
Henry & Eddie bring you this week's biggest stories and true crime news - The boys weigh in on Tom Holland, Zendaya, and the Polymarket, the new Netflix documentary Maternal Instinct and the story of Taylor Parker - who faked a pregnancy and murdered friend to steal her unborn child, Peter Theils secret society exposed, AI draws first blood, Indian man stands in the same place for 12 years as a vow to god Shiva, Listener E-Mails, and MORE!
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Eddie Larson
This is the last on the left side stories.
Henry Zebrowski
That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. My fault that I'm out here feeling loose, got a sicken on my juice and I'm sitting on this goose. It ain't my fault.
Eddie Larson
Is that how you make foie gras?
Henry Zebrowski
I mean in the old days.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, you just get on a goose and you sit on them until it's delicious.
Henry Zebrowski
No, you're not supposed to now. Now it's like the problem is that you're supposed to feed a goose so many delicious like fatty things and now it's like they took that away from the goose.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, but it was basically, it was my 500 pound life as a goose.
Henry Zebrowski
He was torturing the goose.
Eddie Larson
It's like if they ate the person at the end of my 500 pound life or just ate their liver, dude, just ate their. You know, it's a tasty liver.
Henry Zebrowski
That is a really fun idea.
Eddie Larson
My 500 pound liver.
Henry Zebrowski
I would love to see the fat content of a 600 pound person in the like. I actually wonder, Eddie. I've never. I've never thought about the side stories. LP O T L gmail.com can the liver of a 600 pound person be turned into foie gras?
Eddie Larson
Probably. I wouldn't try and eat any other part of them. But the liver.
Henry Zebrowski
Liver is. Is also considered to be the most nutritious part of any animal you could eat.
Eddie Larson
Well, that's why orcas are so this is my one gripe with orcas is that when they kill a great white shark, they only eat the Liver and then dispose of the rest of the body. Very wasteful. If they were. If the orcas were indigenous people, they'd be wasteful.
Henry Zebrowski
You know what? And.
Eddie Larson
But because they're orcas, we forgive it.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Because. And that's, to me, one of the glaring double standards we deal with as a country. And I feel. And that's why I'm actually really proudly. To be a part of a new society or my new group, where we're. Our goal is to just kind of randomly kill whales.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And just call where the whale colors.
Eddie Larson
How Japanese. Super Japanese.
Henry Zebrowski
That's why I wasn't. Bring my giant camera with me everywhere, and I got to take a million pictures of it, show no one, and
Eddie Larson
put it on Facebook. I also.
Henry Zebrowski
I film everything with my iPad.
Eddie Larson
Oh, you're so into it. I'm so Japanese.
Henry Zebrowski
I film everything with my iPad. It's pretty great. Welcome to Side Stories.
Eddie Larson
Oh, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
My name is Henry Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.
Eddie Larson
That's right. That's me. Now, we talked about switching sides, but then we didn't do it.
Henry Zebrowski
I. We did it for the other show.
Eddie Larson
Oh, it's for the movie Stories.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, I wanted to try.
Eddie Larson
Available on Sirius and Patreon.
Henry Zebrowski
It's available on Patreon. So if you already joined the Patreon, just go watch it over there. It's already on there.
Eddie Larson
It's great.
Henry Zebrowski
And so we. Yes. I. We switched it for that. Because I was watching a video with Tom Hanks that was really describing his. The concept of how people legitimately have good sides and bad sides.
Eddie Larson
I am facing my bad sides. The camera.
Henry Zebrowski
I know I am same. This is my bad.
Eddie Larson
I got this weird skin tag over here, and I got it. And I got a gap in my teeth over here.
Henry Zebrowski
This is my bad side. But the reason why we know this.
Eddie Larson
I got to get my tooth implant.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Eddie Larson
No one will be none the wiser.
Henry Zebrowski
Triple G. Triple G. That's unique.
Eddie Larson
What does that mean?
Henry Zebrowski
Big, old, big natural titty.
Eddie Larson
Oh, a natural titty. Yeah, in my mouth.
Henry Zebrowski
That's what you mean.
Eddie Larson
I need teeth.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, whatever, dude. Then you're calling the wrong guy, man.
Eddie Larson
Just always on your own little titty.
Henry Zebrowski
That's cute.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Who'd be busy? You know who is never gonna have a problem sucking on a titty?
Henry Zebrowski
Who?
Eddie Larson
Wonderful. Tom Holland.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, you're. You're.
Eddie Larson
You think Tom Holland's getting dumped.
Henry Zebrowski
I'm mad that we're even starting.
Eddie Larson
You. You. You brought this up earlier.
Henry Zebrowski
Okay. So this is fine. I Brought this up earlier. Right. So Zendaya and Tom Holland got secretly married. Right. But now do we know they did? Yeah, sort of.
Eddie Larson
I didn't know that's why you were talking about it.
Henry Zebrowski
She has been.
Eddie Larson
How do you sort of get secretly married?
Henry Zebrowski
It's a like a if to have. They haven't they kind of like he's
Eddie Larson
doing it for a green card.
Henry Zebrowski
I think he's doing it to keep Zendaya. Right. I think he's trying to hold on to Zendaya. And I think Zendaya is so, like. I think it's fine. Right. For a while she's been with Spider Man. She's like being with Spider Man. But that's the reason why I wanted to talk about this is because I think it's timely. Finally, time for Eddie and I to broach the topic of poly market. So you see, Eddie is not into gambling. It ruined his family. Or ruined his family. Ruined his life.
Eddie Larson
A lot of things ruined my family. But I'd say gambling was top two.
Henry Zebrowski
That was top two, right. For me. Father number one. Just Dad's existence. See, I'm not a gambler either. I don't like it. But then, you know, and this is not a paid advertisement for polymarket, because we'd be on a different channel, we'd be making a lot, we'd be waking up, we'd be making more money. But this, so. But I thought it was like, this is a good thing to maybe even use it for in case you want money on. This is my insider tip to those. Whoa.
Eddie Larson
What happened?
Henry Zebrowski
My chair collapsed.
Eddie Larson
Oh, it did? Wow. Hold on. Is this how short you're supposed to be?
Henry Zebrowski
No.
Eddie Larson
No wonder you wanted to change sides.
Henry Zebrowski
Why my chair collapsed?
Eddie Larson
I don't know, man.
Henry Zebrowski
Why my chair collapsed.
Eddie Larson
Sounds like too many different.
Henry Zebrowski
We're here now. I'm so small. I'm stuck on this chair. The chair fell down.
Eddie Larson
Adjust the camera.
Henry Zebrowski
No, it's important for me to do this from this place. Okay. Because I'm punching.
Eddie Larson
I went down too.
Henry Zebrowski
No, I'm not trump slap you. As I said. So I. So I figured this is an insider tip for people out here because no one likes insider trading.
Eddie Larson
You always look at the world, but.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah, I don't hate it. Yeah. It makes you angry, right? Yeah. You're ready to. To attack. But my insider tip is that if you want to go and put a bet on a poly market, all right, you want to make money, I would say you're going to go and you're going to Bet Zendaya is going to leave Tom Holland within the next year. I mean, this. You're going to set this up. You're going to put $10,000 on it. You're going to make so much money. Because you know why I know that? And you know how I know that? Tom Holland's hairline. I look at it. He's becoming British. The second. The second he becomes British, she's gone. We got on the pod, he turns into the British man. He's going to be. We all saw what happened to cute Prince Andrew.
Eddie Larson
I mean, we saw what happened. Pulls him in.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, he's got heavy cosmetic surgery done.
Eddie Larson
He looks horrible.
Henry Zebrowski
He is. He's had.
Eddie Larson
Jude Law looks pretty bad.
Henry Zebrowski
Jude Law has had his whole scalp reconstructed, like, three times.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So, dude, this is happening. This is what I'm just saying. This is my call out to you.
Eddie Larson
Is this going to happen to Marcus? Yes. Wow.
Henry Zebrowski
He's gonna get British.
Eddie Larson
He's gonna get British.
Henry Zebrowski
No. Well, he's not full. He's still American, So he's still naturally handsome.
Eddie Larson
So once your family's been here for multiple generations, you stay handsome. That's. But if you stay over there. Oh, it's the not.
Henry Zebrowski
It's no fluoride. You're cute.
Eddie Larson
You're cute.
Henry Zebrowski
No, you know, they. No, they don't have fluoride anymore. They're rid of it. The thing about British guys is that they're cute. They're cute, they're cute, they're cute. Then they turn British.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And then all of a sudden, it's, oh, hello, miss. I simply can't find my. My wrinkled cream for my.
Eddie Larson
My shins.
Henry Zebrowski
He is going to literally receive sock garters in the mail. Like a British man can't even keep his socks up.
Eddie Larson
Really.
Henry Zebrowski
You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying here. Tom Holland is going to get to that point. His legs are going to become really skinny.
Eddie Larson
They're very thin now.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Oh, he's going to get skinnier and stranger. And that's my. That's my bet.
Eddie Larson
See, I think Tom Holland's going to stay a cute little boy.
Henry Zebrowski
I don't think he ever.
Eddie Larson
I think he's already. Tom Holland's what, like 33, 34. And he's adorable.
Henry Zebrowski
He's gonna.
Eddie Larson
You can put him in your pocket.
Henry Zebrowski
He's gonna go British any day of the week.
Eddie Larson
I don't think so.
Henry Zebrowski
I think any day now he's going,
Eddie Larson
this is why they got married. It's gonna be Very hard for. He's only 30. He's only 30, okay.
Henry Zebrowski
No, he's gonna be British very, very soon, and then she's gonna full decade
Eddie Larson
before he turns British.
Henry Zebrowski
Guess what she gets now.
Eddie Larson
Half.
Henry Zebrowski
Half Spider Man. She gets half Spider Man?
Eddie Larson
Well, he gets half a dude.
Henry Zebrowski
No, she does. He gets jack shit. He gets nothing. What are you talking about? She's gonna strip him of his life. She's gonna take half of his stuff, and then he's gonna end up dating like, Casey Anthony.
Eddie Larson
See, I think. I think Zendaya is too classy to do any of this stuff. I think she's. I think she's a. I think she's on the level.
Henry Zebrowski
I think that's really good. So you're betting on. You're betting that they'll stay together?
Eddie Larson
Well, here's the deal. If you bet on the poly market, if they stay together, then when do you win?
Henry Zebrowski
When one of them dies.
Eddie Larson
That makes. I'm not going to live that long. These people are going to outlive me by 30, 40 years.
