
Henry & Eddie bring you this week's biggest stories and true crime news - The Epstein Files: The Neverending Story - Pam Bondi releases "all of the files" as sweeping cover-up continues, The Nancy Guthrie hostage abduction situation reaches third week with no signs of negotiation, Cheerleader Mom commits murder-suicide in Vegas over mean-girl squabble, a Saskatchewan man fights off feral moose in battle to protect mother, Despicable Listener E-Mails, and MORE!
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Eddie
I'm Oliver.
Ciara
I'm Ciara. Lies.
Henry
So do you like secrets?
Ciara
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Henry
What do you got here?
Eddie
Body in the bathtub.
Ciara
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Eddie
Not if I get you first.
Henry
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Eddie
There's no place to escape to. This is the lost on the left side stories.
Henry
That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes.
Eddie
What I'm curious about is, is that just lay Maxwell in prison?
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
You think so?
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
Because why her nose get all fat? Do you think someone's just hitting her or her? Or do you think she's jamming it in a bunch of pussies?
Henry
Believe me, I want her to be dead just as much as Jeffrey Epstein did. Just as much as Donald Trump wants.
Eddie
I think she's hanging out somewhere. She's probably chilling. I own islands.
Henry
I believe that. That absolutely was just Lane Maxwell. It's just. You know what it is so steeped and deep down.
Eddie
Are you ready for this? I plead the fifth.
Henry
Whoa. Is that her?
Eddie
Anyone can do it. I got a fat face, but she.
Henry
Just looks like shit. I think that that's what people understand. Yeah, she's in like a lesser security prison than she was.
Eddie
But she's not getting her vitamins.
Henry
She's not getting her very, very high end skin treatments.
Eddie
Oh yeah.
Henry
She's not getting the best possible food attainable that she could possibly get. Like she was used to the little.
Eddie
Boy foreskins that they, that they mash.
Henry
Up and sell and you put up in your. You get like little bags. Get rid of the little bags under your eyes. And then she also doesn't. She was a bad camera, it was a bad lens. She was sat back in the chair. Like you'd be surprised how often you. When you, when you're supposed to take pictures professionally, what they say is put your head on a shelf. Yes. Oh, no.
Eddie
Lean forward A little bit.
Henry
Put your head on your shelf. So she sat back. She looks like. Because she's given herself the double chin thing like hot girls do on Tick Tock to pretend to be funny.
Eddie
See, but like you got her nose. The nose is different.
Henry
I think it's just. She's got a big. She's got a.
Eddie
Her has grown.
Henry
I think it's. You grow in age and you'd be surprised what happens when I. It's the angle of the picture.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah.
Henry
No, just Lane is.
Eddie
I know.
Henry
Very safe.
Eddie
Noses keep growing and their ears keep growing.
Henry
Well, after they're dead.
Eddie
Yeah. Well, no, when they're. When you're alive, your nose and ears never stop growing. That's.
Henry
Why do you.
Eddie
How do you explain. Like Jimmy Duranty.
Henry
I don't think women are any different than men necessarily biologically in that way.
Eddie
Side stories lpotlmail.com do women's noses continue to grow as they get older like men?
Henry
And explain to us how that's also some very obscure turf thing that we have stumbled upon and we're making people angry. Welcome to side Stories.
Eddie
How you doing, everybody?
Henry
My name is Henry Zabrowski. I'm here with Ed Larson.
Eddie
Hello.
Henry
We were describing before the show the really appropriate way to do this show and the only way you're properly doing any form of comedy or radio is that half the people that listen need to be engaged because they hate you.
Eddie
That's right. Then we're looking at you RAV4 owners, you fucking pussies.
Henry
You waste of space cowards. And I will say, last week on side Stories, I called this last week. I knew it was going to happen. I called it. We even mentioned circumcision. We kind of even talked about it in a semi joking fashion. I received so many impassioned emails from everybody, from everybody from all walks of life. Walks of life. I was talking about last week about the blood stained men that I started to see on Instagram, about the. The men walking around. They have bloody handprints on their.
Eddie
It's objectively funny to me and Henry.
Henry
Yes.
Eddie
I don't know what to do about it. There's men in white with red blood prints, handprints on their junk.
Henry
I'm allergic.
Eddie
That makes me laugh comedically.
Henry
I am allergic to sincerity. There's really nothing I can do about it. I wish that I was different. I wish I could feel these feelings. Just don't. Right. So when I see things that are hyper sincere, they make me laugh. So when you guys send, which I really appreciate I feel like I learned.
Eddie
A little bit, to be honest with you.
Henry
I know.
Eddie
Just a little bit off the top.
Henry
It just seems these people that were not circumcised, they really are a little extra sensitive about this topic. Oh.
Eddie
So I.
Henry
But I totally understand. I. I did learn a lot because partially, it's true. If I had a son.
Eddie
Mm.
Henry
I wouldn't know what to do. I do understand. It's a clip, the fucker. It's. I. I would be torn. I would be torn because I know it's a barbaric practice. I know it's old as time. I know that there's no real specific even purpose for it anymore.
Eddie
Barbaric is doing it when you're 40.
Henry
I mean, kind of suck if you choose.
Eddie
You have to do memories when you're that age. Fudgeing.
Henry
Beat me, dude. If you get circumcised, optionally, you're something fucking upsettingly wrong with you. But I. It could be a religious thing. I don't fucking know. All I'm just saying is I understand. I would be confused because I would not like to harm my theoretical son. I also would not know how to tell my theoretical son how to care for an uncircumcised penis. So I wouldn't know quite what to do. But I do. I hear you. It is not. We're not just making fun of you. Yes.
Eddie
I mean, also, I think the world would be a better place if men were less, like, sensitive about their penises. Well, let's just say a lot of people have died because they've made fun of penises. Yes. And I think that penises should just be allowed to be made fun of.
Henry
I'm sorry, I just.
Eddie
I think the world would be a better place if everyone just take that joke.
Henry
It's a part of a penis having responsibility. It's much like being a police officer. You have to understand the penis is a dangerous weapon. Right. And so you have to have a bit of sense of humor about it. Okay. Because. Yeah, I agree. I read under Saturn's shadow, I understand there are actual men's issues. And I read about this. There's three W. So they talk about a men's issues, right? It is work, worry, and war. One is men are supposed to go die in war. When they don't. Where. Where does all that excess violent energy go to?
Eddie
99.
Henry
Right. It goes into something else. It turns into competition. Bobsledding. You think bobsledding wouldn't come out of. Not out of toxic masculinity. It was a fun way to enjoy snow.
Eddie
I'll tell you what, you don't circumcise your bobsled, you ain't winning.
Henry
Exactly. You. You got to thin that out. Right. Then there's. There's work, which is that men are supposed to work, provide money, and then die.
Eddie
I agree.
Henry
Right. That's a bully. And then that men are supposed to. So these are the issues. Men have issues. Right. And then there's worry, which is the concept that I find really, really funny. Which is, yes, men own everything. But isn't that stressful?
Eddie
Here's the thing. I don't think about the worry thing. I don't think men worry like women worry. Well, I think women worry way more than men.
Henry
It just. So we're just talking about perennial, quote unquote, men's issues. And like, so I understand when people in the circumcision and then the anti circumcision world, they're trying to defend the little boys that are viewed sometimes by society as expendable.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
And, you know, just. There's a lot of us.
Eddie
There was one guy because we made fun of them for. Then make fun. We. We said like, oh, you got to clean it. And it's a lot of maintenance. And this guy was just like, hey, you clean it. I'm good every day. And I was like, that's the problem. Full honesty. I don't shower every day. So, you know, not showering every day. I, you know, I can't be having to, you know, to deal with that.
Henry
You see, I'll do a whores bath every once in a while.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
So you do something every day. Well, if I do deodorant and brush my teeth. For sure. Yes. That.
Henry
Yeah. It's a minimum, Eddie. Yes, I know that if my keep. Right. If my wife is going to engage with my balls.
Eddie
Oh, I'm cleaning them.
Henry
Yeah. Even I just got a wipe or something.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry
Even if it's just a wet towel.
Eddie
For sure. For sure.
Henry
Sometimes I just sit on a pair of damp shorts.
Eddie
I don't think that's making it better.
Henry
No, it's making them wet and that means clean. All right, I think we've done enough here. I think we've just made everybody angry enough.
Eddie
Just very happy. You got your foreskins. I'm proud of you. Please keep them. And I'm in the ladies who love it. Good on you.
Henry
Love everybody that loves it. Hate everybody that hates it.
Eddie
I don't need more sensitivity. I don't need Help coming.
Henry
No, I have anything.
Eddie
I need resistance.
Henry
If someone could maybe take some more off of mine. I don't need the magical new what they. What I keep seeing. Nuanced pleasure. All right? I don't even need it.
Eddie
I don't have time.
Henry
I don't have time for nuanced pleasure, all right? I got to please my wife.
Eddie
Yeah. Maybe what people could do is if we get a bunch of these foreskins together, we could tie them together and maybe use them as, like, a life jacket or a raft, you know, a. Like a.
