
Christmas is here! And there's no better time to roll up a hog's leg and enjoy a nice movie... so this week Henry & Eddie are joined by Santa's favorite degenerate elf Jackie Zebrowski to discuss the best and worst Christmas movies of all time... Happy Holidays from everyone at LPN!
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Henry Zabrowski
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Ed Larson
Place to escape to. This is the last on the left side stories.
Henry Zabrowski
That's when the cannibalism started. Side Stories Yes.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
No. What a wonderful Christmas day Dingle bells.
Ed Larson
Dingle bells, dingle in my I got thick and it dingles and it pees out its front. Hey. Dingle bells, dingle bells I pee on my balls.
Henry Zabrowski
Why is he doing this perverted song?
Ed Larson
Yeah, why is he?
Jackie Zebrowski
I like how perverted it is.
Henry Zabrowski
Why is he doing song about urine?
Ed Larson
Yeah, well, laugh. Last year I had shingle bells, everybody.
Henry Zabrowski
You did that. You already did that joke at me.
Ed Larson
I did that joke constantly. Every holiday.
Jackie Zebrowski
Sounds like you need Christmas humor, Ed.
Ed Larson
It's a good one. You know, when I know where it originated, it'll never be as good as Whereas it originated is one time on Christmas I called my Aunt Patty and she's like, I have shingles. And I was just like, oh, you mean shingle bells. And then she got really mad and hung up the phone.
Jackie Zebrowski
I bet I'd also hang up the phone.
Ed Larson
It's that proof that it was a great joke.
Henry Zabrowski
You're right, because that's the audience that needed to receive it.
Jackie Zebrowski
Hell yeah. You gotta rib the that's got the shingles always.
Henry Zabrowski
If she can't take a joke, how is she gonna handle the rest of the shingles?
Jackie Zebrowski
All right, Supreme.
Henry Zabrowski
You really got to smile your way through it. Welcome to Side Stories. Talking about smiling side.
Ed Larson
Stories.
Henry Zabrowski
My name is Henry Zabrowski I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.
Ed Larson
How you doing?
Henry Zabrowski
And then I have a little bitch on a shelf.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah, you better get that right on the st. And I'm here to tell everybody. Santa Claus, Santa Claus. Henry's touching my panties again. And it's always scary when the bitch on the shelf comes to snitch.
Henry Zabrowski
That's righty Zabrowski. I don't touch the elf. The bitch on the shelf Spanish.
Ed Larson
I know it doesn't matter, but the bitch on the shelf says you do and you don't get no fucking toys.
Jackie Zebrowski
Can't stop the bitch on the shelf. Can't stop the bitch on the shelf.
Henry Zabrowski
I'll hold my honesty on my own. I'll hold my true story.
Ed Larson
Your blood pressure's high.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes, it is.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Long way.
Ed Larson
So our Halloween movie show, our horror movie show, people really liked it.
Henry Zabrowski
People did enjoy it.
Ed Larson
So we figured as a Christmas gift to the audience, we would come back and talk about Christmas movies with Jackie and I. Me, I love a good Christmas movie.
Henry Zabrowski
I am fine with them. Yeah, I. Now we're talking about Christmas movies. I'm glad we are, because it is Christmas Day. This is the last day in which which I am happy. I believe I've received enough Christmas. I started celebrating Christmas with the rest of society as I forced to on December 1st. I have gone and seen several trees. I saw the big tree. I went to 30 Rock. I went down to. I saw the. I went to two malls. I saw. We went to the gay men's choir, which was amazing and special.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
And so what's awesome is that the second we press stop on this recording, I get to be finally out of Christmas. Wow. But I asked.
Ed Larson
You're hosting Christmas.
Henry Zabrowski
Christmas Eve. It's different. Christmas Eve is nice.
Ed Larson
Yeah, it is nice.
Henry Zabrowski
Christmas Eve doesn't. Jesus ain't here yet. That's what's nice about Christmas.
Jackie Zebrowski
Does he show up on Christmas Day?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, in the morning. That's when he flops out of her big raggedy ass.
Ed Larson
Pussy. I invited some people to your house on Christmas Eve.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah? Who's. Who's coming?
Ed Larson
Some people. I'm not going to be there though, so if you can just entertain them and feed them.
Henry Zabrowski
Maybe that Uncle Ron guy. What's his name? The guy had been watching on Instagram. Uncle Ron.
Ed Larson
Uncle Ron's is Ron Per T. That's not who you're thinking of?
Henry Zabrowski
No, there's a guy that we've been watching. It's highly inappropriate.
Ed Larson
Oh, and he's also Called Uncle Ron.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, he's called like Uncle Roy.
Ed Larson
Oh, yeah, he's very upsetting.
Henry Zabrowski
Jackie, I want to find this before.
Ed Larson
We start talking about Chris unplugging this guy. Your phone's over here.
Henry Zabrowski
I think that he's a. Yeah, he's a problem.
Ed Larson
No, he's definitely like my father's potential favorite comedian. But he doesn't.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah, no, it's Uncle. Yeah, Uncle Ron.
Ed Larson
Oh, it is Uncle Ron.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, it is Uncle Ron. He said some really controversial stuff and he likes to piss his own pants. He's my Christmas aunt spirit animal.
Ed Larson
Is he a postman? You know, speaking of Christmas, I don't.
Henry Zabrowski
Think he has a job.
Ed Larson
I used to have. Have when I worked at the Village poor house in the East Village. I remember we used to have like big Christmas parties all the time and they'd be like, that was what you make a lot of money those time. That time.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
I remember American Airlines came in and they were like, we're gonna have a big party in the back and we charge the out of it.
Henry Zabrowski
We jacked that up. Like, give us your money. Give me that stupid comfort seating. Yeah, you.
Ed Larson
But what happened was we jacked it up to an obscene amount of money. They agreed to pay it, but you know, remember how the postman used to always get drunk at our. One of them was stumbled in the back and p. His pants in the middle of the American.
Jackie Zebrowski
That's awesome. That's what I'm talking about. I am so upset, man.
Ed Larson
As opposed to.
Jackie Zebrowski
I love this. We were just watching Scrooge and I was thinking about this, man, I am so sad that we missed out on big drunk corporate parties where everybody made horrible mistakes.
Ed Larson
I've been to a bunch of them. But yeah, those days are over.
Henry Zabrowski
But just understand the problem with those parties is that like, let's say there's 60 people there, 20 people are having the best night of their life.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
20 of the people are just. It's fine. It's wherever they want to get the hell out of of there.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And 20 people experience a life shattering trauma that ends their career and ends their lives.
Jackie Zebrowski
Holiday is all about a crapshoot, so.
Henry Zabrowski
You never know what's going to come up.
Jackie Zebrowski
But I want my ass on the copy machine.
Henry Zabrowski
You can do that at home.
Ed Larson
Yeah, we'll get you a copy machine.
Jackie Zebrowski
Can you find me one, please? They still have them somewhere.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh yeah.
Ed Larson
Or a scanner at least. Now, now this is one of the questions I have that I. I had prepped for today and this is A perfect way to go into it. I know. We were gonna. We're eventually going to get to what we think are the worst Christmas movies ever.
Henry Zabrowski
No, ye. Mine.
Ed Larson
Yeah. But before we get into that, since we're talking about Scrooged, I wanted to get your opinion, because I know we both. We all love Scrooge.
Henry Zabrowski
I think Scrooge is probably top five. One of my top ten movies.
Ed Larson
Or you can only keep one bupid Christmas Carol because they're basically the same plot.
Henry Zabrowski
They are.
Ed Larson
You know, so all the other Scrooge movies. And like, you know, can't we just.
Jackie Zebrowski
Burn the books of Charles Dickens instead?
Ed Larson
Charles Calkins, please.
Jackie Zebrowski
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Henry Zabrowski
According to Uncle Ron.
Ed Larson
So, I mean. I mean, what's. I mean, what is like to me, I feel like I used to love Scrooged more, but as time goes by, Muppet Christmas Carol is irreplaceable.
Henry Zabrowski
Muppet Christmas Carol is objectively a better film than Scrooge, better acted. Well, I just. In terms of. Across the. I'd say in terms of the accuracy to the material, the way the material is presented, how much fun I'm having when I'm watching it. I love singing the song, looking their little Muppet feet. I love Muppets. And I think that it is a better film, but I think that I. That's kind of the opposite for me as I get older. Scrooged is evil, but Scrooged, I learn.
Ed Larson
More from you think so?
Henry Zabrowski
Like the ending monologue for Scrooge, which even though it's hard because Bill Murray was, I guess, famously a piece of shit. Yeah.