Henry Zebrowski
Some bad could happen to him. There's a bubble around her that's following
Eddie Larson
the two of these.
Henry Zebrowski
They go like, I am still saddened by the loss of Oliver Tree. All it's going to take is one fucking helicopter ride and she's out.
Eddie Larson
I don't know. They seem too responsible.
Henry Zebrowski
I know that they would probably. I imagine that they would throw out other people to save Zendaya. I imagine that Zendaya will be saved at cost.
Eddie Larson
The only way I could see this happening is if Tom Holland, like, foregoes his own life to save hers.
Henry Zebrowski
Like Spider Man.
Eddie Larson
I could see him dying like Spider man for her life.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, that's the only way. I mean, that's the only way. She's married.
Eddie Larson
He's like one of the only good Brits.
Henry Zebrowski
She's only marrying him so that he will die earlier than her.
Eddie Larson
You think that? Yeah, I mean, he's definitely going to die earlier than her.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, that's all men.
Eddie Larson
She's going to live forever.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Zendaya's. She's like, incredible. She's going to live.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. No, she's a redwood. No, she's Chihuahua. In my mind.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
She's gonna go 125 years old.
Eddie Larson
But she's tall, though, right?
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, sure.
Eddie Larson
I don't know. She just looks tall. He's probably short.
Henry Zebrowski
He's super tiny.
Eddie Larson
He's tiny. That's why she looks tall. Yep, they're both tiny.
Henry Zebrowski
They're super small.
Eddie Larson
I think they're gonna be happy forever. I hope so.
Henry Zebrowski
You know what? I just want to make money, and I want our people to make money.
Eddie Larson
So I put it like I want.
Henry Zebrowski
This is about the audience, Eddie. This is not about me. It's about the audience and giving them a good tip to go out and do. All guys talk about.
Eddie Larson
The audience has an extra ten grand to lay down on Weather's. And I. Tom Holland, sell your stuff.
Henry Zebrowski
So sell your thing. I see. But there's other cash in your 401k. Put it on this.
Eddie Larson
You know, it's interesting. I'm looking. So I searched. This doesn't exist in the poly market right now. You.
Henry Zebrowski
That's what I'm saying.
Eddie Larson
You would have to invent this in order for it to exist. I searched. There are 103 results for Tom Holland Zadia Divorce. And the. The top one that comes out that makes me interested is Margot Robbie divorce by June 30th at 1%.
Henry Zebrowski
Wow.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, there's all.
Henry Zebrowski
I could see that.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. You know.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, I could see that.
Eddie Larson
There's all kinds of these in here. But the more interesting thing on the poly market that I saw is
Henry Zebrowski
just
Eddie Larson
like you could bet on who's going to be the president.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, you can bet. You can bet. No, we have.
Eddie Larson
This is insane to me.
Henry Zebrowski
We're off the rails right now, Eddie. Yeah, we're off the rails into a bunch of new things right now, Eddie. And that's why I was trying to give him more innocent bets.
Eddie Larson
You know, Ghana is only a 5% on the poly market against England in the World cup today.
Henry Zebrowski
But do you think that it would change if you could wear your Ghana jersey?
Eddie Larson
So I bought. I bought a Ghana jersey, and I
Henry Zebrowski
don't know if I'm allowed to wear it or not.
Eddie Larson
It's one of those drunken. I thought I was being cool and bought. So I don't care about soccer, football, World Cup.
Henry Zebrowski
You love Africa.
Eddie Larson
I hate FIFA and I love Africa. And I love. I love the music more than anything else we do.
Henry Zebrowski
And, Jack, that is true of all of the people that you would say. I mean, obviously, Eddie, again, he did the mc, the Parliament Funkadelic, you know, that's the closest he ever got to being a black person. But also, Eddie lives the most African. Like, you listen to an extreme amount of African music.
Eddie Larson
It's. It's. It's what? It's my favorite music right now. I can't get enough of it. I'm obsessed with Ebo Taylor.
Henry Zebrowski
You know what I've been obsessed with Vietnamese funk.
Eddie Larson
It's really good.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Eddie Larson
I got a Cambodian record I'll have to share with you. Yeah, you're gonna love it. You're gonna go crazy.
Henry Zebrowski
It's the ones where they go,
Eddie Larson
stop. It's a little funkier than that. But see, so I'm, so I've been obsessed with Ebo Taylor, who died last year. RIP Ebo. He was 90 something. I got to see him. But jazz is dead, which is my favorite, like, Jazz company out here, other than Blue Note. They, they put out this Ghana soccer jersey, but it has Ebo's name on the back. Oh, cool. I think it's very cool. So I bought it and then I put it on. I'm like, I'm gonna get beat up.
Henry Zebrowski
You know, you could be South African, but not Ghana's.
Eddie Larson
Not South Africa, but. And they don't like them there. They don't like the, they don't, they don't like the Afrikaans in Africa.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, let's send this to side story
Eddie Larson
where I spent too much money on this jersey. Am I allowed to wear it? Can I? Or do I have to donate it? Do I have to find someone from Ghana and give him the coolest gift ever?
Henry Zebrowski
See, I honestly, I think that he can celebrate it, but I think this is, well, very similar to our lines about whether or not I'm allowed to dress up Wendy and Carmi as a incredible icons of Black history for Black History Month for a photo shoot I got. I feel like it's in the same way where a lot of people felt that actually was quite a beautiful celebration.
Eddie Larson
I think it's nice. I think you should do that next year. And I'll, I'll help you. But. All right, so Google AI says anyone, regardless of race or background, can wear a Ghana soccer jersey in public.
Henry Zebrowski
That's because the AI kind of races.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Yeah. Accept it as casual street wear or a symbol of appreciation for a sport and the country.
Henry Zebrowski
I, I, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I also wore the shiki for two years.
Eddie Larson
Yes, but that. You look great.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes.
Eddie Larson
I wish you could still wear it, but we know you shouldn't.
Henry Zebrowski
I feel that it's starting to come.
Eddie Larson
The soccer jersey is the Tashiki Gateway.
Henry Zebrowski
It's starting to be. Yes. Because my problem right now is that I'm about a 48 inch chest. I am getting to the point where I'm gonna have to start wearing dashikis again.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Big tits.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, it's good. I think you look good, though. So England. I'm going for Ghana. Wow. This all came full circle because Tom Holland.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Wow. We're really good.
Eddie Larson
Circle. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
We're really good at podcasting.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Yeah. You uk. I'm going gotta. By the time this comes out, you guys would have crushed them, I'm sure.
Henry Zebrowski
Possibly. But we also. But again, it's a safe bet, so I would say go and make that bet.
Eddie Larson
It's not a safe bet. It's only 5%.
Henry Zebrowski
We'll make that bet. I mean, on Tom Holland and Zendaya.
Eddie Larson
Oh, that.
Henry Zebrowski
It's a good bet.
Eddie Larson
That's a good bet.
Henry Zebrowski
All right, here we go.
Eddie Larson
I like the poly market.
Henry Zebrowski
I know. No, we don't really like the poly market. We just thought it would be funny to use money and cynically to decide whether or not love is enough.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And use that on polymarket. That would be really fun. All right, all right.
Eddie Larson
You convinced me. I'm gonna wear the jersey now. I can't wear it. I was gonna say, if it's for
Henry Zebrowski
a joke, then I think you're allowed to.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, no, it's not a joke.
Henry Zebrowski
I legitimately, if you have a good
Eddie Larson
joke to go along with it, you're allowed.
Henry Zebrowski
But also. Yeah, but why does it feel weirder for you to wear a Japanese one? Right.
Eddie Larson
Well, because I don't give a fuck about them.
Henry Zebrowski
I'm just from saying any, but I'm just saying, like, for me, it'd be weirder. I think it's because of my past.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Like, if I were to wear a Japanese one, people like, oh, we're. Oh, I know what he's doing.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I don't have, like, a Ghana Larson character in my past,
Henry Zebrowski
and that's why we're introducing it now. If we could, I'd love to hear a little bit from Ghana Larson.
Eddie Larson
Hi. How you doing? I'm just a regular guy. I moved here.
Henry Zebrowski
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Eddie Larson
From your grave. All right. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So I made you watch this documentary on Netflix.
Eddie Larson
Man, I was not. I did not want to watch it. And boy, oh boy, was I eating it up.
Henry Zebrowski
It was.
Eddie Larson
It is upsetting.
Henry Zebrowski
Natalie doesn't like it when I'm watching one of these and I'm like, ooh, this is good. She's just like, everyone's dead, though. Yeah, I know, but I like it. So we watch on Netflix, we watch this new documentary called Maternal Instinct, which is based off a story that came out in 2022.
Eddie Larson
Did y'?
Henry Zebrowski
All.
Eddie Larson
In 2020? It happened.
Henry Zebrowski
That's when it happened. But then I believe it got all the coverage in like 2022.
Eddie Larson
And did you cover it on side stories? Do you remember?
Henry Zebrowski
Like, I think at time we thought it was too dark, but now.
Eddie Larson
Side stories.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. But now I don't care anymore.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So this is a. This is a story that is. I mean, it's wild because it involves one of my truly, like a topic that I'm fascinated with inside of true crime and weirdo thought, which is malingering and fake. Like pathological lying.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And malingering specifically is people that pretend to be sick in order to get some kind of clout. Like, weird, weird.
Eddie Larson
I never understood it.
Henry Zebrowski
It's very interesting because sometimes they'll do it for nothing at all. Like, there's a story of an Australian woman that faked having cancer. And it got so huge like that. Like the story, there's another story about this woman who faked that her husband died in 9 11. And then she worked her way into this 911 victims group, this like, victims advocacy group, and then legitimately then worked her way through all these weird political machinations within it and like ousted the former leader and did all this meanwhile, like, everything was a lie.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And there's something about pathological liars I find fascinating.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Terrifying. Hard.
Eddie Larson
It is. It's. It's just. I don't. It's so. To me, to lie that much is just so stressful.
Henry Zebrowski
Harder. And then we've also known. I mean, you know, I don't think I'm talking too out of school here. I've known several pathological liars.
Eddie Larson
They exist in everyone's life.
Henry Zebrowski
But I also, I've known reformed pathological liars which I'm all about. And I think they're really interesting, too. That's just as interesting to me, hearing them talk about why they did what they did, you know, and largely it's to. To get along with the Joneses.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Sometimes it's just because you want attention. And largely it is. It's literally like a lot of them have to get on medication, talk therapy, in order to really talk about why they do what they do, which largely comes from a sense of I'm not enough.