Henry
Like a life raft to help, like, the little Ilion Gonzalez's of the world.
Eddie
Yeah. You know, if, like, you ever had to, like, you know, like if you were ever on a cruise ship and, like, it was going down and you're like, oh, don't worry. I brought my own floaties. And it's just a bunch of. And it's just a bunch of foreskins.
Henry
And you know what? That would be super helpful to have on what? Crime Wave at Sea. Oh, yeah. If you want to join us over at the Royal Caribbean, we are going to be at next year's Crime wave at sea, February 2027. Crime wave at sea 2.0.
Eddie
That's right.
Henry
We are going to be sailing from incredible Fort Lauderdale.
Eddie
Nothing bad has ever happened there.
Henry
Not once.
Eddie
Honestly. This last time we came back on Crime Wave, the ship next to us had a murder.
Henry
Yes. But it was. Guess what?
Eddie
What?
Henry
Carnival.
Eddie
Yeah. We all know what happens over there.
Henry
Carnival's the bad one. Go to Crime. Go to crime wave@c.com left to buy your tickets to see us if you came. Last year, it was the most fun we had. And again, we were talking. Remember how much shit we talked? We had no idea what it was going to be like. Truly one of the funnest weeks of my life. And getting to meet everybody on the road was so fun. And every. Everybody had a blast. And this time, we're going to be bringing even more heat. It's a bigger boat.
Eddie
It is a bigger boat.
Henry
We're going crazy.
Eddie
Yeah, man.
Henry
I'm gonna fish. And also, truly, the best part about this cruise, like, that's what.
Eddie
I'm gonna go fishing at the buffet.
Henry
Oh, yeah. It's funny. That's funny.
Eddie
It's cute.
Henry
We could go. You know what's nice about these tickets? You can pay for them for the entire year.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
So you can buy them in installments. Truly, I cannot. Like, of all of our live shows, I've never experienced anything like that. And I can't wait to do it again.
Eddie
It is a little expensive, but it's your vacation, you know, it's your money. It's. It's all your food, your lodging. I was grilling people the who there. I was like, is this worth it to you? Because I was like feeling guilty and.
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
And every one of them was like, this is amazing. I'm having the best time.
Henry
Also, I will say, I do believe we will have a face reveal of the dude from Case File. Oh yeah, I believe that's the big thing on this one is that that the, the here formation like is just a voice.
Eddie
What if I want to see his ass?
Henry
Well, that's what we get to do.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
Cuz you know why? Because men make other men do things.
Eddie
That's right. Just show them your ass.
Henry
Oh, your body, my ass.
Eddie
That's what I'm talking about.
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Henry
Just so you know, we went, as we were going through this week's information, I clicked over and I looked at Royal Caribbean over on the Epstein files. And we don't need to talk about what happened there, but let's see what happens when we looked at Caribbean.
Eddie
Oh, just regular.
Henry
Just regular Caribbean. Look what happened when we looked up Carnival Cruise.
Eddie
Oh yeah, Carnival. It was disgusting. They had a. They had a great time over there. I deleted the email.
Henry
Okay, good, good, good.
Eddie
Yes, I deleted the email. Yes, the carnival was on there way more than World Carib.
Henry
Are we already. Are we in the updates?
Eddie
We're in the updates. Let's hit it.
Henry
Island Adventure. Heck yeah.
Eddie
It's Jeffrey time, man.
Henry
I promise you we're going to talk about other stories this week too, but.
Eddie
Yes, I know, but like I had the realization this week that I had been past his island multiple times in the 90s because I used to go to St. Thomas because every trip when I was a kid was a cruise.
Henry
Oh yes.
Eddie
And so like. Because I was in South Florida and we get like discounts and shit. My dad loved the gamble, so I'd always go. And so we would go to St. Thomas regularly. And then every time, I don't know why my dad loved going to St. John. And so we would take a boat from St. Thomas to St. John and then in the. On the way on that boat, every time the guy would be like, and there's little St. James island, you know, like every single time. Wow. Like I was just driving by there as a kid and everything was going on. This is just. I know I. Not to make it about myself, but.
Henry
I just wonder if he'd already purchased the island at that point. I don't know whether or not Jeffrey was aboard.
Eddie
I'd say it was the early 90s. So there might be. There might be a chance that wasn't his island at that point.
Henry
Oh yes. And now we also see there was a. Tyler Oliviera went and he broke onto the island.
Eddie
I watched this video. It was. It was fun.
Henry
It is. It's interesting. It's a beautiful island, beautiful piece. See the place up close. Well, you know, it's also very.
Eddie
People living there.
Henry
It's extremely cryptic. It is own. There are people walking around. We do believe they were sending a.
Eddie
Messages that night like we know you were here and stuff like that.
Henry
The person that I believe that is currently on the the on it is Katrina Shuliak. That I believe is his former girlfriend. Karina Schuliac Epstein's last girlfriend. The dentist that he worked with is currently living on the island.
Eddie
Who's the guy who owns it now? Some weird. I was looking him up and I went on a rabbit hole trying to get through him. And he's like one of those billionaires that's like scrubbed himself from the Internet, you know.
Henry
He's one of those entrepreneur. Stephen Deckhoff.
Eddie
Stephen Deckhoff, that's his name? Yeah, yeah, Steven Deckhoff. I don't know what the fuck he's doing down there. He wants to put a resort.
Henry
He's straight up saying he's going to put a resort there. Which kind of. I mean, you know, it makes sense. It's better than a rape factory. I guess it depends on what you do there when you pay the resort fees.
Eddie
I mean the thing is like who the fuck wants to stay there?
Henry
Other former rapists that Are looking to remember their wonderful time.
Eddie
There's so many islands in the Caribbean. Why do you want to go to the one where people would just fuck children a bunch.
Henry
Genuine. Genuine. You want to know genuinely why? I think it's because of the way it was for it to travel to. It is extremely exclusive. Yes. There's a way to. You can build all these little puddle jumpers. The way he got people to the island, which is you just. You fly to St. Barts, you fly to Mexico City, you fly to all these other places and you can very easily drop in.
Eddie
Dude, the fucking kid that we were just talking about took a jet ski.
Henry
Yeah. I mean, hey, you know, it depends on how fucking chill you are, dude. Depends on how X Games you are. All right, so let's go. I just very briefly so I deep into research. Everybody in the country that has a set of balls or tits right now is Reachers researching the Epstein.
Eddie
We're all experts.
Henry
Everybody is up into it. I met the lovely lead singer of Sepultura over the weekend and me and him had a wonderful giggle, which is so funny. He's the nicest man I've ever met. Derek Green, extremely nice man. Managed to make it for about an hour before we started talking about it. It was nice to really have the break to just get to know another human being. But he wasn't ready to hear about the cannibalism. Now, one of the big videos.
Eddie
Sepultura wasn't ready to hear about the cannibal course.
Henry
I happen to notice that that's when he called his Uber was when I was describing about how Jeffrey Epstein was rumored to be eating human jerky. And I was complaining to Derek about how the problem is, is that.
Eddie
Well, it's not human jerky. I'm sorry to interrupt you. It's not human jerky. They just refer to as jerky, apparently.
Henry
Well, let's see if that. But if you're depending if you're jerky, it is the worst meat to jerky. Because human meat is most compared to pork meat, which I also find to be the worst jerky meat besides turkey. Turkey jerky and pork jerky. By far the worst jerkies.
Eddie
I like salmon jerky.
Henry
I'm fine.
Eddie
I love salmon jerky.
Henry
I think you're mostly. You're part Kodiak. Yeah, that's what that means. Right. So the. But I was saying to Derek, my main issue is that if humans are pork, then we should be treating it like pork. And essentially you need to braise it.
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
And then he Called us Uber. Yeah, yeah, but the. But again.
Eddie
Or in Epstein's case, raise it to be an adult.
Henry
Then you can really farm.
Eddie
You can see, I think jerky was just a code word. You know why I think it was just a code word is because they said it was in the freezer.
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
And anyone who puts jerky in the.
Henry
Freezer is a real jerk. Worse. Yeah.
Eddie
Than a child molester.
Henry
Yeah, that's right. Honestly, I'm with Eddie on that. What's wrong with you?
Eddie
If you got jerky in your freezer, you are not only doing it wrong, your teeth are gone.
Henry
He also. Yes, and he also compared the intestine, the taste of the bellies of the, in the, the intestines and the meat of babies to be like cream cheese. Which is also compared to a 1800s document that was written in France by a guy that ate human flesh.
Eddie
Oh, okay.
Henry
And he wrote all of these things, so I actually don't know what he got. And from actual experience or literally what he read in a Jean Genet novel.
Eddie
He seems to be a fan of awful science as a whole.
Henry
Jeffrey Epstein, One of the things that was revealed in this week's dump, which I thought was really interesting is the fact that he called his New Mexico ranch his science center.
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
We know that he was heavily involved in eugenics process. Like all of these things. He was very interested in human eugenics, the eugenics programs. One of the interesting things that came out this week in the last dump, which now Pam, but Yandy has officially said is over.
Eddie
Oh yeah, thank you.
