Side Stories: Maternal Instict

Summary

Last Podcast on the Left – Side Stories: Maternal Instinct (June 24, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Side Stories, Henry Zebrowski and Eddie Larson deliver their unique comedic horror commentary on a slew of the week’s strangest true crime and odd news stories. The main feature is a deep dive into the true crime documentary "Maternal Instinct," the chilling case of Taylor Parker and the psychology of pathological liars. The conversation is interspersed with banter about betting on celebrity breakups, billionaire secret societies, AI battlefield developments, extreme religious penance, and even a story about vigilante justice. Per usual, the duo’s rambling style blends sharp insight, dark humor, and a barrage of memorable one-liners.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Opening Banter and Poly Market Betting

• [01:21–08:09] The hosts riff on everything from foie gras geese to British men’s decline in handsomeness, using the rumored Zendaya-Tom Holland marriage as a springboard for jokes about betting on celebrity relationships using Poly Market—a real-world betting site for global events.
• Main Bit: Henry recommends betting $10,000 that Zendaya will leave Tom Holland within a year due to his “inevitable Britishness.”
  • Quote: “Tom Holland’s hairline—I look at it—he’s becoming British. The second he becomes British, she’s gone.” (Henry, 06:45)

2. Football Jerseys and Cultural Appropriation

• [12:13–16:19] Eddie agonizes about wearing a Ghana soccer jersey, musing on whether it’s cultural appropriation or appreciation, and Henry compares it to his history with dashikis. Google AI’s advice is humorously debated.

3. Main Story: "Maternal Instinct" & Taylor Parker True Crime Case

• [20:10–44:45]
• Henry and Eddie break down the documentary “Maternal Instinct” (Netflix), centering on Taylor Parker’s horrifying case:
  • Parker, a serial liar and "malingerer," faked a pregnancy for 10 months, then murdered her pregnant best friend and attempted to steal her unborn baby.
  • Discussion on the psychology of pathologic liars, malingering for attention or clout, and how childhood lying might morph into adult sociopathy.
  • Critique of ecosystem enabling Parker: her checked-out partner Wade (a “hog trapper”), ignored red flags, and rural American gullibility.
  • Breakdown of Parker’s escalating lies, fake illnesses, forged inheritance, and ultimately, her brutal crime.
  • Memorable Moment: The hosts marvel at the audacity of Parker wearing jeans to fake giving birth roadside.
    • Quote: “She let this lie go all the way to having her checked…she had to have known when the doctor like looks under that dress, they’re going to be like…” (Henry, 26:48)
  • Commentary on COVID as a smokescreen for skipping prenatal appointments.

Notable Quotes:

• “The thing about pathological liars I find fascinating—harder to do than most people think. It’s just so stressful to keep track of.” (Henry, 22:00)
• “To get to murder, you have to kill someone I love. And then probably won’t even then… to get to murder, you’re just evil.” (Eddie, 42:15)
• On enablers: “It takes a dude like Wade to fall for this type of person.” (Eddie, 37:13)

4. Secret Billionaire Societies: Peter Thiel’s "Dialogue"

• [47:57–56:13]
• Unpacking the Wired exposé on Peter Thiel’s secret society, "Dialogue."
  • “Dialog” is a shadowy, invite-only club founded in 2006 for tech oligarchs, politicians, and celebrities (members include Ted Cruz, Cory Booker, Joseph Gordon Levitt, Ezra Klein), with meetings on topics like “How to Run a Cult” and “Money Does Buy Happiness.”
  • Ties back to Jeffrey Epstein correspondence.
• Quote: “This proves…the capital I Illuminati never existed. But our current group of loser billionaires are trying to create one.” (Henry, 48:17)
• Hosts mock the billionaire pseudo-secret-society culture and its failed attempts at world-shaping influence.

5. AI on the Battlefield & The "Jackie Robinson" of Killer Robots

• [57:26–63:56]
• Ukraine deploys first confirmed autonomous killing robot—untethered, drone-like device enters "Terminator mode" and kills Russian soldiers.
  • Discussion on semantics: Is AI “thinking” or just software? Skepticism at the mythology around AI and the dangers of marketing hype.
  • Quote: “The concept of AI that’s being thrown around is a buzzword that means absolutely nothing. When they say AI in your fridge, it means nothing.” (Henry, 60:05)

6. Devotional Standing: 12 Years for Shiva

• [65:16–70:39]
• Brief feature on an Indian man who has stood in the same place for 12 years as religious penance to Shiva.
  • Eddie is morbidly fascinated, disgusted by the state of the man’s feet, and questions the logic/practicality of such devotion.
  • Quote: “His feet have turned into two giant blood-filled pedestals.” (Henry, 65:58)
  • Side discussion on guru culture and religious austerity in Hinduism.

7. Listener Letters & Vigilante Justice

• [70:54–82:27]
• Follow-up on stories about deodorant advice, and notable listener letter from a DA about a vigilante who psychologically terrorized a pedophile into surrendering to police—by accident, due to his own erratic behavior.
  • Discuss ethics and effectiveness of vigilante justice versus official legal processes.
  • Quote: “The predator thought he was dealing with a cold, calculated, methodical mastermind.…In reality, our ‘mastermind’ Bob was in and out of jail for drugs, menacing, obstruction, just overall being a pain in the ass.” (Henry, 78:35)

8. Bungee Mishap Video

• [71:43–73:29]
• Henry recounts the video of a woman being mistakenly thrown off a cliff without a bungee cord, with attendants ignoring warnings and giggling.
  • Take: Never trust “carnies” or engage in adventure sports managed by questionable staff.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Poly Market celebrity bets:

  • “You’re going to set this up, you’re going to put $10,000 on it... Tom Holland’s hairline. I look at it. He’s becoming British.” (Henry, 06:46)

• On Peter Thiel’s "Dialogue":

  • “It’s not about left or right, it’s about a certain amount in your bank account…it changes your brain. You start to think of the rest of us as expendable.” (Henry, 50:45)

• On AI robots killing in war:

  • “Congrats to the Jackie Robinson of, uh, AI robots out on the battlefield. Cuz, you know, it’s really, really hard out there for robots, especially a volunteer army.” (Henry, 59:26)

• Eddie on the standing devotee:

  • “His feet are…they exist, but, like, they’re so big and black. He should not have Shaq’s feet.” (Eddie, 69:24)

• On “vigilante Bob”:

  • “Reading that nine month text chain of communication was one of the most hilarious moments of my career. The predator legit thought he was being dismantled by a genius…” (Listener Letter via Henry, 79:06)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 01:21 – Cannibalism/goose/foie gras cold open
• 05:06 – Celeb gossip: Zendaya & Tom Holland, Poly Market
• 12:13 – Ghana jersey and cultural appreciation
• 20:10 – Maternal Instinct: Taylor Parker case deep dive
• 47:57 – Peter Thiel’s Dialogue/secret billionaire society
• 57:26 – Ukraine’s killer AI drone
• 65:16 – Indian devotee stands 12 years for Shiva
• 70:54 – Listener letters: armpits, vigilante justice
• 71:43 – Bungee accident video commentary
• 82:45 – Closing, tour & show plugs

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Tone and Style

The hosts maintain their trademark irreverence and sometimes dark, always self-aware humor. They oscillate between disturbing crime insight, internet culture critique, and utter absurdity, resulting in equal measures of laughter and queasy incredulity.

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For listeners or readers who missed the episode:
This episode covers a shocking true crime case in engaging depth, lampoons Silicon Valley’s elite, debates AI’s real-world impact, and delivers the Side Stories mix of gallows humor, unsparing insight, and recurring reminders not to trust carnies or bungee operators. And yes—Henry still hates horses.

Transcript

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Eddie Larson]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Eddie Larson]

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[Eddie Larson]

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[Eddie Larson]

This is the last on the left side stories.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. My fault that I'm out here feeling loose, got a sicken on my juice and I'm sitting on this goose. It ain't my fault.

[Eddie Larson]

Is that how you make foie gras?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean in the old days.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, you just get on a goose and you sit on them until it's delicious.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, you're not supposed to now. Now it's like the problem is that you're supposed to feed a goose so many delicious like fatty things and now it's like they took that away from the goose.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, but it was basically, it was my 500 pound life as a goose.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He was torturing the goose.

[Eddie Larson]

It's like if they ate the person at the end of my 500 pound life or just ate their liver, dude, just ate their. You know, it's a tasty liver.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That is a really fun idea.

[Eddie Larson]

My 500 pound liver.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I would love to see the fat content of a 600 pound person in the like. I actually wonder, Eddie. I've never. I've never thought about the side stories. LP O T L gmail.com can the liver of a 600 pound person be turned into foie gras?

[Eddie Larson]

Probably. I wouldn't try and eat any other part of them. But the liver.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Liver is. Is also considered to be the most nutritious part of any animal you could eat.

[Eddie Larson]

Well, that's why orcas are so this is my one gripe with orcas is that when they kill a great white shark, they only eat the Liver and then dispose of the rest of the body. Very wasteful. If they were. If the orcas were indigenous people, they'd be wasteful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what? And.

[Eddie Larson]

But because they're orcas, we forgive it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Because. And that's, to me, one of the glaring double standards we deal with as a country. And I feel. And that's why I'm actually really proudly. To be a part of a new society or my new group, where we're. Our goal is to just kind of randomly kill whales.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And just call where the whale colors.

[Eddie Larson]

How Japanese. Super Japanese.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's why I wasn't. Bring my giant camera with me everywhere, and I got to take a million pictures of it, show no one, and

[Eddie Larson]

put it on Facebook. I also.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I film everything with my iPad.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, you're so into it. I'm so Japanese.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I film everything with my iPad. It's pretty great. Welcome to Side Stories.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

My name is Henry Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.

[Eddie Larson]

That's right. That's me. Now, we talked about switching sides, but then we didn't do it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I. We did it for the other show.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, it's for the movie Stories.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, I wanted to try.

[Eddie Larson]

Available on Sirius and Patreon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's available on Patreon. So if you already joined the Patreon, just go watch it over there. It's already on there.

[Eddie Larson]

It's great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And so we. Yes. I. We switched it for that. Because I was watching a video with Tom Hanks that was really describing his. The concept of how people legitimately have good sides and bad sides.

[Eddie Larson]

I am facing my bad sides. The camera.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know I am same. This is my bad.

[Eddie Larson]

I got this weird skin tag over here, and I got it. And I got a gap in my teeth over here.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is my bad side. But the reason why we know this.