Eddie Larson
I feel like you're allowed to lie until you're 18.
Henry Zebrowski
I think that this is. There's. We all have those. Right. Everybody had the.
Eddie Larson
When I was young, I lied.
Henry Zebrowski
Everybody did.
Eddie Larson
Every.
Henry Zebrowski
Every child lies and like, you know, like childlike lies. Like the thing where they do that. You know, when you come in, the one kid's lying about going to Europe for the summer or.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Or that their dad invented Velcro.
Eddie Larson
I met a cute girl on a cruise once.
Henry Zebrowski
Of course. Didn't.
Eddie Larson
That I. Which was a girl that I saw that I thought was pretty.
Henry Zebrowski
And then you. You're a kid. You get over it.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But some people don't get over it.
Eddie Larson
It.
Henry Zebrowski
And I do think that it's. Sometimes what happens is that your pathological lying will then not even be your issue. It's actually something else. Because you'll do extreme things to try to make your lie be real. Yeah. And that, to me is like, even more interesting than just lying. Yeah.
Eddie Larson
Because trying to make it so much harder.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes, it's just trying to make it real. But. So this story is about Taylor Parker
Eddie Larson
and the new documentary, Maternal Instinct. It is a news story, so the new. It is out there.
Henry Zebrowski
But.
Eddie Larson
But if you want to see the doc, some spoilers ahead there.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, there's spoilers, but the story has been out there. But. And there's. There's more to it. So.
Eddie Larson
It's a great doc.
Henry Zebrowski
It is. Taylor Parker is 26. Was 27. Two years old. This is in 2020, when she was 27. And then she seemed to have like. She's kind of living two lives. One in which he was a single mom that had two kids that she just sort of like, didn't pay attention to.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. They're just. It kind of existed. No one ever saw them.
Henry Zebrowski
And this. This lady.
Eddie Larson
One came around and the other one wouldn't.
Henry Zebrowski
And Taylor seems to be the type of person that would friend group pretty easily. And then she met this other new guy and. And you kind of thought like, oh, you Know, like whatever. And then the story is like, oh, she gets pregnant with this guy and then, oh, she's gonna be saved by him. But that's not the story.
Eddie Larson
The most naive man in history.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, I would say you say naive. I say checked the out. Yeah, I think is both, I guess. I think that guy was head. That guy was just like, I don't even know what. What's happening here. So this isn't this out of New Boston, Texas. This is the middle of nowhere. Taylor Parker. The crime she would go on to commit is that she would fake being pregnant up until 10 months in her pregnancy. And then she would, in a moment of pure manic delusion, stab and mutilate her quote, unquote best friend who was pregnant with the baby. Cut the baby out of her using 94 different varied cuts after watching C section videos on YouTube and then tried to fake the baby as her own. And the baby. And her best friend Reagan died in the process. She's now in jail and she has got the fucking death penalty in Texas. The old. The sixth woman to ever receive the death penalty sentence and she is still there. We know they are trying to figure out something about her mental state, blah, blah, blah. But this, the story is like. That's all I heard originally was just that this woman had faked being pregnant and she cut the baby out of somebody else. And then I saw the body cam footage of her, that of which you can see in the documentary, but it was all over the Internet where she sees she's all shaky and crying and covered in blood. And she's close to the.
Eddie Larson
She's really not covered in that much blood.
Henry Zebrowski
No, she must have changed and washed herself. Did she? Did we know that she did.
Eddie Larson
Okay.
Henry Zebrowski
And so she was. She had blood on her. She was saying, oh my God, I gave birth in my car. And this, the cop is like, oh my God. They get the baby in and the second they're all at the hospital, everybody knows that there's something wrong.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, but isn't she like wearing jeans?
Henry Zebrowski
Yes.
Eddie Larson
She's just like the most basic level you don't give. You don't put your jeans back on after you give birth on the side of the road.
Henry Zebrowski
God knows what this. I mean, obviously she wasn't in the right mind, Eddie. And so they went and they talk about. They talk with her about this and she's just all like, what do you mean I didn't have a baby? And that doctor, that doctor.
Eddie Larson
Doctor is my favorite character in the whole thing.
Henry Zebrowski
When he Comes and he's like, ain't no way baby came out of that.
Eddie Larson
Yeah,
Henry Zebrowski
your first thing. You first. No, no baby. Let me go check and see if baby coming in. Let me look.
Eddie Larson
Well, because
Henry Zebrowski
a no baby in there. Like, it's just like a mechanic.
Eddie Larson
It is one of those things where it's like, you know, she let it go all the. The lie go all the way to having her checked. Like she let this lie go all. I mean, she had to have known that when the doctor like looks under that dress, they're going to be like,
Henry Zebrowski
okay, so let's take it all the way back.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So it starts with Taylor Parker. It starts in high school. It starts with her. She's a little bit of a chubby girl, self conscious. Her friend said that the thing that she would do though, very casually is that she would say, give me a naked picture of you from your chin down. I'm talking to a guy. Or like, what the you talking about, Taylor? You just being like, I'm going to go, I want them to like me now. I want to show them on these pictures.
Eddie Larson
It's.
Henry Zebrowski
They're like, so what's going to happen when he sees you? She had no answer. Right. And so she started catfishing guys and then the guy show up and then it blow up. And that was like one thing. So that's kind of the next thing it started. Then it starts with. She's starting to have health issues. Right.
Eddie Larson
So she did get the nudes.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Sometimes crazy girls are weird.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
They're young.
Eddie Larson
Right.
Henry Zebrowski
They have no idea. Right.
Eddie Larson
So she is.
Henry Zebrowski
Taylor now is. She gets a new group of friends and she is starting to do the chronic illness, like dive, right. She's starting to say, oh, I'm getting this. Yeah. Oh, I'm feeling faint. Everything kind of becomes about her health, right. Like comes and kind of about all these kind of things. And eventually she comes and tells her friend, I have Ms. They actually diagnosed me with Ms. And they're like, oh my God. Everybody gets together and she's like, oh, you know, a couple months after that, that it's like, actually also I just got diagnosed with cancer. And they're like, oh my God. And they go and they, they get. She gets the baby come out. And she made up all these things about how she had. Because she ended up getting pregnant at 17 and getting pregnant with another baby. And after she had that baby and do all this. This health stuff started happening. She basically said, oh, we're having issues with your. Like the baby came out and at first she was like, oh, you know, I got my tubes tied. That's what she wanted. She came up with this, like, thing about how at 21 years old, she went to the doctors and said, tie my tubes. I'm not having any more babies. And they're all like, why? Why are you doing this? Is so young. And she's just like, I don't care. No more babies. And so they. They went and they tied her tubes up and then gave her a hysterectomy. Well, because she end up having an egg tech. What do they call an ectotropic. What's that? That term of a pregnant pregnancy that gets caught.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
In a tube after she'd gotten her tubes tied.
Eddie Larson
That's right.
Henry Zebrowski
She got her. She got pregnant with it and showed she needed to have a hysterectomy. So she got the hysterectomy pulled out of her. Now she's just like this kind of like, whatever, normal person, but she's also
Eddie Larson
been call it a hysterectomy, by the way.
Henry Zebrowski
Thank you. You're right.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. You know, right. That's what I. You know, what are we even doing here?
Henry Zebrowski
A woman's directomy.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Thank you. You're right. You're right. I'm sorry.
Eddie Larson
Even though it's a man doing was. They interviewed him. That's my.
Henry Zebrowski
That's his director.
Eddie Larson
It's my direct. That's mine. I did that.
Henry Zebrowski
I popped that out. I popped the whole thing out. I took out the transmission. I took out the whole thing. I dropped in a new load.
Eddie Larson
I broug the taxidermist. I put it on the wall.
Henry Zebrowski
I did what I need to do. That's a man, dude.
Eddie Larson
It's right next to my deer heads. There's my dear uterus.
Henry Zebrowski
So this is also where she started talking about how, like, she was. Had a fallout with her mom. And her mom was this heir to a fortune that would go from syrup to oil to. She said salt. Salt. She said that her parents were the Morton salt cult family. All this kind of.
Eddie Larson
Your name should be Morton if you're going to tell that lie.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. So she burns through a series of friends with all of these crazy lies. So she moves away, and not too
Eddie Larson
far, but far enough.
Henry Zebrowski
Like three hours.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So she moves away from her little town and she goes to her first rodeo. And so at the time, what she did was that because she had. Because she had gained all. She had all this weight. And then what happened? She had lost all the weight. Then she kind of went Crazy. And then she kind of got weird and all that kind of. Right?
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
At this point now she's doing the I want a man to settle down with.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And I want a country man. I want a big, strong country man.
Eddie Larson
She's a new Boston 8. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean for the territory. For, you know, like, you know, I think so. I think she's ugly inside and out.
Henry Zebrowski
But see, normally I can separate the two.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Because I'm wise like that. So normally, like, even those evil woman, I can figure out if she's hot.
Eddie Larson
I'm not attracted to her. But I'm saying for the territory. For a. A man who collects hogs for a living, I think she's beautiful.
Henry Zebrowski
That's his job. That's his job. And not only does he collect hogs as a job, apparently also does it in his personal life. So this guy was the name of Wade Griffin.
Eddie Larson
Right.
Henry Zebrowski
So she saw this guy, this, this amateur rodeo. And he's a hog trapper, big boy. And I would also say a little bit not, not. He's not dumb, but he's very country and doesn't ask a heck of a lot of questions. Right? Yeah. So she insinuates herself into Wade's life. She starts pretending to be somebody else. So he's like so surprised that she wants to slop the hogs and she wants to jerk off the tractor and she wants to slam the chickens. I don't know what they do. They mil. They do some something, right.
Eddie Larson
He's like a woman kind of likes me. I'm in.
Henry Zebrowski
But and also in his idea too, because he was just like. Cuz some women, some men in the country world, they like, tell me if I'm right or wrong side stories. Lpotl gmail.com. but I think I'm correct. I think sometimes a big country man almost wishes he could be with a man. Because she wishes that. Because he was like, here's the first time I met a lady couldn't care about the country. She liked the mud, she liked the dog. She like lifting the trucks. And it's like, yeah, no, you like. You want a man, dude. You want to be married to a fucking man.
Eddie Larson
It's a country girl, a girl raised on a farm.
Henry Zebrowski
Someone who could change a tire. But he's specifically saying, you can't find that in the way that you find it because she's lying to him, Eddie. She's doing the thing where she's pretending to be super country to get this man right.