Henry
We're now done. So she said it's complete because she.
Eddie
Done such a great job over the course of her career dealing with the.
Henry
Epstein crisis, utterly covering up, aiding and embedding it, being a very much a center of it.
Eddie
And the Attorney General for Florida during his main years of being a child trafficker, she's either in on it or a fucking idiot.
Henry
Yeah, I think, and I, I, I think that they don't need to be mutually exclusive.
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
So this is the last week as we were covering this, there was a hearing going on with Pam Biondi. Right. And with various people represented involved with this, this investigation. And the thing that came out was that Ro Khanna, a Democrat rep, he came out and he revealed six men that he immediately was, was in the unredacted files that he got to see on the four computers that they're allowed to have access to, which apparently using this is the statistics they've said with just the files that have already been Dumped with only the computers that they have access to. It would take seven and a half years to go through every single file in the Epstein file.
Eddie
It's insane how long you can really spend doing this shit.
Henry
And also Ro Khanna immediately noticed, which I noticed even last night. I was going through various documents because that's how I relax. And I was noticing there would be the same document uploaded three or four times. Differently redacted each time. Yes. Right. So each one was left out. So you start to. Actually a lot of times if you just read the same document in four different places, you get the whole fucking document. So that's kind of where I was doing for a while. But Ro Khanna was basically saying, what in the living fuck is happening here? Yeah, this thing's a mess. The first thing I see though are these lists of conspirators that will be part of a theoretical lawsuit and the theoretical investigation. And these were the names he read. And the reason why I want to reread them is that they were coming out last week. It was a big surprise. But we have no idea what this means yet.
Eddie
Yeah, you heard us read the names in real time. I didn't have time to research them. It's crazy.
Henry
So right now the big bad guys are les Wexner.
Eddie
Right.
Henry
88 year old. He, we now he's. He goes off. He is the guy that did Victoria's Secret, Amber, Gromy and Fitch. He's apparently the. The center of Jeffrey Epstein's original. Big amount of money that kicked off the whole thing. Jeffrey Epstein got power of attorney for him. Les Wexner goes on to say that he was manipulated by Jeffrey Epstein. You know how the easy manipulator these billionaires are.
Eddie
Oh, yes.
Henry
So he was manipulated by Jeffre Epstein, probably because Jeffrey Epstein was him. I think that that's one of those. Because Jeffrey Epstein, anybody that. That moved, if it got him through.
Eddie
Something, I believe it.
Henry
Right. And so that's. That's number. Bad guy, number one. Sultan Ahmed bin Sulaim Sulayem. So this is the guy that. He's from DP World Multinational. So this is what's interesting. Ports and logistics and enterprise. That's what this guy runs. So his thing is he's in shipping and exports out of Dubai. Yes. So he's really good at getting things from one place to another place.
Eddie
Who would need that?
Henry
I don't know. Somebody goes beep, beep, beep.
Eddie
That's my.
Henry
That's my cue. That's my trafficking noise. We need to get that yeah, yeah.
Eddie
That's the thing with human trafficking. The real problem is, is how long it is.
Henry
Oh, my God. You've been trafficking started to go from three to nine. Oh, is this non rush hour because no one's moving. So these. So he. Sultana Ahmed bin Sulayem, he was the one that he would trade sexual things with Jeffrey Epstein. This is the guy that Epstein sent the. The email to. I loved the torture video. And he goes. And he. They talk about sex. They talk about. They send each other pictures of naked girls. They send each other pictures of. Of. Of little girls. They send each other pictures of. I also remind yourself, in the Epstein files are some of the worst things I've ever seen and some of the descriptions of some of the worst things that I've ever seen. Because they. A lot of times they will redact a photo, but then describe the photo underneath it. And it is just as bad as reading it, as looking at it, I'll tell you. Right. So we know that that was one. One specific email he sent to Jeffrey Epstein. This is the Sultan. He said two years ago and from an American university in Dubai, it was a girl that had the best sex I ever had. Amazing body. She got engaged, but now she back with me. Me, he said, and that they go back and forth. So that's his buddy. Now, that's the. There's now four names. So those are two famous names.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
Now the four names that came out underneath it. Nicola Caputo, Salvatore Norte. Now, no, nothing's Nicola Caputo is the same name of an Italian politician.
Eddie
Okay.
Henry
That they don't think has anything to do with it. So they don't know who this guy is.
Eddie
So it's an. Because that's the other thing. You look up a name, and then you got to remember other people have the same name.
Henry
Yes.
Eddie
So you're not necessarily finding the correct person because they always bar out the fucking email address.
Henry
These people's lives got just fucking exploded. Like this guy. Salvatore Nuarte. Salvatore Salvatore Nuarte of Queens, New York, called Ro Khanna's office to say straight up, I don't know if they know what they're doing over there at the Justice Department. He told the Guardian, but how can I clear my name? I've been arrested for unrelated crimes. This is this guy. Just a guy from Queens?
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
It's like, I don't. I don't know. That's not me. But, bro, that's not me, bro. I wouldn't do that, bro.
Eddie
Yeah, but he, like, robbed a bank years ago.
Henry
I would never do that. I would never do that, bro. Right. And then Zurab Michaladze. No idea who that person is. And then Leonok. Leon. Leonid Leonov. Right. Who's also. He's this guy. Some randomly. He's an IT manager in Queens. He says that he was being bolted. He's just up.
Eddie
He's like.
Henry
I don't even have a second. Second or third degree connection to him. Never worked for him. Nothing. So these are unnamed. We don't know who these people are. These sounds like guys that literally grabbed girls off the street and helped provide them that were all under Jean Luc Brunel. All these other people that were connected over in Europe that Epstein would work with. I just am illustrating this to understand how big this is. Pam Beyondi yesterday that put out a list of. In a. In a series of. Of malicious compliance. Put out what she said. Oh, you want a list of names? Here's all the names. And gave a list of 300 names that are referred to in the emails, including Elvis Presley, Charlie Chaplin. Any single time anybody's name has been trimmed. Because she's a fucking complicit villain.
Eddie
Well, yeah, because she's trying to fuck with us. The way that they dump these emails is a way to fuck with your brain.
Henry
Yes.
Eddie
When you just give someone this much information, that was the idea organized. It sends people into meltdowns. And then when you're going into the meltdown, you then sound crazy.
Henry
But this is where I'm going to give you guys a leg up because we're going to stop covering it every single day. Every this. At this thickness. Okay. Because we do have other stories we have to talk about eventually. But we're all. But this is the single most. Don't let it. But also don't get a twist it. Because it's the single most important story in the fucking world right now.
Eddie
Of our entire life.
Henry
It is the single most. I don't Anybody. Anybody that laughs at you about being. Not being the single most important political story of our generation can. They are a part of it.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
If they literally don't get why this is so big and why this is the number one, then everybody can go fuck. All right.
Eddie
How people with kids don't care about this. Well, it just makes me nuts.
Henry
It's because they're also purposefully overwhelmed. Yeah. So one thing to do is there's certain file types to look for. One that I thought was really interesting is fd dash302 files.
Eddie
Oh, God.
Henry
So when you look up, if you want to look up a file that is super crucial to the case. It's FD302.
Eddie
Okay.
Henry
What that is is the witness testimony and the various criminal conspirators that were interviewed, and it is the most heavily redacted. And it's stuff that is the missing. And it's the stuff that we have to yell about the most because it's the heart of the entire case. And it's literally what they have now, which I'm now also starting to understand. They obviously don't want the victim's words to be heard by people. Yeah, they don't want them to be heard. They really do believe in many ways that the victim's words, and I'm saying this in from DOJ's perspective, are like the least. Least credible, least amount of work. Like, they hear all of these. Like when Pam Biondi was sitting in that room with all of the victims standing behind her, and then she dared to say that that was political theater. That's like a thing that makes me. Makes my blood boil.
Eddie
Those are the people who the crimes were perpetrated against.
Henry
Against. That's who you're supposed to be fighting for. That. Those are the people you're supposed to be fighting for. Not for the people in the fucking document. And so this. So it's. Don't let them tell you that it's some form of virtue signaling to care about this, because it's not. Anybody that doesn't care about this has no heart. The Dow Jones is going to be there. But seriously, the Dow Jones is going. What I want also to hold. The Dow Jones is going to snap back whatever the fuck it is that we do historically, that Dow Jones is now like. That's why I don't understand my other fucking. Sadly, other CEO types is that honestly, the economy is going to be fine. We'll arrest all of them and the economy will be fine.
Eddie
It'll actually bounce back.
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
And then when we start charging billionaires taxes, guess what comes back? It comes back.
Henry
Yes.
Eddie
It'll go into schools.
Henry
Yeah. Who fucking. I mean, but also. Let's get too far. Ready? Come on. Let's not go too far. All right. So one big thing. That one revision.
Eddie
I didn't want to go too far. I wanted to go back for one second real quick. Quick, the six names. I thought you didn't mention Ehud. Barack. I thought he was all over it, too.