Ed Larson
Set most sets, apparently.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. He was a. Unfortunately, even though he's my comedy hero, one of my comedy heroes, and I'd faint if I met him, he's one of those people that he, you know, he technically took that entire set hostage and he did whatever he wanted with it. But that ending speech. Speech that he gives is so heartfelt.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And so, like, it felt like Bill Murray talking to himself.
Ed Larson
Yeah, right.
Henry Zabrowski
It felt like a man, a hard man talking to himself in. In the only way he can, which is through character on camera and. And convincing himself that Christmas is good.
Ed Larson
And him and Karen Allen together.
Jackie Zebrowski
Amazing. But what about that?
Henry Zabrowski
Fifteen years later and they're just starting out.
Jackie Zebrowski
It is very. I think it is.
Henry Zabrowski
We were joking about that.
Jackie Zebrowski
It is a little bit creepy that it's. All of a sudden. It' is against every fiber of your being. It's never gonna work. But I have a Question for you guys. We talk about this on page 7 every year. How do you feel about the fact that on Disney and also I believe the DVDs they took out in Muppet Christmas Carol, they took out the Love is Gone, but you can watch it in the extended version, like the theatrical version on Disney, but it's not the original thing that you click on. So they take out what I call is the fulcrum of the movie. They take out the love song because they're like kids don' it doesn't cast well. But it's such an amazing song. And it's also very important to the.
Henry Zabrowski
Story because it makes you understand what happened to Scrooge.
Jackie Zebrowski
So I dare say that I would choose Scrooge if we're talking about Muppet Christmas Carol without When Love Is Gone. But with When Love Is Gone, I feel that Muppet Christmas Carol is. It hurts me to say it, but.
Henry Zabrowski
It'S a better song. It's a better movie. Love is Gone. The sweet.
Ed Larson
I did not see this coming. I know. Also, Scrooge says Jeffrey Joseph.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Which is very important.
Henry Zabrowski
And I can text him each time or comment on Instagram that I just saw you in the film.
Jackie Zebrowski
And it. I. It never fails that I watch it legitimately every year and it always makes me laugh.
Henry Zabrowski
It really does.
Ed Larson
It's filled with jokes. Richard Donner. Who would have thought?
Jackie Zebrowski
So good.
Henry Zabrowski
But again, it's all Bill Murray and then the other. And the characters, they all. It was the Carol Kane. It's just an incredibly cast. It's just so good. It's so well cast. Bobcat Goldthwait, which then you think about Bobcat Goldthwait, how he made it an entire entire superstar level career with a. Just having a funny voice.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah, dude. It's the dream.
Henry Zabrowski
It just doesn't happen anymore. But he made it like a dream that you thought you could get. Do you remember he had an entire summer blockbuster film of him talking to a horse. Oh, hot.
Ed Larson
The truck.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
John Candy played the horse.
Henry Zabrowski
It was a huge movie.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
But his Bigfoot movie actually I don't think was that bad.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, Willow Creek was good.
Jackie Zebrowski
It's not like. It is definitely one of those. That's like. It's more in your brain than of what you're seeing. So it's not like by a lot of people thought it was boring, but I thought it was fun.
Ed Larson
God bless America is pretty crazy.
Henry Zabrowski
I like God plus America. But it's also kind of. It's interesting. It also doesn't I don't know if.
Ed Larson
It doesn't hold up as much, but also is, like, more poignant than ever. At the same time.
Henry Zabrowski
I love Bill. Bob could go as a director. Willow Creek, I thought was kind of weak, only just because Bigfoot I don't find scary.
Jackie Zebrowski
I also. You're right. Bigfoot is not scary. I went into it knowing nothing about it. I think that's why I enjoyed it, because I didn't know absolutely anything. So, you know, sometimes you got to throw one of those on.
Henry Zabrowski
But Bob Good Goldweed is a very good director. And. But that's the kind of the. The rest of the cast. Father of the Year, they also have God.
Jackie Zebrowski
Father of the Year still holds up. I watched it a couple years ago. I was just like, man, Robin Williams.
Henry Zabrowski
Is so funny in that movie. Yeah, he's so funny. That's like. And I think that was, like, one of the last roles that he was all the way there for, too. I believe that was the one where.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, no, it's not Father of the Year.
Henry Zabrowski
What's it?
Jackie Zebrowski
World's Greatest Dad. World's Greatest Dad.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. That's what it was. Yeah. Father of the Years, David Spirit. Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
That's a very different movie.
Henry Zabrowski
It's a different one. Yeah. World's. World's Greatest dad is the one where he has to deal with his son.
Ed Larson
It's so interesting. But in the movie called man of the Year and Father's Day.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
So you can see where we get confused.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah. You know, there's a lot of movies out there.
Ed Larson
But one thing we wanted to talk about today, I think. I think most important in this world of negativity, we wanted to talk about what we consider to be the worst.
Henry Zabrowski
The worst of them.
Ed Larson
The worst Christmas movie.
Henry Zabrowski
Because everybody talks about the best one. I.
Ed Larson
And we will.
Henry Zabrowski
Right. I personally, I understand. I'm against. I have an unpopular opinion. If I dislike all of the old maudlin Christmas movies, I don't know what you're talking about. I hate miracle on 34th Street. Don't like meet me in St. Louis. I don't like A White Christmas. I don't like any of those. You know what it is?
Ed Larson
They're good for the daytime, not nighttime.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. How do I say? They're all movies made by horrible, abusive drunks.
Jackie Zebrowski
So was the wizard of Oz.
Henry Zabrowski
Exactly. But it was good. Being the wizard of Oz is good. You know what it is? They inspire a. An emotional response in me that I don't like. It's a Wonderful Life also doesn't like Those are the type of things that it's like. That's not what I like from Christmas. I hate sad Christmas.
Jackie Zebrowski
You ain't said anything. I feel like anytime you feel precipitation on your face, you just go, I hope I'm sweating.
Ed Larson
Yeah. Jackie and I live in the same sad world.
Henry Zabrowski
I like that. Well, Jackie likes to cry. I just like cry. And it's. But it's not for me. It's just. I just don't like to work out.
Ed Larson
And tears are the same solution as sweat.
Jackie Zebrowski
You're damn right.
Henry Zabrowski
Because it's just your body crying.
Jackie Zebrowski
You damn right.
Henry Zabrowski
But I think that the worst Christmas movie of all time, as far as I'm concerned, is Christmas with the Cranks.
Ed Larson
Wow.
Henry Zabrowski
And Christmas with the Cranks. The reason why I absolutely can't stand that movie is that it is, unfortunately, Tim Allen at the end of his powers. Jamie Lee got him back.
Ed Larson
He's got his.
Jackie Zebrowski
Jamie Lee Curtis is kind of fun in it. I don't think it deserves 5% on rotten tomatoes. If you like these kind of Christmas movies, it is perfect for that. I feel like.
Henry Zabrowski
Not, though. Do you understand what the message that movie is, the very center of that movie is? Don't you even try to be different. It's literally about, don't try to be different. Do the same thing that you've always done. Do what we do. Don't do what other people want you to do.
Jackie Zebrowski
That's what Christmas movies are.
Henry Zabrowski
It's all about conforming and coming home to a family that you don't want to go to. And then you gotta go and be a part of this ritual that you don't want to necessarily be in. And everybody's pressuring you and screaming at you about how you're ruining everything because you don't want to do it. And everybody's a busy body in the movie. And I don't like the message of the movie. It makes me angry.
Jackie Zebrowski
All right, all right.
Ed Larson
Wow.
Jackie Zebrowski
All right.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. That's the thing. It's literally the message of the. It is not even just the movie. I'm not talking about the casting. Dan Aykroyd's in it. I love him.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
There's a couple other funny little.
Ed Larson
I mean, there's been a lot of shitty movies.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah. He just needs to money. And now that he's, you know, and he's got. He's cheating, so he's spending for two.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Ted A got divorced.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
After like 40 years of marriage, man. Men are down, man.
Jackie Zebrowski
Something broke. That camel's Back.
Henry Zabrowski
I tell you what, it's that Ackroyd. He's got. He got sick of turning it down.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah, that's what it was.
Henry Zabrowski
Look at him now. This just happened.
Jackie Zebrowski
Look at how thick his neck is. It's what everybody.
Ed Larson
They're separating, so maybe they work it out.
Henry Zabrowski
He still visit his wife?
Ed Larson
Legally married.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, they're estranged, which is almost worse than divorce. He says he's going. He always goes to visit his wife Donna's magnificent home he has purchased.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
He said, what are you gonna do, man? You can't keep a. You can't keep one of my boys down. That's a blues brother, man.
Ed Larson
I do love the roids.
Henry Zabrowski
That's my celebration right there, man. The freedom of Dan Aykroyd. He needs to be free, dude. We need to get him out there, man.