[Eddie Larson]

I got to get my tooth implant.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

No one will be none the wiser.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Triple G. Triple G. That's unique.

[Eddie Larson]

What does that mean?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Big, old, big natural titty.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, a natural titty. Yeah, in my mouth.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what you mean.

[Eddie Larson]

I need teeth.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, whatever, dude. Then you're calling the wrong guy, man.

[Eddie Larson]

Just always on your own little titty.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's cute.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Who'd be busy? You know who is never gonna have a problem sucking on a titty?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Who?

[Eddie Larson]

Wonderful. Tom Holland.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, you're. You're.

[Eddie Larson]

You think Tom Holland's getting dumped.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm mad that we're even starting.

[Eddie Larson]

You. You. You brought this up earlier.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Okay. So this is fine. I Brought this up earlier. Right. So Zendaya and Tom Holland got secretly married. Right. But now do we know they did? Yeah, sort of.

[Eddie Larson]

I didn't know that's why you were talking about it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She has been.

[Eddie Larson]

How do you sort of get secretly married?

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's a like a if to have. They haven't they kind of like he's

[Eddie Larson]

doing it for a green card.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think he's doing it to keep Zendaya. Right. I think he's trying to hold on to Zendaya. And I think Zendaya is so, like. I think it's fine. Right. For a while she's been with Spider Man. She's like being with Spider Man. But that's the reason why I wanted to talk about this is because I think it's timely. Finally, time for Eddie and I to broach the topic of poly market. So you see, Eddie is not into gambling. It ruined his family. Or ruined his family. Ruined his life.

[Eddie Larson]

A lot of things ruined my family. But I'd say gambling was top two.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That was top two, right. For me. Father number one. Just Dad's existence. See, I'm not a gambler either. I don't like it. But then, you know, and this is not a paid advertisement for polymarket, because we'd be on a different channel, we'd be making a lot, we'd be waking up, we'd be making more money. But this, so. But I thought it was like, this is a good thing to maybe even use it for in case you want money on. This is my insider tip to those. Whoa.

[Eddie Larson]

What happened?

[Henry Zebrowski]

My chair collapsed.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, it did? Wow. Hold on. Is this how short you're supposed to be?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[Eddie Larson]

No wonder you wanted to change sides.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Why my chair collapsed?

[Eddie Larson]

I don't know, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Why my chair collapsed.

[Eddie Larson]

Sounds like too many different.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We're here now. I'm so small. I'm stuck on this chair. The chair fell down.

[Eddie Larson]

Adjust the camera.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, it's important for me to do this from this place. Okay. Because I'm punching.

[Eddie Larson]

I went down too.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, I'm not trump slap you. As I said. So I. So I figured this is an insider tip for people out here because no one likes insider trading.

[Eddie Larson]

You always look at the world, but.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah, I don't hate it. Yeah. It makes you angry, right? Yeah. You're ready to. To attack. But my insider tip is that if you want to go and put a bet on a poly market, all right, you want to make money, I would say you're going to go and you're going to Bet Zendaya is going to leave Tom Holland within the next year. I mean, this. You're going to set this up. You're going to put $10,000 on it. You're going to make so much money. Because you know why I know that? And you know how I know that? Tom Holland's hairline. I look at it. He's becoming British. The second. The second he becomes British, she's gone. We got on the pod, he turns into the British man. He's going to be. We all saw what happened to cute Prince Andrew.

[Eddie Larson]

I mean, we saw what happened. Pulls him in.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, he's got heavy cosmetic surgery done.

[Eddie Larson]

He looks horrible.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He is. He's had.

[Eddie Larson]

Jude Law looks pretty bad.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Jude Law has had his whole scalp reconstructed, like, three times.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So, dude, this is happening. This is what I'm just saying. This is my call out to you.

[Eddie Larson]

Is this going to happen to Marcus? Yes. Wow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's gonna get British.

[Eddie Larson]

He's gonna get British.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. Well, he's not full. He's still American, So he's still naturally handsome.

[Eddie Larson]

So once your family's been here for multiple generations, you stay handsome. That's. But if you stay over there. Oh, it's the not.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's no fluoride. You're cute.

[Eddie Larson]

You're cute.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, you know, they. No, they don't have fluoride anymore. They're rid of it. The thing about British guys is that they're cute. They're cute, they're cute, they're cute. Then they turn British.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then all of a sudden, it's, oh, hello, miss. I simply can't find my. My wrinkled cream for my.

[Eddie Larson]

My shins.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He is going to literally receive sock garters in the mail. Like a British man can't even keep his socks up.

[Eddie Larson]

Really.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying here. Tom Holland is going to get to that point. His legs are going to become really skinny.

[Eddie Larson]

They're very thin now.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Oh, he's going to get skinnier and stranger. And that's my. That's my bet.

[Eddie Larson]

See, I think Tom Holland's going to stay a cute little boy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't think he ever.

[Eddie Larson]

I think he's already. Tom Holland's what, like 33, 34. And he's adorable.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's gonna.

[Eddie Larson]

You can put him in your pocket.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's gonna go British any day of the week.

[Eddie Larson]

I don't think so.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think any day now he's going,

[Eddie Larson]

this is why they got married. It's gonna be Very hard for. He's only 30. He's only 30, okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, he's gonna be British very, very soon, and then she's gonna full decade

[Eddie Larson]

before he turns British.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Guess what she gets now.

[Eddie Larson]

Half.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Half Spider Man. She gets half Spider Man?

[Eddie Larson]

Well, he gets half a dude.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, she does. He gets jack shit. He gets nothing. What are you talking about? She's gonna strip him of his life. She's gonna take half of his stuff, and then he's gonna end up dating like, Casey Anthony.

[Eddie Larson]

See, I think. I think Zendaya is too classy to do any of this stuff. I think she's. I think she's a. I think she's on the level.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think that's really good. So you're betting on. You're betting that they'll stay together?

[Eddie Larson]

Well, here's the deal. If you bet on the poly market, if they stay together, then when do you win?

[Henry Zebrowski]

When one of them dies.

[Eddie Larson]

That makes. I'm not going to live that long. These people are going to outlive me by 30, 40 years.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Some bad could happen to him. There's a bubble around her that's following

[Eddie Larson]

the two of these.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They go like, I am still saddened by the loss of Oliver Tree. All it's going to take is one fucking helicopter ride and she's out.

[Eddie Larson]

I don't know. They seem too responsible.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know that they would probably. I imagine that they would throw out other people to save Zendaya. I imagine that Zendaya will be saved at cost.

[Eddie Larson]

The only way I could see this happening is if Tom Holland, like, foregoes his own life to save hers.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like Spider Man.

[Eddie Larson]

I could see him dying like Spider man for her life.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, that's the only way. I mean, that's the only way. She's married.

[Eddie Larson]

He's like one of the only good Brits.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She's only marrying him so that he will die earlier than her.

[Eddie Larson]

You think that? Yeah, I mean, he's definitely going to die earlier than her.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, that's all men.

[Eddie Larson]

She's going to live forever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Zendaya's. She's like, incredible. She's going to live.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. No, she's a redwood. No, she's Chihuahua. In my mind.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She's gonna go 125 years old.

[Eddie Larson]

But she's tall, though, right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, sure.

[Eddie Larson]

I don't know. She just looks tall. He's probably short.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's super tiny.

[Eddie Larson]

He's tiny. That's why she looks tall. Yep, they're both tiny.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They're super small.

[Eddie Larson]

I think they're gonna be happy forever. I hope so.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what? I just want to make money, and I want our people to make money.

[Eddie Larson]

So I put it like I want.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is about the audience, Eddie. This is not about me. It's about the audience and giving them a good tip to go out and do. All guys talk about.

[Eddie Larson]

The audience has an extra ten grand to lay down on Weather's. And I. Tom Holland, sell your stuff.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So sell your thing. I see. But there's other cash in your 401k. Put it on this.

[Eddie Larson]

You know, it's interesting. I'm looking. So I searched. This doesn't exist in the poly market right now. You.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what I'm saying.

[Eddie Larson]

You would have to invent this in order for it to exist. I searched. There are 103 results for Tom Holland Zadia Divorce. And the. The top one that comes out that makes me interested is Margot Robbie divorce by June 30th at 1%.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, there's all.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I could see that.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. You know.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Eddie Larson]

There's all kinds of these in here. But the more interesting thing on the poly market that I saw is

[Henry Zebrowski]

just

[Eddie Larson]

like you could bet on who's going to be the president.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, you can bet. You can bet. No, we have.

[Eddie Larson]

This is insane to me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We're off the rails right now, Eddie. Yeah, we're off the rails into a bunch of new things right now, Eddie. And that's why I was trying to give him more innocent bets.

[Eddie Larson]

You know, Ghana is only a 5% on the poly market against England in the World cup today.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But do you think that it would change if you could wear your Ghana jersey?

[Eddie Larson]

So I bought. I bought a Ghana jersey, and I

[Henry Zebrowski]

don't know if I'm allowed to wear it or not.

[Eddie Larson]

It's one of those drunken. I thought I was being cool and bought. So I don't care about soccer, football, World Cup.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You love Africa.

[Eddie Larson]

I hate FIFA and I love Africa. And I love. I love the music more than anything else we do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And, Jack, that is true of all of the people that you would say. I mean, obviously, Eddie, again, he did the mc, the Parliament Funkadelic, you know, that's the closest he ever got to being a black person. But also, Eddie lives the most African. Like, you listen to an extreme amount of African music.

[Eddie Larson]

It's. It's. It's what? It's my favorite music right now. I can't get enough of it. I'm obsessed with Ebo Taylor.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what I've been obsessed with Vietnamese funk.

[Eddie Larson]

It's really good.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

I got a Cambodian record I'll have to share with you. Yeah, you're gonna love it. You're gonna go crazy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's the ones where they go,

[Eddie Larson]

stop. It's a little funkier than that. But see, so I'm, so I've been obsessed with Ebo Taylor, who died last year. RIP Ebo. He was 90 something. I got to see him. But jazz is dead, which is my favorite, like, Jazz company out here, other than Blue Note. They, they put out this Ghana soccer jersey, but it has Ebo's name on the back. Oh, cool. I think it's very cool. So I bought it and then I put it on. I'm like, I'm gonna get beat up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, you could be South African, but not Ghana's.