Henry
He is. So this is kind of. This is the other side of it. So this is Ro Khanna. Just name those names. He did that as a point. Like he did those to be like this is just an example of a redacted email that names co conspirators that we have redacted. Yeah, right. So that's kind of what he was trying to say is that like there was no reason for those names to ever be redacted because they were not victims. The only thing that were supposed to be redacted was some information connected to victims, not the people. People that did the crimes. So one thing that came out in this email now this is where I'm going to send you off as a listener. Go and listen. There are two several places to go research now to make it easier. Go to dropsitenews.com okay. It's got the, the most current Epstein information that I have found on a.
Eddie
Substack and you have to pay for that.
Henry
I did pay for it.
Eddie
Okay.
Henry
I did pay for it. But there are an unwant. They're like unpaid for their free articles. So there's like one of the substacks. Becca Day is another one that I follow and they are really following Europe in it. Oh yeah. Epstein and Israel's connections. Yeah. So last week we talked a little about how Poland was doing a big investigation into him being a Russian spy.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
So there. But we all know that he was probably playing four different teams. We know at least we know that he did a weird FOIA request to see what the CIA had on him. Right. So Jeffrey Epstein use the term skiff a lot like he used. He would throw around intelligence terms very easily. And one of it seems the main things that he was doing, of the many things he was doing that he was working with the former Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Barak on creating this like gigantic fund for cyber warfare. And they were going to be building this. Essentially Epstein had inside information about how powerful our cyber weapons were getting. United States of America. Then we did stuff like the, the I believe it was called the Stuxnet attack.
Eddie
Right.
Henry
Where we shut down all of Iranians nuclear programs using this cyber weapon that we've said that we. It wasn't us, blah blah, blah. Right. Epstein knows we're working on this thing. It's the next wave warfare. Remember the discombobulator that Trump talked about? We did we. That we used in Venezuela. They're doing the same thing. So these guys are. Epstein realized, oh, America's getting really dangerous with these. I'm going to help our allies from the inside. So then he starts working with Israel, he starts working with Russia to Create cyber warfare technology.
Eddie
It's like my blue heaven is like, who put you undercover? He's like, I did. It don't work like that.
Henry
I did. He's like, it doesn't work. No, he's. It's. He's. He was available to everyone.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
And I don't think you had money. I think if you had money, he was available. We now know that he was probably a part of whatever was this government coalition between various foreign adversaries to try to control the election in 2016. Because a lot of these guys realized that they would make quite a bit of money when Trump was in office, specifically. Because his administration was specifically promising them that they would make a lot of money if he was president. And then they went ahead and. And really did make quite a bit of money. And they are right now.
Eddie
Yeah, good.
Henry
So that's the. That's kind of like, I'm just going to send you off.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
Epstein scan.org yeah. Another great website that breaks down. Not only does it break down the files, it breaks down all the various relationships. It identifies the people by name, who. What that they're talking about, which is the kind of stuff you need to run like. And then J mail is also crushing it.
Eddie
J mail is, of course, crushing it. And I've been listening to the Epstein Files Book club with Jenna Friedman. Great podcast. She had her Twitter mysteriously disappear and delete and then restart under a different name. So this is Jenna Friedman. If you don't know who Jenna Friedman is, she's amazing political comedian. Follow her career. It's fucking unbelievable. But she would torture Elon on Twitter.
Henry
Oh, yeah.
Eddie
And then one day she woke up and the whole shit was deleted.
Henry
Crazy how that happens.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
These guys are the most sensitive bitches on the face of the planet.
Eddie
Yeah, they really are.
Henry
These guys just really can't handle comedians.
Eddie
Beach heroes are all. Can't wait to shut us all up.
Henry
But then the comedians also. What a shame. They just love.
Eddie
Just God, they treated comedians like currency. That's where my rabbit hole went. I just started looking up every comedian's name and, like, whether they went and how and how and how it all looks. And, I mean, I never knew him, really. I've definitely met him once or twice, but I never wasn't friends with them. Do whatever you can to stay away from Bobby Slayton. Yeah.
Henry
Yes. Bobby Sl.
Eddie
He prob. Needed the bump, to be honest with you.
Henry
Oh. Bobby Slayton is not doing well. But he will. What is nice about Bobby Satan. What we do know is he's available for private parties. Very, very available.
Eddie
Very, very.
Henry
Now, all of our other buddies that are like, you know, Joe Rogan, he was joking, I guess he said he was like, someone tried to get me to go to dinner. And I said, what, are you high? And it's like, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, we'll see.
Eddie
You know, if the. If the child. If it was a baby elk, they would have got him there.
Henry
If it was a racist South African. African, I guess they would have went there. Traitors. I had the least American person on the face of the planet. How did I get here? I'm surrounded by traitors, right? Like. Like I'm surrounded by treasonous. How am I the most American of all of us? I hate this country. I hate these people. I will die for the right. I will fight to protect these people.
Eddie
Though, that will fight.
Henry
Fight to protect me.
Eddie
I.
Henry
What am I doing out here?
Eddie
This is. It's. It's a crazy time. And I think it's just like real quick. I just wanted to tell everybody, if you're going through this rabbit hole, you need to take breaks.
Henry
That's reason why we're taking a break right now to talk about other super casual stuff like the kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's mother. Now this story is just like some really fun stuff I wanted to talk about.
Eddie
Really hope that this helps. Like, I hope that Guthrie's chicken shack can use this as like an advertisement and kind of parlay them. Cuz I don't.
Henry
We got the Guthrie. If she.
Eddie
If they.
Henry
If Guth from Tallahassee. Sorry. Is Guthrie still around?
Eddie
Guthrie's is still around. It's a chain. It's not a big chain, but Canes stole their sauce.
Henry
Literally stole their whole bull.
Eddie
And so Kanes ran with it and they're across the nation. Guthries is left behind.
Henry
I think Guth is still better.
Eddie
Definitely better.
Henry
But I haven't had Guthrie since college.
Eddie
I had a more. I had it recently.
Henry
Recently. Awesome. Is it as good as it was?
Eddie
Just as good.
Henry
No way.
Eddie
Just as good. I'm going to Tallahassee soon. April 11th. I can't wait to have Guthrie's with P. Funk.
Henry
But, dude, there's a Guthrie's in New Mexico.
Eddie
Dude, they're all over the place. Yeah, no, they're great. Yeah. So Guthrie's.
Henry
Whoa. Get to a Guthrie's.
Eddie
You can get to it.
Henry
All right. We've lost the play.
Eddie
Yeah, no, I just wanted to say Canes for stealing Guthrie's.
Henry
I've heard him this. I know say this before. Many times. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah. This is not. This is not a singular rant. This. Yeah, he's talking about it. He's just hungry. All right, here we go. Now, Savannah, gun. For those of you that are living under a rock, I think we covered it very, very quickly when it first.
Eddie
Chicken, Henry.
Henry
Goddamn chicken. Savannah Guthrie, she is. It's Good morning America. Right? And so she is a beloved, beloved anchor. Her mother was kidnapped on January 31st. Nancy Guthrie. Now, at first, obviously they were holding the cards really close to the vest. Savannah. Savannah Guthrie came out and said, we're willing to give the money. They. And like against my original advice.
Eddie
Oh, yeah, because I listen to your advice.
Henry
No, my original advice is again, don't pay a fucking dime. Don't you dare negotiate with these terrorists. And you should call Liam Neeson.
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
To go get him himself. And he could go get. But I understand.
Eddie
One of the bastards.
Henry
Yeah, but now I understand it is. We're now in more serious territory. So the time has passed since I'm asking for money.
Eddie
Yes. And now going into the. We're into the third week.
Henry
It's the third week. What do we know about the case? We know that there was a video from the ring cam that was being with. So we saw a guy in a mask, balaclava. He had some kind of body armor on. Well, you know, when you're kidnapping an agen year old, how. How much body armor you need to have?
Eddie
Dude, it's Arizona. Everyone's strapped.
Henry
Oh, I get it. I get it. Gloves, face mask. He's with the thing. He's about 5. They say he's like 5, 9, 5, 10.
Eddie
Right.
Henry
That's the only information we have. They now believe they have cleared the family.
Eddie
Well, they found the glove.
Henry
He found one of the gloves.
Eddie
Found the gloves a couple miles away. Then they sent it to Florida for DNA testing.
Henry
Good luck. And there was d. Yeah, exactly. Oh, what a reputable place.
Eddie
A place with a little too much DNA hanging around. It's Florida.
Henry
So you got. There was blood that was inside of her home that matched the DNA on glove. Apparently they think that it's the same person. They have no record yet. We don't know. We know the record yet.
Eddie
We don't know.
Henry
Am I helping?
Eddie
This is the only Nancy Guthrie coverage that comes with belching.
Henry
Hey, what am I going to do? I'm a human. I'm a human man in here.
Eddie
Yeah, they got the bomb.
Henry
I was thinking, first thing I knew is if it was me, I would have done guys, I would have completely stopped him in their track. No, I. I guess this is my question. You kidnap. We have no idea why they're doing this. Now, TMZ is now directly in negotiations with the guy. He. Who says he knows the guy?