Eddie Larson
I feel like if you could find her anywhere, she's in New Boston.
Henry Zebrowski
No, the problem is I think that Wade wanted her to not. Not look like him.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And I think that's the issue is that when you get a lady that wants to slope, wants to slap him up, wants to live. Oh, I like her. She could lift a horse on her back.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
You mean like, that's the kind of lady.
Eddie Larson
Julie's gorgeous and she runs my backyard.
Henry Zebrowski
Diamond in the rough, founder in California.
Eddie Larson
I found her in New York.
Henry Zebrowski
But then you brought her here.
Eddie Larson
You trafficked her hair. Right.
Henry Zebrowski
They wouldn't be able to do it. So they, they're geared together. Right? They, you know, whatever. So. So this woman then tells him, guess what, baby, I'm about to inherit $8 million. This is what. They're together. They've been together for two months. And he's like, no. And she's just like, not only that, we're go, I'm making every one of your dreams come true. She buys him a $100,000 car, she buys him the house, she buys his
Eddie Larson
mama car, a hog ranch in Oklahoma, everything.
Henry Zebrowski
And the ranch too, was like, they set it all up and they went and they.
Eddie Larson
Toward it.
Henry Zebrowski
It was this four million dollar property. And she's saying, oh, we're gonna. I'm gon cash. And the. She's doing it to make the family jealous. The family's all like, damn. When they show that video and they're like, wow, I guess you guys gonna be living a whole new life.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, they had like a whole presentation over Christmas. Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
And she was just like, yes, we are. We absolutely are. And then the thing is, is that the guys that went to go look at the real estate people, they started looking into go like, okay, $4 million cash. Absolutely, we'll set that up for you. All right now.
Eddie Larson
Exactly.
Henry Zebrowski
And so they.
Eddie Larson
Because they also come from a part country where like your millionaires look like they do.
Henry Zebrowski
That's what they were. They were like, we specifically deal with the clientele that you would not make. But if you were to judge your book by your cover, you wouldn't think that they could own multiple million dollar properties. Yeah, it's like, no, they do, because
Eddie Larson
they're all wearing jeans and they're dirty and they're.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah, they're in. They have agricultural money. They got that agromarian money.
Eddie Larson
Real money.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, yeah, Real money.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And so they go. And so go. They go to check it in and they're like, no one's ever heard of her. And then her, the representative of the oil trust fund. Which is really funny because they work for shell company and her name was Shelly.
Eddie Larson
Yes. No, it's definitely. It lacks any sort of creativity.
Henry Zebrowski
Like her. Wasn't her lawyer called like Bill Longington? Yeah. Long 10 or fake lawyer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is hilarious. It's my improv. Right. It's so funny. And so while all this is like, the money's now starting to happen, they're starting to default on all things they're supposed to pay for.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Now that it's happening, they repossess the mother's car. They start being like, oh, you can't. You don't have the money for this. You don't have the money.
Eddie Larson
She only had it for a couple months because she showed up with a brand new like Camry or some. A sedan.
Henry Zebrowski
It's all on credit. Every single thing was on credit. Yeah, she just got. Whatever. And she financed it. She just put money down. She financed it.
Eddie Larson
And so, so seemed like she was good at paperwork.
Henry Zebrowski
It's. It's. Or. Yeah. Or lying to somebody who's just looking to get the down payment. And then they'll figure it out after the.
Eddie Larson
I mean, this is how the housing market collapsed.
Henry Zebrowski
That's what happened. So when this started, when this house of Cardstone fallen, she tells Wade, actually, I'm pregnant. Now, they've been together three months. She, for some reason has decided that she needs to keep Wade. And the only way she's going to do this is by telling her. Telling him she's pregnant. And they know for a fact anybody that had noticed her knew that she could not be pregnant.
Eddie Larson
Well, from her past.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. So she had reinvented herself in this new world. And the thing about Wade is that he's just not curious.
Eddie Larson
He just wants to take. He wants to go to work and he wants to work his ass off and he wants to come home, he wants to go to sleep.
Henry Zebrowski
But in the way he kind of put his. Like. Yeah, she kind of said she was pregnant or whatever. And we went to look at all, you know, I was like, well, I guess it's going to be done how it's going to be done, you know, like, he's like, it takes a dude
Eddie Larson
like Wade to fall for this type of.
Henry Zebrowski
Absolutely.
Eddie Larson
Because it's like, you know, you're not going to doctor's appointments. You're not going to all that well.
Henry Zebrowski
He kept me, like, I tried to go, but then she'd say, I, you know, like I was busy or there was something Going on, and I just didn't go. And he never went to any one of the ultrasounds. He never went to any one of the doctor's appointments. Because there weren't any.
Eddie Larson
Because there weren't any.
Henry Zebrowski
And then he.
Eddie Larson
But also, to me, this is where he kind of sucks.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes.
Eddie Larson
Because, like, if I'm having a baby, which I'm not. If I'm having a baby, I'm going to these goddamn appointments. I'm worried about the baby.
Henry Zebrowski
He's fully checked out, and he doesn't want to be there. He doesn't want to be there. He stops liking her almost immediately. He was not into it. And she kept him with the baby. She loved, bombed him. Then she kept him with a baby. And his entire family from the get is like, she's not pregnant.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And they didn't know she couldn't be pregnant, but they're all like, she's not pregnant. She's lying to you.
Eddie Larson
She's not showing for, like, five months, six months.
Henry Zebrowski
So she starts pretending.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. She buys the bump.
Henry Zebrowski
She buys that fake baby bump. She buys something that makes it look like it's kicking. Yeah. Yeah. She buys something that looks, like, devious. Right. And then it's. The months are going. They plan that gender reveal, which made me want to blow my brains out.
Eddie Larson
Or they brought out a cow instead of a bull.
Henry Zebrowski
I just. I'm so sick. All the gender reveal stuff.
Eddie Larson
It's just.
Henry Zebrowski
I'm so sight. So sick of all these. Everybody's just filling everybody filled with karma. I'm so sick. Everybody swollen with karma. And so there you go.
Eddie Larson
I hate gender reveals. They're stupid. I don't think I'll ever go to one.
Henry Zebrowski
I don't. Well, we're past that. I think.
Eddie Larson
I don't think there's any reason to go. Go to a gender reveal because I honestly, I don't care what gender your child is.
Henry Zebrowski
No.
Eddie Larson
Have the. Have the baby. I want it to be healthy. I think we should have a healthy reveal. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Would that be nice?
Eddie Larson
Yeah. It's got one head. Hey. How about that?
Henry Zebrowski
So this is this. So this whole story is crazy. So in the meantime, like, Taylor is, like, faking, like, because she has no money, she's faking doing all these various things for. For work. So one thing she did, which is the. One of the big pavilions of grifters, which we've talked about on this show forever, the photographer. She created a fake photography thing where she's like, oh, I'm a professional photographer, and you have to understand, all you really need to be a professional photographer is a website and a camera. Like, and then someone to pay you. And then magically you become a professional photographer.
Eddie Larson
Exactly. Someone has to believe you're good at your job.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. So her best friend, how she met her, was that she had hired her to be her wedding photographer.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And so she was the. And she took a bunch of super mediocre pictures of her wedding.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And the lady loved them. And they just. The two of them got together.
Eddie Larson
I mean, also this woman, Reagan seems like the kindest, most.
Henry Zebrowski
Just the most open hearted, nice woman.
Eddie Larson
Like, she died from kindness.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. She was just such a truly sweet woman. And this woman just destroyed or obviously destroyed her life. And so By October of 2020, everybody had already assumed the fake miscarriage story was going to happen.
Eddie Larson
This is all during the height. The beginning of COVID too.
Henry Zebrowski
It can only have happened during COVID
Eddie Larson
Yeah, that's doctors appointments. You can only, like, you can't go in because of COVID She used it
Henry Zebrowski
as a smokescreen for the whole fucking thing. And so they. They go. And so two weeks past her dude due date. It's now three weeks past her due date. A full 10 months.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Of the baby cooking. Right. They don't even go to get the baby. Like, that's what I just don't even understand. I was like how in the living. We're not at the. Not at the hospital within that first week to get the baby taken out or. Or do anything.
Eddie Larson
There's only one person in my lifetime that I've known that's gone more than nine months.
Henry Zebrowski
Like, you just want it out of you or you want to. Yeah. You want to get it out.
Eddie Larson
Induce like whatever.
Henry Zebrowski
So many things.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Right. And so they waited until finally the very last minute. And the thing was is that her friend. Which is like she'd done this before every time her friend had got pregnant. And when she. When Reagan had gotten pregnant, she was obsessed with it. Right. All over her.
Eddie Larson
Like, all over.
Henry Zebrowski
Which is how her first group kind of fell apart, was that she kind of glommed onto a person's baby shower and baby experience.
Eddie Larson
She's obsessed with it.
Henry Zebrowski
She's obsessed with. Even though she has two kids she's barely raising.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
That they're off somewhere. They're literally just gone.
Eddie Larson
That dude certainly had nothing to do with the documentary.
Henry Zebrowski
No, no. He wants to never hear her name ever again.
Eddie Larson
Because, I mean, talk about someone who dodged a bullet.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, yes. And I guess it's also too. It Is just the constant way just a. How's I supposed to know?
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
I don't know. And so eventually she would, in this moment of desperation, decide to kill her best friend, steal the baby and pop it out of her. I just don't understand when the lies get to be that big. I know it's a psychological problem. It's like a mental illness.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But I just don't understand. Like, there were so many off ramps.
Eddie Larson
I mean, to get to murder, like, you have to kill someone I love.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes.
Eddie Larson
For me to get to murder. And then probably won't even then. You know, like, it's like, I'll still go to the police.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes.
Eddie Larson
You know, like, it's like, it's like. So to get to murder, you're just evil.
Henry Zebrowski
And just the fact that they all did not straight up, no one wanted to dig deep enough into this issue.
Eddie Larson
Well, that's because his friend, the people who did, their friends, when they approached Wade with, he cut him out of his life.
Henry Zebrowski
And just.
Eddie Larson
He's like, this my wife. This is my child. You know, you're talking this.
Henry Zebrowski
You know, I would love to put it out there.
Eddie Larson
That was my favorite guy, his friend that was always in the camouflage. I really like that guy.
Henry Zebrowski
I felt so bad for him. That guy had no business being mixed
Eddie Larson
up in all this because he was just like. Cuz his wife knew something was fishy. All night she's going. And he's just like, will you stop? Will you please just stop? We gotta go to sleep. But she was right.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, because every time I loved his attitude because it was like, listen, I don't want to get into another conspiracy theory, all right? That kind of makes sense. Yeah. I don't.