[Eddie Larson]

Not South Africa, but. And they don't like them there. They don't like the, they don't, they don't like the Afrikaans in Africa.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, let's send this to side story

[Eddie Larson]

where I spent too much money on this jersey. Am I allowed to wear it? Can I? Or do I have to donate it? Do I have to find someone from Ghana and give him the coolest gift ever?

[Henry Zebrowski]

See, I honestly, I think that he can celebrate it, but I think this is, well, very similar to our lines about whether or not I'm allowed to dress up Wendy and Carmi as a incredible icons of Black history for Black History Month for a photo shoot I got. I feel like it's in the same way where a lot of people felt that actually was quite a beautiful celebration.

[Eddie Larson]

I think it's nice. I think you should do that next year. And I'll, I'll help you. But. All right, so Google AI says anyone, regardless of race or background, can wear a Ghana soccer jersey in public.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's because the AI kind of races.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Yeah. Accept it as casual street wear or a symbol of appreciation for a sport and the country.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I, I, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I also wore the shiki for two years.

[Eddie Larson]

Yes, but that. You look great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Larson]

I wish you could still wear it, but we know you shouldn't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I feel that it's starting to come.

[Eddie Larson]

The soccer jersey is the Tashiki Gateway.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's starting to be. Yes. Because my problem right now is that I'm about a 48 inch chest. I am getting to the point where I'm gonna have to start wearing dashikis again.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Big tits.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, it's good. I think you look good, though. So England. I'm going for Ghana. Wow. This all came full circle because Tom Holland.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Wow. We're really good.

[Eddie Larson]

Circle. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We're really good at podcasting.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Yeah. You uk. I'm going gotta. By the time this comes out, you guys would have crushed them, I'm sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Possibly. But we also. But again, it's a safe bet, so I would say go and make that bet.

[Eddie Larson]

It's not a safe bet. It's only 5%.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We'll make that bet. I mean, on Tom Holland and Zendaya.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's a good bet.

[Eddie Larson]

That's a good bet.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All right, here we go.

[Eddie Larson]

I like the poly market.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know. No, we don't really like the poly market. We just thought it would be funny to use money and cynically to decide whether or not love is enough.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And use that on polymarket. That would be really fun. All right, all right.

[Eddie Larson]

You convinced me. I'm gonna wear the jersey now. I can't wear it. I was gonna say, if it's for

[Henry Zebrowski]

a joke, then I think you're allowed to.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, no, it's not a joke.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I legitimately, if you have a good

[Eddie Larson]

joke to go along with it, you're allowed.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But also. Yeah, but why does it feel weirder for you to wear a Japanese one? Right.

[Eddie Larson]

Well, because I don't give a fuck about them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm just from saying any, but I'm just saying, like, for me, it'd be weirder. I think it's because of my past.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like, if I were to wear a Japanese one, people like, oh, we're. Oh, I know what he's doing.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I don't have, like, a Ghana Larson character in my past,

[Henry Zebrowski]

and that's why we're introducing it now. If we could, I'd love to hear a little bit from Ghana Larson.

[Eddie Larson]

Hi. How you doing? I'm just a regular guy. I moved here.

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Eddie Larson]

From your grave. All right. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So I made you watch this documentary on Netflix.

[Eddie Larson]

Man, I was not. I did not want to watch it. And boy, oh boy, was I eating it up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was.

[Eddie Larson]

It is upsetting.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Natalie doesn't like it when I'm watching one of these and I'm like, ooh, this is good. She's just like, everyone's dead, though. Yeah, I know, but I like it. So we watch on Netflix, we watch this new documentary called Maternal Instinct, which is based off a story that came out in 2022.

[Eddie Larson]

Did y'?

[Henry Zebrowski]

All.

[Eddie Larson]

In 2020? It happened.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's when it happened. But then I believe it got all the coverage in like 2022.

[Eddie Larson]

And did you cover it on side stories? Do you remember?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like, I think at time we thought it was too dark, but now.

[Eddie Larson]

Side stories.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. But now I don't care anymore.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So this is a. This is a story that is. I mean, it's wild because it involves one of my truly, like a topic that I'm fascinated with inside of true crime and weirdo thought, which is malingering and fake. Like pathological lying.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And malingering specifically is people that pretend to be sick in order to get some kind of clout. Like, weird, weird.

[Eddie Larson]

I never understood it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's very interesting because sometimes they'll do it for nothing at all. Like, there's a story of an Australian woman that faked having cancer. And it got so huge like that. Like the story, there's another story about this woman who faked that her husband died in 9 11. And then she worked her way into this 911 victims group, this like, victims advocacy group, and then legitimately then worked her way through all these weird political machinations within it and like ousted the former leader and did all this meanwhile, like, everything was a lie.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And there's something about pathological liars I find fascinating.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Terrifying. Hard.

[Eddie Larson]

It is. It's. It's just. I don't. It's so. To me, to lie that much is just so stressful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Harder. And then we've also known. I mean, you know, I don't think I'm talking too out of school here. I've known several pathological liars.

[Eddie Larson]

They exist in everyone's life.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I also, I've known reformed pathological liars which I'm all about. And I think they're really interesting, too. That's just as interesting to me, hearing them talk about why they did what they did, you know, and largely it's to. To get along with the Joneses.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sometimes it's just because you want attention. And largely it is. It's literally like a lot of them have to get on medication, talk therapy, in order to really talk about why they do what they do, which largely comes from a sense of I'm not enough.

[Eddie Larson]

I feel like you're allowed to lie until you're 18.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think that this is. There's. We all have those. Right. Everybody had the.

[Eddie Larson]

When I was young, I lied.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Everybody did.

[Eddie Larson]

Every.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Every child lies and like, you know, like childlike lies. Like the thing where they do that. You know, when you come in, the one kid's lying about going to Europe for the summer or.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Or that their dad invented Velcro.

[Eddie Larson]

I met a cute girl on a cruise once.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Of course. Didn't.

[Eddie Larson]

That I. Which was a girl that I saw that I thought was pretty.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then you. You're a kid. You get over it.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But some people don't get over it.

[Eddie Larson]

It.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I do think that it's. Sometimes what happens is that your pathological lying will then not even be your issue. It's actually something else. Because you'll do extreme things to try to make your lie be real. Yeah. And that, to me is like, even more interesting than just lying. Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

Because trying to make it so much harder.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes, it's just trying to make it real. But. So this story is about Taylor Parker

[Eddie Larson]

and the new documentary, Maternal Instinct. It is a news story, so the new. It is out there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But.

[Eddie Larson]

But if you want to see the doc, some spoilers ahead there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, there's spoilers, but the story has been out there. But. And there's. There's more to it. So.

[Eddie Larson]

It's a great doc.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is. Taylor Parker is 26. Was 27. Two years old. This is in 2020, when she was 27. And then she seemed to have like. She's kind of living two lives. One in which he was a single mom that had two kids that she just sort of like, didn't pay attention to.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. They're just. It kind of existed. No one ever saw them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And this. This lady.

[Eddie Larson]

One came around and the other one wouldn't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And Taylor seems to be the type of person that would friend group pretty easily. And then she met this other new guy and. And you kind of thought like, oh, you Know, like whatever. And then the story is like, oh, she gets pregnant with this guy and then, oh, she's gonna be saved by him. But that's not the story.

[Eddie Larson]

The most naive man in history.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, I would say you say naive. I say checked the out. Yeah, I think is both, I guess. I think that guy was head. That guy was just like, I don't even know what. What's happening here. So this isn't this out of New Boston, Texas. This is the middle of nowhere. Taylor Parker. The crime she would go on to commit is that she would fake being pregnant up until 10 months in her pregnancy. And then she would, in a moment of pure manic delusion, stab and mutilate her quote, unquote best friend who was pregnant with the baby. Cut the baby out of her using 94 different varied cuts after watching C section videos on YouTube and then tried to fake the baby as her own. And the baby. And her best friend Reagan died in the process. She's now in jail and she has got the fucking death penalty in Texas. The old. The sixth woman to ever receive the death penalty sentence and she is still there. We know they are trying to figure out something about her mental state, blah, blah, blah. But this, the story is like. That's all I heard originally was just that this woman had faked being pregnant and she cut the baby out of somebody else. And then I saw the body cam footage of her, that of which you can see in the documentary, but it was all over the Internet where she sees she's all shaky and crying and covered in blood. And she's close to the.

[Eddie Larson]

She's really not covered in that much blood.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, she must have changed and washed herself. Did she? Did we know that she did.

[Eddie Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And so she was. She had blood on her. She was saying, oh my God, I gave birth in my car. And this, the cop is like, oh my God. They get the baby in and the second they're all at the hospital, everybody knows that there's something wrong.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, but isn't she like wearing jeans?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Larson]

She's just like the most basic level you don't give. You don't put your jeans back on after you give birth on the side of the road.

[Henry Zebrowski]

God knows what this. I mean, obviously she wasn't in the right mind, Eddie. And so they went and they talk about. They talk with her about this and she's just all like, what do you mean I didn't have a baby? And that doctor, that doctor.

[Eddie Larson]

Doctor is my favorite character in the whole thing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

When he Comes and he's like, ain't no way baby came out of that.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah,

[Henry Zebrowski]

your first thing. You first. No, no baby. Let me go check and see if baby coming in. Let me look.

[Eddie Larson]

Well, because

[Henry Zebrowski]

a no baby in there. Like, it's just like a mechanic.

[Eddie Larson]

It is one of those things where it's like, you know, she let it go all the. The lie go all the way to having her checked. Like she let this lie go all. I mean, she had to have known that when the doctor like looks under that dress, they're going to be like,

[Henry Zebrowski]

okay, so let's take it all the way back.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So it starts with Taylor Parker. It starts in high school. It starts with her. She's a little bit of a chubby girl, self conscious. Her friend said that the thing that she would do though, very casually is that she would say, give me a naked picture of you from your chin down. I'm talking to a guy. Or like, what the you talking about, Taylor? You just being like, I'm going to go, I want them to like me now. I want to show them on these pictures.

[Eddie Larson]

It's.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They're like, so what's going to happen when he sees you? She had no answer. Right. And so she started catfishing guys and then the guy show up and then it blow up. And that was like one thing. So that's kind of the next thing it started. Then it starts with. She's starting to have health issues. Right.

[Eddie Larson]

So she did get the nudes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Sometimes crazy girls are weird.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They're young.

[Eddie Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They have no idea. Right.