Eddie
He says, yeah, he says he's seen. Seen Nancy Guthrie and he has information, but he doesn't want to go to the cops because he has past crimes. He doesn't want to get arrested for it.
Henry
And he said that they saw them go south of the police border. Right. Now, this is my question, which ain't far, not from Arizona. But my question is, is okay, you're a kidnapper. Your job, you're going to get this woman. You get this 80 year old woman, you're going to do it with like, God knows why. It seems mostly might have been. It seems it was like for money, but then they sent this ransom note and then they didn't get in, didn't get back.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
What happens if you kidnap an 80 year old woman and then she dies on you?
Eddie
Especially when she doesn't have her medicine, apparently.
Henry
Yep. What do you do then? Go to Mexico with a dead woman?
Eddie
I mean, you know, they're not really checking everything all the time. You know, you can get into Mexico a lot easier than you can get out.
Henry
No, I guess that's true. It's also one of those where I feel like, because we had a bit of a debate, a successful kidnapper gets the money.
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
A successful kidnapper doesn't.
Eddie
He's doing well.
Henry
No, he's not.
Eddie
I. Well, I mean, they're not caught, which I'm very blown away by.
Henry
You say that. That's. But that to me. No, that's not what he was trying to do. He was trying to get money.
Eddie
How much money is her dead body worth?
Henry
Nothing.
Eddie
Nothing.
Henry
Absolutely nothing.
Eddie
I mean, I'd pay a little bit for my mom's body.
Henry
I mean, the most you're gonna get out of me. I'm sorry. If you've already killed her.
Eddie
Ten grand, Eddie.
Henry
Two grand. Two, three grand. She's already dead. She's already dead there. I'm not paying you ten grand for a cold body. All right, at that point, you barrier. Yeah, I mean, tell me where you bury her. I'll come visit her. Honestly, you go, that costs two grand. I'll pay to barrier. All right, you just send me a geolocation of where she is. I'll go visit visitor because obviously clears up a lot of problems for me.
Eddie
Make it close to Cabo.
Henry
If you don't Mind if you don't mind. Just so that I can hit some of my little. I'm trying to get to know the locals. No, this is. It's. It's extremely sad. I. I don't know what they were expecting to get out of this and I don't think it is going to end well for anybody.
Eddie
Oh man. That when they showed when they thought it was the brother in law at first and like. And then they showed a picture of that guy and I was like they got him?
Henry
Yeah, he's like. I started just because I look like shit. My wife, my sister just because I'm ugly.
Eddie
You think I stole her.
Henry
Just because my sister is literally one of the beloved hearts of America and I'm a fucking drifter looking railroad working.
Eddie
Not me.
Henry
Need child murderer looking guy. I understand.
Eddie
Investigate me but not for too long. You have to find the people who did this.
Henry
Honestly, clear me.
Eddie
I am unemployable.
Henry
Please clear me. Getting one person to sign off on me will maybe help. All right, we got. That's a horrible story. We know nothing else. So that's really it. We don't know fucking anything else and we're just sitting and waiting just like.
Eddie
The rest of you? Yes.
Henry
So who knows? So if you know have any information side stories lpotlmail.com so I can send that information patient to the police and we can get the reward?
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
And if we can or just give it directly to the. Or you should probably just give it directly to the Arizona police. But if you want to cut us in on that be great.
Eddie
Yeah. And then when we get the reward we're going to put it towards free circumcisions for anybody.
Henry
Free circumcision. Free circumcisions. I'm going to bring my guillotine. We're going to have you guys come out here. There's nothing barbaric about it. It's completely normal behavior. Nothing barbaric about it. Nothing. Nothing off putting about it at all.
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I'm Oliver.
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Henry
So do you like secrets?
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Eddie
We got here body in the bathtub.
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Not if I get you first.
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Eddie
All right, let's talk about something fun.
Henry
Oh, yeah, like family annihilation.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
Is that what you want to talk about? Because I have this story.
Eddie
All right, go ahead.
Henry
Now, this is a brutal story.
Eddie
Story. Another one.
Henry
Why not just throw it on the pile? So this is. This was. They were ever at the Rio in Las Vegas. You ever been to the Rio?
Eddie
I have. It sucks. Yeah. It's not nice. It seems to be dirty.
Henry
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what.
Eddie
But if, you know, if you want to see Penn and Teller, you go to the Rio. That's where the comedy seller is. That's fine.
Henry
But you go to the Rio and you leave because some people get so sad that there.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
They check in, but they don't check out. This is a. This is a sad story. Mother, daughter found dead. Parent murder, suicide at the Rio at a cheerleading competition. Give me an S. S. Give me U.
Eddie
Suicide's a long.
Henry
I know.
Eddie
I'm so sorry. I'm sorry.
Henry
This is the. I'm extremely sorry. They were over at the Utah Extreme Cheer Competition, which is. Honestly. This has been extreme.
Eddie
I mean, this is extreme. Yeah, this is. This is the most. Most extreme cheering I've ever heard of.
Henry
Yes. And so she. 10:45am this. She shot a little girl. Tanya McGee hand shot her girl. Little girl. AI Smith. She was Addie Smith, who was 12 and then shot herself. Now, the thing that it seems to be. What came to a head was that they had a nine. She had a nine year custody battle for Addie.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah. And going through a divorce.
Henry
She's going through a lot, right? The lady's going through quite a bit, as you could probably tell. Well, and it said, apparently she got really upset about getting some mean texts from the other cheer moms.
Eddie
Oh, really?
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
This is a cheer mom led to murder.
Henry
This is. Cheer moms got together, encouraged her to commit suicide.
Eddie
Really?
Henry
No, not really. But like, basically just said, your dog. We don't like your daughter. Your daughter is bad for the team. Your daughter's a new thing. They were like, doing the thing that cheer moms did.
Eddie
Like, oh, see, I was like, for two seconds, I was like, oh, these cheer moms are like, do it, do it, do it.
Henry
Get the gun, get the gun.
Eddie
Telling her to, like, be nice to her daughter.
Henry
No, no, opposite. They were saying that her daughter sucked. They're telling her her daughter sucked and that she was bringing down the team and that Tania sucked and that they were all, like, mad about it because she was a new ad to the team. And honestly, man, that's what.
Eddie
It's hard out there.
Henry
But don't let these bitches get you down. Remember when we talked about Eleanor Roosevelt? Yes, the quote.
Eddie
The quote. Oh, yes, the quote. Which is a. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Henry
So be like Eleanor Roosevelt.
Eddie
El eat.
Henry
Get out there and don't let these people bring you down. All right, you're at the cheerleading conference. Your job, add as a cheerleader.
Eddie
Yeah, you are a cheerleader.
Henry
And I. I'm not gonna blame Addie at all. Obviously, she was a 12 year old girl, but this is the time to really put her skills to the test.
Eddie
It's just crazy that these cheer moms are like, your girl is sad and she's. They're not like checking on her mental.
Henry
Health or well being. None.
Eddie
They're just like, she's gonna fuck up the competition sucks.
Henry
Your waste of space.
Eddie
I haven't seen her smile big enough.
Henry
Yes, they really. It was really rough, but Tonyo was obviously very upset.
Eddie
Yeah, well, you know, maybe it's because they had to stay at the Rio and not the Mandalay Bay.
Henry
Honestly, the Rio, it's not the Luxor.
Eddie
I mean, if it's not the Luxor, then tear it down.
Henry
I mean, it just. It's not the Luxor, but it's like, now we know another place where people have committed suicide on the show Strip. I know the Luxor is a big.
Eddie
The first suicide at the Rio.
Henry
It's Vegas, Eddie. It's only happy there. Who would ever be sad in Vegas? That's kind of what I'm even sad about. This woman brought sadness to Las Vegas.
Eddie
It's nothing bad ever happens there. Not once.
Henry
It's not built on mob activity. The whole place isn't built on crime, human trafficking, and pure deep. It's not just the suicide. Capital America. According to 2004 CBS article. Who would ever do that? Who would ever check into the Four Seasons Las Vegas? Like that guy did the top of the article. Blow his brains out at the Four Seasons Las Vegas.
Eddie
There's another one. Yeah, right. Problem. You go to Vegas, there are no four. There aren't four seasons. There's three at best.
Henry
Maybe what you got? Golf, tourism. I'm trying to think where the other seasons are. Rodeo season.
Eddie
It's a big season. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. We saw that.
Henry
Boy, I don't know if we covered this with the seriousness. People wanted it.
Eddie
No. What do. Well, here's a positive story. I'm. I'm coming in with a positive story. There's also a big murder suicide in Bulgaria.
Henry
Yeah. And the hardest part about a Bulgarian mass suicide is switching legs. You guys know, right?
Eddie
You know.
Henry
You know what that is?
Eddie
No, I don't.
Henry
Bulgarian squats.
Eddie
Bulgarian squats?
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
Oh, you're getting two into working out.
Henry
I was a working out thing. Oh, Bulgarian squats. You never did that in the football team, or is that just what you were doing on top of your. The. The coach, right? From Europe?
Eddie
Hey, come on. He was nice. He was a friend. Oh, that.
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
Oh, okay.