Eddie Larson
All right.
Henry Zebrowski
I want to stop all this. We're fighting this.
Eddie Larson
What? What?
Henry Zebrowski
Wait a second.
Eddie Larson
What?
Henry Zebrowski
Like every single time. And it's like he's at least being like, oh, no. Because he keeps trying to get to his buddy. And Wade is just like, you know, they're just the men. Examine your lives. Yeah, that is the. That's the key here, guys. Examine your life. Don't let just things just happen to you.
Eddie Larson
Also, it's just like Wade, you know, Wade definitely sucks. Or he's stupid.
Henry Zebrowski
I think more so than anything, he's stupid.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, yeah. It's. I think it's one of the other. But like to throw your friends away for a person you don't even like.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, you barely even know. Well, because it's this idea that. Because the problem getting is probably this. Is this idea that. Well, now she's the mother of my child. Like, no, dude, she just caught some gunk, bro.
Eddie Larson
Also just.
Henry Zebrowski
She just did it.
Eddie Larson
I think it's insecure big boy disease, too.
Henry Zebrowski
It is.
Eddie Larson
You think you're never gonna find another person because you're a big boy and
Henry Zebrowski
that she's kind of cute. And so he thought. And because she does all the dumb hog stuff. Yeah, because she's kind of cute and she does all the hog stuff and she doesn't also have a mustache. Yeah, that's why he wants to stay.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, exactly.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. But he doesn't understand. It's not enough, y'. All.
Eddie Larson
It really isn't.
Henry Zebrowski
It's not enough, y' all to stay. Unless, of course, they're going to teach you how to run a cult. And that's the problem is, like, they never do unless you get involved with Peter Teal.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Oh, my God.
Henry Zebrowski
Let's do this. Let's get into this next story.
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Henry Zebrowski
This next story is going to reverberate for the next several years and we're going to have no real idea what's happening inside of this story probably ever.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, but we finally got some proof that the fucking like the Illuminati exists. In a weird way, that's what this is. Right.
Henry Zebrowski
The worst part about that. This is I think it actually proves something that we've been talking about a long time. Which is the capital I Illuminati never existed. But our current group of loser billionaires are trying to create one.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And it's not working.
Eddie Larson
So this is past Bohemian Grove. This is crazier.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, who knows? Who knows? So it is just come out. It came out on Friday, huge expose on Peter Thiel through Wired magazine.
Eddie Larson
Good job Wired.
Henry Zebrowski
Good work. About this secret group he put together called Dialogue and the. It is. It's like. So first of all, Dialogue has had its website and its membership secret ever since it was made. I think it was in 2006. Yeah, 2006. And we have had no idea what's in there or what they do. Right.
Eddie Larson
A 20 year old tech oligarch crew.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. So Peter Thiel, every year and I guess last year, year for the very first time they have. They're now constructing a permanent campus in
Eddie Larson
D.C. around D.C. yes. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So this is going to happen. As we see, the construction work in D.C. is going really well.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So I think it's going to think that's going to be a banger. You know. And so Peter Thiel he is. He created this. This idea of like all right. It's. All of these intellectuals are going to get together and there's a members and guest list. You're going to be. And then we're going to do this whole thing. And it was just revealed by a bunch of hackers that pull out. They got. Somehow there was a loophole in their security because all these guys are so. They. They barely tell what the hell is
Eddie Larson
happening up their own ass and think they're so brilliant. They don't see people. They don't think they can get attacked like this.
Henry Zebrowski
They don't think that they can. Which just also shows they're open.
Eddie Larson
Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
To attack. Of course they're open to it.
Eddie Larson
So more person who hacked the no Fly List.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. More and more of this. So because remember Peter Thiel straight up says he doesn't believe that freedom and democracy are compatible. And he also ran Argentina. So. Yeah. Have something to do with this news. We now know that some of the guys that went to this thing were please people like treasurer, Secretary Scott Bessant, Sarah Bond, Ted Cruz. J. Joseph Gordon Levitt. The actor.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Brian Johnson, the vampire man that is stealing blood from his son.
Eddie Larson
Cory Booker.
Henry Zebrowski
Cory Booker is a really fun one. And then also it's. It is this thing. So he's bringing people together.
Eddie Larson
Klein.
Henry Zebrowski
Yep.
Eddie Larson
Ezra Klein. Yeah. Like that's crazy to me.
Henry Zebrowski
It is a. It is across the board and sold. It is important to remember guys that they're all on one team. This is still the fucking lesson is that it's not about left or right. It is about a certain amount of money in your bank account gets you access to certain things and it changes your brain. And you start to think of the rest of us as fucking expendable. Yeah. And so that is what is happening. So this guy in the conference they're doing all this. These like funny cute things. So first is the one is just the topic of. They all get together. Like one of the topics was just World War Three.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And the other one was the pros and cons of AI.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Right. Which just seemed like stuff that we. Whatever.
Henry Zebrowski
That's what leaders do. But then there's one called how to start a Cult. How to run a cult.
Eddie Larson
Yep.
Henry Zebrowski
There was another one called the. The one that.
Eddie Larson
That was also. I think you're. You're. You're. You're got. Now you're. You're going past how to build a Cult. It was moderated by the founder. Founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com.
Henry Zebrowski
yes. And then there's another one that was called It's Fun to be in charge.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Right. Which is. God knows what that means.
Eddie Larson
Money does buy happiness.
Henry Zebrowski
That's what. It's another one that. Another class that was called Money does Buy Happiness.
Eddie Larson
And then how's your sex life? Of course. Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
Because the big thing here is one of the big interesting factors of dialogue is that not only is it a think tank, not only is it a summer vacation, it's also a shed. Because what they do is matchmake there.
Eddie Larson
Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
Which to me was one of the first things that rang a giant bell. Right. It was like I just saw this bell as soon as I saw the. The. The option to.
Eddie Larson
Right.
Henry Zebrowski
The option.
Eddie Larson
Help elite people find elite people is what they say.
Henry Zebrowski
They help billionaires because they. They can't close. Okay. Because they literally are reptiles with no human emotions.
Eddie Larson
If there were humans, they'd be millionaires.
Henry Zebrowski
They'd be normal millionaires with chicks.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Okay.
Eddie Larson
Giving back to society.
Henry Zebrowski
They'd be just normal guys having fun if they were normal people, but they're not. And so guess where this all brings us to. It's an island adventure. So, yes, it's an. Of course it comes back to Jeffrey Epstein. So there was a email exchange from Jeffrey Epstein where he says, peter Thiel loves your secret society idea. He's trying to get one off the grounds. He hasn't been able to figure it out. It's all connected all the way fucking back. So Peter Thiel, we now know that dialogue emails are all through the Epstein emails. And the reason why we didn't find them up till now was because we didn't know the names of the society yet.
Eddie Larson
Also, Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
A word like dialogue means nothing.
Eddie Larson
Means nothing until you learn the existence of this secret organization called that.
Henry Zebrowski
So now he. We have all of these emails. We have no idea whether Jeffrey Epstein was going or not. We know that people were keeping him up to date with what they were talking about.
Eddie Larson
He was full on invited.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, yes. We just don't know if he went. Which he did. Probably did. And so then they also were. And when he didn't go, they sent him materials from what they were talking about.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So it's all connected back. And again, we don't know know if they actually make policy decisions or what they do, but the fact that they're all getting together and they're all super secret about it to me is. Doesn't bode well.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. And. And it's everybody. It's people who own major corporations, it's senators, it's. It's everybody.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh no. Jason Gordon Levitt was just like. I thought that day. It was an interesting conversation. And then it's like the other guys were all.
Eddie Larson
Meanwhile Ted Cruz is there. I don't know how you're going to have an interesting convers with him because
Henry Zebrowski
Ted Cruz's connections to the government and you're just happy he's there.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
And you love the fact that he's a flawed sociopath because those are the best people to manipulate.
Eddie Larson
Absolutely.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. So that's like the thing is we are. We're still being held under the thumb of these people and they think it's funny. I think that's what's hard is that they think it's so funny and cute.
Eddie Larson
What am I supposed to do? Get rid of PayPal.
Henry Zebrowski
I don't got time for this shit. No, PayPal's done. Unfortunately. It's not even the software. But buddy, we, our. I love the idea of boycotts and what we're doing here. Yeah, right. I don't think that's going to move the needle as much as I.
Eddie Larson
Using PayPal isn't going to change anything.
Henry Zebrowski
I think what's going to move my life harder. I think eventually we're all going to have to show up in front of a bunch of data centers. I think that's going to be a thing we're going to have to do at some point. But I think that's the later on conversation for if and when Peter Thiel somehow survives the military police of Argentina, which I still believe that he could end up.
Eddie Larson
They're protecting him. The President. Argentina said it's a. It's a haven for billionaires.
Henry Zebrowski
But also guess what? Then everyone has the price.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So guess what? I'll take somebody else.
Eddie Larson
The price is way cheaper in Argentina. I'm sure.
Henry Zebrowski
But guess what? If he's under Cunningham, somebody will come fucking overpay him to kill him. If it's just about money, baby. There's somebody. So there's always somebody who's willing to pay you a little bit bit more.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Especially if it comes down to hog tie and a billionaire. You know what I mean?
Eddie Larson
That's what we need. We need Wade.
Henry Zebrowski
We need Wade.
Eddie Larson
Wade can redeem himself.
Henry Zebrowski
I don't know if Wade has enough attention to detail for this job.
Eddie Larson
We just need him tying.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah, but we just get me to the hogs.
Eddie Larson
We can practice on Ted Cruz. He's local.
Henry Zebrowski
Why does he have so many hugs?
Eddie Larson
Yeah, the other thing that we forgot is the reason, like, the story went so long going back to. To Parker. I know that we're done talking about that, but I think, like, what made it so interesting to me and the reason she got away with it for so long, and by for so long, I mean like hours, not like days or anything like that, is because she killed Reagan in Oklahoma and then drove to Texas.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes.
Eddie Larson
So it gave them a little bit longer to connect the news stories just because of the state line.
Henry Zebrowski
No, she's. She did it. She thought that she was doing it. Savvily. She was doing it correctly. She wasn't.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, man.
Henry Zebrowski
No, she was flawed, man.
Eddie Larson
But I. I don't think there's anyone. It's weird. I feel like Peter Teal has taken over Elon for person I hate most.
Henry Zebrowski
I don't know. I really don't know.