[Eddie Larson]

So she is.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Taylor now is. She gets a new group of friends and she is starting to do the chronic illness, like dive, right. She's starting to say, oh, I'm getting this. Yeah. Oh, I'm feeling faint. Everything kind of becomes about her health, right. Like comes and kind of about all these kind of things. And eventually she comes and tells her friend, I have Ms. They actually diagnosed me with Ms. And they're like, oh my God. Everybody gets together and she's like, oh, you know, a couple months after that, that it's like, actually also I just got diagnosed with cancer. And they're like, oh my God. And they go and they, they get. She gets the baby come out. And she made up all these things about how she had. Because she ended up getting pregnant at 17 and getting pregnant with another baby. And after she had that baby and do all this. This health stuff started happening. She basically said, oh, we're having issues with your. Like the baby came out and at first she was like, oh, you know, I got my tubes tied. That's what she wanted. She came up with this, like, thing about how at 21 years old, she went to the doctors and said, tie my tubes. I'm not having any more babies. And they're all like, why? Why are you doing this? Is so young. And she's just like, I don't care. No more babies. And so they. They went and they tied her tubes up and then gave her a hysterectomy. Well, because she end up having an egg tech. What do they call an ectotropic. What's that? That term of a pregnant pregnancy that gets caught.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

In a tube after she'd gotten her tubes tied.

[Eddie Larson]

That's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She got her. She got pregnant with it and showed she needed to have a hysterectomy. So she got the hysterectomy pulled out of her. Now she's just like this kind of like, whatever, normal person, but she's also

[Eddie Larson]

been call it a hysterectomy, by the way.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank you. You're right.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. You know, right. That's what I. You know, what are we even doing here?

[Henry Zebrowski]

A woman's directomy.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Thank you. You're right. You're right. I'm sorry.

[Eddie Larson]

Even though it's a man doing was. They interviewed him. That's my.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's his director.

[Eddie Larson]

It's my direct. That's mine. I did that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I popped that out. I popped the whole thing out. I took out the transmission. I took out the whole thing. I dropped in a new load.

[Eddie Larson]

I broug the taxidermist. I put it on the wall.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I did what I need to do. That's a man, dude.

[Eddie Larson]

It's right next to my deer heads. There's my dear uterus.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So this is also where she started talking about how, like, she was. Had a fallout with her mom. And her mom was this heir to a fortune that would go from syrup to oil to. She said salt. Salt. She said that her parents were the Morton salt cult family. All this kind of.

[Eddie Larson]

Your name should be Morton if you're going to tell that lie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. So she burns through a series of friends with all of these crazy lies. So she moves away, and not too

[Eddie Larson]

far, but far enough.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like three hours.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So she moves away from her little town and she goes to her first rodeo. And so at the time, what she did was that because she had. Because she had gained all. She had all this weight. And then what happened? She had lost all the weight. Then she kind of went Crazy. And then she kind of got weird and all that kind of. Right?

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

At this point now she's doing the I want a man to settle down with.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I want a country man. I want a big, strong country man.

[Eddie Larson]

She's a new Boston 8. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean for the territory. For, you know, like, you know, I think so. I think she's ugly inside and out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But see, normally I can separate the two.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because I'm wise like that. So normally, like, even those evil woman, I can figure out if she's hot.

[Eddie Larson]

I'm not attracted to her. But I'm saying for the territory. For a. A man who collects hogs for a living, I think she's beautiful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's his job. That's his job. And not only does he collect hogs as a job, apparently also does it in his personal life. So this guy was the name of Wade Griffin.

[Eddie Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So she saw this guy, this, this amateur rodeo. And he's a hog trapper, big boy. And I would also say a little bit not, not. He's not dumb, but he's very country and doesn't ask a heck of a lot of questions. Right? Yeah. So she insinuates herself into Wade's life. She starts pretending to be somebody else. So he's like so surprised that she wants to slop the hogs and she wants to jerk off the tractor and she wants to slam the chickens. I don't know what they do. They mil. They do some something, right.

[Eddie Larson]

He's like a woman kind of likes me. I'm in.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But and also in his idea too, because he was just like. Cuz some women, some men in the country world, they like, tell me if I'm right or wrong side stories. Lpotl gmail.com. but I think I'm correct. I think sometimes a big country man almost wishes he could be with a man. Because she wishes that. Because he was like, here's the first time I met a lady couldn't care about the country. She liked the mud, she liked the dog. She like lifting the trucks. And it's like, yeah, no, you like. You want a man, dude. You want to be married to a fucking man.

[Eddie Larson]

It's a country girl, a girl raised on a farm.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Someone who could change a tire. But he's specifically saying, you can't find that in the way that you find it because she's lying to him, Eddie. She's doing the thing where she's pretending to be super country to get this man right.

[Eddie Larson]

I feel like if you could find her anywhere, she's in New Boston.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, the problem is I think that Wade wanted her to not. Not look like him.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I think that's the issue is that when you get a lady that wants to slope, wants to slap him up, wants to live. Oh, I like her. She could lift a horse on her back.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You mean like, that's the kind of lady.

[Eddie Larson]

Julie's gorgeous and she runs my backyard.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Diamond in the rough, founder in California.

[Eddie Larson]

I found her in New York.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But then you brought her here.

[Eddie Larson]

You trafficked her hair. Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They wouldn't be able to do it. So they, they're geared together. Right? They, you know, whatever. So. So this woman then tells him, guess what, baby, I'm about to inherit $8 million. This is what. They're together. They've been together for two months. And he's like, no. And she's just like, not only that, we're go, I'm making every one of your dreams come true. She buys him a $100,000 car, she buys him the house, she buys his

[Eddie Larson]

mama car, a hog ranch in Oklahoma, everything.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And the ranch too, was like, they set it all up and they went and they.

[Eddie Larson]

Toward it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was this four million dollar property. And she's saying, oh, we're gonna. I'm gon cash. And the. She's doing it to make the family jealous. The family's all like, damn. When they show that video and they're like, wow, I guess you guys gonna be living a whole new life.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, they had like a whole presentation over Christmas. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And she was just like, yes, we are. We absolutely are. And then the thing is, is that the guys that went to go look at the real estate people, they started looking into go like, okay, $4 million cash. Absolutely, we'll set that up for you. All right now.

[Eddie Larson]

Exactly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And so they.

[Eddie Larson]

Because they also come from a part country where like your millionaires look like they do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what they were. They were like, we specifically deal with the clientele that you would not make. But if you were to judge your book by your cover, you wouldn't think that they could own multiple million dollar properties. Yeah, it's like, no, they do, because

[Eddie Larson]

they're all wearing jeans and they're dirty and they're.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah, they're in. They have agricultural money. They got that agromarian money.

[Eddie Larson]

Real money.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, Real money.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And so they go. And so go. They go to check it in and they're like, no one's ever heard of her. And then her, the representative of the oil trust fund. Which is really funny because they work for shell company and her name was Shelly.

[Eddie Larson]

Yes. No, it's definitely. It lacks any sort of creativity.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like her. Wasn't her lawyer called like Bill Longington? Yeah. Long 10 or fake lawyer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is hilarious. It's my improv. Right. It's so funny. And so while all this is like, the money's now starting to happen, they're starting to default on all things they're supposed to pay for.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Now that it's happening, they repossess the mother's car. They start being like, oh, you can't. You don't have the money for this. You don't have the money.

[Eddie Larson]

She only had it for a couple months because she showed up with a brand new like Camry or some. A sedan.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's all on credit. Every single thing was on credit. Yeah, she just got. Whatever. And she financed it. She just put money down. She financed it.

[Eddie Larson]

And so, so seemed like she was good at paperwork.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's. It's. Or. Yeah. Or lying to somebody who's just looking to get the down payment. And then they'll figure it out after the.

[Eddie Larson]

I mean, this is how the housing market collapsed.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what happened. So when this started, when this house of Cardstone fallen, she tells Wade, actually, I'm pregnant. Now, they've been together three months. She, for some reason has decided that she needs to keep Wade. And the only way she's going to do this is by telling her. Telling him she's pregnant. And they know for a fact anybody that had noticed her knew that she could not be pregnant.

[Eddie Larson]

Well, from her past.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. So she had reinvented herself in this new world. And the thing about Wade is that he's just not curious.

[Eddie Larson]

He just wants to take. He wants to go to work and he wants to work his ass off and he wants to come home, he wants to go to sleep.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But in the way he kind of put his. Like. Yeah, she kind of said she was pregnant or whatever. And we went to look at all, you know, I was like, well, I guess it's going to be done how it's going to be done, you know, like, he's like, it takes a dude

[Eddie Larson]

like Wade to fall for this type of.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Absolutely.

[Eddie Larson]

Because it's like, you know, you're not going to doctor's appointments. You're not going to all that well.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He kept me, like, I tried to go, but then she'd say, I, you know, like I was busy or there was something Going on, and I just didn't go. And he never went to any one of the ultrasounds. He never went to any one of the doctor's appointments. Because there weren't any.

[Eddie Larson]

Because there weren't any.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then he.

[Eddie Larson]

But also, to me, this is where he kind of sucks.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Larson]

Because, like, if I'm having a baby, which I'm not. If I'm having a baby, I'm going to these goddamn appointments. I'm worried about the baby.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's fully checked out, and he doesn't want to be there. He doesn't want to be there. He stops liking her almost immediately. He was not into it. And she kept him with the baby. She loved, bombed him. Then she kept him with a baby. And his entire family from the get is like, she's not pregnant.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And they didn't know she couldn't be pregnant, but they're all like, she's not pregnant. She's lying to you.

[Eddie Larson]

She's not showing for, like, five months, six months.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So she starts pretending.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. She buys the bump.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She buys that fake baby bump. She buys something that makes it look like it's kicking. Yeah. Yeah. She buys something that looks, like, devious. Right. And then it's. The months are going. They plan that gender reveal, which made me want to blow my brains out.

[Eddie Larson]

Or they brought out a cow instead of a bull.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just. I'm so sick. All the gender reveal stuff.

[Eddie Larson]

It's just.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm so sight. So sick of all these. Everybody's just filling everybody filled with karma. I'm so sick. Everybody swollen with karma. And so there you go.

[Eddie Larson]

I hate gender reveals. They're stupid. I don't think I'll ever go to one.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't. Well, we're past that. I think.

[Eddie Larson]

I don't think there's any reason to go. Go to a gender reveal because I honestly, I don't care what gender your child is.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[Eddie Larson]

Have the. Have the baby. I want it to be healthy. I think we should have a healthy reveal. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Would that be nice?