Henry
It's. When you dip, you do little dips with your knees. You normally hold a weight.
Eddie
She's got nice pants.
Henry
That's what you notice.
Eddie
All right, so here's the story that my. My favorite story of the week is. A Saskatchewan man fights off a starving moose with his fists and a shovel and a.22 to save his mother.
Henry
Now, this is. Okay, normally when we do these animal man fights. Animal attack. The man is awful, always bad. And we. Oh, we. We don't like them. And we joke. We. Last week we just covered all these. The. This week we're covering elephant attacks. Yes. Right. So we're covering all. So. But this is a nice. Like, he had to fight this.
Eddie
This is a true, true, honorable fight to the death against a dying moose and a man. All right, so this moose. It's cold out. Negative 40 Celsius. Apparently in the living.
Henry
Where is he? On the moon?
Eddie
Saskatchewan.
Henry
Jesus Christ. So this moose insulation, we just need a. Wow, that's cold. Jesus Christ.
Eddie
So this malnourished moose crawls up to the house because there's a heating vent. And it just wants a little warm warmth. All right? But it's, like really thin and really sick. And it's dying, okay? Because there's not enough food for it. It's too cold out. The guy's mom goes outside to take out the trash or some. The moose sees her. She starts screaming to try and scare it away. The moose is furious. Beats the out of the old lady.
Henry
Well, to be honest, it sounds like she, like, irritated the moose or something.
Eddie
I mean, you gotta scream at the moose.
Henry
But what. So it was like, what was it trying to do?
Eddie
Stay war warm? Because there was a heating vent that was leaning up against it was trying to live. Okay? It is. There is a hint of sadness in the story.
Henry
Why did you just let it be under the heating vent?
Eddie
Because I think it saw. Her and moose are very violent. Oh, Moose, will your ass up.
Henry
I found a video of him telling the story if you want to. Want to check it out real quick.
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
Henry
Is it one of those things where if she's on her period or something me sketch, like, it might get, like, moose get worse.
Eddie
Right?
Henry
Am I wrong? Well, like, honestly, no. Like a bear.
Eddie
This is a man. This is a man moose, though.
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Henry
But he had a fight. But why He. She attacked the one. Why the moose attacked the woman in the first place?
Eddie
Because it's starving and it's dying and it's gonna get really defensive. And moose are already violent on the bottom line. Let me tell the quick version of the story and because I only read it once, and I want to see how right I am, and then we'll play his version. So. So he sees the moose on top of his mother. He goes up and he's like, get off my mom, Moose. And he punches it in the face a bunch. He splits its lid open.
Henry
Is reminded of your childhood.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the moose is like, you piece of. And Moose is like, starts, like, kicking his mom again, you know, and she's like, oh, God, my head. My body's hurting. And. And then he's like, all right, I'll get. And he gets a big ass shovel. He starts slapping the moose in the face with the shovel. Moose is like, come on, bro, you ain't gonna take me down with no shovel.
Henry
He's like, that's what you're gonna do there, partner?
Eddie
He's like, you stay right there. Don't move. You stay on my mother. You stay right there. He goes in his house, grabs his.22 rifle. All right, 22 small bullets.
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
Shoots the moose directly in the eyeball. Moose unfazed, shoots the moose in the other eyeball, unfazed, starts shooting it over and over again in the same spot in its head until these.22s eventually penetrate its brain and it dies on the spot. True fight to the.
Henry
That is a hard fight. That's a gun fight. It is a gun punch.
Eddie
And these guys, they look at him, he's so nice looking.
Henry
Yes, like kind.
Eddie
The true kindness.
Henry
I heard one guy call them those little snub nose. Someone I saw some was gotten to a hole of self defense videos. Yeah. And he calls those ear, nose and throat guns.
Eddie
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry
He's like, you gotta mash it up against a guy's face.
Eddie
All right, let's hear his story. See how close close I was.
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Sean Tufnell says the showdown happened in bean fate on the morning of January 22nd when he found his mom stuck below the moose.
Sean Tufnell
My mom decided to come out to start a vehicle. The moose was laying right against the two vents. She come around the corner here, just startled the moose.
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Tufnell's mom, Angie Toughnell, tried to run back into the house when the moose pushed her down. Tufnell came out of the house after hearing his mom yellow for help.
Sean Tufnell
He put his ears right back, which means they're not going to run. So then I took about two steps and I punched him in the face right here and his head went up in the air.
Eddie
You're a big boy too.
Sean Tufnell
I just took one step out of the Canadian boy, swung his foot at me and just missed my face.
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Coming to terms with the situation he had now found himself in, Tufnell says he grabbed a shovel and tried to fight back, only to have the moose charge him into the door frame.
Sean Tufnell
Then he went and he turned and looked at her again and he put his ears back and he went to go at her. And then I went out and I grabbed him by the ear and like the bridge of the nose and pulled him because I knew I was safe in the doorway. And then he come right back in. His teeth were out like that, trying to get me. I got end up getting over top of the head like this. He picked me up and I hit the door for him a couple times.
Henry
Holy.
Sean Tufnell
That's when he broke my rib.
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At that point, Toughno says He called for Dave, his mom's boyfriend, to bring out a gun. After some more commotion, was able to retrieve the gun and shot the moose over a dozen times.
Sean Tufnell
You can see that stain is actually where all the blood was.
Adidas Enthusiast
Both Tufnell and his mom were able to get away from the fight with treatable injuries.
Ciara
I have quite a big gash in my leg, in the inside of the leg here. And when he made this gash with.
Henry
His hoof, he slid down to my heel and he made a bruise. You're bumming me out, lady.
Eddie
Get back to the boy.
Henry
Shut up, lady.
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The moose's body was then taken to Saskatoon for testing. The Canadian Wildlife Health Cooperative said in a statement that the adult male moose was in very poor conditions but ultimately died from multiple gunshot wounds. Toughness. Mom is just grateful for her son and hope this doesn't happen to anyone else.
Ciara
So I'm lucky to be alive.
Eddie
Very lucky.
Henry
You don't sound like it. Lucky. Thanks to him. To my son. Yeah. Thank your fucking.
Eddie
So son.
Henry
He fought like a moose.
Ciara
A savage.
Eddie
I say global news.
Henry
Wow.
Eddie
Incredible story.
Henry
Why do I feel like she's. Like she made her. How do I put this? She. Only a mother can do a feel like. Make a vibe that feels like it's almost. He should feel guilty for killing the mother. For, like helping her survive. Like there's something about this where she's like this. Cuz, you know, it's the type of lady that's almost was like, I should be dead. I should be dead. And then he fights.
Eddie
I always dreamt the moose would take me back.
Henry
I wanted to go this way. You took this from me. One thing I was supposed to do was have my teeth choosed off by moose. Stay away from my mom.
Eddie
Moose.
Henry
This is how I supposed to go. I saw him dream. I talked to. I talked to fortune teller woman.
Eddie
I don't want to kill you, Moose.
Henry
Don't kill the moose.
Eddie
Let the moose kill me.
Henry
It is my fate. You can't kill the most. It is my fate. It sends me to heaven. See your miserable father. Well, I'm certain that honestly it all worked out.
Eddie
Except for the moose.
Henry
Except for the moose. Moose got absolutely just crazy.
Eddie
Murdered. Yeah.
Henry
Hey. Don't attack an old lady.
Eddie
It was sick. If that moose was relatively healthy, he would not have won the fight.
Henry
No. He would have tore him to shreds. But also of him.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
Here we go. We got another. We asked.
Eddie
That's a little piece of advice for everyone out there. If you're going to fight a Moose, make sure it's sick.
Henry
Not with two cues.
Eddie
All right.
Henry
Nice. That a new metal Moose. Right. All right, so I think that we've. We've covered quite a bit today. I think we've got some letters you.
Eddie
Don'T want to talk about the paramedic coming in the fireman's chili.
Henry
Yeah, I can talk about it.
Eddie
I mean, we don't need to go too far.
Henry
Really not that deep.
Eddie
It's really not that deep. It was right on top. No, but the. No, but apparently there was this paramedic who was like coming and pissing all over the fire station.
Henry
Was he just trying to do a prank? A quote unquote fungny prank?
Eddie
You know, at the beginning of the article, it seemed like it was all a prank, but now it seems like he's just like a sick who likes to cover in his own common pits.
Henry
There's a problem with pranks.
Eddie
I'm okay with a prank.
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Prank.
Henry
A prank.
Eddie
You do it once.
Henry
We have said this. How many times have we said this? Yeah, a prank is funny.
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
So a prank, it can be annoying, but the goal is to laugh. Yeah, right. Like that is the goal. In the end, you go, oh, that's it. Not the. Oh my God. You put your ejaculate all over my security equipment. Yeah, that's not a. A.
Eddie
You pissed on an ice machine and mixed it up. Yeah, that's not a prank.
Henry
That's not a prank. You know what a prank is, no matter how. A rubber snake.
Eddie
Yes, that's a prank. That's a fireman Are used to that.
Henry
They love that kind of prank. You know, it's a prank. One of your buddy's wife's.
Eddie
That's kind of a prank.
