don't. He was always interested. Why would he keep it secret?

[Captain Ron Janix]

Because I think these guys are in, let's call it mainstream government, the real government, the regular government government. You know, I do believe it's very, very possible. I am not at all a conspiracy theorist, but I do think it is possible that we would have black budget programs.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, we definitely do. We definitely do, absolutely do.

[Captain Ron Janix]

So I would think that something that is super technology that is alien in nature right into that program. So a guy like Harry Reid, even as prominent as he was, they say that they don't tell the presidents about UFOs because. Because this is a topic that's on a need to know basis and they don't need to know. And they're a short term, four year employee. They're out.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, you're out.

[Captain Ron Janix]

These legacy guys literally are there their whole life. Their kids come up in it and it's. They're sworn to secrecy and it's like a, you know, interesting, closely guarded thing.

[Henry Zabowski]

And that's what we're doing with the podcast industry. And I want to say that we're brave for that. So, guys, this time we did it. This is awesome. Thank you so much, Captain Ron.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Dude, appreciate it.

[Henry Zabowski]

So where do you. Your show?

[Captain Ron Janix]

What I want to know is how do. Do you unfunny people do a comedy show?

[Ed Larson]

Oh, I mean, it's a disaster every day.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Okay.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, I'm only funny when I'm on the clock.

[Captain Ron Janix]

It's an intentional train wreck. Is that. Is that your angle?

[Henry Zabowski]

The goal is to. The goal is to work your way up from a ditch.

[Ed Larson]

Got it.

[Henry Zabowski]

24 7.

[Ed Larson]

Half of comedy is lying to your audience.

[Henry Zabowski]

Most of them is telling them things that have never been true and never be true. Captain Ron, beyond context, your podcast.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yes, sir. Coast to Coast.

[Henry Zabowski]

Anything else you want to promo before? Just buy tickets for Contact in the Desert. See all of us.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. May 29th to June 2nd, we're going to be out there at the Renaissance. It's going to be a frigging blast.

[Henry Zabowski]

And I'm hosting my own talks in the pool.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

I want other Elron Hubbard shaped men with me in the pool. Bring your sunscreen.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

We 110 degrees outside and you just got to slather up.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, you got.

[Captain Ron Janix]

We did not even put that on the schedule intentionally. But it's an informal.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, no. I'm just going to.

[Ed Larson]

I'm hosting the Bell Lollipop Con.

[Henry Zabowski]

You're just gonna see me floating in the water, and that's where the. That's where you'll find me.

[Ed Larson]

I want to see Nick Pope do the limbo.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Well, you guys are doing your podcast live there. We've got, like, yes. Jesse Michaels is doing it there.

[Henry Zabowski]

Everybody's doing. It's a great. It's a great. And Ross Coolhart, who I love.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yeah, Ross is awesome. Josh Gates is gonna be there, which is amazing.

[Henry Zabowski]

He's great, too.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Amazing. And then, you know, these guys are gonna do the podcast live. We have five world premiere movies that have never been seen before for on this topic, so there's all kinds of stuff happening. But if people go to contactinthedesert.com they could find out about me. They could find out about Beyond Contact, our podcast. We cover all of these topics, and it's a lot of fun on there. And Contact's awesome too. Obviously. It's a lot of fun.

[Henry Zabowski]

It's just the best. So we'll see you in the desert. So first of all, I just want to say thank you to Ron Janix.

[Ed Larson]

You look nothing like Kirk Wrestle.

[Henry Zabowski]

He doesn't, but it's good to still see him. It's Good. It's good to still see him. He's strong but for the you we.

[Ed Larson]

Got it finally happened. Henry got the all the news happened.

[Henry Zabowski]

That needed to happen on the day that it happened. Lori Valo daybell is guilty. That side stories is number one.

[Ed Larson]

The side story curse is broken today baby. We broke it.

[Henry Zabowski]

We got all the the news. I can't believe all the news came out today.

[Ed Larson]

This is amazing.

[Henry Zabowski]

I am going to nut. Oh this is awesome.

[Ed Larson]

No yeah yeah that until Alec Baldwin dies this this evening get Alec Baldwin.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, exactly. Shut off there be like and stop. Trump gets shot in the head like well fire up the mics. Lori Valow guilty Bye conspiracy. Yep. Because she's fully fully guilty.

[Ed Larson]

What was it did and she's not sentenced yet. The sentencing is still to come.

[Henry Zabowski]

Correct.

[Captain Ron Janix]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabowski]

She just did her polite little smile. Worst lawyer ever.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

So Lori Valow screw you.

[Ed Larson]

You suck.

[Henry Zabowski]

And we will see you at the next trial. She has another trial coming.

[Ed Larson]

She has another trial for.

[Henry Zabowski]

For what? I believe this one's for Tammy.

[Ed Larson]

Oh cuz she's definitely involved.