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. It's got one head. Hey. How about that?

[Henry Zebrowski]

So this is this. So this whole story is crazy. So in the meantime, like, Taylor is, like, faking, like, because she has no money, she's faking doing all these various things for. For work. So one thing she did, which is the. One of the big pavilions of grifters, which we've talked about on this show forever, the photographer. She created a fake photography thing where she's like, oh, I'm a professional photographer, and you have to understand, all you really need to be a professional photographer is a website and a camera. Like, and then someone to pay you. And then magically you become a professional photographer.

[Eddie Larson]

Exactly. Someone has to believe you're good at your job.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. So her best friend, how she met her, was that she had hired her to be her wedding photographer.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And so she was the. And she took a bunch of super mediocre pictures of her wedding.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And the lady loved them. And they just. The two of them got together.

[Eddie Larson]

I mean, also this woman, Reagan seems like the kindest, most.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just the most open hearted, nice woman.

[Eddie Larson]

Like, she died from kindness.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. She was just such a truly sweet woman. And this woman just destroyed or obviously destroyed her life. And so By October of 2020, everybody had already assumed the fake miscarriage story was going to happen.

[Eddie Larson]

This is all during the height. The beginning of COVID too.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It can only have happened during COVID

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, that's doctors appointments. You can only, like, you can't go in because of COVID She used it

[Henry Zebrowski]

as a smokescreen for the whole fucking thing. And so they. They go. And so two weeks past her dude due date. It's now three weeks past her due date. A full 10 months.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Of the baby cooking. Right. They don't even go to get the baby. Like, that's what I just don't even understand. I was like how in the living. We're not at the. Not at the hospital within that first week to get the baby taken out or. Or do anything.

[Eddie Larson]

There's only one person in my lifetime that I've known that's gone more than nine months.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like, you just want it out of you or you want to. Yeah. You want to get it out.

[Eddie Larson]

Induce like whatever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So many things.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Right. And so they waited until finally the very last minute. And the thing was is that her friend. Which is like she'd done this before every time her friend had got pregnant. And when she. When Reagan had gotten pregnant, she was obsessed with it. Right. All over her.

[Eddie Larson]

Like, all over.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Which is how her first group kind of fell apart, was that she kind of glommed onto a person's baby shower and baby experience.

[Eddie Larson]

She's obsessed with it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She's obsessed with. Even though she has two kids she's barely raising.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That they're off somewhere. They're literally just gone.

[Eddie Larson]

That dude certainly had nothing to do with the documentary.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no. He wants to never hear her name ever again.

[Eddie Larson]

Because, I mean, talk about someone who dodged a bullet.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yes. And I guess it's also too. It Is just the constant way just a. How's I supposed to know?

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know. And so eventually she would, in this moment of desperation, decide to kill her best friend, steal the baby and pop it out of her. I just don't understand when the lies get to be that big. I know it's a psychological problem. It's like a mental illness.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I just don't understand. Like, there were so many off ramps.

[Eddie Larson]

I mean, to get to murder, like, you have to kill someone I love.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Larson]

For me to get to murder. And then probably won't even then. You know, like, it's like, I'll still go to the police.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Larson]

You know, like, it's like, it's like. So to get to murder, you're just evil.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And just the fact that they all did not straight up, no one wanted to dig deep enough into this issue.

[Eddie Larson]

Well, that's because his friend, the people who did, their friends, when they approached Wade with, he cut him out of his life.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And just.

[Eddie Larson]

He's like, this my wife. This is my child. You know, you're talking this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, I would love to put it out there.

[Eddie Larson]

That was my favorite guy, his friend that was always in the camouflage. I really like that guy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I felt so bad for him. That guy had no business being mixed

[Eddie Larson]

up in all this because he was just like. Cuz his wife knew something was fishy. All night she's going. And he's just like, will you stop? Will you please just stop? We gotta go to sleep. But she was right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, because every time I loved his attitude because it was like, listen, I don't want to get into another conspiracy theory, all right? That kind of makes sense. Yeah. I don't.

[Eddie Larson]

All right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want to stop all this. We're fighting this.

[Eddie Larson]

What? What?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wait a second.

[Eddie Larson]

What?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like every single time. And it's like he's at least being like, oh, no. Because he keeps trying to get to his buddy. And Wade is just like, you know, they're just the men. Examine your lives. Yeah, that is the. That's the key here, guys. Examine your life. Don't let just things just happen to you.

[Eddie Larson]

Also, it's just like Wade, you know, Wade definitely sucks. Or he's stupid.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think more so than anything, he's stupid.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, yeah. It's. I think it's one of the other. But like to throw your friends away for a person you don't even like.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, you barely even know. Well, because it's this idea that. Because the problem getting is probably this. Is this idea that. Well, now she's the mother of my child. Like, no, dude, she just caught some gunk, bro.

[Eddie Larson]

Also just.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She just did it.

[Eddie Larson]

I think it's insecure big boy disease, too.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is.

[Eddie Larson]

You think you're never gonna find another person because you're a big boy and

[Henry Zebrowski]

that she's kind of cute. And so he thought. And because she does all the dumb hog stuff. Yeah, because she's kind of cute and she does all the hog stuff and she doesn't also have a mustache. Yeah, that's why he wants to stay.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. But he doesn't understand. It's not enough, y'. All.

[Eddie Larson]

It really isn't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's not enough, y' all to stay. Unless, of course, they're going to teach you how to run a cult. And that's the problem is, like, they never do unless you get involved with Peter Teal.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Let's do this. Let's get into this next story.

[Eddie Larson]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

This next story is going to reverberate for the next several years and we're going to have no real idea what's happening inside of this story probably ever.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, but we finally got some proof that the fucking like the Illuminati exists. In a weird way, that's what this is. Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The worst part about that. This is I think it actually proves something that we've been talking about a long time. Which is the capital I Illuminati never existed. But our current group of loser billionaires are trying to create one.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And it's not working.

[Eddie Larson]

So this is past Bohemian Grove. This is crazier.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, who knows? Who knows? So it is just come out. It came out on Friday, huge expose on Peter Thiel through Wired magazine.

[Eddie Larson]

Good job Wired.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Good work. About this secret group he put together called Dialogue and the. It is. It's like. So first of all, Dialogue has had its website and its membership secret ever since it was made. I think it was in 2006. Yeah, 2006. And we have had no idea what's in there or what they do. Right.

[Eddie Larson]

A 20 year old tech oligarch crew.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. So Peter Thiel, every year and I guess last year, year for the very first time they have. They're now constructing a permanent campus in

[Eddie Larson]

D.C. around D.C. yes. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So this is going to happen. As we see, the construction work in D.C. is going really well.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So I think it's going to think that's going to be a banger. You know. And so Peter Thiel he is. He created this. This idea of like all right. It's. All of these intellectuals are going to get together and there's a members and guest list. You're going to be. And then we're going to do this whole thing. And it was just revealed by a bunch of hackers that pull out. They got. Somehow there was a loophole in their security because all these guys are so. They. They barely tell what the hell is

[Eddie Larson]

happening up their own ass and think they're so brilliant. They don't see people. They don't think they can get attacked like this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They don't think that they can. Which just also shows they're open.

[Eddie Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

To attack. Of course they're open to it.

[Eddie Larson]

So more person who hacked the no Fly List.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. More and more of this. So because remember Peter Thiel straight up says he doesn't believe that freedom and democracy are compatible. And he also ran Argentina. So. Yeah. Have something to do with this news. We now know that some of the guys that went to this thing were please people like treasurer, Secretary Scott Bessant, Sarah Bond, Ted Cruz. J. Joseph Gordon Levitt. The actor.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Brian Johnson, the vampire man that is stealing blood from his son.

[Eddie Larson]

Cory Booker.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Cory Booker is a really fun one. And then also it's. It is this thing. So he's bringing people together.

[Eddie Larson]

Klein.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep.

[Eddie Larson]

Ezra Klein. Yeah. Like that's crazy to me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is a. It is across the board and sold. It is important to remember guys that they're all on one team. This is still the fucking lesson is that it's not about left or right. It is about a certain amount of money in your bank account gets you access to certain things and it changes your brain. And you start to think of the rest of us as fucking expendable. Yeah. And so that is what is happening. So this guy in the conference they're doing all this. These like funny cute things. So first is the one is just the topic of. They all get together. Like one of the topics was just World War Three.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And the other one was the pros and cons of AI.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Right. Which just seemed like stuff that we. Whatever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what leaders do. But then there's one called how to start a Cult. How to run a cult.

[Eddie Larson]

Yep.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There was another one called the. The one that.

[Eddie Larson]

That was also. I think you're. You're. You're. You're got. Now you're. You're going past how to build a Cult. It was moderated by the founder. Founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com.

[Henry Zebrowski]

yes. And then there's another one that was called It's Fun to be in charge.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Right. Which is. God knows what that means.

[Eddie Larson]

Money does buy happiness.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what. It's another one that. Another class that was called Money does Buy Happiness.

[Eddie Larson]

And then how's your sex life? Of course. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because the big thing here is one of the big interesting factors of dialogue is that not only is it a think tank, not only is it a summer vacation, it's also a shed. Because what they do is matchmake there.

[Eddie Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Which to me was one of the first things that rang a giant bell. Right. It was like I just saw this bell as soon as I saw the. The. The option to.

[Eddie Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The option.

[Eddie Larson]

Help elite people find elite people is what they say.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They help billionaires because they. They can't close. Okay. Because they literally are reptiles with no human emotions.

[Eddie Larson]

If there were humans, they'd be millionaires.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They'd be normal millionaires with chicks.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Okay.

[Eddie Larson]

Giving back to society.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They'd be just normal guys having fun if they were normal people, but they're not. And so guess where this all brings us to. It's an island adventure. So, yes, it's an. Of course it comes back to Jeffrey Epstein. So there was a email exchange from Jeffrey Epstein where he says, peter Thiel loves your secret society idea. He's trying to get one off the grounds. He hasn't been able to figure it out. It's all connected all the way fucking back. So Peter Thiel, we now know that dialogue emails are all through the Epstein emails. And the reason why we didn't find them up till now was because we didn't know the names of the society yet.

[Eddie Larson]

Also, Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

A word like dialogue means nothing.

[Eddie Larson]

Means nothing until you learn the existence of this secret organization called that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So now he. We have all of these emails. We have no idea whether Jeffrey Epstein was going or not. We know that people were keeping him up to date with what they were talking about.