Henry
And in firemen, it depends.
Eddie
Yeah, firemen, they got loose rules.
Henry
Firemen, they each other's wives all day. That's all they do is swap wives when they're sitting around waiting for to do.
Eddie
No, I mean between the naps and spaghetti. A lot of spaghetti.
Henry
We know what's going on here.
Eddie
I know what you guys do.
Henry
Yeah, we like to come for the fireman. Yeah, yeah.
Eddie
Living off the cloud of 911 for 20 something years.
Henry
You know what you do? Sit around waiting for another 911 to happen so you could do whatever you want. We know what you. Each one of you guys wants your own sorry. Honestly, we really appreciate our firemen.
Eddie
Please, please save us.
Henry
We love each other. We need you in la. All right, let's look. Let's look at this one letter. You want a New stinger. We got a couple stingers. Of course, you wanted a funk stinger, so we got. Yeah, I mean, we got a couple of them.
Eddie
I'll play you one. I'm always surprised when people, like, just do the things that we randomly ask.
Henry
I love it. It fills me with delight. Yeah, man. Here you go. Straight funk.
Eddie
I want straight funk. Somebody.
Henry
Oh, yeah.
Eddie
Last podcast presents side stories.
Henry
Listener emails. Yeah, that's awesome.
Eddie
That was really great.
Henry
Yeah, Especially did the thing because, like, I. Because you know how that's how Michael Jackson wrote songs. Oh.
Eddie
All right. Shut up for a second. Listen, my name's Quincy Jones, and you got to shut up for a second. All right, let me. You.
Henry
Well, you got enough of a woman, like, exterior. Well, here we go. First of all, I got several emails. We talked last week about the Olive Garden chef who committed suicide by sickness. I. The fryer. And I got two emails from health inspectors.
Eddie
Oh, okay.
Henry
That Eddie reiterated what Eddie said, which is, you know, it does clean it right out. I told you, they're like, that bleach cleans it right out. You wouldn't even know it's in there. Biologically, it's gone. Because I brought this up to Natalie. I said, how would you feel about going back to that Olive Garden? She was like, I wouldn't go. And I was like, you know, they said it would be completely clean. It just seemed. Seems to me as well, I wouldn't want to immediately go to the place where the chef committed suicide, because I want the chef to be happy.
Eddie
Well, that particular chef. Not all most chefs hate their lives.
Henry
Yeah, of course. But I. Everyone does.
Eddie
Yes, Everybody works. Yeah. But chefs are a little more violent about it.
Henry
I love chefs. Real chefs.
Eddie
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Me too.
Henry
And I like. I like our guy. Like, our cooks, too.
Eddie
Yeah. And, you know, Natalie was right about that, but just right about not going to the Olive Garden in general.
Henry
Well, we all know that Olive Garden. I also got weird. Several passions, passionate, like people sticking up for Olive Garden.
Eddie
Oh, really?
Henry
And you're wrong. You're objectively. No, you're wrong, and you gotta find a new place to go. Okay. I. That is what I'm not. I'll step back on the circumcision stuff. I'll learn. I'll learn and I'll hear. I'll open up discourse.
Eddie
I'm happy for people with that.
Henry
I will. Happy. But if you try to tell me and not because I've again, what I said. I had the ultimate Olive Garden experience. I've been there for A wedding reception. And I've been there for a awake. And it's not good. That's like when they're supposed to be at their best.
Eddie
Yeah, right.
Henry
At awake. You think it Awake. They would really do their best.
Eddie
Where would you put Olive Garden? Above or below Buca di Beppo?
Henry
Below.
Eddie
Below, Right. Yeah. Because booba de Beco sucks.
Henry
Disgusting.
Eddie
Horrible. Great decor.
Henry
Better ambiance.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry
I agree. Here we go.
Eddie
Rob's looking at his puzzle. You've never been to a Buca Dieppo. No, I have.
Henry
It's just so expensive. Yeah. How is it so bad if it's so expensive?
Eddie
I've never paid for a meal there. I always eat for free.
Henry
That's how you like it. You like it because you're spending a lot of money. Mr. Lawson.
Eddie
You're. You're. You're not the table next to the po.
Henry
I just think that Olive Garden exists for a reason. Because there's certain places in the United States, like say, H. Wyoming, Nebraska. Well, hey, where there are nice Italian, there are better chains. Chains.
Eddie
The Kansas has great Italian food.
Henry
Carrabbas. I don't know why I'm going to bat for them right now. Carabas is a better chaino's. Is a better chain. Yes. The what tells a better not? Noodle factory. Spaghetti Factory. It's a Canadian chain. This is better cheese. Fazuli's is fine. Just saying these small towns, they're lucky if they can get four chains. I just named. You can find a chain.
Eddie
Yeah. Macaroni Grill. Did we listen to Borrow?
Henry
No, that's what I was looking for. Macaroni Grill is also extremely.
Eddie
And that's a little expensive.
Henry
It is. Sure. But are you going on a date or not?
Eddie
Yeah, it's same thing.
Henry
Or if you're going to the. And then the. Unfortunately, the Mussolini of all of them. The Cheesecake Factory.
Eddie
Oh, absolutely. God. But I will say, in my experience, Olive Garden will let you drink underage.
Henry
Yes.
Eddie
So if you're trying to do that.
Henry
Oh, yeah. If you're 14 and you like. You like Porter Rossi, you're going to. Love of God. All right, so let me get this little letter. So I heard your story about the Olive Garden chef who committed suicide. Cook let you call him cook.
Eddie
He's a cook.
Henry
And I wanted to share the following when it came to businesses not closing when an employee dies. My roommate in college worked for Universal Studios Hollywood.
Eddie
I've been there. Punch?
Henry
Well, love that place.
Eddie
That's great.
Henry
She mostly did just, you know, Janitorial work in the lower lot. But when she went to clock out at a shift change once, she was told by management to not define discuss this afternoon's events. So having no idea what the they were talking about, she asked around. Turns out an employee who had quit the day before came back that day, shot his girlfriend, and then shot himself in the upper lot. LAPD came. That area park was closed for a few hours. Where they cleaned up the blood.
Eddie
Upper parking lot.
Henry
Yeah, did the upper. No, it's. It was in the Despicable Me area.
Eddie
Really?
Henry
Apparently this part of the park is so popular for employee suicides.
Eddie
I've been there. It makes sense.
Henry
Got near the Minions by the Minions.
Eddie
Oh no.
Henry
That they call it.
Eddie
They're evil.
Henry
A funny little joke that they call it. Within amongst themselves is the super suicide Fun Land. Oh, and instead of the super silly fun Land, tangentially related, but this is also a part of the park where you can smoke. Oh, but that cuz also the part explicitly geared towards young children.
Eddie
So they let them what, like smoke behind the rides there? Yeah, it makes sense that you smoke. Yeah, they don't want the smokers going all the way to the bottom. You got to go back up all those escalators. You can eat them back to work really fast.
Henry
Escalators are specifically scares. You don't have to climb.
Eddie
Well, I mean, you know, it takes forever.
Henry
Yeah, but if you're a smoker, you don't care. You're waiting for death.
Eddie
Yeah. I mean, if I were to choose somewhere to kill myself at Universal Studios, I mean, I feel like the despicable Me area is the best choice.
Henry
I agree. Honestly, I would do it on the Simpsons ride. I would probably go just for the. No, they need to change it. And you know what?
Eddie
I would probably lose.
Henry
But if I was going to do it, obviously I would do it on a White House tour.
Eddie
Oh, yes.
Henry
So I want to say thank you guys so much for joining.
Eddie
Just like everyone else who's talking about the Epstein files. We're joking. We would never kill ourselves.
Henry
Yeah. I'm not sad. I don't do high risk behavior.
Eddie
Lives are phenomenal.
Henry
Super boring. I don't do anything. I take no physical risks. If you see anything happen to me, know that something bad happen.
Eddie
I ain't skydiving none of that. I. I barely eating chicken wings.
Henry
I just got my health by. By just my blood report back. My heart's fine.
Eddie
My heart's doing great. My cholesterol's down. I don't have diabetes. No More. No one's trying. I ain't trying to die.
Henry
Spoiler, Eddie, because you never fully talked about your pre diabetes disorder.
Eddie
Well, I had pre diabetes and I got diabetes and now like it went down back.
Henry
But you never really talked about it.
Eddie
No, because I was very scared because both of my parents died of diabetes and I just didn't want to joke about it.
Henry
But you beat it.
Eddie
I do.
Henry
Well, for now.
Eddie
I mean, it's. It's with you forever.
Henry
You're maintaining it in a way that I'm super proud of you. Yeah. You look really good.
Eddie
I'm going to live.
Henry
You don't look like shit.
Eddie
Thank you. I appreciate that. You don't look like shit either.
Henry
I look fine.
Eddie
Both of us could look way worse. And I'll tell you what, in our 20 Sutton year relationship, I think we're most attractive now.
Henry
This is. I'm sorry, guys.
Eddie
Yeah, this is as good as it gets.
Henry
This is as nice as you can look.