Eddie Larson
You know, maybe I should just hate him. Everyone the same.
Henry Zebrowski
I do. That's what I do.
Eddie Larson
Don't rank them.
Henry Zebrowski
No.
Eddie Larson
It's like people who rank their friends. What's wrong with. I. Oh, God. You know, like wedding parties. You know, just like. It's like, come on. Look. What?
Henry Zebrowski
Guess what you always do every wedding, one friendship is ruined. Yeah.
Eddie Larson
You put. You put someone in there that shouldn't have been in there, and then next thing you know, every Pict was ruined.
Henry Zebrowski
Yep. Oh, no. Believe me.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Oh, no.
Henry Zebrowski
Believe me. So we have a. All right, this is another big news event. I'm certain, everybody. This is honestly big ups to robots. We have our very first official kill of a human being by an autonomous robot in the field of battle. And guess who used it. Ukraine.
Eddie Larson
Ukraine.
Henry Zebrowski
Ukraine used it. It's very.
Eddie Larson
Robot.
Henry Zebrowski
Very fascinating. It is the very first time that they have used a machine in which they said that it fly out, it goes into Terminator mode, quote, unquote, and then.
Eddie Larson
Exactly the mode that called it.
Henry Zebrowski
Yep. And it kills everybody. That's what they said, is that they sent it out there. And don't worry, if there's somebody out there that you want to kill, it will kill. We just. According to the guy from. From Coconovoski, we just launch it and we know everything will be dead. Everything that will be found there in this particular area will be dead.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
There is no connection to the drone at all. You cannot see the video or nothing. Everything it sees will be killed.
Eddie Larson
We don't even know how many people Are killed?
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, it says a couple guys.
Eddie Larson
It says it killed a couple of Russian soldiers and one truck. Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
What does it mean? It killed the truck?
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But the, this has the first one.
Eddie Larson
The only reason we know is because they sent in a man drone afterwards to make sure to see what happened and then it did its job.
Henry Zebrowski
Because the thing is, the IDF has suicide drones, but it still takes a human to trigger them. And then there's other. We have military drones.
Eddie Larson
A moral code. They have such a moral code.
Henry Zebrowski
The moral code requires them to see a child and explode it. Like that's the problem is that when it's the moral code to kill the child, then technically they're correct. Yeah. And so, but we have suicide drones that we use and we, we, we do stuff like that. We, we tr. But this is the very first time just a robot's done it. I just want to say congrats to the Jackie Robinson of, of, of AI robots out on the battlefield. Cuz, you know, it's really, really hard out there for robots, especially volunteer army. And these guys, they really are. That's, that's fighting for freedom.
Eddie Larson
Now we have used Claude to bomb Iran and they believe that it was Claude who actually chose to blow up that school very, very early on.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, it sounds like a really useful way to sort of blame someone. Somebody else. Yeah, no, it's all fake.
Eddie Larson
Also, just by the way, you still used Claude. And if Claude killed the school for children, you did it.
Henry Zebrowski
You did it. Listen, you did it. Humans are still telling them what to do. Yes, it autonomously killed a bunch of people, but it was just told to kill a bunch of people that look like this.
Eddie Larson
Kill people?
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. So it's not just doing it. It's not like it. If it, this is how it's AI guys, is if it was built to make waffles and to start order to kill people, and if it's not, if it's built to make waffles and it's making waffles, guess what it is? It's washing. It's a waffle machine. Even if you call it an AI waffle machine, it's just a waffle machine. Like this concept of AI that's being thrown around is a buzzword that means absolutely nothing. When they say AI is in your fridge, it means nothing. When AI is in your tv, it means nothing. It's a computer program. It's software. That's all it is. It's a way to sell it where
Eddie Larson
that's not made by a human.
Henry Zebrowski
No. Yes. It is. The software is made by a human and then it goes in.
Eddie Larson
I was at this great Jewish Chinese wedding this weekend. You got to try it sometime.
Henry Zebrowski
I know. You sound great. On what? The food.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh God.
Eddie Larson
It was wonderful. But the thing is, I was. It was in Seattle and there was a bunch of code writers there at the wedding. There's a bunch of tech people there. And I was like, they're literally really talking about how they miss writing code that they don't. They're not allowed to write code anymore. That all code is written by AI.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. Well, we're going to have see is. I never thought of code that way as a writer.
Eddie Larson
I never thought of code as something you write.
Henry Zebrowski
No, it's a code and it's an art. It is way more of an art than it is anything else. And what we're seeing, Eddie, is the fact that we are racing towards a giant brick wall.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
In which all of these companies that are going to be held up by these fake AI programs because they're. We're just using the words AI. We're just using the term.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
It's just a computer program. It's not thinking, it's just doing stuff. It's not actually thinking. And what we're going to see is that once we're really dependent on quote unquote AI coders, we're going to see these websites falling apart.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But everything's going to fall apart.
Eddie Larson
They are kind of thinking. Bots are thinking in a way.
Henry Zebrowski
See, again, we are. This is the issue is we have to think about what the term thinking means.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Is it making is its own independent choices from data it's getting independently and then deciding to do something unique. That's thinking.
Eddie Larson
Well, what's the difference between Google AI and then going than this Ukrainian fucking drone killing people that it just chooses?
Henry Zebrowski
Well, Google AI is really just kind of shortening news articles and it's always wrong. And then the same thing with this technology is that you don't think that this AI technology is not going to kill the wrong people.
Eddie Larson
Of course it's going to kill the wrong. So we do kill the wrong people in war every day.
Henry Zebrowski
I know. We're just moving blame to more. An even more inefficient source.
Eddie Larson
Obama killed hundreds of us civilians and
Henry Zebrowski
he did a by hand, like a real man, like a real fudgeing man. I'm just saying thinking is not what they're saying it is. It's just working as a computer program. It is not thinking. So this Idea that they are. That they're little people in here doing stuff and that their little miracle machines is completely a false spill of goods. And it's why we're heading towards a. It's why our economy is wildly bloated right now. And we're going to. We're heading towards whatever the fall is going to be.
Eddie Larson
It's going to be up.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, you know what's funny is that it could be. Or we could. It does also seem to be that the. There's enough blood in the water right now that more and more people are pulling, pulling out. That as long as a lot of these things don't go to ipo, we'll be fine. Yeah. Truly, our economy will be fine as long as they don't take over the entire thing. And because, thankfully, it seems that they're failing with record speed. So the more they fail and the faster they fail, the more we'll get past this little period. And then eventually AI will do what it needs to do, which is just supposed to do. It's supposed to help you make your maps more efficient.
Eddie Larson
It's so crazy that AI is getting all these second chances that, like, if a human made these same mistakes would just be fired immediately.
Henry Zebrowski
It's because they already fired all the people. Yeah, it's because they fired all the people and the people are coming back and being like, you want me to fix your little problem? How about you give me 20k more a year? Yeah, that's what I would do.
Eddie Larson
Oh, absolutely. Definitely. That's what you should do.
Henry Zebrowski
Yep.
Eddie Larson
We're all. I mean, this is all so scary.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah. You know, I. On some level, it is frightening. And then on another level, I believe it's going to play out in a. In a medium way. Like, it's going to play out in a middle way.
Eddie Larson
I think it's going to play out. And a lot of people are going to fucking die. They're already dying.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, yeah, yeah, People are dying. A lot more people are going to die and a bunch more people are going to die.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But I do think that in the end, I won't work.
Eddie Larson
Of course it won't.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Eddie Larson
Because it can't think.
Henry Zebrowski
Because it doesn't think.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Because we don't even know how we think. So how the fuck are we going to make a facsimile of how we think if we don't know how the fuck we think? Because our thinker is the one doing the thinking. And when we look at the thinker, we have a hard time figuring out what the thinker's doing. Because we are inside the thinker.
Eddie Larson
We obviously don't know how people think. Because who would ever thought that Taylor Parker would have done what she did?
Henry Zebrowski
Me, I can tell by the hair.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Or the eyebrow combination. I could tell. Absolutely. All right, we got another. We got more fun story.
Eddie Larson
There's one. One more story.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, this is one of those where I just like covering this type of stuff because we never do. And it's just like, I don't know what this is. And I want somebody to send me more about. I'm fascinated with guys like this. Have you seen there's other guys that for religious devotionals, do specific physical things and then they, like, change. Like, I remember there was a one guy, Remember the guy that got like, he stuck his hand in the air for like 15 years.
Eddie Larson
Okay, yes.
Henry Zebrowski
So this is a guy stood in same place for 12 years as a vow to the God Shiva.
Eddie Larson
Right. Okay.
Henry Zebrowski
But the only reason why I even want to talk about. Talk about it was just like, man, his feet.
Eddie Larson
Wow. Yeah, they look bad.
Henry Zebrowski
Just look at him. Like, it's not even. It's like his feet have turned into two giant blood filled, like pedestals.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, no, he. I mean, those feet are gonna fall off.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, yeah, that's the idea.
Eddie Larson
They're black. Yeah, they're gone. Yeah, they're. They're attached to his legs still, but they are useless and they're gone.
Henry Zebrowski
You know, it's fine. I just think it's interesting that he keeps doing. Doing it and, you know, he's still got his. He's technically still got his toenails.
Eddie Larson
So, like, why is he doing it, though?
Henry Zebrowski
It is a devotional. It's called standing penance. It's like, what so he does is. He has been do. It's an extreme austerity measure that he does as a way to achieve spiritual oneness. Slash as a devotional to his God Shiva that he personally has taken to be his own personal, personal God.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, well, you know, Shiva exists. Lots of people pray to see, but dude, look, he's moving. A billion people pray to Shiva, but
Henry Zebrowski
dude, no one does this. Yeah, because he's special, dude. He's Timothy Chamberlain. Look at this. Look, he's wearing even where the nick's orange just like him.
Eddie Larson
Oh, yeah, yeah, he's hip.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, look at him. Nixon 5. He was there.
Eddie Larson
Oh, man.
Henry Zebrowski
It's like. All right, my.
Eddie Larson
I'm. I'm disgusting.
Henry Zebrowski
I'm standing too long. My. My, my feet. I'm trying to do the rhyme. My I'm feet. My feet are black. My tunics orange.
Eddie Larson
Oh, yes, sir.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, God. Was it Nixon 5.
Eddie Larson
Ah, I get it. Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
My feet are black. My skirt is orange.
Eddie Larson
My shiva got five arms.
Henry Zebrowski
Nixon five.
Eddie Larson
Right.
Henry Zebrowski
They already won.