Ed Larson
You think it had an. Anything to do with his obsession of the occult and aliens and. Maybe it's a look into your future.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. You have always been in love with the material. Kills love. I've been saying this for years. They were married for 39 years, man. Nobody. He got thirsty. He met some horny ass. Probably some lady with no bra on from Southern California or Sedona, Arizona. They wanted to tell him all about crystals and stuff. And he's like, oh, you mean crystals I can buy? And she's like, no. And she shows him her hard nipple. Yeah.
Ed Larson
Is that what happened?
Henry Zabrowski
I hope so, for his sake.
Jackie Zebrowski
Hell yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
He's never gonna come on the show. We're gonna talk with him.
Ed Larson
I want to talk with him about this. I love him.
Henry Zabrowski
I want to talk with him about how do you. How you're still fucking. Yeah, how you still out there? What's that game?
Ed Larson
Like they fucking glue popsicle sticks to their penis. Jackie, what is your worst Christmas film?
Henry Zabrowski
Really?
Jackie Zebrowski
Depends on what we're talking about. When it comes to worst and what the criteria is.
Henry Zabrowski
What are you talking.
Ed Larson
It took me a while.
Jackie Zebrowski
What I was about to say. Y my. For my specific criteria, it is. I'm going to say any Christmas movie that adds Christ into it. And that is a lot of them. That's the thing.
Henry Zabrowski
Christ isn't. Shouldn't be in the season.
Jackie Zebrowski
You know, I.
Henry Zabrowski
We're past Christ.
Jackie Zebrowski
We're post Christ over it. Like already born. Like we already did it. Like, who gives a shit? It is about buying presents and it's about eating a bunch of fish on Christmas Eve.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Jackie Zebrowski
So last year we did watch the movie Saving Christmas, which is the Kirk Cameron joint.
Henry Zabrowski
Whoa. I Mean.
Ed Larson
Come on. This might be the word. You might win this round.
Jackie Zebrowski
It is. It really is. Like, because you think, like, oh, it's gonna be so bad that, like, it's kind of fun to watch, but it's not. And there's also, I think most movies that have a. Oh, God, I can't think of the word right now. What is it called when everybody stops and starts singing and dancing in the middle of the street?
Henry Zabrowski
It's a musical.
Ed Larson
No, no, no, no, no. There's a flash mob.
Henry Zabrowski
Flash mobs. Flash mobs. Oh, my God.
Jackie Zebrowski
I hate flies.
Henry Zabrowski
I hate flash mobs.
Jackie Zebrowski
Flash mobs.
Ed Larson
Forgot they existed.
Jackie Zebrowski
I love a musical. I hate a fucking flash mob. And.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, I just learned the term diegetic and non diegetic, which is, like, if movements happen within the world of a film or happen outside of the world of the film, and that whether or not people. There's like, a conversation about musicals being diegetic or non diegetic. Like, are the songs in a musical natural to the environment of the musical? Like, are they reality or are they separate from reality? Is it a moment of commentary upon the musical or is the musical within itself?
Ed Larson
Text or text?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, look at this.
Henry Zabrowski
Look. Diegetic versus non diegetic. If you look at this, it says, oh, we puppet. If we can read it. All right. Diegetic sounds that belong in the world of the film. So there's a. Diegetic sound is stuff like you know when they do the thing where you hear a song playing at the top of a movie and you see somebody driving and then they shut off the song and the car and the radio. Radio. That's called diegetic sound. Because that car. That sound is within the world of the movie. Non diegetic is stuff like narrative voiceovers, stuff that is outside of the screen. Sources.
Jackie Zebrowski
Okay, that's very interesting. Well, we all learned something today.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Jackie Zebrowski
And I appreciate that.
Henry Zabrowski
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Henry Zabrowski
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Jackie Zebrowski
Now something that one movie, I dare say that goes up against Saving Christmas for me is a movie I've actually seen multiple times. And every time I watch it, I get more and more enraged.
Ed Larson
Okay?
Jackie Zebrowski
And that is the movie Jack Frost. And that is starry. And I'm not talking about the horrible one. I'm talking about the Michael Keaton one. It's bad and it is.
Ed Larson
It's on my list as well.
Jackie Zebrowski
I will stare at Kelly Preston, do almost anything, just because I like the look of her. Rest in peace. But Jack Frost?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. You look at her core?
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, yeah, man. I'm looking at that. Yeah, man. And she died winking at me. Winking at me. Oh, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
John Travolta's son died. She died.
Jackie Zebrowski
Preston died years ago.
Henry Zabrowski
She was like, right after, like, very close to the sun died. She died of cancer too. Wow. Really, really sad.
Jackie Zebrowski
Rip.
Henry Zabrowski
All right, Rip. Very sad in it. It's the only way to get a Scientology clean.
Ed Larson
Oh, it's like they pressed her on the ground, baby.
Jackie Zebrowski
Shingle bells. Come on.
Ed Larson
It's been four years. I can make the show. Yeah, you can. It's fine.
Henry Zabrowski
It's okay. Now enough time is.
Jackie Zebrowski
I think what makes me the most angry is that Michael Keaton in the movie is in this like, kind of like a Blues Traveler kind of band.
Henry Zabrowski
And that was a good role for him, maybe. Sure.
Jackie Zebrowski
Because I love. I love Michael Keaton. And that's why I've seen this movie six or seven times.
Ed Larson
I've never seen it.
Jackie Zebrowski
Don't.
Ed Larson
I'm not going.
Jackie Zebrowski
I did not watch the other Jack Frost.
Ed Larson
The horror movie.
Jackie Zebrowski
The horror movie.
Ed Larson
And at least then that's with.
Henry Zabrowski
He looks good as with the guitar in his hands. That's for sure.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, don't get. I'm.
Ed Larson
Shannon's in that one, right?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Yes. Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
But this movie made me so upset.
Ed Larson
Shannon Elizabeth, she's. She was just around. Yeah. She's still doing stuff. You know what she was in recently? The remake of Night of the Demons.
Jackie Zebrowski
She played Angela, professional poker player. Really?
Ed Larson
Whoa.
Henry Zabrowski
No way.
Ed Larson
That's cool.
Henry Zabrowski
That's hot.
Ed Larson
I mean, she just got so much. I don't even like gambling. That's really cool.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Yeah, I'll hang out with that. I'd sit there and blow on the chips. I blow on the dice. Copy. Get a little cocktail dress on. Come on, Shannon Elizabeth, you got two first names. Come on. You know who says here, according to Jack Frost. Did you know, Jackie? Three of Frank Zappa's four children are in it. Dweezel.
Ed Larson
Which one?
Henry Zabrowski
Dweezil Ahmet and Moonin. A Moon Unit man.
Ed Larson
Whenever they did Celebrity Jeopardy, I would get so mad because they would never take it seriously.
Henry Zabrowski
No, of course. Moon Unit. What else has Moon Unit done? Oh, he's just. Wow. Just wrote a memoir, Earth to Moon.
Ed Larson
Oh, he. Guess.
Jackie Zebrowski
Well, also, as we were just looking up Jack Frost, I forgot also specifically about The Santa Claus 3, which stars. And. And this pains me to say, I.
Ed Larson
Watched it a couple years ago as a woman. Yeah, it was like Winter.
Jackie Zebrowski
As Jack Frost.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Moon Unit Zappa's a woman?
Jackie Zebrowski
Sure.
Ed Larson
I'm not gonna answer that question.
Jackie Zebrowski
I have no idea.
Henry Zabrowski
It's just a woman. It's just an American actor, singer and author.
Ed Larson
I don't trust Google. Could be incorrect.
Henry Zabrowski
That's a. That looks great.
Ed Larson
Looks like a woman.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yep.
Ed Larson
I'll call it a woman.
Henry Zabrowski
Nice little. He's got a little bandana on there. Calling it. Sorry, I just slid down a Moon Unit Zappa hole.
Jackie Zebrowski
Whoa. Don't tell your wife.
Henry Zabrowski
Come on. With my brain.
Jackie Zebrowski
But I also do like. I am the kind of person, though, that really enjoys, like, a Hallmark. I like a shitty Christmas movie.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, you love Christmas.
Ed Larson
I like a bad Christmas movie as well. I'll watch a bad Christmas movie. The Lindsay Lohan movie that came out last year where she gets amnesia. That was a lot of fun. The one that came out this year.
Jackie Zebrowski
Good year, not good.
Ed Larson
Garbage.
Jackie Zebrowski
And it also was starring Mr. Fitz from Pretty Little Eyes.
Henry Zabrowski
What is the name of this? It's called Falling for Christmas.
Jackie Zebrowski
That was last year's. This year's is our little secret. And our little secret little secret.