[Eddie Larson]

He was full on invited.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yes. We just don't know if he went. Which he did. Probably did. And so then they also were. And when he didn't go, they sent him materials from what they were talking about.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So it's all connected back. And again, we don't know know if they actually make policy decisions or what they do, but the fact that they're all getting together and they're all super secret about it to me is. Doesn't bode well.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. And. And it's everybody. It's people who own major corporations, it's senators, it's. It's everybody.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh no. Jason Gordon Levitt was just like. I thought that day. It was an interesting conversation. And then it's like the other guys were all.

[Eddie Larson]

Meanwhile Ted Cruz is there. I don't know how you're going to have an interesting convers with him because

[Henry Zebrowski]

Ted Cruz's connections to the government and you're just happy he's there.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And you love the fact that he's a flawed sociopath because those are the best people to manipulate.

[Eddie Larson]

Absolutely.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. So that's like the thing is we are. We're still being held under the thumb of these people and they think it's funny. I think that's what's hard is that they think it's so funny and cute.

[Eddie Larson]

What am I supposed to do? Get rid of PayPal.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't got time for this shit. No, PayPal's done. Unfortunately. It's not even the software. But buddy, we, our. I love the idea of boycotts and what we're doing here. Yeah, right. I don't think that's going to move the needle as much as I.

[Eddie Larson]

Using PayPal isn't going to change anything.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think what's going to move my life harder. I think eventually we're all going to have to show up in front of a bunch of data centers. I think that's going to be a thing we're going to have to do at some point. But I think that's the later on conversation for if and when Peter Thiel somehow survives the military police of Argentina, which I still believe that he could end up.

[Eddie Larson]

They're protecting him. The President. Argentina said it's a. It's a haven for billionaires.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But also guess what? Then everyone has the price.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So guess what? I'll take somebody else.

[Eddie Larson]

The price is way cheaper in Argentina. I'm sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But guess what? If he's under Cunningham, somebody will come fucking overpay him to kill him. If it's just about money, baby. There's somebody. So there's always somebody who's willing to pay you a little bit bit more.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Especially if it comes down to hog tie and a billionaire. You know what I mean?

[Eddie Larson]

That's what we need. We need Wade.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We need Wade.

[Eddie Larson]

Wade can redeem himself.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know if Wade has enough attention to detail for this job.

[Eddie Larson]

We just need him tying.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah, but we just get me to the hogs.

[Eddie Larson]

We can practice on Ted Cruz. He's local.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Why does he have so many hugs?

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, the other thing that we forgot is the reason, like, the story went so long going back to. To Parker. I know that we're done talking about that, but I think, like, what made it so interesting to me and the reason she got away with it for so long, and by for so long, I mean like hours, not like days or anything like that, is because she killed Reagan in Oklahoma and then drove to Texas.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Eddie Larson]

So it gave them a little bit longer to connect the news stories just because of the state line.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, she's. She did it. She thought that she was doing it. Savvily. She was doing it correctly. She wasn't.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, she was flawed, man.

[Eddie Larson]

But I. I don't think there's anyone. It's weird. I feel like Peter Teal has taken over Elon for person I hate most.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know. I really don't know.

[Eddie Larson]

You know, maybe I should just hate him. Everyone the same.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I do. That's what I do.

[Eddie Larson]

Don't rank them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[Eddie Larson]

It's like people who rank their friends. What's wrong with. I. Oh, God. You know, like wedding parties. You know, just like. It's like, come on. Look. What?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Guess what you always do every wedding, one friendship is ruined. Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

You put. You put someone in there that shouldn't have been in there, and then next thing you know, every Pict was ruined.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep. Oh, no. Believe me.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Believe me. So we have a. All right, this is another big news event. I'm certain, everybody. This is honestly big ups to robots. We have our very first official kill of a human being by an autonomous robot in the field of battle. And guess who used it. Ukraine.

[Eddie Larson]

Ukraine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Ukraine used it. It's very.

[Eddie Larson]

Robot.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Very fascinating. It is the very first time that they have used a machine in which they said that it fly out, it goes into Terminator mode, quote, unquote, and then.

[Eddie Larson]

Exactly the mode that called it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep. And it kills everybody. That's what they said, is that they sent it out there. And don't worry, if there's somebody out there that you want to kill, it will kill. We just. According to the guy from. From Coconovoski, we just launch it and we know everything will be dead. Everything that will be found there in this particular area will be dead.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There is no connection to the drone at all. You cannot see the video or nothing. Everything it sees will be killed.

[Eddie Larson]

We don't even know how many people Are killed?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it says a couple guys.

[Eddie Larson]

It says it killed a couple of Russian soldiers and one truck. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What does it mean? It killed the truck?

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But the, this has the first one.

[Eddie Larson]

The only reason we know is because they sent in a man drone afterwards to make sure to see what happened and then it did its job.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because the thing is, the IDF has suicide drones, but it still takes a human to trigger them. And then there's other. We have military drones.

[Eddie Larson]

A moral code. They have such a moral code.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The moral code requires them to see a child and explode it. Like that's the problem is that when it's the moral code to kill the child, then technically they're correct. Yeah. And so, but we have suicide drones that we use and we, we, we do stuff like that. We, we tr. But this is the very first time just a robot's done it. I just want to say congrats to the Jackie Robinson of, of, of AI robots out on the battlefield. Cuz, you know, it's really, really hard out there for robots, especially volunteer army. And these guys, they really are. That's, that's fighting for freedom.

[Eddie Larson]

Now we have used Claude to bomb Iran and they believe that it was Claude who actually chose to blow up that school very, very early on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it sounds like a really useful way to sort of blame someone. Somebody else. Yeah, no, it's all fake.

[Eddie Larson]

Also, just by the way, you still used Claude. And if Claude killed the school for children, you did it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You did it. Listen, you did it. Humans are still telling them what to do. Yes, it autonomously killed a bunch of people, but it was just told to kill a bunch of people that look like this.

[Eddie Larson]

Kill people?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. So it's not just doing it. It's not like it. If it, this is how it's AI guys, is if it was built to make waffles and to start order to kill people, and if it's not, if it's built to make waffles and it's making waffles, guess what it is? It's washing. It's a waffle machine. Even if you call it an AI waffle machine, it's just a waffle machine. Like this concept of AI that's being thrown around is a buzzword that means absolutely nothing. When they say AI is in your fridge, it means nothing. When AI is in your tv, it means nothing. It's a computer program. It's software. That's all it is. It's a way to sell it where

[Eddie Larson]

that's not made by a human.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. Yes. It is. The software is made by a human and then it goes in.

[Eddie Larson]

I was at this great Jewish Chinese wedding this weekend. You got to try it sometime.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know. You sound great. On what? The food.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh God.

[Eddie Larson]

It was wonderful. But the thing is, I was. It was in Seattle and there was a bunch of code writers there at the wedding. There's a bunch of tech people there. And I was like, they're literally really talking about how they miss writing code that they don't. They're not allowed to write code anymore. That all code is written by AI.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Well, we're going to have see is. I never thought of code that way as a writer.

[Eddie Larson]

I never thought of code as something you write.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, it's a code and it's an art. It is way more of an art than it is anything else. And what we're seeing, Eddie, is the fact that we are racing towards a giant brick wall.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

In which all of these companies that are going to be held up by these fake AI programs because they're. We're just using the words AI. We're just using the term.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just a computer program. It's not thinking, it's just doing stuff. It's not actually thinking. And what we're going to see is that once we're really dependent on quote unquote AI coders, we're going to see these websites falling apart.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But everything's going to fall apart.

[Eddie Larson]

They are kind of thinking. Bots are thinking in a way.

[Henry Zebrowski]

See, again, we are. This is the issue is we have to think about what the term thinking means.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Is it making is its own independent choices from data it's getting independently and then deciding to do something unique. That's thinking.

[Eddie Larson]

Well, what's the difference between Google AI and then going than this Ukrainian fucking drone killing people that it just chooses?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, Google AI is really just kind of shortening news articles and it's always wrong. And then the same thing with this technology is that you don't think that this AI technology is not going to kill the wrong people.

[Eddie Larson]

Of course it's going to kill the wrong. So we do kill the wrong people in war every day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know. We're just moving blame to more. An even more inefficient source.

[Eddie Larson]

Obama killed hundreds of us civilians and

[Henry Zebrowski]

he did a by hand, like a real man, like a real fudgeing man. I'm just saying thinking is not what they're saying it is. It's just working as a computer program. It is not thinking. So this Idea that they are. That they're little people in here doing stuff and that their little miracle machines is completely a false spill of goods. And it's why we're heading towards a. It's why our economy is wildly bloated right now. And we're going to. We're heading towards whatever the fall is going to be.

[Eddie Larson]

It's going to be up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, you know what's funny is that it could be. Or we could. It does also seem to be that the. There's enough blood in the water right now that more and more people are pulling, pulling out. That as long as a lot of these things don't go to ipo, we'll be fine. Yeah. Truly, our economy will be fine as long as they don't take over the entire thing. And because, thankfully, it seems that they're failing with record speed. So the more they fail and the faster they fail, the more we'll get past this little period. And then eventually AI will do what it needs to do, which is just supposed to do. It's supposed to help you make your maps more efficient.

[Eddie Larson]

It's so crazy that AI is getting all these second chances that, like, if a human made these same mistakes would just be fired immediately.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's because they already fired all the people. Yeah, it's because they fired all the people and the people are coming back and being like, you want me to fix your little problem? How about you give me 20k more a year? Yeah, that's what I would do.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, absolutely. Definitely. That's what you should do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep.

[Eddie Larson]

We're all. I mean, this is all so scary.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. You know, I. On some level, it is frightening. And then on another level, I believe it's going to play out in a. In a medium way. Like, it's going to play out in a middle way.

[Eddie Larson]

I think it's going to play out. And a lot of people are going to fucking die. They're already dying.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, People are dying. A lot more people are going to die and a bunch more people are going to die.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I do think that in the end, I won't work.

[Eddie Larson]

Of course it won't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

Because it can't think.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because it doesn't think.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because we don't even know how we think. So how the fuck are we going to make a facsimile of how we think if we don't know how the fuck we think? Because our thinker is the one doing the thinking. And when we look at the thinker, we have a hard time figuring out what the thinker's doing. Because we are inside the thinker.