[Henry Zabowski]

Well she definitely might have helped orchestrate it. I'm not certain but we will get there. They are going in levels of importance so I think it's whatever is the next one. She's the farthest from I have to remember I forgot what the next try go to patreon.com last podcast and the left to pay money to just scream. Watch a scream and go to at LP on the left and all of our various socials to look at that. Come and see us see us live on stream every Tuesday 6pm PST through the Patreon. It goes right to YouTube a couple days later and it's so much fun. And go to Twitch TV/LPNTV to watch all of our twitch streams this week. I don't know. We don't got a hoopa goo or a good pud this week. Right.

[Ed Larson]

I think the twitch streams are kind of like taking a little break.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're working on. Yes we might. The streams are taking a break and then we are reconfiguring how they are going to come out. But don't worry, they're coming back.

[Ed Larson]

There's lots of plans. There's lots of cool stuff happening. Plans within plans.

[Henry Zabowski]

Plan.

[Ed Larson]

We're letting Holden help make decisions.

[Henry Zabowski]

He's been doing good.

[Ed Larson]

He really has. It's very cool.

[Henry Zabowski]

Put his feet to the fire.

[Ed Larson]

Hey invasive species Ed Larson tours Florida. I'm coming. Are you ready? Naples off the hook Comedy Club May 6th you gotta come. It's a Tuesday. What the else are you doing in Naples on a Tuesday? All right, I'm Fort Myers. I'm talking to you, Marco Island. Get your ass. All right. Sarasota. It's a drive, but if you want to come, I'll say hi.

[Henry Zabowski]

I like Sarasota.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I know, but it's just far from Naples. But they're on the west side. Maybe they want to come down Bradenton. Who knows?

[Henry Zabowski]

Bradenton.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. And then May 7, Henry and I are doing side stories live.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

From the Fort Lauderdale Improv. Come and check that out. Jackie Zabrowski is going to be joining us now.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're going to be going ape shit.

[Ed Larson]

It's going to be a lot of fun. These side story shows have been off the chain, dude.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, dog.

[Ed Larson]

Having so much fun with these. And then the very next night on May 8th, we're going up to Orlando. We got two shows. The first one's already sold out, so get tickets to the late show at the Orlando Funny Bone. That's gonna be Henry, myself, and Jackie Zabrowski, of course. And then I'm going down to Key West. Yeehaw.

[Henry Zabowski]

He's gonna drink himself to death with all them. Was it nine toed cats?

[Ed Larson]

Six toed cats. Now I'm gonna be down there from May 9th to the 11th, and I want to give a little thank you to. We've got the keys for helping me promote the show. They've been promoting it for me and it's very cool. They're very cool guys. They produce lots of Key west stuff, including Fantasy Fest. So check them out on socials. On June 28, Henry, Marcus, myself, we're gonna meet the Coca Cola Roxy in Atlanta, Georgia. The following night, Henry and I got two side stories shows. Once again, back to back. Dad's Garage. First show. Guess what? Sold out you. So make sure you come to the late show. Those are going to be completely improv. Usually we at least like, think of the subjects ahead of time. These shows were going to a proper improv theater. And so we're going to do.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're making them up.

[Ed Larson]

We're making them up.

[Henry Zabowski]

You're going to like it because it's going to be fun.

[Ed Larson]

Suggestion you.

[Henry Zabowski]

We are definitely going to rely on the audience for suggestions and. But we'll see. We have a couple of little. I have some tricks up my sleeve.

[Ed Larson]

Of course. Of course. And then, of course, all the way in November. On November 3rd, [e-mail] last. Go and get on the ship, baby.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

All right. We're gonna have fun. We got shows. We got meet and greets.

[Henry Zabowski]

Oh, wow. We only got like, four tickets left to the late night show.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, really?

[Henry Zabowski]

Dad's garage. So go check it out.

[Ed Larson]

So go get. Go get those tickets. Yeah.

[Henry Zabowski]

Come on. We're gonna have fun. We're have a blast. And literally, we have no idea what we're gonna say. So it'll be fun.

[Ed Larson]

And then, of course, come hang out with us. And Captain Ron, a contact in the desert, May 29th. He's a good hang through June 2nd. Yeah. Very cool guy.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, we're gonna get drunk.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. So come on out. That's at the Renaissance all the way.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're gonna spark it. I'm gonna bring my good from home.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, we're gonna get.

[Henry Zabowski]

We're gonna, gonna get heel. We're gonna be out there, dog. And I'm gonna be in the pool, so come and check it out. And crime wave at sea, but both places we're gonna be wet. Physically wet.

[Ed Larson]

All right, you love it, guys. We'll talk to you next week.

[Henry Zabowski]

Yeah, because I gotta take a. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

You could take your man. It's fine.

[Henry Zabowski]

You'll see.

[Ed Larson]

He'll run. Janice.

[Henry Zabowski]

And live your everyday knowing for a fact. You just got to work up to the point that you take a. And you need to take a. Then you can love the fact that your body tells you when work is over. And then you can laugh the entire time you take on the ship because you know for a fact that you've completed your work for the day.

[Ed Larson]

Poo poo train.

[Henry Zabowski]

Poo fart.