Henry Zabrowski
Don't worry about it.
Jackie Zebrowski
But it was fun.
Ed Larson
I enjoyed it.
Henry Zabrowski
It was fun.
Jackie Zebrowski
If you like shitty Christmas movies, yes. But save your time with our little.
Ed Larson
I do like how everyone's rooting for Lindsay Lohan, though.
Jackie Zebrowski
She looks great.
Ed Larson
She looks great. She's killing it seems like she's got her act together.
Henry Zabrowski
She, like, doesn't she. With some guy that's sort of like a human trafficker out of Greece. Right. Doesn't she own for, like, a good thing that she hangs up?
Jackie Zebrowski
I want to share a good life.
Ed Larson
Is that what's happening?
Henry Zabrowski
Something like that. She's just, like, out there. I believe that. Yeah. She's with some gangster and I. I.
Jackie Zebrowski
Am definitely rooting for her, you know? Yeah, sure. She abandoned the Mykonos Beach Club.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, she was in the Mykonos Beach Club. Oh, yeah. She abandoned them. They needed her.
Ed Larson
What's the Mykonos Beach Club?
Henry Zabrowski
She had a reality television show where she was ostensibly whitewashing her life living in Greece. Now she's got a Mykonos Beach Club.
Jackie Zebrowski
And she had, like, an accent for a while that was interesting.
Henry Zabrowski
I think that that's just getting. I feel like more people truly need to ease up on gaining an accent while on vacation.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Because you're just trying to ingratiate yourself with the locals. Lindsay Lohan. Yeah. She's obviously not from Mykonos, but at the same time, when in Mykonos, you gotta assimilate.
Jackie Zebrowski
Now, Eddie, I know you also dislike shitty Christmas movies, but did you happen to check out the Dr. Seuss, the Grinch musical live?
Ed Larson
No, I would never.
Henry Zabrowski
It was wonderful.
Jackie Zebrowski
I dare say it is mighty.
Henry Zabrowski
That is wonderful.
Jackie Zebrowski
Because it's, like, on Broadway or it.
Henry Zabrowski
Was on live television.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, but it's a special.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. I forgot about this, Jackie.
Jackie Zebrowski
I.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Jackie Zebrowski
And I actually would love it if you check because I think it's on Hulu that you can still watch it.
Ed Larson
Behind the Grinch. Is that Tom Swinton?
Jackie Zebrowski
No, it's. Oh, God, what's his fucking name? From Glee.
Henry Zabrowski
Horrible. Matthew Morrison, the lead. The uncharismatic lead teacher man from Glee.
Jackie Zebrowski
He tries to make the Grinch, like, horny.
Ed Larson
No, he's not horny.
Jackie Zebrowski
Very, very uncomfortable.
Ed Larson
The Grinch is specifically not horny.
Jackie Zebrowski
This is the thing. But he does all of this dancing movement like he's trying to be seductive.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Why is he being sexy?
Ed Larson
Oh, and I don't. Like, the person is the dog.
Jackie Zebrowski
Ye. And that's which.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, you have to have a person as a dog. A person. A dog can't sing.
Ed Larson
I would like to. I'd rather have a dog on stage.
Henry Zabrowski
Of course.
Ed Larson
I mean, one of my favorite Christmas carols is the dogs barking. Jingle Bells.
Jackie Zebrowski
Sounds like when the bitch on the shelf. Yeah, man. Go caroling. Yeah. Hell, yeah.
Ed Larson
What do you want me to go caroling?
Jackie Zebrowski
All right, everybody.
Ed Larson
Jingle bells.
Henry Zabrowski
But King of dogs.
Jackie Zebrowski
Growling.
Henry Zabrowski
All right, can I watch it this now? We're just gonna say something here. I'm watching this musical playing. This is why musicals are dead and over. It's because of this moment of Grinch dancing with his dog on live television that they put a lot of money in. A lot of money. A lot of money went into making this a thing because this was live when it was done.
Ed Larson
Do you think they beat him when this was over?
Jackie Zebrowski
I hope they did.
Henry Zabrowski
Have we heard of Matthew Morrison ever since?
Ed Larson
No.
Henry Zabrowski
He looks like a Morrison moron. This is the worst. I have. This is the worst garbage. Look at this. What is he even doing? What is this? He's just kind of trotting back where he's being sexy. He's doing the same moves as Madonna from Like a Virgin.
Jackie Zebrowski
Just close your legs. You're the Grinch.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't want to see your Grinch taint. Yeah.
Ed Larson
No genitals.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah, it's. It's just all of it. He's really just. I'm gonna say, not good in it, but it is kind of fun because it's not that long. So if you're looking for something to have on in the background to just, like, zone in on every couple of minutes being like, what the fuck is happening? Throw it on.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
What's your worst Christmas movie, Eddie? Because you have a hard time. You are. Of all the people I know, in people who watch as many films as you do, you have a truly accepting nature.
Ed Larson
Well, I'm always just impressed that they finished making a movie.
Henry Zabrowski
That's what I talk about whenever we watch something that's extremely bad. The thing that we always remind ourselves, like, as we're watching stuff, it's like, you know, they made a movie.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
What are we doing right. What are we doing right now? We're sitting watching something that they went and put the time and effort in to make. And, yes, it was wasted time, wasted effort, wasted money, but they did it.
Jackie Zebrowski
They have a project at the end.
Henry Zabrowski
They got it done.
Ed Larson
So I was drawn. I was drawn between two, and one of them is a series of films that I can't stand. But before we get into that, I'm gonna say Spirited sucks.
Henry Zabrowski
Spirited is ex. If, like. The only way to really describe it is that it's so corporate. It's so utterly direct.
Ed Larson
And I love Sunita, and I One of the best loves to need a friend. So happy to see her. But like, that movie Blow.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. You know what it is, is that it's the problem. I've noticed this. Like, I was talking about this with my mom recently of. There's no. We. They're. They're having a hard time creating, like, another Christmas classic film.
Ed Larson
Well, the thing is, they used to come out, like, once every three years. A Christmas movie when we were younger. Now there's like 10 a year. And we're also. And we're supposed to like all of them. And the story never changed. Changes. I'm sick of it. Spirited was dog. It was forced. It was rushed. It seemed like. It was, like, slop. The set design was sloppy. It was the whole thing. I haven't seen an apple movie I like, by the way.
Henry Zabrowski
Also, can we. Can I say this? Because we just saw. We saw the. The LA Gay Men's Choir. It was fantastic. And they sang the first. It was candy focused this Christmas.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Right. The first half was from Willy Wonka the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. They. They sang those songs. And those songs are so fun and they're so emotional and emotive and evocative.
Ed Larson
Right.
Henry Zabrowski
Like. And then the second half, they decided to sing three songs from the two songs. The two. It felt like nine songs.
Ed Larson
It did.
Jackie Zebrowski
It did. It did.
Henry Zabrowski
What is with modern musicals? If you get a chance to see the Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles, you should go. They're great.
Jackie Zebrowski
They're amazing.
Ed Larson
They do, like, three big shows a year.
Henry Zabrowski
It's wonderful. But I, like, was so surprised at, like, we are better at ever than. We should be better at ever than any and everything.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But it's so funny when they're like, we can't write a good musical anymore. It feels like. It feels like that type of thing where you are. You know, I wasn't into Hamilton. I'm not into Lin Manuel, blah, blah, blah. I'm not into that guy. I'm not into, like, this. This. That style of musical either. It's just weird to go see a musical that has no. I was like, there's three songs here where you. I couldn't tell you what the chorus was. Yeah. Like, not to be anything. I can't tell. I'm like. And I'm feeling like an old man being here. Being like, am I wrong that this song has no chorus? It has nothing. I'm not walking away humming it. I have no idea what's going on, like, at the end of the fucking. The Original Willy Wonka movie. You know every song, even though you've only heard it once in the movie.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Walking out singing the song.
Ed Larson
Oh, man. Pure Imagination is a gorgeous, wonderful song. Gorgeous.
Henry Zabrowski
It's like Wicked. Wicked's not for me, though. But you like Wicked. Did you see Wicked? You liked it?
Jackie Zebrowski
I enjoyed it very much, but no.
Ed Larson
One told us it was a part one.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes. That is very upsetting. It's very, very bad.
Henry Zabrowski
It's the new tattoo.
Jackie Zebrowski
It's between that and also the amount of movies that pretend like they're not a musical and then you go and see it and they're a musical.
Ed Larson
I just saw Amelia Perez and that happened to me. I didn't know. I saw the preview. It wasn't. I didn't know it was a musical. And I went and it was fucking awful. I left and I went and saw Carrie.
Jackie Zebrowski
Don't lie. During the trailer. I feel like it's like, don't bury the lead, bro. Like, people want to know what they're going to go see.