[Eddie Larson]

We obviously don't know how people think. Because who would ever thought that Taylor Parker would have done what she did?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Me, I can tell by the hair.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Or the eyebrow combination. I could tell. Absolutely. All right, we got another. We got more fun story.

[Eddie Larson]

There's one. One more story.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, this is one of those where I just like covering this type of stuff because we never do. And it's just like, I don't know what this is. And I want somebody to send me more about. I'm fascinated with guys like this. Have you seen there's other guys that for religious devotionals, do specific physical things and then they, like, change. Like, I remember there was a one guy, Remember the guy that got like, he stuck his hand in the air for like 15 years.

[Eddie Larson]

Okay, yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So this is a guy stood in same place for 12 years as a vow to the God Shiva.

[Eddie Larson]

Right. Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But the only reason why I even want to talk about. Talk about it was just like, man, his feet.

[Eddie Larson]

Wow. Yeah, they look bad.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just look at him. Like, it's not even. It's like his feet have turned into two giant blood filled, like pedestals.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, no, he. I mean, those feet are gonna fall off.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, yeah, that's the idea.

[Eddie Larson]

They're black. Yeah, they're gone. Yeah, they're. They're attached to his legs still, but they are useless and they're gone.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, it's fine. I just think it's interesting that he keeps doing. Doing it and, you know, he's still got his. He's technically still got his toenails.

[Eddie Larson]

So, like, why is he doing it, though?

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is a devotional. It's called standing penance. It's like, what so he does is. He has been do. It's an extreme austerity measure that he does as a way to achieve spiritual oneness. Slash as a devotional to his God Shiva that he personally has taken to be his own personal, personal God.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, well, you know, Shiva exists. Lots of people pray to see, but dude, look, he's moving. A billion people pray to Shiva, but

[Henry Zebrowski]

dude, no one does this. Yeah, because he's special, dude. He's Timothy Chamberlain. Look at this. Look, he's wearing even where the nick's orange just like him.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, he's hip.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, look at him. Nixon 5. He was there.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like. All right, my.

[Eddie Larson]

I'm. I'm disgusting.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm standing too long. My. My, my feet. I'm trying to do the rhyme. My I'm feet. My feet are black. My tunics orange.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, yes, sir.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, God. Was it Nixon 5.

[Eddie Larson]

Ah, I get it. Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

My feet are black. My skirt is orange.

[Eddie Larson]

My shiva got five arms.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Nixon five.

[Eddie Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They already won.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But here, do you see the one of him stretching?

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. I mean, he has to. He wasn't actually doing it on his own. He was using a board with ropes to lean on. He's great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's got a glam squad.

[Eddie Larson]

Well, he's like.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's how he sleeps.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, but I. I mean, he's not doing it then. Wow. Then he didn't even do it. Cuz he.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This isn't enough for you See, he.

[Eddie Larson]

He didn't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, no, this isn't enough for.

[Eddie Larson]

His cause is so stupid that it's like. It's like, all right, if this is your cause, you're not even doing it. You've wasted your legs for no fucking reason.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But what else is he going to do with them?

[Eddie Larson]

Get a job.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is a job.

[Eddie Larson]

This isn't a job. He paid for this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Actually. Side stories lpotl gmail.com But I'm pretty certain that guys like this do actually get paid. And then they. People donate money to them and they become like venerable. Like, you know, like.

[Eddie Larson]

But how is he even going to use it?

[Henry Zebrowski]

He don't move in India and all these areas, they have like guru culture.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So people go and find the guru and then like a devotional, like, relationship is pretty. I don't think it's common, but I do know that it's way more like we don't have that here. Like they have it there, but they like, they have like a whole thing where it's way more common for them to sort of rally around a sp. A local spiritual leader.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because it's. There's so many people. And they also, I want to say is Hinduism is polytheistic?

[Eddie Larson]

I don't know. But his legs are starting to look like Ganeshes. Tell you that much.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So you're saying you don't like those legs? You're saying he doesn't look like a G thing. He doesn't. He couldn't redo the scene from Basic Instinct. I feel like, can you imagine the smell?

[Eddie Larson]

Oh my God.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That scene from him.

[Eddie Larson]

I mean, his feet are. I mean, they exist, but like, I just. They're so big and black. They're so big and in black. He should not have Shaq's feet.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I know, but it's fun.

[Eddie Larson]

It's fun.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He did it to himself.

[Eddie Larson]

God, it's disgusting, and it makes no sense to me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, he knows him. It's not. It's not necessarily a panthe of many deities.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, it's not bad. As far as religions go, it could be worse.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's got its. I. I actually have no idea as

[Eddie Larson]

far as religions go. Hindu is, like, fine. It's definitely better than Catholicism.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's very. It seems that it's way more like. Like, Hinduism seems like it's way, way more fluid.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, sure. Whatever. I'm a atheist. None of it's real. If this. It's certainly not fluid for this guy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, it's not.

[Eddie Larson]

It is stone. Yeah, it's quite.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Quite solid.

[Eddie Larson]

No, no, no, no. It doesn't matter. Anything that makes you do this, I can't be on board with.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's not being made to do it. He's gun.

[Eddie Larson]

He's supposed to, though.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's doing extreme. He's doing an extreme. This is extreme. Yeah, yeah. Other people just normally just will do it for a little while.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. If you lived in America, he would just be a racist tea party member.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah,

[Eddie Larson]

yeah, probably. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I just say it's just nice to see somebody with some discipline. Everybody's so lazy. God damn. So let's get into some listener letters.

[Eddie Larson]

All right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I actually have a really good one.

[Eddie Larson]

All right. I want to hear of it. So first of all, God, everybody wants me to change my deodorant.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, I told you about that. Yeah, you go to God. Like, first of all, thank you to everybody that messaged about Ed's armpits.

[Eddie Larson]

I had one guy be like, they sell. They. They sell Mitchum at this place in that place to displace it. It's like, I go, they're out. What do you want from me? Call me a liar.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, you should just go and get changed. A native.

[Eddie Larson]

I ordered a bunch of Mitchum online. Thank you, everybody.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, you did?

[Eddie Larson]

I'm fine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, he's bought a crate of it online.

[Eddie Larson]

Good for the year.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Seemed like it would have been an easier. As an easy solution, but I did

[Eddie Larson]

it, and it's done. No must, no fuss.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, wow. Wow. Oh, dude, you know what else we didn't cover, really?

[Eddie Larson]

What?

[Henry Zebrowski]

That the fall. I know. Last week, we covered, like, with Sketchy Andy and all the. The guys that. All the. The daredevil stuff.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We never really. Like. We talked about the lady falling during the bungee cord incident where she didn't have it attached.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, I didn't really? It was still developing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Did you watch the video?

[Eddie Larson]

No, I don't watch that type of shit.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh my. No. They don't see anything. The video is crazy. The video, they lift her up over their heads. So what they do here.

[Eddie Larson]

How did they not know there's three people holding her over her head?

[Henry Zebrowski]

How could you not tell there's not

[Eddie Larson]

a rope attached to her? I could tell just by looking at it for sake.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They're all now under investigation because. Because if you hear the video, it looks like murder, dude. If you hear the video, everyone's like, stop, stop. She's not connected. She's not connected. Like you hear people telling them that she's not connected. You see the rope down on the ground, they're all giggling and laughing like it's funny. And then they literally javelin her off the side of the mountain. They just throw her off. I did not know that.

[Eddie Larson]

Not even that. Now I got the video.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And not only only do they throw her, it's not a bungee cord, dude. It's just a shitty rope.

[Eddie Larson]

Godamn.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Look at that. Dude, they just threw her in the ravine, man. Whoa. Yeah, they just threw her in, dude. So they're all under. They're all under investigation now, obviously. Yeah, I mean, she had a body cam on too.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, she did?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, there's a body cam footage out somewhere.

[Eddie Larson]

But did that survive?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. I know, who knows? But honestly, it'd be okay. Great, great advertisement for that GoPro.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh my God.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, right there. Just done. Wow. Just tossed her right off the side.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, I just thought it was like a little accident. I didn't realize like three people picked her up and then tossed her.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[Eddie Larson]

Why?

[Henry Zebrowski]

People are stupid, man.

[Eddie Larson]

Damn.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it's real bad. Yeah, they tossed it, right? Toss it right off the thing. Just javelin her right under the ground. Never do anything remotely fun. Guys, I. My thing is no helicopters. No bungee cords, no jumping out of planes.

[Eddie Larson]

You can't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All right, first off, more of this.

[Eddie Larson]

Helicopters you can't put on the same level as this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, well, yeah, no, no, you're right, you're right.

[Eddie Larson]

This is like. That's like. This is crazy. This is. First of all, no one should be bungee jumping. And if you are bungee jumping, like,

[Henry Zebrowski]

think about it, think about it.

[Eddie Larson]

I don't know, just. You don't need to do it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Get into weightlifting.

[Eddie Larson]

I. I just don't get it, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Find other thrills.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, thanks.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Stop trusting carnies.

[Eddie Larson]

Get in the evo. Taylor. I've said I hours. I spend And I'm completely enthralled.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Anybody that. I don't care what level of professional establishment you go to.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Anybody that is operating a bungee jumping thing is a carny. Yes, it is. The same person that runs the tilt.

[Eddie Larson]

The world. It is.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You have to know that anytime you

[Eddie Larson]

are doing business with somebody who is not under a roof, you're taking a chance.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're taking your life in your hands. Never trust these people.

[Eddie Larson]

Whether it's a hot dog cart.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, man, that's the thing. I wouldn't even eat street food. Never mind getting thrown off a bridge by some guy. I would love to see you guys go skydiving. Oh, no. I'll kill the pilot, Henry. And I'll kill the pilot. I'd rather die in a plane crash of my own hand than having them force me out. The way that'll happen. I'll kill the pilot with my bare hands before they fight. Force me out of the plane, man.

[Eddie Larson]

The only way I would ever skydive is if I. I don't even know if like I had to in war and even then probably just die.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly. The only way you're going to get me to do it if. If it's a high level movie job.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, that's it. It's so weird. You do anything for that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Anything for that. Anything for is I've done many dangerous things.

[Eddie Larson]

Content. You're down.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I have done it. Many things I'm scared. Scared of.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

On camera.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But that's it.