Eddie
When Henry and I. When I was 280 and Henry was 320, we were a pair.
Henry
When you saw us rolling in, you knew shit was about to get loose, man. God, that Vegas seafood buffet never saw us coming.
Eddie
Oh, man.
Henry
The one in Glendale, California.
Eddie
Oh, yeah. Always get landlocked seafood.
Henry
Always get landlocked city name seafood and another landlocked city. City that it's not in. That's where you get your buffet food.
Eddie
Always. Yes. Oh, he did it. They did it in Jurassic Parking.
Henry
No, that's where I would do it. Oh, that's right.
Sean Tufnell
Jurassic Park.
Eddie
Jurassic Park. Well, then why would you do it there?
Henry
Just so I can always be there. Yeah.
Eddie
Wow. Cute. That's sweet.
Henry
Just like Robert Duvall. We chose wrong. Definitely chose wrong for our. Our. We chose a lot of. Robert Duvall would have been an awesome death pool choice.
Eddie
Oh, for sure. But I didn't, you know, I don't want to. You know, I didn't want that, you know. He's 90. What a great life.
Henry
Super, super great life.
Eddie
A lot of good ones died this year. But we're not doing that right now.
Henry
No, we're not. Just go out there and try to live your own Robert Duvall like Life. Go to patreon.com Last podcast on the left. You can listen to the show with no ads. You also can see last stream on the Left live 6pm PST every week on Tuesday. And man, do we have some fun. We have a bunch of new stuff on there. You can See we are 25 video tiers submitting videos in Order for it to show. For our brand new show. Last stream on the left after hours, which will beginning next Tuesday. We will be doing that for the very first time. Go check us out on the Patreon. And we're going to be starting our brand new movie podcast. So we're going to be putting up this. Either this week or next week. I'll be talking with our. With our crew. We're going to be putting up a poll of directors that you would like for us to consider in our movie podcasting that we're doing. So we're going to put that. We're going to put it all up. You're going to choose amongst your selection.
Eddie
And we'll pick the top two.
Henry
Yes.
Eddie
And do episodes on them. And you want to say who they are. Might as well get people excited.
Henry
Well, right now I want. We want people to choose.
Eddie
I chose two and you chose three.
Henry
Yes.
Eddie
All right. You want to tell them. Tell the people who you chose.
Henry
Well, I want to do Jan. Frank Meyer.
Eddie
Huh.
Henry
I want to do Alejandro Jodorowsky.
Eddie
Yes.
Henry
Or I want to do.
Eddie
Do I have to watch a bunch of Jordanowski?
Henry
Yeah, you might. Depends if they get us. Have you seen the other ones?
Eddie
I've seen El Topo and Holy Mountain.
Henry
They're great.
Eddie
I mean, all right. Movies. Fantastic. Just make you so upset.
Henry
Yeah.
Eddie
The Animal Murder.
Henry
Wait till you see John Shrank Meyer.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
Then also the other one is I can't wait for Yan Shank Meyers and then Andre Tarkovsky.
Eddie
Yeah. And we're gonna do all of these eventually. We just want to know who we want to. Who you want us to do first. And my choices were William Friedkin because I want to see his whole catalog and Walter Hill, who's a guy who I just discovered that he just made a bunch of action movies. And some of them are awful and some of them are just awesome.
Henry
I love that.
Eddie
I watched a movie called Extreme Prejudice last night. What a blast. So, yeah, get into these weird directors, these older directors.
Henry
Absolutely.
Eddie
And the Miseducation of Ed Larson. The Bob Lazar episodes now available on patreon for the $10 tier and up. Come see Henry and I on the road. Crimewave@c.com left to get tickets to see Henry and I at crime wave at C 2.0 in February of 2027. Plan ahead. Go have fun. We're going to get.
Henry
We're gonna have such. It's a great vacation.
Eddie
The pool party is the most fun. I can't wait to do that. It's the most work Henry and I've ever done in the net in the show.
Henry
It was.
Eddie
And it was wild. It was a blast.
Henry
Anybody who saw that knows how ridiculous that show was.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
And knows that we're just gonna do it again. And now we actually kind of know how to do it. Yeah. So we're very, very excited. It's going to be like. If it wasn't as much fun as the last time.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
I would not be pushing at this art.
Eddie
Yeah.
Henry
No.
Eddie
I talked to the staff and they're going to give me a really nice Connect four to beat the out of all of you with. So that's going to be good. On March 14th, we're going to be in Urbana, Illinois. On April 26th, Lexington, Kentucky. May 7th, Netflix is a joke here in LA. Henry and I are going to be at the avalon Theater at 9:45.
Henry
Come check that out.
Eddie
Night of too many stars is too many stars. Okay. Come see to fuck.
Henry
Yeah. Fuck those fucking stars. You see them all the time. They're all complicit.
Eddie
Yeah, they're all.
Henry
Come see a couple of people that are literally. Come to see some people who are literally as far away from the machine as possible.
Eddie
Not allowed to participate.
Henry
Yes. Come to our show. Our show is better than their show.
Eddie
May 30, Rochester, N.Y. and June 28, London, Ontario. Then of course, I'm going to be going to be doing some stand up here In L. A April 3rd at the Lyric Hyperion with Amber Nelson. PFO Fest, baby. In Tallahassee, April 11th and VyStar Stadium. That is the Jumbo Shrimp Stadium with Danny Pedrosian and Holden McNeely. And that's going to be on April 12th. Come see those shows. They're going to be a blast. Tickets for everything are available@eddytunes.com yep. Yeah, that's right. I put it all on there. Go to last podcast on the left. Of course. Always buy your tickets through the links that we provide. Don't buy these second hand tickets. It's never us and no ever.
Henry
Go to LastPodcastLeft.com it's the only way to get them. Yeah, we'd like to thank Ian over at Floor Audio for that amazing stinger.
Eddie
That was great, buddy.
Henry
Great work.
Eddie
See you, P. Funk Fest.
Henry
Yeah, bro.
Eddie
Oh yeah.
Henry
Hail Satan.
Eddie
You know what? Hail him again.
Henry
Live every day. Fighting for the liberty of people. For people. Fighting for the liberty of people you hate. Love the fact that America is all about that. We're all in here. We're all in here together. And the only way we're gonna get.
Eddie
Out out of this when we're laughing.
Henry
Our way to the fucking guillotines with all these fuckers blood running down the streets.
Eddie
Yeah, eat that jerky, y'.
Henry
All. Enjoy.
Ciara
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Episode Date: February 18, 2026
Hosts: Henry Zebrowski & Ed Larson
Podcast Network: The Last Podcast Network
This Side Stories episode blends the hosts' signature dark comedy and true crime banter, focusing on topics ranging from Jeffrey Epstein file updates, listener mail on men’s health, an attempted abduction in the Guthrie family, and the headline story: a Saskatchewan man’s brawl with a moose to save his mother. True to LPOTL style, Henry and Ed intersperse deep dives with off-the-rails jokes, listener emails, and gleefully tangential discussions.
[16:18–38:00]
[03:58–11:00]
[38:00–45:01]
[53:09–59:04]
[61:05–69:44]
[47:51–52:19]
[69:44–77:44]
On Epstein Files:
“When you just give someone this much information, that was the idea… it sends people into meltdowns. And then you sound crazy.” (Eddie, [28:48])
On Modern Political Corruption
“It is the single most important political story of our generation — can’t let it go.” (Henry, [29:21])
On the Guthrie Kidnapping
“A successful kidnapper gets the money. A successful kidnapper doesn’t — he’s doing well. No, he’s not.” (Henry & Eddie riff, [42:54])
Man vs. Moose
“He put his ears right back, which means they’re not going to run. So I took two steps and punched him in the face.” (Sean Tufnell, [57:22])
“If you see your mom fighting a moose, just make sure the moose is sick.” (Eddie, [60:46])
| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |-----------|---------------| | 01:26 | Ghislaine Maxwell prison/aging (opening banter) | | 03:58 | Listener mail: foreskin/circumcision debate | | 16:18 | Epstein files: cruise crime segue | | 19:52 | Human jerky? (Epstein cannibalism rumors) | | 22:00 | Science, eugenics, Pam Bondi’s role | | 23:00 | Ro Khanna: new conspirator names & confusion | | 30:06 | “FD-302” interview files, victim suppression | | 38:00 | Savannah Guthrie’s mother’s abduction recap | | 47:51 | Cheer mom murder-suicide, Vegas hotel | | 53:09 | ‘Man vs. Moose’ headline story | | 61:05 | Paramedic “prank” (cum/pee on firehouse food) | | 64:19 | Olive Garden chef suicide and chain dining rants | | 69:44 | Health/life updates, tour and Patreon plug |
Irreverent, darkly comic, conspiratorial, occasionally scatological, but sincere regarding the gravity of criminal abuse cases. The episode is a blend of serious outrage and gleeful idiocy, with hosts riffing on both appalling news and the comically mundane.
This summary is designed to guide LPOTL fans—or newcomers—through the winding, often wild journey of a Side Stories episode, providing coherent coverage of the recurring themes, memorable moments, and essential context from “Man vs Moose.”