Ed Larson
Yeah. I couldn't handle it.
Henry Zabrowski
No. Because no one would go. Because people hate musicals because they can't write. Write good musicals anymore. They don't know what they're doing with them. I don't know why. Just hire pop singers to write the songs.
Ed Larson
All the Oscars this year, apparently. And I just like.
Jackie Zebrowski
And you didn't like it.
Ed Larson
I can't hate it more. I couldn't get through 30 minutes.
Henry Zabrowski
This thing's a theater.
Ed Larson
I was in a theater of eight people and six of them were laughing about how bad it was.
Henry Zabrowski
Why? Why don't they hire, like, even though I dislike them, I'm actually really confused as to why. Like, why isn't Ed Sheeran, who is one of my least favorite, favorite artists in the world, but he could write a catchy ass song. Why is he not writing all of the songs for a musical?
Ed Larson
You just doomed us.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm just saying he would write. But unfortunately, as much as I hate all of his songs, they're cut. They're getting right in my head. Right. I know. I know half of his songs for some reason because I've heard them on the radio.
Ed Larson
Guy Groban. What's he doing? He's a singer, though he's not a writer.
Henry Zabrowski
New tech Matthew Morrison also, who's only in two other things since the Grinch.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
So this is what I wanted to say is the thing about Christmas movies and they. I don't hold these as Christmas movies because obviously there's a lot more going on. But I feel like they're jammed down my throat every Christmas and I never like them. I can't like them. I've tried several times. Fuck these Harry Potter movies. Oh, yeah, I am, I just can't, like, I am just sick of it. It's like, this is not a Christmas movie.
Henry Zabrowski
It's not.
Ed Larson
They bring it up for a little while in the middle of the movie and then everyone's calling them Christmas movies.
Henry Zabrowski
Just because people buy.
Ed Larson
Down my throat.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
All requests. Christmas is Harry Potter. And I. He's a piece of. He offed himself.
Henry Zabrowski
Did you just ruin the end of Harry Potter? I, no, I, I, that is just one of those things that they. That's all marketing. It's just marketing.
Ed Larson
They also push Lord of the Rings, which I'm kind of down for because I like something that takes like an entire day.
Henry Zabrowski
But it's not a Christmas movie.
Ed Larson
Yeah, it's not.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what it is? It's a time off from work movie. And I feel like that, I wonder if there are like. Because that, to me, that's different. And I feel like those are. You settle in. Right. Like, I love a time off from work movie. Those are the. That's when I sit and watch Napoleon. That's when I sit and watch something long and, and difficult.
Jackie Zebrowski
But also the Harry Potter movies dropped dirt. Like they were all released during Christmas time. So I feel like a lot of people created like traditions around watching and rewatching them before the next one would drop. Like, I think that that is why it's more like a tradition that people created for themselves.
Ed Larson
Also, you know what happened to me with Harry Potter first movie came out. I'm working at a restaurant called Garfield's. It's basically Fridays. It was in the Tallahassee Mall. I remember Garfield's and Harry Potter, the first Harry Potter movie came out in the mall. The movie theater was across the hall from Garfield's in the mall on Black Friday. And I was. It was one of the worst days of my whole life. And then we ran like a two hour wait. And so people started getting the idea to order to go.
Henry Zabrowski
Garfield's closed that.
Ed Larson
Thank God. They were awful. And but, yeah, but people got the idea to start ordering to go food. And so like the tickets just started coming in and like, and if people were just eating to go food in the middle of the mall and throwing it on the ground and it was a disaster. So I, I think that's where my hatred for Harry Potter comes from. But it's. Yeah, because of the trauma of that day.
Jackie Zebrowski
But I. Oh yeah, I understand that.
Ed Larson
But I do like a butterbeer.
Jackie Zebrowski
Sure.
Henry Zabrowski
I like a butterbeer with bourbon in it.
Ed Larson
Oh well, yeah, well, you got to have to buy the bourbon separate and then, and then when the bartender's not looking, you pour it in there.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Cuz they're not allowed to serve you a spiked butterbeer.
Henry Zabrowski
But it's much better that way.
Ed Larson
Much better that way.
Henry Zabrowski
Much better that way. I actually, I'm kind of. I'm neutral on the, on the Harry Potter thing. Just because I do know that. I don't know, I just, I don't even think about them. I don't think about them during Christmas time. Now I'm trying to re herald within my own own life Gremlins. Because for a long time I left Gremlins alone.
Ed Larson
It might be the best one.
Jackie Zebrowski
So good.
Henry Zabrowski
I left it just because I kind of feel like as a child I over watched it. I watched it so many times and so I hadn't seen it probably in a couple like literally a decade or so.
Ed Larson
Funny.
Henry Zabrowski
And then I sat and watched it probably like two or three weeks ago that I. I really think that it's. It might be one of my favorite Christmas movies. And I know that it's like very stereotypical of me, but also, I mean, it's unbelievable. Yeah, the, the movie itself itself is fantastic. The characters are amazing.
Jackie Zebrowski
Well, that's the thing. And how do you feel about movies that are technically Christmas movies? Because that's why when I was talking about like the criteria earlier that like I've started peppering in Edward Scissorhands in my, in my yearly watch.
Ed Larson
Oh my gosh. It's on my list right now because.
Jackie Zebrowski
It'S such a good movie. But then is it still like. I feel like some people are like, it's not Christmasy enough to be a Christmas movie.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, you go, if you're gonna watch.
Ed Larson
Harry Potter, then that's. The Edward Scissorhands is way more Christmas.
Jackie Zebrowski
Right?
Ed Larson
It's about snow.
Jackie Zebrowski
This is the thing.
Henry Zabrowski
And it's got like. What's this?
Ed Larson
Okay, good.
Jackie Zebrowski
It's on the list.
Ed Larson
Batman Returns, also Lethal Weapon. Fucking awesome. I love watching Lethal Weapon. But the one of them that I always go to that I just want to give a shout out to and I love and I feel like the world shunned this movie and no one talks about it ever. Trapped in Paradise.
Jackie Zebrowski
God, I love that movie.
Henry Zabrowski
I haven't thought of Trapped in Paradise.
Ed Larson
Trapped in Paradise.
Jackie Zebrowski
I showed it to Jeff last year. And I love Trapped In.
Henry Zabrowski
So funny.
Ed Larson
I got a kleptomania.
Henry Zabrowski
I love this movie. John Upon Rew because you rewatch it closer than I watch it. Do they not steal the dynamic of the Home Alone thieves?
Ed Larson
We just getting hurt up on.
Henry Zabrowski
We just rewatched Home Alone and Home Alone 2. And it is kind of funny because Home Alone, you forget why. You know, it's obviously a classic film. John Candy. I forget. Is the sneaker like the best part of the whole movie? Weirdly. But then like Home Alone 2, upon watching, I remember loving it as a kid and then rewatching it as an adult just recently, I was like, oh, the first 45 minutes of the movie is the exact same as home alone one, except he goes to New York.
Ed Larson
And the last 45 minutes as well.
Jackie Zebrowski
I was trying to look up the length.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes, it does the fighting. But it's like the same, though. Yeah, it's the same. It's just the same plaques.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Jackie Zebrowski
Trapped in Paradise.
Henry Zabrowski
Same price, same plot, same pranks.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
Trapped in Paradise. I will say it is an hour and 51 minutes. And it does feel it. That's the thing, is that it needed and that it will be. It's forever. Like the letdown is that it's longer than you remember.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
So it's one of those. But it's the mid-90s. You know what how I feel like it always added, like, way more. Trying to have, like, real moments. And it's like, we didn't need it. We didn't need it. I literally just want to watch Nic Cage, Dana Carvey and Jon Lovitz be them.
Ed Larson
That's all I wanted to do is so fucking funny.
Jackie Zebrowski
Great. So I. What is that woman's name? Cause she is an amazing character out there.
Henry Zabrowski
You know? What you're saying is so hilarious too, because I was just looking this up for some reason I wanted to. To see Dumb and Dumber was almost two hours long. And there was no reason for. Even though it's fantastic. It's just the things that are bad and Dumb and Dumber, all the genuine moment. Well, actually, I'm wrong about Dumb and Dumber because I do love the. I'm sick of being a fucking nobody. Like. Like when he does that, like, weird emotional monologue, that thing was like. You remember that? Like he does that weird out of nowhere where he's just like hyper emotional and real in the apartment before they go on the road trip.
Jackie Zebrowski
But that's the thing. And I feel like Dumb and Dumb is in that same place with Trapped in Paradise, in the same place as like My Blue Heaven.