[Eddie Larson]

And one of those things is just touching a horse.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I hate.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, I hate horses. Horses.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Scaredy out of me. You know that. It scares us. You all know that about me. Y' all know me. All right, so this story, this next one, I take nothing from the story, please. But I loved. I thought this story was really interesting because of the story we covered last week of the guy that killed pedophiles. It was hunting pedophiles.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So this is this guy. I work for a local DA and you're suggested and you were suggesting some alternates to vigilante violence against pedophiles. Cuz remember saying we don't need to kill them. We can glue their mailbox shut. We could slash their tires. You know, like stuff like that. We don't just torture, cut their feet off. Yeah. Well, just like again, move. Break into their home while they're not there, move their furniture around and leave.

[Eddie Larson]

Convince them to prey to shoot Shiva.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. Lots of fun stuff. So that story, it reminded me of a wild case. I Handled involving an Internet vigilante. We'll call Bob. Bob decided to take up a hobby of posing as young boys online debate predators. He would constantly dump chat logs, documents and recordings and the local law enforcement to assist them in community safety. And he, period, periodically, he'd lose his shit in law enforcement when, quote, nothing was being done about it.

[Eddie Larson]

It okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The process is never as fast or as simple as people think. And Bob, who was a psychopath.

[Eddie Larson]

Absolutely, yes. In order to do something, to spend all day. You're gonna be crazy. Pedophiles, you're crazy. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Eventually, Bob targeted a prominent community figure who actively worked with adolescents. Bob used the old pedophile's life against him. He did his research. And we use specific details about the Predator's life to scare him. Like, if you don't turn yourself in, I'm emailing our entire chat history to Janet in accounting. Now this pedophile, he had no record. He was acres out of his mind, right? But this is what amazing is, that this guy that he randomly chose happened to actually be a pedophile. So this guy starts going crazy, right? He starts pleading with Bob, bargaining, offering Bob massive sums of money to keep quiet, promising never to do it again, etc. And right at the height of the Predator's panic, Bob suddenly went radio silent. No warnings, no replies. The pedophile continued to message Bob, his panic and fear about being exposed growing every day in the empty unanswered thread. Two months go by, Bob reappear, Pierce picking right up back where he left off. A wave of relief washes over the Predator. He still might even have a chance. He resumes his pleading and begging and his excuses for a couple more weeks with Bob. Then radio silence again.

[Eddie Larson]

Wow, he's really torturing him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The Predator thought he was dealing with a cold, calculated, methodical mastermind who was letting him sweat. In reality, our quote unquote mastermind, Bob, he was in and out of jail for drugs, menacing, obstruction, disorder, orderly conduct, just overall being a total pain in the ass to law enforcement. So after a few cycles of this, the pedo broke. He was so terrified of Bob's looming silent threats that he actually went to the police station and turned himself in.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, that's cool.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Reading that nine month text chain of communication was one of the most hilarious moments of my career. The Predator legit thought he was being dismantled by a genius technical operation. The judge on intake that we comedically let the defendant know that Bob was just a chaotic force of nature who had no idea his own legal Troubles were driving a pedophile straight into a jail cell. So screw gluing mailboxes. Psychological pressure can really force them to face the legal system and at a minimum ruin any comfort in their day to day lives and force them to maybe refrain from their tendencies.

[Eddie Larson]

It definitely kept children safe around the.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It definitely did. And then I do wonder though, if institutional justice is too slow and vigilante violence is wrong. Is weaponized exposure and psychological pressure of alarm solid alternative or just relying on chaotic unhinged actors like Bob just create a different kind of danger for the community?

[Eddie Larson]

I think eventually a pedophile just kill everybody.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think that going to prison. I do also believe that, well hopefully just kill himself. But I also believe Bob is too non directed for us to say that that's the way to always do this. But I would say it's a great start.

[Eddie Larson]

I think people like Bob, you know, definitely exist and they're usually wrong most of the time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's unfortunate. Most of the time what they're doing and I' tell you as a matter of fact, if you remotely have any sort of public presence in this life, you get constantly accused of insane up 247 by people and you just don't know. So I feel like yeah, he was just real lucky. And that's what I would say is that you got to figure out, you got to know the guy is molesting people first. Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

It's so weird to like pose as a child to try and get into attraction, trap them. Is that illegal?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Not if you're a police officer, but you're.

[Eddie Larson]

If you're Bob.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, the problem is this isn't why

[Eddie Larson]

Bob got in trouble.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is not, it is not illegal. You can do that. A lot of people do, but it does. Does not necessarily lead to a conviction in court. Yeah, that's kind of the problem. The problem is that you're getting a bunch of evidence illegally. You're getting the evidence illegally. So for the court. Yeah. So none of it's going to matter work.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Some courts, some like police stations work with some of these guys. Some do like the vigilante guys. Some of them ha them. Some of them work with them who are pains in the asses. Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

But I think like.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And they also are really, really irresponsible for the most part. I think they're doing good. Yeah, they're fine.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I would say any form of vigilante justice has to be. It all is involve risk and it all is. It's one of those. It all. It's very risky behavior, but that's why I'm still saying just bag of dog on the front step.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Set it on fire.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh. The other thing I feel like is worth mentioning is no one has a nice thing to say about Sketchy Andy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. No.

[Eddie Larson]

There's some people not liked by his community.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, a lot of people were like, he was just trying to bring, you know, aware awareness to BASE jumping. And it's like they're pretty. People are aware. Yeah, they're aware. If they know about BASE jumping, they know about it. I don't think it's one of those that needs to, you know, it's space jumping. I don't think it's like, I know, like a systemic issue.

[Eddie Larson]

Oh, and don't touch miniature horses.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I won't.

[Eddie Larson]

We know you're scared of the regular.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just told them. I won't. We have a long email that says a long thing about not touching miniature horses and. Yeah, I get it.

[Eddie Larson]

All right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want to.

[Eddie Larson]

Just as long as you're going. Not going to touch them, but I want to. What if someone tells you to touch it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The second. Well, it's been a great episode.

[Eddie Larson]

It's been delightful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I've really been enjoying it.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. I'm not worried about the future of society at all.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no. And I love where we're going, where we're headed. I live for our autonomous robots to finally get their. Live their dreams. And I hope that one day someone builds a robot that laughs at my jokes.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. My. You know, what I've actually been working on is something to help with. With all the, you know, you know, my work with foster dogs and how there's too many dogs out there. So I. I'm trying. I'm developing a spay eye program to help autonomously go into the streets and just cut the dog. Yeah. You make them all into little parkers.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's a great idea.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly, it's not a bad idea. It could be worse.

[Eddie Larson]

Please invest in my spayeye program.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just give money directly to Ed Larson.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Venmo at Spay Spay sp. Spay Industries.

[Eddie Larson]

Spay. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, we just send money that Venmo don't and just say yes. They be like, do you want to confirm the numbers?

[Eddie Larson]

Just say yes. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Give the money.

[Eddie Larson]

Of course. Yeah. I'm not giving out my phone number.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no. His number's only four numbers long. Go to patreon.com last podcast 11. You could watch Listen to Us ad free. You can also go and see last stream on the Left Live every Tuesday, 5pm PST go to Instagram @LP on the left for and tik tok social media. Go watch the end of HGX2. We've worked very, very hard on the

[Eddie Larson]

whole second season is so bingeable. It is so incredible. It is honestly my favorite thing I've been a part of creating. Shout out to Eric Lacombe here over it at LPN tv. He's a goddamn genius. Henry, you crushed it. Julie was amazing. Is unbelievable. All of our judges like it was a journey. I'm so happy it's out there. The second season, you don't need to see the first season in hoopa goo watch it. It's a lot of fun. But the second season we really upped our game and it is truly unbelievable. YouTube.compnTV Binge that the last two episodes are a movie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's so good.

[Eddie Larson]

It's an hour and a half.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Go check it out.

[Eddie Larson]

It's crazy what was made here. I was like I I, I'm blown away by everybody you know. Hail ld even even though ld's a

[Henry Zebrowski]

We're gonna get him now.

[Eddie Larson]

Yes. Also on YouTube. Brighter side is now on YouTube. Go check that out YouTube.com@thebrighterside LPN. Go follow us. Subscribe and Wizard. Wizard. I'm not. It's a different show. Nerd of mouth. Nerd of mouth is now on YouTube as well. We're putting all of our out there for everyone to see. Our big old fat face. And then the road. Henry and I were in London this weekend. It sold out. Don't try and come.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hopefully we can get there.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Hopefully we can figure out how to get there because no one wants to drive us.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's super hard.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. To convince someone from Michigan to drive back and forth to Canada for you. Very hard. Yes. But we're doing it. You sold the tickets and we're gonna come and they don't worry about it. London, we're gonna gonna be there. We're gonna try and book some more side story shows throughout the year. Crime wave is still available but also July. I'm hitting the road hard, man. I'm gonna be in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Newark, New Jersey, New York City. Tul with Tolson, Oklahoma City with last podcast on the left. Then the very next night I'm going to be in Plano, Texas. I got shows in LA, shows in Chicago. Go to eddytunes.com for tickets. I'm gonna release more dates soon. Solo dates. Come and see me on the road. I love meeting everyone and having a great time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We honestly, we can't wait. We love doing our shows and we can't wait to be out there.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah, everybody.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All right. Hail Satan.

[Eddie Larson]

Hail Ghana.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hill Ghana for soccer. You can wear it now, I think.

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Now I can, right? Because I've. I'm officially hailing Ghana.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, you can wear it. Ghana now. Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

Stupid ass. UK with their goddamn. Are they winning? Who knows?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Who cares?

[Eddie Larson]

Them. They cares. Ghana all the way. Go to the poly market and vote for Ghana.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Where's North Korea?

[Eddie Larson]

They're not allowed. They don't invite them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Where's my jerk? I want a North Korea jersey.

[Eddie Larson]

North Korea jersey.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Eddie Larson]

Okay. I bet we can make that happen.

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Eddie Larson]

So you're saying with Hilton Honors I

[Henry Zebrowski]

can use points for a free night stay anywhere? Anywhere. What about fancy places like the canopy in Paris?

[Eddie Larson]

Yeah. Hilton Honors, baby. Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad in Tulum?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hilton Honors, baby. What about the five star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives? Are you gonna do this for all 9,000 properties when you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime it matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. Breathe in. Feel the sense of calm that comes from having up to $300 in overdraft protection with Goto Bank. Now. Did you say $300? Yes. Now back to our breathing. So if I overspend my balance, go2bank has my back up to $300. Yes. Can we breathe out now? Less worries, more zen. With over $300 in overdraft protection tap to open an account today. Eligible direct deposits and opt in required for overdraft protection fees. Terms and conditions apply.