Eddie Larson
Oh, man.
Henry Zebrowski
But here, do you see the one of him stretching?
Eddie Larson
Yeah. I mean, he has to. He wasn't actually doing it on his own. He was using a board with ropes to lean on. He's great.
Henry Zebrowski
He's got a glam squad.
Eddie Larson
Well, he's like.
Henry Zebrowski
That's how he sleeps.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, but I. I mean, he's not doing it then. Wow. Then he didn't even do it. Cuz he.
Henry Zebrowski
This isn't enough for you See, he.
Eddie Larson
He didn't.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, no, this isn't enough for.
Eddie Larson
His cause is so stupid that it's like. It's like, all right, if this is your cause, you're not even doing it. You've wasted your legs for no fucking reason.
Henry Zebrowski
But what else is he going to do with them?
Eddie Larson
Get a job.
Henry Zebrowski
This is a job.
Eddie Larson
This isn't a job. He paid for this.
Henry Zebrowski
Actually. Side stories lpotl gmail.com But I'm pretty certain that guys like this do actually get paid. And then they. People donate money to them and they become like venerable. Like, you know, like.
Eddie Larson
But how is he even going to use it?
Henry Zebrowski
He don't move in India and all these areas, they have like guru culture.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So people go and find the guru and then like a devotional, like, relationship is pretty. I don't think it's common, but I do know that it's way more like we don't have that here. Like they have it there, but they like, they have like a whole thing where it's way more common for them to sort of rally around a sp. A local spiritual leader.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Because it's. There's so many people. And they also, I want to say is Hinduism is polytheistic?
Eddie Larson
I don't know. But his legs are starting to look like Ganeshes. Tell you that much.
Henry Zebrowski
So you're saying you don't like those legs? You're saying he doesn't look like a G thing. He doesn't. He couldn't redo the scene from Basic Instinct. I feel like, can you imagine the smell?
Eddie Larson
Oh my God.
Henry Zebrowski
That scene from him.
Eddie Larson
I mean, his feet are. I mean, they exist, but like, I just. They're so big and black. They're so big and in black. He should not have Shaq's feet.
Henry Zebrowski
I know, but it's fun.
Eddie Larson
It's fun.
Henry Zebrowski
He did it to himself.
Eddie Larson
God, it's disgusting, and it makes no sense to me.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, he knows him. It's not. It's not necessarily a panthe of many deities.
Eddie Larson
Oh, it's not bad. As far as religions go, it could be worse.
Henry Zebrowski
It's got its. I. I actually have no idea as
Eddie Larson
far as religions go. Hindu is, like, fine. It's definitely better than Catholicism.
Henry Zebrowski
It's very. It seems that it's way more like. Like, Hinduism seems like it's way, way more fluid.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, sure. Whatever. I'm a atheist. None of it's real. If this. It's certainly not fluid for this guy.
Henry Zebrowski
No, it's not.
Eddie Larson
It is stone. Yeah, it's quite.
Henry Zebrowski
Quite solid.
Eddie Larson
No, no, no, no. It doesn't matter. Anything that makes you do this, I can't be on board with.
Henry Zebrowski
He's not being made to do it. He's gun.
Eddie Larson
He's supposed to, though.
Henry Zebrowski
He's doing extreme. He's doing an extreme. This is extreme. Yeah, yeah. Other people just normally just will do it for a little while.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. If you lived in America, he would just be a racist tea party member.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah,
Eddie Larson
yeah, probably. Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But I just say it's just nice to see somebody with some discipline. Everybody's so lazy. God damn. So let's get into some listener letters.
Eddie Larson
All right?
Henry Zebrowski
I actually have a really good one.
Eddie Larson
All right. I want to hear of it. So first of all, God, everybody wants me to change my deodorant.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, I told you about that. Yeah, you go to God. Like, first of all, thank you to everybody that messaged about Ed's armpits.
Eddie Larson
I had one guy be like, they sell. They. They sell Mitchum at this place in that place to displace it. It's like, I go, they're out. What do you want from me? Call me a liar.
Henry Zebrowski
No, you should just go and get changed. A native.
Eddie Larson
I ordered a bunch of Mitchum online. Thank you, everybody.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, you did?
Eddie Larson
I'm fine.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, he's bought a crate of it online.
Eddie Larson
Good for the year.
Henry Zebrowski
Seemed like it would have been an easier. As an easy solution, but I did
Eddie Larson
it, and it's done. No must, no fuss.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, wow. Wow. Oh, dude, you know what else we didn't cover, really?
Eddie Larson
What?
Henry Zebrowski
That the fall. I know. Last week, we covered, like, with Sketchy Andy and all the. The guys that. All the. The daredevil stuff.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
We never really. Like. We talked about the lady falling during the bungee cord incident where she didn't have it attached.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, I didn't really? It was still developing.
Henry Zebrowski
Did you watch the video?
Eddie Larson
No, I don't watch that type of shit.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh my. No. They don't see anything. The video is crazy. The video, they lift her up over their heads. So what they do here.
Eddie Larson
How did they not know there's three people holding her over her head?
Henry Zebrowski
How could you not tell there's not
Eddie Larson
a rope attached to her? I could tell just by looking at it for sake.
Henry Zebrowski
They're all now under investigation because. Because if you hear the video, it looks like murder, dude. If you hear the video, everyone's like, stop, stop. She's not connected. She's not connected. Like you hear people telling them that she's not connected. You see the rope down on the ground, they're all giggling and laughing like it's funny. And then they literally javelin her off the side of the mountain. They just throw her off. I did not know that.
Eddie Larson
Not even that. Now I got the video.
Henry Zebrowski
And not only only do they throw her, it's not a bungee cord, dude. It's just a shitty rope.
Eddie Larson
Godamn.
Henry Zebrowski
Look at that. Dude, they just threw her in the ravine, man. Whoa. Yeah, they just threw her in, dude. So they're all under. They're all under investigation now, obviously. Yeah, I mean, she had a body cam on too.
Eddie Larson
Oh, she did?
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, there's a body cam footage out somewhere.
Eddie Larson
But did that survive?
Henry Zebrowski
No. I know, who knows? But honestly, it'd be okay. Great, great advertisement for that GoPro.
Eddie Larson
Oh my God.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, right there. Just done. Wow. Just tossed her right off the side.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, I just thought it was like a little accident. I didn't realize like three people picked her up and then tossed her.
Henry Zebrowski
No.
Eddie Larson
Why?
Henry Zebrowski
People are stupid, man.
Eddie Larson
Damn.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, it's real bad. Yeah, they tossed it, right? Toss it right off the thing. Just javelin her right under the ground. Never do anything remotely fun. Guys, I. My thing is no helicopters. No bungee cords, no jumping out of planes.
Eddie Larson
You can't.
Henry Zebrowski
All right, first off, more of this.
Eddie Larson
Helicopters you can't put on the same level as this.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, well, yeah, no, no, you're right, you're right.
Eddie Larson
This is like. That's like. This is crazy. This is. First of all, no one should be bungee jumping. And if you are bungee jumping, like,
Henry Zebrowski
think about it, think about it.
Eddie Larson
I don't know, just. You don't need to do it.
Henry Zebrowski
Get into weightlifting.
Eddie Larson
I. I just don't get it, man.
Henry Zebrowski
Find other thrills.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, thanks.
Henry Zebrowski
Stop trusting carnies.
Eddie Larson
Get in the evo. Taylor. I've said I hours. I spend And I'm completely enthralled.
Henry Zebrowski
Anybody that. I don't care what level of professional establishment you go to.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Anybody that is operating a bungee jumping thing is a carny. Yes, it is. The same person that runs the tilt.
Eddie Larson
The world. It is.
Henry Zebrowski
You have to know that anytime you
Eddie Larson
are doing business with somebody who is not under a roof, you're taking a chance.
Henry Zebrowski
You're taking your life in your hands. Never trust these people.
Eddie Larson
Whether it's a hot dog cart.
Henry Zebrowski
Oh, man, that's the thing. I wouldn't even eat street food. Never mind getting thrown off a bridge by some guy. I would love to see you guys go skydiving. Oh, no. I'll kill the pilot, Henry. And I'll kill the pilot. I'd rather die in a plane crash of my own hand than having them force me out. The way that'll happen. I'll kill the pilot with my bare hands before they fight. Force me out of the plane, man.
Eddie Larson
The only way I would ever skydive is if I. I don't even know if like I had to in war and even then probably just die.
Henry Zebrowski
Honestly. The only way you're going to get me to do it if. If it's a high level movie job.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, that's it. It's so weird. You do anything for that.
Henry Zebrowski
Anything for that. Anything for is I've done many dangerous things.
Eddie Larson
Content. You're down.
Henry Zebrowski
I have done it. Many things I'm scared. Scared of.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
On camera.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But that's it.
Eddie Larson
And one of those things is just touching a horse.
Henry Zebrowski
I hate.
Eddie Larson
Oh, I hate horses. Horses.
Henry Zebrowski
Scaredy out of me. You know that. It scares us. You all know that about me. Y' all know me. All right, so this story, this next one, I take nothing from the story, please. But I loved. I thought this story was really interesting because of the story we covered last week of the guy that killed pedophiles. It was hunting pedophiles.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
So this is this guy. I work for a local DA and you're suggested and you were suggesting some alternates to vigilante violence against pedophiles. Cuz remember saying we don't need to kill them. We can glue their mailbox shut. We could slash their tires. You know, like stuff like that. We don't just torture, cut their feet off. Yeah. Well, just like again, move. Break into their home while they're not there, move their furniture around and leave.
Eddie Larson
Convince them to prey to shoot Shiva.
Henry Zebrowski
Yes. Lots of fun stuff. So that story, it reminded me of a wild case. I Handled involving an Internet vigilante. We'll call Bob. Bob decided to take up a hobby of posing as young boys online debate predators. He would constantly dump chat logs, documents and recordings and the local law enforcement to assist them in community safety. And he, period, periodically, he'd lose his shit in law enforcement when, quote, nothing was being done about it.
Eddie Larson
It okay.
Henry Zebrowski
The process is never as fast or as simple as people think. And Bob, who was a psychopath.