Henry Zabrowski
When like, Dumb and Dumber is like a classic.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, it's a classic. But I'm saying we watched it because it was on TV all the time. Like, I feel like I watched the first hour of Dumb and Dumber a hundred million times.
Ed Larson
We would just catch 20 minutes of a movie back in the day because it was just randomly on tv. You'd, like you, you know, you see like the middle of a movie 3 million times just because that's what happened.
Henry Zabrowski
I always found it so sad that Dana Carver never really got his movie Star Ascension, that he never really got the project that took off of the like, really took off. Like he just had like, you know, besides Wayne's World. But man, he really did. It's good.
Ed Larson
But it's Wayne's World. He's.
Henry Zabrowski
It is.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah. And Master of Disguise. You forgot.
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Ed Larson
Speaking of trapped in paradise, the ref is very similar. You guys. When's the last time y'all seen the ref?
Henry Zabrowski
I haven't seen the ref at all.
Jackie Zebrowski
In a long time.
Ed Larson
Yeah, it's very. It's around the same time period Dennis Leary, she takes. It's very. It's got a lot of similar themes, like someone, like, kidnaps a family kind of on Christmas. Bad guys learning to be good, like, through the love of Christmas.
Henry Zabrowski
The world. World really was captivated by Dennis Leary for a period of time. And then he just kind of went. He was on that rescue me show for, like, 10 years. I had no idea how long that show was on.
Ed Larson
Dude. They had, like, a compound in New York. I auditioned for that show once, and they had, like, a full floor of a giant building. Yeah, it was wild.
Jackie Zebrowski
You know what movie always makes me think of you, Eddie, At Christmas time. That's the movie mixed nuts, one of my favorites.
Ed Larson
It's always mixing Hotline Christmas movie in Los Angeles. In Los Angeles, I think. Madeline Kahn's last movie, I believe.
Jackie Zebrowski
And I remember watching this just drunk in the middle of the day when we used to live together, and you're just like, m nuts again.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
You guys rewatched mixed nuts a lot.
Ed Larson
I bought it.
Henry Zabrowski
I know you love that movie. That's one of those movies that, like.
Ed Larson
I go 15% on rotten tomatoes. Go 13, go.
Henry Zabrowski
I love you with all my heart, Eddie, but if you rewatch it.
Ed Larson
I watch it every year almost.
Henry Zabrowski
All right, well, I'm glad you like it.
Ed Larson
When's the last time you've seen it?
Henry Zabrowski
The last time I remember seeing a chunk of it, I was just like, oh, wow. Some of this doesn't age duality.
Ed Larson
It's upsetting.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, yeah, it's about a suicide hotline.
Ed Larson
Yeah. It's very upsetting. But also, I mean, Julie Haggerty. I love Julie Hagerty. She's. She's the. The female lead in that movie. She's from Airplane and.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh yeah, she's wonderful.
Ed Larson
Is perfect. It's one of Adam Sandler's first movies.
Henry Zabrowski
Wow. Wow. That's actually very interesting.
Jackie Zebrowski
Juliet Lewis.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Rita Ned plays a trans person trying to deal with. With Christmas. It's one of the first movies to deal with this subject.
Henry Zabrowski
I do think it's interesting. I think it's interesting. I think the subject matter is very interesting. I think it was during a weird period in Steve Martin's career.
Jackie Zebrowski
It was. Yeah, he was making choices, you know.
Henry Zabrowski
Which I appreciated about him because he always made. He made a bunch of weird choices back in the day before he started making all the movies with the. What was that thing where he had like the 19 kids cheaper by the Dozen where he kind of gave up a little bit. You know what I just rewatched. What I know this is kind of a. A hard, right? But it's pretty great. Have you ever seen Rare Exports?
Ed Larson
It's on my list.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Rare Exports.
Ed Larson
I never actually saw it.
Jackie Zebrowski
Lot of hanging dong.
Henry Zabrowski
You will. You will really like Rare Exports.
Ed Larson
You know, I met the director when they were promoting the movie. He came into Poor House Village. Poor House. He came in and he's like, do you mind if we put the poster up? And I was like, go for it, bud. You know, cuz it was playing at the movie theater across the street.
Jackie Zebrowski
It is fun.
Henry Zabrowski
It is a wonderful movie. And it was just 9%. Yeah. It's one of the better horror Christmas horror movies.
Ed Larson
I think it has 76 more percent than mixed nuts. Yes. Is that what we're trying to talk about here?
Henry Zabrowski
I would say. I would say it is that much more of a better film.
Ed Larson
No way. I will die on this hill because it is hard for me to get up the hill.
Henry Zabrowski
I understand. I'm already here.
Jackie Zebrowski
Just let me die.
Henry Zabrowski
You. It was just on the last drive in with Joe Bob Briggs. He just did a whole section on rare exports. It's great, that movie.
Ed Larson
I'll check that out this year.
Henry Zabrowski
Truly.
Ed Larson
Truly A. I might watch it tonight. Actually.
Henry Zabrowski
It's probably top five horror Christmas horrors. That Black Christmas, the Ocean.
Ed Larson
I mean, well now Terrifier 3 is taking the reins.
Henry Zabrowski
Terrifier is taking the range. Thank you, Terrifier three. I want to say thank you again for taking up the cause of Adding to the Christmas horror movie lexicon. That is what you. We need this. Yeah, we needed you.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yep.
Henry Zabrowski
And also, I just saw you floated past a Die Hard. Oh, my God.
Ed Larson
Die Hard, too.
Henry Zabrowski
My. Our mother. Her beloved mother, she was like, oh, the best movie I've seen this year. You've got to see it. Red one, you gotta see.
Jackie Zebrowski
She really wanted us.
Henry Zabrowski
We rented it and we put it on and literally.
Ed Larson
You rented it? It's a Netflix movie.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't know what we. I don't know what it was on. I just clicked on. I just wanted to pay for a Netflix movie. I legitimately just wanted my mom to. To be engaged with something.
Ed Larson
It does have a talking bear.
Henry Zabrowski
I put it on, and as we're sitting and watching it, Natalie leans over to me and she's like, is this what prison is like? Is to be forced to do this? Is this like watching television in a common room? In a jail?
Jackie Zebrowski
At least in this prison, you get a juiced up J.K. simmons. You. I don't want to watch the movie. But at least you know, JK Simmons has got abs and he's taken all kinds of human growth hormones.
Henry Zabrowski
Can I say this about JK Simmons? Dude, calm the down, man. You don't need to be this ripped. It's bad for you at this age. It's extremely bad. You're going to die much earlier old.
Ed Larson
In Oz, you're going to die much.
Henry Zabrowski
Earlier because of this huge. He's definitely juiced. That's not natty, dude.
Jackie Zebrowski
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Henry Zabrowski
That is not. Look at his arms. That is not fucking natural. You need to watch yourself, buddy. It's not about. You got to be careful. Your heart's gonna explode. But it was like, what happened? What happened to Christmas action movies? I thought that was really funny. At the top of Scrooge, you forget, like, we try to watch it. We ended up. We're like, oh, we better gotta make dinner. And we shut off red one very quickly, like 25 minutes in. And then I was like. I sit and think. I was like, oh, Red One is literally, what, the beginning of Scrooge just making fun of?
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes, yes, exactly.
Henry Zabrowski
It's making fun of it. And now we're watching. Now it's real and it's bad. It's extremely bad. But then you think about Die Hard, which is a great example of this. Awesome. You know, like, now it's obviously kind of. Mimi. Everyone's talking about it all the time in terms of, like, being a Christmas film. It's just A great movie. It just happens to take place at Christmas, which is. You want. I just want more of it. I want more of that. I think what was nice about Die Hard, about the Christmas thing, is that the. It's not a Christmas film, but the Christmas part of it adds this emotional weight. Of course, you know, that makes it so that much more. That's much heavier.
Jackie Zebrowski
Speaking of emotional weight, when was.
Ed Larson
I have been getting bigger.
Jackie Zebrowski
I'm glad it is an intervention.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, I got a corset for him.
Jackie Zebrowski
When was the last time you watched the movie Prancer? I have been.
Ed Larson
I would say like a decade ago.
Jackie Zebrowski
I haven't watched it since I was a kid, but I remember specifically being traumatized by this movie.
Ed Larson
I saw it in the theater.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Don't they just shoot a lady's prize reindeer in the head or whatever, something?
Jackie Zebrowski
But I didn't know if I should go and watch it. I, I. Apparently it's magic. Very sad.
Ed Larson
I mean, there's lots of sad stuff.
Henry Zabrowski
Doesn't Prancer get, like, molested or something? No.
Ed Larson
Eaten? No, the. By the way, we had reindeer. We had reindeer recently.
Henry Zabrowski
Delicious.
Ed Larson
It's so good. I'm sure it might be the best meat.
Jackie Zebrowski
I'm sure. I love an elf.
Henry Zabrowski
I ate some reindeer and it pranced out of me into shit.
Jackie Zebrowski
I bet, man. Oh, sometimes it goes down greasy, comes out greasier. But apparently Cloris Leachman is in Prancer. And I love Clor.
Ed Larson
I mean, she's. You know, people take work. You know, Prancer is work.
Jackie Zebrowski
I know Sam Elliott's in it too.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. These are. You know, I remember loving Prancer when I was a kid, crying and then seeing it again, like 10 years ago, and it was just like, this is dog.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah, he does get sold to a butcher. Yeah, he gets sold to a butcher.
Jackie Zebrowski
That's why it's so traumatizing.
Henry Zabrowski
The living fuck.
Jackie Zebrowski
Killed and sold to a butcher. Like, that's like, that's the thing. Or does that make this my favorite Christmas movie? You know what I mean?
Henry Zabrowski
The living and then.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, pagodas in it.
Henry Zabrowski
Understated masterpiece. It's a magical reindeer. How the living does it. Held by the rules of man.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah. Chop it up and eat it. Chop it up and eat it for Christmas.
Henry Zabrowski
Honestly, it would have been cute if they chopped it up, made it into a bust of sausages and then they ate it and they all started floating. They're like, oh, that would be cute. And then Santa comes and rigs up those cannibals up to a sled, and he makes the people pull the sled.
Jackie Zebrowski
Hell yeah, dude.
Henry Zabrowski
Reindeers are free for the week.
Ed Larson
Can I rapid fire some movies at you to close out the show?
Henry Zabrowski
Love this.
Ed Larson
All right. Santa slay. You ever seen it with Goldberg where he plays Santa and he just goes around killing people? Slawberg. It's really bad, but it's. He does kill people.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, actually, can you put that at the top of this? Rob, there's a disclaimer on the top of this video about Santa's slay that just. I wanted to read here real quick. That just said the term happened to the. It's like. What is it? Oh, hi, I'm Scott, and I'm glad you like the Goldberg videos. I upload to the legend as I've received. Recently diagnosed with cancer, which is why I may have the YouTube channel as a tribute to Goldberg to help cheer me up. I put most of my time uploading videos are applying to all you great, amazing supporters. If you could spare any donation, it would be very much appreciated. Thank you. And if. If not, no worries. I hope you enjoy the channel. I will continue to upload videos daily on the road to recovery. Thanks, Scott. If you could spare any donations, it would be much appreciated. And how many years ago is this? Two years ago.
Ed Larson
All right, well, let's find out if he's alive.
Henry Zabrowski
No, I don't want to get. I don't want to get.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah, I don't want to spoil it.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't know what this guy does.
Ed Larson
Oh, he's still got the. Yeah. I don't know. Well, me and my father have been diagnosed.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't know.
Jackie Zebrowski
Discrimination. What are you talking.
Henry Zabrowski
What? Just keep putting up those Goldberg videos, buddy. You never know what's going to come.
Ed Larson
Yeah. Yeah, I think. I think that's great. All Krampus.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. But I've only seen.
Ed Larson
It's not that great.
Henry Zabrowski
It's not as good.
Ed Larson
It should be better.
Jackie Zebrowski
But I like the practical puppets.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Jackie Zebrowski
I like that. A lot of it. Outside of the Gingerbread Men. I like that it's practical. And that does keep me coming back to it.
Henry Zabrowski
I also like the. I like seeing it in theaters. I remember when we saw it in theaters. It was awesome.
Jackie Zebrowski
I enjoyed it.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Hot.
Ed Larson
Frosty. Did you see it yet, Jack?
Jackie Zebrowski
I did.
Ed Larson
Was it good?
Jackie Zebrowski
Well, it was. It really depends on how you feel about the whole idea of, like a baby, child. Adult.
Henry Zabrowski
Adult.
Jackie Zebrowski
And if you want to. That. And I guess like that really, it's like.
Ed Larson
It's like big kind of.
Jackie Zebrowski
Exactly. But it is a snowman turned into a human being. It's a snowman turned into a human being that Lacey Chabert tries to fuck and because she just lost her husband.
Henry Zabrowski
And she's a widow and it's like.
Ed Larson
The hot guy from Schitt's Creek.
Jackie Zebrowski
Schitt's Creek.
Henry Zabrowski
We should show this. We should watch this as a group.
Ed Larson
It's a brand new movie.
Jackie Zebrowski
I even dare.
Henry Zabrowski
I dare say you called him the hot guy from Schitt's Creek. He's just got.
Jackie Zebrowski
He's one of the hot beard. He's. He's a veterinarian.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, but he's just got. He's got way more shredded recently.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
He wasn't like that on Schitt's Creek.
Jackie Zebrowski
If you're supposed to be hot Frosty, I think you're supposed to look like that. Unfortunately for some people. But it is. It's how you depend on like. I also really enjoyed poor things but I know a lot of people are like baby lady, you a baby lady.
Henry Zabrowski
It was a great movie. Correct.
Jackie Zebrowski
So that's why I enjoy Hot Frosty. But I understand that some people. People were very upset about it so.
Henry Zabrowski
Because he's a frost.
Ed Larson
Because he's an idiot.
Jackie Zebrowski
He's a baby man.
Henry Zabrowski
No, he's a snowman.
Ed Larson
If he was a not a human.
Henry Zabrowski
Listen, if he had down syndrome it'd be different.
Jackie Zebrowski
That was my biggest issue.
Henry Zabrowski
Think about this. If he frosted because how offensive would that have been? If a snowman turned into a Down syndrome adult, how mad would everybody be then? And then she tries to him. Everybody be super angry.
Ed Larson
Oh, don't be fun as a movie that's just like a flashlight that comes to life and it's like filled me. Fill me up.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Please ask me a question about myself. My wants, my needs.
Jackie Zebrowski
It should remain a fleshlight then as someone that is a self described monster fucker. I was upset because I didn't realize that the snowman turned into a human being. I thought she was going to fuck a snowman. And that's what I wanted to watch.
Henry Zabrowski
They're not ready, Jackie.
Jackie Zebrowski
I want to watch it.
Ed Larson
All right. Eastern promises.
Henry Zabrowski
Very good. That's an Eastern promises.
Ed Larson
It takes place during Christmas. What? Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
I mean a naked fight on Christmas is what I mean.
Henry Zabrowski
I should watch this on Christmas.
Ed Larson
Christmas day.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
No. Easter promises has a bunch of Christmas.
Henry Zabrowski
I gotta re watch this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ed Larson
I love Easter.
Jackie Zebrowski
Can we remember the naked fight? That's all I remember.
Ed Larson
I mean, the whole movie's great. It starts off with a brutal murder.
Jackie Zebrowski
And I love Nico Morton.
Ed Larson
All right, we're moving. Family Stone. I know you love it. Jackie might be my favorite. That's why I like it.
Henry Zabrowski
I know. I'm just not into sad. I don't like sad. I don't like to feel sad. I'm already sad.
Ed Larson
All right. People go both ways on this movie. Love.
Jackie Zebrowski
Actually, you know, I think I hate it more than anything else. I think I have decided that I finally, officially, truly, very much hate love. Actually, I just found out. Keira Knightley, 17 in the movie.
Ed Larson
Whoa.
Jackie Zebrowski
In real life. In real life, she's 17.
Ed Larson
I did not know.
Jackie Zebrowski
And she did not want to do the cue card scene. She thought that it was very uncomfortable. And she's a 17 year old. And so apparently they had to shoot it multiple times because she was so visibly upset while she was doing it, she couldn't act her way through it.
Henry Zabrowski
Unfortunately, though, sometimes, I mean, I guess that's what happens. But she was a child, 17, and.
Jackie Zebrowski
She'S supposed to be like married in it and everything. It's just all.
Ed Larson
It is weird old days.
Jackie Zebrowski
And then, of course, everybody with the shop.
Ed Larson
I like to watch Liam Mason cry.
Jackie Zebrowski
Of course, and also Emma Thompson cry. I love to watch anybody be sad on Christmas.
Henry Zabrowski
I want to go to his house and make him cry.
Jackie Zebrowski
I'm sure he's crying on Christmas.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm sure he's back.
Ed Larson
He banging now.
Henry Zabrowski
He's got a new banging.
Ed Larson
Pamela Anderson.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, dude.
Jackie Zebrowski
No makeup. Pam Anderson banging Liam Neeson.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, dude. He is riding that.
Ed Larson
Because they're meant to make the Gun remake together.
Henry Zabrowski
Madly in love with Pamela Anderson. Yes. God, that's a happy ending.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, I love that.
Henry Zabrowski
Just show great, guys.