Eddie Larson
Absolutely, yes. In order to do something, to spend all day. You're gonna be crazy. Pedophiles, you're crazy. Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
Eventually, Bob targeted a prominent community figure who actively worked with adolescents. Bob used the old pedophile's life against him. He did his research. And we use specific details about the Predator's life to scare him. Like, if you don't turn yourself in, I'm emailing our entire chat history to Janet in accounting. Now this pedophile, he had no record. He was acres out of his mind, right? But this is what amazing is, that this guy that he randomly chose happened to actually be a pedophile. So this guy starts going crazy, right? He starts pleading with Bob, bargaining, offering Bob massive sums of money to keep quiet, promising never to do it again, etc. And right at the height of the Predator's panic, Bob suddenly went radio silent. No warnings, no replies. The pedophile continued to message Bob, his panic and fear about being exposed growing every day in the empty unanswered thread. Two months go by, Bob reappear, Pierce picking right up back where he left off. A wave of relief washes over the Predator. He still might even have a chance. He resumes his pleading and begging and his excuses for a couple more weeks with Bob. Then radio silence again.
Eddie Larson
Wow, he's really torturing him.
Henry Zebrowski
The Predator thought he was dealing with a cold, calculated, methodical mastermind who was letting him sweat. In reality, our quote unquote mastermind, Bob, he was in and out of jail for drugs, menacing, obstruction, disorder, orderly conduct, just overall being a total pain in the ass to law enforcement. So after a few cycles of this, the pedo broke. He was so terrified of Bob's looming silent threats that he actually went to the police station and turned himself in.
Eddie Larson
Oh, that's cool.
Henry Zebrowski
Reading that nine month text chain of communication was one of the most hilarious moments of my career. The Predator legit thought he was being dismantled by a genius technical operation. The judge on intake that we comedically let the defendant know that Bob was just a chaotic force of nature who had no idea his own legal Troubles were driving a pedophile straight into a jail cell. So screw gluing mailboxes. Psychological pressure can really force them to face the legal system and at a minimum ruin any comfort in their day to day lives and force them to maybe refrain from their tendencies.
Eddie Larson
It definitely kept children safe around the.
Henry Zebrowski
It definitely did. And then I do wonder though, if institutional justice is too slow and vigilante violence is wrong. Is weaponized exposure and psychological pressure of alarm solid alternative or just relying on chaotic unhinged actors like Bob just create a different kind of danger for the community?
Eddie Larson
I think eventually a pedophile just kill everybody.
Henry Zebrowski
I think that going to prison. I do also believe that, well hopefully just kill himself. But I also believe Bob is too non directed for us to say that that's the way to always do this. But I would say it's a great start.
Eddie Larson
I think people like Bob, you know, definitely exist and they're usually wrong most of the time.
Henry Zebrowski
That's unfortunate. Most of the time what they're doing and I' tell you as a matter of fact, if you remotely have any sort of public presence in this life, you get constantly accused of insane up 247 by people and you just don't know. So I feel like yeah, he was just real lucky. And that's what I would say is that you got to figure out, you got to know the guy is molesting people first. Yeah.
Eddie Larson
It's so weird to like pose as a child to try and get into attraction, trap them. Is that illegal?
Henry Zebrowski
Not if you're a police officer, but you're.
Eddie Larson
If you're Bob.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, the problem is this isn't why
Eddie Larson
Bob got in trouble.
Henry Zebrowski
It is not, it is not illegal. You can do that. A lot of people do, but it does. Does not necessarily lead to a conviction in court. Yeah, that's kind of the problem. The problem is that you're getting a bunch of evidence illegally. You're getting the evidence illegally. So for the court. Yeah. So none of it's going to matter work.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Some courts, some like police stations work with some of these guys. Some do like the vigilante guys. Some of them ha them. Some of them work with them who are pains in the asses. Yeah.
Eddie Larson
But I think like.
Henry Zebrowski
And they also are really, really irresponsible for the most part. I think they're doing good. Yeah, they're fine.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
But I would say any form of vigilante justice has to be. It all is involve risk and it all is. It's one of those. It all. It's very risky behavior, but that's why I'm still saying just bag of dog on the front step.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Set it on fire.
Eddie Larson
Oh. The other thing I feel like is worth mentioning is no one has a nice thing to say about Sketchy Andy.
Henry Zebrowski
No. No.
Eddie Larson
There's some people not liked by his community.
Henry Zebrowski
Well, a lot of people were like, he was just trying to bring, you know, aware awareness to BASE jumping. And it's like they're pretty. People are aware. Yeah, they're aware. If they know about BASE jumping, they know about it. I don't think it's one of those that needs to, you know, it's space jumping. I don't think it's like, I know, like a systemic issue.
Eddie Larson
Oh, and don't touch miniature horses.
Henry Zebrowski
I won't.
Eddie Larson
We know you're scared of the regular.
Henry Zebrowski
I just told them. I won't. We have a long email that says a long thing about not touching miniature horses and. Yeah, I get it.
Eddie Larson
All right.
Henry Zebrowski
I want to.
Eddie Larson
Just as long as you're going. Not going to touch them, but I want to. What if someone tells you to touch it.
Henry Zebrowski
The second. Well, it's been a great episode.
Eddie Larson
It's been delightful.
Henry Zebrowski
I've really been enjoying it.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. I'm not worried about the future of society at all.
Henry Zebrowski
No, no. And I love where we're going, where we're headed. I live for our autonomous robots to finally get their. Live their dreams. And I hope that one day someone builds a robot that laughs at my jokes.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. My. You know, what I've actually been working on is something to help with. With all the, you know, you know, my work with foster dogs and how there's too many dogs out there. So I. I'm trying. I'm developing a spay eye program to help autonomously go into the streets and just cut the dog. Yeah. You make them all into little parkers.
Henry Zebrowski
That's a great idea.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Honestly, it's not a bad idea. It could be worse.
Eddie Larson
Please invest in my spayeye program.
Henry Zebrowski
Just give money directly to Ed Larson.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Venmo at Spay Spay sp. Spay Industries.
Eddie Larson
Spay. Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, we just send money that Venmo don't and just say yes. They be like, do you want to confirm the numbers?
Eddie Larson
Just say yes. Yes.
Henry Zebrowski
Give the money.
Eddie Larson
Of course. Yeah. I'm not giving out my phone number.
Henry Zebrowski
No, no. His number's only four numbers long. Go to patreon.com last podcast 11. You could watch Listen to Us ad free. You can also go and see last stream on the Left Live every Tuesday, 5pm PST go to Instagram @LP on the left for and tik tok social media. Go watch the end of HGX2. We've worked very, very hard on the
Eddie Larson
whole second season is so bingeable. It is so incredible. It is honestly my favorite thing I've been a part of creating. Shout out to Eric Lacombe here over it at LPN tv. He's a goddamn genius. Henry, you crushed it. Julie was amazing. Is unbelievable. All of our judges like it was a journey. I'm so happy it's out there. The second season, you don't need to see the first season in hoopa goo watch it. It's a lot of fun. But the second season we really upped our game and it is truly unbelievable. YouTube.compnTV Binge that the last two episodes are a movie.
Henry Zebrowski
It's so good.
Eddie Larson
It's an hour and a half.
Henry Zebrowski
Go check it out.
Eddie Larson
It's crazy what was made here. I was like I I, I'm blown away by everybody you know. Hail ld even even though ld's a
Henry Zebrowski
We're gonna get him now.
Eddie Larson
Yes. Also on YouTube. Brighter side is now on YouTube. Go check that out YouTube.com@thebrighterside LPN. Go follow us. Subscribe and Wizard. Wizard. I'm not. It's a different show. Nerd of mouth. Nerd of mouth is now on YouTube as well. We're putting all of our out there for everyone to see. Our big old fat face. And then the road. Henry and I were in London this weekend. It sold out. Don't try and come.
Henry Zebrowski
Hopefully we can get there.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Hopefully we can figure out how to get there because no one wants to drive us.
Henry Zebrowski
It's super hard.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. To convince someone from Michigan to drive back and forth to Canada for you. Very hard. Yes. But we're doing it. You sold the tickets and we're gonna come and they don't worry about it. London, we're gonna gonna be there. We're gonna try and book some more side story shows throughout the year. Crime wave is still available but also July. I'm hitting the road hard, man. I'm gonna be in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Newark, New Jersey, New York City. Tul with Tolson, Oklahoma City with last podcast on the left. Then the very next night I'm going to be in Plano, Texas. I got shows in LA, shows in Chicago. Go to eddytunes.com for tickets. I'm gonna release more dates soon. Solo dates. Come and see me on the road. I love meeting everyone and having a great time.
Henry Zebrowski
We honestly, we can't wait. We love doing our shows and we can't wait to be out there.
Eddie Larson
Yeah, everybody.
Henry Zebrowski
All right. Hail Satan.
Eddie Larson
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Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Eddie Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zebrowski
Hill Ghana for soccer. You can wear it now, I think.
Eddie Larson
Yeah. Now I can, right? Because I've. I'm officially hailing Ghana.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah, you can wear it. Ghana now. Yeah.
Eddie Larson
Stupid ass. UK with their goddamn. Are they winning? Who knows?
Henry Zebrowski
Who cares?
Eddie Larson
Them. They cares. Ghana all the way. Go to the poly market and vote for Ghana.
Henry Zebrowski
Where's North Korea?
Eddie Larson
They're not allowed. They don't invite them.
Henry Zebrowski
Where's my jerk? I want a North Korea jersey.
Eddie Larson
North Korea jersey.
Henry Zebrowski
Yeah.
Eddie Larson
Okay. I bet we can make that happen.
Henry Zebrowski
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Eddie Larson
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In this episode of Side Stories, Henry Zebrowski and Eddie Larson deliver their unique comedic horror commentary on a slew of the week’s strangest true crime and odd news stories. The main feature is a deep dive into the true crime documentary "Maternal Instinct," the chilling case of Taylor Parker and the psychology of pathological liars. The conversation is interspersed with banter about betting on celebrity breakups, billionaire secret societies, AI battlefield developments, extreme religious penance, and even a story about vigilante justice. Per usual, the duo’s rambling style blends sharp insight, dark humor, and a barrage of memorable one-liners.
On Poly Market celebrity bets:
On Peter Thiel’s "Dialogue":
On AI robots killing in war:
Eddie on the standing devotee:
On “vigilante Bob”:
The hosts maintain their trademark irreverence and sometimes dark, always self-aware humor. They oscillate between disturbing crime insight, internet culture critique, and utter absurdity, resulting in equal measures of laughter and queasy incredulity.
For listeners or readers who missed the episode:
This episode covers a shocking true crime case in engaging depth, lampoons Silicon Valley’s elite, debates AI’s real-world impact, and delivers the Side Stories mix of gallows humor, unsparing insight, and recurring reminders not to trust carnies or bungee operators. And yes—Henry still hates horses.