Ed Larson
Isn't that the best connection?
Jackie Zebrowski
Yes, it is.
Henry Zabrowski
And it just shows you that anything's possible as long as you're almost 7. 7ft tall. Rich, famous movie, got a great brogue. That's all you need to do is be Irish.
Jackie Zebrowski
That's all.
Henry Zabrowski
Handsome rich.
Jackie Zebrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Holdovers. Wonderful film.
Jackie Zebrowski
Really enjoyed it.
Henry Zabrowski
I like that movie.
Ed Larson
Is really good. And I gotta say, if we forgot one perfect Christmas film, I feel like it's a good one to close out with. It's a little film called how to Ruin the Holidays. And apparently how to Ruin the Holidays.
Henry Zabrowski
Is a new Christmas classic.
Ed Larson
Is to watch. Watch the film is the best way to ruin the holiday.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh.
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, I know I haven't. I. I love you, Henry, but I haven't also watched it yet.
Henry Zabrowski
You both are ignorant of my work.
Jackie Zebrowski
Haven't watched it.
Ed Larson
I went to the theater, saw it. Yeah, I went. I went. I booed. It was great.
Henry Zabrowski
Thank you. But I did feel that it was. It was a pretty good film. It was pretty good. This film was fine.
Jackie Zebrowski
You're like Robert De Niro and Cape Fear. Like, that's.
Ed Larson
That's my friend.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was the last movie I was in, so.
Ed Larson
There we go.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, you guys go. Go rent that, huh? You just go, right? How to ruin the holidays. Because that'll help. That'll really help. The dividends. Not for me. I don't make any money off of it. But it would.
Jackie Zebrowski
Colin Mockery needs it. Come on, guys.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't think he makes money off, but he was.
Ed Larson
He was. He. I liked seeing him in a big role.
Henry Zabrowski
He's great, too. And also, he's extremely nice. He's a great guy.
Jackie Zebrowski
You're the bad boy neighbor. You're the MM. @ Walsh of Christmas with the crank.
Henry Zabrowski
I am?
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. I'm the mean.
Ed Larson
Yep.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm the mean neighbor. That's why they hired me.
Jackie Zebrowski
Sometimes just being yourself, it goes a long way.
Henry Zabrowski
It really does.
Ed Larson
And then did you have to shoot, like, across the. Like, in a different, like, house because you had Covid?
Henry Zabrowski
No, I had. I found out I had Covid on set. This was many years in 2021. The first time I had had Covid and I did not know that I was sick. I ticked a rapid test and a delong. The big test, remember?
Jackie Zebrowski
Oh, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And then I. I tested POS negative on the rapid test. I shot a day, but then I started not feeling very good. And then it wasn't until the next day that it turned out I tested positive for Covid. But I didn't give it to anybody else, man. I gave it because I was wearing those dog combs.
Jackie Zebrowski
Gave it to a lot of people. When I did the L word, I didn't realize I had Covid. And I just wasn't feeling good but wasn't testing positive. And they tested me twice on set, and I wasn't testing positive. And then turns out I found out later on, gave a bunch of people. Well, sorry.
Ed Larson
At least you gave them something for Christmas. Yeah.
Jackie Zebrowski
Come on.
Henry Zabrowski
Not be people. Don't do anything.
Jackie Zebrowski
Come on.
Ed Larson
Thank you so much. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Happy holiday.
Jackie Zebrowski
Enjoy.
Ed Larson
We love you guys. Thank you for listening to the show. I hope you're having a great time. And when you're at home with your family, remember, you don't have to be nice all the time.
Henry Zabrowski
You really don't. And honestly, sometimes those kind of got to go do their own thing and you let them go do their own thing. But you know, you, you're not responsible for everybody's activities. They're in the holiday.
Ed Larson
Yes. Amen.
Jackie Zebrowski
And it's gonna be over soon.
Ed Larson
Take some personal time and forget. Remember to take a walk, smoke somewhat.
Henry Zabrowski
Yep. Take a drink in the garage. Clean your guns. Go and clean your guns.
Ed Larson
And if you're looking for any last minute Christmas gifts and you live in the Atlanta area, last podcast on the left is gonna be doing a show with Coca Cola Roxy in January 11th. So please come and check that out. We got shows in Dallas, Toronto, Detroit and Nashville next year both. We're gonna book some more more soon. But more importantly, watch good put my. My favorite show on the network.
Jackie Zebrowski
Thank you so much.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
So good. It's unbelievable. Spend time watching Good put. Really freak out the squares with this show. It's a wonderful thing.
Jackie Zebrowski
Hell yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Good work, Eddie.
Ed Larson
Happy holidays.
Henry Zabrowski
Happy holidays.
Ed Larson
Love you all.
Henry Zabrowski
Don't let the new year hit you in the ass, huh?
Ed Larson
Yeah, man. Yeah. Jerk off.
Henry Zabrowski
Yep. Slip mom dick D mommy out of the room. All right, give me patreon sp.com jerk off. Don't forget.
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Podcast Summary: Last Podcast On The Left – Side Stories: Christmas Movie Stories
Release Date: December 25, 2024
Hosts: Henry Zabrowski, Ed Larson, Jackie Zebrowski
Produced by: The Last Podcast Network
In the December 25, 2024 episode of Last Podcast on the Left, hosts Henry Zabrowski, Ed Larson, and Jackie Zebrowski delve into the world of Christmas movies. Transitioning from their usual horror and side stories, the trio offers a candid and humorous exploration of their favorite and least favorite Christmas films, sharing personal anecdotes and strong opinions throughout the discussion.
Scrooged vs. Muppet Christmas Carol
The conversation begins with a passionate debate between Henry and Ed about classic Christmas films. Henry places Scrooged among his top five Christmas movies, praising Bill Murray's heartfelt ending monologue despite his personal reservations about the actor.
Jackie counters by highlighting Muppet Christmas Carol as superior to Scrooged, especially when including the song "When Love is Gone," which she believes is essential to the film's emotional impact.
The hosts agree that both films, despite their differences, hold a special place in their holiday viewing traditions.
Christmas with the Cranks
Henry vehemently criticizes Christmas with the Cranks, citing its message of conformity and lack of genuine holiday spirit. He expresses frustration with the film's portrayal of resisting family traditions.
Saving Christmas and Jack Frost
Jackie joins in by denouncing Saving Christmas and Michael Keaton's Jack Frost, the latter of which she finds particularly frustrating due to its handling of sensitive subjects and character development.
The hosts touch upon the challenges modern Christmas movies face in finding their footing, often becoming repetitive or failing to capture the magic of classics like Gremlins. They lament the oversaturation of Christmas-themed films in recent years, making it harder to establish new classics.
Dashed Hopes for New Classics
Henry reflects on the difficulty of creating new Christmas classics that resonate emotionally without becoming overworked or losing their intended charm.
Traumatic Viewing Experiences
Ed shares a particularly negative experience associated with watching the first Harry Potter movie during his time working at Garfield's in a mall. The chaos and long waits left a lasting impression, contributing to his aversion to the series as a Christmas staple.
Rediscovering Gremlins
Henry discusses his renewed appreciation for Gremlins after distancing himself from it for a decade, now considering it one of his favorite Christmas movies due to its blend of horror and holiday themes.
Support for Unique and Cult Favorites
The hosts advocate for exploring a variety of Christmas movies beyond mainstream offerings. They recommend titles like Rare Exports and Black Christmas for their unique takes on holiday horror.
Appreciation for Classic Comedies
Despite their critiques, the hosts also acknowledge and appreciate classic Christmas comedies like Mixed Nuts and Family Stone, albeit with reservations about certain aspects.
Critique of Contemporary Musicals
The conversation shifts to the incorporation of musical elements in modern Christmas films, with the hosts expressing skepticism about the effectiveness of flash mobs and pop singers writing songs for musicals.
Appreciation for Gay Men's Choir Performances
Contrasting their critiques, Henry praises the Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles for their emotive and powerful performances, emphasizing the impact of quality musical arrangements.
Balancing Tradition and Personal Preference
As the episode concludes, the hosts reflect on the balance between adhering to traditional Christmas movie choices and exploring personal preferences. They encourage listeners to embrace what resonates with them while acknowledging the diversity of holiday film experiences.
Recommendations and Future Episodes
The hosts hint at upcoming episodes and continue to recommend a mix of classic and unconventional Christmas movies, fostering a space for honest and unfiltered discussions about holiday cinema.
This episode of Last Podcast on the Left offers an engaging and honest exploration of Christmas movies through the eyes of Henry, Ed, and Jackie. Their lively debate, personal stories, and unabashed opinions provide listeners with a multifaceted perspective on holiday cinema, encouraging both reflection and laughter during the festive season.